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Speaker 2: And now I'd love to introduce Roxane Instrum.
Speaker 1: Roxane is the.
Speaker 2: Founder and visual storyteller behind Hawa Images. She is the
Speaker 2: mother of four, wife to Jason of almost twenty five years, entrepreneur,
Speaker 2: MS warrior, and visual storyteller who pursues living vulnerably and
Speaker 2: confidently and helping others do the same. What lights her
Speaker 2: up is seeing women feel seen, empowered and both encouraged
Speaker 2: and challenged to really live wide, awake and abundantly. As
Speaker 2: a visual storyteller, she helps purpose driven entrepreneurs show up
Speaker 2: with clarity and confidence and connection through brand photography that
Speaker 2: goes deeper than a headshot, so their visuals finally match
Speaker 2: the true value they bring and their connection with their
Speaker 2: ideal clients, and to share their story with intention and strategy.
Speaker 2: This is so beautiful. I love your purpose, Roxanne. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for being here and welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much Tristan for having me. And you
Speaker 3: know I love women that choose to share their platform
Speaker 3: with other women, so that's kudos to you. Thank you
Speaker 3: for having me.
Speaker 2: Absolutely we met recently at a dinner that was so fun.
Speaker 2: And what I loved about that dinner that I co
Speaker 2: host and Raleigh with Christy Straw is that I immediately
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, this is a person I want to
Speaker 2: hang out with. This is a person that like shares
Speaker 2: my values. This is a person that lights up every
Speaker 2: person in the room, you know, and makes them a
Speaker 2: better version of themselves.
Speaker 1: So I'm so happy you're here.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I feel the same. That was awesome,
Speaker 3: Thank you girl.
Speaker 2: Absolutely. So let's talk about visual storytelling, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of defining for the audience what that is and how
Speaker 2: you got your start there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, I I share that I'm
Speaker 3: a visual storyteller instead of leading with I'm a photographer,
Speaker 3: because for me, photographers take pictures. And I know that
Speaker 3: for some people maybe that's just like a word, but
Speaker 3: I think that words really matter and they have power,
Speaker 3: and I try not to take anything from anyone that
Speaker 3: I'm collaborating with. So for me, I don't even really
Speaker 3: say I take pictures. I try not to say that
Speaker 3: I co create images with my clients or with people.
Speaker 3: And really, how I got started in this is it.
Speaker 3: You know, it didn't really photography, sort of, I joke.
Speaker 3: It sort of happened to me, and I found it
Speaker 3: through the desire to like express what I was experiencing
Speaker 3: and the stories of others. But it really found me
Speaker 3: through like people and their stories. I lived on a
Speaker 3: small island off the coast of East Africa for four
Speaker 3: years and when I moved there, you know, I think,
Speaker 3: you know, you always at least is how God gets
Speaker 3: me into stuff in my life. I never really know
Speaker 3: what's going to happen, or I probably wouldn't have moved right.
Speaker 3: It was all the heart and the challenge, but also
Speaker 3: wrapped up in that is probably some of the richest
Speaker 3: four years of our lives as a family. And I
Speaker 3: really arrived thinking like, oh, like we were there doing
Speaker 3: educational and geo work. I'm like, oh, I have something
Speaker 3: to offer. And what I quickly realized is I had
Speaker 3: everything to learn. And I really made real friendships that
Speaker 3: were forged across like a lot of differences, and I decided, like,
Speaker 3: this is so powerful, but like what people in the
Speaker 3: US think about my friends is just not the reality.
Speaker 3: And it's too sacred and holy for me to just
Speaker 3: tell my version of this story. And I saw a
Speaker 3: lot of like unethical what I would consider now unethical storytelling,
Speaker 3: where you know, foreigners come in maybe quote unquote with
Speaker 3: the best of intentions. I feel like people of privilege
Speaker 3: and power love to just rely on their intentions and
Speaker 3: would straight up actually tell lies or you know, the
Speaker 3: language barrier was there, things like that, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: that's not that's not really what's happening or that's not
Speaker 3: really what these the folks that had become dear friends
Speaker 3: to me wanted to share. So I started taking photography classes,
Speaker 3: but the joke was on me because power was very unreliable.
