1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: Welcome to the three Stories version of the Todd Hermer Show. 2 00:00:02,799 --> 00:00:05,799 Story number one, Ozzy Osbourne believe in God, But what 3 00:00:05,839 --> 00:00:06,679 does that really mean? 4 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 5 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,199 Speaker 1: Plus a story about Tony Iomi who came into my 6 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,679 internet radio company for an interview. Oh, he's the guitar 7 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,559 player for Ozy Osbourne's Black Sabbath. Story number two treason 8 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:22,920 should mean something? And story number three how to blaspheme 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,679 the Holy Spirit while being a pastor. We'll talk about 10 00:00:26,679 --> 00:00:30,440 this with the help of Bisible at gobisible dot com. 11 00:00:30,559 --> 00:00:33,520 Make sure you're operating on actual corporate credit, not on 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,119 your own credits. And of course, we can't do anything 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:38,439 that matters in an eternal sense without God Almighty. 14 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,039 Speaker 3: But Todd Herman Show is one hundred percent disapproved by 15 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:52,240 big pharma technocrats in tyrons everywhere from the high mountains 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,960 of Free America. Here's the Emerald City XI. 17 00:00:59,159 --> 00:01:05,879 Speaker 1: Todd, Today is the day the Lord has made, and 18 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,159 these are the times through which God has decided we 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:13,120 shall live. Tell you in a second about pretty unique 20 00:01:13,159 --> 00:01:15,719 experience we had back in the internet radio days. 21 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:16,519 Speaker 2: I didn't get to. 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,079 Speaker 1: Be there, but a guy who worked with me and 23 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,640 helped get that company started, named Kurt got to do 24 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,560 an interview with the guitar player for Black Sabbath, and 25 00:01:25,599 --> 00:01:27,760 I think one of the principal songwriters, Tony Iomi. 26 00:01:28,239 --> 00:01:29,879 Speaker 2: By the way, amazing that Aomi can. 27 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: Do what he does because he's got partial fingers on 28 00:01:33,879 --> 00:01:37,920 his fretting hands. And still, I mean established heavy metal 29 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,439 be no heavy metal without Black Sabbath. They established the 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,640 art form, if you will. So Ozzy Osborne died, and 31 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,239 he died in a I guess poetic way. It was 32 00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:51,239 a very short time after his last concert with Black Sabbath, 33 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,120 and you probably saw some of the articles. They accused 34 00:01:54,239 --> 00:01:58,079 Tonyaimi of detigating us he's role in the band and 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:03,359 having him stay seen and Ozzi probably couldn't stand. And 36 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,640 in fact, Tonyami went out and kissed Ozzy on the forehead. 37 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:10,159 So there was obviously love between these men. And they 38 00:02:10,159 --> 00:02:13,319 made each other multi multi millionaires, if that matters, and 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:18,560 probably a hundred millionaires. And still the song royalties roll on, 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:23,800 and Ozzy Ozzie did a lot to be noticed. You 41 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:25,479 know that biding the head off a bat thing at 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,879 a record company that happened. There was a lot that 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,479 happened with Black Sabbath, and there was a lot of 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,199 reasons to believe Black Sabbath was a Satanic band, and 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,080 I'll get to that with Tonyaomi here in a second 46 00:02:36,159 --> 00:02:38,560 to what we learned, at least what he told Kurt 47 00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:40,400 during this ininef I wish I could find the audio. 48 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,960 It was just you know, Dash, it was over twenty 49 00:02:43,039 --> 00:02:44,800 years ago. I guess I can see if we could 50 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,360 dig it up. So Ozzy Osbourne said he believed in God. 51 00:02:48,439 --> 00:02:50,360 And this is when I went to go search. And 52 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,360 by the way, this is a great sign. When I 53 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:58,479 went to Google to search, was Ozzy Osbourne boom saved? 54 00:02:58,800 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 2: Filled in? 55 00:02:59,479 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: A lot of people wanted to know if he was saved. 56 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,039 This is from Yahoo Entertainment. Ozzy Osborne is known as 57 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:07,520 the Prince of Darkness. But does Ozzy Osborne believe in God? 58 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:10,520 It would almost be counterintuitive to think that someone with 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,120 his dark heavy metal brand would be religious, but Osborne 60 00:03:13,159 --> 00:03:15,719 shed light on his religious beliefs in interviews leading up 61 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:18,520 to his death. Osborne died just a few days after 62 00:03:18,599 --> 00:03:21,039 its final performance with his solo band in Black Sabbath, 63 00:03:21,039 --> 00:03:23,919 which took place in July fifth dubbed Sabbath's Back to 64 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,759 the Beginning concert in Osborne's hometown of Birmingham, England. Osborne 65 00:03:27,759 --> 00:03:30,319 was seventy six years old, and truly, if you've not 66 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,479 seen the clip of him singing, Mama, I'm going I'm 67 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,360 coming home. 68 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: That's ay. The fact that at seventy six he could still. 