Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to Everything's Political. I'm your host,
Speaker 1: Taya Shoemake. You can also find us online at Everything's
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Speaker 1: the Godfather of shock rock. You probably know him better
Speaker 1: by his stage name Alice Cooper, who was born on
Speaker 1: this day in Detroit, Rock City, Michigan, in are you
Speaker 1: ready for this?
Speaker 2: Joe nineteen forty eight. Wow, Alice Cooper is seventy six
Speaker 2: years old. That just puts a great big smile on
Speaker 2: my face.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 1: Which you may not know about Alice Cooper or Vincent
Speaker 1: if you'd like to call him that is that he
Speaker 1: is an unapologetic Christian and credits Almighty God in the
Speaker 1: person of Jesus Christ for healing him of his addiction
Speaker 1: to drugs and alcohol. And in an interview that I saw,
Speaker 1: he said that he was praying about it because he thought, Wow,
Speaker 1: now I can't be Alice Cooper anymore. And he said
Speaker 1: the sense that he got was no, no, no, no, go
Speaker 1: be Alice Cooper. I gave you that for him just
Speaker 1: follow me and not the trappings of the world. And
Speaker 1: he did. He's been sober for like forty some years,
Speaker 1: forty five years, it's been married for forty nine years.
Speaker 1: God bless his wife. And so I love this example
Speaker 1: because God put him squarely in the camp of the Philistines,
Speaker 1: and he encourages young people through his foundation of solid rock.
Speaker 1: It helps at risk teens and children, shares the gospel
Speaker 1: wherever he goes in rock and roll, and there's a
Speaker 1: portion of that to which I can relate being put
Speaker 1: in the camp of the Philistines, where you are surrounded
Speaker 1: at every side, it seems by the enemy, and sometimes
Speaker 1: you feel like a voice crying in the wilderness. But
Speaker 1: you have to trudge on because that's what we're called
Speaker 1: to do. And so I appreciate Uncle Alice, and I
Speaker 1: appreciate being alive when we're probably going to walk through
Speaker 1: some adversity, if we're going to get to the other
Speaker 1: side of what ails this country. But there is a
Speaker 1: new sheriff in town jail, and in the words of
Speaker 1: Uncle Alice, it's no more mister Niskota. Okay with us
Speaker 1: today is another listener favorite. We have been so blessed lately,
Speaker 1: and you all know him. I don't need to go
Speaker 1: through his extensive credential list in the biological sciences and medicine,
Speaker 1: but I will mention that he is also a best
Speaker 1: selling author of one of my favorites, Lies my Government
Speaker 1: told me, and a new book or newer book that
Speaker 1: he wrote with his wife, doctor Jill Glaspul Malone cy
Speaker 1: War enforcing the New World Order, and he's here, hopefully
Speaker 1: to help us flesh out some of the events of
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. He is doctor Robert Malone,
Speaker 1: Doctor Malone, welcome back and thanks for being here.
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot for having me on.
Speaker 1: Okay, I've been dying for this interview for a long time,
Speaker 1: since well for two weeks. If you would talk about
Speaker 1: Stargate and I'll just start with this. I know Trump
Speaker 1: has a blind spot with the mRNA technology, but as
Speaker 1: I was watching Larry Ellison and I know, you know
Speaker 1: Sam Altman is I think Larry Ellison might be the
Speaker 1: bank or part of it. And Sam Altman of course
Speaker 1: is the open AI guy. How do these tech bros
Speaker 1: even get an audience at this point?
Speaker 3: So insiders that I know because of the circles, I
Speaker 3: find myself in these days have told me that Ellison
Speaker 3: was in the administration quite a bit. In Trump one,
Speaker 3: He's got a long standing in a personal relationship with Trump.
Speaker 3: I don't know about Altman is kind of like the
Speaker 3: new kid that's still wet behind the ears and doesn't
Speaker 3: really know how to behave on the big stage. But
Speaker 3: Ellison does. And and so here's my take on this.
Speaker 3: The issue at hand was really stargate to my eyes
Speaker 3: when I watched that pressor. What I see is Trump
Speaker 3: off at the side, Ellison kind of hogging the stage
Speaker 3: and the mic, and Ellison kind of interjecting or injecting
Speaker 3: a narrative of his own volition. I don't think that
Speaker 3: the mRNA application was pre vetted by Susie Wilds hard
Speaker 3: for me to imagine that was the case, especially on
Speaker 3: day two of the administration, talk about shooting yourself in
Speaker 3: the foot, of all the things they needed to talk about.
Speaker 3: And you'll notice there has not been a squeak since.
Speaker 3: So I suspect that Susie stepped in and said, guys,
Speaker 3: this is not helping. To my analysis, the subtext to
Speaker 3: all of this is transhumanism, which Trump is a fan of.
