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<v Speaker 1>Now one of your pudding. I got a string going

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<v Speaker 1>on here. Something just kid my dog.

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<v Speaker 2>Something killed your dog, my dog.

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<v Speaker 1>We're flying through the air, over the tree. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm really confused.

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<v Speaker 1>All I saw was my dog coming over the fence

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<v Speaker 1>and he was dead. And once you hit the ground like,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see any cars. All I saw was my

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<v Speaker 1>dog coming over the fence. What are you putting? We

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<v Speaker 1>got some wonder or something prowling around out here? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you see what it was?

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<v Speaker 3>Was?

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<v Speaker 1>It was standing enough. I'm out here looking through the

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<v Speaker 1>window now and I don't see anything. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to go outside. Jesus quiet, you're back or hello? Hit

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<v Speaker 1>the body out here?

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<v Speaker 2>What went on out there?

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<v Speaker 1>It's thought of a bit of about sixty fort nine.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know easy of out there? Yeah, the bulking

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<v Speaker 1>right head.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh hey, greetings is Fred and Alaska. Thanks for joining

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<v Speaker 2>me today. What I wanted to share it to you

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<v Speaker 2>today comes from Bernadette known as Bernie. It's been fifty years.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been a long time. She had a homestead at

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<v Speaker 2>one point with her husband. She was a widower at

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<v Speaker 2>the time of this incident. The way it went down

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<v Speaker 2>was is her husband would commercial salmon fish to offset

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<v Speaker 2>the cost of remote living and trying to make a

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<v Speaker 2>homestead going. Many years ago, she lost her husband in

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<v Speaker 2>a fishing accident, so she was left this homestead with

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<v Speaker 2>eight dogs. They didn't have chickens or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They just had sled dogs basically to commute back and

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<v Speaker 2>forth for their water supply, hunting, and all that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. Now, she was a much younger woman, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's still in the throes of mourning. She was

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<v Speaker 2>having a really rough go of it. She was pregnant

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, but miscarried due to the stress of

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<v Speaker 2>losing her husband, so she was not in the best place.

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<v Speaker 2>She had mentioned that she was at her most vulnerable

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<v Speaker 2>point when these incidents started occurring, which bothers me because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the first time I've heard it. It started

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<v Speaker 2>off with small harassments and she didn't know what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on. It started off with dogs. Two of her

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<v Speaker 2>dogs went missing. The chains were snapped, and she thought

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<v Speaker 2>they just got into a fight with a black bear

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<v Speaker 2>or something and they broke chains and ran off right.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that she was easily dismissing as life in the

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<v Speaker 2>wilds of Alaska. A few more weeks go on, there's

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<v Speaker 2>other stuff going on. Piles of brush that were piled

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<v Speaker 2>up by her husband at one point were scattered. One morning,

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<v Speaker 2>she made mention several times at a lot of things

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<v Speaker 2>were happening, but she was in the throes of depression

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<v Speaker 2>in mourning that she was just dismissing it offhand, not

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<v Speaker 2>even taking critical thinking time or none of it. Just Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>the wind blew the brush and something ran through. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a moose with its antlers was rubbing against it or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>Grant you, dogs didn't make a noise, which is odd

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<v Speaker 2>because the dogs would always bark at moose or whatever. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>she wasn't in her right space as far as paying

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<v Speaker 2>attention as she should. A few more weeks go by.

