WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.400 --> 00:00:03.960 The great Quincy Jones passed away at the age of 2 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:06.879 ninety one. I don't know that Michael Jackson should have 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:10.560 been the lead off based off all the options we have, 4 00:00:11.439 --> 00:00:14.759 we're gonna play artists that Quincy Jones had a hand. 5 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:17.679 Maybe maybe we ease off the the MJ. 6 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:21.679 Hey, to be clear, what was the first one you mentioned? Also, 7 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:25.399 we got the radio play here. I gotta I gotta 8 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:30.640 dig into the the uh, the records to get some 9 00:00:30.679 --> 00:00:32.399 of the Quincy jonesmen. They're not they're not giving me 10 00:00:32.479 --> 00:00:36.079 any very many options for Sinatra. Okay, but hey, but look, 11 00:00:36.200 --> 00:00:39.520 Charles Ray, Charles, Hey, look, I'll tell you what. 12 00:00:39.560 --> 00:00:42.840 Occasionally Ignition by R Kelly comes on my playlist and. 13 00:00:42.840 --> 00:00:45.119 I'm like, what do you It's a good song. 14 00:00:45.159 --> 00:00:45.759 What do you want me to do? 15 00:00:45.799 --> 00:00:46.439 You're dancing to it? 16 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:50.119 So you know what, Hello, Smitty, let's turn on Smitty's 17 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:50.399 Mike here. 18 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:51.520 Let's get Smitty dialed a way. 19 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:52.159 What is what? 20 00:00:52.280 --> 00:00:52.320 What? 21 00:00:52.439 --> 00:00:54.119 What should deal with Michael Jackson? 22 00:00:55.960 --> 00:00:59.359 Maybe you haven't googled it? In a minute, Uh, just 23 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:01.159 gonna I'm back away. 24 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:03.439 From the Quincy Jones. Michael Jackson. 25 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:08.799 That was That's one of the all time most successful partnerships. 26 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:11.879 And I'm not talking about how many how many records 27 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:16.719 he sold. Man, his success is not arguable. We're on 28 00:01:16.760 --> 00:01:17.719 the same page with that one. 29 00:01:17.760 --> 00:01:20.040 Hey, no, no, no, no, but hey, all you have to 30 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:23.120 do is play anything from the uh what was the 31 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:25.239 documentary that came out in the in the last year 32 00:01:25.280 --> 00:01:26.959 on Netflix with the the. 33 00:01:26.920 --> 00:01:28.400 One where they all got together? 34 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:30.680 That was good. By the way, we'll play we Are 35 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:32.359 the World. We can do that. That one's safe. 36 00:01:32.599 --> 00:01:33.239 Yeah. 37 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.560 But Quincy Jones, I mean a legend passed old. 38 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:37.319 No, and he was. 39 00:01:37.359 --> 00:01:40.040 He was such a such an icon in in the 40 00:01:40.120 --> 00:01:43.719 music industry and uh and then at a time when 41 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:49.640 when he was able to assert his leadership in the 42 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.280 music industry with a lot of uh uh, not only 43 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:56.280 new artists but also established artists who wanted to come 44 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.920 and work with him, and he had he had a long, 45 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:06.599 long run of success. And that's very sad to hear of. 46 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:09.000 His passing, certainly. So that's going to be the musical 47 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:11.759 theme on the show today. We'll try to remound from 48 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:16.039 o awkward start. Richard Smith, you are a number of 49 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:18.840 different things. You are a basketball savant, you are a 50 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:21.280 longtime member of the Utah Jazz. You are a former 51 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:26.919 baseball All Star and competitive softball outfielders extraordinaire, but you're 52 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:30.520 also a man in our community that has been kind 53 00:02:30.560 --> 00:02:34.000 of ingrained in the fabric of our sporting culture. And 54 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:36.800 this is a unique week, right like Utah BYU football 55 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:39.599 one hundred and second meeting first time in three years. 