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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, all right, welcome back everybody.

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Speaker 2: I have reconvened the panel because there's a lot to

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get to. Thomas, Stormy and Pete Keinones are back now.

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Look I want to I'm gonna skip all the intro stuff.

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You guys know who these guys are. Anyway, I just

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want to stress check the check the show notes. I'm

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gonna put links to all this guy's content in my

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show notes every every time.

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Speaker 3: They're here.

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Speaker 2: And we have a new special guest today who I've

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been wanting on my show for a while, so it's

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great to have you here today. Jay Burden joins me

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from the Jay Burton Show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you so much for having me Astrol. Obviously,

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you and I have been talking for a while, much

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less on air than off, but I'm happy to be here,

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especially among such a steamed company.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, of course. So I look forward to

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the continuation of this conversation. Last episode, we got the

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ball rolling and you know Trump. So Trump wins the presidency.

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We declare it's a victory for the right, no matter

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how you slice it. And already I'm seeing I mean,

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I guess this actually started even before he won the election.

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Already I'm seeing people shouting him down from the right

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for his choices, for his cabinet picks, and people are

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calling these guys neo cons among other things. They're calling

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them Israel firster, which was really just another name for

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a neo con. And I thought it might be good

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for us to give an actual, measured, sober assessment from

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the right, from Trump's right, of his cabinet, of the

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people he's picking. What the prospects are we think for

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these guys being favorable to us and our goals at

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least to some extent. I guess we could juxtapose that

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by saying at least not as harmful to just regular

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people as a Kamala presidency would have been, which I

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think should be the you know, the bare minimum. And

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then also this term neocon that gets thrown around a lot,

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What does that mean? And is it still a meaningful term?

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Can we still use that term and call people that?

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So I wanted to Thomas and Stormy. We're talking before

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we went on air. So I think I want to

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to go to Stormy first and then Thomas, and then

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we'll really I'd like to really flesh this cabinet out

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and that's not necessarily like individually, like person by person,

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but just in a general sense.

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Speaker 5: So we got these guys by person, I mean just

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some of the conversations that Pete have had along with

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long lines of the people in the Department of Justice.

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Is a lot less black pilling than people realize.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh there are. There's a couple guys specifically by

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name that we need to talk about specifically.

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Speaker 5: But not everything just Gates.

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Speaker 2: Well, he's a special case because it just cames.

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Speaker 5: It's not just Matt Gates. There's some real heavy hitters.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think he stepped down though. Just today.

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Speaker 3: You say that, Yeah, I saw that. Yeah he did,

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which didn't surprise me at all. He's he was a

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bad pick. But we'll get into that later.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's let's hang on one second, because Stormy

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was saying something. I personally use the term neocon because

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I consider it a pejorative. I use it insultingly. It's

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not necessarily uh, it's not necessarily equivalent to Zionists, but

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I use it in the same way. I think Stormy

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doesn't like using that term. Stormy, do you mind starting

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us off here.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when it comes to like Neokon's Like what Thomas

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and I were talking about before we kicked off is

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that it not only is it being misused, it's an

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excuse word.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: So when Martin Armstrong or you know, the Duran or

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all these other popular normy economic shows or geopolitical shows,

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and even any of the domestic ones, right, like the

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Dan Bong geno types, when they use neocon, they're just

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scared to say jew right, Like, that's what it is,

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like Martin Armstrong was the basically what happened in Ukraine.

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Martin became a victim of he knows firsthand. Everybody knows

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Juliana Songe. But do you know that probably the most

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important guy in the history of finance in the United

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States spent eleven years in solitary confinement without ever having

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to go to trial. Right, the most accurate financial forecaster

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in the history of tradable securities, never got a trial

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and spent levitis in solitary confinement because he was a

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victim of these neo kan oligarchs. As he says, right,

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he's a boomer. He sees what we see, but they

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are scared to say it. I know a lot of

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people like this, you know, whether it be in finance

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or whether it be in business and industry. Right, people

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know what's up, and they're just really scared to talk

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about it, especially if they're older. So neocon somehow has

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become the acceptable term for these people, and I think

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really we need to when it's being used in those

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cases to force them to be accurate. Not only is

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it not really serving anyone to call them something a

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political philosophy that they don't actually have. So one thing I.

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Speaker 4: Just briefly is that, as someone who is not primarily

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but largely active on YouTube, the term neocon is one

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of a handful of euphemisms you can use to say

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something that if you set it directly and clearly, you'd

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lose your platform. And so sy I'm I am sympathetic

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to your point more broadly, but in that specific case,

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like if I say things like, you know, the Jews

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did nine to eleven, I don't get a YouTube channel anymore.

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If I say with you, so, it's it's a tool, right,

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there are a large number of people who who don't

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see through the joke, right, They take it at face

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value and the listeners don't exactly that needs to be

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taken into account. But look, not every platform is as

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friendly as as Twitter or apparently as you know, some

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of the podcast platforms.

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Speaker 5: But away to you, guys, nobody should know just by

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the way, nobody should lose their platform if naming them.

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If you're earning a living and you're doing good work

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and you're putting the word out, I'm not telling you

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that you have to name them, right, don't risk your platform.

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That's not what I'm asking.

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Speaker 2: More, before we go to time, kind of ask Stormy

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a quick question, Thomas, and then what do you The

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one reason, the one misgiving I have for what you said, Stormy,

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which I overall agree with, is that the term neocon,

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especially when I use it, it doesn't only refer to

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Jewish people. There are Christian people who were neocons, like

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John Bolton's the best example, but I was reading I

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think it was in John Meerscheimer's Israel Lobby somewhere. I

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think that's where it was. He was distinguishing between Jewish

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neocons and Christian neocons by calling them Christian Zionists. So

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do you think that we need to make that like

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neo kan refers to the Jewish ones, and Christian Zionists

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Speaker 3: Jewish non Jewish.

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Speaker 5: Ones Jewish ones. That doesn't whether it's they care. You know,

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fifty percent of them care about a little state in

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the Middle East. The other fifty percent pretend to not

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care about the little state in the Middle East, but

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both of them care about the nation of is. If

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you these people, if you see yourself as a if

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your people are the nation and there is not a

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physical you know, the physical land mask does not really

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even matter for you in your paradigm and how you

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conceptualize yourself, the place you're in and the people around you.

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Zionists and anti Zionists play back and forth.

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Speaker 3: Kind of cute.

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Speaker 5: But when it's Christians doing it, I think they absolutely

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need to own the term Christian Zionists. If you're going

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to be that way, you need to hang that. You

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need to hang that albatross around their neck.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I like that. I'm with you, all right, Thomas,

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thank you, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Well, haven't clarified terms yet. The open starred have actually

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means something. It's a cold war para like intellectual paradigm. Okay,

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Ner Sharma is a good resource, but he's got blind spots,

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you know, like a lot of twentieth century clitical theorist state.

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really really mired in like twentieth century paradigms and mythologies

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that I don't think apply anymore. And that's that's why

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I think neorealism is bullshit. It's it's just kind of

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like it's and in Mary Times Skates. I don't think

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it's HEA's copping out. I think he actually believes that.

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But this idea that like all structural variables are, what

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is this positive and in power politics, that's asinine. But

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you you've got to understand the neo gone paradigm because

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it relates to what's happening with the War on Russia, Okay, Like,

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and that's why that's where neo conservatism comes from, you know.

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that is what passes for a right wing in America.

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doesn't mean anything outside the Cold War, because every quote

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conservative is a neo conservative. It's not like there's some

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like faction of like America Firsters in a real sense,

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or like Taftian Conservatives who are like the opposition and

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they're like fighting the control policy, like Trump's trying to

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parlay that sensibility or that desire people have into into

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a mandate. But that doesn't mean it exists. What neog

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servism was was when the Cold War kicked off again

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in earnest on the heels literally the Soviet Union waging

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an open war on Israel, you know, Washington's response and

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all other things with the Jackson Vanic Amendment. Okay, we're

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gonna punch the Soviet Union for perceived you know, abuses

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of the Jewish population there. Okay. The Soviets released a movie.

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remember this. It's a yeah, secret and explicit. It literally

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tookage from their air debut to you know, The Eternal Jew,

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the enemies of the Russian people and the several nationalities,

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the enemies of the souls of Communitian nations. They are

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are ops that first last and always okay. So all

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sustain they tant okay. So basically you had this entire

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cadre of very active and engaged Jews who defected from

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the Democrats because they're like, you're so oft on the

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Soviet Union and these people are our mortal enemies, you know,

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not just of America, but they're gonna program us. You know.

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called the Competitive Analysis Exercise, that was commissioned by this

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guy Albert Volsteter, who is the descendant of these very

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wealthy cosmopolitan Jewish people from the hats rempre. He corralled

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all these guys like Paul Which like David Frum, like

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you know, then a big shout in the Ford administration.

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corralled the data is saying that CIA is deliberately underestimating

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Soviet capabilities, particularly strategic nuclear capabilities. This is generating a

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vulnerability gap. You know, we are losing the Cold War,

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and in military terms, that was true, I think, but

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this was parlayed into this kind of like rabid anti sovietism.

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of these guys like Leo Strauss and Alan Bloom who

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basically they took on this kind of like right wing style.

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aggressive militarism worldwide to promote liberalism and the kind of

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rip out of people there's sort of identitarian sensibilities, and

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that was arbitrarily just kind of declared to be right

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wing by the media, Like how how being some like

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Wilsonian on steroids who's also basically a Trotskyist who thinks

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that waging war on all on all different civilizations as

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a matter of national pride, that kind of disabuse them

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of any sort of like ethno cultural or sectarian identity.

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what you know. Bloom was the guy too who claimed

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and is the closing American mind, Like oh what what

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liberalism is, and it's you know, all this is European

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stuff like Nietzsche and Heidiger, and you know, it's it's

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cultural relativism, you know. So Bloom's old notion was, you know,

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got to aradicate that and impose this kind of like

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to like central European kind of cultural like this is

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kind of central being a cultural mind. But that was

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like arbitrarily declared to be like right wing. So if

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you're talking about conservatism in America, like you're talking about

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that bullshit. Okay, so it's all like neo conservatism, but again,

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outside of the Cold War, it doesn't make any sense.

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So yeah, I feel you, guys, and forgive me for

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being long wined on this, but it's important. I don't

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think it's just guys like you saying, oh, I can't

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I can't say Jews. I'm gonna say niokaon. I think

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they're idiots and they don't. They actually don't understand like

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the the heritage or providence of those terms. They've got

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no idea what it means. They think like Kamala Harris

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is a Marxist, like they think that they think that

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people like me are a liberal. They think that they

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think that anybody who's like anybody who says things they

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don't like but runs on a Republican tickets and theocon like,

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they just fucking they're just fucking morons. I think.

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Speaker 4: So, to what degree do you think that this confusion

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stems from the last kind of big fight in the

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conservative movement between the paleo conservatives and the neo conservatives.

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that has anything to do with the confusion of you know,

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vaguely right of center people that I think are icky

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and gross.

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Speaker 3: I think part of it. I think that Batsy was

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an academic fight. Like I was talking to my friend

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about this who who who spends a lot of time

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at Hillsdale College, like the only two Paleos. Because I

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was in college in the nineties, you'd find like academic

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type guys who wrote for chronicles who were into Russell

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Kirk and Pat Buchanan and San Francis. But these guys

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had no like clout in Washington, like they had no power,

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you know, Like Buchanan was kind of like the one

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like Taffy into conservative who managed to kind of like

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his his campaign, his campaign like didn't go anywhere. I

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think it hurt Bush forty one when he carried the

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New Hampshire primary in ninety six, but not put or Dull,

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a lame duck anyway. And you know, I don't he

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wasn't able to pull off what Wallace did, even though

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that's what he was trying to do. So I think

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were somewhat sophisticated in these matters in those days, like yeah,

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that mattered, but the re means throw like who were

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the paleos in Washington? And I guess some people be like, oh,

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Jesse Helms, I don't does he Helms? And Dixie Crat

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became a Republican because Johnson, you know, like I don't

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you know, and like I uh, I mean people who

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think that I'm being overly punitive ever or not characterriving

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this correctly. Okay, it's like how did how is it

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that after was a Bush forty one administration these people

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say got their way like one hundred and ten percent

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of the time, I'm doing like literally insane things like

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we can't abolish NATO, we got to repurpose it to

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attack Serbia for no reason because we hate the Ivans

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for reasons we can't articulate. And everybody's like, yeah, cool,

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like like that, if there was some paleo faction that

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could not have happened, people would have been like that's ridiculous,

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that doesn't make any sense. This is catastrophic. But the

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you know, but this faction didn't exist in Washington. And

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that's one of the reasons I'll stop because I don't

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want to take up everybody's time. But that's whys why

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it's misguided when people like shit on Trump, like, look,

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you're not in a game if you think that there's

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some like electoral way to fix things, or like if

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you think there's like some there's some imaginary regime that's

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potentially gonna like a point some like some like true

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America first guy a secretary of state. There's some guy

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who's gonna you know, who's like father Coughlin is like

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your secretary the Interior or something like. That's what's hurted.

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So your only interest should be in the regime dying

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which it's doing. Your onlyestould be in seceeding from it,

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and your only interest in electoral Beltway stuff should be

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people who aren't actively harming us and our allies in

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places like Gaza, Syria and Russia. That's all. That's the

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only thing you should give a fuck about. Like beyond age. Man,

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I'm mad at Trump because I have a Gerbil in

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my ass and there's this guy he nominated doesn't like

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my gerbil in my asshole. So this is bad. I mean,

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I gives a fuck. Yeah, sorry that was too long.

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Speaker 2: No, it's perfect. I think that's why we're able to

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take a more measured perspective here, I hope, because we don't.

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We we're not hanging all of our hopes on this guy.

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None of us, none of us stand to be devastated

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when he doesn't fucking deliver on a laundry list of

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grievances that we have, because that's not that's not how

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we relate to him. I also don't think.

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Speaker 6: Like there's no right wing. I mean, I'm looking at

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this tweet right now, and this is someone who I

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don't know if they support Trump, but this is an

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elected official from South Carolina and she says, and she's

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the one who basically destroyed the Citadel by saying, oh,

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we need women to go to the Citadel. Fuck you do.

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She goes, we support gay marriage and voted for the

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Respect for Marriage Act twice. However, if you think protecting

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women is discrimination, you are the problem she's talking about,

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like transgenders in women's bathrooms. This has nothing to do

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with us. I mean, this is what we look at

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people who support gay marriage and vote for Respect for

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Marriage Act twice as people who are just in line

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with the regime that has existed for eighty five to

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ninety years. This is not right wing, and to try

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to pretend that it is. I mean, if this person,

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if they by mistake, do something that would help our people, okay, fine,

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but that doesn't mean we're gonna jump to their you know,

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we're on their side for anything other than some mistake

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they may make that you know, in some way benefits

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us in the long run.

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Speaker 3: No, they're there one way. They're literally like crazy old

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cons like talking about like ass ss Like what the

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fuck is that? Like that's.

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Speaker 2: When guys, you know, say Trump isn't gonna deliver a

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B and C. All I want to say to them

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is like, we're fucking retard for thinking that the president

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of the United States of America would ever cater to

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any of this shit. Like that's not that's not what

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what they're there for. So to to connect the the

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neokon thing to Trump's current administration, the thing is the

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reason why it became a bad word and the only

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reason why it's even in the mouths of people who

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don't even know what a neo con is is because

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of the George W. Bush presidency and their legacy uh

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since then, which is like the biggest disaster of my

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fucking lifetime, I think, uh, which is saying a lot

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considering the COVID thing, and some of these people like

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John Bolton was still around in Trump's first term. So

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I think that some people, maybe on the left are

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trying to smear him as a neocon. But even on

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the right, they're smearing them as neo cons because they're

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pro Israel. But part of the reason why it's a smear,

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as they're trying to like say that his business as

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usual from George W. Bush's presidency. I don't know how

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true that is. I don't know how much how much

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consistency there is from then to now. But like with

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somebody like Mark Rubio, he seems pretty down the line

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with those guys. But we're in like a whole new

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paradigm really now, so we even.

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Speaker 4: Well. And I think this is something I can speak

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to because I'm a little bit younger than you guys,

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and so you know, growing up in the George Bush era, right,

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the ascendancy of this style of conservative politics, you know,

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after the end of the Cold War. I cannot stress

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how different the atmosphere is.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 4: Of course, those guys made shall we say, very tepid,

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you know, motions to the concerns of the silent majority

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of Middle America, but it was very clear that's not

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what they cared about. And you know, as someone who

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actually lives here right who's been in Right America, my

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entire life. It's completely clear that this is a different

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this is a completely different political atmosphere. And look, I

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think you're right, Astral. None of us were expecting Trump

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to ride in on a white horse and take us

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to based world. Right, It's so stupid. I feel like

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we don't even need to say it. But from the

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very basic level of does this help us? Yes or no?

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Like one, you could argue that even a mitt Romney

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Republican would have been better than you know, the Biden

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regime just for the sheer perspective of I have to

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live here. But you take that another level and you're like, well,

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Trump is significantly better for someone who cares about the

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you know, the white native population of this country than

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any other Republican certainly in my life, and I would

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argue in many of yours as well. And so look,

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is he perfect?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 4: Is he better?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: And if you can't accept that, right, you're just literally

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addicted to being a loser. You're addicted to how everything

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secretly is. You know, it's so over And look, I'm

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not saying we need to look at this in you know,

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a romantic way. We need to look at this in

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a way where we're denying the facts because look, there

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are negatives in Trump's cabinet. I don't think they're as

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bad as Twitter will tell you, but you know, we

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need to look at this in effectively, like the net

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amount of power we're gaining, right, the net amount of

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good being done for our people, and it's it's significant,

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it's a significant improvement. And again there's this kind of

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like retarded thinking of like viewing Trump is like, well,

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he's not Mussolini marching on rope. You know, It's like, well,

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of course, no one fucking thought he was. And it's

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just an artificial straw man to make yourself look, you know,

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sort of like wiser than everyone, Like, oh I knew

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it wasn't gonna be that good. It's like, well, yeah, sure,

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so to fucking everyone else. Yeah, it's uh, I find

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it very tedious.

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Speaker 2: No, that's perfectly well said, especially the net amount of gain.

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Go ahead, Toms.

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Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, well, it's also too. I mean,

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I'm I'm a I'm a one percent vanguardist, like with

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one hundred percent gas and no breaks. But I acknowledge

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that because to it, said Jay Burden's point, we do

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have to live here like now, if you're not at

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least like tepidly right wing or pro white, you're viewed

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as like a huge pussy faggot or like a nerd

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or like some disengaged like old person. Like the degree

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to which that is like literally a one to eighty

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from like the nineties, like like people have like no

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idea about this, I guess because they didn't link through it.

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Like people like fucking hated you if you were like

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pro white and nineties they hated you. They like wanted

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you dead. Like I'm not exaggerating. They looked at you

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like they look at you basically like you were worse

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than like a child molester. Okay, And like now that's

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basically normal to think that way, at least in some

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water down sense, Like that's it's basically impressed in America

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outside of the outside of the War between the States era,

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there to be like such a massive and total reversal

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in what is like normy opinion in like thirty years time.

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It's totally fucking insane. And so anybody, I especially not

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gonna take it serious when it's like some like twenty

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two year old kid like saying like Trump's a paste

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and shit, it's like, bro, you were sperm when I

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was having to like fucking avoid like half the hoods

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in proximity so I didn't get like killed by fucking

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peril blasts like fuck you. You know, It's like, I

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the degree to which this is a complete Overton window

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shift is insane, and that can't be like negative even

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if you're totally anti regime like I am. So yeah,

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anybody who's anybody's driving cap about stupid things such as

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the aforementioned is is like somebody who needed tune out

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because they're just being There's some like there's something like

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shut in fagot who's yeah, trying to be edgy or

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like too cool over school.

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Speaker 4: Well, and I have a very specific example of that, right. Yeah,

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Obviously immigration has been a live issue for seventy years.

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member of polite society and you know you can advocate

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for mass deportations is insane, right, Like that's illegal to say.

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And a large number of you know, continental European countries

472
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and you can have you know, pop stars. You know,

473
00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:50,720
admittedly these aren't serious people, but you know, Lana del

474
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:53,319
Rey is a top forty artist posing with a T

475
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:58,839
shirt that says mass deportations now, and she hasn't been canceled.

476
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And look, obviously we're, like you said, Thomas, we're one

477
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:05,240
percent movement, right, this is a vanguard. We're not looking

478
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:09,240
for celebrity endorsements. But I mean, can you imagine even

479
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:11,599
in the political climate four years ago, like this has

480
00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:15,640
produced a massive sea change. So, you know, obviously we

481
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,359
can complain about retards on Twitter till we go blue

482
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,039
into the face. It's it's fun, you know, but I

483
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:24,359
think it's important to actually go through, you know, the

484
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:27,000
the Trump appointments, as we've kind of said earlier, to

485
00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:28,279
actually make our case here.

486
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,599
Speaker 5: You know, we've laid out the broadest level of it.

487
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:32,519
Speaker 4: But Stormy, do you want to do you want to

488
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go into some of those picks.

489
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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, go on. I think Gates is going I

490
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,119
think Mike Johnson's are going to get replaced. That's what

491
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:41,839
that tells me.

492
00:27:43,079 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like Pete's having technical difficulties. Pete. Let's

493
00:27:46,759 --> 00:27:49,079
wait for Mett for Pete to come back on Gates

494
00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:52,000
because he's got something along the lines of what you

495
00:27:52,079 --> 00:27:54,319
just said to say, and it's really good.

