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<v Speaker 1>We're here to win, like this is Kentucky. The first

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<v Speaker 1>time we don't win a game, you guys are going

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<v Speaker 1>to go burn my house down.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, we always knew Mark Pope was a smart guy,

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<v Speaker 2>got it right, didn't he? That is the new UK

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<v Speaker 2>coach followed me last night's blowout win over Kentucky Wesley

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<v Speaker 2>and welcome to the Big Moonsider. Dick Gabriel with you

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<v Speaker 2>on a Thursday. Basketball season is here. Yes, it was

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<v Speaker 2>just an exhibition game, but wow, one twenty three to

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<v Speaker 2>fifty two over Kentucky Wesley and the Kentucky Wesley and

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<v Speaker 2>coach Drew Cooper apologized. You may have heard that already,

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<v Speaker 2>saying he wished his team had given Mark Pope and

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<v Speaker 2>his team a better game. He apologized to Mark Pope

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<v Speaker 2>and told us that in the media gathering after. But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about the effort by Kentucky Wesley, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course he knows his team so much better than

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<v Speaker 2>I do. All I know is what I saw last night,

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<v Speaker 2>and he saw a lack of effort, or what he

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<v Speaker 2>perceived to be a lack of effort. But Mark Pope

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<v Speaker 2>saw and his team what he was hoping to see.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that tonight. He didn't see enough of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, it's the first game for crying out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>But fans saw what they loved, and Twitter, of course

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<v Speaker 2>buzzing last night. It's still buzzing fans, of course, but

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<v Speaker 2>national media chiming in about what they saw, and some

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<v Speaker 2>of them kind of walked up to the precipice of hey,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I was wrong. Didn't quite jump over it. But

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<v Speaker 2>of course, not much expected from this Kentucky team by fans,

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<v Speaker 2>by the so called experts. But I will tell you this,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm sure there's a lot of overreaction to.

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<v Speaker 3>This Kentucky game. When you shoot sixty.

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<v Speaker 2>Three percent from the floor for crying out a loud

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<v Speaker 2>fifty percent from beyond the arc, I don't care if

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<v Speaker 2>you're playing Tates Creek Junior High pretty good, but we

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<v Speaker 2>all know competition, with all due respect to Kentucky Wesleyan,

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<v Speaker 2>will be much stiffer as the season goes on. Game

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<v Speaker 2>was not real physical. I think it's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>interesting to see what happens when Kentucky is caught up

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<v Speaker 2>in a physical kind of game, but when allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>roam and look for shots and move the ball, and

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<v Speaker 2>this team's gonna be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep in mind at.

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<v Speaker 2>Wesley And hit only four of twenty seven from beyond

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<v Speaker 2>the arc, and a lot of those were good open looks.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's so much work to be done for the wildcast.

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<v Speaker 2>But what it did this was more symbolic than anything.

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<v Speaker 2>What this did was basically put an exclamation mark on

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<v Speaker 2>the statement that Pope, his style of play and the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Blue Nation made when there was a change in

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<v Speaker 2>the coaching status, and that is time for something new,

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<v Speaker 2>time for something different, And ironically enough, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>a return to the Rick Pattino era, not with the

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<v Speaker 2>full court pressing. You're not going to see much of

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<v Speaker 2>that from this Mark po team. I don't even think

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<v Speaker 2>he's talked about that much. But what you saw last

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<v Speaker 2>night is how they hope to get it done all

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<v Speaker 2>ye that was the best case scenario, of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>finishing the game of a fifteen to two run, even

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<v Speaker 2>though they missed six of their last seven shots because

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<v Speaker 2>they held Kentucky Wesleyan down. And again, defense is vital

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<v Speaker 2>to this Kentucky team. So hey off to a good start,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun. And somebody asked Mark pope about,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, did this kind of unfold in terms.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the numbers the way he hoped it would.

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<v Speaker 2>And he basically was holding up a stat sheet, and

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<v Speaker 2>I said, and I'm paraphrasing, that what's on the stat

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<v Speaker 2>sheet was inconsequential compared to what he wanted to see

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of how his team played.

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<v Speaker 1>We're deadly serious about winning winning matters. I don't spend

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of time. I don't spend as much time

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<v Speaker 1>on I know this sounds very contradictory. I don't actually

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly how to explain it. But we're here to win,

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<v Speaker 1>Like this is Kentucky. The first time we don't win

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<v Speaker 1>a game, you guys are going to go burn my

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<v Speaker 1>house down, Okay. But we don't spend a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>time thinking about what this sheet is going to look

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<v Speaker 1>like after the game. We spend all our time thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about what we're trying to what we're trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>in the moment, right, And so you know, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, there's all the nerves, right, it's our first

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<v Speaker 1>time in this building, and this is Kentucky, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>massive expectations and all those things. But you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really consumed with seeing how fast we can get better.

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<v Speaker 1>And the way we get better is by just being

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<v Speaker 1>dialed in on exactly what we're doing. So I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really anticipating seeing anything on stat sheet. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>curious to be how well can we coach our guys

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<v Speaker 1>to be great decision makers in all the ways that

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<v Speaker 1>we do it, How well can we get our guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really concerned about our energy. This was the

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<v Speaker 1>first time. You know, we try and keep it at

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<v Speaker 1>like a four or five, very focused, but in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of emotional energy, we try and live at like a three,

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<v Speaker 1>four and five, and then we're trying to get to

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<v Speaker 1>a nine and nine point five during games where we

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<v Speaker 1>can still function and make decisions. This is a long,

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<v Speaker 1>drawing out conversation we don't have time for.

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<v Speaker 4>But but but.

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<v Speaker 1>I was I was more thinking more about like our energy.

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<v Speaker 1>I took a shot at the guys before the game

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<v Speaker 1>in the locker room, and I was really trying to

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<v Speaker 1>spend all my energy trying to gauge our energy. And

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<v Speaker 1>the guys were probably better than I was in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the energy they came out with to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to have great intensity energy but still be a decision

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<v Speaker 1>maker and execute, and so we're spending a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>time thinking about those things, and then this just happens

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<v Speaker 1>because of what we're focusing on.

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<v Speaker 2>When he said this, he was holding up the statuet

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<v Speaker 2>with some pretty impressive numbers, and they're online. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of you have already studied them and broken

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<v Speaker 2>them down. Kobe Braa was one of the players who

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<v Speaker 2>came out and spoke with us. He scored thirteen points

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen minutes. I have of seven from the field,

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<v Speaker 2>three to five from beyond the r couple.

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<v Speaker 3>Of assists, a steal.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, he had one turnover. This team had

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<v Speaker 2>five turnovers. Five with all these guys coming and going

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<v Speaker 2>and again Kentucky Wesley and didn't provide the stiffest of oppositions.

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<v Speaker 2>But still, for the first time playing in a real

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<v Speaker 2>game as a team, five turnovers is pretty impressive. As

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<v Speaker 2>I say, that's impressive in the backyard, it's impressive against

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<v Speaker 2>Tates Creek Junior High. And they got it done last night.

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<v Speaker 2>And Bray talked last night about a lot of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but primarily he was asked about teamwork and unselfishness, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course he liked what he saw.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank everybody does a good job. Was just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>given what they're like, taking in what they're giving and

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<v Speaker 5>trying to do the best with what they got. And

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like everybody did a great job of just

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<v Speaker 5>accepting their role and you know, trying to be the

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<v Speaker 5>best at their row. And I feel like we did

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<v Speaker 5>a good job out there. Everybody mesh really well, which

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<v Speaker 5>is I'm not surprised about it because I've seen it

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<v Speaker 5>in practice, but to see it against the ouside Comme says,

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<v Speaker 5>it was really good.

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<v Speaker 4>Nothing seemed forced on offense.

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<v Speaker 6>Everything After the first couple of minutes, everything seemed to

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<v Speaker 6>really flow out there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it's pretty easy when you know the other

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<v Speaker 5>four guys on our team couldn't do everything that you

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<v Speaker 5>can do too, So I think we just have a

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<v Speaker 5>lot of options, a lot of weapons, and it becomes deadly,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, when everybody stakes us their strengths and just

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<v Speaker 5>plays together and does what they do well. And everybody

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<v Speaker 5>got to see it tonight, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit, everybody played the right way. What does it mean

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<v Speaker 2>when his team's playing the right way?

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<v Speaker 5>I think just like giving up a good shot for

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<v Speaker 5>a great shot. I feel like there was many times

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<v Speaker 5>that we saw that tonight and goes to speak about

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<v Speaker 5>how in selfish we are as a team, because I

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<v Speaker 5>feel like every one of us, you know, we all

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<v Speaker 5>have a really good shooting ability, but you know, we're

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<v Speaker 5>willing to give up a good shot for a great shot.

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<v Speaker 5>And we saw that a lot tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>It was Brian mile im asking about the flow, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was right about that. It was just fun to

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<v Speaker 2>watch an extra pass inside out guys who had a

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<v Speaker 2>good looking shot, as he said, passing up a good

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<v Speaker 2>shot for a great shot, and oftentimes that was an

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<v Speaker 2>inside out pass. And they were a little cold to

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<v Speaker 2>begin with, as you might expect, but man, when they

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<v Speaker 2>heat it up, and boy, when Trendoa hit three threes

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<v Speaker 2>in a row, we'll hear from him tomorrow night. But

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<v Speaker 2>I had a chance to ask him about getting back

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<v Speaker 2>out on that floor where he did so well for

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<v Speaker 2>Harlan and the Sweet sixteen. It kind of brought a

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<v Speaker 2>smile to his face. Last night's game brought a smile

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<v Speaker 2>to a lot of faces, I got to tell you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't know what the exact crowd was, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was a good one and they were loud, no

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<v Speaker 2>question about that. You know, you never get fully the

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<v Speaker 2>turnover the turnstile count. But the crowd had showed up

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<v Speaker 2>last night at a ball I will tell you that

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<v Speaker 2>all right. When we come back, we're gonna shift over

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<v Speaker 2>to Kentucky football. The Wildcats take on the Auburn Tigers,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know on Saturday night.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to come here on the big Blue and

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<v Speaker 3>Sider six thirty wlap.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back coming up at the bottom of the hour

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<v Speaker 2>just a few minutes. Dicks Senior, the father of former

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<v Speaker 2>UK wide receiver Dickey Lyons Junior, and a guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be honored at the SEC Football Championship Game.

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<v Speaker 2>He will be one of the SEC legends. He and

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<v Speaker 2>Randall Cobb were the two greatest all round players in

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<v Speaker 2>the history of Kentucky football. You might give Dickey Lion

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<v Speaker 2>Senior the edge because he was a kicker as well,

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<v Speaker 2>but the great Jeff band Note, who was our color

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<v Speaker 2>analyst for several years, played with Dickey Senior, but called

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<v Speaker 2>games that Randall Cobb played in, and he eventually said

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<v Speaker 2>he believed Randall was probably a little bit better than

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<v Speaker 2>Dickie Senior.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's keeping pretty good company.

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<v Speaker 2>And someday Randall Cobb will be an sec legend at

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<v Speaker 2>the championship game. But this season for Kentucky it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be Dickey Lyon Senior. And I've interviewed him before,

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<v Speaker 2>back before Young Dickie was even in high school. But

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<v Speaker 2>he was my first childhood college football hero. He was

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<v Speaker 2>a guy who played for the Wildcats at one of

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<v Speaker 2>their worst periods in the late sixties, when they just

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't win any games, but he just had It was

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<v Speaker 2>so exciting to listen to the games. Never got to

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<v Speaker 2>see him play on TV, but just listening on the

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<v Speaker 2>radio as I did.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time he touched the ball his team like something

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<v Speaker 2>good happened, but they just couldn't win. But he was

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<v Speaker 2>such a dynamic player, and so was his son. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what was great about it. And Dicky Junior committed to

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<v Speaker 2>the Wildcats without ever having set foot on campus. Why

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<v Speaker 2>of course, he grew up a Kentucky fan growing up

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<v Speaker 2>outside of New Orleans. That's where Dicky ended up playing

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<v Speaker 2>him about that as well. So Dicky Junior, who was

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<v Speaker 2>Richard back then, he decides, I'm going to be a

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<v Speaker 2>who said, Nope, you're going by Dickey. He's the guy

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<v Speaker 2>who recruited him. And he said, yeah, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>be Dickey Dickey Lyons junior when you get to Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>So we'll talk to him a little bit later on.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll also hear from our West n Bureau chief, Gary Moore,

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<v Speaker 2>and from Shawn Woods, the unforgettable guard. Usually we talked

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<v Speaker 2>to them on Wednesdays, but last night, of course, was

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<v Speaker 2>a basketball night, so we slided them over to Thursday.

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<v Speaker 2>The Pro Football Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five is down to eligible's fifty modern era players. Eli

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<v Speaker 2>Manning probably the best known. A couple of Kentucky connections,

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<v Speaker 2>if you will, including Shawn Alexander running back played at

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<v Speaker 2>forget talking to Bill Glazer, who was on Bill Curry's

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<v Speaker 2>as a recruiter, and he said, the first thing that

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<v Speaker 2>Shawn's family said to him was we're not coming to Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going out of state. And that's exactly what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a great career at Alabama, had a great pro career,

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<v Speaker 2>won a Super Bowl with the Seattle Seahawks, and now

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<v Speaker 2>is up and I got to think he'll get in

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<v Speaker 2>at some point for the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>Antonio Gates is nominated as well at tight end. Now

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<v Speaker 2>Gates played at kent State, but there is a slight

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky connection. Gates actually in college played basketball for Kent State.

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<v Speaker 2>He was like a six to six post player, much

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<v Speaker 2>like Chuck Hayes was at Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Kentucky connection here is.

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<v Speaker 2>Kent State in twenty oh two made the Elite eight

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<v Speaker 2>in Lexington. That's where the regional was and the Golden

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<v Speaker 2>Flashes became kind of the darling of the Lexington crowd

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<v Speaker 2>because they were the Cinderella. Stan Heath was the head coach.

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<v Speaker 2>He ended up at Arkansas. They went thirty and six

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<v Speaker 2>that year. They upset number seven seed Oklahoma State. Then

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<v Speaker 2>they shocked Alabama, which was the number two seed, and

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<v Speaker 3>To Indiana and the regional final.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the Indiana team that eventually played for the

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot of people said, you know, this guy

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<v Speaker 2>should play pro football, and he did.

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<v Speaker 3>He went on to the San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>Chargers, had a great career, and now he is eligible

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<v Speaker 2>for the Pro Football Hall of Fame. So it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be interesting. I think Eli probably gets in on

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<v Speaker 2>the strength of two Super Bowl wins. His overall record

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<v Speaker 2>not that great, but go back and look at the

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<v Speaker 2>number of fourth quarter game winning drives he led us,

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<v Speaker 2>like nineteen or so. I think put that together with

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<v Speaker 3>Think he does deserve to get in.

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky football the Wildcat's taken on Auburn Saturday night, seven

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<v Speaker 2>forty five, kickoff, five thirty pre game of Christy, Jeremy

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<v Speaker 2>and Logan, Tom and Jeff and I have a call

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<v Speaker 2>for you as Kentucky tries to snap this two game

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<v Speaker 2>losing skid and a game the Cats have got to

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<v Speaker 2>put away here at home. Going to need a great crowd,

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<v Speaker 2>should be great weather. They're going to need to control

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<v Speaker 2>of the clock like they have when they've played their best,

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<v Speaker 2>but when they get close, they got to punch it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Stoops talked about that the other day.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we have to finish place, you know, finished drives.

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<v Speaker 4>I think once again, you know, as I mentioned, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not quite as magnified if we have with the opportunities

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<v Speaker 4>that we have, if we get them in the end zone,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and you know, there's no excuse for not

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we got to get the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball in the end zone.