Speaker 3: I'm told Ellison is absolutely a fan of Altman is
Speaker 3: apparently a fan of I mean, look at Ellison, what
Speaker 3: is he eighty years old? He's got this smooth, shiny skin.
Speaker 3: He's doing everything he can. I could only speculate about
Speaker 3: what blood products he's taking whatever to maintain his youthful vigor,
Speaker 3: so to speak. I'm sure he's on. Let's give him
Speaker 3: the benefit of the doubt that he's getting natural hormone
Speaker 3: supplements and taking all his vitamins and whatever else he
Speaker 3: thinks he needs to preserve his appearance and health at
Speaker 3: age eighty. I think that Stargate is a trojan horse.
Speaker 3: So just to kind of put a couple of little
Speaker 3: data points in for folks, Stargate is basically a massive
Speaker 3: server farm is going to have, you know, be capitalized
Speaker 3: aspirationally at half a trillion dollars, of which if you
Speaker 3: listen to Musk back when this was all heated, Musk
Speaker 3: was saying they've only raised ten billion, only ten billion,
Speaker 3: So ten billion seems like a lot, but relative to
Speaker 3: five hundred billion, not so much. So these things are
Speaker 3: massively expensive, and the projected cost of energy to operate
Speaker 3: it is supposedly the equivalent of the entire natural gas
Speaker 3: consumption of the state of Texas. So massive energy requirements
Speaker 3: for all these server farms, and what's being anticipated. I
Speaker 3: live here in Virginia, Madison, Virginia, and the town just
Speaker 3: north of US towards DC is called Culpeper. Culpeper's an
Speaker 3: interesting place because it's got a lot of open land
Speaker 3: and it's basically they hung out the shingle says dear developer,
Speaker 3: please come here at the same time, and they hung
Speaker 3: out the shingle that says dear illegal immigrants, please come here.
Speaker 3: And we've had a huge, huge influx. All you got
Speaker 3: to do is go to Walmart on the right time
Speaker 3: of the week. So Culpeper has a massive facility that's
Speaker 3: mostly underground. Just to say that is ostensibly the film
Speaker 3: archives of the National Library of Medicine, but it goes
Speaker 3: eight floors down. I don't think they need that for
Speaker 3: film archives. So adjacent to that, they're now building out
Speaker 3: another massive Amazon server complex. And remember Amazon has THEDD
Speaker 3: contract for cloud services, and you know all kinds of
Speaker 3: sweetheart deals going around, but they won that against Microsoft,
Speaker 3: so it was pick your poison. What's being envisioned for
Speaker 3: these is because they all require huge, huge amounts of electricity.
Speaker 3: You'll remember back in the matrix that electricity was generated
Speaker 3: by human beings in theory, but in reality, the anticipation
Speaker 3: is going to be many nuclear power plants, something that
Speaker 3: Bill Gates of course has invested in that are cooled
Speaker 3: using basically a salt, liquefied salt that liquefies it at
Speaker 3: very high temperature. That's a lot more efficient for cooling
Speaker 3: than water. So that's the key technological breakthrough is a
Speaker 3: new cooling capability for these many plants that would be
Speaker 3: sighted all over the country as opposed to three mile
Speaker 3: Island that would serve all of the Northeast. It'll have
Speaker 3: little decentralized nuclear power plants in your backyard, better that,
Speaker 3: I guess, than coal fired power with all the mercury.
Speaker 3: So that's another pick you're poison. So this Stargate Enterprise
Speaker 3: was and it's already had a major setback. The Stargate
Speaker 3: Enterprise was envisioned to enable next generation artificial intelligence capabilities.
Speaker 3: Of course, that has all kinds of military consequences, and
Speaker 3: in particular it relates to an agenda item for mister
Speaker 3: Trump relating to American competitiveness, industrial competitiveness. It's believed that
Speaker 3: becoming a global superpower in artificial intelligence is going to
Speaker 3: be necessary to maintain a twenty first century industrial base,
Speaker 3: as well as the twenty first century warfare capabilities. Call
Speaker 3: it what it is and stop calling it defense. And
Speaker 3: that twenty first century warfare capability, by the way, is
Speaker 3: going to be totally transformational, and a lot of our
Speaker 3: twentieth century infrastructure of carriers, tanks, big heart where big
Speaker 3: armies is in transition now destroyers everything because of drone technology,
Speaker 3: and the new face of warfare is going to be
Speaker 3: probably artificial intelligence autonomously powered drones. So the drones no
Speaker 3: longer have to have a hot uplink to the facility
Speaker 3: in North Dakota where you have a bunch of kids
Speaker 3: sitting around with joysticks firing off whatever the latest missile
Speaker 3: technology is against our you, whoever is on the president's
Speaker 3: hit list. That's kind of the where all of this
Speaker 3: is going. And of course battle drones, not just flying
Speaker 3: battle drones, but basically robots like the Boston Technology Group
Speaker 3: with the robot dogs, et cetera. And of course the
Speaker 3: twenty first century soldier or super soldier, where they're going
Speaker 3: to basically wear a suit of armor that will augment
Speaker 3: all their capabilities like you saw in Avatar. Remember the
Speaker 3: battle dress in Avatar's going to kind of be like that.