496
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, So for me.

497
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 2: All right, So I want to add I want to

498
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,240
piggyback off Jay's question, which I want to say that

499
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,599
the question really is do we think these guys can

500
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,799
push Trump around?

501
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:07,759
Speaker 3: All right?

502
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 2: Do you think guys like exactly, dude, go ahead, I

503
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:12,599
don't need the.

504
00:28:13,319 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 5: Other way around, Like totally, anybody freaking I see so

505
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:23,200
many people like, oh my god, Trump appointed Marco Rubio.

506
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:26,119
This means he's going to go to war with Iran

507
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,519
because the Secretary of State has unilateral powers to declare

508
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:35,960
peace and war at will and can mobilize United States

509
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:40,200
forces to arms and has like shut the fuck up,

510
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:42,400
like what do you think, Like this is an employee.

511
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,279
He is an employee of the president.

512
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,559
Speaker 2: Trump owned him. Trump already proved that he.

513
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a cock, but it's also secretary of State.

514
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,240
It's like a cite cure anymore. You gotta look at

515
00:28:57,599 --> 00:29:01,160
the beltways, not like it was in the Reagan era.

516
00:29:01,759 --> 00:29:05,200
It's like Secretary Defense is basically defecto Secretary of State

517
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:08,720
and National Security Advisor. Secretary of State's like this dummy

518
00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:11,640
synay here where like slobs like missus Clinton can get

519
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,079
slotted into. So it's like it's not it's nastage. Yeah, exactly.

520
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,519
Speaker 5: Also secretive is the same thing, right you're telling me,

521
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:21,480
Like the little black guy that we have that's pretending

522
00:29:21,519 --> 00:29:23,799
to be our secretary of defense can disappear for four

523
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,440
months and nobody notices while there is we're at war

524
00:29:26,559 --> 00:29:28,720
with one country and we have another, Like, how is

525
00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:29,759
this person important?

526
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:30,559
Speaker 4: Right?

527
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,039
Speaker 5: No, Joint chiefs of staff run ship, not not some

528
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,200
black guy that you used to work at raytheon.

529
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,039
Speaker 3: Rob Robert Gates was the Robert Gates head clout and

530
00:29:39,079 --> 00:29:41,319
that's why he stuck around. So but that's that's why

531
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:43,640
his example segrey defense. But yeah, at present it's it's

532
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,880
another Sydney here, but it varies. It's like criminology. Go ahead, Yeah,

533
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:47,680
I'm sorry, no.

534
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 5: Agree, I mean the people that actually conduct state craft.

535
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:56,519
I would say mister Ratcliffe is going to conduct far

536
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:58,880
more state craft than mister Rubio is ever going to.

537
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,680
And pretty much that's been de facto how the United

538
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,680
States does most of its foreign policies through its intelligence

539
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:11,160
agencies anyways, Right, D N I C I A army intelligence.

540
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:15,799
Speaker 3: I mean A D I A and N S A

541
00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:18,160
are kind of the guts of it. And but and

542
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,559
like all these like myriad contractors that have like murky authority.

543
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,200
I think cis been at Joe since the Church Committee.

544
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,000
But I know people like people like push it back

545
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:27,160
on me with that. I'm not you.

546
00:30:27,799 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 5: My friends have friends that are you know, got we're

547
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,599
part of the CIA, guys that got purged when Obama

548
00:30:33,759 --> 00:30:37,720
purged all the intelligence agencies and the UH. I mean

549
00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:39,799
some of them I've introduced to Pete and Jay have

550
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,720
been on the their shows, Like Larry Johnson has been

551
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:47,240
telling me that it's more Dilbert than James Bond and

552
00:30:47,359 --> 00:30:48,680
has been since the Church.

553
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:53,839
Speaker 3: Com Well, it's also the even it was attracting quality

554
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,319
people and still hit a mandate, that kind of massive

555
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,400
bureocracy where you got guys who are obviously intelligence operatives

556
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,720
under light definitely to cover. That's like a Cold War

557
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,519
thing that doesn't work like outside the paradigm.

558
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 5: You know, like it doesn't facial recognition exists.

559
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, when it's old. It's not like in the Cold War.

560
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:15,480
It was just like perverse paradigm. Or it's like Okay,

561
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:17,839
on the one hand, you know, we're gonna do everything

562
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,119
we can to like find a way to accomplish splund

563
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,000
it for a strike without also killing ourselves. But we're

564
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,720
gonna like openly admit we spy on you, Like our

565
00:31:25,759 --> 00:31:28,720
embassy in Hungary is gonna be full of CIA guys

566
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:31,000
for pretending not to be. But you know they are,

567
00:31:31,279 --> 00:31:34,119
like it, like bullshit, like that, like that's that doesn't

568
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,319
happen outside of that very narrow paradigm.

569
00:31:38,279 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 5: And so like one pick in particular, well, first of

570
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,960
just the picks in general, like Marco Rubio can't declare war.

571
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,200
He is an employee, right, and the fixture what is

572
00:31:50,319 --> 00:31:54,880
more important? Right? The only other person I thought, I

573
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,400
think Mitch McConnell would have been Secretary of State if

574
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,440
he wasn't already leaving, because they see the most important

575
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,480
thing happening is Marco Rubio not being in the Senate

576
00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:09,920
where he has legislative power. You took a powerful person

577
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:13,440
that has previously opposed your agenda several times over and

578
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:18,079
in fact de facto ran against you, and you removed

579
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,200
him from a place of power. Right, If you know

580
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:23,839
Mitch McConnell is gonna be leaving, that would have been

581
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,480
market Marco Rubio in that inmich mcconnal's seat.

582
00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: And now it's not no exactly what's also to So

583
00:32:30,319 --> 00:32:32,279
they're trying to emphasize the people, you know, like the

584
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,920
Ukraine War is done because there's not the money, there's

585
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,559
not the force isn't being They don't even talk about

586
00:32:38,599 --> 00:32:41,359
the Ratman and key of anymore because the optics are

587
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,559
so bad. I mean, it's like this idea like trump'snna

588
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:46,799
attack I ran, and then then he's gonna intervene and

589
00:32:47,119 --> 00:32:48,599
Yemen then he's gonna do this. It's like with what

590
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:52,079
like with who, like how is this gonna happen? You know,

591
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:54,799
like this isn't like people say the idea of that

592
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,640
America is like twenty feet tall. It's like unstoppable Juggernaut.

593
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:01,640
It's a it's a complete it's a complete ship show.

594
00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:07,000
And even even at at peak mobilization like during like

595
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,079
the surge, I guess in like two thousand and seven. Yeah,

596
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,400
like the army like nineteen the Army was like nineteen

597
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,200
US Army imagery. Men, we're going down a week kia

598
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:22,960
and that was like that was like taxing the army

599
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,880
was breaking point. But you're telling me like America is

600
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,319
gonna like assault Russia and take like a million casualties. Well,

601
00:33:29,319 --> 00:33:32,960
it's like attacking Iran across like an he clim or front,

602
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,000
while it's like intervening in the in Yemen. It's like

603
00:33:36,079 --> 00:33:38,200
what it's like, do you guys work for stratt for

604
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,519
or do you smoke crack? Or like where? How is it?

605
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:43,599
How in what universe? Is as possible? Even I Trump

606
00:33:43,759 --> 00:33:46,920
like decided he was gonna like take on that those

607
00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:48,279
imperatives for some reason?

608
00:33:48,839 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 5: Is your name Peter Zahan or Zion? Is that who

609
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:53,160
you are?

610
00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: Like some fag up like Max Explosion or something, and

611
00:33:57,599 --> 00:34:00,640
like works like strap, like We're gonna and then here

612
00:34:00,759 --> 00:34:02,599
and then I'm gonna I'm gonna get a brand new

613
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,680
Gerbil to shove up my ass and I'm gonna be

614
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,000
the king and it's gonna be great.

615
00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:11,079
Speaker 5: Literal faggots, not just figuratively. But yeah, I completely agree

616
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:11,480
with Thomas.

617
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,039
Speaker 6: I'm plugged into my generator now, so I'm fine. Power

618
00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:17,840
just keeps going on and out, off and on.

619
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, sorry about that. So look, you were talking

620
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:24,280
about this last week, we were talking about I don't

621
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,480
know how much of that you missed and how much

622
00:34:25,519 --> 00:34:27,840
that you heard. We're talking about Marco Rubio. He's one

623
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,280
of the people that's being decried by the left and

624
00:34:30,519 --> 00:34:33,760
the far right. But I mean, we think Trump's gonna

625
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,239
just walk all over this guy. And I think you

626
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,760
said that last week. The other guy that I put

627
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,079
with Rubio and like my two least favorite here are

628
00:34:40,199 --> 00:34:43,480
him and Mike Huckabee. I mean, do you think him

629
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:43,880
being the.

630
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:45,679
Speaker 3: What does it mean?

631
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:46,559
Speaker 4: Yeah?

632
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,199
Speaker 6: They were like all these people who are like, well,

633
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,119
you know, Huckabee loves Israel. I'm like, if you're gonna

634
00:34:53,119 --> 00:34:56,679
have an ambassador to a country you want them, it

635
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,519
would make sense for that person's actually like that country,

636
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,280
what are you gonna put Let's make Victoria Newellan the

637
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,800
ambassador to fucking Russia.

638
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah's work. It's the ultimate is the ultimate cinecure. And

639
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,039
also like he's like this dumb He'll believe he's gonna

640
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:15,480
like any of the leaker troll movies basically like idiot

641
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,840
Hubbily Like it's like saying, like, but you're like idiots

642
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,079
Hilberly cousin like at your house, Like that's saying the

643
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:23,480
And to.

644
00:35:23,559 --> 00:35:29,119
Speaker 6: Me, the only position that really means anything with Trump's

645
00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:31,480
mandate is attorney general and.

646
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,079
Speaker 2: Attorney Yeah, let's talk about there yet.

647
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, but attorney general doesn't mean anything unless Trump is

648
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,920
going to be an Article two executive because he's going

649
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:47,840
to have to I mean, right now I would say that.

650
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,559
I mean the next in line. He he appointed his

651
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,599
own lawyer, his personal lawyer, as deputy deputy Attorney general.

652
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,199
So if that guy slides in, I've looked I think

653
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,320
the stormy and I looked at his background. I mean,

654
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:04,440
he's worked for the oldest law firm. What the hell

655
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:05,800
is the name of that law firm up in Mets.

656
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:08,519
Speaker 5: We're talking about the one in here. We're talking about

657
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:10,480
a shit Soladon Cromwell.

658
00:36:10,639 --> 00:36:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he worked with dude in the tree training places

659
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,039
like could Duke Brothers Like.

660
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:18,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, wait, wait, who are you talking about? What is

661
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:19,119
his position?

662
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: Solodon Cromwell is John the Rock and Fellow law firm.

663
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 6: Uh going, people, I mean this guy is a I

664
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,639
mean like a hardcore heritage American, you know, seven like

665
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,079
lobby dude generation, and he just takes orders from Trump.

666
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,880
He's one of these guys who has like lived in

667
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,320
New York and has been registered a Democrat. And people

668
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,400
are like, oh, that guy's a registered Democrat. I'm like,

669
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:45,599
he lived in New York he's lived in New York

670
00:36:45,639 --> 00:36:48,159
for like fucking twenty five years. Everyone in New York

671
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,519
is a registered Democrat. Yeah, and you know a registered

672
00:36:51,559 --> 00:36:54,519
Democrat in New York in the nineteen seventies was like,

673
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,239
you know, would put a beat down on a black

674
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:58,840
dude who walked into their neighborhood.

675
00:36:59,039 --> 00:37:03,519
Speaker 5: No, exactly, exactly, Your Sullivan Cromwell is very important.

676
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 4: Uh.

677
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 5: Next we should go into who's going to be uh

678
00:37:08,599 --> 00:37:10,320
SDN Y out of SDN Y.

679
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:15,039
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, Jake Clayton as the as ahead of SDN

680
00:37:15,199 --> 00:37:18,719
Y is like, is huge because he's a guy who's

681
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:20,840
just going to be the policeman of Wall Street. He's

682
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:27,760
basically if if Powell has been working what the way

683
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,280
Luongo says to basically go to war with the City

684
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,760
of London. It's a manifest fact. Yeah, which is which

685
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,599
is a fact? I mean, this is why I say

686
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,800
pale Pale is I mean another one what eighth generation Virginian.

687
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:44,599
I mean, this is a heritage American. He's also the

688
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:48,079
first wasp, the first not a gentile to head the

689
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:49,079
FED in how long?

690
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 3: No academic, I when I when I when I've thrown

691
00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:56,760
shade on him. It's not I actually think he's doing

692
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,639
a precent job in the rule, especially I mean compared

693
00:37:59,679 --> 00:38:02,599
to some like fucking Bernaki or something. But he he's uh,

694
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,840
he's definitely like when of Trump's ops and he's making

695
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,599
that clear and that's not that's very unprofessional and it's

696
00:38:07,599 --> 00:38:09,880
really not appropriate to the role. That's what I meant.

697
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,360
That didn't mean like, oh, fuck this motherfucker. He's doing

698
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,679
a B and C and honestly like a quantitative easing bullshit,

699
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:16,800
he had nothing to do with it.

700
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, in fact, actually, let me talk a

701
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,599
little bit about FED policy. This is kind of my wheelhouse.

702
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:27,639
So we know, Janet Yellen is you know, someone who

703
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,400
Kamala Harris is not right. Her her thesis, her PhD

704
00:38:31,519 --> 00:38:35,000
thesis was in labor theory of economics, which is actual

705
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:38,639
Marxism instead of pretend Marxism, which conservatives do. Her husband

706
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,039
is the foremost Marxist economist, as if such a ludicrous

707
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:46,800
thing could exist in the world out of out of Berkeley.

708
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,280
So she's a legit commy. And the fact that she

709
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,320
spends all of her time running around the world trying

710
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:57,559
to undo whatever Powell does. So Powell does quantitative tightening

711
00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:02,079
all right. So Powell's been on quality quantitative tightening, reducing

712
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,159
the monetary supply. At the same time he's raising interest rates,

713
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,320
which is like he's reducing the monetary supply times to

714
00:39:10,639 --> 00:39:14,840
very very aggressively. She has to go run to Japan. Yeah,

715
00:39:15,199 --> 00:39:17,760
and she has to do yield curve control, which is

716
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,440
effectively undoing what Powell is doing. So her entire administration,

717
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,639
at her entire time at the Biden administration, has been

718
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,320
literally to try and stop or slow down everything that

719
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,639
this man is doing. So if you know, Janet Yellen

720
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,679
is your enemy, and she spends all of her time

721
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,840
trying to undo this guy's stuff. And when he's raising

722
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,599
interest rates, let's just think about like the people we hate,

723
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,840
if globalism is our op writ large. When the President

724
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,679
of the United Nations, Antonio Gutierrez or whatever that fagus

725
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,719
name is, gets in the middle of the United Nations

726
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:56,239
and says, holds a press conference and says, if we

727
00:39:56,519 --> 00:39:59,519
don't get the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates, there's

728
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:02,519
going to be a global financial collapse and there's gonna

729
00:40:02,519 --> 00:40:04,800
be world fan in which I think would be not bad.

730
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 6: And then.

731
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 4: Is doing the same thing. If we got to get this.

732
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 5: We gotta yeah, we gotta get We got to get

733
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:14,840
Jerome Powell to stop raising interest rates. Well, if Greta

734
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,280
Thumber doesn't like what Powell's doing, and the UN president

735
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,440
doesn't like what Powell's doing, and all of the fucking

736
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,960
world bankers are losing their minds, and all of the

737
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:29,159
IMF people are losing their fucking minds. I mean, so

738
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,559
Kamala Harris and John McCain high five on the Senate

739
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:39,519
floor after they filibustered his second appointment. Right, the Federal

740
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:44,800
Fed chairman has only openly criticized presidential policy once, which

741
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,800
was Johnson, and I can't remember who's his Fed chief, Right,

742
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:54,760
It'll keep going on, come no Powell and the next time.

743
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,320
So in sixty years now, seventy years now, the only

744
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,119
other time has been Jerome Powell with Joe Biden. He's

745
00:41:02,199 --> 00:41:06,280
actively been criticizing the Biden administration twice, and I think

746
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,360
got his bell rang a little bit because he suddenly stopped.

747
00:41:11,679 --> 00:41:16,199
So Jerome Powell has done more to end globalism, which

748
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:21,079
is the introduction of Sofer Thomas only running through a

749
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:24,119
brief thought experiment to get to what I'm talking about,

750
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:27,559
that we can do in like two seconds, so percent

751
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:34,000
of the monetary supply, so monetary supply is created through

752
00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:38,719
issuance of new debt, so that debt is issued offshore

753
00:41:39,639 --> 00:41:43,760
right by offshore banks. This is a relic of the

754
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:47,559
Marshall Plan that got hijacked and run entirely out of

755
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:51,039
control and taken over by literally all the worst people.

756
00:41:52,039 --> 00:41:57,079
And you know, these European private banks have basically had

757
00:41:57,159 --> 00:42:01,000
a basement money printer, which is which is the ability

758
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:05,159
to issue debt in dollars. Right, so, when they issue

759
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:09,119
debt and that debt is denominated in dollars, new dollars

760
00:42:09,159 --> 00:42:11,920
are printed. That used to be a very small amount.

761
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:14,920
Now it is ninety percent of the global monetary supply

762
00:42:15,039 --> 00:42:18,480
of dollars is printed by offshore banks. And it's not

763
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:21,639
index to the Federal Reserve Interest Rate R like it

764
00:42:21,679 --> 00:42:23,440
would be if it was in the United States. It's

765
00:42:23,519 --> 00:42:26,480
index to LIBOR. So if ninety percent of your money

766
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,519
is printed offshore by overseas by foreign banks, and all

767
00:42:32,639 --> 00:42:35,199
that money is indexed to an interest rate that's set

768
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:40,639
by lib OR, which is a council that US banks around, Yeah,

769
00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:43,679
who can charge your voluntary supply right right?

770
00:42:44,199 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 3: It was it was Martin, who was Johnson's Federal Reserve

771
00:42:49,039 --> 00:42:53,599
chiefs Martin, Yes, Martin. I mean I'm just saying, like

772
00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:58,079
people who the rebuttal of people would you know, like

773
00:42:58,159 --> 00:43:00,159
a lot of especially a lot of working people talk

774
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:02,599
about like inflation is crushing them. And then you get

775
00:43:02,639 --> 00:43:05,119
these guys, even guys who should know better, and saying like,

776
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,039
well that's perception and like okay, well what's causing this.

777
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,239
It's like, well, obviously what you just said, man, you know,

778
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:14,280
because I mean like yeah, yeah, and it's some and

779
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:14,599
it's a.

780
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:17,039
Speaker 5: Real and they fed guys are a fucking joke, Like

781
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:20,079
we finally get a guy in there that's doing the

782
00:43:20,199 --> 00:43:22,840
opposite of what everyone has done for the last ninety years,

783
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,000
and now you want to end the fucking fed you retard.

784
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,519
It's like they've same thing. You got a guy that's

785
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:32,000
doing something, and now you want to like fucking throw.

786
00:43:32,079 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 3: You know, legit. Two things. I'm I'm a Chumpeter guy

787
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:41,880
and like heterodox, I'm a hero doox economic uh thinker,

788
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,079
but i I'm not of Onnesian And I mean Schumpter's

789
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,199
point was you can't es central banking. You can make

790
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,239
it into like a Frankenstein if you want in your

791
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,239
conceptual model, but it's a reality, so it's not gonna

792
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,599
go away. So what are you gonna What are you

793
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:54,960
gonna do?

794
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 5: And that money is a technology, well yeah, it's gonna

795
00:43:58,880 --> 00:43:59,519
be used against you.

796
00:44:00,199 --> 00:44:03,199
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah. I mean it's also too there's nothing I mean,

797
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,360
the whole, the whole, like the whole idea, like fiat

798
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,840
money is not quae real. I mean that's returned too.

799
00:44:08,039 --> 00:44:11,880
But beyond that, you know, there's not if there's not

800
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:14,880
if other than FD I see, man, Like it's equivalent,

801
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,880
like there's not gonna be confidence in financial industruy.

802
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 5: Man.

803
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:21,199
Speaker 3: It's like no matter how strong the uh the capital

804
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,920
base they're tied to may be. So like there's not

805
00:44:24,039 --> 00:44:26,639
some alternative here where it's like, well, we can abolish

806
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,159
the FED. But people are still gonna people are still

807
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:32,320
gonna like accept bare paper, like you know, printed in

808
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,599
the United States, like at literal face value. Like people

809
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,280
say that they've got literally no understanding of like the

810
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,599
practice of economics.

811
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,679
Speaker 5: But no, I he's the same people that tell you

812
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:44,079
should tie the currency to gold and that'll stop inflation.

813
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:48,519
Speaker 3: Shiny rocks is real, but paper isn't. See shiny rocks

814
00:44:48,559 --> 00:44:49,679
are magically valuable.

815
00:44:50,039 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 4: Well that's the amazing thing, right, Inflation didn't exist before,

816
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,599
Richard stole point.

817
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, inflation never happened before, Like is before that all

818
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:04,199
my military uh uses word gold? So are we telling

819
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,599
people that inflation has never happened? Well, has happened before.

820
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:15,400
So you're telling me it once once a commodity is

821
00:45:15,559 --> 00:45:21,440
used as a currency, that it's it's still actually a commodity,

822
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,559
which would be an inflation hedge. No, that that's not true.