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<v Speaker 4>We're close, and you know, we've got to finish drives

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<v Speaker 2>I firmly believe the Vandy game goes the other way

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<v Speaker 2>if they're able to punch it in. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if the Florida game turns around if they can punch

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<v Speaker 2>it in as well. But I don't think it ends

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<v Speaker 2>up a blowout. I think it's a much closer game.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think Kentucky would have given itself a chance

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<v Speaker 2>to pull that one out down in Gainesville. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>amazing to me that we're even talking about this, given

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<v Speaker 2>ol Well, Kentucky has run the football this year much

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<v Speaker 2>less over the last few years. Getting inside the one

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<v Speaker 2>or two and come away with nothing. That's his recipe

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<v Speaker 2>for disaster, and it cannot obviously cannot keep happening.

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<v Speaker 3>Auburn's had its problems.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to force Auburn into more problems and take

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<v Speaker 2>advantage when you can. How about some short fields once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while. We'll see up next. Dicky Lyons Senior

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<v Speaker 2>here on six point thirty WLAP.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider. Join us now.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to admit I'm going to be a fanboy.

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<v Speaker 2>Here was one of my childhood heroes and a guy

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoy getting to know. When we did a

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<v Speaker 2>feature story on you, Dicky Lyons, sr U a few

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<v Speaker 2>years ago for a coaches show.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I had the pleasure of watching your son

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<v Speaker 2>play at Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 3>How are you?

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I'm doing great. All my children are doing good.

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<v Speaker 6>I got fifteen grandkids and one great grandchild.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, goodness, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, let us start by by congratulating

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<v Speaker 2>you for being named an SEC legend.

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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>What was your reaction when somebody called you with that news?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh? Kind of a shocked you know that expected anything?

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<v Speaker 6>It's uh, you know, I'll play back in the sixties

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<v Speaker 6>and I'll thought everybody forgot about you know, Nope, no way,

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<v Speaker 6>But it was really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you your teams unfortunately did not have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of success.

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<v Speaker 3>You did.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you would have traded a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>accolades for more wins. But I always think about a

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<v Speaker 2>guy like you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you did it all.

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<v Speaker 2>Punt return, kick return, you kick, you punted, d back,

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<v Speaker 2>offensive back, receiver. It's like you were playing in the backyard,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you got to do a little bit of everything.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, that's right. And I always loved I loved football

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<v Speaker 6>so much. And I didn't have any regrets about going

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<v Speaker 6>to Kentucky because my mother and dad they got to

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<v Speaker 6>see me play all the time. If I'd have went

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<v Speaker 6>to Notre Dame or Alabama, they would have never got

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<v Speaker 6>to see me because my dad's car had barely got

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<v Speaker 6>him to work it back. So and you know, back then,

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<v Speaker 6>nobody had any money. Yeah, and so you know, it

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<v Speaker 6>was really nice that him and my mom were able

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<v Speaker 6>to see me play. And and my mom lived in

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<v Speaker 6>ninety five and she got to to watch a little

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<v Speaker 6>Dickey pots that's great. So it was, it was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 6>I never great it ever, going to the University of Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 6>and uh, my buddy kind of convinced me. My senior

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<v Speaker 6>year in high school. Uh, I got a call from

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<v Speaker 6>Colonel Sanders Kentucky Fried Chicken, and he sent a limbo

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<v Speaker 6>to get me, and he brought me up to Shelbyville

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<v Speaker 6>where he was living. And uh, he gave me a

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<v Speaker 6>whole bag of Kentucky Fried Chicken coupons, and me and

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<v Speaker 6>Mom and daddy we had a ball.

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<v Speaker 8>Man.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, tell me tell me.

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<v Speaker 2>A little more about your recruitment though, because he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>the only dignitary who tried to influence you.

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<v Speaker 4>Was he?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh? Actually no, they you know, Paul Horning and my

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<v Speaker 6>brother were real good friends. They went to school together,

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<v Speaker 6>of course they were. They were trying to get me

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<v Speaker 6>to go to Notre Dame, you know. And uh, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 6>I knew that I was going to go to Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 6>like I told you, because I knew Mom and dad

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<v Speaker 6>wanted to see me play, and they watched me play

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<v Speaker 6>in grade school at Saint Pis and then Saint xt

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<v Speaker 6>and so I wanted them to be able to see me.

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<v Speaker 6>And then my best friend of Bob Robert, we were

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<v Speaker 6>real good friends. He went to Bishop David and we

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<v Speaker 6>were buddies. And that was the only school he was

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<v Speaker 6>offered with Kentucky. So I told him, I said, we're

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<v Speaker 6>going to go have fun, man, And we did. We

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<v Speaker 6>had a ball.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like for you after a game where

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<v Speaker 2>you you did everything and again, you did it in

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<v Speaker 2>high school, you did it at Saint Pias, but big

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<v Speaker 2>boy football, as you know, is different, so you had

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<v Speaker 2>to be just totally exhausted. I would think after a

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<v Speaker 2>college football game.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that true?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, when you're when you're nineteen twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 6>one years old, dick, you don't get exhausted. I'm telling

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<v Speaker 6>you I was. I was in such good physical shape

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<v Speaker 6>I just couldn't after the game. I mean, we would

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<v Speaker 6>take off me and Probert all my buddies and we'd

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<v Speaker 6>have a ball. You know, I don't ever remember getting

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<v Speaker 6>tired at all. You don't think about that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's good? And yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 6>And even when I was playing pro ball, when I

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<v Speaker 6>was went to think, they had me running back bucks kickoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>I started on safety. Uh, the head coach wanted to

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<v Speaker 6>put me running back and everything, and then I got

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<v Speaker 6>then I got my knee hurt and ended it all. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>it was it was I never have any regrets. It

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<v Speaker 6>was It was a great life and football was Uh

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<v Speaker 6>it was a lot of fun, and that meant a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of great people, and so we really enjoyed it.

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<v Speaker 2>You were the first player in SEC history with a

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<v Speaker 2>thousand yards rushing, one thousand yards and punt returns and

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<v Speaker 2>a thousand yards and kickoff returns. What was it about

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<v Speaker 2>the return game that you enjoyed so much?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I really just enjoy at all. I mean I

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<v Speaker 6>just loved I didn't want to ever come off the field.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I wanted to play defense. I wanted to run, back, punch,

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<v Speaker 6>kick off. And of course, at that time at Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 6>we didn't really have a lot of big time players,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, and you know we and you I think

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<v Speaker 6>they were limited to the amount of people they could shigne.

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<v Speaker 6>And of course, you know Alabama and you know Tennessee

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<v Speaker 6>and all those teams they were getting all the big

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<v Speaker 6>time players. And but you know, the guys played hard

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<v Speaker 6>and all my teammates I loved them. We had you know,

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<v Speaker 6>we did as good as we possibly could, but you know,

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<v Speaker 6>competing in the shu receive was just really tough for us.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure if you knew this because I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know it until a few years ago when the great

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar Combs told me this. But Bear Bryant worked up

425
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<v Speaker 2>or at least he took responsibility for it, this policy

426
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<v Speaker 2>about not recruiting out of state players. I mean he

427
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<v Speaker 2>he had some tremendous teams with kids from all over

428
00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:13.400
<v Speaker 2>the country, you know, Pennsylvania, Ohio, you know, all over

429
00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:17.119
<v Speaker 2>the place, the South. But for the longest time they

430
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<v Speaker 2>severely limited uk. UK limited itself to kids who were

431
00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:25.279
<v Speaker 2>for the most part, in state, and that really I

432
00:22:25.400 --> 00:22:27.440
<v Speaker 2>felt like sid Kentucky football back.

433
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<v Speaker 3>Were you aware of that. How frustrating was that?

434
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<v Speaker 6>Well, like I say, you don't think about that when

435
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:39.240
<v Speaker 6>you're in college. You know, I've never thought about being

436
00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:43.000
<v Speaker 6>frustrated or anything. We you know, we had kids from

437
00:22:43.079 --> 00:22:45.400
<v Speaker 6>up in the mountains, and you know, they didn't have

438
00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:48.079
<v Speaker 6>a lot of football up in the mountains. As a

439
00:22:48.119 --> 00:22:50.839
<v Speaker 6>matter of fact, they played six man football, that's right,

440
00:22:52.079 --> 00:22:55.720
<v Speaker 6>you know, Mike Ranada and the guys came from in

441
00:22:55.759 --> 00:22:59.039
<v Speaker 6>the mountains. They were we had some good players. And

442
00:22:59.200 --> 00:23:01.880
<v Speaker 6>then of course in you know where they had you know,

443
00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:04.200
<v Speaker 6>that was the biggest down word where they could you know,

444
00:23:04.359 --> 00:23:07.720
<v Speaker 6>get players. But it was all the hard getting them

445
00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:10.279
<v Speaker 6>sometimes to go to Kentucky. If they were real good,

446
00:23:10.319 --> 00:23:13.240
<v Speaker 6>they go to Notre Dame or some Indiana or someplace

447
00:23:13.400 --> 00:23:18.279
<v Speaker 6>like that. But you know, I, you know, I really

448
00:23:18.319 --> 00:23:20.960
<v Speaker 6>didn't think about anything. When you're in college, you're just

449
00:23:21.440 --> 00:23:24.039
<v Speaker 6>going there. I mean, look, there's no way I could

450
00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.279
<v Speaker 6>have went to college if I didn't play football, right,

451
00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:29.960
<v Speaker 6>I mean I didn't have no money. My dad had

452
00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:32.680
<v Speaker 6>no money and nobody. So I was so happy just

453
00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:36.240
<v Speaker 6>being there and I had people, I had free lunch,

454
00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:37.559
<v Speaker 6>I got free dinners.

455
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<v Speaker 3>You know. Yeah.

456
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<v Speaker 6>We lived in a you know, we lived in the

457
00:23:41.680 --> 00:23:44.200
<v Speaker 6>in the dorms, you know, the football players had a

458
00:23:44.279 --> 00:23:47.799
<v Speaker 6>freshman door and then a senior dorm. And we got

459
00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:51.519
<v Speaker 6>food all the time, and it was like being in heaven.

460
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<v Speaker 3>Man, you know, what's up?

461
00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:55.119
<v Speaker 6>I never had any regrets.

462
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<v Speaker 3>What did your dad do for a living?

463
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<v Speaker 6>He worked for rentals of loose okay, way back and uh.

464
00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:10.400
<v Speaker 6>And then just right before I went to Kentucky, rentals

465
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<v Speaker 6>Aluminum shut the plant down, and so he was out

466
00:24:14.400 --> 00:24:16.319
<v Speaker 6>of a job. And he came and told me, he said,

467
00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:18.759
<v Speaker 6>let me tell you something, son. He said, you go

468
00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:20.799
<v Speaker 6>up there to Kentucky and you better get a job

469
00:24:21.440 --> 00:24:24.680
<v Speaker 6>on the side because I can't said you nothing, wow

470
00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:28.440
<v Speaker 6>and did you but then but you never believe this.

471
00:24:28.960 --> 00:24:33.079
<v Speaker 6>Jeff Van Note he was at Kentucky you know, ahead

472
00:24:33.079 --> 00:24:36.279
<v Speaker 6>of being year and his daddy had a business and

473
00:24:36.400 --> 00:24:40.039
<v Speaker 6>he hired my dad until he retired. Did not know

474
00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:44.680
<v Speaker 6>that that was really Yeah, Yeah, Jeff's dad hired my

475
00:24:44.880 --> 00:24:48.680
<v Speaker 6>dad and that's safety man and he worked there for

476
00:24:49.079 --> 00:24:52.000
<v Speaker 6>until he was sixty seven years old and retired.

477
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<v Speaker 3>You know, wow, it was not Note was part of

478
00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:57.920
<v Speaker 3>our broadcast crew forever. He's a dear friend. I did

479
00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:01.079
<v Speaker 3>not know that. That's a great story. We're talking with

480
00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:02.319
<v Speaker 3>Dickey Lyons Sor.

481
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<v Speaker 2>He is part of the SEC Football Legends Class of

482
00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:09.640
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty four. You'll be honored at the SEC Football

483
00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Championship Game coming up in December when we come back

484
00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:15.400
<v Speaker 2>with Chad Moore with the SEC Legend Here in the

485
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<v Speaker 2>Big Moon Sider six thirty WLAP. Welcome back to the

486
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<v Speaker 2>Big bon Sider. We're chatting with Dickey Lyons Senior, who

487
00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:25.480
<v Speaker 2>is known for not just being the father of Dickey

488
00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Lions Junior, the standing slot receiver for Rich Brooks's teams

489
00:25:29.440 --> 00:25:33.000
<v Speaker 2>back in the mid adds, but the Dickey Senior was

490
00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:36.079
<v Speaker 2>one of the greatest all around players in the history

491
00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:38.880
<v Speaker 2>of college football, not just UK football.

492
00:25:38.960 --> 00:25:39.519
<v Speaker 3>He did it all.

493
00:25:39.920 --> 00:25:42.400
<v Speaker 2>He was an offensive back, a defensive back, a punter,

494
00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:46.000
<v Speaker 2>a kicker, a return specialist. Still holds at least one

495
00:25:46.079 --> 00:25:50.240
<v Speaker 2>record for the longest punt return in UK history ninety

496
00:25:50.319 --> 00:25:54.279
<v Speaker 2>seven yards. But he has been selected as part of

497
00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:59.160
<v Speaker 2>the SEC Legends class. Each school has a former player

498
00:25:59.319 --> 00:26:04.680
<v Speaker 2>or coach introduced at halftime of the SEC football Championship game,

499
00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:07.319
<v Speaker 2>and in my mind, it's about time that Dickie Lyon

500
00:26:07.440 --> 00:26:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Senior will be introduced in Atlanta coming up in December.

501
00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:12.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you had a chance to look

502
00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:14.720
<v Speaker 2>at this list, because it's pretty impressive.

503
00:26:15.400 --> 00:26:18.960
<v Speaker 6>I did look at it, Uh, not really really, you know,

504
00:26:19.039 --> 00:26:23.640
<v Speaker 6>I didn't see everybody, but you know, I didn't even

505
00:26:23.720 --> 00:26:26.440
<v Speaker 6>know they did that. Yeah, you know that's how out

506
00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:28.839
<v Speaker 6>of the out of the pocket I've did. And uh

507
00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:32.240
<v Speaker 6>but when they when they called me and told me,

508
00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:34.839
<v Speaker 6>you know, I was lik in shock, you know. But

509
00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:38.160
<v Speaker 6>it's it's really great because we're looking forward to going

510
00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:41.000
<v Speaker 6>coming up to Lexington. They want me to come up

511
00:26:41.079 --> 00:26:43.839
<v Speaker 6>for the Louisville game. Good and they're going to introduce

512
00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:46.319
<v Speaker 6>me at halftime. And then the next weekend we're going

513
00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:50.839
<v Speaker 6>to the championship game in in Atlanta for the SEC.

514
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:55.079
<v Speaker 6>So my wife's happy. We're getting to go someplace, you know.

515
00:26:55.799 --> 00:26:59.799
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, yeah, it's gonna be fun. Man.

516
00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I was the producer for the SEC Radio network for

517
00:27:04.119 --> 00:27:08.279
<v Speaker 2>fifteen years producing a championship game, and so I always

518
00:27:08.319 --> 00:27:11.759
<v Speaker 2>went to the banquet on Friday when they introduced the legends,

519
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:13.480
<v Speaker 2>and it was so much fun.

520
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:16.680
<v Speaker 3>I got to take my son with me several times

521
00:27:16.759 --> 00:27:16.920
<v Speaker 3>to that.

