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<v Speaker 1>You see something's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>What what's gonna happen?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll take what.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome, Welcome everybody, and uh happy to have you. I

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<v Speaker 1>got my co host Nick with me and a special

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<v Speaker 1>guest Manchion Rollers. Welcome everybody and tell them where they

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<v Speaker 1>can find you. Tell them what you're working on, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we'll go to your mansine.

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<v Speaker 2>What is going on? Everybody? Yes? What am I working on?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>Where you can find us? To the Occult Rejects, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the number one occult podcast in ESO terrorism. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>back to number one in the occult next year. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>See Cole Rejects on Bitch You Rumble YouTube and all

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<v Speaker 2>Asia podcasts and stuff that I'm working on. I got

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<v Speaker 2>how colors affect this Part one and two will be premiering.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm also covering how herbs affect on crinial nerves, and

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<v Speaker 2>I am halfway through working on Johannes Kepler, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think after that I'll be moving on to Plato, so

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<v Speaker 2>look forward to that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed, indeed, well, welcome back, Manchine. We talk about mounds

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<v Speaker 1>all the time with you, and you said that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be going back out there and doing a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of mound discoveries.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm I'm gonna go found a few places I

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<v Speaker 3>want to check out. I've found online are I started

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<v Speaker 3>getting using grock to compare it to known mound sites

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<v Speaker 3>and let me know, and then it actually sometimes says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>this ain't a mount. So once pretty large and it's

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<v Speaker 3>by the Lusa Atchie River, and I have permission to

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<v Speaker 3>get on that property. So I'm planning to go there

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<v Speaker 3>as soon as deer season ends, which is Sunday, all right, So.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be getting more mound stuff, which is

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<v Speaker 1>great as we get into spring. I want all of

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<v Speaker 1>my followers to go out there and at least visit

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<v Speaker 1>one mound, have a transformative experience. Go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>just have a picnic, do something, you know, have fun outside,

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<v Speaker 1>go to a mount, see if anything happens.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want to try to hit up Prometheus and

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<v Speaker 2>actually hit a few mounds with him this summer spring. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't care if I got to go

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<v Speaker 2>close to him to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't give a shit, right right, you got the drones.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, between me and him, we actually have

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<v Speaker 2>a fuck ton of decent recording equipment. For real. We

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<v Speaker 2>could do probably some real good work together.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, drums would be very handy and mound searching in

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<v Speaker 3>some of these areas for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it was weird when I was with Shami.

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<v Speaker 2>You know you met him at a yeah, Jason, Yeah, Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>When I went down to that Morse Preserved place that

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<v Speaker 2>he took me to, that was the fucking shit. There

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<v Speaker 2>was weird as hell. There was a bunch of mounds,

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<v Speaker 2>but like they were, they were repurposing a golf course,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to go record them with the drone. Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the craziest shit. I even showed him on

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<v Speaker 2>the fucking screen. It was bugging me out normally, like

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<v Speaker 2>if I have a problem with the drone, like if

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<v Speaker 2>it's going too far, we'll start to tell you like

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<v Speaker 2>fucked up signal, you know it's going too far. Whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>And like I was flying across the water to get

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<v Speaker 2>to the golf course next door. And I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>can almost go a mile with these fucking things too,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on like you know, how high up and what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on. And it really wasn't that far. As soon

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<v Speaker 2>as I got close to the golf course, all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, it would just stop. I have my finger

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<v Speaker 2>pressed on the thing to keep going forward, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not going anywhere. And then I back up, backs up, fine,

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<v Speaker 2>goes to the sides, okay, But as soon as I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go forward, it's like it was like there

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<v Speaker 2>was an invisible fucking net or something. Dude, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was showing him. I was like, yo, I can't even

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<v Speaker 2>go over the fucking golf course. It won't even the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking thing won't even move. It was really weird because

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<v Speaker 2>nobody they'll even tell you, Like when I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>it over that place in Florida. Fuck, I forgot that

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<v Speaker 2>Coral Castle. There was a couple of times, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if there was like something else over there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was theirs, but I had like

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<v Speaker 2>something where it would like tell you that there's like

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<v Speaker 2>some kind of interference possibly with the signal, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're trying to block it so you can't fly

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<v Speaker 2>a drone over. It wasn't even getting that with the

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<v Speaker 2>golf course. It just was like some like fucking invisible barrier.

