WEBVTT 1 00:00:17.199 --> 00:00:20.839 Hello, and welcome to Psychic Teachers. I'm your host Samantha Fay. 2 00:00:21.239 --> 00:00:24.760 And I'm Gab Bowen, and today we are diving into 3 00:00:24.800 --> 00:00:27.519 the intriguing world of alien. 4 00:00:27.160 --> 00:00:31.359 Abductions with our guest Simon Baun. In addition to hosting 5 00:00:31.440 --> 00:00:37.840 two popular podcasts, Our Paranormal Afterlife and the Alien UFO Podcast, 6 00:00:38.280 --> 00:00:42.920 Simon's also a clinical hypnotherapist and the author of Verified 7 00:00:43.079 --> 00:00:49.439 Near Death Experiences and Aspects of Alien Abduction Shocking UFO Encounters, 8 00:00:49.719 --> 00:00:52.399 which we're going to be talking about today. 9 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:55.840 I'm so excited to dive into this book. Simon, Welcome 10 00:00:55.920 --> 00:00:56.560 to the show. 11 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:58.560 Yeah, it's great to be here. It's really nice to 12 00:00:58.600 --> 00:00:59.000 talk to you. 13 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:03.359 Off with, when did you decide that you were interested 14 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.719 in aliens and abductions and that whole phenomenon. 15 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:08.040 Was it early as a kid? 16 00:01:08.319 --> 00:01:10.719 Yeah, it was. I would go to the local public 17 00:01:10.760 --> 00:01:13.159 library when I was ten years old and I would 18 00:01:13.159 --> 00:01:15.959 get out any book I could and supernatural, so it 19 00:01:16.000 --> 00:01:18.879 would have been ghosts and Bigfoot and UFOs and things. 20 00:01:19.760 --> 00:01:23.799 And that was nineteen seventy five, so it's not like 21 00:01:23.840 --> 00:01:26.760 there was the Internet around. But over time, more and 22 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:29.439 more books came out, you know, like Raymond Moody's book 23 00:01:29.439 --> 00:01:32.799 about in your Death experiences than Travis Walton's book and 24 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:36.159 Whitney Streeber, and then it really started to build up 25 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:39.920 in the nineties. And it seems in the seventies and 26 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:43.760 eighties and before that, UFO researchers were only interested in 27 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:46.439 the craft, just the nuts and bolts of it. I 28 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:49.000 was always, yeah, but what about the aliens? I want 29 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:52.840 to know about them? So when the abduction thing started 30 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:55.799 coming up, that's when I started, you know, that was 31 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:59.000 like the thing that I really wanted to find out about. 32 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:04.159 So since I've seen UFOs a couple of times, one 33 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:07.680 of them was very close up and I was taken 34 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:13.000 through a pass life aggression where spontaneously memories came up 35 00:02:13.120 --> 00:02:16.400 with me being alien abductioned. Is that a phrase? 36 00:02:16.800 --> 00:02:17.680 But it is now? 37 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:23.159 Yeah, So yeah, It's always been an interest of mine. 38 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:27.719 And that's the question of did I have this alien 39 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:31.599 abduction memory and hypnosis because it happened, or is it 40 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:34.759 that I'm so fascinated by it my subconscious just made 41 00:02:34.759 --> 00:02:35.120 it up. 42 00:02:35.520 --> 00:02:38.520 Can you tell us about that or is it uncomfortable 43 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:39.240 to talk about? 44 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:43.479 It's okay because in December I had another past life aggression, 45 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:47.560 and we investigated that there as well. But I was 46 00:02:47.680 --> 00:02:51.039 taken through a pass life and I must saw myself 47 00:02:51.080 --> 00:02:53.280 in Venice, and I think it was the sixteenth century, 48 00:02:53.960 --> 00:02:56.680 and I saw the death of that past life, and 49 00:02:56.759 --> 00:02:59.400 I found myself as a ball of light looking down 50 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:03.199 on that body. And then the hypnotherapist said, okay, then 51 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:06.000 just drift away, just drift away from that life, leave 52 00:03:06.039 --> 00:03:08.960 it all behind, just telling the next thing you see. 53 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:14.879 And instantly I was terrified. It was like somebody flicked 54 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:16.960 a switch. I went from zero to one hundred. There 55 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.560 was no build up of fear. And afterwards the hypnotherapist 56 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:24.199 said that she could see my muscles quivering. So I 57 00:03:24.240 --> 00:03:27.199 was so scared. And I found myself on a table, 58 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:31.960 like a steel metal table. There were two grays on 59 00:03:32.000 --> 00:03:33.960 my right hand side, a gray alia on my left 60 00:03:34.000 --> 00:03:37.199 hand side. They had this contraption and they were sort 61 