WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.879 Hey everybody, and welcome to Everything's Political. I'm your host, 2 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:07.440 Taya Shoemake. You can also find us online at Everything's 3 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:13.560 Political dot substack dot com. Shout out to Magicman, Joe Strecker, 4 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:36.320 the Vincent Damon Fernier of podcast producers, Nice Jesus, that's right, 5 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:41.719 the Godfather of shock rock. You probably know him better 6 00:00:41.759 --> 00:00:46.200 by his stage name Alice Cooper, who was born on 7 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:50.399 this day in Detroit, Rock City, Michigan, in are you 8 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:50.880 ready for this? 9 00:00:51.000 --> 00:00:59.920 Joe nineteen forty eight. Wow, Alice Cooper is seventy six 10 00:01:00.200 --> 00:01:03.159 years old. That just puts a great big smile on 11 00:01:03.240 --> 00:01:03.719 my face. 12 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:04.480 I love it. 13 00:01:05.319 --> 00:01:08.519 Which you may not know about Alice Cooper or Vincent 14 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:11.040 if you'd like to call him that is that he 15 00:01:11.159 --> 00:01:16.120 is an unapologetic Christian and credits Almighty God in the 16 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:21.159 person of Jesus Christ for healing him of his addiction 17 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:26.840 to drugs and alcohol. And in an interview that I saw, 18 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:30.680 he said that he was praying about it because he thought, Wow, 19 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:34.159 now I can't be Alice Cooper anymore. And he said 20 00:01:34.159 --> 00:01:36.280 the sense that he got was no, no, no, no, go 21 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:39.599 be Alice Cooper. I gave you that for him just 22 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:45.760 follow me and not the trappings of the world. And 23 00:01:45.799 --> 00:01:49.079 he did. He's been sober for like forty some years, 24 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.120 forty five years, it's been married for forty nine years. 25 00:01:52.319 --> 00:01:56.200 God bless his wife. And so I love this example 26 00:01:56.840 --> 00:02:02.200 because God put him squarely in the camp of the Philistines, 27 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:06.959 and he encourages young people through his foundation of solid rock. 28 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:11.360 It helps at risk teens and children, shares the gospel 29 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:14.879 wherever he goes in rock and roll, and there's a 30 00:02:14.919 --> 00:02:18.879 portion of that to which I can relate being put 31 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:23.240 in the camp of the Philistines, where you are surrounded 32 00:02:24.120 --> 00:02:29.479 at every side, it seems by the enemy, and sometimes 33 00:02:29.479 --> 00:02:31.560 you feel like a voice crying in the wilderness. But 34 00:02:31.680 --> 00:02:35.000 you have to trudge on because that's what we're called 35 00:02:35.039 --> 00:02:38.800 to do. And so I appreciate Uncle Alice, and I 36 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:42.919 appreciate being alive when we're probably going to walk through 37 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:45.520 some adversity, if we're going to get to the other 38 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:49.400 side of what ails this country. But there is a 39 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:52.360 new sheriff in town jail, and in the words of 40 00:02:52.439 --> 00:03:20.560 Uncle Alice, it's no more mister Niskota. Okay with us 41 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:25.240 today is another listener favorite. We have been so blessed lately, 42 00:03:26.120 --> 00:03:29.599 and you all know him. I don't need to go 43 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:35.680 through his extensive credential list in the biological sciences and medicine, 44 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:38.919 but I will mention that he is also a best 45 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:42.680 selling author of one of my favorites, Lies my Government 46 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:45.800 told me, and a new book or newer book that 47 00:03:45.879 --> 00:03:49.879 he wrote with his wife, doctor Jill Glaspul Malone cy 48 00:03:50.000 --> 00:03:54.759 War enforcing the New World Order, and he's here, hopefully 49 00:03:54.759 --> 00:03:57.080 to help us flesh out some of the events of 50 00:03:57.120 --> 00:04:00.520 the last couple of weeks. He is doctor Robert Malone, 51 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:03.599 Doctor Malone, welcome back and thanks for being here. 52 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:05.120 Thanks a lot for having me on. 53 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:08.639 Okay, I've