Speaker 1: Alright, let's go Fred Rogan, Rodney Pete and I have
Speaker 1: seventy l a sports, a big three hours show today
Speaker 1: and a ton of stuff to get to on the program.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: But Rodney, you went to a charity event this weekend.
Speaker 2: I did. I did Fred on Saturday night?
Speaker 3: Was that for?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: They all run together, but yeah, and and and you
Speaker 3: know these guys.
Speaker 2: They're twin brothers, the David and Dana Pump.
Speaker 3: Oh. This was their big gala. Yeah, this was their
Speaker 3: big gala. It was at the Beverly Hilton. And if
Speaker 3: you if you're in LA, we'll shoot. I can say
Speaker 3: if you're anywhere in the country, you know who the
Speaker 3: Pump brothers are. If you don't know them, you probably
Speaker 3: recognize them when you see them, because they're twins.
Speaker 2: They're redhead.
Speaker 3: And and and I've called them this Fred because and
Speaker 3: so I don't know, mind, I don't mind saying this
Speaker 3: out loud. You remember Willie Wonka, that's fair.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And they the Opa Loompus. They there, they could be
Speaker 3: really recast as the redhead Opa Loompus. And I love them.
Speaker 2: I love them.
Speaker 3: They're they're they're great, great guys, got a big heart.
Speaker 3: They have a charity and it's named after their parents,
Speaker 3: Harold and Carold Pump Foundation, and they raise money for
Speaker 3: cancer research. And they've been doing it for a while.
Speaker 2: They do it big.
Speaker 3: They you know, they got they got started and and
Speaker 3: and and the apparel business work with Sonny Bacarl. I mean,
Speaker 3: they they've been doing it for a long long time.
Speaker 3: Had youth sports had a bunch of AAU teams. I'm
Speaker 3: sure you're aware of that, Fred, but they just they
Speaker 3: they do a lot in the sports world. And what's
Speaker 3: amazing about the the Pumps and everyone who's anyone says
Speaker 3: this about them is that you don't know how you
Speaker 3: know them, but you just know them. And and everybody
Speaker 3: says that. It's like, I don't know how I met them.
Speaker 3: I don't remember meeting them, but I just met him
Speaker 3: because their business is meeting people and and they do it.
Speaker 3: Like I said, they do a lot in the sports world.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I couldn't even tell you exactly what
Speaker 3: they do, but they do a lot. Anyway, they have
Speaker 3: the big charity, they.
Speaker 2: You know, raise a lot of money for cancer research.
Speaker 3: But what they do also is they get everybody, I
Speaker 3: mean everybody and their brother to show up for their event,
Speaker 3: and they this year they honored Alan Iverson and Lawrence Taylor,
Speaker 3: and both of those guys were there along with a
Speaker 3: good friend of ours and one of our business partners
Speaker 3: from Signa, Mike Triplett, who I had the pleasure of
Speaker 3: introducing at the event.
Speaker 2: But Fred, when I tell you you know from.
Speaker 3: You know James James Worthy, Alan Iverson, Dominique Wilkins, doctor
Speaker 3: j H, I mean I can't. I can run it on,
Speaker 3: Lawrence Taylor, who got on, Eric Dickerson. Every Body you
Speaker 3: could think of in the sports world.
Speaker 2: Was there that night.
Speaker 3: I mean you look up and you see somebody else,
Speaker 3: Terrell Owens, I mean you, Terrell Davis. It just goes
Speaker 3: on and on, and every person to a purse, to
Speaker 3: a man or a woman, will go you know, how
Speaker 3: did how did they How did they.
Speaker 2: Get everybody to show up?
Speaker 3: And and the biggest thing is is because they call
Speaker 3: you a thousand times until you eventually say yes.
Speaker 2: Everybody has the same story.
Speaker 3: In fact, Alan Irison when he accepted the award, he
Speaker 3: was like, I just came here because I wanted him
Speaker 3: to stop calling me.
Speaker 2: They called me so many times, and they will.
Speaker 3: They are relentless when it comes to trying to get
Speaker 3: somebody to do something or to show up for some
Speaker 3: of their one of their charity events.
Speaker 2: So uh, it was a fun night Beverly Hilton.
Speaker 3: Like I said, a lot of a lot of a
Speaker 3: lot of great people, a lot of friends I hadn't
Speaker 3: seen in a long long time, and and also.
Speaker 2: For a for a really good cause.
Speaker 3: And but it was good. It was good to see
Speaker 3: all those people in the in a room and Snoop
Speaker 3: Dogg performed the beginning. He DJed the first ten minutes
Speaker 3: of the show as people were walking in and getting
Speaker 3: them to the seats, and there's nobody better. First had
Speaker 3: a lot of things in Snoop. He's like, I mean
Speaker 3: the Olympics. If they didn't sign him to a long
Speaker 3: term contract NBC, I don't know what they're waiting on,
Speaker 3: because he was phenomenal in a lot of different things.
Speaker 3: But he was the wrangler to get everybody to their seats,
Speaker 3: and in only a way that Snoop could do it.
Speaker 3: He got everybody in their seats within five minutes. So
Speaker 3: it was fantastic though. It was a great event, and
Speaker 3: I'm glad I was there.
Speaker 1: So the Pumps have this annually, and as Rodney pointed out,
Speaker 1: then they have a very distinctive look their kids from
Speaker 1: the valley. Yeah, my wife actually went to high.
Speaker 3: School with them.
Speaker 1: Oh really, Yeah, that's how long. That's how long we've
Speaker 1: known them. They get everybody, everybody and yeah, they'll call you,
Speaker 1: they'll beat up to your show up. It's pretty simple.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: I also believe, and Rodney, maybe you you have this.
