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medical director of Trinity Health and Wellness Medical Group, she

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is a dancer, a yoga instructor, a pilates instructor, and

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star of the Internets as well as television formerly if

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married to medicine, but also I would say an influencer.

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Doctor Noel Reid, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, thanks for having Yeah, happy to be here.

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Speaker 1: It's great to see you. I always say, you know

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you want your doctor to be healthier than you are.

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I mean that's how I feel well.

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Speaker 3: You want to practice what you preach, right, Yeah, hopefully

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you know you're doing the things that you're telling other

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Speaker 1: Well. And also, you know, not everybody and I know

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you won't. You won't talk smack about your fellow doctors

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because you're kind and positive, but not everybody even knows.

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and pain management and that kind of thing from a

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pharmaceutical perspective, and not as focus on the whole person.

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that I was most impressed with when I first met

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you is that your practice also has yoga and pilates,

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so you have ways of being successful and profitable without

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me having to be sick.

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treating disease once it shows up. But really, I think

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a better and more efficient approach is to prevent right.

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that disease starts ten twenty years before you start to

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have symptoms. Really, yeah, so to wait, you know, and

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start working behind the eight ball is not the way

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you know, some things we should start doing or stop doing.

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you I believe know that I'm working on my pilate's

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teacher certification.

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on an eight hundred hour comprehensive PLATES certification. So I

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had the vision of basically doing a fusion exercise what

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and classical plates in addition to vibration therapy and red

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light therapy. Why because it's working at multiple modalities, So

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we're working at the metabolic level, cellular level, mechanical level,

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mechanical because of the work that we're doing right, So

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spinal flexibility, balance, appropriateception, all of those things that we

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physical health and longevity. But in addition to that, we

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use vibrational plates which also help in improving muscle activation.

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also working at the cellular level and improving mitochondria function.

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therapy helps improve that in addition to collagen production helping

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our skin nervous system reset. So multiple levels that we're

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rehab injured dancers and athletes. And the focus is on

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body strengthening so that all movement, posture, balance stems from that.

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one a universal system.

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Speaker 1: So when you say the powerhouse, the core. You're talking

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Speaker 2: That is a marker of longevity.

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pillars of physical health, longevity is a powerhouse connection core strength,

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lower body strength, spinal flexibility, and balance. Those are things

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Speaker 1: Doctor Noel Reid, MD is here, and when we come forward,

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she's got five habits that can help you live longer

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and I imagine much better quality of life, which is

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my thing. I don't have to be here forever, but

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I want to feel good while I'm here. Five habits

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that you might want to get into, and why we'll

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get to that little well being for your Wednesday with

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doctor Noel Read. I'm Dominiqueafrima for KBLA Talk fifteen eighty.

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Doctor Noel Read is here and we're talking about your

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well being. Let's get it together. People. You talk about

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these four pillars of longevity and good health, and I'm

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sure they factor into the five habits. So let's break

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Speaker 3: So Number one, I would say the foundation is nutrition, right,

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have to adopt a that works best for you and

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your lifestyle and what your body needs are. Now, I

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weight loss and things of that nature. But that might

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eating at eight if you're doing an eight sixteen exactly right.

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they have to starve themselves when it comes to fascinating,

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it just means you stop eating earlier and you start

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eating later.

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Speaker 3: Right, Well it did, yes, So it's time eating, right,

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then when you stop. I would say the golden rule

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and so that would be at least three hours before

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bedtime when you start is up to you, right, but

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I would say if you're doing the eight to sixteen

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hour ratio, that's probably fine, but you may want to

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consider doing ten to fourteen or maybe even twelve to twelve,

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eating twelve fasting twelve, so you do allow for that

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appropriate amount of time to give your gut a rest.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny because I never thought I could do

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that because I have, you know, blood sugar issues. But

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I found that my body adjusted to it immediately and

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it was fine. And then my body seemed to be

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very angry with me when I decided to snack in

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the middle of the night because it wasn't used to

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it anymore. It was like, whoa, this is our rest time.

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Speaker 2: What are you doing exactly?

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Speaker 3: And you know what it actually with intermitted fasting, it

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helps to improve insulin sensitivity as well as lipid profiles

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or cholesterol, so it actually does help metabolically as well.

