Speaker 1: While looking at the twenty twenty election, one of the
Speaker 1: most starting discoveries was that people who sold their homes
Speaker 1: and moved out of the state were actually still voting
Speaker 1: from their Florida residences. So Chris Jerson created the People's
Speaker 1: Audit to help Florida citizens check who's voting from their homes.
Speaker 1: But since twenty twenty four, he's joined forces with ego AI,
Speaker 1: a firm to build a new system called Elie e
Speaker 1: Lly that currently monitors forty six states and DC. Chris Jersky,
Speaker 1: you welcome into the Stone Zone.
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 1: So, Chris, how do you feel about the President's address
Speaker 1: the other night and what are the implications.
Speaker 2: Well, much like you and some of the other people
Speaker 2: that fought all the way through twenty twenty, and especially
Speaker 2: some of the people that went up to Washington for
Speaker 2: January sixth to feel vindicated to at least be that
Speaker 2: it's been addressed. But just like you said earlier, we're
Speaker 2: still waiting, hopeful, and waiting for the arrest because there
Speaker 2: is no real solutions until people go to jail and
Speaker 2: are punished for what they did here. And the other
Speaker 2: thing is that the systems themselves, the systems are all
Speaker 2: still in place. Exactly what we had in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: is all. That entire regime is still in place.
Speaker 1: That is precisely my concern. I mean, first of all,
Speaker 1: I am astounded by the mainstream media and their democratic
Speaker 1: handmaiden's ability to continue to say with a straight face
Speaker 1: that there's no evidence whatsoever of electionaire regularities, no evidence
Speaker 1: of voter fraud, no evidence of ballot fraud, no evidence
Speaker 1: of problems with paper ballots, mail in ballots, no problems
Speaker 1: with the machine, and that if you say otherwise, you're
Speaker 1: some kind of a dangerous nut, even though of course
Speaker 1: you have a First Amendment right to say exactly that
Speaker 1: what I've seen, I think you would agree with this
Speaker 1: is overwhelming evidence of irregularities. And let's try to take
Speaker 1: the US apart. Where is the greatest danger here in
Speaker 1: the voter list? Is it in the manipulability and instability
Speaker 1: and insecurity of the machines, or is it in the
Speaker 1: mail in ballots? I mean? Or is it all three?
Speaker 2: It's all of the above. And also I would add
Speaker 2: to that, as the political machinery that sets themselves up,
Speaker 2: you probably know about a lot of the grassroots being
Speaker 2: squeezed out of the local politics in Florida. That's one
Speaker 2: of the oldest ways of basically pushing and manipulating politics.
Speaker 2: But I think the biggest part of the fuel that
Speaker 2: goes into the steel starts with the voter rolls and
Speaker 2: it ends up with mail in ballots. Mostly they can
Speaker 2: generate as many voters as they need and then with
Speaker 2: mail in ballots send those votes in.
Speaker 1: So how do we fix our voter lists? So let's
Speaker 1: start there.
Speaker 2: The biggest thing is that there's laws already on the books. NIVRA,
Speaker 2: which stands for the National Voter Registration Act, that was
Speaker 2: created in nineteen ninety three, long before the machines came along,
Speaker 2: was clear and black and white that the citizens, the
Speaker 2: voter rolls belong to the citizens, and that the locals
Speaker 2: have a duty to make sure that the voter roles
Speaker 2: are cleaned of what's very important in eligible voters. A
Speaker 2: lot of the problems we have now with most of
Speaker 2: these states, because I monitor changes month to month, is
Speaker 2: they're not removing anybody most of the time. They basically
Speaker 2: just go ahead and mark people as inactive and then
Speaker 2: they keep them on the voter roles. And it's kind
Speaker 2: of like fuel that whenever they need to have an
Speaker 2: extra vote, they have this pool of people that they
Speaker 2: can pull from, either be it real or people that
Speaker 2: have moved out of state or died. The reality is
Speaker 2: is that there's just a number of ways that they
Speaker 2: could reach in and grab these voters and then basically
Speaker 2: set them as a mail in ballot. And it's happened
Speaker 2: over and over again. People show up at the polls
Speaker 2: and they and they're being told at the polls that
Speaker 2: they've already voted when they had no idea what they're
Speaker 2: talking about. So essentially, mail in ballots are coming in
Speaker 2: for these people when they're not paying attention and voting
Speaker 2: on their behalf.
Speaker 1: So how do we fix this.