been dying for this interview for a long time, 54 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:11.360 since well for two weeks. If you would talk about 55 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:15.599 Stargate and I'll just start with this. I know Trump 56 00:04:15.639 --> 00:04:19.600 has a blind spot with the mRNA technology, but as 57 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:22.600 I was watching Larry Ellison and I know, you know 58 00:04:22.680 --> 00:04:24.920 Sam Altman is I think Larry Ellison might be the 59 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:28.199 bank or part of it. And Sam Altman of course 60 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.480 is the open AI guy. How do these tech bros 61 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:34.160 even get an audience at this point? 62 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:39.000 So insiders that I know because of the circles, I 63 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:41.800 find myself in these days have told me that Ellison 64 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:45.600 was in the administration quite a bit. In Trump one, 65 00:04:45.920 --> 00:04:48.920 He's got a long standing in a personal relationship with Trump. 66 00:04:49.160 --> 00:04:51.560 I don't know about Altman is kind of like the 67 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:54.680 new kid that's still wet behind the ears and doesn't 68 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:57.759 really know how to behave on the big stage. But 69 00:04:58.560 --> 00:05:02.199 Ellison does. And and so here's my take on this. 70 00:05:03.160 --> 00:05:08.079 The issue at hand was really stargate to my eyes 71 00:05:08.160 --> 00:05:13.279 when I watched that pressor. What I see is Trump 72 00:05:13.439 --> 00:05:16.920 off at the side, Ellison kind of hogging the stage 73 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:22.839 and the mic, and Ellison kind of interjecting or injecting 74 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:28.120 a narrative of his own volition. I don't think that 75 00:05:28.399 --> 00:05:33.879 the mRNA application was pre vetted by Susie Wilds hard 76 00:05:33.920 --> 00:05:36.560 for me to imagine that was the case, especially on 77 00:05:36.680 --> 00:05:39.120 day two of the administration, talk about shooting yourself in 78 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:41.720 the foot, of all the things they needed to talk about. 79 00:05:42.040 --> 00:05:44.680 And you'll notice there has not been a squeak since. 80 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:50.120 So I suspect that Susie stepped in and said, guys, 81 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:56.240 this is not helping. To my analysis, the subtext to 82 00:05:56.399 --> 00:06:02.120 all of this is transhumanism, which Trump is a fan of. 83 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:06.839 I'm told Ellison is absolutely a fan of Altman is 84 00:06:06.879 --> 00:06:08.720 apparently a fan of I mean, look at Ellison, what 85 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:12.319 is he eighty years old? He's got this smooth, shiny skin. 86 00:06:12.920 --> 00:06:17.240 He's doing everything he can. I could only speculate about 87 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:22.839 what blood products he's taking whatever to maintain his youthful vigor, 88 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.360 so to speak. I'm sure he's on. Let's give him 89 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:29.079 the benefit of the doubt that he's getting natural hormone 90 00:06:29.120 --> 00:06:35.000 supplements and taking all his vitamins and whatever else he 91 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:41.600 thinks he needs to preserve his appearance and health at 92 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:46.079 age eighty. I think that Stargate is a trojan horse. 93 00:06:47.079 --> 00:06:49.680 So just to kind of put a couple of little 94 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:55.160 data points in for folks, Stargate is basically a massive 95 00:06:55.279 --> 00:07:00.399 server farm is going to have, you know, be capitalized 96 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:05.439 aspirationally at half a trillion dollars, of which if you 97 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:09.399 listen to Musk back when this was all heated, Musk 98 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.480 was saying they've only raised ten billion, only ten billion, 99 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.680 So ten billion seems like a lot, but relative to 100 00:07:15.759 --> 00:07:19.319 five hundred billion, not so much. So these things are 101 00:07:19.399 --> 00:07:25.959 massively expensive, and the projected cost of energy to operate 102 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:32.319 it is supposedly the equivalent of the entire natural gas 103 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:37.399 consumption of the state of Texas. So massive energy requirements 104 00:07:37.399 --> 00:07:41.839 for all these server farms, and what's being anticipated. I 105 