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<v Speaker 1>It's night Sime with Dany. I'm telling you easy Boston Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Pal Griffith, thank you very much. By the way, if

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<v Speaker 2>I could just take a moment here that tomorrow night

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<v Speaker 2>at nine o'clock, we'll be talking with Massachusetts State Senator

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<v Speaker 2>Nick Collins about the controversy over Boston's tax rate and

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<v Speaker 2>the fight that he has been involved in with the

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<v Speaker 2>WU administration. And Nick will try to break it down

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<v Speaker 2>for us so we can better understand what is at

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<v Speaker 2>stake and that dust up between the mayor mayor of

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<v Speaker 2>WU and State Senator Nick Collins. Collins had won this

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<v Speaker 2>fight and it's one that frankly, I need to understand

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit better. Talk with Nick Collins today, and

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<v Speaker 2>we will have him on tomorrow night at nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 2>Then at ten o'clock that I'm going to be talking

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<v Speaker 2>with Robert Charles. We had him as a guest a

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<v Speaker 2>few weeks ago. Very interesting background in terms of public service.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a fellow, grew up in the state of Maine,

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<v Speaker 2>lives now in Maine in retirement. Has written a book

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<v Speaker 2>called Cherish America, and I think it's something particularly in

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<v Speaker 2>view of what transpired early this morning in New Orleans.

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<v Speaker 2>We all should cherish America and maybe this will set

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<v Speaker 2>the tone for twenty twenty five here on nightside. So

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<v Speaker 2>those are two guests coming up tomorrow night, and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope you will join us and talk to either of them.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, we are talking about the terror attack,

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<v Speaker 2>clearly an ISIS motivated attack. At this point, I know

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<v Speaker 2>that we need to wait until all the information is in.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't know if this individual was a lone wolf,

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<v Speaker 2>although frankly, at this point it would seem that he

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<v Speaker 2>very well may have. Although it's impossible to think that

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<v Speaker 2>in this country, the way in which we're all connected,

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<v Speaker 2>that the authorities cannot again with respect to the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 2>with all due respect to the Constitution and to privacy rights,

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<v Speaker 2>if people are making frequent trips to ISIS websites, unless

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<v Speaker 2>they're a college professor or a student who's doing a

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<v Speaker 2>thesis on it, or an intelligence agent, what are they

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<v Speaker 2>doing there? Just as if there's people making frequent trips

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<v Speaker 2>to I don't even know if there are sites for

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<v Speaker 2>the KKK or whatever. I do believe that that is

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<v Speaker 2>a legitimate law enforcement activity. And it again, if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to go and check out a public website. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that you surrender some of your constitutional privacy rights.

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<v Speaker 2>I know my friends in the ACL you will disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe my good friend Harvey's Silverglate might disagree. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think we have reached a point in time where it's

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<v Speaker 2>almost predictable. It's almost predictable. Back to the call as

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<v Speaker 2>we go, Let's go to Sandra down in Carver. Sandra,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome back to night Side, your first call of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you, Sandra?

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<v Speaker 3>Good? How are you? I'm glad you're feeling better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll tell you have to feel better after what

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<v Speaker 2>I went through, and we'll talk about that maybe later on,

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<v Speaker 2>if not tonight, tomorrow night. Go right ahead. How are

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you have been spared? Whatever this was that

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<v Speaker 2>I dealt with in the last few.

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<v Speaker 3>Days, Well, I had w b Z on all day,

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<v Speaker 3>so I've been listening to it. Yeah, you know. And

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<v Speaker 3>as far as your cold, yeah, there has been a

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<v Speaker 3>very bad respiratory cold going around with a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>chess issues.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you. Yeah, believe me, I can speak

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<v Speaker 2>with firsthand knowledge. So but we'll get to that later.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to me. Talk to me about New Orleans. What's your.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of people have said, you know what, a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of stuff. But I just want to remark that

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<v Speaker 3>you had said that he lived in a shabby trailer

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<v Speaker 3>park with goats and animals, and I just want to

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<v Speaker 3>point out that he is one of our veterans and

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<v Speaker 3>that's not too acceptable if he can't afford any place

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<v Speaker 3>to live. However, that's not the main thing. A lot

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<v Speaker 3>of veterans are coming back very disillusioned. But he also

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<v Speaker 3>has a Mid Eastern name. Even though he was born here.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't know what exactly you know his family is like,

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<v Speaker 3>or what they converse about, and whether that had something

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<v Speaker 3>to do with it. I don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's early. Let's just agree that it's early in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of what his status is as a veteran. Obviously

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<v Speaker 2>we have to recognize it. Apparently he was deployed to

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<v Speaker 2>Afghanistan for at least one year. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine to twenty ten. But there are

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of veterans who come back and find themselves

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<v Speaker 2>in difficult circumstances. I think that obviously, you know veterans

