Speaker 1: Incredible. No, I hunger for plasma. I took it through
my hands.
Speaker 2: I could feel it coarsely through his skins, right into
my fingers.
Speaker 1: I must keep trying.
Speaker 2: To rid myself of this horrible need for plasma.
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Now I'm joined by Hey.
Speaker 2: I'm the Anamark Castelmas.
Speaker 1: Yes, a little bit of a switcheroo today. It was
supposed to be dealt in Kirkland. By Kirkland is busy
moving Shay's body, so.
Speaker 2: He recoiled from this one, for sure he did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, doesn't tell us about this trip chaise
on all of a sudden, he can't make this episode.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: Even though Emily says she's seen pictures of uh Shaye
and Grease, I'm telling you it's all. It's all just
another clone for a kirk compasser to kill him on.
Speaker 2: But that makes sense because you know, as you know,
I'm coming to Colone and visy guys this weekend. And
I said, Hey, we're going to do this hike on Sunday. Yeah,
do you want to come you and Shane. He's like, ah,
we kind of plans like maybe we'll make it so
the classic you know Dodgy answer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and then he'll at ten thirty, Oh I's
gonna be there whatnot?
Speaker 2: So she's busy, I'm coming out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he said the same to me, so we'll see.
But yeah, No, we got the week a little earlier
in the week because of we got Thunderbolts tomorrow. So
if you happened, Yeah, if you haven't be listening to
this and you haven't checked our predictions cast, check that out.
Speaker 3: That came out a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: We did that one earlier just because there's lots of
recordings on the bound and that was to get all
four of us together. But yeah, check that out. You
got twenty four hours too, or maybe longer, who knows.
Whenever you want to listen to that. It is very
it's worth it. I'm not sure if you've heard it, Dylan,
but there is a chat GBT that Terror did kind
of accidentally. He told it to stress on the relationships
of thunderbolts, to like build that up in that, but
then the chat GPT chat GBT took that as like
a romance thing, so the whole thund your Bolt scenario
was more about them.
Speaker 2: That's a good concept, so that could be fun. Yeah,
I heard that was a spicy one. I haven't gone
back and listened to it yet, so I should go
check that at least that part out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a fun listen. Yeah, We've got
lots of good stuff, you know, speaking of us, we
just did side Quest this week. We talked some Switch News,
and we talked some what we've been.
Speaker 2: Playing, and we talked about GameCube just randomly for like
twenty five thirty minutes, which you know, it's great.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 2: It was a very off the cuff sort of episode
in that way. I for like a lot of good tangents,
which is always all my favorites.
Speaker 1: It made sense because we were talking about the GameCube catalog.
Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about star Fucks for like
at least fifteen minutes, and it's like Starfucks ain't relevant,
you know, but we're just having some good combos.
Speaker 1: Anyway.
Speaker 3: Someone has to keep the dream alive.
Speaker 1: You know. I'm not saying we kept the dream alive
because there's other people, but you know, in the Gaming podcast,
I listened to I didn't hear many people talking about
three D Donkey Kong Wan, right, but you me, yeah,
would always talk about that every few months. So my
hope is like me projecting like I feel like we've
done that a few times Strikers, and I know there's
companies want to make money, but like Strikers, Marvel Alliance
and Donkey, I feel like now for me specifically sure,
Star war Fox, but specifically for me Star Fox Adventures
two or something like that, I'm putting that into the
ether happen. You know, I think it's got the next
five years. I don't really think so, but you never know.
I think we get some pizza bet on that.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do the tab pizza bet on
that now.
Speaker 1: I like to still make pizza bets and stuff I'm
confident about.
Speaker 3: With you, I gotta talk. Maybe we'll have a little tangent.
Speaker 1: We gotta talk about our pizza bet but as spobs
bring up some we're gonna talk about little second. Her says,
I was finally able to get my IMAX seventy millimeters
center tickets. Going to be seeing it literally last screening
before they switch over with Thunderbolts. Tomorrow. That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're losing all their screens, which.
Speaker 1: Will be kind of interesting because it's that's a tough
world because I think Sinners we're gonna talk, but Layer
has a lot of heat and I don't think Thunderbolts does.
So it's one of these things of like, okay, that
is the big dog taking the Imax screens away. But
I bet if theaters, if you were to ask your owners,
like what would you rather be keeping there? Like Sinners
is still for those like those very pristine like showings
or something out just because like it's a big deal.
There's not many films shot in that way. So it's
one of those things of yeah, it's interesting, but ye
were gonna talk about centers and that's sorry.
Speaker 2: Quick quote, like seventy millimeter as a film casual, What
does that? What does that really mean?
Speaker 1: It's so obviously it's shot on film. It's like the
it's the best way to look old and pristine at
the same time. And by what I mean look old,
it's just like I feel like if you watch something
from the eighties or seventies and something now, you just
feel like, oh, there's something different about it and that's
because obviously lots of stuff is shot on digital, Like
that's where Nolan has that, Tarantino does that where they
like to shoot on film and you can see just
certain colors pop. Like I would love to shoot on film,
but it's very expensive and very risky. There's a whole episode, Yeah,
there's so there's a whole episode about Flammable too, right
it is, Yeah, in the studio. There's a whole episode
about them losing a canister or a film because that's
what you can do or digital you just click there.
But it it's just too and I would recommend this
at one point done if you ever want to know,
because I am that's one thing. I feel like I'm
not the best technical guy on the visual side because
there's so many people to break it down. To promote Sinners,
Ryan Coogler did like a twelve minute video breaking down
every single different type of way to film and how
it plays in a different theater. So it's like, oh,
if you watch this in this type of theater, it's
gonna hit you this weight lighting. Yeah, if you were Yeah,
if you just look up like Googler camera, Yeah, it's
worth it's a good explanation. So that's what I would recommend,
because he who's like a master, explains it much better
than I am, other than me just saying like it's
very poppy, it's very visually stunning. I think lots of
the just darkness pops a lot better too, as far
as potable movies all the time, where it's like oh
that like that's one thing about sinners, lots of stuff
in nighttime you can see everything, you know, you see
every and that tests to lighting as well.
Speaker 2: But that's a rarity in these in these times, the
CGI world that we live in now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't even know what is the the
technical classification. Let's see, Uh it refers to a wide
gauge film format used for motion picture photography. Uh, and
negative area significantly larger than the standard thirty five millimeters.
And that's the big thing too where I'm not sure
you've seen pictures but don't have that as well, where
it's literally if you just get an IMAX, you're seeing
tons more on the screen. Like the people that are
watching Centers on Imax versus where I watched it, they've
seen probably a good twenty five percent of just the
sides or the setting more than I have so right now.
Speaker 2: I don't think I mentioned this on our Mickey seventeen review,
which is gonna come up later, but I had at
my theater. It was like the side the side walls
of the theater, like it was projected there as well.
Not in an Imax way, but it was almost just
like taking that image and like stretching it across the
horizontal wall.
Speaker 1: Did anything, Maybe that's what it was.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was not like I would not recommend it.
I don't think it added to the experience at all.
But it was the first time I've been in a
theater for that, so that was. Oh, it was like
cheap imax. I guess. I guess I'm guessing it's cheap
to do that.
Speaker 1: And there you go, Espos. It's probably seen more than
me because I've seen the seventy millimeter like at the
Grand ten or at home, But to me, I've never
at the seed on like an imax yet. But he
says it feels like the next little HD or four
K while showing even more detailed depth. And yeah, that's
to me is as far as I tell about the
pawp like that's just the way just it it, it
just comes alive bit more in details. There's a lot
of people now shooting digital and use filters, ad some
grain and make it look filmed.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I same thing.
Speaker 1: I have love.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the point that you mentioned there. For
me is just like clearer like dark vision, which I'm
sure was also just you know, his lighting and stuff,
and not strictly just like the way he was filming it,
but also taking into account like a million different factors,
but like that that does make a big difference. There's
so many movies that are just so hard to see
these days, so I think that's a that's a great sell.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, oh, here you go, here's the best. Obviously
this is an Imax screen everything, but here's like a
side by side of it in imax but also in
seventy milimeter. I'm gonna try and see how big I
can get it. But just even look at the screen
left is a seventy milimeter right, it's just like a
regular That's what I saw when I watched Sinners. So
it's like it's and like even like I'm sure again
different thing, but like you look at the even to
the other one right here, even the coloring is different
and as far as like how much it pops a
lot more like that. So I'm saying, I know pops
like a generic world, but if you look at all
the side by side, it's like that left side just
looks so much more just visually appealing to me, where
the other one looks it looks like a movie looks great,
looks fine, but it just looks like kind of like
that's why a lot of peoly Tarantia don't like it.
It looks like a digital It almost look like, here's
the thing. It looks too polished. Where I'm gonna talk
about in a second when we talk about what we've
been watching. There's a movie I watched. I'll just say
I watched Terminator, like the original eighties Terminator, and that's
one where it's just like, man, I know, there's all
these reasons why movies look like this now, and it
looks better on a technical level, but there's just something
about that movie of it just looks so grimy and
so but realistic at the same time. And for some
things I think that helps, But for something like Sinners,
that's like a horror and it's trying.
Speaker 3: To be as realistic as possible.
Speaker 1: I think that works to be a bit more on
the grittier side, so and joy as pumps. I wish
I wish we had something obviously, like you guys got
some stuff in Vancouver. Sometimes it's more of a drive
for you. But I wish we had something at the
extreme screen.
Speaker 3: But you're gonna say, oh, the screen X thing.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I've only saw one movie and
that was last year's well, Deadpool Wolverine, where me and
m were in Vancouver and we're there for a little
bit and we're in between shopping and a concert and like,
what are we gonna do? This is when Emily was
mega pregnant with the twins, so it's like, I don't
want to walk around. We also do want to say
in the hotel. So I never saw it. I saw
Deadpool Wolverine, and yeah, you see like it spreads it
out a bit. But I was like, I never need
to do the screenex ever again. It never warped.
Speaker 2: It's not like it's like a detailed as detailed on
each wall. It's just like taking a little bit of image,
like stretching. It looks awful and.
Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes it's just a still image almost
you know, there's some stuff where it's like this isn't moving,
it's just there. But yeah, so and then yeah, as
we mentioned, we got Thunderbolts that's dropping, and then we
got weekly reviews of Last of Us and or I
thought there was something else starting soon. I can't remember.
Maybe there's so many shows coming out with Iron and
Hard and Peacemaker, and now they announced Dexter's gonna be
in July. It's just like a slew of stuff. There's
never a dull moment here, but a few last moments
on that. I feel like the film grain is the
biggest difference. Yes, And like you said, detol something I'm
guilty for people like us a shoe on digital, Like
I put some film grain on dramon chrome. It doesn't
look nearly the standard of other people, but it's like
I love that that older look. I think a lot
of people do, but I like when it's not clean,
and then says, even nowadays and semi millimeter reels aren't
very compatible with lots of theaters. I think even Chinese theater.
For La and a Oppenheimer, they had to build extra
supports to hold the massive reel. They did I should
try and show before we continue that. I remember that
image going around of the massive reel for Oppenheimer, and
it was just kind of like, yeah, this thing was nuts.
Speaker 3: I'll pull it up right now. Just imagine.
Speaker 2: I wonder how much that would affect the budget of
a movie overall.
Speaker 1: Like it's more expensive, for sure, it's more expensive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, look at that thing I was trying to get,
like a big.
Speaker 2: Know what I was expecting. I was expecting like comically big,
but you can fit in your hand. But that is
bigger than a fucking go kart. I don't know why
that's the comparison I had, but it's huge.
Speaker 1: Look at this, like, okay, there we go. I try
to assume it as much. I'm not even with the fudge.
I'm on the wrong thing here getting on. I got
a big.
Speaker 2: Look version of it, Like what you're trying to show me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I clicked another one. But yeah, look at
that thing. That is a massive And yes, that's why
people like Ryan Coogler or Christopher Nolan can do that
where it's not like that that's a big thing. Because
there's a lot of film snobbery when it comes to
add digital film as I've said, I would love to
shoot on film, but it's very I looked into when
we're starting. It's like that's like a endgame goal. That's
very even for a smaller like short film. Just like
it's expensive stuff. You know, it's more work and it's
just it's a lot more time consuming. But it's also
just the funds for that are are quite.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure there's even just like you know a
lot of people working in the film industry who haven't
worked on that, and so like they just don't know
how to how to handle it, take care of it,
and so you got to expect sizes people I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why two in the credits for Sinners, there's
a thank you to Christopher Nolan Emma Thomas, that's Nolan's
wife and producing partner, because before he did Sinners, he
met with Nolan to talk about cameras and that aspect
for because he hadn't shot like he you can watch
that video. He knows his stuff, but again.
Speaker 2: Film that conversation. If they didn't, that would have been
so cool.
Speaker 1: I hope they do. Like sometimes I don't know if
it's going to get an oscar run, but I remember,
for I think it's Once upon Time Hollywood. I think
that's what it was, where Nolan and Tarantino sat down
for two hours and talk and it was like fascinating.
I think that could happen in the future. We're obviously
not that convo, but just like a, hey, we're trying
to make a push for this and Nolan, can you
talk with him or vice versa, and but yeah, like
you can watch the video. Coogler is a very knowledgeable guy,
but even him, like you said, it's different of knowing
everything and then going to work with it. And that's
why he met with Nolan, like, hey, how do you
what's the best way to do this? How do you
work with this? And it's just it's a whole different beast.
So it's a it's something more great to see, but
it is rare because not everybody could make that claim
and stuff. So yeah, it's just like side quest, We're
gonna go on some tangents, but I'm trying to think
there's anything else to promote. Oh. Lastly, on the Patreon side,
obviously subscribe there.
Speaker 3: We very much appreciate it.
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time and that'll be on the Patreon feeds in the future.
And then my last Patreon is this Sunday, the nineteen
ninety four submissions closed, So for the Golden Geek or
just the GV ten year Golden Geeks, we let the
patreons aside and they picked nineteen ninety four. So as
we said before, we're not saying we're gonna get to
all these We're gonna get the films, make our suggestions,
and then we're gonna have a meeting and say, hey,
what's the best thing, what should we watch? What should
we prioritize. But if you want something to be like
potentially watch or at least considered, throw it in there.
And yeah, this is gonna be a fun one because
I feel like this is that's the There's a lot
of films I've seen in that year, but that's the
least recall I have it at a golden Geese we've
done before. Even when we did the Decade one, it's like, oh,
that was only twenty ten, that was ten years ago,
nineteen ninety four. I was only one years old. You
weren't even a lot at that point, I imagine, right,
or was that your birth year?
Speaker 2: I was maybe a fetus at that point at best exactly.