Speaker 1: I think the cancer center at Northrich Hospital is named
Speaker 1: after their parents.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it is right. So they paid for that,
Speaker 3: Yeah they did. It did a few years back. They
Speaker 3: absolutely did. So it is they heild In Carrol Pumps
Speaker 3: Cancer Center at North Rich. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they are great guys. They do a lot for
Speaker 1: the community. And the one thing we've never been able
Speaker 1: to figure out about the Pumps, and maybe you can
Speaker 1: answer this. First of all, they're everywhere and nobody knows
Speaker 1: exactly what they do or how they get there. But
Speaker 1: if there is a picture of a celebrity, they'll be
Speaker 1: standing right next to them. Yep, they'll be standing right
Speaker 1: next to them. It doesn't matter. You turn around and
Speaker 1: they're there.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's Super Bowl Game seven of the NBA finals,
Speaker 3: the World Series, the Kentucky Derby, the Draft, it could
Speaker 3: be anything. And the Pump brothers are there. And a
Speaker 3: lot of times, you know, because they're and and they
Speaker 3: are to this day, identical twins. So if you don't
Speaker 3: know like distinctions with them, it's hard. I still for
Speaker 3: me from time to time they hard to tell them
Speaker 3: apart between David and Dana. But a lot of times, yeah,
Speaker 3: one will be one place and one will be the
Speaker 3: other place, and you think, how did they He was
Speaker 3: just in Paris for the Olympics. How is he in
Speaker 3: LA for this deal? And it's it's David's in Paris
Speaker 3: and Dana's in LA and they're portraying as the Pumps
Speaker 3: are there, you know.
Speaker 1: And when I talk about they're in pictures, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about their standing outside an arena. They are
Speaker 1: standing next to someone a prominence. Every time.
Speaker 3: Yes, it is, it is.
Speaker 1: It is mind boggling. It's as if they know everyone
Speaker 1: on the planet.
Speaker 3: Correct.
Speaker 1: I mean the way if you look at these two guys,
Speaker 1: it's like they can pick up the phone and get
Speaker 1: President on the United of the United States on the phone.
Speaker 1: I have no idea how they do this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But they are everywhere, and like you said, their
Speaker 3: rolodex is so large and vast. But not only that, Fred,
Speaker 3: like you mentioned, they can get access and have access
Speaker 3: to everyone. Like you said, they could probably call the
Speaker 3: president and any political figure as well as a sports figure,
Speaker 3: get them on the phone, get them to be at
Speaker 3: an event and take a picture with them, and be
Speaker 3: right there in the middle of something. It could be
Speaker 3: a major bill signing in Washington you can see one
Speaker 3: of the Pump brothers there. It wouldn't shock you. Or
Speaker 3: it could be a summit and in Brussels and one
Speaker 3: of the Pump brothers is there, it wouldn't shock you.
Speaker 3: I mean, they are legitimate every everywhere. I still don't
Speaker 3: know how they do it. I still don't know what
Speaker 3: they do.
Speaker 1: And I've known them thirty years. I don't even know
Speaker 1: how they make their money.
Speaker 2: I don't either.
Speaker 3: But is this true?
Speaker 1: I mean, we're not exaggerating this guy. I mean I've
Speaker 1: seen pictures with them having dinner with Mookie Betts.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, on a regular basis.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why do you know Mookie Betts?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: How did you do the level of having dinner with him?
Speaker 3: Yeah, showing up or you met him at a Dodger game,
Speaker 3: he said, hello at whatever other event. No, they're They're
Speaker 3: having a dinner with six people, and Mookie Bets is
Speaker 3: at the table with him.
Speaker 1: I've seen him in pictures with Dave Roberts Heeding.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Dave. Dave Roberts hangs out with them all
Speaker 3: the time. He's with them all the time. Why is
Speaker 3: he with them?
Speaker 1: What is it about them? They're everything? No, Doctor J
Speaker 1: is with them all the time.
Speaker 3: I mean you, there's many pictures of doctor J all
Speaker 3: over the all over the country, and next to them
Speaker 3: are the pumps.
Speaker 2: They're they're hanging out.
Speaker 3: Denzel Washington is with them all the time. It's like,
Speaker 3: I don't I still like you said, I don't. I
Speaker 3: know they do a lot of things. I don't know
Speaker 3: exactly what they do. Look, they're really nice guys. And
Speaker 3: Rodney I know them, and you know them, But honestly,
Speaker 3: do you want to hang out with them that much?
Speaker 3: Because everybody's with them? It's everyone and Doug Gottlieb, I think,
Speaker 3: is the MC of that event. Doug. Doug's been hosting
Speaker 3: it and am seeing it for the last five years.
Speaker 3: Holly and I did it a couple of years they've
Speaker 3: they've they've rotated to different people. Like I said, Snoop
Speaker 3: did a little DJ introduction and to kick off the event,
Speaker 3: Michael Buffer.
Speaker 2: Was introducing people.
Speaker 3: It is it's remarkable, remarkable how they how they have
Speaker 3: people there and bring people in.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, hey, Snoop, you busy, come on
Speaker 1: down here and do a couple of sets for us. Okay,
Speaker 1: how does that happen? Well, it's on the hundredth call.
Speaker 1: That's new finance.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 3: It's like, man, y'all again, y'all calling me again. What
Speaker 3: do I got to do to give you calling me?
Speaker 3: Just show up, spe show Okay, I'll be there, man,
Speaker 3: I'll be there.
Speaker 1: Oh well, anyway, I'm glad you had a good time.
Speaker 1: It's a great event. It's yearly and they do raise
Speaker 1: a lot of money.
Speaker 2: There, Yeah they do, Yeah, they do.
Speaker 1: All right, So Dodgers are back home, and I think
Speaker 1: it's safe to say at this point in time that
Speaker 1: it's a little tight, little tight. They're not running away
Speaker 1: with anything. They're still in first place. And I don't
Speaker 1: think it's a bad thing. I think it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: Milwaukee Saint Louis another back I think it's a good thing.