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<v Speaker 2>who come back and find themselves dealing with alcohol issues

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<v Speaker 2>or drug issues. There should be a plethora of programs

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<v Speaker 2>available for veterans who find themselves in that situation. There

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<v Speaker 2>should be no homeless veterans. This guy, apparently, as of

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, had left the military and had started

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of a real estate company in Houston, Texas.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see it on the internet. It's pretty available,

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<v Speaker 2>and apparently didn't do well with that and went through

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of bad divorces and found himself in a

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<v Speaker 2>situation of bankruptcy and was living in pretty squalid conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the Veterans Administration can do for

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<v Speaker 2>those sort of maladies. I don't think they can turn

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<v Speaker 2>around and say to uh, you know, veterans who are bankrupt, look,

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<v Speaker 2>come on in and we're going to set you up

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<v Speaker 2>in a successful business. I know. And that's separated apart

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<v Speaker 2>from what this guy did last night.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, right, totally right. I'm not I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 3>that that's acceptable. But there's been a bit of rhetoric

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<v Speaker 3>lately against their allies and people who are listening to

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<v Speaker 3>this and that, you know, you don't know who, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what makes people a trigger?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I know some Canadians believe that Trump is in with Pewton.

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<v Speaker 3>There are some that have that feeling, and I've talked

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<v Speaker 3>to some of them, so I know that that's what

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<v Speaker 3>they're feeling and.

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<v Speaker 2>Connect how do you how do you connect that to

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<v Speaker 2>this self?

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<v Speaker 3>Because it riles people up. There are people getting riled

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<v Speaker 3>up by it, you know, so that's all.

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<v Speaker 2>You people can get. People have a right to get

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<v Speaker 2>riled up. We get riled up about a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I'm suggesting is if this guy was radicalized

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<v Speaker 2>to the point that he's a supporter of ISIS. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>as someone who's in the military above all should know

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<v Speaker 2>that ISIS was the group that was beheading journalists and

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<v Speaker 2>people with whom they disagree. That's a nasty organization. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>We're not talking about the Knights of Columbus here. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about ISIS.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just want to share this too. One of

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<v Speaker 3>your callers said they never hear anything like this in

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<v Speaker 3>China or Russia. Well, China and Russia gets rid of

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<v Speaker 3>their enemies. They don't like anybody to disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>With no, and no one wants to live in China.

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<v Speaker 2>In this country, I guess there are some people who

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<v Speaker 2>do decide to go live in those countries which people

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<v Speaker 2>have a right to. But look, that's not what I want.

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<v Speaker 2>But my question that I raised earlier is do you

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<v Speaker 2>agree with me that people who are going to these

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<v Speaker 2>isis sites are really the same as people who are

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<v Speaker 2>going to kitty porn sites.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, I believe that they're extremely dangerous. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>the Internet, yeah, it's a nice thing to have. But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even have a computer. I'm talking on a

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<v Speaker 2>But my question to you is this, if if somebody

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<v Speaker 2>is attracted to kitty porn sites, okay, or if they're

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<v Speaker 2>attracted to isis sites, something's cooking there. That's not good

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion. Right if it's some social scientist who

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<v Speaker 2>is trying to figure out, you know, the problems with

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<v Speaker 2>you know, kitty porn, that's a different story. But someone's

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<v Speaker 2>going there for their own entertainment or edification, or someone's

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<v Speaker 2>going to isis sites for their own edification, their own

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<v Speaker 2>their education. I think that they have they have put

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<v Speaker 2>up red flags, and those red flags need to be monitored.

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<v Speaker 2>Right with that totally, you know, And that's all I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say. What can we what can we do

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<v Speaker 2>from this? We can't bring back the dead people. They're gone.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't bring back this guy and find out what

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<v Speaker 2>really was going on in his head. He's dead, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just trying to come up with some sort of

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<v Speaker 2>a proposal. Now, my again, my my, my friends in

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<v Speaker 2>the American Civil Liberties Union and even my real friend

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<v Speaker 2>Harvey Silverglate would probably agree, would disagree with me, But

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<v Speaker 2>I think that, you know, we could draw some lines.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, people will say, well, you hot, where do

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<v Speaker 2>you draw a line. I'll draw a line on kiddie

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<v Speaker 2>porn and on at isis sites.

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<v Speaker 3>Right. I agree with that because you do have to

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<v Speaker 3>protect the country and this obviously this guy slipped through

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<v Speaker 3>the cracks, and you know, you have to protect the country.

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<v Speaker 3>And I used to donate to the ACLU, small donations.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't anymore ever since they tried to take down

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that's that's more important to them than than

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<v Speaker 2>And they would defend the rights of somebody to go

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<v Speaker 2>to kitty porn sites, and they would say, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just because they go to kitty porn sites, that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>mean that they're, uh, they're going to assault children. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean that's kind of the next step

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, you know. But hey, if any of

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<v Speaker 2>my a cl you friends want to call tonight and

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<v Speaker 2>disagree with me, that's fine. Sandra, Thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for Collin. It's always great to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, and have a good night, bye bye, and.

