Speaker 1: Let's continue to talk Utah BYU.
Speaker 2: The Monday after the rivalry game reaction Monday, Scott Mitchell
Speaker 2: on a Monday afternoon, Scott, a happy Monday.
Speaker 1: How you doing.
Speaker 3: I'm doing great. How are you doing?
Speaker 2: I'm good man, I'm good. Let's just let's start. Let's
Speaker 2: start right away with the thing. Let's do the thing
Speaker 2: holding call. At the end of the game. You played
Speaker 2: QB at the highest of levels. Man, tell me what
Speaker 2: you saw you fans up in arms b YU. Fans
Speaker 2: say nothing to see here? What does Scott Mitchell say?
Speaker 3: Well, if you look at the play and you know,
Speaker 3: I've seen ten thousand different angles of it, and you
Speaker 3: know there was a hold there, and and it's like, okay, fine,
Speaker 3: there's always holding. There's always something that goes on past interference.
Speaker 3: Holding between DB's and wide receivers. Is it's a nuanced art,
Speaker 3: you know, to really say, it's it's a basically do
Speaker 3: you impede someone's forward progress? And you know, so you
Speaker 3: look at it from the surfacing, Okay, we'll find it's
Speaker 3: a hold whatever. But but the thing that's challenging for
Speaker 3: me is the official set a tone, and they set
Speaker 3: the tone all year this is how we're gonna let
Speaker 3: you play as a defensive back. These officials come to
Speaker 3: practices in the fall, they have discussions with coaches, they
Speaker 3: watch the players. I mean there's a lot of time,
Speaker 3: a lot of communication back and forth about what you
Speaker 3: can get away with and what you can't. And the
Speaker 3: officials clearly all year I basically said, we're gonna let
Speaker 3: them play. I'm gonna let them play. So you you
Speaker 3: live in your mind as a dB coaches coaches this way.
Speaker 3: Everyone knows it's gonna you're you can, you can get physical,
Speaker 3: you can, you can get close to each other. And
Speaker 3: it's been consistent. That's what I've loved about it all
Speaker 3: year because I've loved Okay, you may not agree with
Speaker 3: it the way they're calling it, but at least they're
Speaker 3: calling it the same way. And that was the challenge
Speaker 3: for me because you know, in that moment, on that play,
Speaker 3: in that situation, now you're gonna call this that That
Speaker 3: was that was a little a little challenging. But the
Speaker 3: other side of it for me, Spence is you know
Speaker 3: it's too big to raik You know that kind of
Speaker 3: the slogan from the election you win by so much,
Speaker 3: you don't have to worry about late game calls like
Speaker 3: this constantly every week, week in and week out, putting
Speaker 3: your defense in the in the pressure situation to be perfect.
Speaker 3: I think it's hard because something like this is gonna happen.
Speaker 3: One guy somewhere makes one mistake and you lose a
Speaker 3: football game. So to me, it's like, you need to
Speaker 3: score more points on offense. You have to ball on
Speaker 3: the fifty yard line twice and you punt from your fifty.
Speaker 3: That's egregious, and the offense was actually moving. Brandon Rose
Speaker 3: played very well, like he played very well in this game.
Speaker 3: And to not score points, to not even have an
Speaker 3: opportunity to kick at least a temp a couple of
Speaker 3: field goals in those drives, you know that's the problem.
Speaker 3: And so you know you can't just blame it on
Speaker 3: that last play. And as a as a tough thing,
Speaker 3: it is a brutally hard peel though, to swallow when
Speaker 3: you think you've won the game. And I believe I
Speaker 3: know it. I paid it officials sometimes I've been so
Speaker 3: mad at him. I get it, but you just have
Speaker 3: to it's more than that play. I think that was
Speaker 3: the outcome of the game.
Speaker 1: Certainly, and we'll get to all that.
Speaker 2: But you referenced a little bit of an election slogan,
Speaker 2: and while we're in that space, after the game, Utah's
Speaker 2: athletic director Mark Harlan had a little stop to steal
Speaker 2: energy where he said, quote, I've been an athletic director
Speaker 2: for twelve years. This game was absolutely stolen from us.
Speaker 2: We were excited about being in the Big twelve. But
Speaker 2: tonight I am not We won this game. Someone else
Speaker 2: stole it from us. I'm very disappointed. I will talk
Speaker 2: to the commissioner. This is not fair to our team.