56 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:42.719 BYU breaks their nine game losing streak a couple of 57 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:44.960 years back. They have not won in Salt Lakes since 58 00:02:44.960 --> 00:02:48.240 two thousand and six, and we have two teams heading 59 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:52.560 in completely different directions. The nature of rivalry games, it's 60 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:54.879 always been an interesting topic to me because if you 61 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:56.840 ever played in one, and I never played for anything, 62 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:59.080 it mattered. But if you play throughout the course of 63 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:02.039 your high school or AAU career and the other school 64 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:03.800 is your rival, it feels different. 65 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:06.599 It always does. I love the energy. I think it's 66 00:03:06.639 --> 00:03:07.240 a lot of fun. 67 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:09.560 As a man who's been to a lot of these games, 68 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:11.479 What do you make of what we could see on Saturday? 69 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:14.159 Well, you know what's exciting about this, first of all, 70 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:17.919 is that if we just go back a few months, 71 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:21.800 right in July, when all the pre hype and all 72 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:25.240 that stuff is taking place, and everything before the season 73 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:28.120 even started. If you looked at the game on the 74 00:03:28.199 --> 00:03:33.520 schedule this Saturday on November ninth, you would have thought, Okay, 75 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:37.199 they're going to go into that game Utah is probably 76 00:03:37.240 --> 00:03:40.479 going to be eight to oh and BYU is probably 77 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:43.520 going to be four and four. Right, That would have 78 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:47.400 been the projection in July, And now you get here 79 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:50.520 this week the script is completely flipped. 80 00:03:51.159 --> 00:03:53.479 And that's one. 81 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:57.319 Of the great things, as we always talk about sports 82 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:01.280 being live theater, that you know, you can practice, you 83 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:03.439 can do all the stuff that people do on Broadway 84 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:06.639 right for their theater presentation, and then when the curtain 85 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:09.120 goes up in the theater, you know what's gonna happen 86 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:10.919 because you have a script and you follow it and 87 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:13.240 you know who's gonna who's gonna get married to who 88 00:04:13.280 --> 00:04:16.319 at the end of the musical and whatever. But in sports, 89 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:18.639 you do all the same preparation and then the curtain 90 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:21.759 goes up and you have no idea what's gonna take 91 00:04:21.759 --> 00:04:23.959 place in the next couple hours, you know, And so 92 00:04:24.360 --> 00:04:28.639 that's what makes it always exciting. And and of course 93 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:32.759 this week with the flip of the scripts and b YU, 94 00:04:33.360 --> 00:04:36.240 you know, running running away with a lot of stuff 95 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:40.000 right now in terms of the conference and what's happening 96 00:04:40.040 --> 00:04:43.399 there and the position they are in and Utah, you know, 97 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:46.399 stumbling and and and being the place that they're in. 98 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:50.600 It just makes it more more exciting to discuss it, 99 00:04:50.800 --> 00:04:54.759 which I know this radio station will do odd nauseum 100 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:57.279 all all week long, and we'll talk about the same 101 00:04:57.680 --> 00:04:59.000 quarterback issues. 102 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:02.000 S want of time, we'll talk about We'll. 103 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:05.199 Talk George, can't you Yes, yes, Smitty, we are going 104 00:05:05.199 --> 00:05:08.160 to cover Uta e Yu football from every single. 105 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:10.519 As as it should be. Yeah, I'm just saying, but 106 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:13.560 it's going to be. And how about you? How about 107 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:17.199 you and Porter and whoever whoever was responsible for getting 108 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:21.439 Kalani satak on. I'm like the opening act for the Yes, 109 00:05:21.519 --> 00:05:25.120 Yes you are, yeah, Rise, I'm even in the same stage. 110 00:05:25.199 --> 00:05:27.720 But you know, well, look, you're You've got Kyle Winningham. 111 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:29.439 You've lived here how many years, midty. 112 00:05:29.399 --> 00:05:31.560 I've been here forty three years. 