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<v Speaker 2>A happy New Year to you and yours.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Andra, Oh, thank you you too.

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<v Speaker 2>But a break. I got Shane and Bob and Boston

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<v Speaker 2>got one line at six one, seven thirty, and I

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<v Speaker 2>got one line. It's I got two lines at six

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<v Speaker 2>one seven nine thirty. I think this is an important topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Not what I expected to do this morning when I

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<v Speaker 2>woke up, not even what I expected to do in

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<v Speaker 2>the middle of the day as we plotted the program tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's it's something that needs to be

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<v Speaker 2>talked about. And I think that I assume the government

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<v Speaker 2>has to be monitoring the ISIS radical sites. I would hope,

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<v Speaker 2>I would hope, But how does this guy never get

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<v Speaker 2>on the radar? Fifteen Americans are dead tonight for making

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<v Speaker 2>the mistake of being on Bourbon Street at three o'clock

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning celebrating New Year's Eve. Being back on nightside,

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<v Speaker 2>right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Nightside Studios on WITBZ the news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones, Let's go to Shane and Boston. Shane,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate your patience. You are now next on Nightside. Welcome Shane,

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<v Speaker 2>Happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you, my Dan?

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<v Speaker 5>I was hoping I might be able to kind of

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<v Speaker 5>pivot the conversation towards the state of mental health in

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<v Speaker 5>this country, particularly from my perspective as an insider.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, can I get you to speak directly

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<v Speaker 2>into your mouthpiece because you're you're sounding like you're a

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<v Speaker 2>little off your mouth piece.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm commuting. I'm commuting at the moment, So I apologize.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been uh and I say this with no you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Joy a rising star in the arena homelessness, working in

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<v Speaker 5>And my biggest concern, and this has come up two

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<v Speaker 5>of mental health professionalists that don't communicate on a saying

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<v Speaker 5>or perhaps speaking in a foreign tongue like perhaps they

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<v Speaker 2>So how do you how do you relate that? How

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<v Speaker 5>Feel horrible for the families that have to, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>And I was curious what your take was on how

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<v Speaker 5>is it possible to integrate people who are not from

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<v Speaker 2>The connection Shane that I'm having trouble with is this

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<v Speaker 5>So talking about the people that would be looking after

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<v Speaker 2>Of what I'm saying is what I'm saying is he's

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<v Speaker 2>probably as American as apple pie. You know, been in

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<v Speaker 5>Perfect English. I'm thinking if he had, then he probably

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, he's saying us, boy, if he.

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<v Speaker 5>Lived in Massachusetts, there's a good chance that he was

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<v Speaker 2>This is not somebody who is who's gone through through

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<v Speaker 2>has has after having served I think it was about

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<v Speaker 2>twelve years in the military, has come out and they

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<v Speaker 5>Right, And we're all products of our environment. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 5>this individual has PTSD on top of, you know, underlying

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<v Speaker 5>a latent mental health issues that I don't know how

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<v Speaker 2>Well. Look, there's a lot of people who have PTSD,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not running down And first of all, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no suggestion of that. Go look at some of the videos.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a He had a real estate company that

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<v Speaker 2>he found that he sounds like, you know, your real

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<v Speaker 2>estate agent who might live next door to you. My question,

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<v Speaker 2>there are people out there who are being radicalized, not

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<v Speaker 2>On the dark web ISIS sits, and there's bad sites

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<v Speaker 2>of all different points of view. I think that once

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<v Speaker 2>people find themselves frequenting whether it's a kiddy porn site,

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<v Speaker 2>an ISIS site, or some sort of white racist, white

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<v Speaker 2>supremacist site, that's a red flag and we got to

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<v Speaker 2>start talking to those people and saying, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>doing on these sites? You know, we're monitoring what you're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're keeping an eye on you. This guy apparently

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<v Speaker 2>felt he could do whatever he wanted, including killing fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>people on Bourbon Street last night. I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>a communication problem. And I think the point you're making

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<v Speaker 2>in another context might be perfectly make perfect sense, but

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't work for this this particular program here. Do

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<v Speaker 2>we need more people helping people? Yeah, absolutely, we're not

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<v Speaker 2>going to disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I was getting at is what if this

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<v Speaker 5>individual had, you know, tried to reach out for help

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<v Speaker 5>and given the given the atmosphere and the climate that

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<v Speaker 2>Would I don't think that someone who's going I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think if I'm going to an ISIS site and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>having thoughts about renting the truck and driving it down

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<v Speaker 2>the street and killing as mary as many Americans as

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<v Speaker 2>I can as possible. I don't think if I go

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<v Speaker 2>to a mental health site that I'm going to probably

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<v Speaker 2>say that. But even if I do, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what you do with a person under those circumstances. I think,

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<v Speaker 2>if anything, that.

