Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my
Speaker 1: That's Gavin Rossdale machine Head Blush better than the rest
Speaker 1: three two red mushine I've seen. I've gone in to
Speaker 1: see him multiple times, Gavin Rossdale. So you can tell
Speaker 1: I'm a millennial, right. My first concert I ever went
Speaker 1: to in my life, I was sixteen years old. Sixteen, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was sixteen. And by the way, this is Lydia
Speaker 1: Saran I filling in for Jesse Kelly again. You can
Speaker 1: follow me on social media at Lydia News l I
Speaker 1: d I A n e WS, and you can watch
Speaker 1: me on Newsmax.
Speaker 2: I was a.
Speaker 1: Reporter at Fox five for several years. Then I was
Speaker 1: at WABC Radio in New York City, and now I'm
Speaker 1: me at Newsmax Saturday's at five o'clock five pm Eastern
Speaker 1: and then Sundays at noon Eastern. I'm filling in for
Speaker 1: Carl Higbee this Friday at six pm Eastern, and so
Speaker 1: you'll I fill in on Primetime usually during the week.
Speaker 1: So when I was sixteen years old, I stole my
Speaker 1: parents minivan, I got my license, I got my permit,
Speaker 1: and I had never do you ever see that movie Clueless?
Speaker 1: Where the girls are on the highway and they started
Speaker 1: screaming like that was me. And so I went to
Speaker 1: high school in the Bronx Cardinals Spelmane and so I
Speaker 1: had never and I lived in Yonkers at the time,
Speaker 1: so it was like a ten minute drive and I
Speaker 1: never drove on the highway before. So I stole my
Speaker 1: parents minivan and we loaded up all the I've loaded
Speaker 1: up all my friends, these girls because I was obsessed
Speaker 1: with Bush and they were playing at Jones Beach and
Speaker 1: I had to drive on the l IE the Long
Speaker 1: Island Expressway. I mean, I remember, I'd never even been
Speaker 1: to Long Island before. The only beach I would go
Speaker 1: to when I was sixteen, you know, the living in
Speaker 1: the Bronx and Yonkers was Orchard Beach, which is was
Speaker 1: a nasty beach. They actually kind of cleaned it up.
Speaker 1: So I had never been to Jones Beach. I had
Speaker 1: never and here I was like driving with like a
Speaker 1: van full of girls on our way and the concert
Speaker 1: was epic.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: The lead the lead act was the Google was Google Dolls, right,
Speaker 1: Google Dolls then No Doubt and Bush. And this was
Speaker 1: late nineties. This was the height of Gavin Rossdale the
Speaker 1: epitome of hotness. And he's like sixty years old now
Speaker 1: and I still go and see him. My husband is aware.
Speaker 1: He's come with me, and I swear Gavin Rossdale every
Speaker 1: time I'm in the pit too. I'm one of those freaks.
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people that just I have to
Speaker 1: be like by the stage, I get all into it.
Speaker 1: I get into the zone. I know all the songs
Speaker 1: and we always make eye contact. Gavin Rossdale and not
Speaker 1: in my mind, I have this like I think he
Speaker 1: knows who I am and I met him just like
Speaker 1: at the concert, like you know, I've touched him and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You know, don't don't get H'm not
Speaker 1: that kind of way I touched him. But anyway, I
Speaker 1: like alternative music like Pearl Jam and that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: and you know that's my jam. That's my jam. So
Speaker 1: you normally that's like a not a normal thing for
Speaker 1: a girl from the Bronx to love alternative music and
Speaker 1: hard music. But that's what I like. Guns n' Roses,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff from back then. And I
Speaker 1: feel like nowadays there isn't that kind of good music,
Speaker 1: like the bands like can You. I don't know can
Speaker 1: you guys think, I say, I don't have a call
Speaker 1: screener because we're fair bones, because it's the holidays, and
Speaker 1: that I would because I would love to hear from everybody.
Speaker 1: You could tell me on social media at Lydia News
Speaker 1: L I D I A N e WS. There there
Speaker 1: are no good new bands anymore, back in the day,
Speaker 1: the Nirvana's and stuff like that. There where are those
Speaker 1: rock bands? What has happened green Day? And people say
Speaker 1: to me, they're like, well, green Day has left this
Speaker 1: or this Pearl Jo. I don't care. I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't care what your politics are. I really don't
Speaker 1: be as long as you still play that really good,
Speaker 1: amazing music. I know, I know that guy what's his name,
Speaker 1: Billy or something like that for green Day talk smack
Speaker 1: about Trump. I don't care. I still love the music.
