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Now let's dive in to today's episode. So before we

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get started with today's episode, I wanted to let you

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know what happened again in this studio. We welcome back

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Guru Nath or Yogi Raj as he's known as well.

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And the energy that I felt in this room, I

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was brought to tears again a couple of times. Some

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of the insights that he shared with me in turn

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with you, we're so profound, so simple, so beautiful, so

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moving that it really shifted me.

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Speaker 2: It really changed me.

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Speaker 1: And if you wait till the very end of this conversation,

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Grunaf gives you a blessing, a transmission that when I

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was receiving it here, it just was just waves of

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energy as he gave this meditation and this blessing to

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all of us. It is something that I'm still kind

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of He literally just left five minutes ago, so I

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just wanted to come in here while it was still

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fresh in my mind. I'm still kind of taking it in.

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I'm still kind of on a high from this, come

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from this, not only from this conversation, but from this blessing.

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So I hope you enjoy this. When you're watching this,

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just sit back and let it kind of wash over

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you as he speaks, as he transmits his energy. Let

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it just wash over you as I did while I

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was in the room with him. So enjoy I'd like

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to welcome back to the show returning champion, Yo Girash.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, Yogi Rash fine?

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much for coming back. Our

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last conversation or transmission that we had went viral. People

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went crazy. They loved our conversation, they loved your energy,

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they loved what your message was to the world. And

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I had to.

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Speaker 2: Have you back.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had to have you back. It was

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It's always a lovely it's always lovely to have deep, deep,

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deep conversations that help people around the world.

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Speaker 2: So I appreciate you coming back.

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Speaker 3: That's true. But I was not doing anything. I was myself. Yes,

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I was standing still in myself. That must to give

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him the transmission.

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Speaker 1: Hey, it worked, I guess they liked it.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see if we can.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if we can Let's see, let's see what happens,

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See what happens in this conversation. So my first question

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to you, Yogiraj, is what does earth Peace through self

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Peace mean? Because so many people are worried about saving

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the world and saving and changing the world and helping

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people around the world doing you know, there's a lot

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of difficult things happening around the world. But this concept

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of Earth peace through self peace, can you explain.

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Speaker 3: That, Yes, these meditation transmissions are done every full moon.

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Today happens to be the full moon, and I believe

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there's a lunar eclipse also. Anyway, all said and done,

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I give it the name Earth Peace through Self Peace.

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And I developed a technique whereby you could radiate love

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and peace to the world at large, transporting yourself to

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the Moon and radiating silver swans to the Earth for peace,

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and then transiting to become the Sun. You yourself become

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the Sun and then radiate the missiles of eight point

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seven billiont swans through the Sun. So the silver swans

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and the golden swans of the Sun and Moon comprise

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the Earth piece meditations. Now, why I called it earth

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Peace through Self Peace is what I wanted to tell

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people that they cannot be earth peace without self peace. First,

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you must be full of peace and overflow with that peace.

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And when you overflow, you glow and you give to

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the whole of humanity. If each human being is saturated

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with love, he can give earth peace to others more

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effectively than when he himself is wanting. So you must first.

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That's why I've had a first meditation of the Golden

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Lotus in which you create self peace today in my

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earth piece, they always they show it. And when you

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have self peace, then you go on to radiate earthpiece.

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If your bank balance is empty, you cannot donate to others.

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It's as simple as that. If you're full of peace

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and love, then only you can give it to others.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing that so many people want to

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help others and wants to give others. But it's kind

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of like you have to take care of your own house, yes,

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before you, you know, go out and start giving in

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many ways. And this ability to be enlightened within yourself,

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having peace within yourself, having love, having light within yourself,

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just by doing that act alone will change the world

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because you become an example and people start to fuel

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your energy as you walk through life.

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Speaker 3: Is that true? That is very true. But in this

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case I thought that we should multiply it and that

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tens of thousands and even millions of people should practice

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this earth peace meditation. The logic is this that if

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one man thinks a good thought, that thought will ripple

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across the mind's lake of the collective consciousness and mind

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of humanity. So one thought has a ripple effect for

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the good or for the bad. If they think bad,

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then how much more effective it would be for tens

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of thousands of people and millions of people with one

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intent meditating and making the sound of the peace and

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love radiatating it to the earth. It will bring about

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earth peace, not of what extent it will bring it about.

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This is a new thing and you have to you

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are you are going into hatred and malice and terrorism

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with peace and love and resolve for good. So these

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two forces, when they interact, what the result will be

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will be. You see, our job is to do the

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best that in these times of trial, tribulation, terrorism and

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world warlike situations. We have to improvise, or we have

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to develop this technique which I have developed called Earth

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peace through self pie, which we are doing today now

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as I speak, there are thousands of people all over

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all over the world who are practicing this earth peace meditation.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you with Yogi's and gurus, the Buddha himself,

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all of them, they all spoke about enlightenment. And that

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is a term that has been thrown around very much, so,

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especially over the last fifty or sixty years here in

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the West. And what is your definition of enlightenment And

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can you also discuss what enlightenment is in your eyes

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in the sense that so many people feel that once

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you're enlightened, it's over. The game is over, it's done.

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I'm enlightened now, I'm like the Buddha, I'm like the Christ.

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I'm good. I don't have to do anything else now

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I'm now enlightened, and I walk around in pure bliss

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all the time. But you are someone who found self

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realization early.

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Speaker 2: In your life, and.

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Speaker 1: Yet you have lived very among us in this world,

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have a family, all these things. So can you kind

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of talk a little bit about the balance and the

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misconceptions of that word enlightenment. We'll be right back after

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Speaker 3: Show humanity today, and the human being as such is

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basically and fundamentally enlightened. You see, it's just like I say,

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you put the hands of your mind upon the eyes

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of your soul and cry that you cannot see. Take

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the hands of your mind away from the eyes of

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your soul and behold your own enlightenment. So the innate

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essence of who you are, the reality who you are,

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is enlightened, but it is covered by the mind. The

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mind is composed of the chitta. The mind is called

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the chita, and it is composed of the intellect, the ego,

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and the ratu sinating mind the typist. So the intellect

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is Buddhi. The ego is Amgar, that faculty in a

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human being which is self arrogating and always gives the

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Buddhi the intellect, the feeling of ownership. This is mine,

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this is yours, so yours and mind and the manners

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is the lower mind, which takes directions from both the

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intellect and the ego. That is the intellect Buddhi and

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the ego the mannus, which is the lower mind. It's

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like a stenographer. It just types and keeps the art.

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Akashik records. Now when you you are in a state

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of mind, your state of mind that I'll make a

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long story shot. Freedom from mind is enlightenment. Now what

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remains after mind goes because when the mind is composed

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of the intellect or intuition, high intellect. Below that comes

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the ego, the arrogating principle or the principle says that

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I am great, this is mine, this belongs to me,

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This is my studio, this is my house. And the

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third factor is the stenographer. The third factor is the

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one who has no decision making but just takes down

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the impressions, which is the intellect, the ego, and the

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lower mind. The higher mind is the intellect. The lower

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mind is called the lower mind. It has passions and emotions. Also,

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the higher mind is intuition and creating stuff, discovering new things.

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But in between them is sandwich, the ego, the arrogating principle,

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which makes you think that you are the duer. But

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behind all this the buddhi amkar and manas, which is

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the intuition, the ego, and the lower mind. Behind this

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there is an all pervading consciousness which never changes. It's

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always there. It is the ego that thinks makes the

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intellect think that I am enlightened. Now I am in bondage.

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They enlightened. All which you may call God or you

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may call the reality is always and perpetually present the moment,

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the drama of the chitta, which is the collective mind

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of intuition, ego and lower mind. This forms the collective

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mind which we call chitta. The chitta also is composed

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of Buddhi amkar, the ego, and manas the dower mind.

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This is playing the whole game and the drama and

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making you think that I am in bondage and I

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am free. Now let me give you the example that

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you are the sun in the sky. That is the arthma.

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There's no word for arthma, and the English language they

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call it the soul. But it's a very limited and

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misleading word. It should be called the eternal awareness, or

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it should be called, for lack of a better word,

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and what word to use, the easiness of the zero

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not zero anyway, let's not get into those details. I

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would say that this is like the sun. A simple example.

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I'll give you who is your true self? The sun?

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Who is the mind? The ocean? Now the sun casts

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its reflection in the ocean, the waves of the ocean mind.

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The oceanic mind has the reflection of the sun. Thee

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that is, the intellect, feels that it is the reflection

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of the sun. It mistakes the reflection of the sun

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to be the sun itself. Where the Sun was always enlightened,

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ever enlightened, it was never ignorant. But the cloud of

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ego which influences your intuition, makes you feel that you

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are God, that you are in ignorant, and you are

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the celestial awareness. You are not the eternal immortal awareness.

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You are you are not affected. But the waves the

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ego creates the waves of ownership and makes the intellect,

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intuition feel that it is in bondage. It is the

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soul in bondage. The sun is in bondage. Now, as

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long as there are ripples of thoughts in your mind's lake,

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you cannot see the moon of your delight. You cannot

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even see the reflection of the sun, nor the actual sun,

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because you're so involved in the waves. Those are the

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waves of thought which create a disturbance in the mind

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to make you feel that you are in bondage or

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you are free. But who is in bondage, not the sun,

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not the arthma or the soul. It is the reflection

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of the sun which is in bondage, which the ego

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deludes the intuition into thinking that the Buddhi or the

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intuition the intellect is in bondage. Then who is free

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and who is in bondage? The freedom is got when

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the ego subsides the ripples of the mind's lake, there

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is freedom from mind. Then you see the enlightenment of

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the sun reflection without any waves do distortion. After you

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see it's not distortion you look above. So this is

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the penultimate stage sabikal Samadi looking at the still image

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in the ocean. But the nivikal samao enlightenment is when

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in bondage or enlightenment. It was only the reflection, but

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the real sun. The real Sun is high above in

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the sky. And as soon as you the intuition, the

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ego and the manus look at the Sun, that very

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intuition or Buddhi or intellect is enlightened. So the intellect

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is in bondage and the intellect is enlightened due to

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the delusion of the ego, which causes the ripples of

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lakes in the mind's lake. The moment you take the

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hands of the eye the ego away, the more my

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eye doth disappear, the more the self is God appears.

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called yo. The yolk. Sathana helps to purify the mind

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the electrons, protons, and neutrons of which the mind is made.

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with the ego, who is the mischief maker. And so

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the more humble you be like they teach you to

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to practice every day. It's to train your mind to

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get to such a refined state that you transcend the gunners.

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of the proton. Now, the luminosity of the the electron is,

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the activity of the proton is rajagun, and the inertia

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of the neutron is thamogun. So these three gunners make

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up the mind, nature or prakruti or the cosmic mind.

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protons and neutrons. Will be right.

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Speaker 3: So this is what constitutes nature, which we call prakruti,

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which we also call the cosmic mind, as long as

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the cosmic mind which is ensconced in each individual as

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the individual mind. You see like there's a big bucket,

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but you take off each drop, each mind from that

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cosmic bucket. Each mind has the reflection of the sun.