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<v Speaker 5>I had a client threatened to bring a gun into

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<v Speaker 5>work less than a month ago. We didn't give him

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<v Speaker 2>So what did you do with him? What did you

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<v Speaker 2>do with him?

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<v Speaker 5>We are monitoring him as closely as possible, we are.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, did you report? Did you did you report

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<v Speaker 5>So this is a homeless individual, then, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>So what was So he's homeless, but he's going to

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<v Speaker 5>He's going to bring a gun into a shelter that

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<v Speaker 2>Did you tell the shelter that this guy had told

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<v Speaker 5>It's it's it's me that would be getting shot at, right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well that's great. So you did the right thing

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<v Speaker 2>and hopefully the guy can get some help. I'm up

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<v Speaker 2>on my ten thirty news break Chaine. So I got

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<v Speaker 2>to let you go. Thank you for your call. Please,

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<v Speaker 4>No it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well come back more often. Okay, thank you very much,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciate you your effort. Here comes the news coming back

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<v Speaker 1>That night Side Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to the phones we go. Bob is in Boston. Bob, welcome,

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<v Speaker 2>next to a nightside go right hit Bob.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, good evening, Dan. I feel bad that I haven't

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<v Speaker 4>spoken to you in a couple of years. How have

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<v Speaker 4>you been.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been doing great. I hope you've been doing well too.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a little bit of a I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what it was, bronchitis or something for a couple of weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>but I timed it so I had that on my vacation.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm all set, go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>I really like you, and I think you're a nice gentleman,

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<v Speaker 4>and I want to wish you and everybody at WBC

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<v Speaker 4>Radium ten thirty a very, very happy and healthy new year.

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<v Speaker 4>But focus on the topic. It scared the hell out

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<v Speaker 4>of me when I saw on TV. And when Donald

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<v Speaker 4>Trump gets reelected on January twentieth, he needs to really

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<v Speaker 4>buckle down and think about this and spend more money

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<v Speaker 4>on public safety with the FBI and local officials. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>we need to keep America safe. And the problem is

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<v Speaker 4>is that there was so many terrorists of people that

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<v Speaker 4>have mental health problems and they're not like the other

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<v Speaker 4>Juman said, they're not getting professional help mental health and

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<v Speaker 4>mental illnesses and disorder. It's the illness of the brain

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<v Speaker 4>and there's not enough professional help that people can get.

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<v Speaker 4>I personally have gotten a lot of help in this

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<v Speaker 4>common wealth. I think Governor Mary Heally is an outstanding,

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<v Speaker 4>remarkable woman. She's joined the best she can to keep

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<v Speaker 4>by citizens of our commonwealth safe and sound. I think

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<v Speaker 4>if when the president gets re elected, he really needs

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<v Speaker 4>to things serious out having a chief Executive of public

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<v Speaker 4>safety and keep this KATCHI safe so people like this

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<v Speaker 4>and things like this don't happen again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very he has, as you know. I think what

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<v Speaker 2>you mean is when he is reinaugurated. He has already

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<v Speaker 2>been reelected. I'll reinaugurated on January twentieth, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>that that he's going to take some steps which will

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully tighten things up a little bit. Bob. Simple as

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<v Speaker 2>simple as that, Bobby, sound great, You got don't be

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<v Speaker 4>Come back and I've been to recovery away from alcohol

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<v Speaker 4>and drugs for two years, almost two years. And there

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<v Speaker 4>was a big write up about a week or so

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<v Speaker 4>ago about addiction and the Bosston Globe. And I just

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<v Speaker 4>want to say to you, Dan, I'm an animal lover

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<v Speaker 4>like you do you happen to have another dog or no?

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<v Speaker 2>No, but I get to babysit for both of my kids,

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<v Speaker 2>who are both married. They have dogs. My daughter has

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<v Speaker 2>for really the Wonder Dogs was a shorty that's great.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to say one last thing and I'll

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<v Speaker 4>let you go. My mother. I lost my mother almost

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<v Speaker 4>five years ago, and I'll tell you, damn, when you

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<v Speaker 4>lose your mother, it's like losing your best friend. And

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to say, you know, I personally have

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<v Speaker 4>got a lot of professional help from people are meant

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<v Speaker 4>to help. I want to quickly ask you why didn't

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<v Speaker 4>excover William were out close someway the state mental hospital

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<v Speaker 4>stat of the Commonwealth was just to save the state

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<v Speaker 4>money or.

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of those hospitals actually were also

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<v Speaker 2>closed by Mike Doucacas. There was a de institutional.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike do concress, I think Governor Mark Heely is joined

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<v Speaker 4>a great job, and let's keep this Commonwealth America safe

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<v Speaker 4>and look out for each other. And I think everybody

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<v Speaker 4>out there they're gonna walk a walk on the streets.