Speaker 1: So that's where it's gonna be an interesting me. It's
just one attack, especially too, cause there's not like a
like a gee Like there's not like, oh, there's the
for sure Marvel or DC or like when we were
telling someone through like two thousand and one.
Speaker 3: To me, it's like, okay, I'm down to do two
thousand and one.
Speaker 1: But for me, it's like, well, Lord of the Rings
just wins everything, you know, Like that's a spoiler if
we ever do that year, Like my vote goes to
everything Lord of the Rings in nineteen ninety four, I'm like,
I don't. I look at the list and there is
one film one, there's one for sure that now I
kind of forgot that one. But the rest of them,
it's like, oh, this is gonna be fun to fill.
Speaker 2: Do you want to find out which one it is
you got to tune in three four months from.
Speaker 1: Now, exactly exactly. That's a build up, but I talked
about a little bit. But yeah, Dan, what have you
been watching before we get into some news here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think I've been on a what we've
been watching section in like a month and a half
or more. So I got a lot of random stuff here.
I'll probably just bring up some of it one that
you know. I Yeah, I would never wish ill on
any of our cast mates here, but this is probably
good that Kirkland is not here and you're here instead,
because I'm pretty sure there's a show that you've praised
at some point, probably around when Indiana Jones is coming out.
But I've now seen both seasons of Flea Bag.
Speaker 1: Watchly's watching it right now for the first time. That's
crazy that you said that. That's crazy that you said
that's funny.
Speaker 2: That is funny timing. But man, what a show so great?
I mean, it's pretty short overall, right, it's like two seasons,
six episodes per season, and then you know, each episode's
like twenty thirty minutes or something like that. Maybe there's
like a longer finale or I don't know what it is,
but like yeah, you know, pretty brief to get through
all of it, And I was looking into it a
bit afterwards, and like, I mean, it seems like it
was planned to even just be a one season and
then like okay, she had a good idea for a
second one and like hat like the idea worked out
I think, and really added to like a new dynamic
to the show and then just like ends in like
a really good place for the character where there's like, yeah,
you could keep going with it, but like and I
and I'll want more because like this is, you know,
as I mentioned, in six episodes per season, pretty short,
like there isn't a dull moment in here, Like every
episode's great, every every episode's funny, and there's no filler
and everything's like either good for the story or just
like super funny. Yeah, but yeah, what a great show,
super fun super hilarious, great performances all around. And the yeah,
I think the dynamics switch that it took for season
two and then even just revealing more of like some
character backstory stuff, like it really goes places in that
short run time. So yeah, such a such a good show.
I know, that's when you've been praising before. So I'm
glad I finally checked it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when I watched. I think it was last
year or like late two thy twenty three. But I'd
heard all good things about it for the longest.
Speaker 3: Time, and I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I'm just looking for something, probably because it was shorter
and it's one that obviously was nice to watch because
it was all out. But man, it just spoke to me.
That's like easy, like a top ten show of all
time for me. Oh cool, Yeah, I think there's I
know people I've said this, people like that's so weird take,
But for me, it definitely like I felt like, even
though that's a female character, at one time in my life,
I was there. And it's funny because Emily so far
she's enjoying season two a bit more. I it was
some tough times in the household today because I was
talking to her as I saw she finished season one,
wasn't sounded like she was loving it as much. Yeah,
so she was not as on board. Shed Like. I
don't think she thought it was bad, but just you know,
she said like it just wasn't engaging her as much.
But season two and maybe it's because that one's like
I think season two is a bit more of the
redemption arc. Not that like she needs redeeming, but it's
just like there is a sense like season one is
very much like you could call her a bad person.
You know, at many times she she's very selfish and
makes a lot of at least i'd say mistakes.
Speaker 2: We're in season one, bigger ego and then yeah ground
in season two.
Speaker 1: At least in season two, it feels like she can
just like admit those were mistakes were season one feel
like are those mistakes with this this person just like
a straight on asshole? Right?
Speaker 3: And I've thought about it before, Like I feel like before.
Speaker 1: I started dating Emily, I was going to always say
it scumbag Travis. And I said to Emily, I'm like,
do you think you've ever thought yourself was a bad person?
Speaker 3: She's like, oh no, really, I'm like, oh I think
I had that.
Speaker 1: And I don't think you need to like the show
because I don't thinkdyl must but Dylan's must is an
upstanding guy. But I just think there was a dark
period by time where made some mistakes and just felt
like it was a kind of f the world situation
and and the other stuff. Though she's just much more
comedic and smart than I ever was, Like all the
jokes in there, like it's just my One of my
favorite bits is when she's like like something's happening and
she's on the train and Sale was playing, she was
kind of like, oh, my period's coming.
Speaker 3: Just super creative stuff.
Speaker 2: Because a good point the music in general, like the
especially in the second season, with like the choir the
like a church choir themes that'll pop up at like
really dramatic moments, which is yeah, it's so like normally
that kind of music does not fit with like a
you know, a quippie comedy sort of thing like this,
but like it's timed really well and like just heightens
these moments and makes them like melodramatic in a way
that's like really fitting for the material as well. So yeah,
the music, it like really adds to the whole vibe
of it.
Speaker 1: And I absolutely love when Hot Priest gets introduced in
the first time that together and she breaks the fourth
wall like Myers boices, what do you doing and she
just doesn't even know, like and I love that there's
no like explanation of why he can sense it. It just
kind of goes with it. But every time that happens,
she's like, where'd you go? Like it's good stuff. And
Andrew Scott, Like, that's the guy I've seen pop up
in a bunch of stuff that I like.
Speaker 2: But that makes black Mirror, right? He did an episode He's.
Speaker 1: A black Mirror. Yeah he has Like what episode is he?
Speaker 2: And again, was he in the Snow the Snow one
with John Hammer? Am I misremembering now the different guy?
Speaker 1: Is he that? Or is he not? I was wondering
if he was in that episode where that teen's in trouble.
But I don't think it's that. Let me say Andrew
Scott Black Mirror. But yeah, he's he's a fantastic actor
that doesn't smithereens.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I think he is an episode?
Speaker 1: Oh no, that the Toe for Grace isn' what Smith?
Speaker 3: Oh what is?
Speaker 1: He's in a car? No?
Speaker 3: I got confuse because it's a car.
Speaker 1: But I thought it was that one where the guy
the kids got caught for watching something really bad and
he's in a car with somebody and they're doing all
these things. But let me get the plot in this episode.
It was the second episode of the fifth season. This
episode was inspired by experienced Brooker had in a car
hired via Uber when the driver got out unexpectedly and
to get a bottle water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, kolbrey Wat. I do not have a great
memory for this episode.
Speaker 1: No me either.
Speaker 2: Actually I do remember him be It's funny. I remember
him meeting the show, but I beggarly remember this episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and to for Grace is in it as well.
Uh Damon Idris, who I can't remember. But yeah, no,
But yeah, I'm glad you watched it enjoyed that it was.
I'm glad you're saying that because I was severely disappointed,
and I'm like, this might be it for us, you know,
the you know, this is one of my favorite shows.
Speaker 2: Might be going back to your fleabag era.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna be like her, everyone's at He's asked
for that third season and yeah, I'm I'm wanting her
to do more because she did a show on HBO
that me and Emily really liked, which I actually got
to bring on. Yeah, she acted and wrote. It's called Run.
It was Dom Hill Gleason, and it's where there's a
couple that they're like sweethearts, and I think they decide like, hey,
in twenty years, no matter what, we're gonna meet up.
And the thing is like his life is changed, she's married,
but that they keep the you know, the bond, and
that gets into a whole situation because obviously their lives
are different and ended on like a cliffhanger. But it
didn't go anywhere, and I'm really disappointed that Amazon, I
think Scoopers. I don't know if it was official, but
it's pretty much announced that Laura Croft show she was
working on is dead. And I thought man like to
have Laura Croft be a three dimensional, witty but tough character,
Like that's the perfect person for it right there, and
it just didn't happen. So I'm really hoping in the
near future we get another show, even if she's not
starring it that she's writing and producing. And again, I
like her acting too. I was on the Camp with You.
I liked her a lot in the and Theanna Jones,
and not just because of Flea Bag. I liked that character,
so I hope to.
Speaker 2: See and I liked her a lot in that movie before.
Haven't watched it. Should I watch Run, like, even though
it has a cliffhanger, is it Is it worth worth.
Speaker 3: The time unless you love Dom hell Gleson.
Speaker 1: No. I think it was a good show and a
very interesting but I don't think it reached.
Speaker 3: The heights of flea bag. I think that's one thing.
Speaker 1: I'd say. It definitely felt a little less than but
a fun, a fun, you know show. And it ends
in a way where it is a cliffhanger, but you
could almost still take it as like, I'm happy enough
with the ending. It's just a very messy ending, So gotcha.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Uh, there's so much here. I think I'll
just pick and choose a few things. So I've I've
this was like a month ago now, but I've watched
all of Spider Man freshman year, caught up on that now.
It's great. It's it's excellent.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I wish that I had made more time to like
be on some of those episodes of you Guys, because
obviously there's tons of crazy stuff that happens. But you know,
I think it's like it's fun to see, especially in
the mcu era. You know, maybe we are pro and
con and like this some of the ways they changed
kind of Spider Man's origin story are just kind of
like skipped over certain things or added like little variations
on things just to mix it up, which I think
is a good idea. But I think this show really
excels at that idea by like taking a known character
and like giving them a new look and like a
new story and like a new connection with Peter Parker
or with Spider Man or you know, and or both
that kind of thing. But yeah, just excellent, like all
the Osborne stuff like between both of them, like such
a fun new dynamic like tombstone come on, Like you know,
we're never like a tombstone like that quality. It is
so cool. So I really really enjoyed that. And yeah,
I mean the I love Nico as well in there,
Like that's such a fun, like kind of random character
to throw in there, and just has like enough set
up there like obviously just like a fun friend, but
like in terms of her powers and whatnot, just being
sort of hinted at to some extent and then like
what we'll see in season two. I'm excited to see
what we get there. But yeah, yeah, just a super
fun show from from starting to finish. I don't think
there was like a dull episode really like it pretty
much just like was killed the whole way.
Speaker 1: Through Coleman Domingo great as Osborne, right, like I hope
they just pull that trigger live action and just.
Speaker 2: Please Yes, that was my takeaway for sure, like please
do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well we got season two supposedly next year, so
your your chance to climb aboard is there, so mm hmm.
Speaker 2: And then okay, maybe I'll mention two other ones. Have
you ever seen this movie from like I don't know,
like mid mid two thousands of Midnight in Paris.
Speaker 1: Yes, I saw it when it first it's with Owen
Wilson and Richel McAdams. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw it
when it first came out a long time ago.
Speaker 3: So how was that for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Very random watch. I don't know why it happened
upon this one, but you know, it's kind of just
like a rom calm and like a down and out writer,
like that kind of storyline that you've seen a million
times before. But I've really enjoyed the movie. I thought
it had like just a really good heart and soul
to it. I think it was. It was very funny.
I think another thing for me too was the cast
because Tom Hdilson's in this movie. So I was like, oh,
there's kind of like a pre Loki like Hiddleson Owen
Wilson connection here in Hidlson's not in a ton but
like to get a few scenes with them is kind
of like fun as like a pre Loky sort of
connection point there. And then another funny kind of empty
thing was Cory Stole is in this movie. He plays
Ernest Hemingway because the premise of this movie is that
this writer like goes out to this one spot in
the middle of Paris at like midnight, and then this
old timey car picks him up and then he goes
like one hundred years in the past, you know, and
then he spends like the night whatever, and then he
comes back to reality and he tries to keep convincing
people that this is real, and I believe him. Of course,
I think he's going crazy. But then he like keeps
going back for more and more. And yeah, So Cory
Stole plays like Ernest Hemingway, which shook me. While I'm like,
this guy looks familiar, but I can't piece it because
he has like hair in this movie and I'm not
used to him having air. You know, playing Yellowjacket and
Modoc and the MCU there, but he is so much
fun in in in that movie, just like such a
such a hut. And then Marian Cottilliard as well is
in this and she kind of because Rachel McAdams is
his wife. But then she kind of has like this
love interest character with her and it's funny too from her,
Like she's an actor who like she is mall to me,
and like I don't think I've really seen her in
anything else maybe like small roles and so like all
I can see is because I've just seen Isception a
million times. But to get here in like another role here,
she's really great, really brings the sauce. Even God, I
can't remember her name, the French actress that we love
so much, who is in dest Randy and Fragile. What
is her name again? Yeah, so do is in here
as well, you know kind of once again a smaller but.
Speaker 3: I forgot that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she really has so many small characters, like same
thing we're doing the retch right now, Mission impossible. She
has like the same thing, like a under five minute
sequence in there too. I like, not a big thing.
She's just like some bad guy working with the bad guys.
But it's just like shoosing so much stuff that we
didn't even track back then.
Speaker 2: But yeah, overall, just a super fun movie. I mean,
I feel like Owen Wilson I kind of think of
more like a comedy guy, but obviously he has like
drama chops and he's like been in so many rom
poms or just romantic movies as well, and he's just
he's just a great actor. I feel like he's not
I feel like he's very even though he's a big name,
he is kind of underrated for his range, even if
he you know, does a lot of the time just
like play the same kind of guy over and over again,
which he's sort of is doing here. But I think
he's a really captivating front men for a lot of things.
So that was a good movie. Midnight in Paris and
my last show out here another random one that's like,
how Dylan, how have you not seen this movie before?
But I've finally seen Wally, which I know is a
oh are you a Wally hater? Are you just a Wally?
Wally's overrated guy? Like where are you at with you?
I know you're not a big fan, but I need.
Speaker 1: To tell yeah, I need to go back. I need
to watch it one more time. I've seen it twice
and I watched it the first time enjoyed it, but
so many people when it came I was like, this
is the best best Pixar movie, and I did think
it was overrated, and then when I saw it again,
I remember liking it more. But I don't know if
I liked it enough to be like this deserves like
that pray, So I think I need like a tiebreaker. Still,
it's a very well made movie. I think it just
kind of drops off once the humans are introducer. I
get what they're going for, but I just I those
f two acts I think are great, and then it's
kind of like, oh, right, this, I feel like it's
a dip. But I feel like I'm sometimes alone on
that camp.