69 00:03:37,199 --> 00:03:39,599 Speaker 1: Sing that that way, not like in the youth, but 70 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,759 that he could sing it was impressive and in a 71 00:03:43,759 --> 00:03:48,680 way his voice also took on this yeah, I'm mature character, 72 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,960 almost Dylan esque in a way and not the whining Dylan. 73 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,159 Speaker 2: Just in any case, I digress. 74 00:03:55,159 --> 00:03:58,439 Speaker 1: In an interview clip from Odyssey shared on August fourteen, 75 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,840 twenty fifteen, Osborne that's what he thought at the time 76 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:02,159 would be Black Sabbas's final tour. 77 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:03,639 Speaker 2: As well as the religious beliefs. 78 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:07,439 Speaker 1: In the interview, Ozzie said that he believed in God, 79 00:04:07,479 --> 00:04:11,280 but that doesn't mean he attended church first, bad sign. 80 00:04:11,639 --> 00:04:13,280 I believe in God, but I don't go to church 81 00:04:13,319 --> 00:04:15,199 because I don't think you have to go to church 82 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:16,319 to believe in God. 83 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Why did Jesus create the church? 84 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: Why did he say it is upon this rock I 85 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,399 build my church in the gates of Hades, will not 86 00:04:26,439 --> 00:04:33,160 stand against it. Why did the apostles create a church 87 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,959 and then become the church. The place they went and 88 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:41,439 the people they were. Jesus created the church. If you 89 00:04:41,519 --> 00:04:43,480 choose to not go to church, you're choosing to not 90 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,759 be in the body. Does that mean you're not saved? 91 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,279 I don't think so, but it means that you are 92 00:04:49,399 --> 00:04:55,560 risking the Lord not knowing you. The passage of Jesus 93 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:57,959 in the Bible when Jesus says to people who have 94 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,199 done miracles in his name, has to demons in his name, 95 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,160 and they say, Lord Lord, didn't we do miracles? Didn't 96 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,879 it cast that demons in your name? And the Lord 97 00:05:04,879 --> 00:05:06,639 looks at them and says, go away from me, evil doer. 98 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,160 I never knew you. One of the ways you get 99 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,959 to know the Lord is being active in the body 100 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,279 of Christ. The Church is the body of Christ. Continuing 101 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:19,560 the article. In an interview in Spin in nineteen eighty six, 102 00:05:19,959 --> 00:05:22,680 as shared by The Guardian, Osborne said, I'm a Christian. 103 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,439 I was Christian as a Christian. I used to go 104 00:05:24,519 --> 00:05:26,920 to Sunday School. I never took much interest in it 105 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:30,439 because I didn't Regarding the idea of heaven, he said, 106 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,399 my idea of heaven is feeling good, a place where 107 00:05:32,399 --> 00:05:34,279 people are all right to each other. The world scares 108 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:36,480 the blank out of me. We're living in a tinderbox, 109 00:05:37,759 --> 00:05:40,519 it continued, saying there's some maniacs somewhere trying to devise 110 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,160 the new means of destruction. It amazes me that mankind 111 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,639 always goes to find the biggest, powerfulest means of destruction 112 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,040 before they find anything good. It's always negative thing that 113 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,720 puts first. Osborne said that since he had children, he wondered, 114 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,360 if being is what is being left of them? What 115 00:05:55,399 --> 00:05:59,639 a future we've got for mankind? So was Ozzie saved 116 00:05:59,759 --> 00:06:05,199 because he believed in God? Absolutely not because he was 117 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,000 baptized as a child's. 118 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: I don't think so. I know there's people who believe that. 119 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,759 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ said, I'm the Way, the Truth, and the Life, 120 00:06:12,759 --> 00:06:14,240 and no one comes to the Father but through Me, 121 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,720 and the way to the Father, through the Lord Jesus 122 00:06:16,759 --> 00:06:19,399 is to accept them as your Lord and Savior, your Messiah, 123 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,800 and agree to be changed by him, and then the 124 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,720 act of a biding with him. I don't see any 125 00:06:25,879 --> 00:06:29,399 sign that Ozzie did that. Maybe it's hidden. Maybe he did. 126 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:31,560 If so, I can't wait to learn of it. So 127 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:33,519 know that this man was saved, and what to heaven 128 00:06:33,879 --> 00:06:38,160 and would heaven sing? But no, believing in God doesn't 129 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,680 get you there. And I can prove that the demons 130 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,360 believe in God and they shudder. And incidentally, demons go 131 00:06:46,399 --> 00:06:49,959 to church. You think they can't walk into a church 132 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,120 or float into a church or manifest in a church. 133 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 2: Karl Marx was baptized. Carl Marx went on. 134 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: To say he hated God that his works would stand 135 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:05,120 above God's. So I truly hope and pray that Ozzy 136 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,240 Osborne was saved. But believing that God doesn't mean you're saved, 137 00:07:08,439 --> 00:07:12,199 and particularly when you came from a band like Black Sabbath. 