Speaker 3: So I would have these courses online that I could
Speaker 3: never log into or be on, but I had like
Speaker 3: the printouts, and then I would just study and learn
Speaker 3: and go around. But I really started waiting until I
Speaker 3: was invited in by friends or people in my community,
Speaker 3: and that changed everything. So I always say relationships over
Speaker 3: images became like a huge part of my philosophy. But
Speaker 3: that's how it started for me. And it might seem weird,
Speaker 3: like how did you get to doing brands now? But
Speaker 3: to me it completely tracks because to really tell someone's
Speaker 3: visual story is not just about angles and lighting and
Speaker 3: making them look good, and it's definitely not just about
Speaker 3: a perfect headshot. It's about honoring their story in a
Speaker 3: dignifying way and taking the time to get to know
Speaker 3: what makes them special and what they what they want
Speaker 3: to be seen and known for. So I just I
Speaker 3: came home from that experience like profoundly changed and I've
Speaker 3: never been able to be the same again from that.
Speaker 3: So honoring stories is really important to me.
Speaker 2: That's so beautiful And what I love is that you
Speaker 2: took something that you were learning kind of through your
Speaker 2: heart and through your spirit as well as actually, like,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of mechanics that goes into photography. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of like the felack of very term science
Speaker 2: behind it, right, like a different thing, and it's I'm
Speaker 2: always so impressed with photography because getting a shot that
Speaker 2: tells a story has the right timing and you know,
Speaker 2: truly shares the essence of something right, rather than capturing
Speaker 2: right right, rather than using words that have that taking mentality,
Speaker 2: but really saying like there's a there's a vulnerability here,
Speaker 2: and if you can kind of walk us through how
Speaker 2: you kind of deal with when you have a client
Speaker 2: that has a lot of vulnerability, because that was definitely
Speaker 2: me when I started showing up in my business, especially
Speaker 2: the first few years, and really created an environment that
Speaker 2: allows them to feel safe and seen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, And I try not
Speaker 3: to use the word capture either, which is so hard
Speaker 3: because that's like the language that's used, but it's also
Speaker 3: very colonialistic. You know, there's lots of problematic things with
Speaker 3: just and and again, I'm not trying to be like
Speaker 3: the politically correct word police. I really do believe that
Speaker 3: the way that we talk about things is the way
Speaker 3: that we do things. And so for me, vulnerability is huge.
Speaker 3: And I that's one of the reasons why I will
Speaker 3: never ask someone to do something I'm not doing. So
Speaker 3: I do this myself twice a year. I try at
Speaker 3: least once a year. I also and for me, like
Speaker 3: I think people that know me now might think like, oh,
Speaker 3: it's so easy for her to show up girl bye.
Speaker 3: I used to sweat through my clothes when I was
Speaker 3: like doing a live or like you know, and so
Speaker 3: I think it's like a muscle confidence and you know,
Speaker 3: it's almost like exposure therapy to vulnerability. And again, vulnerability
Speaker 3: that has boundaries because you will not catch me talking
Speaker 3: about a lot of things online because it's not appropriate,
Speaker 3: and there's boundaries around things in my life. But for me,
Speaker 3: before I ever pick up the camera, and I offer
Speaker 3: free discovery calls, but I always tell my clients like,
Speaker 3: don't hire me if you're not prepared to be sick
Speaker 3: of me, because for me, a lot of the work
Speaker 3: comes before I do not I say this all the time.