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:43.159 of examining my body. I was completely naked. And after 62 00:03:43.199 --> 00:03:45.680 that had happened, they got me off the table and 63 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:47.520 I was standing there and I had a gray either 64 00:03:47.639 --> 00:03:51.199 side of me. And then I had this sudden vision 65 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:54.439 in my mind that they must have put there where 66 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:58.479 I was standing in a forest at night, and the 67 00:03:58.599 --> 00:04:00.879 whole area had been clear, maybe the size of a 68 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.360 football field, and it was just tree stumps. And in 69 00:04:03.400 --> 00:04:06.599 the sky there was another planet, and it was far 70 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:10.400 too close for reality, because if planets that close, our 71 00:04:10.400 --> 00:04:13.960 gravity fields would get involved in magnetic fields and things. 72 00:04:14.039 --> 00:04:17.800 But there was a pathway coming off that planet leading 73 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:20.680 down to it. We were standing and all these children 74 00:04:20.680 --> 00:04:23.600 were walking down the path. They're all dressed in white, 75 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:26.319 and I'm with all these adults and everybody's really happy, 76 00:04:26.560 --> 00:04:29.000 and the children are getting big hugs and they were 77 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:32.319 happy to meet. And I heard this message in my 78 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:36.040 mind that said, when the planets meet, the children will return. 79 00:04:37.439 --> 00:04:39.279 And then the next thing, I was back in that 80 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:42.839 room with the aliens. They took me over to a 81 00:04:43.000 --> 00:04:45.720 wall that just looked like a wall, but then this 82 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:50.600 hole opened up in it that was cookie cutter shape me. 83 00:04:50.920 --> 00:04:53.360 It was like I could walk into it and fit perfectly. 84 00:04:54.000 --> 00:04:56.360 And on the other side, it wasn't a hallway or 85 00:04:56.399 --> 00:05:01.600 a room. It was a massive, energetic all the colors 86 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.839 of the rainbow shifting around. And I stepped through and 87 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:06.879 I was going out one hundred miles an hour through 88 00:05:06.879 --> 00:05:09.600 that space, and I got the sense of other people 89 00:05:10.319 --> 00:05:13.519 all going in the same direction, and I ended up 90 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:16.240 in this white room with all these white chairs down 91 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:18.839 the sides, and it was long and thin, like a 92 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:22.720 railway carriage, and there were clothes everywhere, and there were 93 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:25.519 other people there, and there were two Grays, and the 94 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:28.600 message was nobody goes home till you got your clothes on. 95 00:05:29.920 --> 00:05:32.439 And I walked down to the end of the carriage 96 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:34.800 where they were. There was a hole in the floor, 97 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:37.800 and I just stepped forward and went down through that hole. 98 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:40.639 And then I was back home in my flat in 99 00:05:40.680 --> 00:05:44.720 London two am. And I got up the next morning, 100 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:47.120 went to work like nothing happens, like no memory of 101 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:50.439 it at all. So that is what came up at 102 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:56.639 that point. Wow, what was that, Simon, I'd say that 103 00:05:56.879 --> 00:05:57.959 was twenty ten. 104 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:02.639 Were the Grays nice to you or were they not emotional? 105 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:06.160 I'm emotional. I saw it seemed in that room they 106 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:08.879 just had a job to do, and you know, we've 107 00:06:08.879 --> 00:06:11.040 got a hundred humans to do this evening, let's just 108 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:13.279 get them done. That kind of attitude. 109 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:18.720 And while you were lying on that table naked, what 110 00:06:18.800 --> 00:06:21.480 were your emotions or did you have any emotions? Were 111 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:22.199 you just there? 112 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:28.879 Yeah? I was just really really scared and terrified, and 113 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:31.680 I don't remember any communication with them in that room. 114 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.319 And because in December, when I was taking through a 115 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:39.079 past life for Russian, I went to another memory where 116 00:06:39.240 --> 00:06:42.680 I was in this room, same scenario, on a table. 