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<v Speaker 2>It's salmon season and she has people, of course donating

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<v Speaker 2>fish for her because she just lost a baby, lost

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<v Speaker 2>her husband, going through it right. So the neighbors that

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<v Speaker 2>were five, ten, twelve miles away or whatever, they were

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<v Speaker 2>looking out as best they could. She had processed all

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<v Speaker 2>the salmon and had it in the smokehouse. She was

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<v Speaker 2>tending to it daily. One morning she wakes up to

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<v Speaker 2>dogs yelping. They had eight, they're down to six. She

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<v Speaker 2>gets up to this yelping and it goes outside to

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<v Speaker 2>tell them to knock it off, because there was a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of dogs that were fighting for dominance basically since

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<v Speaker 2>the other two went missing, which were the two dominant

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<v Speaker 2>dogs in that little pack. So these other two had

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<v Speaker 2>been at it and she thought it was just them

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<v Speaker 2>doing that again. When she goes outside, she sees what

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<v Speaker 2>she thought was a very large man at the time

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<v Speaker 2>holding one of the dogs. She yells, hey, let go

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<v Speaker 2>of my dog, and this thing turns and just walks away, nonchalant,

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<v Speaker 2>carrying the dog dog was obviously deceased, just walks off

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<v Speaker 2>into the brush like she didn't exist. And so she

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<v Speaker 2>was just shocked by it, and she thought maybe she had.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I losing my mind? Did that just happen? Kind

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<v Speaker 2>of situation? Right? So she retreats back into the house

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<v Speaker 2>and she's contemplating, I need someone's help. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what the hell that thing is, but I need someone's help.

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<v Speaker 2>She doesn't know what to do at the moment, so

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<v Speaker 2>she decides she's going to stay inside keeping She got

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<v Speaker 2>her husband's rifle. She hadn't even thought about guns the

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<v Speaker 2>whole time he had been gone or whatever, even though

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<v Speaker 2>he told her and taught her how to use it

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<v Speaker 2>and everything like that. But so happens her husband had

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<v Speaker 2>forty five seventy right lever action old Marlin. So she

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<v Speaker 2>went and got that, got the ammal for it, loaded

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<v Speaker 2>it up, had it by the door. Now, she went

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<v Speaker 2>out and did her smoking stuff for her salmon. She's

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<v Speaker 2>processing it, doing her thing, and she made a specific

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<v Speaker 2>point to take those guts and go dump them down

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<v Speaker 2>at the river, which was quarter mile away. She had

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<v Speaker 2>the gun inside right inside the door because she's not

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<v Speaker 2>used to it and didn't really want to have to

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<v Speaker 2>use it. She kind of just left it alone and

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<v Speaker 2>had it nearby just in case because she wasn't thinking

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<v Speaker 2>Harry Man when she saw this large man walk off

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<v Speaker 2>with her dog. Again, She's going through a lot emotionally,

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<v Speaker 2>so she was just like, I don't want to shoot

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<v Speaker 2>a neighbor or someone that I didn't recognize in a

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<v Speaker 2>moment that may have been helped me out and I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't even know it or something. Just trying to dismiss it.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes and dumps this bucket of salmon. Carcass's just

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<v Speaker 2>flay out salmon or whatever. When she does that, she

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<v Speaker 2>hears weird huffing. But it's not like anywhere near she said.

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<v Speaker 2>She could hear it back up on a ridge just

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<v Speaker 2>above her house, this weird huffing sound. Or she thought bear.

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<v Speaker 2>She was like, oh, that's a really big bear. So

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<v Speaker 2>she drops her bucket, hauls ass back to the cabin,

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<v Speaker 2>gets inside, grabs a rifle. All the dogs were in

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<v Speaker 2>their little houses. They normally, with bears, they would be

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<v Speaker 2>outside of their houses barking unless the bear came close

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<v Speaker 2>and they've retreated inside and harassed the bear or whatever. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>they never stopped barking at a bear. Whatever this was,

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<v Speaker 2>They weren't barking. They all retreated in their houses, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So she doesn't know what to do. She listens for

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<v Speaker 2>a while. That huffing noise stops, the dogs come back

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<v Speaker 2>out of their houses. Things calm down. She sets the

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<v Speaker 2>rifle down and goes intends to her smokehouse. Now, as

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<v Speaker 2>she's tending to the smokehouse, she hears her dogs start

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<v Speaker 2>growling real, real loud. It was echoing from inside their

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<v Speaker 2>little doghouses, right, So she thought it was odd because

