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<v Speaker 1>KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the

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<v Speaker 1>house Whisper on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Such a

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<v Speaker 1>privilege and a pleasure to spend time with you on

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<v Speaker 1>a Sunday morning talking about that most important of spaces

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<v Speaker 1>in your life, your home, and helping you make your

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<v Speaker 1>ordinary house a more extraordinary home. By the way, if

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<v Speaker 1>your home is in need of some personal house Whisper attention.

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<v Speaker 1>By personal I mean not here on the air, but

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<v Speaker 1>with me and the tea just standing there right next

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<v Speaker 1>to you, staring at the problem, whatever that may be,

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<v Speaker 1>and helping you change the game for your home, you

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<v Speaker 1>can book an in home design consult with us. Just

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<v Speaker 1>go to house Whisperer dot Design, house Whisper dot Design.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, it is the top of the center hour,

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<v Speaker 1>the second hour, which means it is time to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the phones and find out what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>you and your home. Okay, Bruce, I got about half

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<v Speaker 1>of your question. Uh, we were having a little trouble

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<v Speaker 1>with the callboard. Uh, you're thinking about putting in a

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<v Speaker 1>whole house fan or an attic fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Run't buy me one more time, addict fan.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, at Attic Fan but I have about two dozen

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<v Speaker 3>can lights and I'm concerned about sucking cool air out

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<v Speaker 3>of the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, gotcha? Okay, So what kind of insulation is on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor of the attic right now? That's bats of

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<v Speaker 1>insulation and your can lights are sticking through, and are

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<v Speaker 1>the insulate Is the insulation making contact with the can

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<v Speaker 1>lights or are they just pulled back away from it?

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<v Speaker 3>Some yes, some no?

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<v Speaker 2>Give me all right. So it's a you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's a legitimate concern. H It's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not as severe as you might think, because the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of an attic fan is that you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>blowing the hot air out of the attic and we're

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<v Speaker 1>not actually, you know, we don't want to be drawing

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<v Speaker 1>on that internal house air. That's different than a whole

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<v Speaker 1>house fan. But the attic fan is just in and

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<v Speaker 1>of itself. But the thing that you can do, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a relatively simple and inexpensive way to

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<v Speaker 1>deal with this, is you can buy housings these covers, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>these little heatproof insulation contact covers, and they're designed for

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<v Speaker 1>recess can lights who that aren't ICEE rated I see,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning insulation contact rated. Okay, Now it doesn't really matter

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<v Speaker 1>to me whether yours are rated that way or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Your concern is air infiltration through the can into the

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<v Speaker 1>attic and then losing cool or warm air, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as you use your attic fan. So if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to guarantee that that does not happen, you can simply

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<v Speaker 1>for the number of attic based recess can that you've got.

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<v Speaker 1>You you can go online. You can find these on Amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>You can even find them at the big box stores,

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<v Speaker 1>but they in the electrical section. They are these little

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<v Speaker 1>boxes essentially, and they go over the can light and

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<v Speaker 1>they sit on the you the top level of the drywall.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you want to guarantee that you have no

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<v Speaker 1>air infiltration, you can even put a little line of

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<v Speaker 1>silicone around the bottom and quick just stick it down there.

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<v Speaker 1>And now what we've got is we have sealed your

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<v Speaker 1>ic housing, your your recess can housing in a insulation

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<v Speaker 1>contact matter to the top of the drywall, and there

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<v Speaker 1>is no more air infiltration between the two. Now, there

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<v Speaker 1>are different ways of doing it as well. Sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>can actually just calk around the can lights, but a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of can lights, especially the older ones, are quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote leaky as far as air infiltration goes, So better

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<v Speaker 1>to put the box over the top and then you're

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<v Speaker 1>good to go on anything you want to do in

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<v Speaker 1>you're attic.

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<v Speaker 4>Sounds good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll look into it, all right, Bruce, Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>your call, buddy, appreciate that. Sorry that we had issues.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if we can actually start up with Jim. Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>are you there?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'm here. How are you doing? Deed?

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<v Speaker 1>I am good, Sorry, we had some phone issues. Here

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<v Speaker 1>are you and I we're going to get started with

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<v Speaker 1>your question. Then we're going to have to go to break,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's get started with it anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, my question is I do a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>fixing up furniture, building furniture, stuff like that, but my

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<v Speaker 4>style is more mid century modern. But my house was

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<v Speaker 4>built in nineteen eighty nine, so it's got the plant

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<v Speaker 4>ledges all that. How how do I mesh these two together?