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<v Speaker 2>It was the weirdest shit I've ever seen with my drone.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh this is interesting. I wanted to get drones on

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<v Speaker 2>film and I wouldn't allow me. I mean, I wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to get mounds on film, and it went on me.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. So, geo fencing is the act of taking your

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<v Speaker 1>property on the GPS filters that they use and all

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<v Speaker 1>of these different drones and everything else, and then making

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<v Speaker 1>that a program so that people who enter or exit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, their their cell phones get tracked and all

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of that stuff. So basically, you're writing programs

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<v Speaker 1>on the GPS overlay so that people can't do certain

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<v Speaker 1>things in those areas if they're hooked up to the Internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is kind of scary because what they had was

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<v Speaker 1>after October seventh is they started geo fencing all of

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<v Speaker 1>these evangelical churches and sending targeted ads specifically to people

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<v Speaker 1>who are coming out of church or going into church,

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<v Speaker 1>with pro Israel ads on Facebook and Twitter and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're using this stuff with advertising right now, so

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't be too hard for them to expand into

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<v Speaker 1>manipulating drones and all the rest of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I don't doubt that.

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<v Speaker 3>But also there could be a plasma moment to it,

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<v Speaker 3>you know those sorts of energy fields too. I know

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<v Speaker 3>this excavated mound site I found. I'm pretty sure that's

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<v Speaker 3>what it is. There was a guy in the area

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<v Speaker 3>who was doing that. But in this area there's almost

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<v Speaker 3>no trees because they've all been struck by lightning. There's

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<v Speaker 3>tons of lightning struck wood laying on the ground around

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<v Speaker 3>these things. So it could be electromagnetic too.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, there have been so many different electromagnetic phenomena documented

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<v Speaker 1>around mound sites. It's incredible. So you're talking about double one.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know who's doing it. But uh, we got

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<v Speaker 1>some symbols today in honor of Callans as they call it.

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<v Speaker 1>I brought up good old Jude.

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<v Speaker 2>What was the odds of us? WHOA that is fucking weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, Well, it is Callens. It's New Year's Day.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I just think it's wild. How like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you picked a two face god and I picked a

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<v Speaker 2>three face? Got it? We never really, not all the

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<v Speaker 2>time did we tell each other we're recovering.

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<v Speaker 1>No. I figured this was obvious because he is the

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<v Speaker 1>god of January first, like this is his day. So

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<v Speaker 1>for me it was an obvious stress. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why you picked the three face Jesus just a preview.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me show show the people here, that's Janice and

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<v Speaker 1>this is three face Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Triaci Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>Got there's a definite connection there. So yet, Janis is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most interesting of the Roman gods. He

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get a lot of play in the mainstream, but

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<v Speaker 1>you could see it's kind of like a young man

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<v Speaker 1>and an old man. Or in some cases you've got

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<v Speaker 1>this uh Zeus, zeusimone right, this mixture of Zeus in

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<v Speaker 1>al mon Rah as the other face right. But sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>they're identical, sometimes they're different. The idea of Janis is

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<v Speaker 1>that he is the keeper of doorways, the liminal space,

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<v Speaker 1>moving from one space to the other. He's sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like the thing that exists between the thing itself, and

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<v Speaker 1>so there are so many different depictions of Janus it's unreal.

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<v Speaker 1>But it seems like a lot of people just sort

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<v Speaker 1>of take it as a given. Nowadays, I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a financial institution that uses this as their logo.

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<v Speaker 1>But other than that, people just seem to have forgotten

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<v Speaker 1>about Janus. But this was when it came to war

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<v Speaker 1>and peace. For Rome, the temple of Janus was supreme.

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<v Speaker 1>So as long as the doors of the Janis temple

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<v Speaker 1>were closed, Rome was at war, and there was only

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<v Speaker 1>a very short time period that the doors were wide

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<v Speaker 1>open when they were in peace. So Janis was very

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<v Speaker 1>much seen as the god of the symbols.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you're talking about symbols representing the liminal space

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<v Speaker 1>going from one state to the other, usually you associate

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<v Speaker 1>that with some sort of a symbol, something that was

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<v Speaker 1>going on around you at the time that would be

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<v Speaker 1>more of a Janus type energy. So the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>symbols themselves, I think come through this Janus entity pretty well.

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<v Speaker 1>So a symbol comes from the Greek word symbolos, which

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<v Speaker 1>means this a piece of pottery, right, And this is

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<v Speaker 1>how they would do their piece treaties, is they would

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<v Speaker 1>break a pot and that all people who signed on

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<v Speaker 1>to the treaty would have a piece of that pot,

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<v Speaker 1>so that if they ever needed to they could fit

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<v Speaker 1>it back together again. And that's where we get the

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<v Speaker 1>term symbol from from symbolos these pieces of shards of pottery.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you think about it, these are the two

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<v Speaker 1>symbols coming together in the liminal space between them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's sort of a Janey idea. And also there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many symbols associated with Janus it's just incredible. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look up his total list of like all of

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<v Speaker 1>his associations, it's it's a lot, like we're talking forty

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<v Speaker 1>or fifty pages of just symbols that represent Janis. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all the limals space.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, I know he shows up online two and

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen in seven seven seven, right, yeah, right, I'll put

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<v Speaker 2>that back up if you don't mind, know yours your thing?

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<v Speaker 2>I want to I want to talk on it. Put

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<v Speaker 2>on the one with the horn please. One thing I

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<v Speaker 2>did want to add before you pull it up. Janice.