Speaker 3: I will not roll up your location and take my
Speaker 3: camera out of my bag. That's not I'm just not
Speaker 3: that photographer. And there's a lot of great ones that do,
Speaker 3: and that's fine. But for me, I try to get
Speaker 3: to know my clients, their business, their story, their uh
Speaker 3: like their offers, there, why they started, their why, like
Speaker 3: their client experience, what makes them different because in a
Speaker 3: world where increasingly, especially with AI, everything is kind of
Speaker 3: looking the same or sounding the same, right, that is
Speaker 3: how you stand out is with your unique story. And
Speaker 3: my clients really say a lot of times I hear
Speaker 3: from them that, like the strategy part of this was
Speaker 3: huge for them because they the intention around that and
Speaker 3: the strategy was really really big. So I try to
Speaker 3: like be you know, hype woman, cheerleader, encourage them. I
Speaker 3: show poses like nobody is ever going to feel like
Speaker 3: they don't know what to do their hand with their
Speaker 3: hands on a shoot with me, you know, but we
Speaker 3: also create an entire brand guide, We have a planning call,
Speaker 3: so like they know part of that vulnerability is because
Speaker 3: they don't know the unknown. It's already hard enough, especially
Speaker 3: the messages women get about their bodies and about who
Speaker 3: they are to show up and take up space, but
Speaker 3: I try to make sure that they as much as
Speaker 3: they can know they do know, and then I allow
Speaker 3: space during our actual session to do that. I also
Speaker 3: feel like I hear a lot of people and an
Speaker 3: amazing mom and women of color that I was on
Speaker 3: a podcast with. I will always say that she's the
Speaker 3: one that shared this with me and it was amazing,
Speaker 3: But she said, you can't create places of safety for people.
Speaker 3: You can only invite safety. Safety is felt by each individual,
Speaker 3: So I can never say I create safe spaces. What
Speaker 3: I try to do and what I work really hard
Speaker 3: at is inviting safety. And people decide, you know that
Speaker 3: for themselves. So you know I am I and you know,
Speaker 3: especially in my past, self described hot mess, don't have
Speaker 3: it all together, take messy action. But I show up
Speaker 3: as my full real self so that clients know that
Speaker 3: perfection is not the goal, but like presence and being
Speaker 3: real is. And I think, you know that's my whole
Speaker 3: ethos people over photos and so I really want to
Speaker 3: take the time. Like my client on Friday, she's amazing,
Speaker 3: lost her keys. We were running late. I was like, girl,
Speaker 3: we nobody's worried. Everybody's fine, don't worry about it, like,
Speaker 3: and I just want people to know that, like before,
Speaker 3: I'm worried about just you know, your gallery, Like the
Speaker 3: experience is as important to me as the final gallery.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, that's how you make people feel because they don't
Speaker 2: forget that, you know. Well, like as you shared your
Speaker 2: your updating kind of your branding, your update, your business changes,
Speaker 2: you know, even like I had my.
Speaker 1: My like style colors done.
Speaker 2: You know, and so even something like that, as you
Speaker 2: get more information and new information that you're kind of
Speaker 2: adjusting things. But people know consistently that they can go
Speaker 2: to you and like who they are in that moment,
Speaker 2: how they're feeling, what truth they want to share with
Speaker 2: their clients or potential clients is so beautiful and so lovely,
Speaker 2: and so I so appreciate you offering the invitation to
Speaker 2: those to those spaces and tweaking as you need to
Speaker 2: with each individual person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's like, you know, I always say I
Speaker 3: take on a limited number of clients, and part of
Speaker 3: that is because of the other things I have gone
Speaker 3: on in my life and my other first things. I
Speaker 3: try to keep first things first, right, don't always get
Speaker 3: the perfect balance. I don't even know if that exists,
Speaker 3: but it's like a rhythm. But one of the reasons
Speaker 3: I do that too is because, like I kind of
Speaker 3: low key become a little bit obsessed with my clients
Speaker 3: and they become friends and I'm cheering them on and
Speaker 3: I want them to win. And I think that's who
Speaker 3: I was before I pivoted to brand photography, so it
Speaker 3: was such a natural fit. I'm always like, you know,
Speaker 3: I always say, like pay time. I tell my kids,
Speaker 3: it's all the time, pay attention to like what lights
Speaker 3: you up, what needs in the world. You see that
Speaker 3: you can impact for good and use your gifts like
Speaker 3: that's a god thing, Like he gave you that and
Speaker 3: put that in you, like the things I keep you
Speaker 3: up at night? How can you impact change in a
Speaker 3: positive way? And I think for me, one of the
Speaker 3: things I want to do is like help women to
Speaker 3: know that they don't have to wait to claim space
Speaker 3: or be successful, that they can define that on their
Speaker 3: own terms, because success for me looks very different than
Speaker 3: it does for someone else. And yeah, I love I
Speaker 3: love seeing women feel empowered to take up space, earn,
Speaker 3: make money, change the world, because we know that when
Speaker 3: women make money, communities get better statistically. Yeah, so I'm obsessed.
