Speaker 1: It's night Sime with Dany. I'm telling you easy Boston Radio.
Speaker 2: Pal Griffith, thank you very much. By the way, if
Speaker 2: I could just take a moment here that tomorrow night
Speaker 2: at nine o'clock, we'll be talking with Massachusetts State Senator
Speaker 2: Nick Collins about the controversy over Boston's tax rate and
Speaker 2: the fight that he has been involved in with the
Speaker 2: WU administration. And Nick will try to break it down
Speaker 2: for us so we can better understand what is at
Speaker 2: stake and that dust up between the mayor mayor of
Speaker 2: WU and State Senator Nick Collins. Collins had won this
Speaker 2: fight and it's one that frankly, I need to understand
Speaker 2: a little bit better. Talk with Nick Collins today, and
Speaker 2: we will have him on tomorrow night at nine o'clock.
Speaker 2: Then at ten o'clock that I'm going to be talking
Speaker 2: with Robert Charles. We had him as a guest a
Speaker 2: few weeks ago. Very interesting background in terms of public service.
Speaker 2: He's a fellow, grew up in the state of Maine,
Speaker 2: lives now in Maine in retirement. Has written a book
Speaker 2: called Cherish America, and I think it's something particularly in
Speaker 2: view of what transpired early this morning in New Orleans.
Speaker 2: We all should cherish America and maybe this will set
Speaker 2: the tone for twenty twenty five here on nightside. So
Speaker 2: those are two guests coming up tomorrow night, and I
Speaker 2: hope you will join us and talk to either of them.
Speaker 2: In the meantime, we are talking about the terror attack,
Speaker 2: clearly an ISIS motivated attack. At this point, I know
Speaker 2: that we need to wait until all the information is in.
Speaker 2: We don't know if this individual was a lone wolf,
Speaker 2: although frankly, at this point it would seem that he
Speaker 2: very well may have. Although it's impossible to think that
Speaker 2: in this country, the way in which we're all connected,
Speaker 2: that the authorities cannot again with respect to the Constitution,
Speaker 2: with all due respect to the Constitution and to privacy rights,
Speaker 2: if people are making frequent trips to ISIS websites, unless
Speaker 2: they're a college professor or a student who's doing a
Speaker 2: thesis on it, or an intelligence agent, what are they
Speaker 2: doing there? Just as if there's people making frequent trips
Speaker 2: to I don't even know if there are sites for
Speaker 2: the KKK or whatever. I do believe that that is
Speaker 2: a legitimate law enforcement activity. And it again, if you
Speaker 2: want to go and check out a public website. I
Speaker 2: think that you surrender some of your constitutional privacy rights.
Speaker 2: I know my friends in the ACL you will disagree.
Speaker 2: Maybe my good friend Harvey's Silverglate might disagree. But I
Speaker 2: think we have reached a point in time where it's
Speaker 2: almost predictable. It's almost predictable. Back to the call as
Speaker 2: we go, Let's go to Sandra down in Carver. Sandra,
Speaker 2: welcome back to night Side, your first call of the year.
Speaker 2: How are you, Sandra?
Speaker 3: Good? How are you? I'm glad you're feeling better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you have to feel better after what
Speaker 2: I went through, and we'll talk about that maybe later on,
Speaker 2: if not tonight, tomorrow night. Go right ahead. How are
Speaker 2: I hope you have been spared? Whatever this was that
Speaker 2: I dealt with in the last few.
Speaker 3: Days, Well, I had w b Z on all day,
Speaker 3: so I've been listening to it. Yeah, you know. And
Speaker 3: as far as your cold, yeah, there has been a
Speaker 3: very bad respiratory cold going around with a lot of
Speaker 3: chess issues.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you. Yeah, believe me, I can speak
Speaker 2: with firsthand knowledge. So but we'll get to that later.
Speaker 2: Talk to me. Talk to me about New Orleans. What's your.
Speaker 3: A lot of people have said, you know what, a
Speaker 3: lot of stuff. But I just want to remark that
Speaker 3: you had said that he lived in a shabby trailer
Speaker 3: park with goats and animals, and I just want to
Speaker 3: point out that he is one of our veterans and
Speaker 3: that's not too acceptable if he can't afford any place
Speaker 3: to live. However, that's not the main thing. A lot
Speaker 3: of veterans are coming back very disillusioned. But he also
Speaker 3: has a Mid Eastern name. Even though he was born here.
Speaker 3: You don't know what exactly you know his family is like,
Speaker 3: or what they converse about, and whether that had something
Speaker 3: to do with it. I don't know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's early. Let's just agree that it's early in
Speaker 2: terms of what his status is as a veteran. Obviously
Speaker 2: we have to recognize it. Apparently he was deployed to
Speaker 2: Afghanistan for at least one year. I think it was
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine to twenty ten. But there are
Speaker 2: a lot of veterans who come back and find themselves
Speaker 2: in difficult circumstances. I think that obviously, you know veterans
Speaker 2: who come back and find themselves dealing with alcohol issues
Speaker 2: or drug issues. There should be a plethora of programs
Speaker 2: available for veterans who find themselves in that situation. There
Speaker 2: should be no homeless veterans. This guy, apparently, as of
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, had left the military and had started
Speaker 2: some sort of a real estate company in Houston, Texas.