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<v Speaker 4>They should walk in groups and say something that somebody

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<v Speaker 4>if something like this is going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And we get people to react to what you have

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<v Speaker 2>to say. Best of luck, congratulations on your recovery.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, you have a good.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me go to gym in Kansas City. Gym in

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City. Next on nightside, Jim Groight.

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<v Speaker 6>Ahead, Dan, I think for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 2>Right back at you.

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<v Speaker 6>Happy new Year, Thank you, Happy New Year. How are you.

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<v Speaker 2>Feel a little better than I did a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago. What's on your mind tonight?

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<v Speaker 6>Jim? Three things? Well, first of all, like even saying

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<v Speaker 6>I would be very surprised that if they did an

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<v Speaker 6>autopsy on this guy, that they don't find massive amounts

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<v Speaker 6>of tetrahydro cannabinall in his blood and fatty tissues marijuana.

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<v Speaker 6>For those of you from your wenda.

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<v Speaker 2>Well there's no suggestion of that. But if they do,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully we'll they'll make it public.

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<v Speaker 6>Right there never is They never say it. But I

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<v Speaker 6>so again and again. That stuff is. They don't make

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<v Speaker 6>that stuff for kids. It's serious stuff. So you know,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, I'd be very surprised that they don't find

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<v Speaker 6>a lot of that. And the other thing is he

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<v Speaker 6>came across the border. Well, whether he's illegal or illegal,

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<v Speaker 6>he did across the border.

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<v Speaker 2>Jim, Jim, what he didn't come across the border?

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<v Speaker 6>You say he did not?

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<v Speaker 2>No, he was born, he's an American citizen.

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<v Speaker 6>But see you you see, you're not. I listened to

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<v Speaker 6>w w L from New Orleans all day long. Gooday,

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<v Speaker 6>and it's been since swept under the rug. But that truck,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know whether he was in it or not,

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<v Speaker 6>but that truck just came across the border an Eagle Pass.

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<v Speaker 2>Very jell me said, let me help you out on that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, you know me, Jim, I like I spend

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<v Speaker 2>my day prepping okay myself is that there was some

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<v Speaker 2>reports that that truck came across the border. I believe

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<v Speaker 2>it was November sixteenth from Eating Pass, Texas. What I

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<v Speaker 2>have found out tonight. Matter of fact, one of my

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<v Speaker 2>callers informed me about something that I had never heard of.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever heard of a website called Toro t

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<v Speaker 2>u R?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And what does that what to do? As far as

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<v Speaker 2>you understand.

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<v Speaker 6>It, I never really did. I kind of thought it

450
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<v Speaker 6>was like a mobile app, but it's it's just a

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<v Speaker 6>way to It's kind of like a bed and breakfast

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<v Speaker 6>only instead of renting somebody's house beyond their car.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Right, So therefore, what that what that means is

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<v Speaker 2>that I don't know. I assume the FBI is going

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<v Speaker 2>to look at the history of the truck, So there

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<v Speaker 2>could have been somebody, Uh, this guy rented the truck

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<v Speaker 2>that he destroyed in killing fifteen people. I assume I

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<v Speaker 2>believe he rented it in Houston and he drove yesterday,

459
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<v Speaker 2>rented it yesterday, and he drove to New Orleans yesterday. Now, well,

460
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<v Speaker 2>it could have. But the point I'm trying to make, Jim,

461
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<v Speaker 2>is that the truck could have been rented by other people,

462
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<v Speaker 2>maybe somebody who decided to drive to Mexico. Let's see

463
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<v Speaker 2>what they come up with. But I just on his

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<v Speaker 2>on his status. He's an American citizen who served about

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<v Speaker 2>twelve years in the US military and actually was deployed

466
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<v Speaker 2>to Afghanistan from I guess most of two thousand and nine,

467
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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and nine and into twenty ten. If anything,

468
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<v Speaker 2>this case sounds to me more like the Nadal Hassan

469
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<v Speaker 2>case out of Wood, Texas.

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<v Speaker 6>Into one thing that came to mind, and you informed

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<v Speaker 6>me that what's his namely not part in which I

472
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<v Speaker 6>was kind of wondering about that, but here's there's my

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<v Speaker 6>third thing, and you kind of touched on it. You said,

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<v Speaker 6>let's see what they come up with. One of the

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<v Speaker 6>things that I heard when I was listening on WWL

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<v Speaker 6>all day today was the there's the chief of police

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<v Speaker 6>or prosecutor somebody by the way with the w.

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<v Speaker 2>W elis those in the audience. That's the New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 2>very fine New Orleans radio station.