117 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:46.480 These three short graze around me, and in that memory, 118 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:49.439 I'm shouting at them like leave me alone, leave me alone, 119 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:53.879 stop it with you know, plenty of foul language. And 120 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:57.480 I got the message from them that they said, what 121 00:06:57.519 --> 00:07:00.839 are you complaining about. You've done this alone times before. 122 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:05.800 You know this is necessary. And then a really tall 123 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:09.399 gray came in, maybe six or seven feet tall, and 124 00:07:09.680 --> 00:07:12.199 it bent over me and its head came down so 125 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.839 its nose was about an inch from my nose, and 126 00:07:14.920 --> 00:07:18.279 his big black eyes were over my eyes, and I 127 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:20.879 felt like it was rummaging around in my brain, looking 128 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:23.680 at my memories and my thoughts and my emotions and things, 129 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:28.439 and it kind of felt like they were doing maintenance, 130 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:31.199 like if you put your car in the garage, they 131 00:07:31.319 --> 00:07:33.879 checked the oil and the tires and things. So it 132 00:07:33.959 --> 00:07:37.759 was like they were checking my body as your routine maintenance. 133 00:07:39.040 --> 00:07:42.079 And it was almost like this personality of Simon making 134 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:44.040 all this noise was just a pain in the neck, 135 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:46.639 almost like if you put your car in the garage 136 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:48.480 and they start doing the check and the radio in 137 00:07:48.519 --> 00:07:51.360 the car comes on really loud. It's annoying. They just 138 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:55.160 turn it off. But they couldn't turn me off that time. 139 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:58.879 So that's the feeling I got from them that time 140 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:03.079 that as far as they concern, I've done this throughout 141 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:06.160 my whole life. I got no memories of it, but 142 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:10.360 something about the past life regression. We were in the 143 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:14.399 space before I was incarnated in this life and I 144 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:17.839 was standing with my spirit guide and two Grays were there, 145 00:08:17.879 --> 00:08:21.079 and they were saying, would you do this life for us? 146 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:25.720 We know that you incarnate for your soul to progress 147 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:29.000 and learn things, but for this life, you'd think it 148 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:32.320 great if you would be a messenger. And apparently I 149 00:08:32.399 --> 00:08:35.440 agreed to that. And it's that kind of thing of like, well, 150 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:38.240 Simon didn't agree that my soul. 151 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.480 Might have a talking your spirit guide about it to 152 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:43.919 see if your spirit guide says, oh, yeah, you signed 153 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:45.039 the contract before you gain. 154 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:50.039 Remember I haven't taught the spirit guide about it. I 155 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:53.759 should do that next time if I get you past 156 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:56.639 life regression. We're all so. 157 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:00.080 Ociting, you don't think about guides and off planet being 158 00:09:00.320 --> 00:09:05.360 being together. You know, I never really considered that is 159 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.600 part of our soul plan working with these beings as well. 160 00:09:09.840 --> 00:09:10.679 That's interesting. 161 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:15.159 There's two people in my book, Mike Clelland who wrote 162 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:20.360 the forward, and Sev Tock, and they both told roughly 163 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:24.480 the same story. With Mike Clelland, he was picked up 164 00:09:24.960 --> 00:09:27.159 and he found himself in a hallway on board a 165 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:31.000 ship of these gray aliens, and he realized he was 166 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:33.960 a gray alien as well, and they led him down 167 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:38.360 this hallway into what he said was attacking nineteen seventies 168 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:43.519 like boardroom with awful carpet and plastic folding chairs and 169 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:46.879 wood paneling. And he says, he doesn't believe there's actually 170 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:49.799 that on a border UFO, but that's what you saw. 171 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.399 And there was a big boardroom table, and on the 172 00:09:52.440 --> 00:09:56.080 other side there was the lineup of grays there, almost 173 00:09:56.120 --> 00:09:59.759 like he was standing before them, like if you're sent 174 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:02.840 to see the head master or the principal or you're 175 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:05.799 having a job interview. But he said he was just complaining. 