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So yeah, if you are someone who perhaps is pre

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diabetic or diabetic, it is doable.

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Speaker 2: You just have to do what will work best for you.

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Speaker 3: So again, maybe not doing those prolonged fasting ratios, but

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a ten to fourteen or twelve to twelve may work best.

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Speaker 1: When you say insulin sensitivity. That's for people who have

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pre diabetes, which would be you know, too much insulin

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or diabetes where they might not have enough insulin either

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either side of the spectrum.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and not producing enough insulin or the insulin is

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not functioning as it should, so they're not able to

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control their blood sugar as best possible.

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Speaker 1: Paul Is in the chat's saying, if you're eating in

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a smaller window, you can still overeat calories within that timeframe.

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Maybe it didn't. That didn't happen to me. When I'm

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intermittent fasting, if I'm only eating for six or eight hours,

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I found I could eat whatever I wanted as long

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as I didn't cheat.

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Speaker 3: And that's the thing is that with intermittent fasting is

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not so I don't believe in calorie counting, right that really, no,

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I don't count calories. I do pay attention to my macros, right,

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so carbs, protein, fat, but calories and if itself, I'm

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not counting, and I don't typically recommend or suggest to

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my patience to.

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Speaker 1: Do because we get obsessive.

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Speaker 3: I think it's obsessive, and it doesn't necessarily the number

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doesn't tell the whole story, right, because you could have

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a thousand calories of a healthy protein, or you can

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have a thousand calories of processed foods, and those things

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don't equate to each other. One is feeding and building

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the body, one is destroying the body, you know, So

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Speaker 1: All calories are not created equal.

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Speaker 2: All calories are not created equal.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and it typically is harder to overeat when you

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do have a finite window.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean I have a girlfriend. I haven't seen

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her in a while, but she was a close friend

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of mine and she restricted her calories. She was a stripper,

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so to be fair, she had to keep her body

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a certain way. But I mean her calorie restriction was

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I'll have a diet pepsi and fries. That's my whole

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daily nutrition because that adds up to as many calories

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as I'm going to eat. And I'm saying, but there's

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no nutritious value in that, right. You could eat ten

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pounds of kale and have the same amount of calories.

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So I think that I use that example to say

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all calories are not I can have twenty two salads

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and she had one pack of fries and a diet

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soda and we both ate the same amount.

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Speaker 3: Of calories, right, And she didn't get any building blocks.

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She was basically tearing down the body.

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Speaker 1: She looked great, but yeah, but she had she could

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do that.

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Speaker 3: For the next ninety years. I don't know how long

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you probably said that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it probably not, but just it's really meant to to,

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you know, illustrate your point that all calories are not

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so you don't count them. You do advocate intermittent fasting.

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I remember that, and we're staying on this. We got

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four more points to go through. But I think nutrition

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is probably where people get confused, and you know, have

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problems because when you eat bad and I know a

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lot because I love this stuff, you know, and I

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still I eat bad and then I have no energy

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and I'm depressed and I don't know why. And it's like, dude,

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you're living on French bread and you know, and cheese,

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and you don't know why you don't feel good. You

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have no nutritional value in whatever you just ate. But

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the great holistic doctor, doctor Paul Goss, was a big

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proponent of variety of foods. He said, if it was

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up to him, we would all try every plant in

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the world, because there may be some micronutrient that we

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need that we don't know about exactly.

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Speaker 3: You want your plate to look like a rainbow, you know,

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so many different colors and options and vary and variety.

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consistent with, because at the end of the day, it

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is consistency. I mean, it's it's great, you know if

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you feel like you can, you know, do this diet

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and restrict for you know, thirty to sixty days, but

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that's not going to sustain you for life. So you

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have to do what's really feasible, you know, what you

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can which you can do.

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Speaker 1: I gets you, Paul, He says, He's going to put

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a big thing in French fries in front of me

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and I'll eat them. But I don't do it every day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's okay you oh yes, oh yes, I

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love my cookies and my brownies and all those things.

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But you know it is an every now and then thing, right,

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So like on the weekend, a special occasion, you know,

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you're traveling things of that nature, but just not not every.

