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<v Speaker 1>Disclaimer. We'd like to know before the start of this

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<v Speaker 1>interview that the opinions about to be expressed by the

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<v Speaker 1>guest of tonight's Getting Salty Experience Podcast are that of

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<v Speaker 1>the guest and do not directly or necessarily reflect the

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<v Speaker 1>views of the host of the Getting Salty Experience Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>You're listening to the Getting Salty Experience Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello, that's right, Hello, look Berg back in the chat,

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<v Speaker 3>Mary don Oyle key to Jess. Oh pee wee regulars QCs.

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<v Speaker 4>This's a new guy in the chat too. How do

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<v Speaker 4>you say that?

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<v Speaker 5>Name? Is Procaccini's husband?

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<v Speaker 3>Correct spoken on the phone of me, missus Procaccini's husband.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, how did he get told? These periods podcasts?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know which one? Well, we had a guy

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<v Speaker 3>out here a couple of weeks ago says he was

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<v Speaker 3>the fires But this is the only one that brings

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<v Speaker 3>the fire hous kitchen table to you. Guns.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, for sure we made that guy's day. Believe it

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<v Speaker 4>or not, you get put.

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<v Speaker 5>He's doing a good job. Yeah, yeah, he's doing good.

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<v Speaker 3>When you'll be filling in for you? What is that trips?

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<v Speaker 3>No trip up soon.

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<v Speaker 6>O x A on the filling now x A on

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<v Speaker 6>the how's uh mikey doing?

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<v Speaker 3>And were on the you know, I remember that guy

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<v Speaker 3>with that who is that.

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<v Speaker 6>Velvet the velvet voice, velvet voice you when you got college?

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<v Speaker 4>I have some I mean we can find him. What

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<v Speaker 4>do we have of of Mike? Yeah, you must be

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<v Speaker 4>out your goddamn man. Oh no, it's a different guy.

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<v Speaker 5>He's too smoking.

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<v Speaker 3>He said that to the drill. He must have said

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<v Speaker 3>that to the drill instructor when the guy told him,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like the push ups.

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<v Speaker 4>Sweating like a female.

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<v Speaker 3>Sweating like Mike Tyson to the third grade spelling. I

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<v Speaker 3>was heard at work today, Yes, he was. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>even check.

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<v Speaker 5>Into the track.

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<v Speaker 3>He's busy guy.

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<v Speaker 5>He was there.

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<v Speaker 4>He was definitely what the hell is my Uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not prepared. No, not prepared.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you have a hat on the head.

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<v Speaker 4>Well that's what it. Darn the freeze was saying, no

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<v Speaker 4>guy digging trenches all day today doing trench rescue. A

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<v Speaker 4>little shout out to the yeah, Martin County people.

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<v Speaker 3>Martin County shot out that Mountain County guys out. There

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<v Speaker 3>was a shout back Sabrina company.

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<v Speaker 4>They said they were gonna watch, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>what I don't see that. We'll see I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't see it the shot, we'll see you smoke up yours.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and you didn't. You didn't dig no

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<v Speaker 3>trench today. The chief doesn't dig trenches. Bro, Bro, you

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<v Speaker 3>know I was my hand with a machine.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh by hand? Man what he pointed, pointed the trench went.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you buying out of this? Because I'm I'm calling

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<v Speaker 3>bullshit right here? Bull ship, You didn't dig no trenches?

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<v Speaker 4>No? Oh yes, I did that.

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<v Speaker 5>You used it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you use a nice little back home, buddy, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>You used the back home. You didn't take my hand.

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<v Speaker 4>Nod's still taking it. I'm still digging it.

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<v Speaker 3>Take it by hand? Yes, by hand?

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<v Speaker 5>Ten foot trench. He's gonna dig by hand?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, you didn't dig it by hand? Did you

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<v Speaker 3>use the machine? You said? Of course by hand?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I want to see whats's paying attention? So by hand?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 4>Really?

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<v Speaker 5>I hope them a motherfucker hands hands? Yeah, this hand,

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<v Speaker 5>this is my hands.

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<v Speaker 4>It's old. You know, it's all the hydraulics.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, what do you hydraulically play? The next commercial? Bro?

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<v Speaker 3>How about that? How about eleven?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Stop?

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<v Speaker 4>No? No, how about what we don't do any of

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<v Speaker 4>that ship all right. Let's look.

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<v Speaker 3>My little Italian Buddies. Commercial bro have a free giveaway

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<v Speaker 3>at Indy, so we'll have details on that once he

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<v Speaker 3>sends it to me.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's see what we get there.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, you have got to believe this tip.

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<v Speaker 4>You're ready.

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<v Speaker 3>This actually does go on though on the fire service.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you guys love the job, right, do me

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<v Speaker 3>a favor, and you're gonna tell me I'm crazy that

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<v Speaker 3>this doesn't never happens. Don't get yourself fixed up or

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<v Speaker 3>have surgery on your own time. You know who I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking about in general here roof, but there's plenty of

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<v Speaker 3>guys who do it. I can name about five guys

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<v Speaker 3>who go and take care of things on their own time.

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<v Speaker 3>If you get hurt on the job, go out sick,

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<v Speaker 3>get yourself fixed up, and come back. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>say to you, don't rush things on your own time

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<v Speaker 3>because you don't want to miss the job and you're

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<v Speaker 3>afraid they're gonna put you out or some stupidity like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to say who did that, but I

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<v Speaker 3>can name of quite a few guys. That's all I

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<v Speaker 3>got said about that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what you gotta say about that. I'm right, jim

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<v Speaker 4>He's it. And here he goes. He's staring at the camera.

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<v Speaker 4>He's waiting for his shot.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, do it ready?

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<v Speaker 8>Here we go, coming to the stage f d N

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<v Speaker 8>y one fifty four. Jimmy, ammon, there it is an

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<v Speaker 8>opening day for baseball today.

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<v Speaker 5>Just is it? They win?

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<v Speaker 3>That's lost, yank.

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<v Speaker 4>Nobody cares about the Mets.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm about to throw you out right out of here, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what's let's before we jump. Jimmy's a Korea. Good,

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<v Speaker 3>let's do this. Let's say, bro, let's get patriotic.

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<v Speaker 4>You play the two is all right, Here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States

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<v Speaker 2>of America and to the Republic for which it stands,

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<v Speaker 2>One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to the show. Jim, Jim's got a little he's

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<v Speaker 3>near and the end of my heart roough right, you

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<v Speaker 3>know because he worked with my brother, the rug that's right,

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<v Speaker 3>nearly departed brother. And I'm sure you got plenty of

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<v Speaker 3>rug stories, bro. You also probably work with Steve right, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, I gotta catch it for white sox.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh no, no, he was Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he gave you a pass because you knew the Rug.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 7>You never stayed in our house that long because if

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<v Speaker 7>Steve Ferring.

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<v Speaker 3>Was working, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 7>He's working. Your brother just turned around when you said

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<v Speaker 7>what he had to say.

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<v Speaker 3>The left. Well, you must have seen him too, because

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<v Speaker 3>you got there in eighty one. I don't drop in ahead,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was in probably what thirty eight at that time.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, yeah, so you.

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<v Speaker 3>Got him on the whole lo of like a suck all.

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<v Speaker 3>You got him. He got him as a deputy. Yet

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<v Speaker 3>he was there, he is on c.

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<v Speaker 5>Was like a like a chiaha.

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<v Speaker 7>Sorry, I think your brother would brother find the opening

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<v Speaker 7>shots at Steve and uh at Farring and Steve fired

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<v Speaker 7>right back and part of the whole he was.

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<v Speaker 3>He was, Well, let's go back before that. Let's start

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<v Speaker 3>out where where to grow up? With neighborhood you're from?

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<v Speaker 3>What made you become a fireman? All right?

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<v Speaker 7>I grew up in the town Albertson and went to

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<v Speaker 7>Herek's High school. Uh, volleys, mostly, mostly did gymnastics, did

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<v Speaker 7>a little wrestling my cousin. It's originally my whole life.

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<v Speaker 7>I wanted to be a cop.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh oh, we just we need to stop them.

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<v Speaker 7>But my cousin, my cousin let lived was down, doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>slap chip. So he got me to join the volleys

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<v Speaker 7>with him because would be funny. I joined the volleys

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<v Speaker 7>and I got I got someone in with Tony.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, yeah, wow, oh wait, hold on, hold on here, wait,

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<v Speaker 4>let's you mention Tony. We need to do this version.

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<v Speaker 5>We got to this classic sorry teller. Then oh my god, look, wow.

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<v Speaker 4>He's getting ready to go plow some snow.

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<v Speaker 7>Or something else.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. Well, wow, Alan goes back. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 3>he's in the chat today. He'll see this.

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<v Speaker 5>So he was crazy about the job at that time too.

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<v Speaker 5>How you guys were both for the job like right away.

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<v Speaker 7>so that's you know, I figured i'd be a cop.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it was your cousin already on the job,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was taking the test too.

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<v Speaker 7>No, no, he uh he went another way. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 7>he actually went he actually became a cop, and then

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<v Speaker 7>he transferred over to the fire department in West Hartford, Connecticut.

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<v Speaker 7>And then I got I got hired for I said,

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<v Speaker 7>and they called, it's not proby school down there, it's

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<v Speaker 7>I got called for Nasau County Corrections and uh, thank heavens,

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<v Speaker 7>that was only a nine month nine month job.

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<v Speaker 3>And how long was there academy there?

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<v Speaker 6>What was that like like doing that being out there

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<v Speaker 7>It really wasn't that much fun. Not many of the

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<v Speaker 7>they were more sorry that they got caught instead of uh,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I think I'm only interacted with one guy

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<v Speaker 7>the last time. You haven't he ever did anything you

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<v Speaker 7>know against you know, breaking the law whatever. So but

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<v Speaker 7>everybody else.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you come in.

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<v Speaker 5>Back all the time, like, uh.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, one there was there was one guy that I

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<v Speaker 7>forgot his name. He was in there for murder. He

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<v Speaker 7>murdered He murdered a girl in a bog with the

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<v Speaker 7>axe and yeah, I hope not at the time californ

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<v Speaker 7>he was also wanted in California for a murder out there,

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<v Speaker 7>and California at the time still had a death penalty,

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<v Speaker 7>and so they they were going to ship him out

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<v Speaker 7>to California. I had a trap. I had to go

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<v Speaker 7>down four flights and an elevator with him and three

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<v Speaker 7>other inmates by myself. So I was I was a

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<v Speaker 7>little I was a little nervous at the time. But nothing,

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<v Speaker 7>nothing happened.

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<v Speaker 3>But you have to slap some wrestler moved down on

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<v Speaker 3>those guys and what not really out. No, it was.

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<v Speaker 7>The one thing you wanted, like you had a routine

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<v Speaker 7>there and they were. They were as a as a privilege.

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<v Speaker 7>They had what was called a late night. So it'

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<v Speaker 7>like there was a basketball game on or a football game,

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<v Speaker 7>baseball game or whatever. They were allowed to stay out

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<v Speaker 7>of their cells for you know, until the game was over.

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<v Speaker 7>So if if you kind of didn't want to have

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<v Speaker 7>have to do that from the offices end, you would

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<v Speaker 7>it was it was, it was kind of it was

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<v Speaker 7>a fun thing to do, but it was it really

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<v Speaker 7>wasn't morally correct. When they went on a movement to

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<v Speaker 7>get down to to you know, for dinner or lunch

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<v Speaker 7>or whatever, you would pull one guy out of the line.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, there's the cell line and uh, you know

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<v Speaker 7>so and so and so whatever it's given given us

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<v Speaker 7>does it straighten out, you know you're gonna lose your

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<v Speaker 7>late night. And you let that guy go, and then

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<v Speaker 7>you pull somebody out of the middle of the movement

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<v Speaker 7>and pulled somebody out of the end. And so now

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<v Speaker 7>you three guys in a group of twenty that that like, well,

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<v Speaker 7>this guy's gonna you know, he's gonna make us lose

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<v Speaker 7>all late night. And uh you know, by the time

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<v Speaker 7>they got back from the movement into the cells, they

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<v Speaker 7>everybody in the cell knows it and they start lumping

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<v Speaker 7>them up. So now there's a fight locked the whole

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<v Speaker 7>the whole cell blockdown. Yeah, you know, you don't have

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<v Speaker 7>to worry about you don't have to worry about the

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<v Speaker 7>late night. From the officer's side, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of think that morals grow out the door as

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<v Speaker 3>soon as you walk into that place.

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<v Speaker 7>Worry about what was interesting too. There was there was

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<v Speaker 7>actually a full blown riot there when I when I

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<v Speaker 7>was working that the news didn't know about. Never never

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<v Speaker 7>made the news, that the whole the whole place. He said, nothing, right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>but any uh any and.

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<v Speaker 4>You do frame stories.

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<v Speaker 7>Zarrow world, it's like world. Some of them. I probably

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<v Speaker 7>couldn't even tell tell on.

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<v Speaker 3>That's crazy job. That's job.

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, Jim, was Frankie Frankie mccotton. You remember it was

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<v Speaker 6>Frankie mccotton work. I remember he was corrections, wasn't he.

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<v Speaker 6>Frankie mccotton was once seventeen.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you remember him. I think he was.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think. I don't think we were there at

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<v Speaker 7>the same time.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh no, no, no, he was New York. You're right,

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<v Speaker 5>he was.

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<v Speaker 7>It was New York.

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<v Speaker 3>Jim was.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>The one thing, the one thing I do remember, I

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<v Speaker 7>was talking with one inmate. They and they transferred back

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<v Speaker 7>and forth. Plus they're not penitentiaries, so you know, they

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<v Speaker 7>go into court or they may go to the court

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<v Speaker 7>in the city. They had to get transferred over to

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<v Speaker 7>Rikers and the the one inmates said they they'd rather

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<v Speaker 7>be in Rikers Island than Nassau County Jail. We were

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<v Speaker 7>pretty strict with movements and everything like that. With a movement,

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<v Speaker 7>you you know, if they were going from point A

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<v Speaker 7>to point B, every time they went through a gate,

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<v Speaker 7>the next gate didn't open up until the one behind

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<v Speaker 7>them was locked, so if she hit the fan, it

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<v Speaker 7>would be contained in a small area. When we started

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<v Speaker 7>doing uh drills over and Rikers and going through Rikers

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<v Speaker 7>and stuff like that, it scared the ship out of me.

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<v Speaker 7>They had all the gates open. If the inmates wanted

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<v Speaker 7>to go off, they would have the whole building and

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<v Speaker 7>it just I was like, I wanted to get the

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<v Speaker 7>hell out of out of there really quick.

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<v Speaker 4>Doing it.

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<v Speaker 7>It was pretty scary. You know, so you have you

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<v Speaker 7>have hundreds doing it wrong. Yeah, Stephen, but you.

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<v Speaker 3>Get the call o the FD. It must have been

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<v Speaker 3>caught wheels bro right.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, absolutely, yeah it was. Yeah I could. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 7>would have definitely would have been divorced if I stayed

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<v Speaker 7>stayed in the I was, I had, I had one.

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<v Speaker 7>And years years later, you know, we were talking about

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<v Speaker 7>my time at the jail and he goes, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 7>know you would, you would turn into a real shithead,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, you would. You know, it was, uh, I

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<v Speaker 7>was actually probably makes you angry.

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<v Speaker 5>You're angry.

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<v Speaker 7>What happens a lot of times what happened is something

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<v Speaker 7>happens in one of the floors. They'll alert all the

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<v Speaker 7>officers and all right, we're having trouble on B floor

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<v Speaker 7>or whatever, and so the extra guys working on the

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<v Speaker 7>floor would go up to that floor to try to

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<v Speaker 7>contain what was going on. So basically you're going up

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<v Speaker 7>there just.

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<v Speaker 9>With your hands.

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<v Speaker 7>There's yeah, you know, there's no you don't have night sticks,

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<v Speaker 7>you don't have anything else. So you're basically going up

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<v Speaker 7>there to fight. And so you know, you're getting ready

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<v Speaker 7>to go fight. So you're getting your adrenaline. Adrenaline up,

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<v Speaker 7>and then you get there and they see this twenty

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<v Speaker 7>or thirty officers there that that got to kick the

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<v Speaker 7>ship out of them and they got to go to

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<v Speaker 7>the hospital. So then they stop. So now you're there

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<v Speaker 7>all hyped.

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<v Speaker 3>Up, you know, and I know you're to beat anybody

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<v Speaker 3>out right.

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<v Speaker 7>And that happens almost every single tour of your work.

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<v Speaker 7>So it's like, you know, you go out to a

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<v Speaker 5>Oh man, never liked you, yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, and it's so it's uh yo yo, And

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<v Speaker 7>I asked you. I asked my how come you never

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<v Speaker 7>told me I was afraid. I was afraid you did

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<v Speaker 7>me or something, you know. That was that was I'm

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<v Speaker 7>glad I got to do it. But that's I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 7>recommend that job to anybody.

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<v Speaker 3>I bet you, I bet you appreciate b I.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, b I. We're still trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 4>what that is. We don't really want to.

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<v Speaker 3>We're getting a fist fight tussle with some low life

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<v Speaker 3>uhs thirteen guy, Yeah, eight tear drops on his face. Yeah, Christ,

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<v Speaker 3>you get the call? Uh and what what it was?

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<v Speaker 3>Eighty one?

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, September September fifth, eighty one got swanned down a

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<v Speaker 7>city hall like three. It was like three hundred and

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<v Speaker 7>twenty three or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 3>In the class any notables, it's.

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<v Speaker 7>Probably a whole shipload of him. Yes, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 7>never really followed the careers of everybody, but uh, I said,

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<v Speaker 7>two guys on my from my squad passed on nine

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<v Speaker 7>to eleven. Jimmy Jimmy a motto. Uh Jimmy motto is

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<v Speaker 7>yeah he was. He was two people down from me

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<v Speaker 7>on my on my left, and then Vinnie Hallerin was

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<v Speaker 3>He passed fifty four to Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, Jimmy Jimmy came on. When we graduated, five of

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<v Speaker 7>us went to three oh seven one fifty four. So

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<v Speaker 7>I went, I went to the truck. Jimmy Motto, Kevin Kelly,

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<v Speaker 7>uh Ritchie Toshak, and Evan Kelly and Frank Tyrell went

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<v Speaker 7>to the engine. So Frankie Tyrell came over to the truck.

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<v Speaker 7>Eventually Jimmy Motto came over to the truck. The other

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<v Speaker 7>two stayed in the engine.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's so funny as you say they're named, all

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<v Speaker 3>I can think about is this stupid nickname. My brother

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<v Speaker 3>had for them. They all had nicknames over there right.

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00:23:19.799 --> 00:23:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, I don't have like a tick.

428
00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:26.279
<v Speaker 4>Oh I was waiting for the time to bring in

429
00:23:26.279 --> 00:23:26.759
<v Speaker 4>that stash.

430
00:23:28.440 --> 00:23:31.680
<v Speaker 7>Eighty point star. Yeah, eighties point star.

431
00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:36.599
<v Speaker 5>That's number to eighty.

432
00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:38.799
<v Speaker 4>Huh oh wait, sorry.

433
00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:40.000
<v Speaker 7>That's the thing to eighty.

434
00:23:40.720 --> 00:23:42.240
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Jimmy a.

435
00:23:42.279 --> 00:23:50.440
<v Speaker 7>Models badge number was two seventy seventy eight and on

436
00:23:50.440 --> 00:23:56.039
<v Speaker 7>on the the list of our graduating classes, alphabetically, my

437
00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:59.680
<v Speaker 7>name's in front of it is before his, but on

438
00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:02.480
<v Speaker 7>the listening from proby class his was the head of mine.

439
00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:05.240
<v Speaker 7>So he got he got I was supposed to get.

440
00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:08.079
<v Speaker 7>I guess two seventy eight. He was supposed to get

441
00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:10.440
<v Speaker 7>to eighty. But the way it worked out.

442
00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:13.359
<v Speaker 4>Uh somebody it wasn't too smart.

443
00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:15.240
<v Speaker 3>Who took all the bottom.

444
00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.319
<v Speaker 7>But he was The motto was was was blinky right

445
00:24:18.319 --> 00:24:18.640
<v Speaker 7>because he.

446
00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:19.680
<v Speaker 3>Had a head.

447
00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:23.480
<v Speaker 7>He had like a like a TWIGT Kelly was right big.

448
00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:27.960
<v Speaker 7>Then kil built the final named him the Wrinkler. He

449
00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:33.759
<v Speaker 7>was like a super villain because everything on him was rink.

450
00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:38.880
<v Speaker 4>What's fun is man?

451
00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:41.440
<v Speaker 7>So he would open his locker or he would open

452
00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.079
<v Speaker 7>his locker. All the none of the clothes was hanging

453
00:24:44.119 --> 00:24:46.559
<v Speaker 7>on the on hangers. It was all just fronted, so

454
00:24:46.680 --> 00:24:49.640
<v Speaker 7>everything was wrinkled. His money was just shoved in his pocket.

455
00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:51.480
<v Speaker 7>So he pulled out his money and it was like

456
00:24:51.519 --> 00:24:54.240
<v Speaker 7>an unwrinkled so.

457
00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:55.599
<v Speaker 4>Wrinkler that is.

458
00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:57.960
<v Speaker 3>There was some funny names there, bro, I mean.

459
00:24:58.200 --> 00:24:59.440
<v Speaker 5>What was yours? What was yours?

460
00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:06.359
<v Speaker 7>Well, initially before my accident, it was it was it

461
00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:11.440
<v Speaker 7>was right when the Police Academy movies came out, and uh,

462
00:25:11.480 --> 00:25:17.680
<v Speaker 7>who's the guy? The guy had the guns all the time.

463
00:25:17.799 --> 00:25:23.200
<v Speaker 3>That was, oh, oh ship, somebody need a chattel.

464
00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:29.599
<v Speaker 7>Though, we're talking about the TV show, the movies, Police

465
00:25:29.640 --> 00:25:35.400
<v Speaker 7>Academy Movies. Berry Tackle Tackleberry tackle Bear the old time

466
00:25:35.559 --> 00:25:38.240
<v Speaker 7>is nicknamed me Tackleberry for a little while. And I

467
00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:39.799
<v Speaker 7>was the only one in the in the house that

468
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.680
<v Speaker 7>actually went you know that hunted or you know, so

469
00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:44.599
<v Speaker 7>I was big and you know I'm still big into

470
00:25:44.839 --> 00:25:47.519
<v Speaker 7>the firearms and stuff like that. So they would always

471
00:25:47.519 --> 00:25:48.440
<v Speaker 7>called me Tackleberry.

472
00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Now, when you guys became the Northern Knights, didn't you

473
00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.599
<v Speaker 3>get all nightly names too? Yeah?

474
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:59.400
<v Speaker 7>Well, well my brother no no night names. But uh

475
00:26:00.440 --> 00:26:03.519
<v Speaker 7>let's say yeah, yeah, your brother with the rug he

476
00:26:03.680 --> 00:26:06.960
<v Speaker 7>was it looked like like like a Roman like Greek

477
00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:11.920
<v Speaker 7>Greek god type thing so called. I started calling yeah,

478
00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:14.240
<v Speaker 7>I started calling him testicles.

479
00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:25.440
<v Speaker 3>That there after you though?

480
00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:25.640
<v Speaker 9>Right?

481
00:26:26.400 --> 00:26:27.759
<v Speaker 3>Was that he came there after you?

482
00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:28.000
<v Speaker 9>Right?

483
00:26:28.039 --> 00:26:28.400
<v Speaker 7>My brother?

484
00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:32.079
<v Speaker 3>When he coming like eighty do what is it? Did eighty?

485
00:26:35.440 --> 00:26:40.319
<v Speaker 7>I got a book here, a centennial book. When did

486
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:45.680
<v Speaker 7>Richie come on? That's that's a mansine?

487
00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Okay, dingle Berry's Tackleberry.

488
00:26:51.240 --> 00:26:54.039
<v Speaker 7>Somebody's been Tackleberry, Tackleberry.