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<v Speaker 4>And you know it's an eclectic but how do I

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<v Speaker 4>mesh these two together to make it look cohesive?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Right? Okay? You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>That is such a good question and I have such

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<v Speaker 1>a good answer for you, but we're going to let

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<v Speaker 1>everybody dangle on the end.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that question. Let me pop you on hold.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to go to traffic, and then when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back, we're going to answer Jim's questions about how

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<v Speaker 1>do you mesh two different styles together inside a house,

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<v Speaker 1>especially since he's living in a house that is not

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<v Speaker 1>distinctly his preferred style. Great question, Jim, You hang tight, buddy.

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<v Speaker 5>You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from

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<v Speaker 5>KFI AM six forty.

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<v Speaker 1>We are talking about finding your style today, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking calls right now, which means that the topics may

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<v Speaker 1>be on style or may not be, because you set

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<v Speaker 1>the agenda when it comes to calls. But Jim called

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<v Speaker 1>in and he's trying to figure out how his style

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<v Speaker 1>of preference, which is a little bit more mid century modern,

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly work, and how he's going to mesh that

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<v Speaker 1>with the fact that he lives in a nineteen eighties

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<v Speaker 1>southern California home complete with plant shelves and all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of that bull nosed dry wall and heavy orange peel

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<v Speaker 1>on the walls and all sorts of fun stuff. Am

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<v Speaker 1>I hitting it right there?

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<v Speaker 2>Jim?

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<v Speaker 4>That is absolutely correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, So it's a big question, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are different ways of approaching this answer, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>do it kind of in phases. First of all, First

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<v Speaker 1>of all, we should not over estimate the power of

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<v Speaker 1>a kind of how do I want to put it,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to put it nicely. We should know overestimate

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<v Speaker 1>the power of the effect of attract home interior. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it has its own vibe for sure, but

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<v Speaker 1>usually if we want to, if we want to make

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<v Speaker 1>the least amount of moves, anybody living inside attract home

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<v Speaker 1>like a nineteen eighties tract home with all its little distinctives,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody living inside that home that has a strong sense of.

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<v Speaker 2>Their own style.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to you selecting furniture and rugs and

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<v Speaker 1>artwork and all of that, you will overpower the shell

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<v Speaker 1>that you're living in, and you can transform that and

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<v Speaker 1>get that vibe going without any big changes whatsoever. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>on a general you know, generally speaking, Okay, now, there

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<v Speaker 1>may be some stark reminders of your homes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenies construction pass. But I've seen it again and again

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<v Speaker 1>and again, and we have walked into homes and suggested

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<v Speaker 1>nothing but interior decor changes and sometimes help out with

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of paint. But the fact of the

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<v Speaker 1>matter is that anybody who's got a strong style presence

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<v Speaker 1>in any home will in fact make that evident and

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<v Speaker 1>will not be out done by the house itself, especially

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<v Speaker 1>a tracked house. Okay, if you were trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>this in an eighteen nineties Victorian home, that might be challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>a bigger challenge, right or or craftsman home, it would

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<v Speaker 1>be a bigger challenge. A home that knows who it is,

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<v Speaker 1>has an architectural pedigree. These are homes that have to

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<v Speaker 1>be massaged in a different way if we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>change the style. But the fact of the matter is

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<v Speaker 1>the interior of a nineteen eighties tracked home is not

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<v Speaker 1>competing with you as much as you think if you

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<v Speaker 1>get creative with it. So that's Steed step one, which

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<v Speaker 1>I hope is an encouragement. The second thing, though, would

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<v Speaker 1>be to be making minimalist changes to the house, and

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<v Speaker 1>that would be in terms of not remodeling whole rooms

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that, but maybe losing the heavy orange

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<v Speaker 1>peel texture on the drywall, maybe going for a smooth

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<v Speaker 1>finished drywall. Maybe while we're doing that, pulling off those

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<v Speaker 1>bull nosed corners, those rounded corners and replacing them those

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<v Speaker 1>outside corners with squared off edge metal corners so that

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<v Speaker 1>we get more of that geometric, tight, smooth finish.

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<v Speaker 2>You may or may.