522
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:21.240
<v Speaker 2>And I know you and I waived and probably and

523
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:23.319
<v Speaker 2>we talked a little bit when your son was playing

524
00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.240
<v Speaker 2>at Kentucky. I'll tell it's such a great story with

525
00:27:26.400 --> 00:27:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Dicky Jr. And I don't know if you remember when

526
00:27:29.240 --> 00:27:31.759
<v Speaker 2>videographer and I we came to your house in Laplace

527
00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:35.039
<v Speaker 2>and interviewed you for a story for the Bill Curry

528
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:35.759
<v Speaker 2>Coaches Show.

529
00:27:36.519 --> 00:27:40.000
<v Speaker 3>And Dicky was a baby at that time. I'm pretty

530
00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:42.400
<v Speaker 3>sure I remember that.

531
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:46.599
<v Speaker 6>I remember that. And yeah that was in the late eighties, huh.

532
00:27:48.359 --> 00:27:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Or early nineties, early nineties, Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, yeah, he.

533
00:27:52.720 --> 00:27:54.359
<v Speaker 6>Was probably seven or eight years old.

534
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then he comes to Kentucky without ever having

535
00:27:57.599 --> 00:27:58.519
<v Speaker 2>visited the campus.

536
00:27:58.599 --> 00:27:59.920
<v Speaker 3>So you raised him, right, didn't you.

537
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:02.359
<v Speaker 6>That's exactly right.

538
00:28:02.559 --> 00:28:06.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, what was it like for you? What was

539
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:10.240
<v Speaker 3>it like for you as a parent to watch him play?

540
00:28:10.279 --> 00:28:12.640
<v Speaker 2>And he had unfortunately had a terrible injury as well,

541
00:28:12.759 --> 00:28:17.039
<v Speaker 2>but he not only played, Dicky, but he excelled and

542
00:28:17.160 --> 00:28:21.079
<v Speaker 2>his teams won a lot of football games. As a dad,

543
00:28:21.400 --> 00:28:23.319
<v Speaker 2>I was a high school football dad. But what was

544
00:28:23.359 --> 00:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>that like for you, as a former player to watch that?

545
00:28:28.839 --> 00:28:32.359
<v Speaker 6>It was just it was unbelievable, just you know, it

546
00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:36.079
<v Speaker 6>just was just fake all the time. And just can't

547
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 6>believe that my little boy was out there playing for Kentucky,

548
00:28:39.799 --> 00:28:44.240
<v Speaker 6>you know. And but like you said, Rich Brooks, I'll

549
00:28:44.279 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Speaker 6>tell you one of the greatest guys that I've ever met.

550
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 6>He was so good with with Dicky. As a matter

551
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:53.960
<v Speaker 6>of fact, he he's the reason why he did good.

552
00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:56.880
<v Speaker 6>He he knew how to how to take care of it.

553
00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:01.400
<v Speaker 6>You know, he disciplined the him and and you know,

554
00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:04.240
<v Speaker 6>he wasn't going to school a lot when he first

555
00:29:04.319 --> 00:29:07.000
<v Speaker 6>went up there. So I went up there one time

556
00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 6>and me and Coach Brooks was in the office and

557
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:11.599
<v Speaker 6>he looked at me and he told me, he said, Dickey,

558
00:29:11.960 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 6>he said, I'm going to kick him off the team

559
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:18.039
<v Speaker 6>and he's not doing anything. And this was like in January.

560
00:29:18.839 --> 00:29:20.759
<v Speaker 6>He said, he ain't doing anything till he get the

561
00:29:20.839 --> 00:29:21.720
<v Speaker 6>school work done.

562
00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

563
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.039
<v Speaker 6>And I said, I said, go to a coach. I said,

564
00:29:25.079 --> 00:29:27.880
<v Speaker 6>take care of business. And that was the best thing

565
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:30.160
<v Speaker 6>that ever happened to Dickey because he was a smart kid.

566
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.400
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, and he got and he was He did

567
00:29:33.480 --> 00:29:36.880
<v Speaker 6>great the rest of the time at Kentucky. But coach

568
00:29:36.960 --> 00:29:38.759
<v Speaker 6>Brooks really knew how to hand me, you know.

569
00:29:39.559 --> 00:29:40.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And you know it's funny.

570
00:29:40.880 --> 00:29:44.400
<v Speaker 2>I remember when Rich was hired and hearing all these

571
00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.880
<v Speaker 2>so called experts saying, all those kids won't play for him,

572
00:29:46.920 --> 00:29:50.640
<v Speaker 2>he's too old. But I produced his Coaches Show, I'm

573
00:29:50.680 --> 00:29:53.640
<v Speaker 2>telling you, man, And you know this, those players loved him,

574
00:29:54.000 --> 00:29:57.200
<v Speaker 2>and part of that was his brand of tough love.

575
00:29:57.359 --> 00:30:01.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, players seek discipline. I know you had fun

576
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:05.279
<v Speaker 2>playing college football, you had your share of fun, but

577
00:30:05.559 --> 00:30:07.480
<v Speaker 2>you knew what kind of discipline it took as well,

578
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 2>didn't you.

579
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:14.519
<v Speaker 6>Absolutely, and coach Brooks knew how to handle people. And

580
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 6>you know that's why I hate to really call these

581
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 6>guys coaches, because there's so much more than that. Yeah,

582
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 6>you know, I mean the guy we have now, he's

583
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:27.960
<v Speaker 6>probably one of the best we've ever had. And you know,

584
00:30:28.599 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 6>I know he handled these kids. It's just that's what

585
00:30:32.119 --> 00:30:36.240
<v Speaker 6>they do. You know. You think about it. You got seventeen, eighteen,

586
00:30:36.359 --> 00:30:38.759
<v Speaker 6>nineteen year old kids, they're going all over. They got

587
00:30:38.839 --> 00:30:40.359
<v Speaker 6>to get him to go to class, You got to

588
00:30:40.440 --> 00:30:43.119
<v Speaker 6>keep them straight, you got to get in shape. I mean,

589
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:46.200
<v Speaker 6>it's more of a father than it is a coach.

590
00:30:46.359 --> 00:30:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you got you gotta make them do things

591
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 2>that ordinarily they wouldn't do. One.

592
00:30:52.319 --> 00:30:54.200
<v Speaker 3>No one can push themselves as hard as a.

593
00:30:54.200 --> 00:30:59.559
<v Speaker 6>Coach can, right, That's exactly right. And that's the biggest

594
00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 6>thing about being a coach is you know, to mentally

595
00:31:03.519 --> 00:31:07.720
<v Speaker 6>get the kids ready to play, you know. And so

596
00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:10.799
<v Speaker 6>and I think that this guy we got now is

597
00:31:11.440 --> 00:31:14.559
<v Speaker 6>one of the best, and Coach Brooks was, you know,

598
00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:16.839
<v Speaker 6>I think they they're gonna do well.

599
00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:21.119
<v Speaker 2>You know. Well, getting back to your your honor as

600
00:31:21.160 --> 00:31:23.319
<v Speaker 2>one of the SEC legends, as we talk with Dickey

601
00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Lyon Senior, he'll be honored at the he's coming up

602
00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:28.039
<v Speaker 2>for a game for the Louisville game, as he said,

603
00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 2>and then he'll be honored at halftime at the SEC

604
00:31:30.680 --> 00:31:33.839
<v Speaker 2>Football Championship game, and of course the league now includes

605
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Texas and Oklahoma. Texas Vince Young is is he quote

606
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:43.720
<v Speaker 2>unquote SEC legend from Texas, Barry Switzer from Oklahoma. But

607
00:31:43.839 --> 00:31:47.240
<v Speaker 2>there have been so many changes now in college football,

608
00:31:47.359 --> 00:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>and we could talk all day about that. But tell

609
00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:54.720
<v Speaker 2>me about SEC football now compared to where when you played.

610
00:31:54.799 --> 00:31:57.400
<v Speaker 2>And first of all, I know, the facilities at Kentucky

611
00:31:58.039 --> 00:32:00.200
<v Speaker 2>were next to nothing. They were next to nothing when

612
00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:03.319
<v Speaker 2>I got there in seventy three, much less when you played,

613
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>and now they're they're palatial compared to that. But tell

614
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 2>me about the SEC now versus when you played.

615
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, it's that's all we needed is get

616
00:32:14.759 --> 00:32:18.240
<v Speaker 6>Texas and Oklahoma, right, you know, it's just you know,

617
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:23.079
<v Speaker 6>we've got Alabama, Tennessee, you know Alburn, you know Florida

618
00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:25.640
<v Speaker 6>and all those teams. I mean, it's got to be

619
00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.920
<v Speaker 6>the dupest league in the world. You don't get a break, man.

620
00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 6>And now Vanderbilt is playing play lights out. You know,

621
00:32:32.839 --> 00:32:38.119
<v Speaker 6>their quarterback is playing he is something else, and so

622
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:40.599
<v Speaker 6>I mean you just don't ever get a break. It's

623
00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:43.519
<v Speaker 6>like being in the NFL. I mean, every week you

624
00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:45.440
<v Speaker 6>got to tee it up, you know. I mean, you

625
00:32:45.599 --> 00:32:49.279
<v Speaker 6>can't you can't take a break, you don't get a breathering. Yeah.

626
00:32:49.640 --> 00:32:54.519
<v Speaker 6>And unfortunately right now, you know, because I watched Kentucky

627
00:32:54.599 --> 00:32:57.920
<v Speaker 6>every time they play in our injuries. It's just saying

628
00:32:58.000 --> 00:33:01.279
<v Speaker 6>that we've had so many injuries and it's hopefully they

629
00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:05.160
<v Speaker 6>can get everybody keeled after this or most of them.

630
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.559
<v Speaker 6>We had a bide week, so and we're playing against

631
00:33:08.599 --> 00:33:11.599
<v Speaker 6>Auburn coming up, so that's and they're not, you know,

632
00:33:12.519 --> 00:33:14.720
<v Speaker 6>doing real well this year, so hopefully we can get

633
00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:20.519
<v Speaker 6>on the winning track again, you know. But it's just tough, man.

634
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.640
<v Speaker 6>I mean, all the teams now, you've got so many

635
00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:28.200
<v Speaker 6>good players, and I mean it's just amazing to watch

636
00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:33.920
<v Speaker 6>these games, you know. And so I know that we're

637
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:37.839
<v Speaker 6>in a position right now that you can recruit nationwide

638
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:41.119
<v Speaker 6>now and you can pick up kids off of other teams.

639
00:33:41.200 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 6>I mean, there's so many ways to do it. Yeah,

640
00:33:43.759 --> 00:33:47.799
<v Speaker 6>and it really helps teams like Kentucky Vanderbilt, you know,

641
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:53.160
<v Speaker 6>the teams that were lower years ago I played, you know,

642
00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:58.640
<v Speaker 6>I mean, we we would always like Vanderbilt was always dark.

643
00:33:58.720 --> 00:34:00.720
<v Speaker 6>We knew we were gonna win that, you know what

644
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:04.119
<v Speaker 6>I mean. Yeah, but it's not like that anymore.

645
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Man.

646
00:34:04.480 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 6>You gotta see it up every week.

647
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:08.679
<v Speaker 2>It's like I said the week at the Vandy game,

648
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:12.480
<v Speaker 2>Vandys people knew they could be Kentucky. I mean, that

649
00:34:13.000 --> 00:34:16.159
<v Speaker 2>series has been so even through the years. It's pretty amazing.

650
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Got a few minutes left with Dickey lyon Senior SEC

651
00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.559
<v Speaker 2>Legend this season. I talked to you about this when

652
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>we interviewed you many many years ago, but I got

653
00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:27.519
<v Speaker 2>to ask you again about you were turned a punt

654
00:34:27.559 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>against Houston in nineteen sixty six ninety seven yards for

655
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:33.920
<v Speaker 2>a touchdown. I don't know if that's ever going to

656
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.840
<v Speaker 2>be broken as a UK record. It was an NCA

657
00:34:37.000 --> 00:34:39.320
<v Speaker 2>record for a long time. Somebody broke it with ninety nine.

658
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:43.960
<v Speaker 2>But why did you decide on the three yard line

659
00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:46.760
<v Speaker 2>to field a punt where you know, we'd always been

660
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:48.719
<v Speaker 2>told inside the ten you let it go to the

661
00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:50.960
<v Speaker 2>end zone, but you decided otherwise.

662
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.559
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember that play? I'm sure you do.

663
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:58.039
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, yeah. Well my attitude was this, it didn't

664
00:34:58.039 --> 00:35:00.480
<v Speaker 6>make any difference where that ball went. Had to get

665
00:35:00.519 --> 00:35:03.679
<v Speaker 6>it and score, you know, And that's what I tried

666
00:35:03.719 --> 00:35:06.159
<v Speaker 6>to do on ever play. If they'll win the end zone,

667
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:09.840
<v Speaker 6>i'd of got it ran out. You know. I hated.

668
00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:12.760
<v Speaker 6>I used to tell coach Bradshaw, I said, I hated

669
00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:17.400
<v Speaker 6>to make those fair catches. You know, it just didn't

670
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.760
<v Speaker 6>make any sense to me. And even when I got

671
00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.119
<v Speaker 6>into pro ball. They the first game we played against

672
00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:27.119
<v Speaker 6>the Falcons, the coach got mad at me because I

673
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 6>was catching ever football and trying to run it. I

674
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 6>told him, I said, what the hell is the difference

675
00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:35.480
<v Speaker 6>if I gave one yard or four yards? You know,

676
00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.840
<v Speaker 6>at least I got a shot. You know, if my

677
00:35:37.960 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 6>fair catching, I got no shot. So my attitude was

678
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:46.800
<v Speaker 6>get it and go. And so I'm glad. I'm glad.

679
00:35:46.840 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 6>I was like that.

680
00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, we talked about the changes in college football, and

681
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I always hated for players of your generation that the

682
00:35:55.079 --> 00:35:58.639
<v Speaker 2>knee injury you suffered, I'm not exactly sure what it was,

683
00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:00.519
<v Speaker 2>but I'm willing to bet they could have fixed you

684
00:36:00.679 --> 00:36:03.280
<v Speaker 2>up and had you back the following season if that

685
00:36:03.320 --> 00:36:06.039
<v Speaker 2>had happened today as opposed to way back in the day.

686
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.119
<v Speaker 3>I know you don't linger on stuff like that, but

687
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:09.840
<v Speaker 3>that's just where we are, isn't it.

688
00:36:11.440 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, well, see, they didn't have the arthoscopic surgery

689
00:36:15.920 --> 00:36:20.039
<v Speaker 6>and so when you got a niece. I tore cartlage

690
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:25.119
<v Speaker 6>and then my ligament was partially torn, and so I

691
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.039
<v Speaker 6>had to get surgery and I was on crutches for

692
00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:33.639
<v Speaker 6>two weeks. And so it's such a difference like if

693
00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:36.079
<v Speaker 6>it would have been today. They fixed it in a

694
00:36:36.119 --> 00:36:38.119
<v Speaker 6>couple In a couple of weeks, you're going to be playing,

695
00:36:38.239 --> 00:36:42.480
<v Speaker 6>That's right, That's right. But I remember being on crutches

696
00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.920
<v Speaker 6>and I was standing in the end zone when Tom

697
00:36:46.000 --> 00:36:50.119
<v Speaker 6>Dempsey kicked a sixty three yard field for Detroit. Is

698
00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:53.840
<v Speaker 6>that right? I was, Yeah, there was no crutches in

699
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 6>the end zone. I couldn't believe it. That ball is

700
00:36:55.960 --> 00:36:58.599
<v Speaker 6>just barely made it over the thing. And of course

701
00:36:58.679 --> 00:37:01.440
<v Speaker 6>back then we played to the stadium, you know, yeah,

702
00:37:01.960 --> 00:37:06.880
<v Speaker 6>and the dome wouldn't build. Yeah, it's the injury. And

703
00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.559
<v Speaker 6>you know, look, Dick, I look at these every day.