138 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,720 And we got to have the most fascinating look at this. 139 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,079 For all the money Black Sabbath made, was there a 140 00:07:18,279 --> 00:07:22,399 reason they made? It's not just the world shattering creation 141 00:07:22,519 --> 00:07:25,439 of heavy metal? But did they make a deal with 142 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,279 the devil? I'll talk about this in a second, because 143 00:07:28,319 --> 00:07:30,279 we had a pretty unique view of this. 144 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: Money. 145 00:07:32,519 --> 00:07:35,519 Speaker 1: The love of it is the root of all sorts 146 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,160 of evil, and the Bible tells us this, and you 147 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,600 could replace that, you know, lust and the love of lust, 148 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:42,720 and sin and the sin of sin. Or the love 149 00:07:42,759 --> 00:07:45,399 of sin. 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And one 182 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,279 of the guys who worked with us was a guy named. 183 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,879 Speaker 2: Kurt huge Black Sabbath. 184 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,279 Speaker 1: Fan, and he got to and we let him do this. 185 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:31,039 We got to have Tony Iomi come in from Black 186 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,120 Sabbath into our studios and Kurt knew more about Black 187 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,639 Sabbath than any of us. So Kurk got to do 188 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,919 this interview and I didn't get to be there, much 189 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,279 to my sugar. In order to get to be there 190 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,679 when Elvis Costello was in, I'm a huge Elvis fan. 191 00:09:44,759 --> 00:09:45,639 Speaker 2: That was not fair. 192 00:09:45,759 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 1: I'm only only knew he was called Decla mcmatis's real name, 193 00:09:48,639 --> 00:09:52,120 Little Hands of Concrete, I digress. 194 00:09:53,799 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 2: Tony went into the studio and they talked. 195 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,399 Speaker 1: About songs and what's new with the band and uh 196 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,799 and I guess this was I'm thinking back two thousand 197 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,759 and one, I think. And then Kurt said this, Tony, 198 00:10:09,799 --> 00:10:11,720 do you remember when you guys used to pretend. 199 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,799 Speaker 2: You sold your souls to the devil? 200 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: And Toni Naomi looked at him and said, oh, no, mate, 201 00:10:19,879 --> 00:10:20,759 that was no joke. 202 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 2: Well absolutely sold our souls to say. 203 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: Oh, and Kurt had a little trouble recovering from that. 204 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:40,200 Kurt was a Mormon and that children. This kind of 205 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:45,080 gave an uncomfortable laugh, haha. Tony always with us and 206 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,399 kind of tried to recover to talk about the tour, 207 00:10:49,639 --> 00:10:53,159 and it took the breath out of the interview. And 208 00:10:53,399 --> 00:10:57,600 since they were shaking hands later everyone around heard what 209 00:10:57,639 --> 00:11:00,840 he said. He didn't change it. He didn't say, mate, 210 00:11:00,879 --> 00:11:02,879 you know, just can't let that go out in public, 211 00:11:02,879 --> 00:11:07,559 you know, go to keep the looks up. Was Ozzy 212 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:15,879 Osborne saved if Ozzy Osborne knew that that's what Tony 213 00:11:15,919 --> 00:11:19,600 Iaomi's view was, and Ozzy Osborne didn't repent of that. 214 00:11:21,639 --> 00:11:25,279 If Ozzy Osborne didn't go get delivered from that, if 215 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:30,679 he didn't retract that agreement, then the devil would have 216 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:37,279 a legal claim on Ozzie's soul. And demons are legalistic 217 00:11:38,759 --> 00:11:41,679 and they are good at it. This would be a 218 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,000 very good time, if you love his music, a very 219 00:11:45,039 --> 00:11:48,879 good time to pray for mercy for Ozzy. This would 220 00:11:48,919 --> 00:11:52,200 be a very good time to pray for mercy for 221 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:59,360 Tony Iomi. Story number two. Do you think treason should 222 00:11:59,399 --> 00:12:03,879 mean something? No, this is not a Hey, let's go 223 00:12:04,039 --> 00:12:06,679 out and make fun of language and let's go and 224 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,519 make No, it's a very serious question. Do you think 225 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:14,559 it should mean a thing? I think it should. The 226 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,399 word fascism no longer means a thing. It is simply 227 00:12:18,519 --> 00:12:20,879 that you don't like a person, therefore they're fascist. It 228 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:24,720 does not mean that business and government become one and 229 00:12:24,759 --> 00:12:27,960 align against the people to force them to pay money 230 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,279 into a system that self perpetuates. It no longer means 231 00:12:31,279 --> 00:12:34,879 that it's tied to state control and state violence upon people. 232 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,480 It no longer means a clownish legal system, which is 233 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:40,279 simply kangaroo courts. 234 00:12:40,639 --> 00:12:44,799 Speaker 2: It now means that you deport people. That's fascist. You 235 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,279 will not push the COVID shots. That's fascist. That's what 236 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:47,679 it means. 237 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:47,919 Speaker 3: Now. 238 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: It means everything and nothing, and when a word means everything, 239 00:12:51,759 --> 00:12:54,679 it means nothing. We haven't yet gotten there on treason, 240 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:59,279 and I'd rather we not get their untreason because it's 241 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:02,519 a very very serious thing. It should remain a serious thing. 242 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:08,639 And when we accuse former presidents or former sect state, 243 00:13:09,519 --> 00:13:12,399 former D and I people, intelligence people, it should mean 244 00:13:12,519 --> 00:13:12,919 a thing. 