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<v Speaker 1>What's up everyone, and welcome back to the program. Newsweek

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<v Speaker 1>has an article out that's giving us some more information,

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<v Speaker 1>and filling in a couple of more blanks at least,

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<v Speaker 1>about what went down in Moscow, Idaho. Now of course,

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<v Speaker 1>we still don't have a suspect, we don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>person of interest, but the police have ruled out one

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<v Speaker 1>person at least, or at least say he's not a

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<v Speaker 1>suspect at this time, and that's the person that was

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<v Speaker 1>in the hoodie near the food truck. And I guess

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<v Speaker 1>there was an ongoing opinion amongst some of the mavens

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<v Speaker 1>that run around and call themselves detectives that they thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was this guy. Well, the police have ruled him out.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's also a few other tidbits that I found interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get into this article and let's get caught

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<v Speaker 1>up real quick and see where things stand. This article

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<v Speaker 1>was published by Newsweek.com. Headline, Idaho Student Murders Live Updates.

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<v Speaker 1>Case Using Most Resources Prosecutor Has Ever Seen. This article

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<v Speaker 1>was authored by Lauren Giela and Megan Ruse. Case Using

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<v Speaker 1>Most Resources Prosecutor Has Ever Seen. Lotta County Prosecutor Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson said, told the Spokane, Washington-based news station KXLY that

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<v Speaker 1>the murders last weekend of four University of Idaho students

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<v Speaker 1>involves a volume of investigative resources he hasn't seen before

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<v Speaker 1>in the three decades he spent in the prosecutor's office.

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<v Speaker 1>So that signals to me, at least, that they're working

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<v Speaker 1>overtime here to figure out what went on and to

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<v Speaker 1>bring somebody to justice. The city of Moscow Police Department,

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<v Speaker 1>the Idaho State Police and the FBI are all working

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<v Speaker 1>on the case. These law enforcement agencies have brought in

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<v Speaker 1>probably more resources than I've ever seen in my 30

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<v Speaker 1>years in Lata County. The Idaho prosecutor told the station

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday. Well, let's hope that that bears some fruit

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<v Speaker 1>because a lot of the family members don't seem to

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<v Speaker 1>think that this investigation is going in the right direction. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not there, I'm not part of the investigation, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm only curating the story. For those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who are just joining me here on the podcast, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a journalist or one of these people who has

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of inside sources or anything like that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just going along with the story, the same way we

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<v Speaker 1>did with Gabby Petito, the same way we do with

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<v Speaker 1>all of these other stories, and try and put the

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<v Speaker 1>pieces together based on what the authorities are telling us. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, obviously a little bit of speculation goes along

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<v Speaker 1>with that. But as far as major speculation on who

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<v Speaker 1>did it or theories about who did it, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>play those games. Because I don't have the information at hand.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is serious business, right? We're not out here

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<v Speaker 1>playing a game of Clue. So it's important to follow

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<v Speaker 1>along and go on what the authorities are telling you. But...

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<v Speaker 1>I will say I have ran into plenty of times

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<v Speaker 1>investigators that really don't seem to have a clue. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that's what's going on here, but when

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<v Speaker 1>the families are saying they're not comfortable or they don't

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<v Speaker 1>like the direction that the investigation is going, that always

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<v Speaker 1>makes me sit up and take notice of what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on and maybe even be a little bit more critical.

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson said he and the responding agencies don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>it happened and whoever is responsible is still out there.

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<v Speaker 1>He said he is hoping to find answers soon. Police

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<v Speaker 1>Friday evening, though they did share an updated map and

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<v Speaker 1>timeline showing four students' movements in the hours before the murders.