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:47.399 live here in Virginia, Madison, Virginia, and the town just 106 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:51.079 north of US towards DC is called Culpeper. Culpeper's an 107 00:07:51.079 --> 00:07:53.519 interesting place because it's got a lot of open land 108 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:57.879 and it's basically they hung out the shingle says dear developer, 109 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:00.439 please come here at the same time, and they hung 110 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:04.639 out the shingle that says dear illegal immigrants, please come here. 111 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:08.560 And we've had a huge, huge influx. All you got 112 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:10.319 to do is go to Walmart on the right time 113 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:17.120 of the week. So Culpeper has a massive facility that's 114 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:23.160 mostly underground. Just to say that is ostensibly the film 115 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:27.639 archives of the National Library of Medicine, but it goes 116 00:08:27.639 --> 00:08:31.439 eight floors down. I don't think they need that for 117 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:36.200 film archives. So adjacent to that, they're now building out 118 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:43.399 another massive Amazon server complex. And remember Amazon has THEDD 119 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:48.840 contract for cloud services, and you know all kinds of 120 00:08:48.840 --> 00:08:53.039 sweetheart deals going around, but they won that against Microsoft, 121 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:58.000 so it was pick your poison. What's being envisioned for 122 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:03.279 these is because they all require huge, huge amounts of electricity. 123 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:07.159 You'll remember back in the matrix that electricity was generated 124 00:09:07.159 --> 00:09:11.200 by human beings in theory, but in reality, the anticipation 125 00:09:11.440 --> 00:09:15.000 is going to be many nuclear power plants, something that 126 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:18.360 Bill Gates of course has invested in that are cooled 127 00:09:19.080 --> 00:09:26.759 using basically a salt, liquefied salt that liquefies it at 128 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:29.600 very high temperature. That's a lot more efficient for cooling 129 00:09:29.720 --> 00:09:34.000 than water. So that's the key technological breakthrough is a 130 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:38.720 new cooling capability for these many plants that would be 131 00:09:38.879 --> 00:09:41.279 sighted all over the country as opposed to three mile 132 00:09:41.360 --> 00:09:44.159 Island that would serve all of the Northeast. It'll have 133 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:49.039 little decentralized nuclear power plants in your backyard, better that, 134 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:52.279 I guess, than coal fired power with all the mercury. 135 00:09:52.320 --> 00:09:58.720 So that's another pick you're poison. So this Stargate Enterprise 136 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:04.840 was and it's already had a major setback. The Stargate 137 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:12.480 Enterprise was envisioned to enable next generation artificial intelligence capabilities. 138 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:16.759 Of course, that has all kinds of military consequences, and 139 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:21.279 in particular it relates to an agenda item for mister 140 00:10:21.360 --> 00:10:27.799 Trump relating to American competitiveness, industrial competitiveness. It's believed that 141 00:10:28.879 --> 00:10:33.960 becoming a global superpower in artificial intelligence is going to 142 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:38.519 be necessary to maintain a twenty first century industrial base, 143 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:43.919 as well as the twenty first century warfare capabilities. Call 144 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:47.200 it what it is and stop calling it defense. And 145 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:50.679 that twenty first century warfare capability, by the way, is 146 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:54.879 going to be totally transformational, and a lot of our 147 00:10:55.399 --> 00:11:01.240 twentieth century infrastructure of carriers, tanks, big heart where big 148 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:09.799 armies is in transition now destroyers everything because of drone technology, 149 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.000 and the new face of warfare is going to be 150 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:18.840 probably artificial intelligence autonomously powered drones. So the drones no 151 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:22.080 