Speaker 3: So getting back to Stargate, you can appreciate that Donald
Speaker 3: Trump as his agenda is to transform the American economy,
Speaker 3: and if you look at his overall agenda and the
Speaker 3: executive orders, a large number of them cluster around improving
Speaker 3: American competitiveness and transform the American economy, carrying down the debt,
Speaker 3: all of that, and clearly he's doing I think the
Speaker 3: proper term is a Jacksonian approach to US foreign policy.
Speaker 3: You know, unfortunately, akin to Jackson's positions with the Native
Speaker 3: American Indians that was just unapologetic in your face, get
Speaker 3: out of my way or you're going to die. And
Speaker 3: a lot of that's in the case of Trump, seems
Speaker 3: to be partially negotiating strategy. And you saw in the
Speaker 3: newspapers this morning or whatever you whatever you read the
Speaker 3: deals that are being struck. I think it's El Salvador
Speaker 3: that we're going to basically with Marco Rubio, export our
Speaker 3: prisoners down there, Sophie for service, Mega prisons and park
Speaker 3: them down there because they're going to be more cost effective.
Speaker 3: And also they're going to take the illegalaliens for which
Speaker 3: we do not have documentation about their citizenship because they
Speaker 3: were all told to throw away their papers when they
Speaker 3: came across the US border by the NGOs. So that's
Speaker 3: kind of a bigger picture. And then in the case
Speaker 3: of Stargate, Trump clearly wants advanced artificial intelligence, and Larry
Speaker 3: and Sam and company are asserting that they will deliver
Speaker 3: that for half trillion dollars and are looking for I'm
Speaker 3: not clear how much federal money they're looking for or
Speaker 3: how much they're just looking for kind of external validation.
Speaker 3: But obviously Altman has gotten crossways with Musk because Musk
Speaker 3: dumped money in open source AI and then he took
Speaker 3: it private. So Musk justifiably feels burned, and so everything
Speaker 3: he says has to be seen through the filter of
Speaker 3: his own pissed off point of view. And then along
Speaker 3: comes the open AI dump from China, and it appears
Speaker 3: that China has from a little ike and glean China
Speaker 3: has built into this AI in addition to their own bias,
Speaker 3: because of course, an AI in this generation of artificial
Speaker 3: intelligence the current generation of artificial intelligence, the AI is
Speaker 3: basically very dependent on machine learning, and machine learning is
Speaker 3: very dependent on the data that it's fed for generating
Speaker 3: its algorithms and then for the validation data set.
Speaker 1: And that's always the precariousness of AI. Right who's training.
Speaker 3: Currently current generator AI? Okay, current generation II is based
Speaker 3: on machine learning, which typically involves taking some large data
Speaker 3: set and splitting it in some way, training on one
Speaker 3: part of that data set, training the AI on the
Speaker 3: data set, and then using the other part of the
Speaker 3: randomly split data set to do validation tests to make
Speaker 3: sure that the AI has learned the right things, because
Speaker 3: these things are notoriously prone to making connections between things
Speaker 3: that aren't politically acceptable or spurious as artifacts. While these
Speaker 3: filters have to be built in, and apparently the Chinese
Speaker 3: have really reduce the number of secondary algorithms that are
Speaker 3: applied to ensure the AI doesn't run off the tracks,
Speaker 3: and also built it around their own data sets that
Speaker 3: reflect their own biases the season. So the consequence of
Speaker 3: having less algorithmic secondary checks on the output is that
Speaker 3: it runs a lot faster and it takes a lot
Speaker 3: less power. So suddenly the Chinese solution looks like the
Speaker 3: ls Altman solution is overbuilt, right and doesn't require so
Speaker 3: much power, So that's that's a glitch.
Speaker 1: Or money, right, power or money.
Speaker 3: So to my eyes, I think, given remember I said
Speaker 3: that these guys are fundamentally transhumanists, I am concerned that,
Speaker 3: as I mentioned, this is a Trojan horror and so
Speaker 3: the question is, what are you talking about Robert Trojan
Speaker 3: Horse for what he just has nothing to do with
Speaker 3: little men in Soldier outfits Trojan Horse in the sense
Speaker 3: that it is being sold for one purpose, but it's
Speaker 3: actually intended for another purpose. And the intended purpose, I
Speaker 3: believe is to enable the development of autonomous general AI
Speaker 3: or the super brain, the machine SuperBrain. That's if you
Speaker 3: look at this facility and the infrastructure and what they're
Speaker 3: talking about building in this looks like it would be
Speaker 3: the portal for development or enablement of autonomous general AI
Speaker 3: machine intelligence, which is projected to be thousands of fold
Speaker 3: in this next generation, thousands of fold more intelligent than
Speaker 3: the most intelligent human being in this world. That's being envisioned.