Speaker 1: I still listen to the Spotify Imagine Dragons. I kind
Speaker 1: of like them. So anyway, that's that's my story. So
Speaker 1: now you kind of understand where how I am. So
Speaker 1: I grew up in a very strict household. My parents first,
Speaker 1: or you know, I didn't even speak English growing up.
Speaker 1: My sister got married very early. She was told to
Speaker 1: and so here they have this daughter who wants to
Speaker 1: be a news reporter, and you know, I stole their
Speaker 1: van to go see a concert. So I was like
Speaker 1: this rebel, Like that was rebel. That was being a rebel.
Speaker 1: You know, I never did drugs in my entire life.
Speaker 1: I've never even smoked marijuana or any of that. I
Speaker 1: wasn't like into boys until like after college. I was
Speaker 1: a late bloomer. I was like a tomboy. I played
Speaker 1: sports and stuff like that, but I was I didn't
Speaker 1: want to. I wore the baggy jeans. I was like
Speaker 1: the gowing I like to dress like Gwen Stefani type
Speaker 1: of situation. So well, the reason, that's that's what brings
Speaker 1: me all to this. So Gwen Stefani is the lead
Speaker 1: singer of No Doubt. She was married to Gavin Rossdale
Speaker 1: and they met on this tour and so Gwen and
Speaker 1: they ended up getting divorced because Gavin cheated on her
Speaker 1: with the nanny, because guys are lazy, and the nanny
Speaker 1: is you know, she happened to just be there, like
Speaker 1: Arnold Schwarzenegger with the housekeeper, because she was there. You know,
Speaker 1: you guys are lazy. Sorry, no offense So Gwen Sefani
Speaker 1: got a lot of hate recently because she was promoting
Speaker 1: that Hallow app, which is a Christian app, right, and
Speaker 1: it's about prayer. I actually have the app. And all
Speaker 1: she did was say, you know, during this holiday season,
Speaker 1: we should pray more. And so there was all these
Speaker 1: articles written about her, slamming her, saying how dare she
Speaker 1: promote a pro anti abortion app? And anti that's what
Speaker 1: they called it. If you have the app, nowhere does
Speaker 1: it talk about abortion. It has masses, it has if
Speaker 1: you want to pray the Rosary, it has Bible stories.
Speaker 1: It does never talks about abortion. And so again this
Speaker 1: is how the left manipulates. You look at the Huffington Post,
Speaker 1: you look at all these articles, and that's what it said.
Speaker 1: Gwen Stefani. You know her famous song is don't speak.
Speaker 1: She needs to stop speaking as she promotes anti abortion app.
Speaker 1: It's because she's a Catholic. And this is what happens
Speaker 1: with people. We're attacked for our religion. We're attacked if
Speaker 1: you say you know, people are offended. Apparently if you
Speaker 1: say Merry Christmas. And this comedian he became he kind
Speaker 1: of went viral. I I'll play it for you tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm filling in for Jesse tomorrow too. And he said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not going to say Merry Christmas anymore.
Speaker 1: I'm going to say to everybody, may we all celebrate
Speaker 1: the birth of the One True Savior, the Son of God,
Speaker 1: who is Jesus Christ. And maybe that's what we need
Speaker 1: to start saying instead of just saying Mary Christmas. Maybe
Speaker 1: we all celebrate the birthday of the One True Lord,
Speaker 1: our Savior, Jesus Christ, and then maybe people won't get
Speaker 1: so offensive. Maybe that's what we need to do from
Speaker 1: now on. But I wanted you to listen to jd Vance.
Speaker 1: He said that we are essentially a Christian nation and
Speaker 1: that's what this country is about. Whether people like it
Speaker 1: or not, this is a Christian nation and one nation
Speaker 1: under God, I believe. So take a listen clip number three.
Speaker 3: The only thing that is truly served as an anchor
Speaker 3: of the United States of America is that we have been,
Speaker 3: and by the grace of God, we always will be,
Speaker 3: a Christian nation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why was that offensive? And you have President Trump
Speaker 1: saying Merry Christmas. They put a Nativity scene, that's what
Speaker 1: that's what this holiday is about. I saw Dana Carvey,
Speaker 1: you know, the guy from SNL. He even pointed it out.
Speaker 1: He was on I believe with David Spade. They won't
Speaker 1: call it a Christmas tree. They call it a holiday
Speaker 1: tree christ Christmas. Even my child, she goes to a
Speaker 1: public school. They said, oh, enjoy the holiday, and it
Speaker 1: says that on the calendar holiday. They won't allow you
Speaker 1: can't say it's Christmas. I mean, this is you know,
Speaker 1: we got to push back. We got to push back,
Speaker 1: and you know, but and at what point, you know,
Speaker 1: I saw I say Merry Christmas if I know the
Speaker 1: person is Jewish. Yeah, I still say Merry Christmas because
Speaker 1: it's my holiday. I mean, is Honkakah still going on?