longer have to have a hot uplink to the facility 152 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:24.840 in North Dakota where you have a bunch of kids 153 00:11:24.879 --> 00:11:30.080 sitting around with joysticks firing off whatever the latest missile 154 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:34.799 technology is against our you, whoever is on the president's 155 00:11:34.879 --> 00:11:37.879 hit list. That's kind of the where all of this 156 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:42.279 is going. And of course battle drones, not just flying 157 00:11:42.320 --> 00:11:48.399 battle drones, but basically robots like the Boston Technology Group 158 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:52.240 with the robot dogs, et cetera. And of course the 159 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.440 twenty first century soldier or super soldier, where they're going 160 00:11:55.519 --> 00:11:58.679 to basically wear a suit of armor that will augment 161 00:11:58.759 --> 00:12:03.120 all their capabilities like you saw in Avatar. Remember the 162 00:12:03.159 --> 00:12:06.879 battle dress in Avatar's going to kind of be like that. 163 00:12:07.919 --> 00:12:14.000 So getting back to Stargate, you can appreciate that Donald 164 00:12:14.000 --> 00:12:18.279 Trump as his agenda is to transform the American economy, 165 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:22.600 and if you look at his overall agenda and the 166 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:26.759 executive orders, a large number of them cluster around improving 167 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:33.200 American competitiveness and transform the American economy, carrying down the debt, 168 00:12:34.039 --> 00:12:37.799 all of that, and clearly he's doing I think the 169 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:44.000 proper term is a Jacksonian approach to US foreign policy. 170 00:12:44.480 --> 00:12:48.039 You know, unfortunately, akin to Jackson's positions with the Native 171 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:54.000 American Indians that was just unapologetic in your face, get 172 00:12:54.039 --> 00:12:56.120 out of my way or you're going to die. And 173 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:59.559 a lot of that's in the case of Trump, seems 174 00:12:59.600 --> 00:13:04.120 to be partially negotiating strategy. And you saw in the 175 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:08.679 newspapers this morning or whatever you whatever you read the 176 00:13:09.200 --> 00:13:11.559 deals that are being struck. I think it's El Salvador 177 00:13:11.720 --> 00:13:15.360 that we're going to basically with Marco Rubio, export our 178 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:19.799 prisoners down there, Sophie for service, Mega prisons and park 179 00:13:19.840 --> 00:13:22.759 them down there because they're going to be more cost effective. 180 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:28.200 And also they're going to take the illegalaliens for which 181 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:34.200 we do not have documentation about their citizenship because they 182 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:36.440 were all told to throw away their papers when they 183 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:42.399 came across the US border by the NGOs. So that's 184 00:13:42.440 --> 00:13:44.799 kind of a bigger picture. And then in the case 185 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:51.320 of Stargate, Trump clearly wants advanced artificial intelligence, and Larry 186 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:56.480 and Sam and company are asserting that they will deliver 187 00:13:56.639 --> 00:14:02.639 that for half trillion dollars and are looking for I'm 188 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:06.200 not clear how much federal money they're looking for or 189 00:14:06.240 --> 00:14:10.240 how much they're just looking for kind of external validation. 190 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:17.240 But obviously Altman has gotten crossways with Musk because Musk 191 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:20.600 dumped money in open source AI and then he took 192 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:26.639 it private. So Musk justifiably feels burned, and so everything 193 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:28.600 he says has to be seen through the filter of 194 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:33.600 his own pissed off point of view. And then along 195 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:40.360 comes the open AI dump from China, and it appears 196 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:43.840 that China has from a little ike and glean China 197 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:47.759 has built into this AI in addition to their own bias, 198 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:52.879 because of course, an AI in this generation of artificial 199 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:57.120 intelligence the current generation of artificial intelligence, the AI is 200 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:02.080 basically very dependent on machine learning, and machine learning is 201 00:15:02.200 --> 00:15:06.759 very dependent on the data that it's fed for generating 202 00:15:06.759 --> 00:15:10.440 its algorithms and then for the validation data set. 203 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:15.080 And that's always the precariousness of AI. Right who's training. 