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<v Speaker 1>Not want to fill in the plant shelf. Okay, And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you don't understand what we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the plant shelf, if you've never been in a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighties one, quite often they have vaulted ceilings, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what they're actually for there, the builders

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<v Speaker 1>creative way of running soffets around so that they can

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<v Speaker 1>run air conditioning ducks and all sorts of funky stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And all of a sudden, right up there, just a

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<v Speaker 1>few feet above you, there's a shelf, which most of

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<v Speaker 1>us have called the plant shelf because we're like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody has actually ever called it anything in specific, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think we all kind of shrug our shoulders and

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<v Speaker 1>what are we going to put up there?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess plants. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>They're too high, they're too high up to water to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of, so we don't do anything up there.

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<v Speaker 1>So the point is this, you want to get creative.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a nice it's a nice flat shelf. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a some artwork that could go up above it

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<v Speaker 1>in the space above it. Then that flat shelf makes

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful place to put some directional lighting up against

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<v Speaker 1>the wall, okay, and so we can transport. So you

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<v Speaker 1>see what I'm saying that the presence of a plant

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<v Speaker 1>shelf in an eighties home, it's not that hard to

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<v Speaker 1>redefine it. And the idea that a wall would ascend

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<v Speaker 1>upwards in a mid century modern house and then have

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<v Speaker 1>a niche in it, or take a jaw, get ninety

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<v Speaker 1>degrees back and then continue up. That's not unheard of

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<v Speaker 1>in a mid century modern motif, even if the architecture

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<v Speaker 1>itself was built that way from day one. So the

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<v Speaker 1>fact is, if it doesn't absolutely go against a mid

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<v Speaker 1>century style, then work with it to think, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's a preason. Maybe that shelf becomes the presentation

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<v Speaker 1>of a light bar that shines up against the wall

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<v Speaker 1>and will highlight.

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<v Speaker 2>Some artwork or whatever higher up on the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>And now we don't have to worry about the dust,

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't have to worry about watering plants that

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<v Speaker 1>we can't reach, and it actually becomes a feature that

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<v Speaker 1>lifts your head up in the room. So that would

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<v Speaker 1>be like level one transformation, which is smoothing out the

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<v Speaker 1>dry wall, squaring off the corners, and yeah, that costs

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<v Speaker 1>some money, but it doesn't. It's not a major remodel, right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're just reworking some surfaces in the room and better

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<v Speaker 1>at tuning it to receive your decor and your furniture,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we would kind of proceed on from there. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you wanted to really really just say hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm ready to gut this place and to go full bore,

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<v Speaker 1>then here is the most important thing I can tell you, Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>and the thing that I want to tell everybody who's listening.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have to tear down your Spanish Mediterranean esque

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<v Speaker 1>home in order to have a different interior. We learn

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<v Speaker 1>this lesson from the Europeans. Okay, I have traveled extensively

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<v Speaker 1>all the people in the world who are leading the

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<v Speaker 1>charge of contemporary and modern decor inside a home, smooth, organic,

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<v Speaker 1>clean line surfaces, you know, minimalist detail, all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>are doing this. And I here's my theory. On it,

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<v Speaker 1>the stone and all of these facades everywhere you turn,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all.

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<v Speaker 2>Old world, old world, old world.

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<v Speaker 1>You get you but you're doing this in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>first century, right. You get a little tired of it eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>and on some level you respect it and appreciate it,

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<v Speaker 1>about it because it very likely your European city that

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<v Speaker 1>hundred year old building turns into an ultra modern, contemporary,

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<v Speaker 1>very sleek interior experience. And so that happens so often,

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<v Speaker 1>so often in European homes these days, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's because they already feel rooted in. They want to

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>rooted in the past. Everything out here is new and young,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, we don't feel we kind of feel rootless. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we embrace historical design, whereas the Europeans are like, enough,

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<v Speaker 1>let's move on and so. But the point is this,

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<v Speaker 1>very simply, the point is that there's nothing wrong with

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<v Speaker 1>the exterior of a home telling one story and the

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<v Speaker 1>interior having a completely different vibe, because it is very,

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<v Speaker 1>very simply the fact that you can't see them both

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time. Right Once you're inside the house,

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<v Speaker 1>you're inside that environment, and when you're outside, you're outside.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the idea of historical preservation on the outside

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<v Speaker 1>of a house, just keep it, keep it, roll with it,

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<v Speaker 1>make it work. But feel free once you step in

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<v Speaker 1>the front door to change whatever, however and however much

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<v Speaker 1>you want, if you want to be embraced, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be embraced in a mid century interior that

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<v Speaker 1>just happens to exist in a you know, Spanish med

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<v Speaker 1>esque nineteen eighty shell, you know what, nothing wrong with that, whatsoever?