823
00:45:25,039 --> 00:45:27,760
When you take a commodity and use that commodity as money,

824
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,639
it no longer trades like a commodity an inflation hedge.

825
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:32,719
It trades like money.

826
00:45:33,639 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's what's all the too. The Great Depression

827
00:45:36,599 --> 00:45:38,920
was a deflationary spiral, and like a lot of these

828
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,800
guys won't even accept that, we like I supposedly on

829
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,239
the right door. No, no, no, it was like it

830
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,559
was like out of control inflation. You're an idiot. I'm like, Oh,

831
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:48,280
I don't think so, man. I've actually like I've actually

832
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,360
quoted this stuff and I've spent many many years with it.

833
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,159
I no economists, don't get me wrong, but I do

834
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,239
know something about macroeconomics. You know, don't don't tell me

835
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,599
I don't know what I'm talking about, because I don't.

836
00:45:58,960 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 5: I don't.

837
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: I don't accept that. You know, banking and infleetion caused

838
00:46:02,039 --> 00:46:07,360
the Great Depression, like banking failure caused the Great Depression, absolutely,

839
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:09,599
but it's like, why did that failure happen? You know,

840
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,639
maybe have something to do with the absence of a

841
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:17,599
central banking mechanism to guarantee monetary supply. Yeah, yeah, you know,

842
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,719
but it uh but no, what my second thing, my

843
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:26,559
second kind of subject of apologia. I don't think Paul

844
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,760
is like a bad guy in terms of this policy

845
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,000
or such that the FED determine that FED has policy.

846
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,360
Like my point was, he's obviously's spoiling for a fight

847
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,800
with Trump, and he he shood some reckless statement like

848
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:41,239
you know, I'm not going to resign and the president

849
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,800
can't fight or be It's like, man, don't do that,

850
00:46:44,119 --> 00:46:45,000
like it, you know.

851
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 5: I mean he said independence because there's a there's a

852
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,679
big question of whether the FED is actually independent from

853
00:46:55,119 --> 00:46:59,960
uh of the presidential administration. I think he I think

854
00:47:00,199 --> 00:47:04,719
basically no, no, I feel that and he could be impeached.

855
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,000
But Obviously that doesn't come from the White House, but

856
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,280
the I, I just especially when in coming minutes strange,

857
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,320
and he should be doing everything he can to make

858
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,199
an ice of Trump, at least publicly and frankly privately too,

859
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,280
because to your point, you know, he and Trump would

860
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,599
probably be very much like Day one of Homies if

861
00:47:24,679 --> 00:47:28,159
it wasn't for you know, this kind of toxic media

862
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,440
environment that is surrounding this entire affair.

863
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:37,159
Speaker 3: And that's all. I didn't mean to talk too much, Powell.

864
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,559
Speaker 5: That introduced probably the most significant thing that's ever happened

865
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:44,079
to America financially in the last one hundred years, called

866
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:47,119
the secure overnight funding rate. All right, they tried to

867
00:47:47,159 --> 00:47:50,920
push it through it under Obama. Obama killed it, and

868
00:47:51,079 --> 00:47:55,480
it'll probably be Trump's greatest legacy, but a few people

869
00:47:55,599 --> 00:47:57,599
even know it exists. So remember how I talked about

870
00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:02,440
whybor and being accept by you know, foreign banks, twenty

871
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,559
of them with no US bank on the board. So

872
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:11,400
FUR is Library's replacement, and unlike the Library's, the is

873
00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:16,840
the the overnight funding rate, but it's an unsecured, uncollateralized

874
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,320
funding rate. So SOFUR is a secure overnight funding rate,

875
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:24,960
and it's basically only the five US prime banks. And

876
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:31,960
when investors have a difference between unsecure overnight funding rate

877
00:48:32,199 --> 00:48:36,320
and secure overnight funding rate, yeah, it's it's not a

878
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:38,480
it's not really a choice you're going to go with

879
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:42,280
this one. And we've been basically draining the world of

880
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,400
capital for the last four or five or since twenty

881
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,760
twenty three. When it came into effect, it was pretty honny.

882
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: Germany refusing the investment derivatives like TI their uh like

883
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,360
tier financial system to lost feet the revet its like

884
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,360
that was like a huge like obstacle to what to

885
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,280
what these people wanted to accomplish. Man.

886
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that and when I say, like Trump policies,

887
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,400
that looks and it looks more like Frederick List than Nieces.

888
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,119
Speaker 3: Yeah. And that's and that's one of the things I

889
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,679
like about Trump. And that's why I'm a Schumpeter guy. Man,

890
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,639
And I try and turn like the young bloods onto

891
00:49:16,639 --> 00:49:20,760
show a like business cycles is a huge undertaking. It's

892
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,920
like it's basically like it's it's like trying to sit

893
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,679
down and read like dost capitol cover to cover. I mean,

894
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:29,480
obviously this capital is garbage and business cycle isn't business

895
00:49:29,559 --> 00:49:31,800
cycle isn't. But it's also like there were that and

896
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,559
Burray Rothbard's the Great Depression. That's like they're rebuttal the

897
00:49:35,639 --> 00:49:39,159
keys like in academic terms, and and then no, that's

898
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:41,760
the kind of stuff that's realistic, you know, v Mesi

899
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,960
and stuff. It's if you if you didn't like von

900
00:49:44,119 --> 00:49:48,599
Mesi and ship and hyakas like a thought experiment, that's fine.

901
00:49:48,639 --> 00:49:50,519
I spend a lot of time with like abstract stuff,

902
00:49:50,679 --> 00:49:53,039
but don't act like this is like your model for policy.

903
00:49:53,159 --> 00:49:53,880
That's ridiculous.

904
00:49:54,639 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 5: That's a really good point to touch on what Thomas says, everyone,

905
00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:03,239
all right, economics is not real. It's not a real thing. Right.

906
00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:09,880
Economics presupposes that financial transactions and economic transactions exist in

907
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,920
a vacuum, right, And there's nothing inside that vacuum except

908
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,840
for individuals that are either buying and selling, one trying

909
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,599
to get the most the highest price for his goods

910
00:50:22,639 --> 00:50:26,079
and the other to extract the most value from his purchase.

911
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,519
And it is only these logical decisions in buying and

912
00:50:29,639 --> 00:50:34,280
selling and transacting that exists inside this vacuum called economics. Right,

913
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,559
No one is operating from any other you know, intent,

914
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:44,920
or from any other paradigm then value create, value acquisition

915
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:50,239
and price discovery. That's not real, that doesn't exist, right,

916
00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:59,000
So if that existed, right, would Vladimir Putin? Would his

917
00:50:59,159 --> 00:51:06,119
oil policy be influenced more by price discovery or the

918
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:11,760
strategic and geopolitical imperatives of the Russian state of the

919
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,880
Russian state. Okay, so I guess there's more inside this vacuum,

920
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:20,199
which means this vacuum isn't real, right, mean, see in economics,

921
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,639
rock Party in economics, like, none of this shit is real, right,

922
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:29,000
geopolitical and geostrategic comparatives exist, and they're far more of

923
00:51:29,039 --> 00:51:34,039
a motivator for what people do at a global scale

924
00:51:34,119 --> 00:51:36,559
than anything else. So if anybody tries to give you

925
00:51:36,679 --> 00:51:41,119
some libertarian economics fucking bullshit or some reason about why

926
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:43,320
this guy is bad or why this other guy is

927
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,760
bad because they don't do this and something something, you know,

928
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:53,119
all that libertarianism shit is actually just not real, right.

929
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:57,280
It's policy that is using economics as like a cover

930
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,079
for liberalism. Economics isn't real.

931
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 6: Sorry, go ahead, well globalism it's using it is a

932
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:09,760
cover for globalism. That is exactly right because, as as

933
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,960
Lists pointed out, and I think it's his second letter

934
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:16,719
about the American economy. You know, he just does some

935
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,119
basic I think it's his first letter. He does some

936
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:24,559
basic basic economics. Okay, there's three economic models. There's a personal,

937
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,840
there's a national, and there's the global. And he had

938
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,559
already seen this with Portugal giving up their wine production

939
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,360
to England. England at this time was becoming England was

940
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,360
becoming to Europe like China is to the United States

941
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:42,800
and to other countries at this point. And what he

942
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,559
said was, you can have two, but you can't have three.

943
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,280
You can have two, but you can't have three. If

944
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,599
the individual is always going to exist, that's the given.

945
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:54,639
So if you choose to have a global economy, the

946
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,760
national economy disappears. If you could choose to have a

947
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,559
national economy, the global economy disappears. And what we're seeing

948
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:07,039
now is especially since the nineteen eighties, when you know,

949
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:09,599
Harvard Business School was teaching well, you know, just send

950
00:53:09,639 --> 00:53:14,000
your just send your manufacturing to China. It'll be cheaper

951
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:17,559
even with the transportation back by See, what you're seeing

952
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:21,400
is you've seen that our national economy is gone. There's

953
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,920
there's nothing here. And what you're what the attempt is

954
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:29,719
to bring it back by embracing more of a kind

955
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:36,679
of Listyan a Listian framework is to bring manufacturing home

956
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,519
and to if you want to do business, if you're

957
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:42,400
a global corporation that wants to do business in the

958
00:53:42,519 --> 00:53:45,480
United States, well you better set up shop here if

959
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:47,800
you don't want to have to deal with tariffs. And

960
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,880
if you don't and if you don't want to set

961
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,599
up a shop here, you're going to have to deal

962
00:53:52,639 --> 00:53:54,679
with tariffs, You're going to have to pay for it.

963
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,800
That's the way you save and that that's the way

964
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,519
you protect a national economy and people. And what basically

965
00:54:02,599 --> 00:54:06,320
what the whole libertarian thing is is that, well, we've

966
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,239
seen the way that operates and that doesn't want You've

967
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,440
been fighting against it for one hundred fucking years. You've

968
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,800
been you've been trying to convince people that the free

969
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:18,800
market and lays fair and global economy and a free

970
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:21,679
market on labor coming from all over the fucking world

971
00:54:22,159 --> 00:54:25,599
is the way to go. And nobody's going to adopt

972
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,239
you perfectly. But what they're going to do is they're

973
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,639
going to take what you're talking about, do a bastardized,

974
00:54:31,119 --> 00:54:34,599
bastardized version of it, and they're going to create this

975
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,559
kind of globalism. Because one of the things that I

976
00:54:38,679 --> 00:54:40,559
was talking to Luongo on the phone the other day,

977
00:54:41,079 --> 00:54:42,800
and he was taught. He said he went to he

978
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,639
went to the mesa's conference and he talked about if

979
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:48,719
you get rid of the FED right now, you're basically

980
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,679
going to kill the country's dead, because everyone around the

981
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,079
world is you have bricks coming out with their own

982
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:59,840
kind of currency. You have somebody right now at the

983
00:55:00,039 --> 00:55:04,840
FED who is fighting Zionism. The only people who may

984
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:10,639
be fighting Zionism more on a more competent level are

985
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,920
Hesbla and Hamas and all all the people actually fighting

986
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,800
at shooting and lobbing missiles over there.

987
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:22,079
Speaker 5: Collaborate on that bit, Pete, because I think it's important,

988
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:23,559
and I know you just talked to Tom Lolongo, so

989
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:26,159
you're gonna have it better than me, right with that

990
00:55:26,199 --> 00:55:26,639
for a little bit.

991
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:30,559
Speaker 6: What What has what is Jerome pals? What has his

992
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:35,280
main focus to destroy? Ben the city of London and

993
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,320
all these European oligarchs, The Jewish city of London, the

994
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:41,639
thousand year old Jewish city of London. That's that one

995
00:55:41,679 --> 00:55:44,119
square mile in the middle of London where all the

996
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,840
banks are where all the dirty money in the world

997
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,440
goes through, and the other European oligarchs. By everything that

998
00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:53,719
he's been doing for the last three years, he's been

999
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,480
fighting that and he's been winning. I mean, they're going

1000
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:59,480
and buying money. They're they're going and buying bonds that

1001
00:55:59,599 --> 00:56:04,320
friggin China is selling through like Saint Kits and places.

1002
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,880
Just they're fucking grabbing money from malay They're grabbing all

1003
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:12,079
the gold from Argentina down from Malaysia.

1004
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 5: They have to backstop the derivatives.

1005
00:56:14,159 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 6: Because they have to backstop the derivatives. And why do

1006
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:20,920
they have to backstop the derivatives Because because because Powell

1007
00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:25,599
has weakened them so much by just disintegrating libor and

1008
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,000
bringing it into the United States and putting so far

1009
00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:32,719
in Chicago and basically bringing home a national economy. And

1010
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,320
these fucking libertarians are like, oh, we need to end

1011
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,119
the FED right now, because if we end the FED,

1012
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,880
you know, then we'll have what what are we going

1013
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:39,079
to have?

1014
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, you're encounter signaling Trump since every beginning, and

1015
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:44,880
you think Trump is now your ticket to go.

1016
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:45,519
Speaker 6: Hold on that.

1017
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,679
Speaker 2: I need you guys to clarify something I just read

1018
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:53,639
that Trump's gonna let jerom Pal's tenure finish, like his

1019
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,360
term finished. So so going anywhere?

1020
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,599
Speaker 5: What's no, He's not.

1021
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: I was under the es He's not going anywhere.

1022
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, have been counter signaling everything that Trump has ever done,

1023
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,599
and now they're trying to take his win as their

1024
00:57:10,679 --> 00:57:12,760
win and trying to push a narrative.

1025
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 3: Two things about the Libertarians. One interestingly, Uh, my my

1026
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,599
homie Anthony Ramondo. He's a great dude, Like he took

1027
00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:22,320
us to he took me and him a dinner at

1028
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,480
this awesome steakhouse in Portland. But you know, he's a lawyer.

1029
00:57:25,719 --> 00:57:29,159
He's got a very he's got a very valuable practice.

1030
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:32,400
But he he was at the front lines of basically

1031
00:57:32,519 --> 00:57:37,360
representing small business during the COVID bullshit, and uh, basically

1032
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:41,440
he approached like the von Mesians and like the Oregon Libertarians,

1033
00:57:41,519 --> 00:57:43,519
like basically for help, and he kind of publicized what

1034
00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:46,199
was going on like they wouldn't fucking touch it. And

1035
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,440
he's like, you know what he's like, you know what

1036
00:57:47,559 --> 00:57:50,119
libertarianism is. He's like, it's a bunch of it's he's

1037
00:57:50,159 --> 00:57:53,000
like nerdy guys working shitty jobs, like looking for a

1038
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:55,920
way to like basically like they're just like rent seeking

1039
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,159
to basically be like libertarians, they're like constantly like on

1040
00:57:59,239 --> 00:58:02,400
the hustle for money. If what push comes to show,

1041
00:58:02,599 --> 00:58:05,239
they won't do ship as like an actual pack. They

1042
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,360
won't do ship in terms of trying to like raise

1043
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,599
money for like a legal defense or some guy who's

1044
00:58:09,639 --> 00:58:12,360
like business got crushed by like you know, some some

1045
00:58:12,519 --> 00:58:16,199
make believe like like like public health crisis mandate. They're

1046
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:20,480
they're complete fucking scammers and drifters. But it's also even

1047
00:58:20,519 --> 00:58:24,599
those that aren't, you know, libertarians. One of the reasons

1048
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:26,880
I'm a big burner sombard guy, and I'm sure like

1049
00:58:27,039 --> 00:58:29,280
right wing people at least in America get on my

1050
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,119
ass because like they go, that's socialism. But you know,

1051
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:36,280
Sombart is so important because he's like economics and politics

1052
00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:40,920
aren't discrete. They're not psychologically discreet, and they're not discrete

1053
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,559
in terms of practice when the ever means to it's

1054
00:58:43,599 --> 00:58:46,440
a modality of politics. This is a modality of warfare.

1055
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,400
This idea like, oh, the problem is structural and it's

1056
00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:52,079
the FED. It's like there's not there's not something like

1057
00:58:52,159 --> 00:58:56,360
intrinsically evil about banking or there's not something like intrinsically

1058
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:01,280
deleterious to the financial system, you know about like a

1059
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,440
federally abou about like federally guaranteeing like barer paper, Like

1060
00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:08,559
maybe it's not like not optimal, but this idea.

1061
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 5: That fed, the FED just monetizes debt. Who yeah, the debt.

1062
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, well he's the same guys. It's like a cult.

1063
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,880
It's like it's like shiny rocks are real, but Fiat

1064
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:23,800
currency is not real, like it, you know, I know,

1065
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,280
they they try like people like people like what's his name,

1066
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:30,920
like like, uh economy, like one of those guys. He's

1067
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:32,840
kind of faded, but he was, uh he was this

1068
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,760
big foil to like the mad money guy. He was

1069
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,239
a big libertarian. But he's always saying the like, well,

1070
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:39,719
you know, you can't arbitrarily set interest rates on gold.

1071
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,199
I'm like why, like what why can't you? Like that

1072
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,199
doesn't make any sense. But it's like an article of

1073
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:48,599
faith that like something that's something about specie you know,

1074
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:53,239
is like resistant to uh, you know, manipulation at policy level.

1075
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,679
But any guys, they're kind of be aquot one of these,

1076
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:58,960
like I mean, speaking of Mirrorshamer I'm going somewhere with this.

1077
00:59:59,079 --> 01:00:01,760
I'm not just being scared sence. You know, he's another

1078
01:00:02,199 --> 01:00:04,199
like on the on the on the power political side,

1079
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,960
and and you know, everything is structural. It's like this

1080
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:10,880
big cop out, you know, like, oh, we can get

1081
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:15,199
around you know, controversy and and and being targeted by

1082
01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:18,159
our ops for censorship. We just pretend everything's a structural

1083
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,599
feature of of the market, or of or of or

1084
01:00:21,639 --> 01:00:25,440
of geostrategic or of the geopolitical map, you know, and

1085
01:00:25,519 --> 01:00:28,159
it's really it's like it's one part like stupid on purpose.

1086
01:00:28,239 --> 01:00:31,480
It's one part like intellectual parities, you know. So that's

1087
01:00:31,519 --> 01:00:33,280
one of the reasons. You know. And don't get me wrong,

1088
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:34,880
I'm sure there's like decent guys that come out of

1089
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:38,400
the von Nisus Institute. But but basically, like those guys

1090
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,000
are clowns, and like when they're they're they basically always

1091
01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:45,159
take the politically correct path. So they're not countersignaling Trump.

1092
01:00:45,559 --> 01:00:49,039
They're saying like, oh, don't don't make waves about you know, COVID,

1093
01:00:49,199 --> 01:00:52,199
and you know, blah blah blah. Like they're they're like, yeah,

1094
01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:57,559
they're less than useless man, Like you know, they're uh yeah,

1095
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,920
I mean that's all. It was his eye opening because Anthony,

1096
01:01:00,119 --> 01:01:03,199
like I said, man, he was uh, he's like, you know, look,

1097
01:01:03,199 --> 01:01:05,079
he's like, at least thought these guys would be good for,

1098
01:01:05,519 --> 01:01:07,480
you know, like helping some of these people pay in

1099
01:01:07,559 --> 01:01:09,960
destitution at least like mount of legal defense. But he's like,

1100
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:11,800
there worklet's even for that. They're like a bunch of

1101
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,440
motherfuckers like looking for ways to go on vacation by

1102
01:01:14,519 --> 01:01:18,280
like grifting people in rosmices of political activism. You know,

1103
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,119
so I I they've all a profound disdain for them.

1104
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 6: Now, I've known Anthony Romando since uh since COVID.

1105
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, he speaks really highly you man.

1106
01:01:27,239 --> 01:01:30,519
Speaker 6: Thanks. Yeah, he was heroic, you know, he was out

1107
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:35,039
there keeping people's businesses open and doing it at I mean,

1108
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,760
they were trying to just they tried to just them.

1109
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,320
Oh yeah, they tried to just bar him. And he

1110
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,840
went to the Libertarians and he said, you know, tell me,

1111
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,840
tell me. It was like he was doing this in

1112
01:01:47,039 --> 01:01:51,599
La tell me, just point me to a business that

1113
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,519
is under siege and everything like that. And they'd be

1114
01:01:54,639 --> 01:01:56,639
like and they point him to something that was like

1115
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,239
like happened yesterday that it was it was there was

1116
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,400
no They wanted to scream about it, and they wanted

1117
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:08,880
to draw as much attention to themselves about it as possible,

1118
01:02:09,159 --> 01:02:11,320
but it didn't really seem like there was this bit

1119
01:02:11,559 --> 01:02:13,960
like they wanted to help. And then when it came

1120
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:18,760
around time in twenty twenty one, when DeSantis was like,

1121
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,199
no private business can force somebody to have a vaccine

1122
01:02:23,239 --> 01:02:27,320
passport to come in or to work there, Libertarians lost

1123
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,519
their fucking minds because oh, the government shouldn't be able

1124
01:02:31,559 --> 01:02:34,360
to tell what private business was. Now, fuck you, yeah,

1125
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,519
they should be able to tell private business. What if

1126
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:39,000
somebody lives What if somebody lives in a place where, like,

1127
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:42,400
you know, I live in a town that has one supermarket, Okay,

1128
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:45,519
what if that one and I can't travel? What if

1129
01:02:45,559 --> 01:02:47,719
that one supermarket says no, I can't come in? All right,

1130
01:02:47,719 --> 01:02:50,199
what the fuck do I do? That is the job

1131
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,159
of the state, you know, that would be a job

1132
01:02:52,239 --> 01:02:53,800
of the states to come in and go. Now, you

1133
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:56,760
can't bar that person from eating. The fuck is wrong

1134
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,599
with you? And Libertarians coming all down on my ass

1135
01:02:59,679 --> 01:03:02,599
over there, and I'm like, fuck you no, they're the.