Speaker 2: But yes, I feel like when that comes up in
the discord, there's always like detractors and like hants He's like,
oh it's my favorite, and there's like, you know, back
and forth. Yeah, it's funny, my my. I feel like
my my big takeaway here was just like, oh yeah,
this movie has like amazing animation, which is like the
least interesting take for a Pixar movie. But it's funny,
like I've never I don't know if I've ever even
seen a trailer for a while. You away just like
knew what it was. Seen memes for it, See Seeing
the Box are like you know Blockbuster back in the
day a million times, but like I've just never seen
it in motion and I'm like, oh yeah, the way
they make the robot move around and like he's got
like one of the tractor things are that he's always
moving around with, and like the quirky little stuff. And
obviously it's like compared to other Pixar stuff, and some
other Pixar ones are like this where your protagonists, even
like your second protagonists, like don't really talk. It's more
just like sounds and emotions, but like reading emotions from
like a little garbage robot is you know. It's exceptionally impressive,
of course, and they're just his Pixar of course, our
animation it's like top notch. Yeah, but I love it.
It's it's really great. I don't know if I've I
feel like I haven't seen enough pick Star things, and
I haven't rewatched a lot of old ones other than
like Monsters, Inc. And Incredibles, which I rewatch all the
time to like do a ranking or anything. But yeah,
I really loved Wally of course has a great message
to it and all that and getting closer and.
Speaker 1: Closer to that future I think.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I look out the window and I see I
see the garbage piling up the cubes.
Speaker 1: It's not good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I think I think that's Those are
my good shout outs here from what I've been watching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well, then, like I mentioned, I watched Terminator.
I love that. The reason I watched that is just
because every once in a while, you know, when the
twins are crying losing it, you just kind of have
to entertain them. And I was singing, just humming the
Terminator theme to them, and then I put the Terminator
the on and I was like, I want to be
in that world and watch it. The other reason I've
been wanting to do this is because usually with all
the streaming skeris, I don't own them, so usually there's
a bunch of Terminators, but the only ones I watch
is Terminator one and Terminator two, and those for me
are both like ten out of tens for different reasons. First,
one's like a horror film, and then the second one's
like a fall in action movie.
Speaker 3: It's so it's very similar.
Speaker 1: To like Alien and Aliens, but it's James Cameron both times.
But it feels like that, and it's tough. You could
ask me every day of the week which I want.
I like more. But the problem was like I've been
wanting to the past year to rewatch them, but every
time I do, one streaming service has like one but
not the other. Vice versus like oh I got Terminator two,
but I don't got the one, and then Alternator one's
on but not two, but my mom has craved through
Tellus and with that is like you also get HBO
and Stars and that had Terminator one. So I finally
was like, okay, or I think a hat a T two.
So I got Terminator on Amazon and then T two
on Craze. I'm gonna watch that soon. So but yeah,
I love those movies. I don't want to say too
much because my hope one day is the same thing
that's happened with Alien and Predator. I hope that happens
with Terminator, Like that's another classic eighties franchise that it's
kind of similar where you just have like the first
two that are considered like sci fi masterpieces, and the
rest of franchise. It's just like a bucket of man
or bucket of just like wild combination stuff. And there's
like tons of stars, like they had one with Mackenzie
Davis and they brought and then there's ones where they
brought back Arnold, they brought that Lindel Hamilton. There's one
with Christian Bale, there's one with Amelia Clark like it's
a FRINCHI how man. And so you got the two,
you got Rise of the Machines, got Salvation Genesis aka
Jenny Smith, and then whatever the sixth one is, I
don't know what it is. So there's there's six and
then the HBO did a or Netflix they did like
an anime this year.
Speaker 3: Never finish it, but I was enjoying it.
Speaker 1: Just got busy yet last year, Yeah, thank you, and
I just got busy. But yeah, my hope is I
one day we'll talk in depth when they can announce it. Hey, somebody,
you know they got the fuck you know what the fuck?
Please we're gonna tell it later. Get the guy who's
doing barbarian weapons, get him someone like that. Where like
he's doing Terminator and it's something like Fede or Dan Trachtenberger,
Like I'm waiting for that day when it's a hot
up and coming director that completely gets it and not
just trying for a paycheck. So hopefully one day we'll
do a retro. But yeah, those are fantastic movies. I
won't talk much if you talk about the all time
saw Revenge of the Sith with the girls.
Speaker 3: That was tons of fun. This weekend.
Speaker 1: Let's see my only mini rants I'm gonna bring up
very annoying. Our theater had probably about like twenty five
to thirty people, but where we were sitting. We're in
like let's say, won the middle sections, and there was
one row behind us and then two rows ahead of
us as well that had nobody in there. But then
somebody decided that they had to sit two away from me.
Most annoying thing people heard me rant before. I fucking
hate people. It's just like there and these other ro
there's three of the rows are still prime middle spot.
Why are you sitting like two seats away from me
and my girl? So I actively like satly three away
and separate. It's like it's just like even for your benefit.
It's like why, like why are you sitting here? And
then on Thunderbolts tomorrow, I'm gonna hopefully no one's sitting
in the handicapped spot. I bought the very back row,
and it's like i'd say, like fifty percent full. I'm
K ten. I have someone sitting at K eleven and
K nine. I don't know if it's a group and
they put me in the middle of them or it's
two separate people. But it's like you don't know me,
like why, And there's again there's other spots that could sit.
Why are you sitting right beside me? Group of three
the field? Like just even one seats separated, that's fine,
but it's.
Speaker 2: Just like, sure, it's not Taylor trolling you. I guess
he's not seeing the movie.
Speaker 1: No he's not, so it's not him. And if it
isn't all I'm gonna laugh. But I also think he's
a group of four. And now I'm like in between
a group. See I will. I'm gonna show up late
tomorrow because luckily Logan is soccer so I usually show
up like at Thursday movies like right on the dot,
and I'm gonna sit behind hopefully there's nobody. Of course,
if someone needs the handicap seat, I'm not gonna take it,
like I will sit, but like most of the time,
that's never happened to me, so I'm gonna wait and
sit behind them all.
Speaker 3: I watched The.
Speaker 1: Monkey, uh that it was? It was Okay. I've said
this before. I'm not that person that genre like Final Destination.
I don't like the genre of like unknown entity that
kills you. It's very much like Final Destination. I'd say,
just more silly, and it's very surprising, more silly. Yeah,
it's more okay, Okay, maybe I'll take that back. I
think it's more purposely comedic. I think the last one
is the Final Destination starting at very tongue in cheek.
But I think that franchise started as like a serious
like we're being hunted by death, where this right off
the gate is very over the top, big gore, lots
of just like ridiculous situations. So Tatiana Mascelani was in it,
and she was good. And I know you've sung his
praises before. Other than X Men ninety seven, I don't
think I've seen THEO James and anything. And he was
the lead here he plays a set of twins. He
was great. I was like, oh, man, like this guy,
I want to see in a lot more stuff. So
he was really fantastic. And what a.
Speaker 3: Voice he has. Like that voice.
Speaker 1: Alone, I was like, this guy should be batman like
he has, Like I could see him getting like darker.
So it was good, but definitely like lower of Ozgood Perkins,
not really the I like the more Long Legs Black
Coat's Daughter sort of oz Good. I like that he's
just making some fucked up shit, it's scary, where this
was like it's messed up stuff but like really crazy. Hey.
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was funny.
Speaker 2: Since you've seen his other stuff, obviously Long Legs, but
other ones as well, Like I do you feel like
he's trying to reinvent himself a little bit each time,
like just specifically trying to do something different rather than
just like being picked as like a certain kind of
guy or.
Speaker 1: I think this was that this was him maybe trying
to do something different because all the other movies that
he's done are like Long Legs, if not more slow
and kind of creepy. You know, there's I think I
said it right, The Black Coat's Daughter that's like another
one that has some possession stuff, and that one's really
I got chills on that one's really there's some imagery
in there that's really just messed up stuff. And then
there's another one there where he did There's like a
Ghost in the House, and that was just kind of
slow and like, it's fine.
Speaker 2: The movie is not called a ghost in now, is
is it.
Speaker 1: No, it's not all quickly shout it out to find something,
you know, at least give.
Speaker 2: Them the cock That sounds like a scary movie parody
type thing.
Speaker 1: It does.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The only one I still haven't seen is his Hansel
and Greyl movie, So I could say that maybe that
is like The Monkey where it's a bit more or
sorry it's yeah, it's Grairel and Hansel. Yeah, Black Coat's Daughter.
And then he has a movie coming out next year
called The Keeper. But I'll find out the other one.
But no, I think this was him trying to do
something different, and uh, it didn't work for me, but
I think a lot of people liked it. Yeah. This
one's called I Am the Pretty Thing that Lives in
the House, and that's a that's the ghost movie. So
and it was that one was not not my jam.
So there's a movie called The Woman in the Yard. Yeah,
I'm gonna I'm gonna watch that. Me and Emily have been.
We've made a list because there's because the twins. There's
a lot of movies that I have not seen in
theaters that I usually would, and I think they.
Speaker 2: Are Woman in the Yard. That's a new one, not
an old person.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's a new one, and it's not
as good perk though.
Speaker 2: I've heard that's the Lady in the Veil sitting on
the Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I've.
Speaker 1: Heard mixed things, mostly bad, but still I want to
see what the gimmick is.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then my two final ones.
Speaker 1: I watched Chiscaus bang Bank because I'm still doing my
Valcim rewatches. That was Emily's first time. She liked it enough.
I really liked that one him. If you've never seen
that one time, Dylan, you should watch it. It's him
and Robert Downey. They have such good chemistry. It's like
a PI detective movie, but it's like a caught buddy
cop movie.
Speaker 3: Man, it is it really good.
Speaker 2: That's the list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely some stuff that's not completely I would say
PC it's it's like tropic thunder where it's like you
probably couldn't get away with some of this today, which
is funny because it's also Robert Downey, but uh, really good.
And then finally we watched Nova King because I said,
me and Emily were making a list of k there's
a lot of twenty twenty five movies that have come out.
Usually i'd seen the theaters. I won't see them because
the twins, which ones are you interested in? And we
start with that, and I was pleasantly surprised, like I
thought it looked like like I thought, Okay, this is
a good time. This is like a solid seven. I'm
probably I haven't read yet. I probably would get it
like a nine point five. I highly enjoyed it. That
one's more just like entertainment factor. I don't think it's
like one of the best main movies. There's some cool
cinematography like there. It's definitely like a John Wick mimic
type of movie.
Speaker 2: But I I gotta see it for golden geek's purposes.
Speaker 1: If unless we have a week year, like, the only
one I'd fight for is Jack Quaid, Like he is
really good.
Speaker 3: He plays like this plucky very just.
Speaker 1: Almost like when we met Taylor, like very naive, I said,
in the best way, but very good hearted naive. Where
now we've we've you know, brought him down over the years,
but like does no wrong, thinks everything is great. And
Jack Quaid, who has said he's like the best, like
he's the new Tom Hanks. I think he's the best
guy playing the everyman. Like you can see Jack Quay
and be like, oh, I know that guy like Tom
Hanks is always good at being like, oh, he feels
like a normal person. But there's some like I watched
the Saw movies, there's some fucked up stuff in this
movie because the whole I think, you know the gimmick
right that he can't feel pain, right, so like these
fight scenes and like there's just I'll just say, like
the stuff that happens in the kitchen. It's just I
was wincing because I didn't think they I knew his radar,
but I thought they're still going like way for like
it had Saw like torture in this like John Wick
comedy movie, and I was not expecting that. And there's
some really comedic stuff. The only thing is like it's
it's pretty predictable. Like five minutes in there's like a
twist that's gonna happen later and mean, and the people
know like, oh, this is the twist, right, and then
it happens like okay, like it.
Speaker 3: That's where it's like I.
Speaker 1: Could not give it a perfect score because there's stuff
where it's like this is very paint by numbers. And
I also feel like jack Quaid is like he's elevating
the material more than the materials that good, Like another
actor in here might not be as fun, but uh,
like there's just one scene I'll show.
Speaker 3: It's like a minus way, but he's getting.
Speaker 1: Tortured but he can't feel pain, so he's pretending that
he's in a lot of Penguin's getting Torture's like, oh yeah,
that that fucking hurts, Please don't stop. And I'm not
I'm not Jack Quaid. But it's like a five minute
sequence and it's just it had me. He's doing such
a good job of pretending he's pay he's not really pain,
like he's kind of bored by what's going on, like
minus where like they're like starting to rip out his
fingernails and they show you it's full on like rand
camera it's going on, and he's like, oh, this is
the worst thing in my life, but it's and the
torture has no idea. He's like, yeah, you know, fuck
with me, big guy. Like it's just like it's stuff
that worked for me. So I highly enjoyed. I was surprised,
So I can't get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like I was just looking at my
Golden Geeks list for this year, but I have only
seen two movies this year, so I'm very under and
now I'm gonna be watching a bunch of ninety four things.
So I feel like, h this might be a low
watch year for me. We'll see what the second half
of the year brings.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well even in my list like right now,
like I know at some point we're gonna talk about
and you'll see sinners. But like even right now, with
the films that have come out, like I really just
have like Sinners in Mickey seventeen that are like high
at the rest of all like, oh, these are good
movies and there's some things I might fight for, but
I'm hoping the back half of the year that's gonna change.
Speaker 3: That's happened before.
Speaker 1: But esp sais, Yeah, it hasn't watched Nova Can yet,
but Traiders look super generic and heard the reception is
really good. Had one hundred percent ron to mails at
one point. Yeah, that's how I was. That's how I was, like,
I'll get to it. And now I was like, oh,
this is probably a movie that I will watch every
once in a while, like a good put on, have
a laugh movie. So yeah, highly surprised by that. And uh, yeah,
that's That's what I've been up to. So no TV shows.
I've been trying to figure. I think me and l
are gonna finally finish The Bear because the news never
heard June or yes, the rehearsal. Yeah, that's been awesome.
We check out side Quest. We talked a little bit
about that, but yeah, crazy, I love the show. I
can't wait to see where the next four episodes go.
But yeah, that's the only TV show I'm currently watching.
Like I said, start, we're gonna start The Bear again
because new seasons in June. We never finished even season two,
so we're gonna do that. So, okay, are you out
on the Bear? Because they know season three I think
you said was miss are you out? Are you going
to give it one more go?
Speaker 2: No, I haven't. I haven't really seen it at all.
It's just kind of been on in the background.
Speaker 1: Oh, I see right, watch it. Yes, yeah, well I've
just heard I'll talk today because everyone else, I felt
like the hype's gone, so but maybe if I watch
it all together.
Speaker 2: I thought it was done. That's what I was surprised
to hear this season coming out of it was over.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe let's take an a break and then we'll
get into a Patreon topic and then some questions so
or some.
Speaker 3: Topics that will be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back. So we've already talked about a few
times coming up here. But Mike had a great question.
I have some other Discord responses as well too, but
it's something that I was thinking about, like whether it's
a bread and butter whatnot. But he asked both Mickey
seventeen and Sinners are two big twenty twenty five virtual
movies made by beloved directors featuring bold genre concepts. Yet
Mickey seventeen failed to really grab the audience attention to
the box office, where these Sinners is performing very well,
holding strong from week to week. What are the factors
that cause these different outcomes for people? That don't know
if you're you know, I won't say living on a rock,
but if you just don't follow this stuff, and hopefully
you just if you just choose us as your news source,
we appreciate it. Sinners had like a four point three
percent drop from second week. I can't remember where it is.