Speaker 1: I mean I could say happy Hankah. I don't have
Speaker 1: a problem. It just ended. Hanakah just ended. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I just say Merry Christmas because it is. It's Christmas.
Speaker 1: And I'll say I won't say like something else, it's
Speaker 1: Happy New Year. It's Merry Christmas. It's my holiday. And
Speaker 1: if it's their holiday, I'll say it's their holiday like
Speaker 1: Muslims got to bite them whatever, so wha whatever. So
Speaker 1: it's my holiday, it's our holiday. Merry Christmas, the One
Speaker 1: True Savior, our Lord Jesus Christ celebrating his birth. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's what we'll say. So when we come back, we'll
Speaker 1: continue to talk about our faith, what's going on in
Speaker 1: the world, and why we need to stand up for ourselves.
Speaker 1: We're also going to talk about Nancy Pelosi, which she
Speaker 1: thinks should happen with Joe Biden and how amazing he is.
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere. You are listening to the Jesse Kelly Show.
Speaker 1: I'm Lydia Sarrane and we'll be right back.
Speaker 4: Oh, Voice of New York seventon w R.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. That is my girl,
Speaker 1: Gwen Stefani. She's, you know, under attack for being a Christian,
Speaker 1: for talking about her faith. Yeah, it's just it's so ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I just saw this. I saw this article that I'm
Speaker 1: sure you guys haven't heard about it either. Because that's
Speaker 1: what I like to do. I want people when they
Speaker 1: watch my shows they listen to me that they say,
Speaker 1: you know what that Lydia had said, Because I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of the true stories that Matt people
Speaker 1: aren't getting out there. And I saw this story Christian
Speaker 1: NFL players call for action against religious persecution in Nigeria.
Speaker 1: The lives at Stake cannot wait more than sixty current
Speaker 1: and former NFL players are banding together and urging action
Speaker 1: from the US against the ongoing religious persecution in Nigeria.
Speaker 1: The presidents, they sent the players sent the President a
Speaker 1: letter to high ranking government officials, including of course the President,
Speaker 1: as well as House Speaker Mike Johnson. The letter rights,
Speaker 1: Religious and ethnic persecution in Nigeria has reached a level
Speaker 1: that demands immediate, concrete action from the United States. And
Speaker 1: it's you know, among the sixty current and former NFL players,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just it's it's unbelievable. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of them. There's a lot of them from Houston, the
Speaker 1: New York Giants, Saw Rock Party, San Francisco, forty nine Ers, CJ. CJ. Stroud, Houston, Texans,
Speaker 1: Trayvon Henderson, New and when Patriots, you name it. The
Speaker 1: letter rights. As men who have been entrusted with a
Speaker 1: public platform through the National Football League, we feel a
Speaker 1: moral responsibility to speak for those whose cries have gone
Speaker 1: on answered for far too long. So nobody talks about it,
Speaker 1: about what's going on in Nigeria. That the kids are
Speaker 1: being you know, Boko Haram, that is an Islamic terror group.
Speaker 1: They'll just say, oh, it's warlords, they're fighting, they're infighting.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to say, what's really happening. And what's really
Speaker 1: happening is you've got Islamic radicals that are chopping people's
Speaker 1: heads off and they're kidnapping children, school children, killing priests
Speaker 1: and nuns, you name it. Nobody wants to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Why is that? Why is it? Is it because they're black?
Speaker 1: Maybe they don't care. You see, Democrats only care about
Speaker 1: black people if they can manipulate them to vote for them.
Speaker 1: That's all they care to because at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, if you think about it, at welfare, all
Speaker 1: of the institutionalized racism, that's why they they want. They
Speaker 1: want black people to be under their thumb. They don't
Speaker 1: want to lift up. The Democrat Party doesn't want to
Speaker 1: lift up black people. If they did, they wouldn't want
Speaker 1: this revolving door of justice when it comes to crime,
Speaker 1: because although we're seeing I just talked about it before,
Speaker 1: a lot of white women, women in general, are being
Speaker 1: are victimized by these career criminals. The majority of crime
Speaker 1: victims are people of color, because the majority of people
Speaker 1: committing the crime are people of color, and they do
Speaker 1: it to their own people. That's what they do, because
Speaker 1: it's happening. Usually it's with gangs, and we're seeing in
Speaker 1: Chicago the number one killer of young black men is
Speaker 1: other young black men. I mean, that's a fact, but
Speaker 1: they don't talk about that. So think about it. If
Speaker 1: Democrats really cared about young black men, why wouldn't they
Speaker 1: put the bad ones away that are killing the other ones?
