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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to That's not Mattal. We are

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your weekly rock and heavy music podcast, and welcome here

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to andition of Hyperplasts, which is our short form news

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show where we let you know every single Friday what's

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been going on. This is another one of those almost

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like it was a couple of weeks ago. I said

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something on the lines of like, man, it was really

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really slow dead news week until the day that we record,

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and then suddenly week like the week was saved with

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some like really interesting pieces of music and such being dropped.

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But we'll get into all of that as well as

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the releases that you want to hear about from this week.

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So let's begin. My name is Parenthish across from me

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Sam diging on. Hello Sam, how are you doing. How's

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your week been?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not too bad.

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Speaker 3: I've been you know, like listening to a lot more

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extreme metal than they usually would and like pairing up

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with Castlevania in quite a nice kind of like synchronized

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simulization there. But yeah, they're all good.

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Speaker 1: Baily going to pop shows right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I went to one of my few pop gigs i'll

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go to this week, which was very nice, very like

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pleasant evening.

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Speaker 1: Who is that? So, like, am I too unk to

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know who that is? I say to the oldest person.

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Speaker 3: Because she saw pop music mist of like classical music

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and jazz and theater. And that's what's quite like out

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my taste exactly. There's that she had a fucking ballet

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interlude in the middle of verse set, Like that's the

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kind of thing we're talking about, like appeals.

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Speaker 2: To my tastes that are not greevy.

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Speaker 3: But I am balancing that out of a nice, greedy

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deaf course show on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, we get that. We get best at both

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Speaker 1: All right, lovely stuff. Let's get into the new music

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as be released this week, and we are gonna kick

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off a nice little gauntlet I think over you know,

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some nice diverse across the spectrum new tracks that have drop.

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Let's kick it off with I guess the track that's

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going to be played in front of the most people,

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Which I think is the most amusing way of phrasing

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this one. It is when you say, like, yeah, it's

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gouge Away, who have announced this week that they have

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signed a new record deal. They're signing with a Run

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for Cover Records, and they have released a new song

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from you know a part of that part of that deal.

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The song is called Figurine. This is, of course, the

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way I've phrased it as such is this this is

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ahead of them opening for the Food Fights and Queens

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of the Stone Age in stadiums later this year, And

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I just thought that was the interesting way to be like, Okay,

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what song is a you know, a nasty, neaedly little

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band like Gouage Away going to put out ahead of

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such an occasion. What's your take on how they've how

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they've met that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this to me just feels like kind of like

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carrying on where they sort of came back on the

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last album. You know, it's got that balance of like

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a really agro kind of like spiky chorus, and you know,

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it's got like the very kind of like pretty moments,

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but again it's got that kind of like needly anxious,

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kind of like agitated thing to it, which is just

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hilarious that this is what they're taking into, like say,

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stadiums of food Fighters. I mean, we will rag on

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Food Fighters likely with the new album. But I mean

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it's a very cool move for them to be like, yeah,

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we're bringing gage Away because there are like Harkaband, but

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they've got you know, they've got bits of indie, they've

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got bits of like alternative rock in there, so it's

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not the most kind of like excuse me, and they

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can be like say, very pretty like they are on

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parts of this track. But when this track gets agro,

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there's a really like nasty, like violent mos refilm parts

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of this song. So they definitely haven't gone to like, yeah,

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we're playing for the normy, so we're gonna take it

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easy on them. I can't wait to sort of hear

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some of the confused reactions in that crowd.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I had that in mind because you know, with you know,

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this track being picked up by news outlets or whatever,

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a lot of them have said, you know, it's ahead

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of them going on this food Fighter star. So I

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was like, oh yeah, I've just you know, been reminded

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of that fact pressed by the song. And it isn't

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like the opening seconds there's just this horrible yelp just

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like this ah. It's like, oh yeah, yeah, that's a

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that's not what you really do in such an environment.

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I do think this song is you know, it's like

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a sub three minute song, which I know a lot

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of the songs are you know, short, but this is

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one that feels like it's not the most if we

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compared to you know, the last album they came a

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couple years age that we reviewed. There are parts of

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that album and some of the album tracks where it

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really does go into like really like spidery hairs coming

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up on the back of your neck kind of stuff,

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which is the side of them that I really like

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and connect with. This is like kind of an upbeat

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song like it has I would say, like a kind

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of big alternative rock riff, Like that's some of the

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vibe on it, but they then mix that sort of

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song with a lot of the vocal delivery, which if

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you take the verses for example, you can imagine these

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verses being in like a super Heaven song or something

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or one of those type bands, right, but instead you've

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got a vocalist on it who is doing, you know,

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not the soft grungey singing, but it's doing this kind

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of a tonal half spoken you know, the unsesettling thing,

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that gallage away kind of factory part of their music.

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that they've then sabotage themselves and not reading friendly part

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Speaker 3: On the last album, they had songs kind of Indian

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influence that's on there, but they just they just kind

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of like can't help themselves and go, now we're just

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gonna shout and yell all over this and make it

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just a bit spikier, which is one of the things

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I that makes me so drawn to gouge Away.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I enjoyed it. It's just it struck

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me as being like, oh, this is like almost so

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close to being a good song to put out in

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advance of like a big support slot for a huge

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year stadium band, but not quite because of like what

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you know, just spreading your personality all over in such

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a way, which you know, I applaud props to them,

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but that's just the amusing side of it for me.

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similar TNM listener out there who was interested in both

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of these things. Drug Church have also come back and

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they have released a new track called Pinch. It's their

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first song since their twenty twenty four album Prude, which

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I must say I didn't really, you know, pay much

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mind to that last drug Church album, but I know

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they are a pretty well liked band. I know they've

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just open for the Deaftones and a lot of people

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were raising about them and saying they're actually doing quite

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well themselves on that such of thing. So the new

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song Pinch, and you're watching the video for the song,

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it is like, oh, yeah, you have just go and

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played some some big venues, haven't you. This is not

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a video of you know, crowdsurfing and you know, playing

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the sort of basement shows you normally do. This is

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in a weird sort of way. I guess you know,

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they're on the the opposite end of it where you know,

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Garage Away currently are, But this is in all a

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similar way, maybe a bit of like, oh yeah, Drug

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this.

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Speaker 3: Still sounds like you'd be well at home in like

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outbreakfast and dingy clubs whatever one is piling on top

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Speaker 2: Because Drug you've got vocus. When when you've got vocus.

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Speaker 3: That rowdy who like is just kind of always shouting

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Speaker 1: Good use of from a lot of shout on the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but he has gone a long shot, but he

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has still got you know, it's rowdy, it's in your

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face Musically, this is this definitely feels like it's kind

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of like on the more kind of upbeat end.

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Speaker 2: Of what Drug Church can do.

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Speaker 3: Where again it it is quite like, well, you know,

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like spans like Military Guide and that sort of thing

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where they've kind of drawn like the brit rock sid

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of things that I think there's a bit more of

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that music on this. But Drug Hurts they just have

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a rough edge to them where they never let this

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get too nice and pleasant, where you know, it's bigger

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than they might sound normally, where it does feel like,

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you know, you could be onto bigger things than just

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you know, the club circuit. But it's still, like I say,

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it's still kind of hits enough and it's got enough

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punch to it that I was like, yeah, this, this

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is this kind of given me that that fix I

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want from what Drug charts specifically offering the kind.

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Speaker 2: Of all rock scene.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, because the riff did give me some

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of those you know, sort of quicksandy you know, melodic,

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bouncy alt rock inflected sort of vibes. But as you're saying,

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you know, both this Gageway song and this drug Churt song.