It's either the best hold or one of the best.
It is for like a Radar film, like there's I
should have got the list. There's just like multiple records,
especially it's in the rated R sphere. That's breaking a
lot of those records because that's a lot harder. But yeah,
had a four point three percent drop is crazy. Now,
of course it's like made like forty nine million week
one and forty four million, so it's not like an
endgame where you make three hundred million then obviosly the
drops for the massive, but still that holds a lot
of retention and even this weekend it's projected as like
thirty five million, So that's another really good hold. That
had something like a really great hole on Easter two,
which people were wondering because you know, it's the Jesus
holiday and it's called Sinners. So but I have like
a bump in money and stuff. So it's doing killer.
Speaker 2: Be Atheists showed up big Yeah.
Speaker 1: Ryan Coogler, we're coming out, you were with you. But
uh yeah. So it could be routing out anywhere from
like three hundred million, which is pretty good for a
ninety million budgeted film like Original, but still that's a
big budget film for an original IP lots of those
stuff we've talked. It's like, oh, that's like a twenty
to forty, maybe fifty, but ninety. So obviously it's a thing.
Speaker 2: That ninety is that you know, excluding marketing as we
usually it is.
Speaker 1: So so if you were to double it, let's say
they went that be one hundred and eighty, So if
it's projected to finish around three hundred, that's still like
a really good haul. Where it's funny, we've talked about
this a few times, Mickey seventeen centers are both from
Warner Bros. Right, And there's that whole thing of like
the current heads right now where you're kind of like, well,
let's see how this year does and you're kind of
hot water.
Speaker 2: But so you know, so there's money. You know, it's
not saving the company or anything, but it's for Coogler, it's.
Speaker 1: Great, Yeah, especially in company. But the one thing at
least for them that they're hoping is you got Superman
in two months and then Minecraft was also Warner Brothers Moo,
which that.
Speaker 2: Was okay, well there you go there. Yeah, so they're
leaving on beds of money now, yeah, which is.
Speaker 1: Pretty good because they're going into a contract year for
twenty twenty six, so it will be interesting how that
plays out. But yeah, what do you think is the
different here between Obviously, like Mike said, both you know
pair like God Bunge and Hole like praised in a
different way. But you know one mini ascers Parasites Hell,
it's such high regard Austin Ryan Coogler with his MCU
track record and creating all this other stuff, both different concepts.
What do you take from this as far as Sinners
having these record breaking ones where Mickey seventeen was a
money loser unfortunately, even though we liked the film a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that there are some similarities
we can look at between the movies, but I don't
know if there's really a lot of like comparison points
that are truly meaningful between them. I think we can,
like individually look at why Sinners is doing really well
and why Mickey seventeen didn't do so great for Sinners.
I'm more curious to get your take on that. But
I was looking into specifically Mickey seventeen a little bit,
and so one of the things that was kind of
surprising to me between these and I have a million tabs,
so excuse me if it takes me a bit to
get between these things. But like, okay, on this on
Box Office Mojo, you know, I'm trusting trusting the site
with my life. Here when it says domestic, it just
means the US, or does mean North America in general
North America. Okay, So Mickey seventeen forty six million, Parasite
fifty three million, so like almost identical really between like
Parasite and Mickey seventeen. But where the movie fell off
a lot more was in that international market, and that
actually makes a lot of sense. And I was specifically
looking like down to the region and like the two
regions one that you know is very not surprising at all,
South Korea. Mickey seventeen overall made twenty million, whereas Parasite
did seventy one million. So like fifty one million difference
just in Korea. Yeah, but that makes a lot of
sense because Parasite was like a Korean movie and Mickey
seventeen like isn't really like it has a Korean director,
but then everything else about it is like a very
American movie, even down to like the humor of it
and like the style and like the setting and all
these things. And then the other big one was I
think it was Japan that I was looking at, where
paras Site did forty three million in Japan, Mickey seventeen
did one million in Japan. So I don't know what
like a comparison point if you can typically look at like, oh,
Korean movies are really popular in Japan, but like that
is a one forty thirdly of the amount of money
that that region made, and so just between those two
regions alone, like that is a huge amount of the
box office difference rate then and there. And then if
you look at like other regions like on like France,
you know, it was like, oh, there was like five
six million difference between these two movies. So I honestly
I'm looking at that, I'm like, wow, really, this is
I guess less surprising. Now maybe you'd expect that there is, like, Okay,
the momentum from Parasite being such a huge movie Best
Picture winner put Bong junh on the map in a
bigger way, like maybe a lot more people would be
excited for his next movie. But it seems like he
kind of took that excitement and like transferred it to
just like a new market, and like maybe the hype
you've been building up in the market of like South
Korea and like Asia and stuff just kind of well,
he wasn't really serving those markets anymore, so they didn't
show up. But then you know, if we're looking that
way and it's like, oh, he transferred the focus to
like North America, well, then like that you know didn't
pan out either because like people didn't show up in
that way. And then of course the most damning thing
of this all is that, like Mickey seventy, he was
a way bigger budget than Parasite did. And so that's
like where in terms of like the success of the movie,
that's gonna be a huge difference.
Speaker 1: That's what Because I was curious with Parisite, I looked
as a one point four million dollar budget, which is
like that's like like once they got the twenty thirty
million penny in the film, yeah yeah, where they end
up making two hundred and sixty two million, So he
just used that money to move over. And I think
that's the thing where it's UH and I can't remember.
I'll read two CONTs because I think someone else brought
up and I'll go to that point. But Espub said Parasite,
despite being very claimed, a lot of people actually haven't
seen it, as compared to telling someone in the new
movie from the Black Panther director. And then I also
think that showing Michael B. Jordan shooting guns at some
vampires and trailer easier to sell than Robert Passing and McClone.
And then Clay said, I also think repeat business is
legit here because Sinners is so different exciting to be Mickey, Well,
it was a shitty rehass of snow beer.
Speaker 3: That's that's which Clay.
Speaker 1: I saw your lists on letter box. There's no like
I know Clay did not like it, but the fact
that it's like low, like it's it's his last rank
movie on UH for the year, like his blow like cap.
Speaker 3: That's four, Like to me that that's some crazy stuff.
Speaker 1: Let's see and he says, none of my friends ever
suggested seeing the movie twice.
Speaker 3: They're not movie people ever.
Speaker 1: Tonight we saw Venda Sypthem, and my best friends suggested
we should see Sinners again. And I think that's one
thing where what s Bubb said at the first point,
that that's where it's like we've talked about many times,
like like our discord, our listeners, people on Twitter, Facebook,
anyone that listens to film podcasts, like we are just
in a bubble. And I know, like even Parasite is
this super clayon movie.
Speaker 3: But I should ask people.
Speaker 1: Like my parents, and I don't think they've seen Parasite, right.
I think my mom maybe might have because I think.
Speaker 2: When I don't know, I feel like it's almost different
because like that generation is like more into like the Oscars.
Maybe this is of course the generalization more to the Oscars,
and they see Parasite getting all this type, they want
to go see it. Another interesting status looking to hear
what do you think the opening was domestically for Parasite?
Speaker 1: Oh, domestically probably like like nine hundred thousand or something
like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, didn't given me even crack a million, three hundred,
three hundred thousand and then it ended up fifty three million,
So obviously that was one that like picked up steam.
I think that was the case for me as well.
Like I went and saw it in theaters. I don't
even know when, like around the Oscars time, which I
don't even know when the movie came out, but like
they put it back in theaters for a bit, like
around when it was Game, which why.
Speaker 1: My mom might have saw it, which you're right, because
lots of time, like when Anora won Best Picture she's like, Okay,
I'm gonna watch that where I can't remember oh, and.
Speaker 3: She had asked about the substance. I said, yeah, I
don't watch that.
Speaker 1: That one's not for you.
Speaker 3: But she might have.
Speaker 1: But that's where if it wasn't for the Oscars, I
don't know if she would have. And that's where there
is like tons of people that have probably never seen
it because it's just tons of people. It's like if
it's black and white or subtitled right away, that's like, okay,
I'm not watching that right And I think, like not
exactly the Aspo's point, but there's a different point. I
was gonna say, like Michael B. Jordan and the shoe vampires.
Like that's true. Like the movie is being sold like, yeah,
it's raw passing clones, it's about dying. But you can
also see there's a political slant to it. Now Sinners
covers a lot to do with like ownership and freedom,
and there is a movie about ray similar to Black Panther.
But I think on the surface, like a lot of
the marketing has just been like, it's a vampire movie.
I think people have seen it and then be like, oh,
there's more to it, But the marketing has just been hey,
it's a very well made vampire movie. The way I
described it on the review was it's like the first
it's like you're watching an Academy Award Oscar movie and
then all of a sudden, vampires are in this. You're like, oh,
this is this is kind of crazy. But I also think, like,
not that it's a big deal because big stars are
all the time, but if you were to ask, I
just feel if you go to the general audience person
they have to see a movie, let's say, know nothing
about it, don't know the description, whatever, and you say,
I got a ticket to Robert Pass the movie, I
gotta ticket to Michael B.
Speaker 3: Jordan movie.
Speaker 1: I think people pick the Michael B. Jordan ticket, you know,
like and again, I don't think like a movie star
is a real thing nowaday, but I think that is
something where like other than Batman, Passon's not pulled stuff
for like Michael B. Jordan, Sure, Black Panthers, Marvel, but
Creed he's been holding that down. He's done this, Like
Michael B. Jordan has like a little resume now multiple
movies that he has led and have been big hits.
Where I know someone's gonna throw Twilight at me, but
if Passon was in there or not, it would have
been a hit, you know, like if if Henry Cavill
got that role, like he was the runner up, it
still would have been a massive thing. I don't put
Pattison's the reason Twilight it.
Speaker 3: Has done well.
Speaker 1: And we'll see because Patterson has a movie was Ada
coming out next year and Jennifer Lawrence, so maybe I'll
be proven wrong, maybe those will hit really well.
Speaker 3: But I think that helps too, is I think Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan is just a bit more of a mainstream like
an action star in a sense, you know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's that's a I hadn't really
thought about him in that way before, but like, you're
totally right, and he's like all over movie posters when
you really think about it. But I was gonna ask, like, you,
what do you think about Coogler in that in that dynamic,
because I feel like to that same point, it's like, Okay,
people would have seen Black Panther regardless of who. Obviously
it's parting for that movie that it was like a
black director or whatnot. But like, h I don't know
if people could even tell you who the director of
the Black Panther movies are, right, because I feel like
a lot of people when it come they don't go
to a Marvel movie for the director. Usually there might
be like the odd case there, And it's like that's
where like context is so important, where you could look
at Sinners compared to Black Panther one and two and
be like, wow, Coogler's movie's bombing compared to what he
did last time. But obviously that's like on whole different scales,
different budgets and like all these different things. And this
is of course original, which is really meaningful and powerful too.
But yeah, I mean, I how much do you think
the name Coogler is like getting people to the box
office right now, or getting people rather to the theater,
not to the box office.
Speaker 1: I don't think it is right now. I think it's
kind of like what s pupsaid. I agree it's.
Speaker 3: The from the director of Black Panther.
Speaker 1: If it's the Black Panther director, I think in five
years from now, more people I do think Coogler is
going to establish it was to be similar to like
a nol And Tarantino type, like I you know, I'm
not trying to toot my own horn, but I said
on Black Panther review, like this guy I did not
care about Rocky. He made me care about Rocky. And
for me, I still think Black Panthers the best MCU movie.
And then this is a fantastic movie. I gave it
a perfect score. If you haven't listen to interview, so
listen to that. So for me, I think he will
in a few years be quite established where Ryan Coogler
is the name. But I still think right now it
is just the director of Black Panther. And I think
a lot of people did love that movie. But I
also think that specifically, like the black community did love
that movie, and it felt representational. And I remember because
Tata said the same thing about Sinners when we saw
Black Panther. I remember probably twenty percent of the audience
was white and the rest was not, and Tato said
the same thing when he saw Sinners in Atlanta was
the same thing. And for me, that's the thing where
I think.
Speaker 2: You know, very important in Colona specifically, which is not
a super diverse place, especially there's not a lot of
black people there in general, So that's like that was
that was super notable. I remember that theater experience being
like this is really cool to see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, where Atlanta definitely more skewed. So that's where I
think he's established a good base of I think people
know he tells for the most part, even if it's
like riddled and my creed isn't exactly that, but like
he's kind of similar to Jordan Peel, where they're definitely
telling stories that are in the vein or about the
lifestyle of being a black person, right, And I feel
like they almost instantly want to go and support and
I don't think there's anything wrong with that, but I
just think because Black Panther was such a landmark moment,
it's like oh that and again, like you said, even
that even Black Panther Wikanda Forever, if you compare Sinners
to that, wakandaf Forever's a nine hundred million dollar movie.
This interest is that three hundred. It's great, but that's
like a massive like space between right. It's not everybody
that sees Black Panther goes out to be like, oh,
I'm gonna go support Ryan Coogle or whatever he does.
But I think he just has a few more than
like you know, Bong Joho or like even Peel like
I remember, Nope, like ended up performing. Like I think
it's his lowest one, which to me is unfortunate because
that's his best one. Like I think that's where Google
is gonna have some more people because he brought a
lot of you know, fantasy lie for people with Black Panther, Right,
And that's a good thing. Like Marvel gave him that opportunity.
It's not just him, but he delivered on it, right,
because if he would have made Black Panther shit, then
he would have been the guy that screwed up Black Panther,
and that would have been that would have been really
bad for him.
Speaker 3: Then he wouldn't be having this Sinner's run.
Speaker 1: So I think right now it's not his name, but
it's the or around his name of like from the
because now too he'll have from the director of Black
Panther and Sinners when you can always have another one there,
Like whenever no one's directing a movie, it's always like
Dark Knight, Inception Interstella. It's like, oh man, there's like
ten movies here that are like saying Tarantina, right, but
now he has creed Black Panther series and Sinners because
he did say he's gonna go and finish Black Panther three,
and it sounds like he's going right back to Warren
Brothers after. So I think, and I, you know, Black
Panther three, who knows what they're gonna do there. I
trust that it's gonna, you know, at least be a
good movie.