Speaker 2: I'm disgusted by the professionalism of the officiating crew tonight.
Speaker 2: Well apparently he did talk to the commissioner and went
Speaker 2: like this, you owe me forty grand and you have
Speaker 2: been publicly reprimanded. So your reaction to what is going
Speaker 2: to be known twenty years from now, was the Mark
Speaker 2: Harlan moment in this rivalry.
Speaker 3: Well, it's too soon to say this will be a
Speaker 3: historic moment, you know, because we're all still kind of
Speaker 3: reeling from it. But it will down the road. People
Speaker 3: will go remember the year that Mark Harlin just kind
Speaker 3: of lost his marbles and went off on things and
Speaker 3: It reminds me a little bit of you know that
Speaker 3: that social media post that you write at three o'clock
Speaker 3: in the morning, or that text message you write, you know,
Speaker 3: and you and you kind of have to ask yourself
Speaker 3: and should I should I hit send right now?
Speaker 1: And the answers always no. By the way, the answer
Speaker 1: is always right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. You should never say it. And he just said,
Speaker 3: forget that I'm sending this out, I'm hitting send. It's
Speaker 3: never a good thing. There's no there's no good optics
Speaker 3: to it, just none of it. It doesn't look good
Speaker 3: for him. Marks such a great a d and has
Speaker 3: done a tremendous job at Utah and and has been
Speaker 3: you know, incredible about brand, creating a brand, protecting a brand,
Speaker 3: building a brand, and and that that's that's a that's
Speaker 3: a tough one on the brand when you do that
Speaker 3: really really out of character for him. Believe me, I
Speaker 3: know how it feels. We're all emotional after the game.
Speaker 3: When I coached, I was like, you know, I coached
Speaker 3: high school football, and I just I told the parents,
Speaker 3: I'll talk to you any day of the week, just
Speaker 3: not right after a game, because we're both going to
Speaker 3: say things that we'll regret later. It's always the case.
Speaker 3: You know, we as media, we want to we want
Speaker 3: to get the reaction in the moment, but do we
Speaker 3: really you know, and and because when you do get
Speaker 3: the reaction, it's it's, uh, you know, maybe it's not
Speaker 3: what you really wanted. And I feel really bad for Mark,
Speaker 3: you know, the public reprimand kind of put you on notice.
Speaker 3: You know, it's not just a meaningless thing. It's like
Speaker 3: any kind of thing like this happens again, you're you're
Speaker 3: in and really, you know, you could be in some
Speaker 3: significant hot water. Uh So it's not just oh not
Speaker 3: that wasn't a good thing. There's there's there's repercussions to
Speaker 3: to that. Biggest fine ever in the Big Twelve in
Speaker 3: this situation. So they they made a statement, and I'm
Speaker 3: sure Mark, you know, regrets it, maybe not in the moment.
Speaker 3: I mean I've been there. I know I've said things
Speaker 3: in the heat of the moment after a game and
Speaker 3: in the moment you just go, I don't care, you know,
Speaker 3: at this moment, like I don't care, but tomorrow I
Speaker 3: probably will. And it's just it's unfortunate that that actually
Speaker 3: came out.
Speaker 2: And to your I want to underscore your point. I
Speaker 2: don't know this for sure. We have reached out to
Speaker 2: the you to try to get Mark on the show
Speaker 2: this week. Hopefully it'll come in studio to try to
Speaker 2: kind of explain aside. If I had to guess, I
Speaker 2: think he would like a mulligan. I think he you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's going to be like defiant when
Speaker 2: it comes to just react, reacting with emotion in the moment,
Speaker 2: how do you, as somebody, as you just said, somebody
Speaker 2: like you who has been in this scenario, how do
Speaker 2: you separate your emotion in the moment to react appropriately?
Speaker 1: Because I think everybody was feeling them.
Speaker 2: I walked, I watched the game on sidelines with Sean
Speaker 2: and order was there a bunch of XU players as well,
Speaker 2: And when that kick went through the uprights, you could
Speaker 2: feel the holy bleep just on the sideline in the stadium.
Speaker 2: So unfortunately, Scott, as you know, if you react simply
Speaker 2: out of emotion in the moment, you do things like
Speaker 2: and I've done it so many times, I am not judging.