Speaker 1: Why why aren't they doing that? I don't know. And
Speaker 1: then so they don't care. They don't care. If they
Speaker 1: cared about black people, Nigerians they're black. Why don't they care?
Speaker 1: Because it doesn't fit the narrative they care if they're
Speaker 1: maybe you know what, maybe they would care about the
Speaker 1: Nigerians if they wanted to be trans right, if it
Speaker 1: fits their agenda, maybe then they'll care. Sunny Houstin, she's
Speaker 1: another black woman married to a cuck white guy. See
Speaker 1: you see the trends here, right, you see the trends
Speaker 1: of these women of color. They say, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: this and that, and then their partner is a white dude, right,
Speaker 1: I think he's white if he's not regardless, he's a loser.
Speaker 1: Cliff number thirteen. Here's what she said.
Speaker 5: This is a country based on racism and slavery and
Speaker 5: founding it founded in it. There is systemic racism and misogyny.
Speaker 5: So you have a president who traffics and misogyny, who
Speaker 5: traffics in xphobia, who tracticks in sexism, and one and
Speaker 5: any one and one.
Speaker 1: Against a black woman.
Speaker 5: So don't tell me that that's kind on the water guy,
Speaker 5: black woman, don't tell.
Speaker 1: Me this country is there.
Speaker 5: This country has only had one black male president.
Speaker 1: There's a will see another. Oh my god. By the way,
Speaker 1: Sunny Houston is married to a guy that's half half white.
Speaker 1: So I was close. But he still looks like a loser.
Speaker 1: This is you know, she's taller than him. He looks
Speaker 1: like a tiny little little man, little little man. But yeah,
Speaker 1: look at that. It's always oh, misogyny, it's always this.
Speaker 1: It's like, come on, give me a break. It's it's you,
Speaker 1: just you. They they, they, they really think black people
Speaker 1: are stupid. It's really disgusting. And the whole dee, I
Speaker 1: think I think it hurts black people more more than anybody.
Speaker 1: And and Latino people. It hurts them more than anybody
Speaker 1: because you know, if you step onto a plane and
Speaker 1: your pilot's black, you can't help but think, oh my god,
Speaker 1: did this person get the job because they're black? Because
Speaker 1: they had a quota to fill. See, people don't talk
Speaker 1: about That's why we have a shortage of air traffic
Speaker 1: controllers and pilots, because they have quotas to fill. So
Speaker 1: you have to be They have to make it diverse.
Speaker 1: That's why President Trump, it's like, why do we even
Speaker 1: have what color you are on your forms or for school.
Speaker 1: I remember one of my cousins. He was like number
Speaker 1: one ranked in his class, and his dream was to
Speaker 1: go to Harvard, and he didn't get in even though
Speaker 1: he was like number one ranked and did all these
Speaker 1: extracurricular activities, this and that, because he's white. Because he's white,
Speaker 1: even though his parents, like mine, fled a communist nation
Speaker 1: and he didn't even speak English growing up and all
Speaker 1: these and that. But meanwhile, he told me this kid
Speaker 1: that was black that was ranked like forty got in,
Speaker 1: and meanwhile that kid was American for generations. So think
Speaker 1: about it. If we want to help people get a
Speaker 1: leg up, why wouldn't you help, say the kid who
Speaker 1: is in m'or grin who face all these adversities. Why
Speaker 1: just because you're black you face adversity. That's BS, that's BS.
Speaker 1: You have a lot of you have a lot of
Speaker 1: black people. You have black people here that they've been
Speaker 1: It's it's not my fault that you've been here. Your
Speaker 1: family's been here for generations. It's just unbelievable that this
Speaker 1: this mentality, this victim mentality, it continues. And I know
Speaker 1: here in New York City a lot of them have
Speaker 1: the public housing. A lot of black people, you see it,
Speaker 1: they live in the public housing. And and it's it's
Speaker 1: almost like success is de incentivized. So a lot of
Speaker 1: them they they purposely don't get another job or don't
Speaker 1: want to get a higher paying job because then they're
Speaker 1: going to lose the free housing. So what they do
Speaker 1: is they'll get a side cash job. And what could
Speaker 1: be a side cash job, it's usually something you know,
Speaker 1: dabbling into illegal activities. So that is another thing. So
Speaker 1: if we wanted to help, say you know, lower income
Speaker 1: communities or people of color, why don't we say to them, hey,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll we'll pay for the schooling for this for that. Instead,
Speaker 1: it's like the poorer you are, the worse you are
Speaker 1: at life, the bigger the loser you are, the more
Speaker 1: the government wants to give you. We should be doing
Speaker 1: the opposite. We should be incentivizing people that are successful
Speaker 1: and not doing the opposite. But that's what we're doing
Speaker 1: this country. When we come back, we're gonna talk to
Speaker 1: Father Pavone. We're gonna talk about Christianity. We're gonna talk
Speaker 1: about our faith. We're gonna talk about Christmas and more.
Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show. I am Lydia Show.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Jesse Kelly Show. I am Lydia
Speaker 1: Sarni filling in for Jesse Kelly. You can follow me
Speaker 1: on social media at Lydia News l I d ian WS.
Speaker 1: I'm watching We got Fox News on here, Brian Kilmead,
Speaker 1: who is a really great guy. He's talking about the
Speaker 1: sixty Minutes Report with Sharon el Fonsi. I talked about
Speaker 1: it earlier in today's show. So Sharon A. Fonsi is
Speaker 1: really is a wonderful woman. At least when I was
Speaker 1: in my early twenties and she brought me out on
Speaker 1: my first they call them stand ups. Very nice person,
Speaker 1: but she's upset because Barry Weiss. She is moderate, she
Speaker 1: leans to the right. She shelved the CBS piece because
Speaker 1: she felt like it wasn't balanced, and now people are
Speaker 1: threatening to quit. I worked at CBS for five years.
Speaker 1: I was my first TV like well, I was at
Speaker 1: The View too, believe that I was an intern at
Speaker 1: The View, and then I worked at CBS. I was
Speaker 1: a production assistant for the early show, and then I
Speaker 1: worked for Dan Rather for several years. I got to
Speaker 1: know him well, and he's a hardcore lefty and when
Speaker 1: I was there, you know, as a young person, I
Speaker 1: was in the middle. And I'll admit it. And I
Speaker 1: got hit for this because I said this on TV.
Speaker 1: I have voted for Barack Obama. I did. I know
Speaker 1: now people are parently turning it off, but no, I
Speaker 1: was a kid. I was young, and I was like
Speaker 1: hope and change for the future. And then I didn't
Speaker 1: vote for him. The second time I did not, and
Speaker 1: I've been on the right path ever since. But you know,
Speaker 1: you are naive as a young person, you are naive,
Speaker 1: you are impressionable. You don't understand, and so that's why
Speaker 1: when I hear. We didn't have this when I was
Speaker 1: growing up. I'm sure you guys didn't either, about this
Speaker 1: whole trans craziness. So you can't get a tattoo, you
Speaker 1: can't buy beer, you can't buy wine, you can't get
Speaker 1: you know, all these crazy things you can And yet
Speaker 1: if you want hormones, if you want surgery, we know
Speaker 1: of twelve year olds that are getting missectomies. And this
Speaker 1: is what's happening. And now you have RFK Junior who
Speaker 1: wants who has made it now illegal to chop off
Speaker 1: a child's body parts and he's getting hit for it.
Speaker 1: Clip number five.
Speaker 6: The Trump administration will not stand by will ideology, misinformation,
Speaker 6: and propaganda push vulnerable young people into decisions they cannot
Speaker 6: fully understand and that they can never reverse. On my watch,
Speaker 6: AHHS will stand for radical transparency and informed consent. We
Speaker 6: follow the evidence, We employed gold standard science. We honor
Speaker 6: the moral obligation to do no harm. There is divine
Speaker 6: worth in every person. It shines most brightly in our children.
Speaker 6: That worth commands us to protect them. And as long
Speaker 6: as I serve as HHS Secretary, this agency will do so.
Speaker 6: President Trump is made Child protection ain't national priority Make
Speaker 6: our Children Healthy Against strategy demonstrates that commitment sex rejecting
Speaker 6: procedures rob children of their futures. So today we are
Speaker 6: taking six the sides of actions guided by gold standard
Speaker 6: science and the week one executive order from President Trump
Speaker 6: to protect children from chemical and surgical mutilation. This morning
Speaker 6: I signed a declaration sex rejecting procedures are neither safe
Speaker 6: nor effective treatment for children with genderness.
Speaker 1: For you have it there, you have it now. And
Speaker 1: he's getting hate from the left for speaking the truth.
Speaker 1: It's gender dysphoria. These people are confused, they need help
Speaker 1: these young children, and the parents are upset, so they
Speaker 1: bring the child to a psychiatrist who tells them, well,
Speaker 1: would you rather have alive son or a you know,
Speaker 1: or a dead daughter?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: This is what they do. They scare the parents. So
Speaker 1: on with me right now is Father Pavone, Father Frank Pavone.