Speaker 2: You can see it on the internet. It's pretty available,
Speaker 2: and apparently didn't do well with that and went through
Speaker 2: a couple of bad divorces and found himself in a
Speaker 2: situation of bankruptcy and was living in pretty squalid conditions.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the Veterans Administration can do for
Speaker 2: those sort of maladies. I don't think they can turn
Speaker 2: around and say to uh, you know, veterans who are bankrupt, look,
Speaker 2: come on in and we're going to set you up
Speaker 2: in a successful business. I know. And that's separated apart
Speaker 2: from what this guy did last night.
Speaker 3: I mean, right, totally right. I'm not I'm not saying
Speaker 3: that that's acceptable. But there's been a bit of rhetoric
Speaker 3: lately against their allies and people who are listening to
Speaker 3: this and that, you know, you don't know who, you know,
Speaker 3: what makes people a trigger?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 3: I know some Canadians believe that Trump is in with Pewton.
Speaker 3: There are some that have that feeling, and I've talked
Speaker 3: to some of them, so I know that that's what
Speaker 3: they're feeling and.
Speaker 2: Connect how do you how do you connect that to
Speaker 2: this self?
Speaker 3: Because it riles people up. There are people getting riled
Speaker 3: up by it, you know, so that's all.
Speaker 2: You people can get. People have a right to get
Speaker 2: riled up. We get riled up about a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2: But what I'm suggesting is if this guy was radicalized
Speaker 2: to the point that he's a supporter of ISIS. I mean,
Speaker 2: as someone who's in the military above all should know
Speaker 2: that ISIS was the group that was beheading journalists and
Speaker 2: people with whom they disagree. That's a nasty organization. You know,
Speaker 2: We're not talking about the Knights of Columbus here. We're
Speaker 2: talking about ISIS.
Speaker 3: And I just want to share this too. One of
Speaker 3: your callers said they never hear anything like this in
Speaker 3: China or Russia. Well, China and Russia gets rid of
Speaker 3: their enemies. They don't like anybody to disagree.
Speaker 2: With no, and no one wants to live in China.
Speaker 2: In this country, I guess there are some people who
Speaker 2: do decide to go live in those countries which people
Speaker 2: have a right to. But look, that's not what I want.
Speaker 2: But my question that I raised earlier is do you
Speaker 2: agree with me that people who are going to these
Speaker 2: isis sites are really the same as people who are
Speaker 2: going to kitty porn sites.
Speaker 3: Mean, I believe that they're extremely dangerous. And I think
Speaker 3: the Internet, yeah, it's a nice thing to have. But
Speaker 3: I don't even have a computer. I'm talking on a
Speaker 3: land phone. I just understand that.
Speaker 2: But my question to you is this, if if somebody
Speaker 2: is attracted to kitty porn sites, okay, or if they're
Speaker 2: attracted to isis sites, something's cooking there. That's not good
Speaker 2: in my opinion. Right if it's some social scientist who
Speaker 2: is trying to figure out, you know, the problems with
Speaker 2: you know, kitty porn, that's a different story. But someone's
Speaker 2: going there for their own entertainment or edification, or someone's
Speaker 2: going to isis sites for their own edification, their own
Speaker 2: their education. I think that they have they have put
Speaker 2: up red flags, and those red flags need to be monitored.
Speaker 2: Right with that totally, you know, And that's all I'm
Speaker 2: trying to say. What can we what can we do
Speaker 2: from this? We can't bring back the dead people. They're gone.
Speaker 2: We can't bring back this guy and find out what
Speaker 2: really was going on in his head. He's dead, right,
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to come up with some sort of
Speaker 2: a proposal. Now, my again, my my, my friends in
Speaker 2: the American Civil Liberties Union and even my real friend
Speaker 2: Harvey Silverglate would probably agree, would disagree with me, But
Speaker 2: I think that, you know, we could draw some lines.
Speaker 2: I mean, people will say, well, you hot, where do
Speaker 2: you draw a line. I'll draw a line on kiddie
Speaker 2: porn and on at isis sites.
Speaker 3: Right. I agree with that because you do have to
Speaker 3: protect the country and this obviously this guy slipped through
Speaker 3: the cracks, and you know, you have to protect the country.
Speaker 3: And I used to donate to the ACLU, small donations.
Speaker 3: I don't anymore ever since they tried to take down
Speaker 3: across in Middleborough.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's that's more important to them than than
Speaker 2: And they would defend the rights of somebody to go
Speaker 2: to kitty porn sites, and they would say, well, you know,
Speaker 2: just because they go to kitty porn sites, that doesn't
Speaker 2: mean that they're, uh, they're going to assault children. Well,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean that's kind of the next step
Speaker 2: in my opinion, you know. But hey, if any of
Speaker 2: my a cl you friends want to call tonight and
Speaker 2: disagree with me, that's fine. Sandra, Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for Collin. It's always great to hear your voice.
Speaker 3: Thank you, and have a good night, bye bye, and.
Speaker 2: A happy New Year to you and yours.
Speaker 3: Thanks Andra, Oh, thank you you too.
