Speaker 1: Good morning everybody. Corey Hughes Bloody History back again today.
Speaker 1: We're going to continue on with the David Ferry file,
Speaker 1: Section two. We're going to start off today with a
Speaker 1: memorandum Landry Ferry Cia March twenty eight, nineteen sixty seven
Speaker 1: to Jim Garrison, District Attorney from Andrew J. Scambra, Assistant
Speaker 1: District Attorney. Reference interview with Al Landry, March twenty third,
Speaker 1: sixty seven. The Al Landry story is very important. It
Speaker 1: goes to show a lot of the character that David
Speaker 1: Ferry actually represented. So here we go, let's kick it off.
Speaker 1: Mister Landry was born on January thirteenth, nineteen forty five,
Speaker 1: and is now twenty two years old. He stated to
Speaker 1: me that he first met Ferry when he was a
Speaker 1: member of the Lakefront CAAP. He said this was around
Speaker 1: late fifty eight or early fifty nine. He said Batista
Speaker 1: was still in power in Cuba, so he imagines it
Speaker 1: must have been late fifty eight. He says he was
Speaker 1: fourteen years old when he joined the CAAP and lived
Speaker 1: at five two two one Arts Street. He said that
Speaker 1: he first met Ferry about four months after he joined
Speaker 1: the Lakefront CAP. The CAAP used to hold meetings at
Speaker 1: the Lakefront Airport on Friday night and Sunday afternoon on
Speaker 1: a weekly basis. He said that it was at these
Speaker 1: meetings that he met Ferry. He said that sometime in
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty nine, after Castro had taken over in Cuba,
Speaker 1: Dave Ferry disappeared for about seven to nine weeks, and
Speaker 1: the next time he saw him was on a Saturday afternoon.
Speaker 1: He was at the CAAP meeting when Ferry came to
Speaker 1: the meeting with al Cheremi in Ferries fifty three. Tan
Speaker 1: Ford Sharemy was driving the car. As Ferry could not
Speaker 1: move around as he was apparently injured. Jeremy got out
Speaker 1: of the automobile and started moving all Fairies papers and
Speaker 1: files from the CAP building and began putting him in
Speaker 1: Ferry's automobile. It seems that Ferry had some misunderstanding with
Speaker 1: Colonel Morrell and Pat Prinz's mother, and as these two
Speaker 1: people sort of ran the Lakefront CAAP, it appeared that
Speaker 1: they had asked Ferry to resign. Ferry did resign from
Speaker 1: the Lakefront CAP and formed his own CAP group called
Speaker 1: the Falcons. He did this about five months after he
Speaker 1: resigned from Lakefront. This group actually came into existence in
Speaker 1: late nineteen fifty nine. It was shortly at this time
Speaker 1: that Landry said he ran away from home, which dated
Speaker 1: back to early nineteen sixty. Landry said that approximately one
Speaker 1: year later, while Ferry was living at three thirty one
Speaker 1: Atherton Drive, Ferry told him about the incident that occurred
Speaker 1: to him when he disappeared for about seven to nine weeks.
Speaker 1: Ferry mentioned this after he had a lively discussion with
Speaker 1: Landry in regards to his views concerning the Cuban situation
Speaker 1: that he and Arcocia Smith and some other Cuban friends
Speaker 1: would liberate Cuba from Castro. Landry told him that he
Speaker 1: had no idea that Ferry could liberate Cuba, and that
Speaker 1: he questioned his ability to do so. Ferry at this
Speaker 1: time told him of the incident which had occurred when
Speaker 1: he was away from the city for seven to nine weeks.
Speaker 1: Ferry said that a couple weeks prior to the time,
Speaker 1: when Landry had seen him in the car with cheering
Speaker 1: me at the airport removing his equipment, he and several
Speaker 1: other Cubans had been to Cuba in an effort to
Speaker 1: help the Cubans escape from Castro's prison. Ferry told him
Speaker 1: that during one of these visits to Cuba, he ran
Speaker 1: into some trouble and was attacked by a Castro soldier
Speaker 1: and was stabbed in the stomach. He showed Landry a
Speaker 1: scar across his stomach, approximately ten to fifteen inches long,
Speaker 1: which he said resulted from the stab wound. Ferry at
Speaker 1: this time told him he was working for the CIA
Speaker 1: rescuing Cubans out of Castro's prison in Cuba. He said
Speaker 1: he was called down to Miami and stayed there approximately
Speaker 1: one week in a hotel before he was contacted by
Speaker 1: the CIA men in Miami. He said that he attributed
Speaker 1: the delay in being contacted to the fact that the
Speaker 1: CIA wanted to test him to see if he was
Speaker 1: the type of person who told his business to anybody
Speaker 1: on the street. He said that a woman from the
Speaker 1: CIA was sent to his apartment and tried to get
Speaker 1: information from him about his activities with CIA, but that
Speaker 1: he did not tell her anything and it was after
Speaker 1: this test that he was actually contacted by the CIA
Speaker 1: people in Miami. He said that shortly thereafter, he in
Speaker 1: about nine Cubans flew down to a point close to Cuba,
Speaker 1: and they then got on rubber rafts and went into
Speaker 1: Cuba and rescued some prisoners out of the prison camps.
Speaker 1: He said it was during this incident that he was stabbed.
Speaker 1: The soldier who stabbed him was killed by some of
Speaker 1: the people in his party, and they carried him to
Speaker 1: safety with them. Landry says he can recall that during
Speaker 1: his relationship with Ferry, Ferry received long distance calls from Miami.
Speaker 1: In Cleveland. Ferry also told him that Arkacha Smith was
Speaker 1: the third man in line in the Cuban hierarchy when
Speaker 1: Cuba would be liberated. The number one man lived in Miami.
Speaker 1: Landry said that he can recall that at one time
Speaker 1: the number one man, whose name he can't remember at
Speaker 1: the moment, was supposed to make a trip down to
Speaker 1: New Orleans to see how the Cuban revolutionary Front was
Speaker 1: making out, and the planing was to come on, was
Speaker 1: hijacked and taken to Cuba. He said that Ferry then
Speaker 1: asked him if he would liked to make a trip
Speaker 1: down to Miami to pick up the number one man
Speaker 1: and fly him down to New Orleans in a private plane.