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<v Speaker 2>Also Janitor comes from that, and what is he? He's

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<v Speaker 2>got the keys to all the fucking doors in the

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<v Speaker 2>bill place. Janice also comes from a Yankees Yankees I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sorry Yankees, New York Yankees. I don't remember exactly the

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<v Speaker 2>words anymore, but yank And then chaos is Kate kas

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<v Speaker 2>like k A y e s. Basically Yankees the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Yankees is two different ways of saying Janie put together,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the weirdest thing. So basically Janice really is

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Yankees. Yeah, yeah, I think it's even

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<v Speaker 2>like Danish or something. It was just like kas, which

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<v Speaker 2>goes back to even like the Keys whatever or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that. And then, uh, I forgot the first word.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know it sounds a little silly, but if

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<v Speaker 2>you look in to it, Yankees is actually two different

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<v Speaker 2>words of Janus put together. Now the go ahead, there

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<v Speaker 2>was a with Latin.

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<v Speaker 1>There after they got away from the Latin, all of

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<v Speaker 1>the j's shifted to I I to J shift happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this J to I shift changes the Janus

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<v Speaker 2>And then with the horn, I just wanted to mention

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<v Speaker 2>Amon's horn. Now you also call the hippocampus is also

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<v Speaker 2>plenty of other things, but I do question when they

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<v Speaker 2>the Amon's horn, instead of like every other cellular structure

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<v Speaker 2>some fucking handstarting to say some dumb shit too to

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<v Speaker 2>to me and like he almost finished my sentence when

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<v Speaker 2>here in a few minutes, and no life. A few

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<v Speaker 2>But once I started like running my mouth and saying

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yo, to that just work, Like what

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<v Speaker 2>the border, to go into Canada, to go to the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking outlets to get some socks and underwear. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>was literally just saying, I want to say I went

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<v Speaker 2>to Canada because I was in Detroit. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 2>never been there before, had no idea that my felony

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<v Speaker 2>that was the issue why my car was, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>being harassed. But uh fuck, where was I going with

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<v Speaker 2>this shit? Sorry?

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, you could see the horn perfectly sort of

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<v Speaker 1>shaped in that kind of counterclockwise rotation around the ear

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<v Speaker 1>sort of right, so the eyes would be out front here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me see right here, this is where the eyes are,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this would be sort of like a horn

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<v Speaker 1>coming that way. We go back to this other Janus one.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, this is going in the opposite direction. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's interesting. It does have a similarity. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, what I was saying, I had so much

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<v Speaker 2>shit in my call that I even had my oto

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<v Speaker 2>paperwork in there, and like when I went in my car,

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<v Speaker 2>like that shit wasn't in, like it was visibly actually

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<v Speaker 2>out on my back seat. So I was like, some

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<v Speaker 2>of these motherfuckers have to have looked at this and

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<v Speaker 2>realized it was in something. Yeah, they're probably like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this is why this guy's really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, there is something too. I know this is Mason

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<v Speaker 1>in distress. So if you go like this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>like the ch ball from Chigum, that's the Mason in

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<v Speaker 1>distress hand signal. But it would help if you bought

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<v Speaker 1>like a free Masodic ring from like an estate sale.

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<v Speaker 3>Yo.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's commitment to try and get out of tickets?

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<v Speaker 3>Yo? You know what?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, you know what's You'd be surprised, dude. And I

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<v Speaker 2>noticed this when me and this long time ago and

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<v Speaker 2>me and lux recovering, like the Gesters and the Shriners

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<v Speaker 2>and Quatsu cootal. If you go on eBay, you'd be

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<v Speaker 2>surprised how much like shit did? You'd be like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>I could someone selling their pin, someone selling their ring,

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<v Speaker 2>someone selling that their lodge like fucking pin, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>or even things that goes on the cause dude, you

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<v Speaker 2>can buy yo, there's somebody on Instagram that I was

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<v Speaker 2>following because they were always doing handstag quet Sequatdal, and

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<v Speaker 2>me and Lux were like trying to follow anybody who's

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<v Speaker 2>like promoting quets aquatdal shit when we were covering Q

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<v Speaker 2>just to see if we could see any connections with anything.

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<v Speaker 2>And I came across an account that was like basically

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<v Speaker 2>selling like any like any freemasonry order in orders, like

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<v Speaker 2>fucking logo, like like you know, like a pain. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, so I don't even have to be

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<v Speaker 2>in this shit. I just have to hit this guy

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<v Speaker 2>up on Instagram in the fucking Bible. Yeah, Like they're

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<v Speaker 2>probably not real, you know, they're probably premaking them, But

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<v Speaker 2>what difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Does it make if you fool somebody? It's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>worked right, and a lot of that stuff like it's

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<v Speaker 1>so marked up because they know how valuable it is

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<v Speaker 1>to get people's hands on. So you gotta go to

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<v Speaker 1>the estate sales themselves and not the pawn shops or

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<v Speaker 1>the used places because they're gonna jack up the prices.