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<v Speaker 1>What would be weird is to start putting mid century

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<v Speaker 1>features on the outside of the house or trying to

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<v Speaker 1>share the two on the inside. But if you want

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<v Speaker 1>one side and one on the other, no.

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<v Speaker 4>Jim, Well, thank you. That answered a lot of my questions.

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<v Speaker 4>Gave me a lot of stuff think about.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, buddy, good luck with that.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, thank you?

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, see, this is why we take calls, because

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<v Speaker 1>we learned some good stuff along the way. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take more calls.

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<v Speaker 5>Right after you're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on

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<v Speaker 5>demand from KFI Am sixty.

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<v Speaker 1>Dean Sharp, the house whisper, that's me, Thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us on the program today on this beautiful spring morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday, May eighteenth? Is that the date? Is that? Do

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<v Speaker 2>I get that right? Look at me? Look at me?

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<v Speaker 1>I got the date right. I always know what date

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<v Speaker 1>it is, by the way, but I rarely know the date.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a fact of life around here. Tina is

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<v Speaker 1>always reminding me of what date it is. She's like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want to do on the seventeenth? I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Is this a trick question? Is the

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<v Speaker 1>same seventeenth already passed us. I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 1>the number is, and then you show me that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there it is. Okay, all right, we are taking calls.

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<v Speaker 1>We're in the middle hour of our fine program here. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>we are talking today about finding your style and handing

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<v Speaker 1>you as much information as I can, as much help

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<v Speaker 1>as I can for you to start really embracing the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of finding your own style for your home, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's we're all about here. We're all about turning your

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<v Speaker 1>ordinary house into an extraordinary home. And how does that

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<v Speaker 1>happen when it becomes more you. That's how it happened

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<v Speaker 1>along the way. So we're going to return to that discussion,

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<v Speaker 1>or we may have ben have some callers who want

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<v Speaker 1>to continue that discussion. But when it comes to calls,

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<v Speaker 1>you set the agenda and we can talk about anything

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<v Speaker 1>that's on your mind. I want to talk to guy, Hey, Guy,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome home.

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Hello Sarah.

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<v Speaker 2>How can I help you?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah? I am interested in rebuilding a house and Altadena

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<v Speaker 6>that would burnt down in fires. Oh thank you. I

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<v Speaker 6>was wondering if a modular or a stick home. It

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't make a big difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, really good question. A modular or a stick home.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me explain this so that everybody who's listening

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<v Speaker 1>is tracking with the conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>Modular home, by the way, different than a manufactured home.

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<v Speaker 1>These are very confusing terms because they're both manufactured off site.

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<v Speaker 1>But a manufactured home is what we would call a

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<v Speaker 1>mobile home that gets built on a chassis, literally on

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<v Speaker 1>a trailer chassis. Different animal altogether. So just so we

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<v Speaker 1>know that we're going to set that one aside, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not what we're talking about. We're talking about a modular

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<v Speaker 1>home versus a stick framed home. Now a stick framed home,

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<v Speaker 1>and people are like, what is that? That's the home

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<v Speaker 1>you're living in. More than likely a stick frame home

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<v Speaker 1>means that it was built piece by piece, stick by stick, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>stud by stud on site, right there was nothing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we poured a foundation, and then the carpenters showed

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<v Speaker 1>up and they started putting boards together and raising walls

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that kind of That is a stick framed,

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<v Speaker 1>stick built home. The difference between that and a modular

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<v Speaker 1>home is that a modular home built out of the

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<v Speaker 1>same materials, by the way, built in the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>built according to the same codes, built just as well,

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<v Speaker 1>if not arguably at points better, because a modular home

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<v Speaker 1>is a preset design that is constructed in a factory,

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<v Speaker 1>a factory that has fine tuned its waste materials. It's

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<v Speaker 1>material usage, the process by which every wall and every

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<v Speaker 1>roofline is constructed, and then those components, not the whole

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<v Speaker 1>house itself, but the components of the house, wall, panels, roofs, actions,

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<v Speaker 1>all of that are shipped out to the building location

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<v Speaker 1>and then assembled there much quicker. Okay, So now that

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<v Speaker 1>we've laid that foundation between the two, what is the difference. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>as I said, construction wise, they can be exactly the same.