Speaker 1: I think it keeps you sharp. There can be no
Speaker 1: complacency now because every game is almost a playoff game,
Speaker 1: so you've got to be ready. You've got to be sharp,
Speaker 1: you got to be set to go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you might have said this.
Speaker 3: I think you did that. You get to this point
Speaker 3: in the season, uh, you know, mid late August, you
Speaker 3: you've kind of weeded out all the pretenders. You weeded
Speaker 3: out the teams that got on the early run, and oh,
Speaker 3: they're going to surprise the league because baseball is such
Speaker 3: a long season and it is survival of the fittest.
Speaker 3: And at this point you're either good enough to make
Speaker 3: the playoffs and they're going to make the playoffs, or
Speaker 3: you have fallen off after that an early season surge
Speaker 3: that you never really were that good to begin with.
Speaker 3: Because in a long season, the cream is going to
Speaker 3: come to the top. And I think that right now,
Speaker 3: the way it is for the Dodgers is that San
Speaker 3: Diego is not going anywhere and Arizona's not going anywhere,
Speaker 3: So it is going to be a dog fight down
Speaker 3: to the down the stretch, you know, for the Dodgers,
Speaker 3: and for so many years at least in recent history,
Speaker 3: in the last ten years for the Dodgers. Most of those,
Speaker 3: I would say seven out of those ten years, it's
Speaker 3: been a un away for the Dodgers where they've run
Speaker 3: away with the division. They've cruised in September and kind
Speaker 3: of cruised into the UH into the postseason. And you know,
Speaker 3: I think back to they've got one. They've been to
Speaker 3: the World Series three times, they got one one win
Speaker 3: to show for it. So maybe as a change up
Speaker 3: this is this may be good for him that they
Speaker 3: are in a dog fight to either you know, win
Speaker 3: a division. Look, they're gonna make the playoffs, but you
Speaker 3: know where are they slotted. Are they slotted as division
Speaker 3: winners and and best record in in in the UH,
Speaker 3: in the National League and and get uh you know,
Speaker 3: the opening round by or whatever they get or get
Speaker 3: home filled all the way through or are they going
Speaker 3: in as a wild card and got to fight their
Speaker 3: way through. And that's kind of what remains to be seen.
Speaker 3: But I tend to agree with you. I think it's
Speaker 3: a good thing. The only the only tough part about that, Fred,
Speaker 3: is that they have been so banged up for so
Speaker 3: long and throughout this whole season. That maybe more so
Speaker 3: that they than any of the years in the last
Speaker 3: ten that of all the years that they probably need
Speaker 3: to be, you know, in a big lead to be
Speaker 3: able to rest guys and get guys back is maybe
Speaker 3: this year because they've had so many injuries. But nonetheless
Speaker 3: it is going to be what it is. But at
Speaker 3: the end of the day for them to have to
Speaker 3: fight for it, I think it's good.
Speaker 1: Too, all right, the good and the bad. The good
Speaker 1: Clayton Kershaw look good again.
Speaker 3: They're really good.
Speaker 1: Oh he's not thrown at ninety five, he's not thrown
Speaker 1: at ninety two. He's just right in those high eighties,
Speaker 1: hitting his spots. He looked good again. And I think
Speaker 1: if this continues, you look at it and go, all right,
Speaker 1: he is legit for us in the playoffs right now.
Speaker 1: I'd pitch him in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Rotey without yes, oh yeah, I mean he's been solid
Speaker 3: other than you know, initially when he came back. But
Speaker 3: that you know game ghits against Saint Louis, and yes,
Speaker 3: Saint Louis US you know it is not you know,
Speaker 3: killing it right now, but they still got some quality
Speaker 3: players with some great hitters on their team.
Speaker 2: Historically.
Speaker 3: For him to go six innings like he did and
Speaker 3: perform like he did was impressive on the road. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I would absolutely, you know, start him in the playoffs.
Speaker 3: And and the thing is, fred which I liked, is
Speaker 3: that you know, in that dugout, you know there was
Speaker 3: you know when they showed Dave Roberts talking to Clayton.
Speaker 3: You know, Clayton wanted to go one more innie, and
Speaker 3: he wanted to go one more inning and he will
Speaker 3: probably wanted to finish the game and complete the game
Speaker 3: as a shutout. But the fact that they did take
Speaker 3: him out and didn't allow him to go extra because
Speaker 3: that's been that's been the downfall you know of Clayton
Speaker 3: in the latter years, is that he's looked great and
Speaker 3: then they they've left him in one more inning and
Speaker 3: that third time around the lineup or that one more
Speaker 3: inning is where he ran into trouble. So for them
Speaker 3: to say, no, you know, you're good and pull him
Speaker 3: out of there when they did, I think it was great.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Now the downside. First, Freddy Freeman and his finger. I
Speaker 1: think he had an MRI today. David Bessy, I'll be
Speaker 1: on at two o'clock so he'll give us an update
Speaker 1: on that. Rodney try to figure out what happened and
Speaker 1: how bad is it. That's that's a negative. And then
Speaker 1: this Tyler Glass now on the injured list. He told
Speaker 1: him before the start, I feel something in my arm
Speaker 1: a little bit. I owe it to you to tell you.
Speaker 1: I have a long term commitment with you, and you know,
Speaker 1: you guys have to jump in here and at least
Speaker 1: know that I'm feeling this. I'm not just gonna go
Speaker 1: out there and pitch. It could lead to something else,
Speaker 1: it could lead to nothing. But I'm telling you. They
Speaker 1: told him that's it for you. You're going out of
Speaker 1: the il. We're not risking anything here. You miss some
Speaker 1: games now, that's okay. We need you for the playoffs.
Speaker 1: We can't afford to risk it. Do you agree with
Speaker 1: his decision and the c Yeah. All you want is
Speaker 1: the guy to be honest with you and be upfront
Speaker 1: with you.