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a you know, with a mouthpiece at least that is

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more identifiable and not just the you know, the woshy

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worry side of that thing. That is you know, so

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so ten and plenty. So again if you're a fan

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of both of those things, and it's probably a good

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song's drug Church has also comes with an announcement of

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a UK tour which is happening around the Burn It

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Down festival in Torquie where they are playing. They're also

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going to be hitting up Leeds, Manchester, Glasgow, Bristol and London.

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So good stuff if you are a fan of those bands.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to a I would say the most

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interesting album announcement out this week, which comes from Devin

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Townsend who has been long, long talking about this very

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thing that has now seemingly come into fruition. Devin Townsend

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have finally announced his album, which is called The Moth,

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which he has been discussing and teasing, saying he was

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working on for something like a decade, like it's been

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a long long time that he's talking about this album.

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a symphony of cox and vaginas and death, which is

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a very Devin Townsend quote, isn't it. But you know

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you got the vibe that it will be a massive,

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incredibly layered, primarily orchestral, I suppose album, But you know

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it's been in the works alongside many many project. He's

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obviously a guy who has a you know, many many

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albu on the go at once. He's released several albums

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since he first mentioned this moth one, but this is

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one that if you are, I suppose a Devin superfan,

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you've probably you know, had your is to the ground

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being like when will we hear what is that thing

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that he's spoken about? It seems to be huge. It

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has twenty four tracks on it, and it's gonna be

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coming out on May the twenty ninth. And there is

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a track that has come out from this called Enter

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the City, And I don't know if you heard this track, Sam, Yeah,

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well let me tell you it is a considering. Again,

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he was describing it as like a super layered, symphonic

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type record, and Devin does so much you're never actually

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sure if that means it's a heavy record or not,

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you know, like it is this going to be just

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some like total you know, ambient streams, gapes I've does

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that he does maybe leaning on the classical side it is.

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I would wager just from this advanced track that there

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will be metal involved on the record. This Entered the

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City track feels like a like an introduction, like it's

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less than three minutes long, this track, and it feels

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like the sort of overture or most of like a

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piece of musical theater, particularly if you know it's called

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there's this sort of lots of imagery of you know,

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a kind of heavily industrialized city and all this you know,

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workers at playing all that kind of stuff, and it

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feels like it's this could be the start of a

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musical being like now we're entering into our setting and

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these are the citizens of the you know, the location

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where this story plays out, and we're gonna see what's

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going on with them. And there is like a hint

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of heavy guitar, which is what makes me believe there

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will be some more metal on the album. But majorly

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it's like layered choirs just being like, you know, hello,

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welcome to the city, that whole kind of thing that

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you can imagine it doing as I just described to you.

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So it's not necessarily given away, you know, the scope

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of how f other thing may go. But I get

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the feel just from it being a less than three

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minute long, primarily choir led introductory track that feels like

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it's bringing you into a world and as very specific

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set and the fact that he has been working for

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so long. I mean, the light Work album I liked,

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but I wasn't blown away by it necessarily. It's not

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one of my favorite Devon records. The Power Nerd album

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I thought was all right, but you know, kind of

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disappointing really for what we expect from Devon. This feels like,

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just the vibes of it feels like this could be

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the most I suppose, full scale Devin project as we

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know it in coming since EmPATH, you know, and that

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was seven years ago now, So this does actually feel

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like a you know, I don't want to just completely

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put all my eggs into the basket of its quality

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or whatever in comparisons to anything else ever done, but

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just in terms of the seeming scale of the project.

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a Devin fan who has been you know, maybe you know,

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floating away a little bit from being like completely on

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top of what he's doing. This feels like one of

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the oh, we should actually check in for this when

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this feels big.

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Speaker 2: No shit, that does sound interesting.

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Speaker 3: I've kind of been a bit more casual on the

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more recent Yeah, something like this that does have a

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bit more of that kind of like wider scope to

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it could be that kind of like gets me back

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on board of his recorded output of recent.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm certainly curious about what the new Devin

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record The Moth is gonna sound like. And we'll hear

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in May. Venom I've also come back. This is you know,

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the main Venom, not Venom Ink, who have been much

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more prominent of late, but the main Venom have come

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back with a new album called Into Oblivion. It's also

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out in May, but it's May the first. It has

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an album cover that kind of looks to be a

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sort of ugly AI reimagining of the famous Black Metal

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Face cover. The song that's come out it's not great,

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it's not very good. It amuses me that they've still

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not really worked out how to produce things, Like it's

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been so many decades, and at least it's not the

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same like a band of Venom's you know, legacy and stature.

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You can imagine them just having the same sort of stock,

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big old metal band production job that any you know,

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sort of thrash or heavy metal band of their generation

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might have. And it's not quite that. But why is

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there a douvet over the top of this, Like they've

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just still not quite worked out to produce and make Venom,

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you know, obviously in a very different way to what

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it was forty years ago, but like they've still not

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quite touched there, which in no way is charming, But

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there you go. And there's also a new announcement from

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Six Feet Under that they've got a new album.

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Speaker 3: Coming up, Big Hitters coming out all of the legendary

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bands who we know are still reliably great in this

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day and age, Yeah, all of those.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, it's called Next to Die, which does sound like

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a threat, doesn't it. That's out on April twenty fourth,

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And there is a track out called Unmistakable Smell of Death.

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I would say, as a you know, I check in

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every now and then were six Feet underd just to

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see what level we're working at. I would say this

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song is mostly better than you know, a decent bit

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of what has come out of late. Certainly I think

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was it like Nightmares of the Decomposed. The twenty twenty

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record is the one that everyone just sort of turned

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to look and go, what the fuck are you doing?

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Because he kept going on every single song.

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Speaker 2: That's the one.

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Speaker 3: Every time I heard that a really stupid noises making,

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I was like, this is you know, the guy who

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was on those you know, legend they Cannibal Corps albums.

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Speaker 1: And now he's just going, yeah, this track, he mostly

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sort of stays in a mid range, and you know,

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the riffs are okay. So it's certainly not the worst

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six Feet Under and put out by any means. But

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it did amuse me that when I watched the you know,

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the the video for this that's come out on Metal

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Blade Records. As far as I could see, it's one

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of the only recent videos of theirs which has the

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comments turned off, which is certainly endorsement, isn't it. But really,

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my favorite thing about this is just the promo pick

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that's come out of you know, Chris and Jacko in

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the former Camical Corps guitarist who is now in six

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fet Under as well. And Chris is just kind of

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like pointing out at the camera and he looks like

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he's going get a load of this guy. This guy

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doesn't know the graveyard classics.

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Speaker 3: Like.

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Speaker 1: It's just a very amusing picture to me. But that's

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coming out. The most interesting, I think piece of music

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that has been you know, put out there this week

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comes from Eternal Champion, who have finally reappeared. They just

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today as we're recording this, they put a surprise EP

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which is called Friend of War. And Eternal Champion are

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like one of, if not maybe the scene leader in

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the contemporary age when it comes to you know us

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power metal basically kind of the old schooled trad heavy

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metal revivalism stuff that's actually popular sort of cross scene

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like they have really like they're a big part of

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making that into kind of a wave again. I suppose

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along with bands like Visagarth and so and who, those

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two would be like the two leaders of that really

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for me. Arthur Rizzik, the you know, very renowned producer

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is guitarist in this band Jason Tarpie, formerly of the

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great Texas harcore band iron Age, is the vocalist in

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this band, very very revered band. It has been six

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years since they last released any us it. Their album

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Ravening Iron came out in twenty twenty and it's fucking great.

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But we do have to wait a little while between

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Ternal Champion releases, which is why it was such a

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brilliant thrill seeing that they had suddenly just surprised dropped

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an EP today. It also comes saying that there will

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be album number three coming later this year, which great stuff.