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Speaker 1: Day, not every day. So we've got four more principles

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for longevity, nutrition being one of them, and we'll get

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to all four of those after news, traffic, and sports.

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When it comes to nutrition, though, we just have a

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minute here, What is the biggest mistake most folks make?

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Speaker 3: I would say not getting a protein really yeah, I

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see that quite a bit, and especially with a lot

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of people being on gop one. So the weight loss

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medicines where we see a lot of muscle loss that occurs,

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and we're going to talk about that in the next segment.

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Speaker 1: We lose muscle, and we lose muscle as we grow

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more chronologically gifted, as we get more seasons, As we

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get more.

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Speaker 3: Season I mean essentially after thirty we start to decline

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in our muscle mass. If we're not proactive, we lose

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muscle at a rate of about four to eight percent

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per decade, and that compound if we're not proactive, and

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so protein I think is really important to minimize that

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and having a high protein diet if that's feasible for

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you your kidneys can handle, it is typically the way

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to go. And high protein diet means that essentially you

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are consuming aboutero point seven to one gram of protein

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per pound of ideal body weight. Okay, So that breaks

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down to on average about thirty to forty grams of

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protein per meal per.

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Speaker 2: Day for most adults.

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Speaker 3: And that is also what I typically will counsel my

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patients with, is getting more protein, especially as we age

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into each decade, because that's where we start to see

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the muscle loss occur.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Doctor Noel Reid, MD is our guest, and we'll

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continue the conversation habits for longevity when we come forward

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on KBLA Talk fifteen eighty Welcome back. Indeed, doctor Noel

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Reid is an actual doctor, not one of the many

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people that walks around calling themselves a doctor but has

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no degree in sight. She's actually a practitioner of family

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medicine and MD. But in combination, I'll say, also just

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a student of well being, you know, holistic and yoga

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and pilates, which you teach and practice. Yes, So when

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doctor Noel read says she's got five tips for longevity,

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it's not just you know, buy the book. And I

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think it's really important for folks to tap in and

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tune in because we're so quick to oh if I

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just buy this pill, oh if I just take this prescription,

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And it's really a bigger picture than that, isn't it.

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Speaker 3: There's no magic pillar potion for sure. At the end

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of the day, it always comes down to our behaviors.

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Our behaviors dictatur outcomes period and so we have to

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be consistent.

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Speaker 1: So we said nutrition, Yes, number one, we spent some

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time on that. What's number two?

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Speaker 2: So number two?

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Speaker 3: So this is something that I think oftentimes gets neglected.

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Speaker 2: Sleep. Oh boy, yes, let's talk.

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Speaker 1: I gotta leave, I'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about this, dominique. Yes, because I know this

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has been an issue for you in the past.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much since I started doing morning radio. Yes.

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Speaker 3: So sleep is so important, it is non negotiable. So

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you know, what the data is clear on is adequate sleep.

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If for adults who have consistent adequate sleep, that adds

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two to five years to your.

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Speaker 1: Life, two to five years to your life.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and many of us are not getting what we need.

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Speaker 3: And so for for most adults, adequate sleep would be

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seven to nine hours seven seven nine hours nightly. If

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you're sleeping less than six hours, you're sleep deprived. If

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you're sleeping more than nine hours, you're sleeping too long.

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So seven to nine hours is the money spot. Why

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is sleep important? It is our time for restoration. You know,

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when we reset, re recalibrate, re release, it affects all

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of our organ systems, so our cardiovascular health. When we

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are sleep deprived, that increases our risk for heart disease

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and stroke, can cause blood pressure rise, can make it

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more challenging to control blood pressure. So oftentimes, as I'm

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managing blood pressure for my patients and we're having to

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add on more agents, I ask them, how are you sleeping?

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Speaker 2: How much sleep do you get?

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Speaker 3: What is the quality of sleep, because that could be

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impacting the blood pressure and thus us need to add

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on more agents to control the blood pressure, which is

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not the goal. It impacts our brain health. You know,

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when we rest, that is the time for the brain

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to essentially remove waste from the brain. Waste that can

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lead to inflammation. Inflammation that can lead to dementia and

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cognitive decline. So you know, as a means of preventing

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the onset of dementia or cognitive decline, you gotta get

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your rest.