489
00:26:54.680 --> 00:26:54.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

490
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:59.440
<v Speaker 7>Cubla BITCHI coubla January twenty sixth, nineteen eighty.

491
00:26:59.319 --> 00:27:02.480
<v Speaker 3>Four, eighty four. He came out there, you go, so

492
00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:03.759
<v Speaker 3>all right, not too far after you?

493
00:27:04.599 --> 00:27:07.039
<v Speaker 5>Nope, So how did you get the thumbs? What was

494
00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:08.920
<v Speaker 5>the story thumbs?

495
00:27:09.759 --> 00:27:12.279
<v Speaker 7>That was in the volleys? I was on on the

496
00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:18.799
<v Speaker 7>racing team, and uh, we're doing yeah, well we were.

497
00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 7>We were out of practice and we were doing probably

498
00:27:24.960 --> 00:27:27.480
<v Speaker 7>the least dangerous dangerous event.

499
00:27:27.599 --> 00:27:27.839
<v Speaker 3>It was.

500
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:34.920
<v Speaker 7>Just hose efficiency. Basically, you start with three uncoupled two

501
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:40.599
<v Speaker 7>and a half inch lines and there's a target down

502
00:27:40.880 --> 00:27:43.519
<v Speaker 7>down range. Quickly connect him and how fast you can

503
00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:45.599
<v Speaker 7>you get it. I was a hydrant guy back at

504
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.039
<v Speaker 7>my volley house. That was the first couple of guys.

505
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:52.039
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, the idea is you know, you get your

506
00:27:52.359 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 7>back twist the hose a little bit so it goes

507
00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:59.039
<v Speaker 7>together faster. And then when when you get to the

508
00:27:59.160 --> 00:28:01.039
<v Speaker 7>end of your slack, you took you basically kind of

509
00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:03.680
<v Speaker 7>turn around to get a straight straight line on the hose,

510
00:28:03.960 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 7>so the water goes through faster. And uh the guy

511
00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.000
<v Speaker 7>hit the hydrant and a loop started to come from

512
00:28:10.039 --> 00:28:12.920
<v Speaker 7>the hydrant towards me, and I was I was holding

513
00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:16.119
<v Speaker 7>and my hand just went up like that and my

514
00:28:16.200 --> 00:28:21.079
<v Speaker 7>whole hand went numb. And uh so then when I

515
00:28:21.680 --> 00:28:24.039
<v Speaker 7>I looked out of my hand, there was I just

516
00:28:24.119 --> 00:28:26.480
<v Speaker 7>had the bone sticking out of the out of the hand.

517
00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:30.759
<v Speaker 7>So wal the skin wall the skin popped off off.

518
00:28:30.599 --> 00:28:33.400
<v Speaker 4>The thumb a little bit of a glove.

519
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:35.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's that's a degloving injury.

520
00:28:35.599 --> 00:28:35.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

521
00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:42.359
<v Speaker 7>So they take me to uh Long Ound Jewish hospital

522
00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:44.319
<v Speaker 7>and they had they had a surgeon come in and

523
00:28:44.880 --> 00:28:46.640
<v Speaker 7>uh he said, I'm either got to wake up with

524
00:28:46.759 --> 00:28:50.119
<v Speaker 7>my hand. My hand did a cast that way because

525
00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:54.680
<v Speaker 7>the piece came off fully intact. Because they yeah, they

526
00:28:54.759 --> 00:28:57.279
<v Speaker 7>found it because it sailed. It sailed about thirty feet

527
00:28:57.319 --> 00:28:59.799
<v Speaker 7>or so away from me. But the guys saw something

528
00:29:00.480 --> 00:29:02.920
<v Speaker 7>something go that way, and so they followed. You know,

529
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:04.160
<v Speaker 7>they went over there, they picked it up.

530
00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:05.799
<v Speaker 3>It's like a scavenger hunt.

531
00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:09.119
<v Speaker 7>So the doctor said, you'll wake up with your you know,

532
00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.160
<v Speaker 7>you're handing the cast. That means we were able to

533
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.079
<v Speaker 7>reattach Uh. And then plan B was, you'll wake up

534
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:17.359
<v Speaker 7>with your hand attached to your body somewhere. So that

535
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:19.720
<v Speaker 7>I woke up, I was, I was attached like this,

536
00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:22.200
<v Speaker 7>So I got I got like a scar running from

537
00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:23.160
<v Speaker 7>here to here where they.

538
00:29:23.039 --> 00:29:24.720
<v Speaker 5>Took the ground, took the skin over there.

539
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:25.519
<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

540
00:29:25.799 --> 00:29:29.240
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so I was in I was like this in

541
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:34.119
<v Speaker 7>the middle of summer for over a month. And once

542
00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:37.839
<v Speaker 7>when they when they cut me loose literally you know,

543
00:29:37.880 --> 00:29:40.240
<v Speaker 7>well there's there's a thumb. Now the thumb was about

544
00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:43.640
<v Speaker 7>like that big with all the extra meat. And this

545
00:29:43.880 --> 00:29:51.039
<v Speaker 7>is the result of five surgeries, how eleven months. That's why,

546
00:29:51.400 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 7>that's why I never abused medical leaf, because I you know,

547
00:29:54.079 --> 00:29:55.960
<v Speaker 7>I took advantage of it. I was, I was off

548
00:29:56.000 --> 00:29:59.599
<v Speaker 7>for eleven months, no problem, so you know, and a

549
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:01.480
<v Speaker 7>lot of I take advantage of it.

550
00:30:01.599 --> 00:30:04.160
<v Speaker 3>But like I'm when I tell you it's your turn

551
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:06.000
<v Speaker 3>to tap out because we need some over time tonight,

552
00:30:06.119 --> 00:30:08.759
<v Speaker 3>like that kind of ship. That's why I wasn't.

553
00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:16.640
<v Speaker 7>Light like that, but I said I it helped me

554
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:20.599
<v Speaker 7>having having that unlimited set time, and it's probably one

555
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:22.319
<v Speaker 7>of the best things we have in the fire department.

556
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

557
00:30:24.000 --> 00:30:24.160
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

558
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So you wouldn't get that fixed on your own time, right, No,

559
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:29.640
<v Speaker 3>I knucklehead would.

560
00:30:29.880 --> 00:30:31.400
<v Speaker 5>Well that was I was I was.

561
00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:36.000
<v Speaker 7>I was covered under I was covered under their workman's

562
00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:36.799
<v Speaker 7>camp right.

563
00:30:38.079 --> 00:30:38.279
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

564
00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.599
<v Speaker 7>So I just got off probation when it happened. Whoa, Yeah,

565
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.799
<v Speaker 7>so you came back and you need Yeah, and that's

566
00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:48.200
<v Speaker 7>that's how I got the nickname Thumbs.

567
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, it's a brutal man.

568
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:53.559
<v Speaker 5>I never knew that story, believe it or not. Yeah,

569
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:54.240
<v Speaker 5>I didn't know.

570
00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.960
<v Speaker 3>That that racing was lethal.

571
00:30:57.119 --> 00:30:57.279
<v Speaker 9>You know.

572
00:30:57.440 --> 00:30:59.680
<v Speaker 3>That used to be like on ABC Sports.

573
00:30:59.359 --> 00:30:59.799
<v Speaker 5>That racing.

574
00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 7>Yeah yeah, yeah. They tried, they tried getting it into

575
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:12.839
<v Speaker 7>other states. They used to They used to have drills,

576
00:31:13.799 --> 00:31:17.240
<v Speaker 7>you know, like show drills in Pennsylvania. You know, they

577
00:31:17.319 --> 00:31:19.440
<v Speaker 7>go to different places in Pennsylvania to see if they

578
00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:20.880
<v Speaker 7>can get it started. You know, a bunch of teams

579
00:31:20.920 --> 00:31:24.039
<v Speaker 7>would go down and have have the full the full

580
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:29.000
<v Speaker 7>race race thing and hull. Yeah, never never caught on.

581
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.759
<v Speaker 7>It's it's expensive. There's not hardly any Well, there's still

582
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:36.000
<v Speaker 7>a lot of companies that do it, but it's it's

583
00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 7>big dollars.

584
00:31:36.920 --> 00:31:37.039
<v Speaker 4>You know.

585
00:31:37.119 --> 00:31:39.319
<v Speaker 7>Basically, you got you got two drag cars. You got

586
00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:39.839
<v Speaker 7>to maintain.

587
00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:41.720
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna say the fastest backstep you'll.

588
00:31:41.599 --> 00:31:44.200
<v Speaker 3>Have a be on bro Oh yeah, did you ever

589
00:31:44.279 --> 00:31:46.000
<v Speaker 3>watch it? Rough? You can find it on YouTube.

590
00:31:46.519 --> 00:31:50.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, the agony feet of the Thumb, The Agony of

591
00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:51.119
<v Speaker 5>the Thumb.

592
00:31:54.480 --> 00:31:57.759
<v Speaker 7>That I was at one state tournament and I remember

593
00:31:57.880 --> 00:32:00.240
<v Speaker 7>it was the c rate going down. I think was

594
00:32:01.440 --> 00:32:04.480
<v Speaker 7>we see hose and the guy the guy hit his

595
00:32:04.559 --> 00:32:07.359
<v Speaker 7>first you know, his stop mark for the hydrant. The

596
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:11.640
<v Speaker 7>guy in the backstep flew over the rail in front

597
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 7>of the re attire and the drive of guns and

598
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 7>runs on the Oh, you didn't get hurt that bad,

599
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 7>but you know they still took him to the hospital.

600
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:24.319
<v Speaker 7>It's fun stuff.

601
00:32:24.599 --> 00:32:26.640
<v Speaker 6>I gotta ask you this, Jim, this is a question,

602
00:32:27.440 --> 00:32:29.920
<v Speaker 6>out of the five of you who went to the firehouse,

603
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:31.279
<v Speaker 6>who took the pressure off of who?

604
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:35.680
<v Speaker 7>We say, let's say the first one again, out of.

605
00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:38.279
<v Speaker 6>The five guys, five of you guys went five probies

606
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.279
<v Speaker 6>to the firehouse. Who took the pressure off?

607
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.079
<v Speaker 5>Everybody was?

608
00:32:43.119 --> 00:32:46.920
<v Speaker 7>It was good good crew.

609
00:32:48.160 --> 00:32:49.079
<v Speaker 5>All right, so that's good.

610
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:55.359
<v Speaker 7>Then, well you have all completely different personalities, you know,

611
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:58.599
<v Speaker 7>so I'd say we were all we were the first

612
00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:04.200
<v Speaker 7>ProBiS there probably in for like five years, so we

613
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 7>probably all kind of you know, it took took the

614
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Speaker 7>same you know, it was good that a lot of

615
00:33:09.000 --> 00:33:09.559
<v Speaker 7>us went there.

616
00:33:10.400 --> 00:33:11.640
<v Speaker 5>I was going to say that takes a lot of

617
00:33:12.119 --> 00:33:13.000
<v Speaker 5>ship spread The.

618
00:33:13.000 --> 00:33:16.079
<v Speaker 7>Ship was spread out amongst five of us, you know,

619
00:33:16.200 --> 00:33:18.119
<v Speaker 7>just going there. You know one guy and you know

620
00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 7>he gets the pull the ship on him. So but

621
00:33:23.039 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 7>it's that Jimmy Model. I forgot when Jimmy and Model

622
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 7>came to the truck. But it wasn't I'd say maybe

623
00:33:29.400 --> 00:33:32.839
<v Speaker 7>right after Proby probably, you know, it's Proby period was over.

624
00:33:33.759 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 3>So how did you get to go to the truck?

625
00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 3>You know somebody?

626
00:33:37.160 --> 00:33:39.680
<v Speaker 7>Uh, Well, I had you know, I had the Fairfax,

627
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 7>the Fairfax County experience. So I had three you know,

628
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.480
<v Speaker 7>almost three years under my belt from there already.

629
00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:46.440
<v Speaker 3>So he was there for three years in fairfact.

630
00:33:46.519 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, from like seventy like March of seventy eight

631
00:33:50.240 --> 00:33:53.279
<v Speaker 7>to it was like the middle of December of eighty

632
00:33:53.599 --> 00:33:55.680
<v Speaker 7>I came up. That's when I started the corrections.

633
00:33:55.720 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 4>Gig.

634
00:33:56.160 --> 00:33:58.039
<v Speaker 3>You catch any good work over there a fair fact.

635
00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:00.839
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we caught a few good for there was a

636
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:06.039
<v Speaker 7>lot of It was weird down there they do when

637
00:34:06.039 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 7>you come out of Proby School you were actually an

638
00:34:07.960 --> 00:34:11.840
<v Speaker 7>E M T also, so they run I.

639
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:12.519
<v Speaker 3>Think they do it.

640
00:34:12.760 --> 00:34:18.159
<v Speaker 7>They do. They do that ambulance things better than New

641
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.000
<v Speaker 7>York City does, because we took we took that whole

642
00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.880
<v Speaker 7>thing on and it was it's still really not straightened

643
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:29.880
<v Speaker 7>out right yet, but down there they h it really

644
00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:32.079
<v Speaker 7>sucks righting right in the ambulance all the time, but

645
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 7>there's some guys that really like it. So they authored

646
00:34:37.400 --> 00:34:39.920
<v Speaker 7>a first promotional range. You saw it as a fire

647
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:43.079
<v Speaker 7>Firefighter one at least, I don't know what they do now,

648
00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 7>but it was firefighter one, Firefighter two of the chauffeurs

649
00:34:46.960 --> 00:34:50.280
<v Speaker 7>and the guys who wanted to be in the ambulance

650
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:53.119
<v Speaker 7>all the time. So when they came to work, the

651
00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:55.679
<v Speaker 7>only rig they wrote on was the ambulance, so they

652
00:34:55.679 --> 00:34:59.039
<v Speaker 7>were they were like to shifts the MT and one

653
00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 7>of the guys from the fire house would be assigned

654
00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.039
<v Speaker 7>to drive the ambulance, so he would be the second

655
00:35:03.079 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 7>empty on the ambulance UH or ambulance as they say

656
00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.000
<v Speaker 7>down there, yeah ambulance.

657
00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:11.400
<v Speaker 5>Did the guys in what fifty four or what three

658
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:13.400
<v Speaker 5>or seven know that you were from Fairfax? Did they

659
00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:13.639
<v Speaker 5>know that?

660
00:35:14.639 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So uh but now, originally

661
00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 7>I was I was going to be assigned to one seventeen.

662
00:35:23.679 --> 00:35:28.480
<v Speaker 7>I can't think of that. And the guy that caused

663
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:32.719
<v Speaker 7>a lot of trouble in your firehouse ship, but that

664
00:35:32.920 --> 00:35:33.360
<v Speaker 7>was his name.

665
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:34.599
<v Speaker 9>He's the guy.

666
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:36.840
<v Speaker 7>He the guy who guy who kicked kicked the one

667
00:35:36.880 --> 00:35:40.360
<v Speaker 7>guy in the balls and and punched the proby out.

668
00:35:40.280 --> 00:35:48.679
<v Speaker 3>Or something like that, refractable because he got he.

669
00:35:48.719 --> 00:35:52.719
<v Speaker 7>Actually got fired from the job eventually, and he's uh

670
00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:57.880
<v Speaker 7>he was no, no, no Lions Lions.

671
00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 5>Oh oh yeah, Bobby Lyons. I think it was Bobby Lions. Bobby. Yeah,

672
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:05.400
<v Speaker 5>he wasn't there when I got there. He was already out. Yeah.

673
00:36:06.119 --> 00:36:09.039
<v Speaker 7>I had the hook. I had the only firehouse I

674
00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:11.039
<v Speaker 7>knew was, you know, going to the rock and see

675
00:36:11.199 --> 00:36:14.679
<v Speaker 7>looking up off the Parkway and see the fire Sawyer

676
00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:18.920
<v Speaker 7>Boulevard South. And my cousin was a Port Authority cop

677
00:36:19.599 --> 00:36:22.400
<v Speaker 7>and so I was talking to him, and his partner

678
00:36:22.599 --> 00:36:28.480
<v Speaker 7>was Flood's son, Captain Flood's son. So my cousin talked

679
00:36:28.559 --> 00:36:31.039
<v Speaker 7>to you know, you know, talk to talk and went

680
00:36:31.119 --> 00:36:35.239
<v Speaker 7>to Captain Flood and uh Lions went actually to the

681
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:38.480
<v Speaker 7>firehouse and introduced himself, and he was a sports guy.

682
00:36:38.760 --> 00:36:43.119
<v Speaker 7>He played softball, baseball, that type of stuff. So what

683
00:36:43.280 --> 00:36:47.239
<v Speaker 7>I'm thinking is that Captain Flood called Captain and Charon

684
00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.519
<v Speaker 7>to do to do a flop, you know, a swift blop. Yeah,

685
00:36:50.559 --> 00:36:52.400
<v Speaker 7>flip flop, And I wound up there.

686
00:36:52.519 --> 00:36:55.199
<v Speaker 3>So so the Lions walked in. He says, I'm a

687
00:36:55.239 --> 00:36:57.800
<v Speaker 3>good softball player in the basketball and you came in.

688
00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:59.199
<v Speaker 5>And I think he lived.

689
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:03.199
<v Speaker 7>He went to the neighborhood, and so it's ah, but

690
00:37:03.320 --> 00:37:04.840
<v Speaker 7>I think I got the better end of the deal.

691
00:37:05.440 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 5>So what did they, Jim?

692
00:37:07.360 --> 00:37:10.760
<v Speaker 6>Were they Were they running around a lot in eighty

693
00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:12.639
<v Speaker 6>one when you got there? Were they the winding trucks

694
00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:13.239
<v Speaker 6>running around?

695
00:37:13.639 --> 00:37:13.679
<v Speaker 3>No?

696
00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 5>Not like not like later on.

697
00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:18.119
<v Speaker 3>No, he's got he's got the numbers right there?

698
00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:23.119
<v Speaker 7>Rough what Yeah, I got the numbers. Hold on a minute, let.

699
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:24.239
<v Speaker 4>Me let me go to the book.

700
00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:26.199
<v Speaker 5>I had to be doing five thousand.

701
00:37:28.119 --> 00:37:30.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I think the busiest all right here it is,

702
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:36.920
<v Speaker 7>uh so eighty one, eighty one twenty twenty five hundred

703
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:41.920
<v Speaker 7>perfect that's that's the engine. That's the engine.

704
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh, oh my god, even better.

705
00:37:44.800 --> 00:37:57.400
<v Speaker 9>Before you see, so if I can find it.

706
00:37:57.840 --> 00:37:59.679
<v Speaker 4>Steve Weisman eighty one.

707
00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 7>Uh, we're doing thirty thirty eight thirty eight, one hundred.

708
00:38:03.760 --> 00:38:07.760
<v Speaker 5>Runs in eighty one still a lot, yeah yeah, uh and.

709
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.519
<v Speaker 7>We got up. We peaked out at uh six thousand

710
00:38:11.519 --> 00:38:14.239
<v Speaker 7>and seven. Yeah, I was ninety two.

711
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Wow.

712
00:38:16.840 --> 00:38:19.159
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we stayed like I got your one thousand, five

713
00:38:19.199 --> 00:38:19.920
<v Speaker 7>thousand runs.

714
00:38:20.000 --> 00:38:21.360
<v Speaker 5>And I think now, I.

715
00:38:21.400 --> 00:38:24.239
<v Speaker 6>Think my first year there in ninety three, in nineteen

716
00:38:24.280 --> 00:38:26.760
<v Speaker 6>ninety three, we did fifty five hundred runs. We were

717
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:28.480
<v Speaker 6>going you were going to a lot of pull boxes too.

718
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:29.800
<v Speaker 6>I mean we were going to but there was a

719
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.079
<v Speaker 6>lot of I felt like I was catching work. When

720
00:38:32.119 --> 00:38:33.960
<v Speaker 6>did you feel like in your whole career not to

721
00:38:34.079 --> 00:38:36.199
<v Speaker 6>jump around? What was the busiest time?

722
00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:39.519
<v Speaker 7>Well, that that that period in the nineties that we

723
00:38:39.599 --> 00:38:40.760
<v Speaker 7>were you know, we were doing five.

724
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:42.719
<v Speaker 5>It's felt like you were going to work all the time.

725
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:45.119
<v Speaker 3>I swear like you guys, we would go to Wolf

726
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:47.480
<v Speaker 3>fifty four a lot, man, there was one.

727
00:38:47.639 --> 00:38:50.840
<v Speaker 5>I remember they were going to a lot of work, man,

728
00:38:51.199 --> 00:38:52.960
<v Speaker 5>like a couple one period.

729
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:55.119
<v Speaker 7>I don't I don't know what year it was, but

730
00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:00.840
<v Speaker 7>it's start. You know, usually it gets busy, like before Christmas,

731
00:39:01.039 --> 00:39:03.800
<v Speaker 7>everybody starts putting their heating systems on and putting up

732
00:39:03.800 --> 00:39:04.920
<v Speaker 7>the candles and all that shit.

733
00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:06.800
<v Speaker 3>There was.

734
00:39:06.960 --> 00:39:10.639
<v Speaker 7>There was a stretch from the middle of December all

735
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:13.599
<v Speaker 7>the way to the summer where almost every single tour

736
00:39:13.679 --> 00:39:16.599
<v Speaker 7>you worked, You went to work, you caught a job,

737
00:39:17.320 --> 00:39:20.159
<v Speaker 7>sometimes two, sometimes three, you know, in a twenty four

738
00:39:20.920 --> 00:39:24.079
<v Speaker 7>and everybody was catching on one thirty eight, one thirty six.

739
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.519
<v Speaker 7>You guys won sixty three. So I think that time

740
00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:33.639
<v Speaker 7>was probably the best time as as a whole, because

741
00:39:33.719 --> 00:39:38.960
<v Speaker 7>everybody was sharp, everybody, everybody was on their toes. Uh, everybody,

742
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:41.599
<v Speaker 7>you know, being that we're you know, going here and

743
00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.639
<v Speaker 7>there for work. You know, we'd work well with one

744
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:48.039
<v Speaker 7>thirty eight, were well one seventeen when you know, guys

745
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:52.440
<v Speaker 7>were in a good spot man. Yeah, everybody meshed mesh. Yeah,

746
00:39:52.440 --> 00:39:54.400
<v Speaker 7>it was perfect. Every guy, everybody.

747
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:59.840
<v Speaker 3>Job heavily populated over there, mean the Spanish community that is, you.

748
00:39:59.880 --> 00:40:02.559
<v Speaker 5>Know, I think you think got h all over the place.

749
00:40:03.079 --> 00:40:07.480
<v Speaker 5>H is they got a building, but they have a

750
00:40:07.760 --> 00:40:09.760
<v Speaker 5>huge area.

751
00:40:10.519 --> 00:40:14.639
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we don't really. We didn't really have any brownstones.

752
00:40:15.559 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 7>We had some brownstone types down there at the hospital.

753
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.559
<v Speaker 7>We didn't really have to have any projects over there, right, No, none,

754
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:25.159
<v Speaker 7>none at all, thank Evan's none.

755
00:40:25.280 --> 00:40:27.039
<v Speaker 5>Right, that's what I said. They don't even have anything.

756
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:30.639
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, we did. We had one, I think one building

757
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:35.800
<v Speaker 7>over seven stories maybe including the hospital. We had the hospital,

758
00:40:36.719 --> 00:40:39.920
<v Speaker 7>but really didn't have high rise Left Rock City. We

759
00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 7>went down to Left Rock City a lot, so that

760
00:40:42.199 --> 00:40:44.039
<v Speaker 7>was that was kind of like a high rise down there.

761
00:40:46.559 --> 00:40:50.800
<v Speaker 7>But my first job, oh, I had no idea. I don't,

762
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:51.480
<v Speaker 7>I don't remember.

763
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:52.880
<v Speaker 3>You remember your first job?

764
00:40:53.440 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 7>Not really that guy now that was Funker Gear. That

765
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:05.639
<v Speaker 7>wasn't even that was ninety five. After ninety five yeah, mhm, oh.