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mind reflected in the sun. So that drop of water

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thinks that I am the Sun. I've absorbed the whole Sun,

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and I'm enlightened. No, this all has to subside. The

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drop has to merge in the ocean, and the ocean's

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mids thoughts have to be still. Then you see the

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reflection of Saba other U sees. You see God through

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the crystal mirror of the mind. Which is the penultimate,

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not the final stage of enlightenment. It is the stage

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before enlightenment where the prakruti laya purush, the cosmic being.

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the whole of nature. If you see these great saints

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like Francis of Assisi and Nietzsche, they all had the

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suppiculp state, but they couldn't get to the nib culp.

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rid of the individual ego. So when the whole thought

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processes in the individual is is thing than he is individually,

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he's individually enlightened, enlightened, self realized. When the cosmic ego

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of the whole ocean of creation is done, then he's

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God realized. So when he's when he's individually realized, self realized,

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he's realized only in his body and the self. He

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is still in a perfect state of mind, still mind.

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and the reflection goes, then he is God realized. He

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goes to the final state beyond ego and I.

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Speaker 1: So these masters, like these saints, like Saint Francis of

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Assisi and Nietzsche and many others, they were self realized masters, yes,

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but they weren't God realized.

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Speaker 3: This is what I'm saying from my own experience, my

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own vision and this is what I feel. This is mine.

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through experience. I'm not talking through books.

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Speaker 2: Right exactly.

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Speaker 1: So, then Buddha and Christ were God realized. Yes, that's

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the difference, Yes, Babaji obviously.

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Speaker 3: Yes, this topic I believe was to come up after

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the topic we have finished. Then this topic about the

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various saints and their states were supposed to come up.

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Speaker 2: It's coming up naturally.

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Speaker 1: So Yoga Nanda was God realized.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yogananda was a was a beautiful example to show

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how he went under the tutelage of his god realized master,

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the self realized Paramansa Yogananda translated to the god realized state.

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Speaker 2: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: When you were saying it is Mahasabadi.

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Speaker 1: Yes, And when you were saying everything in regards the

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example of the ocean and the mirror and the reflection

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and all of that, the thing that popping into my

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head was Plato's allegory.

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Speaker 3: Okay, are you familiar with the Plato's alley? No, tell

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Speaker 1: The plato allegory of the cave is essentially, there are

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people who are tied in a cave looking at a wall,

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and in the wall behind him there's the door to

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the outside. They don't know the outside exists. The only

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their only reality is what's on the wall. The light

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from outside is casting shadows. Those shadows that are playing

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on the wall are their reality. They don't know anything different.

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One of them escapes and gets outside and sees the

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beauty of outside reality. The real reality comes back in

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and says, hey, this isn't real. This is what's real

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out there, and they're like, you're crazy. This is our

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reality and that's all. And they didn't they didn't even

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want to look behind them.

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Speaker 3: That's the allegory.

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Speaker 1: So it was the casting of the sun and the

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light and the shadows as a reflection.

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Speaker 3: This is the similar This is the difficulty you're going

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to have with many people to make them break away

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from that duality and do the reality. There's another beautiful

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example of when you go to see a cinema. On

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the cinema screen, yes, two things are cast. Light and color.

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they go onto the screen, they are mixed, and you

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feel that the screen what projected under the screen. It's alive,

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is alive with the sound, live is out. But at

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the screen, at the theater, it's difficult, it's different altogether.

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from these two. They none of them can operate without

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the light. So also nothing can operate without the reality.

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The duality does not exist without the reality.

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Speaker 1: And now you're entering my world, which is the movie world,

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which is where I come from. And one of my

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favorite quotes from Yogananda is that we get all caught

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up with the show of a movie, and there's death

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and violence and love and every aspect, every spectrum of

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human experience is on the screen. We're so focused on

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the screen. What we need to do is turn around

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and see where the light is coming from. Where is

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the projector the light of the projector coming from, which

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is similar to what you're saying, the light.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Alis says, be careful of even that, because

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we are in a screen, behind a screen, behind a screen.

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you see a relative reality, but not the ultimate reality.

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you see the real reality. So this is. This is

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like the first stage of samadi, which is the samadi.

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but still a dream. And then there's the Ni Samadi,

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which is the final And who knows behind that there

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may be another dream.

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Speaker 1: And another and another and another.

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Speaker 3: That that is not there. Because the people realize and

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the reality itself speaks, you know that is there, but

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it it is warned in the yog Wishisht. They have

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said this the dream within the dream.

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Speaker 1: I have to ask you what is People ask me

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all the time, what is the point of this, all

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of this? What is the point of incarnating, coming down

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to earth, struggling, succeeding highs lows duality? What is the

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purpose of it all? From your point of view?

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Speaker 3: My answer to them is, you haven't even entered intogarten

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and you're asking cosmic questions. Let me ask you a

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counter question. What is not the point of all this?

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What is not the point of all this? It is

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so glorious, it is so wonderful with all its life.

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It's livingness, it's suffering, it's joyous, it's sorrow, and this

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is God's Leelah this is God's play. I don't say God,

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I say the play of reality. And it's been happening

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through millions and billions of years. And some little, pindly

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little sparrow pipes up and puts his hand up and says,

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what is the purpose of all this? My answers, meditate

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and find out for yourself.

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Speaker 1: So when you say meditane and find out for yourself,

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can you dig in?

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Speaker 3: This is the first part. What is not the point?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: The second I do explain what the point is the

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second X part of the explanation. The point of creation

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is first that it is a perpetual and ceaseless process,

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ongoing and everlasting. To narrow it down further, that the soul,

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which here is the Buddhi or the intellect, with its ego,

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it enters into the descending arc of creation to learn

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its lessons in the university of life. And unless the

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ego is battered and hammered, it will not learn its

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lesson because, ultimately, mind you, the ego, along with the intuition,

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transformed into the reality. That's why I've called my techniques

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the alchemy of total transformation. Like in Italy. They all

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they tell me Gurunata teach us the alchemy of total

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terrans ermitsie. So I like the way they say it,

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as ad first learn the kindergarten thing. The first thing

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your your arsons Brana, I am disciplines. So the University

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of Life has to teach these egos who are in

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prakuruti in nature. So these egos with the intellect ego

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and their stenographer, they are strutting about thinking that they

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own the world. You see, many people are there. They

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are narcissists.

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Speaker 2: There a few of those.

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Speaker 3: They think they think that there's nothing beyond them. But

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they're not bad. Is just the stage of evolution. The wrists,

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they are not bad. It's a stage of evolution.

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Speaker 2: You see.

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Speaker 3: They are people with animal appetites. Now, all these different

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stages of evolution have to be knocked and hammered in

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with tongue and hammer and little tin. Work has to

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be done at the Great Noah's Ark before it sails

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out with every pair of degree of human souls. You know,

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will be right.

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Speaker 3: Who are at the at the at the level of

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the groundhog, at the level of the of the the zebra.

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the elephant, all of them have these traits emotionally psychologically.

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they won't read. At the level of the ram. Two

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rams on a bridge, hammering their heads away. You see

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all this. So this is the ego with all its

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animal traits. This has to be refined. There's an arc

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in a cycle of the evolution of human consciousness human mind.

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life and the universities of life and all its grace

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and gets more and more material It likes materialism. It

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likes wine, women and laughter, sermons and soda. Water. The

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day after and as it gets its experiences, it is

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surfeited and satisfied. It's had its ferraris, it sowed its

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wild oats, It's had its most beautiful woman. He has

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been a billionaire. And after that they decide to.

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Speaker 2: Do good work.

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Speaker 3: Then they want the ascending arc, the same soul. The

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purpose of all this is learning the lesson in the

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university of life than he leaves. Then he starts meditating,

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he starts contemplating, and starts listening. To devotional songs, starts

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going to meditation centers more often because his desire is

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to awake. He has to awaken what he does not

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know as yet, till he later knows that he has

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to awaken himself. When people look for God and they say,

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there's enlightenment somewhere, I've made a small poem, and it

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is if you try to evaluate your mind or rationalize

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your mind, and try to fit God into your little

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rational mind, then there will be havoc. Do not try that.

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Do not try that, Just surrender. I have made a

475
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poem that you will go topsy turvy. If you try

476
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to comprehend that which is beyond mind in your mind,

477
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:09,720
that which is in finite in your finite mind, then

478
00:33:09,759 --> 00:33:13,440
what will happen to you? They will be chaos. For

479
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hear your feet upon your head, your head is humbled

480
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to the flaw. The are filled mystery. You yourself ask

481
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no more. I will repeat for you, please, for if

482
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you try to analyze God, be you'll go topsy turvy.

483
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For hear your feet upon your head, your head is

484
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humbled to the floor. The are filed mystery, You yourself

485
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,240
ask no more. And if you want to know, you yourself,

486
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do the necessary means of yoga practice the necessary means

487
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to achieve the necessary end.

488
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Speaker 1: You were mentioning about materialism and the ego grabbing, aren't

489
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the things We all, all of us have the knowledge

490
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that we're going to die. We know that this is limited.

491
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Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't call it knowledge. I would call it

492
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information information, because knowledge only comes after you've had the

493
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experience those who have had the experience of after I

494
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,639
did experience like I've had many times. Otherwise, besides, somebody

495
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,519
also you go to the body, there's something superior to

496
00:34:20,599 --> 00:34:23,599
the body, then that it would be knowledge. But here'say,

497
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and book is reading would be information.

498
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Speaker 1: So information. So we all have the information that we

499
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are going to eventually pass, that this is a finite

500
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time that we're here. And yet the world has held

501
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onto the material so much, fighting for land, fighting for riches,

502
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:48,239
fighting for the physical world and women and all this

503
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:54,280
kind of stuff, and yet it doesn't seem like it

504
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,400
makes no sense. It's almost ridiculous someone who says, I

505
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,480
own this land, you're renting them. You're only here for

506
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:04,760
a cirtama. So why do you believe that humanity has

507
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been so obsessed with the material for.

508
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Speaker 3: So long, But what else are they going to do.

509
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:13,079
It's the best thing that they can do at their

510
00:35:13,199 --> 00:35:18,360
particular stage of evolution. I've seen people, I mean, if

511
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,599
you see there are big funds, and they are big

512
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,239
people who give away vast donations. I believe that that

513
00:35:26,119 --> 00:35:31,320
Bill Gates has made foundations for charitable institutes. There are

514
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big charitable institutes in the world which are giving away

515
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food and help aid to people all over the world.

516
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And alongside they are parallel to them, are running cartails

517
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of corruption, okay, and they're making sort of things like

518
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,000
fentanyl and all that which will be very harmful and

519
00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:58,639
could kill society. So that that is their level of evolution.

520
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,840
This is their level, believe you evolution. So there seems

521
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to be quite a variety of peoples and souls on

522
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,320
this earth. These these varieties of souls, if you call it,

523
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:13,719
the minds, the ego minds, egoic minds. So which is

524
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,280
the development of the state of ego and true education,

525
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,719
I believe is not in bookish things. It is to

526
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educate the ego in humility, so that those people who

527
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are humble will not try to grab excess wealth or

528
00:36:30,679 --> 00:36:33,840
might not try to give people equal wealth, which is

529
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also wrong because they are not worthy of it intellectually.