1136
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:05,559
Speaker 3: Regime there, the regime oil pussys who try and strike

1137
01:03:05,639 --> 01:03:09,880
a protest pose No, an it was disgusting too, Like Anthony,

1138
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,199
I saw receipts on this, Like the state's attorney they're

1139
01:03:13,199 --> 01:03:16,079
trying Tom just barred like Anthony. I mean, honestly, Anthony's

1140
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:18,920
a paison. He was claiming, yes, quote mafia t high.

1141
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,719
He's like basically slandering the dude on like ethnic grounds.

1142
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,679
I mean it's like, what the fuck is that? You

1143
01:03:23,719 --> 01:03:25,920
know what I mean? Like it they were like having

1144
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,639
people like harass his family. I mean, he fought back,

1145
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:32,280
he got the state's attorney sanctioned and like basically like

1146
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,719
ruined the guy's career, which made me happy, but uh

1147
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,880
point being like it's they they targeted Anthony for destruction

1148
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:43,000
for sticking up like literally sticking up for the little guy,

1149
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:45,480
which opposed libertarians all about. And yeah, not only did

1150
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:48,519
they not help, they tried to actively sabotage it because

1151
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:49,119
it's a grift.

1152
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,440
Speaker 6: They don't give got the little guy. They give a

1153
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,840
fuck about the corporation. And if you if you levy

1154
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,719
sanctions on them saying that they they're not allowed to

1155
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,480
bar people from there, It's like, what what the fuck

1156
01:04:01,519 --> 01:04:04,159
are you even taughbout you? So you're saying that they like,

1157
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,360
you're backing up this corporation. That's like saying I don't

1158
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,440
want people's business. Isn't that like totally against your model?

1159
01:04:10,599 --> 01:04:13,960
Oh No, it's voluntary on their part. It's voluntary that

1160
01:04:14,039 --> 01:04:17,960
they want that they would choose to use these vaccine passports. Yeah,

1161
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,000
because they came up with the idea for the vaccine

1162
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,440
passports on their own. It wasn't like the state who

1163
01:04:22,519 --> 01:04:25,119
came up with with this and was fucking forcing it

1164
01:04:25,239 --> 01:04:25,880
upon people.

1165
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 3: Now, fuck you, man, No, one of the one of

1166
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:31,559
the reasons, Uh, I'm not thinking about me like I

1167
01:04:31,599 --> 01:04:33,679
don't matter, but I one of the reasons I got

1168
01:04:33,719 --> 01:04:36,760
in front a stop in my phony background and shit,

1169
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,159
And first of all, you should be honest about that

1170
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,239
kind of thing anyway. But a bunch of people thought

1171
01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:44,719
they were like boxing me, like right when I got

1172
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,239
active again, like four years ago, and it was some

1173
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,639
of the usual suspects. I mean, I don't need to

1174
01:04:50,719 --> 01:04:52,239
name to know who they are. But then it was

1175
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,840
a bunch of these like libertarian guys, and their whole

1176
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,360
thing was like racism is no place on the right,

1177
01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:58,559
and like, first of all, it's like, why why am

1178
01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:02,599
I quote unquote like racist. I don't really okay whatever

1179
01:05:02,679 --> 01:05:04,599
I mean, not not that that's a meaningless term, but

1180
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:07,199
I thought that was a weird. It's I mean, okay,

1181
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,039
I don't usually get hit with dad. It's usually the

1182
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,639
anti Semitic or something. But it was these guys who's

1183
01:05:12,639 --> 01:05:15,440
supposed to like, oh, well, this is a critical issue

1184
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,719
because people cast us as in this bad light and

1185
01:05:19,079 --> 01:05:20,800
it's like I've don'thing to do with you, and like

1186
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,119
why would you care anyway? Like what does even mean?

1187
01:05:23,239 --> 01:05:25,320
But it's like, so these guys are going out of

1188
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,800
their way to try and I hate you it will

1189
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,079
figure out a way to make you a felon well

1190
01:05:30,199 --> 01:05:32,000
no huner, And it's like why would they care about

1191
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:33,920
somebody like me anyway? I'm not even like in their

1192
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,360
program or in their like sphere of activity. But then

1193
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,599
it's like a lot of these guys there, it's like

1194
01:05:39,679 --> 01:05:43,880
Pete said, they're like they're literally corporate shills or they're

1195
01:05:44,119 --> 01:05:47,280
just like bums like Anthony pointed out, But the guys

1196
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,679
are the former. It's kind of like their job to

1197
01:05:50,199 --> 01:05:53,320
like murk people who are like politically incorrect in their review,

1198
01:05:53,719 --> 01:05:55,360
Like they're really really toxic people.

1199
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 5: Man, that's intellectual, fucking cold desact too. But like the

1200
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,519
whole Felm thing pisses me off because like, if you're

1201
01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:06,039
actually doing anything, all you have to do is go

1202
01:06:06,199 --> 01:06:11,239
back into the history of America's domestic intelligence and law

1203
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,800
enforcement apparatus and know that if you're pushing back against

1204
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,559
the regime in any way, they will try and do whatever,

1205
01:06:18,719 --> 01:06:21,960
whether it's planting stuff like if they're a mark of

1206
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,960
if the mark of like elany or arrests or anything

1207
01:06:26,039 --> 01:06:29,440
like that. And then to be clear in my fucking game, no, no,

1208
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:29,920
And to.

1209
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:31,519
Speaker 3: Be clear, in my case, it was like one hundred

1210
01:06:31,519 --> 01:06:34,039
percent of my fault, Okay, like I wasn't like targeted

1211
01:06:34,199 --> 01:06:37,320
maliciously and I was like doing very wrong things.

1212
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:41,000
Speaker 5: But it can't be a precedent because that's got to stop.

1213
01:06:41,039 --> 01:06:41,719
It's gonna get worse.

1214
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,639
Speaker 3: Oh no, I agree there percent, But it's like I

1215
01:06:43,719 --> 01:06:45,360
got I got in front of that stuff because I

1216
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,000
don't lie about things. But but my point is that

1217
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,360
I was taken aback. I'm like, why do these guys

1218
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,639
even care about me? And then to begain clear, there's

1219
01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:55,639
like a pattern here, man, you know, like that's because

1220
01:06:55,639 --> 01:06:57,280
that's like part of their job. And that's one of

1221
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,039
the reasons why. I mean I realized now they're just

1222
01:06:59,079 --> 01:07:00,880
like a much of a locow. But for like the

1223
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,159
longest time, like especially through like the Clinton nineties, they

1224
01:07:04,199 --> 01:07:07,079
were like, Okay, these are like the like official opposition

1225
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:09,800
within like you know what passes for the right. It's like,

1226
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:12,039
this is like the politically correct opposition, and they're like

1227
01:07:12,039 --> 01:07:15,119
they're like the Washington generals. They never like they're they're

1228
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,880
just like these these these freaking nobodies who are kind

1229
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:20,639
of like there to get you know, to play like

1230
01:07:20,719 --> 01:07:23,840
a role. But but yeah, they're they're really bad guys.

1231
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,199
Like they're not They're not just like benign losers. They're

1232
01:07:26,239 --> 01:07:28,360
like assholes who try and like fuck people up. I

1233
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:29,159
guess this is my point.

1234
01:07:29,639 --> 01:07:32,119
Speaker 4: Well, and to bring this back to you know, the

1235
01:07:32,199 --> 01:07:35,599
so called neocons, right, this is something we've seen them

1236
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:40,000
do again and again, right same Sam Francis got canceled

1237
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:44,440
by people on the alleged right yep. And so this

1238
01:07:44,599 --> 01:07:47,000
is something I've been talking about, you know, the five

1239
01:07:47,079 --> 01:07:49,639
of us have been talking about kind of behind the scenes,

1240
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:53,239
is you know, what is the next stage for us?

1241
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,880
You know, I think that the the era of you know,

1242
01:07:57,039 --> 01:07:59,880
s jaw destroyed, you know, just kind of like endlessly

1243
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,280
making fun of the online left is probably coming to

1244
01:08:03,360 --> 01:08:05,840
an end, and that stuff was tired for a while,

1245
01:08:06,079 --> 01:08:08,760
like it has been tired for maybe four years now.

1246
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:10,920
But I think at this point, you know, the left

1247
01:08:11,039 --> 01:08:13,960
is not completely broken, but you know, there's not much

1248
01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:17,960
to say to them anymore, you know, yeah, yeah, exactly.

1249
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,840
But you know what you've seen is this scramble to

1250
01:08:22,079 --> 01:08:26,000
take credit for Trump's win, right, And you know, it's

1251
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:30,600
kind of like opening opening fight between us, our friends

1252
01:08:31,119 --> 01:08:33,039
and then the people who refer to us by the

1253
01:08:33,119 --> 01:08:36,600
derogative quote unquote woke woke right, which is a retarded

1254
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,800
term we don't need to get into. But I think

1255
01:08:38,840 --> 01:08:41,600
that's really going to be the that's going to be

1256
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:44,520
the front of this upcoming war. And so you know,

1257
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:46,840
you're talking about the degree to which you know, even

1258
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:50,119
you know, many libertarians have gotten completely you know, psyoped

1259
01:08:50,159 --> 01:08:54,319
and are willing to you know, treat us as enemies, right,

1260
01:08:54,399 --> 01:08:58,039
are willing to you know, try and get us, you know,

1261
01:08:58,199 --> 01:09:01,199
under law enforcement pressure or whatever. Well that's certainly true

1262
01:09:01,239 --> 01:09:03,159
of them, But to the you know, the kosher right,

1263
01:09:03,239 --> 01:09:06,199
whatever you want to call them. They're much more explicit

1264
01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:08,520
about that fact. I mean, you know, you have people

1265
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,479
like you know, James Lindsay and Michael O'Fallon, who you

1266
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:14,520
know are are sort of continually interesting to me, who

1267
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,399
are very very explicit about that fact. They are hunting

1268
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:21,600
for fascists, and they want to present themselves and Trump's

1269
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,880
win as a win for this kind of like race

1270
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:28,640
blind nineties conservatism totally.

1271
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 3: Back, like Strauss, Allen Bloom. That's why I raised that

1272
01:09:32,079 --> 01:09:34,199
at the start. I wasn't trying to be pedantic, but

1273
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:36,760
that's here guy's point, Like you were mentioning before we

1274
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:39,399
went live, like is Neio conserved them still a thing?

1275
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,880
Like it's not a thing in policy terms for the

1276
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:46,079
reasons we explicated, but in philosophical terms, it absolutely is.

1277
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:49,079
And like this is the way these guys think, like

1278
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:52,840
they're they're they're anti fascists through like as an ideology.

1279
01:09:53,239 --> 01:09:55,880
They're into this like weird kind of past speech. It's

1280
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,119
like Alan Bloom, Strauss, and it's also it literally is

1281
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:01,039
like we're binning ju if you guys want to look

1282
01:10:01,079 --> 01:10:03,880
for that connection their whole notion and you read Straus

1283
01:10:04,039 --> 01:10:06,680
and Bloom, what's like kind of interstitial to like the

1284
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,479
kind of deliberately esoteric kind of you know kind of

1285
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:14,960
narrative is like, oh well, what's wrong with not just

1286
01:10:15,039 --> 01:10:17,239
the Roman Church, but you know these Calvinists and luther

1287
01:10:17,359 --> 01:10:20,439
Raians is God is invisible, Like we know that there's

1288
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,840
a living God and he needs us to kind of

1289
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:25,359
implement his will and and bring, you know, make the

1290
01:10:25,399 --> 01:10:28,640
world a just place by like elimitting this ignorance that

1291
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:30,880
is people thinking they have a race, or like people

1292
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,640
thinking that you know, not everybody is equal. Like it

1293
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,439
really is really really insidious, and it's very very much

1294
01:10:36,479 --> 01:10:40,680
a political theology, and it's it's literally like meeting lotually anti.

1295
01:10:40,560 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 4: Finish in.

1296
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:09,359
Speaker 3: Real quick.

1297
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 5: I wanted to drop this earlier when we were trying

1298
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:17,239
to when we were defining neo conservatism. But there's a

1299
01:12:17,399 --> 01:12:21,439
famous quote by Bobby Fisher that I'd like to replace

1300
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:24,880
one word with another if everyone would indulge me. My

1301
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,560
basic thesis is that Jews are a criminal people, and

1302
01:12:28,119 --> 01:12:31,840
they completely controlled the United States and they are using

1303
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:35,239
the United States as a vehicle to take over the world. Now,

1304
01:12:35,279 --> 01:12:37,600
if we were to repeat that exact same thing with

1305
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,640
my basic thesis is that Jews are criminal people and

1306
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:45,399
they've completely controlled United States and they are using the

1307
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,399
United States as a vehicle to spread democracy all over

1308
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,319
the world. You have neo conservatism.

1309
01:12:51,159 --> 01:12:53,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't disagree. I don't disagree.

1310
01:12:53,279 --> 01:12:56,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's a section on our side of Twitter

1311
01:12:57,439 --> 01:13:03,680
that is obviously and you saw it after October seventh,

1312
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:07,920
anyone who all of a sudden, all these protests started

1313
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:12,000
happening on campuses and anyone who was against Israel and

1314
01:13:12,399 --> 01:13:15,239
was like, you know, saying well, I mean, what did

1315
01:13:15,279 --> 01:13:17,399
you expect to happen. You've been doing this to these

1316
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,600
people for you know, for almost one hundred years now,

1317
01:13:21,079 --> 01:13:24,279
so what did you expect to happen? And these people

1318
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:28,039
immediately started going, oh, well, you know, you you're basically

1319
01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:32,960
your third worldists, and you're you know, if you if

1320
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,359
you have any if you look upon anyone in Gaza

1321
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,600
as as a as a victim, you're you're a third worldist,

1322
01:13:40,760 --> 01:13:43,399
and you know you shouldn't be going against the Zionists.

1323
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:47,720
And then Trump wins, and the same people you will

1324
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:51,760
see sweets saying well, you know the way it is

1325
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:54,760
right now, if you want to have any political clout,

1326
01:13:55,319 --> 01:13:57,960
you're going to have to be pro Zionist.

1327
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 2: And it's like and those people want to claim this

1328
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,199
is their win as well. They're trying to say they

1329
01:14:03,359 --> 01:14:03,600
did this.

1330
01:14:04,359 --> 01:14:06,520
Speaker 3: Well, that's also why I was telling like one of

1331
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,680
our one of our people, so I got like they

1332
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,000
had respect for I was talking to him and in

1333
01:14:11,159 --> 01:14:14,840
Burden's chat and I was telling him, it's insidious that

1334
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,880
all these idiots, whether it's like cerna bitch, whether it's

1335
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:21,199
like that like Dan Bilzerian idiot, it's not just insidious

1336
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:23,880
that these like literally metally retarded like bro guys or

1337
01:14:23,880 --> 01:14:25,720
something like oh no, I'm like right wing bro and

1338
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,399
like it's real bad bro. I'm like these guys are

1339
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:33,760
trying to insinuate. No, I know, but Bilsarians like typically like.

1340
01:14:35,119 --> 01:14:37,279
But my point is it's not accidental that like all

1341
01:14:37,319 --> 01:14:39,720
these fagas who were like, oh with weights, I'm like pussy,

1342
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,079
I'm a bro. Oh no, I'm right wing. Like what

1343
01:14:42,119 --> 01:14:44,279
they're trying to do is they're trying to like they're

1344
01:14:44,279 --> 01:14:48,840
trying to gut uh this tendency of anything substantive, like

1345
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:52,039
turn it into just like another like garbage like lifestyle brand.

1346
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,359
And they're also trying to say like, oh you see,

1347
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,560
we're like like this against a Bilsarian. It's like, see,

1348
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:59,079
I'm critical of Israel too, but of course I know that,

1349
01:14:59,239 --> 01:15:01,640
like Muslims are so human. It's just Israel is going

1350
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:02,079
too far.

1351
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:02,720
Speaker 5: You know.

1352
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:05,279
Speaker 3: It's like a way of trying to murk us, you know,

1353
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:09,079
by by like recasting what we stand for. And I

1354
01:15:09,159 --> 01:15:11,039
mean it's like okay, I don't I'm I'm a one

1355
01:15:11,119 --> 01:15:14,800
percent uh, I'm a day one like one percent bangorist.

1356
01:15:15,159 --> 01:15:18,319
But you know it is toxic man if like our

1357
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:22,239
perspective gets like recast by these like shills or are

1358
01:15:22,319 --> 01:15:26,119
basically like taking on those claims like for the sake

1359
01:15:26,199 --> 01:15:29,520
of discrediting like anything we put out there. It doesn't

1360
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,279
mean like, oh no, it's good, like there's a majoritarian

1361
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,960
tendency for its being based that's not what it is.

1362
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,079
Like that's happening too, but that's a totally different thing.

1363
01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,760
You know, Like these guys didn't like one day wake

1364
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,319
up and be like, oh I'm right wing, because I'm.

1365
01:15:44,359 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 5: This is exactly what we need to be talking about,

1366
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,880
because I see the only remember the first time we

1367
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:52,000
got on the phone together, what was one of the

1368
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:54,279
what was one of the first things we pointed out

1369
01:15:55,079 --> 01:15:56,359
how detrimental.

1370
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:01,319
Speaker 6: The whole vitalist right wing is yes, sure everyone should

1371
01:16:01,319 --> 01:16:04,319
be working out, everyone should be lifting weights, but not

1372
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,800
everybody should be working out and lifting weights and being pagans,

1373
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:11,520
because that's the way you defet know, that's the way forward,

1374
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,720
and you know it is.

1375
01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:16,560
Speaker 5: Always anybody wants to say that my position on that

1376
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,000
is because I'm a pussy or I'm some fat loser

1377
01:16:19,079 --> 01:16:23,039
in my basement. I'm sure the guys that are on

1378
01:16:23,159 --> 01:16:26,760
zoom right now can affirm that I am a in fact, giant, jacked,

1379
01:16:27,159 --> 01:16:30,520
crazy person and I don't live in a basement. So

1380
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:36,920
all criticism of vitalism is not fat people, right. Uncle

1381
01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,680
Adolph told us that vitalism is a.

1382
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:43,079
Speaker 3: What do you call it?

1383
01:16:43,159 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 5: It's a surrogate for political action. It makes me feel

1384
01:16:46,119 --> 01:16:48,439
like you're doing political action, but it doesn't actually have

1385
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:49,720
any political utility.

1386
01:16:49,800 --> 01:16:52,239
Speaker 3: I've got something though, I've got some authority to speak

1387
01:16:52,279 --> 01:16:54,119
on this, and I don't talk about the locks. I'm

1388
01:16:54,119 --> 01:16:55,439
not going to be one of these guys who like

1389
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,880
relives his days is like some high school football star

1390
01:16:59,039 --> 01:17:02,520
or something, unlike all these motherfuckers. Basically, I was a

1391
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,840
competitive bodybuilder. That was like my whole life for nine

1392
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,119
years Okay, when I was young. I know all about

1393
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:12,720
that culture from within. It's like very fucked up. It's

1394
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:17,079
very perverse, it's very overly sexualized. And you know what

1395
01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:19,279
it is for almost all the dudes who are like

1396
01:17:19,479 --> 01:17:22,119
at a competitive level, it's some like it's like some

1397
01:17:22,359 --> 01:17:25,880
cope of like not dealing with real life. Like nobody

1398
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:28,079
gives a fuck. Nobody gives a fuck if you lift weight.

1399
01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:30,640
Somebody was a fuck if you're like, you know, if

1400
01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,600
if you've got if you've got like a display case

1401
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,479
full of trophies, like literally nobody could care less about

1402
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,039
that ship. You're not any different than some dude like

1403
01:17:39,239 --> 01:17:41,960
doing historical like reenactments on the weekend where it tends

1404
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,199
to be a night this idea we need.

1405
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 5: Jack Thomas photos on the timeline as because now I

1406
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,000
know that we need Jacked Thomas photos on the timeline.

1407
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,720
Speaker 4: I'm proud I.

1408
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,520
Speaker 3: Dropped a few of them. Okay, like I just don't know.

1409
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,680
I don't want to get it open that can of worms.

1410
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:02,079
But my point being like the whole one of the reasons,

1411
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,560
I mean, if that's part of going up and maturing,

1412
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:07,319
like you don't you don't put stock in that kind

1413
01:18:07,359 --> 01:18:09,479
of thing anymore, like get used to and also like

1414
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,560
I wasn't gonna like kill myself with like got to

1415
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,640
control drug use and it was getting out of control,

1416
01:18:14,399 --> 01:18:18,399
like uh like PDS. I mean, but the but the

1417
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,520
point is, like it's there's something pathetic about guys thinking like, oh,

1418
01:18:23,159 --> 01:18:26,039
so I'm good, so I'm like teaching like COMMUNIICLISTA, And

1419
01:18:26,079 --> 01:18:28,600
it's like, bro, you're you're being a fucking loser, you know,

1420
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:31,479
like not not liting waves of your loser Like investing

1421
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,840
that much into that stuff is like a huge like

1422
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,079
loser move and if you're in, you're a faggot. Just

1423
01:18:37,159 --> 01:18:39,000
really that's also like what's that even mean? It's like

1424
01:18:39,079 --> 01:18:41,600
so you you you you worship are trying to odin

1425
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:44,199
because you think that like I mean, like I don't.