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<v Speaker 2>they were just all outside of their houses she steps

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<v Speaker 2>into the smokehouse less than two minutes, and they're making

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<v Speaker 2>all this noise from inside their individual doghouses. So she

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<v Speaker 2>sticks her head out of the smokehouse and she doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>see anything. It's just quiet. So she gets this eerie

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of being watched and retreats back to the house

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<v Speaker 2>after shutting the door real quick to her smokehouse. She

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<v Speaker 2>gets the house, grabs a rifle, comes back out with

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<v Speaker 2>a rifle, and standing there a minute, looking around, just

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<v Speaker 2>feeling very out of her own skin. She said she

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<v Speaker 2>was scared, but she didn't know of what. She says.

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<v Speaker 2>She went over to her smokehouse and opened some of

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<v Speaker 2>the vent doors on the side where this fish didn't

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<v Speaker 2>get too smokey. So she was tending to that while

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<v Speaker 2>being aware of what's going on around her and trying

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<v Speaker 2>not to feel like she's losing her mind, because she

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<v Speaker 2>was chalking a lot of this up to stress. You're

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<v Speaker 2>over exaggerating this because of that. You're over exaggerating this

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<v Speaker 2>because of this, because she's missing dogs, and if there's

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<v Speaker 2>stuff she's dismissing that, she freely admits she shouldn't have been,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was just too much at the time. So

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<v Speaker 2>when she gets the little event doors open and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, she retreated back into the house, set the

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<v Speaker 2>rifle up against the inside of the door, left the

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<v Speaker 2>door wide open, and sat on the four little steps

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<v Speaker 2>that came down from the cabin. She said. As she

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<v Speaker 2>was sitting there, she just started talking out loud to

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<v Speaker 2>her deceased husband, basically putting it out there, Hey, what

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<v Speaker 2>do I do? I don't know what to do. I

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<v Speaker 2>think maybe I should leave here. There's nothing here for me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's too hard and stuff like this. Now you got

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<v Speaker 2>to remember, this is fifty years ago. It's been a

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<v Speaker 2>while now. As she is doing this talking out loud,

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<v Speaker 2>she hears voices off in the distance, off to her left,

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<v Speaker 2>which would be down towards the river from the front

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<v Speaker 2>of this cabin. She thought, maybe neighbors are coming. She goes, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll go greet them, thinking happy thoughts like ah,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe my husband and spirit sent some relatives to come

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<v Speaker 2>visit or something. Because she was thinking I should have

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<v Speaker 2>heard a skiff for something, but she didn't. She just

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<v Speaker 2>heard murmuring off in the distance. She thought nothing of it.

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<v Speaker 2>She did, however, grab the rifle because of everything that

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<v Speaker 2>was going on and feeling watched. She felt unsafe, so

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<v Speaker 2>she grabbed the rifle and walks down the trail back

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<v Speaker 2>to where she just a little bit ago dumped the

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<v Speaker 2>fish guts right into the water. Of course, she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>dump them on the ground, but when she gets there,

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<v Speaker 2>the bucket was gone. She saw right where she had

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<v Speaker 2>dropped all the guts and stuff. It was like a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of an eddye, so the current hadn't swept

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<v Speaker 2>it all away. She noticed that the actual flat out

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<v Speaker 2>sammon themselves, not necessarily the guts and stuff, those were

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<v Speaker 2>all missing, right, And so she's standing there looking around

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out where the murmuring was coming from.

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<v Speaker 2>That she heard that drew her down there. And as

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<v Speaker 2>she's doing so, she's holding this gun, and she said

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<v Speaker 2>the gun was bigger than her. She's just a little

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<v Speaker 2>short at the basket lady. So she decides she'll look

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<v Speaker 2>around and start hollering out, hey, I'm over here, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>over here, this is Bernie. No one's responding, and then

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<v Speaker 2>she hears murmuring back towards her cabin, and she just thought,

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<v Speaker 2>what the heck, there's only one trail, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>hear anybody go and buy me. So immediately she got

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<v Speaker 2>very paranoid, and she starts walking back down the trail.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, as she was walking, she was trying not

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<v Speaker 2>to think about bad stuff. She was just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>think happy thoughts, to keep the clouds away, kind of mentality.