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<v Speaker 1>Mentally they know how much it's worth, but the people

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<v Speaker 1>selling them at a state sales, they have absolutely no

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<v Speaker 1>idea how much this stuff is worth, so they sell

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<v Speaker 1>it for like ten bucks, little insignias and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, I'm gonna go with the stew of Matt's idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Next time I try to go over the border, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just gonna wear a Jedi robe and makeup. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>dress up as Darth Mole and see if I can

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<v Speaker 2>get over the border. There you go. Yeah, just talk

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<v Speaker 2>about talk about hockey, talk about hockey poutine and say

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry two hundred million fucking times, and they'll be like,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, you.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll do it, all right, So let's talk about try face.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was sitting here taking a taking a drink

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<v Speaker 2>and totally forgot it was my turn to go alright,

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<v Speaker 2>my notes here, we are, okay. The trifacial trinity, also

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<v Speaker 2>called the three face trinity, is a Western Christian image

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<v Speaker 2>type that depicts the Holy Trinity as a single head

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<v Speaker 2>with three faces, usually one face forward, with two profiles

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<v Speaker 2>sharing the same skull like you can see here. It's

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<v Speaker 2>related to, though distinct from, the tricephalis trinity one body

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<v Speaker 2>with three heads. Both were attempted to solve a brutal

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<v Speaker 2>problem for artists how to picture one God in three

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<v Speaker 2>persons without sliding into heresy and like kind of why

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<v Speaker 2>does the image even exist? Because there is ideas in

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<v Speaker 2>Christian theology that God is one and then somehow God

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<v Speaker 2>is also three the faultless on Holy Spirit or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So most Trinity art normally tries to keep the threeness visible,

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<v Speaker 2>like three figures, the three visitors to Abraham or Father's

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<v Speaker 2>Son in dove or Holy Spirit, or like geometric geometric

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<v Speaker 2>diagrams like the shield of the Trinsity of the Trinity,

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<v Speaker 2>but the trifacial this one pretty much it does actually

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite. It makes oneness overwhelmingly visible because it's one

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<v Speaker 2>head expressing three. By the three faces emerging from that unity,

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<v Speaker 2>you understand what I'm saying, Like somehow you can have

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<v Speaker 2>like the dove as a symbol for the Holy Spirit,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have like the Father and the Son,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's something you have all these different things, everything's

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<v Speaker 2>all compressed into one so that people trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>an understanding of what I'm saying. And that was like

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<v Speaker 2>kind of one of the reasons why it became dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>later on, you know, dangerous, you know, supposedly medieval roots

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<v Speaker 2>and early sightings. Scholars track this to the High Middle Ages,

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<v Speaker 2>with examples turning up in sculpture and manuscripts. A Spanish

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<v Speaker 2>Romanesque example often sited in the twelfth century carving in

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<v Speaker 2>Nevara showing a vultus trifons type motif, and in twelve

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<v Speaker 2>seventy there's an English manuscript the Cambridge Bible includes an

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<v Speaker 2>image as Abraham hosting a three faced trinity. Then it

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<v Speaker 2>also pops back up in the fifteenth and sixteenth centuries.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll see images theology for the eyes, and churches and

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<v Speaker 2>books you'll have like devotional pedagogy Renaissance. You'll start seeing

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<v Speaker 2>it showing up in some Renaissance art. What it meant

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<v Speaker 2>to them, kind of a unity of substance, one head, body,

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<v Speaker 2>one God, tiplicity of persons, three faces for the son

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<v Speaker 2>and spirit, you know, multiple gaze as God sees all

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<v Speaker 2>a single emblem to hold the paradox in the mind.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I actually be totally honest with you. I

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<v Speaker 2>came across this and on Instagram and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the I was like, Yo, this is weird, this

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<v Speaker 2>would be great. So now now to get to eventually

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<v Speaker 2>I think it kind of got banned. In sixteen twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 2>it was merely disapproved. It became an object of active suppression.

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<v Speaker 2>Archival scholarship notes that the Urban Urban eight intervened and

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<v Speaker 2>ordered examples to destroyed, to to be destroyed or burned

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<v Speaker 2>when specimens were discovered, and then yeah, I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm not exactly show why. Like again, they seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to say that because of showing it in one instead

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<v Speaker 2>of showing it in three separate ways. And then again

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<v Speaker 2>in the eighteenth century, Benedict in seventeen forty five, Benedict

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<v Speaker 2>the fourteenth I think issued, you know, issued to have

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff. It was controversy. It was no good. Oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>he actually went against it and said it was okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, but it was banned at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I think what they were trying to do is

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to keep people from meditating on stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like this. So a lot of what these icons were

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<v Speaker 1>to people was something to worship in front of, and