1426
01:18:45,039 --> 01:18:48,239
There's guys like Ellen de ben Wah, like he if

1427
01:18:48,239 --> 01:18:51,359
we're talking about paganism and like some Heydegarian sense, Okay,

1428
01:18:51,359 --> 01:18:54,520
I'll accept that, but what these guys are talking about,

1429
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:57,039
it's like you can't like believe in things you know

1430
01:18:57,199 --> 01:18:59,880
aren't true. So it's like you believe some guy you

1431
01:19:00,079 --> 01:19:03,039
leaves a giant anvil in in Asgard and when some

1432
01:19:03,359 --> 01:19:06,640
and when some ethereal spectral being strikes it, that that

1433
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:09,560
what makes lightning happen. Like you, you've decided to believe

1434
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:10,840
it like at.

1435
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 6: All, it's just a cope against against Jews. It's it's

1436
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,520
basically this thing where it's like, well, you know, you

1437
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:21,960
worship this desert, you worship the desert, Israeli and everything,

1438
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,680
and because you do that, you'll never you'll always be

1439
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:28,079
under the power of the Jews, and I mean literally,

1440
01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:31,520
and they'll be like, I'm just bye by this by

1441
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:36,720
being a pagan, I'm blessing my ancestors, I'm doing my ancestors,

1442
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,399
and I'm like your grandfather was a fucking Christian, all right.

1443
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 3: But also they don't they don't understand.

1444
01:19:42,399 --> 01:19:45,159
Speaker 6: What the ancestors and the ones they know.

1445
01:19:46,079 --> 01:19:49,399
Speaker 3: The issue with that too is that there was no

1446
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,840
like Judaism as we know it before like one five

1447
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:56,520
a D. It's the whole point that correct without Saturday

1448
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:58,960
thing priests who without a temple, there is no Judaism.

1449
01:19:59,239 --> 01:20:01,000
And secondly, if you want to go up to some

1450
01:20:01,199 --> 01:20:03,119
like Zionists or just like some guy here like in

1451
01:20:03,159 --> 01:20:06,079
my coot, some like huge like you know, like conservatd

1452
01:20:06,119 --> 01:20:10,720
Jewish guy you're like, I'm a Nazi and I worship four,

1453
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,479
he'd look at you like you were a metal case.

1454
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:15,039
I have no idea what you're talking about, like this

1455
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:18,720
idea that like gives some threat to like Zionists. If

1456
01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,880
you're like pretending you're like a Viking lord, like nobody

1457
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,199
cares about that. Nobody even knows what you're talking about.

1458
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,399
You know, yet somehow, like if I started like preaching

1459
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:30,039
the Gospel with my KGV in my hand, those same

1460
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:33,439
guys would probably like physically attack me. Hmm, I wonder

1461
01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:35,319
why that is, you know, Like I'm not saying that's

1462
01:20:35,319 --> 01:20:37,000
the metric, but you understand what I mean.

1463
01:20:37,279 --> 01:20:41,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, why does this certain place in the desert that would,

1464
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:44,880
to Peed's point, this certain place, this little desert country

1465
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:49,880
have to buy law replace the plus symbol as in

1466
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,800
like the opposite of the minus symbol with this weird

1467
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:59,279
little C type squiggle creature because the plus symbol looks

1468
01:20:59,359 --> 01:21:02,319
too much like a cross that it pains them to

1469
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,800
see it, so they need it removed from all of

1470
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:07,800
their mathematic and economic and pretty much all of their

1471
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,880
literature written large across the nation, because it's not symbol,

1472
01:21:12,119 --> 01:21:13,880
it's a symbol that offends them.

1473
01:21:14,279 --> 01:21:16,319
Speaker 6: What does that sound like from literally, what does that

1474
01:21:16,399 --> 01:21:17,960
sound like from literary history?

1475
01:21:18,479 --> 01:21:18,960
Speaker 5: Vampires?

1476
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:24,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's yeah, No, it's like it's like, well, also,

1477
01:21:24,279 --> 01:21:26,720
that's how I can tell these guys don't interact in

1478
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:29,000
the real world, because if you like Ben around Jews

1479
01:21:29,039 --> 01:21:31,239
and you've been around, if you understand like not just

1480
01:21:31,479 --> 01:21:35,039
philosophically and historically like the source of ethno sectory intention,

1481
01:21:35,439 --> 01:21:37,800
but if you interact with other people like in any

1482
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,359
kind of like meaningful capacity, you know, that's that's in

1483
01:21:41,399 --> 01:21:44,159
the large part where you're like identitarian sense of cell

1484
01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:46,600
comes from, at least in political terms, you know, if

1485
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:50,319
you're like the citing, you're like an oldedness whatever you're

1486
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,880
you're you're like reading comic books in your house and

1487
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:55,720
like you're you live in some like random town where.

1488
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 5: Like it was a Marvel guy that everyone makes fun of.

1489
01:21:58,920 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 3: No exactly, and like I played the point, and I

1490
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,920
mean I I kept a lot of hate from people

1491
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:08,119
for all kinds of like goofy reasons, but I you know,

1492
01:22:08,279 --> 01:22:11,920
like I I mean, I'm like a day one minority

1493
01:22:12,119 --> 01:22:14,680
because I always have been on the ground here, you know,

1494
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:16,880
and even like my Ethnoles is a minority here, not

1495
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,960
just my race, you know, like and it uh you know.

1496
01:22:20,159 --> 01:22:22,640
And the fact is that's why I consider myself some

1497
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:27,039
of an expert on and these kinds of relationships across uh,

1498
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,560
ethnic and sectarian lines, because that's the way you have

1499
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,279
to live your life here unless you're gonna be a

1500
01:22:32,359 --> 01:22:35,119
shut in. And I take some pride in that because

1501
01:22:35,159 --> 01:22:38,479
to me, like white power is what mastercast stuff is,

1502
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,039
like is the reason why like you know, hood guys

1503
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:47,359
or Spanish guys you know, or you know, uh, these

1504
01:22:47,399 --> 01:22:50,359
like Slavic guys, whether they're like Romanian or Yuki or

1505
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,640
Polish or whatever, you know, they like my shit rings

1506
01:22:53,680 --> 01:22:56,239
out man like, not not not because like I'm so important,

1507
01:22:56,359 --> 01:22:58,720
but it's because I represent it correctly. Man, So like

1508
01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:00,439
them guys like give me respect.

1509
01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 5: You know. Everywhere I go in the world. If I

1510
01:23:03,039 --> 01:23:05,520
go to China, the Chinaman tries to speak like me.

1511
01:23:06,359 --> 01:23:09,479
If I go, unfortunately or reluctantly to India, the Indian

1512
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:12,880
man tries to speak like me. He tries to dress

1513
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,880
like me. The Chinaman tries to dress like me. Yeah,

1514
01:23:16,279 --> 01:23:18,640
why does he? Why does he do that? Right when

1515
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,800
he goes to sleep, he has dreams about a little house,

1516
01:23:22,319 --> 01:23:24,920
a white picket fence. He has my dreams, or what

1517
01:23:25,039 --> 01:23:28,439
he thinks my dreams are. He uses my technology. Right

1518
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,680
as I talk to him, planes are flying over my

1519
01:23:31,800 --> 01:23:36,439
head and satellites above them. His whole conceptualization of the world,

1520
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,960
his paradigm is white supremacy. Yeah, I don't hate I

1521
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,600
don't hate the you know, Jewish people, other than the

1522
01:23:43,680 --> 01:23:46,960
fact that, like, as I go through on Pete's podcast

1523
01:23:47,119 --> 01:23:50,680
in the Wasp series, that you know, my ancestors built

1524
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,079
a beautiful nation, the richest nation in the history of

1525
01:23:55,159 --> 01:23:59,720
the world, out of the abject wilderness and savagery that

1526
01:24:00,439 --> 01:24:06,920
was America pre colonization, and a couple of them organized

1527
01:24:07,079 --> 01:24:11,479
nefariously and disenfranchised us in the thirties and used World

1528
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:14,159
War two to seal the deal. If they had never

1529
01:24:14,279 --> 01:24:16,920
done that, if they had never come here, I would

1530
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,760
have absolutely no problem with it. Now it's like become existential.

1531
01:24:21,079 --> 01:24:22,560
I mean, your people are trying to get rid of

1532
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:23,399
my people.

1533
01:24:23,880 --> 01:24:26,039
Speaker 3: Like politically, I mean your ops, you're ops. You know,

1534
01:24:26,119 --> 01:24:28,800
it's it's it's soundto logical, it's not personal like and

1535
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,800
that's why what's also weird. It's weird like I try

1536
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:35,399
to explain of motherfuckers, Like people have no idea what

1537
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,880
goes on in my own mind because it's so mysterious

1538
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:39,760
and complicated just because they don't disclose it.

1539
01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 5: And it's like very very good. Yeah.

1540
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:49,159
Speaker 3: Well it's like, look, honestly, you know, I've got ulster heritage,

1541
01:24:49,239 --> 01:24:51,600
and uh it's basically the way I think about stuff.

1542
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:55,399
If I had my way, if if some hood motherfucker

1543
01:24:55,600 --> 01:25:02,880
like butchered like uh my people, unfortunately happens. Uh sometimes,

1544
01:25:03,279 --> 01:25:06,560
you know, like to that horrible like Knoxville incident, if

1545
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,960
it was up to me, I probably order like ten

1546
01:25:09,159 --> 01:25:12,520
random military a black males decimated. You know, I do

1547
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:15,119
stuff that will like horrify these motherfuckers. They clay I'm

1548
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:17,680
soft on stuff. It's like the fact I'm not like

1549
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:20,039
a piece of shit loser who goes around like hating

1550
01:25:20,199 --> 01:25:22,119
black folks for no reason. It's like, well, I don't

1551
01:25:22,159 --> 01:25:24,079
do that. It's not a fucking loser, you know, And

1552
01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:26,399
it's like I'm not and that's not like weirdo who

1553
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:27,319
like hates people.

1554
01:25:27,399 --> 01:25:30,199
Speaker 5: You should like just address that a little bit deeper, Thomas,

1555
01:25:30,239 --> 01:25:32,720
because it goes into what what Burden and Pete were

1556
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:35,640
talking about about this third world that's been inserted into

1557
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,560
the narrative, like the ribbon doesn't exist. You just hate

1558
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:39,960
brown people just to hate them.

1559
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 4: Wrong with you?

1560
01:25:42,319 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 3: No that and they also know what what's like? So

1561
01:25:45,279 --> 01:25:49,319
uh I I hang around like Syrian and Palestinian people

1562
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:52,079
like they're so they're not white, but some like some

1563
01:25:52,279 --> 01:25:54,880
like some like skeazy Jewish guy is like get the

1564
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:58,079
fuck out here, you know, like the sharhasage not like

1565
01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:00,720
oh I mean I I I'm not, I'm not something

1566
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,880
like wignate idiot. I mean still's more complicated than this,

1567
01:26:03,000 --> 01:26:05,960
but it's like so like ben Netting Yahoo is some

1568
01:26:06,119 --> 01:26:09,800
like superior specimen, but like Asad is like a third

1569
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,000
world like Denizen, Like what does that even meet?

1570
01:26:12,159 --> 01:26:15,039
Speaker 5: Like that's do you go around America? Like hate? Do

1571
01:26:15,119 --> 01:26:17,079
you go to like the seven eleven? You hate the

1572
01:26:17,159 --> 01:26:19,840
guy behind the counter. Yeah, he doesn't want to be there.

1573
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:21,319
You don't want to be there, but you hate him

1574
01:26:21,359 --> 01:26:23,720
for no reason. You can't be politically useful in anyway,

1575
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:26,800
but you can just hate, you know, people of absolutely

1576
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,800
no political significance whatso.

1577
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well it's also many personal feelings don't figure

1578
01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:35,159
out of the equation you know, like I don't yeah,

1579
01:26:35,359 --> 01:26:37,520
like it's uh but no, that's why these people aren't.

1580
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:41,119
They're they're NPCs. They're just like loudmouth NPCs or they're like, uh,

1581
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,199
are there guys uh their gut back when you can

1582
01:26:45,279 --> 01:26:47,560
actually afford to like go to baseball games for cheap

1583
01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:49,359
they're they're like they're like the drunk guys like in

1584
01:26:49,399 --> 01:26:51,840
the bleachers that really feel just like talking shit and

1585
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:55,359
like trying to spit on like you know, uh like

1586
01:26:55,439 --> 01:26:57,880
some random motherfucker where they blame they lost some money

1587
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,720
on their lives better or something like. They're not these

1588
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:02,840
guys got like nothing to do with us, but it's.

1589
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:06,680
Speaker 5: Not doesn't exist. It was invented by the same guy

1590
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,079
that tried to push chance of transdenderism, and he got

1591
01:27:09,119 --> 01:27:11,279
angry that he got kicked out of Germany and couldn't

1592
01:27:11,279 --> 01:27:13,720
fuck kids anymore, so he came up with this theory

1593
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:14,600
called racism.

1594
01:27:15,159 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, essentially, what's what's although too? Like why is

1595
01:27:20,079 --> 01:27:23,279
the guy like that? Basically the day one the origin

1596
01:27:23,359 --> 01:27:25,880
of quote anti Semitism. This guy Bill helm Mar he

1597
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:27,279
was one of these, like he's one of these, like

1598
01:27:27,399 --> 01:27:31,039
late nineteen to early twentieth century like racialists who was

1599
01:27:31,119 --> 01:27:34,680
trying to reduce everything to like biological and paradigms. He's like, oh,

1600
01:27:34,760 --> 01:27:37,119
you know the reason why fore this tension between you know,

1601
01:27:37,239 --> 01:27:40,760
like Jews and Germans, It's because they're submit and then

1602
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:44,239
it's just like other race, so they're like programmed by blood.

1603
01:27:44,399 --> 01:27:46,319
Was like this was before you know, the human genoism,

1604
01:27:46,399 --> 01:27:48,680
as you know, they're programmed by blood to like act

1605
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:51,520
this way and think this way. So it's like why

1606
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:54,000
that doesn't make any sense like in this idea, Like

1607
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,800
so you know we have if Jews have like political

1608
01:27:57,840 --> 01:28:00,880
hostility with other people, it's because those people hate Semitism,

1609
01:28:01,159 --> 01:28:03,479
Like what that? What do they even mean? You know,

1610
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,760
like like and it but it's terms of bandied, like

1611
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:08,199
it actually like means something or like it actually describes

1612
01:28:08,239 --> 01:28:09,199
political realities.

1613
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:15,199
Speaker 5: Yeah. I have far more in common with Native Americans

1614
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:20,680
than I do Benjamin Yahoo, like there there are noble people, Yeah,

1615
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:24,239
pretty much. I mean yeah, just thinking about some of

1616
01:28:24,319 --> 01:28:28,239
the I was reading earlier today about you know, some

1617
01:28:28,359 --> 01:28:30,319
of the Native American tribes and you're like, these are

1618
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,399
martial people, right, this is a martial cast.

1619
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 3: No, they they I I've got a lot of esteem

1620
01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:40,560
for Uh, I've got a lot of esteem for for

1621
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:43,039
Red Indians, man. I mean like there there there are

1622
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:47,800
there's there's profound differences like throughout the population depending on

1623
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:51,319
who we're talking about. But no, the Crazy Horrors was

1624
01:28:51,359 --> 01:28:54,479
a great man, you know, like he's probably like my dads.

1625
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:56,800
My dad's ender the Indian Wars and were fain the states,

1626
01:28:56,840 --> 01:28:58,479
like I'm into World War two. You know, that's like

1627
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:00,800
his like big like reason it is interest and like

1628
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:02,439
crazy Horse is one of his heroes.

1629
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:04,439
Speaker 5: So sometimes I was like a kid, you know, like

1630
01:29:04,479 --> 01:29:07,359
I learned every every Anglo man, at some point in

1631
01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:10,479
his life will find some war that he will then

1632
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:12,960
become obsessed with, but he will never become obsessed with

1633
01:29:13,079 --> 01:29:15,399
more than one. Yeah, yeah, this one.

1634
01:29:16,159 --> 01:29:19,159
Speaker 3: What's also I mean, Head's a brilliant guy, but he's

1635
01:29:19,199 --> 01:29:21,760
more I mean he's you know its history very well,

1636
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,359
but he's like he's like a high level like economists,

1637
01:29:24,399 --> 01:29:25,479
like game theory type guy.

1638
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1639
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,239
Speaker 3: It's like he's not as much of a he's not

1640
01:29:27,279 --> 01:29:29,520
as much like a history fag as I am, or

1641
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:33,079
like a historicism fag as I am. But he but yeah,

1642
01:29:33,239 --> 01:29:35,720
I so when I was like a little type, uh

1643
01:29:36,399 --> 01:29:38,239
you know, I I grew up learning about little Big

1644
01:29:38,319 --> 01:29:41,600
Horning and Custer obviously, but also like Sitting Bull and

1645
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:45,479
Crazy Horse and yeah, no, I I there. They're an

1646
01:29:45,479 --> 01:29:48,560
amazing people, man. And it's what's also, I developed huge

1647
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,279
respect for Islam. I started studying it because I met

1648
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:54,239
some of these Bosnia guys in the nineties, you know,

1649
01:29:54,359 --> 01:29:57,319
they like I was talking about on my pot and

1650
01:29:57,399 --> 01:29:59,720
they were fascinating guys and girls. And I never I've

1651
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,880
never met like European people who were like Bosmos, you know,

1652
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:05,520
that's what they're They're like blonde, eard blue, white people

1653
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:10,760
who were very very sony, and so I started like

1654
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:13,199
boning up on Islam and stuff and that's everything. We're

1655
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:18,920
young and yeah, man, like I uh, it's there's uh,

1656
01:30:19,279 --> 01:30:22,720
there's very very noble Islamic cultures. And I'm still I'm

1657
01:30:22,720 --> 01:30:29,239
an Orientalist, you know, like I guess yeah, and I mean, man,

1658
01:30:29,399 --> 01:30:31,880
but like it. But I'm also like why as fuck,

1659
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,880
you know, I find it crazy guys who like convert

1660
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:38,199
through and or like Christians. I can't imagine being anything

1661
01:30:38,279 --> 01:30:40,680
but like a Bible Protestant, you know, not even like

1662
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,720
consciously and just can't imagine doing that. But I you know,

1663
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,039
these people like trying to fro shade on like Islam.

1664
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,239
They think that like oh in London, there's some like

1665
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:52,960
there's some like atheists. Somali guy, you can't read like

1666
01:30:53,119 --> 01:30:56,840
rape some girl. That's Islam. It's like it's so fucking stupid.

1667
01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:00,279
It'd be like me saying like I hate Catholicism, some

1668
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:04,520
piece of shit like Venezuela and like Sereno like did

1669
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,640
something horrible if he crashed the border. But I but no,

1670
01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,640
I I guess my view on I mean that starts

1671
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,640
for rambling, but I guess kind of like the way

1672
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:15,680
my dad he's crazy horses, kind of like the way

1673
01:31:15,720 --> 01:31:18,199
a few people like self hydene and stuff.

1674
01:31:18,359 --> 01:31:21,960
Speaker 5: Salaaden is yeah, I mean this is Saladin is. Not

1675
01:31:22,079 --> 01:31:26,720
to turn this into history class, but Salaadin and kind

1676
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:31,039
of like the martial nature of some of the Arab peoples.

1677
01:31:32,079 --> 01:31:38,920
When Richard the Lionheart was Ye was fighting in one

1678
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:44,039
particular battle, he was literally standing on a mountain of corpses.

1679
01:31:44,079 --> 01:31:47,279
His horse had got shot under a shot out from

1680
01:31:47,319 --> 01:31:50,239
underneath him, and almost all of this men had been

1681
01:31:50,319 --> 01:31:53,000
killed and it was really just him and two other

1682
01:31:53,439 --> 01:31:57,239
knights backed into a corner and they're basically working their

1683
01:31:57,279 --> 01:31:59,960
way back, you know, fighting their way backwards and stepped

1684
01:32:00,199 --> 01:32:02,399
over other people that have died, and eventually, you know,

1685
01:32:03,039 --> 01:32:05,600
Saladean was so impressed. He thought this was the most

1686
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:07,359
He thought this was, you know, one of the most

1687
01:32:07,439 --> 01:32:13,279
noble things he'd ever seen, and he immediately ordered all

1688
01:32:13,319 --> 01:32:16,640
of his men to stop. So two of his uh so,

1689
01:32:16,840 --> 01:32:20,159
two of his aid the camps could bring two of

1690
01:32:20,239 --> 01:32:23,119
his favorite horses to Richard because he's like a man

1691
01:32:23,319 --> 01:32:26,399
so noble right needs to be on a horse, right,

1692
01:32:27,039 --> 01:32:31,399
he can't be basically being a knight or at king

1693
01:32:31,479 --> 01:32:34,479
and being what do they call it when you get

1694
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:38,840
off horseback. Dismounted was viewed as you know, it's like

1695
01:32:38,920 --> 01:32:40,760
if you saw a guy that you respect a lot,

1696
01:32:41,319 --> 01:32:43,640
you know, just have a car drive by and cover,

1697
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:45,479
you know, splash him with a bunch of mud and

1698
01:32:45,479 --> 01:32:47,000
you're just like, you take off your coat and you

1699
01:32:47,119 --> 01:32:50,479
give it to the man because you respect him like no.

1700
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 4: People.