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<v Speaker 6>Very go ahead, Yeah, they're okay. Well, anyway, with the guy,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know what he would but he kept saying,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna keep my mouth set for a while, but

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<v Speaker 6>he said, if they don't come out with all the

484
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<v Speaker 6>details pretty soon, I'll spill the beans. So he must

485
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<v Speaker 6>know a lot about what's going on, what went on.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea who that was. I did see

487
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<v Speaker 2>the police superintendent, who I believe happens to be a woman.

488
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<v Speaker 2>She did admit that they that they may have made

489
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<v Speaker 2>the mistake of not restoring what they call it's called

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<v Speaker 2>Ballard's b O L A r d s. Those are

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<v Speaker 2>the steel posts or cement posts that are are that

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<v Speaker 2>block buildings and block streets, and apparently they had removed

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<v Speaker 2>some of those, and all they had was a police

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<v Speaker 2>car parked at the intersection of Canal and Bourbon Street.

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<v Speaker 2>And when this guy came down Canal Street, he just

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<v Speaker 2>took a ride on a Bourbon Street, swung around the

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<v Speaker 2>police car, went up over the sidewalk and and mowed

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<v Speaker 2>down fifteen people. So there was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>negligence on behalf. I think of the authorities in New

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans that might have prevented this.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a little bit long here, but for my break.

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<v Speaker 6>But they said something about these orange orange things. I

503
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<v Speaker 6>think they're probably talking about orange jersey plastic jersey barriers. Well,

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<v Speaker 6>what happens a lot of times if they just put

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<v Speaker 6>those jersey barriers out there, they don't fill them up.

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<v Speaker 6>You got to fill them things up with either water

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<v Speaker 6>or sand or they're just like having kind of like

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<v Speaker 6>a rocking chair there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I appreciate your points. Some of them were really

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<v Speaker 2>good and some of them I hope we can agree

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<v Speaker 2>that I was able to give you a little information

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe you didn't have. Appreciate your call. Thank you much.

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<v Speaker 6>Stay off the weed, Dan, I'm not a weed guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you know that. Thanks very much, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Tim and Wilburn. Tim, welcome next on nightside.

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<v Speaker 7>I granted him from all night. That's the most horrendous

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<v Speaker 7>thing I think I ever heard of.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's pretty horrendous, but I don't know that it's

519
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<v Speaker 2>as horrendous as nine to eleven. To be honest with you. You're

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<v Speaker 2>right in terms of the scale the magnitude. But it's

521
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<v Speaker 2>a terrorist attack. Those people twenty four hours ago were

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<v Speaker 2>alive just like you and I are, Tim, and now

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<v Speaker 2>they're no longer with us. Sad.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, you're dead on time too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Still, I have my night side mug here with a

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<v Speaker 7>cup of coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, that'll keep you awake, hey, Tim, Happy

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<v Speaker 2>New Year to you and your family. Okay, thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much for checking in. Always good to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>Look forward to hearing from you many times throughout the year. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>and at some point we will have a cup of

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<v Speaker 2>coffee together.

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<v Speaker 7>That would be great.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy New Year, Happy New Year, Tim, Thanks much, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we got a quick break coming up. I

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<v Speaker 2>got a little bit of room for you at one

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<v Speaker 2>line at six one seven, two five four ten thirty,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got two lines at six one seven nine

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<v Speaker 2>three one ten thirty. Uh. We have done nearly three

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<v Speaker 2>hours on this. I'm likely to switch topics at eleven

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock unless, uh, these lines fill up more quickly. Ron

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<v Speaker 2>in Weymouth and Mark and allstin. You guys are all set.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get you in pretty easily, and we have

545
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<v Speaker 2>room for you if you want to dial in. You

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<v Speaker 2>got the numbers. Dial away.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

548
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<v Speaker 1>night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's keep rolling. They're gonna go to Ron and Weymouth

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<v Speaker 2>Ron next on Nightsiger right ahead.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, good evening, Ray and uh, I mean yeah, we know,

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<v Speaker 8>good evening and uh and the happy New Year with

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<v Speaker 8>a hell of a stat Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you could call me Dan Ron, go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 2>We're on first name.

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<v Speaker 8>It something else going on most I don't know why

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<v Speaker 8>I said that, No, prop No, no problem. Sane called

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<v Speaker 8>in and a few others. They seem to write all

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<v Speaker 8>the softwa as a medical, psychiatric excuse for an attack. Now,

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<v Speaker 8>are you telling me that all the attacks in Israel

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<v Speaker 8>that they had they write an office that they're just crazy.