704
00:37:11.480 --> 00:37:15.599
<v Speaker 6>How many injuries there are pro football, college football. It's

705
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 6>it's a it's a tough game, man, you know, and

706
00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:20.559
<v Speaker 6>if you can play for a long time, you're just

707
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.840
<v Speaker 6>really lucky, you know. I feel very fortunate they've got to.

708
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:27.039
<v Speaker 6>I went thrown through grade school, high school, college and

709
00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:30.760
<v Speaker 6>play pro ball. I mean so many guys I saw

710
00:37:30.880 --> 00:37:33.719
<v Speaker 6>in college get hurt and it was it was over.

711
00:37:34.400 --> 00:37:38.320
<v Speaker 6>I mean they were done, you know, and it's really sad.

712
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.480
<v Speaker 3>Well, but you're still you're still you're still sharp.

713
00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:45.239
<v Speaker 2>You had a career as a private investigator working for

714
00:37:45.360 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 2>insurance companies. Your kids are healthy, grand kids are great

715
00:37:49.039 --> 00:37:49.639
<v Speaker 2>grand kids.

716
00:37:49.760 --> 00:37:50.679
<v Speaker 3>So life is good.

717
00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:54.639
<v Speaker 6>Yes it is. And let me tell you something. Dick

718
00:37:55.079 --> 00:37:57.559
<v Speaker 6>I got a little one called Dickie Lines the third,

719
00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:01.360
<v Speaker 6>twelve years old, and that's a little son of a gun.

720
00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 8>Was that right?

721
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 3>That's great?

722
00:38:03.440 --> 00:38:06.639
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, matter of fact, I'm going to see tonight at

723
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:10.199
<v Speaker 6>five o'clock. Plays right here and him and not far

724
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:13.360
<v Speaker 6>from where I live. Of course, they play that flank football.

725
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:17.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah yeah, But I'm gonna tell you we ain't believe

726
00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 6>that he can run, he can catch, he throws the ball.

727
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 6>He's gonna be a good one.

728
00:38:23.000 --> 00:38:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, we'll keep an eye out for him up up

729
00:38:25.199 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 2>this way. Because Dicky Jr. Who went by Richard as

730
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:31.000
<v Speaker 2>a youngster joker, Phillips said, nope, you're gonna be Dicky.

731
00:38:32.519 --> 00:38:35.360
<v Speaker 2>He committed to the UK without having seen the campus

732
00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:38.119
<v Speaker 2>and it worked out pretty well. So hey, it's great talking.

733
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:40.039
<v Speaker 2>You're looking forward to seeing you when you come up,

734
00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:43.199
<v Speaker 2>and again, congratulations on being an SEC legend.

735
00:38:44.480 --> 00:38:46.519
<v Speaker 6>Thank you, Dereck. I appreciate the call, buddy.

736
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Coming up an hour number two, we will ship back

737
00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:52.280
<v Speaker 2>to basketball. We'll talk to unforgettable guard Sean Woods and

738
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:54.920
<v Speaker 2>to our West End Bureau chief Gary Moore. Usually do

739
00:38:55.000 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>all this on Wednesday, but we were bumped last night

740
00:38:57.320 --> 00:38:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of course a UK basketball. So that's all I am

741
00:39:00.079 --> 00:40:47.119
<v Speaker 2>on the Big Blue Siders six thirty LA. Welcome back

742
00:40:47.159 --> 00:40:49.039
<v Speaker 2>to the Big Boon Sider. Joining us now as he

743
00:40:49.119 --> 00:40:52.320
<v Speaker 2>does every Wednesday, but preempted last night by basketball is

744
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.599
<v Speaker 2>the unforgettable guard Sean Woods. His jersey hangs in the

745
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 2>rafters of rupp Uh. Coach, it was kind of predictable

746
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:03.320
<v Speaker 2>last night, and of course that Kentucky would be Kentucky Wesley.

747
00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:06.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if anybody saw a seventy one point win.

748
00:41:07.000 --> 00:41:11.280
<v Speaker 2>But in a matchup like that, You've played in games

749
00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.760
<v Speaker 2>like this, you coached in some games, in exhibition games.

750
00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 3>But what can one get What can a coach get

751
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:19.639
<v Speaker 3>out of a game like this?

752
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:24.719
<v Speaker 9>Well, uh, it actually gives you a chance to go

753
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.239
<v Speaker 9>play against somebody else, because you know your guys get

754
00:41:27.280 --> 00:41:30.400
<v Speaker 9>tired of being up on one another, So you know

755
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.199
<v Speaker 9>that that's one thing. And then also you know, you

756
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 9>go from coaching all ten guys or twelve guys guys

757
00:41:37.880 --> 00:41:40.719
<v Speaker 9>all that once to coaching five guys at a time

758
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:45.480
<v Speaker 9>against somebody else. And because you don't have you know,

759
00:41:45.679 --> 00:41:48.920
<v Speaker 9>like a Scotter report. More so because that team you know,

760
00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:50.960
<v Speaker 9>hasn't played a game yet unless they got a bunch

761
00:41:51.000 --> 00:41:54.000
<v Speaker 9>of guys back from their year pre you know previously.

762
00:41:54.679 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 9>You will just want to see where your guys are,

763
00:41:56.400 --> 00:41:58.519
<v Speaker 9>you know, how they how they respond to different things,

764
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:05.400
<v Speaker 9>does your stuff work from you know afterwise you know,

765
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:08.639
<v Speaker 9>rebounded margins, you know, you know you want to see

766
00:42:08.639 --> 00:42:10.719
<v Speaker 9>how bad you know, how much you can you know, uh,

767
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:14.800
<v Speaker 9>if you're if, if you're if, if your plays work,

768
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:18.400
<v Speaker 9>how good you are defensively? It just gives you a gauge.

769
00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:21.559
<v Speaker 9>But sometimes you know you can be full because of

770
00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:24.559
<v Speaker 9>the competition. But at least you can see how some

771
00:42:24.719 --> 00:42:25.480
<v Speaker 9>guys are falling.

772
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 2>The lights come on, Yeah, and all these guys have

773
00:42:28.559 --> 00:42:31.280
<v Speaker 2>played with a couple of exceptions with the bright lights on.

774
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.280
<v Speaker 2>You know, you got three true freshmen out there, so

775
00:42:35.480 --> 00:42:38.119
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine that would be an issue. But the

776
00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.760
<v Speaker 2>bright lights at Fairleigh Dickinson are different from the bright

777
00:42:41.880 --> 00:42:43.159
<v Speaker 2>lights and election and aren't they.

778
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:48.360
<v Speaker 9>Oh no doubt about it, you know. And uh, I

779
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:50.639
<v Speaker 9>don't know what the crowd was like, but but you

780
00:42:50.719 --> 00:42:52.679
<v Speaker 9>know it's still reperena, you know what I mean. And

781
00:42:53.599 --> 00:42:56.880
<v Speaker 9>the anticipation is unbearable.

782
00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:57.840
<v Speaker 3>You know, I remember my.

783
00:42:57.920 --> 00:43:01.159
<v Speaker 9>Freshman year, my first Yip playing at least I set

784
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:03.480
<v Speaker 9>out and got I got a good taste of it.

785
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.400
<v Speaker 9>But still, you know, leading up to your first game

786
00:43:07.519 --> 00:43:11.159
<v Speaker 9>playing in Rep. Aernas is you know a lot of

787
00:43:11.159 --> 00:43:13.000
<v Speaker 9>people don't get a chance to do that. That's why

788
00:43:13.039 --> 00:43:13.760
<v Speaker 9>it's so special.

789
00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Well, when Mark Pope came out, the ovation he got

790
00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:19.800
<v Speaker 2>was greater than any player, and they players got a

791
00:43:19.880 --> 00:43:20.639
<v Speaker 2>nice ovations.

792
00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.639
<v Speaker 3>I guess that was to be expected.

793
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:26.880
<v Speaker 9>Though, right, Oh, no doubt about it. You know, everybody's anticipating, excited.

794
00:43:26.920 --> 00:43:29.000
<v Speaker 9>You know, I can sect the fans other appreciation is

795
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:34.000
<v Speaker 9>off the change. So with saying that, you know, they've

796
00:43:34.079 --> 00:43:36.480
<v Speaker 9>they've gotten used hopefully they've gotten used to it. But

797
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:39.239
<v Speaker 9>because they played a couple of games in front of

798
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:42.519
<v Speaker 9>some people and things like that already, now it's the

799
00:43:42.599 --> 00:43:45.679
<v Speaker 9>real deal, you know, and you got to really really

800
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.039
<v Speaker 9>produce and that you know, everybody in that program is

801
00:43:49.119 --> 00:43:52.320
<v Speaker 9>under the gun because of so much anticipation and so

802
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:55.880
<v Speaker 9>much not knowing, because it's a new staff and pretty

803
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:56.840
<v Speaker 9>much a brand new team.

804
00:43:57.480 --> 00:44:01.159
<v Speaker 2>More than half of their shots were three point attempts.

805
00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:01.760
<v Speaker 3>They put up.

806
00:44:01.719 --> 00:44:04.719
<v Speaker 2>Seventy six total, forty two from beyond the yark and

807
00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.760
<v Speaker 2>yet sean because they hit so well, thirty two assists

808
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.320
<v Speaker 2>on forty eight made baskets. Now, you're a guy as

809
00:44:12.360 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 2>a coach who appreciates a good assist, and you were

810
00:44:15.039 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 2>the coach on the floor racking up assists as a

811
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:17.800
<v Speaker 2>point guard.

812
00:44:18.039 --> 00:44:19.280
<v Speaker 3>You got to like those numbers.

813
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.079
<v Speaker 9>Oh, I love those numbers that you know that that's

814
00:44:22.079 --> 00:44:25.079
<v Speaker 9>beautiful basketball. I don't even have to watch the game

815
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 9>and you just tell me, you know, they'll give me

816
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 9>those numbers right there and I can just say it's

817
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:31.280
<v Speaker 9>a few. There was a beautiful game, especially from the

818
00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 9>offense side of the ball.

819
00:44:33.559 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Probably can't expect that in the regular season. But that's

820
00:44:36.400 --> 00:44:37.360
<v Speaker 2>a good start, isn't it.

821
00:44:38.280 --> 00:44:40.719
<v Speaker 9>Oh, no doubt about it. You know, let me tell

822
00:44:40.719 --> 00:44:43.280
<v Speaker 9>you something like a wins and wins a win, Yeah,

823
00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.840
<v Speaker 9>and if you can win and continue to grow and

824
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.280
<v Speaker 9>get better, that that's even better. You know, I'd rather

825
00:44:49.360 --> 00:44:54.840
<v Speaker 9>go in that locker room, in that film room, you know,

826
00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 9>really going over some things, correcting some things after win,

827
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:00.000
<v Speaker 9>more so than the lost.

828
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:03.800
<v Speaker 3>US you mentioned earlier, running their stuff, running their offense.

829
00:45:03.880 --> 00:45:04.679
<v Speaker 3>I love how coach you.

830
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Say, just just run your stuff, this analytics driven offense

831
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:15.559
<v Speaker 2>that that Mark Pope Favors has worked at prior stops

832
00:45:15.599 --> 00:45:18.039
<v Speaker 2>at Utah, Valley State, at Brigham A lot of schools,

833
00:45:18.559 --> 00:45:20.719
<v Speaker 2>UH lean on analytics quite a bit.

834
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:22.960
<v Speaker 3>They like to put up a lot of threes.

835
00:45:23.639 --> 00:45:27.679
<v Speaker 2>Realistically, what do you think Kentucky fans can expect from

836
00:45:27.760 --> 00:45:32.000
<v Speaker 2>this team hitting putting up those those three Because the

837
00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:35.400
<v Speaker 2>early Patino teams shot a lot of threes, but I

838
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:37.639
<v Speaker 2>felt like those teams had to shoot a lot of

839
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 2>threes to mask other problems.

840
00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:43.480
<v Speaker 9>You know, well, right now, I think that that may

841
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:45.920
<v Speaker 9>be the case for this team. You know, from a

842
00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:49.400
<v Speaker 9>talent standpoint of not having the guys that you really want,

843
00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 9>you know, you got to do something to put up points.

844
00:45:52.119 --> 00:45:56.679
<v Speaker 9>You know, each team is different, you know, from a

845
00:45:56.719 --> 00:45:59.159
<v Speaker 9>personnel standpoint. You know, you may have guys that you

846
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:02.000
<v Speaker 9>may you may crew the kid that's a pretty a

847
00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.599
<v Speaker 9>really good low post player, you know, and he's probably

848
00:46:05.679 --> 00:46:09.440
<v Speaker 9>your your most consistent scorer. So you you know, you

849
00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 9>favor to you know, the personnel that you have on

850
00:46:11.840 --> 00:46:14.679
<v Speaker 9>your team right now, the best way for them to

851
00:46:14.760 --> 00:46:17.599
<v Speaker 9>score points. And that's the way he recruited so far

852
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 9>with his team is is getting shooters, and uh, threes

853
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:27.480
<v Speaker 9>are more than two's, but threes are a lower percentage

854
00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:29.840
<v Speaker 9>than a two, So sooner or later, you know you're

855
00:46:29.840 --> 00:46:32.719
<v Speaker 9>gonna have to come up with something to get higher

856
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:36.199
<v Speaker 9>percent of shot and uh, you know, hopefully he can

857
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:37.719
<v Speaker 9>figure that out as the year goes on.

858
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:40.840
<v Speaker 2>We were talking about point guards, and of course it

859
00:46:41.360 --> 00:46:44.599
<v Speaker 2>appears to Mott Butler will be the guy who spends

860
00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:46.480
<v Speaker 2>the most time and put the ball in his hands,

861
00:46:46.519 --> 00:46:50.119
<v Speaker 2>but not a lot because Pope favors the attack where

862
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.440
<v Speaker 2>there isn't a lot of dribbling, of course, and he

863
00:46:53.519 --> 00:46:55.480
<v Speaker 2>doesn't want the ball to sit in anybody saying I

864
00:46:55.519 --> 00:46:58.800
<v Speaker 2>can't remember the term that Caliperi used to use for

865
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:01.679
<v Speaker 2>when the ball would would spend too much.

866
00:47:01.559 --> 00:47:02.760
<v Speaker 3>Time in some of these hands.

867
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Uh, but Butler is a proven commodity, a kid who's

868
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:09.840
<v Speaker 2>played in the Final four, who uh played well at

869
00:47:09.920 --> 00:47:12.239
<v Speaker 2>San Diego State. I don't know how much a chance

870
00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:13.800
<v Speaker 2>you've had to watch him in action.

871
00:47:13.960 --> 00:47:16.960
<v Speaker 3>But that's that's a huge plus, isn't it. To have

872
00:47:17.000 --> 00:47:20.559
<v Speaker 3>a guy like that as the head of the snake, Oh,

873
00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:21.400
<v Speaker 3>no doubt about it.

874
00:47:21.519 --> 00:47:24.039
<v Speaker 9>And to have the experience that he has, you know,

875
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:26.280
<v Speaker 9>at the point guard spot. You know that that's one

876
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:29.679
<v Speaker 9>position that can't go bad. You know, that has to

877
00:47:29.760 --> 00:47:33.159
<v Speaker 9>be solid for you to have a chance. And you

878
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 9>know that's one of the reasons why Kintucky does have

879
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:39.159
<v Speaker 9>a chance, because they do have a veteran point guard

880
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:41.840
<v Speaker 9>that could play both sides of the floor. He's a

881
00:47:42.039 --> 00:47:46.119
<v Speaker 9>he's a really good defender. You know, he's he's been

882
00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:48.639
<v Speaker 9>at the you know, he's helped his team reach higher

883
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:51.559
<v Speaker 9>heights of San Diego State. You know, the experience he

884
00:47:51.679 --> 00:47:56.800
<v Speaker 9>has is impeccable, and you know that that's a plus

885
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:01.360
<v Speaker 9>for us. You know, now I don't know leadership qualities,

886
00:48:01.400 --> 00:48:04.280
<v Speaker 9>but man, a person of that stature that has that

887
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:07.679
<v Speaker 9>type of experience, in that type of talent, you have

888
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:11.639
<v Speaker 9>a chance. And I mean that was a good not

889
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:13.079
<v Speaker 9>a good get, but a great get.