1701
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, ball on the leper at sal Hydine had a

1702
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,640
great rapport and that's one of the read things that

1703
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:01,079
kept the King of Majerusalem safe. It's horrible movie because

1704
01:33:01,159 --> 01:33:04,399
because it's like King of Heaven it's like like the

1705
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,960
it's horrible history and it's just like dumb. But there

1706
01:33:07,039 --> 01:33:10,039
are a couple aspects. The guy who plays South Hydien

1707
01:33:10,319 --> 01:33:13,159
is like a brilliant Arab actor and he really seems

1708
01:33:13,319 --> 01:33:16,199
like that type. And Edward Norton his ball in the Leopard.

1709
01:33:16,199 --> 01:33:17,960
I thought it was pretty cool and like they're they're

1710
01:33:18,039 --> 01:33:19,880
kind of rapport. I thought it was cool and it's

1711
01:33:20,079 --> 01:33:23,000
but no, I anybody who reads Gion or anybody who

1712
01:33:23,079 --> 01:33:26,279
reads like a real history of Uh, it looks like

1713
01:33:26,359 --> 01:33:29,640
really like Michael Prouden's History of Uh the Mongols, which

1714
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:33,760
was which was essential reading at UH at SS Officer

1715
01:33:34,079 --> 01:33:37,199
Younger School. That's a great book. And I do have

1716
01:33:37,199 --> 01:33:39,720
a huge respect for the Mongols, like nobody. I feel

1717
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:41,720
like any kind of real white man, like you respect

1718
01:33:41,760 --> 01:33:43,920
that ship, you know, and like anybody throws to put

1719
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,479
shade on it, like generally in their own life. They're

1720
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,079
like some kind of like dysgenic pussy, but also like

1721
01:33:49,159 --> 01:33:50,279
they're just like a piece of ship.

1722
01:33:50,399 --> 01:33:50,560
Speaker 4: You know.

1723
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 3: It's like I'm gonna hate on.

1724
01:33:52,039 --> 01:33:54,680
Speaker 5: People have to hate these people, and I have to

1725
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:57,279
like and I have to support this other nation that

1726
01:33:57,439 --> 01:34:03,119
is dissolving my race and ethnicity in my homeland to

1727
01:34:03,319 --> 01:34:06,880
try and subvert and get out in front of any

1728
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:11,680
nationalist tendencies that may occur and therefore reduce funding and

1729
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:15,760
support for this nation because I hate brown people.

1730
01:34:16,239 --> 01:34:19,520
Speaker 3: What's also I mean, I don't I don't disrespect people's race,

1731
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:22,079
because that's the same reas I don't like disrespect somebody

1732
01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:23,159
white for their mom.

1733
01:34:25,359 --> 01:34:26,800
Speaker 5: Keyboard. Yeah, like I'm not.

1734
01:34:27,039 --> 01:34:29,239
Speaker 3: I'm not a disrespectful fuck, And if you are.

1735
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:31,720
Speaker 4: That was my it makes you feel any better. That

1736
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:34,840
was actually my my elbow, not my keyboard, which is

1737
01:34:34,880 --> 01:34:37,439
probably more fucking disturbing. But I didn't realize that was unmuted.

1738
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:40,720
Speaker 3: My bad. Guess I'll wrap it up that.

1739
01:34:41,039 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 5: It's definitely more disturbing.

1740
01:34:43,479 --> 01:34:46,439
Speaker 3: I don't like disrespectful people, man, and like I don't,

1741
01:34:47,159 --> 01:34:50,319
I won't. I won't tolerate some some black guy or

1742
01:34:50,319 --> 01:34:53,560
a Spanish guy or anybody like disrespecting my race. I

1743
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:55,399
don't care. Get my ass kicked, and I'm not going

1744
01:34:55,479 --> 01:34:57,720
to tolerate it. So, I mean, the last thing I'm

1745
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:00,359
gonna do is just turn around and like, just respect

1746
01:35:00,399 --> 01:35:02,720
someone's race. I gonna whim. If you do that, you're

1747
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:05,439
you're first of all you're asking to get mrked and

1748
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,920
you deserve it. But also you're just like a piece

1749
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,479
of ship, that's all.

1750
01:35:10,159 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that to me is bad optics. For months

1751
01:35:12,439 --> 01:35:15,720
to cry about optics, That to me is bad optics. Yeah,

1752
01:35:16,000 --> 01:35:18,560
it's uh, it's day one stuff. But these dudes are

1753
01:35:18,680 --> 01:35:21,680
never you know, not I'm not something like badass or

1754
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:24,279
gangsterous person. I'm like a guy likes to read books

1755
01:35:24,319 --> 01:35:26,119
and stuff. But like I have been in the street,

1756
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,560
and anybody who talks that way is not because you know,

1757
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,439
they're they're they're and I mean, plus you just shouldn't

1758
01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:36,079
think that way anyway. It's it's it's it's uncool, and

1759
01:35:36,359 --> 01:35:37,760
it's dishonorable men.

1760
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:39,800
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, like how things

1761
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,479
appear actually doesn't matter, Like that is it's not all

1762
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:44,119
you got, but it's a lot of what you got.

1763
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,479
I gotta raise up here, man, time kind of got

1764
01:35:46,479 --> 01:35:51,560
away from me. I'm sorry to be abrupt, but yeah,

1765
01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:54,840
I gotta Yeah I didn't. It's like dumping snow here

1766
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,439
some of the other things, like I gotta like shovel snow.

1767
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 5: The three the four of us will wrap it up.

1768
01:36:02,319 --> 01:36:04,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but uh, we should do this again, man,

1769
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:08,680
and uh like sooner than later, and like my schedule

1770
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:11,119
is little more chill because like some of the Thomas

1771
01:36:11,199 --> 01:36:14,159
Tours stops that now like no longer exist, like I

1772
01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:15,960
mean they exist on the map, but like they're no

1773
01:36:16,079 --> 01:36:20,159
longer like part of the part of the tour. So

1774
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:22,840
but so yeah, just give me like a two days

1775
01:36:22,960 --> 01:36:25,600
notice if you could, anytime, and we can do this again, man,

1776
01:36:25,680 --> 01:36:30,079
and yeah, I'll uh yeah man, yeah, I guess you

1777
01:36:30,199 --> 01:36:32,800
and I p will click up this weekend and uh.

1778
01:36:33,119 --> 01:36:36,680
Speaker 6: We got tomorrow we're recording for the podcast and then

1779
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:38,319
we're gonna do a movie review on Saturday.

1780
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:40,720
Speaker 2: Movie.

1781
01:36:41,159 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 3: Can you tell us what movie? It's not the peak?

1782
01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:46,079
If you.

1783
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:49,159
Speaker 2: Do you do you want to reveal or do you

1784
01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:50,319
want to wait? Surprise?

1785
01:36:51,199 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 6: It's always a surprise. We never announced that.

1786
01:36:53,119 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's a good one. It's a

1787
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:58,319
good one. I think you also prove it. Yeah. And

1788
01:36:58,359 --> 01:37:02,359
then on Sunday, like me and uh me and Jay

1789
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,920
Bourbon are gonna are gonna do some stuff too.

1790
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:07,800
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that reminds me. I have to I have

1791
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:10,960
to go back over some of the America first stuff

1792
01:37:11,000 --> 01:37:12,079
for Pete, my bad Pete.

1793
01:37:12,079 --> 01:37:15,399
Speaker 3: I I literally didn't do any of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1794
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:19,399
we got to allow me to participate, man, And sorry

1795
01:37:19,439 --> 01:37:23,399
for being abrupt, but yeah, I'll coming back. Yeah, of course. Man.

1796
01:37:23,439 --> 01:37:26,359
I'll catch up with you guys in the next few days. Great,

1797
01:37:26,680 --> 01:37:28,239
take care, all.

1798
01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 2: Right, listen, gentlemen, we only I only have about twenty

1799
01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,840
minutes left. I got up to make myself a cup

1800
01:37:32,880 --> 01:37:35,199
of coffee when I came back. Thomas and Stormy we're

1801
01:37:35,239 --> 01:37:37,680
talking about fucking crazy horse. So I don't know where

1802
01:37:37,680 --> 01:37:40,800
the fuck you guys got to that. I don't mind. No,

1803
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:44,159
I think it's cool. But uh, we're gonna I'd like

1804
01:37:44,279 --> 01:37:47,760
to finish out on two things. I'm gonna ask Pete

1805
01:37:47,800 --> 01:37:50,720
a question and Jay burden of question. So first question

1806
01:37:50,840 --> 01:37:54,880
to Pete is, uh, Matt Gates, you were talking about

1807
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:56,960
this before. I want to I want to a little

1808
01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:01,199
bit more get back to that he resigned or stepped

1809
01:38:01,239 --> 01:38:04,720
down or refused to accept this nomination because of this scandal.

1810
01:38:04,760 --> 01:38:09,600
He's embroiled in h Ryan Dawson says that some of

1811
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:12,199
the people involved in this scandal are Israelis and they

1812
01:38:12,199 --> 01:38:15,239
were working for the Israeli government. He didn't prove it

1813
01:38:15,399 --> 01:38:17,920
to me. Yeah, well, okay, so if you know it's

1814
01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,640
a fact, prove it now.

1815
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 5: He did. He published are you are you on his

1816
01:38:25,199 --> 01:38:29,560
are you subscribed to his substec Oh? Yeah, all right,

1817
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:32,720
and that you subscribed to like the a n C Report.

1818
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:36,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he doesn't.

1819
01:38:36,199 --> 01:38:40,279
Speaker 5: I remember seeing it there. I remember seeing it there.

1820
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:43,039
But yeah, we don't have access to him.

1821
01:38:44,199 --> 01:38:47,520
Speaker 2: He didn't. He didn't conclusively prove that it was connected.

1822
01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:48,680
It was an Israeli op.

1823
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 5: Pete, if you want to reach out to him, I'll

1824
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:53,720
reach out to him through Larry. We can probably sort

1825
01:38:53,800 --> 01:38:54,079
that out.

1826
01:38:54,399 --> 01:38:54,880
Speaker 6: Yeah we could.

1827
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:57,239
Speaker 2: But but here's the thing. It stinks of an as

1828
01:38:57,439 --> 01:39:00,479
Israeli op and it probably was. I just don't think

1829
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:01,359
we have the proof yet.

1830
01:39:02,359 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 6: Well, I'm getting it somebody released this morning, and I

1831
01:39:06,039 --> 01:39:12,720
don't know whether it's real or not, but allegedly his

1832
01:39:13,039 --> 01:39:15,720
Venmo history has been released.

1833
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:18,640
Speaker 2: And yeah, and that's real. Yeah, it's real.

1834
01:39:19,359 --> 01:39:22,239
Speaker 6: If that's real, then there is a lot of money

1835
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:29,000
going to what looks like random women. Yeah, I don't know,

1836
01:39:29,399 --> 01:39:30,119
you know, I don't know.

1837
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,680
Speaker 5: I know.

1838
01:39:33,000 --> 01:39:35,680
Speaker 6: Orrin McIntyre right now is saying that, you know, it

1839
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,800
could be that he was he was the bait that

1840
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:41,439
was put out there to make everybody crazy and then

1841
01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:45,840
they'll slide somebody in who you know has more, is

1842
01:39:46,319 --> 01:39:50,159
more of an order follower, has more experience at doing

1843
01:39:50,239 --> 01:39:54,439
this kind of thing. Maybe his own personal lawyer. I

1844
01:39:54,520 --> 01:39:57,439
saw someone screaming for cash Patil to be put in

1845
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:00,880
that position, because that guy's you know, say what you

1846
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:04,199
want about him about you know, wherever he comes from,

1847
01:40:04,359 --> 01:40:06,960
wherever his family is from. The guy's a maniac and

1848
01:40:07,079 --> 01:40:10,119
he like he literally wants to take He wants to

1849
01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:12,319
throw people in jail. I mean, he wants he wants

1850
01:40:12,319 --> 01:40:15,560
to see people in jail. I don't know who you know,

1851
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:21,600
I don't know, no the Cash Bettel, but I don't know,

1852
01:40:22,359 --> 01:40:25,039
you know, if this is true or not, what it is.

1853
01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:28,640
It just we're just getting the news a couple hours ago.

1854
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:35,800
The the what could happen was the this could have

1855
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:37,920
been all leaked. A lot of this could have been

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honey potted, a lot of it. I don't know. Yeah,

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we don't.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you what Ryan Dawson's claiming. And this

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is all true, but there's no definitive link to Israel.

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This guy, Jonathan Greenberg, he's a Jewish tax collector in Florida.

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He's a multiple felon.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry that that that name sounds very Irish to me.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, it is promises, and he's he's going to

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prison for eleven years on thirty three felonies. He's probably

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he'd probably should be in prison.

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Speaker 5: He should. I know, I know.

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Speaker 2: They're fucking with us, man, They're definitely fucking with us.

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So he should be going to prison longer than eleven years.

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But he led the Feds to Matt Gates, so they

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went easy on him as part of his deals, throwing

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Matt Gates under the bus. Here's the problem, though. There's

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this CIA agent and listen to this name. Tell me

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if this is also Irish, Bob Levinson, you could see it,

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if you could see a picture.

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Speaker 3: Of this guy. If that's not Irish, that's Amish.

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Speaker 2: He's a He's a CIA agent who got captured in Iran.

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He's believed to be dead, but there are some people

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still working to free him that say he's still alive

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and say he was never killed.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: There's somebody who came to Matt Gates's father and said,

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if you give us twenty five million dollars, will make

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all these charges go away. This was before it blew up.

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I don't know if you saw Matt Gates on Tucker,

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but when they came to his dad and said, hey,

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this guy has all this shit on your son, Matt,

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and he's gonna blow him up. If you give us

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twenty five million dollars, we'll make it disappear. And they

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were going to say they were gonna make the money

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transfer look like he was giving a donation to help

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these people get Robert Levinson out of Iran. They're like,

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on paper, this is gonna look like you're giving us

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money to help free this guy from Iran. Those are

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the people Ryan Dawson is saying are Israeli or connected

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to Israel at least, which makes sense because who else

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would be able to fucking try to free a Jewish

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cias And from Iran. So we got to follow this

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story and see if it pans out that way. Ryan

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Dawson's probably correct. It's just he hasn't been able to

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definitively prove that they are connected to Iran, but it

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sure stinks like that. So if that's the case, this

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was of course a blackmail scheme to sabotage Mat Gates

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for this exact type of thing. So I think in

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light of all this, Trump knew all this, and he's

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01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:14,960
nominated him on purpose as a fuck you. You were

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talking about COVID before Pete. I mean, Robert Kennedy is

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01:43:18,119 --> 01:43:22,840
a fuck you appointment, you know what I mean? Telsea

1908
01:43:22,880 --> 01:43:27,920
Gabbard a fuck you appointment? Like these are very rhetorically

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01:43:28,039 --> 01:43:29,720
effective moves that he's doing.

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Speaker 6: Right, and I mean it's hard to know. You know,

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you have to take into consideration the entire West has

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been under occupied, has been occupied for eighty five years.

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So the occupiers it's easiest for them to do to

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move within the system, but they've basically designed the system

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so that they can do whatever they wish within the system. Yeah,

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I don't see. Here's the thing. Having Matt Gates there

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as a g we know that he's motivated, and you know,

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we know that he'd be you know, he'd be an attack.

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But really, if Trump is intent on going full Article

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two and going after the people he was going to

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go after with Matt Gates, he's going to go after

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them with anyone. So yeah, the way I look at

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it is you put anyone into that position, and I like,

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you know, I like Matt Gates. I like his fire,

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he could be guilty of all this that there's a

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good chance he could that he's guilty in some way.

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Speaker 5: Why would he use that though? It doesn't make any

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sense because Congress literally has a slush fund for paying

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off basically you know, you know, in a bug I

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can't remember, I can't put into words basically sex allegations

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against members of Congress. They literally have behind like literally

1932
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hundreds of millions of dollars set aside for congressmen that

1933
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put their dick where it's not supposed to be. And

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now some girl wants to come out and tell a

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story like literally your tax dollars go to fund suppressing

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their sex scandals. And Matt Gates is one of the

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only people that's never had to withdraw from that slush fund.

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Speaker 6: The speaker of the former Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert,

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was apparently diddling kids, and nobody really went to bat

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for him. And what's the weird thing about that is

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Democrats don't throw that in the face of Republicans like

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every day. Yeah, no, it would be something you know,

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if you if a former Democrat Speaker of the House

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went to jail for diddling kids, that would be something

1945
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you would hope the Republicans would would be bringing up

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any time they could, But they don't. They don't bring

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up No one's.

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Speaker 5: Talking about Gates. Could be completely surprised that he even

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has a fucking Benmo account.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just no, no, no, that's not what happened. What

1951
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do you mean he admits that, he admits it. He

1952
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,119
admits that he gave these women money. He just says

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that they weren't prostitutes, and he said he didn't give

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them the money for the sex. He was given them

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money for plane tickets. The thing that's preposterous.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this was this was part of it. That was

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what they were saying with the black met with the

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sex trafficking thing when they got them the first time.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's the same thing. It's the same case. Yeah,

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come it's coming back.

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Speaker 5: This is the same This is the same case, the

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same thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, oh then yeah, this isn't

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even a fucking issue then, because they all that stuff before, had.

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Speaker 6: He was he was here. Here here's the bigger question.

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Fuck the how, ask the why? Why did he step

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down at this point?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that is exactly the question. That is exactly the question.

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And somebody told him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So, I mean, in Ken Paxton, there's a always

1970
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a thought in my mind of are we running are

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we running the QAnon playbook again?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Which was right? Everything?

1974
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Speaker 4: You know, which is the idea that Trump is playing,

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you know, fifth dimensional chess. Everything was intentional. And I mean,

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is there just a possibility that he wanted Gates? Because

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Gates was, you know, a fire breather. He knew he

1978
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had a chip on his shoulder, and he expected Republicans

1979
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to get in line, and four Republicans flaked out on him,

1980
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and so he was stuck in a bad situation and

1981
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was like, all right, we'll get someone else, like regardless

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of any backroom stuff, Like, I feel like it's at

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least worth considering the fact that this might be exactly

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what it looks like.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is exactly what it's looked like. Let me

1986
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let me just throw this out here. I agree.

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Speaker 5: So it was in the Senate, right, So four Republicans

1988
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flaked out in the Senate.

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Speaker 4: But yes, yeah, four And I don't remember the names.

1990
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I know one of them was in Utah who narrowly

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run narrowly won his primary.

1992
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Speaker 5: And you will tell me that having Marco Rubio back

1993
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in the Senate and not in a useless position of

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sector of state is better, not a new burden.

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Speaker 2: But here's what I think happened with Gates. So Pete,

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to your point about Denny Haster, the reason why Denny

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Haster he had to quietly go away and it's not

1998
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being thrown in their face, is because he was part

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of the network that everyone else is involved in. These

2000
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are provided by the Epstein blackmail Masad network. I think

2001
01:48:33,399 --> 01:48:36,239
what happened with Gates. I think what happened with Gates

2002
01:48:36,840 --> 01:48:39,680
is that he was just partying and this fucking this

2003
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guy Greenberg was not connected to anybody. He was just

2004
01:48:43,279 --> 01:48:45,960
a rich kid who had a government position, and he

2005
01:48:46,119 --> 01:48:49,239
partied like crazy, and he he was like hooking up

2006
01:48:49,239 --> 01:48:52,640
with girls he met online and he started like ostensibly

2007
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pimping them out. And Matt Gates got connected to him

2008
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and they were partying together. Then what happens, and there's

2009
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no espionage going on, Then what happens is Greenberg gets

2010
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arrested and is facing basically life in prison. So he's like, well, hey,

2011
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I got Matt Gates here, I could throw him under

2012
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the bus and I'll get I'll get a reduced sentence.

2013
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And then that's when the according to Dawson, Israelis came

2014
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along and said, oh shit, Matt Gates is caught up

2015
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in the scandal. We can get in on this and

2016
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like make it work to our benefit because Matt Gates

2017
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had already like opposed the anti Semitism bill at this point,

2018
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Matt Gates had already sworn off a pac money.

2019
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Speaker 5: This happened after things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so I think it's opportunistic on the point

2021
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of the people who were trying to blackmail him with

2022
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the with the whole Robert Levinson Cia thing.

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01:49:45,000 --> 01:49:47,199
Speaker 6: And that would be their history, right. They don't build anything.

2024
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They come in and they just basically take it over

2025
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and suck it dry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that you said that, Stormy. Stormy says this.

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Speaker 6: Thomas says this all the time. He goes telling Jews

2028
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capitalists is completely wrong. They don't do what capitalists do.

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They don't do what entrepreneurs do. They don't build anything.

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They come in and they take over. They find a

2031
01:50:14,079 --> 01:50:19,760
way to just so we to I hate to use

2032
01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:24,880
these terms because they're so they're cartoonish at the time,

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but they weel their way in and this is the

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kind of thing. This is the kind of thing that happens.

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It's like, oh, okay, so we see that Gates. Gates

2036
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is compromised in some ways. So and he's never we've

2037
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never been able to get anything on him exactly.

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Speaker 5: Now we have this, and if it was really legit,

2039
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then the Justice Department, I mean, you can tell me

2040
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that Merrick Darland, Merrick Garland suddenly the paragon of you know,

2041
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non political persecutions.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: The DOJ has had this right, They've had his Venmo right.

2044
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They used fize courts to get pretty much everybody that

2045
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was part of the original Maggie movement. There's nothing that

2046
01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:09,399
they do not have that he has. So why wasn't

2047
01:51:09,439 --> 01:51:10,720
the case ever brought?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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01:51:13,119 --> 01:51:15,880
Speaker 5: Right, they own the fucking I mean, look, they can

2050
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:20,079
literally make a pretend fake case against Donald Trump and

2051
01:51:20,199 --> 01:51:23,199
get convictions. You're telling me if they had actual evidence.