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<v Speaker 1>in doing so, they would sort of have a gnostic

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<v Speaker 1>experience in front of the icons, right, And so as

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<v Speaker 1>they're having that experience, they want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, theologically correct with their with their visions,

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<v Speaker 1>which a three faced Jesus is not doing that for them,

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<v Speaker 1>So they probably banned it for that reason.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but that's the shield of Jesus, right, so

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<v Speaker 1>father son, holy Spirit. They try to pick that with

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<v Speaker 1>the Latin phrases S non s and it all comes

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<v Speaker 1>together in the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. So, oh, one thing too, just I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>mention too. When they kind of like banned it for

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<v Speaker 2>a while, they were even like sometimes like painting or

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<v Speaker 2>putting other things over the other faces, like hitting a

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<v Speaker 2>halo in there, like trying to paint over the other

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<v Speaker 2>faces instead of taking it down, so they even did

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<v Speaker 2>like try to cover it up.

420
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<v Speaker 1>That makes it even more mystical.

421
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, but in the rural areas, I'm sorry I

422
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<v Speaker 2>leave this out too, some of the remote churches, I

423
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<v Speaker 2>kind of like, you know, out they kept their shits

424
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<v Speaker 2>longer until they actually we're told like to.

425
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<v Speaker 1>Take it down, right, no reason to change it. So

426
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<v Speaker 1>if you look underneath the triangle there's it looks like

427
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<v Speaker 1>an orphic egg. Is that an orphic egg?

428
00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:44.359
<v Speaker 2>Let me see? Yeah? Uh almost, let's see, where have

429
00:22:44.440 --> 00:22:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I seen that before?

430
00:22:45.759 --> 00:22:49.519
<v Speaker 1>That's the globe mis Chritsinger, only with the crowns actually

431
00:22:49.640 --> 00:22:53.880
<v Speaker 1>on the globe, I think, And so it's deformed, but

432
00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:57.359
<v Speaker 1>it looks like an egg, looks like an egg of deed.

433
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<v Speaker 1>But there's the scepter and then I guess that would

434
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<v Speaker 1>be kind of like the globist cruisinger, like the King

435
00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:05.440
<v Speaker 1>of the World. It's the cross on top of the circle.

436
00:23:05.759 --> 00:23:08.200
<v Speaker 1>They sometimes have that, and they're holding a scepter and

437
00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:10.920
<v Speaker 1>they've got a little circle with the cross on top.

438
00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Kind of looks like what they got going on there.

439
00:23:15.240 --> 00:23:17.960
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. There's a definite paging motif right there. If

440
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<v Speaker 1>that's the orphic egg, which would be.

441
00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And the reasons it was banned it was they

442
00:23:24.839 --> 00:23:28.279
<v Speaker 2>also thought like because it was because of the three faces. Again,

443
00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:32.200
<v Speaker 2>like they people wouldn't understand what it actually was saying

444
00:23:32.200 --> 00:23:34.279
<v Speaker 2>because it was different. So that was one of the

445
00:23:34.319 --> 00:23:37.559
<v Speaker 2>reasons why they did. And they also considered it like

446
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<v Speaker 2>a monstrous or in a proper form for the divine

447
00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:43.920
<v Speaker 2>and almost linked it to like demonic.

448
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<v Speaker 1>Well do you know how they describe Jesus and revelations.

449
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<v Speaker 2>I'm laughing. It just makes me think about people nowadays. Oh,

450
00:23:54.680 --> 00:23:57.480
<v Speaker 2>it's fucking demonic. You just don't understand the art.

451
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<v Speaker 3>Guy.

452
00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:03.279
<v Speaker 2>No, well, we'll go ahead, go ahead, what are you

453
00:24:03.319 --> 00:24:03.720
<v Speaker 2>going to say?

454
00:24:05.559 --> 00:24:09.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm pulling it up now. So he's depicted as a

455
00:24:09.160 --> 00:24:15.440
<v Speaker 1>goat with these seven eyes and like five horns. This

456
00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:18.200
<v Speaker 1>is how they describe him in the Book of Revelations.

457
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<v Speaker 1>So let me pull that up. This is, uh, you know,

458
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<v Speaker 1>biblically accurate right here. I don't know why they would

459
00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:29.880
<v Speaker 1>be freaked out by the Jesus with the three heads

460
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<v Speaker 1>when this is what is described as Jesus in the

461
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<v Speaker 1>Book of Revelations.

462
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<v Speaker 2>So damn, I don't know.

463
00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:39.519
<v Speaker 1>This one seems a little bit more creepy.

464
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<v Speaker 2>He's got seven eyes to Jesus, Jesus.

465
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<v Speaker 1>Exactly that It makes you say, Jesus, that's why he has.

466
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:55.599
<v Speaker 2>To Somebody saw that, like Jesus the exactly like you'll

467
00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:56.519
<v Speaker 2>slip the motherfuckers.