Speaker 3: You know, you know the worst thing is is guys
Speaker 3: going out there trying to gut it out, trying to
Speaker 3: tough it out. You know when they're you know, hurting
Speaker 3: a little bit, or something's aggravating them a little bit,
Speaker 3: because that can turn into something worse, and so you know,
Speaker 3: you know, you're not trying a rookie trying to make
Speaker 3: the club. You know, this is more important for him
Speaker 3: to be available in October than it is right now
Speaker 3: in August. So yes, it was a great veteran move
Speaker 3: by Tyler saying, hey, I'm letting you know I'm not
Speaker 3: it's just a little bit off right now so they
Speaker 3: can get him rested up. So yeah, I think it's
Speaker 3: just very smart and it was professional the way Tyler
Speaker 3: handled it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he felt badly by the way. Yeah, of
Speaker 1: course he felt badly telling him. He said, I really
Speaker 1: didn't want to tell him, but I also didn't want
Speaker 1: to go out there if they didn't want me to.
Speaker 1: And the club made the decision and it took about
Speaker 1: four seconds for him to decide what to do. If
Speaker 1: you're feeling something in your arm, you're not going out there,
Speaker 1: thank you. Just get right, very much.
Speaker 3: Just get right.
Speaker 1: The other thing I want to talk about over the
Speaker 1: weekend that catch. I believe it was on Saturday that
Speaker 1: Mookie made in right field, m h that sliding catch
Speaker 1: where there was a question of whether or not the
Speaker 1: ball had hit the ground and if you looked at
Speaker 1: it in super slow replay. To me, it appeared that
Speaker 1: he did make the catch anyway. They called it a catch, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they showed it in challenge. I don't think they challenged,
Speaker 1: did they. I don't think so either. No, they didn't
Speaker 1: challenge it. But the best part of that for me,
Speaker 1: it's a moment that if you didn't see it, you
Speaker 1: should look up and try to find it online because
Speaker 1: it'll be in every highlight tape of the season. That
Speaker 1: look on his face, Yeah, when he looked at the camera, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was ooh I got that one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, check out that catch.
Speaker 3: Did you see that? It was like, oh, I got that,
Speaker 3: bad boy. But you know, if you look at it
Speaker 3: several different times, you can say catching, you can say
Speaker 3: non catching. You know, his glove was on the ground.
Speaker 3: Did it hit the did it hit the glove? Was
Speaker 3: his glove underneath in between the grass and the ball.
Speaker 2: You could argue that.
Speaker 3: You can argue that it may have he may have
Speaker 3: hit the ground for I don't know. It was very
Speaker 3: very close, and I don't even know if they really
Speaker 3: We've viewed it several different ways. Do they overturn that?
Speaker 3: But no, the look on his face was was great,
Speaker 3: which you know to me too, Fred was just goes
Speaker 3: to show you what kind of player person Mookie is
Speaker 3: because they put him back in right field. He does
Speaker 3: and he's not sulking, he's not crying, he's not complaining.
Speaker 3: He's going out there playing a tremendous right field again
Speaker 3: and it's just doing whatever he needs to do to
Speaker 3: help this team win. And just that joy and look
Speaker 3: on his face too, and he caught it was was
Speaker 3: pretty cool. So hats off to Mookie because he could
Speaker 3: he could be a little bitter about not hitting leadoff
Speaker 3: and not being back in the infield, but he's playing
Speaker 3: right field and he's doing it and he's not complaining
Speaker 3: and he's being Mookie Bets.
Speaker 1: You know what it reminds me of. It reminds me
Speaker 1: of a kid that just wants to play. I don't
Speaker 1: care where you put me. I just want to be
Speaker 1: out there playing and I'm gonna have a good time
Speaker 1: wherever I'm at. Absolutely, just put me in. You want
Speaker 1: me in right field, you want me to shortstop, where
Speaker 1: do you want me you want me to catch? I'm
Speaker 1: just going to have a good time doing whatever I'm doing.
Speaker 1: And that's what it seemed like to me that he's
Speaker 1: just out there having a good time. Yeah, really enjoying playing.
Speaker 1: And I think there's something to be said about that
Speaker 1: if you are a fan in watching this, that there's
Speaker 1: something to be said about somebody who really looks like
Speaker 1: they're having fun, because then we have fun, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and and and yeah and today's you know,
Speaker 3: in today's game. You know, sometimes it's looked upon as
Speaker 3: whether you call it hot dogging or it's not really
Speaker 3: perceived well. Although as fans you want guys to have
Speaker 3: fun playing, but everything, you know, sometimes it's so serious.
Speaker 2: Guys have a serious look on their face.
Speaker 3: And I think that has been a big you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of criticism of baseball is that it that
Speaker 3: it's not fan friendly because the guys there are not
Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't look like they're having as much fun
Speaker 3: as guys playing football or basketball do. It's so rigid
Speaker 3: and got to play the game the right way. You
Speaker 3: got to be this way. You can't flip your bat,
Speaker 3: you can't you know, you can't pump your fists when
Speaker 3: you strike somebody out. And that's just that's showing up
Speaker 3: to no have fun, enjoy it, enjoy it. And I
Speaker 3: think that's held baseball back and it's good to see
Speaker 3: guys out there having fun.
Speaker 1: How close was Lebron going to the Warriors at the
Speaker 1: trade deadline? How close? And what happened? We'll talk about
Speaker 1: that next.
Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, we're back.
Speaker 3: It is a beautiful Monday, Rodney, Pete, fred Rogan, Hope
Speaker 3: you guys all had a great weekend.
Speaker 1: But let's get back to work. Freddy, Roddy, look at this.
Speaker 1: Look at this?
Speaker 3: What is this?
Speaker 2: What do you think this is?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: That's the letter? Is that the letter?