Speaker 3: I'm like, let's go we write at dawn, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Anything?
Speaker 2: No, absolutely, and especially as there's often these times when
Speaker 2: we're midshed or like my dear friend Sandy Davis says,
Speaker 2: that messy metal.
Speaker 1: And so when I think about the times.
Speaker 2: Where I've like kind of stretched myself to be like,
Speaker 2: okay it's time to update branding, I'm stepping into that
Speaker 2: woman that I know, but having that kind of photograph
Speaker 2: and having kind of that visual story to be able
Speaker 2: to on those hard days, remember you know who you are,
Speaker 2: and remember that you're always becoming. So I'd love to
Speaker 2: talk about how that really translates into real business impact
Speaker 2: for those purpose driven entrepreneurs and how kind of updating
Speaker 2: the branding does really matter in their journey.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think that a lot of
Speaker 3: this is I think that often if any of the
Speaker 3: women listening can relate, right, if you're an entrepreneur or
Speaker 3: if you're in business, right, we often are juggling a
Speaker 3: lot of things at home, a lot of things in business,
Speaker 3: and we have to write for a lot of time,
Speaker 3: be heads down, just like get it done, like get
Speaker 3: it done. Focus, lock in, as my teenagers would say, right,
Speaker 3: But I think sometimes we don't take the time needed
Speaker 3: to reflect and celebrate what we've already built. And I
Speaker 3: think that that celebration of what we've already built is important,
Speaker 3: not just because it does fuel the next season, right,
Speaker 3: but because it matters to a lot of us are
Speaker 3: in like providing services, right, or coaches or doing these
Speaker 3: things for people, but we're not doing those things for ourselves,
Speaker 3: you know. And I think, like I love so many
Speaker 3: times in the last year, I can tell you stories
Speaker 3: of like women looking at the back of the camera
Speaker 3: and being like is that me? And I'm like, hell, yeah, girl,
Speaker 3: it is, you know what I mean, and like or
Speaker 3: somebody crying and being like I can't believe that this
Speaker 3: is what I've built, you know, And those moments to
Speaker 3: me are like that is what part of this experience is,
Speaker 3: is that it's twofold. It's celebrating what you've done to
Speaker 3: get where you are, and it's helping you show up.
Speaker 3: And literally I was out carrying fire hoses this morning
Speaker 3: at five am, and I am doing that to build
Speaker 3: muscle for the next season of my life, right, and
Speaker 3: confidence is a muscle, So when you size it. When
Speaker 3: you show up in front of the camera with a
Speaker 3: person that feels like that they got you and that
Speaker 3: they're gonna be kind with you, you build confidence to
Speaker 3: keep doing that. And again it's that exposure therapy. I
Speaker 3: always say, like people say to me, oh, I hate
Speaker 3: pictures of myself, I'm like, girl, hold my beer, let's go,
Speaker 3: because you just have not been photographed by somebody who
Speaker 3: sees you yet or who really and now there are
Speaker 3: some things we have to deal with in therapy. Like
Speaker 3: I've been in therapy for years and years and years
Speaker 3: of my life. So I'm not saying a photo shoot
Speaker 3: fix is that there are things that a therapist and
Speaker 3: hard work and like working on yourself in reflection fixes,
Speaker 3: but sometimes it is also exposing ourselves to the thing
Speaker 3: that scares us with people like that. When my client's
Speaker 3: book a visionary VIP session, they have a stylist, hair
Speaker 3: and makeup, video support, they have an entire hype squad
Speaker 3: of women in a room, and it is special. When
Speaker 3: I tell you that experience is like there's nothing like it,
Speaker 3: Like it's just like all these women in this room
Speaker 3: want you to look your best, be your best, win
Speaker 3: and that is like it's a special thing. And I've
Speaker 3: heard that over and over again from clients, and I'm
Speaker 3: really proud of like inviting that kind of environment. So
Speaker 3: it's you know, you deserve to celebrate what you've built,
Speaker 3: and let's ride at dawn and step into the next
Speaker 3: season of what you're building, because what got you where
Speaker 3: you are is not going to get you where you're going.