766
00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:08.239
<v Speaker 5>Wow, you look like a baby dare for God's sake,

767
00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:10.079
<v Speaker 5>and you already had what happened.

768
00:41:10.639 --> 00:41:18.159
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but what was what was nice about that time

769
00:41:18.239 --> 00:41:21.079
<v Speaker 7>frame was like being we had so much work. It's

770
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:25.320
<v Speaker 7>like just coming into work. It wasn't yo, if we're

771
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:27.119
<v Speaker 7>going to get a job tonight, it's it's just when

772
00:41:27.159 --> 00:41:30.639
<v Speaker 7>we're going to get a join. So you're already you know,

773
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:34.119
<v Speaker 7>you're already in that in that we're got to catch

774
00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 7>work mode. So you were, yeah, you know, you went

775
00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:39.519
<v Speaker 7>to work. You made sure your gear was right, you

776
00:41:39.599 --> 00:41:41.320
<v Speaker 7>went over the rig, you made sure all the tools

777
00:41:41.360 --> 00:41:43.159
<v Speaker 7>were good. You know what you should be doing anyway,

778
00:41:43.280 --> 00:41:47.840
<v Speaker 7>But back then it was just it. Yeah, you just

779
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:50.360
<v Speaker 7>did it unconsciously because you were going to catch work.

780
00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:52.760
<v Speaker 7>So make sure all your masks were operating.

781
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:55.559
<v Speaker 3>You had to spare a botty timing in ninety three,

782
00:41:55.679 --> 00:41:57.880
<v Speaker 3>transmitted five second alongs in three months.

783
00:41:59.320 --> 00:42:03.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and and there you go. He like Dan is

784
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:04.960
<v Speaker 7>probably one of the best lieutenants on the job.

785
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 3>I'll suggesting once it like you guarantee doing a drill

786
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:09.039
<v Speaker 3>that night.

787
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:11.360
<v Speaker 7>Oh, absolutely, and a big drill.

788
00:42:11.880 --> 00:42:15.239
<v Speaker 3>Yep. I was sitting at the table reading something. You

789
00:42:15.280 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 3>were doing something.

790
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:20.559
<v Speaker 7>It starts, the drill starts at A and you're working

791
00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:24.039
<v Speaker 7>your way to B, but it jumps to Z and

792
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:27.480
<v Speaker 7>then it goes to M and then eventually you wind

793
00:42:27.639 --> 00:42:28.400
<v Speaker 7>up that B again.

794
00:42:29.920 --> 00:42:35.440
<v Speaker 5>But it's uh, oh boy, office is there?

795
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:41.480
<v Speaker 7>And uh when I first got there, let's see, I

796
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:46.440
<v Speaker 7>had Lieutenant Howie Kennedy he was, he was a Gordon

797
00:42:46.440 --> 00:42:47.079
<v Speaker 7>Bennett winner.

798
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:47.559
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

799
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.519
<v Speaker 7>I think the year previous when I got there.

800
00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:51.119
<v Speaker 5>Wow.

801
00:42:51.320 --> 00:42:54.119
<v Speaker 7>Uh, Joe donnad Telly.

802
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:55.840
<v Speaker 4>He was.

803
00:42:57.320 --> 00:43:02.199
<v Speaker 7>He flew in B seventeens in World War two damn yes,

804
00:43:04.599 --> 00:43:07.719
<v Speaker 7>and then I and it was Lieutenant Goodman. He was

805
00:43:08.079 --> 00:43:11.360
<v Speaker 7>and his name, his name was a perfect description to him.

806
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:11.639
<v Speaker 4>He was.

807
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:16.079
<v Speaker 7>He was a perfect gentleman the whole time. And it

808
00:43:16.199 --> 00:43:20.440
<v Speaker 7>was Captain Cochera. He had old, old old school guy,

809
00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:25.840
<v Speaker 7>had had twenty years as a captain in one fifty four. Woow,

810
00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:29.119
<v Speaker 7>he lived in He lived in Corona. That yeah, he

811
00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.559
<v Speaker 7>lived in Corona just about twenty. I think it was

812
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:36.880
<v Speaker 7>like nineteen plus years. He lived in Corona. And he

813
00:43:37.039 --> 00:43:39.360
<v Speaker 7>walked to the firehouse every day.

814
00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:42.559
<v Speaker 3>So Corona was shit. Yeah.

815
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:42.960
<v Speaker 4>Wow.

816
00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:45.960
<v Speaker 7>It was a big yeah Italian neighborhood, you know.

817
00:43:46.159 --> 00:43:49.800
<v Speaker 3>So it was yep, wow.

818
00:43:50.880 --> 00:43:52.639
<v Speaker 7>You know, there were good bosses to learn from.

819
00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.320
<v Speaker 3>And uh, when do you go to show for school?

820
00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:58.400
<v Speaker 7>Eighty eighty six?

821
00:43:58.920 --> 00:43:59.760
<v Speaker 4>I believe.

822
00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:02.280
<v Speaker 7>When eighty six?

823
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:03.079
<v Speaker 4>And how'd you like.

824
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 3>Driving? Is all right?

825
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:06.519
<v Speaker 4>I liked it.

826
00:44:06.760 --> 00:44:12.199
<v Speaker 7>So one of my first first details to drive was

827
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.159
<v Speaker 7>to one seventeen and.

828
00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:16.760
<v Speaker 5>Can't be good.

829
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:19.960
<v Speaker 4>I was gonna say earning garbage cans involved or anything.

830
00:44:21.480 --> 00:44:26.480
<v Speaker 4>We always got to bring those garbage cans in here somehow, but.

831
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:31.000
<v Speaker 7>We got we got relocated to Manhattan, which I had

832
00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:33.440
<v Speaker 7>no I have no idea you know the streets of Manhattan.

833
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:36.480
<v Speaker 7>But Dan knows almost every street in the city because

834
00:44:36.559 --> 00:44:39.039
<v Speaker 7>I think he's worked on on pools every place in

835
00:44:39.119 --> 00:44:39.480
<v Speaker 7>the city.

836
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:42.480
<v Speaker 5>So he knows everything. That man knows everything.

837
00:44:43.440 --> 00:44:46.280
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and the thing in the firehouse was you don't

838
00:44:47.360 --> 00:44:50.360
<v Speaker 7>you don't drive Dan, you steer him because he just

839
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:58.199
<v Speaker 7>sell you go here. But yeah, him, that's perfect.

840
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 5>It was good.

841
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:02.360
<v Speaker 7>You know, he had He had a certain way to

842
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:06.760
<v Speaker 7>get into a story that uh, you know, you're keep

843
00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:08.679
<v Speaker 7>in your back of your mind all these all these

844
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:11.960
<v Speaker 7>maybe they're not short cuts, but a lot of times

845
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:14.920
<v Speaker 7>the b q wee was was backed up or was

846
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:17.679
<v Speaker 7>shut down for whatever reason. And now if you used

847
00:45:17.719 --> 00:45:19.840
<v Speaker 7>to go into one, you know, getting to like one

848
00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.000
<v Speaker 7>seventeen the same way all the time you get shut down,

849
00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:25.679
<v Speaker 7>you oh sure we'll go this, We'll just go this

850
00:45:25.760 --> 00:45:26.360
<v Speaker 7>way instead.

851
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.840
<v Speaker 5>So he, you know, it was he was.

852
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:30.880
<v Speaker 7>He was a good boss to have.

853
00:45:31.199 --> 00:45:31.559
<v Speaker 5>You learned.

854
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 7>You learned a lot of stuff from him.

855
00:45:33.679 --> 00:45:35.960
<v Speaker 4>Jimmy, what, Jimmy, what were those objects in the rearview

856
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:36.920
<v Speaker 4>mirror when you were driving?

857
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:38.280
<v Speaker 7>The objects?

858
00:45:38.519 --> 00:45:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, what were the objects? And those were the objects?

859
00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:44.199
<v Speaker 4>What are they? What units? What vehicles? What are they?

860
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:45.719
<v Speaker 4>Are they behind you in the rearview mirror.

861
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:51.280
<v Speaker 5>Oh second, it was.

862
00:45:51.320 --> 00:45:53.239
<v Speaker 4>Kindly we after one of our shirts, trying to slide

863
00:45:53.239 --> 00:45:53.639
<v Speaker 4>it in there.

864
00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:57.719
<v Speaker 5>But I think he Jim. I remember I worked h

865
00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.039
<v Speaker 5>a detail and uh uh he was working.

866
00:46:01.280 --> 00:46:03.320
<v Speaker 6>And I think it was at night or getting right

867
00:46:03.360 --> 00:46:05.840
<v Speaker 6>around maybe seven eight o'clock or something like that. I

868
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:07.119
<v Speaker 6>don't know if I said this when he was on

869
00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:10.840
<v Speaker 6>the show, but like what I remember, we were we

870
00:46:10.960 --> 00:46:13.960
<v Speaker 6>were driving and like you remember when they they used

871
00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:16.440
<v Speaker 6>to dig up the road, they used to put those

872
00:46:16.519 --> 00:46:20.840
<v Speaker 6>metal plates on the roads. Right, something happened where the

873
00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:23.320
<v Speaker 6>plate was like cock eyed a little bit. I mean

874
00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:25.800
<v Speaker 6>the hole wasn't open, but it was cock eyed something.

875
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:27.360
<v Speaker 6>A truck must have hit it and it bounced and

876
00:46:27.440 --> 00:46:27.960
<v Speaker 6>it was.

877
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:28.960
<v Speaker 4>It was awful.

878
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.239
<v Speaker 6>Next thing, you know, we were like off the truck

879
00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:35.079
<v Speaker 6>and got you know again, I would have never even

880
00:46:35.400 --> 00:46:37.199
<v Speaker 6>thought about that, you know what I mean. I don't

881
00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:40.199
<v Speaker 6>remember what we did, but we started doing somethinagling to.

882
00:46:40.760 --> 00:46:41.199
<v Speaker 3>Put it back.

883
00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:47.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it's a dan was the perils used to call

884
00:46:47.679 --> 00:46:50.679
<v Speaker 7>like Perils of Grandma. We'd be we'd be out on

885
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:53.239
<v Speaker 7>a run or coming back from a box and yeah,

886
00:46:53.239 --> 00:46:54.800
<v Speaker 7>we'll go back to the firehouse and all of a

887
00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.280
<v Speaker 7>sudden you go, sorry, make I'll turn here. So you

888
00:46:57.360 --> 00:47:00.360
<v Speaker 7>turn there just like a street sign that got sheer off,

889
00:47:00.679 --> 00:47:06.840
<v Speaker 7>you know, and it's about yeah, maybe six They were

890
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:11.559
<v Speaker 7>pulled Grandma and tailors. So usually if we had we

891
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:14.440
<v Speaker 7>had a junior guy or or proby on on the rig,

892
00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.760
<v Speaker 7>he was the one and kind of make like like

893
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:20.719
<v Speaker 7>bets to see how many strikes with them all would

894
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:23.400
<v Speaker 7>take him to either push it down completely into the

895
00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 7>ground or want to shear it up at the sidewalk level.

896
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:28.760
<v Speaker 7>So but we did that. You know, if you're just

897
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.000
<v Speaker 7>driving back all the turney. Okay, so it's a grandma.

898
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:33.360
<v Speaker 7>You know, we've gotta be doing fixing something.

899
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:35.800
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm doing something right. Yeah, he did that

900
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:37.599
<v Speaker 5>a lot. I remember the guys talking about that.

901
00:47:38.800 --> 00:47:40.880
<v Speaker 3>It was good. So do you remember the first day

902
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 3>the rug walked into the firehouse?

903
00:47:44.239 --> 00:47:51.440
<v Speaker 7>Probably not, but I say I just remember a few

904
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:55.400
<v Speaker 7>times like when before Richie became a chauffur, and he

905
00:47:55.559 --> 00:47:59.599
<v Speaker 7>was a good chaulf too. There was there was you know,

906
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:03.320
<v Speaker 7>if you had the ov position, you know in the truck. Yeah,

907
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:05.800
<v Speaker 7>that was one thing I'd always make sure I knew

908
00:48:05.840 --> 00:48:08.519
<v Speaker 7>who the Sheaulf is the engine chaufers were in the

909
00:48:08.559 --> 00:48:13.840
<v Speaker 7>battalion because you know, some guys are better than right.

910
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 7>And you know, Richie would always get water. So if

911
00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:19.280
<v Speaker 7>I had the o V, I would have no problem

912
00:48:19.639 --> 00:48:22.639
<v Speaker 7>going in the floor above and doing a good search,

913
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 7>you know, staying in there doing a good search where

914
00:48:25.400 --> 00:48:28.719
<v Speaker 7>some guys you know, you know they're working or certain

915
00:48:28.760 --> 00:48:32.480
<v Speaker 7>companies are working. The Yeah, maybe I won't go win

916
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 7>as far, you know, because I don't know if they're

917
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.119
<v Speaker 7>gonna get water, you know. So Richie, Richie was a

918
00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:42.639
<v Speaker 7>good shaulf. But before the break, ye before he became

919
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:44.840
<v Speaker 7>a shaffer. When he when he went in with the

920
00:48:44.920 --> 00:48:47.960
<v Speaker 7>nozzle team, you know, we get back to the firehouses,

921
00:48:48.039 --> 00:48:51.320
<v Speaker 7>Rugg would be all all shift, all shifted around.

922
00:48:54.119 --> 00:48:54.199
<v Speaker 4>Up.

923
00:48:55.000 --> 00:48:57.840
<v Speaker 7>It's like, you know, it's all like cock eid his head.

924
00:48:57.719 --> 00:48:58.159
<v Speaker 9>And it's like.

925
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 5>He never he never thought it looked bad. That's even

926
00:49:05.159 --> 00:49:07.559
<v Speaker 5>that's even crazy. Well, I never thought it looked bad.

927
00:49:08.239 --> 00:49:12.599
<v Speaker 7>The remember when you had Phil tofano on he told

928
00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:14.639
<v Speaker 7>the story about him and to Shak in the kitchen.

929
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:18.159
<v Speaker 7>You know, they were talking about something and Ritchie goes

930
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:21.679
<v Speaker 7>something you don't even know what reality is, and goes

931
00:49:21.719 --> 00:49:27.840
<v Speaker 7>on reality, what that thing on your head? And left.

932
00:49:31.199 --> 00:49:32.840
<v Speaker 3>Had a good offense, no defense.

933
00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:36.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, Richie was that place was.

934
00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:39.920
<v Speaker 5>Tough words with the guys were tough over, funny and

935
00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:40.599
<v Speaker 5>tough man.

936
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:44.199
<v Speaker 3>Phil Bill had a rug too, So it was Phil

937
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:45.800
<v Speaker 3>him and one other dude I think.

938
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:50.679
<v Speaker 7>Had it was Lieutenant Jimmy Johnson. Uh, Jimmy Johnson had

939
00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:54.719
<v Speaker 7>had a rug. Phil had a rug. Timmy Walters had

940
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.400
<v Speaker 7>a rug. So we had like the most rugs in

941
00:49:57.400 --> 00:49:58.400
<v Speaker 7>the Madonna.

942
00:50:00.599 --> 00:50:06.199
<v Speaker 5>On the job. Bald was Bald wasn't in then. Bald

943
00:50:06.320 --> 00:50:08.480
<v Speaker 5>wasn't in then, so everybody was hiding it right.

944
00:50:09.119 --> 00:50:12.480
<v Speaker 7>With Timmy Walter's rug. He was down in the down

945
00:50:12.519 --> 00:50:16.119
<v Speaker 7>in the rat hole and uh, you're back. I'm not,

946
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:20.159
<v Speaker 7>I'm you know how things were in the firehouse. So

947
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.159
<v Speaker 7>he was down there sitting in there. The guy comes

948
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:25.159
<v Speaker 7>up from the from the basement and he goes, you

949
00:50:25.199 --> 00:50:28.960
<v Speaker 7>gotta go downstairs and see Timmy. So I go down.

950
00:50:29.119 --> 00:50:34.400
<v Speaker 10>He's sitting on one of the stools and because they

951
00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:38.320
<v Speaker 10>lifted up his rug and they put a paper towel here,

952
00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:40.920
<v Speaker 10>put his rug back so like it looked like you

953
00:50:41.000 --> 00:50:42.199
<v Speaker 10>know those cartoon quails.

954
00:50:46.119 --> 00:50:47.000
<v Speaker 3>He had no idea.

955
00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:50.239
<v Speaker 7>What was the I go, I go into the TV

956
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:54.679
<v Speaker 7>room down there, and it's it's uh, I just I

957
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:58.280
<v Speaker 7>almost fall to my knees laughing. It's like he goes ja. Yeah,

958
00:50:58.840 --> 00:51:02.199
<v Speaker 7>it's like I forgot something upstairs. I gotta go back upstairs.

959
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:06.159
<v Speaker 7>Almost been making up the stairs. I was laughing so hard.

960
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:08.079
<v Speaker 3>There was some funny guys over there.

961
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:11.360
<v Speaker 5>Man, dude, there were funny guys there. I mean, all

962
00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:14.559
<v Speaker 5>of those guys. I could think of so many names. Yeah,

963
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:23.000
<v Speaker 5>Johnny c right, Yeah, Frats for TAngelo, wasn't Johnny.

964
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:28.320
<v Speaker 7>Remember that Johnny married the girl from the grocery store across.

965
00:51:28.280 --> 00:51:30.559
<v Speaker 5>Across the street. I remember that. I remember that.

966
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:35.119
<v Speaker 7>I remember the grocery store changed owners and he would

967
00:51:35.159 --> 00:51:37.639
<v Speaker 7>go over get to get the meal sometimes, and I

968
00:51:37.679 --> 00:51:40.079
<v Speaker 7>guess he got friendly with the one girl working.

969
00:51:40.320 --> 00:51:41.800
<v Speaker 5>He was too nice for that place too. He was

970
00:51:41.840 --> 00:51:44.039
<v Speaker 5>one of those guys, too nice. Frats.

971
00:51:44.079 --> 00:51:48.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Johnny. Johnny was good people. So I mean, I

972
00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:50.519
<v Speaker 7>think that you know the whole thing with the firehouses.

973
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:52.199
<v Speaker 7>I mean there's there's gotta be some people in the

974
00:51:52.239 --> 00:51:56.000
<v Speaker 7>firehouse you may or may not get along with very well,

975
00:51:56.400 --> 00:51:59.119
<v Speaker 7>but you still have to work with them. So I

976
00:51:59.199 --> 00:52:02.039
<v Speaker 7>mean you can have like like Tooshak was very on

977
00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:04.639
<v Speaker 7>the liberal side. He was very left. Filter final was

978
00:52:04.679 --> 00:52:07.719
<v Speaker 7>on you know uber right, Oh my god, they would

979
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:09.880
<v Speaker 7>they would be going at it fact, but you're still

980
00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:14.760
<v Speaker 7>working together, and you know, and you know, there's you

981
00:52:15.079 --> 00:52:17.159
<v Speaker 7>can't hate anybody because you know, you've got to rely

982
00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 7>on these guys to you know, to come and get

983
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:21.079
<v Speaker 7>you if if you give him a day, you know,

984
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:24.440
<v Speaker 7>or you know you need a hose line real quick.

985
00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:27.320
<v Speaker 7>You know, you have to be able to work with

986
00:52:27.400 --> 00:52:30.039
<v Speaker 7>everybody and and put that, you know, that crap to

987
00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:31.679
<v Speaker 7>the side, and you know that when you get back

988
00:52:31.719 --> 00:52:33.599
<v Speaker 7>to the firehouse and you can start breaking balls again

989
00:52:33.639 --> 00:52:36.880
<v Speaker 7>and arguing. But you know, when when the job comes in,

990
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:38.800
<v Speaker 7>you gotta everybody's got to pull together.

991
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:43.639
<v Speaker 3>So Filter Fattle self proclaimed smartest man on the job, right.

992
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 9>That's right, that's right. He was.

993
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:49.360
<v Speaker 3>He was.

994
00:52:51.800 --> 00:52:56.000
<v Speaker 7>He was interesting when he got to the firehouse. Yeah,

995
00:52:56.400 --> 00:52:58.519
<v Speaker 7>I'm you know, he's one of the guys I really

996
00:52:58.639 --> 00:53:00.519
<v Speaker 7>I really miss tremendously.

997
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:00.840
<v Speaker 5>He was.

998
00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:06.280
<v Speaker 7>He was a great character in the firehouse. Ah and

999
00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:10.599
<v Speaker 7>I'm probably I'm gonna go visit visit his uh you know,

1000
00:53:10.679 --> 00:53:12.599
<v Speaker 7>his wife and his son. When I'm going down to

1001
00:53:12.639 --> 00:53:15.000
<v Speaker 7>South Carolina visit my son, so I usually try to

1002
00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:19.320
<v Speaker 7>stop by and say hello to them. But uh, Phil,

1003
00:53:19.440 --> 00:53:23.559
<v Speaker 7>I remember, I think he just just about got off probation,

1004
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:25.880
<v Speaker 7>or maybe he was just store on probably so I

1005
00:53:25.920 --> 00:53:27.880
<v Speaker 7>think he may still had the pumpkin patch on his

1006
00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:31.000
<v Speaker 7>on his helmet. I'm sitting in the kitchen table. He

1007
00:53:31.079 --> 00:53:33.599
<v Speaker 7>comes in from the apparatus floor and he has his

1008
00:53:33.840 --> 00:53:37.760
<v Speaker 7>like skull and crossbones decal on his helmet, and I'm

1009
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:41.800
<v Speaker 7>looking at him. There you go, let me ask you something.

1010
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:44.400
<v Speaker 7>You think you have enough time on a job and

1011
00:53:44.559 --> 00:53:47.280
<v Speaker 7>enough experience to put that ship on your helmet to

1012
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:50.599
<v Speaker 7>look make it look salty. Yeah, and he's he's like

1013
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:54.400
<v Speaker 7>puts his head down and he goes like noakes. He

1014
00:53:54.480 --> 00:53:59.599
<v Speaker 7>takes it off, but he climb up the Yes he did,

1015
00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.000
<v Speaker 7>uh escape.

1016
00:54:02.039 --> 00:54:04.360
<v Speaker 5>I was at that job. I seen him climbing up

1017
00:54:04.400 --> 00:54:05.559
<v Speaker 5>the escape ladder.

1018
00:54:05.639 --> 00:54:11.480
<v Speaker 7>With with the roofsw Yeah, there's there are pictures of

1019
00:54:11.559 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 7>that man on the job. There's they have pictures of.

1020
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 3>Him going up. So so.

1021
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:22.079
<v Speaker 7>Lieutenant Dan had some words with him after that.

1022
00:54:22.239 --> 00:54:27.360
<v Speaker 5>I think, yeah, that might be thing.

1023
00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:28.960
<v Speaker 6>I remember a guy saying that might be a never

1024
00:54:29.119 --> 00:54:31.239
<v Speaker 6>there's not there's only a few nevers and that that

1025
00:54:31.400 --> 00:54:31.960
<v Speaker 6>might be one.

1026
00:54:32.679 --> 00:54:36.840
<v Speaker 7>And what what is it that ladder emergency has to

1027
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:39.840
<v Speaker 7>be emergency all the time and you're going down, You're

1028
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.719
<v Speaker 7>not you're not going up to the bucket with with equipment.

1029
00:54:43.199 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 7>So but uh, you know, his his his thinking outside

1030
00:54:47.280 --> 00:54:52.960
<v Speaker 7>the box wasn't the right outside the box thinking. He

1031
00:54:53.079 --> 00:54:56.280
<v Speaker 7>made it the chief right, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1032
00:54:56.159 --> 00:54:56.320
<v Speaker 3>He was.

1033
00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:58.159
<v Speaker 7>He was a smart He was a really smart guy,

1034
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.719
<v Speaker 7>right self, smartest guy in the firehouse, but on the job,

1035
00:55:03.239 --> 00:55:04.039
<v Speaker 7>on the job.