Speaker 1: It's a letter from the prisoner, hand written, handwritten, one two, three,
Speaker 1: four pages. We're gonna read it letter later. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: do it this hour. Wow, at the end of the hour,
Speaker 1: the letter from the prisoner. I've got it all right.
Speaker 1: So it's a trade deadline, remember NBA trade deadline. There
Speaker 1: was some talk, uh what about Lebron to Golden State?
Speaker 1: And we know that Draymond Green was all in favor
Speaker 1: of this, and as the story goes, he was planting
Speaker 1: the seed in everybody's ear. Go get him, Go get him,
Speaker 1: go get him. And we learned that Joe Lacob and
Speaker 1: Junie Buss actually had a conversation about the possibility of
Speaker 1: that happening. So maybe it was closer to happening than
Speaker 1: we thought. So why didn't it happen? I believe it
Speaker 1: was Mark Stein wrote about this. It was Rich Paul,
Speaker 1: Lebron's agent. He apparently got involved, and he determined this
Speaker 1: would be really bad for Lebron to see him in
Speaker 1: another jersey, a fourth jersey, and that he did everything
Speaker 1: he could to dissuade this from happening. And you know,
Speaker 1: I can kind of buy that, Rodney, can't you?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah, you know obviously, you know, first of all,
Speaker 3: you know, Rich Paul's got a lot of influence around
Speaker 3: the league, and certainly is the Lebron's guy, has been
Speaker 3: with him forever, and and Lebron trusts Rich Paul and
Speaker 3: and and that's a that's a huge thing because I
Speaker 3: think it also goes beyond the.
Speaker 2: Player agent relationship.
Speaker 3: I think they're they're also really good friends, and they
Speaker 3: I think they can be candid with each other, and and.
Speaker 2: I think he's right.
Speaker 3: I think the one thing though, we saw if you
Speaker 3: watch the Olympics, is that those two actually do have
Speaker 3: some chemistry together a little bit. Lebron uh and Steph right,
Speaker 3: so I get it. I get the fact that you know,
Speaker 3: Lebron wanted to play with Steph, and Stephan wanted to
Speaker 3: play with Lebron because it showed itself during the Olympics
Speaker 3: and and how they had some really incredible synergy. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I think it would have been bad. It would have
Speaker 3: been bad if he goes up there just a legacy standpoint.
Speaker 3: I don't think it, you know, diminishes, you know, people
Speaker 3: thinking that you know him either first or second as
Speaker 3: greatest of all time, but moving teams that often, and
Speaker 3: then at this late in his career, if you move
Speaker 3: off the Lakers to go to Golden State and you
Speaker 3: chase it that way, I think it would have left
Speaker 3: some bad taste in a lot of people's mouths if
Speaker 3: he had have done that. Listen, he battled them when
Speaker 3: he was in Cleveland, ended up winning one, you know
Speaker 3: in Cleveland against you know, crazy odds. When when Golden
Speaker 3: State had the best record in the league and it
Speaker 3: surpassed the Bulls and were picked as a favorite, up
Speaker 3: three to one, and then they come back and win
Speaker 3: it in dramatic fashion. I mean, that is as dramatic
Speaker 3: as you can get. When he was in Cleveland and
Speaker 3: then you know, to join them this many years later.
Speaker 3: I think it would have been bad for Lebron. I
Speaker 3: remember all the heat that Kevin Durant took after he
Speaker 3: left okay See and okay See had them down three
Speaker 3: to one and ended up losing that series. And you
Speaker 3: know where there was a point where ok See, you know,
Speaker 3: with Westbrook and that team that they had were battling
Speaker 3: Golden State for the West and ended up losing it
Speaker 3: at one playoff and then he joins them the next year.
Speaker 3: I think it just people did not like that at
Speaker 3: all and still hold that against Kevin Durant.
Speaker 1: But he signed as a free agent Lebron, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but still him going to Golden State was a
Speaker 3: bad thing and left the bad taste in people's mouths
Speaker 3: because it was chasing. But yeah, I mean in today's world,
Speaker 3: trading and free agency, you know, those things that are
Speaker 3: orchestrated behind the scenes anyway, almost like you're a free agent.
Speaker 1: So look at do this. Lebron is sitting, He's not
Speaker 1: on a team. You have the Lakers as constructed without Lebron,
Speaker 1: you have the Warriors as constructed without Lebron. What team
Speaker 1: gets better? Has a better chance to win with Lebron,
Speaker 1: the Warriors at Lebron or the Lakers as they're constructed
Speaker 1: at Lebron. What team would go further with Lebron. Everybody's
Speaker 1: exactly where they're at now, so the Warriors don't get
Speaker 1: any more guys near the little Lakers. That's it. Here
Speaker 1: are the two rosters Lebron gets to go to one
Speaker 1: to make them better. What team would be better with Lebron? HM,
Speaker 1: you don't want to say it, no, I know. I
Speaker 1: still think the Lakers.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: I still think the Lakers because I think that you know,
Speaker 3: Steph is Stephan still is Steph as we've shown, I
Speaker 3: mean we've been shown in the Olympics. Steph Curry is
Speaker 3: still Steph Curry. But I think that everybody else is
Speaker 3: diminished and falling off. I don't think Draymond certainly not
Speaker 3: the player he was. I think the Andrew Wiggins when
Speaker 3: they won the title a couple of years ago was phenomenal.
Speaker 3: He hasn't gotten back to that, and I don't think
Speaker 3: he will. I I just think the Lakers are are
Speaker 3: are the better team. Are the better team with Lebron,
Speaker 3: although they would be interesting up there because what the
Speaker 3: Lakers don't have is a knockdown, badass shooter like Steph Curry,
Speaker 3: you know, which has always been what Lebron needs from
Speaker 3: a fit standpoint. But that's a tough question. I'm not
Speaker 3: saying this by a wide margin, but but yeah, I
Speaker 3: still think the Lakers would, yeah, would be the better
Speaker 3: team if you put him on either one of those.