530
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They must strive to give people an equitable amount of wealth,

531
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each one according to his own merits. So this is

532
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:49,679
what our society should be, whether they be egalitarian societies

533
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or democracies or dictatorship. If the ruler is just like

534
00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:57,320
in ancient times they had there were some lord ram

535
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:01,480
and Krishnovs, ancient rulers Marcus. Yes, yes, that they were

536
00:37:01,559 --> 00:37:06,239
very just rulers, very just rulers. So this is the

537
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:10,719
whole game of life. And as the soul learns its

538
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,320
lessons in the university of life, as the mind, the

539
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,760
cosmic mind I call it, he evolves and ultimately it

540
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,159
transforms himself into that reality. He merges into the subtle

541
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:29,360
aspects of mind. He becomes from the particle electron to

542
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,880
the wave of light and then becomes enlightened light. So

543
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,440
this is the way. The other thing is there that

544
00:37:40,559 --> 00:37:47,079
the reality which is reflecting it's light on the whole

545
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:56,480
of creation is animating creation. And if creation is not animated,

546
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all this world would be a dead soup and dead

547
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:07,280
mass of unanimated matter which would lie waste. This whole

548
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:13,280
of creation would lie waste, and in order to animate it.

549
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:23,599
The great reality looks upon creation and animates creation. He

550
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:29,280
is called the drishta, the process of looking. He is

551
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the witness, the cosmic witness, the drishta, the process of

552
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:40,639
looking is drishti. And during this process srishti, or creation

553
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:46,239
is made. So there's the drishta, the drishti, and the Srishti.

554
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The Drishta is the cosmic onlooker. He does nothing, but

555
00:38:51,039 --> 00:38:54,599
just by his looking, the process of his seeing, creation

556
00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:02,760
is made. And in that these electrons turns light, matter, energy,

557
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,280
All is created, and creation is created by his mere looking,

558
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:15,519
his mere being. So the very existence of reality fuels

559
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:21,480
the existence of creation. And then if there were to

560
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be no reality, he would turn his face away, then

561
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all this would be dead matter.

562
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Speaker 1: It's interesting you're when you're saying that the one thing.

563
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Speaker 3: That pop but it's all one it is.

564
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Speaker 1: But the one thing that popped into my head was this.

565
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:42,760
You've heard of the double split, double slit experiment. In

566
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:49,599
quantum physics, wave particle duality. Exactly when there is an

567
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when there's someone watching, the intention, the just the awareness,

568
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the consciousness, the particles change.

569
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Speaker 3: Because look, there was a quantum scientist called Fon Neumann.

570
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I don't know whether they've heard of fan Noman. Now

571
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,920
Neumann conducted an experiment. I don't know how he could

572
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conduct that. It does not seem to me to be possible.

573
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But they say that he conducted and he looked through

574
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the telescope. He looked blank into space, into blank.

575
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Speaker 2: Will be right.

576
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Speaker 1: Back after a word from our sponsor, and now back

577
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:32,960
to the show.

578
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Speaker 3: And suddenly an atom appeared, an obstacle appeared. So he

579
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said he went to the Royal Academy of this thing,

580
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knowing that he would be kicked out at the very start.

581
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So he said, look, I would like to say something

582
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that when I conducted this experiment, I looked through the

583
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blankly at space. I'm not remembering whether you look look

584
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through the electron microscope or whether you look through a telescope,

585
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or whether you just look blank. He must be looking

586
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,280
through a telescope or this thing. There was nothing, and

587
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:21,840
then this particle suddenly appeared. So he said, I'm sorry.

588
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,320
May some of you may not. It may not be

589
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,800
in keeping with your mindset. But here's my question. If

590
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,440
there is an infinitely larger being than us, they call

591
00:41:31,519 --> 00:41:36,519
him God, if he just looked at creation. Couldn't creation

592
00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:39,679
come into being? When I looked an atom came into

593
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being in the last they said, oh, you're talking nonsense.

594
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And this is they say. And they said, no, you

595
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:48,599
don't come with all this stuff. We will reject it

596
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:50,840
at the output, you know, like a judge. It doesn't

597
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,800
stand the table suite. But he said that this idea

598
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:00,280
I got from the ancient rashies and in their texts

599
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,320
like the yog Wa Shisht and the Mahartamanjari and the

600
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Pinnderbrammand of Gorukh Shashiv gork Shababaji and the Patanjal Yoga sutras.

601
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,719
In these texts it is mentioned that there is a drishta,

602
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,239
drishti and srishti, there is a seer the process of

603
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,679
seeing and creation. So the seer by merely seeing it

604
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,559
is mentioned in all the textbook. That's what I just

605
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:34,119
told you before. For Neumann's experiment that by merely seeing

606
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the process of seeing created creation.

607
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Speaker 2: Mm hm.

608
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Speaker 3: It has already happened, and that is how the beginning

609
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of creation began. But there were many such seeings and

610
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,679
many such cycles. Because after the whole cycle we'll get

611
00:42:54,679 --> 00:42:57,039
to that later it's a different thing. You know. There's

612
00:42:57,079 --> 00:43:00,840
a Manmantha and a prelay Mahamanamantha and a Mahapralay.

613
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,199
Speaker 2: What are those?

614
00:43:02,559 --> 00:43:05,840
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, yes, Maha Yuga and a Mahapralay. So

615
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,559
it's the awakening of God and his sleeping, the awakening

616
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:14,199
of creation and going into deep sleep of the reality.

617
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So reality and creation alternate. They both originate from reality.

618
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But he wants to be many, so by merely seeing

619
00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:28,400
by his Drishti, he creates creation. It is a fact,

620
00:43:28,639 --> 00:43:31,599
and that's why I give you von Neumann's example, the

621
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:32,800
very nice example.

622
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: Very much so, very much so are we are we

623
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:44,480
sparks of the divine? It's our soul or altma sparks

624
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,480
of the divine? I asked this question very specifically because

625
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:51,599
so many of us, so many humans, always are looking

626
00:43:51,639 --> 00:43:55,400
at a middleman to talk to God, or they don't

627
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,599
believe that they have the strength of the power to

628
00:43:57,679 --> 00:43:59,559
do anything in their own life. They have to have

629
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,519
something outside of them. But the true power, from my

630
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:06,280
understanding and my experience, lies within. So I would love

631
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,840
to have your experience or your explanation of is are

632
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,760
all of us sparks of the divine spark of that

633
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:15,800
greater consciousness.

634
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 3: We are not merely sparks of the greater consciousness, but

635
00:44:23,599 --> 00:44:30,760
we are the divine. Only the mud of the mind

636
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,880
has come in the way to the truth of who

637
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,519
we actually are. You see, we are already the water.

638
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,679
They're given an example in this thing that, like water

639
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,280
flows in a field, it is dammed up by the mind.

640
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,239
The mud of the mind covers the splendor of the soul.

641
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:54,039
The mud of the mind covers the splendor of the

642
00:44:54,039 --> 00:45:00,199
super mind, the intuition, their all mind, you see, their

643
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:04,880
all mind, the intuitive mind. Then at a grosser level,

644
00:45:05,559 --> 00:45:11,000
the ego mind. Then at a grocer level, the intuitive God,

645
00:45:11,039 --> 00:45:17,599
I should say, as mind. Then there is the ego

646
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:22,000
god as a humkar. Then there's the mental god as

647
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:26,960
emotions and passions. Is God in the passion too? Without him,

648
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,880
there can be no passion. You see everything, Then it

649
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,360
grows grosser and grosser. Like even if you take the

650
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:43,360
elements hydrogen, helium, hydrogen, helium, oxygen, water age duo. Then

651
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:48,519
from water comes dampness, condensation eyes. Then there comes damps

652
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,639
that through the damp water, the earth is created, and

653
00:45:51,679 --> 00:45:55,719
the mud is created, so light itself is matter at

654
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,480
its subtlest, or God is at its subtlest and matter

655
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:05,039
at its crossest. Do you mean to say, gurunat that

656
00:46:05,199 --> 00:46:10,840
matter is God? Yes, I do, sir, course, then what

657
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,400
is it that gets enlightened? Is it the soul that

658
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,119
gets enlightened? No, you are already enlightened. But you are

659
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:22,559
a grossive form of enlightenment. Through permutation, combination, and through

660
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:26,360
eons of billions of trillions of years, you evolved from

661
00:46:27,159 --> 00:46:33,480
the earth to the water, water to the fire, fire

662
00:46:33,559 --> 00:46:40,400
to air, etheric radiance, from radiance to pran, that is

663
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:47,719
the living light, from pran to divine mind, from divine

664
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:52,920
mind to divine consciousness. And then there is the merger

665
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:57,039
of the divine consciousness, the enlightened light, with he about

666
00:46:57,079 --> 00:47:01,000
whom not may be said. This is the gradation of

667
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:04,800
the alchemy. If you may permit me off, please do

668
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,480
tarlet transfermits. This is the beauty of it.

669
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: I mean what you just said, Gruna is I mean.

670
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,880
I'm almost tearing up a little bit because of the

671
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,960
energy of what the realization I just came. I've never

672
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:26,000
felt this realization before. I've spoken to hundreds and hundreds

673
00:47:26,039 --> 00:47:31,480
of spiritual people across years now But the simplicity of

674
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,679
something that you said hit me like a ton of

675
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:38,360
bricks right now, which was this that we already are enlightened.

676
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:41,840
We just need to get rid of the mud of

677
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,559
the mind, all this other crap that's on top of

678
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:47,400
us that we pick up the second we're born, from

679
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,400
our families, our friends, our society.

680
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,559
Speaker 2: If you start to pull.

681
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: That away, you allow the enlightenment to come out.

682
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,159
Speaker 3: The truth, allow ourselves to come out.

683
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,559
Speaker 1: Exactly, the truth to come out as opposed to the

684
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:04,119
mistruths or the misunderstandings that are on top of us,

685
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:06,800
all this mud. I've never thought of it that way.

686
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:09,840
I never thought about it as we already are enlightened.

687
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:12,280
We just got a lot of coats on. We got

688
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,239
to pull these coats off. We gotta take the hats off.

689
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:17,360
You got it, and kind of shred shed all of

690
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,239
this stuff. I have never thought of it that way before,

691
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:24,480
because people when they think of enlightenment or self realization

692
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,840
in many ways, specifically enlightenment, it's something outside of them

693
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:33,800
that they discover, Like the Buddha found enlightenment with under

694
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,719
under the under the Buddha tree and the band entry

695
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,880
he found it. But all he did, was uncovered, is uncovered, uncovered.

696
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 2: It the beauty.

697
00:48:44,639 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: And if you think about Christ, same thing, same thing,

698
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,960
it's it's just beautiful and so se no.

699
00:48:51,039 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 3: Other guard besides you. There's no other guard besides you.

700
00:48:57,039 --> 00:49:05,159
Then stiller than stillness itself. Yeah, in silence, I do

701
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:15,559
behold my rising innermost star. I dissolve in that mystery untold,

702
00:49:17,159 --> 00:49:23,039
so near yet so far. This is the penultimate state

703
00:49:23,079 --> 00:49:27,679
of realization. It's near and far. But when the nearer

704
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,320
and far of you, that is your ego, and the

705
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:35,320
star which is your intuition, become one, then you become

706
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:40,559
totally enlightened. There is no duality. When you become the singularity,

707
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,719
you are entitled. This is a poem which I've made.

708
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:48,599
You cannot with your mind because you're saying you're so

709
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near yet so far, because you're still in the mind.