Speaker 3: And that's not a scarcity mindset. That's a you deserve
Speaker 3: and the confidence that you're going to continue to build
Speaker 3: will help you go where you haven't gone before, even
Speaker 3: if it's scaling back and just knowing your value and
Speaker 3: your worth. Right, it's not always about scaling up. That's
Speaker 3: not always what success looks like. So I just think
Speaker 3: like business and life is very seasonal. Have I just
Speaker 3: made a hard business decision this morning actually to pull
Speaker 3: back from something because it's just not the right season.
Speaker 3: And I reserve the right to edit my life at
Speaker 3: any time, And so I just want to say to women, like,
Speaker 3: edit your life, step in to confidence, celebrate what you've built,
Speaker 3: and step into the next season, and you deserve. Like
Speaker 3: I hear so often people are like, I'll do it
Speaker 3: when I have more clients, I'll do it. When I
Speaker 3: lose ten pounds, I'll do it win. And when is
Speaker 3: the last time you hired someone because they were ten
Speaker 3: pounds thinner?
Speaker 1: Never?
Speaker 3: Never, You hire people because they are experts at what
Speaker 3: they do and they are leading by example. There's something
Speaker 3: inspirational about that or something about that brand story that
Speaker 3: resonates with you, or that service you need. You have
Speaker 3: fomo that product, you have fomo about it, whatever it is,
Speaker 3: and you don't create that by playing small.
Speaker 2: And that all also speaks to So I talk with
Speaker 2: my clients about their non negotiables, right and so by
Speaker 2: your season kind of editing and getting really really clear
Speaker 2: on like this is either a no, this is a
Speaker 2: not now you know if it aligns in the future,
Speaker 2: or this is you know very much a yes. Full
Speaker 2: body and those non negotiables of you know, time for sleep,
Speaker 2: you know, body movement, making sure you're actually eating so
Speaker 2: often women just don't, or skin but you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, it's like we need to build strong.
Speaker 1: Bodies, like that's how we do it, as.
Speaker 2: Well as you know, making time for their legacy and
Speaker 2: their goals. And you know, for me, one of my
Speaker 2: non negotiables is joy and whimsay because I'm not who
Speaker 2: I the best version of me and who I want
Speaker 2: to be. If I don't have that in my week,
Speaker 2: it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: I become very like blah and very low.
Speaker 3: And love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so in talking about that, I also wanted
Speaker 2: to talk a little bit about kind of ethical imagery
Speaker 2: because for me, i'm someone when I see when i'm
Speaker 2: connecting with the light in someone where i'm researching them,
Speaker 2: when you know, we're doing a call or anything like that.
Speaker 2: If I see images of them in front of an
Speaker 2: audience that we're on the stage, that typically isn't where
Speaker 2: I resonate with them. And that's okay, you know, it
Speaker 2: could be very much they feel in their power in
Speaker 2: that and things like that. But oftentimes photographs can feel staged,
Speaker 2: and that comes through the lens or there's an element
Speaker 2: of maybe you're not lot of others, not your clients,
Speaker 2: trying to showcase who they are. It's like the idea
Speaker 2: of people taking photos in first class and they rented,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and they're trying to use
Speaker 2: photography as a tool to to say they are. I
Speaker 2: don't want to say above where they are but their
Speaker 2: their life is very different, you know. So I just
Speaker 2: wanted to kind of open up the conversation around you know,
Speaker 2: ethical imagery and storytelling and what that means to you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really interesting. I like that you brought that up.
Speaker 3: I say a lot like I actually want to be
Speaker 3: a successful person, not just look like one on Instagram.
Speaker 3: And that being said, success to me does not look
Speaker 3: like necessarily red bottom shoes or you know, super expensive whatever.
Speaker 3: It looks like time and choice and options and impact, right,
Speaker 3: and maybe maybe maybe a nice perse every once in
Speaker 3: a while, you know what I mean. But like, let's
Speaker 3: keep it real. But I think for me, I learned
Speaker 3: so to backtrack. I and this is what I think
Speaker 3: you have to pay attention dur in your life. I
Speaker 3: saw unethical storytelling. I wouldn't have said, I wouldn't have
Speaker 3: had those words at the time. But I saw people
Speaker 3: come in from the outside tell stories about a group
Speaker 3: of people without their consent that weren't dignifying, that wasn't
Speaker 3: what they wanted to be shared about themselves. And because
Speaker 3: I spoke the language, I was like, this is not
Speaker 3: what's happening here, right, And so I saw people with
Speaker 3: quote unquote good intentions, and we cannot I say this
Speaker 3: all the time, but we cannot judge ourselves by our intentions.
