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<v Speaker 1>While looking at the twenty twenty election, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most starting discoveries was that people who sold their homes

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<v Speaker 1>and moved out of the state were actually still voting

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<v Speaker 1>from their Florida residences. So Chris Jerson created the People's

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<v Speaker 1>Audit to help Florida citizens check who's voting from their homes.

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<v Speaker 1>But since twenty twenty four, he's joined forces with ego AI,

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<v Speaker 1>a firm to build a new system called Elie e

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<v Speaker 1>Lly that currently monitors forty six states and DC. Chris Jersky,

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<v Speaker 1>you welcome into the Stone Zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for having me back.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Chris, how do you feel about the President's address

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<v Speaker 1>the other night and what are the implications.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, much like you and some of the other people

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<v Speaker 2>that fought all the way through twenty twenty, and especially

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<v Speaker 2>some of the people that went up to Washington for

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<v Speaker 2>January sixth to feel vindicated to at least be that

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<v Speaker 2>it's been addressed. But just like you said earlier, we're

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<v Speaker 2>still waiting, hopeful, and waiting for the arrest because there

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<v Speaker 2>is no real solutions until people go to jail and

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<v Speaker 2>are punished for what they did here. And the other

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<v Speaker 2>thing is that the systems themselves, the systems are all

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<v Speaker 2>still in place. Exactly what we had in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>is all. That entire regime is still in place.

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<v Speaker 1>That is precisely my concern. I mean, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I am astounded by the mainstream media and their democratic

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<v Speaker 1>handmaiden's ability to continue to say with a straight face

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<v Speaker 1>that there's no evidence whatsoever of electionaire regularities, no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of voter fraud, no evidence of ballot fraud, no evidence

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<v Speaker 1>of problems with paper ballots, mail in ballots, no problems

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<v Speaker 1>with the machine, and that if you say otherwise, you're

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of a dangerous nut, even though of course

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<v Speaker 1>you have a First Amendment right to say exactly that

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<v Speaker 1>what I've seen, I think you would agree with this

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<v Speaker 1>is overwhelming evidence of irregularities. And let's try to take

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<v Speaker 1>the US apart. Where is the greatest danger here in

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<v Speaker 1>the voter list? Is it in the manipulability and instability

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<v Speaker 1>and insecurity of the machines, or is it in the

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<v Speaker 1>mail in ballots? I mean? Or is it all three?

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<v Speaker 2>It's all of the above. And also I would add

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<v Speaker 2>to that, as the political machinery that sets themselves up,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably know about a lot of the grassroots being

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<v Speaker 2>squeezed out of the local politics in Florida. That's one

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<v Speaker 2>of the oldest ways of basically pushing and manipulating politics.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think the biggest part of the fuel that

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<v Speaker 2>goes into the steel starts with the voter rolls and

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<v Speaker 2>it ends up with mail in ballots. Mostly they can

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<v Speaker 2>generate as many voters as they need and then with

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<v Speaker 2>mail in ballots send those votes in.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do we fix our voter lists? So let's

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<v Speaker 1>start there.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest thing is that there's laws already on the books. NIVRA,

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<v Speaker 2>which stands for the National Voter Registration Act, that was

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<v Speaker 2>created in nineteen ninety three, long before the machines came along,

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<v Speaker 2>was clear and black and white that the citizens, the

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<v Speaker 2>voter rolls belong to the citizens, and that the locals

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<v Speaker 2>have a duty to make sure that the voter roles

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<v Speaker 2>are cleaned of what's very important in eligible voters. A

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<v Speaker 2>lot of the problems we have now with most of

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<v Speaker 2>these states, because I monitor changes month to month, is

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<v Speaker 2>they're not removing anybody most of the time. They basically

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<v Speaker 2>just go ahead and mark people as inactive and then

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<v Speaker 2>they keep them on the voter roles. And it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like fuel that whenever they need to have an

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<v Speaker 2>extra vote, they have this pool of people that they

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<v Speaker 2>can pull from, either be it real or people that

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<v Speaker 2>have moved out of state or died. The reality is

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<v Speaker 2>is that there's just a number of ways that they

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<v Speaker 2>could reach in and grab these voters and then basically

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<v Speaker 2>set them as a mail in ballot. And it's happened

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again. People show up at the polls

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<v Speaker 2>and they and they're being told at the polls that

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<v Speaker 2>they've already voted when they had no idea what they're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. So essentially, mail in ballots are coming in

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<v Speaker 2>for these people when they're not paying attention and voting

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<v Speaker 2>on their behalf.