Speaker 2: But a break. I got Shane and Bob and Boston
Speaker 2: got one line at six one, seven thirty, and I
Speaker 2: got one line. It's I got two lines at six
Speaker 2: one seven nine thirty. I think this is an important topic.
Speaker 2: Not what I expected to do this morning when I
Speaker 2: woke up, not even what I expected to do in
Speaker 2: the middle of the day as we plotted the program tonight.
Speaker 2: But I think it's it's something that needs to be
Speaker 2: talked about. And I think that I assume the government
Speaker 2: has to be monitoring the ISIS radical sites. I would hope,
Speaker 2: I would hope, But how does this guy never get
Speaker 2: on the radar? Fifteen Americans are dead tonight for making
Speaker 2: the mistake of being on Bourbon Street at three o'clock
Speaker 2: in the morning celebrating New Year's Eve. Being back on nightside,
Speaker 2: right after this.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: Nightside Studios on WITBZ the news radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the phones, Let's go to Shane and Boston. Shane,
Speaker 2: appreciate your patience. You are now next on Nightside. Welcome Shane,
Speaker 2: Happy New Year.
Speaker 3: How are you, my Dan?
Speaker 5: I was hoping I might be able to kind of
Speaker 5: pivot the conversation towards the state of mental health in
Speaker 5: this country, particularly from my perspective as an insider.
Speaker 2: By the way, can I get you to speak directly
Speaker 2: into your mouthpiece because you're you're sounding like you're a
Speaker 2: little off your mouth piece.
Speaker 5: I'm commuting. I'm commuting at the moment, So I apologize.
Speaker 5: I've been uh and I say this with no you know,
Speaker 5: Joy a rising star in the arena homelessness, working in
Speaker 5: a shelters and their homes and whatnot in the last
Speaker 5: several years, and I've seen the kind of care that
Speaker 5: folks that have, whether it's psychiatric or behavioral issues are
Speaker 5: at least at least within Massachusetts. I'm not speaking across
Speaker 5: the entire the US, just within the out Boston metro right.
Speaker 5: And my biggest concern, and this has come up two
Speaker 5: uh you know, the folly of clients as well as
Speaker 5: uh myself getting injured is we have a large workforce
Speaker 5: of mental health professionalists that don't communicate on a saying
Speaker 5: the first native tongue language as their clients. So if
Speaker 5: their client is off baseline and making you know, threats,
Speaker 5: or perhaps speaking in a foreign tongue like perhaps they
Speaker 5: typically speak English and all of a sudden they're speaking,
Speaker 5: you know, Arabic phrases.
Speaker 2: So how do you how do you relate that? How
Speaker 2: do you, Shane, how do you relate your experiences dealing
Speaker 2: with mental health to this situation in the way I.
Speaker 5: Feel horrible for the families that have to, you know,
Speaker 5: wake up today and you know, here are the worst
Speaker 5: news in the world. But I also, you know, my
Speaker 5: heart goes out to any suffering veteran who whose mind
Speaker 5: isn't in the right place. And I want to see
Speaker 5: people get the best mental health care possible in this country.
Speaker 5: And I was curious what your take was on how
Speaker 5: is it possible to integrate people who are not from
Speaker 5: this country trying to enter the field and being the
Speaker 5: majority workforce dealing with well find.
Speaker 2: The connection Shane that I'm having trouble with is this
Speaker 2: guy who did this in New Orleans is a forty
Speaker 2: two year old American citizen, I believe born in Texas.
Speaker 5: So talking about the people that would be looking after
Speaker 5: him in a potential psych hospital and whether or not
Speaker 5: he's getting you know, adequate care or whether he's just
Speaker 5: getting kind.
Speaker 2: Of what I'm saying is what I'm saying is he's
Speaker 2: he happens to have an Arabic name, but but he's
Speaker 2: probably as American as apple pie. You know, been in
Speaker 2: the military for ten years.
Speaker 5: Perfect English. I'm thinking if he had, then he probably
Speaker 5: speaks perfect English.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he's saying us, boy, if he.
Speaker 5: Lived in Massachusetts, there's a good chance that he was
Speaker 5: to enter facility to you know, maybe get his head
Speaker 5: kind of screwed on straight. He wouldn't be able to
Speaker 5: speak to anyone that could relate to him on a
Speaker 5: you know level where they could communicate as if you know, Well,
Speaker 5: what should I'm trying to get at was that if
Speaker 5: this if this guy was somebody who had just moved
Speaker 5: here and had had no English faculty or facility, I'm
Speaker 5: just this, this is the extreme.
Speaker 2: This is not somebody who is who's gone through through
Speaker 2: a bad experience and is not doing well. This guy
Speaker 2: has has after having served I think it was about
Speaker 2: twelve years in the military, has come out and they
Speaker 2: mowed down innocent Americans with an ISIS flag flying off
Speaker 2: the back of his truck.
Speaker 5: Right, And we're all products of our environment. I'm sure
Speaker 5: this individual has PTSD on top of, you know, underlying
Speaker 5: a latent mental health issues that I don't know how
Speaker 5: you can make that.
Speaker 2: Well. Look, there's a lot of people who have PTSD,
Speaker 2: but they're not running down And first of all, there's
Speaker 2: no suggestion of that. Go look at some of the videos.