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<v Speaker 1>Police asked anyone who believes they may have information to

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<v Speaker 1>contact law enforcement. Thompson told the station that events that

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<v Speaker 1>occurred before the students' bodies were found was crucial information

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<v Speaker 1>for investigators working on the case. And that's just common sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we said earlier, when this all first started, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to rebuild the whole entire day, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>of these poor kids. Where did they go? Who did

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<v Speaker 1>they have contact with? Who did they run into? And

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<v Speaker 1>later on in this story, or in this article, there's

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<v Speaker 1>an interesting bit of information towards that end. And we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have to wait and see a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about that. But it's one of the most interesting

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<v Speaker 1>tidbits that we have received so far. Police look for

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<v Speaker 1>footage near a food truck, according to report. Police in

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<v Speaker 1>Moscow are reportedly searching for surveillance footage in the area

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<v Speaker 1>where two University of Idaho students were spotted in the

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<v Speaker 1>hours before they were stabbed to death. On Friday afternoon,

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Moscow Police Department released an updated map

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<v Speaker 1>and timeline that said two of the victims, Kaylee Goncalves

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<v Speaker 1>and Madison Mogan, were at a food truck along South

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<v Speaker 1>Main Street at about 1.40 a.m. on November 13th. Audrey

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<v Speaker 1>Conklin of Fox News reported that officers were visiting stores

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<v Speaker 1>in the area near the food truck to inquire about

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<v Speaker 1>the existence of surveillance footage that might show the movements

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<v Speaker 1>Goncalves and Mogan made that night. And there's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a whole bunch of this. My guess is that

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<v Speaker 1>they're going after like ring footage as well, personal surveillance footage.

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<v Speaker 1>If people were taking videos, you know, of their friends,

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<v Speaker 1>people live streaming, you know how kids roll in college towns.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm guessing there was some live streaming going on.

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<v Speaker 1>And the police are looking for all of that so

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<v Speaker 1>they can build this foundation of an investigation by recreating

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<v Speaker 1>the steps of these kids. Audrey Conklin of Fox News

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<v Speaker 1>reported that officers were visiting stores in the area near

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<v Speaker 1>the food truck to inquire about the existence of surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>footage that might show the movements Goncalves and Mogan made

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<v Speaker 1>that night. And again, I'm sure they're looking for anything.

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<v Speaker 1>A Twitch video from the food truck showed Goncalves and

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<v Speaker 1>Mogan there early on November 13th. A man dressed in

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<v Speaker 1>a dark jacket and white or light-colored hoodie could be

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<v Speaker 1>seen in the food truck's video. Idaho State Police told

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<v Speaker 1>the Boise-based television news station, KTVB, that officers have spoken

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<v Speaker 1>with the man, seen in the video as part of

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<v Speaker 1>a standard action, and said he has not been identified

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<v Speaker 1>as either suspect or person of interest in the case.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's interesting because there were a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>talking on different forums and stuff and throwing around some

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<v Speaker 1>ideas that this might be the person who did it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always find that to be a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a foolish task to even engage in or a waste

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<v Speaker 1>of time until we have some kind of concrete information.

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<v Speaker 1>then I don't see the purpose in trying to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>point out people who might not have anything to do

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<v Speaker 1>with it and cause them all kinds of chaos in

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<v Speaker 1>their life. And that kind of stuff does happen. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of people out there that shoot from

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<v Speaker 1>the hip without any kind of information, without any kind

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<v Speaker 1>of evidence, and just go hard in the paint. And

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen that explode way too many times in people's faces,

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<v Speaker 1>so I like to reserve my big fat giant opinions

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<v Speaker 1>until we have some evidence to base those opinions on.

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<v Speaker 1>Because remember, the most important thing is justice for these kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But in every case like this, some people just go

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely crazy and get real wild with their speculation and

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<v Speaker 1>all the rest of it. So this is the part

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<v Speaker 1>of the story that I thought was the most interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>And a part of... the overall story that might be

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<v Speaker 1>something that leads somewhere, to be honest with you. Victims

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly called the same person several times. Now, why would

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<v Speaker 1>they call the same person several times right before they

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<v Speaker 1>were killed? And hopefully this person is being brought in

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<v Speaker 1>and talked to by the police, because I would think

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<v Speaker 1>that if these girls are calling you that many times...