Speaker 1: Landry told him that he would go with him, but
Speaker 1: Ferry never did anything more to him about this. That
Speaker 1: never did mention anything more to him about this. Landry
Speaker 1: said that Ferry often told him that when Cuba will
Speaker 1: be liberated from Castro, he would be a very big
Speaker 1: man in Cuba, and he wanted Alandry to go and
Speaker 1: live with him in Cuba. He said they would live
Speaker 1: like kings because the people would always look at them
Speaker 1: like their savior. Ferry said that there were three branches
Speaker 1: working for the liberation of Cuba, one of Miami, one
Speaker 1: in New Orleans, and won in Texas. Landry said that
Speaker 1: after the Bay of Pigs, Ferry became annoyed with the
Speaker 1: CIA and often belittled the CIA and President Kennedy. He
Speaker 1: said the CIA in President Kennedy had screwed up the
Speaker 1: whole invasion and that they betrayed the Cuban people by
Speaker 1: refusing to send their air support that was promised. Landry
Speaker 1: said that Ferry had a blackboard in his apartment and
Speaker 1: he often drew on his own blackboard the actual plans
Speaker 1: for the invasion of Cuba, explaining what the Cubans were
Speaker 1: supposed to do and at what point the CIA was
Speaker 1: supposed to send the air support. Landry said he talked
Speaker 1: as if he knew all about the battle plans and
Speaker 1: the invasion. Ferry told him of how the boats got
Speaker 1: in touch with the CIA and requested the air support
Speaker 1: and the CIA and had Kennedy on the hotline, and
Speaker 1: how Kennedy was supposed to give the ok for air support.
Speaker 1: But he said that Kennedy and the CIA did not
Speaker 1: intervene like they said they would. The Cubans were promised
Speaker 1: by the CIA that when the time was right after
Speaker 1: some troops, right after some troops had already gotten on
Speaker 1: the island, they would furnish the air support. Landry said
Speaker 1: he can remember going to Arcata Smith's house on the
Speaker 1: lake front somewhere with Ferry and some other people and
Speaker 1: watched actual films of the invasion. Landry said that he
Speaker 1: joined the service in June of sixty two and came
Speaker 1: out in June of sixty six. He said he had
Speaker 1: no contact with Ferry during the time he was in
Speaker 1: the service, and actually had not seen him for a
Speaker 1: few months before he had joined the service. It seems
Speaker 1: like the document cuts off there. I know Landry give
Speaker 1: a lot more statements than that. Maybe they'll pop up
Speaker 1: here shortly, but we're going to move on to the
Speaker 1: next document. Memorandum April fourteenth, sixty seven to Jim Garrison
Speaker 1: from Jim Alcock, Executive Assistant District Attorney, referenced Lawrence Fox,
Speaker 1: thirty six twenty six Dante Street, New Orleans. On Friday,
Speaker 1: April fourteenth, nineteen sixty seven, I, along with Kent Simms
Speaker 1: of our staff, interviewed mister Fox. Mister Fox is presently
Speaker 1: employed by Houser American Printing Company at four forty one
Speaker 1: Gravier Street in the city of New Orleans. Lawrence Fox
Speaker 1: was a CAAP cadet from approximately November nineteen fifty five
Speaker 1: until March nineteen fifty seven. His unit was located at
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Airport. During this time, he does not
Speaker 1: recall ever having met Lee Harvey Oswald. From March fifty
Speaker 1: seven through December fourteenth fifty nine, Fox was a member
Speaker 1: of the Armed Services United States Air Force. In the
Speaker 1: latter part of December nineteen sixty, he again joined the
Speaker 1: Civil Air Patrol as a senior member. He remained a
Speaker 1: member of the CAP until approximately October nineteen sixty. During
Speaker 1: this time, he was the administrative assistant to David Ferry,
Speaker 1: who was the commanding officer of the unit. Fox recalls
Speaker 1: having gone to Ferry's house in Jefferson Parish on a
Speaker 1: few occasions. At times that he was at Ferry's house
Speaker 1: were pretty usually at a party given by CAAP members.
Speaker 1: As he recalls, some of the members of the squadron
Speaker 1: at this time were Almeister, Carl Costa, and Leyton Martins.
Speaker 1: During the summer of sixty one, Lawrence Fox solicited funds
Speaker 1: for the Crusade to Free Cuba. As a result of
Speaker 1: this work, he was introduced by Dave Ferry to Serge
Speaker 1: Arcachia Smith. Also active at this time with Arcacia and
Speaker 1: Ferry was Leyton Martin's. In fact, Fox and Martins on
Speaker 1: several occasions went out soliciting funds together. On about two occasions,
Speaker 1: Fox and Ferry went to the International Trademark to solicit funds. However,
Speaker 1: Fox does not recall what office they went into in
Speaker 1: the Trademark. He does recall that it was necessary for
Speaker 1: them to take an elevator to get to the office.
Speaker 1: On none of these occasions did Fox meet clay Shaw. However,
Speaker 1: Fox seems to recall having met clay Shaw briefly in
Speaker 1: the year nineteen fifty five. The occasion for this meeting
Speaker 1: was the Inter American Investment Conference. Lawrence Fox's mother was
Speaker 1: mister Nutter's secretary. Lawrence believes mister Nutter was the President
Speaker 1: of the International House at the time. Fox does not
Speaker 1: recall having been in Ferries, Louisiana Avenue Parkway apartment in
Speaker 1: the year nineteen sixty three. He does not know Perry Russo,
Speaker 1: Nils Peterson, Kenny Carter, or Sandrum Moffatt. Fox recalls that
Speaker 1: a girl by the name of Carolyn Taylor, a CAAP cadet,
Speaker 1: did some typing in the summer of nineteen sixty one
Speaker 1: for the Crusader to free Cuba. Fox will attempt to
Speaker 1: locate any CAAP records he has, and should he find any,
Speaker 1: will call us and make them available. Memorandum January nineteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven to Jim Garrison, District Attorney from investigator
Speaker 1: Lynn luiseell Ree telephone conversation with Agent number one. Agent
Speaker 1: number one called Lynn Waseell and told him that Dave
Speaker 1: Ferry and he had gone to an apartment off the
Speaker 1: Veteran's Highway to look at some dirty films last night.
Speaker 1: That this apartment was in one of Carlos Marcello's apartment
Speaker 1: houses and the apartment was eighteen n but he didn't
Speaker 1: know the address. He said there were about fifteen people
Speaker 1: present and he believed that the operator of the show
Speaker 1: is a Cuban named Carlos. Agent number one also stated
Speaker 1: that there were three colored girls whose names were Shwanda, Margaret,
Speaker 1: and Barbara. He said that Margaret has been with Dave
Speaker 1: since nineteen sixty two and that she knows plenty of
Speaker 1: his associates. Shwanda and Barbara haven't been around that long,
Speaker 1: and that Margaret was Dave's favorite. He said that Dave
Speaker 1: had asked them Agent number one to burglarize this clerk's
Speaker 1: house because he felt like he could make some easy money.