Speaker 2: I've woken up before, I looked at my Twitter. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: just freaking go to bed.
Speaker 1: Next time. But I mean, ultimately, if you.
Speaker 2: React with emotion, you throw water bottles on the field
Speaker 2: as fans, you throw chairs and press conferences as coaches,
Speaker 2: and you say things that you need to walk back quickly.
Speaker 2: If you're an AD since you've been in that situation,
Speaker 2: how do you separate it in the moment?
Speaker 1: Seems like it's pretty tough.
Speaker 3: The best thing in the world's brutally tough. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, and sometimes you do it right and sometimes
Speaker 3: you don't. And a lot of it is if you're
Speaker 3: trained at it and you practice it all the time
Speaker 3: and you realize, you know, let's have this discussion tomorrow
Speaker 3: or the next day or whatever. You're you're always better off.
Speaker 3: But I know the moments where I just hit the
Speaker 3: send button and and you just you just it's hard
Speaker 3: to describe other than you go, you just kind of
Speaker 3: you just you know, you've just walked over the cliff.
Speaker 3: You know, you're just like you just I don't care
Speaker 3: what the repercussions of this, I don't care. And uh,
Speaker 3: and you know, and you and you just do it,
Speaker 3: and and there's it's it never turns out good. It
Speaker 3: never does, but you nonetheless still still feel like in
Speaker 3: that moment you have you have to do it. You know,
Speaker 3: a lot of people. You take Charles Barkley, right, I
Speaker 3: think Charles got away with it and still gets away
Speaker 3: with it now because he's just done it forever. Like
Speaker 3: he just doesn't care what people think. It's like, fine,
Speaker 3: find me, I don't I don't care. And some people
Speaker 3: are really okay with it. Some people, you know, just
Speaker 3: they they live on that, you know, where they can
Speaker 3: just kind of say and do and be what they want.
Speaker 3: And and of course the media loves that, and it's great, wonderful,
Speaker 3: And there are other people. Most people just you know,
Speaker 3: they just they just try to be professional, try to
Speaker 3: you know, just handle the situation. And quite frankly, for me,
Speaker 3: that's more of how how I was. It was like,
Speaker 3: I have an obligation of responsibility to talk to people,
Speaker 3: so I will talk to them in a civil tone
Speaker 3: and then I'll go handle the emotional side of this
Speaker 3: in a different way and and and deal with because
Speaker 3: you have to still deal with it. Look, you put
Speaker 3: your heart and soul into something. This This team has
Speaker 3: had a brutally tough year like far, you know, just
Speaker 3: the crushing season with all the expectations, and really the
Speaker 3: rightful expectations is a very good football team, and to
Speaker 3: have the kind of year that they've had after a while,
Speaker 3: it just wears on you. You spend so much time
Speaker 3: every just every week, the grind of the practice and
Speaker 3: the meetings and your body being beat up, and then
Speaker 3: to just pour your heart and soul on the field,
Speaker 3: really emotional game, massive crazy energy on the field, and
Speaker 3: then to have it end like that, it's just it's
Speaker 3: just so crushing and to and to feel like it's
Speaker 3: the judgment of another person that determines that it's not
Speaker 3: necessarily the play on the field. That's at least what
Speaker 3: you feel. You know, when an official makes a call
Speaker 3: and and you're like, well, there's no repercussion for him,
Speaker 3: he goes home to his house, he still gets paid,
Speaker 3: he goes on. And so that's the challenge you have
Speaker 3: as a player, and the frustration you get kind of
Speaker 3: with officials, with with things that you know don't seem
Speaker 3: right or seem fair, and and and they're just times
Speaker 3: when you know you just you just lose it, you
Speaker 3: just do.
Speaker 2: So I've never been a although I'm not a fan
Speaker 2: of officials, I'm very intrigued at sort of what, you know,
Speaker 2: what's of human would want to do that in life?
Speaker 2: I think that's fascinating because you're just so disliked. No
Speaker 2: matter what you do, one fan base is going to
Speaker 2: be mad at you on one hand or the other.
Speaker 2: I've never been a I'm not here for the blame
Speaker 2: the officials for the lost thing.
Speaker 1: I don't like unwritten rules.