204 00:15:15.039 --> 00:15:20.039 Currently current generator AI? Okay, current generation II is based 205 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:25.840 on machine learning, which typically involves taking some large data 206 00:15:25.879 --> 00:15:31.960 set and splitting it in some way, training on one 207 00:15:32.200 --> 00:15:35.000 part of that data set, training the AI on the 208 00:15:35.080 --> 00:15:38.120 data set, and then using the other part of the 209 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:42.759 randomly split data set to do validation tests to make 210 00:15:42.799 --> 00:15:46.120 sure that the AI has learned the right things, because 211 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:52.440 these things are notoriously prone to making connections between things 212 00:15:52.519 --> 00:16:00.320 that aren't politically acceptable or spurious as artifacts. While these 213 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:03.000 filters have to be built in, and apparently the Chinese 214 00:16:03.200 --> 00:16:10.159 have really reduce the number of secondary algorithms that are 215 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.720 applied to ensure the AI doesn't run off the tracks, 216 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:18.559 and also built it around their own data sets that 217 00:16:18.919 --> 00:16:22.879 reflect their own biases the season. So the consequence of 218 00:16:22.919 --> 00:16:30.000 having less algorithmic secondary checks on the output is that 219 00:16:30.000 --> 00:16:31.720 it runs a lot faster and it takes a lot 220 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:37.399 less power. So suddenly the Chinese solution looks like the 221 00:16:37.559 --> 00:16:42.240 ls Altman solution is overbuilt, right and doesn't require so 222 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:44.480 much power, So that's that's a glitch. 223 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:46.200 Or money, right, power or money. 224 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:51.159 So to my eyes, I think, given remember I said 225 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:57.720 that these guys are fundamentally transhumanists, I am concerned that, 226 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:01.519 as I mentioned, this is a Trojan horror and so 227 00:17:01.639 --> 00:17:03.879 the question is, what are you talking about Robert Trojan 228 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:05.839 Horse for what he just has nothing to do with 229 00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:11.440 little men in Soldier outfits Trojan Horse in the sense 230 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:14.000 that it is being sold for one purpose, but it's 231 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:19.599 actually intended for another purpose. And the intended purpose, I 232 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:25.880 believe is to enable the development of autonomous general AI 233 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:30.799 or the super brain, the machine SuperBrain. That's if you 234 00:17:30.880 --> 00:17:34.720 look at this facility and the infrastructure and what they're 235 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:39.279 talking about building in this looks like it would be 236 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:47.079 the portal for development or enablement of autonomous general AI 237 00:17:47.799 --> 00:17:53.440 machine intelligence, which is projected to be thousands of fold 238 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:58.000 in this next generation, thousands of fold more intelligent than 239 00:17:58.359 --> 00:18:02.519 the most intelligent human being in this world. That's being envisioned. 240 00:18:03.039 --> 00:18:08.599 Elon Musk is anticipating ability to deploy a home robot 241 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:11.039 that of course would do your cleaning and cooking for 242 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:14.160 you and free you up, just like the Washington washing 243 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:19.039 machine is freed you up from menial labor, and make 244 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:29.319 the homemaker even more autonomous from and less required to 245 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.400 do domestic chores, which will free them up to I 246 00:18:32.480 --> 00:18:36.799 don't know what. And in this new robot that Musk 247 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:40.200 is apparently building out as one of their I think 248 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:44.720 it's a Tesla project, they're anticipating a price point of 249 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:50.559 