Speaker 1: He is a he was ordained in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 1: He's a director for Priests for Life, a national co
Speaker 1: chair pro Life Voices for Trump. Father Profone, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: Hey, Lydia, It's always great to be on with you.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me So, Father Provone, you got
Speaker 1: kicked out of the priesthood, you know, not for anything bad,
Speaker 1: but for speaking the truth. You got hate for speaking
Speaker 1: the truth because of a radical church leaders. Tell us
Speaker 1: about it. You advocate for the unborn, You advocate for children,
Speaker 1: because that's who is the unborn, and you got hate
Speaker 1: for it. You risked it all for it. And this
Speaker 1: is what we keep seeing, people that are being persecuted
Speaker 1: for speaking the truth. So tell us what happened.
Speaker 2: Well, yes, I back in the well. I've been involved
Speaker 2: in the Prolge Moved since nineteen seventy six. I was
Speaker 2: a teenager when I got involved in the movement. Then
Speaker 2: I also felt the call to the priesthood. And as
Speaker 2: a priest, you know, I was speaking out against abortion
Speaker 2: very very strongly, and the a few years into my priesthood,
Speaker 2: I said, I want to devote myself to this full
Speaker 2: time and the church at that time I was under
Speaker 2: Cardinal John O'Connor in New York. They said, yes, they
Speaker 2: gave me permission to lead this ministry priest for Life.
Speaker 2: And you know, for the next three decades I did
Speaker 2: this a full time and until I got to the
Speaker 2: point where you know, the ministry was becoming very, very large,
Speaker 2: very effective, and that threatned some of the left leaning
Speaker 2: members of the hierarchy, who, as my canonical advisor told me,
Speaker 2: what they cannot control, they kill. So they tried to
Speaker 2: limit our ministry. They it didn't succeed because people support
Speaker 2: our work all around the country. And so when they
Speaker 2: didn't succeed in destroying the ministry, they took away my priesthood.
Speaker 2: I still lead the ministry. It's still growing because Lydia
Speaker 2: like you like you're saying the war it is actually
Speaker 2: a war against children which is going on. That's not
Speaker 2: just you know, my opinion, your opinion. You know, Saint
Speaker 2: John Paul the second wrote about this back when when when,
Speaker 2: when he was pope, but he died in twenty five
Speaker 2: and and he said, yes, there's a deliberate war going
Speaker 2: on of the strong against the weak. And whether these
Speaker 2: children are in the womb or or or whether they
Speaker 2: are in our schools, there's a terrible war. It's the
Speaker 2: same that it's the war against marriage. It's a war
Speaker 2: against the family. It's a war against the innocence of
Speaker 2: young life. And when we speak up about that, that's
Speaker 2: those same warriors in the radical left culture of death
Speaker 2: are going to treat us, the advocates for these children,
Speaker 2: in the same way that they treat the children themselves.
Speaker 2: They will try to obliterate us in one way or another.
Speaker 1: Again, we're speaking with father Frank Pavone and mother Teresa
Speaker 1: again she is our Albanian hero. She talked about abortion.
Speaker 1: She said, I quote, I feel the greatest destroyer of
Speaker 1: peace today is abortion, because it is a war against
Speaker 1: the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murdered
Speaker 1: by the mother herself. And if we can accept that
Speaker 1: a mother can kill even her own child, how can
Speaker 1: we tell other people not to kill one another? How
Speaker 1: do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion?
Speaker 1: As always, we must persuade her with love, and we
Speaker 1: must remind ourselves that love me means to be willing
Speaker 1: to give until it hurts. And yet, and we know
Speaker 1: the number one killer of young of black babies is abortion.
Speaker 1: And again you have the Democrat party that advocates for
Speaker 1: the killing of children. I mean you, what do you think,
Speaker 1: Father Pavone is Can you be a Christian and be
Speaker 1: a Democrat?
Speaker 2: Not anymore? Certainly there was a time when you could.
Speaker 2: And the reason that we say this is is not
Speaker 2: to judge any particular person. I know that obviously. I
Speaker 2: mean in my own life and the lives of you know,
Speaker 2: so many of our listeners. You know, we know people
Speaker 2: who identify as Democrats who we say, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: these are very good people, They're very Christian people. When
Speaker 2: we say this, we're not judging any particular individual. What
Speaker 2: we're saying is that being a Christian means that you
Speaker 2: embrace certain teachings. One of them we're talking about now,
Speaker 2: the sanctity of life, and there are many other teachings,
Speaker 2: the meaning of marriage, the meaning of family, and and
Speaker 2: and many other moral stances as well. Christianity has a content.