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Speaker 1: You know what I read I did read a study

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that said people over fifty who sleep less than six

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hours a night are thirty percent more likely to develop dementia,

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Alzheimer's disease, and that boy that got me. That got

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me because I just I've been talking too much smack

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for too long to not remember what I said. So

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I gotta, you know, just try to do better. Do

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naps help.

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Speaker 2: Naps can be helpful.

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Speaker 3: So it can help to work against your sleep debt

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because you do still to accumulate a sleep deck. But

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it's really good to have that prolonged period of time

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for rest. You know, within one session you can have

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the naps here and there, but not to take the

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place of a seven hour session. Right. Yeah, So you know,

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it's great that you're eating well and you're exercising and.

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Speaker 2: Doing all those things.

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Speaker 1: That's probably why I'm still alive.

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Speaker 3: But if you're not sleeping, that kind of erases all

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of that great work that you've done throughout the course

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of the day and also can inhibit you getting to

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your goal. So this is something else that I discussed

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with like my weight loss patients, How are you resting?

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chronically sleep deprived. That impacts of course, you know, our

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quartosol release impacts on metabolism and can make it more

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challenging to lose weight maintain weight in addition to causing

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belly fat distribution. So fat in the belly, both subcutaneous

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and visceral fat. So the fat that's deep to the belly, right,

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That increases our risk for heart disease and stroke. So

477
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the main point is you gotta get.

478
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Speaker 1: Your risk before we go too Point three quickly, Paul

479
00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:11,440
wants to know your thoughts on peptides. That's the new

480
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,119
trendy thing.

481
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,559
Speaker 3: I guess, yes, you know, I think that for those

482
00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:19,880
peptides that we have data on, I do agree with

483
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,839
and I use in my practice. So gop ones are peptides.

484
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,599
So the weight loss medicines that many are familiar with,

485
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,720
semaglue tide, turns, eppetide, rhettary tide. These are peptides, right,

486
00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:36,400
And we have decades of data on this particular peptide.

487
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,759
We don't on all, and so I do caution using

488
00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:43,920
peptides where there's not a whole lot of information in

489
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,119
terms of how it impacts humans, because there are many

490
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,599
that are out and available that maybe we have some

491
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,279
small animal studies, but not really showing what the impact

492
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is on humans.

493
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Speaker 2: But for for the g.

494
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Speaker 3: Op ones, I would say yes, I do use them

495
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,680
in my practice. I have a number of patients on

496
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gop ones and I find that they are tremendous in

497
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,839
terms of UH weight management, blood sugar control, but also

498
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:20,519
other things, those who perhaps have addictive behaviors, eating disorders

499
00:25:20,599 --> 00:25:25,960
or disordered eating, aiding with blood pressure control, and improving

500
00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:30,240
cholesterol panels. You know, it is thought that these medicines

501
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:34,119
helped to decrease inflammation in the body, which has impacts

502
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,279
on other disease conditions, and perhaps preventing the onset of

503
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,079
heart disease, cardiovascular disease, which one of them already has

504
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,319
the FDA you know approval for, but perhaps even preventing

505
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:50,799
other conditions that also are related to inflammation. Is inflammation

506
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,519
is a root cause of all disease, but perhaps UH

507
00:25:54,519 --> 00:25:58,440
slowing down cognitive decline in decreasing risk of dementia. So

508
00:25:58,519 --> 00:26:02,319
there's so many avenues and so many aspects and aids

509
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:05,680
that perhaps these particular peptides can be helpful with all.

510
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: Right, nutrition sleep number three number three resistance training is necessary.

511
00:26:14,079 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 3: You need to have this within your exercise regime. And

512
00:26:17,759 --> 00:26:21,839
why we talked about this earlier. We lose muscle. Muscle

513
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:26,880
is longevity. High muscle mass and grip strength are markers

514
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,599
of longevity.

515
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: Grip strength meaning how hard you can squeeze.