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I like that this is a I don't want to

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say it's a taste of the album because it's not

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very deliberate, like this is a different thing and the

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album will arrive later and you know, follow up in

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it in a different manner. But very brilliant news, having

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not only new Internal Champion on the way, but something

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new of theirs right now to hear and Sam. When

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I open this EP and I saw it was thirty

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one minutes long, consisting of two tracks. One is about

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like thirteen minutes long, one is eighteen minutes long, I

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did not really know what it would entail because, like

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you know, they've done. They've done like synth releases before,

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but like in a short form, you know, and they

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are like an epic heavy metal band, but their songs

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have not really exceeded like the ten minute mark before

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this suddenly getting this like large and expansive in Eternal

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Champion project, I was like, what does this? What does

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this mean? Because they've never done this before. And we

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will go into detail in just a second about what

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these songs are, but just that as a sort of

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bold statement to appear after I said six years and go,

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here's a new EP and it is the largest and

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most out there I suppose tracks they've ever done. And

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considering what we've just said, and I know that you

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will back me in terms of the different demographics, I

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suppose that Total Champion have managed to like worm their

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way into It's quite a bold booth, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: I opened it and I was like I was only

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turned and I was like very omene something as like

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again even having to play I've not actuallyen the individual

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song names, but I was like, what do you mean?

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Reminded me of was when Blood Incutation they came up

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with that like EP or like, yeah, two songs I

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was kind of like, Okay, is this because I know,

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obviously quite different having bands, but they feel like they're

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kind of part of the same.

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Speaker 1: There are certain things on this release that I would

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draw direct parallels.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. So I was kind of like really curious.

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I was like, I'm guessing at the very least we're

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getting like a proper like I was. I was like,

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around fifteen minutes and minutes in the song, I was like,

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we must be getting these one real like epic heavy

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metal kind of like you know, Latter Day Maid and

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like full on those kind of like things. But when

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that doesn't sound ship and when that actually has a

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bit of to it because it's Eternal Champion doing it

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and not Old Iron.

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Speaker 2: Maiden, which you know, I don't thinking, but I was.

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I was intrigued. And again my immediate kind of thing

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I put in.

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Speaker 3: The chat was I was like, man, a total sheppin,

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are really trying to scare off the the hardcore contingent

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that has like worm. This went again because adult Chapmen

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have been able to sell trad metal to hardcore fans,

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to people who would go to Outbreak and Sound and

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Fury and those kind of places and wouldn't go to

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Bloodstock or like anyone.

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Speaker 1: I said that they have members people directly you know,

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linked to Iron Age, Iron Age and War Hungry and

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these are the kind of bands that you know are

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in the past lineage of them, these guys.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, that's popping pup it.

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Speaker 3: But they have just but whilst not playing particularly hardcore

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tings music, hardcore fans really like Eternal Champion and like again,

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I like hardcore and I do like heavy metal, So

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Til Champion one of those kind of like ideal bands

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for me, kind of like marrying that kind of like

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cultural thing with just doing proper like eighties like you know,

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bare chested, muscle ripped dudes with swords, heavy metal, and

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so I was like, okay, so that they are going

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to be pushing this.

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Speaker 2: To the limit.

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Speaker 3: And you know what Track one, I mean is fucking

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awesome on this I think is great.

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Speaker 2: I mean because it is that kind of.

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Speaker 3: Like you say, thirteen minute progressive, expansive but still kind

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of hitting you with that real just kind of like

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awesome traadmill thing that Turnal Champion do and ask are

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like wicked. I'm I'm so glad we're getting this. And

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then you know, track two happens, and this is where

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I mean, this is gonna be the bigger talking point

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track I think for a lot of people when it

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comes to.

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Speaker 1: EP, isn't it I'm not actually sure about that because

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I think both tracks together really do push the boat

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out for Eternal Champion because the first song. You could

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argue that maybe the weirder of the two, because the

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first song is this apparently the whole EP is like

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specifically based around the Dark Crusade fantasy novel by Carl

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Edward Wagner, which is a very Eternal Champion thing to

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be doing. Put in such specific reference points. Overall, the

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EP it works together for me because it has this

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like slower breathing, methodical kind of metering out the journey

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you're going on approach with Eternal Champion and the first song,

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which is the metal one of the two, but it's

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the most like layered heavy metal song. It is what

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they have done.

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Speaker 3: Patient it's not like kind of like in a media

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like they do. They do build on it, but I

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still feel like they're kind of layering in the different

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ideas and moving the pieces along at a decent clip

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where it never feels like two drawn out that it

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is impenetrable for.

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Speaker 2: Someone who doesn't like excessively long.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's just it's a very layered and dense

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and it feels like there's a lot of different ideas

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throwing to different passages of it songs. Overall, I would

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say that there is a sort of mystical atmosphere to this,

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which does link it into the second track for me.

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But when you think about like the score and the

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atmosphere of something like the Arnold was watchenegger Cone and

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the Barbarian film, and it has that sort of like

478
00:21:11,839 --> 00:21:14,680
that empty, meditative kind of landscape to it, I think

479
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,079
that's the sort of world that this, you know, lives.

480
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,640
In the first track, it has one of those like bruising,

481
00:21:19,799 --> 00:21:23,359
you know, kind of mosh worthy Arthur Rizzik epic doom riffs,

482
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,960
but it is slow. It's not one of their fast

483
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,799
songs for sure, and it slowly advances building all these

484
00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:30,039
harmonies and stuff. It does have gang vocals in it,

485
00:21:30,079 --> 00:21:33,119
going the dark crusade, so that's great, but then you

486
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,839
get like a fucking mental sort of flamenco guitar solo bit.

487
00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:39,640
It's about seven minutes in and similarly, like that's what

488
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,200
they kind of do. There are a lot of passages

489
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,960
without this first song, which is again on its own,

490
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,000
like thirteen of minutes long, that sprinkle in weird like

491
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,599
it feels like they have been in the studio really

492
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,319
like tampering and toying with things and trying to make

493
00:21:52,319 --> 00:21:54,359
it just this first song alone as sort of you know,

494
00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:58,680
intricate as any piece of music they've done before. And

495
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,759
that's cool and that's interesting, And just that first track alone,

496
00:22:00,759 --> 00:22:02,279
I feel like I need to you know, I've listened

497
00:22:02,319 --> 00:22:04,559
to the overall EP twice. Now just that first track alone,

498
00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:05,839
I feel like I need to give plenty more goes

499
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,559
to really get inside all the different parts that are

500
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,240
going on with it. And then we get to the

501
00:22:10,279 --> 00:22:14,200
second track, and it's where they go full Tangerine dream.

502
00:22:14,279 --> 00:22:15,880
And when I saw the first you know, the two

503
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,359
songs and the two lengths, I did not presume if

504
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,119
there was going to be a standalone synth track on

505
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,440
the record, which is not alien at all, right, but

506
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,680
you would not necessarily assume that the longer of the two.

507
00:22:26,839 --> 00:22:30,039
This is where I would say that they are clearly

508
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,160
even though this is an epic heavy metal band and

509
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,359
not a progressive death metal band. It's a group of

510
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:39,359
musicians because Arthur Rizzick produced you might remember the last

511
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:42,000
Blow Incantation album, right, and we were talking. We were

512
00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,920
talking about the incredible like organic attention to detail on

513
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,240
just like the synth tones and stuff like that that

514
00:22:48,519 --> 00:22:50,440
are involved with that kind of thing. So even though

515
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,759
obviously there are a different mode of band, they clearly

516
00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:57,160
share so many interests and so many reference points and

517
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,920
stuff like that, and it is a world where like

518
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,640
both from the death metal world and the sort of

519
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,160
epic heavy metal world, something like Tangerine Dream and their

520
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,000
soundtrack work and stuff like that is like a common

521
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,640
reference bruit, Yeah, between those things that both could lean into.