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<v Speaker 2>And she said, the closer she got, the harder it was.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, just as she was coming through the brush

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<v Speaker 2>on the trail where it opens up and you could

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<v Speaker 2>see where they had cut down trees and all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and they had the doghouses and the smokehouse and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>She was walking up. There's just a short little trail

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<v Speaker 2>up to the steps of the cabin, she said. When

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<v Speaker 2>she got to that little breakoff from the trail, that

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<v Speaker 2>ran forward, because she had the small house off to

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<v Speaker 2>her left and the short little run to the stairs

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<v Speaker 2>off to her right, and the doghouses in front of her.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, as she stood there, she froze because what

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<v Speaker 2>she was seeing in front of her she couldn't make

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<v Speaker 2>The two smaller ones that looked like bear cubs because

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<v Speaker 2>she said, we're about the same size. She didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>how tall they were, but much taller than her, very wide.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, they look like cavemen, caveman without winecloths. I

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<v Speaker 2>she just said they were just there. She had no

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<v Speaker 2>faces were dark, she said. She stood there for a

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<v Speaker 2>second and then slowly was turning the rifle. This rifle

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<v Speaker 2>she couldn't fully put up on her shoulder. She had

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<v Speaker 2>small to shoulder it properly. So she swung it under

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<v Speaker 2>her armpit and faced it towards these two creatures, and

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<v Speaker 2>they bolted different directions. Gone. She thought again, she was

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor, and retreats into a corner behind the

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<v Speaker 2>woodstove and just sits there quietly. She was crying. She

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't an actual prayer to Jesus or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 2>She was just asking for help, God help me. As

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<v Speaker 2>she was sitting there, bam, bam, she starts hearing this

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<v Speaker 2>pounding going on, and it sounds like it's opposite side

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<v Speaker 2>of the room, on the outside of the cabin. This

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<v Speaker 2>banging is happening. She's petrified, she's froze up. And as

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<v Speaker 2>sense that she needed to stand up for herself right.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, she doesn't know where it came from. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just in that moment. She stood up, walked over,

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<v Speaker 2>grabbed the rifle, opened the door, and she said when

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<v Speaker 2>them because that's what she just saw. Moments ago, was

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<v Speaker 2>standing by the smokehouse and was halfway in it. She

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<v Speaker 2>turned the rifle and bam, fired a shot. The scene

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<v Speaker 2>fell to the ground, rolled out of there, stood up,

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<v Speaker 2>and took off, running towards the river. Now, when it

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<v Speaker 2>took off running towards the river, she heard screaming from

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere else. It wasn't screaming from the one she just shot.

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<v Speaker 2>She heard screaming from up on the ridge behind the cabin.

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<v Speaker 2>And as she's standing there and shock like holy crap,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's trying to work that. The lever action sheet

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<v Speaker 2>unchambered the round, but she was having a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>closing it back up because it was pinched up in

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<v Speaker 2>her coat, and so she was working that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>looking down at that and not watching totally around her.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she heard the dump dump right and as

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<v Speaker 2>she's looking, she's just shutting it, putting another round in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and this thing runs by, one of the smaller ones,

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<v Speaker 2>runs by right, just right through the doghouses, past them,

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<v Speaker 2>taking off down towards the river. She didn't know what

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<v Speaker 2>to do, but she was emboldened like you better run,

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<v Speaker 2>but you better run. She goes down the steps hangs

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<v Speaker 2>that left to go down the trail, and as she

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<v Speaker 2>does so, she sees the other one coming out onto

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<v Speaker 2>the trail and taking the smaller one off to the right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the one of the larger ones comes off from

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<v Speaker 2>the left, gets a hold of the smaller one running by,

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<v Speaker 2>and they move off to the right of the trail

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<v Speaker 2>and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see We'll

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<v Speaker 2>be right back. After these messages, and its thick brush,

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<v Speaker 2>she can't see what they were doing, and she could

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<v Speaker 2>see the one she just shot further down the trail.