Speaker 2: Like a guy dunks a ball when you're already up
Speaker 2: twenty with don't let them dunk it, Like if you
Speaker 2: don't want them to win, get in the way and
Speaker 2: do what you have to do if you're playing the sport.
Speaker 1: So I'm not a blame the officials guy.
Speaker 2: It certainly is a fascinating dynamic to discuss, and your
Speaker 2: perspective is always valuable. But away from the holding call,
Speaker 2: away from the second, well second third chance. Kalanie did
Speaker 2: get the time out on time, I mean, if you
Speaker 2: see the replay, did but it was another you know,
Speaker 2: kind of reminiscent of the miss field goals. You fans
Speaker 2: thinking that they're winning and they're not, they're winning and
Speaker 2: they're not, and then they didn't. So away from that though,
Speaker 2: Scott from a thirty thousand foot view. Why did Utah
Speaker 2: lose this football game?
Speaker 3: Oh boy, Well, here's the thing. In this conference, the
Speaker 3: talent is just really razor thin. Like you could take
Speaker 3: a hand, you know, you could take that all the
Speaker 3: teams right now that are at the bottom of the
Speaker 3: Big twelve, and by the grace of God, they could
Speaker 3: be in the top. And and and you could switch
Speaker 3: it around. I mean, you could go through through games
Speaker 3: that just broke a certain way for a certain team,
Speaker 3: uh differently, and and and so the margins are thin.
Speaker 3: So you've got to have a quarterback that plays very well.
Speaker 3: You have to have the guys healthy, and you can't
Speaker 3: you can't get banged up. And you've got to have
Speaker 3: the right schedule. You've got to have all these things
Speaker 3: kind of play in your in your favor. And and
Speaker 3: Utah is just you know that they've had a lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of bounces not go their way in
Speaker 3: this game, you know. So so it's a very evenly
Speaker 3: matched game, and you have a BYU team who literally
Speaker 3: has to play almost perfect in the second half in
Speaker 3: order to win. I mean, I mean, so many things
Speaker 3: had to fall right and to fall their way in
Speaker 3: order for them to win. And the pass that the
Speaker 3: Chase Roberts catches at the end of the game. I
Speaker 3: wasn't thrown to him. It was thrown to another guy
Speaker 3: and he just happened to be in the right place
Speaker 3: at the right time. And it's you know, it's about
Speaker 3: taking advantage of opportunities when you have them there. And
Speaker 3: that's what this that's what Utah has not done very well.
Speaker 3: Calhoun has an interception, it's probably a pick six and
Speaker 3: he drops it, and it's you got to make that play.
Speaker 3: That's not a play that's like, oh, well he got
Speaker 3: his hand. No, he should have intercepted that ball, and
Speaker 3: that's a missed opportunity. There's you know, there's tons of
Speaker 3: this that you know. The play calling when they got
Speaker 3: to the fifty yard line, it's not about it's about
Speaker 3: protecting the lead in that situation. Now you have the
Speaker 3: ball fifty yard line. You have to get points out
Speaker 3: of this, no matter what. You fight your life off
Speaker 3: just to get to the fifty yard line in normal
Speaker 3: situations when you start there, you know, so the play
Speaker 3: calling kind of bogged down a little bit, but it
Speaker 3: was really about when the opportunities were there, and it's
Speaker 3: across the board. You know it's not offense, not defense.
Speaker 3: As the whole team, Utah just hasn't been able to
Speaker 3: make plays to finish out games. And that's really what
Speaker 3: happened in this game last last week. There were tons
Speaker 3: of opportunities that had Utah taken care of it or
Speaker 3: taken advantage of it, they would have easily won this game.
Speaker 2: All right, obviously you're the guy we talked to about
Speaker 2: the quarterback play. Tell me what you saw, the good
Speaker 2: and the bad from Brandon, and then also interested in
Speaker 2: your thoughts when it comes to just why the offense
Speaker 2: stalled in the second half. I think it was seventy
Speaker 2: nine yards and four first downs after putting up twenty
Speaker 2: one in one quarter.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is an offense that couldn't move the ball.
Speaker 2: They haven't scored twenty four or more against a P
Speaker 2: four team all year. They hang twenty one in the second,
Speaker 2: then they go dormant in the second half. So give
Speaker 2: me your thoughts on Brandon and also your thoughts why
Speaker 2: the offense called out.