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<v Speaker 1>They're built from the same processes, they are built according

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<v Speaker 1>to the same codes. They're just as strong, just as

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<v Speaker 1>safe when they're both built properly. Okay, it could be

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<v Speaker 1>argued that a modular home has tighter quality control than

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<v Speaker 1>a stick build home. I don't think that's necessarily true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the question of whether whoever's building the stick

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<v Speaker 1>and whether they're doing work with integrity. So in theory

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<v Speaker 1>they should have the same. If one is going to

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<v Speaker 1>So the advantages and disadvantage is what it really comes

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<v Speaker 1>down to, Guy, in your situation of rebuilding after the

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<v Speaker 1>Altadena buyers, it comes down to this. The pros and

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<v Speaker 1>cons are that a modular home is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>faster construction. They just build them faster, They assemble them

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<v Speaker 1>on site faster. There will be cost savings because they

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<v Speaker 1>build this home again and again and again, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>a minimum. So there are cost savings and quite often

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And so those are the pros of a modular home.

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<v Speaker 1>Faster construction, less expensive, okay, stick built home, more flexibility

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<v Speaker 1>in design, and can be customized more as you built.

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<v Speaker 1>So the real issue is this, As you are selecting

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<v Speaker 1>between the two, and you're wise to look at both options,

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<v Speaker 1>the question really comes down if you want to save

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<v Speaker 1>the most money and rebuild as quickly as possible. The

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<v Speaker 1>question simply becomes, is there a modular home design that

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<v Speaker 1>really fits with you well enough? Off the shelf, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's really what it is, it's an off the shelf home.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a design that fits with you well enough?

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<v Speaker 1>That you'd be willing to pull the trigger and say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, that home design right there that works.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's good, that's good for us. We love

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<v Speaker 1>that we And if that's the case, then you're probably

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to build that exact same home in

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<v Speaker 1>both methods, the modular home is going to go faster,

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<v Speaker 6>Less expensive, and the quality is the same.

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<v Speaker 1>And the quality is the same, absolutely the same, because

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<v Speaker 1>those modular home factories, they are subject to the same

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<v Speaker 1>inspection and code requirement in factory as the building inspectors

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<v Speaker 6>The last question on that, does it lower the property value?

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<v Speaker 1>Not at all, not in any way, shape or form,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is not, like I said, not to be

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<v Speaker 1>confused with a manufactured home. Okay, a modular home is

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<v Speaker 1>a home. Once a modular home is built and installed

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<v Speaker 1>on site, we could stick frame a home right next

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<v Speaker 1>to it from the ground up. That's the exact same home.

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<v Speaker 1>They would be the exact same home with the exact

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<v Speaker 1>same effect on property value. Okay, So no, there's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>about a modular home that lowers the property value. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great home, a great design, and it fits

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<v Speaker 1>the lot in your life. Well there, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>find a design that works in that regard, there will

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<v Speaker 1>be no change long term value, equity, quality of construction,

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<v Speaker 1>all of it. It's simply about you know, I know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it seems that way for us. We raises questions

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<v Speaker 1>because we're not used to homes being built that way

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in mass, and they're not really in mass.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, you kind of think of it like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>would you hesitate to buy a car from a major

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturer that was produced on an assembly line versus a

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<v Speaker 1>car that the guy next door who's a automotive expert

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<v Speaker 1>built from the ground up in his garage. Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if the guy really knows what he's doing, then no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, sure, shooting that guy's car is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a lot more expensive than if, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, buy the Toyota that just rolled off the

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<v Speaker 1>line off the factory. Not a quality difference, not a problem, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>just a difference in manufacturing process and as a result,

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<v Speaker 6>I appreciate your answer, Thank you guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck with that, my friend. I'm sorry that you

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<v Speaker 1>lost that home, and good luck and piecing it together.

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<v Speaker 1>You are you are thinking all the right thoughts, exploring

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<v Speaker 1>every avenue as we go.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, you're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on

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<v Speaker 5>demand from KFI AM six four.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad that you are on the program with us. We

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<v Speaker 1>are talking finding your style today. But we're in the

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<v Speaker 1>second hour, so I've been taking calls. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>take at least one more, maybe two, if we can,

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<v Speaker 1>before returning to that conversation about finding your style. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's go back to the phones. I'm ready for something,

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<v Speaker 1>anything tough. Give me a tough one. Let's see. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk to David. I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>David, Welcome home.