522
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:13,519
And for that reason, I think the instrumental sound of

523
00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:17,559
this and the tones of it is so rich and

524
00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:20,079
it's so textured and just like it's not just a

525
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,880
fucking you know, shit cassio keyboard or whatever. It's like

526
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:28,240
fucking blooding cantation do. It's proper molded worked over like

527
00:23:28,759 --> 00:23:32,240
droney organic synth worth and stuff like that. And the

528
00:23:32,279 --> 00:23:34,799
melodies I find are pretty gorgeous, and I think I

529
00:23:34,839 --> 00:23:36,880
would say, like, you know, obviously there's an even more

530
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,440
since Drenched record that we can refer to here as

531
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,039
time Wave zero from Blooding Cantation, which was there fully

532
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,319
by Electronic Record, And I'm a big fan of that release,

533
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,279
and I would say if you like that particular relief

534
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,759
from blood Contation Record, you just definitely check out this

535
00:23:50,039 --> 00:23:53,480
second Eternal Champion song because it's similarly beautiful, similarly full

536
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,920
of kind of yearning and elegance and stuff like that.

537
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,039
What really then sold it to me is about halfway

538
00:23:59,039 --> 00:24:04,680
through it kind of morphs seamlessly from that like tangerine

539
00:24:04,759 --> 00:24:08,480
dreamy synth work stuff into like harps and there's all

540
00:24:08,519 --> 00:24:11,319
sorts of like different distrumentation that suddenly comes in and

541
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,960
it's like this shimmering dream where that just like the

542
00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:18,039
way it blends the sounds and kind of hands off

543
00:24:18,039 --> 00:24:20,519
one to the other is really wonderful.

544
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, So this is that I think this is really

545
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,119
fucking cool that they've done this. Like I don't want

546
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,000
to like proof them to do something. It is a

547
00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:35,920
hell of a swing that I just that isn't necessarily

548
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,559
for me. I do agree. It is way more kind

549
00:24:38,599 --> 00:24:42,039
of like sonically rich than any kind of like you know,

550
00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:47,680
MIDI keyboard like like attempt at it. There was you know,

551
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,759
a message because I did can I se in the

552
00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:52,960
group by them scaring off the hardcore fans?

553
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: And then about like ten minutes later, I was.

554
00:24:55,119 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 3: Like, like eight minutes of record, it was a bit much.

555
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,279
Speaker 1: If Jordan from a Loud Dispute was wiping snot out

556
00:25:06,319 --> 00:25:08,559
of his nose talking about when his scooter got run

557
00:25:08,559 --> 00:25:10,440
over when he was eight years old over that instrumental,

558
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:11,319
you would like it.

559
00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't disagreeadist people don't do that for eighteen minutes, Like.

560
00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 2: I do agree.

561
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 3: I think there are passages in this amount of trucks

562
00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:24,480
that I think are really nice. And again I think,

563
00:25:24,519 --> 00:25:26,400
as I kind of like go at it, I'm like,

564
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,480
I mean, I mean, I'm not gonna like say it's

565
00:25:29,519 --> 00:25:32,160
bad or anything. I mean like, he's really sonically interesting.

566
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,279
There's really there's individual bikes, and I was like, I

567
00:25:34,319 --> 00:25:36,680
really like that. I just don't think I'm ever gonna

568
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720
sit and listen to the for l eighty minute whatever. Again,

569
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,960
that was my kind of takeaway from I was like,

570
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:44,119
good on you, until Champion for being this bold on

571
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:48,039
your first music in six years and really not caring

572
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,160
and like doing.

573
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 2: What He's for you.

574
00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 3: I think that's fucking awesome, and I think I would

575
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,519
love it if they can integrate parts of this kind

576
00:25:56,559 --> 00:26:01,759
of like tantine dream soundscape stuff into the next album,

577
00:26:02,079 --> 00:26:05,039
like like what Blood in Cantation did on Apple Elsware. Again,

578
00:26:05,079 --> 00:26:07,279
I don't particularly care time with Zero Sure, but I

579
00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,400
love that stuff being used within the wider context of

580
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,359
what Blood Incantation do. I'm totally down for Eternal Champion

581
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,160
kind of having this kind of like more kestral or

582
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,359
like just sort of soundtrack soundscape stuff weaved in and

583
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:22,559
out of the heavy metal stuff more.

584
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 2: I hope we do get more of that.

585
00:26:24,599 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: I just think as an eighteen minute track, I'm not gonna,

586
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,920
you know, reach for this again necessarily, but you are right,

587
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:33,960
this is the most interesting piece of music that has

588
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,720
been released this week.

589
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I was just thinking about just how how

590
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,519
nice and boundaryless stuff seems to be these days. But

591
00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,920
like we said, this is a band with you know,

592
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,160
origins and background in bands coming from the hardcore scene

593
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,640
like Iron Age and stuff like that. And then they

594
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:52,480
have you know, formed this Man of War, Kirathung Goal

595
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:56,319
Manilla road worshiping epic heavy metal band, and they are

596
00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,759
able to take that into doing a eighteen minute drone

597
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,359
synth track that's also then you know, obviously that's the

598
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:06,359
second part of this EP, and the first song alone

599
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:09,200
has loads of layers and ideas and stuff in it,

600
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,279
and this it has an air of like, you know,

601
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,119
when we get the third Eternal Champion album later down

602
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,839
this year, I would imagine that you'll probably like it

603
00:27:15,839 --> 00:27:17,319
a lot more than the EP because I imagine that

604
00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:19,599
will deliver more traditionally the good.

605
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 3: I do agree, yeah, but I don't want the stuff

606
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,400
that I'm not as king on the EP to almost

607
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,880
be absent. I would I would like them to sort

608
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,200
of continue to experiment with this. I just would liked

609
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:29,839
it more.

610
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: Within the framework of the heavy metal.

611
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: I can't believe I'm saying I want more heavy like

612
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,200
we've got the road now my sam is begging for

613
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:37,960
more heavy.

614
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:39,799
Speaker 1: Mans you're begging to them to bring back the manor

615
00:27:39,839 --> 00:27:42,599
War for sure. But yeah, I just I just think

616
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,160
it's really cool for them to have done this EP

617
00:27:44,319 --> 00:27:46,960
that just really feels like they're pushing the boat out

618
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,680
on it, you know, and it is a it's not

619
00:27:49,759 --> 00:27:51,799
just a stop gap EP that leads you on to

620
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:54,119
it the next thing. It is like a genuine work

621
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,599
and a self sufficient kind of universe in its own right,

622
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,559
and they've clearly worked so fucking hard on it, and

623
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,200
it's really really cool. I they get really really really nice.

624
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,000
It's again, it's not on Lessard my favorite Ternal Champion

625
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,359
material ever, but it's certainly the motion you know, compositionally

626
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:10,599
and texturally ambitious, and it does get me really excited

627
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,799
for you know, album number three coming down, when I

628
00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:14,519
imagine not only will we have you know, some of

629
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:16,640
this textual stuff, but we'll also have some straight up

630
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,839
horns in the air bangers to go with it as well.

631
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,079
So yeah, if you don't know Eternal Champion, so some

632
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,599
mad times to get on board with them put out,

633
00:28:23,599 --> 00:28:27,079
but it is there the Friend of War ep and

634
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,000
in terms of again similarly you know heavy metal and

635
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:36,039
epic minded stuff, spirit Adrift just now as well. They

636
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:40,599
have put out a standalone single. It's called Eternal Celestial Energy.

637
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:42,880
It is ahead, so it's stand alone. It's not included

638
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,960
on but it comes ahead of their album that will

639
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,799
come later this year. They have announced it. It's very likely.