245 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 2: So does it. 246 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:18,039 Speaker 1: You of course know what Tulci Gabbard said and the 247 00:13:18,159 --> 00:13:21,080 document she released, and how she's characterized these documents, And 248 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,919 if you've not read the documents, I encourage you to 249 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,799 go to the source material and read the actual source 250 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:30,600 material and make your own decisions. Tulci Gabbard has a 251 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,279 dog in this hunt. She is the D and I 252 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,320 Director of National Intelligence. She works for President Trump. She 253 00:13:35,399 --> 00:13:37,720 clearly wants a political future. She'd clearly like to be 254 00:13:37,759 --> 00:13:40,960 a vice presidential candidate. She'd clearly like to lead something 255 00:13:41,039 --> 00:13:43,159 like Joint chiefs of Staff. She'd clearly like to be. 256 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:48,759 Speaker 2: President one day. And she did release the documents of. 257 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:53,279 Speaker 4: This are frankly nothing short of historic. Over one hundred 258 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:58,080 documents that we released on Friday really detail and provide 259 00:13:58,159 --> 00:14:04,039 evidence of how this treasonous conspiracy was directed by President 260 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:07,639 Obama just weeks before he was due to leave office, 261 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,000 after President Trump had already gotten elected. This is not 262 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,840 a Democrat or Republican issue. This is an issue that 263 00:14:14,919 --> 00:14:18,360 is so serious it should concern every single American because 264 00:14:18,399 --> 00:14:21,960 it has to do with the integrity of our democratic republic. 265 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,279 What we saw occur here, as the documents we released detailed, 266 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:28,440 was that we had a sitting president of the United 267 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,879 States and his cabinet and leadership team, quite frankly, who 268 00:14:31,879 --> 00:14:34,759 were not happy with the fact that President Trump had 269 00:14:34,759 --> 00:14:37,559 won the election, that the American people had chosen Donald J. 270 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:40,279 Trump to be the next president commander in chief of 271 00:14:40,279 --> 00:14:43,320 the United States, and so they decided that they would 272 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,600 do everything possible to try to undermine his ability to 273 00:14:47,639 --> 00:14:52,440 do what voters task President Trump to do. So, creating 274 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:57,679 this piece of manufactured intelligence that claims that Russia had 275 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:01,879 helped Donald Trump get elected contradicted every other assessment that 276 00:15:01,919 --> 00:15:04,399 had been made previously in the months leading up to 277 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,639 the election that said exactly the opposite, that Russia neither 278 00:15:07,679 --> 00:15:10,759 had neither the intent nor the capability to try to 279 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,519 quote unquote hack the United States election for the presidency 280 00:15:14,519 --> 00:15:18,240 of the United States. So the effect of what President 281 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:23,080 Obama and his senior national security team did was subvert 282 00:15:23,159 --> 00:15:27,879 the will of the American people, undermining our democratic republic 283 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,919 and enacting what would be essentially a year's long coup 284 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:36,720 against President Trump, who was duly elected by the American people. 285 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: So what does treason mean legally? 286 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,279 Speaker 1: And I know it would be a lot more fun 287 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,639 just to do red meat stuff on this and scream 288 00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:47,600 and yell that they committed treason, because they very definitely, 289 00:15:47,639 --> 00:15:49,679 in my mind, committed a crime and a serious of 290 00:15:49,799 --> 00:15:52,559 very very serious crimes. But treason should mean a thing. 291 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:55,279 So let's go through the meaning here in a second, 292 00:15:55,279 --> 00:15:57,919 because it's very very important that we be precise unless 293 00:15:57,919 --> 00:16:00,759 we want to do with the left does and make 294 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,240 treason everything and therefore nothing, because we could look at 295 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,480 what they did, and there are things they did, and 296 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:10,080 there's very very clear there's a legal definition for what 297 00:16:10,159 --> 00:16:12,399 they did. I don't know that there's treason, But do 298 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:17,519 you care, I'm asking you, honestly, no, honestly, if you're 299 00:16:17,559 --> 00:16:20,320 angry about what the left has done and attempts to 300 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,840 destroy this country, to separate this country, to accused President 301 00:16:23,879 --> 00:16:27,320 Trump of letting Russia hack the elections, all this. If 302 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,679 that frustrates you, do you truly care about the definition 303 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,000 of treason or do you just want them charged with it? 304 00:16:33,799 --> 00:16:38,080 Because being precise matters and things like this, you had 305 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:43,799 better be precise about your position in your business, your 306 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,200 small or medium sized business. Is it actually a business? 307 00:16:49,279 --> 00:16:52,320 So your corporation or LLC is that a business? Or 308 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,159 is that you You have a corporate bank account, right, 309 00:16:56,679 --> 00:17:00,679 but is that corporate money or is that your private money? 310 00:17:00,879 --> 00:17:03,240 Is your house and your retirement savings. 311 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,799 Speaker 2: Is it secure. 