113 00:05:31.560 --> 00:05:33.680 This is home for you now, even though you go 114 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:35.839 back to the high school in you know, in the 115 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:38.439 soft part of Connecticut where I didn't grow up, but 116 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:42.240 this is home. So it's it's it's really the only 117 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:46.800 thing that we have where we got Thanksgiving coming up. 118 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.959 There are split tables. You know, people are watching this 119 00:05:50.000 --> 00:05:52.480 game with anxiety, so they don't walk into elders coorm 120 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:54.639 and their b Yu goog brought. You know, the dude 121 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:56.560 in their ward is wearing his blue tide and his 122 00:05:56.560 --> 00:05:58.040 blue suit and he's going to give you the crap. 123 00:05:58.160 --> 00:06:01.000 So it it's the only thing we have in the 124 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:02.480 state the causes that dynamic. 125 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:06.120 Yeah, well, you know, and and uh in our house. Uh, 126 00:06:06.319 --> 00:06:09.600 my wife uh is a b y U grad and 127 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:11.240 I worked at the at the U for a lot 128 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:13.079 of years when I first came to the Salt Lake, 129 00:06:13.079 --> 00:06:15.600 when I was working both at the University of Utah 130 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:19.639 and and with the jazz and and we have one 131 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:22.680 of those flags that I think is I don't know 132 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:24.879 if it's been outlawed or you can't. 133 00:06:24.600 --> 00:06:26.600 Get them now or what we were thinking. 134 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:29.519 Yeah, yeah, one of those flags where it's down the 135 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:32.959 middle and it says, you know, uh, I forget even 136 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:36.360 what's on the flag split split house or something or whatever. 137 00:06:36.439 --> 00:06:36.600 You know. 138 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:38.199 The ones I've seen have both logos. 139 00:06:38.279 --> 00:06:40.439 Yeah, yeah, well this has yeah, this has BYU logo 140 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:43.439 on half and the Utah logo on half, and it said, 141 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:45.759 oh you know what the word is on the label 142 00:06:45.800 --> 00:06:47.959 of the flag is house divided. 143 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:49.040 That's what it is. 144 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.519 Yes, yes, And so that's what we have and and 145 00:06:51.600 --> 00:06:54.480 we'll have that flag up tonight for this week and 146 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:55.759 it'll be it'll be fun. 147 00:06:55.839 --> 00:06:57.879 Well, And you and I were talking about something off 148 00:06:57.920 --> 00:07:00.720 air that I think is a worthwhile on air conversation 149 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:06.360 because I know this week hits some people much differently 150 00:07:06.519 --> 00:07:08.839 and they don't like it. They don't like the anxiety, 151 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:13.600 they don't like the dissension, they don't like the heated exchanges. 152 00:07:13.720 --> 00:07:15.079 Now I don't live online, so. 153 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:17.199 We'll let the message board people do the message board 154 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:19.279 people thing. And I don't know how much of that 155 00:07:19.319 --> 00:07:22.199 really permeates in real life, honestly, don't. I feel like 156 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:25.199 the people that don't like this week are talking about 157 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:28.079 the mean thing somebody will say online about them, which 158 00:07:28.079 --> 00:07:30.759 shouldn't matter at all. But like I said, you also 159 00:07:30.800 --> 00:07:33.439 get the church back and forth. You know, obviously plenty 160 00:07:33.439 --> 00:07:37.920 of both alumni and students, and you know, bring them young, 161 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:41.639 the majority of them being LDS. But there's a religious 162 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:45.199 element to this thing. It doesn't exist in very many 163 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:48.199 other rivalries, and it does add to it, you know 164 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:52.360 what I mean, because there's always this feeling of well, 165 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:54.879 if BYU want, it's because they're living right and God 166 00:07:54.959 --> 00:07:57.439 loves them. And if you taw one, they got lucky 167 00:07:57.480 --> 00:07:59.800 because they're all sinners. Like, there's always this there's this 168 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:02.600 thing that kind of ties into it that makes it 169 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:04.480 unique in a way that I think is a lot 170 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:06.160 of fun, but some people don't really enjoy it. 171 00:08:06.240 --> 00:08:09.000 Well, I think that, and I think a good layer 172 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:13.120 of the uniqueness spence is that within that church dynamic, 173 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:17.079 you have the people who are b Yu supporters, who 174 00:08:17.160 --> 00:08:20.920 are you know, uh largely members of the l d 175 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:25.360 S Church. But you also have a good section of 176 00:08:25.360 --> 00:08:30.800 of active l d S people who are Utah fans, 177 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.200 and so you have the b y U people. 