890
00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 2>But that well, I'll rattle off his stash for you.

891
00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.360
<v Speaker 2>And again, if you're if you're just going blindly into

892
00:48:19.400 --> 00:48:22.039
<v Speaker 2>this game. You hear about a guy who played twenty

893
00:48:22.119 --> 00:48:27.159
<v Speaker 2>five minutes, hit five of eight, eleven points, six rebounds,

894
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:32.599
<v Speaker 2>six assists, six steals, a couple of blocks, and was

895
00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:34.599
<v Speaker 2>tied for the team lead if you're a plus minus

896
00:48:34.679 --> 00:48:39.400
<v Speaker 2>guy at forty six. Again, it's against Kentucky Wesleyan in

897
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 2>an exhibition game. But man in the backyard, those are

898
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>great numbers.

899
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:49.039
<v Speaker 9>Yet it is and it's promising, you know what I mean? Now,

900
00:48:49.280 --> 00:48:50.840
<v Speaker 9>you know, we just got to be consistent with it

901
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.639
<v Speaker 9>no matter who we play. But you know, he's a grinder.

902
00:48:53.679 --> 00:48:57.199
<v Speaker 9>He's a tough kid. Like I said, he's been through

903
00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:01.039
<v Speaker 9>the wars, and hopefully he can get everybody else to

904
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:06.320
<v Speaker 9>settle down and have his tough mental state. Uh when

905
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.280
<v Speaker 9>they start playing some guys, some heavy hitters.

906
00:49:08.480 --> 00:49:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and no disrespect to the conference he played in.

907
00:49:11.519 --> 00:49:13.679
<v Speaker 2>And again, as you said, he played in big games

908
00:49:13.719 --> 00:49:16.599
<v Speaker 2>in the NCA tournament. But he's about to run into

909
00:49:16.639 --> 00:49:20.039
<v Speaker 2>some meet grinders will shoot. Playing against Duke is one thing,

910
00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 2>but getting into the SEC with her. They're not afraid

911
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.559
<v Speaker 2>of Kentucky anymore. In the SEC, they can't wait for

912
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:26.960
<v Speaker 2>you k to get there, can they.

913
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:30.599
<v Speaker 9>I'll tell you what just talk on the street. They're

914
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:33.159
<v Speaker 9>they're licking their chops to play for Kentucky. Some of

915
00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 9>these coaches that I know, not only because it's a new, new,

916
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:40.519
<v Speaker 9>new guy, is just the fact that, you know, I'm

917
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:43.239
<v Speaker 9>gonna be honest with you, it's even playing field anymore.

918
00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:43.519
<v Speaker 6>Dick.

919
00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, you know, you know all these other schools are

920
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:50.480
<v Speaker 9>getting just as good a players or even better uh

921
00:49:50.639 --> 00:49:53.960
<v Speaker 9>than Kentucky right now. And uh, you know, you can

922
00:49:54.039 --> 00:49:55.719
<v Speaker 9>say all you want. You know, I'm a coach, and

923
00:49:56.199 --> 00:49:58.519
<v Speaker 9>I think i'm a pretty dog on good one. But

924
00:49:58.840 --> 00:50:00.559
<v Speaker 9>like I said before, it's not a about the exit

925
00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:02.880
<v Speaker 9>and those about the Jim and Joe's. You can see

926
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:05.360
<v Speaker 9>some of these some of these other coaches are kind

927
00:50:05.400 --> 00:50:08.360
<v Speaker 9>of stepping down a little bit because of the landscape

928
00:50:08.360 --> 00:50:11.639
<v Speaker 9>of college athletics. You know, you can't keep a kid,

929
00:50:12.039 --> 00:50:13.880
<v Speaker 9>you know, how can you build a tradition? How can

930
00:50:13.960 --> 00:50:17.840
<v Speaker 9>you build culture right when a guy's leaving? So you know,

931
00:50:18.199 --> 00:50:21.320
<v Speaker 9>it's about stay power and it's just not a not

932
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:24.480
<v Speaker 9>a lot of that in college athletics anymore.

933
00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:24.679
<v Speaker 5>So.

934
00:50:25.760 --> 00:50:27.880
<v Speaker 9>And the thing about our team, the makeup of our

935
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:31.360
<v Speaker 9>team here is I think he got some good guys,

936
00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:33.599
<v Speaker 9>you know, from you know the time he took the job.

937
00:50:34.320 --> 00:50:35.559
<v Speaker 9>But he's going to have to do it all over

938
00:50:35.599 --> 00:50:37.880
<v Speaker 9>again next year because of you know, all the upper

939
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.519
<v Speaker 9>classms that he has. So that's not fun, you know,

940
00:50:40.800 --> 00:50:43.800
<v Speaker 9>you know, trying to sign you know, two or three pieces,

941
00:50:43.880 --> 00:50:46.480
<v Speaker 9>that's one thing. To sign pretty much seventy percent of

942
00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 9>your team every year, that's that's no fun.

943
00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:49.760
<v Speaker 3>Sean Woods does my guess.

944
00:50:49.840 --> 00:50:52.039
<v Speaker 2>We'll come back and talk to the Unforgettable Guard in

945
00:50:52.159 --> 00:50:53.920
<v Speaker 2>just a minute here on the Big Blue Sider six

946
00:50:54.039 --> 00:50:57.639
<v Speaker 2>thirty WLAP. Welcome back for talking with Sean Woods, the

947
00:50:57.719 --> 00:51:00.199
<v Speaker 2>Unforgettable Guard. We travel to meet you in every Wednesday day.

948
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:03.639
<v Speaker 2>And of course the Wildcats have blown out Kentucky, Wesleyan

949
00:51:03.800 --> 00:51:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and Cato. State of Minnesota is next. That is one

950
00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:10.159
<v Speaker 2>of the better small college programs. And again, Sean, it

951
00:51:10.199 --> 00:51:13.320
<v Speaker 2>will be a chance for Mark Pope to as you

952
00:51:13.400 --> 00:51:17.039
<v Speaker 2>said one of your opening comments, was looking at combinations.

953
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:19.639
<v Speaker 2>And he's got a lot of data, as he said,

954
00:51:19.679 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 2>a lot of video to study, and so much of

955
00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:25.760
<v Speaker 2>that is vital in these games, isn't it where you

956
00:51:25.840 --> 00:51:28.000
<v Speaker 2>can plug and play, it's not the same as it

957
00:51:28.119 --> 00:51:30.719
<v Speaker 2>is in practice. Is it trying to figure out which

958
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 2>guy to match with, which which combinations of lineups to play.

959
00:51:36.719 --> 00:51:39.039
<v Speaker 9>You're right about that, Dick. I mean it's you know,

960
00:51:39.320 --> 00:51:40.960
<v Speaker 9>when you got a bunch of new guys, you don't

961
00:51:41.000 --> 00:51:44.119
<v Speaker 9>know who's who. You know, you've never only you probably

962
00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:46.119
<v Speaker 9>coach maybe a couple of them, but that's it. So

963
00:51:46.280 --> 00:51:48.960
<v Speaker 9>you don't know who's who, how they're gonna respond in

964
00:51:49.039 --> 00:51:54.119
<v Speaker 9>certain situations, so and so forth. So you know that

965
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:57.079
<v Speaker 9>whole program is learning each other in top to bottom.

966
00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:00.440
<v Speaker 9>You know, you're learning, I mean beyond with I mean,

967
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:02.760
<v Speaker 9>you learn your coach, his staff, you learn your player.

968
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:07.440
<v Speaker 9>You know, you're trying to establish a culture, and you

969
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:11.239
<v Speaker 9>got to keep your eyes wide open to every little

970
00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:14.800
<v Speaker 9>detail until you establish that culture and get it going

971
00:52:14.880 --> 00:52:16.880
<v Speaker 9>the way you know you really wanted to go on

972
00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:22.239
<v Speaker 9>a regular basis. And right now, you know, I took

973
00:52:22.320 --> 00:52:25.280
<v Speaker 9>my hat off to him because you're still trying to

974
00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:27.440
<v Speaker 9>find out. It's like when coach Patino first got us.

975
00:52:27.599 --> 00:52:29.079
<v Speaker 9>You know, he didn't know what to expect, what the

976
00:52:29.159 --> 00:52:33.239
<v Speaker 9>lights came on. You know, he didn't think John Pelford

977
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 9>be be as good as he did was you know

978
00:52:35.280 --> 00:52:38.559
<v Speaker 9>those guys, but we you know they food him and

979
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:43.480
<v Speaker 9>hopefully these guys can do the same thing, you know,

980
00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:47.239
<v Speaker 9>coming from their respective place in major places that they

981
00:52:47.280 --> 00:52:47.679
<v Speaker 9>came from.

982
00:52:48.159 --> 00:52:51.119
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I heard Seam Newton talk about this first,

983
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.719
<v Speaker 2>and a lot of other guys chimed in. But when

984
00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Patino inherited you, guys, what he inherited were kids who

985
00:52:58.119 --> 00:53:01.000
<v Speaker 2>might not have been five stars. Are guys ready for

986
00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:06.320
<v Speaker 2>the NBA draft, the unforgettables plus Reggie, you guys knew

987
00:53:06.320 --> 00:53:10.960
<v Speaker 2>how to play basketball. I mean, it sounds overly simplistic,

988
00:53:11.039 --> 00:53:13.079
<v Speaker 2>but that's a huge plus, isn't it.

989
00:53:14.800 --> 00:53:18.079
<v Speaker 9>Big huge plus? You know, as a coach, I much

990
00:53:18.199 --> 00:53:21.000
<v Speaker 9>rather take a kid that's not as athletic, but he

991
00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:23.639
<v Speaker 9>has to have some type of athleticism. But give me

992
00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 9>a good basketball player that loves the gym. I'll take

993
00:53:28.679 --> 00:53:31.519
<v Speaker 9>that kid over a highly talented kid that hasn't been

994
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:32.760
<v Speaker 9>coached that's very raw.

995
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.840
<v Speaker 3>In a New York minute, yeah, good choice of a

996
00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:37.679
<v Speaker 3>New York minute.

997
00:53:37.760 --> 00:53:40.559
<v Speaker 9>Yeah, in a New York minute. I mean, and seriously,

998
00:53:40.599 --> 00:53:44.920
<v Speaker 9>because you know, sometimes these kids, now they may get

999
00:53:45.000 --> 00:53:48.519
<v Speaker 9>frustrated because they're not picking up as as quick as

1000
00:53:48.519 --> 00:53:50.559
<v Speaker 9>they want to. And then you got another kid that

1001
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.880
<v Speaker 9>is picking up as quick but not as talented. It

1002
00:53:54.000 --> 00:53:55.679
<v Speaker 9>pisses you off. You know, it makes you mad, it

1003
00:53:55.760 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 9>frustrates you. Yeah, and all of a sudden you're looking

1004
00:53:59.639 --> 00:54:02.000
<v Speaker 9>bad because that kid that wasn't as caulid as you

1005
00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:05.840
<v Speaker 9>is playing better than you. He's playing more and you're not.

1006
00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I got to think too that in a situation like that,

1007
00:54:12.159 --> 00:54:16.719
<v Speaker 2>if if you are one of those heady, well schooled players,

1008
00:54:16.800 --> 00:54:20.320
<v Speaker 2>if you're not picking something up right away, you know

1009
00:54:20.599 --> 00:54:22.559
<v Speaker 2>you're going to get it that there's got to be

1010
00:54:22.719 --> 00:54:26.639
<v Speaker 2>just some nuance you're missing. And and if you're if

1011
00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:28.239
<v Speaker 2>you just stay at it, you're going to get it

1012
00:54:28.639 --> 00:54:33.039
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to you know, being frustrated and and kicking

1013
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:36.800
<v Speaker 2>the floor and that kind of thing. Am I right, Yeah,

1014
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:37.239
<v Speaker 2>you are?

1015
00:54:37.559 --> 00:54:40.400
<v Speaker 9>You know it's it's it's just I told you we

1016
00:54:40.519 --> 00:54:43.119
<v Speaker 9>live in a Microwaves sociy, you know what I mean. Yeah,

1017
00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:47.280
<v Speaker 9>And you know, you know you came and got this kid,

1018
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:49.000
<v Speaker 9>he's a McDonald Americans.

1019
00:54:49.079 --> 00:54:49.559
<v Speaker 3>This is that.

1020
00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:54.039
<v Speaker 9>But when he gets to your place and you have

1021
00:54:54.159 --> 00:54:57.320
<v Speaker 9>a you know, a system that you know, you got

1022
00:54:57.440 --> 00:54:59.840
<v Speaker 9>to think a little bit. Or it's something that he

1023
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.880
<v Speaker 9>he's unfamiliar with, uncomfortable win and he's having a hard

1024
00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:05.320
<v Speaker 9>time picking it up because he played for a guy

1025
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:07.079
<v Speaker 9>in high school that just rolled out the balls and

1026
00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:09.800
<v Speaker 9>let him be him. Yeah, it's an adjustment.

1027
00:55:10.000 --> 00:55:10.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1028
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:14.719
<v Speaker 9>And you know, look at some of the kids that

1029
00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:17.239
<v Speaker 9>the Cow had last year, how frustrated they were when

1030
00:55:17.239 --> 00:55:20.039
<v Speaker 9>they got you know, their highly talent and you know,

1031
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:22.079
<v Speaker 9>played for some high school coaches just rolled the ball

1032
00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:24.840
<v Speaker 9>out and things like that. Now when you come to college,

1033
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:27.960
<v Speaker 9>it's more strategic, it's more of a business, and it's

1034
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:31.559
<v Speaker 9>less fun because it's not just hooping anymore. It's actually

1035
00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.559
<v Speaker 9>studying film and doing scout of reports and having having

1036
00:55:35.599 --> 00:55:38.400
<v Speaker 9>a strategy as far as you know, playing against the

1037
00:55:38.480 --> 00:55:41.079
<v Speaker 9>other team is concerned, it changes.

1038
00:55:42.199 --> 00:55:45.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm flashing back on a story from Gosh,

1039
00:55:45.440 --> 00:55:47.280
<v Speaker 2>it had to be in the eighties maybe when when

1040
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:51.960
<v Speaker 2>when Patino recruited Carlos Tumor, when he signed Carlos Tumor,

1041
00:55:51.960 --> 00:55:55.079
<v Speaker 2>and that really surprised hell ha surprised coaches in Mississippi.

1042
00:55:55.760 --> 00:55:58.079
<v Speaker 2>But Kentucky had been looking at a kid who was

1043
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:02.440
<v Speaker 2>on Tumor's high school team, and Rick ended up liking

1044
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Tumor more than he liked the other kid, and quite frankly,

1045
00:56:05.400 --> 00:56:09.639
<v Speaker 2>he scattered him on video. Uh, the other kid everybody wanted,

1046
00:56:09.679 --> 00:56:12.239
<v Speaker 2>and he ended up going to Whole Miss and was

1047
00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:15.800
<v Speaker 2>a raw talent but didn't really understand the game of

1048
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.679
<v Speaker 2>basketball and never really turned into much at Mississippi. And

1049
00:56:21.199 --> 00:56:24.559
<v Speaker 2>I obviously that can happen, but that's got to drive

1050
00:56:24.599 --> 00:56:26.559
<v Speaker 2>a coach crazy. I would think, did you ever run

1051
00:56:26.639 --> 00:56:28.760
<v Speaker 2>into that kind of situation? I know you didn't coach

1052
00:56:28.800 --> 00:56:30.119
<v Speaker 2>it at that level as.