Speaker 2: It's not just oh, I pray to God. I believe
Speaker 2: in Jesus. Jesus taught certain specific things. He established a
Speaker 2: church which teaches very specific things. So it's not you know,
Speaker 2: I let me just put the label on myself and
Speaker 2: I'll invent whatever I want to believe. It has a content.
Speaker 2: Then you look at the Democrat party, it has a
Speaker 2: content too. There are certain dogmas, there are certain positions
Speaker 2: in the platform and in the in the what has
Speaker 2: become the you might say the ideological uh, practice and
Speaker 2: commitment of the Democrat Party, and one of those things
Speaker 2: is to unlimited abortion. I mean, find me a Democrat
Speaker 2: that says there should be certain limits on even late
Speaker 2: term abortion, and uh, you know, I'll give you a
Speaker 2: prize because they're awful hard to find. Uh. We're talking about,
Speaker 2: you know, the people you know, in in positions, in
Speaker 2: public positions. So this is why what you just said
Speaker 2: is is true. You cannot be not in our day
Speaker 2: and age.
Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, Father Pavone. We're going to continue this conversation.
Speaker 1: If you guys remember former Speaker Nancy Pelosi. She was
Speaker 1: denied communion the Eucharists, which we Catholics believe is the
Speaker 1: body of Christ. This was by a San Francisco Archbishop,
Speaker 1: Salvatore Cordolioni. He publicly stated in May twenty twenty two
Speaker 1: that she was barred from receiving Holy Communion because of
Speaker 1: her persistent support of killing the unborn unfettered. She wanted
Speaker 1: you to be able. She still believes it. So this
Speaker 1: woman's going to burn in hell. We're going to talk
Speaker 1: a little bit more about her, because you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not here to judge, I know, Father you don't
Speaker 1: judge people. I judge her. I think she's a horrible
Speaker 1: discussing human being. When we return, stay there, father, don't
Speaker 1: go anywhere. We're going to continue talking about this and
Speaker 1: why Christian persecution continues to be ignored, but not by
Speaker 1: President Trump. He is he is looking into it. Were
Speaker 1: going to get to the bottom of it. Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1: I'm Lydia Soaran I in for Jesse Kelly and we're
Speaker 1: going to be right back. Welcome back to the Jesse
Speaker 1: Kelly Show. I am Lydia Soarran I at Lydia News
Speaker 1: l I d I A n e WS. It's been
Speaker 1: so amazing to be on with you guys this evening.
Speaker 1: I'll be back tomorrow to fill in for Jesse again.
Speaker 1: We were talking before about Nancy Pelosi and what a
Speaker 1: disgrace she is and she claims to be a Catholics
Speaker 1: like Joe Biden. Here's I want you to clip nine.
Speaker 1: Here's what she said about Joe Biden. She was talking
Speaker 1: to sixty minutes. Correspondal, listen to this.
Speaker 7: Such a consequential president of the United States, a mount
Speaker 7: Rushmore kind of president of the United States. I want
Speaker 7: to know what comes next that he belongs up there
Speaker 7: on Mount Rushmore, Lincoln and Joe Biden, But you got
Speaker 7: Teddy Roosevelt up there, and he's wonderful. I don't say
Speaker 7: take him down, but you can add Biden.
Speaker 1: She's so crazy, she's father provone. Why is it that
Speaker 1: the church is so for not I don't even want
Speaker 1: to say it's forgiving, so permissible when it comes to
Speaker 1: people that openly contradict fundamentally what the Church stands for
Speaker 1: and what Jesus Christ himself would be vehemently against. So
Speaker 1: why allow people like Joe Biden and Nancy Pelosi and
Speaker 1: these and Kathy Hokel who claims to be Catholics, Why
Speaker 1: allow them to get to allow them to receive the
Speaker 1: Body of Christ? What kind of message does that send?
Speaker 2: Well, Lydia, it's bad leadership. And you know that's actually
Speaker 2: how our ministry arose. Some years ago, I got into
Speaker 2: a big public spat with Nancy Pelosi because in a
Speaker 2: press conference where she was asked about legislation limiting late
Speaker 2: term abortion and whether she'd be in favor of that,
Speaker 2: she starts off by saying, oh, well, you know, I'm
Speaker 2: a sincere practicing Catholic. You know. And then when people
Speaker 2: started pointing out, myself included that, wait a minute, your
Speaker 2: position contradicts the very Catholic faith you playing to embrace.