Speaker 1: He also said that this clerk always had one thousand
Speaker 1: dollars on him and knows he must keep money in
Speaker 1: his house. Agent number one said the clerk was do
Speaker 1: at the airport Monday, and Dave would get his license
Speaker 1: plate number, check it out and find out where the
Speaker 1: clerk lives. Then they would burglarize the house with Dave
Speaker 1: acting as the lookout man and Dave going in. Agent
Speaker 1: number one also said that Ferry put money in the
Speaker 1: NBC bank yesterday. Agent number one said he doesn't know
Speaker 1: where Ferry gets the money from, because Ferry only makes
Speaker 1: living expenses by teaching student flyers at the airport. Agent
Speaker 1: number one said Dave was carrying a rifle in his
Speaker 1: car and he said he was going to shoot one
Speaker 1: of those kids that burglarized his apartment. Luazelle asked him
Speaker 1: when the apartment was burglarized and what was taken. Agent
Speaker 1: number one said it was burglarized a few days ago
Speaker 1: and two reels of dirty film, a letter, and some
Speaker 1: pictures of Dave Screw and the nigger girl Margaret, and
Speaker 1: a picture of Frank Woodruff in an army camp standing
Speaker 1: naked jerking off. Later on this date, Agent number one
Speaker 1: called me back, Lazel and told me that a Cuban
Speaker 1: was out talking to Dave a few minutes ago, approximately
Speaker 1: three pm, and he was sure that Dave called the
Speaker 1: cuban Carlos. He said he didn't believe that this was
Speaker 1: the same Carlos who had shown the film that night.
Speaker 1: Agent number one also said that David Ferry told him
Speaker 1: that the clerk would be at the airport Saturday, and
Speaker 1: that Agent number one was to burglarize the clerk's house
Speaker 1: maybe Saturday night, but that he would go by himself
Speaker 1: and would burglarize the house when everybody was sleeping. Lazelle
Speaker 1: asked Agent number one why Dave decided that he was
Speaker 1: not going to go with Agent number one, and Agent
Speaker 1: number one said that from here on out, I'm going
Speaker 1: to leave the burglaries to you. That will be your department.
Speaker 1: Agent number one said that he would call back tomorrow
Speaker 1: to find out what he should do about the burglary.
Speaker 1: All right, the next page is it looks like a
Speaker 1: page of Dave Verie's last will and testament, at least
Speaker 1: what we have that was it's not complete from what
Speaker 1: we read yesterday. Only certain parts of it were released.
Speaker 1: Or maybe that was the So we have a last
Speaker 1: will and testament and two suicide notes. I'm sorry, I'm
Speaker 1: mixing that up. It must have been one of the
Speaker 1: suicide notes that they only released the section of, because
Speaker 1: it seems here that we got this whole thing as
Speaker 1: far as the will goes. July twenty third, nineteen sixty six.
Speaker 1: This is my last will and testament, written by my
Speaker 1: own hand, while of sound mind and body, I bequeath
Speaker 1: all of my possessions real movable and immovable money, books, airplanes, auto,
Speaker 1: whatever else I may own or have a right to.
Speaker 1: At the time of my death to my dearest friend
Speaker 1: Alvin R. Boboof, I bequeathed especially a diamond ring to
Speaker 1: be found hidden in my dining room table. I hereby
Speaker 1: concede and declare no any wills heretofore made by me.
Speaker 1: I appoint Alvin R. Boboof as executor of my estate
Speaker 1: and requests that no bond or inventory be required of him.
Speaker 1: If any just debts or taxes remain to be paid
Speaker 1: at my death, I direct that he pay them out
Speaker 1: of my estate. I declare I have no quote forced heirs.
Speaker 1: What does that mean? I declare I have no quote
Speaker 1: forced heirs. It's rather interesting in light of the fact
Speaker 1: that Eastern Airlines determined that there was a David Ferry
Speaker 1: Junior who was a Marine Corps lieutenant in nineteen sixty two,
Speaker 1: so he had to be born in the early forties.
Speaker 1: So what was the relationship between David Ferry and David
Speaker 1: Ferry Junior And why was David Ferry Junior's vehicle seen
Speaker 1: at David Ferry's apartment, which would indicate that some kind
Speaker 1: of relationship going on in nineteen sixty two between David
Speaker 1: Ferry and his son, David Ferry Junior. Now on the
Speaker 1: original document, yeah, I believe it was an FBI document,
Speaker 1: or no, it was the Eastern Airlines document. You have
Speaker 1: some notes on the side. That paragraph is highlighted and
Speaker 1: then it says Oswald question mark as if the person
Speaker 1: and was thinking that the David Faerry Junior stuff was
Speaker 1: a cover for Oswald. But I don't believe that at
Speaker 1: all for many reasons. So I declare I have no
Speaker 1: forced heirs. I don't know what that means. If you
Speaker 1: have an idea what that means, hit me up and
Speaker 1: let me know. Then it says I asked It's signed
Speaker 1: David W. Ferry, and it says I asked Alvin to
Speaker 1: notify my brother Parmalee T. Faery in Rockford, Illinois, and
Speaker 1: Bishop George Hyde in Alberta, Georgia. Parmale T. Faery, it's
Speaker 1: David Faery's brother, and he worked in the nuclear industry,
Speaker 1: so he's a guy that probably should have some time
Speaker 1: spent on him. The next page is just a copy
Speaker 1: of the envelope open in the event of my death,
Speaker 1: so that's not one of the suicide notes. Next one
Speaker 1: Memorandum July twelfth, nineteen sixty seven two Jim Garrison, District
Speaker 1: Attorney from Robert E. Lee, Assistant District Attorney, reference to
Speaker 1: David W. Ferry. David Ferry was a pilot with Eastern
Speaker 1: Airlines in nineteen fifty nine. I was employed with Eastern
Speaker 1: Airlines while studying at Tulane in undergraduate school and completing
Speaker 1: my law studies at Tulane. It must be a statement
Speaker 1: during the course of my employment as a flight purser
Speaker 1: with Eastern, I had on occasion been a member of
Speaker 1: the same flight crew with David W. Ferry. After graduation
Speaker 1: from Tulane Law School, I continued to fly with Eastern,
Speaker 1: mostly at night, and practice law out of my office
Speaker 1: on Veterans Highway and Metory on a full time basis.