178 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:35.120 This is this is my perspective. 179 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:37.879 Now over the years, you have the b Yu fans 180 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:40.960 who look at the the l d S Utah fans 181 00:08:41.440 --> 00:08:44.320 and wonder, well, why why you over there? You know 182 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:46.399 with that group, you should you should be over here 183 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.799 with us. This is where you where you should be. 184 00:08:49.159 --> 00:08:51.320 And the people who are members of the l d 185 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:55.320 S Church and and uh uh uh support the you 186 00:08:55.879 --> 00:08:59.960 and a big Utah fans uh. The b Yu fan 187 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:02.240 fans can't understand why they would they would be in 188 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:04.799 that put themselves in that position. So that to me, 189 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:08.120 that's always added another layer. And even you know, you know, 190 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:10.440 you know we just mentioned the house divided, you have 191 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:13.320 a lot of you know, like the the the Wilson family, 192 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:15.879 you know, Zach and I and and and I said Wilson. 193 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:19.320 You know, their family grew up big Utah fans and 194 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:22.279 all the time and and supported them season tickets and 195 00:09:22.320 --> 00:09:24.519 all that stuff. And then and then Zach ends up 196 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:28.200 going to b YU mainly because you didn't think he 197 00:09:28.240 --> 00:09:31.080 was good enough and didn't really you know, recruit him, 198 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:34.039 and uh. And then so you have that kind of 199 00:09:34.039 --> 00:09:37.039 stuff where even within the house you have people who 200 00:09:37.080 --> 00:09:39.679 are rooting and have different rooting interests. So that that's 201 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:43.000 what puts another layer to me. You're talking about the 202 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.960 church thing and and uh and and people having a 203 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:47.240 loyalty split that way. 204 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:48.320 Yeah, no, it's well said. 205 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:51.879 It is funny how b y U fans view And 206 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:54.559 we're generalizing here, so before I get a bunch of 207 00:09:54.639 --> 00:09:56.759 d ms and emails, everybody'd take a few deep breaths. 208 00:09:56.799 --> 00:09:57.799 We're just generalizing. 209 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:00.320 But there is this faction of the b y fan 210 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:04.720 base that simply just views anybody that is LDS and decided. 211 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:06.799 To go apostate Utah with judgment. 212 00:10:06.840 --> 00:10:08.840 Then there's this faction of the Utah fan base that's 213 00:10:08.919 --> 00:10:12.120 LDS that looks down on the BYU fans is pious 214 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:14.399 and holier than now right a mind, and it just 215 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:18.399 it ties into this dynamic that makes it so interesting 216 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:21.840 and attending to it. Look, I'm not gonna say it's 217 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:26.440 the only college football rivalry that's like this, but Jay Hill, 218 00:10:26.519 --> 00:10:33.039 Siona Pua, Utah grats Aaron Roderick, Kalani Satake, former Utah coaches, 219 00:10:33.600 --> 00:10:39.080 Kyle Whittingham, former BYU player, Like that doesn't happen very 220 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:41.320 many other college football rivalries. So it's kind of the 221 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.440 way I like to describe it. It's kind of like 222 00:10:43.440 --> 00:10:47.000 this dysfunctional extended family right where at the end of 223 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:50.919 the day, I believe when you're not playing against each other, 224 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:53.399 you want the other to do well. Now, not fans 225 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:55.440 right like you, There are a lot of you fans 226 00:10:55.480 --> 00:10:57.559 that want BYU to lose every game. Yeah, a lot 227 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:00.320 of BYU family want Utah to lose every game. But 228 00:11:00.399 --> 00:11:04.120 I think like under the family umbrella of coaches and players, 229 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:07.639 it feels like over the years I've mostly witnessed respect 230 00:11:08.000 --> 00:11:09.120 all the time, but mostly no. 231 00:11:09.200 --> 00:11:11.639 I think I think they do, and I think that's 232 00:11:11.639 --> 00:11:14.720 what it has always been. The interesting part for me, Spence. 