1053
00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.159
<v Speaker 9>A head coach where I thought a kid was much

1054
00:56:32.199 --> 00:56:34.960
<v Speaker 9>better than what he was. He got my place, you know,

1055
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:38.880
<v Speaker 9>and I started doing things differently. You know, I stopped

1056
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:41.400
<v Speaker 9>looking at just the talent and au game. I had

1057
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:44.199
<v Speaker 9>to do other things, like, you know, how is he

1058
00:56:44.360 --> 00:56:47.320
<v Speaker 9>from a character standpoint? Is he a tough enough kid

1059
00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:51.400
<v Speaker 9>to handle my coaching? You know how Cerebro is he?

1060
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:53.639
<v Speaker 9>Is he a smart basketball player? You know what I mean?

1061
00:56:54.400 --> 00:56:56.199
<v Speaker 9>You know, is he not just in the good athlete?

1062
00:56:56.280 --> 00:56:59.440
<v Speaker 9>You know, it's a lot of things come into play

1063
00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:03.360
<v Speaker 9>with that type at the deal And now, like Nick

1064
00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:06.400
<v Speaker 9>Saba said, you know, you look at a kid, he's

1065
00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:10.880
<v Speaker 9>highly talent, talented, and you know he wants X amount

1066
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:12.800
<v Speaker 9>of dollars and such and such, and you get him

1067
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 9>and you pay him a million dollars and he's good

1068
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:21.360
<v Speaker 9>enough to get you beat Yeah, right, you know, and

1069
00:57:21.760 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 9>it's more relevant now than anything you know used to be.

1070
00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:27.039
<v Speaker 9>Just bring the kid in and say, hey, you know,

1071
00:57:27.119 --> 00:57:28.679
<v Speaker 9>you may not be good enough. You might want to

1072
00:57:29.039 --> 00:57:31.119
<v Speaker 9>you know, transfer, it's not working out for you, blah

1073
00:57:31.119 --> 00:57:34.199
<v Speaker 9>blah blah blah blah. But you're more invested now with

1074
00:57:34.360 --> 00:57:37.000
<v Speaker 9>these kids because the nil situation.

1075
00:57:37.159 --> 00:57:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and again I'm flashing on a conversation with Leonard Hamilton.

1076
00:57:41.679 --> 00:57:44.719
<v Speaker 2>There was a big that Kentucky really wanted and the

1077
00:57:44.800 --> 00:57:46.119
<v Speaker 2>kid ended up going to Creighton.

1078
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:48.119
<v Speaker 3>And I asked Leonard about it, and.

1079
00:57:48.199 --> 00:57:51.039
<v Speaker 2>He said, that kid's the kind of player who gets

1080
00:57:51.079 --> 00:57:54.719
<v Speaker 2>coaches fired because he was a big was in all everything,

1081
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:57.599
<v Speaker 2>and he just wasn't very good. As it turned out,

1082
00:57:57.719 --> 00:57:59.920
<v Speaker 2>he probably would have developed a little better. It can

1083
00:58:00.000 --> 00:58:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Tucky playing against better competition. But ultimately, yeah, that coaching

1084
00:58:06.119 --> 00:58:07.719
<v Speaker 2>staff got fire. But I mean, you know, look at

1085
00:58:07.760 --> 00:58:09.719
<v Speaker 2>Ben Simmons, look at some of these kids of late

1086
00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:13.239
<v Speaker 2>who chose to go to you know, LSU or wherever.

1087
00:58:13.320 --> 00:58:15.199
<v Speaker 9>Then Simmons, you just brought up a name as a

1088
00:58:15.280 --> 00:58:19.920
<v Speaker 9>prime example. YEA, a guy who was just touted as

1089
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:22.559
<v Speaker 9>the next you know, up and coming. That's right, and

1090
00:58:22.760 --> 00:58:25.159
<v Speaker 9>he's gotten every coach that he's ever played for a Fire,

1091
00:58:25.320 --> 00:58:27.480
<v Speaker 9>starting with Johnny Jones. It's a good friend of bars.

1092
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:31.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hey, it's it's not. I don't envy you the profession,

1093
00:58:31.440 --> 00:58:33.920
<v Speaker 2>but I understand why you love it. He is Sean Woods.

1094
00:58:34.400 --> 00:58:38.119
<v Speaker 2>He is an unforgettable guard who joins us every Wednesday

1095
00:58:38.159 --> 00:58:40.280
<v Speaker 2>when we're not bumped by basketball like we will be

1096
00:58:40.400 --> 00:58:43.039
<v Speaker 2>next week, so you'll hear him on Thursday here, thanks.

1097
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.320
<v Speaker 3>Coach, have a great week you two Dick.

1098
00:58:46.440 --> 00:58:48.840
<v Speaker 2>When we come back, Western Bureau Chief Gary Moore will

1099
00:58:48.880 --> 00:58:50.599
<v Speaker 2>join us right here on the Big Moon Sider six

1100
00:58:50.719 --> 00:58:54.400
<v Speaker 2>thirty wlap. Welcome back to the Big Bloon Sider. As

1101
00:58:54.440 --> 00:58:57.960
<v Speaker 2>we mentioned earlier, it is Thursday, but bumped last night

1102
00:58:58.079 --> 00:59:00.880
<v Speaker 2>for basketball, and what a game it was, So we

1103
00:59:00.960 --> 00:59:03.880
<v Speaker 2>have slid our Wednesday guest over at one evening, including

1104
00:59:04.400 --> 00:59:06.119
<v Speaker 2>our West End Bureau chief Gary Moore.

1105
00:59:06.519 --> 00:59:08.960
<v Speaker 3>How is he loves the overlap?

1106
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I know you do, because not just football and basketball,

1107
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:14.199
<v Speaker 2>but baseball, your beloved Dodgers.

1108
00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:15.840
<v Speaker 3>At the series. Yeah I know.

1109
00:59:16.239 --> 00:59:19.559
<v Speaker 7>And you know there's Premier League soccer in the UK,

1110
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:22.239
<v Speaker 7>which which I love the other UK. Yeah, all sorts

1111
00:59:22.280 --> 00:59:26.159
<v Speaker 7>of good stuff going on. We have two guys in

1112
00:59:26.199 --> 00:59:28.559
<v Speaker 7>a six pack that means you and me and six

1113
00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:30.960
<v Speaker 7>fun things to go over. And finally we'll kick things

1114
00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:33.920
<v Speaker 7>off of our first wig here after forty three years,

1115
00:59:34.000 --> 00:59:36.360
<v Speaker 7>not since Reagan's first year in office and when you

1116
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:41.280
<v Speaker 7>had this intimidating, imposing looking beard, we have finally another

1117
00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:43.199
<v Speaker 7>Yankees Dodgers World Series.

1118
00:59:43.239 --> 00:59:44.360
<v Speaker 3>You remember that, I'm sure.

1119
00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:44.800
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah.

1120
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:48.000
<v Speaker 7>And by the way, I've got two I've got some

1121
00:59:48.159 --> 00:59:51.239
<v Speaker 7>cool Kentucky connections for the World Series at the end

1122
00:59:51.320 --> 00:59:54.159
<v Speaker 7>of this in our sixth wig. But there's a twist

1123
00:59:54.559 --> 00:59:56.199
<v Speaker 7>to them that you won't see to at least one

1124
00:59:56.199 --> 00:59:57.199
<v Speaker 7>of them that you won't see coming.

1125
00:59:57.320 --> 00:59:58.840
<v Speaker 3>So that's going to be in our sixth wig. Here.

1126
01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:01.960
<v Speaker 7>We also have the two best teams in baseball who

1127
01:00:02.000 --> 01:00:04.920
<v Speaker 7>are also playing the best baseball.

1128
01:00:04.599 --> 01:00:05.639
<v Speaker 3>For this year's Fall Classic.

1129
01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:07.599
<v Speaker 7>Doesn't always work out that way, like last year with

1130
01:00:07.639 --> 01:00:12.519
<v Speaker 7>Arizona when they got hot and then faded pathetically to Texas.

1131
01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:15.559
<v Speaker 7>The Yankees' first trip back in fifteen years four years

1132
01:00:15.599 --> 01:00:18.840
<v Speaker 7>for the Dodgers in that shortened but still official twenty

1133
01:00:18.920 --> 01:00:21.119
<v Speaker 7>twenty season, some people have said, well, you know it

1134
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.960
<v Speaker 7>wasn't it was the COVID year. It wasn't an official season,

1135
01:00:24.039 --> 01:00:27.440
<v Speaker 7>it wasn't legitimate. Well, somebody had to win it, you know.

1136
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:29.480
<v Speaker 7>If LA didn't, we'd hear like, well, they couldn't even

1137
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:31.719
<v Speaker 7>win it in a truncated year. So that's like every

1138
01:00:31.719 --> 01:00:33.920
<v Speaker 7>time I hear that's like a no win win for

1139
01:00:34.039 --> 01:00:37.440
<v Speaker 7>the Dodgers. You know, if you want a really illegitimate series,

1140
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:40.679
<v Speaker 7>go back to twenty seventeen and the Lion cheating dirty filed.

1141
01:00:40.719 --> 01:00:43.719
<v Speaker 7>The Astros cheated all year, all year.

1142
01:00:44.159 --> 01:00:45.480
<v Speaker 3>It was worse than the Black Sox.

1143
01:00:46.239 --> 01:00:48.119
<v Speaker 7>I don't mean to go, oh, Michael Wilbon here, but

1144
01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:51.559
<v Speaker 7>if we had a Baseball commissioner like a Bart Giamatti,

1145
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:54.920
<v Speaker 7>for say, and one who wasn't an invertebrate, that twenty

1146
01:00:54.960 --> 01:00:57.320
<v Speaker 7>seventeen crown probably would have been redacted by now. But hey,

1147
01:00:57.639 --> 01:01:02.119
<v Speaker 7>upward and onward. Friday Tomorrow, Game one, Dodger Stadium, first pitch,

1148
01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:05.039
<v Speaker 7>eight h eight pm, with hours of pregame before that.

1149
01:01:06.039 --> 01:01:09.480
<v Speaker 7>Vegas likes LA thinks it's gonna go at least six games,

1150
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:12.000
<v Speaker 7>though I say Dodgers in seven games.

1151
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:14.119
<v Speaker 3>Wow, Well I've decided.

1152
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:16.480
<v Speaker 2>Even though growing up I was a Yankees fan because

1153
01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:20.199
<v Speaker 2>in the backyard I was Mickey Mantle. I need to

1154
01:01:20.280 --> 01:01:22.719
<v Speaker 2>root for the Dodgers, not just for your sake, because

1155
01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:25.320
<v Speaker 2>my buddy Darren Hendrick's a big Yankees fan. Aaron Gershaan

1156
01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:28.760
<v Speaker 2>are one of our regulars, big Yankee fan. But when

1157
01:01:28.920 --> 01:01:31.840
<v Speaker 2>there's a player on the Dodgers, on any team whose

1158
01:01:31.960 --> 01:01:34.440
<v Speaker 2>wife grew up next door to my children, they get

1159
01:01:34.559 --> 01:01:35.159
<v Speaker 2>my support.

1160
01:01:35.239 --> 01:01:37.840
<v Speaker 3>And that's the Dodgers. It's amazing to me.

1161
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:38.239
<v Speaker 6>Gary.

1162
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:40.440
<v Speaker 2>This is the first time these teams have squared off

1163
01:01:40.719 --> 01:01:45.320
<v Speaker 2>in forty three years, simply because they are, if not

1164
01:01:45.440 --> 01:01:47.679
<v Speaker 2>the top to of the top three teams when it

1165
01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:50.360
<v Speaker 2>comes to spending. But as you and I have talked

1166
01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:54.760
<v Speaker 2>many times, that doesn't always translate to wins. But each

1167
01:01:54.920 --> 01:01:57.840
<v Speaker 2>is put together to really really good teams. We're gonna

1168
01:01:57.840 --> 01:01:58.960
<v Speaker 2>find out which one is great.

1169
01:02:00.079 --> 01:02:01.639
<v Speaker 7>Cashman has mentioned that it could have been happen It

1170
01:02:01.639 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 7>could have already happened in twenty seventeen, but he already

1171
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:04.840
<v Speaker 7>went there.

1172
01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.199
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, it's Walker Buehler's wife who grew

1173
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:08.400
<v Speaker 2>up next door to my children.

1174
01:02:08.559 --> 01:02:11.719
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely second swig in the six pack. Hey before the

1175
01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:15.679
<v Speaker 7>Dodgers and Yankees, also from La we got football vikings

1176
01:02:15.719 --> 01:02:19.639
<v Speaker 7>and rams back Next Hour, Thursday ninth Football Minnesota. Three

1177
01:02:19.679 --> 01:02:22.360
<v Speaker 7>point favor there, and then on Sunday. A lot of

1178
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:25.760
<v Speaker 7>meh games, not that many as we had like the

1179
01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:28.960
<v Speaker 7>last couple of weekends. Your Packers, though, should win in Jacksonville,

1180
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:31.960
<v Speaker 7>with or without the White helmets. You got the Bills

1181
01:02:32.119 --> 01:02:34.199
<v Speaker 7>and my Seahawks. That should be a fun game. Same

1182
01:02:34.239 --> 01:02:37.000
<v Speaker 7>with the Eagles up I seventy five at the Bengals.

1183
01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:38.920
<v Speaker 7>Maybe the game of the day. Four and two Bears

1184
01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:41.519
<v Speaker 7>coming off of bye week, winners of three in a row,

1185
01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:45.320
<v Speaker 7>and they're going to be at five and two Washington, Washington.

1186
01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:47.639
<v Speaker 7>They've won five of their last six, but the Bears

1187
01:02:47.639 --> 01:02:49.000
<v Speaker 7>are still a two and a half point favorite. And

1188
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:52.599
<v Speaker 7>then and then Sunday night, the beleaguered Cowboys at the

1189
01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:56.920
<v Speaker 7>reeling forty nine Ers. Here's hoping that Frisco runs it up,

1190
01:02:56.960 --> 01:02:58.840
<v Speaker 7>so Jerry Jones will take it out on the radio

1191
01:02:58.920 --> 01:03:01.519
<v Speaker 7>guys on Monday when they add, Hey Grandpa, what happened?

1192
01:03:04.320 --> 01:03:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Vikes Rams Once upon a time was a cool game.

1193
01:03:08.079 --> 01:03:11.639
<v Speaker 2>But the Rams just, you know, with Cooper Cupp being injury,

1194
01:03:11.840 --> 01:03:13.039
<v Speaker 2>it's just they're just not good.

1195
01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:13.760
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

1196
01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:16.880
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing how quickly they have they have slid there,

1197
01:03:17.159 --> 01:03:19.119
<v Speaker 2>and the Vikings I have to fear them in my

1198
01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:22.400
<v Speaker 2>division in the NFC North, which I still want to

1199
01:03:22.440 --> 01:03:23.119
<v Speaker 2>call the Central.

1200
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:23.760
<v Speaker 8>Uh.

1201
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:26.440
<v Speaker 2>They're good man and and good for Sam Darnold, you

1202
01:03:26.480 --> 01:03:28.519
<v Speaker 2>know you feel good for him. I don't know what's

1203
01:03:28.599 --> 01:03:31.280
<v Speaker 2>up with the Bills, why they aren't better. It wouldn't

1204
01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:33.639
<v Speaker 2>surprise me if your boys beat him. And boy, you

1205
01:03:33.760 --> 01:03:36.719
<v Speaker 2>talk about a traditional game in the past, Cowboys Niners,

1206
01:03:36.760 --> 01:03:38.360
<v Speaker 2>both teams limping into this one.