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But that mind dissolves. There is no mirror of reflecting

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God or Krishna, Ra or Christ or Zarathushtra. You've become them.

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Speaker 1: And that is It is difficult for a lot of

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people listening to believe what you just said in the sense.

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Speaker 2: That you are God.

715
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Speaker 3: You are God, and it's a.

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Speaker 1: Simple concept, but Western especially Western civilization, has pounded in

717
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US for so long that.

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Speaker 3: They do not know why they have pounded it into

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You will be right.

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Speaker 1: Back after a word from our sponsor, and now back

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to the show.

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Speaker 3: You see, they are half chiefs. They didn't practice the

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full of yoga, so that's why they used to get

724
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stuck along the way. The first complete system of God

725
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realization was developed in Sanatan Armine in Baratwarsh.

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Speaker 1: India, thousands and thousands of years ago.

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Speaker 3: To say that I am God is a blasphemy. Yes,

728
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this blasphemy was made a blasphemy because people on the

729
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real path of the gnossis may not develop the very

730
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ego will block your way. If you say I am God,

731
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you can only be God. You cannot say your God

732
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because the moment you say I, the ego comes in

733
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and the ego is an obstacle to your realization as

734
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your reality. So the eye has to be removed. But

735
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the purpose they've had the eye was to teach you

736
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a lesson to be humble and not say I. But ultimately,

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when the eye itself disappears, you are just be just

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be that you are. So the had become taboo because

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they associated with the ego or the Ahumgar, and the

740
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eye is the ownership principle. The moment the eye takes

741
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birth in your heart, you want this, you want that,

742
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you do ownership, you know. So to avoid all this

743
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they prevented the eye. But ultimately there is no eye

744
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,960
in that. You don't say it's eye.

745
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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you, then, what is the concept

746
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of I am?

747
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Speaker 3: That?

748
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:19,559
Speaker 1: I am what God apparently said to Moses.

749
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Speaker 3: That is the penultimate state of realization.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So in that state it makes sense.

751
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Speaker 3: In that state it makes sense because for God even

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to speak or to act in any fashion with which

753
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:40,400
the human mind or soul can understand, he has to

754
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,400
take a form. And he took a form as the

755
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burning bush. When he took a form in the burning bush,

756
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he also had a voice. So the moment that's absolute perfection,

757
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in which there's pure consciousness, no electron, protono neutron, there's

758
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no raja, tabatama and sun. So the moment he disturbed

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the pure consciousness and came into creation, into the divine mind,

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he became limited to creation. And therefore the God of

761
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Moses and of Abraham was isure and not Parameshwar. He

762
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was God and not the Lord God because he had

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to come down. Yes, because when you create a single

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disturbance a spunda, they say, the first vibration in non

765
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being was the spun created by God's process of vision Rishta.

766
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Seeing this spun, you begin to come into nature and intuition.

767
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So he about whom we know nothing cannot be discussed

768
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nor known unless you become it or merge into it.

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Speaker 2: Explain that.

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Speaker 3: Please, those who tell it know it not. Those who

771
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know it tell it not.

772
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Speaker 2: Do do not say.

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Speaker 3: No, It says, don't read the menu. Here's the food.

774
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Eat the mango. But those who are eating the mango

775
00:54:33,159 --> 00:54:36,599
cannot say that the mango is sweet or sour because

776
00:54:36,639 --> 00:54:39,440
their mouth is already filled with the mango and they

777
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are experiencing it to be sweet. They don't want to

778
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tell others. They say, you experience it for yourself. That's

779
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how God laid down the process of realization.

780
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Speaker 1: God realization, you've been on this plane for quite some time.

781
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You've seen humanity change of these years, especially the West,

782
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especially the West, there is more people looking to awaken,

783
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more people investigating, trying to seek out information. From my experience,

784
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do you believe that humanity is making a shift, is

785
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making this growth in consciousness that's opening up from your

786
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,039
point of view, or do we have eons to go?

787
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Speaker 3: Well? I would divide the humanity into three sections, the physical,

788
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the celestial, and the divine. So in the divine section,

789
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the causal section, more people have made it, say sixty percent,

790
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and in the celestial section thirty percent, the human human

791
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section terrestrial section about ten percent. This is how I

792
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see it. I'm open to correction now. But one thing

793
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is there, even those people in the celestial realms of

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Saint George, or in the divine realms of Michael and

795
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carthe Ke, they also had to come down to Earth

796
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and go through this rigmarole. Many of the gods and

797
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planets have to tread the Earth. They've all tread the

798
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Earth before us, and all have tread all the planets

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of the Solar System in their circle and cycle of evolution.

800
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And then they evolve slowly from planet to planet to

801
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planet to planet, and then they go to the Sun,

802
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then they go to the cosmic So these are stages

803
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of evolution. The stars are merely the vehicles which are inhabited,

804
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like informing spirits of Zoospeta, inhabiting Zoopeta of Saturn inhabiting

805
00:57:16,679 --> 00:57:28,239
jave Yaw inhabiting Saturn, of Neptuneo inhabiting Neptune, of Apollo

806
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:35,119
inhabiting Uranus. So these are the various informing spirits which

807
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inhabit these various planets.

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Speaker 1: So you do believe that planets themselves have their own souls,

809
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and that the universe, that the galaxies themselves have their

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own soul, and so on and so on, Yes, so on.

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Speaker 3: These are inhabiting beings who are grosser so that they

812
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can have subtle and subtle bodies. But all of them

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bundled into one, all of them are enlightened. Potentially in

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the future they will all go to that state of

815
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enlightenment from the very informing spirit of the Sun, who

816
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,559
already must be enlightened. You must be just sent there too,

817
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out of compassion to work for creation. We are at

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a lower rug. So we are also evolving in this

819
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alchemy of total transformation. But the transformation is total. Neither

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00:58:25,119 --> 00:58:29,159
that ring will be prevented from becoming God, neither the

821
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band you tie or the metallic substance. That will all

822
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:38,960
be progressing towards enlightenment, though it take eons of billions

823
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and brillions of years, but it will all go into

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the great void, He about whom we know nothing. Who

825
00:58:49,159 --> 00:58:51,360
art thou? I know THEE not, and yet I am

826
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of THEE. I cannot comprehend THEE. Lord, Thou Emperor of divinity.

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So I take my ego aside, humble myself. I sit

828
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in meditant silence of thy love, or in finite Make

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me thy truth, Make me thy love, eternal Lord of.

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Speaker 2: Light, Beautiful, beautiful.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you because there's I'm confused about this,

832
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and I think you're the man to ask about this.

833
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,599
I heard when I was when I've been studying Yogananda,

834
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he would talk about meditations and going into Samati. I

835
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think it's called when you go into Samati in meditation.

836
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He would go off to other realms, the astro realms,

837
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the celestial realm. Can you explain what that is? What

838
00:59:38,159 --> 00:59:41,519
is the celestial realm, the astro realm when you go

839
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:44,239
into or what happens when you go into samati? Where

840
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,960
are these other realms that we can travel to within

841
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:53,679
a deep meditation or evolution of our soul. Well, we'll

842
00:59:53,679 --> 00:59:59,679
be right back after a word from our sponsor. And

843
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:00,840
now back to the show.

844
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Speaker 3: In a yo called Layo and other mystic schools in India,

845
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they believe that the human being has seven chakras or

846
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pronic lotuses. If he wants to go to those lotuses,

847
01:00:17,719 --> 01:00:21,119
they are this, They are the different realms which are

848
01:00:21,159 --> 01:00:25,760
in his body and which are also outside in the cosmos. Okay,

849
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:29,199
So in the Gayatri Manthro they have made a mention

850
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of all the seven heavens. Bahama jam Satik is the

851
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,719
highest log that comes here. So these realms they correspond

852
01:00:42,800 --> 01:00:45,920
to the realms outside. And when you go to that

853
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,920
particular realm cosmically, you have to weigh the body, the

854
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:55,079
physical body, the passional body, the emotional body you know,

855
01:00:55,679 --> 01:01:01,159
and the the devotional body, the mental body, the intuitional body,

856
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:05,719
and the spiritual body which you have within yourself made

857
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:10,280
of matter. These bodies have you have to go into

858
01:01:10,639 --> 01:01:14,000
to enter those realms. If you can't go in a

859
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:18,039
grosser body and enter settler realm, that's what they call

860
01:01:18,159 --> 01:01:22,320
astral traveling. But all these states are relative states one

861
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,960
to another. They are relative states of enlightenment into a

862
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:30,840
vaster and vaster expression of your true divine nature. But

863
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:34,880
they are not the ultimate enlightenment only when you have

864
01:01:35,159 --> 01:01:38,719
got rid of the cosmic mind. Freedom from mind is

865
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:45,679
mokshure chit. The Britain Eroda Ha Pathangelias said in the

866
01:01:45,719 --> 01:01:48,280
Yogo Sutras that when you get rid of the chit,

867
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,760
there's not made the mind chit. There's all these things

868
01:01:53,119 --> 01:01:59,400
your lower passional, emotional, devotional mind than their ego mind.

869
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:03,320
The mind the will to do, you know, the will

870
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,639
to conquer sure, the will for name and fame, the

871
01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:09,519
will to become president. So the is the rajastic mind.

872
01:02:10,039 --> 01:02:13,480
And then you conquer the Southwick mind. Sitting and meditating

873
01:02:13,519 --> 01:02:17,960
long hours, trying to settle transform in scientific language, trying

874
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,239
to transform sabal into divulsamadhi, or to transform your electron

875
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,679
into the wave. The wave particle duality is the catchpoint

876
01:02:27,239 --> 01:02:31,960
a maya. That is the great delusion. That's interesting, That

877
01:02:32,039 --> 01:02:34,840
is the great delusion which science is at a losses

878
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:39,599
to say, Hey, is this world a particle or a wave?

879
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,559
Is it matter of spirit? We still don't know. They're

880
01:02:42,559 --> 01:02:45,559
still struggling with this. They don't they don't admit it.

881
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:50,079
So for for them, they have not penetrated the core.

882
01:02:50,719 --> 01:02:53,480
So as long as they penetrated the core, this wave

883
01:02:53,519 --> 01:02:58,320
particle will remain like a what a Schrodinger's cat in

884
01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,599
the room. The cat does exist, so it does exists,

885
01:03:01,239 --> 01:03:04,199
but you cannot argue over it unless you open the

886
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,239
door and actually see for yourself. You have to see

887
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,320
for you for yourself.

888
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,920
Speaker 1: That is, yeah, sure his cat is pretty interesting.

889
01:03:12,559 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 3: And that you'll see that the cat doesn't exist, but

890
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:19,400
it does exist. But unless you jump into that room

891
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,360
you to find out, then you yourself lose your mind

892
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,480
because you don't know whether you exist or not exist,

893
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,719
except in the larger awareness of the reality which people

894
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:34,280
call the Lord God. You see. I want to get

895
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,800
back to one point which I missed out, please, which

896
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:42,639
I need to tell you, which nobody will tell Gurunath,

897
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:48,239
how are you calling our God limited? And how are

898
01:03:48,239 --> 01:03:54,039
you saying that this word a hear a share a year?