Speaker 2: One of the things we did was we built a
Speaker 2: system called ELI that is going through and following NIVRA
Speaker 2: that law to a tee essentially using the tools that
Speaker 2: they outlined in nineteen ninety four to how to clean
Speaker 2: the voter roles. But it goes far beyond that. Really,
Speaker 2: it's basically citizen involvement. We've seen the biggest tides turn
Speaker 2: when citizens and the grassroots get involved, and our system
Speaker 2: is designed to have volunteers come in and over and
Speaker 2: basically give them the opportunity to look over their local
Speaker 2: voter roles and find issues and bring those to their
Speaker 2: local officials. And I think that's really what was the model.
Speaker 2: In Florida. We removed like two million voters out of
Speaker 2: the voter rolls between twenty twenty four and twenty twenty five,
Speaker 2: and a grand majority of those just happened to be
Speaker 2: a Democrat. Wasn't like we were looking for them. But
Speaker 2: the biggest problems we had in Florida were like a
Speaker 2: part and complexes and things like that. People moved out
Speaker 2: and basically we're already living in another state just they
Speaker 2: were never removed from the voter roles. But it goes
Speaker 2: more than that. I mean, ultimately we have to get
Speaker 2: back to a paper ballot and a basically a hand
Speaker 2: counted paper ballot at the local station. That I think
Speaker 2: is going to be the ultimate solution. The voter roles
Speaker 2: are just the first start of it, and the voter
Speaker 2: roles are ongoing throughout the entire year, whereas our elections
Speaker 2: just happened on that hopefully one day instead of like
Speaker 2: in California, for an entire month.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm want to ask who you thought of that
Speaker 1: Los Angeles election because it seemed to me, Look, I'm
Speaker 1: not a mathematician, but it seemed to me that these
Speaker 1: late arriving ballots defied mathematical probability when they went eighty
Speaker 1: percent for the candidate who was an election night was
Speaker 1: running third and a poor third. She even conceded. And
Speaker 1: then suddenly there's in the days afterwards, there's a spurt
Speaker 1: of thousands of new ballots and there's two Democrats in
Speaker 1: the race. Remember they had this jungle primary system in
Speaker 1: which any candidate of any party runs in one election,
Speaker 1: So you have multiple Democrats in this case, I think
Speaker 1: you had also had multiple Republicans, but one principal Republican.
Speaker 1: Then you see this influx of ballots that defy mathematical probability.
Speaker 1: But we both know nothing will be done about that,
Speaker 1: will it?
Speaker 2: Well? I mean the people keep on waking up and
Speaker 2: seeing it. I think that where we started in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: especially in Florida, when we said that the voter or
Speaker 2: the elections were rigg tear, they kind of laughed it off.
Speaker 2: But after Terry Lake and we's saying the Los Angeles election,
Speaker 2: you're talking about more and more people are realizing that
Speaker 2: is the game fix, and especially with these late count votes,
Speaker 2: that's the most obvious where they just count until they
Speaker 2: get the right count and then the election's called. But
Speaker 2: that's the whole thing, like we call it, that f
Speaker 2: curve that is famous for the twenty twenty election that
Speaker 2: Biden had eighty milli votes come out of just nowhere
Speaker 2: at the last minute. And as you said that there
Speaker 2: were the grand majority of the last remaining votes were
Speaker 2: all for Biden. If you do anything in math or statistics,
Speaker 2: they usually can can. That's how they do typical polling,
Speaker 2: is they could figure out like where the election is
Speaker 2: going by basically doing sample sizes, and those samples they
Speaker 2: pretty close to one another. It's very strange and absolutely
Speaker 2: suspicious when you see a large number of votes towards
Speaker 2: one candidate come all in at the last minute. It
Speaker 2: doesn't it doesn't make any logical sense.
Speaker 1: If you really want to see a Democrat or a
Speaker 1: liberal goal out of their mind, suggest to them that
Speaker 1: the computerized voting machines are less than perfect, that they're insecure,
Speaker 1: that they can be act, that the numbers can be manipulated.
Speaker 1: I've seen online as you have, and sometimes in person,
Speaker 1: overwhelming evidence of it. But once again, if you have
Speaker 1: the audacity to say in public, you'll find yourself very
Speaker 1: quickly canceled. You'll find yourself like me, no longer allowed
Speaker 1: to be on Facebook, no longer allowed to be on Instagram,
Speaker 1: no longer allowed to be on YouTube. They take your
Speaker 1: voice if you merely ask questions but addressed for us,
Speaker 1: if you will your view of these electronic voting machines
Speaker 1: and the level of security.
Speaker 2: The biggest thing is is anything that digital can be fabricated.