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Adam's working for Kevin today, So if
Speaker 1: Adam's even listening, I mean he is producing. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he listens to the show when he produces.
Speaker 4: I'm trying, Fred, I'm right here for you.
Speaker 5: I heard the question.
Speaker 1: All right, well, Adam, what do you think you're our
Speaker 1: NBA guy?
Speaker 4: I think it is close, and it comes down to
Speaker 4: one player, because, first of all, Steph Curry's more available
Speaker 4: overall than Anthony Davis, So you have that in your favor.
Speaker 4: Outside of one season where he had the broken wrist
Speaker 4: and they basically just said, hey, take the rest of
Speaker 4: the year off. We're not going anywhere. Steph Curry plays
Speaker 4: seventy five plus games the majority of the time, but
Speaker 4: they have a young player that I think has more
Speaker 4: star potential than any of the Lakers young guys you're
Speaker 4: talking about Austin Reeves, Ruey Hachima. If Jonathan Kaminga makes
Speaker 4: that leap this season for the Golden State Warriors, like
Speaker 4: many people are expecting him to, I think it's Golden State.
Speaker 4: I think it would be the Golden State Warriors. They'd
Speaker 4: be a more dangerous team with Lebron as opposed to
Speaker 4: him being on the Lakers as it is right now.
Speaker 1: Which is why it's close, right It's it's definitely close.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's the X factor because he is as a
Speaker 3: as a I guess as the third guy, he's better
Speaker 3: than anybody that Lakers would have.
Speaker 4: He has so much upside that that dynamic of the
Speaker 4: Golden State Warriors, their ceiling completely changes. If Jonathan Cominga
Speaker 4: gets close to playing at an all star level consistently,
Speaker 4: and the last couple of months of last season, once
Speaker 4: Steve Kerr started to believe in him, he showed a
Speaker 4: lot of growth, development and progress. I think Lebron next
Speaker 4: to him, next to Steph, next to Draymond, next to
Speaker 4: Podd's as well, who's a very good young player, they'd
Speaker 4: have something special.
Speaker 3: I know, I think you know I mentioned that you
Speaker 3: know Draymond's not Draymond like he used to being.
Speaker 2: Has fallen off.
Speaker 3: But I think if if Lebron were to be added
Speaker 3: to that team, it would be a new lease on
Speaker 3: life for Draymond. I think he would find a little
Speaker 3: bit of a fountain of youth going forward, or at
Speaker 3: least a couple of years.
Speaker 4: And Golden State, we know what a fan he is
Speaker 4: of Lebron. Golden State has a system in place. They
Speaker 4: know how they want to play at all times. The Lakers,
Speaker 4: they got a new head coach. They're implementing a new system.
Speaker 4: So I would lean Golden State overall. I'm kind of
Speaker 4: with Fred on this if that's the way he was
Speaker 4: going with it.
Speaker 3: We don't Fred Fred's playing the Straudland defense. I don't
Speaker 3: know where he was.
Speaker 2: Going to say.
Speaker 1: You know what, here's you know? You said it comes
Speaker 1: down to kaminga Well, look at it like this. You
Speaker 1: have a star in Anthony Davis. You have a star
Speaker 1: in Steph Curry, all right. I think Lebron compliments Steph
Speaker 1: Curry more than he compliments a D.
Speaker 2: He has to have a D.
Speaker 3: He has to have a D.
Speaker 1: I think Lebron really compliments Steph Curry and then when
Speaker 1: you look at the other pieces, Adam that you pointed out,
Speaker 1: I think the answer would have been Golden State, which
Speaker 1: is on fortunate for Golden State that Rich Paul jumped
Speaker 1: in and didn't make the move. But perhaps if you
Speaker 1: like Lebron with the Lakers, then you're happy he's staying here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I A. D and Lebron are really good together,
Speaker 1: but they need help. And I just don't know, Adam
Speaker 1: and Rodney, if the supporting cast there's enough help there
Speaker 1: to get them over the top.
Speaker 4: They need help, they need health. I just think the
Speaker 4: Golden State Warriors are more of a ready set made
Speaker 4: squad that if Lebron James was there, they would be
Speaker 4: a top three team in the West, no question to ask.
Speaker 4: And you know, there's a lot of other factors obviously
Speaker 4: you have to consider, like if this trade went down,
Speaker 4: the Lakers were getting something back for Lebron, so they
Speaker 4: might have been asking for Kamenka. So the whole hypothetical,
Speaker 4: it's definitely an interesting question. If Lebron was a free
Speaker 4: agent and he could just go up to Golden State, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think they would be the better squad overall.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but if it's a trade. What is Golden
Speaker 2: State giving up?
Speaker 3: And they're not just gonna take or get Lebron without
Speaker 3: giving up something substantial, So you know, it's a it's
Speaker 3: a it's a tough one, you know. The thing about it,
Speaker 3: you know with the Lakers is who who is who
Speaker 3: can go get you when AD's out or Lebron is
Speaker 3: out or you know, and they're only playing with one
Speaker 3: of those two guys. Who's gonna get who can go
Speaker 3: get you thirty? And you can count on can get
Speaker 3: you thirty, you know, And that's that's kind of been
Speaker 3: the thing. Who's gonna be that other score?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: For for we talked about it last year. It was
Speaker 3: by committee who's gonna be that third guy? And they
Speaker 3: didn't really care. But sometimes you got to know who
Speaker 3: you're counting on going into a game. Okay, I know,
Speaker 3: I know so AND's gonna get me twenty five and
Speaker 3: eight or twenty five and ten or twenty you know,
Speaker 3: it can get me thirty points a night if I
Speaker 3: need them to, and the Lakers don't have that guy.