640
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:50,319
I mean, they seems quite final in the way they're

641
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:52,640
phrasing it, it's going to be their final album. They

642
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,119
are playing a show quite shortly in America where they

643
00:28:56,119 --> 00:28:59,799
are going to be saying that's their final performance. I

644
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:03,119
you know, it's Nate who is the and the front

645
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:06,160
man and the main creative kind of drive behind Spirit Drift.

646
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,240
I know that he's been going through a lot of

647
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,000
fucking hard stuff lately.

648
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:10,559
Speaker 3: You know.

649
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: I listened to his his podcast and he's his wife

650
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:15,839
has been going through a cancer diagnosis, and they've got

651
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,039
like a go fund me over there and that kind

652
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:19,200
of thing. And you know, if you've enjoyed Spirit Drift

653
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,599
and you're able, then you know you could head over

654
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,880
there and throw something in their way. I bring that

655
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,400
up specifically because the lyrics on this song are unavoidable

656
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:32,039
if you, you know, have any knowledge of their situation.

657
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,400
It's a more doomy song, then you know, it kind

658
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,799
of throws back a little bit too. Spirit Drifts more

659
00:29:37,839 --> 00:29:40,319
doom beginnings compared to the more kind of ass kicking

660
00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:42,920
heavy metal stuff they've been doing lately, and considering the

661
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,039
emotional Contex stuff. But that makes a lot of sense

662
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:48,440
because you know, it still has a really strong, powerful

663
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:51,200
main doom rift that has those like great Crowbarry sort

664
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,240
of harmonies. They can do that kind of thing, you know,

665
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:56,359
the Paul Bearer sort of atmospheric into it as well.

666
00:29:56,519 --> 00:29:59,160
But you know, vocally and lyrically, there's a lot of

667
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,559
kind of genuine, you know, sorrow and Catharsis going on

668
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,799
through here as well. So yeah, pretty unavoidably you know,

669
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:10,160
emotional and powerful track, but comes ahead of the final

670
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,759
supposedly spirit a Drift album, so of course we'll you know,

671
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,240
keep our eyes on that as well. Let's move into

672
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,640
back to some hardcore stuff, because if you got too

673
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,599
scared by the long long since, then we could talk

674
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:24,119
about some hardcore again. This is interesting. I suppose sixty

675
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,640
eight Josh Googin, formerly of Normal Gene and the Chariot,

676
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,319
his band that he's been doing for however many years now,

677
00:30:29,319 --> 00:30:31,119
six d eight they've announced that they are embarking on a

678
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,640
farewell tour, another band, you know, departing our world, and

679
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:37,240
I guess let's just address that on its own. First

680
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,359
of all, Josh Goggin is you know, one of those

681
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,000
really legendary vocalist figures in the worlds of you know,

682
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:46,559
sort of metallic hardcore. I absolutely love as we've discussed

683
00:30:46,599 --> 00:30:49,240
various times, I absolutely love the normal Gene record that

684
00:30:49,279 --> 00:30:51,759
he is on, I Know, the Chariot of this very

685
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,079
like legendary band as well. Sixty eight. I have to

686
00:30:54,079 --> 00:30:56,480
say I've never like gotten into They're just kind of

687
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,440
in my head they're like, oh, yeah, that's Josh Goggin's

688
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,680
current thing. But I've like not really like gotten into

689
00:31:02,119 --> 00:31:05,000
sixty eight. So in terms of this specific band in

690
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:07,000
his you know Uvra coming to an end, what are

691
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,480
your thoughts on you know sixty eight?

692
00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:10,799
Speaker 3: I suppose overall, yeah, I like I've seen him like

693
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:13,119
a couple of times and I'm like, I was like,

694
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,160
it's cool because just Scogin doing this is the way

695
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,079
he's or something that's a bit cooler because he's just

696
00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:19,759
one of those vocalists. But it's him doing the garage

697
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:21,960
rock two piece that everyone decided they wanted to start

698
00:31:22,039 --> 00:31:24,720
doing in like the sort of the mid twenty tens.

699
00:31:24,799 --> 00:31:26,519
It was good like and as you can I mentioned

700
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:28,720
that or just skogging does have a bit more kind

701
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,359
of like bite to it. But as someone who loves

702
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,119
his Normalgy record, loves the Chariot and never quite hit

703
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,759
in the same way for me, but it seemed like

704
00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:39,559
he was kind of like so he was, he was

705
00:31:39,559 --> 00:31:43,680
always enjoying doing and was sort of very creatively.

706
00:31:42,839 --> 00:31:43,559
Speaker 2: Fulfilling for him.

707
00:31:43,599 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: So that's why obviously it's been maybe like probably his

708
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:50,319
longest sort of like going project at this point. I

709
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:51,839
think he was in the sixty longer than he was

710
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,720
in the chart because they were like say like early

711
00:31:54,759 --> 00:31:57,240
to mid twenty tens. They got going after the Chariot split,

712
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,599
so like kept it going for a good while.

713
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, but this announcement coming, like, you know, the week

714
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,319
after or whatever, Better Lovers announced that they were you know,

715
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:09,359
splitting from from Grappa Chatto on Vocals and you know

716
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:10,839
throw ourselves back at you know, a week or two

717
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,839
whatever it was, that announcement came, and just the discussion

718
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,359
online aside from just Keith Buckley, the name that people

719
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,359
were throwing out to be like go get him, go

720
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,960
get that guy, would Joss Goggin, because I suppose that

721
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,559
you could almost put those in a like a trio

722
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,680
of the legendary Live Wire hard or front Man from

723
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,240
like you know who came out of that specific area

724
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,519
in like the early noughties. You know, like Joss Goggin

725
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:33,880
is one of the other guys who could throw into

726
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,400
that camp. So when this announcement came right after the

727
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,640
Better Lovers announcement, naturally or maybe unnaturally, I suppose this

728
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,480
is what we're about to debate, but lots of people went,

729
00:32:41,559 --> 00:32:43,480
oh my god, Josh Goggan must be joining a better others.

730
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,880
What's your take on that? Sam, And I think he

731
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,839
said that Joss Coggin has specifically come out and said

732
00:32:48,839 --> 00:32:50,759
he's not joying Better Lovers, So I guess it's more

733
00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:54,200
about the actual We're not theorizing here. It's more just

734
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,960
about like the culture that that you know, people have

735
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:58,599
jumped on that so much. What's your take on that

736
00:32:58,599 --> 00:32:59,200
whole scenario?

737
00:33:00,039 --> 00:33:02,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like I said, he like was immediately

738
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:04,440
in Instagram comments saying like, yeah, no, this fair olds

739
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,720
aways been in the worlds for a while.

740
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 2: I'm not joining Better Lovers. I love those dudes.

741
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:08,119
Speaker 1: You know.

742
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,359
Speaker 3: He's like like six eight have toured with Better Lovers

743
00:33:10,359 --> 00:33:13,960
fairly recently, so like there are linked bands, but he

744
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:16,960
has specifically shot down those rumors. This to me was

745
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,680
kind of like, ah, this is immediately laid out the

746
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:20,960
sort of the herd or Better Lovers is gonna have

747
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,119
to overcome now, which is everyone is expecting their next

748
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,759
vocalist to be an established kind of like yeah, superstar

749
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,680
in the sort of metallic hardcore scene vocalist to step

750
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,759
in and feel the roles, and I'm like, that's going

751
00:33:35,839 --> 00:33:37,519
to be a that's gonna be something they're going to

752
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:40,279
have to kind of like reckon with when if their

753
00:33:40,319 --> 00:33:43,799
new vocalist isn't, you know, a Josh Skoggin type character,

754
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:46,640
an established due that every one knows and likes and

755
00:33:46,839 --> 00:33:49,319
is just some guy, which I mean I get, I

756
00:33:49,319 --> 00:33:51,640
would almost quite like it to be some new guy

757
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,880
to kind of like just give some because it will

758
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,480
take off away of expectations of kind of like the

759
00:33:56,759 --> 00:33:59,119
the the difficult explation was, you know, the every time

760
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,079
I dial in your thing with lovers in the first place,

761
00:34:01,759 --> 00:34:05,680
So having that with the chariot normal geen guy, I

762
00:34:05,759 --> 00:34:08,400
was like, that's again putting away of expectation. I mean,

763
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,000
my first thing was like, why are we jumping to

764
00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:13,280
Joss Goggin joining better lovers when they were like, bring

765
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,639
back the fucking chariot lads, come on, like I want

766
00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:16,039
to see.