899
01:03:54,159 --> 01:03:56,679
How do you pronounce it in jured in the Hebrew language,

900
01:03:56,679 --> 01:04:00,960
the Yahudin language, A hear a share a year? Yeah,

901
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,679
I share a Yeah. It's something like this. I am

902
01:04:04,719 --> 01:04:09,559
that I am. God does not need to say this,

903
01:04:12,039 --> 01:04:16,800
He does not need to say any word because the

904
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first word which happened with creation was according to the

905
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Sanathan philosophy of the Vedas was the big explosion. It's

906
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:36,880
called the sport philosophy. Thousands of years later they came

907
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:41,480
with a big bang. But it's a rehash of the

908
01:04:41,519 --> 01:04:42,159
first runt.

909
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Speaker 1: A few of those things and a few things that

910
01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:47,119
they've taken from the Vedic.

911
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 3: From the No, I won't say they take it. They

912
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:50,639
took it.

913
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Speaker 2: It may be inspired.

914
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Speaker 3: No, they must have discovered it individually. Of course, I'm

915
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,360
not saying no. I'm saying the dateline there that we

916
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:04,679
have already come across this. Now when they the seer

917
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the drishta, he is seeing, that is drishti, the process

918
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of seeing. At that time, a very peculiar thing happens.

919
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The Lord God creates creation, the first wave of enlightened light,

920
01:05:33,719 --> 01:05:39,480
not light. Light is too slow. Enlightened light is everywhere

921
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and nowhere. At the same time, it's not moving like light.

922
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It's not liberty. Then the great void of the lightless

923
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:52,199
light and the spirit of the Lord, to make it simple,

924
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:58,920
is accompanying his lower nature, which is called prakrutio intuition,

925
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and in that nature is formed. Nature is formed along

926
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with God. So if she has the three gunnas, Tamuraja

927
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and Satugunna. She has with it also the Lord God.

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And when there's the perfect blend of God with nature,

929
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that is not the Lord God. It is called God.

930
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It is called Ishwar the supreme Ruler, for he is

931
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with Prakuruti and he is ruling the whole creation with her.

932
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But she is doing all the activity of manus. He

933
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by his mere presence is supplying the fuel for creation

934
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to carry on. That's why at that level when God

935
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was merged with the Holy Spirit, because the Western people

936
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,800
have knocked out the feminine aspect. The macho male people

937
01:06:48,840 --> 01:06:50,519
have knocked it out, which is not which is wrong,

938
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so they're both. Theyre Shiva and Shakti. In India we

939
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have a picture of half Shiva and half Shakti are

940
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,679
the Nareshwar. Now that is a very beauty full depiction

941
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:07,039
of Ishwar God or the Lord God. Or in Michelangelo's

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Capella Sistina Cistine Chapel, they have God with his finger

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and a man touching. So that is not the Lord God.

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Because the Lord God is beyond human comprehension, beyond name

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and beyond form. The moment there is name and form.

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He is God, the God of our creation and it

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is this God of our creation that says I am

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that I am. So you have explained that the God

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of creation, once he comes into creation, he, although aware,

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abides by the laws of creation which he himself created,

951
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maybe like electro electromagnetism or thermodynasism or gravity, you know,

952
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or electrolysis or whatever whatever, these cosmic laws. So both

953
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these informing spirits, which are potentially infinite, they limit themselves

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for creation and work the whole creation out.

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Speaker 1: So Grunath, the one of your favorite subjects is Baba g.

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One of my favorite subjects to talk about on the

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show is Baba G. And in we were If anyone

958
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who doesn't know who Baba G is, they could look

959
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at our other conversation.

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Speaker 3: But he is.

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Speaker 1: Basically the the the Yogi, the master of masters. He's

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twenty five hundred years old, maybe longer older, uh, living

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in the living in the Himalayas to this day, comes

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and goes as he pleases into this incarnation, does and

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goes out and is helping humanity throughout his time, throughout

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all throughout of all history. That's my understanding of who

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Baba G is. As does Baba G work on a

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multi dimensional timeline simultaneously, like is he in multiple places at.

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Speaker 2: The same time?

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Speaker 1: Because right now, when I speak to near death experiencers,

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I have a lot of people in the West, when

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they die, they see Jesus or they see Buddha or

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something like that. But Jesus can be everywhere at once.

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But yes, he can be everywhere else once, because he's

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everywhere at once on the other side, because on the

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other side, you can project yourself a thousand billion places

977
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at once. Can Babaji do the same in this timeline

978
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in this place? Because we were talking earlier about God

979
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coming down into creation or into materialism, and it changes

980
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because he's now away from the ultimate version of himself.

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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 3: You see, people when they're speaking about Barbajee, they have

983
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given a very very limited picture of who baba Ji is. Okay,

984
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according to my humble in depth experience, I think they're

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giving a very relative and a very limited experience of

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who Babaji is, especially in the h in the in

987
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the in the time frame manner in which they are

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talking about this being.

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Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor

990
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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 3: Mm hm. He is the very core of creation, okay,

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But as he comes down through the septenary heavens to

993
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lower and lower fields, this being limits himself. This being

994
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accommodates himself to the limited understanding of man. You see,

995
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each one knows barba Jee to the extent of his

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personal realization of Barbaji, but nobody knows him in his

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complete essence. There are two aspects. When we speak of

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Barbaje in his unlimited divine sense and the others that

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01:11:21,079 --> 01:11:24,319
we speak of Barbajee in his limited sense, where he

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came as the paraper group of permans Yogananda and the

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supreme group of all the the initiates of the Korea

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Yoak section, which is a very small fraction of who

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Barbage really is. What would you like me to start with?

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01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,560
His how I would understand him to be, or how

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01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,560
the people are talking about which is very boring. I

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like you version.

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Speaker 1: I like your version better.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: So my version is that at the beginning of time,

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before time, this non being essentiality who I call baba Jee, existed.

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01:12:23,960 --> 01:12:27,359
Why I have given this title is that although he

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is the non being, he is still the essentiality of

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01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:37,199
all matter. Although he has nothing to do with matter,

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he is the father of all matter. This is the

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source from where he comes. That means the source in

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01:12:44,199 --> 01:12:46,720
plain and simple words is he does not come from

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01:12:46,760 --> 01:12:50,159
he sure of God. He comes from the Lord God.

1018
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And I've explained this process before that at the beginning

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of time there was this fot theory as you can

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call it, where creation began and the Dhrishta, the seer,

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01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:16,560
the Supreme, in the process of seeing, created Babaji as

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01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:22,399
the spirit, and Prakluthi with her quality that is nature,

1023
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:27,720
the divine mind, cosmic mind, and cosmic consciousness came into

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01:13:28,159 --> 01:13:38,159
creation at the same time. Right, the cosmic matter was

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01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:42,039
composed of the three goners Raja, Tamasatwa, and the cosmic

1026
01:13:42,039 --> 01:13:49,119
consciousness remained consciousness side by side accompanying and animating a creation.

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So that was the prush who was amen animating the Prakurti.

1028
01:13:54,880 --> 01:14:00,560
So the Parusha and a Prakriti are depicted as shiver

1029
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and Shakti. They are called ar the Narishwar. And in

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this in my book Babaji the Lightning Standing Still, I

1031
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:17,840
have said that Shiva is the lightning holder, the lightning wielder,

1032
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,079
and the lightning molder all at once, as the lightning

1033
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:28,359
as the lightning holder, he shiv goorak Shababaji as the

1034
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:35,880
lightning molder. He shiv go uk Shababaji and Mataji which

1035
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,920
is ar the narishwar Shiva and Shakti half Shiver and

1036
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:46,720
half Shakti as the lightning wielder the molder, and the

1037
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:51,239
third state is the lightning wielder where the Shiva aspect

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01:14:51,239 --> 01:14:54,520
becomes silent and only Shakti. She wields the whole of

1039
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,239
creation with the three guns of Raja Tamasatwa and creates

1040
01:14:58,279 --> 01:15:02,159
the whole of creation with electrons, tones and neutrons, respectively.

1041
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And that is creation. This is where Barbaji's origin is.

1042
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:12,319
He is, He is the easiness of the zero, not zero.

1043
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 1: I've read somewhere that Babaji her sister is that correct.

1044
01:15:18,319 --> 01:15:22,680
Speaker 3: Barbaji's sister is called Martha gi Okay and she is

1045
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:27,079
none other but his own aspect, his dynamic aspect of

1046
01:15:27,119 --> 01:15:31,159
the potential, Barbiji of the Purush, the Prakuti aspect is Marthaji.

1047
01:15:32,079 --> 01:15:35,760
And they have come into this world. They have come

1048
01:15:35,800 --> 01:15:39,920
into this world to bring harmony, peace and the evolution

1049
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:44,720
of the whole of creation back to its source and

1050
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:51,199
specifically in the school of Yogavtar Larry Masa Gyanotarsuk Theeshar

1051
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:57,520
and Praymautar Parmasyogananda. He is given this science by his

1052
01:15:57,560 --> 01:16:04,399
mere presence and Larim Marsaire's innovation and his his beseeching Babaji.

1053
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The science soul saving science, next level soul has come

1054
01:16:09,279 --> 01:16:14,000
to us by the grace of Yoga Lahirimasaya and ghana

1055
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:19,399
Tha's ryuk Tisher, who is my isht Deevda with Gorukhaat.

1056
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,760
And I was born on the tenth May, the same

1057
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:27,520
day as Ghanatha's yu Tisher, And therefore there are certain

1058
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:32,039
realizations I've had with him connected to Babaji. But Babaji

1059
01:16:32,119 --> 01:16:37,760
is Even in the autobiography, other people have said, do

1060
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:43,479
not try to know who is Babaji. You cannot pierce

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:50,680
his transcendental star. Even Permans has mentioned this. You cannot

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01:16:51,119 --> 01:16:53,560
pierce his transcendental star.

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01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,239
Speaker 2: What do you mean by that?

1064
01:16:58,239 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 3: That is beyond mind and me. So it is very

1065
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:07,720
difficult to tell you what I mean by that, And

1066
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:13,119
I cannot make you know that because nobody has Persti

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01:17:13,279 --> 01:17:24,279
transcendental star. But however, barber Gi, he is called Barbajee

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01:17:24,319 --> 01:17:30,479
for namesake, whom I personally call Shiv Gorukh Shah Babajee.

1069
01:17:31,039 --> 01:17:33,920
And this is the Barbijee I have had vision of.

1070
01:17:36,279 --> 01:17:39,199
This is the Barbiege I associate with and merge with

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01:17:40,039 --> 01:17:47,399
by his grace, not mine, m h. And I have

1072
01:17:47,439 --> 01:17:51,920
written this book as an humble offering and his honor.

1073
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:59,039
Barbijee the lightning standing still, So he is beyond light, causation,

1074
01:17:59,159 --> 01:18:03,479
space and time. Only when he stands still in light

1075
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:05,800
can he take a form, and the form of Barbaji

1076
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,399
come because light does matter at is subtlest with the

1077
01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:13,760
photon and the quark and the new trino. These are

1078
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:17,039
subtle building blocks and he has to come down to

1079
01:18:17,079 --> 01:18:20,640
take this form in creation. That's why he gets his

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01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:25,520
name Babaji, Shiva Baba brembach Baba.