233 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:17.440 The people who are involved in it, the people who 234 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:20.679 are in the circle, so to speak, they get it, 235 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:23.679 and they do it with respect. They understand what the 236 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:26.919 whole thing is, you know that, that's my opinion. The 237 00:11:26.960 --> 00:11:29.639 people who are outside the circle, who are the fans 238 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:33.159 looking down from thirty thousand feet or whatever, they're the 239 00:11:33.159 --> 00:11:35.919 ones who get all riled up and everything. I wish 240 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:37.879 it would just be you know that you could do 241 00:11:37.879 --> 00:11:39.919 it in good fun, like you do when you're in 242 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:42.639 a locker room and you're with the guys that you 243 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:46.440 play with, and you you tease each other about each 244 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.399 other's school, the whey they went, and how their school 245 00:11:50.440 --> 00:11:53.240 is doing, and you do it good naturedly, and it's 246 00:11:53.240 --> 00:11:57.200 always for fun and and you you enjoy it, and 247 00:11:57.240 --> 00:11:59.960 you enjoy the back and forth and the teasing and kidding. 248 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:04.320 What happens in this rivalry is that there's too many 249 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:09.519 people who go the negative route and who go, you know, 250 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:13.320 the attacking route, and you know everything's bad about. 251 00:12:13.120 --> 00:12:15.039 The other side or whatever it is. 252 00:12:15.559 --> 00:12:19.240 And that's the part that's a little distasteful for me. 253 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:21.600 I wish people would just like keep it above the 254 00:12:21.639 --> 00:12:25.320 line and have fun with it. And you know, because hey, 255 00:12:25.360 --> 00:12:30.080 guess what, On Sunday, the game will be over and 256 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:33.440 on Monday, everybody'll be back to their regular life or whatever. 257 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:37.120 And it doesn't really amount to a lot of things 258 00:12:37.200 --> 00:12:42.679 other than hopefully a competitive football game between two familiar 259 00:12:43.840 --> 00:12:48.200 schools that the fans are ruining for and can get 260 00:12:48.279 --> 00:12:49.840 up for and have fun with it. 261 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:52.840 So a lot of good points in there. It felt 262 00:12:52.840 --> 00:12:53.799 like the fever pitch. 263 00:12:53.840 --> 00:12:55.759 And this is just my little echo chamber here, it 264 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:58.399 felt like the fever pitch for hate was at an 265 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:02.960 all time high when Bronco was coaching BYU because Bronco 266 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:05.360 and Kyle, like, you got to call that thing how 267 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:08.799 it is. You could tell that there was no love lost, 268 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:11.879 and you know, I'm privy to certain things behind the 269 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:14.720 scenes that indicates that they just didn't like each other. 270 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:15.519 And that's all right. 271 00:13:16.080 --> 00:13:21.600 But Bronco was like central casting for why YOUT fans 272 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:25.120 sometimes don't like BYU. He was pious, he was holier 273 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:28.039 than now. He quoted scripture during his press conference. You know, 274 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:30.960 I was down at a BYU event, m seeing that 275 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.639 i've or I did my show prior to the event 276 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:34.720 down to Thanksgiving point. 277 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:36.120 I've done it three years in a row now. 278 00:13:36.720 --> 00:13:38.840 And one of the BYU players told the story of 279 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:41.639 Bronco coming to his house to recruit his son. And 280 00:13:41.759 --> 00:13:44.679 this BYU player is the current stake president down South 281 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:46.960 and he said, Bronco's first question to his kid is 282 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:49.399 what's your favorite scripture? And the guy's like, what are 283 00:13:49.399 --> 00:13:51.639 we doing? You're here to recruit him to play football? Right, 284 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:56.399 So Bronco was a perfect face for what YOUT fans 285 00:13:56.440 --> 00:13:57.639 perceived BYU to be. 286 00:13:58.679 --> 00:14:00.000 And BYU fans. 287 00:13:59.759 --> 