Speaker 3: We have to start looking at our impact. And that
Speaker 3: is a harder thing to look at. But you know,
Speaker 3: when we reduce someone to their struggle or their difference
Speaker 3: or a narrative that serves us, but it's at the
Speaker 3: expense of someone else, or like you said, we're feeling
Speaker 3: this pressure to puff up now on brand storytelling sessions,
Speaker 3: I do do what's called cure rated candid imagery. Of course,
Speaker 3: like we invite models in, we have some of that stuff.
Speaker 3: But I always say to people, like my clients will say, well,
Speaker 3: should I buy this if you know, if I do
Speaker 3: I need that for the shoot, And I'm like no,
Speaker 3: if you don't have them, you don't use it.
Speaker 2: No, like no.
Speaker 3: Like now, maybe maybe if your organizer is completely disgusting
Speaker 3: and you've spilt coffee on it sixteen times, I might
Speaker 3: tell you to go get a new journal, right, But
Speaker 3: we are not curating a life that is completely fake.
Speaker 3: We are trying to tell the story in a visually
Speaker 3: appealing way because there is that right, Like I'm not
Speaker 3: trying to like That's why I have a double chin, right,
Speaker 3: don't trust nobody without a double chin. I'm gonna get
Speaker 3: your angle, girl. But it's it's because and also a
Speaker 3: lot of speaker photos are horrible, right, People's like their
Speaker 3: expressions when they speak, So we curate some of that
Speaker 3: so that it's flattering, but it's not inauthentic in the
Speaker 3: way where it's it's telling a story that's not there.
Speaker 3: So I think that you know, we have to tell
Speaker 3: the story that we've been invited to tell with dignity,
Speaker 3: context and excellence. And like I I could have a
Speaker 3: choice right when I lived in East Africa to to
Speaker 3: photograph my friends and use those images to tell stories.
Speaker 3: And I probably overstepped this a couple times, right, and
Speaker 3: I had to pull back. Like actually, when I went
Speaker 3: through a redid my entire website. This was years ago,
Speaker 3: five or six years ago, I realized, I don't know
Speaker 3: that I have informed consent for some of these amazing images,
Speaker 3: so I'm taking them down. So I'm not at all
Speaker 3: saying I haven't made mistakes. What I think you have
Speaker 3: to do is edit your life as you realize, right
Speaker 3: and as you know better. And I really give a
Speaker 3: lot of credit to Photographers Without Borders. I went on
Speaker 3: a trip to Guatemala with them and I got certified
Speaker 3: in ethical storytelling and the questions. That is a bipocket
Speaker 3: like women led organization. And what is so amazing about
Speaker 3: that is like they are asking hard, uncomfortable questions and
Speaker 3: that really helped me because in the non for profit
Speaker 3: and organizational works especially, the stakes are high, like it's easier,
Speaker 3: and that's why actually some organizations choose not to work
Speaker 3: with me. One maybe because of price thing, but two
Speaker 3: it takes more time to do something the right way,
Speaker 3: and people want it quick and dirty and they just
Speaker 3: want to tell a story to get funding. But I
Speaker 3: would tell you too, the impact and the funding that
Speaker 3: is going to be people staying with you for the
Speaker 3: long term is going to be when you do that
Speaker 3: better and when you do it with dignity and intention
Speaker 3: and you really get that informed consent. So images shape
Speaker 3: how we see each other. Right, they can dissuade us
Speaker 3: from loving each other, they can reinforce fear, or they
Speaker 3: can open opportunity to truly see each other. And it's
Speaker 3: not neutral. Photography is not neutral. It actually lends itself
Speaker 3: to exploitation. So I want to be very careful in
Speaker 3: how I use it. I consider it a huge responsibility
Speaker 3: that I have this camera, and for me, I try
Speaker 3: to use it as a tool. I try to show
Speaker 3: it's like a mirror to show people who they really are,
Speaker 3: the beauty, the amazingness that God created them to be.