1081
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,399
Speaker 1: So the stories that are in Autobiography of a Yogi

1082
01:18:28,399 --> 01:18:34,640
by Yogananda of him basically walking around the Himalayas as today,

1083
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,960
still walking with a group of initiates that are with

1084
01:18:38,079 --> 01:18:43,439
him in students. He kind of just appears and disappears

1085
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,800
and goes to wherever he wants to go and everything works.

1086
01:18:47,000 --> 01:18:49,319
Is that how you understand Barbaji as well.

1087
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,239
Speaker 3: No, okay, I understand him very well at that level. Yes,

1088
01:18:53,399 --> 01:18:57,680
Paraman's yoganandad to give a very very simple, basic, basic

1089
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:00,680
thing of Barbaji in those times because the force of

1090
01:19:00,800 --> 01:19:04,560
Christianity was a lot and he had to sort of

1091
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:08,640
play to the understanding of the Christian people in the

1092
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:13,279
Christian Church. Therefore he said, the christ like Yogi this thing.

1093
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:20,039
But Babaji's a stature was way beyond anything we can imagine.

1094
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,079
And you see, I have given an idea. This is

1095
01:19:25,119 --> 01:19:28,119
a very simple but correct idea of Babaji. You see,

1096
01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:32,880
he comes from the supreme unknown. But he is a Mahavatar.

1097
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:39,479
So Ava through Avatru means dissent in diminishing order. Ava

1098
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:44,960
thro descend in diminishing order, so that Babaji can accommodate

1099
01:19:45,039 --> 01:19:48,600
himself to the limited understanding of man. With that point

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01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,039
of view, Yogananda has made it simple for people to

1101
01:19:51,159 --> 01:19:55,039
understand that Barbaji is a physical body. He roams about.

1102
01:19:55,039 --> 01:19:57,359
He can disappear and appear at any time. He is

1103
01:19:57,399 --> 01:20:01,920
not bound by the laws of karma and nature. He

1104
01:20:02,039 --> 01:20:05,039
is beyond that. That much he's given and he roams

1105
01:20:05,079 --> 01:20:10,279
with his little band of advanced disciples upon this earth.

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01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1107
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:19,840
and now back to the show.

1108
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:27,319
Speaker 3: But there are other heavens and planes and planets where

1109
01:20:27,359 --> 01:20:31,479
he is also functioning, and other galaxies too, So.

1110
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:32,520
Speaker 2: He's multi dimensional.

1111
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:37,640
Speaker 3: But I multi dimensional is a is a very beggarly

1112
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:42,920
word for what his majesty is very beggarly word. Because

1113
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:47,079
we have a few coins of worn out words. We

1114
01:20:47,239 --> 01:20:50,279
are sure we are compelled to use those words, because

1115
01:20:50,279 --> 01:20:55,199
we're from a begging bowl of vocabulary. Paucity of words

1116
01:20:55,199 --> 01:20:58,159
we have. So therefore I have written, who are Now?

1117
01:20:58,279 --> 01:21:01,520
I know thee not words are so dry and dumb.

1118
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,560
I cannot comprehend the Lord, the Emperor of divinity. But

1119
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,600
however I gave an idea. Somebody asked me, what do

1120
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:17,800
you think of barbi Gee? So people still, some of

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01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,600
them feel that I have not given these words, but

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01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,199
I've invited them to research. It's no big deal. If

1123
01:21:24,199 --> 01:21:28,279
it's if it's anywhere, I don't mind. But I'd said

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01:21:28,319 --> 01:21:44,520
this somewhere. Barbi Gee is the being who plays with causation,

1125
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:51,880
space and time. M hmm, like a child plays with

1126
01:21:52,119 --> 01:22:03,319
soap bubbles. And if he were to smile. In his innocence,

1127
01:22:05,279 --> 01:22:10,640
he could shatter the world. This is my loving expression

1128
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:14,479
of Barbaji. I don't want any limitation, I don't want

1129
01:22:14,479 --> 01:22:17,279
any linear thinking. I don't want anyone to hedge me

1130
01:22:17,359 --> 01:22:20,840
in with my ideas because I'm a poet. Let me feel,

1131
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:23,720
feel me free, Let me feel free to fly the

1132
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:33,399
azure sky of unlimited love and eternal no die. So

1133
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,640
just to give you a taste of what he is.

1134
01:22:36,159 --> 01:22:39,640
He plays with causation. That means he is doing the

1135
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:46,079
role of the supreme initiator on all the heavens, seven

1136
01:22:46,119 --> 01:22:50,399
heavens and earths, and also looking after the people in

1137
01:22:50,479 --> 01:22:57,159
the seven hells Rasatal palaa patal Tala tal rasatal you know,

1138
01:22:57,199 --> 01:23:00,279
all the seven hells, like the sevens. It is his

1139
01:23:00,319 --> 01:23:07,159
majesty because of whose presence that these hells our existence.

1140
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:12,079
Otherwise even the damn hells would disappear. This is my

1141
01:23:12,199 --> 01:23:15,199
personal view of Barbigee and I keep it close to

1142
01:23:15,239 --> 01:23:19,920
my heart. And I have been deep, but this is

1143
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,960
the shallowest. But if you cannot pierce his transcendental star.

1144
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:28,079
And I'm telling you this, which is making the audience dizzy,

1145
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:32,359
as to his majesty and what he is, then what

1146
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:36,840
can be beyond his transcendental star? What state of the

1147
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:41,279
easiness of the zero not zero, must Barbajee be. I'm

1148
01:23:41,279 --> 01:23:45,000
talking about the grand Venalia where the source of Barbiege is,

1149
01:23:45,520 --> 01:23:48,880
and I cannot talk about it because there are no

1150
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:54,359
words all this. These words I'm using for him are

1151
01:23:54,399 --> 01:23:58,960
from the begging bowl of our vocabulary. There's a paucity

1152
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:05,399
of words for what I have experienced, and that is

1153
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:09,600
not the finale. So they said, then how does he

1154
01:24:09,640 --> 01:24:13,279
come down to earth? How is he? Every person meets seminole?

1155
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,479
I said, even now, barbi Gee could be in the theater,

1156
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:20,640
even now, you could experience him in your breath. But

1157
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:27,159
each one, according to his own capacity, you are barba

1158
01:24:27,239 --> 01:24:35,439
Gee to the extent you know Barbajee. A little child

1159
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:48,239
knows Barbajee as Santa Claus. Hmm, okay. Let's say another

1160
01:24:48,319 --> 01:24:51,800
child will come they say he's a very great, a

1161
01:24:51,840 --> 01:25:01,880
great saint, or he's Elijah or Christ. Another greats person

1162
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:08,439
may come and say he's just beyond in the highest Samadhi.

1163
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:12,600
It depends upon their degree of realization. So I'm seeing

1164
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:17,560
everybody who gives a description of Babajee is correct. One

1165
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:20,520
person says Babajie lives one kulp, he is one hundred

1166
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:25,439
and twenty years You're right, Babaji is just seven hundred

1167
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:29,760
years old. I mean, with all due respect to those people,

1168
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:37,039
it makes me laugh, you know sure. And even the

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descriptions that I have taken out of Barbijee from the

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ancient scriptures, mind you, I call him Shiv Gorukh Shah

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01:25:49,159 --> 01:25:56,680
Babajee permans Yoganan was born in Gorukhpur Okay m hm

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and his father Bagwati Charan ghost was a great devotee

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of Gorukhian art. Therefore he called his first son Gora

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01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:12,000
the the Majada majilay Dada. The name of the book

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01:26:12,159 --> 01:26:17,199
is actually in Hindi we call it majalay Dada middle brother,

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01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:23,199
and the short for it is Majeeda Majlada. The younger

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one was Yogananda. But Yoganantha was was found meditating deep

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as in the Goa Khanat temple, not in the Barbiji

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01:26:30,079 --> 01:26:32,640
that there's not a temple. There's no temple known as Barbaji.

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01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:37,199
They have Yogananda to not expose it. Clearly to the people.

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01:26:37,239 --> 01:26:40,199
He didn't say it is gorukh Art Temple. Then otherwise

1182
01:26:40,239 --> 01:26:43,000
he is clearly mentioned. If I were to mention the

1183
01:26:43,039 --> 01:26:46,079
miracles of Barbaji, if I were to tell you in depth,

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01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:51,199
it would fulfill ten volumes like Autobiography of a Yogi.

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01:26:52,079 --> 01:26:54,920
I suppose I am here to fill the second volume

1186
01:26:55,920 --> 01:27:00,000
of the Autobiography of a Yogi, delving a little deeper.

1187
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:04,800
You see, he will let us know only how much

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01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,439
he wishes us to know. We cannot delve more into

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01:27:08,439 --> 01:27:11,560
his deepest star. But I have known that it is

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01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:16,439
none other than Shiver gourak Ser Barbaijee, who is the

1191
01:27:16,439 --> 01:27:20,319
Barbijee of autobiography for Yogi, and I have had his experience,

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01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:29,039
and in that experience, I have seen them to be

1193
01:27:29,119 --> 01:27:33,840
the same. I will also give you a scientific explanation

1194
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,640
for this. Don't worry, this is the age of science.

1195
01:27:37,359 --> 01:27:40,960
I'm not trying to shirk away from anything. And I

1196
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:45,960
am agreed to others opinions. This is my personal experience.

1197
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:50,560
It's not an opinion. I don't go on opinions in faith,

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for faith is blind. Experience is that which blazes the trail.

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Speaker 2: You see.

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Speaker 3: In my last talk I had given about Majalda Majeda

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01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:10,079
of the book in which his name is Gora and

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01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:14,560
the Baguicharan asked for a child, a spiritual child. He

1203
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:19,000
was given it by Gorukshanath. Gorukshan Arth is still aware

1204
01:28:19,039 --> 01:28:25,800
and around and you can still experience him. Anyone who

1205
01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:31,399
chants his name with reference attracts an instantaneous blessing. This

1206
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:41,039
is the splendor of Shiv Gouraksha Babaji at the beginning

1207
01:28:41,079 --> 01:28:59,600
of time, this being along with the integrated consciousness of

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01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:08,159
the un livers. When it was seeing, there was a

1209
01:29:08,279 --> 01:29:12,000
great explosion from his heart which people now refer to

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01:29:12,039 --> 01:29:14,920
the Big Bang, and all but the scriptures in the

1211
01:29:15,039 --> 01:29:19,319
Nath traditional Sooy said Gurakshnad was born from the great

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01:29:19,399 --> 01:29:24,720
explosion of Shiva, who is the lord god parham Shiva.

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01:29:26,319 --> 01:29:34,680
Was this Shiva born, This Shiver was born. The birth

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of Barbajie was from the explosion of the heart of

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01:29:39,680 --> 01:29:48,119
this integrated consciousness from the before time and then time

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01:29:48,199 --> 01:29:52,960
and causation and space gradually took their place in the

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cosmic laws simultaneously.

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Speaker 1: Will be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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01:30:04,399 --> 01:30:05,640
and now back to the show.

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Speaker 3: And when he burst forth from the heart of Shiva

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along with him with the Drishta. The process of seeing

1222
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:22,119
was goruk Shanat, an Isshakti, Perushian, Prakriti, Shiv and Parvati.