Speaker 3: Elon Musk is anticipating ability to deploy a home robot
Speaker 3: that of course would do your cleaning and cooking for
Speaker 3: you and free you up, just like the Washington washing
Speaker 3: machine is freed you up from menial labor, and make
Speaker 3: the homemaker even more autonomous from and less required to
Speaker 3: do domestic chores, which will free them up to I
Speaker 3: don't know what. And in this new robot that Musk
Speaker 3: is apparently building out as one of their I think
Speaker 3: it's a Tesla project, they're anticipating a price point of
Speaker 3: twenty thousand dollars. Okay, so the price of a Toyota basically,
Speaker 3: because that's what it comes down to. You an entry
Speaker 3: level Toyota, not a rev for what you know, goo
Speaker 3: good ones, but an entry level Toyota. You get to
Speaker 3: have your own home robot, and that home robot will
Speaker 3: have an installed artificial intelligence. So you'll have in your
Speaker 3: home a machine that has an IQ probably significantly higher
Speaker 3: than yours, even if we don't get to general autonomous
Speaker 3: AI yet, but you'll have something that has an IQ
Speaker 3: that that exceeds your own and the equivalent of multiple PhDs,
Speaker 3: so you know, and you're gonna have this thing doing
Speaker 3: your laundry and vacuuming your floors maybe, so you know,
Speaker 3: this will become your general go to for everything in
Speaker 3: fiction versions of what this looks like.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm thinking of Rosie from the Jetsons on steroids.
Speaker 3: That's that's I think the kindest and generalist version right
Speaker 3: of this future scenario. But it's one in Elon of course,
Speaker 3: with neurolink is in that same world of the tech
Speaker 3: bros that envision this new transhuman reality. And let's let's
Speaker 3: just recap on that. Uh, transhumanism is envisioned to be
Speaker 3: the next stage and evolution of the human species and
Speaker 3: to make biologic humans obsolete. If you don't buy into
Speaker 3: that version, and the transition, by the way, will be
Speaker 3: a neurolink type capability, and if you opt to not
Speaker 3: have the machine human interface implanted into your biologic self,
Speaker 3: then in this version I'm referring to the book Dark
Speaker 3: Aon as a good read. It's a little deep and twisty,
Speaker 3: but not a very bright picture. So in this new world,
Speaker 3: if you don't accept the transition state an implanted machine
Speaker 3: human interface so that you can directly interface with the
Speaker 3: machine world and their AIS and eventually their general autonomous AI,
Speaker 3: you will be relegated to something akin to pets. You
Speaker 3: will be obsolete and have a little practical function because,
Speaker 3: of course, in this version of Brave New World, what
Speaker 3: Mattias Desmond calls the bullshit jobs will become completely redundant.
Speaker 3: At the top of the list for those that are
Speaker 3: going to be made redundant, of course, or the computer coders.
Speaker 3: So hey, guys, wake up, you're building your own demise. Yes,
Speaker 3: So that gets to the whole useless eaters logic. What
Speaker 3: are we going to do with all these surplus humans
Speaker 3: that are just consuming resources and energy that aren't really
Speaker 3: productively contributing to whatever this new society is? And I
Speaker 3: think Stargate is the portal to that. That is, the
Speaker 3: intention is to enable this next key step of a
Speaker 3: general autonomous artificial intelligence. But they're not telling us that.
Speaker 3: So what that thing was on day two of the presidency,
Speaker 3: to my eyes, having pitched business plans way too many
Speaker 3: times and rarely if ever having them had them funded
Speaker 3: to Boston and Silicon Valley, Sandhill Road and La Joya,
Speaker 3: Torrey Pines Road venture capital firms, is this was a
Speaker 3: pitch and the target of the pitch was Donald Trump,
Speaker 3: and to some extent the target of the pitch was
Speaker 3: the American public. Okay, when you do a pitch, you're
Speaker 3: pitching some new technology platform. In your pitch, you got
Speaker 3: to basically answer the question. There's some key questions that
Speaker 3: you got to address. One is, well the dogs eat
Speaker 3: the dog food? Okay, I love that phrase from my
Speaker 3: day's back dealing with investors. And another is what's your
Speaker 3: unique competitive advantage? So what is it that these guys
Speaker 3: would have that Elon Musk doesn't have, for example, So
Speaker 3: that's an important part of a pitch deck. And another
Speaker 3: part is kind of who cares? What are you going
Speaker 3: to use it for? What is the killer app? Is
Speaker 3: off in the phrase what is the killer application that
Speaker 3: everybody off the street, the guy on the street can say, Oh,
Speaker 3: that sounds great, I'd like to have that, you know,
Speaker 3: akin to the autonomous AI powered robot in your house.