Speaker 1: I opened my law office in August of nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: My second or third client was David W. Ferry. Ferry
Speaker 1: had purchased some stock in a close corporation whose headquarters
Speaker 1: were located in Honduras. In addition to buying this stock,
Speaker 1: he had flown down to Honduras to look into kahuny
Speaker 1: nut venture. Simply put, it was this. The kahuny nut
Speaker 1: has a juice which, when it squeezed out and mixed
Speaker 1: with a certain compound, will harden into a mass as
Speaker 1: strong as iron and of course rustproof, and will endure
Speaker 1: for centuries. There are only two machines available built to
Speaker 1: squeeze the juice from the kahuni nut. One is in
Speaker 1: Chicago and one is in Belize, Honduras. The owner of
Speaker 1: the machine in Chicago won't exhibit or sell his machines
Speaker 1: since he's preparing to move his equipment to Honduras to
Speaker 1: start production. Incidentally, m there is only one area in
Speaker 1: the world where the kahuny nut grows, in the jungles
Speaker 1: of Honduras, so that if Fairy acts fast, he and
Speaker 1: the corporation can lease all the land growing cohune nuts. However,
Speaker 1: the corporation I eat, the President and his wife and
Speaker 1: Faerry have to buy the only remaining machine, the one
Speaker 1: hidden in the jungles of Honduras. I don't remember the
Speaker 1: president's name, but he knows where the machine is. But
Speaker 1: he must give two thousand dollars to an official of
Speaker 1: the Honduran government and in return, the official who also
Speaker 1: knows where the machine is, will issue an exclusive work
Speaker 1: permit to harvest and manufacture kahuny nut juice. Ferry purchased
Speaker 1: forty five hundred of stock and gave the president of
Speaker 1: the corporation two thousand for the machine. Neither Fairy's money
Speaker 1: nor the machine ever got together, and Fairy came to me.
Speaker 1: The last occasion with David Ferry in my office was
Speaker 1: when he told me that he wanted to adopt a
Speaker 1: seventeen year old boy by the name of share Me.
Speaker 1: I advised him that I would charge him seventy five
Speaker 1: dollars and would begin to research and to call me
Speaker 1: back in a week or so. About three days later,
Speaker 1: he came to the office extremely agitated. Sharemi had joined
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps and Fairy wanted him out and was
Speaker 1: prepared to pay any amount. I patiently explained that the
Speaker 1: Marine Corps would not discharge except for medical reasons or
Speaker 1: moral turpitude. Fairry seized on the moral turpitude and asked
Speaker 1: me to explain exactly what it meant. Upon telling him
Speaker 1: that moral turpitude included homosexual offenses, he cut me off
Speaker 1: abruptly and excitedly exclaimed that's it, that's it. Fairry told
Speaker 1: me that he and Sharemi had a homosexual relationship. I
Speaker 1: told Ferry that I didn't believe him, and further that
Speaker 1: the Marine Corps would insist that a drastic admission such
Speaker 1: as this be in writing. Fairy immediately pulled my typewriter
Speaker 1: to him and typed three single space pages giving dates, etc.
Speaker 1: When he was finished, he triumphantly thrust the document towards
Speaker 1: me with a smirk on his face. I read it once,
Speaker 1: tore it in three pieces, and pulled him to the
Speaker 1: door and shoved him out. I told him I didn't
Speaker 1: want him in the office again, and that he owed
Speaker 1: me seventy five dollars for my trouble and to mail
Speaker 1: it to my office. On the few occasions that I
Speaker 1: was a crew member on Faerry's flights, he was a captain.
Speaker 1: We flew to Houston, Corpus Christy and Brownsville, with stops
Speaker 1: between New Orleans and Houston, Baton Rouge, Lafayette, New Iberia,
Speaker 1: Lake Charles, Beaumont, Port Arthur, thence to Houston Corpus Christy, Brownsville,
Speaker 1: and backed the same way the same day. As a rule,
Speaker 1: the flights would have about thirty minute hangover between stops
Speaker 1: for passenger deplaying, baggage, cargo handling, etc. During this period
Speaker 1: of time, the captain would go into the station manager's
Speaker 1: operations office and check the weather ahead, fuel requirements, etc.
Speaker 1: The last year I flew off and off and on
Speaker 1: as a crew member with Ferry was nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 1: Ferry never got out of the cockpit from the minute
Speaker 1: we took off from New Orleans at eleven forty am
Speaker 1: until we returned at midnight. Ordinarily, the captain at the
Speaker 1: end of the trip would stop in operations, if for
Speaker 1: no other reason than to stow his flight bag until
Speaker 1: his next trip. Faerry never went through operations while starting
Speaker 1: the flight or ending the trip the times I was
Speaker 1: part of his crew. I casually asked them about this
Speaker 1: in Houston once, and he told me that his life
Speaker 1: was in danger, that the Communists were out to get him.
Speaker 1: He did, in fact, appear very disturbed on every occasion.
Speaker 1: When I knew him in the beginning, he was very
Speaker 1: talkative and cheerful. But when I saw him in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two, he was grimmed, to say the least, and
Speaker 1: totally unresponsive to his fellow pilots or crew. Members. I
Speaker 1: think I was the only one he really talked to,
Speaker 1: and then only because I was an attorney. I can
Speaker 1: remember occasions in nineteen sixty one in nineteen sixty two
Speaker 1: when Ferry would stop by the office unexpectedly, usually on
Speaker 1: Saturday afternoons when my office building was deserted. On these visits,
Speaker 1: he began to tell me something of his extra curricular activities,
Speaker 1: but only after inspecting my office for bugging equipment and
Speaker 1: asking me to swear that I was not taping him.
Speaker 1: These activities consisted of flying to Cuba and back with passengers,
Speaker 1: once to the Isle of Pines. He would make these
Speaker 1: trips via Tampa and one of the Keys, and then
Speaker 1: on to Cuba. He also mentioned training Cuban guerrillas. In
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one or nineteen sixty two, the chief pilot
Speaker 1: for Eastern in New Orleans asked me, in my capacity
Speaker 1: as an attorney, to check into a report that Ferry
Speaker 1: had stolen an ancient two thousand year old crucifix from
Speaker 1: a Greek Orthodox church, either in Louisville, Kentucky, or Knoxville, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I believe the Jefferson Parish authorities can
Speaker 1: give us the necessary information in this matter. It seems
Speaker 1: to me Ferry and the others ransomed this crucifix. The
Speaker 1: figure twenty thousand comes to mind. The last time I
Speaker 1: saw or heard of David Ferry was in nineteen sixty two,
Speaker 1: and it was signed Robert E. Lee all Right. Factual
Speaker 1: background for reasons stated in Discharge of Captain Ferries is
Speaker 1: an Eastern Airlines document during nineteen sixty one. In nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two, the following criminal charges were brought against Captain
Speaker 1: Ferry in Orleans and Jefferson Parish based on sworn affidavids
Speaker 1: of complaining witnesses. Orleans this is funny. This lists is hilarious.
Speaker 1: Orleans Number one extortion no prost, January fourth, nineteen sixty three.