1036
00:55:04.119 --> 00:55:06.239
<v Speaker 5>But he took care of me, Philly took care of

1037
00:55:06.320 --> 00:55:09.639
<v Speaker 5>me when I was getting out. He took care of me. Man. Yeah,

1038
00:55:09.679 --> 00:55:10.440
<v Speaker 5>he really did.

1039
00:55:11.800 --> 00:55:15.239
<v Speaker 7>Good good people. That was ah yeah, yeah, all right.

1040
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:17.199
<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna tell the story about the plaque now.

1041
00:55:17.719 --> 00:55:19.519
<v Speaker 7>Oh the plaque plaque is awesome.

1042
00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:24.840
<v Speaker 3>To eighty eight has a yellow gold back plaque with

1043
00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:28.280
<v Speaker 3>silver chrome to eight eight on it. We go to

1044
00:55:28.360 --> 00:55:30.719
<v Speaker 3>a job one day over by one fifty four.

1045
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:32.679
<v Speaker 5>That came off the building that used to be on

1046
00:55:32.760 --> 00:55:33.159
<v Speaker 5>the building.

1047
00:55:33.800 --> 00:55:36.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that was on the used to be on the

1048
00:55:36.239 --> 00:55:38.239
<v Speaker 7>front bumper of the their ring right of.

1049
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:40.239
<v Speaker 3>Two eighty eight toll ring just a two eight eight.

1050
00:55:40.320 --> 00:55:43.400
<v Speaker 3>But pet Brendan made it into the squad plaque. We

1051
00:55:43.519 --> 00:55:45.440
<v Speaker 3>go to this job by one fifty Before we come back,

1052
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:48.880
<v Speaker 3>we notice, Jesus, the plaque is gone. Somebody took the plaque.

1053
00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:55.599
<v Speaker 3>Now mind you, I saw firing and Phil and playing clothes.

1054
00:55:55.599 --> 00:55:58.000
<v Speaker 3>They must have been buffing the job. So right away

1055
00:55:58.119 --> 00:56:04.880
<v Speaker 3>my antennis, why was that? I don't know. So plaque

1056
00:56:04.960 --> 00:56:07.559
<v Speaker 3>is missing. We don't know where it goes. Un Like

1057
00:56:08.039 --> 00:56:11.119
<v Speaker 3>I got to say, what eight months later, maybe we

1058
00:56:11.199 --> 00:56:13.840
<v Speaker 3>start getting there. It is the two eighty eight. Uh,

1059
00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:14.920
<v Speaker 3>there it is real.

1060
00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:17.159
<v Speaker 5>We start we.

1061
00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Start getting postcards from the plaque. And now it's wherever

1062
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:24.360
<v Speaker 3>these guys are taking it. They could be in Disney,

1063
00:56:24.440 --> 00:56:28.079
<v Speaker 3>they could be in Germany. It's and the plaque is

1064
00:56:28.119 --> 00:56:30.199
<v Speaker 3>in front of their face and they say, hey me,

1065
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:32.159
<v Speaker 3>the plaque and New Jersey having a great time. Miss

1066
00:56:32.320 --> 00:56:35.760
<v Speaker 3>you see Sue, you were here, you were here. And

1067
00:56:36.400 --> 00:56:37.760
<v Speaker 3>it travels all over the world.

1068
00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:42.079
<v Speaker 7>I think it went to Japan probably, I think it

1069
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:45.480
<v Speaker 7>went to I know it went to Canada in Cape Cod.

1070
00:56:46.840 --> 00:56:47.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1071
00:56:47.639 --> 00:56:48.760
<v Speaker 5>It's definitely Disney.

1072
00:56:49.760 --> 00:56:52.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and was definitely Disney. But the best plau is

1073
00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:54.239
<v Speaker 3>how they wrote the post because hey, it's me the plaque,

1074
00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:56.559
<v Speaker 3>really miss, We'll be home Sue.

1075
00:56:56.920 --> 00:56:59.119
<v Speaker 7>And I think there were a few phone calls too

1076
00:56:59.199 --> 00:56:59.719
<v Speaker 7>that were made.

1077
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:11.079
<v Speaker 3>Yes and the plot. Yeah. A couple of months after that,

1078
00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:13.239
<v Speaker 3>we get a knock on the door. Open the door,

1079
00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:17.960
<v Speaker 3>there's the plat. I guess they're done with it. Put

1080
00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:20.840
<v Speaker 3>it back on the rake. A couple of weeks later,

1081
00:57:20.960 --> 00:57:24.360
<v Speaker 3>now another knock on the door, and there's like an

1082
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:30.920
<v Speaker 3>envelope in there, and there's a picture of some resembles

1083
00:57:30.920 --> 00:57:33.880
<v Speaker 3>a woman. It resembles a woman because it's got uh,

1084
00:57:35.119 --> 00:57:38.440
<v Speaker 3>her toenails are polished, and she's urinating in the shower

1085
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:39.320
<v Speaker 3>on the plaque.

1086
00:57:47.239 --> 00:57:50.000
<v Speaker 5>We were all like this. We were like, oh, oh,

1087
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:53.440
<v Speaker 5>that's that's that might be pushing it a little.

1088
00:57:53.920 --> 00:57:55.440
<v Speaker 7>That was the worst part of its vacation.

1089
00:57:56.039 --> 00:57:56.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1090
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:02.320
<v Speaker 3>So nearly Neary calls the Matt Neary calls over there

1091
00:58:02.440 --> 00:58:04.440
<v Speaker 3>the answer for the seeding man. He goes, you know, guys,

1092
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:07.480
<v Speaker 3>that was a great great You guys were so funny

1093
00:58:07.519 --> 00:58:09.400
<v Speaker 3>with that. He says, the only sad part is one

1094
00:58:09.440 --> 00:58:11.679
<v Speaker 3>of you guys is probably banging that behemoth.

1095
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:12.039
<v Speaker 9>That was.

1096
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:19.599
<v Speaker 5>He did say something like that. I remember, I remember

1097
00:58:19.639 --> 00:58:22.599
<v Speaker 5>him talking about the feet. He was like yeah.

1098
00:58:23.679 --> 00:58:27.679
<v Speaker 6>But then after that we definitely had like a good

1099
00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:32.039
<v Speaker 6>rivalry going with one fifty four, you know, like a

1100
00:58:32.119 --> 00:58:36.400
<v Speaker 6>little bit here and there, and then like whatever we

1101
00:58:36.480 --> 00:58:39.119
<v Speaker 6>were doing, they would chirp us on the radio. We

1102
00:58:39.159 --> 00:58:41.119
<v Speaker 6>would do something today. I'm like, whatever we were doing,

1103
00:58:41.480 --> 00:58:45.719
<v Speaker 6>and then what what happened? Coops at the at the airport?

1104
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 5>We had run?

1105
00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:53.519
<v Speaker 7>Yeah we got all right, you remember that, Yeah, we

1106
00:58:53.639 --> 00:58:55.280
<v Speaker 7>get we got.

1107
00:58:55.360 --> 00:58:56.639
<v Speaker 5>I was going to ask you that that wasn't you

1108
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:57.239
<v Speaker 5>driving right?

1109
00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:00.960
<v Speaker 7>No, that was it wasn't that. I just saw pictures

1110
00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:02.400
<v Speaker 7>of that. I think I came into like one.

1111
00:59:03.840 --> 00:59:05.679
<v Speaker 6>I forget what they did. You know, they tried to

1112
00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:09.440
<v Speaker 6>cut across like one of the fields or something by

1113
00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:13.639
<v Speaker 6>the by the uh by the airport, yeah, by LaGuardia,

1114
00:59:13.760 --> 00:59:15.639
<v Speaker 6>and they were stuck to the chat like it was

1115
00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:17.920
<v Speaker 6>deep and they couldn't get out. I think they ended

1116
00:59:17.960 --> 00:59:20.559
<v Speaker 6>up having the sanitation the plow guys or something come

1117
00:59:20.679 --> 00:59:21.800
<v Speaker 6>you know whatever, come get them.

1118
00:59:22.119 --> 00:59:25.760
<v Speaker 5>So on Garo, who always had his camera with them

1119
00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:26.239
<v Speaker 5>all the time.

1120
00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:30.320
<v Speaker 6>Garo started like snapping pictures of the rig in the thing,

1121
00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:31.760
<v Speaker 6>and then we started sending.

1122
00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:34.719
<v Speaker 5>Them, Yeah, we started sending them pictures.

1123
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:37.360
<v Speaker 6>And then I think after that it kind of it

1124
00:59:37.519 --> 00:59:40.480
<v Speaker 6>kind of dropped up a little bit, but it was

1125
00:59:40.519 --> 00:59:41.280
<v Speaker 6>always still fun.

1126
00:59:41.320 --> 00:59:41.480
<v Speaker 4>Man.

1127
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:44.679
<v Speaker 3>There was another time, another neary story. You gotta love it.

1128
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:49.519
<v Speaker 3>You know what's gonna involve. He's working at the rescue

1129
00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:52.880
<v Speaker 3>school now at the Randall's Island and who does he

1130
00:59:52.920 --> 00:59:55.079
<v Speaker 3>see one fifty fourth rate there? They must have been

1131
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:58.360
<v Speaker 3>doing some kind of training, right. He goes in and

1132
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:01.159
<v Speaker 3>takes a giant ship and the caught we can and

1133
01:00:01.320 --> 01:00:05.559
<v Speaker 3>put it on the engine compartment fifty four rigg. He

1134
01:00:05.639 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 3>said it was like ninety degrees too.

1135
01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:09.400
<v Speaker 5>Bro, I remember that. I remember that.

1136
01:00:10.199 --> 01:00:12.719
<v Speaker 7>I never heard that's that's the first time I'm hearing.

1137
01:00:14.320 --> 01:00:16.199
<v Speaker 7>I guess the guys who were working that they kept

1138
01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:17.760
<v Speaker 7>that up, kept that on the down low.

1139
01:00:18.159 --> 01:00:22.400
<v Speaker 5>Probably who who is the funniest guy in the firehouse? Jim?

1140
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:28.880
<v Speaker 7>I would I would probably say like Steve Farring firing right.

1141
01:00:29.000 --> 01:00:30.360
<v Speaker 5>It had to be fairy Steve.

1142
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:33.800
<v Speaker 7>It was always fun, you know. When him and Glen

1143
01:00:33.920 --> 01:00:38.480
<v Speaker 7>b Ruby got together, and him and Glen ber Ruby

1144
01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:39.280
<v Speaker 7>got they were like.

1145
01:00:41.400 --> 01:00:41.760
<v Speaker 5>It was like.

1146
01:00:43.239 --> 01:00:46.519
<v Speaker 7>Firehouse every it was. It was just so much fun.

1147
01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Now, I'll go through the shoes from the You're good,

1148
01:00:53.079 --> 01:00:59.159
<v Speaker 3>uh what he got Big Philly right there in the middle.

1149
01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:05.800
<v Speaker 7>Big Philly, John Nepolitano, Shelley Barocus. I'm not sure that

1150
01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:09.840
<v Speaker 7>the guy on the fall fall right, he wasn't. He

1151
01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:14.840
<v Speaker 7>wasn't at the house that long. But his uh, try

1152
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:18.760
<v Speaker 7>to take what his nickname was? Was't ha bag No,

1153
01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:20.400
<v Speaker 7>he said he you know, it was something like he

1154
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:23.960
<v Speaker 7>was always like nah. So I think they nickname his.

1155
01:01:24.039 --> 01:01:24.639
<v Speaker 5>No help?

1156
01:01:28.440 --> 01:01:30.440
<v Speaker 6>What's the guy's name all the way on the left, Jim,

1157
01:01:30.559 --> 01:01:32.559
<v Speaker 6>what's his name? I see him all the time. I

1158
01:01:32.639 --> 01:01:37.719
<v Speaker 6>can never remember George tre Broh the guy. Yeah, yeah,

1159
01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:42.280
<v Speaker 6>he was in three or seven the whole time, right, yes, ladies.

1160
01:01:41.920 --> 01:01:47.679
<v Speaker 7>Man Keith yep yep, Keith O'Connor next to him, Charlie

1161
01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:50.559
<v Speaker 7>Hoffman behind the pennant, and Steve Carbon up on the

1162
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:51.519
<v Speaker 7>on the back step.

1163
01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:55.159
<v Speaker 5>Was there a long time too, right Carbon?

1164
01:01:55.760 --> 01:02:01.639
<v Speaker 7>Yep yep. Charlie, Charlie Hoffman and John and Shelley are

1165
01:02:01.800 --> 01:02:02.639
<v Speaker 7>no longer with us.

1166
01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:06.519
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, So Nappy came from one forty one fifty

1167
01:02:06.599 --> 01:02:10.679
<v Speaker 3>four right, yes, and then he went to rescue two yep.

1168
01:02:11.119 --> 01:02:13.119
<v Speaker 3>I think he was driving. When was he driving that

1169
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:15.239
<v Speaker 3>got him over to two? He was driving the commissioner

1170
01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 3>or somebody, I don't know.

1171
01:02:18.760 --> 01:02:20.679
<v Speaker 7>It was he It could have been chief of department

1172
01:02:21.719 --> 01:02:23.199
<v Speaker 7>or maybe the commission I don't know.

1173
01:02:23.480 --> 01:02:25.599
<v Speaker 5>He was driving, don't hurt.

1174
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:30.199
<v Speaker 7>So he got over there and uh, I don't know

1175
01:02:30.599 --> 01:02:31.920
<v Speaker 7>even happened and that was it.

1176
01:02:32.159 --> 01:02:34.880
<v Speaker 5>So he was really still have all right, So let's talk.

1177
01:02:34.920 --> 01:02:39.079
<v Speaker 7>He would get uh John would get the house. Uh

1178
01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:40.480
<v Speaker 7>you know, he was a volley out and.

1179
01:02:42.159 --> 01:02:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Hot bog.

1180
01:02:44.559 --> 01:02:50.519
<v Speaker 7>Lake Lakeland near Lake ron concu or he would get

1181
01:02:50.800 --> 01:02:53.400
<v Speaker 7>he would get the good flashlights for us. So I

1182
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:56.480
<v Speaker 7>still have the flashlight that he got for me, do

1183
01:02:56.599 --> 01:02:59.920
<v Speaker 7>you Yeah, I just can't. I you know, sentimental thing,

1184
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:03.719
<v Speaker 7>you know, it's just uh way of remembering, remembering him

1185
01:03:03.760 --> 01:03:06.599
<v Speaker 7>a little bit, you know, I you know, when it

1186
01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:07.760
<v Speaker 7>was out of my shed.

1187
01:03:07.840 --> 01:03:11.119
<v Speaker 5>Now what was it like working with Richie Schmidt?

1188
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:17.880
<v Speaker 7>Richie Schmidt was his his his first job. He really

1189
01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:22.000
<v Speaker 7>wasn't even working. We were having a company meeting at

1190
01:03:22.039 --> 01:03:25.119
<v Speaker 7>the change of tours. Uh uh you know, like sixth

1191
01:03:25.159 --> 01:03:29.719
<v Speaker 7>at night or whatever. We got the bakery diagonally across

1192
01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:33.960
<v Speaker 7>the street from the firehouse on eighty Uh it's eighty

1193
01:03:34.079 --> 01:03:41.079
<v Speaker 7>eighty first Street, and he literally he just got to

1194
01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.599
<v Speaker 7>the company and I think his first tour was like

1195
01:03:44.639 --> 01:03:47.760
<v Speaker 7>one or two days after after this happened. But I

1196
01:03:47.840 --> 01:03:50.320
<v Speaker 7>pulled pulled the rig out out of the quarters and

1197
01:03:50.559 --> 01:03:52.199
<v Speaker 7>I bring it up to the baker. I put the

1198
01:03:52.239 --> 01:03:54.000
<v Speaker 7>stick up to the roof, and I'm on the pedestal

1199
01:03:54.519 --> 01:03:57.960
<v Speaker 7>and Richie's below the pedestal on the street with a

1200
01:03:58.039 --> 01:04:01.079
<v Speaker 7>Halligan and a mall or an something. Because how many

1201
01:04:01.119 --> 01:04:02.760
<v Speaker 7>stores you want me to open up? How many stores

1202
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:04.519
<v Speaker 7>you want me to open up? And I said, I'll

1203
01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:06.239
<v Speaker 7>just go down two or three stores open them up.

1204
01:04:06.239 --> 01:04:09.360
<v Speaker 7>And you know, the guy's a machine.

1205
01:04:09.519 --> 01:04:11.480
<v Speaker 3>He's got gigettic cads, right, and.

1206
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:15.480
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, he's probably one of the strongest guys I've ever

1207
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:20.760
<v Speaker 7>known in my life. If he worked out legitimately, he'd

1208
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:21.719
<v Speaker 7>be a phenomenal.

1209
01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:24.519
<v Speaker 3>He used to bust my brother's bulls. My brother be

1210
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:27.599
<v Speaker 3>there working out, maybe with two plates on benching. He

1211
01:04:27.760 --> 01:04:29.079
<v Speaker 3>come in and he goes, what do you do, rich

1212
01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:31.559
<v Speaker 3>I'll work it out. Put a couple more plates on that,

1213
01:04:31.760 --> 01:04:34.960
<v Speaker 3>put a couple more plates on, he go walk out.

1214
01:04:35.840 --> 01:04:39.039
<v Speaker 7>He told me once that when he was you know,

1215
01:04:39.119 --> 01:04:41.119
<v Speaker 7>he was a uh you know, he was a builder.

1216
01:04:41.199 --> 01:04:43.400
<v Speaker 7>He used to do contracting work and stuff like that.

1217
01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:45.800
<v Speaker 7>But when he was doing roofs, he used to have

1218
01:04:45.880 --> 01:04:48.519
<v Speaker 7>a competition with one of his one of his partners,

1219
01:04:49.000 --> 01:04:50.880
<v Speaker 7>to see how many bundles and shingles you could bring

1220
01:04:50.960 --> 01:04:55.000
<v Speaker 7>up to the roof. At one time he'd bring up four. Yeah,

1221
01:04:55.000 --> 01:04:57.800
<v Speaker 7>they're eighty pounds bundles. So you put two bungles on

1222
01:04:57.880 --> 01:05:03.159
<v Speaker 7>each oulder and up the ladder. And when the the

1223
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:06.519
<v Speaker 7>iron bars on the windows. He would sometimes just go

1224
01:05:06.639 --> 01:05:09.159
<v Speaker 7>up to him and just just pull him, pull him

1225
01:05:09.199 --> 01:05:12.639
<v Speaker 7>off the window, put his legs, put his legs up

1226
01:05:12.679 --> 01:05:14.679
<v Speaker 7>on the wall, and just like just pull him right off,

1227
01:05:15.079 --> 01:05:18.519
<v Speaker 7>you know, Benjim and toss him over. Guy was, uh,

1228
01:05:18.760 --> 01:05:21.800
<v Speaker 7>you know, he's a super fireman. You know that's that's

1229
01:05:21.840 --> 01:05:23.599
<v Speaker 7>the only way you can describe him. Yeah, he's like

1230
01:05:23.800 --> 01:05:28.559
<v Speaker 7>you know in you know, Lieutenant Dan's Dan Buckeyes class

1231
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:30.960
<v Speaker 7>and fireman, you know, super super fireman.

1232
01:05:31.239 --> 01:05:34.360
<v Speaker 3>So he went a lot of guys went to rescue for,

1233
01:05:34.559 --> 01:05:35.960
<v Speaker 3>right Charlie Weeman.

1234
01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:38.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Charlie Weeman went to rescue for one of the

1235
01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:42.480
<v Speaker 7>one of the guys at my first class and Proby

1236
01:05:42.519 --> 01:05:46.920
<v Speaker 7>school that I taught. He's over there now, yuh Shoemaker

1237
01:05:48.360 --> 01:05:51.440
<v Speaker 7>if you know him. It was his father was on

1238
01:05:51.519 --> 01:05:54.199
<v Speaker 7>the job to shoot His father was the shoe. Yep,

1239
01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:57.000
<v Speaker 7>all the shoe, the sh we call him, we call

1240
01:05:57.119 --> 01:06:00.280
<v Speaker 7>him Jason Schuemaker. We call him Willy Shoemaker for the

1241
01:06:02.559 --> 01:06:04.559
<v Speaker 7>But the shoe was in two fifty two, right roof.

1242
01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:07.039
<v Speaker 5>But what's that?

1243
01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:08.199
<v Speaker 7>I don't I don't know where.

1244
01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:10.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know where she was in two fifty two.

1245
01:06:12.480 --> 01:06:16.159
<v Speaker 7>And then uh, we had we had four guys go

1246
01:06:16.320 --> 01:06:23.480
<v Speaker 7>up to rescue three Tommy Tommy forget, Bobby Anderson went

1247
01:06:23.559 --> 01:06:25.639
<v Speaker 7>up there, Danny Barry went up there.

1248
01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:27.599
<v Speaker 5>And uh oh, Bobby Anderson.

1249
01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:31.480
<v Speaker 7>Holy yeah, Scott, I forgot Scott Maxwell. Scott Maxwell went

1250
01:06:31.559 --> 01:06:33.159
<v Speaker 7>up Yeah.

1251
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:37.280
<v Speaker 3>So it's like the breathing ground for rescues over there.

1252
01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:43.039
<v Speaker 7>Resk you and and a lot of I think two Ruby, Yeah, yeah,

1253
01:06:43.079 --> 01:06:46.400
<v Speaker 7>he went to did you go to rescue one?

1254
01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:46.840
<v Speaker 3>One?

1255
01:06:47.480 --> 01:06:47.599
<v Speaker 9>One?

1256
01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's called ready mout mouth.

1257
01:06:51.039 --> 01:06:56.239
<v Speaker 7>That's Richie Schmid. He calls everybody walls. I said, we

1258
01:06:56.360 --> 01:06:59.239
<v Speaker 7>had a lot of the three, three of the four.

1259
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:02.000
<v Speaker 7>She he's in the four nine battalion from one fifty four.

1260
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:07.440
<v Speaker 3>So so yeah, this is still all the job was

1261
01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:08.199
<v Speaker 3>he is? He off.

1262
01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:10.880
<v Speaker 7>I don't see when did I see him last?

1263
01:07:10.920 --> 01:07:11.880
<v Speaker 5>I think it's still working.

1264
01:07:13.079 --> 01:07:17.119
<v Speaker 7>I saw him at the Centennial I don't know. He's

1265
01:07:17.159 --> 01:07:17.559
<v Speaker 7>working on that.

1266
01:07:18.039 --> 01:07:19.239
<v Speaker 3>How all goes the centennial?

1267
01:07:20.960 --> 01:07:23.280
<v Speaker 7>What was the data on it? It was in February.

1268
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:27.079
<v Speaker 7>Oh wow, Yeah, so we had a good turn. Now

1269
01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:29.239
<v Speaker 7>it's like at the house. There's like two hundred people,

1270
01:07:29.519 --> 01:07:32.480
<v Speaker 7>you know, dignitaries and a lot of retired guys showed

1271
01:07:32.559 --> 01:07:37.239
<v Speaker 7>up and we had the the party over the plat

1272
01:07:37.239 --> 01:07:39.039
<v Speaker 7>Deutsch over Flour O'park.

1273
01:07:39.159 --> 01:07:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1274
01:07:39.400 --> 01:07:41.719
<v Speaker 7>Man, that was that was a fun time.

1275
01:07:41.920 --> 01:07:44.519
<v Speaker 5>So it was good to see what did you see Johnny?

1276
01:07:44.559 --> 01:07:45.639
<v Speaker 5>See was Johnny c there?

1277
01:07:47.239 --> 01:07:49.239
<v Speaker 7>I'm trying to think. I think, yeah, I know he

1278
01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:52.840
<v Speaker 7>was at the firehouse. He was at ceremony at the firehouse. Uh,

1279
01:07:53.480 --> 01:07:55.800
<v Speaker 7>but you know there's just so many people there, you know,

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01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:57.679
<v Speaker 7>you try to talk to ye.

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01:07:57.800 --> 01:07:59.599
<v Speaker 5>I liked he was a good guy. Man Johnny's team.