Speaker 3: What's the killer app? Well, what's going to vacuum your
Speaker 3: carpet better than your room? It does, and it'll take
Speaker 3: care of your one year old along the way. So
Speaker 3: they're sitting there they are pitching this. They pitched it
Speaker 3: to Donald Trump. If you listen carefully, they've hit his
Speaker 3: hot buttons, which is what makes me really suspicious that
Speaker 3: this is basically a pitch, a sales pitch, and one
Speaker 3: of his hot buttons is that he is totally wrapped
Speaker 3: around the axle. That Operation Warp Speed and the mRNA
Speaker 3: vaccines were among his greatest accomplishments. And furthermore, his predecessor,
Speaker 3: Joe Biden, has had two rounds of fail on cancer moonshot.
Speaker 3: Remember there was the cancer moonshot when he was v
Speaker 3: after his son died, and then there was cancer moonshot
Speaker 3: when he was president and you know, rim shot. What
Speaker 3: we got to show for it pretty much nothing. So
Speaker 3: this is another opportunity to poke Joe Biden in the
Speaker 3: eye and to show that Donald Trump can do it better, faster, cheaper.
Speaker 3: So Ellis gets up there and as I see the dynamics,
Speaker 3: Donald Trump is sitting off to the side, and alst
Speaker 3: does something like he says yeah, but wait. He kind
Speaker 3: of makes a break with the pitch, and then he
Speaker 3: enters into the pitch of how is this going to
Speaker 3: transform your life? What is this going to enable? Okay,
Speaker 3: and then he goes down the rabbit hole of this
Speaker 3: pitch about personalized cancer genetic vaccines that has been circulated
Speaker 3: in Boston and La Joia and San Francisco for at
Speaker 3: least twenty years, okay. And fortunately we did a little
Speaker 3: briefing interview privately for Bobby thinking that this might come up,
Speaker 3: and they brought in a number of people that were
Speaker 3: in the historically in the cancer vaccine space personalized cancer vaccines,
Speaker 3: as well as myself and some others, and there was
Speaker 3: widespread consensus that what Larry as I put in the substack,
Speaker 3: what Larry was pitching was absolutely obsolete, disproven, junk science.
Speaker 3: He was spinning a story that doesn't isn't aligned with
Speaker 3: our current understanding of cancer imanology. So this logic of
Speaker 3: personalized cancer vaccines has been out there for a long time.
Speaker 3: When I was an undergraduate, my mentor Murray Gardner, who
Speaker 3: actually created the cancer center at not U c l
Speaker 3: a USC. He created the USC Cancer Center. He was
Speaker 3: a you know, bigt at National Cancer Institute. He basically
Speaker 3: was shipped out to the West Coast by NCI to
Speaker 3: start cancer capabilities as a satellite of the NCI. He was,
Speaker 3: he was connected and back in the day post World
Speaker 3: War Two, he's tell the story that there were I'm
Speaker 3: gonna this is gonna get a little explicit, uh star
Speaker 3: stars from Hollywood male stars would come to the clinic
Speaker 3: with rectro cancer. Uh, and you know this is the
Speaker 3: gay community, and they would excize those tumors, grind them
Speaker 3: up with adjuvants and reinject, reinject them to these young
Speaker 3: male stars and in a subset of cases, the tumor
Speaker 3: would would disappear. So that's an early example of a
Speaker 3: personalized cancer vack scene. At the most simple level, they
Speaker 3: were using adjuvants, you know, stuff that you would never
Speaker 3: get through the FDA these days. You would never get
Speaker 3: that through the FDA. You would never get it through
Speaker 3: the I RBS and the approval process. But that was then.
Speaker 3: That was before the whole program of searching for the
Speaker 3: bi like basis, biologic basis of cancer, in which they
Speaker 3: investigated galls on trees for viruses, and they just went
Speaker 3: on and on and on all through the sixties. So
Speaker 3: this has got a long history of some partial winds,
Speaker 3: some little teasing suggestions. But about a decade decad and
Speaker 3: a half ago, there was a whole lot of excitement
Speaker 3: because it looked like melanoma might be the thing for
Speaker 3: both humans and particularly in veterinary cases. So dogs get
Speaker 3: melanoma horses get melanoma. It was a big deal at
Speaker 3: uc Davis, and they would make personalized melanoma vaccines as
Speaker 3: well as general genetic melanima vaccines, and they could use
Speaker 3: all kinds of gene therapy based technologies to do this,
Speaker 3: or you could manufacture the protein or use peptides as
Speaker 3: a bunch of different ways to skin the cat. And
Speaker 3: the initial phase one studies look good, and then it
Speaker 3: got into larger studies and as often happens, the air
Speaker 3: went out of the tires and we don't have any
Speaker 3: melanoma vaccines right now because it didn't work. And that
Speaker 3: was the best case. So it's turned out the real
Speaker 3: problem with cancer is the evolution of cancers to evade
Speaker 3: immune surveillance, and that turns out to be a real
Speaker 3: hard problem. Now, if Larry had talked to somebody who
Speaker 3: actually does this stuff for a living, he probably would
Speaker 3: have been told no, no, no, no, no, no, don't let's
Speaker 3: leave that away, assuming he was acting with integrity. What
Speaker 3: AI could be used for effectively is to try to
Speaker 3: help in the health space and the cancer space to
Speaker 3: try to help sort out the complexity of the interaction
Speaker 3: between evolution of cancers and the immune system and immune surveillance.