Speaker 1: Two Public intimidation of state witness, no prost January fourth,
Speaker 1: sixty three and no prost means no prosecution. Three Crime
Speaker 1: against Nature no prost, November fifth, nineteen sixty two. Incident
Speaker 1: behavior with a juvenile and contributing to the delinquency of
Speaker 1: a minor all no prost November fifth, nineteen sixty two.
Speaker 1: Then there is a not guilty verdict on February twenty third,
Speaker 1: sixty two, and then there's two more reports charges unknown,
Speaker 1: no prost November fifth, nineteen sixty two. So it seems
Speaker 1: as though David Ferry has some friends up high who
Speaker 1: can get him out of trouble A lot. The following information,
Speaker 1: which should have been revealed in the application for employment
Speaker 1: or on the pre employment physical Examination Forum, was discovered
Speaker 1: during the investigation conducted as a result of the above
Speaker 1: criminal charges. One, in November nineteen forty four, the Saint
Speaker 1: Charles Seminary refused to allow Fairry to continue in the
Speaker 1: seminary because of his emotional instability. Emotional instability is another
Speaker 1: term for he was a homosexual. Two thereafter, Fairy was
Speaker 1: treated for his mental problems by doctor A. K. Gardner
Speaker 1: and doctor Wilford Gill of Cleveland, Ohio. Three. After the
Speaker 1: above treatment, Fairy reapplied to Saint Charles Seminary but was
Speaker 1: refused admittance. Over a period of years, Fairry has attempted
Speaker 1: to gain admittance to other seminaries, but has been refused
Speaker 1: on the basis of his record at Saint Charles. Prior
Speaker 1: to applying at Eastern Ferry had been employed at Rocky
Speaker 1: River High School in nineteen forty one, Faerry suffered severely
Speaker 1: from asthma and hay fever, which he controlled by administering
Speaker 1: shots to himself. All right, so interesting background on David Ferry.
Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious what happened to him. He engaged in
Speaker 1: crimes against nature with having sex with underage boys that
Speaker 1: caught up to him at Saint Charles, and then he
Speaker 1: could never get into any other seminary again, and this
Speaker 1: weighed heavily on him for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: Next interview of David Ferry by John Voles at the
Speaker 1: District Attorney's office, approximately ten am on Thursday December fifteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six. Were you acquainted with Oswald? Ferry says,
Speaker 1: to my knowledge, no, I was told and I believe,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure. Three years ago, I believe it
Speaker 1: was mister Wall from the FBI who told me. I
Speaker 1: think I met Oswald. Something is telling me at the moment,
Speaker 1: roughly at the age of fifteen. Oswald was fifteen. Ferry says, right,
Speaker 1: I have no way of estimating this. This was told
Speaker 1: to me third fourth, fifth hand. When the assassination of
Speaker 1: President Kennedy took place. A picture of oz was supposed
Speaker 1: to have been on television and a young fellow whose
Speaker 1: name I don't recollect, and the only hook I have
Speaker 1: is that his uncle runs a florist shop somewhere out
Speaker 1: on Canal Street, recognized the Oswald face on the TV presentation.
Speaker 1: He then calls one of the stations WDSU or WWL
Speaker 1: and says that he recognized the face and knew this
Speaker 1: fellow Oswald in the interview either newspaper or TV. But
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it was a public rather than an investigation.
Speaker 1: He and Oswald had been the Civil Air Patrol cadet
Speaker 1: program in my unit, And of course this kind of
Speaker 1: surprised me because I didn't recognize the name of this
Speaker 1: lad that identified Oswald's picture, this being very frank. When
Speaker 1: I got hit with this thing, I started my own
Speaker 1: investigation for a ten day period. It was back and
Speaker 1: forth between me and the FBI, so far as I
Speaker 1: could develop this florist shop fellow I was talking about
Speaker 1: Edva Bell, so far as I could develop with this
Speaker 1: florist shop fellow had gone to school with Oswald and
Speaker 1: tried to get Oswald socialized unsuccessfully as part of the
Speaker 1: attempt to get him in Civil Air Patrol. I understand
Speaker 1: he was in there for only a matter of days,
Speaker 1: two or three weeks. This young fellow told me that
Speaker 1: he had, in fact, in company with other cadets, come
Speaker 1: by my house. As near as I could put that together,
Speaker 1: I must have been living in Kenner, he said, I
Speaker 1: had met Lee Harvey Oswald. How'd you get this information?
Speaker 1: Some through the FBI and some I developed on my own.
Speaker 1: You have no recollection of Oswald? No, I don't. This
Speaker 1: is of much interest. A fellow by the name of
Speaker 1: Jack Martin kicks the whole thing off and gets me involved.
Speaker 1: I don't mind this being in a public record. Martin's
Speaker 1: a psychopath. Martin has a very special vendetta for me. Why, well, first,
Speaker 1: how do you explain a psychopath? However, there are specific grounds.
Speaker 1: I used to work for g Ray Gill. Martin fancies
Speaker 1: himself as an investigator. He acquainted himself with me and
Speaker 1: tried to get some of Gill's work. Gil would not
Speaker 1: have him, because, as Gil says, Martin plays both sides
Speaker 1: of the street. One day I threw Martin out of
Speaker 1: the office. Not bodily, but I ordered him out. Remember
Speaker 1: the time of the first Marcello case in sixty three.
Speaker 1: Gill is the New Orleans lawyer for Marcello. Martin told
Speaker 1: Klein that I had Todd Oswald how to shoot a rifle,
Speaker 1: which is interesting since I am not such a good
Speaker 1: shot myself in any event that year, the year of
Speaker 1: the assassination. I am uncertain, but my belief is that
Speaker 1: Oswald was here in the city of New Orleans. How
Speaker 1: do you know that, I'm trying to remember newspaper stories,
Speaker 1: Klein questioned me about this. To my knowledge and belief,
Speaker 1: I haven't met Oswald. I was busy working for Gil
Speaker 1: at that time. Do you know Morris Brownly in what connection?
Speaker 1: I've known Morris for ten or twelve years. He's been
Speaker 1: in a lot of trouble during that time. Did you
Speaker 1: ever take a trip? On November twenty second, nineteen sixty three, whatever,
Speaker 1: the day that verdict was rendered in the Marcello case,
Speaker 1: I took a week end vacation. Where did you go? Houston,
Speaker 1: Galveston and in Venton. I had some business for Gill
Speaker 1: to take care of. What business was this with Gil?