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<v Speaker 2>It stopped moving, it was just standing there. So she decides,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna shoot it again, and starts walking down the

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<v Speaker 2>trail that direction. She said, in that moment, all fear

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<v Speaker 2>was blocked out. It was like tunnel vision. She was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna shoot this one again. That was just in the smokehouse.

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<v Speaker 2>She said. She got about two three steps and then

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<v Speaker 2>she heard a loud, howling kind of scream coming from

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<v Speaker 2>the one down the trail. Now where she stopped was

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<v Speaker 2>just where the brush was starting to get heavier, outside

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<v Speaker 2>of where they cleared the area for this cabin, And

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<v Speaker 2>she said when she stopped there, she got down on

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<v Speaker 2>one knee to hold the rifle and try to aim

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<v Speaker 2>down the sights, and she was having a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>with it because she couldn't quite handle it good enough

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<v Speaker 2>to be able to get a good sight picture. So

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<v Speaker 2>she said, she stood up and calm me, started walking

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<v Speaker 2>that way again. The whole time that's happening. The scream

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<v Speaker 2>is happening. This thing is bellowing a scream, real loud.

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<v Speaker 2>And as she's going down the trail, she hears off

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<v Speaker 2>to her right, she hears the other one with the

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<v Speaker 2>little one, and there's weird. She said. It sounded like

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<v Speaker 2>you pick, but she couldn't tell what they were saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was that murmuring again, and she said, she's

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<v Speaker 2>listening to that, but she was focused on the ones

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<v Speaker 2>she could see, and she wanted to go over there

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<v Speaker 2>and shoot it again. So as she's going down the trail,

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<v Speaker 2>she said she was very focused to a dumb level.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are her words. She said, I was being very dumb.

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<v Speaker 2>She got about twenty feet into the thicker brush going

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<v Speaker 2>down this trail, and she noticed it was where she

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<v Speaker 2>had dropped the bucket not too much earlier. You got

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<v Speaker 2>to understand, this isn't just right over there. This is

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<v Speaker 2>a good little distance. She could see this thing still

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<v Speaker 2>on the trail further down, She got down on her

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<v Speaker 2>knee again, picked it up, bam, fired a shot, and

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<v Speaker 2>she said, when she shot the second time, this thing

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<v Speaker 2>crumpled down, jumped up, frog hopped a couple times, and

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<v Speaker 2>jumped into the river. She again was working that action

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<v Speaker 2>and held it out a little further away so she

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<v Speaker 2>was able to operate it properly. So she got another

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<v Speaker 2>round in there, and she heard that movement off to

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<v Speaker 2>her right explode the smaller one and one of the

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<v Speaker 2>bigger ones takes off across the trail out of you.

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<v Speaker 2>She only saw it briefly when it was on the trail,

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<v Speaker 2>quickly out of you, and howling sound going on, she said,

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<v Speaker 2>when there was a chorus of howling at least three individuals,

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<v Speaker 2>and she suspects it was two smaller ones and a

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<v Speaker 2>large one just by. Some of it was super high

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<v Speaker 2>pitched and the other had more of a bellow to it.

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<v Speaker 2>And immediately she froze, turned around and went right back

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<v Speaker 2>to the cabin, she said. When she got to the

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<v Speaker 2>cabin steps, she was shaking real hard. Everything was so surreal,

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<v Speaker 2>she said. The greens and all the different hues of

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<v Speaker 2>green seemed to be very vibrant and bright, she felt

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<v Speaker 2>herself going into shock. She didn't know what it was

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, but being older now and explaining it,

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<v Speaker 2>she realized that she was going into shock. At that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>She sat down on the second step from the bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was holding the rifle between her hands and

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<v Speaker 2>she was rocking and crying, not knowing what the hell

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<v Speaker 2>to do, she said. She sat there a good while.