468
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<v Speaker 1>I'd be terrified too. I mean you, I've got to

469
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<v Speaker 1>remind people.

470
00:25:01.759 --> 00:25:04.680
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, my life, why why this thing didn't see me?

471
00:25:04.720 --> 00:25:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I just gotta walk away, right, I hope.

472
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<v Speaker 1>You didn't see that? All right, Well, Manchine, let's get

473
00:25:12.599 --> 00:25:15.960
<v Speaker 1>to you. How are you. Let's talk about some of

474
00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>the site.

475
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<v Speaker 3>Teachers Okay, are you gonna pull up pictures or no.

476
00:25:23.279 --> 00:25:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Sure you it matter. Let me let me look you

477
00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:31.039
<v Speaker 1>up on Twitter here and then pull up your photos.

478
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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna get a lot of rock and roll. Well,

479
00:25:39.759 --> 00:25:43.440
<v Speaker 3>just this week I went to the mounds in downtown Memphis.

480
00:25:44.279 --> 00:25:47.200
<v Speaker 3>I've been to those before, Bisbelle a long time. It

481
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:53.119
<v Speaker 3>was a little extraordinary. They're pretty large. One of the

482
00:25:53.240 --> 00:25:56.480
<v Speaker 3>mounds I believe during the Civil War they put cannons

483
00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:02.799
<v Speaker 3>on top of to defend the Mississippi River. That mound there,

484
00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:06.559
<v Speaker 3>it looks a lot smaller than it actually is. I

485
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:08.759
<v Speaker 3>would say it's probably about three stories high.

486
00:26:10.839 --> 00:26:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Nice.

487
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:17.960
<v Speaker 3>It's it's pretty nice. And I believe yeah, that's the

488
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:24.880
<v Speaker 3>same one from a different angle. And doctor this is

489
00:26:25.079 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 3>that one is a platform mound that's a little behind it.

490
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:30.200
<v Speaker 1>It's large too.

491
00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:34.759
<v Speaker 3>Trying to think of what you could say it was.

492
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:38.839
<v Speaker 3>Doctor greg Little posted a picture of these mounds all

493
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<v Speaker 3>the time. I think I heard him say they were

494
00:26:42.799 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 3>some of his favorites. But there's a plaque kind of

495
00:26:49.480 --> 00:26:53.680
<v Speaker 3>telling that when this area was discovered there were Native

496
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Americans nearby. But these mounds are much more ancient.

497
00:27:00.720 --> 00:27:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Than than that, right, So how close to the river

498
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:07.160
<v Speaker 1>was this mound complex.

499
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:11.400
<v Speaker 3>Right next to it, right next to the Mississippi.

500
00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:13.599
<v Speaker 1>Very nice.

501
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:19.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's right next to the Memphis Metal Museum also,

502
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:25.440
<v Speaker 3>which I think that I know i'd emailed you about

503
00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 3>my mound experience and kind of figuring out that it

504
00:27:28.759 --> 00:27:35.000
<v Speaker 3>actually did happen after talking to my ect that I

505
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:38.559
<v Speaker 3>totally didn't remember because I was so messed up. But yeah,

506
00:27:38.599 --> 00:27:41.599
<v Speaker 3>I think that night actually started at these mounds and

507
00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:46.279
<v Speaker 3>there was a bunch of us hanging out partying, started

508
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:47.640
<v Speaker 3>going to mounds that night.

509
00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:49.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, the kind of stuff you.

510
00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.640
<v Speaker 3>Do when you're twenty one, you know, real young and

511
00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:56.440
<v Speaker 3>don't have to work the next day, so.

512
00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:00.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna have to hit up the mounds. So there

513
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:02.920
<v Speaker 1>are a bunch of them on the Mississippi. I live

514
00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>real close to the Mississippi up in Wisconsin too, and

515
00:28:05.559 --> 00:28:07.759
<v Speaker 1>there's a ton of mounds all up and down the

516
00:28:08.000 --> 00:28:12.039
<v Speaker 1>Mississippi Bluffs. So up here they have these massive cliffs

517
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.759
<v Speaker 1>that are like a mile away from the Mississippi River

518
00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.720
<v Speaker 1>on either side because apparently is just craped through just

519
00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:24.279
<v Speaker 1>by the river. Well on top of those cliffs, that's

520
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.480
<v Speaker 1>where you have the mountains that are built. So they

521
00:28:27.559 --> 00:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>actually build theirs, like right up on top of the

522
00:28:29.920 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>cliffs overlooking the Mississippi. I'll have to get some footage

523
00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:34.240
<v Speaker 1>here a couple of days.

524
00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Right, there's a mound that's a little further south of

525
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:41.960
<v Speaker 3>here too, called Chuck a Lisa, Indian village. But it's

526
00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 3>got a pretty large mound. It's strange. They've concreted around it.