Speaker 2: It's essentially like why you go buy a house. You
Speaker 2: have to show up and actually sign your documents in
Speaker 2: person with a notary. You can imagine as soon as
Speaker 2: you walked out of that building if it was a
Speaker 2: digitized contract, they could change anything they want, including the
Speaker 2: interest rate or whatever. That's why we as a normal
Speaker 2: civil society have been using paper documentation with signatures and
Speaker 2: witnesses for centuries. As the actual physical presence of you
Speaker 2: basically being there and voting. Anything can be happening with
Speaker 2: these voter machines. They can change who's voting, they can
Speaker 2: change as many people as they want. They can change
Speaker 2: the results at the last minute. They can actually make
Speaker 2: it as much as an audit proof eel as possible,
Speaker 2: because when you're looking through the digital records, it will
Speaker 2: appear that those ballots are there. We've even had situations
Speaker 2: in Georgia where they went through and they found duplicated
Speaker 2: images and fabricated images where the ovals were filled in
Speaker 2: and pressed in for different candidates. And unless you're looking
Speaker 2: at a piece of paper, when you're physically holding a
Speaker 2: piece of paper, you could probably get the sense of
Speaker 2: something's wrong, especially if you see like a flat oval,
Speaker 2: it looks more like something printed at But whenever a
Speaker 2: human touches a piece of paper, there's usually an imprint
Speaker 2: when they're physically filling in an oval, so it's just
Speaker 2: much like your fingerprint. That's why it's very hard to
Speaker 2: cheat at scale. If they tried to basically have a
Speaker 2: hand counted paper ballot, that would put that all to rest.
Speaker 2: At the local level, you might hear every small small
Speaker 2: races where they still do that, and it was just
Speaker 2: like they did back in New York. Tammany Hall that
Speaker 2: is much famous is for that. But it would go
Speaker 2: a long way to stopping people stealing a governor's race,
Speaker 2: a senator's race, presidency, things like that, and you can
Speaker 2: cheat at scale. Now when it's all digital.
Speaker 1: You're exactly right. I remember a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: when I went to vote. The person in line in
Speaker 1: front of me, let's call in my John Smith presented
Speaker 1: photo id, a driver's license and stated his address, and
Speaker 1: the clerk behind the desk, who's a day worker, said, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, mister Smith. You voted this morning. He said, no,
Speaker 1: I haven't. He said, yes, you definitely voted this morning.
Speaker 1: And he said, let me ask you a question. Is
Speaker 1: there also an Alma Smith at the same RETI the
Speaker 1: same dresses I am. She looked at the voter rolls
Speaker 1: and she said yes, she voted also. He said, well,
Speaker 1: that's my mother. She's been dead for fifteen years, so
Speaker 1: she could not possibly vote. In the end, they let
Speaker 1: him cast a provisional ballot. Who knows whatever happened to it.
Speaker 1: I doubt it was counted. I got a text from
Speaker 1: a woman after yesterday's show who sent me a video
Speaker 1: of she and others presenting forty three thousand affidavits from
Speaker 1: people in Arizona, all of whom had gone to vote,
Speaker 1: all of whom had shown up at a polling place,
Speaker 1: all of whom had been told they had already voted.
Speaker 1: In this case, the governor Kemp, rather than accept this,
Speaker 1: slipped out the back door of the building. So this
Speaker 1: is an enormous ongoing problem, and I'm not optimistic about
Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I wish I was, But as you
Speaker 1: correctly point out, although I think we've identified the problems,
Speaker 1: the problems don't seem to have been fixed. Federalizing our
Speaker 1: elections is not the answer. It's interesting that's what the
Speaker 1: Democrats wanted to do Bill one Senate Bill one. They
Speaker 1: wanted to federalize the elections. I still think it's best
Speaker 1: that states regulate their own elections. But the idea that
Speaker 1: Florida is the gold standard of elections the government holders
Speaker 1: if you live in Proward County, that's a pretty laughable statement.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, it is. Yeah. I mean that's probably the
Speaker 2: biggest thing is, especially when it's digital, you can imagine,
Speaker 2: like as we've watched anything from stock trading or anything else,
Speaker 2: that information is instantly available anywhere in the world. So
Speaker 2: they could steal anything from a sheriff's race all the
Speaker 2: way up to the presidency and they don't even need
Speaker 2: to be in the country because they could be watching
Speaker 2: it from a dashboard thousands of miles away and manipulating
Speaker 2: our final results. And that's what's so infuriating about all
Speaker 2: of it, because essentially, you would think that our local
Speaker 2: officials and especially our parties would want to support our
Speaker 2: local people, but it seems like the internettionalists the globalists
Speaker 2: have basically just bought them out because they don't have
Speaker 2: any We've been pushed back ever since the very beginning,
Speaker 2: trying to fix stuff in Florida as well as other
Speaker 2: states to get any meaningful change. We've had a couple
Speaker 2: of small things, cleaning things up here and air, but again,
Speaker 2: the big thing I see is the fraud that's with
Speaker 2: the mail in ballots and the machines.