Speaker 3: Well, this is Brandon Rose's first start in college football
Speaker 3: in a rivalry game. Heated massive environment, and he was
Speaker 3: up to the challenge from the get go. I mean
Speaker 3: immediately you could see the accuracy of the throws and
Speaker 3: the command and the wanting to be there. I mean,
Speaker 3: he throws the touchdown to Keithy and I don't think
Speaker 3: he I don't think his feet touched the ground when
Speaker 3: he went off the field. He was so pumped up.
Speaker 3: He was just you know, and you and you love
Speaker 3: that passion, You love that excitement, and he he again.
Speaker 3: It was just an extension of what I saw before.
Speaker 3: Very decisive, very comfortable, whether he was running or throwing.
Speaker 3: You know, the decisions were there through the ball, extremely accurate,
Speaker 3: threw the ball down the field very well. Just even
Speaker 3: the interception, like you know, Coach Whittingham mentioned in his
Speaker 3: press conference that the tight end went the wrong way
Speaker 3: on the route and that would have been a completion.
Speaker 3: I mean, he threw it in the in the right spots.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like, oh that was a bad decision, a
Speaker 3: bad throw. It was just a tight end kind of
Speaker 3: kind of hung him out to dry. I I was
Speaker 3: even more impressed with Brandon Rose than I was I
Speaker 3: was two weeks ago against Houston. I mean, this guy
Speaker 3: can play, and it's good to see that he's that
Speaker 3: he's having the opportunity. Now, why did the offense bog down?
Speaker 3: You know, A lot of it is is just teams
Speaker 3: make adjustments, right, So so b Yu there, you know,
Speaker 3: you move the ball on them. They can't just sit
Speaker 3: there and go yeah, we'll just say doing the same
Speaker 3: thing we're doing. And and let you let you march
Speaker 3: down the field. And and so they make adjustments. And
Speaker 3: the adjustments were kind of some of their their stunts
Speaker 3: up front. And what it forced Utah into these third long,
Speaker 3: second and long situations and and and I really think
Speaker 3: you talk out really conservative on its play calling in
Speaker 3: the second in the second half, where they hadn't been
Speaker 3: you know before, and and and by you made an adjustment,
Speaker 3: and Utah didn't really adjust well to that adjustment. So
Speaker 3: they had these third downs and they got super conservative,
Speaker 3: and you know, and and maybe that's coach Whittingham saying, hey,
Speaker 3: I don't want you to try to go for it here.
Speaker 3: I don't want you to, you know, get get too
Speaker 3: aggressive on these third and longs. So let's just punt
Speaker 3: the ball. And they did, and and you know, they
Speaker 3: backed up Yu and they and you know, other than
Speaker 3: you know, they it looked like they had them for
Speaker 3: the most part when they when they had them backed
Speaker 3: up and they had the one long touchdown drive, and
Speaker 3: it was really when Utah kind of went back into
Speaker 3: a zone and played soft, and when they pressed the
Speaker 3: receivers and they pressured the quarterback. That's when the defense
Speaker 3: really really got after but just got a little conservative,
Speaker 3: you know. You you kind of get into a mindset of, well,
Speaker 3: let's let's play not to lose as applosed as opposed
Speaker 3: to playing to win. And I'm more of a let's
Speaker 3: be more aggressive. Let's you know, when you got the
Speaker 3: ball at the fifty yard line, I mean, you got
Speaker 3: us get point. I don't care what you say. You
Speaker 3: have got to get points. Whether it's field goals, touchdowns,
Speaker 3: and you targets, you know, anything, any a field goal.
Speaker 3: They still win the games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all they needed. That's all they needed.
Speaker 2: I wonder did it feel to you like it was
Speaker 2: Stanley from the office, this is just a run the
Speaker 2: clock out situation. It felt like they were just trying
Speaker 2: to kill the clock, playfield position. I don't know if
Speaker 2: that's play calling. I don't know if that's Mike, but Jake,
Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's Kyle Whittingham. But there
Speaker 2: were so many second half drives, and definitely in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter where it just felt like they were just
Speaker 2: trying to kill the clock, play field position and then
Speaker 2: instead of playing to win, playing not to lose, like
Speaker 2: the old cliche goes, is that a fair assessment of
Speaker 2: what you saw?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well it felt like it at least, you know,
Speaker 3: I don't most you know, not at the very beginning
Speaker 3: of the second half or sure, yeah, when they started
Speaker 3: winning the field position battle and they started getting these
Speaker 3: really good, good field positions. Yet it did feel like that.