Speaker 3: So I'm excited to see that.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, and again yeah, the overall, I think
it's just it does It's it is an easier concept
to sell even though I'm the person. You got nos
Fratu in this on the person last year said vampires
were dead. But to me, it's very different when we
got nos Forrato and Centers these are vampire movies that
are like made with very like hard thought and lots
of you know, not that sounds maybe bad because I
think every movie people put care into, but this just
feels like the extra mile, right, I'll just say they
feel prestige. That's what it is. They're prestige vampire movies
versus I feel like the past few years we've gone
a lot of schlock, and that's where it's like, oh,
vampires are coming back. It's like, I think it's just
I don't think it's that. I think it's just you
had Robert Eggers and Ryan Coogler are two very like
stylized rectors versus you know, just kind of Joe off
the block who just wants to make a slash or
like something like that nick Age one last year that
came out. That's like, okay, nick Age is playing Dragla.
That's the gimmick. But that was all that was there, right, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder how Mickey seventeen would have done.
I was surprised at how sci fi that movie was.
We're in spaceships were flying around, there's you know, colonizing planets,
like I didn't expect that. I knew that it was
sci fi because there's like cloning and things like and
there's a weird machine that Robert Patterson's popping out of
and all this stuff. But I don't know, I didn't
feel like I really got that perspective from it, and
not nor do I feel like the poster really sells that.
And I don't know, maybe if they had dipped more in,
maybe that would be a little I mean, I don't know.
It is a big part of that movie, though, like
the sci fi stuff. I don't think it would be
like misleading people to sell some of that stuff more.
But I wonder if that would have brought a bigger
audience in, you know, people who are like into sci
fi stuff. And I think another comparison point that's interesting
between both of these and that's just maybe you can
look at this year so far and it's like, Okay,
there hasn't been a ton of like big blockbuster type
things coming out. I feel like both these movies kind
of had like a free runway to like crush it
for a few weeks, not a lot of super stiff competition,
and so obviously we can see like the difference between them.
We're sinners is like picking up steam, whereas Mickey seventeen
just like dropped off and then just like died like
almost immediately. So I don't know, I'm really curious to
see what this weekend's like, especially with a big Marvel
movie coming on, not a big Marvel movie, but a
Marvel movie coming out, which you know is usually like
a big box office, well is often a box office,
but maybe not even usually anymore. So we'll see like
what happens to the momentum of that. But yeah, I
think that just goes to show like maybe the quality
of the movie overall. I of course love Makeey seventeen.
We were generally positive on it here on our reviews,
but I think it has been like generally more mixed,
whereas centers like across the poor people love it and
then that word of mouth gets people to go and
see it, and I did. I was able to convince
my parents to go see Mickey seventeen, so I got
a couple of ticket sales there. But I think, like
I shouldn't have to like this bombs. You know, you
saw his last movie. You know, he's an exceptional director
with like really weird interesting writing, great cast, Like I
don't know. It shouldn't have had to be one of
those movies, but it wasn't even able to be that
just because of maybe it was a little more divisive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I do think it's like a small percentage.
But I said this with Kap as well, where I
don't think the previews were hitting you over the head.
But at least with Mickey seventeen, you felt like there's
still going to be like somewhat of a political skew,
Like even some of the stuff they showed with what's
his name there, Mark Ruffalo, where I feel like, again
this Sinner's trailer, there is a lot of stuff that
has to do with you know, race and slaves, but
that's not too overtly in the trailers. I feel like
they're not selling you on that. Where I feel like
I've said this before, I think a lot of political
stuff is a turnoff for people right away. I thought
that with Cap I thought that.
Speaker 2: Would make you Actually the last few months, people are exhausted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they anytime they see something about a
dictator shit and not saying that's because that's not a
bad thing to me. It's not like that because at
a time that's like someone making a piece of art
and trying to show you, like look, look what's happening
in front of your eyes, Like you know in the movie
when you know all the people don't understand what's going
on is happening right now, And that's also I don't
know what's happening with the and or numbers and or
is the same thingy Like that's that's like the Empire
is like a lot of stuff that's going on for
what's happening in our world right now where I could
see someone watching them being like I don't want even
though it's the Emperor, it's like I don't want to
deal with like a dictatorship storyline about people's votes taken
away or their freedom, like because people we have that
conversation all the time, and we have for the past
four or five years, and it's like people do want
to escape. So I think that's the tough thing where
it's a valiant effort to make this art right now
because you're trying to speak to people that maybe sometimes
if they see a piece of art might be like,
oh you know what, I finally get it, or I
see the writing on the wall now and you need
something like that to go, oh, that woke me up.
But at the same time, there will be some people go,
like I've said this before, like that you guys, you
and Taylor talked about a couple of weeks ago with
that editing trailer, and I've said this many times. The discord,
like the second I heard was about oh, it's a
small town during COVID. It's like I will watch it
because I already asked her about right away. I don't
want to do that because I just like, and I'm
completely being selfish because like I had it lucky.
Speaker 3: I lost no family members.
Speaker 1: If anyone got to say from COVID as a very
minor it was more just the two years of that
was very stressful, not even just life, while it's just
like just even Canada in general, we just that election.
Canada i'd say, has been like broken since then, because
like that was like it was like everyone gone on
two lines, and like people have almost stayed there since then. Right,
So it's like I don't really want to reminisce about
like that year or two that really kind of divided
us in.
Speaker 3: Such a bad way.
Speaker 1: It got so vitual, right like even with my work
when people lost their jobs because the wouln't take a vaccine.
That was like a that was not a good and
I was in office that time. That was not a
good time to be there. People were mad and pissed
and I had to hear like all these conversations with
bosses just saying like hey, I know it's off topic,
but like, hey, you gotta do this or you're gonna
get let go of this is not my decision as
a company. And whether it be people crying or people
pissed off, And that's like for me anything with COVID,
I do not want to go back there right now.
Maybe in ten years from now. Sure I'll take that movie.
Speaker 2: But I think I've been nostalgic for coding.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. But like the Good that's where I think
a lot of stuff with political stuff, people see that
right now and like and not I can take that
because I'm usually into politics, Like I watched on Steward
every or I guess it's the day that you like,
I watched that every week, Like I follow that stuff.
But I do understand if people are just beaten down
by it, especially if you're on one side.
Speaker 3: He's like, I just wanna see the Vampire movie.
Speaker 1: Now, again, the Vampire movie has political stuff in there,
but it's not previewed like that.
Speaker 3: It's previewed as Michael B.
Speaker 1: Jordan looking jacked with a Tommy gun taking it and
Haley signed looking fine.
Speaker 2: You know, Robert Pattison Vampire movie successful, Mimby Jordan Vampire
movie successful, Denominator bomb home.
Speaker 1: That's what he needs to do. He needs to get
Rob Passon back in the vampire realm. But uh, yeah,
I know it's interesting. It's great that it's it's doing well,
and I'm happy for it and hopefully that happens again.
But again, there's dozens of original films that are great
that also bomb. Right. We talked about the few weeks ago,
I Cameramber the topic, but there's tons of movies that
come out that people don't talk about that. But I
don't know, make a couple of million of the box
office and you never hear about them again, you know,
lost this amount of money and then it's over. So
mm hmm. But thank you buy for the question because
it was a It's a good thing to talk about
there and detail says. He says he's doing X files next. Yeah,
cooler did say he's doing X Files, I don't like
I think he's gonna direct some episodes and be involved.
I don't think he'll be doing I don't think he'll
be writing every episode and evolved in every episode. If
he is, I think it's gonna be like a mini
like six to eight episodes. I know it sounds bad,
but like that's what I think. But yeah, And I
don't think he's really talked about much like he's. It
sounds like he's like for sure doing Black Panther three,
because there's always that chance of like, oh, could he be,
like I don't want to do that, But I think
it's kind of I feel like he is a big
Nolan fanboy and he respects Nolan.
Speaker 3: I think he sees Nolan's career.
Speaker 1: And Nolan did the same thing where he went after
Dark Knight and made inception that was huge for him,
and then he finished off Rises and then he never
touched superhero stuff again. I think Googler will be the same.
Like all these people that are like, oh, James Gunn's
gotta talk to him for something DC, which is a
good transition. It's like, No, I don't think that's the case.
I think he's gonna finish off Black Panther three. I
think there's some sentiment there, and those people did help
make his career and he's really tied with that cast.
I think he's gonna do that, and then I don't
think you'll see him do a single IP thing ever again.
Like Nolan, Nolan said, no, I'm not doing superheroes. I'm
not doing this like he wants to do his own stuff.
I think that's gonna be Coogler from now on. But
I guess I'm wrong because that's x files, is that
x Files is a IP So maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: I just be more in the uh, the feature film round.
Speaker 1: But maybe I'm wrong there. Maybe there's some remake that
he wants to, you know, maybe he wants to I
don't know, remake the Blob. I don't know, but sure,
well anything else on this.
Speaker 2: I guess, Well, you got a couple of discord opinions
on this to you want to bring up him? I
said that, Oh okay.
Speaker 1: I said that in the in the before I talked.
So we're good there. I cover I cover them all,
you know. Don't gotta go about Clay shit more on Parasite,
you know, Mie ore make He's seventeen. Clay geez hot
takes there, but you know that's what I love Clay for.
So uh And Clay also was one person that said
he was very excited for this film, but maybe he
not gonna see it. So it came out today. This
is like a kind of evolving story. We're gonna see
what happens with it. But Sergeant Rock is a DC
film that they've been planning to make. Oh, I gotta
find out there was the plots and offices that came out.
I'll find it after when you're talking. But so this
film was supposed to be shooting this summer, but now
it depends who you asked. There's and these are all
as tier scoopers. Some say, hey, this thing's canceled, and
then some people say no, this has just been pushed
to twenty twenty six, but obviously a big push because
it was supposed to be shooting in just a few months. Here.
This was directed by Luca Guardanino. Today it was revealed
that we heard this rumor before, but Colin Farrell was
cast in it. Mike Fast was also faster faced. How
do you ever say that guy's name from Challengers f
face I think faced, yeah, okay. And then David Johnson,
who was in that alien Romulus, who's you know seen.
I think he's a Golden Geeks winner. Actually so, I
think he went for supporting, right.
Speaker 2: I think we sounds right.
Speaker 1: I think that that sounds right. But yeah, so that
was the cast. But there's a mix of reports here
where it's unclear why the project has been shut down.
All the insiders said it could be due to scheduling
out conflicts, needs to be shooting outdoors. The insider said
the project was going not going away, but could be
reassessed in the year for the possible summer shoot in
twenty twenty six, which to me, I love that to
me even sound shady of, like, well, they could shoot
in twenty twenty six, but they're gonna reassess it at
the end of the year. It's like, well, are you
shooting next year? Are you reassessing if you're gonna shoot
next year? That's already like rocky terms. And then someone
said another source raised the possibility that guan Nino has
been untested in action movies, and even though the budget
was a seventy million range, that's a paltry Some for
comic movies, higher ups of way or have wavered in
their confident confidence in him, which is true, like challengers
call me by your name, some other stuff like queer,
like he's not directed anything of that. Elk and I
will try and find but it's something to do with
like they're looking for some spear that killed Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3: It was a really weird whoa.
Speaker 1: I'll find it here, but obviously Dylan. We start in
an era where Okay, James Gunn announces slate, some stuff
in that slate's either been like TVD or it's kind
of been delayed, and then this movie, which I will
give them credit. James Gunn and DC have never ever
officially announced. They've never thrown on a slate, never thrown
a date, but they've talked about it. Because Elit and
Scoopers have got in their casting and stuff, they like
to not do official announcements till they're rolling and in production.
But this looks like a movie that I don't know,
it depends who you ask. I just am reading the
teal is that I don't know if this is gonna happen,
but maybe it just depends on Superman and maybe if
Superman's a massive hit. Yeah, you hit the roll decks going.
But what do you take from this is, you know,
we came from an era where DC had a lot
of Heyday, Now it's something, Oh it's canceled and now
I don't know, I guess they were back in that
dark times. But it's definitely reminiscent of when we started
Geek first and what was happening with Geek with d C,
and that was kind of hope that wasn't gonna happen
with James Gunn's DC, right, that's maybe gonna be a
bit more of a tight ship.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean that's I don't want to repeat
myself too much, broken record and all that, but that's
kind of my repeating thing is like, so much of
the DCU right now feels like vaporware until we see
more of this stuff, and I obviously the Superman movie
is gonna be a big testing ground for that. But
even then, it's like, Okay, if even if Superman does well, yes,
there's more money in WB's pockets, James Gunn's pockets, like
able to work on these next things. But it's like
the success of Superman does not mean that this movie
is going to be successful.
Speaker 1: Or the super successful. A great DC universe does not make,
you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there's so many of these random freak show
characters that like know, the general audience doesn't know about
and aren't just like you know, if you put Batman
or Superman on poster, no matter what, that's gonna make
some money, whereas that's not the case for a lot
of these other characters.
Speaker 1: Like Sargeant Rock, Coaster Gold.
Speaker 2: And Sergeant Rock and the Authority and things like this.
So I don't know, well, but I do think a
lot of it right now is gonna you know, they're
so close to Superman point if things are up in
the air, and like, I feel like the focus should
be one hundred percent of making that movie perfect. I'm
sure James Gunn's attention is like one hundred percent zooming
and scoping on that. He's probably not spending any time
to think about Sergeant Rock right now. So that's probably
big what reason why you're reassessed And then a Superman
comes out, it's out for a few months, He's probably
still focused on that, promoting that, doing interviews, and like,
you know, that takes a few months, and I don't
know by like okay, by the end of the year,
makes time makes sense for him to be like, Okay,
let's reassess this now. Maybe he's just so thrilled with
directing that movie he wants to direct something else and
he's just passionate about another thing and this then Sergeant
Rock gets kicked down the ropes. Now he really wants
to do boost her role and you just never know,
like I don't. I feel like he kind of just
gotta zone in on focus right now. And who knows
how much money they're being given with the saved wa
we mentioned minecraft huge ye, an other thing is kind
of bombing, So it's it's it's tricky, it's always shifting.
Speaker 1: Here was the official plot of the movie. The film
would have falled. Sergeant Rock is team trying to find
the Spear of Destiny, the spear used to stab Jesus
showing his crucifixion before the Nazis could find it, which
you know what, like that sounds very Indiana Jones like,
and that's right up my alley. Yeah, obviously this is
radar and would be like a bit more out there.
But I was like, oh I because at first I
was like I don't know if I need this hearing
that plums like, Okay, that sounds fun and wacky, but
I'm I'm of two minds of like both ways right,
because I'm of a mind of.
Speaker 3: That is a good thing about I think.
Speaker 1: What James Gunn is doing with his universe so far
that he said this before, like, hey, if script's not ready,
we're not gonna shoot. Like we still hear rumors just
currently from Scoopers of like the Avengers see our doomsday
script is like not even done and they're starting to
film because they're still locking down deals. Now Iron Man
was the same thing. Their script wasn't done they started shooting.