00:14:03.360 Were out of Kyle for saying no to his you know, 288 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:06.360 his alma mater and yes to the rival. So it 289 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:08.960 seemed that the fever pitch, as far as the hate goes, 290 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.440 was at an all time high when those two were 291 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:14.559 at it, because Ronnie Mack and Level loved each other, yes, 292 00:14:14.600 --> 00:14:15.440 and you could feel it. 293 00:14:15.840 --> 00:14:19.639 Urban came over. He invented team. 294 00:14:19.480 --> 00:14:21.960 Down South and that's a stolen you know, and so 295 00:14:22.279 --> 00:14:25.240 you know that played into it. Utah was awesome, but 296 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:29.120 it felt like after Kilanie got the job, Kilane, to me, 297 00:14:29.720 --> 00:14:32.240 deserves a lot of the credit for what I perceived 298 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:35.080 to be a little bit more civility among the two 299 00:14:35.240 --> 00:14:36.919 fan bases since he took the job. 300 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:38.000 That's my prism. 301 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:39.879 Yeah, and I would agree with that. 302 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:44.360 You know, kilani Is is such a first and Foremo, 303 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:51.000 such a good person, U centered person. He understands the 304 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:54.159 whole thing from both sides. He understands what it's all about, 305 00:14:55.440 --> 00:14:57.559 you know. And he's also one of these guys who's 306 00:14:57.559 --> 00:15:00.759 not full of himself. You know, he's he's doing it, 307 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:04.279 you know, for the right reasons. He's he's coaching his team, 308 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:10.080 He's got him going in a terrific direction trajectory, and uh, 309 00:15:10.120 --> 00:15:12.720 and the way he carries himself and the way he speaks. 310 00:15:13.279 --> 00:15:16.080 You know, I think you can't help but like him 311 00:15:16.120 --> 00:15:19.279 and root for him because of the way that he 312 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:22.000 that he goes about his business. You know, Kyle's the 313 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:24.799 same way Kyle has, you know, isn't full of himself. 314 00:15:24.879 --> 00:15:29.000 Kyle Kyle has for all of his success is uh, 315 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:31.799 you know, really believes and just coming and and and 316 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:34.159 getting to work and trying to do your best and 317 00:15:34.320 --> 00:15:37.759 respecting your opponent. And I would hope that this week, 318 00:15:37.840 --> 00:15:40.879 the fans as they're as they're engaging each other in 319 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:43.720 that regard heading up to the game Saturday night, are 320 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:46.159 you know, would take the lead from the two coaches 321 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:50.000 and understand, Hey, this this should be about sportsmanship and 322 00:15:50.000 --> 00:15:52.519 and having a good competitive game and you know, and 323 00:15:52.559 --> 00:15:55.600 having fun with it and not not getting over the line, 324 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:58.360 you know, to the other stuff that that really doesn't 325 00:15:58.399 --> 00:15:59.799 doesn't really serve anybody. 326 00:15:59.879 --> 00:16:03.000 And yeah, there's nothing as well said, there's nothing not 327 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:06.360 to like about either Kyle or Kloney. And I can 328 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:09.799 tell you it's real because you know, we're not best friends, 329 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:11.519 but I'm able to get to know them enough where 330 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:13.679 I feel like I have a good read on the 331 00:16:13.679 --> 00:16:16.279 type of people they are. All right, before we catch 332 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:18.039 break one more thing on this and then we'll do 333 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:21.399 a little We will talk jazz coming up. I mean, 334 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:23.320 I don't really know what there is to say, but 335 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:25.519 we'll try to say some things about the team coming 336 00:16:25.600 --> 00:16:26.240 up in a little bit. 337 00:16:27.200 --> 00:16:30.080 So there are two. 338 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:33.600 Very different paths with these two teams, as you outlined earlier. 339 00:16:34.080 --> 00:16:37.000 For BYU, and it's interesting with a big twelve cast 340 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:39.039 we just saw, this is not an elimination game for 341 00:16:39.039 --> 00:16:42.000 Brigham Young, like I hear a lot of youth fans, well, 342 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:43.039 let's spoil their paths. 