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<v Speaker 1>So how do we fix this.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things we did was we built a

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<v Speaker 2>system called ELI that is going through and following NIVRA

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<v Speaker 2>that law to a tee essentially using the tools that

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<v Speaker 2>they outlined in nineteen ninety four to how to clean

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<v Speaker 2>the voter roles. But it goes far beyond that. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>it's basically citizen involvement. We've seen the biggest tides turn

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<v Speaker 2>when citizens and the grassroots get involved, and our system

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<v Speaker 2>is designed to have volunteers come in and over and

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<v Speaker 2>basically give them the opportunity to look over their local

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<v Speaker 2>voter roles and find issues and bring those to their

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<v Speaker 2>local officials. And I think that's really what was the model.

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<v Speaker 2>In Florida. We removed like two million voters out of

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<v Speaker 2>the voter rolls between twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>and a grand majority of those just happened to be

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<v Speaker 2>a Democrat. Wasn't like we were looking for them. But

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest problems we had in Florida were like a

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<v Speaker 2>part and complexes and things like that. People moved out

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<v Speaker 2>and basically we're already living in another state just they

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<v Speaker 2>were never removed from the voter roles. But it goes

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<v Speaker 2>more than that. I mean, ultimately we have to get

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<v Speaker 2>back to a paper ballot and a basically a hand

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<v Speaker 2>counted paper ballot at the local station. That I think

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be the ultimate solution. The voter roles

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<v Speaker 2>are just the first start of it, and the voter

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<v Speaker 2>roles are ongoing throughout the entire year, whereas our elections

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<v Speaker 2>just happened on that hopefully one day instead of like

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<v Speaker 2>in California, for an entire month.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm want to ask who you thought of that

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles election because it seemed to me, Look, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a mathematician, but it seemed to me that these

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<v Speaker 1>late arriving ballots defied mathematical probability when they went eighty

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<v Speaker 1>percent for the candidate who was an election night was

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<v Speaker 1>running third and a poor third. She even conceded. And

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<v Speaker 1>then suddenly there's in the days afterwards, there's a spurt

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands of new ballots and there's two Democrats in

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<v Speaker 1>the race. Remember they had this jungle primary system in

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<v Speaker 1>which any candidate of any party runs in one election,

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<v Speaker 1>So you have multiple Democrats in this case, I think

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<v Speaker 1>you had also had multiple Republicans, but one principal Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you see this influx of ballots that defy mathematical probability.

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<v Speaker 1>But we both know nothing will be done about that,

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<v Speaker 1>will it?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I mean the people keep on waking up and

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<v Speaker 2>seeing it. I think that where we started in twenty twenty,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in Florida, when we said that the voter or

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<v Speaker 2>the elections were rigg tear, they kind of laughed it off.

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<v Speaker 2>But after Terry Lake and we's saying the Los Angeles election,

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about more and more people are realizing that

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<v Speaker 2>is the game fix, and especially with these late count votes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the most obvious where they just count until they

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<v Speaker 2>get the right count and then the election's called. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's the whole thing, like we call it, that f

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<v Speaker 2>curve that is famous for the twenty twenty election that

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<v Speaker 2>Biden had eighty milli votes come out of just nowhere

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<v Speaker 2>at the last minute. And as you said that there

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<v Speaker 2>were the grand majority of the last remaining votes were

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<v Speaker 2>all for Biden. If you do anything in math or statistics,

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<v Speaker 2>they usually can can. That's how they do typical polling,

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<v Speaker 2>is they could figure out like where the election is

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<v Speaker 2>going by basically doing sample sizes, and those samples they

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<v Speaker 2>pretty close to one another. It's very strange and absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>suspicious when you see a large number of votes towards

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<v Speaker 2>one candidate come all in at the last minute. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't it doesn't make any logical sense.

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<v Speaker 1>If you really want to see a Democrat or a

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<v Speaker 1>liberal goal out of their mind, suggest to them that

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<v Speaker 1>the computerized voting machines are less than perfect, that they're insecure,

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<v Speaker 1>that they can be act, that the numbers can be manipulated.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen online as you have, and sometimes in person,

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<v Speaker 1>overwhelming evidence of it. But once again, if you have

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<v Speaker 1>the audacity to say in public, you'll find yourself very

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<v Speaker 1>quickly canceled. You'll find yourself like me, no longer allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to be on Facebook, no longer allowed to be on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>no longer allowed to be on YouTube. They take your

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<v Speaker 1>voice if you merely ask questions but addressed for us,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will your view of these electronic voting machines

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<v Speaker 1>and the level of security.