twenty thousand dollars. Okay, so the price of a Toyota basically, 250 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:52.440 because that's what it comes down to. You an entry 251 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:55.319 level Toyota, not a rev for what you know, goo 252 00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:59.759 good ones, but an entry level Toyota. You get to 253 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:03.240 have your own home robot, and that home robot will 254 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:07.519 have an installed artificial intelligence. So you'll have in your 255 00:19:07.599 --> 00:19:14.759 home a machine that has an IQ probably significantly higher 256 00:19:14.759 --> 00:19:18.440 than yours, even if we don't get to general autonomous 257 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.680 AI yet, but you'll have something that has an IQ 258 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:26.400 that that exceeds your own and the equivalent of multiple PhDs, 259 00:19:27.559 --> 00:19:30.400 so you know, and you're gonna have this thing doing 260 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:36.880 your laundry and vacuuming your floors maybe, so you know, 261 00:19:36.920 --> 00:19:39.799 this will become your general go to for everything in 262 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:41.960 fiction versions of what this looks like. 263 00:19:42.920 --> 00:19:46.000 Well, I'm thinking of Rosie from the Jetsons on steroids. 264 00:19:47.160 --> 00:19:51.480 That's that's I think the kindest and generalist version right 265 00:19:51.839 --> 00:19:56.079 of this future scenario. But it's one in Elon of course, 266 00:19:56.400 --> 00:20:03.880 with neurolink is in that same world of the tech 267 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:10.960 bros that envision this new transhuman reality. And let's let's 268 00:20:11.039 --> 00:20:17.599 just recap on that. Uh, transhumanism is envisioned to be 269 00:20:18.599 --> 00:20:22.160 the next stage and evolution of the human species and 270 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:27.920 to make biologic humans obsolete. If you don't buy into 271 00:20:28.000 --> 00:20:30.480 that version, and the transition, by the way, will be 272 00:20:30.519 --> 00:20:36.240 a neurolink type capability, and if you opt to not 273 00:20:37.400 --> 00:20:42.480 have the machine human interface implanted into your biologic self, 274 00:20:43.559 --> 00:20:46.720 then in this version I'm referring to the book Dark 275 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:52.960 Aon as a good read. It's a little deep and twisty, 276 00:20:53.039 --> 00:20:59.079 but not a very bright picture. So in this new world, 277 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:05.079 if you don't accept the transition state an implanted machine 278 00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:07.519 human interface so that you can directly interface with the 279 00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:13.880 machine world and their AIS and eventually their general autonomous AI, 280 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:20.079 you will be relegated to something akin to pets. You 281 00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:26.119 will be obsolete and have a little practical function because, 282 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:32.480 of course, in this version of Brave New World, what 283 00:21:32.519 --> 00:21:38.240 Mattias Desmond calls the bullshit jobs will become completely redundant. 284 00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:39.839 At the top of the list for those that are 285 00:21:39.839 --> 00:21:42.759 going to be made redundant, of course, or the computer coders. 286 00:21:43.960 --> 00:21:48.440 So hey, guys, wake up, you're building your own demise. Yes, 287 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:54.160 So that gets to the whole useless eaters logic. What 288 00:21:54.200 --> 00:21:56.960 are we going to do with all these surplus humans 289 00:21:57.519 --> 00:22:01.640 that are just consuming resources and energy that aren't really 290 00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:07.440 productively contributing to whatever this new society is? And I 291 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:11.039 think Stargate is the portal to that. That is, the 292 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:15.720 intention is to enable this next key step of a 293 00:22:15.880 --> 00:22:19.559 general autonomous artificial intelligence. But they're not telling us that. 294 00:22:20.640 --> 00:22:24.920 So what that thing was on day two of the presidency, 295 00:22:25.599 --> 00:22:28.960 to my eyes, having pitched business plans way too many 296 00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:32.000 times and rarely if ever having them had them funded 297 00:22:32.559 --> 00:22:39.160 to Boston and Silicon Valley, Sandhill Road and La Joya, 298 00:22:39.240 --> 00:22:43.640 Torrey Pines Road venture capital firms, is this was a 299 00:22:43.680 --> 00:22:47.640 pitch and the target of the pitch was Donald Trump, 300 00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:51.480 