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01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:01.159
<v Speaker 5>How did your own.

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01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:02.519
<v Speaker 7>Little little cocko?

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01:08:03.519 --> 01:08:03.880
<v Speaker 4>That was his?

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01:08:04.119 --> 01:08:08.840
<v Speaker 7>Uh, because he worked he worked in uh the house

1286
01:08:08.880 --> 01:08:10.440
<v Speaker 7>over and Flushing. I'm not sure if it was one

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01:08:10.480 --> 01:08:13.320
<v Speaker 7>twenty nine the ladder on the engine over there.

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01:08:13.559 --> 01:08:14.840
<v Speaker 5>I think it was one twenty nine.

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01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:17.039
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they had they had a guy and then he

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01:08:17.079 --> 01:08:19.920
<v Speaker 7>went to forty six. He got promote anyway, Yeah, they

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01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:21.960
<v Speaker 7>had a guy over there named Big Cocko, so they

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01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:23.000
<v Speaker 7>named him Little Cocko.

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01:08:24.399 --> 01:08:25.159
<v Speaker 5>He was sure.

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01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:30.399
<v Speaker 3>Lieutenant Dance as it was a drill At two pm

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01:08:30.520 --> 01:08:33.199
<v Speaker 3>he was reporting from Probie School. I think he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I said a lot of how many captains, Oh, captains?

1297
01:08:42.039 --> 01:08:43.479
<v Speaker 5>How many captains did you go through?

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01:08:44.119 --> 01:08:45.920
<v Speaker 3>Seven? Seven?

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01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:46.479
<v Speaker 4>Wow?

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01:08:49.720 --> 01:08:58.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah was my first and uh, Kenny's ile. Kenny's iel

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01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:01.359
<v Speaker 7>was they kind of screwed him or around if he

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01:09:01.479 --> 01:09:03.840
<v Speaker 7>had he got hurt of the job. I guess when

1303
01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:06.640
<v Speaker 7>he was a lieutenant years ago and his back was

1304
01:09:06.680 --> 01:09:09.199
<v Speaker 7>given him, he actually went to the hospital. He went

1305
01:09:09.239 --> 01:09:12.079
<v Speaker 7>to the emergency room one night from when he was

1306
01:09:12.119 --> 01:09:15.039
<v Speaker 7>at home. His back seized up and he couldn't. I

1307
01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:18.840
<v Speaker 7>guess whatever nerve uh that was going through the vertebrae

1308
01:09:18.880 --> 01:09:22.520
<v Speaker 7>that helped him breathe kind of seized up. So he

1309
01:09:22.680 --> 01:09:24.920
<v Speaker 7>was I think they had him on a resuscitator for

1310
01:09:24.920 --> 01:09:27.039
<v Speaker 7>a little while. They wouldn't put him give him three quarters.

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01:09:27.600 --> 01:09:29.359
<v Speaker 7>I would. I would drive the guy down. You know,

1312
01:09:29.399 --> 01:09:32.399
<v Speaker 7>we're going to a box and I you and you

1313
01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:35.039
<v Speaker 7>see you see a bump coming up or a pothole

1314
01:09:35.119 --> 01:09:38.000
<v Speaker 7>coming up. He would like hold the you know, hold

1315
01:09:38.039 --> 01:09:40.560
<v Speaker 7>the front dashboard and hold the side over here.

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01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:42.560
<v Speaker 5>And he's bracing.

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01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:45.119
<v Speaker 7>I was afraid I was gonna I was going to

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01:09:45.159 --> 01:09:47.640
<v Speaker 7>paralyze the guy hit the bump to what I would

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01:09:48.199 --> 01:09:50.319
<v Speaker 7>you know, you know, like the speed you normally come

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01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:52.800
<v Speaker 7>back from a job or or or a box from.

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01:09:53.439 --> 01:09:56.279
<v Speaker 7>That's how I would drive to the box when when

1322
01:09:56.319 --> 01:10:00.079
<v Speaker 7>he was working, because I was afraid he's gonna I

1323
01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:01.720
<v Speaker 7>was going to do something to his back if we

1324
01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:03.000
<v Speaker 7>had hit anything too hot.

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01:10:03.239 --> 01:10:05.960
<v Speaker 4>So he was a good boss.

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01:10:06.479 --> 01:10:06.920
<v Speaker 7>I'll tell you.

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01:10:06.920 --> 01:10:07.159
<v Speaker 3>We had.

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01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:08.560
<v Speaker 7>You know, a lot of a lot of good captains

1329
01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:08.960
<v Speaker 7>come through.

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01:10:10.359 --> 01:10:11.920
<v Speaker 3>You have Fifer the engine, didn't you.

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01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:16.680
<v Speaker 7>Yes, yeah, he was. I was in Proby school. He

1332
01:10:16.760 --> 01:10:20.199
<v Speaker 7>was in my Proby class. You know, good old little

1333
01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:20.840
<v Speaker 7>Joe Peiffer.

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01:10:20.960 --> 01:10:22.520
<v Speaker 3>What about brother used to call my brother had a

1335
01:10:22.600 --> 01:10:25.640
<v Speaker 3>nickname for him too. I can't remember.

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01:10:25.760 --> 01:10:29.359
<v Speaker 7>I remember when he when he got promoted to well,

1337
01:10:30.119 --> 01:10:33.000
<v Speaker 7>he bounced to a house when he got promoted to lieutenant.

1338
01:10:33.720 --> 01:10:35.800
<v Speaker 7>And we had a guy, Phil Kelly, came in a

1339
01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:38.800
<v Speaker 7>few years before me. I was in how I was

1340
01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:41.920
<v Speaker 7>at house watching. He was working in the truck for

1341
01:10:42.039 --> 01:10:44.439
<v Speaker 7>the for the day tour. So he was up in

1342
01:10:44.520 --> 01:10:47.680
<v Speaker 7>the the officers seat doing whatever he was doing up there.

1343
01:10:47.720 --> 01:10:50.680
<v Speaker 7>Phil Kelly comes in into the firehouse and looks in

1344
01:10:50.760 --> 01:10:53.880
<v Speaker 7>the looks at the truck, and it starts laughing. Who

1345
01:10:53.960 --> 01:10:58.359
<v Speaker 7>brought their kid to work? It looked like somebody brought

1346
01:10:58.399 --> 01:10:59.800
<v Speaker 7>their kid to work. He was h.

1347
01:11:02.119 --> 01:11:02.760
<v Speaker 4>It was funny.

1348
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:04.960
<v Speaker 7>So yeah, then then he then he got I guess

1349
01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:06.800
<v Speaker 7>promoted to captain and he got to spot in the

1350
01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:11.000
<v Speaker 7>engine eventually. So he definitely definitely liked.

1351
01:11:10.880 --> 01:11:11.359
<v Speaker 3>The m s.

1352
01:11:12.439 --> 01:11:14.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah money, he's sleeping.

1353
01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:21.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, well we built the he's not not in that picture.

1354
01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:24.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1355
01:11:25.039 --> 01:11:30.680
<v Speaker 7>So the guy on the very Mary Carson from the Giants,

1356
01:11:31.079 --> 01:11:33.159
<v Speaker 7>big dude, he would stop it. You bring his son

1357
01:11:33.239 --> 01:11:34.439
<v Speaker 7>once in a while to say.

1358
01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:37.920
<v Speaker 4>Hello, No, I see it's actually did he live near

1359
01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:38.479
<v Speaker 4>by or something?

1360
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:40.039
<v Speaker 7>He just lived in New Jersey?

1361
01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:41.760
<v Speaker 4>Did he just picked your firehouse?

1362
01:11:42.079 --> 01:11:44.680
<v Speaker 7>Yeah? And he he you know, it's he could probably

1363
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:48.119
<v Speaker 7>afford any car he wanted. And he used to come

1364
01:11:48.199 --> 01:11:51.560
<v Speaker 7>by in like a like a jeep Cherokee all the time.

1365
01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.640
<v Speaker 7>So yes, Johnny Fratts in the in the middle of

1366
01:11:54.640 --> 01:11:55.840
<v Speaker 7>the short day in the middle.

1367
01:11:58.039 --> 01:12:02.159
<v Speaker 3>Right, yep, Yeah, I don't know, he was over there.

1368
01:12:02.600 --> 01:12:06.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. And Brian Deary on the far right, he just

1369
01:12:08.039 --> 01:12:16.439
<v Speaker 7>got promoted to deputy chief. Yeah. Fabro Is on the

1370
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:20.279
<v Speaker 7>on the far left, far right. Excuse me, Trumbley Bruno's

1371
01:12:20.319 --> 01:12:25.439
<v Speaker 7>behind him to shacks behind Harry Carson. Jimmy Brooks is

1372
01:12:25.640 --> 01:12:29.439
<v Speaker 7>between the guy to the left of Jimmy Brooks. I

1373
01:12:30.039 --> 01:12:33.600
<v Speaker 7>think he was from three to sixteen. I think that's

1374
01:12:33.720 --> 01:12:37.199
<v Speaker 7>Joe Dunlevy behind Frats. Just seeing the eyes and top

1375
01:12:37.239 --> 01:12:42.960
<v Speaker 7>of the nose, it looks like Buddha. And I don't

1376
01:12:43.079 --> 01:12:46.720
<v Speaker 7>remember the name of the guy that's between Abbamonty and

1377
01:12:48.119 --> 01:12:49.239
<v Speaker 7>right behind Albamonty.

1378
01:12:51.560 --> 01:12:54.079
<v Speaker 4>Mhm, I have to look that name up. Any A

1379
01:12:54.079 --> 01:12:56.119
<v Speaker 4>couple of guys here, there's some newer picture. This is

1380
01:12:56.159 --> 01:12:57.319
<v Speaker 4>just another day, the same day.

1381
01:12:57.760 --> 01:13:01.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, same same guys, different different posey.

1382
01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:06.960
<v Speaker 4>All right, all right, Well to make sure I didn't forget.

1383
01:13:07.000 --> 01:13:09.640
<v Speaker 4>These are too late. Mm hmm.

1384
01:13:11.439 --> 01:13:12.319
<v Speaker 3>There's another one there.

1385
01:13:13.279 --> 01:13:13.600
<v Speaker 9>That one.

1386
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.520
<v Speaker 4>Yep, you're there. Cool, that's the.

1387
01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:19.720
<v Speaker 3>That's the shmow right in the middle, the schmoo.

1388
01:13:21.119 --> 01:13:21.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he came in.

1389
01:13:22.039 --> 01:13:25.800
<v Speaker 7>He got to the house. They had that thing going

1390
01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:29.880
<v Speaker 7>on where uh, if a proby went to a slow

1391
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:33.720
<v Speaker 7>house and there was a senior guy in another house

1392
01:13:33.840 --> 01:13:37.439
<v Speaker 7>that was thinking about transferring, he could bump they could switch.

1393
01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:41.319
<v Speaker 7>Remember that for ninety days or ninety days, and uh,

1394
01:13:41.800 --> 01:13:47.520
<v Speaker 7>that's how he got who the ship Bob Montgomery from

1395
01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:51.520
<v Speaker 7>the engine he went, he went over to two to

1396
01:13:51.920 --> 01:13:54.640
<v Speaker 7>uh call it white Stone, excuse me, the house in

1397
01:13:54.720 --> 01:13:55.279
<v Speaker 7>white Stone.

1398
01:13:56.600 --> 01:13:57.479
<v Speaker 5>That's how we got named.

1399
01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:02.399
<v Speaker 6>Uh dude, that was the sickest story I ever heard

1400
01:14:03.720 --> 01:14:06.000
<v Speaker 6>guys do to somebody what they did to the shmoo

1401
01:14:06.239 --> 01:14:06.720
<v Speaker 6>with the can.

1402
01:14:09.079 --> 01:14:11.920
<v Speaker 5>So it was there was something with the can. I

1403
01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:12.319
<v Speaker 5>thought you.

1404
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:14.199
<v Speaker 6>I was hoping you had all the facts because I

1405
01:14:14.239 --> 01:14:17.680
<v Speaker 6>remember hearing it kind of like third hand. Yeah, something

1406
01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:21.279
<v Speaker 6>where he had the can. You remember they used to

1407
01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:23.680
<v Speaker 6>have the can that used to flip down right. You

1408
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:25.199
<v Speaker 6>guys had the can that flipped.

1409
01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:28.239
<v Speaker 7>Down right like that right on the outside outside.

1410
01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:31.199
<v Speaker 5>So he did something.

1411
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:33.520
<v Speaker 6>I think there was like a strap or something that

1412
01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:35.680
<v Speaker 6>you had to do to lock it in, and he

1413
01:14:35.840 --> 01:14:38.319
<v Speaker 6>forgot to do it. I don't remember exactly how, but

1414
01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:40.680
<v Speaker 6>there was something where he forgot to do something to

1415
01:14:40.760 --> 01:14:44.960
<v Speaker 6>keep it from falling out right. So supposedly what the

1416
01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:47.840
<v Speaker 6>guys did was they had they saw a cop or

1417
01:14:47.920 --> 01:14:50.399
<v Speaker 6>something down the road, like a couple of streets down,

1418
01:14:50.560 --> 01:14:54.079
<v Speaker 6>and they said to the guy, take this can and

1419
01:14:54.439 --> 01:14:57.359
<v Speaker 6>walk it up. Say that the can flew off the

1420
01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:01.359
<v Speaker 6>rig and hit some and then the girl is like

1421
01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:04.960
<v Speaker 6>in the spital or something. Right, oh, they do this,

1422
01:15:05.399 --> 01:15:08.520
<v Speaker 6>and the cop comes up and he has to come

1423
01:15:08.600 --> 01:15:11.399
<v Speaker 6>running out to the to the you know that. The

1424
01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:15.319
<v Speaker 6>balllls and says, you know that, they're not sure what's

1425
01:15:15.319 --> 01:15:16.239
<v Speaker 6>happening to the girl.

1426
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:20.279
<v Speaker 5>And again, I don't know all the story. What's happening you?

1427
01:15:23.760 --> 01:15:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh?

1428
01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:29.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh, Chet looks yeah, you're back.

1429
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:32.760
<v Speaker 5>So you're gonna have to go upstairs. You're off duty.

1430
01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:34.720
<v Speaker 6>Now you got to go upstairs, get in your class

1431
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:37.000
<v Speaker 6>a's and then the chief is going to call you

1432
01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:38.439
<v Speaker 6>on the house.

1433
01:15:38.520 --> 01:15:38.800
<v Speaker 5>Watch.

1434
01:15:39.279 --> 01:15:42.079
<v Speaker 6>So this poor basketart go he thinks like he's killed

1435
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:46.640
<v Speaker 6>somebody or to death. He goes upstairs getting his class a's,

1436
01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:50.079
<v Speaker 6>comes back down supposedly sitting in the house watch like

1437
01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:52.239
<v Speaker 6>he's almost like he thinks his job is gone.

1438
01:15:52.319 --> 01:15:54.319
<v Speaker 5>He's you know, he's tearing up or something like that.

1439
01:15:54.479 --> 01:15:56.439
<v Speaker 5>It's just like it was horrible for the guy, you

1440
01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:56.920
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean.

1441
01:15:57.439 --> 01:16:00.159
<v Speaker 6>And they let him go for a while, and then

1442
01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:02.680
<v Speaker 6>I think they called him on the phone or something

1443
01:16:02.800 --> 01:16:04.279
<v Speaker 6>and uh and let them off.

1444
01:16:04.319 --> 01:16:06.319
<v Speaker 5>And I remember when I heard that, I'm like, holy shit, man,

1445
01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:12.720
<v Speaker 5>I guess I'll never forget to lock them. Yeah tough.

1446
01:16:16.680 --> 01:16:19.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that went on in the house.

1447
01:16:19.039 --> 01:16:20.920
<v Speaker 3>You know, were you part of the thing that I

1448
01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:25.560
<v Speaker 3>remember that guy? Were you part of the thing that

1449
01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:28.520
<v Speaker 3>they did with my brother's Cadillac. You know he had

1450
01:16:28.560 --> 01:16:30.359
<v Speaker 3>the big yellow catallact.

1451
01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:32.239
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, I hit I hit that with the with

1452
01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:33.199
<v Speaker 7>the with the truck.

1453
01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh digit no, what what they did? They hit with

1454
01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:37.319
<v Speaker 3>his window? Were you there at that time?

1455
01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:38.640
<v Speaker 7>I don't think so.

1456
01:16:39.079 --> 01:16:41.279
<v Speaker 3>We used to park. You know, the fourteenth Division had

1457
01:16:41.319 --> 01:16:42.079
<v Speaker 3>the bay next to it.

1458
01:16:42.199 --> 01:16:42.840
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, yep.

1459
01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:44.760
<v Speaker 3>My brother when he was a c guy thought he

1460
01:16:44.880 --> 01:16:47.399
<v Speaker 3>was whatever. He would park his yellow Cadillac in there,

1461
01:16:48.119 --> 01:16:50.319
<v Speaker 3>so they governed there. One day they rolled down the

1462
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:54.199
<v Speaker 3>window of the Cadillac and take a bunch of glass

1463
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:57.319
<v Speaker 3>and they throw it on the seat like it's like

1464
01:16:57.399 --> 01:16:58.000
<v Speaker 3>a window bro.

1465
01:16:58.159 --> 01:17:00.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, okay, yeah, that's coming back, yes.

1466
01:17:00.920 --> 01:17:01.680
<v Speaker 5>All the you know what it is.

1467
01:17:01.720 --> 01:17:03.319
<v Speaker 3>I think they moved it out of there first and

1468
01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:06.800
<v Speaker 3>moved it on to the sidewalk outside, and then they

1469
01:17:06.840 --> 01:17:08.760
<v Speaker 3>did it. So he was pissed at his car was

1470
01:17:08.760 --> 01:17:10.760
<v Speaker 3>out and he thought somebody broke the window. He brought

1471
01:17:10.800 --> 01:17:12.319
<v Speaker 3>it to the glass place. The guy goes.

1472
01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:21.800
<v Speaker 7>Talk a man, Yeah, I clipped the front bump or

1473
01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:24.760
<v Speaker 7>the driver's side front bumper while was coming up eighty

1474
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:28.960
<v Speaker 7>second Street, and he was parked tight to the corner

1475
01:17:29.239 --> 01:17:33.359
<v Speaker 7>and I just put a put a nice little wrinkle

1476
01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:37.920
<v Speaker 7>in the bumper. Oh no, did the house took care

1477
01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:40.119
<v Speaker 7>of it. You know, we laid out for the body

1478
01:17:40.159 --> 01:17:41.640
<v Speaker 7>work and all that stuff like that. He was he

1479
01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:43.880
<v Speaker 7>was I think that the day he died, he was

1480
01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:44.520
<v Speaker 7>still pissed at me.

1481
01:17:46.439 --> 01:17:50.000
<v Speaker 3>That was that was his baby, big yellow pimps car,

1482
01:17:50.319 --> 01:17:52.319
<v Speaker 3>the yellow banana, the yellow banana.

1483
01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:54.000
<v Speaker 5>Where is that carbs?

1484
01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:59.720
<v Speaker 3>My father took it. What happened was my father took

1485
01:17:59.760 --> 01:18:02.439
<v Speaker 3>it from Richie, and then when my dad died, Richie

1486
01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:04.800
<v Speaker 3>took it back. And I don't know what the hell

1487
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:06.640
<v Speaker 3>happened after that. Man, I don't know who got it.

1488
01:18:07.800 --> 01:18:11.359
<v Speaker 3>But I had to drive that car home many a time. Well,

1489
01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:13.239
<v Speaker 3>my father was in the cups. I used to have

1490
01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:14.720
<v Speaker 3>to drive that car with him.

1491
01:18:14.720 --> 01:18:17.000
<v Speaker 4>Minute you talked about a Cadillac, what was it kind

1492
01:18:17.039 --> 01:18:17.199
<v Speaker 4>of call?

1493
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Was it Cadillac?

1494
01:18:18.880 --> 01:18:19.439
<v Speaker 5>It's huge?

1495
01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:22.760
<v Speaker 7>Was it was a Cooptaville, right?

1496
01:18:22.840 --> 01:18:23.039
<v Speaker 3>Coop?

1497
01:18:23.199 --> 01:18:26.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Cadillac eighties, early eighties, seventies.

1498
01:18:27.560 --> 01:18:28.800
<v Speaker 3>No, And I was a little older, I was a

1499
01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:30.840
<v Speaker 3>little new with any like eighties it was.

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01:18:31.600 --> 01:18:32.720
<v Speaker 7>It was an eighty something caught.

1501
01:18:32.840 --> 01:18:39.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yep. Oh the rug of stories, so many stuff.

1502
01:18:39.159 --> 01:18:42.800
<v Speaker 3>So I have a ship, no ship moment where you

1503
01:18:42.880 --> 01:18:44.359
<v Speaker 3>thought you were gonna buy it at a job.

1504
01:18:44.760 --> 01:18:45.359
<v Speaker 7>Cut me off that.

1505
01:18:46.920 --> 01:18:48.159
<v Speaker 3>Your inside it's going it out.

1506
01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:51.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, You're ship's a little blacky today.

1507
01:18:51.520 --> 01:18:53.199
<v Speaker 3>You have got a job where you thought you were

1508
01:18:53.199 --> 01:18:53.680
<v Speaker 3>gonna buy it.

1509
01:18:56.199 --> 01:18:59.840
<v Speaker 7>Probably there was like three jobs that I came Probably,

1510
01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:03.279
<v Speaker 7>I would say I came close. So first the first

1511
01:19:03.359 --> 01:19:07.239
<v Speaker 7>one was it's just I think it was just off

1512
01:19:07.279 --> 01:19:09.479
<v Speaker 7>of probation. We had it. We had a job down

1513
01:19:10.199 --> 01:19:14.840
<v Speaker 7>ninety fourth Street, three seven Avenue, Sunday morning, about four

1514
01:19:14.840 --> 01:19:17.319
<v Speaker 7>o'clock in the morning. It was a It was a

1515
01:19:17.359 --> 01:19:21.399
<v Speaker 7>weird setup because the we came down ninety fourth Street,

1516
01:19:22.279 --> 01:19:25.199
<v Speaker 7>so that was the the entrance to the place was

1517
01:19:25.800 --> 01:19:30.800
<v Speaker 7>on diagonal, so there was like a nightclub in behind

1518
01:19:30.880 --> 01:19:34.720
<v Speaker 7>all these these little rowers stores on the street side

1519
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:40.920
<v Speaker 7>and the avenue saw and uh, what happened? Well, I

1520
01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:43.359
<v Speaker 7>think it was a back draft, but the Lieutenant buck

1521
01:19:43.399 --> 01:19:45.279
<v Speaker 7>I thinks it was a cock loft explosion.

1522
01:19:45.840 --> 01:19:46.800
<v Speaker 3>But it was.

1523
01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:51.640
<v Speaker 7>It was the first time that I actually thought somebody

1524
01:19:51.720 --> 01:19:56.279
<v Speaker 7>from the company died at a fire. We Uh yeah,

1525
01:19:56.279 --> 01:19:58.079
<v Speaker 7>we get down night, you know, almost a three seven,

1526
01:19:58.159 --> 01:20:02.279
<v Speaker 7>the smoke going across. Uh. The guy who was driving

1527
01:20:02.359 --> 01:20:05.319
<v Speaker 7>our rig was from Rescue four. So he put the

1528
01:20:05.399 --> 01:20:07.560
<v Speaker 7>he put the stick up, you know, one story, one

1529
01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:09.600
<v Speaker 7>story taxpayer put the stick up.

1530
01:20:11.159 --> 01:20:11.319
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

1531
01:20:12.680 --> 01:20:15.319
<v Speaker 7>Norman Sebisi went up on the roof. Uey Daugherty was

1532
01:20:15.399 --> 01:20:17.600
<v Speaker 7>the o V. He went to the got the round

1533
01:20:17.640 --> 01:20:18.119
<v Speaker 7>to the rear.