Speaker 2: He was a He had a real estate company that
Speaker 2: he found that he sounds like, you know, your real
Speaker 2: estate agent who might live next door to you. My question,
Speaker 2: here's the question I'm trying to get at, Shane, is
Speaker 2: there are people out there who are being radicalized, not
Speaker 2: you or not me, but are going to dark web sites.
Speaker 2: On the dark web ISIS sits, and there's bad sites
Speaker 2: of all different points of view. I think that once
Speaker 2: people find themselves frequenting whether it's a kiddy porn site,
Speaker 2: an ISIS site, or some sort of white racist, white
Speaker 2: supremacist site, that's a red flag and we got to
Speaker 2: start talking to those people and saying, what are you
Speaker 2: doing on these sites? You know, we're monitoring what you're doing,
Speaker 2: and we're keeping an eye on you. This guy apparently
Speaker 2: felt he could do whatever he wanted, including killing fifteen
Speaker 2: people on Bourbon Street last night. I don't think it's
Speaker 2: a communication problem. And I think the point you're making
Speaker 2: in another context might be perfectly make perfect sense, but
Speaker 2: it doesn't work for this this particular program here. Do
Speaker 2: we need more people helping people? Yeah, absolutely, we're not
Speaker 2: going to disagree with that.
Speaker 5: That's what I was getting at is what if this
Speaker 5: individual had, you know, tried to reach out for help
Speaker 5: and given the given the atmosphere and the climate that
Speaker 5: I've seen in Massachusetts, they would more or less be
Speaker 5: stuck getting pleasantries, and they.
Speaker 2: Would I don't think that someone who's going I don't
Speaker 2: think if I'm going to an ISIS site and I'm
Speaker 2: having thoughts about renting the truck and driving it down
Speaker 2: the street and killing as mary as many Americans as
Speaker 2: I can as possible. I don't think if I go
Speaker 2: to a mental health site that I'm going to probably
Speaker 2: say that. But even if I do, I don't know
Speaker 2: what you do with a person under those circumstances. I think,
Speaker 2: if anything, that.
Speaker 5: I had a client threatened to bring a gun into
Speaker 5: work less than a month ago. We didn't give him
Speaker 5: his file and he was born in this country.
Speaker 2: So what did you do with him? What did you
Speaker 2: do with him?
Speaker 5: We are monitoring him as closely as possible, we are.
Speaker 2: You know, did you report? Did you did you report
Speaker 2: to his thought to his work site that they should
Speaker 2: be concerned.
Speaker 5: So this is a homeless individual, then, oh.
Speaker 2: So what was So he's homeless, but he's going to
Speaker 2: bring a gun into his work site.
Speaker 5: He's going to bring a gun into a shelter that
Speaker 5: he lives in.
Speaker 2: Did you tell the shelter that this guy had told
Speaker 2: you that he was bringing he might he was having
Speaker 2: thoughts about bringing a gun into into the shelter.
Speaker 5: It's it's it's me that would be getting shot at, right. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, well that's great. So you did the right thing
Speaker 2: and hopefully the guy can get some help. I'm up
Speaker 2: on my ten thirty news break Chaine. So I got
Speaker 2: to let you go. Thank you for your call. Please,
Speaker 2: this is your first time calling my show.
Speaker 4: No it's not.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well come back more often. Okay, thank you very much,
Speaker 2: appreciate you your effort. Here comes the news coming back
Speaker 2: right after.
Speaker 1: That night Side Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.
Speaker 2: Back to the phones we go. Bob is in Boston. Bob, welcome,
Speaker 2: next to a nightside go right hit Bob.
Speaker 4: Yes, good evening, Dan. I feel bad that I haven't
Speaker 4: spoken to you in a couple of years. How have
Speaker 4: you been.
Speaker 2: I've been doing great. I hope you've been doing well too.
Speaker 2: I had a little bit of a I don't know
Speaker 2: what it was, bronchitis or something for a couple of weeks,
Speaker 2: but I timed it so I had that on my vacation.
Speaker 2: So I'm all set, go right ahead.
Speaker 4: I really like you, and I think you're a nice gentleman,
Speaker 4: and I want to wish you and everybody at WBC
Speaker 4: Radium ten thirty a very, very happy and healthy new year.
Speaker 4: But focus on the topic. It scared the hell out
Speaker 4: of me when I saw on TV. And when Donald
Speaker 4: Trump gets reelected on January twentieth, he needs to really
Speaker 4: buckle down and think about this and spend more money
Speaker 4: on public safety with the FBI and local officials. Okay,
Speaker 4: we need to keep America safe. And the problem is
Speaker 4: is that there was so many terrorists of people that
Speaker 4: have mental health problems and they're not like the other
Speaker 4: Juman said, they're not getting professional help mental health and
Speaker 4: mental illnesses and disorder. It's the illness of the brain
Speaker 4: and there's not enough professional help that people can get.