But I like that approach of guns saying, hey, if
this is ready to go, let's just like before we
get on the wagon, let's make sure all the wheels
can at least work right, because you don't want a
solo situation where it's like you pivot halfway through or
you change just so Like, I like that idea and
the same thing, it's like he has said that of
course he wants us to be connected, but he doesn't
want it to feel like homework. We'll see what happens,
but that is the benefit where he goes, hey, let's
say Sergeant Rock literally is just a one off. You
could be a DC fan or non watch it. That's
a good kind of relief, Like, yeah, just to lay
it if they feel like, let's say this is a
legitimate they all have agreed, we're gonna make this movie,
but it's just not working with schedules, with the set.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this slate does not have to shift at all
with that. Yeah, you can just drop that anywhere you
want on the timeline.
Speaker 1: And like you said, this isn't a Superman Batman where
it's not. That's why whatever it may be with like Abus,
there's been a lot more rumors about Matt Reeves and
like certain health things and stuff. But that's where that
movie gets so much traction because that's Batman. Right in
a couple of months, there's not gonna be this fever
of Man. Where is Sergeant Rock? Why have they not updated?
It's like, okay, cool, they're making that. So that's like
the pro side of me of hey, this means not
whatever reason it's not working, let's just kick it and
we'll come back to it next year and if it works, great,
And that that to me is fantastic. The bad side
is like, yeah, is it? Just is it? Is it?
They have this whole idea and it's like, you know what,
we this was a bad idea. Let's not actually do
this movie now. I still think that's a good idea
to pull the ripcord before you start production. But they
still paid people to write those scripts. They still paid
Luca to you know, like for meetings everything. They still
talk to talent. And that's where it's like, is that
a DC Studio saying where they're feeling unconfident?
Speaker 3: Is that a Warbo sing?
Speaker 1: It's like the same thing right that report of oh
some sort of said they were unconfident about Luca directing
the size of a movie. Who is that? Is that
Gun and his team or is that Warner Brothers, Because
then if it's Warner Brothers, that's a bigger problem because
one if James Gun's all gung ho, no pun intended
on this. But the Warner Brothers higher ups is like,
you know what, we know you're the president of DC Studios,
but we'd really like you not to make this movie. Actually,
like we're not calling. And that's where it's like, well,
then you're not even DC studios. At that point, you're
just like the same as before, where like entitle, yeah,
I run DC, but not really if you have like
whoever it is, fucking Zaslov or somebody being like, no,
don't make this movie.
Speaker 3: So that's where it's like that.
Speaker 2: If you don't have Zaslov feeding you budget, what are
you gonna do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly right. So there's everything. There's like pros and
cons with it and I and the same thing too.
The pro of hey, seventy million, that's great for a
superhero project. That's like, I respect that he's trying to
do something different, get someone like Luca's very talented. And
if that was a predicted budget of seventy that's great,
much more success rate possible. But like you just talked about,
and I just thought about Mickey seventeen that had a
you know, high budget for Bong gen Hole. But if
you were to compare to comic movies a lower budget
and that you know, was considered like it lost some money. Right,
So to me, even at seventy million, I might be
able to look you in the face and like, like
I would hate to have to sign with David Zaslov forever,
but I could be like, I don't know if Sergeant
Rock is the play here, because I think the comic
genre is already uh iff enough. I know people would say, oh,
they might market it as not a comic movie. I
just like, what's the last war movie that was like
a huge box office blow up? You know, and even Anya.
Speaker 2: Jones Jones definitely did not fulfill that Oh.
Speaker 1: My god, I'm something something happened my throat. But as
what I mean of like that, it's a great idea
to go, Okay, we're gonna keep this low budget, but
even at seventy million, it could be a flat for them, right,
So it has it has. It's always been a weird
one for me. I Like I said, I like that plot,
but I just I'm also got it's not too much
into war movies, but this sounded less like a war movie.
Speaker 3: So we'll see. But to me, if it's you.
Speaker 1: Know, a GV guy in my head, I've won of
the lotteries it's gonna happen. If I were to pizza
about this, I don't think this movie happens. I think
this is even if Superman's a hit, can I feel
like then so might argument argue of why are we
gonna make a Sergeant Rock movie, Like I'd rather just
put that seventy million towards Superman two or whatever the
next Batman and or whoever the next Wonder Woman is,
you know, Like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that like if he is
supposed to be like a one off character, and yeah,
maybe it starts out that way and then once you've
introduced him, maybe then he crosses over with someone. But
like you probably want to focus early on on like
the brands that people associate with DC and are gonna
rise that like stock in DC and the interest there
and even not even if it's like crossover stuff, but
just like the people that like I would not we've
we've talked about this movie a lot, like a couple
months from I'll probably forget that Sergeant Rock is a
DC thing at all, right, because it just like even
that plot you gave me does not sound like DC whatsoever.
So I feel like their money is better spent right now,
like really reinforcing that strong foundation instead of doing like
the weird stuff like do that later on when you're
established and you have like a steady, uh stream of cash,
like that seems like a little bit risky to do
that so early on, and I know there's other things
coming out before then and now, but I think it's
a great idea to kick that down the road a
little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even then in these reports it was it
came out that clay Face is like still on track
to shoot as now of course, right, but like as
right now it's on track to shoot October first, that
that's start date, and that's what it's like. I still
know how I feel about like clay Face movie. But
if you're sitting down and be like, hey, we're gonna
make clay Face same thing, lower budget, it's gonna be
a horror film, which I think has a better strike zone.
Sounds like it's gonna be similar to the Substance in
the sense of like it's a bad comparison because the
clay Face story from the Batman handmade series is literally
the substance for the Substance, but just that idea to
pitch it to people. And then even then it's a
Batman adjacent character, right, you can use Gotham, you can
use a bat signal or Sergeant Rock like pew so yeah,
like like Sergeant Rock, of course you could. It's like
maybe something DC related, but but with something with clay face,
Like I feel like that's your your better bet, right,
and uh, you know what we'll see. Like I said,
it's I'm so curious for both Marvel and DC. I'm
so curious on Fantastic Four and I'm so curious on
Superman because I think both the company's trajectory change a
lot after those two movies, better or worse. Because even
if they got Avengers coming out from Marvel, it's like
if F four underperforms, that I feel like is a
blow because I feel like they're looking at it. It's like, oh,
this is a big temple for us the next decade, right,
and if it comes out it's like very lackluster money wise,
same thing as Superman. If this is the kick off
of the universe and it's lackluster, it's like, well, what
do we do from here?
Speaker 2: Don't forget Creature Command though, I mean you can come on,
that's kicking off the universe.
Speaker 1: I never finished it, so I always so yeah, it's
not bad. I just didn't. I wasn't gripped. I was
likely with Flea bag it was it wasn't. It wasn't
gripped me to come back I will.
Speaker 2: Think it though, maybe you'll come back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, season two though, yeah four all breaks crazy, I'll.
Speaker 3: Finish for Superman.
Speaker 1: And hey, Sergey Rock, he was in that Creature Commando,
soy they yeah, like I think they Yeah, they were trying.
I think they planned too, and maybe they still planned
to again. Maybe maybe this is all just a car
before the horror situation. Superman comes out kills it and
they're like, yeah, go make your Sergeant Rock movie, like
you're You're good to go, Like all Takes is one
in and maybe hiss as Off is like, yeah, James Gunna,
I trust you with whatever you want to do, and
until you have a massive bomb, the floor is yours.
So and I hope because I like this stuff, even
if I don't love Superman, I would like it to
be successful because I I don't want another decade of
DC just on their ass be and memes.
Speaker 3: You know, I can grow with this stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's just like wrestling or sports, Like if DC
is good or killing it, that'll have to make Marvel
be good and kill it because if it's just a
monopoly and oh Marvel's the top brand, very easy for
them to phone it in and not make good choices, right,
But if you get to a situation where you start
to have people talk, oh yeah, DC's the new king
of the block. I think that motivates people like Figy
and everybody like, hey, we gotta you know, we gotta
change that narrative a little bit, like what do we
what we got cooking? You know, let's let George Miller
do that Thor movie. You know.
Speaker 2: So do you do you think what we will ever
get live action? Justice League versus Avengers ever? Yea, like
Marvel DC, Like Marvel and DC both in the dumps
numbers garbage. Yes, they hit that red button crossover.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Bill, I don't know if you and
I are alive for it, but I think it happens.
Speaker 2: Oh really Okay, Yeah, I think I'm alive for it,
you hope.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Yeah, I'm the clock tonight.
Speaker 2: Definitely not Yah, Taylor, He'll be alive and well drinking
that rack water, that Sergeant rock water.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But no, I think will happen.
Speaker 1: I've always pitched that if that's what will happen is
when the superhero genre is like dead dead and they
try to revialize, what can they do, well.
Speaker 3: Let's get together.
Speaker 1: Because it's happened before, like Sony, Like I know it's
for a Marvel ip, but still Sony and Disney had
to sit down and work together share a character, right,
Like it's the same situation. You guys sit down and
work together and share characters and share money and what whatnot.
And you know, kem Fight and James Gunn. That could
be the chance. But I think I think that's.
Speaker 2: I feel like we should bread and butter that Like
what would that look like?
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'd be down. That'd be a good time.
Maybe July be good bred But because F four and
Superman coming out, so we can kind of time it
with the hype of those two movies. But I think
at least minimum thirty years though, that's what.
Speaker 2: I think that I could see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because you gotta because you gotta help.
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing. If Superman does bad, I do
think there is a universe where either Warner brother selles
DC or unfortunately it's like a video game thing where
they start to rent out these characters to multiple studios.
And if the DC universe never works, because then the
mainstream just won't even care about Justice League that won't
mean anything to him because they never had any.
Speaker 2: Batman go like public domain soon or something weird like that.
Speaker 1: Just the first year of issues, just the first So
there's certain things you can do and can't do. Like
you can't even use the Alfred character because he wasn't
around in there. Technically Batman in the.
Speaker 2: Face, you could do a character named Wilfred who has
a similar role.
Speaker 1: You could. And just because I've been looking into it
for no particular reason studying it, you Batman set in
New York in the first two years. It's not even Gotham,
so you can't say Gotham. So there's certain things you
can and can't do. Same thing as like the first
year it's in public domain, you can't use Joker, but
in the second year you can use Joker because he.
Speaker 2: Goes on the best villain from year one.
Speaker 1: Oh it's tough. I have extensive notes for like I said,
no reason whatsoever, but hang on, I.
Speaker 2: Go Sergeant Rock is our best villain.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, Uh no, there's someone named doctor Death,
so very.
Speaker 2: That sounds good. I'm let's do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some other people too. Oh man, I was
trying to find the surprise.
Speaker 2: James Gunn hasn't. I assume he has already you know,
implemented a character that's one of these OG's. I feel
like he's that kind of guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well maybe won't give a public domain so he's like, oh,
anybody can use this one now, you know.
Speaker 2: So, oh, it just doesn't make a Batman movie ever.
Speaker 1: Again, Yeah, we're done. Yeah, but again it's it's very
limited the stuff they can. Like there's some sort of
like Bigfoot creature, So.
Speaker 2: Can you even use like the batmobile and thing? Is
that like part of the original.
Speaker 1: Uh it's just a car.
Speaker 2: Okay, sounds really bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited for uh the movies though that people
that fans make.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's some fun stuff to still still do that.
You have the cautumely same thing. It's only a specific
sort of the costume there, but uh, you know, I
digress not.
Speaker 2: Black and yellow. He's like, you know, purple and green
or something weird, like he used the original Joker colors.
Speaker 1: He's he's like he's like blue, black and gray and
then sometimes he's had the purple gloves, which I'm a
big fan of.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I like the purple gloves.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, I'm a big fan of sometimes trailers. Well, actually,
let's take an ad break and then we have all
these trailers, last topics. I'll be right back a right,
So now we're back. Okay, So we got just three here,
just a trifecta. We got smashing Machine, Fear Street, Prong, Queen,
and then weapons, but the full trailer weapons. So I know, Dan,
you probably saw weapons, like, oh, come on, Like I
was talked about this last week, which trav was doing
to me, but this was the full trailer, which has
been it's interesting what they're doing. I'm not I guess
we'll start with weapons. It's like they did sendheim a
con and that's where they got a lot of hype.
And then it's like the first week was just those
viral videos right of like cam footage, and then the
second week was okay, teaser trailer, and now this third
week is like full trailer. I'm not saying every week
we're gonna get like longer long the trailers, but like they.
Speaker 2: Are trick longer longer until the movie just releases, like they.
Speaker 1: Just dropped the movie online.
Speaker 3: They don't even you know, but like.
Speaker 1: Before we continue, so says the disrespect to the Goat franchise,
Now you see me before we go back to weapons.
I so, at one point when this was Dylan and
Kirkland host that, I said, hey, you know, have you
guys seen this? Should I put in the notes? They
both said no, they haven't. And then So and Kirkland
you know Sette's and mind Grain but who knows what
he's doing. And then so Dylan messaged me, He's like, oh,
you want to put in now you see me? And
I'm like, I've also not seen now you see me?
So s Bub's next week Weekly Geek is me and
Taylor Field. We will talk about He's a big fan
of that. I said to Dylan, I like a lot
of that cast. I've just never had any interest in
watching those, like from the Trailers everything. I have never
been like, oh, I want to with the time I have,
I want to watch it. I'm not saying I never will,
but I've never It's never called to me. Why have
you not watched one yet? Dylan?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I feel like I should because I
was a huge Chris Angel freak back in the day,
and so I feel like magic Magic's flowing through me.
Magic's flowing through my veins, so I should be it.
And once again, the cast, you know, really great. I
don't know why I have never seen it, Like it's
one of those things, you know, if someone joined the
patron at the correct tier and requested us to watch Niimi,
I would be thrilled with that. That would be fantastic,
That'd be a great pick. Yeah, I don't know. I'd
like to see these movies eventually, and I will at
some point. There's there's two. This is the third one.
Is that correct? There's two of them? Now, third one.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, they've been doing a fourth one.
Speaker 2: Well, hell yeah, that's that's beautiful stuff. So I will. Well,
now I suppose says it's kind of like fast and Furious,
and I'm less interested, to be honest, but well, that's what.
Speaker 1: I heard, too, is that I heard the first like
everyone praised the first one. My problem was why I
jumped off a little bit, was like of the idea
of watching the people described the second one as the.
Speaker 3: First Okay, I don't know how to phrase first one.
Speaker 1: Obviously they're doing heists and they're using magic, but it
sounded like the first one one was more realistic, where
the second one sound like how they do this is like, oh,
it's almost basically real magic, and it's like and it's
not like.