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<v Speaker 3>Good morning Dane. My name is David Dyke. Have a

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<v Speaker 3>wood framed slat frames on the outside a garage.

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<v Speaker 7>Built nineteen twenty five in Glendale. The tar paper is

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<v Speaker 7>gone on the inside or torn. I want to waterproof

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<v Speaker 7>and insulate and drywall the interior of the garage, and

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<v Speaker 7>I staple tar paper to the inside of the two

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<v Speaker 7>by fours. If I do that, should I cock it

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<v Speaker 7>around the two by fours and would spray on insulation

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<v Speaker 7>be better?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that was that was a full menu right there,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. Yeah, So all right, let's just let's set

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<v Speaker 1>the scene here. We've got a garage and built in

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<v Speaker 1>when twenty five, twenty seven?

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<v Speaker 2>When'd you say nineteen twenty five?

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<v Speaker 1>So we literally have a one hundred year old garage

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<v Speaker 1>standing on your property in Glendale. And it's obviously a

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<v Speaker 1>wood framed garage, and it has siding on the outside.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>And as we look inside the tar paper, the building

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<v Speaker 1>paper that was put on the studs first before the

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<v Speaker 1>siding was put on, the paper that was put on

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred years ago, it's all messed up and gone

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<v Speaker 1>or missing or torn away or I mean, is some

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<v Speaker 1>of it there, some of it not? What's is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Generally just it's there and some of it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So, and and obviously the the the the question is

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<v Speaker 1>all geared around the idea that we don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>touch the siding on the outside.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, sure, okay, unless there's a better suggestion for tearing

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<v Speaker 7>it all off and doing something different.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, I'm okay, okay, So I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 1>completely honest with you. All Right, the absolute guarantee of

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<v Speaker 1>of getting it right for the long term, considering that

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<v Speaker 1>the building paper is torn, screwed up, missing all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. Uh, the absolute guarantee would be to remove

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<v Speaker 1>the siding from the outside. I'm at one hundred year

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<v Speaker 1>old siding. I'm not saying that it's gonna survive, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but to remove it do everything as if we were

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<v Speaker 1>approaching this project with fresh framing, meaning that we strip

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<v Speaker 1>down to the studs, and that we wrap the outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the of the stud the outside of the garage

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<v Speaker 1>walls in vapor barrier and you know, fresh waterproofing materials,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we put new siding back on. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>the new siding could be designed and ordered in such

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<v Speaker 1>a way that it looks like the old stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>so when we put it back together, even though it's

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<v Speaker 1>brand new, we're maintaining that hundred year old story. If

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<v Speaker 1>that's the important thing. So the fact of the matter is, David,

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<v Speaker 1>that if we want an absolute guarantee that we've got

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<v Speaker 1>everything buttoned up from day one, you got to take

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<v Speaker 1>the old siding off and treat it new. Because here's

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<v Speaker 1>the trouble. The trouble is we can do a lot, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying that that's what I would do either.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that that that's the one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee that we get it right. We can do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot from the inside. Okay, It's just that if there

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<v Speaker 1>are leaks or any water intrusion through the siding whatsoever,

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<v Speaker 1>onto the outside faces of those studs, then there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way to stop that. If the building paper is still there,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. If it's been torn away and pulled out

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, behind the face of the stud as

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<v Speaker 1>it gets torn away, which is often the case, there

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<v Speaker 1>are elements of you know, portions of those studs that

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<v Speaker 1>are bare between them and the siding and then the siding,

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<v Speaker 1>and a good paint job is the only thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>keeping that stud from being you know, having moisture intrusion,

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<v Speaker 1>but well maintained siding and a good paint job will,

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<v Speaker 1>in fact should handle the vast majority of that, and

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<v Speaker 1>that saves you from yanking all that siding off. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's just we're gonna go with Plan B, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the sidings in decent shape, and we're gonna give it

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<v Speaker 1>a really good and we're gonna caulk it on the

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<v Speaker 1>outside on every lap. We're going to give it a

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<v Speaker 1>really great exterior paint job so that it is shedding

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<v Speaker 1>water and not absorbing and we're gonna get all that

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<v Speaker 1>tuned up and from the inside. Yes, we're gonna then

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<v Speaker 1>start with running calking down the sides of the studs

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<v Speaker 1>where it connects to the siding, so that we seal

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<v Speaker 1>up those channels as best we can, and then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run new vapor barrier. We can call it vapor barrier.