Speaker 4: I personally have gotten a lot of help in this
Speaker 4: common wealth. I think Governor Mary Heally is an outstanding,
Speaker 4: remarkable woman. She's joined the best she can to keep
Speaker 4: by citizens of our commonwealth safe and sound. I think
Speaker 4: if when the president gets re elected, he really needs
Speaker 4: to things serious out having a chief Executive of public
Speaker 4: safety and keep this KATCHI safe so people like this
Speaker 4: and things like this don't happen again.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very he has, as you know. I think what
Speaker 2: you mean is when he is reinaugurated. He has already
Speaker 2: been reelected. I'll reinaugurated on January twentieth, and I think
Speaker 2: that that he's going to take some steps which will
Speaker 2: hopefully tighten things up a little bit. Bob. Simple as
Speaker 2: simple as that, Bobby, sound great, You got don't be
Speaker 2: a stranger.
Speaker 4: Come back and I've been to recovery away from alcohol
Speaker 4: and drugs for two years, almost two years. And there
Speaker 4: was a big write up about a week or so
Speaker 4: ago about addiction and the Bosston Globe. And I just
Speaker 4: want to say to you, Dan, I'm an animal lover
Speaker 4: like you do you happen to have another dog or no?
Speaker 2: No, but I get to babysit for both of my kids,
Speaker 2: who are both married. They have dogs. My daughter has
Speaker 2: a beautiful Corgi named Mustard, and I'm babysitting this week
Speaker 2: for really the Wonder Dogs was a shorty that's great.
Speaker 4: I just want to say one last thing and I'll
Speaker 4: let you go. My mother. I lost my mother almost
Speaker 4: five years ago, and I'll tell you, damn, when you
Speaker 4: lose your mother, it's like losing your best friend. And
Speaker 4: I just want to say, you know, I personally have
Speaker 4: got a lot of professional help from people are meant
Speaker 4: to help. I want to quickly ask you why didn't
Speaker 4: excover William were out close someway the state mental hospital
Speaker 4: stat of the Commonwealth was just to save the state
Speaker 4: money or.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of those hospitals actually were also
Speaker 2: closed by Mike Doucacas. There was a de institutional.
Speaker 4: Mike do concress, I think Governor Mark Heely is joined
Speaker 4: a great job, and let's keep this Commonwealth America safe
Speaker 4: and look out for each other. And I think everybody
Speaker 4: out there they're gonna walk a walk on the streets.
Speaker 4: They should walk in groups and say something that somebody
Speaker 4: if something like this is going to happen.
Speaker 2: And we get people to react to what you have
Speaker 2: to say. Best of luck, congratulations on your recovery.
Speaker 4: All right, you have a good.
Speaker 2: Let me go to gym in Kansas City. Gym in
Speaker 2: Kansas City. Next on nightside, Jim Groight.
Speaker 6: Ahead, Dan, I think for taking my call.
Speaker 2: Right back at you.
Speaker 6: Happy new Year, Thank you, Happy New Year. How are you.
Speaker 2: Feel a little better than I did a couple of
Speaker 2: weeks ago. What's on your mind tonight?
Speaker 6: Jim? Three things? Well, first of all, like even saying
Speaker 6: I would be very surprised that if they did an
Speaker 6: autopsy on this guy, that they don't find massive amounts
Speaker 6: of tetrahydro cannabinall in his blood and fatty tissues marijuana.
Speaker 6: For those of you from your wenda.
Speaker 2: Well there's no suggestion of that. But if they do,
Speaker 2: hopefully we'll they'll make it public.
Speaker 6: Right there never is They never say it. But I
Speaker 6: will say over and over. I've said it many times,
Speaker 6: so again and again. That stuff is. They don't make
Speaker 6: that stuff for kids. It's serious stuff. So you know,
Speaker 6: you know, I'd be very surprised that they don't find
Speaker 6: a lot of that. And the other thing is he
Speaker 6: came across the border. Well, whether he's illegal or illegal,
Speaker 6: he did across the border.
Speaker 2: Jim, Jim, what he didn't come across the border?
Speaker 6: You say he did not?
Speaker 2: No, he was born, he's an American citizen.
Speaker 6: But see you you see, you're not. I listened to
Speaker 6: w w L from New Orleans all day long. Gooday,
Speaker 6: and it's been since swept under the rug. But that truck,
Speaker 6: I don't know whether he was in it or not,
Speaker 6: but that truck just came across the border an Eagle Pass.
Speaker 2: Very jell me said, let me help you out on that. Okay.
Speaker 2: You know, you know me, Jim, I like I spend
Speaker 2: my day prepping okay myself is that there was some
Speaker 2: reports that that truck came across the border. I believe
Speaker 2: it was November sixteenth from Eating Pass, Texas. What I
Speaker 2: have found out tonight. Matter of fact, one of my
Speaker 2: callers informed me about something that I had never heard of.
Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of a website called Toro t
Speaker 2: u R?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And what does that what to do? As far as
Speaker 2: you understand.