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<v Speaker 2>The biggest thing is is anything that digital can be fabricated.

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<v Speaker 2>It's essentially like why you go buy a house. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to show up and actually sign your documents in

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<v Speaker 2>person with a notary. You can imagine as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>you walked out of that building if it was a

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<v Speaker 2>digitized contract, they could change anything they want, including the

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<v Speaker 2>interest rate or whatever. That's why we as a normal

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<v Speaker 2>civil society have been using paper documentation with signatures and

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<v Speaker 2>witnesses for centuries. As the actual physical presence of you

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<v Speaker 2>basically being there and voting. Anything can be happening with

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<v Speaker 2>these voter machines. They can change who's voting, they can

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<v Speaker 2>change as many people as they want. They can change

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<v Speaker 2>the results at the last minute. They can actually make

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<v Speaker 2>it as much as an audit proof eel as possible,

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<v Speaker 2>because when you're looking through the digital records, it will

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<v Speaker 2>appear that those ballots are there. We've even had situations

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<v Speaker 2>in Georgia where they went through and they found duplicated

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<v Speaker 2>images and fabricated images where the ovals were filled in

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<v Speaker 2>and pressed in for different candidates. And unless you're looking

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<v Speaker 2>at a piece of paper, when you're physically holding a

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<v Speaker 2>piece of paper, you could probably get the sense of

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<v Speaker 2>something's wrong, especially if you see like a flat oval,

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<v Speaker 2>it looks more like something printed at But whenever a

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<v Speaker 2>human touches a piece of paper, there's usually an imprint

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<v Speaker 2>when they're physically filling in an oval, so it's just

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<v Speaker 2>much like your fingerprint. That's why it's very hard to

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<v Speaker 2>cheat at scale. If they tried to basically have a

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<v Speaker 2>hand counted paper ballot, that would put that all to rest.

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<v Speaker 2>At the local level, you might hear every small small

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<v Speaker 2>races where they still do that, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>like they did back in New York. Tammany Hall that

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<v Speaker 2>is much famous is for that. But it would go

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<v Speaker 2>a long way to stopping people stealing a governor's race,

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<v Speaker 2>a senator's race, presidency, things like that, and you can

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<v Speaker 2>cheat at scale. Now when it's all digital.

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<v Speaker 1>You're exactly right. I remember a couple of years ago

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<v Speaker 1>when I went to vote. The person in line in

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<v Speaker 1>front of me, let's call in my John Smith presented

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<v Speaker 1>photo id, a driver's license and stated his address, and

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<v Speaker 1>the clerk behind the desk, who's a day worker, said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, mister Smith. You voted this morning. He said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't. He said, yes, you definitely voted this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, let me ask you a question. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there also an Alma Smith at the same RETI the

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<v Speaker 1>same dresses I am. She looked at the voter rolls

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<v Speaker 1>and she said yes, she voted also. He said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my mother. She's been dead for fifteen years, so

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<v Speaker 1>she could not possibly vote. In the end, they let

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<v Speaker 1>him cast a provisional ballot. Who knows whatever happened to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I doubt it was counted. I got a text from

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<v Speaker 1>a woman after yesterday's show who sent me a video

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<v Speaker 1>of she and others presenting forty three thousand affidavits from

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<v Speaker 1>people in Arizona, all of whom had gone to vote,

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<v Speaker 1>all of whom had shown up at a polling place,

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<v Speaker 1>all of whom had been told they had already voted.

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<v Speaker 1>In this case, the governor Kemp, rather than accept this,

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<v Speaker 1>slipped out the back door of the building. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is an enormous ongoing problem, and I'm not optimistic about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six. I wish I was, But as you

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<v Speaker 1>correctly point out, although I think we've identified the problems,

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<v Speaker 1>the problems don't seem to have been fixed. Federalizing our

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<v Speaker 1>elections is not the answer. It's interesting that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats wanted to do Bill one Senate Bill one. They

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to federalize the elections. I still think it's best

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<v Speaker 1>that states regulate their own elections. But the idea that

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<v Speaker 1>Florida is the gold standard of elections the government holders

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<v Speaker 1>if you live in Proward County, that's a pretty laughable statement.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, it is. Yeah. I mean that's probably the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest thing is, especially when it's digital, you can imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>like as we've watched anything from stock trading or anything else,

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<v Speaker 2>that information is instantly available anywhere in the world. So

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<v Speaker 2>they could steal anything from a sheriff's race all the

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<v Speaker 2>way up to the presidency and they don't even need

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the country because they could be watching

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<v Speaker 2>it from a dashboard thousands of miles away and manipulating