1207
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:39.679
<v Speaker 3>How disappointing is that?

1208
01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:44.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I'll still probably watch it. Oh yeah, can't stand

1209
01:03:44.920 --> 01:03:49.280
<v Speaker 7>watching because it's on right exactly. Don't need another reason

1210
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:52.239
<v Speaker 7>other than that our third swig in the six pack.

1211
01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:54.960
<v Speaker 7>By the way, while we're talking NFL, you as somebody

1212
01:03:54.960 --> 01:03:57.480
<v Speaker 7>who been in telling you you've forgotten more about television

1213
01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.519
<v Speaker 7>and production than I'll ever know. So so, what would

1214
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:02.639
<v Speaker 7>you say is the over under on how many more

1215
01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:05.840
<v Speaker 7>games Tom Brady gets to commentate for Fox?

1216
01:04:06.960 --> 01:04:07.639
<v Speaker 3>We already know.

1217
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:11.480
<v Speaker 7>Too many network executives have got this hero worshiping, jock

1218
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:15.039
<v Speaker 7>sniffing attitude with very little regard for the quality of

1219
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:17.599
<v Speaker 7>the broadcast product. Too often it's oh, well, just get

1220
01:04:17.639 --> 01:04:19.480
<v Speaker 7>some famous jocks in the booth. They'll be fine.

1221
01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:20.159
<v Speaker 3>It's only TV.

1222
01:04:20.360 --> 01:04:22.119
<v Speaker 7>Boy, they sure were a great player, so boy, I

1223
01:04:22.119 --> 01:04:24.519
<v Speaker 7>can't wait to talk to them after the game. And

1224
01:04:24.719 --> 01:04:28.000
<v Speaker 7>Fox seem to have such little regard for sports credibility.

1225
01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:30.760
<v Speaker 7>They went ahead with Brady's ten year, three hundred and

1226
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.719
<v Speaker 7>seventy million dollars deal, knowing his bid to have a

1227
01:04:33.800 --> 01:04:37.000
<v Speaker 7>stake in the Raiders ownership was not only in progress,

1228
01:04:37.320 --> 01:04:39.679
<v Speaker 7>but was probably just all but a slam dunk at

1229
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:42.000
<v Speaker 7>that point as well. Now that he's been approved, check

1230
01:04:42.079 --> 01:04:44.159
<v Speaker 7>out some of the restrictions they put on Brady from

1231
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:48.639
<v Speaker 7>the NFL. Tom cannot be in any team's facility. He

1232
01:04:48.800 --> 01:04:54.159
<v Speaker 7>cannot witness practice. He cannot attend broadcast production meetings. Kind

1233
01:04:54.199 --> 01:04:56.679
<v Speaker 7>of an important deal before you go on television for

1234
01:04:56.760 --> 01:04:59.800
<v Speaker 7>a game in person or virtually. Tom is subject to

1235
01:05:00.039 --> 01:05:03.400
<v Speaker 7>NFL gambling and anti tampering policies and the biggie. If

1236
01:05:03.440 --> 01:05:08.280
<v Speaker 7>you're a commentator, radius prohibited from criticizing game officials and

1237
01:05:08.920 --> 01:05:13.880
<v Speaker 7>other clubs. And that's certainly a great area. When what

1238
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:15.840
<v Speaker 7>was that a critique of a call? Or is it

1239
01:05:15.880 --> 01:05:18.480
<v Speaker 7>a critique of a pass or a play? But hey

1240
01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:20.920
<v Speaker 7>have fun commentating Tom. I ask you, Dick, is this

1241
01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:23.440
<v Speaker 7>a doable thing still going forward? Or is it just

1242
01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:24.519
<v Speaker 7>an unfixable mess.

1243
01:05:25.360 --> 01:05:27.719
<v Speaker 2>There's going to be one thing that determines the answer

1244
01:05:27.760 --> 01:05:31.559
<v Speaker 2>to your question, and that's ratings. Quite frankly, you're right.

1245
01:05:32.119 --> 01:05:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know they will weigh that against quality

1246
01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:37.760
<v Speaker 2>of the product. And how many times have you ever

1247
01:05:37.880 --> 01:05:40.840
<v Speaker 2>heard at the highest level. I've seen it at the

1248
01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:43.280
<v Speaker 2>local level, But how many times at the highest level

1249
01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:47.960
<v Speaker 2>have you heard an executive say, you know, yeah, we

1250
01:05:48.239 --> 01:05:49.400
<v Speaker 2>got to take this guy off the air.

1251
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:51.559
<v Speaker 3>We're making big money. Our ratings are great, but he's

1252
01:05:51.719 --> 01:05:55.360
<v Speaker 3>just not up to our standards. That doesn't happen, y'all.

1253
01:05:55.519 --> 01:05:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Comes It always comes down to the to the dollars

1254
01:05:58.079 --> 01:06:00.519
<v Speaker 2>and cents, which dovetails off ratings.

1255
01:06:00.599 --> 01:06:03.159
<v Speaker 3>But I had read a lot about this. You you

1256
01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:04.039
<v Speaker 3>did a deeper dive.

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01:06:04.079 --> 01:06:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I knew about the broadcast meetings and the officials and

1258
01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:08.360
<v Speaker 2>all I didn't even I didn't know he couldn't even

1259
01:06:08.360 --> 01:06:09.400
<v Speaker 2>go into the facilities.

1260
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Now that is stunning.

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01:06:11.480 --> 01:06:14.079
<v Speaker 2>And so the question is going back to my original point.

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01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:17.000
<v Speaker 2>If if you were up for a job as a

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01:06:17.119 --> 01:06:20.679
<v Speaker 2>as a broadcast analyst, and you went in saying, oh,

1264
01:06:20.719 --> 01:06:22.920
<v Speaker 2>and by the way, here are a list of restrictions

1265
01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:26.039
<v Speaker 2>that come with me, they would have turned you around

1266
01:06:26.079 --> 01:06:27.159
<v Speaker 2>and showed you at the door.

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01:06:27.079 --> 01:06:27.599
<v Speaker 3>With a boot.

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01:06:28.599 --> 01:06:31.119
<v Speaker 2>They never would have thought about hiring you. But he's Brady,

1269
01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:34.280
<v Speaker 2>he's a name. He brings viewers, he brings eyeballs. So

1270
01:06:34.480 --> 01:06:38.480
<v Speaker 2>I hate to sound so calloused and cynical, but if,

1271
01:06:38.519 --> 01:06:42.960
<v Speaker 2>and unless you know, the numbers drop, and they well might,

1272
01:06:43.320 --> 01:06:43.719
<v Speaker 2>you're going to.

1273
01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Keep seeing him.

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01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:47.760
<v Speaker 7>I think Bob Costas had a stake in the Yankees,

1275
01:06:47.760 --> 01:06:50.079
<v Speaker 7>would he still be doing MLB games?

1276
01:06:50.800 --> 01:06:54.239
<v Speaker 2>You know what, though, Costas would remove himself. Not that

1277
01:06:54.360 --> 01:06:57.159
<v Speaker 2>he's a saint, but good point.

1278
01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:00.599
<v Speaker 7>Fort Swigg On the college football, Well, Dick, if you

1279
01:07:00.719 --> 01:07:04.239
<v Speaker 7>told Jeff Brahm his offense would ring up forty five

1280
01:07:04.320 --> 01:07:06.639
<v Speaker 7>points against the number six team in the nation before

1281
01:07:06.840 --> 01:07:10.280
<v Speaker 7>last Saturday, he probably would have been elated for about

1282
01:07:10.320 --> 01:07:12.159
<v Speaker 7>ten seconds before he told him, Oh, by the way,

1283
01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:14.960
<v Speaker 7>your soft, porous defense will give up fifty two points.

1284
01:07:15.800 --> 01:07:18.320
<v Speaker 7>So I won't be surprised that if the Cards, by

1285
01:07:18.320 --> 01:07:20.960
<v Speaker 7>the way, have a new DC, not only by this

1286
01:07:21.039 --> 01:07:22.599
<v Speaker 7>time next year, maybe by the end of the season.

1287
01:07:22.639 --> 01:07:24.039
<v Speaker 3>Who knows up next? For U of L.

1288
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:27.760
<v Speaker 7>Louisville plays Friday night. Friday Night against Boston College there

1289
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:31.199
<v Speaker 7>in Boston. ESPN two Cards currently a seven point favorite.

1290
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:33.280
<v Speaker 7>Then you got your cats. They were two and a

1291
01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:35.559
<v Speaker 7>half point favorites at Florida, as we know, losers by

1292
01:07:35.639 --> 01:07:39.400
<v Speaker 7>twenty eight to a Gators team freshman running back, five touchdowns,

1293
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:42.800
<v Speaker 7>freshman quarterback two hundred and fifty nine yards, five passes

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01:07:42.840 --> 01:07:45.440
<v Speaker 7>more than forty yards. UK's a two and a half

1295
01:07:45.480 --> 01:07:48.400
<v Speaker 7>point favorite over Auburn at home Saturday night. You'll be

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01:07:48.440 --> 01:07:52.440
<v Speaker 7>there course at seven thirty sec Network. Obviously, this is

1297
01:07:52.480 --> 01:07:55.400
<v Speaker 7>a winnable game, but so is last week, at least

1298
01:07:55.480 --> 01:07:57.760
<v Speaker 7>until kickoff and then they got bullied and pushed around.

1299
01:07:58.599 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 7>If UK and UL needed bounce back games to try

1300
01:08:01.719 --> 01:08:06.559
<v Speaker 7>and salvage seasons with super tough road games ahead, these

1301
01:08:06.599 --> 01:08:07.159
<v Speaker 7>would be them.

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01:08:07.639 --> 01:08:11.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you make a good point about Ul's defense. Although

1303
01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:14.519
<v Speaker 2>watching college game day, because it's being a night game

1304
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:16.359
<v Speaker 2>in Gainesville, I got to lay around the hotel and

1305
01:08:16.479 --> 01:08:19.479
<v Speaker 2>just watch football all day when I wasn't at the pool,

1306
01:08:19.520 --> 01:08:22.920
<v Speaker 2>which was great. But one or two of the talking

1307
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:27.279
<v Speaker 2>heads picked Miami because of Louisville's poorest pass defense. I

1308
01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:30.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know enough about their team, haven't watched them much

1309
01:08:30.319 --> 01:08:34.199
<v Speaker 2>to say whether it's the decordinator or personnel in the

1310
01:08:34.279 --> 01:08:37.000
<v Speaker 2>defensive secondary, I have a tendency to think it's the latter.

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01:08:37.319 --> 01:08:40.479
<v Speaker 2>I think what you'll see maybe before you see a change.

1312
01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:43.640
<v Speaker 2>And the coaching staff is more action in the portal

1313
01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:46.119
<v Speaker 2>with Jeff Bromm and his staff trying to pull more

1314
01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:48.800
<v Speaker 2>talent through there. But you know how tough it is

1315
01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:52.159
<v Speaker 2>to find quality defensive backs at the pro level, at

1316
01:08:52.199 --> 01:08:55.079
<v Speaker 2>the college, at the high school level. So they're gonna

1317
01:08:55.079 --> 01:08:56.920
<v Speaker 2>have to hit a couple of home runs there. As

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01:08:57.039 --> 01:09:01.039
<v Speaker 2>for Kentucky, I've said it all week. They're in that

1319
01:09:01.199 --> 01:09:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Florida game until a couple things happen and then they

1320
01:09:04.600 --> 01:09:07.399
<v Speaker 2>just kind of collapse. So we're gonna learn a lot

1321
01:09:07.439 --> 01:09:09.800
<v Speaker 2>about this team this week, and they're gonna have to

1322
01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:13.319
<v Speaker 2>force Auburn turnovers because that's what's done in the Tigers

1323
01:09:13.399 --> 01:09:16.159
<v Speaker 2>this year. If the Tigers play a clean game, it's

1324
01:09:16.239 --> 01:09:16.960
<v Speaker 2>up for grabs.

1325
01:09:18.439 --> 01:09:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Bittswig and the six Pack.

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01:09:19.720 --> 01:09:23.079
<v Speaker 7>Continuing to college football, Dick, the number one college football

1327
01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:26.039
<v Speaker 7>team in America is in our commonwealth of Kentucky this

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01:09:26.640 --> 01:09:29.960
<v Speaker 7>very weekend. That would be number one North Dakota State

1329
01:09:30.039 --> 01:09:33.920
<v Speaker 7>in the FCS rankings, formerly one Double A in my

1330
01:09:34.079 --> 01:09:37.039
<v Speaker 7>hometown of Murray to play the one and six racers

1331
01:09:37.319 --> 01:09:41.319
<v Speaker 7>one in six racers who's who are actually worse than

1332
01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:45.399
<v Speaker 7>the record edicates they're really really awful. In fact, Dick

1333
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:48.520
<v Speaker 7>the other North Dakota North Dakota University the unranked win

1334
01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:52.399
<v Speaker 7>rang up seventy two at Murray three weeks ago. There's

1335
01:09:52.439 --> 01:09:55.199
<v Speaker 7>not even a line on this North Dakota State Murray game.

1336
01:09:56.079 --> 01:09:59.640
<v Speaker 7>We could see maybe even eighty points before it's all over.

1337
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:02.640
<v Speaker 7>Final horse whipping of this. But along with the Cats

1338
01:10:02.640 --> 01:10:04.920
<v Speaker 7>and the Cards games this weekend, I've picked six to see.

1339
01:10:05.640 --> 01:10:09.600
<v Speaker 7>First of all, noon Saturday on the Big ten Network,

1340
01:10:09.680 --> 01:10:15.119
<v Speaker 7>Number thirteen Indiana hosting unranked Washington. Bright and I were

1341
01:10:15.159 --> 01:10:18.680
<v Speaker 7>in Bloomington last Saturday for the Nebraska beat down homecoming weekend.

1342
01:10:19.119 --> 01:10:22.720
<v Speaker 7>Fox Big Noon was there. So now ESPN's game day

1343
01:10:22.960 --> 01:10:24.920
<v Speaker 7>is that I've never seen that where they follow up

1344
01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:27.279
<v Speaker 7>each other, but that's going to happen this Saturday. Sold out,

1345
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:29.119
<v Speaker 7>by the way, the rest of the Indiana games are

1346
01:10:29.159 --> 01:10:30.319
<v Speaker 7>sold out for the rest of the year.

1347
01:10:30.640 --> 01:10:33.399
<v Speaker 3>In Bloomington. Also at noon Saturday.

1348
01:10:33.159 --> 01:10:35.840
<v Speaker 7>Number twelve Notre Dame twelve and a half point favorites

1349
01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:38.520
<v Speaker 7>at number twenty four Navy.

1350
01:10:39.119 --> 01:10:40.199
<v Speaker 3>That's going to be on ABC.

1351
01:10:40.359 --> 01:10:42.920
<v Speaker 7>The first Big Test for the Midshipman three thirty number

1352
01:10:42.960 --> 01:10:46.880
<v Speaker 7>twenty one MISSOO will play at number fifteen Alabama. Yes,

1353
01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:50.640
<v Speaker 7>Indiana is ranked higher than Alabama. That's the world we

1354
01:10:50.720 --> 01:10:53.560
<v Speaker 7>live in right now. Bama is a huge favorite on

1355
01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:56.560
<v Speaker 7>that's on ABC three thirty. Also CBS number one Oregon

1356
01:10:56.600 --> 01:10:59.319
<v Speaker 7>hosting number twenty Illinois, who, by the way, had the

1357
01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:03.319
<v Speaker 7>coolest throw at least helmets last weekend. Yeah, Ducks are

1358
01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:06.920
<v Speaker 7>twenty one and a half point favorites in Eugene four

1359
01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:09.960
<v Speaker 7>or fifteen SEC Network number five Texas at number twenty

1360
01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:13.199
<v Speaker 7>five Vandy Trap game, Trap Game, Texas a nineteen point

1361
01:11:13.239 --> 01:11:15.560
<v Speaker 7>favorite in that one, and then at seven thirty you

1362
01:11:15.600 --> 01:11:20.479
<v Speaker 7>got ABC number eight, LSU number fourteen Texas A and M.