1534
01:20:19.000 --> 01:20:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

1535
01:20:19.359 --> 01:20:23.720
<v Speaker 7>Lieutenant Donald Telly, me and Georgie Call were the forced

1536
01:20:23.720 --> 01:20:26.760
<v Speaker 7>Blanchry team. So we started to open up the stores

1537
01:20:27.359 --> 01:20:31.760
<v Speaker 7>and we get to about the third roll up and

1538
01:20:33.119 --> 01:20:35.039
<v Speaker 7>and this this is what was kind of weird about it,

1539
01:20:35.079 --> 01:20:41.000
<v Speaker 7>Georgie asked me later on. Basically something happened and I

1540
01:20:41.039 --> 01:20:43.159
<v Speaker 7>guess we all noticed it at the same time, and

1541
01:20:43.319 --> 01:20:48.600
<v Speaker 7>we turned around and started going for the street and

1542
01:20:48.800 --> 01:20:53.720
<v Speaker 7>the building blew up. So I remember being it basically

1543
01:20:53.760 --> 01:20:57.239
<v Speaker 7>had picked me up and I was between two part

1544
01:20:57.359 --> 01:21:00.399
<v Speaker 7>cars and when I hit the hit the round, I

1545
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:03.079
<v Speaker 7>figured I get and that my head was in like

1546
01:21:03.119 --> 01:21:06.960
<v Speaker 7>a fireball. And I remember like hearing stuff go past

1547
01:21:07.000 --> 01:21:09.840
<v Speaker 7>my years and you see like a rock in the stream,

1548
01:21:10.119 --> 01:21:15.359
<v Speaker 7>how the goes around the rock and the streaming around

1549
01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:15.960
<v Speaker 7>my head.

1550
01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:17.760
<v Speaker 5>Describe it.

1551
01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:20.520
<v Speaker 7>And I hit the I hit the street, and I'm

1552
01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:22.279
<v Speaker 7>on my knees and elbows and I want to go

1553
01:21:23.520 --> 01:21:25.399
<v Speaker 7>to the to the cars to protect but there were

1554
01:21:25.439 --> 01:21:29.640
<v Speaker 7>flames were going underneath the cause, so I go, Yeah,

1555
01:21:29.720 --> 01:21:32.159
<v Speaker 7>the flames were underneath the cause, going about five feet

1556
01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:34.079
<v Speaker 7>out past the cards into the middle of the street.

1557
01:21:34.319 --> 01:21:37.880
<v Speaker 7>So I just kept going and when I turned around,

1558
01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:42.600
<v Speaker 7>the roof was on fire, and guys from one thirty eight,

1559
01:21:42.920 --> 01:21:44.840
<v Speaker 7>I guess I think they may have borne up our

1560
01:21:44.920 --> 01:21:47.079
<v Speaker 7>aerial or got put up by the bucket, but I

1561
01:21:47.159 --> 01:21:50.920
<v Speaker 7>remember seeing them silhouetted against the flames coming back to

1562
01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:54.439
<v Speaker 7>our area to come to get off the roof, and

1563
01:21:57.479 --> 01:22:00.520
<v Speaker 7>so I it's like, you know, roof roof man Norman

1564
01:22:00.640 --> 01:22:03.439
<v Speaker 7>was up there, and I yeah, that was before we

1565
01:22:03.520 --> 01:22:06.640
<v Speaker 7>all had radios. So I yelled over to Lieutenant Donald, Telly,

1566
01:22:06.760 --> 01:22:10.159
<v Speaker 7>you see you check on Norman. Call Norman, and I

1567
01:22:10.239 --> 01:22:12.399
<v Speaker 7>think he tried getting in touch with him, like twice

1568
01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:17.039
<v Speaker 7>he didn't didn't answer. Third time he answered uh. And

1569
01:22:17.439 --> 01:22:19.840
<v Speaker 7>after the whole thing was all the he said that

1570
01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:25.079
<v Speaker 7>he was going to vent the skylight and guys from

1571
01:22:25.119 --> 01:22:27.560
<v Speaker 7>one thirty eight were coming up and he said stay

1572
01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:30.720
<v Speaker 7>at the parapet and then he vented the skylight and

1573
01:22:30.880 --> 01:22:34.880
<v Speaker 7>instead of the ship coming out, it sucked in and

1574
01:22:35.199 --> 01:22:38.399
<v Speaker 7>he dropped his tools and he went to the next parapet,

1575
01:22:38.479 --> 01:22:40.960
<v Speaker 7>to the next building, and the building blew up and

1576
01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:46.399
<v Speaker 7>it sent him across to the next building. Wow, you know,

1577
01:22:46.439 --> 01:22:48.520
<v Speaker 7>And Georgie call asked me later, he said, how do

1578
01:22:48.600 --> 01:22:50.079
<v Speaker 7>you know, how do you know how to turn it?

1579
01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:52.840
<v Speaker 7>You know, to turn around? Look, because nobody said anything.

1580
01:22:53.199 --> 01:22:56.079
<v Speaker 7>Just you know, hand to God, just you know, you

1581
01:22:56.119 --> 01:22:58.880
<v Speaker 7>guys turn around so I don't get hurt. But the

1582
01:22:58.960 --> 01:23:03.079
<v Speaker 7>guy from rescue, I found out later, he was looking

1583
01:23:03.199 --> 01:23:06.279
<v Speaker 7>down at us when the building blew up and he

1584
01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:09.520
<v Speaker 7>thought we were dead because they we just got engulfed

1585
01:23:09.560 --> 01:23:12.000
<v Speaker 7>by the by a fireball coming out of the out

1586
01:23:12.039 --> 01:23:16.600
<v Speaker 7>of the taxpayers. So that was his last last fire.

1587
01:23:16.680 --> 01:23:18.199
<v Speaker 7>He went to he put his paper in after that.

1588
01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:23.479
<v Speaker 7>Really yeah, yeah, we go see, Yeah, he's done. So

1589
01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:25.640
<v Speaker 7>you know, he had over you know, he had twenty

1590
01:23:25.720 --> 01:23:27.319
<v Speaker 7>years on the job. So he said, that's it I'm doing.

1591
01:23:28.119 --> 01:23:29.439
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know it.

1592
01:23:30.119 --> 01:23:32.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that was you know, I had like a sunburn,

1593
01:23:33.039 --> 01:23:35.840
<v Speaker 7>sunburn on my face, you know, going you know, we

1594
01:23:35.920 --> 01:23:38.319
<v Speaker 7>had the mass on but we didn't have pieces on

1595
01:23:38.439 --> 01:23:42.039
<v Speaker 7>our face. But that was that was a fun job.

1596
01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:45.359
<v Speaker 7>We got to use the only time in my career

1597
01:23:45.880 --> 01:23:47.760
<v Speaker 7>that we actually set up the ladder pipe and used

1598
01:23:47.760 --> 01:23:50.800
<v Speaker 7>the ladder pipe. You're going to say that, yeah, yeah,

1599
01:23:51.680 --> 01:23:54.399
<v Speaker 7>we turned it, We retracted it all the way, put

1600
01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:57.960
<v Speaker 7>the ladder pipe on, turned into the buildings, went right

1601
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:00.520
<v Speaker 7>into the taxpayer with it, and then it extended it

1602
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:03.239
<v Speaker 7>to the back and opened up the line. So it

1603
01:24:03.399 --> 01:24:07.000
<v Speaker 7>was it was, that was an interesting experience. What about

1604
01:24:07.039 --> 01:24:10.560
<v Speaker 7>one O three and thirty four? Do you remember that job?

1605
01:24:11.079 --> 01:24:13.880
<v Speaker 3>What what was that? Daniel Buckeye says, one O.

1606
01:24:13.960 --> 01:24:16.760
<v Speaker 5>Three third Street between Northern and thirty four.

1607
01:24:17.399 --> 01:24:20.039
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, yeah, I gave That was the job I gave

1608
01:24:20.119 --> 01:24:24.520
<v Speaker 7>my first may Day at Durray Smith from one thirty six.

1609
01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:30.720
<v Speaker 7>You know him, yeah, yeah, he he felt through a

1610
01:24:31.279 --> 01:24:35.720
<v Speaker 7>light aaron light shaft you know and close that job.

1611
01:24:36.119 --> 01:24:36.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1612
01:24:37.199 --> 01:24:40.600
<v Speaker 7>So that yeah, that where the where the shaft was,

1613
01:24:40.720 --> 01:24:44.279
<v Speaker 7>there was there was not even if it was just

1614
01:24:44.359 --> 01:24:46.399
<v Speaker 7>like the tower, the tar from the roof just kind

1615
01:24:46.439 --> 01:24:48.800
<v Speaker 7>of came up to the hall. There was no no

1616
01:24:49.000 --> 01:24:53.760
<v Speaker 7>parapet around that that shaft way and uh, the way

1617
01:24:53.920 --> 01:24:59.119
<v Speaker 7>the buildings were set up, the fire building had like

1618
01:24:59.199 --> 01:25:02.520
<v Speaker 7>a garage and back that all the cars were on fire,

1619
01:25:02.600 --> 01:25:04.159
<v Speaker 7>so there was a lot of smoke, and the wind

1620
01:25:04.319 --> 01:25:07.600
<v Speaker 7>was blowing from like Northern Boulevard to three four Avenue

1621
01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:15.560
<v Speaker 7>and exposure to exposure three, well, no, it's excuse me,

1622
01:25:15.600 --> 01:25:18.319
<v Speaker 7>exposure two. It would be two two A to B.

1623
01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:21.520
<v Speaker 7>I forgot how the exposures go. It's been a while.

1624
01:25:21.960 --> 01:25:25.279
<v Speaker 7>But the build we were on a two story. The

1625
01:25:25.359 --> 01:25:27.279
<v Speaker 7>building next to that one was a three story. So

1626
01:25:27.359 --> 01:25:30.439
<v Speaker 7>the smoke was coming up off the job. The wind

1627
01:25:30.600 --> 01:25:32.439
<v Speaker 7>was taken it to that three story and it was

1628
01:25:32.520 --> 01:25:40.720
<v Speaker 7>just circulating, circulating back on on the roof, and basically

1629
01:25:41.359 --> 01:25:43.880
<v Speaker 7>I was on with Bobby Whalen, was the roof man.

1630
01:25:43.960 --> 01:25:47.199
<v Speaker 7>So I was up between the evented skylight and the

1631
01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:50.439
<v Speaker 7>scuttle and we were cutting a hole between those two,

1632
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:55.119
<v Speaker 7>and I guess the back of that building started to

1633
01:25:55.159 --> 01:25:59.079
<v Speaker 7>come down, so we all all left the roof and

1634
01:25:59.560 --> 01:26:03.680
<v Speaker 7>everybody basically went to that build, that uh three story building,

1635
01:26:03.880 --> 01:26:05.960
<v Speaker 7>because I had the area right up, you know, so

1636
01:26:06.039 --> 01:26:08.920
<v Speaker 7>the three story building was here, the two stories here.

1637
01:26:08.920 --> 01:26:10.560
<v Speaker 7>I had the area right up next to that three

1638
01:26:10.640 --> 01:26:13.640
<v Speaker 7>story building, and uh so the guys who went thirty

1639
01:26:13.640 --> 01:26:16.880
<v Speaker 7>six went there and Derry Smith just follow the three

1640
01:26:16.920 --> 01:26:19.399
<v Speaker 7>story building to the aerial, went right down the hull.

1641
01:26:20.319 --> 01:26:21.640
<v Speaker 7>So he's lucky to get you.

1642
01:26:21.760 --> 01:26:21.840
<v Speaker 4>Hi.

1643
01:26:22.479 --> 01:26:24.800
<v Speaker 3>He brought both of his I think both of his legs.

1644
01:26:24.560 --> 01:26:27.359
<v Speaker 7>But yeah, well it shotted both both of his heels.

1645
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:31.439
<v Speaker 7>I think were screwed up. But that's right. When we

1646
01:26:31.600 --> 01:26:35.960
<v Speaker 7>changed the the may day procedure, you do that, you know,

1647
01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:37.800
<v Speaker 7>may day, may day, may day. You know a lot

1648
01:26:37.840 --> 01:26:40.119
<v Speaker 7>of one, five, four show for the command may day

1649
01:26:40.319 --> 01:26:43.239
<v Speaker 7>that I did that three times and nobody answered me.

1650
01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:46.680
<v Speaker 7>Now that's before we had the the new radios with

1651
01:26:47.239 --> 01:26:51.880
<v Speaker 7>the alert button. So I gave it three times and

1652
01:26:52.079 --> 01:26:55.319
<v Speaker 7>nobody answered me. So I went, I figured, okay, I've

1653
01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:58.159
<v Speaker 7>gotta go down. I'll get the roof rope, we'll send

1654
01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:00.760
<v Speaker 7>somebody down the shaft to help him out. And I

1655
01:27:00.840 --> 01:27:04.119
<v Speaker 7>get I get to the aerial. There's a battalion chief

1656
01:27:04.159 --> 01:27:06.479
<v Speaker 7>in an age right below the aeriel, and I'm yelling

1657
01:27:06.520 --> 01:27:08.520
<v Speaker 7>at the guy and nobody's looking up. So I have

1658
01:27:08.640 --> 01:27:11.159
<v Speaker 7>my haligan in my hand and I'm like, all right,

1659
01:27:11.239 --> 01:27:13.000
<v Speaker 7>I'm going to drop the haligan right next to these

1660
01:27:13.039 --> 01:27:15.720
<v Speaker 7>guys to get their attention. And then the age finally

1661
01:27:15.760 --> 01:27:19.840
<v Speaker 7>looked up and I think, uh it was either rescue

1662
01:27:19.920 --> 01:27:22.760
<v Speaker 7>or squad. I think when I get him at the shaft, right.

1663
01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:24.800
<v Speaker 3>I found him in the shaft, and then Nicky Corrado

1664
01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:27.800
<v Speaker 3>and uh Chris Karanji came in with Matt Carles and

1665
01:27:27.880 --> 01:27:28.800
<v Speaker 3>we got him out of the shift.

1666
01:27:28.880 --> 01:27:31.199
<v Speaker 7>Okay, yeah, I wasn't sure if it was you guys

1667
01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:34.079
<v Speaker 7>are are rescue rescue for? But guys got him out,

1668
01:27:34.159 --> 01:27:37.239
<v Speaker 7>and so that was. I don't I don't know how

1669
01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:38.399
<v Speaker 7>he didn't get hurt.

1670
01:27:39.439 --> 01:27:42.319
<v Speaker 3>More than I did get killed because there was a

1671
01:27:42.359 --> 01:27:43.479
<v Speaker 3>lot on his feet.

1672
01:27:43.920 --> 01:27:45.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, there was a lot of junk on that shaft too,

1673
01:27:46.279 --> 01:27:49.520
<v Speaker 7>but he had his mask on, you know, yeah, yeah,

1674
01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:52.159
<v Speaker 7>I actually that was That was the only job I

1675
01:27:52.239 --> 01:27:54.840
<v Speaker 7>went to. Uh that it was on the roof that

1676
01:27:54.920 --> 01:27:59.119
<v Speaker 7>I went through a whole bottle of air, so comptly

1677
01:27:59.159 --> 01:27:59.960
<v Speaker 7>drink my bottle up.

1678
01:28:00.079 --> 01:28:05.079
<v Speaker 3>I think Jimmy Mesmer was a roof man, Jimmy jim

1679
01:28:05.199 --> 01:28:07.399
<v Speaker 3>Jimmy Jimmy Mesmer.

1680
01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:11.600
<v Speaker 7>Because I remember pulling pulling down that coming off at

1681
01:28:11.600 --> 01:28:14.640
<v Speaker 7>three four, heading towards northern and you couldn't you couldn't

1682
01:28:14.640 --> 01:28:16.760
<v Speaker 7>see in front of the rig. Eventually I had to

1683
01:28:16.840 --> 01:28:19.640
<v Speaker 7>creep into the smoke and eventually, you know, I saw

1684
01:28:19.800 --> 01:28:22.000
<v Speaker 7>the rear three sixteen. They were they were the first

1685
01:28:22.079 --> 01:28:24.760
<v Speaker 7>two engine there. So that was that was a good job.

1686
01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:29.000
<v Speaker 7>And I think that the way the building was set up,

1687
01:28:29.039 --> 01:28:31.640
<v Speaker 7>they kind of messed up on the exposures. Like when

1688
01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:34.079
<v Speaker 7>we first got there, everybody knew, you know, the two

1689
01:28:34.199 --> 01:28:36.800
<v Speaker 7>story and the one story were the same with the

1690
01:28:36.840 --> 01:28:39.960
<v Speaker 7>same building. I think when command got there they thought

1691
01:28:40.000 --> 01:28:42.119
<v Speaker 7>this the one story part of the building was a

1692
01:28:42.199 --> 01:28:46.560
<v Speaker 7>separate building. So they kind of messed the exposures up

1693
01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:51.680
<v Speaker 7>a little bit confused, confusal to some people. But that

1694
01:28:51.800 --> 01:28:53.880
<v Speaker 7>was that was That was an interesting job. It was

1695
01:28:53.920 --> 01:28:54.760
<v Speaker 7>the middle of the day too.

1696
01:28:55.159 --> 01:29:00.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. You never had a go to a rescue. You

1697
01:29:01.079 --> 01:29:03.720
<v Speaker 3>what is that? Never had the inkling to go to

1698
01:29:03.800 --> 01:29:05.039
<v Speaker 3>a rescue? Never wanted to?

1699
01:29:06.399 --> 01:29:08.640
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I kind of wanted it once once the guy

1700
01:29:08.840 --> 01:29:09.399
<v Speaker 7>I got over it.

1701
01:29:12.560 --> 01:29:13.560
<v Speaker 5>Did you ever want to study?

1702
01:29:14.680 --> 01:29:17.960
<v Speaker 7>I actually took I think I took two lieutenants. You know,

1703
01:29:18.000 --> 01:29:19.880
<v Speaker 7>I did the whole fire the fire tech thing. I

1704
01:29:20.279 --> 01:29:24.800
<v Speaker 7>did really well. You know all the the the practice

1705
01:29:24.840 --> 01:29:26.520
<v Speaker 7>tests they give you a fire tech. Yeah, I was

1706
01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:29.439
<v Speaker 7>getting I was getting the nineties nineties on him. When

1707
01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:33.199
<v Speaker 7>it came to the real deal, I froze up a

1708
01:29:33.239 --> 01:29:35.840
<v Speaker 7>little bit. I don't know it just whatever in my

1709
01:29:35.880 --> 01:29:37.239
<v Speaker 7>head does left, you know.

1710
01:29:37.479 --> 01:29:41.039
<v Speaker 3>So he did a Swanee River nor.

1711
01:29:45.000 --> 01:29:47.000
<v Speaker 7>I think God puts you where he wants you, and

1712
01:29:47.439 --> 01:29:49.600
<v Speaker 7>God didn't want me to get promoted to lieutenant. And

1713
01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:53.439
<v Speaker 7>like the first the first lieutenant's exam I needed. That

1714
01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:56.840
<v Speaker 7>was that was the exam where they had like eighteen

1715
01:29:57.399 --> 01:29:58.720
<v Speaker 7>double answers.

1716
01:29:59.279 --> 01:30:02.359
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, sick double answers yeah or whatever it was, and

1717
01:30:02.439 --> 01:30:05.079
<v Speaker 6>that it was like you didn't get any I didn't

1718
01:30:05.079 --> 01:30:05.760
<v Speaker 6>get any of them.

1719
01:30:06.600 --> 01:30:08.439
<v Speaker 7>I needed like three, and I would have I would

1720
01:30:08.479 --> 01:30:08.880
<v Speaker 7>have passed.

1721
01:30:08.960 --> 01:30:11.359
<v Speaker 5>Who said Bobby Austin said the same thing last week.

1722
01:30:12.319 --> 01:30:15.520
<v Speaker 7>But my yeah, my my wife and my wife goes.

1723
01:30:15.560 --> 01:30:19.680
<v Speaker 7>You know, you know, maybe that's you're lucky because if

1724
01:30:19.720 --> 01:30:22.640
<v Speaker 7>you got promoted and uh, you know, wherever you would

1725
01:30:22.680 --> 01:30:25.920
<v Speaker 7>land could be anyway, nine to eleven happened, and you know,

1726
01:30:26.399 --> 01:30:28.720
<v Speaker 7>I could have been a brook House in Manhattan house

1727
01:30:28.800 --> 01:30:30.159
<v Speaker 7>and maybe not.

1728
01:30:30.239 --> 01:30:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Be absolutely so if you would have went the rescue,

1729
01:30:33.600 --> 01:30:36.720
<v Speaker 3>I think it happened. Yep, you know you were you were.

1730
01:30:37.000 --> 01:30:39.960
<v Speaker 5>Hey, listen, there's another fire. Geh.

1731
01:30:40.319 --> 01:30:43.159
<v Speaker 6>Lieutenant Bucket's saying another fire eight four in northern jim

1732
01:30:43.279 --> 01:30:44.119
<v Speaker 6>got dog bit.

1733
01:30:44.960 --> 01:30:49.479
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, yeah, that was that was interesting. Yeah, it was.

1734
01:30:49.800 --> 01:30:52.760
<v Speaker 7>It was just you know, the sixth story m D

1735
01:30:53.000 --> 01:30:55.119
<v Speaker 7>right right down and down the road from the firehouse.

1736
01:30:57.199 --> 01:31:00.600
<v Speaker 7>I had the O V and uh it was I

1737
01:31:00.640 --> 01:31:03.399
<v Speaker 7>think it was the second the second floor. The apartment

1738
01:31:03.439 --> 01:31:06.159
<v Speaker 7>on the second floor I got. I got to the rear.

1739
01:31:07.479 --> 01:31:09.000
<v Speaker 3>And the window.

1740
01:31:09.000 --> 01:31:11.039
<v Speaker 7>It was the summertime, so the windows were open in

1741
01:31:11.079 --> 01:31:13.720
<v Speaker 7>the apartment. There was a there was a cat and

1742
01:31:13.960 --> 01:31:17.159
<v Speaker 7>a puppy on the window sill, you know, and smoke

1743
01:31:17.239 --> 01:31:18.640
<v Speaker 7>is coming out of the window and everything like that,

1744
01:31:19.960 --> 01:31:21.880
<v Speaker 7>and you know, I hear him forcing the door on

1745
01:31:21.960 --> 01:31:23.760
<v Speaker 7>the inside, and you know the noise, you know, the

1746
01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:26.520
<v Speaker 7>engine comes in. I hear him bleed the nozzle and

1747
01:31:26.840 --> 01:31:29.000
<v Speaker 7>he opens the nozzle and the cat and the dog

1748
01:31:29.359 --> 01:31:33.560
<v Speaker 7>fly out and they push him out off the window sill.

1749
01:31:34.600 --> 01:31:36.600
<v Speaker 7>The cat hits the ground runs the dog.

1750
01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1751
01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:41.520
<v Speaker 7>It was kind of right below the entrance to the basement.

1752
01:31:41.560 --> 01:31:45.000
<v Speaker 7>They had a railing and the top of the railing

1753
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:50.119
<v Speaker 7>had ward iron spikes. The dog landed like the rear

1754
01:31:50.239 --> 01:31:52.600
<v Speaker 7>leg of the dog landed on a spike. So I

1755
01:31:52.680 --> 01:31:56.279
<v Speaker 7>went to pick the dog, picked the dog up, walk

1756
01:31:56.359 --> 01:31:58.600
<v Speaker 7>the spike, and it just you know, turned around and

1757
01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:02.279
<v Speaker 7>you know, lopped onto my hand. So I had to

1758
01:32:02.319 --> 01:32:04.680
<v Speaker 7>go to the medical you to get in the shots.

1759
01:32:05.279 --> 01:32:08.239
<v Speaker 7>That the h the raby shots.

1760
01:32:08.920 --> 01:32:09.479
<v Speaker 4>That was fun.

1761
01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:11.520
<v Speaker 3>The worse you could have been the dog.

1762
01:32:11.880 --> 01:32:14.720
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, right there, the dog.

1763
01:32:14.840 --> 01:32:15.159
<v Speaker 5>The dog.