Speaker 6: It, I never really did. I kind of thought it
Speaker 6: was like a mobile app, but it's it's just a
Speaker 6: way to It's kind of like a bed and breakfast
Speaker 6: only instead of renting somebody's house beyond their car.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, So therefore, what that what that means is
Speaker 2: that I don't know. I assume the FBI is going
Speaker 2: to look at the history of the truck, So there
Speaker 2: could have been somebody, Uh, this guy rented the truck
Speaker 2: that he destroyed in killing fifteen people. I assume I
Speaker 2: believe he rented it in Houston and he drove yesterday,
Speaker 2: rented it yesterday, and he drove to New Orleans yesterday. Now, well,
Speaker 2: it could have. But the point I'm trying to make, Jim,
Speaker 2: is that the truck could have been rented by other people,
Speaker 2: maybe somebody who decided to drive to Mexico. Let's see
Speaker 2: what they come up with. But I just on his
Speaker 2: on his status. He's an American citizen who served about
Speaker 2: twelve years in the US military and actually was deployed
Speaker 2: to Afghanistan from I guess most of two thousand and nine,
Speaker 2: two thousand and nine and into twenty ten. If anything,
Speaker 2: this case sounds to me more like the Nadal Hassan
Speaker 2: case out of Wood, Texas.
Speaker 6: Into one thing that came to mind, and you informed
Speaker 6: me that what's his namely not part in which I
Speaker 6: was kind of wondering about that, but here's there's my
Speaker 6: third thing, and you kind of touched on it. You said,
Speaker 6: let's see what they come up with. One of the
Speaker 6: things that I heard when I was listening on WWL
Speaker 6: all day today was the there's the chief of police
Speaker 6: or prosecutor somebody by the way with the w.
Speaker 2: W elis those in the audience. That's the New Orleans,
Speaker 2: very fine New Orleans radio station.
Speaker 6: Very go ahead, Yeah, they're okay. Well, anyway, with the guy,
Speaker 6: I don't know what he would but he kept saying,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep my mouth set for a while, but
Speaker 6: he said, if they don't come out with all the
Speaker 6: details pretty soon, I'll spill the beans. So he must
Speaker 6: know a lot about what's going on, what went on.
Speaker 2: I have no idea who that was. I did see
Speaker 2: the police superintendent, who I believe happens to be a woman.
Speaker 2: She did admit that they that they may have made
Speaker 2: the mistake of not restoring what they call it's called
Speaker 2: Ballard's b O L A r d s. Those are
Speaker 2: the steel posts or cement posts that are are that
Speaker 2: block buildings and block streets, and apparently they had removed
Speaker 2: some of those, and all they had was a police
Speaker 2: car parked at the intersection of Canal and Bourbon Street.
Speaker 2: And when this guy came down Canal Street, he just
Speaker 2: took a ride on a Bourbon Street, swung around the
Speaker 2: police car, went up over the sidewalk and and mowed
Speaker 2: down fifteen people. So there was a little bit of
Speaker 2: negligence on behalf. I think of the authorities in New
Speaker 2: Orleans that might have prevented this.
Speaker 6: This is a little bit long here, but for my break.
Speaker 6: But they said something about these orange orange things. I
Speaker 6: think they're probably talking about orange jersey plastic jersey barriers. Well,
Speaker 6: what happens a lot of times if they just put
Speaker 6: those jersey barriers out there, they don't fill them up.
Speaker 6: You got to fill them things up with either water
Speaker 6: or sand or they're just like having kind of like
Speaker 6: a rocking chair there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate your points. Some of them were really
Speaker 2: good and some of them I hope we can agree
Speaker 2: that I was able to give you a little information
Speaker 2: that maybe you didn't have. Appreciate your call. Thank you much.
Speaker 6: Stay off the weed, Dan, I'm not a weed guy.
Speaker 2: I think you know that. Thanks very much, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Tim and Wilburn. Tim, welcome next on nightside.
Speaker 7: I granted him from all night. That's the most horrendous
Speaker 7: thing I think I ever heard of.
Speaker 2: Well, it's pretty horrendous, but I don't know that it's
Speaker 2: as horrendous as nine to eleven. To be honest with you. You're
Speaker 2: right in terms of the scale the magnitude. But it's
Speaker 2: a terrorist attack. Those people twenty four hours ago were
Speaker 2: alive just like you and I are, Tim, and now
Speaker 2: they're no longer with us. Sad.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're dead on time too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Still, I have my night side mug here with a
Speaker 7: cup of coffee.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, that'll keep you awake, hey, Tim, Happy
Speaker 2: New Year to you and your family. Okay, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for checking in. Always good to hear your voice.
Speaker 2: Look forward to hearing from you many times throughout the year. Okay,
Speaker 2: and at some point we will have a cup of
Speaker 2: coffee together.
Speaker 7: That would be great.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Happy New Year, Tim, Thanks much, appreciate it.
Speaker 2: All right, we got a quick break coming up. I
Speaker 2: got a little bit of room for you at one
Speaker 2: line at six one seven, two five four ten thirty,
Speaker 2: and I got two lines at six one seven nine
Speaker 2: three one ten thirty. Uh. We have done nearly three
Speaker 2: hours on this. I'm likely to switch topics at eleven
Speaker 2: o'clock unless, uh, these lines fill up more quickly. Ron
Speaker 2: in Weymouth and Mark and allstin. You guys are all set.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you in pretty easily, and we have
Speaker 2: room for you if you want to dial in. You
Speaker 2: got the numbers. Dial away.
Speaker 1: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 1: night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 2: Let's keep rolling. They're gonna go to Ron and Weymouth
Speaker 2: Ron next on Nightsiger right ahead.