516
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:35,799
Speaker 3: Yes, And in terms of assessing someone's functional capacity or

517
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:40,680
potential functional decline, muscle mass is a major contributor. And

518
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,640
as I mentioned earlier, we lose muscle naturally, you know,

519
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,640
starting early in life thirties, you know this can occur

520
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,200
if you're on gop ones that can also speed up

521
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,960
the process of muscle loss. So resistance training is really

522
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,200
important to happening.

523
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: Mostly weights, So are you talking about bands? You're talking about.

524
00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:02,160
Speaker 3: So many different options. And here again I think is

525
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,079
a misconception is that it has to be heavy. So

526
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,079
it doesn't have to be heavy weight. But weights are helpful, right.

527
00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:11,920
Resistance spans doing resistance forms of exercise such as yoga

528
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,680
and pilates, all of those things can be helpful to

529
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:17,319
help us to hold on to our muscle. And I

530
00:27:17,319 --> 00:27:20,000
would recommend for adults to do at least two to

531
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,720
three times a week of some type of resistance training.

532
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,839
Muscle matters, right, so it aids us in our functional capacity,

533
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,400
our ability to be able to move. It impacts our balance, right,

534
00:27:31,519 --> 00:27:34,119
so we need to keep our balance and propriate reception

535
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,079
throughout the life span because a fall could take years

536
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:43,960
off of your life. It aids in hormonal balance. So again,

537
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:48,279
as we transition through perimenopause, menopause menopause as I like

538
00:27:48,319 --> 00:27:51,079
to call it, with men or andropause because they also

539
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,000
go through a transition. The more muscle mass that you

540
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:58,319
have and the training of the muscle helps to improve

541
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or rather allow for that transition to be a bit

542
00:28:02,519 --> 00:28:08,160
easier for you. It impacts our immune function, just so

543
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many things.

544
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: It's interesting too because when I read is that if

545
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,759
you fall and you have better muscle mass, you're more

546
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,000
likely to bounce back, less likely to break something. And

547
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,160
for a lot of seasoned Americans that fall can be

548
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,440
the start of a cycle of hospitalization that can be

549
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part of a decline.

550
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,759
Speaker 3: Exactly. It's the recovery. How can you recover? How can

551
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:32,799
you bounce back? And so again, you need to be

552
00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:35,559
able to have that functional capacity to be able to move.

553
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,519
Speaker 2: You know, we need to be able to move.

554
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,359
Speaker 3: Throughout the entire lifespan, and that adding years to our

555
00:28:41,359 --> 00:28:43,519
life is that ability to move.

556
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Speaker 1: I love the new study that came out that shows

557
00:28:46,119 --> 00:28:49,160
that people who have never lifted weights before that start

558
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,680
at age ninety still build muscle masks, meaning the body

559
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,119
retains its capacity to grow throughout the entire human life cycle.

560
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Speaker 3: That to me is so exciting that must and magical

561
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,000
are resilient and that's the beauty of it.

562
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Speaker 2: And so here again like it's never too late.

563
00:29:04,279 --> 00:29:06,039
Speaker 3: I literally so I don't know if you saw me

564
00:29:06,079 --> 00:29:09,160
post this, but I was in Chicago last week and.

565
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Speaker 2: I was visiting my family.

566
00:29:10,319 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 3: Oh I did see that, and I taught my mom

567
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,720
and my dad pilates and it was like their first

568
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,240
pilates class. They are eighty four and eighty six, and

569
00:29:19,279 --> 00:29:21,240
I got them on the floor. It was a little

570
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,799
hard to get them on the floor and get them back,

571
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,759
but they got down there and they they were doing it,

572
00:29:28,039 --> 00:29:32,759
and I was so excited because they were excited, you know,

573
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and they were moving and they felt better because and.

574
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Speaker 1: How long have you been trying to get them to

575
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:37,119
do that?

576
00:29:38,079 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: For years?

577
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:39,519
Speaker 1: Yeah?

578
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,079
Speaker 2: Twenty plus?