1223
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:29,079
So the Shiv that was meant to look after creation

1224
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:36,760
is called Gorukhnath Gorba, and the Paramshava which is to

1225
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:42,159
be perpetually in the state of Samadhi is Mahadev Sadashiv

1226
01:30:42,600 --> 01:30:48,239
or Paramshiva. Now this Shiva along with Parvati is also

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01:30:48,319 --> 01:30:54,319
called Ishwar. Goruk Shanath has been given that work for

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01:30:54,399 --> 01:31:00,560
this whole cycle, the great world cycle, and he divides

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01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,720
himself into many other swam Homan who's many other narts

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01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:15,439
all over creation in descending limitations of the space time continuum.

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So he accommodated himself to the space time continuum. You see,

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01:31:22,279 --> 01:31:26,039
he accommodated him himself within light. Otherwise, what is there

1233
01:31:26,119 --> 01:31:28,560
three hundred thousand miles per second for a correction arth?

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01:31:28,920 --> 01:31:32,680
What is it for Barbajee? He's there, here, there, and

1235
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:41,760
everywhere instantly, and he appears to people at many times

1236
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:45,920
at many places. Why do people talk such nonsense as such? Baby?

1237
01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:50,199
These are kindergarten things. If you take a role call

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01:31:50,319 --> 01:31:54,079
or a spiship, you inquire around the people. I'm saying this,

1239
01:31:54,199 --> 01:31:56,840
I feel humbled with all humility, but people have to

1240
01:31:56,840 --> 01:32:01,439
be educated. I'm appearing to hundreds of people many times

1241
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:04,720
at the same time. This happened in Maui. This is

1242
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:07,359
happening here and they don't even know me. And when

1243
01:32:07,359 --> 01:32:08,840
they see me on TV, they said, this is the

1244
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:11,199
man who appeared to me in the dreams. So this

1245
01:32:11,319 --> 01:32:15,039
is a very kindergarten stage. We people are are nowhere there.

1246
01:32:16,359 --> 01:32:19,279
So this is the second state of initiation, which is

1247
01:32:19,319 --> 01:32:22,079
called there. There are these various stages of initiation. You know,

1248
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:24,800
first you have the duij the twice born. Then you

1249
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,439
have the Kooti jerk. Then you have the Hamsa, then

1250
01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:31,560
you have the Parampansa ford degree of initiation, after the Paramantsa,

1251
01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,479
then you have the sidha fifth degree. So at the

1252
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:39,199
second degree of initiation you begin to get this astral travel.

1253
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:43,199
It's not a big deal. But to get astral travel

1254
01:32:43,279 --> 01:32:47,159
with purpose, you must be directed by high command by

1255
01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:51,199
other higher beings like Shri Yukkesha, Lahari Baba Yogoar, Gayanotar

1256
01:32:51,279 --> 01:32:56,720
yuk Kisher and the mahathar Anupa Duka Swambu Shiev go

1257
01:32:56,800 --> 01:33:01,840
uk Shababaji. So Shiv go uk Shababaji is that being

1258
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who in his spiritual self spiritual awareness lasts for the

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01:33:07,039 --> 01:33:14,800
whole world, the whole cosmic cycle of three hundred and

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01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:20,279
forty trillion years. After that, he goes into his own

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01:33:20,319 --> 01:33:23,760
state of Samadhi along with the great Brahma, who is

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01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:31,119
called the silent watcher. Hmm, you see one day of Brahma.

1263
01:33:31,199 --> 01:33:38,359
Let me tell you. People boast about the Aztec calendar

1264
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:41,239
or the Mayan calendar, it has come to an end.

1265
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:44,159
It is five thousand years ago, so it means two

1266
01:33:44,199 --> 01:33:46,079
thousand years ago. How did they know of five thousand

1267
01:33:46,159 --> 01:33:50,000
year old cycle? Well, listen to the great calculations of

1268
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:58,840
Asura Maya and the Brahmmerishid Brugu, and the great Grand

1269
01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:04,760
Rishi Auguste and the great calculator of cosmic cycles nar Rather,

1270
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:11,199
they were all great calculators. Asura Maya was a great

1271
01:34:11,239 --> 01:34:17,000
being cosmic calendar. They calculated to three hundred and forty

1272
01:34:17,159 --> 01:34:20,560
trillion year cycle. The life of our creation, the life

1273
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,880
of our creation is politely saying that is the life

1274
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,279
of one of the creators. This is the Hindu calendar

1275
01:34:26,319 --> 01:34:31,600
of the cosmic cycle, the Sanathan calendar. Now in this

1276
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:37,399
three hundred trillion years, there is one day of Brahma,

1277
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:43,399
that is one day. To give you a better picture,

1278
01:34:43,399 --> 01:34:46,560
for a better understanding, if you go to the Sistine

1279
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,079
Chapel of Michelangelo and you will see God, that is

1280
01:34:49,119 --> 01:34:53,119
the creator they have depicted. So his one day in

1281
01:34:53,199 --> 01:34:55,920
the cosmic cycle, not in the individual or human or

1282
01:34:56,000 --> 01:35:01,399
cerestial cycles. They're smaller cycle within cycles out then the

1283
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other one day of this cosmic cycle is equal to

1284
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:19,560
four billion, three hundred and twenty million years. That is

1285
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:23,319
a day of our creator. The Michelangelo picture that you

1286
01:35:23,359 --> 01:35:24,920
see with the big beard in the say and the

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01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:33,159
Lord God, Oh of a I share a air. Now

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01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:40,640
in this one day is divided into fourteen sections, and

1289
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:46,359
there are the fourteen kings who rule each of the

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minor world cycles. There is a cosmic sense also not

1291
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:58,279
in the terrestrial or human sense. So in this cosmic self,

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01:35:58,439 --> 01:36:03,199
each mono rules for three hundred million years, and there

1293
01:36:03,239 --> 01:36:08,680
are fourteen such manus. So if you constitute a reign

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01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:14,680
of a divine manu for three hundred million years, and

1295
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:20,359
you multiplied by fourteen, you get four billion three hundred

1296
01:36:20,399 --> 01:36:23,319
and twenty million years, which is a day of Brahma.

1297
01:36:26,760 --> 01:36:29,800
You understand, I do. Now there are one hundred days

1298
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:33,279
in a year of Brahma, and so on and so

1299
01:36:33,319 --> 01:36:38,079
forth this and and one hundred years in the life,

1300
01:36:38,119 --> 01:36:40,439
so and so forth. It goes on. It's too complex

1301
01:36:40,479 --> 01:36:43,279
for me to calculate. Also because the numbers are so

1302
01:36:43,279 --> 01:36:48,560
so mind boggling. This is one cosmic cycle of creation.

1303
01:36:50,079 --> 01:36:52,159
You're going to the mines in all five thousand years

1304
01:36:52,159 --> 01:36:58,119
ten thousand years cycle. It's the sauce is Ariavarta India.

1305
01:36:58,399 --> 01:37:03,000
Sanatan Dharma has through the great Narathen Brogu and Auguste

1306
01:37:03,079 --> 01:37:09,680
and Asuri maya great gigantic calculators of superhuman intelligence have

1307
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:13,119
calculated this and now they are not going wrong. They're

1308
01:37:13,159 --> 01:37:16,119
still right. You know what they're saying. Now you will

1309
01:37:16,159 --> 01:37:22,119
be surprised. The rain of one sun one solar cycle

1310
01:37:24,039 --> 01:37:30,800
is two hundred and eighty two hundred and eighty to

1311
01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:34,279
three hundred billion years. The time it takes the Sun

1312
01:37:34,319 --> 01:37:36,560
and our solar system to go around the black hole

1313
01:37:37,199 --> 01:37:39,600
is two hundred and eighty Between two hundred and eighty

1314
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,760
to three hundred million years. They are still calculating because

1315
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:46,760
exact science is never exact, because you can't calculate exact

1316
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,079
science on a moving universe. That is a problem. Yes,

1317
01:37:50,199 --> 01:37:53,600
that is the problem. Ever expanding, Yes, ever expanding. Now

1318
01:37:54,640 --> 01:38:00,880
they who calculated it five ten thousand years ago, seven

1319
01:38:01,239 --> 01:38:04,640
ten thousand years ago, We would give them the benefit

1320
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:07,520
of the doubt. They're saying three hundred years reign of

1321
01:38:07,520 --> 01:38:11,239
one king, one celestial king, divine king. And here they

1322
01:38:11,239 --> 01:38:13,399
are saying that the divine king is always the sun,

1323
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,319
our son and many other sons. They take two eighty

1324
01:38:16,319 --> 01:38:19,000
to three hundred million years. So there is the rain

1325
01:38:19,039 --> 01:38:22,119
of one spiritual Moneu. That's a word cycle. Then there

1326
01:38:22,199 --> 01:38:26,560
is a lay and a minimum destruction period called prelay.

1327
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:31,399
According to the cosmic, not celestial or human. Human cycle

1328
01:38:31,479 --> 01:38:34,479
is much shorter, which Ghannouthar's youth, they sure has given

1329
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,359
of the yuga. It's a twelve thousand year old cycle.

1330
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:41,680
Twelve thousand and twelve thousand, twenty fourth year, thousand year.

1331
01:38:42,039 --> 01:38:45,479
Then there's a personal cycle. So let's not get into

1332
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:50,199
all this. This is a calculative system. And I was

1333
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,640
very bad at math in my see, I used to

1334
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:57,760
get I used to get the big zero in trigonometry

1335
01:38:57,840 --> 01:39:01,039
and this thing. Till I realized that Vivekan spoke on

1336
01:39:01,079 --> 01:39:04,159
the zero. That gave me a lot of encouragement. And

1337
01:39:04,199 --> 01:39:07,039
I'm giving the zero on no mind state. I realize

1338
01:39:07,039 --> 01:39:10,960
the value of the zero. That's why I comfort myself.

1339
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,279
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, with everything that's happening in the

1340
01:39:17,279 --> 01:39:22,000
world today, what do you believe Barbajee's message would be

1341
01:39:22,079 --> 01:39:23,960
to humanity right now?

1342
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:34,239
Speaker 3: Barbaje's message would be to look at humanity as the

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01:39:34,319 --> 01:39:44,039
silent watcher and sustain the whole of humanity and creation.

1344
01:39:45,159 --> 01:39:45,560
Speaker 2: M hmm.

1345
01:39:47,119 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 3: For him, the rabbit is not bad. Neither is the

1346
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:54,239
king cobra.

1347
01:39:56,199 --> 01:39:58,680
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

1348
01:40:02,319 --> 01:40:03,560
and now back to the show.

1349
01:40:06,079 --> 01:40:09,960
Speaker 3: The savage is not bad eating raw meat. Neither is

1350
01:40:10,039 --> 01:40:16,760
the bramman eating his avocado and celery. He has equal

1351
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:20,600
compassion for both, and he wants the evolution of both.

1352
01:40:21,319 --> 01:40:24,880
He tries to refine the mindset by giving these people

1353
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:29,960
a chance. It says a long evolutionary process. It's a

1354
01:40:30,000 --> 01:40:35,840
long evolutionary process of eons of billions of years. So

1355
01:40:36,079 --> 01:40:40,680
what do you want to ask me that? Of this thing?