767
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: The chariot line like that would That was my first thing.

768
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,519
Speaker 3: Of like if because I never got to see the Chariot,

769
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:22,800
so I'm like, if six done, I.

770
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,599
Speaker 2: Was like, go back to that.

771
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,199
Speaker 3: But I mean I'm like, I imagine just Scoggin will be

772
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,039
back to do something. But yeah, I never kind of

773
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:31,880
when I saw the breaking that was not my first foot.

774
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,840
I was kind of like, ah, man, this is this

775
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,360
is going to be just something a better lover is

776
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,199
gonna have to kind of like reckon with potentially, and

777
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,719
fans are particularly might have to accept we might not

778
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,239
be getting the superstar hardcore vocalist again funning better lovers.

779
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: It might be a guy, Yeah, quite possibly. Let's stay

780
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,400
in hardcore drama. I suppose this is just like, this

781
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,960
is almost several weeks worth of stuff that I've like

782
00:34:52,079 --> 00:34:55,599
largely ignored putting in because it just seemed nonsense. But

783
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,280
I suppose it's just happened so often.

784
00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:58,599
Speaker 2: Now.

785
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:03,519
Speaker 1: Brady Ebert, who was guitarist for quite a long time

786
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:07,239
in Turnstile. He was then later in a band called

787
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,079
The Set, I mentioned this, you know. He just also

788
00:35:10,119 --> 00:35:13,760
say that I did forget to include their EP release

789
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,840
in last week's release Random. It's just the one that

790
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,039
I just overlooked and didn't put in there. I know

791
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:21,000
obviously some people have ha been spinning that, but that

792
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:24,559
was yeah, yeah Brady from Turnstile, who immediately or you know,

793
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:28,360
fairly swiftly started getting headlines for you know, talking some

794
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,079
smack about Turnstile I suppose, and you know a bit

795
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,079
of a bit of back and forth, just just just

796
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:36,079
back and nothing I suppose going on there. The really

797
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:39,239
funny butt was when the set then kicked him out

798
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:42,840
and seemingly for talking to smack about Turnstar be like yeah,

799
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,360
tursdarll are great, we just don't want this like this,

800
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,280
this hater band. So he's out and now Brady Eber

801
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,360
is launching his his next new band, which is called Experience,

802
00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:57,440
and is you know, as you could predict here, starting

803
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,079
to talk a bit of smack about the set and

804
00:35:59,079 --> 00:36:01,599
he kicked him out and spose the headline here is

805
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:05,800
just hardcore drama. Brady Ebert's entire existence as someone who

806
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:07,599
have probably paid more attention to this guy than I have.

807
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,840
What's what's this guy's whole deal? What's going on with them?

808
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: So again, like I never knew when he was removed

809
00:36:14,519 --> 00:36:16,599
left removed from terms of whatever, I kind of stopped

810
00:36:16,599 --> 00:36:18,920
paying against that, and then saw you know, Brady Bit's

811
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,679
about for a new band and they're kind of heavy again,

812
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,679
and I was like, yeah, there is those riffs that

813
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,199
you know, people who really like early Times, in particular

814
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,800
the SEO self evident truth it is like they had that.

815
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 2: I was like cool.

816
00:36:29,039 --> 00:36:30,599
Speaker 3: And then he was going off on a tire rade

817
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:35,199
about Turnstile, saying like quite kind of like libelous, slanderous.

818
00:36:35,199 --> 00:36:36,800
I can't in one way back like which when it

819
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:40,920
like accusing them of stealing money from charity gigs and

820
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,079
stuff like that. And so I can imagine then that

821
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,159
if you're a new band in the bottom of hardcore

822
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:49,760
scene and you're like, our guitarist is accusing the biggest

823
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,480
band Arsen has ever produced of stealing from charity. This

824
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:55,639
is kind of overshadowing the new music we're trying to

825
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:57,440
put out. I don't blame the guys and seven of

826
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,719
them who going like we don't want any part of this,

827
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:04,039
please like take this elsewhere, and again like I've not

828
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:06,360
been trying to take side this, but I, like a

829
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,800
lot of people quite quickly refuted his claims about Turnstile

830
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,719
and all of that, and it's kind of like, right, okay.

831
00:37:13,039 --> 00:37:14,559
But then the funniest one is the when he said

832
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:16,840
this new band and he's gone, yeah, don't listen to

833
00:37:17,079 --> 00:37:19,599
the cover's EP, the self evident truth just put out,

834
00:37:19,639 --> 00:37:22,519
and I'm like, hang on a second, Like, Okay, I understand,

835
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:24,360
it's a bit interesting. You just recorded an EP and

836
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,519
they've kicked you out right as come out.

837
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 2: But you didn't do everything on that EP.

838
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 3: The other guys in that band are entitled to have

839
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,960
their work appreciate as well.

840
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,559
Speaker 2: So I was like, are you, like.

841
00:37:35,639 --> 00:37:39,679
Speaker 1: Is he the data of contemporary hardcore risks? I don't know.

842
00:37:40,519 --> 00:37:42,119
Speaker 2: It's everyone's like it's chromags again.

843
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 3: It's it's like a Harley fangm for the new age,

844
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,440
Like I'm just gonna like bitter hardcore dudes kind of

845
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,760
just like getting angry and like again, if he wanted

846
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,679
to know sid Zone bands and let the muta the talking,

847
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,559
I think that would have been totally valid and then

848
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,039
and I think a lot of people would have gone

849
00:37:57,559 --> 00:37:59,599
with him because his guitar tone is one of the

850
00:37:59,639 --> 00:38:01,880
things that he people have maybe said and someone who's

851
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,800
riffing is the things that people have kind.

852
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: Of missed from some of the later Turnstile stuff.

853
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 3: But then it's just come of so much baggage and

854
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,760
like bitterness and like jaded hardcore nons, and so I'm

855
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,960
just kind of gone, I've stopped paying attention you. You

856
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:17,440
chat your shit and everyone's going to ignore you. In

857
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:18,960
turns are going to be massive whatever.

858
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:23,199
Speaker 1: I look forward to the Farewell Experience album in thirty

859
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,159
years time, ending on a bonus track of Brady but

860
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:31,199
recording a version of Never Enough. I think it's the

861
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:37,199
unnatural way, isn't it. It's gonna end right torn you.

862
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,119
It's quite exciting in I guess it's a long fucking

863
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:44,480
way away now. But in early twenty twenty seven, Whitechapel

864
00:38:44,679 --> 00:38:49,000
and Psilosis have announced a co headline European run, specially

865
00:38:49,039 --> 00:38:51,000
in the UK. You know, if you're one of our

866
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,800
native listeners, then Silosis our builders like you know, closing

867
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,079
the run. But everywhere else it's you know, together and

868
00:38:58,159 --> 00:38:59,679
you know in the UK they're going to be playing

869
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:04,119
Glass Go London, Manchester, Bristol and Birmingham. This is obviously

870
00:39:04,199 --> 00:39:07,079
that's a great bill, good time, very very tempting. I

871
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:10,039
suppose it. It's it's weird how small the venues are,

872
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:12,920
considering they are smaller than the venues that Silosis just

873
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,440
headline on their own. And this is with a you know,

874
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:19,920
arguably as big band in Whitechapel.