176 00:10:06.080 --> 00:10:08.080 It was just you didn't tell me how hard it 177 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.600 was going to be to a human to be a human. 178 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:15.759 When I agreed to incarnate and they basically said to him, well, 179 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:20.039 tough luck, get on with it. But sev Talk had 180 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:23.600 pretty much exactly the same thing, complaining, you didn't tell 181 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:25.960 me how hard it was going to be. But with 182 00:10:26.039 --> 00:10:28.720 her they said, yeah, sorry about that. We didn't realize. 183 00:10:29.679 --> 00:10:34.279 So this reincarnation thing is showing up in all different places. 184 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:37.200 It's not just me, and that's sort of part of 185 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:39.480 what the book is. It's to look for these patterns 186 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.240 and these recurring elements and consistency. 187 00:10:43.000 --> 00:10:45.480 That's what I appreciated about your book is that it's 188 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:49.639 not a compilation of stories. There are fantastic stories in 189 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:52.360 there that are very interesting to read, but then you 190 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:55.960 pull out what connects these stories and you group them 191 00:10:56.360 --> 00:10:59.519 so that we can see the commonalities. And one of 192 00:10:59.559 --> 00:11:03.440 the common that kind of freaked me out was the 193 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:06.960 screen memories. I know Mike refers to it. I think 194 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:09.919 he started that whole idea with the owls, but you 195 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:14.440 really dive deep into it. That just fascinated me but 196 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:18.320 also frightened me to think about how malleable our memories 197 00:11:18.360 --> 00:11:18.639 can be. 198 00:11:19.120 --> 00:11:20.080 Can you talk about that? 199 00:11:21.840 --> 00:11:24.799 Yeah, Well, it seems that they can overlay an image 200 00:11:24.960 --> 00:11:28.720 over themselves in that moment while you're interacting with them, 201 00:11:29.799 --> 00:11:33.440 and there's people they're adults now, but they talk about 202 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:35.639 when they were children at four or five years old 203 00:11:36.080 --> 00:11:40.279 and they'd get visited by monkeys or clowns or muppets. 204 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:43.320 There was somebody who said Captain Hook came to visit, 205 00:11:43.480 --> 00:11:46.960 and at the time their favorite film was Peter Pan, 206 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:49.720 so Captain Hook would be a great visitor. Maybe Peter 207 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:51.840 Pan would be a bit better. Actually not the villain. 208 00:11:51.960 --> 00:11:54.799 But it was that thing where it's like they could 209 00:11:54.879 --> 00:11:57.679 pick out of your mind what was best for you 210 00:11:58.120 --> 00:12:00.559 so that you didn't freak out, so they didn't scare you. 211 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:04.480 And the screen members show up with adults as well. 212 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:07.360 That there's a woman who's driving down the road and 213 00:12:07.399 --> 00:12:10.120 there's this fourth owl standing in the middle of the road. 214 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:12.919 There's no such thing as a fourth for owl. They 215 00:12:12.919 --> 00:12:16.320 don't grow that big. And it's like Mike Clellands, I've 216 00:12:16.320 --> 00:12:18.919 put what he says in the book that there was 217 00:12:18.960 --> 00:12:21.519 this woman walking along a path in a forest, having 218 00:12:21.559 --> 00:12:24.200 a nice walk. She came round a curve and there 219 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:27.759 was a gray alien standing there, and the gray saw 220 00:12:27.799 --> 00:12:31.039 her and thought, oh no, she can see me. And 221 00:12:31.080 --> 00:12:34.480 the gray just started thinking owl, owl, owl, and she 222 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:37.519 saw it slowly morph into an owl, and then it 223 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:42.000 turned around and walked away into the trees. So it's 224 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:44.720 weird how it shows up, and it seems to be 225 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:48.559 a thing where they're protecting themselves. I suppose because us 226 00:12:48.639 --> 00:12:51.919 humans are a crazy violent bunch, and you can you're 227 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:54.279 not surprised where they might be paralyzing us off when 228 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:57.240 they want to pick us up. So it's one of 229 00:12:57.279 --> 00:12:59.600 their tricks, one of their techniques. 