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<v Speaker 8>I believe it's something going on that we need to

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<v Speaker 8>watch very closely, especially radicalize people who have had military

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<v Speaker 8>training that did such a thing like this. And then

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<v Speaker 8>all the information coming in from the FBI statement that

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<v Speaker 8>I have in front of me, the official one today,

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<v Speaker 8>it all concludes everything that you've been saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually I had that statement as well. And the

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<v Speaker 2>thing that is most interesting about that is, obviously the

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<v Speaker 2>situation will always change. Let me just really quickly, says

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<v Speaker 2>you have it. This was this statement, which basically stated

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<v Speaker 2>the obvious. At approximately three point fifteen a Central Standard time,

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<v Speaker 2>an individual drove a pickup truck into a crowd of

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<v Speaker 2>people on Bourbon Street in New Orleans, killing at least

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<v Speaker 2>ten of courses now up to fifteen, injuring dozens of others.

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<v Speaker 2>After hitting the crowd, he exited the vehicle and fired

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<v Speaker 2>upon local law enforcement. Law enforcement returned fire subject pronounced

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<v Speaker 2>deceased at the scene to law enforcement officers injured transport

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<v Speaker 2>at a hospital. Subject was identified as we've talked about, forty

580
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<v Speaker 2>two year old shamsud Din Jabbar, US citizen from Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>and it goes on the ISIS flag. It says weapons

582
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<v Speaker 2>and potential ied were located in the subject's vehicle. Other

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<v Speaker 2>potential IED's were also found located in the French quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds to me like that might be dated information

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, right, you know something that situation, well

586
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<v Speaker 2>as that Davis cautioned us during the eight o'clock hour,

587
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<v Speaker 2>will change in the next few days. There also apparently

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<v Speaker 2>is an arrest made tonight in Houston. It said that

589
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<v Speaker 2>heavily armed police were spotted detaining a man in Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Now again, I have no idea if this guy is related,

591
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<v Speaker 2>but apparently he was detained near the home. Shirtless man

592
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<v Speaker 2>surrenders outside Houston home of terrorist who mowed down Revelus

593
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<v Speaker 2>in New Orleans report, So this could be some goofball.

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<v Speaker 8>I see all, wasn't I see all the same stuff

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<v Speaker 8>that you're saying, but I didn't want to intercede just

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<v Speaker 8>briefly here. I believe it's the beginning phase leading up

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<v Speaker 8>to more attacks and I think we're going to have

598
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<v Speaker 8>to go back to a nationwide alert system just doesn't

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<v Speaker 8>alert you know, police and security and alerts citizens also.

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<v Speaker 8>And we had that one time way back. I guess

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<v Speaker 8>that was after nine to eleven. I think we had

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<v Speaker 8>something like that at an alert system. We need to

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<v Speaker 8>get hav an alert system because I don't think people

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<v Speaker 8>are understanding that the how bad it is. Oh it's

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<v Speaker 8>just another attack. And I think we've we're letting down

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<v Speaker 8>our God is what I'm trying to say. Uh, We've

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<v Speaker 8>got it. We've got to change, and we can't be

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<v Speaker 8>waiting all this time, uh for anything else to happen.

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<v Speaker 8>It's it's got to change now. And I think, well, here's.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's my here, here's my not a solution, because there's

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<v Speaker 2>probably no solution to this. So I think we have

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<v Speaker 2>to recognize that there are people amongst us. We live

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<v Speaker 2>in a free society. There are people amongst us who

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<v Speaker 2>are attracted to some pretty weird activities. And I basically

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<v Speaker 2>am saying that if you're, uh, we we should be

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<v Speaker 2>able to monitor ISIS sites and find out what Americans

617
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<v Speaker 2>are frequenting those sites. And that's a red flag, just

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<v Speaker 2>as if somebody's frequency frequenting a kiddy porn site, that

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<v Speaker 2>should be a red flag. Now, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see what's wrong with if someone is going to get

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<v Speaker 2>on a public Internet site, I think that their right

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<v Speaker 2>of absolute privacy UH is limited there. I think you

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<v Speaker 2>know that that we have an obligation to do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>we can to to find people who are either going

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<v Speaker 2>to abuse children, who are going to be radicalized by ISIS,

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<v Speaker 2>or join hate organizations. And I know that my friends

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<v Speaker 2>in the a c L you are going to disagree,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm sick of of of the a c L

629
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<v Speaker 2>you saying, oh, you can do whatever you want, but

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<v Speaker 2>if you show a proclivity here spending a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>time on an ISIS site, you got unless you're a

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<v Speaker 2>college professor or or some sort of a researcher, I

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<v Speaker 2>think you've got a problem. Just as if you spend

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<v Speaker 2>a lot.

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<v Speaker 6>Of time on do I do too. I do too, Dan,

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<v Speaker 6>and Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>I think that not only do we need justice, we

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<v Speaker 8>need the beginning of swift justice. None of this hanging

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<v Speaker 8>on with a lot of the legal debuts and all

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<v Speaker 8>that let him stay in prison. We need to get

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<v Speaker 8>going and show them that we mean business that we're

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<v Speaker 8>not going to accept this. The American people want justice

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<v Speaker 8>and they want swift justice. Maybe they we'll get that

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<v Speaker 8>for the president President.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. You know, it was interesting. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a very quick case. Apparently there was an agreement reached

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<v Speaker 2>with the guy who's the head of the head terrorist

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<v Speaker 2>at Guantanamo, and they worked a deal where he would

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<v Speaker 2>plead guilty and they would take the death penalty off

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<v Speaker 2>the table. And apparently the Defense Secretary Secretary of Austin

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<v Speaker 2>tried to overturn that decision.