875
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 3: A band I've seen sell out the Electric Ballroom, which

876
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:23,039
is where they're.

877
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,519
Speaker 2: Playing in London.

878
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 3: It's a it's and I mean this to me feels

879
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,679
that the natural package that could, like where Solos is again,

880
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,320
I don't think that last socio when I would in

881
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,400
the Forum the same night as Deathtones and all that,

882
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,039
they had bad like bad luck on that one a

883
00:39:36,039 --> 00:39:38,960
little bit, but like combining with the Heaven Shabano seem

884
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,679
to make it a lot more successful. But I thought

885
00:39:41,679 --> 00:39:43,400
they could do bigger venues when you do this package,

886
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,280
especially when you're bringing along two hundred stab Wounds and

887
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,559
Tribal Gays, two of the kind of like buzzier hardcore

888
00:39:50,559 --> 00:39:52,800
adjacent deafine bands. This feels like a sort of package

889
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,039
that you could could take to some quite seriously big

890
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:57,920
venues just because of the excite around the bands.

891
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,599
Speaker 2: But yeah, I like, I wonder if.

892
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:02,519
Speaker 3: They've just gone out, we're going to just do you know,

893
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:04,599
such my venus sort of this is what was available

894
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,079
at the time that tour was going ahead.

895
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: I know, it just kind of took me.

896
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,519
Speaker 3: I suppose I would imagine these shows are probably going

897
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:13,800
to sell out pretty quickly if these are not huge

898
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,639
venues and you are getting, like I said, silos or

899
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:17,559
the back of a really good album, white chapel of

900
00:40:17,599 --> 00:40:19,800
the back of a great album with like two really

901
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,880
cool supports. But yeah, this is a great bill that

902
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,320
you should definitely go to. But I'm just I'm surprised

903
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:26,719
it's not going bigger.

904
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: Yes, in December of this year, November, if you were

905
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:33,480
in parts of the Europe, then I PEERI Triumphant are

906
00:40:33,519 --> 00:40:35,920
going to be doing their final run, as they are

907
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,440
describing it, of the gold Star album cycle before they

908
00:40:38,639 --> 00:40:40,760
presumably go off and you know, bring us something new,

909
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,159
because they are very very regular, aren't they. But their

910
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,280
final run of the gold Star cycle is going to

911
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:49,239
be in Europe, and it actually ends in the UK.

912
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,039
The last three dates of the gold Star Cycle are

913
00:40:52,039 --> 00:40:55,159
in London, Leads and Glasgow. They are bringing it along

914
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,079
the grind band noll As support back with them as well,

915
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:02,280
so that's a nice tasty, extreme gnarly package. I'm personally

916
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,320
annoyed at this because they're not playing Manchester and on

917
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,239
like the last like two three albums Imperia Triumphant. They've

918
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,599
made at least like three, if not four, or five

919
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,599
separate trips to the UK, and for some reason, the

920
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:18,400
only time they've played in the Northwest was the half

921
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,480
hour support slot for Eagle And like, I've never known

922
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,280
a band so adverse to playing Manchester, that normally the

923
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,880
second most regular touring city.

924
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: It's really weird. I don't know why.

925
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,119
Speaker 1: And I'm annoyed there because obviously I want to see

926
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:31,400
this band as much as I can. I've only seen

927
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,159
them doing a half hour support slot. But if you

928
00:41:34,199 --> 00:41:36,159
are in London or Leeds or Glasgow or you know,

929
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:39,320
somewhere else in Europe, then Imperia Triumphant I have to go.

930
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,760
You should you should.

931
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,679
Speaker 3: Like say, this is like the gold Star sort of

932
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,039
one where they've done that. I'm like, given that, you know,

933
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:48,760
by far my home people, trumph Alm, I kind of

934
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,679
want to see them on this, So I'm mining this

935
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:54,199
up and kind of like I'll see Dane Naticket's still available.

936
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,840
I reckon I'll grab on for this. It'll be really interesting.

937
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a ridiculous twin Peaks a Walk with Me

938
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,960
themed tour poster for as well with all their very

939
00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:07,039
regular sort of pop culture referencing they're doing, and for

940
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:12,199
you know, our international contingent, particularly the extreme metal leaning contingent,

941
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,199
then there is some good news for you over in

942
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,000
the US. SI the Japanese Haven't Guard Black metal legends

943
00:42:18,039 --> 00:42:21,239
are doing their first US eights in twenty years around

944
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,360
the Fire in the Mountains festival. So that's great stuff there.

945
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,000
And to are Australians down under Candle Mass, the iconic

946
00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:30,039
one of the most important seminal do metal bands of

947
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:33,039
all time. I didn't realize this. They're doing their first

948
00:42:33,079 --> 00:42:37,320
Australian appearances ever. They never went that far south, and

949
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,199
that's like one of thos, like the greatest bands of

950
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,480
all time in that scene. So if you are on

951
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:44,840
Australian doom head, I bet you are flipping the fuck out.

952
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,320
So I'm happy for all of you. Go go forth

953
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,880
and be bewitched right on Patreon. This week from US,

954
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,280
it was a big week hit at T and M

955
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,639
because we've finished off finally the first like two three

956
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,159
months of this year, we were all in deep on

957
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:03,000
this project. We did the final concluding part of our

958
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:07,519
nineteen ninety seven year retrospective special, this particular part having

959
00:43:07,559 --> 00:43:10,360
already covered the bigger ends of metal and then the

960
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,320
sort of alternative rock and punk side in the next part.

961
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,960
This part was cleaning up the underground and the incredibly

962
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:21,039
diverse slate of extreme metal in nineteen ninety seven. We

963
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:22,800
also then, at the very end of it, if you know,

964
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,679
listening to some people will talk about black metal and

965
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,880
doom metal and death metal for like several hours is

966
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,000
not your thing. At the very end of it, we

967
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,039
did also then pick our own individual albums of the

968
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:35,679
year from across the entirety of you know, everything that

969
00:43:35,679 --> 00:43:38,000
we had covered in that special. This is, of course, Sam,

970
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,280
why you led today's episode saying that you've been deep

971
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,199
in the extreme metal pits. Some highs and some lows

972
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:46,920
for you, I'm sure, but overall a positive experience.

973
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 3: Oh way more highs than like I's been like like

974
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:54,039
generally liked almost every record that you kind of like

975
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,280
highlight for me to check out this because this again

976
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,360
was the most kind of like stuff like the stuff

977
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:00,199
I knew the least about.

978
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: From ninet ninety seven.

979
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: There was a couple of records I had kind of

980
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,400
existing history with great and then a lot of those

981
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,480
kind of new discoveries. One album in particular is kind

982
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,480
of like, how have I never seen anyone? And apparently

983
00:44:10,519 --> 00:44:13,280
people have talked about this album in recent years in particular,

984
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,480
just not in my circles, but yeah, like one album

985
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,440
I was like, Jesus Christ, this is unbelievably good. And

986
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:24,400
one album that is like was just selected to talk

987
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,920
to me. We were like, that's the only reason you

988
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,519
made me listen to it. But you know, I'm sure

989
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,719
you all had fun. But no, really like ninet ninety

990
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,159
seven in extreme metal and underground metal, really cool year,

991
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:38,400
it turns out, and one of those things there was

992
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,559
like a lot of nice discoveries and some things I

993
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:42,599
was kind of like, I've even kind of like gone

994
00:44:42,639 --> 00:44:44,639
a bit further with in the wake of doing that,

995
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,719
which is pretty like unexpected.