1363
01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:22.119
<v Speaker 7>The Aggies are a favorite in that one. I still

1364
01:11:22.239 --> 01:11:25.520
<v Speaker 7>like the Penn State at Wisconsin game also, and SMU

1365
01:11:25.640 --> 01:11:27.600
<v Speaker 7>at Duke. A lot of good ones this weekend. So

1366
01:11:27.720 --> 01:11:30.319
<v Speaker 7>besides the Cats and Tigers, you'll be seeing. What else

1367
01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:30.960
<v Speaker 7>do you want to watch?

1368
01:11:31.039 --> 01:11:31.399
<v Speaker 3>Personally?

1369
01:11:31.520 --> 01:11:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Well, obviously I'm curious about Indiana. I'm hoping that Hoosiers

1370
01:11:34.640 --> 01:11:36.359
<v Speaker 2>are real. That's a great story in there, because the

1371
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:38.039
<v Speaker 2>sellout of numbers. You and I have talked about this

1372
01:11:38.199 --> 01:11:41.600
<v Speaker 2>before they had Bowl teams. Back in the I think

1373
01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:43.720
<v Speaker 2>it was the mid to late eighties or early nineties,

1374
01:11:43.760 --> 01:11:46.000
<v Speaker 2>they had a couple of ball teams and nobody cared,

1375
01:11:46.039 --> 01:11:49.079
<v Speaker 2>nobody showed up. Yeah, Sam Weish had a couple of

1376
01:11:49.159 --> 01:11:51.399
<v Speaker 2>decent Indiana teams. But I love the fact that they're

1377
01:11:51.439 --> 01:11:54.880
<v Speaker 2>drawing now. But that's the power now of college football,

1378
01:11:54.880 --> 01:11:58.319
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's TV saturation, which in this case

1379
01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:02.039
<v Speaker 2>helps them with their gate. Notre Dame Navy is really

1380
01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:07.079
<v Speaker 2>really intriguing. I do like the Irish there, but tough

1381
01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:09.520
<v Speaker 2>to prepare for teams well, any of the Service academies

1382
01:12:09.560 --> 01:12:14.000
<v Speaker 2>that don't run traditional attacks. Missouri Alabama wouldn't surprise me

1383
01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:15.119
<v Speaker 2>if MISSOI wins that one.

1384
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:16.479
<v Speaker 3>I had to eat it on Oregon.

1385
01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:19.720
<v Speaker 2>I told you confidently that Ohio State would destroy the Ducks,

1386
01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:23.039
<v Speaker 2>and boy was I wrong. And I am, of course

1387
01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:26.199
<v Speaker 2>curious to see what the fighting Diegos and now the

1388
01:12:26.279 --> 01:12:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Nashville do with Texas. So, yeah, that's going to be

1389
01:12:29.520 --> 01:12:31.760
<v Speaker 2>a lot of fun. And again night game for a

1390
01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:33.600
<v Speaker 2>wild Cats, so I can watch a lot of football.

1391
01:12:34.159 --> 01:12:37.399
<v Speaker 7>Indiana's fifth in overall offense in the nation, seventh in

1392
01:12:37.520 --> 01:12:43.079
<v Speaker 7>overall defense, amazing and Indiana also one of two teams

1393
01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:45.680
<v Speaker 7>that have not been behind at all this season Armies

1394
01:12:45.720 --> 01:12:46.279
<v Speaker 7>the other one.

1395
01:12:46.640 --> 01:12:49.880
<v Speaker 3>New coach and a new approach. And it all fits.

1396
01:12:50.760 --> 01:12:51.720
<v Speaker 3>Sixth and final swig.

1397
01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:53.720
<v Speaker 7>With one hundred and twentieth World Series set for Game

1398
01:12:53.800 --> 01:12:56.119
<v Speaker 7>one just over twenty four hours from right now, it's

1399
01:12:56.199 --> 01:12:58.760
<v Speaker 7>cool to note the Kentucky connections for LA and New York.

1400
01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:02.239
<v Speaker 7>We've mentioned many times here Dodger pitcher probable Game three

1401
01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:08.079
<v Speaker 7>starter Walker Bueller, Tates Creek High guy was Henry Clay, Yeah,

1402
01:13:08.239 --> 01:13:13.840
<v Speaker 7>got okay. And also Walker's battery mate Will Smith, Yeah,

1403
01:13:14.039 --> 01:13:17.720
<v Speaker 7>little Kentucky Country Day High. And U of l Alum who,

1404
01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:19.119
<v Speaker 7>by the way, he has done a great job with

1405
01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:23.159
<v Speaker 7>these bullpen games especially but every yeah, how tough is

1406
01:13:23.199 --> 01:13:25.039
<v Speaker 7>that on a catcher? About every inning a new pitcher.

1407
01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:28.119
<v Speaker 7>Maybe a lot of listeners already know that. Yankees general

1408
01:13:28.159 --> 01:13:31.000
<v Speaker 7>manager and architect of these New York teams since nineteen

1409
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:34.439
<v Speaker 7>ninety eight, Brian Cashman lived in Lexington when his dad

1410
01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:37.960
<v Speaker 7>ran Castleton Farm, went to Lexington Catholic High, then on

1411
01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:40.680
<v Speaker 7>to college where he got a chance to intern for

1412
01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:46.880
<v Speaker 7>the Yankees. One problem Brian Cashman was an enormous LA Dodgers.

1413
01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:49.720
<v Speaker 3>Fan hated hated the Yankees.

1414
01:13:50.520 --> 01:13:53.520
<v Speaker 7>In fact, I've tweeted out a photo of Brian in

1415
01:13:53.600 --> 01:13:56.680
<v Speaker 7>a Dodgers cap and jersey with Tommy.

1416
01:13:56.479 --> 01:14:00.439
<v Speaker 3>Lesorda, who autographed it. Nice that his mom said us, you.

1417
01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:04.840
<v Speaker 7>Love that picture. But mucking the stalls at Castleton was

1418
01:14:04.920 --> 01:14:07.119
<v Speaker 7>a good preparation for Brian before he dealt with the

1419
01:14:07.159 --> 01:14:09.560
<v Speaker 7>horse crap of George Steinbrenner.

1420
01:14:09.000 --> 01:14:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Early on in those days and survived it.

1421
01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:14.199
<v Speaker 7>Took the internship with the Pinstripes in nineteen eighty six,

1422
01:14:15.039 --> 01:14:16.960
<v Speaker 7>seems to have worked out okay for Brian.

1423
01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:20.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and his dad, John actually was the president of

1424
01:14:20.279 --> 01:14:22.520
<v Speaker 2>the Red Mile at one point and a.

1425
01:14:22.560 --> 01:14:23.920
<v Speaker 3>Really good guy. Interviewed John.

1426
01:14:24.000 --> 01:14:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Never have met Brian, but I've interviewed John more than

1427
01:14:26.560 --> 01:14:30.600
<v Speaker 2>once when I worked at WKYT. I love hanging out

1428
01:14:30.640 --> 01:14:33.199
<v Speaker 2>at the Red Mile, but yeah, I love the Kentucky

1429
01:14:33.279 --> 01:14:38.960
<v Speaker 2>connections and it's a it's gonna be fun, But like

1430
01:14:39.319 --> 01:14:40.760
<v Speaker 2>I said, I'll stay with the Dodgers.

1431
01:14:41.239 --> 01:14:42.800
<v Speaker 3>You ever had to you're a horse guy? You ever

1432
01:14:42.840 --> 01:14:44.199
<v Speaker 3>heard a muck stalls in your life?

1433
01:14:44.279 --> 01:14:45.960
<v Speaker 2>I mucked a stall once when I was doing a

1434
01:14:46.039 --> 01:14:48.720
<v Speaker 2>story about working at a horse farm, and I was

1435
01:14:48.800 --> 01:14:51.000
<v Speaker 2>told I did a good job, but was way too slow.

1436
01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:54.880
<v Speaker 3>Is that your sinuses, doesn't it? Oh? Yoh yeah. I

1437
01:14:54.920 --> 01:14:58.359
<v Speaker 3>would never survive as a stallmucker. We'll come back with hot.

1438
01:14:58.199 --> 01:14:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Reads for Gary in just a minute here on six

1439
01:15:00.560 --> 01:15:03.680
<v Speaker 2>WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue Cider Tom for

1440
01:15:03.760 --> 01:15:05.960
<v Speaker 2>a couple of hot reaves for our West End bureau chief.

1441
01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Gary Moore talked about the Dodgers in the World Series,

1442
01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:11.720
<v Speaker 2>but it's kind of a tinge of sadness going into

1443
01:15:11.760 --> 01:15:15.520
<v Speaker 2>the series with the loss of Fernando Valenzuela died way

1444
01:15:15.600 --> 01:15:18.920
<v Speaker 2>too young. But boy, he took us back, or really

1445
01:15:19.000 --> 01:15:21.319
<v Speaker 2>the memories took us back, Gary, to the early eighties.

1446
01:15:21.680 --> 01:15:24.760
<v Speaker 3>It was before you moved to La just before I

1447
01:15:24.840 --> 01:15:27.560
<v Speaker 3>think you moved to La Is when Fernando had that

1448
01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.039
<v Speaker 3>incredible nineteen eighty one season.

1449
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:33.079
<v Speaker 2>His whole career was amazing. But you look at the numbers,

1450
01:15:33.199 --> 01:15:35.920
<v Speaker 2>especially those first eight games that will never be matched,

1451
01:15:36.399 --> 01:15:40.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, all complete games, five shutouts, but throughout his career,

1452
01:15:41.119 --> 01:15:44.439
<v Speaker 2>but just in general in La with the culture and

1453
01:15:44.520 --> 01:15:49.119
<v Speaker 2>him being a hero from Mexico, it was just an

1454
01:15:49.159 --> 01:15:51.119
<v Speaker 2>incredible chapter in the history of baseball.

1455
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:53.600
<v Speaker 7>Well, you think about how popular Dodgers already are you

1456
01:15:53.680 --> 01:15:56.560
<v Speaker 7>think about Okay, well, who were the big popular Latino

1457
01:15:56.640 --> 01:16:01.920
<v Speaker 7>pitchers before Fernando, right, there weren't any, so for him

1458
01:16:01.960 --> 01:16:03.159
<v Speaker 7>to come in there and you don't have to be

1459
01:16:03.239 --> 01:16:04.600
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I spent a lot of time in East

1460
01:16:04.760 --> 01:16:07.239
<v Speaker 7>LA and Boyle Heights and Huntington Park and all these

1461
01:16:07.279 --> 01:16:10.319
<v Speaker 7>places that are around there. But really it's the culture

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<v Speaker 7>is all throughout Southern California, from in Fact LA, all

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<v Speaker 7>if the whole state, but you know, it's definitely Southern California,

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<v Speaker 7>even down in the San Diego and for him to

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<v Speaker 7>come in and do that, you can see and hopefully

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01:16:22.239 --> 01:16:25.079
<v Speaker 7>there will be enough of those true fans from those

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<v Speaker 7>areas in the bleachers because I know the ticket prices

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<v Speaker 7>are crazy. They come out and support every single game.

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<v Speaker 7>They're huge, huge fans for him.

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<v Speaker 3>This was beyond big.

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<v Speaker 7>This was the biggest thing that ever happened in the

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<v Speaker 7>Latino sports community, I think in the whole Los Angeles area.

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<v Speaker 7>He just represented so much. He was so good, He

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<v Speaker 7>was so so good, yeah, screwballs and all that.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a no hitter as well, so just just an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible talent and that big smile. Our second hot read

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<v Speaker 2>takes us to the NBA Opening week and the Detroit Pistons,

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<v Speaker 2>who were terrible last year probably terrible again this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh Dwayne Casey, my man is now in the front office.

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<v Speaker 2>That happened about a year year and a half ago.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>JB.

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<v Speaker 2>Bickerstaff is the head coach, and last night his team

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<v Speaker 2>got teed up for having six men on the court.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what it sounded like on Pistons television and I

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01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:25.920
<v Speaker 3>got it. Got a guy just counting them off, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>guilty is charged? How many you got?

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<v Speaker 10>Three on one end of the court and three on

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01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:31.359
<v Speaker 10>the other end of the math all added up to

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<v Speaker 10>a technical fight, even though Bickerstaff tried to defend himself

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<v Speaker 10>and his team, Gary, But is there anything worse?

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<v Speaker 3>Especially in opening night?

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<v Speaker 7>Well, you got what are these guys in the clipboard

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<v Speaker 7>with holding the clipboards doing over here holding clipboards? I know,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure they're not math majors trying to count up

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<v Speaker 7>to six?

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<v Speaker 3>What are these guys? And I'll tell you what. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell you one.

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<v Speaker 7>Team that wish there was another guy in the court

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<v Speaker 7>with the sixers? And where's Joel Embiide on Opening Night?

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<v Speaker 3>What's all that about?

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01:17:57.840 --> 01:17:57.960
<v Speaker 6>Too?

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<v Speaker 2>No, who's no longer going to play back to well

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<v Speaker 2>play the first one then, Well, when he made that announcement,

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<v Speaker 2>did the Sixers ask for part of their money back?

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01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:10.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he signed that huge contract and now he

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<v Speaker 2>won't play back to backs.

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<v Speaker 7>What was he doing in the last couple of months

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<v Speaker 7>since the Olympics? Exactly wouldn't you be ready for the

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<v Speaker 7>first That's really screwy. If I was a Sixers fan,

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<v Speaker 7>I'd beat not happy at this point. One of the

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<v Speaker 7>knocks the media knox is he's never been in shape. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm sure one can lead to the other. But even

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<v Speaker 7>when he plays in a game, I promise you the

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<v Speaker 7>Sixers will have only five men on the court.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably all right. We can find our man Gary on

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<v Speaker 3>Twitter knee.

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<v Speaker 7>X at at nine to five five Gary, the same

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<v Speaker 7>joint you're found at.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm at Big Blue Insider one. Thank you, sir, enjoyed

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<v Speaker 3>the series, same to you. Gotta do it for now.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks to my guests, Gary Moore, to Sean Woods and

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<v Speaker 2>of course to Dicky Lyons Senior. Can't wait to see

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<v Speaker 2>him when he comes up. He'll be an SEC legend.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna go to the SEC football champion and

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<v Speaker 2>ship this year, but if I did, that would be

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<v Speaker 2>probably the number one reason. But it was good talking

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<v Speaker 2>to him again.

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<v Speaker 3>I hadn't talked to.

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<v Speaker 2>Him, like I said, since since Dicky was six or

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<v Speaker 2>seven years old, way back in the day. But great

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to him as well. Reminder, Kentucky football coming

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<v Speaker 2>up some forty five kickoff on Saturday five thirty airtime

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<v Speaker 2>right here with Christy Logan and Jeremy and then Jeff

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01:19:24.720 --> 01:19:26.800
<v Speaker 2>Tom and I will have a call the Cats and

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<v Speaker 2>the Auburn Tigers.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for joining us. That's it. Good night from the

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<v Speaker 3>garage and lexingon.

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<v Speaker 8>Now the three two swing. Huh a pop foul, it's

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01:19:36.720 --> 01:19:42.640
<v Speaker 8>back here. How ow wow, it really hit me. I

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<v Speaker 8>didn't know it was coming back that far.

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<v Speaker 2>Fava yea