Speaker 1: One of his case in federal court Marion James Johnson
Speaker 1: was on appeal. I forgot whether I was to ask
Speaker 1: for money or a transcript or what see. That's the
Speaker 1: first instance where he doesn't remember what he did. I
Speaker 1: forgot whether I was to ask him for money or
Speaker 1: a transcript or what he should know that. Where'd you
Speaker 1: go first? Houston? What'd you do in Houston? We went
Speaker 1: ice skating? Who went with you? Alvin Bobuf and Melvin Coffee.
Speaker 1: He's a rocket engineer at one of the electronics places.
Speaker 1: You say you went ice skating in Houston? Do you
Speaker 1: know what rink? To my knowledge, it was the only
Speaker 1: one in the area. Used to be one in Baton Rouge.
Speaker 1: I'm a Yankee and I like to go ice skating,
Speaker 1: and that whole time during the trial, it was pretty
Speaker 1: much a seven day a week thing. Do you recall
Speaker 1: when you went ice skating? When the verdict came in?
Speaker 1: As I recall, we had to go back to the
Speaker 1: office at noon, if I could recall the house the
Speaker 1: president was shot. It was at a time when we
Speaker 1: heard the president was shot. In the next two or
Speaker 1: three hours thereafter the verdict came in. Then we went
Speaker 1: to the Royal Orleans Hotel and we had a victory
Speaker 1: party or whatever you call it. This thing must have
Speaker 1: gone on until supper time. Events are starting to come back.
Speaker 1: But memory is a tricky thing. Wall would know, Wall
Speaker 1: would the FBI. I know what you don't seem to know.
Speaker 1: Vol says it was in the evening hours you left
Speaker 1: for Houston. Are we missing a page? No, something's cut
Speaker 1: off here. It was in the evening hours you left
Speaker 1: for Houston, and then it cuts off on the next page,
Speaker 1: it says it starts off with paperwork. We wanted to
Speaker 1: go ice skating and then hunting. We were going to
Speaker 1: hunt geese south of Beaumont in that area. To be
Speaker 1: more specific, seems to me, we got to Houston. How
Speaker 1: long does it take to get to Houston? How about
Speaker 1: eight hours? I think? Did you ever fly to Houston?
Speaker 1: I fly extensively. I was in Houston three times over
Speaker 1: the past week. I guess we got there about midnight.
Speaker 1: Had you planned this trip? We made up our minds
Speaker 1: when the Marcello trial was over. We were going to
Speaker 1: take a vacation during or after the trial, even before
Speaker 1: the Marcello case. Worked for g Ray Gill any hour
Speaker 1: or any day, that usually was most days and most hours,
Speaker 1: he leads a wild He leads you a wild chase.
Speaker 1: There had been a contemplated trip for some time. You
Speaker 1: were going hunting, but you didn't know exactly where you
Speaker 1: were headed for and couldn't have cared less whose car mine?
Speaker 1: What kind of car? That was a sixty or sixty
Speaker 1: one Comet wagon. At the time that we left, we
Speaker 1: had no idea where we were going. You were going hunting.
Speaker 1: Did you take any weapons? Yes? What kind shotguns? How many?
Speaker 1: I assume offhand? A weapon apiece? You went to Houston
Speaker 1: and went ice skating. Do you recall whether it was
Speaker 1: the same day you left here? We left at night
Speaker 1: and we stayed in a motel. I have to go
Speaker 1: back to the FBI for accuracy. Sometime the next day
Speaker 1: we went ice skating. I was the only one that
Speaker 1: knew how Ah, it's funny he says that. But remember,
Speaker 1: according to Chuck Rowland, he never went ice skating. He
Speaker 1: just sat by the phone, made a couple of calls
Speaker 1: and answered couple calls. So it's funny here he's saying
Speaker 1: that he was the only one who knew how. Vol says,
Speaker 1: did you rent skates or did you have your own?
Speaker 1: Ferry says, we rented them. I don't think I have
Speaker 1: my own skates. I think we rented them. How long
Speaker 1: did you stay in Houston? My recollection of the moment
Speaker 1: is we stayed there that next night, the day we
Speaker 1: ice skated, That would be November twenty third. Whether we
Speaker 1: stayed in Houston the night of the twenty third, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Something tells me we went to Galveston. We
Speaker 1: were looking for some evening activity. What do you mean nightlife?
Speaker 1: You can call it nightlife? Were you looking for ladies?
Speaker 1: We went down to Galveston. We found that the town
Speaker 1: was dead. Did you leave for Galveston in the morning
Speaker 1: or night? Do you know what you did when you
Speaker 1: got to Galveston? Besides finding it dead? I remember the
Speaker 1: morning in Galveston because we went out looking for bars
Speaker 1: and found that the only thing you could buy was beer.
Speaker 1: By our standards, it was dead. It couldn't get deader.
Speaker 1: So far, the vacation had been falling on its head.
Speaker 1: Seems to me it was inclement, some inclemency in the weather, coolness.
Speaker 1: I don't know what we expected for November, but we
Speaker 1: wanted something pleasant. I'm trying to recall whether I stopped
Speaker 1: at Vinton on the way to Houston or coming back.
Speaker 1: I think I might have my dates all mixed up here.
Speaker 1: I think we stayed in Vinton that night, the night
Speaker 1: of the twenty second, the night of whatever date we
Speaker 1: left here, we went to Mary and James Johnson's roadhouse,
Speaker 1: a combination restaurant, bar, etc. And that was invented. Yes.
Speaker 1: So here he's saying that they stayed in Vinton that night,
Speaker 1: the night of the twenty second, which is not true
Speaker 1: because they went to the Ala Motel at four in
Speaker 1: the morning. Right, David Ferry wasn't on this trip, not
Speaker 1: at all. David Ferry was by this time in ham
Speaker 1: and Louisiana. So let me continue. That was invented. Yes,
Speaker 1: So what made you decide to go to Vinton? Sooner
Speaker 1: or later? I was going to have to go there
Speaker 1: for Gil. This was two birds with one stone. What'd
Speaker 1: you do in Vinton talked to Mary and James Johnson
Speaker 1: the night of the twenty second? Yes, I think so.
Speaker 1: Once again, if I could get the record, I could
Speaker 1: tell you. So don't forget this was three years ago.
Speaker 1: Then you went to Houston after Vinton. I'm recollecting it
Speaker 1: that way right now. The reasons I'm saying this. When
Speaker 1: we left Galveston, we decided to go look for geese.
Speaker 1: I remember I boarded a ferry across a channel down
Speaker 1: along the south shore. We did, in fact get to
Speaker 1: the geese and where there were thousands, but you couldn't
Speaker 1: approach them. They were a wise bunch of birds. Did
Speaker 1: you kill him the geese? No? Was that early in
Speaker 1: the morning daylight, but not early morning. That would be
Speaker 1: about the twenty fourth. You went to Vin in Houston
Speaker 1: and in Galveston. I say, it's all right in the
Speaker 1: absence of anything else. What I say, it is all
Speaker 1: right in the absence of anything else. After Galveston, then
Speaker 1: what we decided to go to Alexandria, Louisiana, where boboof
Speaker 1: had some relatives. Then we got the idea of staying
Speaker 1: there for two or three days. I decided to call
Speaker 1: Gil and tell him we were not coming back for
Speaker 1: a couple days. Gil told me you better get back.