Speaker 3: But when you know, going back to how the talent
Speaker 3: is so equal, that makes every possession, It makes everything
Speaker 3: you do so much more magnified. Like you you you
Speaker 3: have to take advantage of the opportunities you have in
Speaker 3: every game and you know everything that's going on because
Speaker 3: you can't afford you're not that good. No one is
Speaker 3: that you can just wow, okay, hey we'll punt it
Speaker 3: right here, no big deal. You know, it's like no,
Speaker 3: now you have to uh. There has to be a
Speaker 3: sense of urgency, a sense of attention to detail, a
Speaker 3: sense of like you can never not focus and you
Speaker 3: know when you're when you're a defense like you, though,
Speaker 3: has there been some lapses that have caused big plays?
Speaker 3: And it's maybe a guy got you know, a little
Speaker 3: lazy or lost focus somewhere and then and then those
Speaker 3: big plays kind of happen and you just you can't
Speaker 3: afford to ever ever let down. And and I think
Speaker 3: there's been a little bit of that with this team.
Speaker 3: You know, there's there hasn't been quite that that intense
Speaker 3: focus and that you know, that a realization that every
Speaker 3: play matters, and and and have that urgency of everything.
Speaker 3: You know, when you when you when you play on
Speaker 3: every snap.
Speaker 1: All right, Scott, before I say you loose, We'll finish
Speaker 1: on this.
Speaker 2: It's a simple yet complexed question because b Yu has
Speaker 2: answered every question that's been asked of them, and your
Speaker 2: are who your record says you are. They are clean
Speaker 2: all together, and they're cleaning conference, and they have a
Speaker 2: tremendous margin of error between now and the end of
Speaker 2: the season. They're probably going to Dallas. It looks like
Speaker 2: no matter what happens. But my question is simple, again,
Speaker 2: the answer might be complex. How how good do you
Speaker 2: think they are?
Speaker 3: So I've talked to buddy of mine earlier and he's
Speaker 3: a huge bay You've Haan and And I said, if
Speaker 3: you'd asked me a year ago, Okay, which of the
Speaker 3: two teams by U Utah is the first to go
Speaker 3: to the college football playoffs, one hundred out of one
Speaker 3: hundred people would say Utah. And and the reality is
Speaker 3: right now, you know BYU is, with their schedule, with
Speaker 3: the way they've played, it's not just going to the
Speaker 3: Big Twelve championship because if they well, first of all,
Speaker 3: they need to run the table. If they want to
Speaker 3: go to the playoffs, they need to run the table
Speaker 3: because one loss will will kind of mess them up,
Speaker 3: so they can they could be a one loss team
Speaker 3: after the conference championship, I believe, and still make the playoffs.
Speaker 3: And the reality is what I what I have been
Speaker 3: so impressed with them. You know, there's not I don't
Speaker 3: know that. There's a lot of great teams. Maybe the
Speaker 3: best team in college football's Oregon. But you know, Georgia's
Speaker 3: lost twice, Alabama's lost twice. Maybe Texas is up there,
Speaker 3: you know, Ohio State. Maybe those are the three best
Speaker 3: teams in the country. And I don't know, but you know,
Speaker 3: I think what b Yu does and will continue to do.
Speaker 3: Is they're always going to give themselves a chance to
Speaker 3: win every week because they play hard and they play
Speaker 3: for each other, and it's not one guy. I mean,
Speaker 3: they do it by committee on defense and offense. And
Speaker 3: because of that, everyone knows they they're they're going to
Speaker 3: do their part and and and it's it's kind of
Speaker 3: a good situation to have happened. So I you know,
Speaker 3: I think they'll make the playoffs. Personally, what happens in
Speaker 3: the playoffs. You know, you don't have to win every game,
Speaker 3: You just have to win the one game in front
Speaker 3: of you. I mean, anything's possible.
Speaker 2: All right, Scott, Well, I appreciate the time. Man, it
Speaker 2: was such an interesting night. It's such a crazy game.
Speaker 2: But have a great week. Best of luck and Boulder
Speaker 2: and we'll chat soon.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, appreciate it. Thanks. Vin,