Speaker 3: That maybe sometimes like we all lose sight of.
Speaker 2: Absolutely no, there is that energetic impact through absolutely yeah, And.
Speaker 1: I think we see that through the impact of social media.
Speaker 2: We see that through the impact of where we connect
Speaker 2: with incredible you know, business owners, and we also see
Speaker 2: the you know downside of that.
Speaker 1: So that you spoke to I'd love to talk about
Speaker 1: where the audience can find you.
Speaker 2: You also have some incredible things that you've kind of
Speaker 2: released this summer, so please share you know, all that.
Speaker 1: You have going on in your world.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I want to say one more thing too.
Speaker 3: We didn't get to this question, but as an MS warrior,
Speaker 3: I always say this, like, if you if if for
Speaker 3: a moment, the moment, the mom of twenty years is
Speaker 3: going to come out if you are you know, charging
Speaker 3: ahead full steam. I actually feel like for me, I
Speaker 3: had a gift of a life disruption, of a life
Speaker 3: changing diagnosis that forced me to take things like rest
Speaker 3: and nutrition and sleep and you know, sleep hygiene and
Speaker 3: like therapeutic care, all all those things, like breath work,
Speaker 3: like all those things very much more seriously. But I
Speaker 3: my hope and prayer is that if you are listening,
Speaker 3: you never feel less then, and you never feel like
Speaker 3: you're not doing enough. You feel and know that you
Speaker 3: can stop right where you are, edit make the changes
Speaker 3: you need to be the hero of your own story,
Speaker 3: and trust that you are not going to miss what's
Speaker 3: good for you in caring for yourself. That's never where
Speaker 3: you're gonna miss it. And we don't, as especially as women.
Speaker 3: We don't just care for ourselves because we're moms and
Speaker 3: so our kids deserve it. We care for ourselves because
Speaker 3: we deserve that. And so I think a lot of
Speaker 3: people will be like, I have to do it for
Speaker 3: my kids. It will have an impact on them because
Speaker 3: they will see us and the biggest thing is modeled.
Speaker 3: But that's not why I care for myself. I care
Speaker 3: for myself because I'm worthy of caring for myself. And
Speaker 3: I just want women listening to know they are worthy
Speaker 3: of caring for themselves, hopefully before a life changing diagnosis,
Speaker 3: so but thank you so much for the opportunity. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can find me at howa Hawaimages dot com and
Speaker 3: I'm over on Instagram. I have more fun on the
Speaker 3: Instagram streets than the LinkedIn streets. The LinkedIn streets be boring, y'all,
Speaker 3: but my shenanigans are more on the Instagram streets. But
Speaker 3: I love connecting. I'm a local photographer, brand storyteller, visual
Speaker 3: storyteller based in Nightdale, right outside of Raleigh. Shout out
Speaker 3: to Nightdale. I love my town and I do work
Speaker 3: all around the Triangle and I've done work all around
Speaker 3: the world, you know, Taiwan, India, East Africa, so I
Speaker 3: love traveling as well. It's always going to be a
Speaker 3: part of my heart because that's where I started my
Speaker 3: photography journey. And then yeah, I would love I am
Speaker 3: right now really looking to partner. Like I offer free
Speaker 3: discovery calls where and I don't follow up with you
Speaker 3: to the end of time. I just want to hear
Speaker 3: about your brand and business and see if it's aligned alignment.
Speaker 3: Transparency are also huge values of me and authenticity, So transparency,
Speaker 3: like I show you my typical session producer between one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty and two hundred and fifty images from
Speaker 3: one photoshoot. So it's no joke like you're going to
Speaker 3: be tired, but you're going to be grateful when you
Speaker 3: get that gallery because it's a lot. If you are
Speaker 3: showing up and building a business and a brand and
Speaker 3: a life that you love on social media, I would
Speaker 3: love to cheer you on. I would love to give
Speaker 3: you assets that are going to build that for you
Speaker 3: in a way that is aligned and feels like you,
Speaker 3: but like snatched and elevated.
Speaker 1: Awesome.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Rock Sanne, and thank you yeah
Speaker 2: for watching Musings and Modalities.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me Tristan, I really appreciate it.
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