312 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 1: From a lawsuit if someone sues your business? I can 313 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,119 tell you almost certainly. Unless your bank set you up 314 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,799 with corporate credit, meaning they didn't touch your social Security number, 315 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,720 I can tell you probably don't have corporate credit, and 316 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,160 you can find out. Go look at your formation papers. 317 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,079 If it contains your social Security number. You don't have 318 00:17:28,839 --> 00:17:32,240 corporate credit, You've got personal credit. 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No person 329 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,720 shall be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of 330 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,599 two witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession 331 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:15,079 and open courts. Article three, Section three, Clause two states 332 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,720 the Congress show of the party declared the punishment of treason, 333 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:21,920 But no attainer of treason shall shall work corruption of 334 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,839 blood or forfeiture, except during the life of the person attained. 335 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:32,759 Did they levy war against the United States? Not physically? 336 00:18:34,519 --> 00:18:38,920 Did they provide aid or comfort to the enemy, not directly? 337 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,119 Do I want it to be treason? Yeah, that's where 338 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,920 my heart's at. I would love to see him charge 339 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,960 of treason. Because they poisoned the minds of Americans about 340 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,400 President Trump. They made it difficult for him to lead. 341 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:58,720 There were still people in two thousand, nineteen who believed 342 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:05,039 that Russia Acts actually hacked the vote count. So yes, 343 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,559 I would love to be able to say it's treason. 344 00:19:08,079 --> 00:19:12,640 I just don't think it is. And I if you 345 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,039 could help me make it treason in my mind, help me. 346 00:19:15,079 --> 00:19:17,240 If you're a lawyer, leave a comment, tell me what 347 00:19:17,319 --> 00:19:17,839 I'm missing. 348 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:19,839 Speaker 2: Oh, it's something. 349 00:19:21,079 --> 00:19:26,279 Speaker 1: Oh it's a seditious conspiracy. Absolutely, I believe it's sedition wholeheartedly. 350 00:19:26,279 --> 00:19:29,279 We can go through that. I believe it's a grand conspiracy. 351 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,400 I believe it's criminal. I believe there's multiple felmies that 352 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,079 have been committed, certainly national security felonies. 353 00:19:36,839 --> 00:19:39,279 Speaker 2: Certainly. I think there was an attempt to overthrow the government. 354 00:19:39,319 --> 00:19:43,279 Speaker 1: That sedition, and sedition's pretty easily explained as well. In 355 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,839 legal terms, edition is the active in citing rebellion against 356 00:19:45,839 --> 00:19:48,720 a government, often through speech are writing. It's a criminal 357 00:19:48,759 --> 00:19:51,720 offense that involves attempting to disrupt the established order and 358 00:19:51,799 --> 00:19:54,599 authority of the state. What can be prosecuted. It's rarely 359 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,440 charged in the US due to the strong protections of 360 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,279 free speech and the availability of other charges like treason 361 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:03,359 or espionage. For more direct threats to national security. They 362 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:08,640 did attempt a rebellion. They did attempt to disrupt the 363 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:11,960 established order in the authority of state by trying to 364 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,319 make it seem that President Trump took direct orders from 365 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,079 Russia and that the election. 366 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 2: Was hacked, the vote count was hacked. 367 00:20:21,759 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: And I know that similar charges has been made against 368 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,839 President Trump by saying the election was rigged and stolen. 369 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:31,920 I know that do we have evidence that President Trump 370 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:36,400 from the Oval office used these concerns manufactured it seems 371 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,559 about Russia to start spying on people, that's espionage. Using 372 00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:43,119 the power of the state to spy on your presidential 373 00:20:43,519 --> 00:20:49,000 enemies or opponents, that's espionage. And the spying didn't just 374 00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:52,559 contain itself to Team Trump. There were other government agencies 375 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:55,640 in which they spied. Barack Obama was part of this, 376 00:20:56,519 --> 00:20:59,480 and eight days after Obama received report that Russia had 377 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,640 no effect the outcome of the election and that Russian 378 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,960 interference was negligible at best, Obama very carefully began. 379 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 2: A speech in a series as speeches and watch the arts. 380 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 5: I'm going to let all the political pundits in this 381 00:21:13,759 --> 00:21:19,240 town have a long discussion about what happened in the election. 