1764
01:32:15.239 --> 01:32:19.000
<v Speaker 7>They put the dog down. They they took somebody. It

1765
01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:21.279
<v Speaker 7>was too it was like six months older, not not

1766
01:32:21.359 --> 01:32:25.199
<v Speaker 7>even that. So, but that was that was a fun.

1767
01:32:26.159 --> 01:32:28.479
<v Speaker 7>Mat me right on the right on my good thumb.

1768
01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Actually, I think the son of a bitch, he got

1769
01:32:31.079 --> 01:32:32.359
<v Speaker 3>you on the good thumb. He could even get you

1770
01:32:32.399 --> 01:32:33.359
<v Speaker 3>on the meady thumb, right.

1771
01:32:33.520 --> 01:32:38.159
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I know, yeah, but that was It was a

1772
01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:45.079
<v Speaker 7>lot of interesting jobs. Let's say the uh another probably

1773
01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:47.560
<v Speaker 7>the well, the second joy was I think two thousand

1774
01:32:47.600 --> 01:32:50.159
<v Speaker 7>and six, there was a big call you uh, they

1775
01:32:50.199 --> 01:32:52.479
<v Speaker 7>don't call him calling his mansions anymore.

1776
01:32:52.159 --> 01:32:56.720
<v Speaker 5>Right, there's uh clutter or something or other.

1777
01:32:56.880 --> 01:33:01.159
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, So this this was over and its side well

1778
01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:05.199
<v Speaker 7>along that it was woodsts right off of Queens Bully

1779
01:33:05.439 --> 01:33:07.560
<v Speaker 7>Queens Boulevard. It was I think it went to like

1780
01:33:07.640 --> 01:33:12.039
<v Speaker 7>a third or fourth. Yeah, I was back down to

1781
01:33:12.119 --> 01:33:15.239
<v Speaker 7>the lobby that way, and the literally the only part

1782
01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:17.279
<v Speaker 7>of that apartment that didn't have junket it was where

1783
01:33:17.319 --> 01:33:20.439
<v Speaker 7>the front door swung open. I was at that jump too, man,

1784
01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:24.399
<v Speaker 7>all right, so we're so that's that's where I got.

1785
01:33:25.479 --> 01:33:28.000
<v Speaker 7>I made I made the Close Call List, the National

1786
01:33:28.079 --> 01:33:31.600
<v Speaker 7>Close Callalist on that that job. That one sixty three

1787
01:33:31.640 --> 01:33:34.520
<v Speaker 7>had their bucket up to the window of whatever the

1788
01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:37.520
<v Speaker 7>wound up being being in the kitchen. We didn't know

1789
01:33:37.560 --> 01:33:40.479
<v Speaker 7>it was the kitchen. So we they were rotating guys

1790
01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:43.920
<v Speaker 7>into the bucket, and there was a portable ladder next

1791
01:33:43.960 --> 01:33:46.479
<v Speaker 7>to the bucket so they wouldn't have to move the

1792
01:33:46.520 --> 01:33:49.760
<v Speaker 7>bucket up and down. So and then there was a

1793
01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:52.439
<v Speaker 7>wall next to where the port of the ladder ladder was.

1794
01:33:53.199 --> 01:33:56.319
<v Speaker 7>So we're our crews in the bucket and we rotate

1795
01:33:56.399 --> 01:33:58.920
<v Speaker 7>two guys into the window and we just start shoveling

1796
01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:03.119
<v Speaker 7>ship out the window. And then it got to the

1797
01:34:03.199 --> 01:34:05.359
<v Speaker 7>point where you know, it's like an angle going up

1798
01:34:05.359 --> 01:34:07.880
<v Speaker 7>to the ceiling. And now now this looks like the

1799
01:34:07.920 --> 01:34:10.840
<v Speaker 7>top of kitchen cabinet. So it's working our way down,

1800
01:34:10.920 --> 01:34:13.520
<v Speaker 7>working our way down. Eventually we get to where the

1801
01:34:13.640 --> 01:34:16.159
<v Speaker 7>door is and we get to the top of the door,

1802
01:34:16.520 --> 01:34:19.119
<v Speaker 7>and now we start getting smoke and fire coming in,

1803
01:34:20.039 --> 01:34:25.159
<v Speaker 7>so we rotate out and it's like let's you know,

1804
01:34:25.319 --> 01:34:29.119
<v Speaker 7>we should probably get a line up here. So one

1805
01:34:29.159 --> 01:34:31.600
<v Speaker 7>guy goes off to the portable ladder. Then I go

1806
01:34:31.720 --> 01:34:33.560
<v Speaker 7>off to the portable ladder. I'm coming down the port

1807
01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:37.439
<v Speaker 7>of the ladder. John Diatoma every time he saw me

1808
01:34:37.560 --> 01:34:39.800
<v Speaker 7>after this job, because he was he said, you wish

1809
01:34:39.880 --> 01:34:44.439
<v Speaker 7>he had a video camera to videotape it. He always

1810
01:34:44.479 --> 01:34:47.199
<v Speaker 7>gave me a hug because I thought you were going

1811
01:34:47.279 --> 01:34:48.920
<v Speaker 7>to die. I thought you were going to die. So

1812
01:34:49.319 --> 01:34:51.359
<v Speaker 7>I'm coming down the port of the ladder and I

1813
01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:54.800
<v Speaker 7>just noticed a movement right over here, and then all

1814
01:34:54.840 --> 01:34:57.000
<v Speaker 7>of a sudden, the bottom of the towel ladder basket

1815
01:34:57.439 --> 01:35:01.399
<v Speaker 7>hits me on the head, drives my head into the

1816
01:35:01.560 --> 01:35:02.520
<v Speaker 7>wall over here.

1817
01:35:03.359 --> 01:35:05.880
<v Speaker 5>Oh my god, dude, I never heard this story.

1818
01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:08.319
<v Speaker 7>I actually had to hold the port of the ladder

1819
01:35:08.399 --> 01:35:12.279
<v Speaker 7>and squeeze my head out of the helmet and I

1820
01:35:12.359 --> 01:35:14.000
<v Speaker 7>got I got down to the ground and it's like

1821
01:35:14.199 --> 01:35:16.199
<v Speaker 7>my head's pound like I got hit by a towel

1822
01:35:16.239 --> 01:35:19.800
<v Speaker 7>out of basket and I'm holding my head like that.

1823
01:35:21.079 --> 01:35:24.680
<v Speaker 7>I have blood on both pairs of gloves and uh,

1824
01:35:25.439 --> 01:35:28.960
<v Speaker 7>my helmet wound up on the building. They had they

1825
01:35:29.000 --> 01:35:31.000
<v Speaker 7>had to go up and pull my helmet off the building.

1826
01:35:31.439 --> 01:35:33.279
<v Speaker 5>This helmet, No, no, the the.

1827
01:35:36.119 --> 01:35:39.079
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the did you guys get the pictures of I

1828
01:35:39.199 --> 01:35:41.960
<v Speaker 7>sent three pictures of a picture of my three helmets

1829
01:35:42.640 --> 01:35:43.239
<v Speaker 7>the other day.

1830
01:35:44.079 --> 01:35:45.479
<v Speaker 4>I didn't get that one.

1831
01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:48.479
<v Speaker 7>Okay, So this is the this is the one with

1832
01:35:48.600 --> 01:35:52.359
<v Speaker 7>the impact liner and uh, the safety confiscated it. So

1833
01:35:53.000 --> 01:35:54.680
<v Speaker 7>you know, I had to go get a brain scan.

1834
01:35:55.840 --> 01:35:57.039
<v Speaker 7>This is the X ray in my head.

1835
01:35:57.439 --> 01:36:00.920
<v Speaker 6>So he just stopped in time. Uh, I mean, he

1836
01:36:01.079 --> 01:36:07.560
<v Speaker 6>just stopped in time. What people yelling like, what do

1837
01:36:07.600 --> 01:36:09.479
<v Speaker 6>you remember? You don't remember anything like that?

1838
01:36:10.239 --> 01:36:12.239
<v Speaker 7>The show for on the turntape and was talking with

1839
01:36:12.319 --> 01:36:14.800
<v Speaker 7>somebody down on the street, so he didn't see it.

1840
01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:19.000
<v Speaker 7>There was a tree that was the guys who were

1841
01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:23.840
<v Speaker 7>in the bucket. I think that the boom actually got

1842
01:36:23.960 --> 01:36:25.359
<v Speaker 7>stopped a little bit on the tree.

1843
01:36:25.800 --> 01:36:26.039
<v Speaker 4>Ah.

1844
01:36:28.079 --> 01:36:33.399
<v Speaker 7>But supposedly the land the lanyards for the lieutenants flashlight

1845
01:36:33.760 --> 01:36:39.159
<v Speaker 7>was tangled with the you know, the joy trigger the trigger,

1846
01:36:40.960 --> 01:36:46.319
<v Speaker 7>but I don't believe that. So yeah, but I'm not Wow,

1847
01:36:46.680 --> 01:36:50.279
<v Speaker 7>that's yes. So that that actually you know, they have

1848
01:36:50.439 --> 01:36:52.960
<v Speaker 7>the you know, the Line of Duty book that comes

1849
01:36:53.000 --> 01:36:55.239
<v Speaker 7>out every year for everybody it dies on the line

1850
01:36:55.239 --> 01:36:58.279
<v Speaker 7>of duty. They have a close call book and say

1851
01:36:58.319 --> 01:37:01.479
<v Speaker 7>I made that. No, that would make the light of

1852
01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:04.800
<v Speaker 7>duty one. I'm glad you're here. Yeah, so John, Yeah,

1853
01:37:05.039 --> 01:37:07.600
<v Speaker 7>John Diantas. Every time I saw John de'etoma, he come up.

1854
01:37:07.560 --> 01:37:10.119
<v Speaker 3>Give me a big because it was like, I think

1855
01:37:10.159 --> 01:37:12.680
<v Speaker 3>they wound up actually breaching the wall put that fire out,

1856
01:37:12.760 --> 01:37:13.079
<v Speaker 3>didn't they.

1857
01:37:13.560 --> 01:37:19.560
<v Speaker 7>Yeah? Well, I remember they tried breaching the ceiling well

1858
01:37:19.600 --> 01:37:23.079
<v Speaker 7>the floor of the apartment above and they pulled that

1859
01:37:23.279 --> 01:37:24.960
<v Speaker 7>and I was junk all the way up to the

1860
01:37:25.960 --> 01:37:28.079
<v Speaker 7>to the ceiling. And then they tried breaching a wall

1861
01:37:28.279 --> 01:37:29.920
<v Speaker 7>and it was a wall of junk.

1862
01:37:29.760 --> 01:37:31.720
<v Speaker 3>In front of him. I've never seen an apartment that

1863
01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:35.439
<v Speaker 3>had that. That wasn't even college's mansion. That was floor

1864
01:37:35.520 --> 01:37:37.720
<v Speaker 3>to ceiling junk everywhere. Yeah.

1865
01:37:38.720 --> 01:37:41.239
<v Speaker 7>I think they had like like three or four forty

1866
01:37:41.359 --> 01:37:45.159
<v Speaker 7>dumpsters moved the debris out of the place.

1867
01:37:45.520 --> 01:37:47.560
<v Speaker 3>I'm not hiding you this. The smoke was banked down

1868
01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:49.920
<v Speaker 3>to the lobby, like bank down to the lobby.

1869
01:37:50.479 --> 01:37:55.920
<v Speaker 7>Didn't didn't the battalion chief try to do that pressurizing

1870
01:37:56.000 --> 01:37:56.640
<v Speaker 7>with the fans.

1871
01:37:57.720 --> 01:37:58.399
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember that.

1872
01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:00.239
<v Speaker 4>Sorry.

1873
01:38:00.239 --> 01:38:02.600
<v Speaker 7>Remember every time every time the fans got engaged, it

1874
01:38:02.720 --> 01:38:03.159
<v Speaker 7>got worse.

1875
01:38:03.680 --> 01:38:04.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it did.

1876
01:38:04.800 --> 01:38:05.640
<v Speaker 7>It didn't really work.

1877
01:38:05.800 --> 01:38:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I was working with Evans that I can't believe I

1878
01:38:07.720 --> 01:38:08.119
<v Speaker 3>remember that.

1879
01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:10.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that was that was. That was an interesting job.

1880
01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:15.159
<v Speaker 7>I still I got the helmet. The helmet was. The

1881
01:38:15.279 --> 01:38:19.720
<v Speaker 7>helmet was in custody of the Safety Battalion till about

1882
01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:25.720
<v Speaker 7>five years ago. And then one of the later you know,

1883
01:38:25.800 --> 01:38:28.680
<v Speaker 7>I became a peer with the with the Counseling Service unit.

1884
01:38:29.119 --> 01:38:31.279
<v Speaker 7>One of the chiefs that worked worked down there as

1885
01:38:31.279 --> 01:38:34.720
<v Speaker 7>as a peer counselor and I gave I gave him

1886
01:38:34.720 --> 01:38:36.680
<v Speaker 7>the information and retrieved.

1887
01:38:36.239 --> 01:38:36.600
<v Speaker 9>It for you.

1888
01:38:36.760 --> 01:38:39.000
<v Speaker 7>He's like, oh, yeah, it's been in his box for

1889
01:38:39.119 --> 01:38:40.520
<v Speaker 7>twenty you know, twenty some years.

1890
01:38:43.279 --> 01:38:47.399
<v Speaker 3>Still need counseling. Oh yeah, yeah, we're gonna do a

1891
01:38:47.479 --> 01:38:49.800
<v Speaker 3>show from Friends of Firefighters on mental health again.

1892
01:38:50.319 --> 01:38:55.439
<v Speaker 7>Yeah that's uh, Casey plead he actually got me. You

1893
01:38:55.560 --> 01:39:00.359
<v Speaker 7>work with Casey Palidi, right right, Louis, Yeah, one three, Yeah, Yeah,

1894
01:39:00.439 --> 01:39:03.520
<v Speaker 7>he got me into it. I got invited to the

1895
01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:06.079
<v Speaker 7>you know, we have the Counseling service. You know, it

1896
01:39:06.119 --> 01:39:10.000
<v Speaker 7>puts on the breakfast every second Tuesday of the month.

1897
01:39:10.199 --> 01:39:10.720
<v Speaker 5>I see that.

1898
01:39:12.359 --> 01:39:14.399
<v Speaker 7>And I went it was it was a great time.

1899
01:39:14.520 --> 01:39:17.399
<v Speaker 7>So I figured, you know, I know Casey, I know

1900
01:39:17.479 --> 01:39:19.680
<v Speaker 7>a few of the other guys. So I went the

1901
01:39:19.760 --> 01:39:22.119
<v Speaker 7>next time, I went early to help cook and I

1902
01:39:22.239 --> 01:39:24.560
<v Speaker 7>kept I just kept going. You know, I was part

1903
01:39:24.600 --> 01:39:26.840
<v Speaker 7>of the cooking crow when Casey got me into the

1904
01:39:26.880 --> 01:39:29.199
<v Speaker 7>bea counseling and it basically it saved my retirement.

1905
01:39:29.399 --> 01:39:29.680
<v Speaker 5>I was.

1906
01:39:31.840 --> 01:39:37.159
<v Speaker 7>The first year I retired really really was totally yeah, yeah, yeah,

1907
01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:39.479
<v Speaker 7>because you go, you know, you go from the from

1908
01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:42.199
<v Speaker 7>the firehouse to what do I do now? And it's

1909
01:39:42.239 --> 01:39:45.119
<v Speaker 7>just kind of you know, I was drinking a lot.

1910
01:39:45.199 --> 01:39:49.119
<v Speaker 7>It was. Yeah. There was a guy in my in

1911
01:39:49.199 --> 01:39:53.640
<v Speaker 7>my hunting clubs. He retired from the City p D.

1912
01:39:53.880 --> 01:39:57.359
<v Speaker 7>He did like thirty eight forty years, and then he

1913
01:39:57.439 --> 01:39:59.239
<v Speaker 7>asked me how my retirement was. And I was like,

1914
01:40:00.000 --> 01:40:02.039
<v Speaker 7>and he goes, you feel lost, don't you?

1915
01:40:02.840 --> 01:40:03.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

1916
01:40:03.439 --> 01:40:06.279
<v Speaker 9>I go yeah, yeah, So you know I.

1917
01:40:06.359 --> 01:40:08.640
<v Speaker 7>Became a pit counselor. It's yeah, I go around, we

1918
01:40:08.720 --> 01:40:12.640
<v Speaker 7>go around, we talk about certain things. Uh, every few months,

1919
01:40:12.680 --> 01:40:16.359
<v Speaker 7>there's a certain like suicide is a big thing. You know,

1920
01:40:16.680 --> 01:40:19.000
<v Speaker 7>we you know, to waste the alcohol of drug addiction

1921
01:40:19.119 --> 01:40:20.000
<v Speaker 7>and all that stuff like that.

1922
01:40:20.359 --> 01:40:20.479
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1923
01:40:21.880 --> 01:40:25.840
<v Speaker 7>And it doesn't have to be my firehouse. It's any

1924
01:40:25.960 --> 01:40:29.199
<v Speaker 7>any firehouse. Sitting around the kitchen table having a cup

1925
01:40:29.239 --> 01:40:33.119
<v Speaker 7>of coffee, talking with the brothers. And that's that's the

1926
01:40:33.760 --> 01:40:36.479
<v Speaker 7>you know, when you're retired, that's that's really what you missy.

1927
01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:39.039
<v Speaker 7>You don't you don't miss the commuting back and forth

1928
01:40:39.039 --> 01:40:39.760
<v Speaker 7>to the firehouse.

1929
01:40:39.800 --> 01:40:40.039
<v Speaker 4>You don't.

1930
01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:41.720
<v Speaker 7>You know, you don't miss the manhole covers that you

1931
01:40:41.800 --> 01:40:42.840
<v Speaker 7>got to sit.

1932
01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:44.920
<v Speaker 4>In the middle of the winter hours.

1933
01:40:45.880 --> 01:40:46.439
<v Speaker 5>I don't miss that.

1934
01:40:47.319 --> 01:40:49.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you really miss right. And let me ask

1935
01:40:49.960 --> 01:40:51.600
<v Speaker 3>you a question. Do you have the dream that everybody

1936
01:40:51.680 --> 01:40:54.520
<v Speaker 3>has you got to run and you can't find your

1937
01:40:54.560 --> 01:40:55.119
<v Speaker 3>bunkert yet?

1938
01:40:55.399 --> 01:41:00.159
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely? That's or your your your helmets missing.

1939
01:41:02.399 --> 01:41:04.279
<v Speaker 5>Helmets delayed delayed.

1940
01:41:05.720 --> 01:41:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I can't tell you how many retired

1941
01:41:07.800 --> 01:41:08.680
<v Speaker 3>guys have that dream?

1942
01:41:08.760 --> 01:41:11.800
<v Speaker 7>Man, that's we talk about that at the Retired Guys Breakfast.

1943
01:41:11.800 --> 01:41:13.600
<v Speaker 7>Almost every single person's had that dream.

1944
01:41:15.880 --> 01:41:16.159
<v Speaker 3>I got.

1945
01:41:16.319 --> 01:41:18.840
<v Speaker 4>Look, you haven't had that dreamy coops.

1946
01:41:19.439 --> 01:41:23.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, it still Jimmy, I I was gonna say that.

1947
01:41:23.800 --> 01:41:29.279
<v Speaker 6>Uh, when when I was in the fire house, like

1948
01:41:29.319 --> 01:41:32.359
<v Speaker 6>the last couple of years they had started with the

1949
01:41:32.880 --> 01:41:35.640
<v Speaker 6>counseling unit guys, you know coming to the firehouse, like

1950
01:41:35.720 --> 01:41:38.239
<v Speaker 6>you just said, like coming into the kitchen, and it

1951
01:41:38.359 --> 01:41:42.720
<v Speaker 6>was always cool to know, like you know, a lot

1952
01:41:42.760 --> 01:41:44.119
<v Speaker 6>of times in the middle of the day you had

1953
01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:45.800
<v Speaker 6>stuff going on and you're running around and doing all

1954
01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:47.680
<v Speaker 6>the ship you want to go to fire. You know,

1955
01:41:47.720 --> 01:41:49.760
<v Speaker 6>you didn't want to sit and have to talk about that.

1956
01:41:50.760 --> 01:41:53.000
<v Speaker 6>But when the when the guys came up and they

1957
01:41:53.039 --> 01:41:56.439
<v Speaker 6>were from the job, right, whether you knew the guys

1958
01:41:56.760 --> 01:41:58.560
<v Speaker 6>or you didn't know the guys, but if they were

1959
01:41:58.600 --> 01:42:01.840
<v Speaker 6>from the job, they knew the deal. It was cut

1960
01:42:01.920 --> 01:42:05.720
<v Speaker 6>to the chase. Everybody good. You know, if anybody you

1961
01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:07.840
<v Speaker 6>know reached out to them, here's my card. You know,

1962
01:42:07.960 --> 01:42:09.640
<v Speaker 6>one of those things I'm sure you know. You know,

1963
01:42:09.640 --> 01:42:11.880
<v Speaker 6>every once in a while you get somebody where you know,

1964
01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:14.680
<v Speaker 6>you really feel like this guy needs to talk to somebody.

1965
01:42:14.760 --> 01:42:16.439
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, I always.

1966
01:42:16.199 --> 01:42:17.840
<v Speaker 6>Felt like that was a big thing, is to have

1967
01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:20.920
<v Speaker 6>the guys from the job do that, because it just

1968
01:42:21.479 --> 01:42:24.399
<v Speaker 6>smooth that smooth out the rough edges there, you know

1969
01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:25.399
<v Speaker 6>that makes any sense.

1970
01:42:25.960 --> 01:42:30.000
<v Speaker 7>It's you know, for me, what's what's great. You know,

1971
01:42:30.199 --> 01:42:32.399
<v Speaker 7>my time on the job. I know I know a

1972
01:42:32.439 --> 01:42:35.319
<v Speaker 7>lot of the senior guys or you know what everybody yeah, right,

1973
01:42:35.359 --> 01:42:38.760
<v Speaker 7>the guys who are cheaps now or captains of houses,

1974
01:42:39.279 --> 01:42:41.680
<v Speaker 7>and you know, my last three years on the job

1975
01:42:41.720 --> 01:42:46.279
<v Speaker 7>I did. I tought seven prov classes, so almost I

1976
01:42:46.359 --> 01:42:49.680
<v Speaker 7>go to Yeah you weren't your instructor in Proby school, Yeah,

1977
01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:52.840
<v Speaker 7>something like that. It's you know, so it's a there's

1978
01:42:52.840 --> 01:42:57.600
<v Speaker 7>a connection. So it helps a lot, you know. And

1979
01:42:57.800 --> 01:43:00.760
<v Speaker 7>and I think, you know, old the old school guys

1980
01:43:00.800 --> 01:43:03.640
<v Speaker 7>that like broke me in. It was just like get

1981
01:43:03.680 --> 01:43:06.079
<v Speaker 7>all you know, like my father World War two that

1982
01:43:06.239 --> 01:43:09.479
<v Speaker 7>you know, just you just get all right, Yeah, that's it,

1983
01:43:09.680 --> 01:43:12.800
<v Speaker 7>you know. But now I think now it's it kind

1984
01:43:12.840 --> 01:43:18.119
<v Speaker 7>of started after the happy Lands fire up in the Bronx.

1985
01:43:18.319 --> 01:43:22.239
<v Speaker 7>You know, the guys, guys were crawling all the bodies. Yeah,

1986
01:43:24.119 --> 01:43:29.239
<v Speaker 7>it was you know, you know, and Lieutenant dan uh was.

1987
01:43:29.319 --> 01:43:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Up there for that.