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<v Speaker 2>our final results. And that's what's so infuriating about all

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<v Speaker 2>of it, because essentially, you would think that our local

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<v Speaker 2>officials and especially our parties would want to support our

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<v Speaker 2>local people, but it seems like the internettionalists the globalists

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<v Speaker 2>have basically just bought them out because they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any We've been pushed back ever since the very beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to fix stuff in Florida as well as other

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<v Speaker 2>states to get any meaningful change. We've had a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of small things, cleaning things up here and air, but again,

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<v Speaker 2>the big thing I see is the fraud that's with

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<v Speaker 1>I've taken the view that they use the machines to

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<v Speaker 1>determine the results, then they determine based on that how

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<v Speaker 1>many votes they need. Then they just create those ballots

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<v Speaker 1>based on names on the voter rolls of people who

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<v Speaker 1>either never really existed, no longer exist, or have moved

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<v Speaker 1>out of state or passed away. I think that's exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the game that is being played. So you can't point

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<v Speaker 1>to any one piece of this. It's not just the

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<v Speaker 1>voter roles. It's not just the mail in ballots, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just the absentees, it's not just the machines. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things. It seems to me that they

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<v Speaker 1>all need to be fixed. Folks, if you're just tuning in,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking to Chris Jerski with the People's Audit, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about whether the twenty twenty six elections can

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<v Speaker 1>be free, fair and honest. Chris has done amazing work

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<v Speaker 1>here in the Sunshine State of Florida to try to

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<v Speaker 1>work for clean, fair, honest elections. Now he's working with

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<v Speaker 1>Ego AI firm then building a system called Ellie that

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<v Speaker 1>currently monitors the elections in forty six states and the

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<v Speaker 1>District of Columbia. Chris, tell us about Ellie and what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm really excited about Ellie because Ellie is probably

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<v Speaker 2>the first of its kind that will follow NIVRA, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the National Registration's Voter Registration Act of nineteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>three to the TEA. It's really the only federally backed

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<v Speaker 2>compliance tool that we have to watch the voter roles,

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<v Speaker 2>and the main reason for that is because we're checking

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<v Speaker 2>to see if people have moved, if they've died, or

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<v Speaker 2>if they've registered in another state, and we also give

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<v Speaker 2>that information to the both local county officials as well

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<v Speaker 2>as the citizens for free. We do ask for donations

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<v Speaker 2>to help us out with voter roles. Voter roles are

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<v Speaker 2>quite expensive in some states, like in a case of

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama with forty thousand dollars just to ask for one

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<v Speaker 2>instance of a voter role. But that system is basically

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<v Speaker 2>probably the just a complete game changer where you can

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<v Speaker 2>click on a voter and you can immediately see now

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<v Speaker 2>where they've moved to. We even have property data to

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<v Speaker 2>see if they've now deed a house and that new state.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have group beyond a shadow of a doubt

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<v Speaker 1>It's quite simple, but it's really quite brilliant. All you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing here is taking the list of known individuals who

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<v Speaker 1>have moved, registered in other states and so on, in

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<v Speaker 1>comparing it to the voter roles. Of course, they make

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<v Speaker 1>it as expensive as possible. Of course, if people want

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<v Speaker 1>to find you and support your work, where can they go?

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<v Speaker 2>The easiest thing to do is to come to our

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<v Speaker 2>website at the People's one that's going to be the

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<v Speaker 2>hyphen People's Hyphenaudit dot org, and there they'll find links

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<v Speaker 2>to my substack, my telegram and x as well as

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<v Speaker 2>we'll put some links out there to start inviting people

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<v Speaker 2>to Ellie. Right now is invitation only, but we're basically

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<v Speaker 2>up to about five hundred members from various states. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just a lot of training to go into that system

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<v Speaker 2>right away. So we want to make sure people get

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<v Speaker 2>their hands held and know what to do when they're

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<v Speaker 2>end of that data because it could be overwhelming.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So here's the man with the plan, Chris Jurskie,

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<v Speaker 1>who's joined us, and I think we did a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good job here today at outlining the need for reform.

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<v Speaker 1>It's still hard for me to believe that six years

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<v Speaker 1>after the fact, six years after what I think was

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<v Speaker 1>quite obviously the discrepancies, the anomalies, the outright fraud in

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty election, we're still arguing about this, but

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<v Speaker 1>as you correctly point out, both parties seem to be

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<v Speaker 1>in on it, at least in some states, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody else raising these questions that's why it's up to

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<v Speaker 1>citizens like Chris Jersky and the People's Audit