and to some extent the target of the pitch was 301 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:55.680 the American public. Okay, when you do a pitch, you're 302 00:22:55.680 --> 00:23:00.799 pitching some new technology platform. In your pitch, you got 303 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:03.880 to basically answer the question. There's some key questions that 304 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:06.960 you got to address. One is, well the dogs eat 305 00:23:06.960 --> 00:23:11.720 the dog food? Okay, I love that phrase from my 306 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:16.759 day's back dealing with investors. And another is what's your 307 00:23:17.079 --> 00:23:20.240 unique competitive advantage? So what is it that these guys 308 00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:24.400 would have that Elon Musk doesn't have, for example, So 309 00:23:24.440 --> 00:23:26.720 that's an important part of a pitch deck. And another 310 00:23:26.759 --> 00:23:30.400 part is kind of who cares? What are you going 311 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:34.680 to use it for? What is the killer app? Is 312 00:23:34.720 --> 00:23:37.839 off in the phrase what is the killer application that 313 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:42.319 everybody off the street, the guy on the street can say, Oh, 314 00:23:42.480 --> 00:23:45.720 that sounds great, I'd like to have that, you know, 315 00:23:45.759 --> 00:23:49.920 akin to the autonomous AI powered robot in your house. 316 00:23:49.960 --> 00:23:51.960 What's the killer app? Well, what's going to vacuum your 317 00:23:51.960 --> 00:23:55.000 carpet better than your room? It does, and it'll take 318 00:23:55.079 --> 00:23:58.599 care of your one year old along the way. So 319 00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:02.400 they're sitting there they are pitching this. They pitched it 320 00:24:02.440 --> 00:24:05.960 to Donald Trump. If you listen carefully, they've hit his 321 00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:09.839 hot buttons, which is what makes me really suspicious that 322 00:24:09.880 --> 00:24:13.440 this is basically a pitch, a sales pitch, and one 323 00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:16.519 of his hot buttons is that he is totally wrapped 324 00:24:16.519 --> 00:24:19.799 around the axle. That Operation Warp Speed and the mRNA 325 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:25.200 vaccines were among his greatest accomplishments. And furthermore, his predecessor, 326 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:32.079 Joe Biden, has had two rounds of fail on cancer moonshot. 327 00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:34.200 Remember there was the cancer moonshot when he was v 328 00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:37.960 after his son died, and then there was cancer moonshot 329 00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:43.240 when he was president and you know, rim shot. What 330 00:24:43.440 --> 00:24:47.519 we got to show for it pretty much nothing. So 331 00:24:48.640 --> 00:24:51.599 this is another opportunity to poke Joe Biden in the 332 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:56.880 eye and to show that Donald Trump can do it better, faster, cheaper. 333 00:24:57.480 --> 00:25:02.039 So Ellis gets up there and as I see the dynamics, 334 00:25:02.079 --> 00:25:05.880 Donald Trump is sitting off to the side, and alst 335 00:25:06.160 --> 00:25:08.720 does something like he says yeah, but wait. He kind 336 00:25:08.759 --> 00:25:13.039 of makes a break with the pitch, and then he 337 00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:16.200 enters into the pitch of how is this going to 338 00:25:16.200 --> 00:25:19.720 transform your life? What is this going to enable? Okay, 339 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:23.519 and then he goes down the rabbit hole of this 340 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:28.920 pitch about personalized cancer genetic vaccines that has been circulated 341 00:25:29.079 --> 00:25:33.160 in Boston and La Joia and San Francisco for at 342 00:25:33.279 --> 00:25:39.960 least twenty years, okay. And fortunately we did a little 343 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:45.960 briefing interview privately for Bobby thinking that this might come up, 344 00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:48.680 and they brought in a number of people that were 345 00:25:48.720 --> 00:25:53.480 in the historically in the cancer vaccine space personalized cancer vaccines, 346 00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.559 as well as myself and some others, and there was 347 00:25:56.640 --> 00:26:01.039 widespread consensus that what Larry as I put in the substack, 348 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:09.519 what Larry was pitching was absolutely obsolete, disproven, junk science. 