Speaker 2: Really, I've watched a video a YouTube video essay on
that subject, even though I haven't seen the movie, So
I feel like I've spoiled myself a little bit on Okay,
what's going on here? And I just video by Lego
Vader go check.
Speaker 1: It out, okay, And I just didn't like that pitch
of Oh, it kind of gets way more unbelievable.
Speaker 3: And I'm something that is a fast and furious fan.
Speaker 1: But that's even got to the point of me where
I don't enjoy those really much at all anymore, because
they got they went too far to the bramer.
Speaker 2: There's a perfect line, so you can't jump that shark.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But anyways, Warner Brothers not again.
Speaker 1: We talked about Warren Brothers with these movies weapons, Warner
Brothers movie not wanting to jump that shark with weapons.
The rumor because this movie I think was originally for
the Fall or something or even early next year. I
think it was maybe even rumored to be January two,
twenty six. But the rumor is this thing is like
tested very well, and to me, I can tell that
because the marketing they're giving it WB like they believe.
I think in this movie they look at this as
like a hit, and to me, I think s Pubs
did say in our discord this trail all this stuff,
because I've actually not talked about weapons other than I
think the CinemaCon of like the plot of the kids
go missing at the same time, same.
Speaker 2: Weapon you've talked about is the spear that killed Jesus
Christ exactly.
Speaker 1: And I don't think this is in there, but who knows.
Let's apparently a full screen pay or the early versions
out there. I've seen some people posting I think I've
heard about that too. I'm going to stay away from
that because I don't like to read this screenplay before
maybe after, but so I knew the plots and opsis.
But for me, I've loved everything they've done with this trailer.
What I was saying a spub send the discord a
couple of days ago because I wasn't gonna watch the trailer,
but now I'm on this cast, so.
Speaker 3: I did it.
Speaker 1: Does it definitely like is there is a connection to
the same marketing that long legs have like I'm trying
to find the best way, but that idea of like,
to me, it's a great pitch and the imagery this sounds,
especially in the last three seconds as trail there, they're
throwing you a bunch of wild stuff. We're like, what
is going on? And I'll find some quotes out for
you talking about like what the director said where he's like, oh,
the plaw of the movie, that's not even the most
wild stuff that happens in this. I'm like, okay, and
I think Craiger is I think this is gonna hit
and he's gonna really establish himself as like a name,
not Coogler level, because there don't levels, because he doesn't
have a billion dollar hit. But I mean, like in
the horror community, he's doing resident evil necks and that
gets me excited. But I've loved every the viral marketing.
To me, A Taylor mentioned when you get stuff with
the teaser, it's not the running, it's the hell they're
running with their fucking arms out bent that way. It's
just something. To me. What I love is it's taking
something that should just if you saw kids run like
that at the beach. Oh, he's playing, but you put
it in a black and white cam video like dash cam.
Speaker 3: It's fucking that's weird.
Speaker 1: Like if you were to say, hey, your nephew and
missing this last thing of footage we had and he's
running like this, it'd be like, what the fuck is
going on? And this trail I thought was outstanding. I'm
someone that I really liked long Legs. Obviously the third
act was took them for a while, right, and I've
liked as war going on, so maybe this is gonna
be that. With him saying it does get more wild.
But even already, I feel like this is a supernatural
movie where long Legs, I feel like that was up
for debate until you go on the movie.
Speaker 3: This feel like, Okay, a bunch of kids go missing.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's just some guy going around kidnapping
them from their homes. It feels like something's up, but
it and this trailer I was getting, not the rock
hills like the Goosebumps. I this is my most antispay
movie now that's left on the year, so I cannot
wait for weapons. This trailer I thought was fantastic. Like
I said, I think it's gonna be a big hit too.
It reminds me of Long Legs, where Long Legs had
very good marketing and just had buzz and people are
gonna see this, and I think this is a it's
an easy gimmick to pitch like mainstream people of like
a movie. Oh, all these kids go missing the same night, same.
Speaker 3: Class, what happened? It's like a good like what is
that mystery?
Speaker 1: You know? Like Long Legs had that too, of like
all these people being killed, same date every month. This
guy's in the demonic stuff. How do we get them?
Speaker 3: And it's stay cage right, So.
Speaker 2: Yeah, remind me the release date on this bad boy here.
Speaker 1: I think it's like August fifth, it's early August, right, yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I so I've I think I missed those
uh like cam footage, found footage, marketing beats and so.
But I saw a hype in the discord and I
was like, huh, where's this hype coming from? Then me
and Taylor talked about the the teaser. I think it
was last week or the week before, and I was like, Okay,
I'm out. I don't get it yet. Where's where's the
hype level for this? Other than like the director of
course and it's finally with this trailer where like I
get it because this is obviously a little more all
encopassing of what this movie actually is. And yeah, it
looks it looks outstanding, It looks fantastic. I think the
as you mentioned, like just the visuals of like the
cinematography is what really stands out to me here. Just
so many interesting camera angles. That one shot of like
just all the kids like flying out the windows, running
through the windows to chase her down, like just looks fantastic.
And I feel like the main actress, Julia Gardner.
Speaker 1: Julie no Gardner, Yeah, she's phenomenal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I think I've seen her a couple of things,
but I feel like this just the premise of this movie,
and like her class being the one that had all
these kids disappear, and then she's going into the classroom
and they're all there and like zombie like all these
things and when she could be dream single's could be real.
Speaker 1: Who knows.
Speaker 2: This is the kind of movie where I'm just like, Wow,
she is already, Like I can guarantee she's gonna be
like in that top five nominee like Goldend of the Year.
It's it's one of those movies that just like this
is an opportunity to just like eat as an actor.
And I'm like excited to see her able to fulfill
back because I've heard the hype for her but don't
necessarily have it yet myself. And I feel like this
is gonna be the one that puts her on the
map for me. So really really excited for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like this last year I saw wolf Man.
Speaker 3: I like that enough, and she was I really liked
her in that.
Speaker 1: But I've been a fan of her since she was
like fourteenth thirteen. She was on a spy she that
I love, called the Americans and she was like a mission.
Was like she's the daughter of some politician. They have
to just kind of turn her into like a Russian spy,
and oh my gosh, she's so good that I've never watched.
It's on the list that showed you some Bateman and
Laura Lenny. It's a drug show. It's on Netflix.
Speaker 2: Is that the one was ark?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the one that's always been my list because
she's like a main actress in that too. Yeah you
could pull there, So yeah, thank you for showing her
out because I kind of forgot and because I heard
she was in it and she was the teacher. But
I wasn't like, oh, is that just she's the teacher
and our main character is gonna be like the grizzled
detective or even Josh Brolin, right, I was like, Oh,
he's the dad looking for his son. Is he the
main character? He looks perfectly cast as like the where's
my kids? And who is this? And everything? So and
that some of the quotes here. Zach Gregor said that
the full cast is being kept on wraps. That's very exciting.
I don't know what that means. I'm not expecting what.
Speaker 2: That's a little Justin Long effect. I feel like in
the Barbarian.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not like spect like Tom Cruise to pop
up in the thing or anything like that.
Speaker 2: But Justin Long shows up again, I'd be thrilled.
Speaker 1: I hope. So Justin Long was gray and Barbarian. But yeah,
so the Mystery Kids is not the whole movie. There's
way crazier shit than that. And he described it as
a whore epic, which I tell him be careful because
I feel like you don't want to build it up
too much. But like, yeah, just there's two things I
wanted to screen share here for you, but then also
I'll describe them. But because you didn't see where was that?
I got too many tabs open here? I'm like you, yeah,
you really are? What the Why can't I find it anywhere?
Speaker 2: I had like eight Box Office Mojo tabs open and
it was just a mess.
Speaker 1: Why can't I find it anywhere?
Speaker 3: This is very frustrating.
Speaker 2: Just like the kids, they've fled the classroom here they did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're running around with their their arms. Where is
it all right?
Speaker 1: Maybe I won't be able to I just like it's like,
I don't understand. Maybe I'll do this over here. It's
just like stream I just I completely it's it's in
the same tab I shared that thing earlier, and now
it's not working here.
Speaker 3: I think I might know.
Speaker 1: Okay, I will bring it up maybe in a second here. Sorry,
I thought there was something else I could Uh god,
damn it. Come on, just work over here. It's just
I'm so funny. It should just be an easy click here.
Come on, No, it's just clicks.
Speaker 2: Let's do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Am I gonna have to do the
entire screen? No, I'm not gonna do that, so all right,
I maybe we'll come back to you in a second
and I'll try and figure out this mystery, but we'll
stay in the whole realm. Fear shrieked, right. Yeah, it's
Fear Street prom Queen coming out just under a month here,
May twenty third, obviously was a big play for them
a couple of years ago. At that trilogy they released here,
new cast, new story, still happening in shady whatever, Shady
High or whatnot. But yeah see here, yeah sayland. Also
it'sund like you're not happy about maybe the change of
the old you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I was pretty undwhelmed by this trailer.
I think it's gonna be like a skip for me
or just waiting to see what people see or see
what people say in the discord because I like that trilogy.
I think it was unique and interesting, but also it was,
you know, pretty by the numbers for like what that
genre is. And so I guess I shouldn't be too
surprised that this is kind of just like, oh, it's
a it's a horror slasher prom getting like you know,
something you've seen a lot of times. So we'll see
what the deviations are or how it mixes it up.
But more so I'd be like, I would just wait
for people to see it and then let me know
if it's worth seeing because it looked a little little
generic for my liking. Unfortunately, So I don't know. I'm
I'm like even the cast thing like, I didn't know
any of those people really like in the movie before
seeing it, and then I became a fan of them
from it. So it could be the same thing here.
I don't know a lot of these actors in this,
but you know, maybe it'll be like they'll show up
some good performances and then I'll be excited about them.
But yeah, I don't know. I just just didn't really
have the sauce for me. It was lacking, lacking that
juice that we look for in these trailers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have to look it up because there were
people I recognized. I thought it was a good cast.
I swear yeah, Ariana green Blots and that she's the
girl that played.
Speaker 2: Like she's the Jack Quaid of Yes of actresses.
Speaker 1: She's like young Ahsoka, young Camorah Gosh, yeah, Barb something like, yeah,
like Lily Taylor's in here, Katherine Watson, who I'm a
big fan of Chris Glenn from the American Pie series.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I was wanting to be more excited for
this because I like the Fear Shriek trilogy a lot,
especially that first one. To me, that's my favorite. That
one's like a I gave that like a ten to
ten because that means to me, it was like a
perfect combination of what I've said before is like, obviously
are all sun right season. I always wanted like Goosebumps
to redone but be more adult kind of just the
way we've talked about with Oh God, like with X
ninety seven, where sure kids can watch it, but it
definitely felt like, hey, we're gonna make this for the
people that aged up with the show. I've always wanted
someone to do that with Goosebumps, and we don't that
we just got very mediocre stuff on Disney Plus or
with Jack Black. You know, I'm just I'm just over
it that that's what I want. I want to do
what's happening to a Predator? What's happening to a predator?
An alien?
Speaker 3: I want to do that for Ghosts, but or Goosebumps.
Speaker 1: I want to get in there and just like, Okay,
let's start the shit over and get down on nitty gritty.
But that's what I loved about that first really, especially
the first movie. I agree with you, this looked more generic,
but I'm gonna hope that because I liked those ones
a lot. It's a similar genre, just done a bit
better than maybe some of the schlock we usually get.
Just like, oh, here's a regular horror movie. It's like, Okay,
that's fine. Like I said, I like some of the
cast here, apparently because I never read the Fear Street stuff.
I was a goosebumps kid. The first I think trilogy
was kind of like an amalgamation of like taking ideas
from those books, where this is like an actual like
sounds like it's gonna be adaptation of one of those books.
So that's why it makes sense that all of those
characters aren't back. But then at the same time, I'm
kind of like, well, I liked that cast a lot, right,
so I wish there was a way to try to
work them in here, even if they weren't the main characters,
like and then the victim was the new main character,
so especially too, because I'm I, yeah, the trilogy ended
on like a cliffhanger, so it's like, Okay, we're sitting
up for more ventures. So I wish there was a way.
I know there's probably some people like Sadie Sink, you're
not gonna get her back, and she's fucking like and
she's getting nominated for Oscars and she's in Spiderman suit,
so it's like, okay some people, But the rest of
the people, it's like, oh, I like this cast.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you could find a way.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm I'm excited because I like that franchise,
but this trilogy didn't get me like, oh man, I
can't wait.
Speaker 3: But it's still a day when watch me.
Speaker 1: I really like those last ones, and hopefully this is
good and it can kind of keep it up because
I think it's a good series, and I do think,
like I'm wondering how successful this will because I thought
the gimmick of the last trilogy was great of hey,
every week you're getting a new movie, you're getting three,
and it felt like a very fun, just kind of marathon, like,
oh this week I get to see like what's happening
with the Fear Street peel right, where this is just
like a one off. So to me, it's just a
one off. It has to be a good, a really
good horror movies. I'm hoping that's it, but I aggress.
And I also don't know why they're releasing this thing
in May. I don't know why this thing's not in October.
Like again, the last trilogy was in summer. But I
kind of got that at gimmick of like one a week,
I thought that was people's selling point of Oh, this
is lots of fun where in May? And it feels
like just a weird like, why is Netflix not throwing
this October? Maybe because Stranger Things is coming out? Maybe
that's it.
Speaker 2: They come on the summer though the trilogy it did.
Speaker 1: Yeah it did, But I just thought because that gimmick of.
Speaker 2: The three camp that helped.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that helped.
Speaker 2: So does problem happened in May? Is that? Is that? Why?
Speaker 3: Jesus you too tonight? Fuck you said that?
Speaker 1: Emily said the exact same time, does problem happen and
at May? And then you mentioned Flea Bag while she's
watching Flea Bag in the other room. You guys are
some paticos this day today, but that's why. So there
you go. But at the same time, does that matter
when it's a horror movie. Like I'm just saying, in
a multiverse where it's prom Night, prom Queen comes out
in October and comes out in May, I still think
in October it's probably do better numbers since people are
in a horror mood.
Speaker 2: Where right now, I mean you just go watch it?
You can just wait watch it then? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah you could? Or do you forget about it though? Right?
Do you just other stuff comes out?
Speaker 2: We Oh yeah, they shovel everything out and they bring
in the new batch of weekly hits.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like sense Like obviously I'm not gonna talk
about because me and Tary were talking about couple weeksgo,
like Electric State, that Russ Brothers movie. But like when
that movie came out, most expensive movie in Netflix history,
I did go in my search bar and find it.
That thing should be classical for everybody. It should be like, hey,
the first thing you log in, watch Electric State, and
if you don't want to, then scroll down. But I
had to go search for Electric State to watch it.
Speaker 3: So that's that's the thing.