Speaker 8: Well, good evening, Ray and uh, I mean yeah, we know,
Speaker 8: good evening and uh and the happy New Year with
Speaker 8: a hell of a stat Huh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could call me Dan Ron, go right ahead.
Speaker 2: We're on first name.
Speaker 8: It something else going on most I don't know why
Speaker 8: I said that, No, prop No, no problem. Sane called
Speaker 8: in and a few others. They seem to write all
Speaker 8: the softwa as a medical, psychiatric excuse for an attack. Now,
Speaker 8: are you telling me that all the attacks in Israel
Speaker 8: that they had they write an office that they're just crazy.
Speaker 8: I believe it's something going on that we need to
Speaker 8: watch very closely, especially radicalize people who have had military
Speaker 8: training that did such a thing like this. And then
Speaker 8: all the information coming in from the FBI statement that
Speaker 8: I have in front of me, the official one today,
Speaker 8: it all concludes everything that you've been saying.
Speaker 2: And actually I had that statement as well. And the
Speaker 2: thing that is most interesting about that is, obviously the
Speaker 2: situation will always change. Let me just really quickly, says
Speaker 2: you have it. This was this statement, which basically stated
Speaker 2: the obvious. At approximately three point fifteen a Central Standard time,
Speaker 2: an individual drove a pickup truck into a crowd of
Speaker 2: people on Bourbon Street in New Orleans, killing at least
Speaker 2: ten of courses now up to fifteen, injuring dozens of others.
Speaker 2: After hitting the crowd, he exited the vehicle and fired
Speaker 2: upon local law enforcement. Law enforcement returned fire subject pronounced
Speaker 2: deceased at the scene to law enforcement officers injured transport
Speaker 2: at a hospital. Subject was identified as we've talked about, forty
Speaker 2: two year old shamsud Din Jabbar, US citizen from Texas,
Speaker 2: and it goes on the ISIS flag. It says weapons
Speaker 2: and potential ied were located in the subject's vehicle. Other
Speaker 2: potential IED's were also found located in the French quarter.
Speaker 2: That sounds to me like that might be dated information
Speaker 2: at this point, right, you know something that situation, well
Speaker 2: as that Davis cautioned us during the eight o'clock hour,
Speaker 2: will change in the next few days. There also apparently
Speaker 2: is an arrest made tonight in Houston. It said that
Speaker 2: heavily armed police were spotted detaining a man in Houston.
Speaker 2: Now again, I have no idea if this guy is related,
Speaker 2: but apparently he was detained near the home. Shirtless man
Speaker 2: surrenders outside Houston home of terrorist who mowed down Revelus
Speaker 2: in New Orleans report, So this could be some goofball.
Speaker 8: I see all, wasn't I see all the same stuff
Speaker 8: that you're saying, but I didn't want to intercede just
Speaker 8: briefly here. I believe it's the beginning phase leading up
Speaker 8: to more attacks and I think we're going to have
Speaker 8: to go back to a nationwide alert system just doesn't
Speaker 8: alert you know, police and security and alerts citizens also.
Speaker 8: And we had that one time way back. I guess
Speaker 8: that was after nine to eleven. I think we had
Speaker 8: something like that at an alert system. We need to
Speaker 8: get hav an alert system because I don't think people
Speaker 8: are understanding that the how bad it is. Oh it's
Speaker 8: just another attack. And I think we've we're letting down
Speaker 8: our God is what I'm trying to say. Uh, We've
Speaker 8: got it. We've got to change, and we can't be
Speaker 8: waiting all this time, uh for anything else to happen.
Speaker 8: It's it's got to change now. And I think, well, here's.
Speaker 2: Here's my here, here's my not a solution, because there's
Speaker 2: probably no solution to this. So I think we have
Speaker 2: to recognize that there are people amongst us. We live
Speaker 2: in a free society. There are people amongst us who
Speaker 2: are attracted to some pretty weird activities. And I basically
Speaker 2: am saying that if you're, uh, we we should be
Speaker 2: able to monitor ISIS sites and find out what Americans
Speaker 2: are frequenting those sites. And that's a red flag, just
Speaker 2: as if somebody's frequency frequenting a kiddy porn site, that
Speaker 2: should be a red flag. Now, you know, I don't
Speaker 2: see what's wrong with if someone is going to get
Speaker 2: on a public Internet site, I think that their right
Speaker 2: of absolute privacy UH is limited there. I think you
Speaker 2: know that that we have an obligation to do whatever
Speaker 2: we can to to find people who are either going
Speaker 2: to abuse children, who are going to be radicalized by ISIS,
Speaker 2: or join hate organizations. And I know that my friends
Speaker 2: in the a c L you are going to disagree,
Speaker 2: but I'm sick of of of the a c L
Speaker 2: you saying, oh, you can do whatever you want, but
Speaker 2: if you show a proclivity here spending a lot of
Speaker 2: time on an ISIS site, you got unless you're a
Speaker 2: college professor or or some sort of a researcher, I
Speaker 2: think you've got a problem. Just as if you spend
Speaker 2: a lot.
Speaker 6: Of time on do I do too. I do too, Dan,
Speaker 6: and Uh.