Speaker 3: That would be a good application. Another good application, because
Speaker 3: AI is all about big data, would be to sort
Speaker 3: out associations, help identify associations between environmental toxins, food added toive,
Speaker 3: et cetera. And you know, name your spectrum of diseases.
Speaker 3: That would be a great application for a super AI capability.
Speaker 3: But this one that Larry pitched of personalized cancer vaccines
Speaker 3: with a forty eight hour turnaround that could lead to
Speaker 3: generalized cancer vaccines, seemed to be do what he was
Speaker 3: saying to my ear and by the way, we're going
Speaker 3: to use this cool new tech mRNA vaccines and we're
Speaker 3: gonna have robots build the mRNA vaccines in forty eight hours.
Speaker 3: That was just a pitch to the naive. And I'm
Speaker 3: afraid that person that was being pitched was Donald Trump
Speaker 3: because it hit it has hit his hot buttons. And
Speaker 3: I think it was duplicitous. I think it showed complete
Speaker 3: lack of transparency and integrity. It was off the cuff,
Speaker 3: entirely inappropriate for day two of a presidency. And like Elon,
Speaker 3: I don't trust these people as far as I could
Speaker 3: throw them. And by the way, way I happened to
Speaker 3: know that the head biostatistician for Oracle, Bill Dumachale, was
Speaker 3: deeply involved in the initial detection of the myocarditis and
Speaker 3: many of the other adverse events associated with the mRNA product.
Speaker 3: But Larry is totally convinced that the mRNA tech is
Speaker 3: totally cool and super vast and fantastic and safe and effective.
Speaker 3: At the root of this is that what Larry pitched
Speaker 3: was the old, failed moderna business plan, and Maderna was
Speaker 3: pretty much on the doorstep of being belly up financially
Speaker 3: with multiple failures in its attempt to develop answer vaccines
Speaker 3: using mRNA technology, which by the way, was what the
Speaker 3: initial focus was of Katy Kurico and Drew Weisman wasn't
Speaker 3: infectious disease vaccines. So he's pitching a not just an
Speaker 3: out a business plan, but an outdated failed business plan, right,
Speaker 3: And it makes me wonder whether he has, let's say,
Speaker 3: gently an equity position in Maderna.
Speaker 1: Fair that's the way you got to look at it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Now let's look a little bit more into general
Speaker 3: AI and transhumanism. I think that transhumanism is very analogous
Speaker 3: that whole logic that has been built up as a
Speaker 3: house of cards by what I refer to as aging
Speaker 3: tech bros that are uber wealthy, specifically aging tech bros
Speaker 3: that are uber wealthy and are godless. They're facing their mortality.
Speaker 3: They've lived in their own little bubble of sycophans and
Speaker 3: boot liquors and you know all of that. And you know, Ellis,
Speaker 3: I'll be surprised if he makes it two hundred. It'll
Speaker 3: be a sign of divine intervention or something, or or
Speaker 3: the efficacy of certain blood products. But he's on the
Speaker 3: doorstep at eighty. And the logic is that they he
Speaker 3: and Bill Gates is another one, and these aging elite,
Speaker 3: and of course they brought in the younger ones and
Speaker 3: they're all enthusiastic about that they're getting paid for it.
Speaker 3: But at the core of it is this aging tech
Speaker 3: boru elite that is facing their own mortality and are
Speaker 3: sitting on mountains of cache. And so the idea is
Speaker 3: that they can upload their consciousness, their avatar, onto this
Speaker 3: new digital world and live forever. And this will be
Speaker 3: this this is here's the socket with elon. This will
Speaker 3: enable this next evolutionary step of human beings to explore
Speaker 3: the universe because we will be coupled from problems associated
Speaker 3: with acceleration, deceleration, food supply, you know, oxygen, all those
Speaker 3: things that just create all kinds of weight problems for
Speaker 3: interstellar exploration, not to mention our lifespans. So we won't
Speaker 3: have to solve the problem of cryogenic storage. We'll just
Speaker 3: all upload our avatar a consciousness onto the AI and
Speaker 3: it will live forever. There's been a whole nother cast
Speaker 3: of science fiction around what that world would be like.