349 00:26:10.359 --> 00:26:16.160 He was spinning a story that doesn't isn't aligned with 350 00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:20.599 our current understanding of cancer imanology. So this logic of 351 00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:23.680 personalized cancer vaccines has been out there for a long time. 352 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:27.240 When I was an undergraduate, my mentor Murray Gardner, who 353 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:32.000 actually created the cancer center at not U c l 354 00:26:32.079 --> 00:26:35.920 a USC. He created the USC Cancer Center. He was 355 00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:39.759 a you know, bigt at National Cancer Institute. He basically 356 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:43.480 was shipped out to the West Coast by NCI to 357 00:26:43.640 --> 00:26:48.599 start cancer capabilities as a satellite of the NCI. He was, 358 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:52.400 he was connected and back in the day post World 359 00:26:52.400 --> 00:26:57.160 War Two, he's tell the story that there were I'm 360 00:26:57.160 --> 00:27:02.039 gonna this is gonna get a little explicit, uh star 361 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:07.160 stars from Hollywood male stars would come to the clinic 362 00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:14.119 with rectro cancer. Uh, and you know this is the 363 00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:20.079 gay community, and they would excize those tumors, grind them 364 00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:24.759 up with adjuvants and reinject, reinject them to these young 365 00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:29.240 male stars and in a subset of cases, the tumor 366 00:27:29.279 --> 00:27:33.160 would would disappear. So that's an early example of a 367 00:27:33.240 --> 00:27:37.400 personalized cancer vack scene. At the most simple level, they 368 00:27:37.400 --> 00:27:39.920 were using adjuvants, you know, stuff that you would never 369 00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.039 get through the FDA these days. You would never get 370 00:27:42.079 --> 00:27:44.200 that through the FDA. You would never get it through 371 00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.920 the I RBS and the approval process. But that was then. 372 00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:53.319 That was before the whole program of searching for the 373 00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:56.799 bi like basis, biologic basis of cancer, in which they 374 00:27:56.839 --> 00:28:02.119 investigated galls on trees for viruses, and they just went 375 00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:04.759 on and on and on all through the sixties. So 376 00:28:05.880 --> 00:28:10.880 this has got a long history of some partial winds, 377 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:16.200 some little teasing suggestions. But about a decade decad and 378 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.279 a half ago, there was a whole lot of excitement 379 00:28:18.599 --> 00:28:22.400 because it looked like melanoma might be the thing for 380 00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:26.079 both humans and particularly in veterinary cases. So dogs get 381 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:28.559 melanoma horses get melanoma. It was a big deal at 382 00:28:28.640 --> 00:28:32.519 uc Davis, and they would make personalized melanoma vaccines as 383 00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:35.359 well as general genetic melanima vaccines, and they could use 384 00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:38.839 all kinds of gene therapy based technologies to do this, 385 00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:42.039 or you could manufacture the protein or use peptides as 386 00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:45.319 a bunch of different ways to skin the cat. And 387 00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.000 the initial phase one studies look good, and then it 388 00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:52.640 got into larger studies and as often happens, the air 389 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:56.319 went out of the tires and we don't have any 390 00:28:56.759 --> 00:29:01.039 melanoma vaccines right now because it didn't work. And that 391 00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:03.839 was the best case. So it's turned out the real 392 00:29:03.880 --> 00:29:09.160 problem with cancer is the evolution of cancers to evade 393 00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:12.440 immune surveillance, and that turns out to be a real 394 00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:17.119 hard problem. Now, if Larry had talked to somebody who 395 00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:20.440 actually does this stuff for a living, he probably would 396 00:29:20.440 --> 00:29:23.240 have been told no, no, no, no, no, no, don't let's 397 00:29:23.519 --> 00:29:29.119 leave that away, assuming he was acting with integrity. What 398 00:29:29.640 --> 00:29:33.240 AI could be used for effectively is to try to 399 00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:37.759 help in the health space and the cancer space to 400 00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:42.000 try to help sort out the complexity of the interaction 401 00:29:42.119 --> 00:29:47.079