1356
01:40:42,039 --> 01:40:44,000
What do you want to ask me? There? Is one

1357
01:40:44,039 --> 01:40:48,039
atom in the body of barbi Gee, and that atom

1358
01:40:48,319 --> 01:40:52,960
is being taught Korea yog. So the Barbije in his finale,

1359
01:40:52,960 --> 01:40:54,680
as you told me, I should go ahead with my

1360
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,159
view of Barbigee. So I'm going. Then I'll tell you

1361
01:40:57,159 --> 01:41:01,359
about the the littler barbageo comedy. It's himself to the

1362
01:41:01,359 --> 01:41:05,119
limited understanding of man. Then I will tell you about him.

1363
01:41:05,279 --> 01:41:12,960
But now he is called the silent watcher. He is

1364
01:41:13,159 --> 01:41:18,760
the divine light by which we are practicing Krea yog.

1365
01:41:20,279 --> 01:41:23,479
You are reading the Holy Bible. The other one is

1366
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:27,920
reading the bagwad Ghita. He is the divine light by

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01:41:28,000 --> 01:41:32,560
which the forger is forging a document to cheat people

1368
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:37,640
of millions of dollars. The watcher is still watching. He

1369
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:42,039
is the one in broad daylight a person can see

1370
01:41:42,359 --> 01:41:45,960
who is shooting his accurate enemy and killing them in

1371
01:41:46,039 --> 01:41:50,000
battle according to their own law of karma. Barbaje is

1372
01:41:50,039 --> 01:41:53,439
watching the law of karma which he created also, and

1373
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:56,079
he is also the watching the killer and the two

1374
01:41:56,079 --> 01:41:58,720
be killed, And the killer and the two be killed

1375
01:41:59,119 --> 01:42:03,720
will each get their reward and punishment. As for Newton's

1376
01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:08,199
third law of motion, or I should say Bascarachari's third

1377
01:42:08,279 --> 01:42:10,960
law of motion that each action has an equal and

1378
01:42:11,039 --> 01:42:14,439
opposite reaction. So he gives them a little more discrimination

1379
01:42:14,920 --> 01:42:18,159
so that they should think before they act. So this

1380
01:42:18,359 --> 01:42:22,359
vast being is so vast, and your question is so

1381
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:25,800
little that I am at a loss as to what

1382
01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:29,439
I should answer, because you're asking me from my state

1383
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:33,319
of who I think Barbagie is. I cannot answer that

1384
01:42:33,359 --> 01:42:39,239
little question. Which crea Yogan Christian science, and which Islam

1385
01:42:39,520 --> 01:42:43,880
and which Hinduism? For me, as long as I am existing,

1386
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:48,279
my breath is running through the breath of humanity. But

1387
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:52,439
and the light is there. They're forging their documents, they're praying,

1388
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:59,159
they're doing this thing, they're acting, creating murders, they're being pure,

1389
01:42:59,279 --> 01:43:03,319
they're having said, they're having wine, they're having women because

1390
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:09,239
my awareness is there in them. They're having laughter, and

1391
01:43:09,279 --> 01:43:12,640
then they're having sermons and soda the day after. But

1392
01:43:13,199 --> 01:43:17,039
I am watching. I am unchanged, for I am the

1393
01:43:17,119 --> 01:43:23,439
silent watcher, because of whom everything goes on. But for example,

1394
01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:27,439
if I put off the light, neither will the forger

1395
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:30,520
of the documents be able to forge hiss documents. Neither

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will you be able to read the Bible. Neither will

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I be able to read the bagw Ghita, and with

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the inner light of this awareness, neither would I be

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able to evolve. So he is about the alchemy of

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total transformation. There is no good nor bad for him.

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All that is is he has created the circadian rhythms

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of nature. When winter has its snow snow flakes. He

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does not compete with the snowflakes and the different designs.

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He does not need to because he is the very

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common snow that is behind all the different snowflakes. So

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he is not differentiated. He is undifferentiated. He is homogeneous.

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And for him, behind the fragmented in Barbajee's vision, behind

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the fragmented spacetime events of this world, lies his omnipresence

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of reality.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you a question you mentioned earlier? This

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is off the topic of Babajee because we've gone to speak.

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Speaker 2: We can't. We've gone too far.

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Speaker 1: This is too much for one episode. As you said,

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ten volumes, we have to keep talking about Babaji.

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Speaker 3: No, I will come down. I will come down.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned before that in the West that they were

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taking a lot of the feminine aspects out of these stories.

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These religions, these spirituality. I've noticed that the feminine energy

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seems to be growing now, it seems to be coming

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up more because we've been so male dominated. The masculine

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energy has been so dominating for thousands and thousands of years,

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where now the female energy is starting to come up

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to balance it a little bit more. Do you agree

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that the feminine energy is starting to make itself known

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a little bit more because it is such a love.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I would love to agree. And I always champion

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the women's cause. Yes, because it makes my heart literally

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like bleed.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: And I went wells up with tears for the woman

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the way they are treated in Afghanistan. Yes, And I

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wouldn't even like to speak the truth, my limited truth

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about how women themselves are made as the receiving end

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and man himself is made as the transmitting end. It's

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okay if the woman is with you for the act

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of creation. The man puts his seed in the woman

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and she receives the seed, so she's more passive, and

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that passivity has a beauty to it. And man is

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aggressive and progressive, progressive, he has more of the rajiogun.

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He transmits his seed into the zygot into her the

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ojo varia enogious, that is the sperm and the over

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So does the sperm penetrate the over or they over

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penetrate the sperm.

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Speaker 2: I think it's the first one.

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Speaker 3: Then they must all pray. You see. But this does

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not mean that man should exploit his positive nature to

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outer actions in the world. I detest and I think

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it's a great fallacy on man's behavior to bully the mother.

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These idiotic men who do this, they don't realize that

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they are born from the womb of the mother, You idiots.

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I'm addressing that part of society and the Afghanic Taliban.

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If it wasn't for her, he would never be where

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you are. And yet you are treating her that worse

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than chattel and cattle. This is a very very disgraceful thing.

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And the scar of humanity is not only on the Taliban,

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but since we are human beings with them, we also

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carry this scar of bulling them and doing this nonsense.

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That's why it is going to be a very difficult task,

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because the very nature of women is passive. I'm speaking

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because I have to speak. You have put me on

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a very difficult subject. I don't want to didn't want

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01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,920
to speak this, but I cannot tell you a lie. Yes,

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the woman will will rise, and you know, I'm sorry.

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It's a very sensitive subject. And if you see in

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the case of the the hyena, the hyena, the woman,

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01:48:47,119 --> 01:48:49,720
the hya species is risen and the man is just

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a servant to the side. She throws them aside. She

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takes the first thing. She's even grown a false organs false.

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But they cannot operate it. They cannot get the seed

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for the seat. They have to go to the male liner.

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That is how God has made it. But I am

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championing the cause of woman that I pray to the

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Good Lord to give these certain sections of society, like

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the Taliban or certain sections of soda society, which are

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treating the woman as secondary, should give them equal respect.

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Honor the womanhood, for she is the mother, she is

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the divine one. I've written my poem p Another. You

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should read it. It's one of the best poems that

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I've written, championing the cause of womanhood, the motherhood of humanity.

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You know, where she gives her life, her own son

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and saves the prince's life. That I've made a poem

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on that, but sad to say that, when will this happen?

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Because I'm praying. First, let us start from the worst

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places like in Iran. This a lot went off, a

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lot of young ladies died, their freedom restricted by that.

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I don't mean that women should be encouraged to dance naked,

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01:49:59,079 --> 01:50:01,399
of course, in the street, but I give them their

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rights of driving, education, standing shoulder to shoulder with man,

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working with him, helping him. Why not. So they are rising.

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But did you see man's ego is very subtle somehow

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or the other. He is going to go to the

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side and try to trumplem.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back after a word from our sponsor,

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and now back to the show.

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Speaker 3: And that's why women are becoming very cautial. If the

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women ruled a lot, and they were a lot a

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woman in more of the administration, there'd be a lot

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more peace and good sense instead of the rash aggression

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of man. I'm not disgracing man, but many a time

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man is misused and abused his power over them just a.

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Speaker 2: Little, a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, this is this is a sad thing.

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It is this is and I'm always praying night and

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day that, Oh Good Lord, give women the show, for

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she is the inspiration and the shakti of man also,

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and why, o man, are you mistreating her? This is

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a great dichotomy. It's a great this thing which and

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some women I saw in Italy or some places, unless

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the husband dominates them, they're not happy. They want them

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to dominate them. Sure, so this is a question we

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01:51:25,359 --> 01:51:29,680
cannot discuss here. It's a personal thing. I personally pray

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for the welfare and my meditation and say, good Lord,

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give them freedom from this tyranny of misguided.

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Speaker 1: Men now grown up. Before we finish off, can you

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01:51:44,600 --> 01:51:48,520
give a blessing to everybody watching and who's going to

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01:51:48,560 --> 01:51:50,840
be watching this in the future before we leave.

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Speaker 3: I can give them a blessing by silently meditating. And

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I don't have any I have one prayer, yes, but

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I can give them may by just sitting silence for

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five minutes. That's the blessing.

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Speaker 1: Now, that would be fantastic, but that wouldn't be very.

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Speaker 2: Good visual supports.

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Speaker 3: No, there is.

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01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,000
Speaker 1: There anything you could say a little prayer though, something

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01:52:17,039 --> 01:52:19,319
that's going to give them before we leave.

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Speaker 3: I will tell you to prayers, and one is a

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simple one. My sister once asked me what prayer shall

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01:52:33,399 --> 01:52:38,239
I give? Because in my school there are many children

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01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:46,359
of various denominations, their Christians, their Hindus, their Muslims. So

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01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:52,079
I said that the best prayer I can give you

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01:52:52,159 --> 01:53:00,239
is the eleventh Commandment, and make the children for hold

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01:53:00,279 --> 01:53:16,399
their hands. Oh Lord, give us to realize that humanity

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01:53:17,680 --> 01:53:27,079
is our uniting religion. Breath, our uniting prayer, and consciousness

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01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:33,800
are uniting God, because this is who we actually are.

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01:53:36,159 --> 01:53:39,399
And the other breath prayer I give key that is

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01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:43,399
as sounds with prayer. He Lord, may they be goodwill

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01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:46,680
and peace to all mankind on earth. May nobody ever

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01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:50,520
be sad, May always everybody ever be in a state

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01:53:50,560 --> 01:54:03,079
of tranquil peace and bliss. Oh survey Sukina Santu survey,

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01:54:03,239 --> 01:54:12,760
Santu Nirama own survey Badrani Persian to Marcus du kabab baw.

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01:54:14,640 --> 01:54:26,840
Speaker 4: Oh, may they be peace on earth and goodwill to

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01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:27,680
all mankind.

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01:54:28,439 --> 01:54:35,800
Speaker 3: Dear souls. I know that for what I'm teaching, I'm

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01:54:35,800 --> 01:54:43,399
giving my state of Samadi to an unprepared audience. But

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01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:48,640
those who are in tune with me will receive a

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01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,760
thought free state of tranquil awareness.

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01:54:53,199 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 5: Oh oh, oh, oh.

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Speaker 2: Thank you my friend. That was beautiful.

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Speaker 1: Again, Thank you so much for being here, and I

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01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:38,520
do look forward to our next conversation. Blessings, my friend,

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01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:43,239
thank you, thank you for spending this sacred time with

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us today. If you feel called to explore this conversation further,

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