343 00:16:43.399 --> 00:16:43.840 You can't. 344 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:49.000 Sorry, Like BYU could still and probably is favored to 345 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:51.000 go to the Big twelve championship game no matter what 346 00:16:51.080 --> 00:16:54.440 happens on Saturday night. But undefeated season means a lot, 347 00:16:54.559 --> 00:16:57.279 you know, if they can interer, maybe the CFPUN defeated, 348 00:16:57.279 --> 00:16:58.960 maybe they have a chance to host a home playoff 349 00:16:58.960 --> 00:17:00.960 game in provo. Like, there's so many things on the 350 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:05.480 table for them. For Utah, Smidty and you know, for 351 00:17:05.519 --> 00:17:08.799 a lot of these players that don't know the intensity 352 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:10.880 of this thing because they haven't experienced there, didn't grow 353 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:15.279 up here, Kyle did, Morgan did, like the coaches know 354 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:18.640 it's at stake. So for Utah, I guess what's at 355 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:22.400 steak here is maybe one last chance, Like we're partying 356 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:24.920 like it's nineteen eighty six again. It's like one last 357 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:29.400 chance to endear yourself to a community that right now 358 00:17:29.440 --> 00:17:31.400 is really bummed out about the way you played. Because 359 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.599 if you are great for one day against BYU, you 360 00:17:33.720 --> 00:17:36.079 become a legend around here. That's got to be what's 361 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:38.440 at stake, right, I don't know what else. I mean, 362 00:17:38.680 --> 00:17:40.680 there's still the Bowl game thing. And I guess the 363 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:42.920 only thing worse than playing in a throwaway bowl game 364 00:17:42.960 --> 00:17:44.400 is not being eligible for one. 365 00:17:44.920 --> 00:17:47.079 So two very different dichotomies here. 366 00:17:47.160 --> 00:17:51.039 No, it's a well, the rivalry game and wanted to 367 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:54.160 have the bragging rights all winter, you know, for your 368 00:17:54.240 --> 00:17:58.720 team is important. It's important for every rivalry game. That's what. 369 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:02.160 That's really what the biggest nugget is. No matter what 370 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:05.920 the circumstances are from from year to year. But for Utah, 371 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:11.720 they're coming into the game playing an undefeated top fifteen, 372 00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:14.839 ranked top ten team whatever by u is and whatever 373 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.240 pole at the moment, and deservedly so they're playing by 374 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:21.960 an undefeated team. Then next week they have to go 375 00:18:22.079 --> 00:18:26.200 to Colorado who's playing very well. And then they come 376 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:29.920 home and they have to play Iowa State, another top 377 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.319 top conference team, and then they finish a season at 378 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:36.440 Central Florida, which you would say, oh, well, that's not good. 379 00:18:36.599 --> 00:18:41.440 That might be an important game for this Bowl eligibility thing. 380 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.319 With those games that Utah has in front of them, 381 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:47.039 you know, they've got to get to six wins to 382 00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:50.160 be Bowl eligible. Yeah, okay, some you know, you just 383 00:18:50.240 --> 00:18:52.240 use the phrase or throwaway bowl whether you're going to 384 00:18:52.279 --> 00:18:55.680 the the Sun Coast Bowl or the Alamo Bowl or 385 00:18:55.720 --> 00:19:00.279 the you know whatever it is in in Paducaville or 386 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.000 wherever it's going to be. That's still something for a 387 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:06.720 school that wants to keep its record intact and it's 388 00:19:06.720 --> 00:19:11.160 string intact and having something to play for other than 389 00:19:11.200 --> 00:19:13.400 the game in front of in front of you. 390 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:13.799 That you have. 391 00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:17.920 So so these are all important games for Utah and 392 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:21.599 then you ratcheted up for BYU that's that would love 393 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:24.839 to go undefeated and get to the conference championship game 394 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:29.799 and see what happens as far as the CFP type situation. 395 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:33.759 So it's big other than the rivalry aspect of it 396 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:34.519 for both teams. 397 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:37.359 Yes, it is all right. Before we catch a break, 398 00:19:37.400 --> 00:19:39.039 we'll do a little jazz coming up. I looked at 399 00:19:39.079 --> 00:19:41.400 the schedule. This could be zero to twenty or maybe 400 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:44.680 even worse. Let's bring in Ken from Lifestyle Men's Health 401 00:19:44.759 --> 00:19:46.319