230 00:13:01.159 --> 00:13:02.960 One of the things that hit me as I was 231 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:08.759 reading your books, I was how different the word reality 232 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:16.559 becomes in everyday life and then grays turning into ourls 233 00:13:16.600 --> 00:13:20.000 and whatever. What is real and what do we accept 234 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.120 and why do we not and how do we see 235 00:13:22.120 --> 00:13:26.600 the world around us in terms of our own version 236 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:29.799 of reality if we're willing to accept that there are 237 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:33.360 many different realities? Am I making sense to you? 238 00:13:33.519 --> 00:13:33.799 Yeah? 239 00:13:33.840 --> 00:13:37.080 Like what about the time distortion stories you talk about 240 00:13:37.200 --> 00:13:38.639 how exactly. 241 00:13:39.519 --> 00:13:42.919 Well, I suppose there's that thing that we evolved on 242 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:47.480 this planet and we basically set up to survive and reproduce, 243 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:49.879 so we only see what we need to and hear 244 00:13:49.919 --> 00:13:53.039 what we need to hear, and as wavelengths go, you 245 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:55.200 know our site, I mean picks up a small spectrum 246 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:58.559 of light, and so that's our reality is very based 247 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:04.440 in this physical stuff. But then weird things happened, this 248 00:14:04.840 --> 00:14:07.759 thing called the OZ factor. It's almost like you're going 249 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:10.480 to OZ and weird stuff shows up. There's a guy 250 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:12.399 in the book who's with his friends and they're playing 251 00:14:12.440 --> 00:14:16.399 ball and he's I think seven or ten years old, 252 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:19.799 and suddenly it's just silence, and he said, the insects 253 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:22.759 are really loud at this time of year, and all 254 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:25.080 his friends were like statues and he was the only 255 00:14:25.080 --> 00:14:27.960 one moving around. There was this huge craft in the 256 00:14:28.000 --> 00:14:30.879 sky over them, and I'm not sure if they had 257 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:34.360 missing time then that that's one of the things that 258 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:37.519 shows up. But after it had finished, one of his 259 00:14:37.559 --> 00:14:40.399 friends said to him, you weren't here. You disappeared for 260 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:43.200 a while, so he thinks maybe he was picked up. 261 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.720 But another time distortion one was this guy Jim Sparks. 262 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.799 He's not in my book. It's the thing where every 263 00:14:49.840 --> 00:14:53.039 single person in my book I have talked to. So 264 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:55.039 I didn't want to put Jim's story in because I 265 00:14:55.039 --> 00:14:58.720 haven't talked to him. But he said he's had tons 266 00:14:58.759 --> 00:15:01.399 of encounters with the Great and one night, he said, 267 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:04.519 he was sitting on the sofa watching the TV, and 268 00:15:04.919 --> 00:15:07.759 he got up, went to the fridge, got a beer, 269 00:15:08.360 --> 00:15:10.519 turned around, put a little bit of fish food in 270 00:15:10.639 --> 00:15:13.879 for the fish. And then the next thing he knows 271 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.960 the grays there and they're taking him. He said. When 272 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:19.519 he came back, he was standing at the back of 273 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:23.000 the room. He saw himself on the couch, then get up, 274 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:25.440 go to get the beer and feed the fish. So 275 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:28.320 they returned him before they had taken him. 276 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:30.840 We was like watching that happen. 277 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:33.080 Yeah, WHOA. 278 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:37.159 Let's talk about the childhood stuff, because you have a 279 00:15:37.200 --> 00:15:41.200 whole chapter on childhood abductions. 280 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:42.240 Do you think that. 281 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:46.279 Everyone who has a memory of being abducted do you 282 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:49.120 think it always starts in childhood. 283 00:15:49.559 --> 00:15:53.279 I think it's possible. Not everybody has those memories, but 284 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:55.519 it seems to be a program that they run with 285 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:59.919 you throughout your life, and if you're remembering adult experience 286 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.440 is it probably does go back to childhood. And it's 287 00:16:03.440 --> 00:16:06.600 weird because when with the screen memories, the children talk 288 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:09.360 about it's just fun. They're not scared, they're playing games, 289 00:16:09.399 --> 00:16:10.480 they're learning things. 