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<v Speaker 2>There was other noises that happened that were down by

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<v Speaker 2>the river, but she couldn't make it out. She would

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<v Speaker 2>just hear it, notice it nothing nearby, so she just

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<v Speaker 2>went back to what she was doing. She said about

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<v Speaker 2>after that last noise she heard that got her attention,

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<v Speaker 2>she said, it had to have been forty five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>to an hour something like that. She hears the skiffs,

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<v Speaker 2>and she hears the skiff coming downriver. The only people

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<v Speaker 2>that usually came downriver where some the closest neighbors come

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<v Speaker 2>check on her right. So she sat there for a

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<v Speaker 2>minute given time, listening for the motor to get closer,

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<v Speaker 2>because she wanted to go and talk to somebody, but

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<v Speaker 2>she was scared of what just happened. So she gets

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<v Speaker 2>up when she assumes she's got time and she'll walk

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<v Speaker 2>down and there'll be someone to meet her there. Because

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<v Speaker 2>she heard the boat slow down and pulling up by

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<v Speaker 2>where they'd tie off skiffs, so she started on down there.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, every step she took was heavier than the

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<v Speaker 2>last one. By the time she got down by the

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<v Speaker 2>river bank, she was using that forty five seventy is

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<v Speaker 2>like a crutch to keep herself up, because she said

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<v Speaker 2>she felt so so heavy. I personally felt that feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to fight. So she said, what she got

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<v Speaker 2>down there, she recognized one of the neighbors was up

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<v Speaker 2>on the river bank. He had a rifle in his hands,

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<v Speaker 2>his head of scope. It was his Moose rifle. She

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<v Speaker 2>knelt down and was leaning onto this forty five seventy

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<v Speaker 2>watching him. The neighbor was pointing the rifle off to

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<v Speaker 2>her left and he was just looking through the scope.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he turns he sees her, of course, stops

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<v Speaker 2>what he's doing and runs over to her. She said.

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<v Speaker 2>When he came up, his eyes were real, real big,

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, that thing's over there. That thing's over there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, come on, you're coming with me. Come on,

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<v Speaker 2>helps her up, and they walked down to where the

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<v Speaker 2>skiff is. He took the rifle from her and helped

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<v Speaker 2>her because she was going through it. Man, the shock

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<v Speaker 2>was sitting in heavy. She was shaking really hard. She says.

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<v Speaker 2>She felt so cold but hot at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>That got her to the skiff. Her neighbor's wife helped

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<v Speaker 2>her in and their oldest son was with him. They

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<v Speaker 2>both were out of the skiff at this point while

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<v Speaker 2>she's taking to Bernie asking her what's going on? Them

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<v Speaker 2>to get up on the riverbank, she said, and was

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<v Speaker 2>out of you. She didn't know what was going on.

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<v Speaker 2>She sat there in shock, trying to explain what was

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<v Speaker 2>going on, but nothing was coming out. She would continuously

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<v Speaker 2>sob A few minutes later, she doesn't know exactly how

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<v Speaker 2>much time because she was severely trumize. At this point,

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<v Speaker 2>she watches them come back over and they're mumbling to

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<v Speaker 2>each other up on riverbanks. She couldn't hear what they

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<v Speaker 2>were saying. They jump into the skiff, they fire up,

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<v Speaker 2>and they take her up to their house. She said.