Speaker 3: This is every dystopian novel or movie. Yeah, they're all
Speaker 3: in it. And I think there's the reason why it.
Speaker 3: You know, those dystopian novels are pression is because this
Speaker 3: is stuff that people have been thinking about and talking about.
Speaker 3: So I think these people have basically created a new
Speaker 3: version of You remember back in the day when Walt
Speaker 3: Disney died, that time frame, the rich and famous would
Speaker 3: have their heads cryogenetically preserved, thinking that the technology would
Speaker 3: develop that they could be unfrozen and reattached to a cadaver.
Speaker 3: You know, this is this goes back to Frankenstein, right right,
Speaker 3: and uh, they would they would they would also live forever.
Speaker 3: So that was that was that version. Of course, it
Speaker 3: goes all the way back to biblical parables that the
Speaker 3: quest for immortality has been the weakness of man through
Speaker 3: time memorial.
Speaker 1: So the agenda then stargate, you have an agenda of
Speaker 1: trans transhumanism and then driving AI autonomous general AI No,
Speaker 1: no way, general autonomous AI. Correct, Yeah, and being sold
Speaker 1: as you know, to your point, the pitch has to
Speaker 1: be who wants it? And how many people are going
Speaker 1: to want it? Hey, who doesn't want a cancer vaccine?
Speaker 1: All right? Right, personalized because we've learned we're all different,
Speaker 1: and we've learned that we're going to react to different things.
Speaker 3: Never never mind the huge six figure cost. It's going
Speaker 3: to kick you. You know, we're already draining the bank
Speaker 3: accounts of the elderly.
Speaker 1: And that was my next question because was I was
Speaker 1: watching the press conference, I was like, where is this
Speaker 1: money coming from?
Speaker 3: So that's it.
Speaker 1: That's a huge point, I think for a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But I was actually insulted by that whole press conference
Speaker 1: because it just presupposed that I've learned nothing over the
Speaker 1: last five years, let alone the last one.
Speaker 3: Okay, so here's here's another angle on this. Uh and
Speaker 3: and a lot of you know, I tweeted this out
Speaker 3: a week or two ago, and and a lot of
Speaker 3: people kind of said, yep, I agree if you want
Speaker 3: to get into a nefarious explanation, as if we aren't
Speaker 3: already nefarious enough, so let's go full on conspiracy, because
Speaker 3: why not if you were intending to decap President Trump,
Speaker 3: you might want to deploy a strategy that he would
Speaker 3: endorse naively, but which would split off a big part
Speaker 3: of his base. Let's call him the Kennedy voters. Because
Speaker 3: that's exactly what happened. If that had been the intention,
Speaker 3: they couldn't have done it any better, and it resulted
Speaker 3: in a you know, the whole Make America Healthy Again
Speaker 3: cohort questioning having buyer's regret, and that's still unresolved, and
Speaker 3: and you know, it's it's a fault. There's some fundamental
Speaker 3: fault lines in how the new administration is being set up.
Speaker 3: If you think about it. Bobby wants more regulation in
Speaker 3: drugs and vaccines and USDA health supplements and UH environmental
Speaker 3: toxins and additives, et cetera. Elon wants less regulation. Doge
Speaker 3: is all about streamlining and cutting regulation, and Trump is
Speaker 3: about cutting regulation. So that's one of the key fault
Speaker 3: lines here, and I don't know how it's gonna get resolved,
Speaker 3: and it's gonna we're gonna kind of see that. We're
Speaker 3: gonna get a pre read about how this is gonna
Speaker 3: play as we look at the second tier appointments that
Speaker 3: are gonna come down in HHS, the ones that aren't
Speaker 3: necessarily going to require congressional approval. If they keep Peter
Speaker 3: Marx in as head of Sieber. Peter Marx together with
Speaker 3: Bob Cadillac at ASPER in the first Trump administration being
Speaker 3: the originators of Operation Warp Speed and Marx sitting as
Speaker 3: head of Center for Biologic Evaluation and Research within the FDA,
Speaker 3: is you know, being a major defense. He's basically block
Speaker 3: and tackled in all kinds of ways for the m
Speaker 3: R and A products, denying the DNA contamination problem and
Speaker 3: the consequences, et cetera. If Peter Marks remains in there,
Speaker 3: that's a clear indication that Trump at all are going
Speaker 3: to continue to push ows. So we're going to have
Speaker 3: some real downstream data points that we can use to
Speaker 3: kind of infer where things are going. And remember Trump
Speaker 3: is as transformational as he's being, He's a one term president.