Speaker 1: We're in major trouble. Jack Martin told Klein that I
Speaker 1: knew Lee Harvey Oswald had conspired with Oswald in the
Speaker 1: assassination of Kennedy. I came back, and don't recall which
Speaker 1: day it was, sat in this very office, I was
Speaker 1: pretty much surrounded by investigators and everybody clin asked me
Speaker 1: pretty much the questions you're asking me now. They showed
Speaker 1: me four or five police photos of people and asked
Speaker 1: if I could identify them, and I couldn't. One was
Speaker 1: supposed to be Lee Harvey Oswald for an arrest for
Speaker 1: disturbing the peace here in New Orleans. Klein decided that
Speaker 1: I did know Lee Harvey Oswald and arrested me as
Speaker 1: a fugitive from Texas, and they took me over the
Speaker 1: four first District. I stayed there for a couple of
Speaker 1: days while all this was checked out. How long did
Speaker 1: you stay in Alexandria. I don't think a full day.
Speaker 1: I don't recall staying overnight, and somewhere along the line
Speaker 1: we thought we'd better check in, and that's when Gil
Speaker 1: told me to come back at once. Had you arrange
Speaker 1: for gasoline? I don't recall. Do you have a credit card? No?
Speaker 1: None at all. No. Was the trip uneventful? Did you
Speaker 1: have any difficulty? None that I can recall. The events
Speaker 1: that stay in mind are ice skating, deadness in Galveston,
Speaker 1: geese in the phone call to Gill. Did you do
Speaker 1: any hunting in Alexandria? I don't believe we did again,
Speaker 1: I would have to go back to something else and
Speaker 1: refresh my memory. Did you meet any friends? Do you
Speaker 1: have any acquaintances in any of those towns? I know
Speaker 1: Mary and James Johnson a business acquaintance. No one in
Speaker 1: Houston or Galveston. How about Alexandria. These would be bo
Speaker 1: Boof's relatives. Did you all three come back together? Just
Speaker 1: the three of us, boboof Coffee and myself around that
Speaker 1: particular time in that area was mos What was Morris
Speaker 1: Browne doing? I don't even know right now. He was
Speaker 1: just a friend of yours or was he in your unit?
Speaker 1: I don't think you ever joined the Civil Air Patrol.
Speaker 1: This is going back twel over thirteen years around that
Speaker 1: particular time. Did you ever go hunting with Morris? Does
Speaker 1: Morris ever go hunting? I would imagine so. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he ever went hunting with me. I don't know.
Speaker 1: This isn't the kind of thing you remember. Did you
Speaker 1: ever take any trip with Morris? Yes? I think so,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure about this. I would have to
Speaker 1: ask a Gill. Somewhere back in sixty one or sixty two,
Speaker 1: I had to go to Mississippi for Gill on an
Speaker 1: old bill. I believe I took Brownly with me because
Speaker 1: at the time he was doing a little work for Gil.
Speaker 1: I believe it on one of the many trips we
Speaker 1: took to Vinton, because we were back and forth quite
Speaker 1: a number of times. I believe he was on one
Speaker 1: of those. Morris went along with Alice Goodow. Oh, that's
Speaker 1: Alice Gidro's Gill secretary, and I went down to one
Speaker 1: of the small towns New Iberia or somewhere there was
Speaker 1: a murder case where a defendant had to be interviewed.
Speaker 1: That was sixty one and sixty two could have been
Speaker 1: sixty three. Do you recall where you stayed in Galveston? Nope?
Speaker 1: Do you recall where you stayed in Alexandria, Nope. My
Speaker 1: only source would be the FBI. See, Ferry doesn't have
Speaker 1: a clue. He doesn't have a clue because he wasn't there.
Speaker 1: And he says, go and he's like, the only source
Speaker 1: would be the FBI, like they got your back or something,
Speaker 1: which they did, which is crazy. Vol says, you're positive
Speaker 1: that all three of you came back together. Ferry says,
Speaker 1: that's my recollection. The only way I would know for
Speaker 1: sure is to call mister Wall or the individual. What
Speaker 1: is he talking about? But you're positive it was just
Speaker 1: the three of you that went and came back. Have
Speaker 1: you ever gone to Dallas? Yes? I was in Dallas
Speaker 1: in March or April of this year. How about around
Speaker 1: the time you went to Houston? Thank god? Know, as
Speaker 1: Gil said, if I had been in Dallas, I would
Speaker 1: have been in jail since it came up earlier. You
Speaker 1: said you were supposed to have taught Oswald how to
Speaker 1: shoot a rifle. Have you ever taught anybody how to
Speaker 1: shoot a rifle? Yes? This is in the Civil Air
Speaker 1: Patrol Cadet program. Teach him how to shoot a twenty
Speaker 1: two and sometimes something heavier. It's part of the program.
Speaker 1: Did you teach any of these boys who were on
Speaker 1: the trip with you to shoot coffee? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Bo Boof was a born hunter. How about Brownly? He
Speaker 1: likes the outdoors, but whether he goes hunting, I don't know.
Speaker 1: He's the type that would collect botanical specimens, or if
Speaker 1: he did, he would use a bow and arrow instead
Speaker 1: of shooting. You say Morris wasn't interested in guns. I
Speaker 1: don't know, one way or the other. Morris always seemed
Speaker 1: to come up with an amazing fund of information of
Speaker 1: all kinds of things. At this moment, my recollection of
Speaker 1: Morris is that his interest would be physics, rocketry, electronics,
Speaker 1: and philosophy. Was he ever on these cadet training encampments
Speaker 1: that you talk about. I don't recall one way or
Speaker 1: the other. If you're interested in completing this thing, I
Speaker 1: will try to remember and write it down for you.
Speaker 1: What are you doing now? Flying for anybody? In particular
Speaker 1: flying for myself flight instructions. One of your former associates
Speaker 1: is one of my customers, Jerry Aurelio. I feel reasonably
Speaker 1: confident that the FBI agents who worked on this would
Speaker 1: cooperate and I could get other names, the times and
Speaker 1: everything else, because at the time we had to work
Speaker 1: out a rather fabulous time schedule. They worked out Oswald's
Speaker 1: and mine too. Then I could give you more definite answers.