382 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,079 It was a fascinating election, so you know, I'm sure 383 00:21:22,079 --> 00:21:24,039 there are going to be a lot of books written 384 00:21:24,079 --> 00:21:32,720 about it. We will provide evidence that we can safely 385 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:42,759 provide that does not compromise sources and methods. But I'll 386 00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:46,000 be honest with you, when you're talking about cybersecurity, a 387 00:21:46,039 --> 00:21:48,759 lot of it is classified, and we're not going to 388 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:55,880 provide it because the way we catch folks is by 389 00:21:56,799 --> 00:22:01,599 knowing certain things about them that they may not want 390 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,960 us to know. And if we're going to monitor this 391 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,920 stuff effectively going forward, we don't want them to know 392 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,279 that we know. 393 00:22:07,519 --> 00:22:10,799 Speaker 1: December sixteen, twenty sixteen, mays More on Twitter found this 394 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,599 stuff and laid this out for us. 395 00:22:12,839 --> 00:22:14,759 Speaker 2: Obama started to lay out the web. 396 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:24,839 Speaker 5: So this is one of those situations where unless the 397 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:31,160 American people genuinely think that the professionals in the CIA, 398 00:22:32,759 --> 00:22:38,880 the FBI, our entire intelligence infrastructure, many of whom, by 399 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:46,519 the way, served in previous administrations and who are Republicans, 400 00:22:48,720 --> 00:23:01,319 are less trustworthy than the Russians, then people should pay 401 00:23:01,319 --> 00:23:03,079 attention to what our intelligence agency say. 402 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 2: And here's what they said. 403 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden laptop story was had all the harmarks of 404 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,960 Russian propaganda. 405 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 2: Here's what they said. 406 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: There's this video President Trump urinating on a bed with 407 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,400 so called sex workers in Russia. Here's what they said, 408 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:36,000 direct link, direct banking link between Trump and the Kremlin. Incidentally, 409 00:23:36,039 --> 00:23:38,319 there's reason to believe that Hillary Clinton's tech team tried 410 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,480 to establish such a link. 411 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:43,200 Speaker 2: Here's what they said. 412 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: After they issued a report saying that Russia had no 413 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,240 material effect on this, and Obama said, I'd like to 414 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:51,279 see a different conclusion, they went and created a different conclusion. 415 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 2: That's what they said. 416 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,799 Speaker 1: Said they all signed a document, not all, but about 417 00:23:56,799 --> 00:23:59,720 fifty of them signed a document. If they want to 418 00:23:59,759 --> 00:24:02,680 be trustworthy, they should be trustworthy. If you want to 419 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:08,759 be trusted, be trustworthy. Obama continued to talk about partisan politics. 420 00:24:08,759 --> 00:24:11,480 As you know, he was the first nonpartisan presidents. 421 00:24:11,559 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 5: What I worry about more than anything is the degree 422 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,400 to which, because of the fierceness of the partisan battle, 423 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,160 you've started to see certain folks in the Republican Party 424 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:36,039 and Republican voters suddenly finding a government and individuals who 425 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:42,680 stand contrary to everything that we stand for as being okay, 426 00:24:42,799 --> 00:24:47,960 because that's how much we dislike Democrats. 427 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: This is a man who invited Hamas into the White House. 428 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,880 That is a man who stopped our intelligence services from 429 00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:04,599 arresting Taliban members for smuggling drugs over across, through and 430 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:08,960 under our southern border in concert with Mexico based Narco Terras, 431 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:14,759 as detailed in the Politico's Project. Cassandra reports, that is 432 00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:19,640 the man who illegally gave pallets of cash. 433 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,599 Speaker 2: To Iran. 434 00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:25,039 Speaker 1: He did that in contravention to an order he had 435 00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:28,599 to reaffirm twice during his presidency. Had to reaffirm that 436 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,880 he would not have financial dealings with Iran, and they 437 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,599 took that to mean banking dealings, which is why the 438 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,200 money was delivered in. 439 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 2: Pallets of cash. 440 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: Yes, he's deeply concerned about partisan politics. This was born 441 00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:46,440 out of the Oval Office, It was directed by him. 442 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,079 It had a material effect on the election. It had 443 00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:53,079 a material effect on President Trump's ability to govern. It 444 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,680 cost the nation millions of dollars, and to this moment, 445 00:25:56,759 --> 00:25:58,279 it traumatizes people. 446 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 2: To this moment, they're going back to that well. It 447 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,519 put people in prison. 448 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,319 Speaker 1: It opened up the floodgates to go after President Trump 449 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,000 with lawfare of all sorts, which is going after now 450 00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:18,559 our nation. Obama then talked about President Trump himself or 451 00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:21,359 at this point, this is December sixteen, twenty sixteen, President 452 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:21,960 elect Trump. 453 00:26:22,079 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 4: Do the tweets and do the statements by Donald Trump 454 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,720 and bold in Russia. 455 00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 2: That's that's Martha Radditt's Oh gosh, what a tough question, Martha. 