579
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're doing it, you know, and they are

580
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,880
starting to. I mean, thankfully, they have been blessed genetically

581
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and they do They've always been kind of like active people,

582
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,920
but you know, they are starting to see the decline

583
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,000
and it's been challenging and having some like you know,

584
00:29:56,079 --> 00:30:01,000
muscle skeletal issues and you know, considering maybe surgeries and

585
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:03,160
things of that nature. And I told them, hey, let's

586
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,279
start with this plate. Let's do some movement first, you know,

587
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and see how we can allow for the body to

588
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heal itself, because we really do have the power to

589
00:30:11,599 --> 00:30:15,079
heal ourselves, you know, but it's just a matter of

590
00:30:16,519 --> 00:30:20,400
doing it right, of actually getting on the floor and

591
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doing the work.

592
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Speaker 2: So I was excited about that.

593
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Speaker 3: So I'm hoping that I sparked something in them to

594
00:30:26,319 --> 00:30:28,960
continue to say that they started pilate's at eighty four

595
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and eighty six and I get them to one hundred

596
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,880
years and beyond, because that's the goal.

597
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Speaker 1: Yes, I love that. Congratulations on winning that long term battle.

598
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Doctor Noel Read, MD is my guest. We got two

599
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:47,079
more of these principles for longevity to cover before we

600
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finished today's program, and we'll get to those straight ahead.

601
00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:54,559
Only right here, Doctor Noel Read, MD. She is a

602
00:30:54,599 --> 00:30:58,119
family medicine practitioner but also a yogi yes, a pull

603
00:30:58,079 --> 00:31:00,160
lot easy why I don't know what you call these

604
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,119
people Pilate's person, Pilott's person, that Pilate's practitioner, and she's

605
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,079
giving us five tips for longevity. We went through three,

606
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,759
so we'll speed through these last two.

607
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Speaker 2: What is number four? Number four? Hydration?

608
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 3: Hydration, water water water. I cannot stress this enough. We

609
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,599
need water for so many things, right, and again, I

610
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,880
think most people are not getting enough water.

611
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,519
Speaker 1: Really, are you a subscriber to the eight glasses a

612
00:31:25,599 --> 00:31:27,839
day or half your body weight announces?

613
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:30,599
Speaker 3: I do think that for most adults, two to three

614
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,200
leaders a day should be the goal, maybe more depending

615
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,000
upon your level activity. If you're doing a hard workout,

616
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:39,839
if it's really hot outside, you're you're losing more fluids.

617
00:31:40,519 --> 00:31:42,119
But two to three leaders a day should be goal.

618
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:45,319
You should start an injured day with water, so preparing

619
00:31:45,359 --> 00:31:50,920
the gut for digestion and prepping for rest at night.

620
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:53,240
You want to start an injured day with water, so

621
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:54,880
that should be the first thing that your gut sees

622
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,160
in the morning, last thing at night. It's needed for

623
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,359
so many things, right, It's necessary for proper metabolism, for elimination,

624
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:05,240
for cognition. You know many people who have issues with

625
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:07,640
like brain fog or headaches, things of that nature. It

626
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,880
could be that you're dehydrated, you need to drink water.

627
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,000
It also helps with weight maintenance and management. Right, So

628
00:32:14,359 --> 00:32:17,160
when we're drinking water, first of all, that cuts back

629
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,079
on a lot of our calories because I think we

630
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:23,720
don't think about the liquid diet, right, what we're consuming

631
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,319
liquid rise and that adding more calories into our intake.

632
00:32:28,599 --> 00:32:31,480
But also when we're drinking water, you're gonna more likely

633
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,359
than not feel fuller, longer, not have those hunger cravings

634
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,240
because oftentimes too when we are feeling hungry, it may

635
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:42,519
not mean that we need to eat, but we need

636
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:44,960
to drink because hunger can be a sign of dehydration.

637
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So hydration is the fourth tip I would say for long.

638
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:56,359
Speaker 1: Term Okay, so nutrition, sleep, resistance, training, hydration, and the fifth.

639
00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 3: One, the fifth one. A lot of people are probably

640
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,759
gonna boohoo this one. Limit your alcohol.

641
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,759
Speaker 1: Limit your alcohol important enough to be on the five

642
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,480
top tips for longevity. And it seems like we're getting

643
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:11,680
more and more science. They used to say a little

644
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,799
wine's good for you. Now they're saying no.