Speaker 4: That's exactly the point. If Jonathan Kaminga rises up this
Speaker 4: season and becomes a reliable third score and he's more
Speaker 4: than capable, one of the more talented players in the
Speaker 4: league that again got run a ton of it the
Speaker 4: second half of last season, where Steve Kurr finally started
Speaker 4: to believe in him. That's the difference maker. That's what
Speaker 4: makes this an easier decision for me.
Speaker 1: Well, obviously we didn't have to make that decision.
Speaker 3: But okay, but but but in terms of Lebron and
Speaker 3: his what it does to his legacy, way people feel
Speaker 3: about him whatever. I mean, there's always gonna be that
Speaker 3: crowd that just hates him, and there isn't gonna be
Speaker 3: that crowd that loves him no matter what.
Speaker 2: So they cancel each other out.
Speaker 3: But what does it do for that fan that says, okay,
Speaker 3: now he moved and went to Golden State and the
Speaker 3: latter part of his career.
Speaker 1: If he's traded, then he's traded. I think it's different
Speaker 1: than if he signed somewhere else.
Speaker 4: Well, it's also different than Kevin Durant losing to Golden
Speaker 4: State being up three to one and then going to
Speaker 4: that team who had just won a championship in seventy
Speaker 4: three games in that season. I wouldn't blame Lebron when
Speaker 4: old guys get together. It's looked at a little bit
Speaker 4: differently than the Heatles, than KD going to Golden State
Speaker 4: in his prime. You look at the ninety seven Houston
Speaker 4: Rockets when Charles Barkley was next to Pippin and they
Speaker 4: had Drexler and they had a chem Elijuan. Charles always
Speaker 4: rationalizes that as, oh, we were much older. That's different.
Speaker 4: Not superstars in our prime. We're trying to hold on
Speaker 4: and win together and sacrifice later in our careers. I
Speaker 4: think Lebron could skate on some of that because he's
Speaker 4: about to turn forty steps. I think it gonna turn
Speaker 4: thirty seven by the end of this year. I think
Speaker 4: they'd have a little bit of a built in.
Speaker 3: Excuse yeah yeah, and get off this trade thing, because
Speaker 3: it would it would be orchestrated behind the scenes, almost
Speaker 3: as if it was a free agent deal. You know, Oh,
Speaker 3: he'd have to be traded. So Lebron went his hands
Speaker 3: up in the air. I had nothing to do with
Speaker 3: this trade.
Speaker 4: No, come on, Yeah, The same guys who made sure
Speaker 4: it didn't happen would also be making sure it would happen.
Speaker 4: He'd still be orchestrating it and pulling the strings to
Speaker 4: some degree.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, isn't it interesting?
Speaker 1: Especially in the NBA. And the players have more control
Speaker 1: in the NBA than any sport, and they've earned it
Speaker 1: over the years. And their representation obviously has more control
Speaker 1: than representation maybe Scott Boris and baseball, but they have
Speaker 1: more control as well. And when you build a team,
Speaker 1: you may not build the exact team you want because
Speaker 1: of an agent or a player's view. How often do
Speaker 1: you think that happens, Rodney, Oh.
Speaker 2: It happens. I think it happens a lot.
Speaker 3: You mentioned the NBA has got you know, the players
Speaker 3: have more power than any other sport. So you know,
Speaker 3: a guy can you know, with a no trade clause,
Speaker 3: can block anything, block any I ain't going there or
Speaker 3: you know, I don't care what you think. I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, you're not trading me to Orlando. So the
Speaker 3: players have the power it and it goes on all
Speaker 3: the time. And when we see it all the time,
Speaker 3: Adam knows I say, you know, I want to play
Speaker 3: with this guy, and they figure out a way to
Speaker 3: make it work.
Speaker 4: It is the player empowerment era of the NBA, and
Speaker 4: there's no going back. You give them an inch they're
Speaker 4: taking a mile rightfully.
Speaker 3: So they run the league.
Speaker 4: And when you're one of five players on the court,
Speaker 4: you make up twenty percent of the team, you can
Speaker 4: affect the game so much more. Guys today like Lebron
Speaker 4: James especially, he's a bit of an out you know,
Speaker 4: an outlier because he is one of the all time
Speaker 4: great players. But they're almost a franchise unto themselves, Fred,
Speaker 4: these players wherever they go, they are installing a franchise,
Speaker 4: a system clutch. With the Lakers when it comes to Lebron,
Speaker 4: they are making the decisions. They are almost a shadow GM,
Speaker 4: a de facto GM.
Speaker 3: I mean, how long ago did we before and did
Speaker 3: we talk about ad coming to the Lakers and Lebron
Speaker 3: and clutched the ports and all them wanted to make
Speaker 3: that happen.
Speaker 2: You know, Lakers gave up, you know, they gave up
Speaker 2: for it, but.
Speaker 3: That you know, there was no question he was coming
Speaker 3: to LA as opposed to going to Charlotte or somewhere else.
Speaker 3: You don't think other teams wanted a d oh Well
Speaker 3: trade for We probably could give you a lot too,
Speaker 3: but it was about coming to LA and playing with Lebron,
Speaker 3: and it felt like a trade.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it felt like a foregone conclusion. It was inevitable.
Speaker 4: I don't know if ro Palaka won Russell Westbrook. I
Speaker 4: think that was the players on the team that wanted him,
Speaker 4: and then it gets pinned on him later on saying oh,
Speaker 4: that was a bad move.
Speaker 3: You gave up KCP. Yeah, all Lebron and ad that
Speaker 3: pushed that and made that happen.
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Speaker 1: playing Rodney and Ronnie today, So good luck, afternoon to light.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's play little Know your Squad? Rogan and
Speaker 1: Rodney Roulette, Kevin in Northwidge are you there?
Speaker 4: Yes, Sam friend?
Speaker 1: How you doing, Bud good? How you doing today?
Speaker 5: Pretty good?
Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna play Know your squad is?
Speaker 2: What's happening?