Speaker 2: You know what her response was, Oh, well, you know
Speaker 2: this is a private matter, you know, between me and God,
Speaker 2: and you know my bishop and my priest. I said,
Speaker 2: wait one minute. You are the one who said you're
Speaker 2: a faithful, practicing Catholic. At that moment, you made your
Speaker 2: faith a public matter, and and you said that in
Speaker 2: reference to a piece of legislation. You could have just
Speaker 2: addressed the legislation. You could have just addressed the fact
Speaker 2: that your party and your policies allow killing a healthy
Speaker 2: baby carried by a healthy mother in the seventh, eighth,
Speaker 2: and ninth months of pregnancy. But no, you didn't want
Speaker 2: to address the merits of the issue. You wanted to
Speaker 2: try to hide behind your oh faithful, sincere practicing Catholic.
Speaker 2: You didn't have to bring up your faith at all.
Speaker 2: I say the same thing about Joe Biden. You know,
Speaker 2: Oh I carried a rosary and oh I received why
Speaker 2: you know, why do we care about that? You re
Speaker 2: elected you to be a president, not a pastor. Tell
Speaker 2: us about the policy and try to justify. So the
Speaker 2: bottom line is Lydia. You know why these people feel
Speaker 2: so confident in invoking their Catholicism and taking positions completely
Speaker 2: contrary to Catholicism because they have got priests that they
Speaker 2: go to who are misleading them. They're not coming to
Speaker 2: this on their own. They're not theologians. They're relying on
Speaker 2: priests who are telling them, oh, you know, don't worry,
Speaker 2: there's justification for taking these positions. That's why I lead
Speaker 2: a ministry called Priests for a Life, because which time
Speaker 2: there's need for reform in the church. Just like we've
Speaker 2: got weak and cowardly politicians that will talk and talk
Speaker 2: and talk and you don't know what in the world
Speaker 2: they just said. So we have the same problem in
Speaker 2: the pulpit where you've got this d zacuous, cowardly beating
Speaker 2: around the bush. They're they're talking, and they're not changing anyone,
Speaker 2: they're not challenging anyone. It's all this feel good garbage. No,
Speaker 2: we need renewal within the clergy. Just we need the
Speaker 2: spirit that President Trump has brought into the political world
Speaker 2: and the fight fight fight, and the clear talking and
Speaker 2: and the and the and the kind of talking that
Speaker 2: resonates with the hearts and passions of the American people
Speaker 2: sitting in their living rooms. This is what we need
Speaker 2: coming from the pulpit, and that's what our ministry tries
Speaker 2: to do, and it includes challenging exactly the problem you
Speaker 2: are just bringing out in the in the in the
Speaker 2: likes of Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden and unfortunately a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of others at various levels of government.
Speaker 1: Father Frank Pavone, I always love having you on and
Speaker 1: where again can people find you and reach you and
Speaker 1: talk to you because you are just I love the
Speaker 1: way you are just such a defender, of course of
Speaker 1: the unborn, but also of the truth.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you. I'm at fr Frank Pavone on all
Speaker 2: the social media platforms Fr Frank Pavone and our main
Speaker 2: website is pro lifecentral dot org. Pro lifecentral dot org.
Speaker 1: Father Pavone, thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Lydia, God bless God.
Speaker 1: Bless everyone out there listening to this. You know there
Speaker 1: is even these nativity displays. I saw it in I
Speaker 1: think it's Meetam, Massachusetts, where they said, oh Mary they
Speaker 1: had they don't have Mary and Jesus there. We all
Speaker 1: know that baby Jesus isn't there until Christmas Day, but
Speaker 1: they don't even have Marry and Jesus. And they said, oh,
Speaker 1: it's because of ice. And the archdiocese told them to
Speaker 1: put them, to put them back, and they were the
Speaker 1: priest is refusing, you know, they stop comparing what's going
Speaker 1: on with Mary and Jesus and Joseph, because they were
Speaker 1: not illegal aliens. They were going to Egypt, they left Bethlehem,
Speaker 1: they were going to answer for a census. So stop
Speaker 1: with the lies, stop with the bs. Stands up for
Speaker 1: the truth. And I actually go to a different church
Speaker 1: now because my priest was spewing these stupid nonsensical lies
Speaker 1: about migrants and this and that. You know, it's at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, you just got to call
Speaker 1: it like it is and and speak the truth. Because
Speaker 1: what did you just say, I'm the Way, the truth
Speaker 1: and the light right. He didn't say, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to tell you the truth if it hurts your feelings.
Speaker 1: So it's been an awesome experience being with you guys.
Speaker 1: As always again, I'm Lydia Saran I Lydia News l
Speaker 1: I d I A N E.
Speaker 3: W S.
Speaker 1: God bless you guys, Merry Christmas. I look forward to
Speaker 1: talking to you tomorrow, and have a great and blessed night,
Speaker 1: and trust and remember that God is with you and
Speaker 1: always always,