527
00:28:49.240 --> 00:28:54.480
<v Speaker 3>Evidently they've excavated in stuff. And doctor greg Little talks

528
00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:57.039
<v Speaker 3>a lot about that whole experience. That's when he had

529
00:28:57.079 --> 00:28:59.200
<v Speaker 3>one of the chiefs come down and stay with them,

530
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:01.559
<v Speaker 3>you know, in protest about that.

531
00:29:09.519 --> 00:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>So have you had any more mound experiences or any

532
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:15.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of other strange activity associated with these mounds.

533
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:24.200
<v Speaker 3>It's a little hard to say. I haven't really been

534
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 3>noticing a lot of paranormal type of stuff, and I'm

535
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:30.640
<v Speaker 3>a little I think I may have been under some

536
00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 3>spiritual attack lately, but I don't know for sure if

537
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:42.119
<v Speaker 3>that's mound related or not. But as far as going

538
00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:45.400
<v Speaker 3>to them, it was really strange going to the place

539
00:29:45.480 --> 00:29:48.480
<v Speaker 3>I was telling you that had looked like had been excavated.

540
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there was a very strange energy in this place.

541
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 3>I don't really know how to put it into words.

542
00:29:56.640 --> 00:29:59.799
<v Speaker 3>It was very spooky, I'll say that much. It was

543
00:29:59.839 --> 00:30:02.400
<v Speaker 3>my different than the little mound, you know, or even

544
00:30:02.440 --> 00:30:03.640
<v Speaker 3>going to pens and mounds.

545
00:30:04.559 --> 00:30:05.640
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of a dark.

546
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:09.559
<v Speaker 3>Sort of presence. It's like the forest shifted when I

547
00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:11.920
<v Speaker 3>got to them. It was very hard to get to also,

548
00:30:13.079 --> 00:30:15.079
<v Speaker 3>but I've gone there like three times since.

549
00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:21.160
<v Speaker 1>So do you think that maybe some of these mounds

550
00:30:21.200 --> 00:30:24.680
<v Speaker 1>could have been constructed to sort of seal away a

551
00:30:24.839 --> 00:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of ancient spirit or some other sort of entity, because,

552
00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:32.160
<v Speaker 1>I mean that's a possibility too. I've seen that propose.

553
00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:39.519
<v Speaker 3>I think it's possible. These excavated mounds I've found. I've

554
00:30:39.559 --> 00:30:43.160
<v Speaker 3>sent you a picture of it, but it's like mounds

555
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:47.279
<v Speaker 3>that are kind of lined up and sort of yeah,

556
00:30:47.359 --> 00:30:53.119
<v Speaker 3>you can see that that sort of direction. And Greg

557
00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Little talks about their ceremonies they had for sending their

558
00:30:56.680 --> 00:31:00.160
<v Speaker 3>dead to the Milky Way. Well on the soul as

559
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:05.920
<v Speaker 3>I was outside, excuse me one second, that had a

560
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:11.359
<v Speaker 3>bit of a cold, But yeah, it totally looks like

561
00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:14.559
<v Speaker 3>from where those mounts were, it could line up for

562
00:31:14.680 --> 00:31:16.599
<v Speaker 3>them to shoot the spirit to the center of the

563
00:31:16.640 --> 00:31:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Milky Way galaxy, right, I mean, I was like, oh,

564
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.359
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't know exact because I wasn't walking

565
00:31:23.440 --> 00:31:28.559
<v Speaker 3>back there at night. You know, I'm just I'm not

566
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:33.920
<v Speaker 3>that brave now by myself. I mean, you've you've got

567
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:38.319
<v Speaker 3>the crypted hunters on and stuff. I'm I'm not surprised

568
00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 3>to some of that stuff's around here. I've seen a

569
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:48.799
<v Speaker 3>really strange looking dog recently that killed cats. Most disgusting

570
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:50.079
<v Speaker 3>thing I've ever seen in my life.

571
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.759
<v Speaker 1>Really, that sounds like.

572
00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:59.160
<v Speaker 3>It's like a red dog. He's like missing the side

573
00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:01.559
<v Speaker 3>of his skin, of his teeth. Weird.

574
00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>What that's interesting? Is this a common a courrection.

575
00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:12.839
<v Speaker 3>I have ring doorbell camera too, so.

576
00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:14.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm so creepy.

577
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Look you gotta get that footage, bro. Yeah, I didn't

578
00:32:18.880 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 2>even think that.

579
00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:24.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean I remember seeing that you kind of seeing

580
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:27.000
<v Speaker 3>him from behind. But I went out there one day

581
00:32:27.039 --> 00:32:29.359
<v Speaker 3>and caught him and I was like, shoot, that thing

582
00:32:29.480 --> 00:32:32.599
<v Speaker 3>looks demonic. Sorry to throw at word.

583
00:32:32.359 --> 00:32:33.599
<v Speaker 2>But kind of did.