Speaker 1: The squad's the Rams, Kevin? The squad is the Rams? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, Well, if Stafford stays healthy, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you a question and five choices.
Speaker 3: Answer.
Speaker 1: Before I give you all five choices, you're locked out.
Speaker 1: You have a challenge. Who's your challenge? It's upheld? Your
Speaker 1: retine your challenge. Here's your challenge. It's denied. You're locked
Speaker 1: out of the next question.
Speaker 3: You got it?
Speaker 1: Got it run?
Speaker 2: Are you ready?
Speaker 5: Happy Monday? Rogan and Rodney? I am ready to play
Speaker 5: this game.
Speaker 1: Good luck to all. Aaron Donald. Here's the franchise leader
Speaker 1: in sacks by an interior alignment with one hundred and eleven,
Speaker 1: who was second with ninety one sacks while primarily playing
Speaker 1: as a defensive tackle. Larry Brooks, Merlin Olson, DeMarco Farr,
Speaker 1: Rosie Greer or Rosie o'donald Rosie Merlin Olson is correct?
Speaker 1: Rodney good start.
Speaker 2: Who did you say, Ronnie?
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry, I thought you said o'donald.
Speaker 5: I don't think Rosie o'donnald was one of the choices.
Speaker 5: Fred or what's happened?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what?
Speaker 5: Why are you taking a Rosie o'donald, Fred, did you
Speaker 5: have a dream or something?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: She just could have played a mean defensive tackle.
Speaker 2: I think she could have.
Speaker 5: Well, she is Bobby Bouchet's mom. Well real, Kevin, are
Speaker 5: you playing?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: That was Kathy Bates difference. Yeah, yeah, it's Kathy Bates,
Speaker 3: all right, and there's a big difference. Don't get that
Speaker 3: twisted from Rosie o'donald. Oh Yeah, oh yeah, Copler.
Speaker 5: My apologies. I love Kathy Bates. Roussie o'donnald, not so much.
Speaker 3: Oscar Oscar winner isn't Jase Bason.
Speaker 5: That's right. She's also the star of the American horror
Speaker 5: story series.
Speaker 3: The girl.
Speaker 1: All right, here's the next one. Matthew Stafford tied a
Speaker 1: team record with forty one touchdown passes last season. Which
Speaker 1: of these quarterbacks also threw forty one touchdown passes in
Speaker 1: a single season, Mark Bulger, Kurt Warner, Jared Goff, Jim
Speaker 1: Everett or Jim Hill Kurt water Mark Kurt Warner is correct,
Speaker 1: and that was Ronnie. Okay, so Ronnie's on the board.
Speaker 1: Here's the next one.
Speaker 2: The obvious choice, damn it.
Speaker 1: Who is the Rams all time leading rusher ten thirty
Speaker 1: eight career rushing yards. Marshall Falk, Todd Gurley, Eric Dickerson,
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson, Samuel L. Jackson, Ran Dickerson, Marshall, No, Roddney, Who.
Speaker 2: Would you have?
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson? Yep, Rodney got it, Stephen Jackson. All right,
Speaker 1: so Rodney two, Ronnie has one. Come on, Kevin got
Speaker 1: on the board. Come on, Kiev, Come come.
Speaker 2: On, Keev gets you.
Speaker 1: I'm working I'm working on it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: The men who have coached at least eighty games for
Speaker 1: the Rams. Who has the highest winning percentage at sixty
Speaker 1: two point four percent. Sean McVeigh, John Robinson, Mike Martz,
Speaker 1: Chuck Knox or Jonas Knox, John Robinson No, Mike Martz, Yes,
Speaker 1: Ronnie Kuck Knock Yeah, Mike mart He was only a
Speaker 1: coach for two years. Boy won a lot of games
Speaker 1: in I guess best show on turf it was.
Speaker 2: Dick for meals team.
Speaker 1: Who holds the team record for most career fumble recoveries
Speaker 1: by defensive player with twenty two. Fred Dryer, Leroy, Irvin,
Speaker 1: Leonard Little, Johnny Johnson or Johnny k.
Speaker 5: Leonard joy N No, Johnny Johnson, Yes, le Roy.
Speaker 1: Arvin, Ronnie receiving a smattering of applause. Thanks Adam. So,
Speaker 1: here's where we're at. Ronnie's got three, Rodney's got two. Kevin,
Speaker 1: you gotta get this one to get on the board.
Speaker 2: Okay, alright, here we go, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Rams made the playoffs and Sean mcvay's first season as
Speaker 1: head coach in twenty seventeen, who led the team in
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns that year with eight. Robert Woods, Cooper Cup,
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, Sammy Watkins or Sammy Davis Junior Sammy Watkins.
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins is correct, and I believe it's Rotteney.
Speaker 5: I think it was Rodney too mere. It is nice Jack.
Speaker 1: You know that smattering applause just dies? Did you know
Speaker 1: they applaud and then boom out?
Speaker 5: How dare you talk about our studio audience like that? Yeah, right,
Speaker 5: studio audience.
Speaker 3: To the audience, they just come in and they do
Speaker 3: anything right now, they're quiet and you there you go
Speaker 3: right disrespectedly.
Speaker 1: You know, do we put up that sign that says
Speaker 1: stop clapping because you know that you give it to Exactly,
Speaker 1: I know we have the applause sign we use, so
Speaker 1: when we turn it off, they just stop, right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: That's tough crowd here, Fred, Yeah, Kevin, thank you, great job.
Speaker 1: You didn't get one, but you gave it a good shot.
Speaker 1: We appreciate it.
Speaker 2: He was in it, he was answering questions.
Speaker 3: He was sorry another time, Fred Rodney, good job.
Speaker 1: All right, there goes Kevin in Northridge. Hey, Dodger fans,
Speaker 1: how you feeling seriously back home tonight against Seattle?
Speaker 2: Not a huge lead.
Speaker 1: How are you feeling? Let's talk about that next