996
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you again add this on to the

997
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,400
other parts that we've done, and my god, some seminal

998
00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,599
years across the board for several of the scenes that

999
00:44:55,639 --> 00:44:58,360
we were talking about the overall special that we did,

1000
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:01,239
it's like it's many, many hours long because we were

1001
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:05,320
just really like combing through, pulling out as many like recommendations,

1002
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,280
really is what it's about. As we can for you

1003
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,760
guys from that year as it was a like these

1004
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:15,880
year specials that we do, they factually they have the

1005
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,719
largest amounts of albums in them of any specials that

1006
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:20,920
we we can do. So it is like a it's

1007
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,840
a real dedicated headspace kind of thing that we do.

1008
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:26,840
And so I do feel like there's a bit of

1009
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,840
a weight off our shoulders having now complete the whole thing,

1010
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,559
But looking back at it, I'm glad we did it

1011
00:45:30,559 --> 00:45:32,000
and I'm proud of it. And we've got all of

1012
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:33,719
that stuff out there in the world and if you

1013
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,039
want to check that out then patroon dot com slash

1014
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:38,320
that's none MeTL is where you can find it. Having

1015
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,280
done that, we will now move on to you know,

1016
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,639
for the foreseeable. We've got list stuff plans, some fun stuff.

1017
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:47,519
We've got band specials planned immediately a sort of next

1018
00:45:47,519 --> 00:45:50,239
week sometime we are going to Sam and I with

1019
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,719
and go back into the horror pits and we're gonna

1020
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,119
put another T and M does horror focusing in now

1021
00:45:55,199 --> 00:45:57,480
on on mister Sam Raimi because he put out a

1022
00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:00,239
movie very very recently and we want to partner that

1023
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,360
up with some of his other more recent horror work

1024
00:46:03,639 --> 00:46:07,760
and go in on why that guy is still one

1025
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,400
of our guys and one of the top dogs and

1026
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,840
one of the masters of our horror loving hearts still

1027
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,840
to this day. So if you're also a fan of

1028
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:17,920
mister ramy As, you bloody well should be. If not,

1029
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,519
you're a monster and I don't like you. If you

1030
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:23,079
want to hear that, then patron of common Slash, that's

1031
00:46:23,119 --> 00:46:25,039
on that. There's also the place TV as said that

1032
00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:26,920
would be come in sort of next week some time.

1033
00:46:27,039 --> 00:46:30,360
Let's end today with the releases for March of thirteenth,

1034
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,239
twentwenty six. Of course, I feel like there's there's undeniable

1035
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,760
there's one record here that absolutely dwarfs the others in

1036
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,239
terms of I imagine what people will be saying about it.

1037
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,960
The new Lamb of God record Into Oblivion is out today.

1038
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:46,719
Been lots of I guess, hype I suppose around this record.

1039
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,239
Obviously we'll review it when the time comes a little

1040
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,079
bit later in the month, but the chance to hear

1041
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,880
it is now out there. And from one Metal Titan

1042
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,239
to another, Angus MK six with Angus MUK six and

1043
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,960
the All Seeing Astral Eye, the former Glory Hammer sing

1044
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,760
who for some reason is now a couple of albums

1045
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:06,239
deep into Still doing the Glory and the character on

1046
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,960
his own. But there you go into emo and alternative

1047
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,840
rock kind of circles. First, we have Sweet Pill with

1048
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:15,079
Still There's a Glow, Sam. This is a band that

1049
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:18,000
you had mentioned, So what's the deal with Sweet Pill?

1050
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 3: They're one of the ones I've not matching them with myself,

1051
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,239
But there's a lot of buzz around them in the

1052
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,519
kind of like emo or if you like, like the Poor

1053
00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:26,719
Kids album from last year.

1054
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 2: They're in that kind of like vein of like emo stuff.

1055
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: They've played Outbreak, they kind of and them that have

1056
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:34,400
popped up a fair bit in that sort of thing.

1057
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,000
So if you're into a lot of the kind of

1058
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,079
more nemo stuff Ben Quad Arms Length, those sort of

1059
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:41,400
bands like Sweet Pill are one of the more buzzy

1060
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:42,480
ones of that sort of scene.

1061
00:47:42,559 --> 00:47:44,559
Speaker 1: Yes, And then also from that kind of side of

1062
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:47,239
the TNM spectrum, we have Shoreline with an arabat today

1063
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,639
called is this the low point of the Moment. After

1064
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,480
then there is Unity t X, who are a band who

1065
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:53,920
were you know, you might remember we featured them something

1066
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,440
like a long long time ago, but they are kind

1067
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,960
of modern you know, new metally inflected rap metal if

1068
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,920
you like X somewhere in between. This was when I

1069
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,920
was excited to see on the schedule Gong The returning

1070
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,960
is psychedelic you progue overlords. Gong are back with either know,

1071
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:15,800
probably the Air nine hundredth album. It's called Bright Spirit.

1072
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:19,159
Speaker 3: Like Gong are a band I did not know about

1073
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,119
a year ago, and now I can't stop seeing them

1074
00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:23,400
pop up, and I blame Elia.

1075
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 2: I blame Ellia. This is all Elliot's fault.

1076
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: I hope that there are gnomes in teapots involved in

1077
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:32,840
this particular record. Into the extreme metal underground. Monstrosity a

1078
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,880
long running death metal band. They're primarily known because they

1079
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,360
were Corpse Grinder's band before he joined Cannibal Corpse. I've

1080
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,920
not really caught up with like all their modern stuff

1081
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,280
since Corpse Grinder was not in Monstrosity really, but Monstrosity

1082
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,559
is still still around, putting out record screened from beneath

1083
00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:50,079
the surface. Into the grindcoret underwell, there's the band No

1084
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,960
Mass with No Peace in the UK Grimy, I mean

1085
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,480
the abbotitle here will tell you what it is. It's

1086
00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:59,440
the band Wolf Bastard. The album is called Satanic Scumpunks,

1087
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,119
and that's the vibe really. Then there is a band

1088
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:05,719
called Transylvania, and of course you can imagine what their

1089
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,199
sort of rough themes and identity are as well from

1090
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:10,719
the black metal world, with a record called Magic Posthumor,

1091
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,800
and then a couple of EPs. First there is the

1092
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,920
long running Weedish kind of you know, retro classic rock

1093
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,440
band if you will, Witchcraft, really seminal band in that

1094
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,440
scene in terms of like you know, helping sort of

1095
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,639
kickstart that whole wave in the naughties in the first place.

1096
00:49:24,639 --> 00:49:26,000
But they've got a new EP out there. It's called

1097
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,760
a Sinner's Child. And then there is of course the

1098
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,440
Eternal Champion EP that we mentioned earlier, Friend of War,

1099
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,960
which is very very interesting. We recommend you check out.

1100
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:35,639
So thanks very much for being with us. We will

1101
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:38,079
be back next week. As said, we will also have

1102
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:41,400
our TM does Horror, our Most Rainy Wanted date out

1103
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,840
next week on the Patreon. Right now, there is god

1104
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,000
so many hours of nineteen ninety seven recommendations for you,

1105
00:49:48,199 --> 00:49:50,000
and as I said, there will be you know, other

1106
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:53,559
specials to come in the pipeline after that. And you know,

1107
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:55,679
I said in a couple of weeks time, maybe we'll

1108
00:49:55,679 --> 00:49:58,760
be back here again with reviews for March, where we'll

1109
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:01,280
be talking about that Lamb of God record, amongst many

1110
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,079
many other records that will be coming out. Let's talk

1111
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:05,039
about some of those next week as well here on Hyperblast.

1112
00:50:05,079 --> 00:50:06,559
So cheers everybody, Bye bye,