1988
01:43:30.039 --> 01:43:32.479
<v Speaker 7>I think he was. He was in two ninety two

1989
01:43:32.520 --> 01:43:34.359
<v Speaker 7>and they called to ninety two up there to help

1990
01:43:34.600 --> 01:43:39.039
<v Speaker 7>help remove remove a lot of the bodies, and he

1991
01:43:39.159 --> 01:43:40.720
<v Speaker 7>was he was telling the stories going back to the

1992
01:43:41.159 --> 01:43:44.359
<v Speaker 7>firehouses that you know, guys were you know, you know, crying,

1993
01:43:44.479 --> 01:43:46.000
<v Speaker 7>they were, you know, they were all shook up from

1994
01:43:46.520 --> 01:43:47.760
<v Speaker 7>being exposed to that much.

1995
01:43:48.359 --> 01:43:48.520
<v Speaker 9>You know.

1996
01:43:49.760 --> 01:43:51.039
<v Speaker 4>I guess that you want to call it that.

1997
01:43:52.279 --> 01:43:54.520
<v Speaker 7>And I think that's kind of when the counseling service

1998
01:43:54.640 --> 01:43:57.000
<v Speaker 7>units started, you know, and then it then it started

1999
01:43:57.039 --> 01:43:59.760
<v Speaker 7>really you know, rolling after nine to eleven happens.

2000
01:43:59.840 --> 01:44:02.840
<v Speaker 3>So who was that Irish guy who was in charge

2001
01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:04.479
<v Speaker 3>of the council a long time ago?

2002
01:44:04.800 --> 01:44:05.039
<v Speaker 9>It was.

2003
01:44:07.560 --> 01:44:09.279
<v Speaker 3>He got an Irish name crying out.

2004
01:44:10.119 --> 01:44:13.520
<v Speaker 7>That was probably before my time. So yes, I got in,

2005
01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:19.199
<v Speaker 7>I say, I retired in twenty sixteen, so probably I

2006
01:44:19.239 --> 01:44:20.119
<v Speaker 7>got into the council.

2007
01:44:20.920 --> 01:44:21.279
<v Speaker 5>I got.

2008
01:44:23.680 --> 01:44:27.159
<v Speaker 3>Malachai or something like that. His name was Malichi, I

2009
01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:31.319
<v Speaker 3>think that was his name. Malachi could be Malachi. Yeah,

2010
01:44:32.079 --> 01:44:34.079
<v Speaker 3>he was like he was only one guy with the

2011
01:44:34.159 --> 01:44:36.399
<v Speaker 3>whole council unit. One guy. Now look out where it

2012
01:44:36.479 --> 01:44:37.880
<v Speaker 3>is down because we need it.

2013
01:44:37.920 --> 01:44:38.079
<v Speaker 9>You know.

2014
01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:43.439
<v Speaker 7>Oh yeah, it's it's uh yeah, it's the big thing

2015
01:44:44.199 --> 01:44:47.560
<v Speaker 7>just not not the dwell on a lot, but the

2016
01:44:47.920 --> 01:44:51.399
<v Speaker 7>big thing with the fire department is nation wide.

2017
01:44:51.439 --> 01:44:51.760
<v Speaker 5>They did it.

2018
01:44:51.840 --> 01:44:55.439
<v Speaker 7>They did a study the top ten fire departments in

2019
01:44:55.520 --> 01:44:59.039
<v Speaker 7>the country. They looked at their records the line of duty,

2020
01:44:59.359 --> 01:45:03.079
<v Speaker 7>line of duty desk compared to suicides and department and

2021
01:45:03.479 --> 01:45:05.960
<v Speaker 7>it's for every one line of duty, there's three suicides.

2022
01:45:06.520 --> 01:45:10.399
<v Speaker 7>Real suicides is actually taking more more of us out

2023
01:45:10.520 --> 01:45:13.079
<v Speaker 7>than line and duty jobs.

2024
01:45:12.920 --> 01:45:13.079
<v Speaker 8>You know.

2025
01:45:13.239 --> 01:45:16.079
<v Speaker 7>So that's that's like a big thing. We go and talk.

2026
01:45:16.199 --> 01:45:20.000
<v Speaker 7>You know, it starts talking about it. But you know,

2027
01:45:20.039 --> 01:45:23.520
<v Speaker 7>there's there's a few guys that since I've you know,

2028
01:45:23.600 --> 01:45:26.640
<v Speaker 7>since I've been doing this, have actually killed themselves, you know,

2029
01:45:26.720 --> 01:45:30.520
<v Speaker 7>and it fucks the house up, you know. So you know,

2030
01:45:30.600 --> 01:45:34.800
<v Speaker 7>we we we talk about this, how to maybe recognize

2031
01:45:35.680 --> 01:45:39.920
<v Speaker 7>maybe something's happening to from one of your brothers, you know.

2032
01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:43.199
<v Speaker 7>We yeah, so basically almost every firehouse together and we

2033
01:45:43.520 --> 01:45:45.560
<v Speaker 7>talk about that and then then we start talking about

2034
01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:46.479
<v Speaker 7>fun stuff after that.

2035
01:45:46.720 --> 01:45:47.760
<v Speaker 5>But it's kind of it's.

2036
01:45:47.720 --> 01:45:50.600
<v Speaker 7>Kind of depressing, but uh, that's that's something that we

2037
01:45:50.680 --> 01:45:52.920
<v Speaker 7>do as peer counselors and hopefully it helps.

2038
01:45:53.479 --> 01:45:56.920
<v Speaker 4>So just having a general conversation helps me. You're not threating,

2039
01:45:57.399 --> 01:45:59.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, that's a big part of it. Don't make it,

2040
01:45:59.680 --> 01:46:01.680
<v Speaker 4>don't make an official and formal you know, kind of

2041
01:46:02.079 --> 01:46:04.439
<v Speaker 4>create a conversation. Just just just shoot the ship man.

2042
01:46:04.760 --> 01:46:05.319
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't help.

2043
01:46:05.760 --> 01:46:08.319
<v Speaker 3>I use these two idiots, but you.

2044
01:46:08.319 --> 01:46:12.199
<v Speaker 7>Know, you know, I go out with Case and one

2045
01:46:12.279 --> 01:46:15.279
<v Speaker 7>or two other guys, uh yuh, you know, and we

2046
01:46:15.399 --> 01:46:17.279
<v Speaker 7>all sit at different parts of the kitchen and you know,

2047
01:46:17.399 --> 01:46:19.920
<v Speaker 7>sometimes I were done. We'll see you guys later. Have

2048
01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:22.079
<v Speaker 7>you know, have you know, have good lunch or whatever,

2049
01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:25.239
<v Speaker 7>and you get out onto the apparatus floor and somebody

2050
01:46:25.279 --> 01:46:27.159
<v Speaker 7>will come over your tap. I talked to you for

2051
01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:29.039
<v Speaker 7>a second, you know, because they got you know, they

2052
01:46:29.079 --> 01:46:33.920
<v Speaker 7>may have it may be inconsequential problem, but to them

2053
01:46:33.960 --> 01:46:38.119
<v Speaker 7>it's big, you know. Or so it's it's uh, it's

2054
01:46:38.159 --> 01:46:39.319
<v Speaker 7>beneficial to everybody.

2055
01:46:39.560 --> 01:46:43.079
<v Speaker 3>So Gus Day was Malachi Corrigan if you remember him.

2056
01:46:43.079 --> 01:46:44.119
<v Speaker 3>I knew was an Irish name.

2057
01:46:44.840 --> 01:46:47.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I say, I was way before, way before my time.

2058
01:46:47.840 --> 01:46:50.760
<v Speaker 3>No, because it was he was there when we first started.

2059
01:46:51.439 --> 01:46:54.880
<v Speaker 3>So the counciling unit was nothing. It was this guy

2060
01:46:54.960 --> 01:46:55.800
<v Speaker 3>and a couple of other people.

2061
01:46:55.880 --> 01:46:56.159
<v Speaker 7>That was it.

2062
01:46:56.319 --> 01:46:59.159
<v Speaker 3>Now it's God, it's it's it's it's what it is today.

2063
01:47:00.239 --> 01:47:02.680
<v Speaker 7>Uh Yeah, Drew Drew Kane is in charge of it now,

2064
01:47:03.039 --> 01:47:06.960
<v Speaker 7>so he's he's doing well at it. It's a tough

2065
01:47:07.079 --> 01:47:09.319
<v Speaker 7>it's a tough job. He gets the guys who run

2066
01:47:09.399 --> 01:47:12.159
<v Speaker 7>this thing, I mean they get phone calls, forty phone

2067
01:47:12.199 --> 01:47:15.960
<v Speaker 7>calls a day sometimes, you know, because yeah, the guys

2068
01:47:15.960 --> 01:47:18.319
<v Speaker 7>from my fire house call me sometimes and you know,

2069
01:47:18.399 --> 01:47:20.960
<v Speaker 7>I'll you know, with with whatever, and I'll have to

2070
01:47:21.039 --> 01:47:24.039
<v Speaker 7>call him to say a lot of times it's it's

2071
01:47:24.159 --> 01:47:27.359
<v Speaker 7>just maybe just talking with somebody, you know, I you know,

2072
01:47:27.399 --> 01:47:29.680
<v Speaker 7>I see one guy for lunch every once in a

2073
01:47:29.680 --> 01:47:32.119
<v Speaker 7>while we talk about ship that's going on with him,

2074
01:47:32.399 --> 01:47:36.239
<v Speaker 7>and uh, it helps. So it's a it's a it's

2075
01:47:36.319 --> 01:47:38.880
<v Speaker 7>a good you know. It keeps me connected to the job,

2076
01:47:38.920 --> 01:47:44.439
<v Speaker 7>which is nice coffee, yeah you say, And having a

2077
01:47:44.479 --> 01:47:46.840
<v Speaker 7>coffee at the kitchen table is like the best, the best.

2078
01:47:47.199 --> 01:47:48.399
<v Speaker 7>That's the best therapy for me.

2079
01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:52.159
<v Speaker 6>You know, you don't realize how helpful to ship coffee

2080
01:47:52.199 --> 01:47:54.319
<v Speaker 6>at the kitchen table that works.

2081
01:47:55.319 --> 01:47:57.079
<v Speaker 7>I went, I went into I went into a house

2082
01:47:57.119 --> 01:47:58.560
<v Speaker 7>on the time, and the head, you know, it's like

2083
01:47:58.600 --> 01:48:00.760
<v Speaker 7>almost to let like the bottom heard of the coffee

2084
01:48:00.800 --> 01:48:06.840
<v Speaker 7>pot was it was probably got throw that out.

2085
01:48:08.079 --> 01:48:10.319
<v Speaker 3>I love. I love.

2086
01:48:13.479 --> 01:48:16.039
<v Speaker 5>Brings back memories of the worst coffee ever in the drive.

2087
01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Yep, get to the bottom of that dream, Roffy. We're

2088
01:48:20.159 --> 01:48:22.239
<v Speaker 3>gonna get to the bottom of my dreaming.

2089
01:48:22.279 --> 01:48:24.159
<v Speaker 5>That was it? That's what was it?

2090
01:48:24.239 --> 01:48:24.600
<v Speaker 3>This one?

2091
01:48:25.000 --> 01:48:27.720
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly what it looked like, that's exactly are you shooting?

2092
01:48:29.039 --> 01:48:31.399
<v Speaker 3>And had the saddle brown interior, But that's what it

2093
01:48:31.479 --> 01:48:31.800
<v Speaker 3>looked like.

2094
01:48:32.479 --> 01:48:33.920
<v Speaker 4>The ship because I thought it was this one, but

2095
01:48:34.039 --> 01:48:34.359
<v Speaker 4>I was like.

2096
01:48:34.800 --> 01:48:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Actually that's we'll go back to that that that's the

2097
01:48:37.800 --> 01:48:38.560
<v Speaker 3>one that looks.

2098
01:48:38.399 --> 01:48:40.720
<v Speaker 4>Like yeah, because then it was the there was this one.

2099
01:48:40.760 --> 01:48:43.800
<v Speaker 4>I was like, man, which found that my father had

2100
01:48:43.840 --> 01:48:44.159
<v Speaker 4>this one.

2101
01:48:46.560 --> 01:48:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Look at the part of that car tank, bro, these things.

2102
01:48:49.800 --> 01:48:52.720
<v Speaker 4>Man, yep, we cut up a few of them.

2103
01:48:52.720 --> 01:48:55.479
<v Speaker 3>Every once in a while, I can dream by.

2104
01:48:56.840 --> 01:48:58.079
<v Speaker 5>Me and started driving.

2105
01:48:58.800 --> 01:49:02.840
<v Speaker 6>Kevin was driving his there's uh brother in laws car

2106
01:49:03.000 --> 01:49:05.600
<v Speaker 6>was a seventy seven, like I don't even know bonavill

2107
01:49:05.760 --> 01:49:07.079
<v Speaker 6>a month in Polla.

2108
01:49:07.720 --> 01:49:10.560
<v Speaker 5>Dude, the front of the car looked just like that,

2109
01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:12.960
<v Speaker 5>like we could we were two little kids. We couldn't

2110
01:49:12.960 --> 01:49:14.760
<v Speaker 5>even see seventeen years old. We couldn't even see.

2111
01:49:14.720 --> 01:49:17.199
<v Speaker 6>Over the dash he was. We would hit the gas

2112
01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:19.960
<v Speaker 6>in that thing. You would have to hang on, bro,

2113
01:49:20.199 --> 01:49:25.520
<v Speaker 6>it was eating the ground. Put your seat, yeah, it

2114
01:49:25.560 --> 01:49:27.720
<v Speaker 6>would put your back in your seat, man, no ship.

2115
01:49:28.399 --> 01:49:33.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's the big difference now with the like yeah

2116
01:49:33.880 --> 01:49:35.800
<v Speaker 7>we had we we hardly had any parking at a

2117
01:49:35.840 --> 01:49:37.520
<v Speaker 7>fire house. You know, you had to park on the street.

2118
01:49:37.960 --> 01:49:41.000
<v Speaker 7>When when my first few years there, we got probably

2119
01:49:41.039 --> 01:49:44.399
<v Speaker 7>two or three four casts stolen every every year. Yeah,

2120
01:49:44.439 --> 01:49:46.399
<v Speaker 7>you go out on a pull box or a run

2121
01:49:46.479 --> 01:49:49.399
<v Speaker 7>or something like that, you come back cause missing. But

2122
01:49:49.560 --> 01:49:51.920
<v Speaker 7>now now you know, we always had the ghetto cruises.

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<v Speaker 7>Now now everybody has a luxury cause and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>why I am doing good? Yeah, the Procachina, BMW's and

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<v Speaker 7>you know, big wood trucks and everything like that.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think it's about that time.

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<v Speaker 5>It may be that time.

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<v Speaker 4>But before we do so, I just wanted to point

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<v Speaker 4>it out before I forget. Steve Weisman from your Fairfax

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<v Speaker 4>says hello, I want to make sure. Yeah, he's in there,

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<v Speaker 4>so I didn't want to be that. I will save that.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, okay, yes it is.

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<v Speaker 7>I hope. I hope he looks as old as I will.

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<v Speaker 4>All Right, So Coops, is it that time? Lou?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I believe So Okay, that's fucked up. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>He keeps skipping in it out, Yeah, lose a little

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<v Speaker 4>skipped up. Anyway, here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>It is time for.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh hey, all right, old school tip of the day.

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<v Speaker 7>I've been you know, watching watching the show. Most of

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<v Speaker 7>the guys leave, you know, probably everything I would say,

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01:50:58.760 --> 01:51:00.880
<v Speaker 7>you know, a good tip of the day thinking about

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<v Speaker 7>it to two small tips of the day would be

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<v Speaker 7>size up. That's something I think everybody should practice. Uh,

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01:51:14.159 --> 01:51:16.399
<v Speaker 7>you know it size up doesn't start when you get

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<v Speaker 7>to the firehouse. It starts when you leave your house.

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<v Speaker 7>But carry that over to your off duty time and

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01:51:25.319 --> 01:51:27.479
<v Speaker 7>size up every you go to a restaurant. When you

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<v Speaker 7>go into a restaurant where you sit down, look look

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<v Speaker 7>for the secondary means of egress. Look look for maybe

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<v Speaker 7>where the fire extinguishers are, or or or something. Anywhere

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<v Speaker 7>you go movie theater, sides up the movie theater, and

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01:51:44.119 --> 01:51:48.039
<v Speaker 7>just that gets you in the habit of becoming better

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01:51:48.159 --> 01:51:51.720
<v Speaker 7>at it, and it may get your ass out of

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<v Speaker 7>a jam on the outside knowing where everything is. The

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<v Speaker 7>other small tip would be learn how to force the

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<v Speaker 7>door by yourself without any assistance. If you're if you're

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<v Speaker 7>the O V searching floor above, and you have and

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01:52:11.039 --> 01:52:13.880
<v Speaker 7>you get trapped maybe and there's there's nobody to swing

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<v Speaker 7>them all for you, learn learn how to force the

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<v Speaker 7>door just with the alegant and all by yourself. Even

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<v Speaker 7>a metal frame door you can do by yourself if

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01:52:22.279 --> 01:52:26.239
<v Speaker 7>you do the technique right. So all that does is

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<v Speaker 7>you just need to do. You know, when you're when

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<v Speaker 7>you're after a job or whatever. In the metal frame doors,

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<v Speaker 7>you know that that could be a drill for for

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01:52:36.119 --> 01:52:38.680
<v Speaker 7>you or your company. Everybody try to force the door

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<v Speaker 7>by themselves, and once you get the technique down, you

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01:52:43.399 --> 01:52:46.600
<v Speaker 7>should be good. You know, it's always better with with

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<v Speaker 7>everybody else. If if your rabbit tool breaks, you're still

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<v Speaker 7>got to have to go conventional old school way. So

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<v Speaker 7>learn learn how to use the alegant and you'll be

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<v Speaker 7>you'll be good to go. And that should be it's all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, excellent. You know, it's funny. We teach her regularly.

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<v Speaker 4>Now we teach the guys how to force the door

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<v Speaker 4>by themselves. We're short staff down here. We're not rolling

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<v Speaker 4>heavy like I always say.

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<v Speaker 7>But you know, you know in pro Probay School they

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<v Speaker 7>have that together the inward outward opening door that they

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<v Speaker 7>take around for drills to the firehouses, and it's always

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<v Speaker 7>always a two person operation. When I was when I

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<v Speaker 7>was teaching at the Rock, I go up there with

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<v Speaker 7>the hallick and I do it by myself, and the

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<v Speaker 7>guys are like, how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this? Well?

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<v Speaker 7>You know, I got I got the You know, you

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<v Speaker 7>have to learn how to do it. You know, it's

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01:53:32.279 --> 01:53:33.960
<v Speaker 7>you're not gonna have somebody with you all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you tell them, how do you get the

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01:53:36.000 --> 01:53:39.039
<v Speaker 3>car to you hall practice, practice practice man.

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<v Speaker 4>Get in those reps. Bro, you gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep, God, let's do our last thing before we go.

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<v Speaker 9>Yea, here are you ready? It is?

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<v Speaker 5>Here, It is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a Roofie and I for the fifty third annual

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<v Speaker 3>Fire ex Bowl hosted by Lancaster County Fireman's Association. The

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<v Speaker 3>fire x Bowl showcase more than two hundred and fifty emergencies,

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<v Speaker 3>servious exhibits featuring the world's leading manufacturer of fire, emergency,

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<v Speaker 3>medical services, rescue and public safety equipment, and T shirts

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<v Speaker 3>with me and Roofy There. Fire Expo not only has displays,

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01:54:10.680 --> 01:54:13.439
<v Speaker 3>exhibits in a lot of demonstrations, but also provides training

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01:54:13.920 --> 01:54:19.000
<v Speaker 3>from Cumberland Valley Volunteer Firefighters Association, Penn State, Hershey Life Lion,

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01:54:19.079 --> 01:54:23.680
<v Speaker 3>Critical Care Transport, Middle Creek Search and Rescue PA, Office

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01:54:23.720 --> 01:54:27.439
<v Speaker 3>of the State Fire Commissioner. Full training descriptions and details

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<v Speaker 3>are available on the website www dot LCFA dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Backslash Fire Expo. So it's May sixteenth and seventeenth, nine

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<v Speaker 3>to five. Come out and see me and Louis down

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<v Speaker 3>in Harrisburn. Have a cocktail with us.

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<v Speaker 7>So maybe yeah or three are you buying.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah yeah, Bro, come on down.

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<v Speaker 4>Wants to know how the pizza cuta is doing? Whoa

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<v Speaker 4>as well?

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<v Speaker 3>It's selling, it's selling.

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<v Speaker 6>I got something I gotta I gotta shout out go

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<v Speaker 6>with a kid. So I had sent this to the

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<v Speaker 6>guys h this past week. This was from Aaron Burns

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<v Speaker 6>Lee on Facebook. She sent me a message. I forget

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<v Speaker 6>if it was a Chief Burns or Captain Burns on

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01:55:14.960 --> 01:55:17.960
<v Speaker 6>the job. She said, thank you you got my dad

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01:55:18.039 --> 01:55:20.479
<v Speaker 6>through his suffering. He had nine to eleven illness and

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<v Speaker 6>watched you guys most days. It made him feel close

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<v Speaker 6>to the job by hearing the stories. You do so

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<v Speaker 6>much more than you think. God bless that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>Broad job of the world. Makes it worth seeing you

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<v Speaker 3>guys every week, doesn't it. Man?

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<v Speaker 4>We know we were making a difference.

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<v Speaker 3>Bro. Don't forget April first week. April will be out

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<v Speaker 3>in Nindy. Yeah, it's out there. John'sill just coming right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I'm gonna bless you with my presence.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, Jim.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you know when Andrew levin Zeno I think I'm

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<v Speaker 4>pronouncing it right L A V E and Z. I.

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<v Speaker 4>You know eleven Zeno one of our regulars was asking

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<v Speaker 4>about earlier. Just figured out, don't recall he's a captain

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<v Speaker 4>of Newton in a jersey with them with him Stevie

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<v Speaker 4>pee Weee, mister peewee, who's Jesus? Very regularly on nine

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<v Speaker 4>to eleven?

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<v Speaker 3>Not Laredo, it's a orto. Don't make I did anyway?

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<v Speaker 3>You got you're right, Kevin Brown. Kevin Brown says, now

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<v Speaker 3>Jim's got a boat ride coming, Yes you do. August second, Jim,

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<v Speaker 3>all of our past guests from this year, we take

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01:56:29.439 --> 01:56:32.319
<v Speaker 3>you out on a fireboat to John J. Harvey. We

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01:56:32.399 --> 01:56:35.560
<v Speaker 3>cruise around Manhattan. We threw some drinks down our trucks

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01:56:35.640 --> 01:56:39.600
<v Speaker 3>and some uh, some food works for me. Invitations will

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01:56:39.600 --> 01:56:40.720
<v Speaker 3>be going out shortly.

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<v Speaker 7>At the firehouse, saying if it's a free oh it's

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01:56:44.840 --> 01:56:45.039
<v Speaker 7>for me.

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01:56:47.199 --> 01:56:48.960
<v Speaker 3>Hey take it away. That's what I say.

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<v Speaker 5>My name is Joe. I never say no wow wa

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<v Speaker 5>you pull name. Take anything you can give me, you

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01:56:57.399 --> 01:56:57.640
<v Speaker 5>give me.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, all right, fellas. So next week we

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<v Speaker 3>tried to get a show together next Thursday for the

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01:57:04.640 --> 01:57:08.359
<v Speaker 3>one hundredth centennial of Rescue two. Try to get you

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<v Speaker 3>guys from Rescue too. They got a great hotcovered book

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<v Speaker 3>from the same author as Day Save New York. It's

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01:57:13.880 --> 01:57:15.800
<v Speaker 3>a great book. We'll go through the book, the pictures

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01:57:15.800 --> 01:57:17.199
<v Speaker 3>and the history of Rescue two with a couple of

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01:57:17.239 --> 01:57:19.960
<v Speaker 3>evers of Rescue two. But until then, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I say, stay low and go.

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<v Speaker 5>Damn. It was a pleasure all those years running away.

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<v Speaker 5>You enjoy your retirement.

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody all right, guy, Remember we're out rolling heavy yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>Good night, yes, good night everyone,