Speaker 3: He's a named duck already. So is jd Vance, you know,
Speaker 3: going to be the successor? Or who is and what's
Speaker 3: going to come down? I know that I'm confident that
Speaker 3: the political reality the next time we have a presidential
Speaker 3: election is going to be radically different from the current.
Speaker 3: I think the midterm landscape is going to be radically different. Yes,
Speaker 3: I think that's the one thing we can count on.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, indeed, the uh Well, I have heard from
Speaker 1: folks and interviewed a few folks who offline told me,
Speaker 1: and this was a year and a half ago, that
Speaker 1: teams were assembled, lawyers were assembled, they were getting things
Speaker 1: ready to go on day one, and that Trump has
Speaker 1: much better people around him than he did the first time.
Speaker 1: Now that was a general, a general statement, but you know,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that's true. And it's an interesting The whole
Speaker 1: AI thing terrifies me with the transhuman element attached it.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense to me, because there are
Speaker 1: worse things than dying in my mind, if you know
Speaker 1: where you're going, certainly that's the case. I don't understand
Speaker 1: the ego that it would take for me, This.
Speaker 3: Is deeply narcissistic. Yes, yes, just to explore, just for
Speaker 3: a moment, the imagine a world in which, because we're
Speaker 3: kind of already living in it, a world in which
Speaker 3: you have a hyper wealthy elite that is able to
Speaker 3: extend their life span to one hundred and twenty years
Speaker 3: something like that. Okay, what they will do is we've
Speaker 3: seen with Bill Gates and these other oligarchs, is they
Speaker 3: will accumulate resources to a shocking extent because they'll have
Speaker 3: the benefit of time, plus they're accumulated resources that they
Speaker 3: have already, So you'll end up with a world in
Speaker 3: which you'll have kind of the dispossessed youth and useless eaters,
Speaker 3: the average Joe, and then you'll have this hyper wealthy,
Speaker 3: extremely long life span oligarchy that will act as a
Speaker 3: predatory cast, much as we've seen happen with the wef
Speaker 3: think Klaus Schwab. Plus he's got another four years tacked
Speaker 3: on the end of his lifespan. So there's a reason
Speaker 3: why in a natural world we have renewal. The birth
Speaker 3: and death cycle is necessary to enable change and adaptation
Speaker 3: and innovation and all those kinds of things. These folks,
Speaker 3: just like we've seen as there, you know, this is
Speaker 3: we're basically living in a world dominated still by the
Speaker 3: first wave of the Baby boom and their biases, their wealth,
Speaker 3: their interests, and you know, as they say, it's Bill
Speaker 3: Gates world. We're just living in it. That future, and
Speaker 3: it whether or not we transition to some machine intelligence
Speaker 3: next version of human evolution, that kind of a world
Speaker 3: will destroy the human race in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, indeed, for sure that all sounds fascinating and terrifying,
Speaker 1: doctor Malone. But I appreciate you being with us today
Speaker 1: to help us walk that out and give us some
Speaker 1: context behind the behind the facade. You know, that's what
Speaker 1: that's what we face every day, and if nothing else,
Speaker 1: over the last five years, I think a lot more
Speaker 1: people are learning to seek the facade right, to find
Speaker 1: the agenda behind things like Stargate. Yeah, and I can't
Speaker 1: thank you enough for being with us today, and hope
Speaker 1: you'll come back soon, and until then, godspeed and have
Speaker 1: a good one. Okay, Well, that all seemed terrible. Look, guys,
Speaker 1: lots of great things happening as well, But this is
Speaker 1: all part of it.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Just because someone we liked won an election doesn't mean
Speaker 1: there aren't going to be any issues that's how we
Speaker 1: got here. Too many people voted for a letter behind
Speaker 1: a name or a name that was familiar, and then
Speaker 1: checked out and held no one accountable and didn't hold
Speaker 1: them to their oath. That's how we got here. So
Speaker 1: we have to dive into stuff like this and learn
Speaker 1: to see the facade. And there are a few ways
Speaker 1: to do that. I think doctor Malone highlighted them, follow
Speaker 1: the money and follow the agenda. At a lot of
Speaker 1: times those are the same thing. But this transhumanism stuff
Speaker 1: is fu bar big time. So we'll continue to be aware.
Speaker 1: We'll continue to face these things head on, learn about them,
Speaker 1: learn to articulate the position, and defend our position. That's
Speaker 1: just how we're going to have to roll if we're
Speaker 1: going to stop the bleeding. I don't even need more
Speaker 1: than that. Anything more than that is a bonus. But
Speaker 1: we need to stop the bleeding, and then we need
Speaker 1: to teach our younger generations perhaps how to turn things around. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone for listening today. Thank you
Speaker 1: as always to magic Man Joe Stregger. Until next time,
Speaker 1: who will stand at either hand and keep the bridge
Speaker 1: with me, Have a great day.