290 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:14.519 As you're talking. Little boy in closed Encounters who. 291 00:16:14.440 --> 00:16:18.799 Was so exciting. Yeah, and then there's the classroom, which 292 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:21.799 I got a chapter on, where they talk about when 293 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:24.200 they're older than four or five, it's more like eight 294 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:27.440 or ten. They get into these classroom environments and they 295 00:16:27.559 --> 00:16:31.559 talk to do different things. One of them is telekinesis 296 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:34.960 and another one is reading these symbols. There's a guy 297 00:16:34.960 --> 00:16:38.519 who said he was shown the building blocks of consciousness 298 00:16:38.639 --> 00:16:41.759 or the building blocks of the universe, and that's what 299 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:45.320 they were being taught. So the childhood experience is a 300 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:49.080 lot less like the adult ones. They're not that paralysis 301 00:16:49.399 --> 00:16:52.720 and then finding yourself naked on a table. The children 302 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:56.480 are treated differently to that, and it's not invasive like that, 303 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.000 and it's not what you might say, abusive like that physically. 304 00:17:01.039 --> 00:17:05.400 It's only when you reach puberty and you're able to 305 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:09.440 reproduce that everything changes and it becomes more physical. 306 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:15.519 Hey, y'all, it's deb and I am so excited that. 307 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:19.880 Coming in June is the second three session course in 308 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:25.440 our Sacred Summer series. It's entitled Sacred Numbers Aligning to 309 00:17:25.559 --> 00:17:30.319 Earthly Patterns. Join me and Zarah Reney as we explore 310 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:34.160 the magic and sacredness of numbers from the spiral of 311 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:39.200 Seashells to Labyrinths to your house number. Come learn why 312 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:44.440 and how numbers matter in your world. Registration opens Friday, 313 00:17:44.480 --> 00:17:48.880 May twenty ninth, and details are on my website deboen 314 00:17:49.119 --> 00:17:52.839 dot com. We so hope you will join us. Thanks 315 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:57.599 so much, everybody. 316 00:17:57.680 --> 00:18:02.519 Okay, well, let's move from reproduction and stuff to hybrids. 317 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:05.240 You have another whole section and hybrids. Do you think 318 00:18:05.279 --> 00:18:09.160 that's a part of their fascination with our reproduction and 319 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:12.839 our exams or are they just using us to make hybrids. 320 00:18:13.519 --> 00:18:16.079 Yeah, it seems to be the main thing making the hybrids. 321 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:19.599 That seems to be when people at puberty, it can 322 00:18:19.640 --> 00:18:22.599 go through to their forty maybe even fifty. That's what 323 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:27.480 it's all about. Reproduction, and they take sperm, and they 324 00:18:27.519 --> 00:18:32.160 take eggs. And there are women like in my book 325 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:36.160 who are pregnant for maybe three months. They've seen the doctor, 326 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:39.720 the medical records show they were pregnant, and then one 327 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:42.480 morning they wake up and the baby's gone. And there's 328 00:18:42.519 --> 00:18:45.480 one woman in my book who went to the doctor 329 00:18:45.599 --> 00:18:48.880 afterwards and the doctors said, you'd had a miscarriage. We 330 00:18:48.960 --> 00:18:50.640 need to do something. I think it might be called 331 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:54.680 a DNC and he said. Afterwards, he came out to 332 00:18:54.759 --> 00:18:58.000 him and said, well, we didn't need to do it. It's 333 00:18:57.720 --> 00:19:01.519 somebody else has already done it. That was weird. And 334 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:03.720 there was a woman she's going to be in the 335 00:19:03.759 --> 00:19:08.079 next book. She had an operation on her appendix and 336 00:19:08.119 --> 00:19:11.799 the doctors found a small bag full of bebies. That's 337 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:15.319 what they look like, tiny little metal spheres. But they 338 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:19.559 said to her, somebody's removed your right ovary and they've 339 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:23.880 cauterized the fillopian tube. When did you have the surgery done? 340 00:19:23.960 --> 00:19:27.400 And she's like, I've never had this surgery done, and 341 00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:31.160 the surgeons say, well, this isn't nature. Nature doesn't do this. 342 00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:33.680 And she was able to go back to the navy 343 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:35.960 and get her medical records which showed she did have 344 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:40.279 a right ovary while she was in the navy. So 345 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:44.440 those things sitting up, and then people are saying a 