645
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 3: Essentially, So with the data shows currently there is really

646
00:33:18,279 --> 00:33:24,359
no health benefit from any any amount of alcohol light

647
00:33:24,599 --> 00:33:28,839
or moderate. We're not getting that cardiovascular a that people

648
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:34,160
once said or improving our lipid profiles. Essentially, what is

649
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,799
consistent is that alcohol is directly correlated to increase mortality

650
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,119
risk as well as risk for certain cancers, including breast

651
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,160
and colorectal cancer.

652
00:33:45,759 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: I love the way doctors say it, you know, increase more.

653
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,279
In other words, you more likely to die on any

654
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:55,119
given day, you more likely to die.

655
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:58,799
Speaker 3: It just is not helpful. It is entertainment. It is

656
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,119
not nutrition, not giving you any real health benefit. It's

657
00:34:02,119 --> 00:34:04,400
not going to add years to your life at the

658
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,759
end of the day. And I mentioned this earlier. Inflammation

659
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,599
is the rude cause of all disease, right, and so

660
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:11,719
what we have to do as a goal is to

661
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,039
limit inflammation, and that means limiting, limiting putting things in

662
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,800
our body that are pro inflammatory, and alcohol is at

663
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,599
as well as other things like processed foods, refined sugars.

664
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:23,480
You know, you want to limit those types of foods

665
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,000
in the diet because it increases inflammation in the body

666
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,880
and then hence disease intwos. Now, the other thing that

667
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,079
alcohol inhibits is fat burn, and this is something that

668
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:37,760
I have learned on my own personal journey, so I

669
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,840
track my metabolism. Okay, so I have all the gadgets right,

670
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:47,480
and I use a metabolism tracker called the Lumen. It

671
00:34:47,599 --> 00:34:50,199
tells me if I'm in fat burn or cardburn. And

672
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,960
really the goal is to be in fat burn in

673
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,679
the morning as you start your day, after you've gone

674
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,599
through that fast you've had that rest period. And I

675
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,719
noticed every time that I drink alcohol, no matter the

676
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:03,199
out the type, low carb, low sugar, I could not

677
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,079
get into fat burn.

678
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:05,519
Speaker 2: And that was consistent.

679
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,800
Speaker 3: And so this was, you know, data showing me how

680
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,559
my metabolism was responding to alcohol. And we know this,

681
00:35:12,679 --> 00:35:16,679
you know, studies showed that alcohol of any amount does

682
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,880
limit your ability for the body to get into that

683
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,039
fat burning state. And so that was enough for me

684
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:25,400
to say, you know, I have to do away with it.

685
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:27,079
Speaker 1: I'm most saying.

686
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:31,039
Speaker 3: I'm never gonna drink, but I will indulge here in there.

687
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,719
But I'm about one hundred days in.

688
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: With no alcohol.

689
00:35:34,119 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 3: I've stopped completely, and what We're going to see how

690
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,920
long this goes. But you know, it was just like listen,

691
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:43,159
I'm doing all this work, doing yoga and pilates. I

692
00:35:43,159 --> 00:35:45,559
do not want to self sabotage you know, the work

693
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:48,000
that I've put in, and so that's when I made

694
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:50,159
the own my own personal goal is to kind of

695
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:53,559
just really eliminate it. But honestly, guys, you know, in

696
00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:56,400
terms of our overall health and longevity, it is just

697
00:35:56,559 --> 00:35:57,480
merely entertainment.

698
00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: It's so funny to me because it's it seems like

699
00:36:00,519 --> 00:36:03,320
the whole medical world has done a U turn on alcohol.

700
00:36:03,559 --> 00:36:06,400
We used to have fifty different excuses. Well, a glass

701
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,320
of one is good for your stress, and yeah, it's

702
00:36:09,519 --> 00:36:12,679
antihistamine or whatever. They were saying something something, it's good

703
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:15,599
for you, and now it's like, no, it's bad. It

704
00:36:15,679 --> 00:36:19,440
shortens your lifespan, it's not good for yourselves. It's bad

705
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:21,880
for your digestion, it's bad for fat bringing. It's like,

706
00:36:22,119 --> 00:36:24,719
we got to get our minds around this people. It's

707
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,000
why the same thing I say about fast food, it's

708
00:36:27,039 --> 00:36:29,280
not food, it's entertainment. If you want to go have

709
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,000
fast food, do it, but then you need a meal afterwards.