Speaker 8: I think that not only do we need justice, we
Speaker 8: need the beginning of swift justice. None of this hanging
Speaker 8: on with a lot of the legal debuts and all
Speaker 8: that let him stay in prison. We need to get
Speaker 8: going and show them that we mean business that we're
Speaker 8: not going to accept this. The American people want justice
Speaker 8: and they want swift justice. Maybe they we'll get that
Speaker 8: for the president President.
Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, it was interesting. It was
Speaker 2: a very quick case. Apparently there was an agreement reached
Speaker 2: with the guy who's the head of the head terrorist
Speaker 2: at Guantanamo, and they worked a deal where he would
Speaker 2: plead guilty and they would take the death penalty off
Speaker 2: the table. And apparently the Defense Secretary Secretary of Austin
Speaker 2: tried to overturn that decision.
Speaker 8: I heard.
Speaker 2: This to me was insane. Uh. He should have been
Speaker 2: up that decision. And a federal judge said no, the
Speaker 2: Defense Secretary waited too long uh to make his decision.
Speaker 2: And therefore, uh she Muhammad, the guy who was the
Speaker 2: mastermind of nine to eleven, we'll never see the death penalty.
Speaker 2: Thank you, judge. Wheover the hell you are? How about that?
Speaker 7: Huh?
Speaker 8: So that means we really don't we really don't have
Speaker 8: any deterrance no matter what they say. Uh. Oh, well,
Speaker 8: you know, if they're caught in the act of doing it.
Speaker 8: I mean that's like, don't you think, legally, pretty pretty
Speaker 8: pretty big good evidence right in the act of it.
Speaker 8: And for oeign countries, you think they wait around they.
Speaker 2: Have guy's been Dono for twenty years. Okay, he should
Speaker 2: have been taking care of a long time ago.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I like the other people.
Speaker 6: I like Ron.
Speaker 2: I got to get one more in here. We we
Speaker 2: went a long time on our topic.
Speaker 7: Here today we did.
Speaker 8: We should thank you?
Speaker 6: Sorry, should you call him?
Speaker 2: No problem, talk to you soon. Let me go to Mark.
Speaker 2: You knows, Mark going to wrap the hour for us.
Speaker 9: Go happy New Year.
Speaker 4: I get you.
Speaker 9: I actually used very little social media, just a little
Speaker 9: bit of LinkedIn, the ultra respectable uh social media that's
Speaker 9: devoted to career development.
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm on LinkedIn to Mark as a matter
Speaker 2: of fact.
Speaker 9: But I do think that it's possible to overdose on
Speaker 9: social media. Back I guess last may. I have a
Speaker 9: friend at synagogue who well was following the whole Israel
Speaker 9: Palestrini and Arab war, and yet got a bit overwrought, and.
Speaker 2: You know it took what happened to him? What happened?
Speaker 9: Oh, he's fine, he's fine now, but his wife, who's
Speaker 9: a social worker, had to say, watch it hunting.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, a lot of people spend spend too
Speaker 2: much time on social media. Absolutely, and if you but
Speaker 2: again to follow the Israeli you know, hajmas war right thing,
Speaker 2: But to hang out on ISIS sites and get radicalized,
Speaker 2: that's something quite different. And you know in terms of we, well,
Speaker 2: we see the result. We just see the result. Obviously,
Speaker 2: you know what the result was for fifteen people did Well.
Speaker 9: Isn't it possible to draw up a probable cause level
Speaker 9: case if somebody's doing too much of that stuff?
Speaker 2: Well, I think at a minimum, there should be some
Speaker 2: sort of awareness by you know, by authorities that somebody
Speaker 2: spending a lot of time on ISIS. I would go
Speaker 2: and interview that individual. We have a right to knock
Speaker 2: on the door and say, hey, I'd like to talk
Speaker 2: to you again. You're on a what is theoretically a
Speaker 2: public website, okay, you know, and and I think that
Speaker 2: you have surrendered some of your personal your your privacy
Speaker 2: rights when you're on a website that is uh that
Speaker 2: is as dangerous as UH as isis ISIS website or
Speaker 2: a kiddie porn website. I think you got to look
Speaker 2: at them the same way.
Speaker 9: In my opinion, Well, doesn't the FBI actually catch people
Speaker 9: sometimes using the.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah they could. Yeah, sure, yeah, they can sort
Speaker 2: of put people out there and sometimes they think they're
Speaker 2: talking to an eleven year old girl or a ten
Speaker 2: year old boy, and when they show up for the
Speaker 2: meeting with them, Hello, you're talking with FBI agents. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's that's that's conceivable as well. So I don't know. Hey, Mark,
Speaker 2: I'm up at my eleven o'clock news. We gotta let
Speaker 2: you run, my friend, Okay, we'll talk. So thanks, Happy
Speaker 2: New Year to you and yours.
Speaker 9: Thanks, thanks walking up.
Speaker 2: Here comes the eleven. We'll be back right after the eleven,
Speaker 2: And I think I'm going to change topics at eleven,
Speaker 2: so we'll see if I get something that might interest
Speaker 2: you even more than this terrorism attack. It's a tough
Speaker 2: way to start the year, but we're going to talk
Speaker 2: about a little lighter topic at eleven. Coming back on
Speaker 2: Night Side,