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Speaker 2: Another thing is I don't mind making constantly referencing Dawson

2053
01:51:29,319 --> 01:51:31,159
because I mean, Dawson's a guy that's around that we

2054
01:51:31,199 --> 01:51:32,720
could just talk to. So I don't really need to

2055
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:35,199
make a show about his show, as he is a.

2056
01:51:35,239 --> 01:51:38,720
Speaker 5: Guy with that that is paramount documentation.

2057
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Speaker 2: Yeah, his his episodes behind a paywall, so I'll give

2058
01:51:43,199 --> 01:51:45,399
him free advertising. All this stuff I'm talking about. Go

2059
01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:48,159
pay for his thing and listen to this episode. He

2060
01:51:48,279 --> 01:51:51,359
makes a really fucking good point. Yeah, yeah, I'm subscribed.

2061
01:51:51,359 --> 01:51:53,720
He's been on my show. He's a great dude. Actually,

2062
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,720
he was gonna come on with us, but it store

2063
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me the first time when we talked about Ukraine. He

2064
01:51:59,359 --> 01:52:01,039
was going to try, but it was we did it

2065
01:52:01,079 --> 01:52:07,680
on his birthday. Oh, anyway, to your points, Stormy, two

2066
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of the girls accusing Gates who were named back in

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twenty twenty one, never came forward. Never. They're like, we

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don't want to have anything to do with this. They

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never came forward, they never testified nothing. Now, all of

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01:52:20,359 --> 01:52:23,479
a sudden, this is in the news, Gates gets the appointment.

2071
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:25,359
All of a sudden, they testify in front of Congress

2072
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a week or two ago. So who talked to them

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between twenty twenty one and now somebody fucking talked to

2074
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them put them up to it. I don't know if they.

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Speaker 6: Picked someone either paid them or had something on them,

2076
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or threatened them. Yeah, their young girls.

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Speaker 5: They're young girls. How hard is it to scare young girls?

2078
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Speaker 6: Yeah? I can't remember if it was Meerscheimer or Jeffrey

2079
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:46,680
Sachs I heard say this, or it could have been

2080
01:52:47,239 --> 01:52:49,560
it was somebody who was on the Polazano Show and

2081
01:52:49,640 --> 01:52:54,600
they were saying, you know, you everyone in everyone in

2082
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:58,199
Congress has an a pack handler, you know, and a

2083
01:52:58,359 --> 01:53:01,319
pack funnels and it is real funnel so much money.

2084
01:53:01,439 --> 01:53:05,079
And I'm like, I don't think it's the money, man.

2085
01:53:05,239 --> 01:53:08,239
I think they have something on everyone. I don't know

2086
01:53:08,279 --> 01:53:12,279
if you caught this, but Tucker recently Tucker interviewed Greenwald

2087
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and Tucker said, he said, you know, I have it

2088
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on good authority. I've been told that all this by

2089
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:22,239
agencies controlled porn Hub and all of these places, and

2090
01:53:22,399 --> 01:53:26,319
they have everybody's history and not only their history on

2091
01:53:26,439 --> 01:53:29,359
what they look at on Pornhub in these places, but

2092
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:30,920
also on dating sites.

2093
01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Gates Gates you seeking arrangements. So whatever whatever

2094
01:53:38,319 --> 01:53:42,600
Gates had, they had, And I think Tucker and Glenn

2095
01:53:42,640 --> 01:53:44,520
Greenwall did that on purpose. I think they put that

2096
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:47,119
episode out because this is how Tucker works, man, This

2097
01:53:47,279 --> 01:53:47,920
is how I mean.

2098
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 6: That's that's every time Douglas Douglas was on Judge Napolitano,

2099
01:53:54,239 --> 01:54:00,840
he's dropping information for somebody else. That's what whenever an

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01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:04,479
episode drops with McGregor on Judge and app It's the

2101
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:06,640
first thing I did. I just stop everything I'm doing

2102
01:54:06,720 --> 01:54:10,920
and I listen, because you're getting information that's not that

2103
01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:12,239
you're not going to get anywhere else.

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01:54:13,079 --> 01:54:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, right on. Well, look, I think we have to.

2105
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:22,000
But I don't know. That was my question for.

2106
01:54:25,119 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 5: He's barely actually had. Poor guy doesn't have anything to

2107
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:28,399
talk about.

2108
01:54:29,079 --> 01:54:29,800
Speaker 2: No, I don't really have.

2109
01:54:31,199 --> 01:54:35,800
Speaker 3: Well, I was for me, yeah, I do.

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01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:37,960
Speaker 5: That was your question? Was your question the Gates one?

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01:54:38,079 --> 01:54:38,119
Speaker 4: No?

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01:54:38,199 --> 01:54:41,520
Speaker 2: No, no, my my my question for Pete was going

2113
01:54:41,600 --> 01:54:43,800
to be who's going to replace Gates?

2114
01:54:45,279 --> 01:54:46,119
Speaker 5: Burton? What do you think?

2115
01:54:47,479 --> 01:54:47,600
Speaker 3: Uh?

2116
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,279
Speaker 4: My thought is And I cannot remember the guy's name,

2117
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:54,960
but the like the deputy or the second demand the

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01:54:55,039 --> 01:54:58,760
ag was also nominated, and I believed he was Trump's

2119
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:02,199
personal lawyer. To me, that seems to be a direct

2120
01:55:02,279 --> 01:55:05,399
shoe in the trend I'm identifying in all of this,

2121
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:12,239
right is beyond you know, any person's personal politics right in,

2122
01:55:12,359 --> 01:55:15,479
no worries, but it seems like the dividing line through

2123
01:55:15,479 --> 01:55:18,119
all of these is complete and total loyalty to Trump.

2124
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 3: Right now.

2125
01:55:19,000 --> 01:55:21,760
Speaker 4: Obviously Gates had that, I would have liked to see

2126
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:24,359
Gates in there, if for no other reason than it

2127
01:55:24,439 --> 01:55:27,640
makes progressives cope and seed. But to be honest, if

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01:55:27,680 --> 01:55:30,479
the guy's been working for Trump this entire time has

2129
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:33,640
stuck through all of this insane law fair, well, it's

2130
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:37,560
a pretty good sign that he does what's what he's told, right,

2131
01:55:37,640 --> 01:55:40,760
that he's not leaving Trump. And so through all of

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01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:43,920
these the through line I see, you know, whether we

2133
01:55:44,000 --> 01:55:47,479
talk about Heiggs, Seth or any of these guys, I mean,

2134
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:50,640
I care about their personal politics, right, but it seems

2135
01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:53,520
to me in every case they are Trump loyalists. And

2136
01:55:53,720 --> 01:55:57,760
to me, the ultimate test in this is basically, some

2137
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:01,279
sort of crisis is manufactured where there is a I

2138
01:56:01,319 --> 01:56:04,520
don't mean to say artificial. A crisis occurs and there's

2139
01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:10,640
a disagreement between Trump's two supporting factions, right, the traditional

2140
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:15,000
Republican Zionist base and Trump's new friends in Silicon Valley.

2141
01:56:15,479 --> 01:56:17,920
And if that crisis comes about, right, there is a

2142
01:56:19,079 --> 01:56:23,560
mutually exclusive situation, right zero some days try and make

2143
01:56:23,640 --> 01:56:28,880
that happen exactly. Well, what one who does Trump go with?

2144
01:56:29,319 --> 01:56:32,680
And two the people under Trump do they like Benjamin

2145
01:56:32,720 --> 01:56:35,159
met and Yahoo more or Trump more? And I think

2146
01:56:35,199 --> 01:56:36,600
that's really the important question.

2147
01:56:36,920 --> 01:56:40,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, you should jump into the comments section of any

2148
01:56:40,479 --> 01:56:45,640
of these normal APAC the Senator and APAC congressman posters

2149
01:56:45,640 --> 01:56:48,239
about their support for Israel, and you see what these

2150
01:56:48,359 --> 01:56:52,399
mega guys are saying, and they're not happy.

2151
01:56:53,039 --> 01:56:54,279
Speaker 6: Here's something to talk about.

2152
01:56:54,319 --> 01:56:54,560
Speaker 3: Okay.

2153
01:56:54,600 --> 01:56:59,279
Speaker 6: So Todd blanche is who he names his deputy if

2154
01:56:59,359 --> 01:57:02,279
he slides up. Okay, we know we've already talked about this.

2155
01:57:02,560 --> 01:57:05,920
He's worked, He's worked in the Southern District of New York.

2156
01:57:06,279 --> 01:57:10,000
He's clerked for two federal judges. He's worked at, you know,

2157
01:57:10,159 --> 01:57:12,920
two of the biggest law firms in the country. Here's

2158
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:16,039
what I missed the first time. In that same announcement,

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01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:19,760
he had put behind him, which would be the deputy,

2160
01:57:20,720 --> 01:57:25,359
the principal associate's a deputy Attorney general would be Emil Bove.

2161
01:57:26,439 --> 01:57:32,000
Emil Bove is a you know, like Seneca Falls, New

2162
01:57:32,079 --> 01:57:32,560
York guy.

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01:57:33,199 --> 01:57:33,319
Speaker 3: Uh.

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01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:39,079
Speaker 6: His father was was assistant New York Attorney General. He

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01:57:39,159 --> 01:57:44,239
went to Mendus Academy, Georgetown, Georgetown University School of Law.

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01:57:45,039 --> 01:57:47,840
He worked at the Southern District as well. While there,

2167
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:52,760
he led unit persecutions against Nicholas Maduro Sesarsayak Tony Hernandez

2168
01:57:52,800 --> 01:57:57,960
Fabio Lobo. He became a partner at Blanche Law, which

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01:57:58,039 --> 01:58:01,640
is the law firm that Todd Blench established. He's also

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01:58:01,840 --> 01:58:07,680
another one, He's what's his name's uh, he's another one

2171
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:11,279
of Trump's lawyers. So basically he had two people waiting

2172
01:58:11,359 --> 01:58:15,399
in the wings who are his lawyers, his loyalists, and

2173
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:21,720
people who have worked in the biggest you know done

2174
01:58:22,600 --> 01:58:25,199
you know, gone up against some of the biggest criminals,

2175
01:58:25,239 --> 01:58:27,000
you know, one of the biggest criminals in the world.

2176
01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:34,159
And also he's I mean, you couldn't find two people

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01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:40,359
who are more experienced in doing the kind of things

2178
01:58:40,560 --> 01:58:43,079
that Trump would want to do if he does invoke

2179
01:58:43,159 --> 01:58:45,840
that article to privilege when it comes to using his

2180
01:58:45,960 --> 01:58:47,760
attorney general against certain people.

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01:58:49,920 --> 01:58:55,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think this is uh, this is actually what

2182
01:58:55,880 --> 01:58:58,600
we should be talking about, because who does more work

2183
01:58:59,159 --> 01:59:03,439
in the dog Is it Merrick Garland or is it

2184
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:06,399
the people that are underneath him, right, the deputies of

2185
01:59:06,479 --> 01:59:10,439
like let's say, the Civil Rights Division, which has you know,

2186
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:14,359
been really good at throwing Christians in jail for protesting

2187
01:59:14,520 --> 01:59:19,840
outside of for praying outside of abortion clinics, or it's

2188
01:59:20,079 --> 01:59:22,880
the what's the other one? There's two arms of the

2189
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:27,760
DOJ that has basically become political persecution operations. It's one

2190
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:32,680
is the Civil Rights Division, and there's another one. But

2191
01:59:33,439 --> 01:59:35,520
these people that we're talking about are going to be

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01:59:35,600 --> 01:59:37,920
the ones that are going to head the divisions that

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01:59:38,079 --> 01:59:42,119
actually do the gnarly stuff that actually, you know, go

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01:59:42,319 --> 01:59:48,479
after people. The AG himself isn't necessarily that guy. The

2195
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:51,520
deputies to me are far more important. Right. It's like

2196
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:53,960
the guy who's taking over the Southern District of New York.

2197
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:59,920
Southern District of New York is the most corrupt federal

2198
02:00:00,439 --> 02:00:07,199
judiciary jurisdiction in the country, right, like fucking bailouts SDN Y, Epstein,

2199
02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:12,000
SDN Y. Right, whenever they want to cover something up, right,

2200
02:00:12,039 --> 02:00:14,319
they tried to do it with the Trump assass assassin

2201
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:19,079
right federal, and once it's federal, we're going to bring

2202
02:00:19,119 --> 02:00:23,079
it to the court that we control above all others,

2203
02:00:24,359 --> 02:00:27,640
and that's the Southern District of New York. And the

2204
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:32,880
fact that Trump put who he puts in SDN Y

2205
02:00:33,880 --> 02:00:38,399
is insane, Like it's amazing, Pete, I'll give you a

2206
02:00:38,439 --> 02:00:40,319
full a little bit and I'll jump in on top

2207
02:00:40,359 --> 02:00:41,880
of that. Astro wants us to go on for a

2208
02:00:41,880 --> 02:00:42,800
little bit longer if we can.

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02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:43,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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02:00:44,199 --> 02:00:47,159
Speaker 6: No, I mean when you look at when you look

2211
02:00:47,199 --> 02:00:50,680
at who these deputies are, who were who were supposed

2212
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:57,079
to be behind gates, I mean these are like these

2213
02:00:57,119 --> 02:01:00,840
are assassins when it comes to legal when it comes

2214
02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:09,680
to prosecuting the investigation. I mean, I'm I'm looking at

2215
02:01:09,720 --> 02:01:12,279
this right now, and I mean, what's funny is his

2216
02:01:12,479 --> 02:01:15,039
like his undergrad, this guy a mil Bouv. His undergrad

2217
02:01:15,119 --> 02:01:18,199
was like at a Sunni school, It's like Suny Albany.

2218
02:01:18,840 --> 02:01:22,760
But I mean he went to Georgetown. I mean really, yeah,

2219
02:01:23,079 --> 02:01:26,800
I think we know what Georgetown is. And yeah, you

2220
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:32,159
know he's like a he's Emil Bove the third. I

2221
02:01:32,239 --> 02:01:36,279
mean he I think that's why, that's why the sunny

2222
02:01:36,359 --> 02:01:40,880
thing made it is funny to me. But he was

2223
02:01:40,960 --> 02:01:45,199
a look lacrosse team, captain of the lacrosse team. I mean,

2224
02:01:46,159 --> 02:01:51,439
this is these are guys who they These are the

2225
02:01:51,479 --> 02:01:52,880
guys who know how to get shipped done.

2226
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:53,119
Speaker 5: Now.

2227
02:01:53,159 --> 02:01:55,000
Speaker 6: I don't know what name Bov is. I don't know

2228
02:01:55,039 --> 02:01:57,079
if he's you know, if he's wasted royalty, but he's

2229
02:01:57,159 --> 02:02:01,960
definitely he's definitely been around along a long time. His

2230
02:02:02,079 --> 02:02:06,319
family has been around a long time, and yeah, it's uh,

2231
02:02:07,680 --> 02:02:12,720
apparently they helped to get Maduro's brother and convicted in

2232
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:18,079
a drug case here his son Maduro.

2233
02:02:18,159 --> 02:02:18,520
Speaker 1: I mean.

2234
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:21,880
Speaker 6: This is interesting because.

2235
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:24,880
Speaker 5: Especially with your thesis around Marco Rubio, that is very interesting.

2236
02:02:25,079 --> 02:02:28,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is very interesting. And also who has who

2237
02:02:28,960 --> 02:02:31,680
has Eric Prince? You know, when it comes to the

2238
02:02:31,720 --> 02:02:35,439
Western hemisphere, what country has Eric Prince most been talking about?

2239
02:02:36,239 --> 02:02:42,720
And talking about? Venezuela over and over again? So this

2240
02:02:42,920 --> 02:02:47,119
is uh, I can't believe I missed his name the

2241
02:02:47,239 --> 02:02:52,520
first time. And that when you when you start going

2242
02:02:52,600 --> 02:02:55,359
into these people's backgrounds and everything and you see that,

2243
02:02:56,119 --> 02:02:58,319
you know it's this is a weird thing too, is

2244
02:02:58,520 --> 02:03:00,199
you know? And I mean I know that this could

2245
02:03:00,199 --> 02:03:03,319
be just a bunch of cope and everything, but the

2246
02:03:03,399 --> 02:03:05,640
fact that he picks the deputy and then he picks

2247
02:03:05,720 --> 02:03:08,439
the associates of the deputy, and the associates of the

2248
02:03:08,520 --> 02:03:14,520
deputy works for the deputy, I mean, it looks like

2249
02:03:14,640 --> 02:03:17,840
he's he's going for loyalty, like loyalty is the only

2250
02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:18,840
thing he cares about here.

2251
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:23,079
Speaker 5: Yep. And the guy from the age or sorry, the

2252
02:03:23,119 --> 02:03:26,079
Southern District of New York, that guy, right, he was

2253
02:03:26,159 --> 02:03:32,319
the former head of sec right step down, Yeah, ja yeah.

2254
02:03:32,439 --> 02:03:37,760
Jake Clayton. J Clayton comes from Sulliban Cromo, which is

2255
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:40,279
a name that everybody. If you're going to pretend to

2256
02:03:40,359 --> 02:03:42,600
talk about politics and you don't know who this law

2257
02:03:42,680 --> 02:03:44,880
firm is, then you don't know a lot about politics.

2258
02:03:45,279 --> 02:03:50,600
You just think you do, right, because no law, no entity,

2259
02:03:51,119 --> 02:03:57,079
no private institution has been so influential on American politics

2260
02:03:57,119 --> 02:04:00,600
in the last one hundred years as Cromwell.

2261
02:04:01,720 --> 02:04:01,840
Speaker 3: Right.

2262
02:04:01,880 --> 02:04:03,720
Speaker 5: And if this is the first time you've heard that name,

2263
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:07,760
you've got a lot of digging to do. Right. How

2264
02:04:07,800 --> 02:04:13,159
about guys like John Foster, Dulles and Alan Dulles? Where

2265
02:04:13,199 --> 02:04:18,159
did they come from? They came from Sullivan Cromwell. Right.

2266
02:04:19,159 --> 02:04:21,800
Another gentleman what's his name who jumped out of a

2267
02:04:21,880 --> 02:04:30,720
building for yeah? Or how about the wild Bill Donovan?

2268
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:34,079
Where wild Bill Donovan come from? The creator of the

2269
02:04:34,159 --> 02:04:40,199
oss Oh, that's right, Sullivan Cromwell. And I'm probably forgetting

2270
02:04:41,279 --> 02:04:45,840
dozens of other people, right, But who ran who? Who runs?

2271
02:04:45,840 --> 02:04:48,359
Sullivan Cromwell was sold like Sulvan Cromwell is like one

2272
02:04:48,399 --> 02:04:50,359
of their only clients at the time of John Foster

2273
02:04:50,479 --> 02:04:54,720
and Alan dullish, we're great Americans. Anybody who's listening to that,

2274
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:58,159
can you know there's two ways you got here. You

2275
02:04:58,199 --> 02:05:01,920
either got here because libertarian po politics didn't work, or

2276
02:05:02,199 --> 02:05:05,840
you're a conspirat hard guy that finally made it to

2277
02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:09,119
the bottom of the only rabbit hole that matters. And

2278
02:05:09,239 --> 02:05:11,760
that's how you got here. And if you came in

2279
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:15,680
through the conspirat hard youah nothing wrong with it. That's

2280
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:17,159
largely how I got to where I was.

2281
02:05:18,880 --> 02:05:23,039
Speaker 6: So here this is some interesting stuff. So two days

2282
02:05:23,039 --> 02:05:28,039
ago Bloomberg Bloomberg Law dot com did an article Trump's

2283
02:05:28,039 --> 02:05:31,840
own lawyers induced fear faith fear faith at Justice Department.

2284
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:34,880
It says here Donald Trump's election of his personal lawyers

2285
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:38,479
for top Justice Department post is raising alarms about the

2286
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:42,199
pressure these two former federal prosecutors may face to do

2287
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:47,920
their former clients bidding by targeting political opponents. Todd Blanche

2288
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:51,600
and Emil Bow appointed for Deputy Attorney General and Principal

2289
02:05:51,640 --> 02:05:56,239
Associate dag respective, were well regarded assistant US attorneys and

2290
02:05:56,279 --> 02:05:59,960
supervisors in the Southern District of New York. Nine Alumni

2291
02:06:00,239 --> 02:06:03,960
of the office set in interviews Blanche's background combating violent

2292
02:06:04,119 --> 02:06:09,560
crime and gangs, and boths focus on national security make

2293
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:13,880
them reassuring, contrasting what Trump's Attorney general pick now, which

2294
02:06:14,000 --> 02:06:18,079
is gone, make them reassuring choices because they're already seeing

2295
02:06:18,119 --> 02:06:21,399
them as like a backup plan. Still, the duo's close

2296
02:06:21,479 --> 02:06:24,880
ties to Trump are fueling fears among Department veterans about

2297
02:06:24,920 --> 02:06:27,319
how they'll handle the land mines awaiting them under a

2298
02:06:27,399 --> 02:06:31,239
new president who's threatened to use the Department to punish enemies.

2299
02:06:32,199 --> 02:06:37,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, who gave Trump those thirty six felonies? Who's Alvin

2300
02:06:37,399 --> 02:06:38,520
Brad guy? Yeah?