Speaker 1: With Netflix, even release window. Oh yeah, well you don't
to watch.
Speaker 2: Electric State the most sought after movie on Netflix. Yeah,
people were searching it intros.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they'll ask me, do you want to watch
you It's like, no, I just watched this, but uh
I digress. Okay, So I found a way two things
I just wanted to bring up here. Of back to Weapons,
the one we're way more excited for. So this was
one that, uh, this is that footage. They had multiple
stuff like look, how good that stuff is? Just a
cam like that's fucked up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of those like doorbell cam kind of quality things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they did a bunch of those. But the
other thing I was going to bring up with people
just some of the imagery that was happening in this
trailer and you touched upon it, but like, here you go,
I'll do a full screen here. This is where it
reminds me of Long Legs, where there's just multi text
the red text for sure, but there's just multiple stuff
in here where it's.
Speaker 3: Like, what's this tar? Why is this lady?
Speaker 2: Like the tar stood out to me for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and even remember in Long Legs there was that way.
It just ended up being a small moment of the film,
but that one part of the lady like recutting her
C section scar and that reminds me of this lady
stabbing herself with the fork with the in the face,
was like why is she doing this?
Speaker 3: And same thing. That's that's why I think Long Legs
this seven common.
Speaker 1: They have a good set up and then multiple images
of like how is this happening?
Speaker 3: Why is this happening?
Speaker 1: You know, like even look at fucking Benwong down there
not looking good in that left.
Speaker 3: No, and who's that in the right frame there?
Speaker 1: That's definitely to me that is a fucking actor that
we don't know who it is yet in my opinion,
that's my told you, like look at the wig, the
big glasses makeup. That feels like we need to hide
this person, like it feels like fucking actually could It
looks a little but you know what I mean, like
with off so you can still tell Long Legs is
Nicholas Cage. But they tried their best to be like,
let's make them over And that's what I think. That
person in the bottom right corner for people that aren't listening,
it looks like it's someone with an orange like a
very like Pippi Longstocking wig. They have like old school
old lady glasses from the eighties. Yeah, exactly, So something's
happening here and got some Dutch angles.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I can't wait. It's gonna be a fun time.
Speaker 1: So I wait for weapons and then finally I can't wait? Wait?
Can we not wait? The final Boss? Dwayne Johnson The
Rock dip in You talk about Safty, you know, dip
in his fingers and his toes and his biceps in
A twenty four and Safty Obviously there's been lots of
hubbub about this one because the Rock in general, there's
always hubbub, but the Rock is all like honestly, he's
never done anything like this before. His career has kind
of become a meme wise movie wise, right, and Benny Saftie.
He is a great director, great writer, great actor as
well too. But like for me, Uncut Gems is one
of the best film that came out in this decade. Right,
it wasn't last time, Okay, it was? Yeah, that to
me is a top tenor for this decade. He got
to me, him and his brother got the best performance
at Adam Sandler.
Speaker 3: So there's lots of good ingredients here.
Speaker 1: But is is it?
Speaker 3: Is it something?
Speaker 1: Is it something you want to taste and actually put
in your mouth.
Speaker 2: This is not gonna go in my mouth. I mean
maybe it will eventually, but I would so I was
really disappointing this trailer. And I think I think my
hype for it was like what you told, like the
spark notes you gave me essentially, which is like Benny SAFTI, Yeah,
the Rock and an eight, well not necessarily the rock,
but the rock being in an a twenty fourth thing
directed by Benny directed, written by Benny Saffie Like that
seems like a match made in heaven for something weird
and interesting, And the trailer was anything but that. It
was like, oh, here we go with a really by
the numbers, like you know, sports drama. You know I've
seen I saw iron Claw like and I liked iron
Claw And while I watch Iron Claw again directed by
Benny SAFTI sure, but like I guess I just did
I want something a little more flavorful from him as
a director. And you know, I think A twenty four
is one of those studios that that meant something when
it was, you know, a twenty four movie, and I
feel like that has drifted away a little bit because
I feel like they rather than having like a specific
style or type of movie or type of thing that
they do. Now, it's kind of just like they have
a lot of money and it seems like they can
just fund all sorts of things, and so you're getting
me movies that are less in that a twenty four realm,
which is totally fine. I think it's good for them
to broaden their whatever that word is not the agenda,
their their portfolio, broaden their portfolio.
Speaker 1: It reports that last year, right remember they were bidding
to try and get Halloween and that was like, oh,
they're they're trying to go even something like Civil War
a bit bigger, Like, yeah.
Speaker 3: They're they're making moves right now.
Speaker 1: They're stranding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're they're i mean destranting, Like to me, fits
that a twenty four vibe, even if it is a
video game. Things has been different. But this, to me,
I don't know, it doesn't have that a twenty four
sauce to it, and it's really lacking any sauce at all.
And like, okay, like the Rock doing a dramatic role,
like that's interesting, but I'm not really a fan of
the Rock, so I'm not like, oh, I really need
to see him like actually acting, you know, for once
in a while. But uh, I don't know. I just
I don't think there's much else to say for me. Unfortunately,
it just to it's fine. I'm totally good, but I'm
just not excited for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's gonna I think, bar minimum, it's
gonna be good. I think I think Rock is looking
really good, and I think he does have something to
like prove a little bit because everyone in the world
just says, hey, Batista's the best wrestler actor, and it's
just kind of been deciding. I think he's like, you know,
I I want to do that, you know, And I
I think there are other reason why it looks a
little safer, which sounds weird, is I think sad. I
think Rock and Saffy are both trying to do like
they're going for Oscar plays here, and that's where it's like.
I think Uncut Gems for some reason. God, I actually
don't know why, because I was gonna say too weird,
But then the past few years we had parasite, We
had everything everywhere at once. I don't know what it was,
because Uncut Gems was like praised by everybody like it
had all the and but even then you brought Claw
that was the same thing that was a twenty four.
Speaker 2: Movies GS on Netflix movie though, like it could it
even be eligible theater run?
Speaker 1: No, it did. It was had a theater run. Yeah,
they put it in the theater for two weeks in
certain markets and stuff. But yeah, I I think that's
what they're going for. I think this looks like a
movie that I'm going to really because I like character pieces.
I liked Diane Carlo, I love the Wrestler, and that's
what reminds me of not just because Dwayne Rock Johnson,
So I think I'm gonna really enjoy it.
Speaker 3: I think Dwayne Johnson looked great.
Speaker 1: I do think there'll be some paint by numbers, but
I think what they're looking for is safter you get
a best directing or i'll say best writing, and I
think they're looking for a rock to get best acting,
which I think he could. That's the thing where I
think it depends the performance. But if he blows people
away and I even like his voice, to me, it's
like it's enough of the Rock, but it's still a
changeup that I think is smart and it kind of
makes him sound like a little I won't say losory,
but in a way, he's definitely just more doing a
steroid type of effected voice, which I think is a
smart I think that's what happens with this guy, is
he gets very addicted to the steroids and whatnot. So
and I don't really know the story because I'm not
like a massive UFC guy, So no, I'm I really
liked the trailer. It didn't blow it didn't blow me away.
Speaker 3: But I was happy to see that.
Speaker 1: I think The Rock actually looks good in it, which
I didn't know one hundred percent. There's a different of
being like wanting to be an a twenty four actor
and being an a twenty four actor, right, And I
honestly did not know if The Rock had this. Now.
I know it sounds stupid, but we talked about this
last year when he came back to wrestling. I legitimately
was the best acting of his career, this whole Final
Boss character, like he he found something there. And I
speak for the gimmick boys. I want this movie to
do very well, and I want him to win an
Oscar so he'll not come back to wrestling because he's
been doing some really bad, shady stuff lately messing up
a lot of storylines, and I want him to stay
away for a couple of years, you know, just do
some acting stuff. So I this is a this is
a day one theater one for me, I will have
to see this because it's a definitely my genre. Like
I said, I like character pieces. It hits similar wrestler
type of vibes. But even then, what I was gonna
say before we move on, is I'm you brought byron Claw.
That was the same thing as Gem's universal praise. Everyone
talked about man Zach Efron best performs his career that
got zero love at the Academy Awards. They just bypassed it, right.
I think it's a little bit different because it's the raw,
and I think people will take notice because it's him
doing something like this for the first time. But I
don't know if it's on cut gemsaw sports movie. They
are sports in it, but I don't know if it's
a sports movie. Like I don't know. There's certain movies
to me, Like I said, on Cut Gems that should
have been a surefire like nomination everywhere, and it really wasn't.
And for me, like, who knows what this will be,
but I guess I see your point of view. It's
not anything two A twenty four crazy, and it doesn't
look anything like Betting Saffy Wise, like the Curse, or
like even on cut Gems that was more wild. Like
I think this will be pretty safe, but a very
well made, very well acted movie. Emily Blunt, she's always great.
Hopefully there's just a harden there that I can find
and like you know, and I think the makeup on
the rock looks really good too. You can see it's him,
But I still think there's enough where no.
Speaker 2: A good point. I think he does fade into this character,
which is which is telling because he I feel like
he normally is like trying to be as himself as
possible because he's, in my opinion, big egoed individual, right,
and so I feel like he's trying to be himself
in a way and I feel like he's not doing
that here, which is cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I will answer because Dylanie, you have no
context on this to end the episode, because Hunter.
Speaker 2: I read this comment and it could be another language
for all I know, he's.
Speaker 1: Or they say, what is your thoughts on people believe
my time to shy? Hello, on the fake leak about
super Shit from the Superman movie. I could talk people
if you want this could be a fake rumor, if
you want no spoilers for super Man. This is like
very minor thing if it was real, skip ahead and
I could talk to those. Dylan, because he's likely not
seeing Superman or at least day one name, then I
don't think he's gonna care about this. There is a
rumor going on, which I understand why it could be
because obviously there's lots of screens. There's a rumor going
around that there's a subplot or a scene or something
where on social media there's a hashtag whatever they use,
whether I'm sure it's not gonna be Twitter, but whatever
they use Metropolis that there's a hashtag trending during the
movie called super Shit. And but what happens is they
reveal that it's Lex LuSE. He's walk with me now
he has a bunch of mutative monkeys that are similar
to plan the apes, and they cut to apparently it's like, oh,
people really hate Superman. This thing's trending. But the reveal
is that Lex Luthor just has a bunch of mutated
monkeys that are on a computer just tweeting away, tweeting away,
tweeting away, just like it's it's a fabricated haralic a controversy,
like the hate for Superman online is not real, So
it's like a bunch of bots and everything like that.
I like, I could believe this for two reasons. One,
that's not something that does not happen today with people
just like having a bunch of burners or hate campaigns.
How many things like for the Marvels. Do you see, like, oh,
look at all this hate for this movie and it's
like twenty tweets and it's like the exact same wording
quotation everything. It's like, Okay, clearly there's just some people
that have agenda here. And I think it's a little
bit of a thing on what happened with James Gunn
was some tweets found about him and everyone jumped on
his case and he lost his job for a little bit, right,
So I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility.
I know a lot of people have said if this
leak is real, that like it looked upon as like
a negative thing, like this sounds really cheesy and bad.
I'm withholding judgment if this is true to see intil
the movie, because on premise, I get why he would
do that doesn't sound the greatest, Like that doesn't sound
like I don't know. It's not anything where I'm like, oh,
this that that's something I want my Superman movie. But
it's also not some of them. I'm like, this is
gonna make or break the movie. But yes, this was
like a mini controversy this week.
Speaker 3: Uh, let's see.
Speaker 1: I remember James Gunn's say, if it does not come
from me, it's not true. Yeah, but that I can't
like James Gun's a studio head like that, Like this
is the same guy that also said like I can't
wait to work with Ben Affleck. In two weeks later,
Ben athletes like, yeah, I'm not working for James gun
in DC, Like I don't want to do any of that.
I think James Gunn even then he at one point
said I can't remember the exact paraphrase h but said yeah,
absolutely or not, I've never considered passing to be the Batman.
And then jump a year and half later, he's like, well, yeah,
I had, like we considered some things. So at the
end of the day, James Gunn is a director, but
you gotta remember this, he's now a studio head. They
don't get to be as truthful. And I'm not saying
James Gunn is a liar. I'm just saying that there
might be some things that he has to like skirt
around or just kind of say out there to be hyped.
So I don't think James gun is gonna go online
and start talking about the specifics of or not of
his movie right now. I think rumors and casting are
different because he can say, yeah, that's not true, I
didn't cast this guy's green arrow, or yeah that's not true.
But I don't know. And but again, it's just it's
just like leaks and stuff. Spos says, I feel like
it's real, But I also that it could be like
a one joke scene, and that's what I think it is.
I think it's a one joke scene. So that's why
it's like, I need to see the context if it's
some big fucking storyline where the whole time Superman's really
upset that social media's taken him down, and the reveals
it's a bunch of monkeys, like like trolls like Keah,
that's not good. But if it's just like a throwaway
one joke where it's like, oh, these people really hate me,
puts down the phone and smash cut to the family
got room with a bunch of monkeys, and let's being
like keep typing like either then me saying that that
sounds bad.
Speaker 3: That actually does not sound like a great scene.
Speaker 1: But I'm yeah to me, but that's like a okay
if I don't like it, that's like a point five
point two five mark down. That's not like, oh man,
that that took me down, Like I don't know, it's
just we'll see. But any thoughts on that, no, no thoughts,
But there you go. Hunter.
Speaker 3: That's that's my thoughts.
Speaker 1: I say, just just wait till you see the movie.
Because this is my last point is because uh, Kim.
A couple of weeks ago, I was on the box room.
We were talking about Colin traverro and his Superman or
his Star Wars nine script, and there's so many people
like go like, oh, it sounded.
Speaker 3: So much better.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter till it's produced and directed and acted edited.
Anything on paper can sound great or bad. It's all
about the execution, right. So that's why for me, I
can't This scene sounds like a alright, maybe lame joke
or fine joke. But until I see the movie, I
can't say like, oh, super shit, Like that's not gonna
get me not excited for the movie, you know, like
we have to wait and see. So I just say
stay I'm not gonna say stay off line, but just
don't worry about that stuff.
Speaker 2: Of the line.
Speaker 1: I'll say that, don't say and stay off line except
for the Geeks discord exactly. That's a good place to go.
So that's down below.
Speaker 3: We have done it.
Speaker 1: Don't be worried.
Speaker 3: Wouldn't have enough to talk about.
Speaker 1: But here we are nearly two hours.
Speaker 2: The plasma was flowing.
Speaker 1: Tonight, the plasma was flowing. Hopefully it is again for Thunderbolts.
We'll be talking about that tomorrow. Thank you very much
to everybody in the chat that's sending questions that listen
that watch. Promise when you hear from us next, which
will be tomorrow night, it will not be boring. Goodbye.
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