710
00:36:32,119 --> 00:36:36,519
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, And so alcohol it is just it's merely entertainment.

711
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: Entertainment only. There's no excuse other than just I want.

712
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,639
Speaker 3: To Yeah, so I really think that, you know, limiting

713
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its best. And as we talked before, having those cheat days,

714
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it's okay, have your glass of champagne here and there,

715
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you're you're in a celibratory mood. It's a special day,

716
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but you know not to buy it half in the home,

717
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you know where you're likely going to grab for it,

718
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not to have on a regular basis. Getting away from that,

719
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you know, moderate consumption, being that one to two glasses

720
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a day is not helpful.

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Speaker 2: It's not gonna aid you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we used to say, one to two

723
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a day. Now I see that the in medical form

724
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say like if you drink more than once a month,

725
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,519
that means you're not a moderate drinker when they're moving

726
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:26,320
the bar people. So well, thank you so much for

727
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:30,039
this conversation. It's inspiring. I study this stuff and I

728
00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:36,480
still get inspired. Five tips nutrition, sleep, resistance, training, hydration,

729
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,239
and limited alcohol. Sound a little like late great Dick Gregory.

730
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We used to say the leading cause of death in

731
00:37:42,199 --> 00:37:47,719
this country is lack of sleep, dehydration, and lack of exercise. Yeah,

732
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,159
so he was onto something. Tell us how to track

733
00:37:50,199 --> 00:37:52,039
you you're on socials and yeah.

734
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Speaker 3: So on social media. You can just follow me on

735
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,480
Instagram or TikTok. It's my name, Noel Reid, MD. Also

736
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:02,920
on YouTube again, my name Noel read. My practice is

737
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Trinity Health and Wellness Medical Group. The website is Trinitymdgroup

738
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dot com and that's medg RP dot com.

739
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Trinitymedgroup dot com. And whether you're looking for

740
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:22,039
a physician or a pilate's teacher or also, like you said,

741
00:38:22,039 --> 00:38:24,360
you do the GLP one stuff, you do some of

742
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,880
the anti aging stuff as well, some of the various

743
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,519
machines and devices and injections and guest, yeah, we got

744
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:37,960
a few tang things. Doctor Noel Reid is a great source.

745
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,079
We just have about thirty seconds here, Doctor Reid, what

746
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do you want to leave us with that?

747
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Speaker 3: Longevity is about consistency, not perfection, you know, so just

748
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:53,679
understand that it's about moving forward and choosing the things

749
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:56,000
that you can do for today and not worrying about

750
00:38:56,039 --> 00:38:59,679
what you can't. And if you can just be consistent,

751
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,559
that's it matters.

752
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming in being consistent. You've

753
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,199
been incredibly consistent. I've been, you know, watching you and

754
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,400
interviewing you for over ten years. She does an age.

755
00:39:11,599 --> 00:39:15,280
She always looks amazing and she's always doing the work.

756
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Doctor Noah read, thanks so much, Thank you guys.

757
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:18,599
Speaker 2: Now, must day.

758
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: Namas stay, which actually means peace right. Yes, no, must stay. Indeed,

759
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,360
don't forget to tap in with me on social media.

760
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I'm at DAPRIMA radio, d ip r I m A

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and then radio. I know you guys like to call

762
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,679
me all kinds of other things, but it's us fine.

763
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,239
As long as you're at fifteen eighty KBLA. That's the

764
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,960
most important thing. Tavis Smiley's up next. He's got a

765
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,679
great show, per usual, so you don't want to miss that.

766
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My mama, the late Great Diane da Prima, was a poet.

767
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She was Poet Lauriate of San Francisco. I love to

768
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end my show with a quote, and lately I've been

769
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using the one from her poem Rant. She said, as

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the ultimate famine is the starvation of the imagination. Until

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next time, I beloved, k b L A delegation one

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Love