346 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.720 bit later, they introduced to children on the craft. The 347 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:50.079 grays picked them up, and it might be a baby, 348 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:52.599 and then it might go on. So they meet children 349 00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:54.839 when they're seven or eight years old. Then they may 350 00:19:54.880 --> 00:19:58.240 meet them when they're adults, and they have names for them. 351 00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:02.240 Sometimes the women say as soon as they meet the children, 352 00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:06.039 their whole maternal instincts kick in and itel they feel 353 00:20:06.160 --> 00:20:10.319 very loving, and other times women have said I just 354 00:20:10.359 --> 00:20:13.839 found them disgusting. I didn't want to have anything. But 355 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:16.720 I think they may be the hybrids that look very 356 00:20:16.759 --> 00:20:20.559 alien with very little hair, just wispy white hair, and 357 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:25.200 huge eyes and very very skinny. So this hybrid thing 358 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:28.599 is happening, and it looks like they've can make the 359 00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:31.440 hybrids more and more look like humans as time has 360 00:20:31.440 --> 00:20:34.400 gone on. But I wonder if it's something to do 361 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:38.599 with incarnation and spiritual side of it. It's not just 362 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:42.880 this physical thing. It's Dr David Jacobs in the nineties. 363 00:20:43.319 --> 00:20:46.079 He was making out like the hybrid thing is invasion 364 00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:52.240 and it's very sinister and very nasty. But then I 365 00:20:52.319 --> 00:20:55.240 go to Bob Blizare. He's one of the people who 366 00:20:55.319 --> 00:20:57.240 said when he was at S four, they gave him 367 00:20:57.240 --> 00:21:00.440 these folders about the different programs they were running there, 368 00:21:00.839 --> 00:21:03.079 and they had this folder about the aliens, and it's 369 00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:07.119 said the aliens have edited human DNA sixty five times 370 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:13.799 over thousands of years, and maybe that they're just halfway 371 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:16.920 through the program. There's another sixty five edits to go, 372 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:21.039 and the hybrids are part of the program of whatever 373 00:21:21.079 --> 00:21:23.880 it is they're trying to build here, and it may 374 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:26.640 be something that's really quite positive. The hybrids may be 375 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:31.880 more psychic or telepathic, more aware of our spiritual nature. 376 00:21:32.880 --> 00:21:35.720 Because there's a couple of people who've told me because 377 00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:38.240 I talk about disclosure, and I say, well, the aliens 378 00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:40.839 don't want disclosure, do they, Because if they wanted it, 379 00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:45.519 they could just do it themselves. But they don't. And 380 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:49.119 they said to me, well, they don't want to disclose 381 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:52.640 because of who we are at the moment. They won't 382 00:21:52.680 --> 00:21:56.759 show themselves and contact us until we're fully aware the 383 00:21:56.799 --> 00:22:02.119 whole human race, of our spiritual nature, of reincarnation of 384 00:22:02.119 --> 00:22:06.480 our souls, so that could be hundreds or thousands of 385 00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:07.119 years away. 386 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:11.440 I have two questions, Simon. One is do you know 387 00:22:11.480 --> 00:22:14.599 about Neil de grass Tyson's new book entitled Take Me 388 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:17.880 to Your Leader. I saw an interview with him recently 389 00:22:18.240 --> 00:22:21.680 where he said, it's really a book on manners. It's 390 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:24.279 really a nice thing that you should be polite to 391 00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:27.920 folks and don't assume that an appendage coming towards you 392 00:22:28.160 --> 00:22:31.920 is a hand you should shake. And I loved the idea, 393 00:22:32.519 --> 00:22:35.720 and I'm sure cloaked in the humor of this book, 394 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:39.759 is really this idea that you're really talking about, which 395 00:22:39.839 --> 00:22:45.680 is how do we view off planet beings coming to 396 00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:50.279 Earth in a kinder, more connected, more spiritual way. If 397 00:22:50.319 --> 00:22:53.200 I'm hearing you right, what is the spirituality of this? 398 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:57.200 And another question I have is, while you've been talking 399 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:01.039 about your experiences with grays, what do you know about 400 00:23:01.119 --> 00:23:05.839 or think about experiences? We're beings who present physically in 401 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:08.000