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<v Speaker 1>You can use building paper, you could use a waterproof

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<v Speaker 1>roofing membrane that's self ceiling. There are all sorts of

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<v Speaker 1>different varia. You could even apply a wet compound like

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<v Speaker 1>Redguard or a roller applied waterproofing membrane to.

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<v Speaker 2>The back side.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a number of different ways you could approach it,

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<v Speaker 1>but to just assent, wrap down the side of the stud,

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<v Speaker 1>attach it to the side of the stud, and wrap

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<v Speaker 1>into the bay so that it's backing is pushed up

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<v Speaker 1>against the siding. And then that'll give you the freedom

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<v Speaker 1>once that's all done and calked in to insulate and

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<v Speaker 1>to dry wall the inside. Now, if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>ask me to evaluate that, I would take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at the outside siding. If the outside siding seems like

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<v Speaker 1>it's in good shape still and that we can bring

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<v Speaker 1>it back caulk it, paint it, seal it up really

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<v Speaker 1>really well. If there isn't any indication currently of major

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<v Speaker 1>water intrusion, and that's the thing we should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to see on the inside, since we're just looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the backside of siding now and studs. If we don't

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<v Speaker 1>see any major leaks or water intrusion coming through, then

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<v Speaker 1>that's a really encouraging sign. And I would probably go

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<v Speaker 1>with Plan B because it's a lot more inexpensive than

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<v Speaker 1>replacing all the siding on the outside. You just give

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<v Speaker 1>it all of that, and I would add one more thing,

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<v Speaker 1>just to make sure that we've got no moisture getting

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<v Speaker 1>into those bays from the outside. We might take some pecks.

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<v Speaker 1>This is kind of an unorthodox but a really good idea,

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<v Speaker 1>some PEX tubing, which is you know, plumbing pipe PEX

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<v Speaker 1>piping which is flexible, And I might drill a half

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<v Speaker 1>inch hole in the top plate of each stud bay

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<v Speaker 1>and run a little PEX tubing up through that bay

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<v Speaker 1>and then just up into the attic space as basically

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<v Speaker 1>a snorkel or a vent, a place where air that

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<v Speaker 1>might get humid or moisture ridden trapped inside that for

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<v Speaker 1>any reason whatsoever, has a chance to bleed off into

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<v Speaker 1>the attic space or the roof rafter area above. But

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<v Speaker 1>you could approach it with that multi layered approach. It'd

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<v Speaker 1>be faster, it'd be cheaper, and you know, depending on

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<v Speaker 1>how good the sighting is on the outside, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you might pull it off and have you know, decades

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<v Speaker 1>of good performance there. The only absolute guarantee would be

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<v Speaker 1>to pull the siding them.

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<v Speaker 3>And so if I pull the siving or is our

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<v Speaker 3>other wood that like on a tough shed that would

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<v Speaker 3>work good for that? Or should I just stuckle it?

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<v Speaker 3>I stuckled the house at already. Oh I didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to spend that much more money.

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<v Speaker 1>On it, right, I mean if you went that way

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<v Speaker 1>then yeah, match you know, stuck of the house, stuck

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<v Speaker 1>of the garage. Match the house with the garage, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh yeah, then then you wouldn't. Then we've set all

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<v Speaker 1>of that aside.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, I appreciate your wisdom on this.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing, David good Luck.

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<v Speaker 1>Just just know, whichever way you go, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>just want to be as thorough as possible to make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that what you're doing is not compounding the problem

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<v Speaker 1>but solving as many along the way. You don't always

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<v Speaker 1>have to solve every single problem or every single weakness.

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<v Speaker 1>If you solve ninety eight percent of them, chances are

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<v Speaker 1>you know you've resolved it. But if you've already changed

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<v Speaker 1>the style of the house, then if it's in your budget,

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<v Speaker 1>the safest way to go for the garage long term

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<v Speaker 1>would be to strip the siding off, wrap it, stucco it.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll have a brand you know, for all intents and purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll have a brand new garage that will last decades,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it'll last another one hundred years on you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, y'all when we return, let us return to

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<v Speaker 1>this topic of finding your style, the very interesting discussion.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to miss it. There is more hope

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<v Speaker 1>than you think. You're listening to Dean Sharp the House

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<v Speaker 1>Whisper on KFI. This has been Home with Dean Sharp

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