2301
02:06:40,239 --> 02:06:40,359
Speaker 4: Right.

2302
02:06:41,399 --> 02:06:47,760
Speaker 5: Sdn Y is where the political corruption happens, the political persecution, right.

2303
02:06:47,880 --> 02:06:51,079
So the guy that Jane mister Clayton his pick for

2304
02:06:51,279 --> 02:07:03,000
sdn Y, Right, his background is particularly Wall Street wrongdoing,

2305
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:10,680
organized crime, drug brings, political corruption, and terrorism. Its most

2306
02:07:11,720 --> 02:07:15,279
the sdn y's most high profile cases in recent years.

2307
02:07:15,319 --> 02:07:19,880
This is probably just the last five. Sam bankmin freed

2308
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:27,039
the case around US Senator Bob Mendez right from Maryland.

2309
02:07:27,520 --> 02:07:30,279
So I was a case that they want to cover up,

2310
02:07:30,399 --> 02:07:32,720
doesn't matter where in the country it matter, it happens,

2311
02:07:32,800 --> 02:07:36,439
doesn't matter, will get made federal and then brought to

2312
02:07:36,640 --> 02:07:39,840
the sdn Y because the sdn Y is like the

2313
02:07:39,920 --> 02:07:44,079
citadel of power. It is the most powerful attorney General's

2314
02:07:44,119 --> 02:07:48,479
office in the United States. So Sam Bankman, Freed, Jeffrey Epstein,

2315
02:07:48,960 --> 02:07:53,399
Bob Mendez, and Sean Diddy Combs just the most recent

2316
02:07:53,479 --> 02:07:57,359
ones since twenty nineteen, twenty eighteen. Do you know how

2317
02:07:57,479 --> 02:08:00,880
much dirt is in the bowel of sdn Y.

2318
02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:04,720
Speaker 3: Right.

2319
02:08:05,199 --> 02:08:10,840
Speaker 5: This is also the same guy that went after intelligence

2320
02:08:10,920 --> 02:08:17,359
operative Bernie made Off and shut down Bernie made Off.

2321
02:08:17,479 --> 02:08:25,520
That's very interesting, right, He is a very very interesting guy.

2322
02:08:26,359 --> 02:08:29,039
He has also tangled with Elon Musk in the past.

2323
02:08:30,760 --> 02:08:33,600
All Right, So this guy isn't you know when he

2324
02:08:33,800 --> 02:08:38,680
was at when he was at SEC, he actually went

2325
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:45,199
after Musk. Musk had to step aside as chairman because

2326
02:08:45,279 --> 02:08:48,960
of the you know, because of Clayton. So obviously Musk

2327
02:08:49,079 --> 02:08:53,279
is not a huge fan of him, right, But apparently

2328
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:57,680
he's got a job to do, and apparently that job

2329
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:01,920
to do is perfectly okay in the eyes of Elon Musk.

2330
02:09:04,439 --> 02:09:05,960
So that should tell you something. A guy that went

2331
02:09:06,039 --> 02:09:12,760
after Elon Musk is now is now Trump's pick for

2332
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:17,199
the only federal judicial jurisdiction that could actually do something.

2333
02:09:18,760 --> 02:09:22,000
Speaker 2: That's part So like all of Trump's power is to

2334
02:09:22,079 --> 02:09:24,199
make make I'm just saying that's part of what Trump's.

2335
02:09:24,359 --> 02:09:27,760
Trump's power is he makes people like that work together. Yeah,

2336
02:09:27,760 --> 02:09:30,039
it makes them want to work together. It's not that

2337
02:09:30,159 --> 02:09:32,399
he forces them. He makes them want to work together

2338
02:09:32,520 --> 02:09:33,000
for Trump.

2339
02:09:33,880 --> 02:09:37,600
Speaker 5: This is the other thing about Trump that just everyone misses. Right,

2340
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:43,960
the Republican Party does not exist right design This neoconservative people,

2341
02:09:44,039 --> 02:09:47,720
they don't exist anymore. They don't have power right now.

2342
02:09:47,880 --> 02:09:49,640
The only way that they can get power. This is

2343
02:09:49,720 --> 02:09:52,399
a group of people that have controlled the Republican Party

2344
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:57,039
for the last eighty years, not really in reality, the

2345
02:09:57,119 --> 02:10:03,119
last forty years. Right, they control Republican politics, but not

2346
02:10:03,199 --> 02:10:08,479
anymore now. The zionists and the neocons they have to

2347
02:10:08,560 --> 02:10:17,279
go and lobby and show field present gifts right to

2348
02:10:17,399 --> 02:10:23,359
President Trump exactly. I love it, man, right, understand, Yeah, Well,

2349
02:10:23,479 --> 02:10:26,199
this is what they're not. They don't understand. Like, it's

2350
02:10:26,359 --> 02:10:29,720
not that Trump is a neoconn or he is a Zionist.

2351
02:10:30,520 --> 02:10:34,319
Trump has his own Trump's base, and the loyalty of

2352
02:10:34,479 --> 02:10:38,520
his base creates a new political dynamic that America hasn't

2353
02:10:38,520 --> 02:10:42,600
seen in a really long time. Right. If Donald Trump

2354
02:10:42,960 --> 02:10:45,720
says I'm not a member of the Republican Party anymore.

2355
02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:49,119
I want nothing to do with it. The Republican Party

2356
02:10:49,199 --> 02:10:53,800
will get zero votes. Every Republican congressman is going to

2357
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:57,520
get zero votes, every Republican senator zero votes. Any other

2358
02:10:57,640 --> 02:11:02,079
Republican presidential ticket is going to get zero votes. There

2359
02:11:02,199 --> 02:11:05,600
is no more Republican Party. Right, if you're a senator

2360
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:08,279
and you're a congressman, which is this is something that's

2361
02:11:08,319 --> 02:11:10,720
really fucking important. Everybody means to fucking pay attention to this.

2362
02:11:11,359 --> 02:11:15,640
All right, Guess how many Congressmen are going to be

2363
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:19,479
up for election in twenty twenty six A metric fuck ton?

2364
02:11:20,920 --> 02:11:22,760
How many Senators are going to be up for reelection

2365
02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:27,039
in twenty twenty six? A metric fuck ton? And if

2366
02:11:27,159 --> 02:11:33,840
you are running for either election or reelection, right, you

2367
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:36,760
know you can't run on the DNC ticket because everyone

2368
02:11:36,880 --> 02:11:41,000
hates you. Okay, So that means the only ticket in town. Right,

2369
02:11:41,079 --> 02:11:44,840
So the only way you can get into government is

2370
02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:47,159
if you run in the Republican ticket. Okay, Well what

2371
02:11:47,199 --> 02:11:50,479
does that look like? Well, that looks like if Donald

2372
02:11:50,479 --> 02:11:58,880
Trump doesn't personally himself bless your campaign, you don't get elected. Right,

2373
02:11:58,960 --> 02:12:02,319
So that means it doesn't matter. Like Miriam Needleson didn't

2374
02:12:02,399 --> 02:12:07,039
fucking buy Donald Trump for one hundred million dollars. That

2375
02:12:07,279 --> 02:12:15,000
didn't happen. That's not real. Yeah, Given all that, if

2376
02:12:15,039 --> 02:12:18,119
you are this person that can literally wave his hand

2377
02:12:18,600 --> 02:12:23,119
and you decide whether a person gets elected or doesn't

2378
02:12:23,119 --> 02:12:27,359
get elected, right, that means you have more power than

2379
02:12:27,399 --> 02:12:31,520
a pack apac doesn't mean anything. Right, It doesn't matter

2380
02:12:31,560 --> 02:12:35,119
how much money apack spends on you. If Donald Trump

2381
02:12:35,199 --> 02:12:39,039
doesn't wave his hand over you, sprinkle you with holy

2382
02:12:39,119 --> 02:12:43,640
water and bless you, you're not getting into government. You're

2383
02:12:43,680 --> 02:12:47,920
not getting elected. That makes Trump the most powerful person

2384
02:12:48,119 --> 02:12:49,520
in a monarchical sense.

2385
02:12:50,479 --> 02:12:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also can you mean on the show

2386
02:12:55,000 --> 02:12:55,199
on the.

2387
02:12:55,239 --> 02:12:57,479
Speaker 5: Miry Madelson, there's nothing that fucking pisses me off of

2388
02:12:57,600 --> 02:13:00,479
how dumb guys in the right are about pop politics?

2389
02:13:01,720 --> 02:13:09,199
All Right, Miriam Madelson pledged one hundred million dollars. I

2390
02:13:09,319 --> 02:13:13,399
could pledge to give Astral one hundred million dollars, But

2391
02:13:13,520 --> 02:13:16,960
how much am I obligated to give Astral zero dollars?

2392
02:13:18,439 --> 02:13:18,560
Speaker 6: Right?

2393
02:13:19,039 --> 02:13:21,840
Speaker 5: So one hundred million dollar pledge is not one hundred

2394
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:25,000
million dollar donation. If you notice, there's a big difference

2395
02:13:25,039 --> 02:13:29,039
in the words that they used, pledge and donation. Who

2396
02:13:29,279 --> 02:13:30,600
actually donated money?

2397
02:13:31,279 --> 02:13:31,359
Speaker 3: All?

2398
02:13:31,399 --> 02:13:34,079
Speaker 5: Right, Marymadelson about thirty million of that actually came in

2399
02:13:34,239 --> 02:13:39,520
so high five for her. Right, Unless you know the

2400
02:13:39,640 --> 02:13:43,680
name Timothy Mellon, you are not in the fucking game.

2401
02:13:45,039 --> 02:13:48,479
Unless you know the name Timothy Melon, then you don't

2402
02:13:48,520 --> 02:13:53,119
know fuck all because Timothy Mellon. Right, If you say, oh,

2403
02:13:53,199 --> 02:13:56,159
the Jews control politics. Right, you can take all of

2404
02:13:56,239 --> 02:14:00,159
their donations, including Miriamadleson's thirty million dollars, you add them

2405
02:14:00,199 --> 02:14:04,920
all up, they don't equal Timothy Melons one hundred and

2406
02:14:05,000 --> 02:14:12,279
forty million dollar actual donation to Donald Trump. Right, That

2407
02:14:12,439 --> 02:14:18,159
is wasp aristocracy. This is my people, right. The Mellon

2408
02:14:18,279 --> 02:14:24,560
family is up there with the Rockefeller family, the Melon family.

2409
02:14:25,159 --> 02:14:27,399
The reason you don't know who the Melon family is

2410
02:14:27,960 --> 02:14:30,159
when if we were to rewind the clock, you know,

2411
02:14:30,399 --> 02:14:33,560
before World War Two, every person in America knew who

2412
02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:36,279
the Melon family was. Why don't they know that now?

2413
02:14:36,520 --> 02:14:40,359
Because the Melons, the people the Melon family got pushed

2414
02:14:40,399 --> 02:14:43,199
out of power by the same people that pushed the

2415
02:14:43,279 --> 02:14:47,039
rest of the wasps out of power. They know who

2416
02:14:47,119 --> 02:14:50,479
these people are. The Mellon family knows well how they

2417
02:14:50,560 --> 02:14:53,359
got politically disenfranchised, just like I know, and just like

2418
02:14:53,439 --> 02:14:57,119
everyone of Pete's listeners knows. Right, So that's the guy

2419
02:14:57,159 --> 02:14:59,680
that actually made the largest donation. So if we're going

2420
02:14:59,720 --> 02:15:03,560
to say, all of a sudden, that is real controls

2421
02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:07,600
Trump because of Mary and Natlsen's donation, Okay, well, if

2422
02:15:07,680 --> 02:15:10,159
that is actually true, let's take your paradigm as truth,

2423
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:16,159
then that means she got out bid by Timothy Mellon.

2424
02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:20,720
Because if you're telling me donation equals political control over

2425
02:15:20,800 --> 02:15:24,960
a person, then Timothy Mellon actually has control over Donald

2426
02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:31,199
Trump because he spent more money than Mary Natleson. Anyways,

2427
02:15:32,239 --> 02:15:35,119
that's what drives me fucking nuts. It drives me nuts.

2428
02:15:35,800 --> 02:15:38,039
Speaker 2: I love it. I'm the same page. And all I

2429
02:15:38,159 --> 02:15:39,479
was trying I was I was trying.

2430
02:15:39,319 --> 02:15:42,720
Speaker 5: To say, is that and go listen to the podcasts.

2431
02:15:43,479 --> 02:15:47,319
Speaker 2: He's a he's a counterweight to the Israel lobby.

2432
02:15:47,399 --> 02:15:49,680
Speaker 3: He's not a single man.

2433
02:15:50,239 --> 02:15:53,319
Speaker 2: Yes, he's not owned by the Jews. Yeah, a single man.

2434
02:15:53,399 --> 02:15:55,359
This is this is why I talk about Trump in

2435
02:15:55,520 --> 02:15:59,479
terms of Caesarism, Like it seems like really pie in

2436
02:15:59,560 --> 02:16:02,359
the sky way to talk about politics, to talk about caesars,

2437
02:16:02,399 --> 02:16:05,520
And but that's how he functions and the.

2438
02:16:05,520 --> 02:16:09,359
Speaker 5: Other personal capital. His political capital is entirely self made.

2439
02:16:09,800 --> 02:16:11,439
His loyalty is entirely self made.

2440
02:16:11,880 --> 02:16:14,199
Speaker 4: Well. And I think that there's something interesting too, is

2441
02:16:14,279 --> 02:16:19,880
that we've seen a swamp from institutional loyalty to personal

2442
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:23,760
loyalty rights sort of at the basis of all of this, Right,

2443
02:16:24,359 --> 02:16:27,800
like how many people were voting for you know, John

2444
02:16:27,880 --> 02:16:30,359
McCain because he was John McCain, and how many were

2445
02:16:30,479 --> 02:16:32,159
voting for him because he was a Republican.

2446
02:16:32,799 --> 02:16:32,959
Speaker 3: Right.

2447
02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:36,000
Speaker 4: On the other hand, how many people are voting for

2448
02:16:36,079 --> 02:16:38,760
Trump because he's a Republican. Certainly there are some in

2449
02:16:38,879 --> 02:16:44,399
both cases, right, But Trump has personal loyalty, right. And

2450
02:16:44,520 --> 02:16:46,959
you see this even in how the kind of like

2451
02:16:47,079 --> 02:16:50,600
deranged blue and non leftists talk about MAGA, Right, they

2452
02:16:50,680 --> 02:16:53,280
talk about it as a cult Trump, and they're not

2453
02:16:53,559 --> 02:16:57,159
entirely wrong, Nope, Right, They are loyal to him as

2454
02:16:57,159 --> 02:16:58,920
a man. And I think when we're talking about these

2455
02:16:58,959 --> 02:17:03,600
staffing picks, we're seeing guys who are personally loyal, which

2456
02:17:03,639 --> 02:17:06,239
I think is much more important than this kind of

2457
02:17:06,360 --> 02:17:11,200
like fake, fake post war consensus belief in institutions.

2458
02:17:11,920 --> 02:17:12,079
Speaker 3: Uh.

2459
02:17:12,719 --> 02:17:14,600
Speaker 4: I know, we're running out of time, and I'm going

2460
02:17:14,680 --> 02:17:16,440
to need to wrap up. But I just thought that

2461
02:17:16,520 --> 02:17:18,280
was important to get in there. Jay, I think that's

2462
02:17:18,319 --> 02:17:21,000
an important post. Does Elon Musk? Does Elon Musk have

2463
02:17:21,120 --> 02:17:23,920
loyalty in the Republican Party? Oh certainly not right, he

2464
02:17:23,920 --> 02:17:26,000
doesn't care, so he's loyal to.

2465
02:17:26,319 --> 02:17:27,280
Speaker 5: Donald Trump.

2466
02:17:29,639 --> 02:17:30,040
Speaker 4: Exactly.

2467
02:17:31,200 --> 02:17:34,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, Listen, we're in a new place.

2468
02:17:35,879 --> 02:17:39,000
Speaker 2: This conversation is not over, but Pete has now. I

2469
02:17:39,120 --> 02:17:41,319
have to go for sure, and everybody has to go.

2470
02:17:42,159 --> 02:17:45,200
So for those of you who've made it this far,

2471
02:17:45,520 --> 02:17:48,319
go to the show notes. Because everything so Stormy is

2472
02:17:48,360 --> 02:17:50,959
spitting hot fire. I mean, Stormy is fucking gold. Stormy

2473
02:17:51,040 --> 02:17:53,719
is the fucking nuclear hydrogen bond we got in our

2474
02:17:53,760 --> 02:17:55,799
back pocket. In my opinion, I think everybody.

2475
02:17:55,719 --> 02:17:58,000
Speaker 5: Knows retarded with a really strange memory.

2476
02:17:58,760 --> 02:18:03,200
Speaker 2: So go I remember Stormy. Stormy has watched my political

2477
02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:07,200
arc go from being like right wing to like far right.

2478
02:18:07,399 --> 02:18:09,760
He's watched the whole fucking thing go down. I remember

2479
02:18:09,799 --> 02:18:12,040
one of the first things I ever said to Stormy was,

2480
02:18:13,239 --> 02:18:17,600
Jews basically are like looting. The Jews are basically like

2481
02:18:17,719 --> 02:18:21,360
looting the corpse of a dead American soldier. And he's like, yeah,

2482
02:18:21,399 --> 02:18:22,920
but they're also the ones who shot him in the

2483
02:18:22,959 --> 02:18:27,319
head in the first place, like, oh shit, is it

2484
02:18:27,440 --> 02:18:30,959
really like that? And I'm like, yeah, so so that's Stormy.

2485
02:18:31,079 --> 02:18:34,399
Speaker 5: But you can't. You can't kill America. Man, it's a zombie, right.

2486
02:18:34,600 --> 02:18:38,159
None of all this damage that that they've done is bad,

2487
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:40,760
but all these in all these black pillars, I think

2488
02:18:40,840 --> 02:18:44,079
it's over. It's it's wrong, right, Like, if you don't

2489
02:18:44,159 --> 02:18:47,559
think America can come back from this, then you don't

2490
02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:52,120
know your American history very well. I agree completely said

2491
02:18:52,440 --> 02:18:57,319
any man that bets against America should prepare to go broke.

2492
02:18:58,959 --> 02:19:02,399
Speaker 2: All of that To say, everything Stormy is talking about

2493
02:19:02,479 --> 02:19:06,719
right now, he's he expands upon it for several hours

2494
02:19:06,760 --> 02:19:09,559
on Pete's show. So I'm gonna link in the show notes.

2495
02:19:10,360 --> 02:19:13,520
H what is it called Stormy the Robber Barons.

2496
02:19:14,840 --> 02:19:18,159
Speaker 6: The name of that episode and to Save America.

2497
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:22,440
Speaker 2: If you haven't listened to those yet, listen to them

2498
02:19:22,520 --> 02:19:26,680
now and you'll see why Stormy is dropping bombs.

2499
02:19:27,280 --> 02:19:27,399
Speaker 3: Uh.

2500
02:19:27,680 --> 02:19:28,680
Speaker 2: Jay Burns got a show.

2501
02:19:29,000 --> 02:19:31,319
Speaker 5: Let Me Sing you the Song of My People.

2502
02:19:32,079 --> 02:19:35,879
Speaker 2: Him and him and Thomas do great work. Pete and

2503
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:39,000
Thomas do great work. Go to the show notes there'll

2504
02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:42,280
be links to relevant episodes from all these guys shows

2505
02:19:42,319 --> 02:19:45,600
to everything we talked about today, and I gotta go,

2506
02:19:45,719 --> 02:19:47,520
guys a couple weeks, maybe Thomas.

2507
02:19:48,200 --> 02:19:52,120
Speaker 5: Listen to Jane Thomas's Current Events show, which is different

2508
02:19:52,159 --> 02:19:54,719
than Thomas's other podcast that I did not know about,

2509
02:19:54,799 --> 02:19:56,959
and I started listening to it, and it is fantastic.

2510
02:19:58,120 --> 02:20:00,799
Speaker 4: Well, Stormy, you see that, just repeat things. You tell me.

2511
02:20:04,360 --> 02:20:08,639
Speaker 2: Why, Jay, send me a link to those shows, and

2512
02:20:08,719 --> 02:20:10,799
I'll that's that's what I'll put in the show notes.

2513
02:20:11,239 --> 02:20:14,520
All right, sure, as I appreciate it, and god, I'm sorry.

2514
02:20:14,559 --> 02:20:17,360
I don't mean like fucking just railroad everybody, but it's

2515
02:20:17,399 --> 02:20:19,760
like it's like I went over twenty minutes and I

2516
02:20:19,840 --> 02:20:20,120
did not.

2517
02:20:20,959 --> 02:20:23,040
Speaker 5: The Daily Show will already I think they've got the

2518
02:20:23,200 --> 02:20:27,000
name the Death Panel already coined in trademarked, so we'll

2519
02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:29,120
have to come up with something different for Yeah, it

2520
02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:29,879
is a good name.

2521
02:20:30,479 --> 02:20:33,200
Speaker 2: Hey, well, look, you guys and the listeners gonna want

2522
02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:35,159
to hear this. Thomas just put in the chat he

2523
02:20:35,239 --> 02:20:37,520
wants to do this again in two weeks, so so

2524
02:20:37,680 --> 02:20:38,760
everybody stay tuned.

2525
02:20:38,840 --> 02:20:41,879
Speaker 5: All right, all right, talk to you boys later. It's

2526
02:20:41,879 --> 02:20:43,879
always fun, gentlemen.

2527
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:02,040
Speaker 4: S