Speaker 1: I've taken the view that they use the machines to
Speaker 1: determine the results, then they determine based on that how
Speaker 1: many votes they need. Then they just create those ballots
Speaker 1: based on names on the voter rolls of people who
Speaker 1: either never really existed, no longer exist, or have moved
Speaker 1: out of state or passed away. I think that's exactly
Speaker 1: the game that is being played. So you can't point
Speaker 1: to any one piece of this. It's not just the
Speaker 1: voter roles. It's not just the mail in ballots, it's
Speaker 1: not just the absentees, it's not just the machines. It's
Speaker 1: all of those things. It seems to me that they
Speaker 1: all need to be fixed. Folks, if you're just tuning in,
Speaker 1: we're talking to Chris Jerski with the People's Audit, and
Speaker 1: we're talking about whether the twenty twenty six elections can
Speaker 1: be free, fair and honest. Chris has done amazing work
Speaker 1: here in the Sunshine State of Florida to try to
Speaker 1: work for clean, fair, honest elections. Now he's working with
Speaker 1: Ego AI firm then building a system called Ellie that
Speaker 1: currently monitors the elections in forty six states and the
Speaker 1: District of Columbia. Chris, tell us about Ellie and what
Speaker 1: you're doing there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm really excited about Ellie because Ellie is probably
Speaker 2: the first of its kind that will follow NIVRA, which
Speaker 2: is the National Registration's Voter Registration Act of nineteen ninety
Speaker 2: three to the TEA. It's really the only federally backed
Speaker 2: compliance tool that we have to watch the voter roles,
Speaker 2: and the main reason for that is because we're checking
Speaker 2: to see if people have moved, if they've died, or
Speaker 2: if they've registered in another state, and we also give
Speaker 2: that information to the both local county officials as well
Speaker 2: as the citizens for free. We do ask for donations
Speaker 2: to help us out with voter roles. Voter roles are
Speaker 2: quite expensive in some states, like in a case of
Speaker 2: Alabama with forty thousand dollars just to ask for one
Speaker 2: instance of a voter role. But that system is basically
Speaker 2: probably the just a complete game changer where you can
Speaker 2: click on a voter and you can immediately see now
Speaker 2: where they've moved to. We even have property data to
Speaker 2: see if they've now deed a house and that new state.
Speaker 2: So you have group beyond a shadow of a doubt
Speaker 2: that this person has been moved and needs to be
Speaker 2: removed from the voter roles.
Speaker 1: It's quite simple, but it's really quite brilliant. All you're
Speaker 1: doing here is taking the list of known individuals who
Speaker 1: have moved, registered in other states and so on, in
Speaker 1: comparing it to the voter roles. Of course, they make
Speaker 1: it as expensive as possible. Of course, if people want
Speaker 1: to find you and support your work, where can they go?
Speaker 2: The easiest thing to do is to come to our
Speaker 2: website at the People's one that's going to be the
Speaker 2: hyphen People's Hyphenaudit dot org, and there they'll find links
Speaker 2: to my substack, my telegram and x as well as
Speaker 2: we'll put some links out there to start inviting people
Speaker 2: to Ellie. Right now is invitation only, but we're basically
Speaker 2: up to about five hundred members from various states. It's
Speaker 2: just a lot of training to go into that system
Speaker 2: right away. So we want to make sure people get
Speaker 2: their hands held and know what to do when they're
Speaker 2: end of that data because it could be overwhelming.
Speaker 1: All right, So here's the man with the plan, Chris Jurskie,
Speaker 1: who's joined us, and I think we did a pretty
Speaker 1: good job here today at outlining the need for reform.
Speaker 1: It's still hard for me to believe that six years
Speaker 1: after the fact, six years after what I think was
Speaker 1: quite obviously the discrepancies, the anomalies, the outright fraud in
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election, we're still arguing about this, but
Speaker 1: as you correctly point out, both parties seem to be
Speaker 1: in on it, at least in some states, and there's
Speaker 1: nobody else raising these questions that's why it's up to
Speaker 1: citizens like Chris Jersky and the People's Audit