Speaker 1: The two boys that went to Texas with you, were
Speaker 1: they in your unit at the time. I was not
Speaker 1: in the same air patrol at the time. Do you
Speaker 1: know if they knew Morris Dan They're asking a lot
Speaker 1: of questions about Morris Browne. They must know something that
Speaker 1: I don't. Yes, I think so, And what connection? In
Speaker 1: to what depth? I'm not sure. What was Coffee's first name, Melvin?
Speaker 1: He worked at Michaud. When was the last time you
Speaker 1: saw coffee or Bobu? I see Bobou routinely, but coffee
Speaker 1: not for a long time. He was upset about this
Speaker 1: because of his job. Who does Bobu fly for? He's
Speaker 1: not employed as a pilot. He's looking for that kind
Speaker 1: of employment. Do you know what he's doing now working
Speaker 1: for his father in law in a meat packing place.
Speaker 1: Do you make a decent living with this flying? I
Speaker 1: make a living. I don't know how decent it is.
Speaker 1: Do you do any charter flying occasionally? Have you done
Speaker 1: any charter flying in the sixties, In the first part
Speaker 1: of sixty one up until sixty one, it was all
Speaker 1: air carrier for an Airlines Eastern during that time. In
Speaker 1: your spare time, did you do any flying civil air
Speaker 1: patrol instructions on the side. Did you do any charter work?
Speaker 1: It is prohibited. Martin had me go into Cuba. It
Speaker 1: was in the newspapers. In one hundred and ten mile
Speaker 1: an hour plane with four hours of gas. Where you're
Speaker 1: doing any charter flying at the time when he accused
Speaker 1: you of this. No, I was supposed to be working
Speaker 1: for the airline. I was also supposed to have gone
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty three. Klein asked me, if that summer
Speaker 1: I'd been in Cuba, that was some more of Jack Martin.
Speaker 1: Is Pershing Gervase still around? No, he's not in our
Speaker 1: office anymore. Do you want to see him? Not especially?
Speaker 1: I just wanted to refer you back to him as
Speaker 1: to why I am in here this morning thinking about
Speaker 1: Martin's personality, and Martin somehow gets to be near the
Speaker 1: bride at every wedding, in the corpse at every funeral.
Speaker 1: He somehow gets involved in civil and criminal affairs. Martin
Speaker 1: gets in on all these interesting little things. He tried
Speaker 1: to get Pershing Gervais on brutality. There was a big mess.
Speaker 1: For a few days. I have sort of been speculating
Speaker 1: on why I am here, and I think I and
Speaker 1: then it cuts off and it picks up the Warren Report,
Speaker 1: And I think Jack Martin would have seized on this
Speaker 1: because this is exactly his type of meat. I imagine
Speaker 1: he would come to someone like Frank Klein, Pershing Gervais
Speaker 1: or Jim Garrison and sometimes Martin convinces himself on his confections.
Speaker 1: Sometimes he doesn't. I know he was in the psych
Speaker 1: ward in Charity for a while, and he was in
Speaker 1: the psychic ward in Texas. He used to run a
Speaker 1: diploma mill in Texas. You feel he's responsible for your
Speaker 1: being here today? Yes, I feel it is a possibility.
Speaker 1: Have you read any of these articles? No, I'm too
Speaker 1: busy trying to earn a living. I do know I
Speaker 1: have seen statements regarding Governor Connolly. I've got nothing to hide,
Speaker 1: but I've been trying to figure out for the last
Speaker 1: two days what I was being subpoened for. And I
Speaker 1: tried calling everybody to find out what it was all about.
Speaker 1: I tried Gil. He didn't know anything. The reason I'm
Speaker 1: on this Martin thing is that Gil tells me three
Speaker 1: or four days back, Martin called him and wanted to
Speaker 1: know where I was, where I was working, and how
Speaker 1: I could be reached. Gill and I speculated over various possibilities,
Speaker 1: and this Kennedy thing was one of them. Would you
Speaker 1: be willing to submit to a polygraph? Certainly I'd be
Speaker 1: willing to submit to a truth serum. I have no
Speaker 1: hesitation at all all right, So we got one more page.
Speaker 1: Let me see other areas of information which were uncovered
Speaker 1: during the investigation not previously known to Eastern So this
Speaker 1: is another Eastern Airlines document and we'll probably wrap it
Speaker 1: up after this. One Fairies record with the Civil Air
Speaker 1: Patrol and his organization of an unauthorized unit. Two Fairies
Speaker 1: connection with a club for juveniles known as the Omnipotence.
Speaker 1: Three Fairies activities in New Orleans in connection with his
Speaker 1: claim to have a PhD and to be a research psychologist.
Speaker 1: Fairies public claims in New Orleans to be a graduate
Speaker 1: of Phoenix University. Fairies involvement number five in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: in the case of a runaway juvenile. I'll share me
Speaker 1: some handwritten notes here. I can't really read them. Six
Speaker 1: Fairies visit to al share me while the boy was
Speaker 1: in detention under the guise of being a doctor. Oh,
Speaker 1: he snuck in and he asked to see his victim.
Speaker 1: That's creepy. Seven Fairies involvement in nineteen sixty one in
Speaker 1: the case of a runaway juvenile. Al Landry, so he
Speaker 1: was involved in two cases of runaway juveniles. Order creep
Speaker 1: Eight Fairies involvement with the Holy Catholic Apostolistic Church and
Speaker 1: his expulsion from that organization. Nine Fairies involvement with the
Speaker 1: American Medical Association, whereby he was worn to stop practicing
Speaker 1: medicine or face criminal charges. Ten Federal Aviation Agency fine
Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty for permitting a student pilot to solo
Speaker 1: in his aircraft with a passenger. Eleven Fairies speech in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one before his military order of World Wars,
Speaker 1: which speech was stopped because of Fairies attacks upon the
Speaker 1: President of the United States. Twelve Fairies claimed that some
Speaker 1: Eastern employees were Communists and fellow travelers. Again his more
Speaker 1: handwritten notes kind of illegible refuse will the ferry to
Speaker 1: cooperate in company's investigation of above matters. On February eighteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, the company attempted to continue its investigation
Speaker 1: of the above matters by inquiries about them to Ferry.
Speaker 1: He refused to answer any questions the above subjects, including
Speaker 1: questions about his explanation as to why the criminal charges
Speaker 1: had been brought against him. So this is all additional
Speaker 1: stuff that Eastern Airlines discovered after the fact, and thus
Speaker 1: they let him go so all right, and that actually
Speaker 1: brings us to the end of the David Ferry File one,
Speaker 1: Section two, and we will pick up on Monday with
Speaker 1: the David Faerry File two Section one. I. We'll see
Speaker 1: you then, guys,