584
00:32:35.559 --> 00:32:39.200
<v Speaker 1>No, it makes sense, but uh yeah, that's a lot

585
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:43.119
<v Speaker 1>of what a lot of what goes on on, you know,

586
00:32:44.160 --> 00:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>really honted pieces of land. It could be this reverberation

587
00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:51.839
<v Speaker 1>all throughout history. So I know that the mounds in uh,

588
00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:57.319
<v Speaker 1>Georgia associated with the Federal Reserve. Those were actually sacrificial mounds.

589
00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:01.200
<v Speaker 1>They specifically chose the soccer official mound to build on

590
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:03.680
<v Speaker 1>top of, and that was where they signed the Federal

591
00:33:03.720 --> 00:33:07.200
<v Speaker 1>Reserve Act, which is right, what else do you call it? Demonic?

592
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:13.440
<v Speaker 3>It wouldn't surprise me, and it wouldn't surprise me if

593
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:16.240
<v Speaker 3>there was a curse, because they were, you know, dug

594
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 3>up to that sort of thing. It's not very far.

595
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:25.400
<v Speaker 3>It took actually measured it on Google Earth to see

596
00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.559
<v Speaker 3>how far I walked. It's two miles like round trip

597
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:30.680
<v Speaker 3>from where I'm at.

598
00:33:30.640 --> 00:33:31.640
<v Speaker 2>So about a mile.

599
00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:36.440
<v Speaker 3>Right next side forty two.

600
00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Kind of crazy.

601
00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:42.640
<v Speaker 3>You're seeing in one of those little spots that no

602
00:33:42.720 --> 00:33:43.519
<v Speaker 3>one ever goes.

603
00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>You often find those mounds and stuff in places that

604
00:33:48.799 --> 00:33:51.640
<v Speaker 1>are just sort of like right in the middle of everything,

605
00:33:51.880 --> 00:33:55.359
<v Speaker 1>but you can't see them from the ride, like usually

606
00:33:55.400 --> 00:33:59.519
<v Speaker 1>they're covered up by trees and whatnot, but they're right there.

607
00:34:00.920 --> 00:34:01.640
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of.

608
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:04.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's one of those spots the farmers can't really

609
00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:07.599
<v Speaker 3>use because there's huge creeks up here too that are

610
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:12.320
<v Speaker 3>connected to the Lusahatchie. So you know, there you go

611
00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:15.800
<v Speaker 3>with more of that sort of thing because the natives

612
00:34:15.920 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 3>and probably the mound builders to use the rivers. And

613
00:34:20.440 --> 00:34:26.760
<v Speaker 3>I even have a theory that maybe the mound builders,

614
00:34:26.800 --> 00:34:30.480
<v Speaker 3>in their huge piles of dirt, that they were actually

615
00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:36.880
<v Speaker 3>somewhat what you call it geo engineering to make floodplains, right,

616
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:40.599
<v Speaker 3>kind of like they did in Egypt for flooding the

617
00:34:40.960 --> 00:34:42.960
<v Speaker 3>Nile very much.

618
00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they add the cataracts, all right. Absolutely. I think

619
00:34:49.880 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 1>there's so many different possibilities. It's uh. I mean, especially

620
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:55.639
<v Speaker 1>with the Mississippi being like the mirror image of the

621
00:34:55.760 --> 00:34:58.599
<v Speaker 1>Nile River in Africa. You know, it's like one living

622
00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 1>north to south and the other one moving south to north.

623
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:04.920
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy the similarities between the two. And you know

624
00:35:05.000 --> 00:35:07.079
<v Speaker 1>that's where all the mounds are, That's where the pyramids are.

625
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>You've got a massive mound complex down in Louisiana that

626
00:35:11.599 --> 00:35:20.239
<v Speaker 1>looks like pyramids. So Illinois, right, Cahokia big time?

627
00:35:20.679 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all up and down.

628
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.360
<v Speaker 3>I've even learned here as a bunch of Arkansas across

629
00:35:25.440 --> 00:35:29.800
<v Speaker 3>the river, it was like looking for mounts nearby, like

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<v Speaker 3>let's take a mountain trip because I'm totally down for that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, not like huge all across the country at

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<v Speaker 3>this time, but a couple of day trip might be fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Why not? I mean, does it really take that long?

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<v Speaker 1>You get started really early in the morning. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get out there and get all kinds of footage and

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<v Speaker 1>then be back by nightfall.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, go to Missouri.

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<v Speaker 1>Headless went full blown Joseph Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was trying to understand that. I don't get that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Joseph Smith was obsessed with the mounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's true. Yeah all right, but I thought it, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Joseph Smith is a fucking scamotest, so like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's how why he say. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>what the headless, little little one, little of the other.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mind. Yeah, but uh yeah, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>great episode. Thank you for joining us mansion. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>Nick the problem again next time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely share the show. We're gonna have more mound

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<v Speaker 1>stuff all in twenty twenty six, so check us out

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<v Speaker 1>guys later