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<v Speaker 8>I heard.

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<v Speaker 2>This to me was insane. Uh. He should have been

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<v Speaker 2>up that decision. And a federal judge said no, the

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<v Speaker 2>Defense Secretary waited too long uh to make his decision.

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<v Speaker 2>And therefore, uh she Muhammad, the guy who was the

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<v Speaker 2>mastermind of nine to eleven, we'll never see the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, judge. Wheover the hell you are? How about that?

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<v Speaker 7>Huh?

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<v Speaker 8>So that means we really don't we really don't have

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<v Speaker 8>any deterrance no matter what they say. Uh. Oh, well,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, if they're caught in the act of doing it.

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<v Speaker 8>I mean that's like, don't you think, legally, pretty pretty

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<v Speaker 8>pretty big good evidence right in the act of it.

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<v Speaker 8>And for oeign countries, you think they wait around they.

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<v Speaker 2>Have guy's been Dono for twenty years. Okay, he should

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<v Speaker 2>have been taking care of a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 8>Absolutely, I like the other people.

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<v Speaker 6>I like Ron.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to get one more in here. We we

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<v Speaker 2>went a long time on our topic.

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<v Speaker 7>Here today we did.

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<v Speaker 8>We should thank you?

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry, should you call him?

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<v Speaker 2>No problem, talk to you soon. Let me go to Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>You knows, Mark going to wrap the hour for us.

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<v Speaker 9>Go happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 4>I get you.

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<v Speaker 9>I actually used very little social media, just a little

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<v Speaker 9>bit of LinkedIn, the ultra respectable uh social media that's

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<v Speaker 9>devoted to career development.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, I'm on LinkedIn to Mark as a matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact.

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<v Speaker 9>But I do think that it's possible to overdose on

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<v Speaker 9>social media. Back I guess last may. I have a

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<v Speaker 9>friend at synagogue who well was following the whole Israel

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<v Speaker 9>Palestrini and Arab war, and yet got a bit overwrought, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know it took what happened to him? What happened?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh, he's fine, he's fine now, but his wife, who's

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<v Speaker 9>a social worker, had to say, watch it hunting.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, a lot of people spend spend too

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<v Speaker 2>much time on social media. Absolutely, and if you but

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<v Speaker 2>again to follow the Israeli you know, hajmas war right thing,

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<v Speaker 2>But to hang out on ISIS sites and get radicalized,

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<v Speaker 2>that's something quite different. And you know in terms of we, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we see the result. We just see the result. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what the result was for fifteen people did Well.

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<v Speaker 9>Isn't it possible to draw up a probable cause level

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<v Speaker 9>case if somebody's doing too much of that stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think at a minimum, there should be some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of awareness by you know, by authorities that somebody

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<v Speaker 2>spending a lot of time on ISIS. I would go

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<v Speaker 2>and interview that individual. We have a right to knock

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<v Speaker 2>on the door and say, hey, I'd like to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to you again. You're on a what is theoretically a

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<v Speaker 2>public website, okay, you know, and and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>you have surrendered some of your personal your your privacy

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<v Speaker 2>rights when you're on a website that is uh that

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<v Speaker 2>is as dangerous as UH as isis ISIS website or

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<v Speaker 2>a kiddie porn website. I think you got to look

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<v Speaker 2>at them the same way.

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<v Speaker 9>In my opinion, Well, doesn't the FBI actually catch people

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<v Speaker 9>sometimes using the.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah they could. Yeah, sure, yeah, they can sort

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<v Speaker 2>of put people out there and sometimes they think they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking to an eleven year old girl or a ten

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<v Speaker 2>year old boy, and when they show up for the

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<v Speaker 2>meeting with them, Hello, you're talking with FBI agents. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's that's conceivable as well. So I don't know. Hey, Mark,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm up at my eleven o'clock news. We gotta let

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<v Speaker 2>you run, my friend, Okay, we'll talk. So thanks, Happy

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<v Speaker 2>New Year to you and yours.

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<v Speaker 9>Thanks, thanks walking up.

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<v Speaker 2>Here comes the eleven. We'll be back right after the eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>And I think I'm going to change topics at eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll see if I get something that might interest

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<v Speaker 2>you even more than this terrorism attack. It's a tough

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<v Speaker 2>way to start the year, but we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about a little lighter topic at eleven. Coming back on

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<v Speaker 2>Night Side,