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<v Speaker 1>right before this all goes down, that you're somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be talked to, at the very least to

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<v Speaker 1>be ruled out or whatever, right? The sister of one

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<v Speaker 1>University of Idaho student found dead last weekend said several

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<v Speaker 1>calls were placed to the same person early on November 13th,

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<v Speaker 1>the day four students' bodies were found. Olivia Goncalves said

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<v Speaker 1>during an interview with Inside Edition that she is looking

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<v Speaker 1>for information that could help with the case on her own.

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<v Speaker 1>We are not getting any answers and we are not

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<v Speaker 1>going to settle for that, she said. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean when I say it's concerning. When the

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<v Speaker 1>family members aren't getting answers and they're not being assisted

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<v Speaker 1>in the manner that they should be, it's always concerning

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<v Speaker 1>about one of these investigations. Goncalves describes seeking out surveillance

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<v Speaker 1>footage near the home where his sister Kaylee lived. She

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<v Speaker 1>also described a flurry of calls that she said were

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<v Speaker 1>made from her sister's phone to a person named Jack

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<v Speaker 1>between 2 and 3 a.m. on November 13th. So as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I'm concerned, that's the first bit of real

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<v Speaker 1>circumstantial evidence with some legs here. Something that might stand up.

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<v Speaker 1>Because this sounds real weird. Who's this Jack guy and

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<v Speaker 1>why were they calling him so many times? What's the deal?

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<v Speaker 1>What was going on? John Calvis said, Mogan was also

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<v Speaker 1>among the students found dead later that day. So who

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<v Speaker 1>is this Jack character? And have the police brought him

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<v Speaker 1>in to ask him what the deal was? Hey, Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>any idea why these girls who were murdered were calling

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<v Speaker 1>you right before this all went down? And anything you'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to talk to us about, pal? with all of

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<v Speaker 1>the articles we've read, this is the one thing, the

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<v Speaker 1>one piece of information, the one bit of circumstantial evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it doesn't prove anything, right? Could have just

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<v Speaker 1>been who knows what the phone calls were for, but

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<v Speaker 1>that has to be figured out. Law enforcement has to

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<v Speaker 1>dig into that and try and make heads or tails

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<v Speaker 1>from what these phone calls were or what they contained

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<v Speaker 1>and what they were talking about and why so many

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls were fired out to this same person. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not normal. Unless, of course, there's some sort of altercation

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<v Speaker 1>hanging up on the other person. Certainly seems to me

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<v Speaker 1>that of all the things we've talked about so far,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly more than the guy in the surveillance video by

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<v Speaker 1>the food truck anyway. I think that this would be

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<v Speaker 1>something that should be pursued and pursued vigorously. And why

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't the cops be pursuing this? That's weird. So there

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<v Speaker 1>you have it, folks. That's where things stand as of

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<v Speaker 1>right now, as we're recording this at 3.37 p.m. Pacific

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<v Speaker 1>Standard Time on November 18th. And again, this is an

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<v Speaker 1>evolving story with all kinds of twists and turns so far.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll continue to do our best to add these

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<v Speaker 1>little updates here and these new tidbits that we come

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<v Speaker 1>across because I feel like out of everything we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about in the past couple of days, past few days

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<v Speaker 1>talking about this, I think that this is the most,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say important part of evidence, but

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<v Speaker 1>the one that might lead to something, right? Out of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we have seen anyway. Now, obviously, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the police have and I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the FBI has. But the things that we've heard about,

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<v Speaker 1>I would think that a phone conversation or phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>made repeatedly to the same number over and over again

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<v Speaker 1>from two of the girls who were just murdered would

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<v Speaker 1>be something that would be very important or at the

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<v Speaker 1>very least pretty crucial. So we'll see what happens with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And hopefully it does lead to the person who did

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<v Speaker 1>this or the persons because it's time for them to

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<v Speaker 1>get arrested and it's time for them to face justice.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one.

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<v Speaker 1>If you'd like to contact me, you can do that

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<v Speaker 1>at BobbyCapucci at ProtonMail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at ProtonMail.com. You can

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<v Speaker 1>link that I discussed can be found in the description box.