456 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:31,559 I wonder what he'll say. 457 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 5: Our vulnerability to Russia or any other foreign power is 458 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:46,839 directly related to how divided, partisan dysfunctional our political processes. 459 00:26:47,839 --> 00:26:50,440 Speaker 1: Pick a target, isolated, cut it off from as support base. 460 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,839 That is a man who grew up under Sololinsky as 461 00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:56,759 a politician. That is a man who launched his career 462 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,519 as a politician in the home of an unre penant 463 00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:05,319 domestic terrorists named Bill Ayers. That is a man who, 464 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,000 once he launched that political career, practiced the Olenski rules 465 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,960 all in. That is a man who taught Olenski methodologies 466 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,160 for how to tear aparts a democratic society. That is 467 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,039 a man who presented himself as a simple man simply 468 00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:24,440 there to bring racial harmonies to the nation. Once he 469 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,200 entered the Oval office, he began doing everything he could 470 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:32,160 to divide us racially. After his term began, race relations 471 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,079 in this country worsened. Treason should mean to something. I 472 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:41,279 don't think what they did rises to treason, seditious conspiracy, absolutely, 473 00:27:41,319 --> 00:27:44,440 fraud against the United States, felonies, nation security failies. Go 474 00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:48,160 convictim of the things they did, and do it well 475 00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:54,920 so that charges cannot be questioned. Story number three there 476 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,039 is a very well. I mean, all sin is serious 477 00:27:58,039 --> 00:28:00,680 because it can divorce you from God. It can separate 478 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,279 you from God. But there is a sin, and it's 479 00:28:03,319 --> 00:28:08,920 the only unforgivable sin. And God help this man who 480 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,519 gets to call himself a Presbyterian pastor. This is from 481 00:28:12,559 --> 00:28:16,720 our friends at Protestia dot com. And he's with the PCUSA, 482 00:28:16,839 --> 00:28:22,680 which is a corrupt Presbyterian denomination. And I'm sure there's 483 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:31,680 probably a decent PCUSA church somewhere, but the pc USA 484 00:28:31,839 --> 00:28:36,279 organization has no business allowing this guy to continue to 485 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,000 be in that denomination or to call himself a Presbyterian pastor. 486 00:28:40,319 --> 00:28:42,839 And they owe it to people's souls to make clear 487 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,279 that what you're about to see is in fact a 488 00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:47,680 blaspheming of the Holy Spirit, and there's no way to 489 00:28:47,759 --> 00:28:48,200 cleanse it. 490 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 2: Once you commit this. 491 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,359 Speaker 1: It is an unforgivable sin that Jesus will not cleanse 492 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,640 from you and all of us, all of us need 493 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,200 to be cleansed. All of us need to go through 494 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,880 the process of sanctification. Once you accept Jesus and accept 495 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,160 them as your lord and savior, are going to be 496 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,119 changed by him. We are pursuing sanctification, which is to 497 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,279 be made more holy every day. In other words, more 498 00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:13,759 like Jesus. Now that's our souls. And you know there's 499 00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:17,279 that whole thing. Cleansliness is next to godliness true. So 500 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,880 clean your body with the soap that also provides you 501 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,599 clarity for your soul. Do you believe all lives matter? 502 00:29:22,759 --> 00:29:25,519 I think you do. Do you believe as you treat 503 00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:27,359 the least of these, so you treat Jesus himself. 504 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:28,119 Speaker 2: I bet that you do. 505 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: So. 506 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: Use Alansoaps from alansaps dot com slash todd. It is 507 00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:36,160 truly artisan. It's made by a family. They've done this 508 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,839 for three generations. There's no chemicals in it. It's all natural. 509 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,359 It's very gentle soap, and the soap is excellent. But 510 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:48,559 the companies values match ours. They employ Allan. He is 511 00:29:48,599 --> 00:29:51,240 the namesake of the company. He's also the chief soap officer. 512 00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,759 He's invented many of the fragrances. He works every day 513 00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:58,480 there in packaging and quality control. His brother Ian works there. 514 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:02,400 Both of them are impact by autism. Alan is effectively nonverbal. 515 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,559 Recently we had the blessing of bringing on Amy, who 516 00:30:05,599 --> 00:30:09,599 became autistic in a late age. It's called late onset autism. 517 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,079 She works there fruitfully after she was told by the world, sorry, 518 00:30:13,119 --> 00:30:16,720 you can't participate anymore. Go to alansaps dot com slash 519 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,920 todd get ten percent off all their products there allin 520 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,160 soaps dot com slash todd. This is a Presbyterian so 521 00:30:23,359 --> 00:30:29,680 called pastor. The Presbyterian Church USA PC USA must deflock 522 00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:32,240 this man and have him removed from being able to 523 00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:34,799 claim being a Presbyterian pastor. 524 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 3: Jesus is not my God? 525 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:42,559 Speaker 2: Now before the hes are going off? 526 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 5: Or what did you go to search for book orders 527 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,680 by geological hit here. 528 00:30:47,519 --> 00:30:48,039 Speaker 1: Me out here. 529 00:30:50,079 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 3: I follow Jesus. Somebody even say apologies is to false. 530 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,519 Speaker 1: I believe that Jesus reveals the divine and a uniquely 531 00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:03,240 transformative way that I've seen no other do. 532 00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 2: But I don't believe that Jesus is God. And I'm 533 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,480 not alone on this. 534 00:31:11,559 --> 00:31:14,359 Speaker 1: I'm not even close to being alone on this. A 535 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,319 whole bunch of early Christians didn't believe that either, and 536 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:19,799 we'll talk about some of them because. 537 00:31:19,599 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 3: They wrote the books. 538 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:25,079 Speaker 5: A whole bunch of progressive Christians don't now they contrary 539 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,279 to popular belief. 540 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,599 Speaker 3: Even within our pc USA tradition, that's the cowardest influence. 541 00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:35,960 Reformed Jesus is fully God and fully human tradition. 542 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 2: Even within that, there is room to wrestle with the question. 543 00:31:41,839 --> 00:31:46,119 Speaker 1: No, there's not, John Chapter ten, verses thirty through thirty eight. 544 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,440 I and the Father are one, so actually there's no 545 00:31:51,559 --> 00:31:52,839 room to wrestle with it. 546 00:31:54,119 --> 00:31:54,359 Speaker 2: Again. 547 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: Has Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone and that? 548 00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:58,799 Jesus said to them, I've shown you many good works 549 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:00,839 from the Father for which of the do you stone me. 550 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,519 We're not stoning you for any good work, they replied, 551 00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,920 but for blasphemy, because you are a mere man claim 552 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,759 to be God. Jesus answered them, is it not written 553 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:11,880 in your law? I have said your gods if he 554 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,559 called them gods to whom the words of God came 555 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,200 and scripture cannot be set aside? What about the one 556 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,920 whom the Father set apart as his very own and 557 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,359 sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me 558 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,480 of blasphemy? Because I said I am God's son. Do 559 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,000 not believe me unless I do the works of my Father. 560 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,039 But if I do them, even though you do not 561 00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:33,279 believe me, believe the works that you may know and 562 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,559 understand that the Father is in me and I am 563 00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:37,599 in the Father. And again back to the top of these, 564 00:32:38,319 --> 00:32:42,839 back to the top of the chapter, line thirty, I 565 00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:48,000 am the Father are one. So you either believe Jesus 566 00:32:48,119 --> 00:32:54,720 Christ and what he spoke, or you don't. Jesus raised 567 00:32:54,759 --> 00:33:01,319 people from the dead twice before he raised himself. Jesus 568 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:06,200 cured lepers in front of hundreds of people. Jesus restored 569 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:13,400 the ability of people to walk, He restored sight, He 570 00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:20,920 accurately prophesied his own demise for three days in his 571 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,880 own rising again, and Jesus left no room. I and 572 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,599 the Father are one. That man said before the heresy 573 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,400 alarms go off, it's not heresy. You have blasphemed the 574 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:37,279 Holy Spirit, which means you've taken something sacred and holy 575 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,000 and diminished it to the point of absurdity. You have 576 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,039 directly countered, directly said that Jesus Christ is a liar 577 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,720 about being God. You have blasphemed the holy spirits. And 578 00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:54,680 if I'm wrong, Lord, inform me. I don't think it 579 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,440 gets to be a more clear case of this. Presbyterian 580 00:33:58,519 --> 00:34:03,599 Church US say is nomination. It either allows this person 581 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,240 to continue to claim to be a pastor or it doesn't. 582 00:34:07,839 --> 00:34:09,920 And if they allow him to continue to be a pastor, 583 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,360 then they are sponsoring this form of blasphemy. They are 584 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:18,360 sponsoring blaspheming the Holy Spirit. I'm not saying it's incrimination 585 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,360 by association, but I'm not saying it's not. 586 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:25,360 Speaker 2: This is the Todd Hermertshaw. 587 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: Please go, be well, be strong, be kind, and make 588 00:34:29,039 --> 00:34:33,119 a decision today to unlike him, walk in the light 589 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:33,679 of Christ.