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<v Speaker 2>When they got to their house, she was coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of the fog of trauma. What she heard him saying

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<v Speaker 2>was is that when they pulled up they saw one

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<v Speaker 2>larger one and two smaller ones helping one of them

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<v Speaker 2>off into the brush. And they're having a hard time

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<v Speaker 2>because the one kept falling, they said. And they watched

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<v Speaker 2>that for a little bit until they were out of sight.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, this isn't all that far from their house,

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<v Speaker 2>not that far. They're concerned. As she was sitting there

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<v Speaker 2>being doctored by the neighbor's wife and consoled and all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff, they took off again in their

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<v Speaker 2>skiff to go down there. When they went down there,

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<v Speaker 2>they gathered up some of her stuff, some clothes for her,

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<v Speaker 2>some of her personal longings. And what they did was

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<v Speaker 2>is they unchained the dogs that were left. There was

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<v Speaker 2>like four of them left at this point. Something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Unchained them and had them jump in the skiff. The

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<v Speaker 2>dogs followed willingly, all except one. One took off running,

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<v Speaker 2>just took off. The other three followed them, got in

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<v Speaker 2>the skiff. They brought her belongings back, and they said

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<v Speaker 2>when they got back there, when they went to go inside,

416
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<v Speaker 2>the front door had been left open. But they saw

417
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<v Speaker 2>a small set of wet footprints and a large set

418
00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:35.920
<v Speaker 2>of wet footprints, and it smelled real bad inside the cabin.

419
00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:39.440
<v Speaker 2>The stove had been pushed over, and the sink that

420
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<v Speaker 2>was attached to a makeshift counter had been ripped out,

421
00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:47.640
<v Speaker 2>thrown out a window totally destroyed the window. In front

422
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<v Speaker 2>of where the sink area was, there was a dresser

423
00:22:51.240 --> 00:22:53.799
<v Speaker 2>that was knocked over. They had to flip that over

424
00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:57.640
<v Speaker 2>to get her clothes out. The place was trashed. They

425
00:22:57.640 --> 00:22:59.519
<v Speaker 2>didn't know what to make of it. They're like, what

426
00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:02.440
<v Speaker 2>the hell? So she tells him it was a harry Man.

427
00:23:02.559 --> 00:23:05.160
<v Speaker 2>They all have a discussion about the Harryman and stuff.

428
00:23:05.799 --> 00:23:09.319
<v Speaker 2>She had a really hard time. This was fifty years ago.

429
00:23:09.559 --> 00:23:13.920
<v Speaker 2>She had a really hard time expressing some of the details.

430
00:23:14.440 --> 00:23:16.839
<v Speaker 2>To get the details I did, it took a very

431
00:23:16.839 --> 00:23:20.039
<v Speaker 2>long time. You got to understand she's in her eighties now,

432
00:23:20.599 --> 00:23:23.799
<v Speaker 2>she no longer lives in Alaska. It was one of

433
00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:27.079
<v Speaker 2>her relatives had mentioned the channel and it took her

434
00:23:27.119 --> 00:23:29.640
<v Speaker 2>a while to reach out, and then it took a

435
00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:31.839
<v Speaker 2>while to get the complete story. So I want to

436
00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:34.599
<v Speaker 2>thank Bernie for doing that because it was not easy

437
00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:39.000
<v Speaker 2>for her. Again, this former homestead is on the Yukon.

438
00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:42.039
<v Speaker 2>I guess someone else is there now. One of her

439
00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:44.960
<v Speaker 2>distant relatives. She didn't want to say exactly where, but

440
00:23:45.079 --> 00:23:48.839
<v Speaker 2>it's on the Yukon River. She said she had talked

441
00:23:48.880 --> 00:23:51.559
<v Speaker 2>to those same neighbors over the years, off and on.

442
00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:54.240
<v Speaker 2>When telephones came more prevalent and all that kind of stuff,

443
00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:56.359
<v Speaker 2>she reached out and she talked to him, and come

444
00:23:56.400 --> 00:24:01.599
<v Speaker 2>to find out, their oldest son went missing. She said

445
00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:05.039
<v Speaker 2>about five years after the incident, he went out to

446
00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:10.319
<v Speaker 2>go caribou hunting and was gone. She blames herself, like

447
00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:13.519
<v Speaker 2>maybe something she did back then caused him to disappear.

448
00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:15.119
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, you don't know for sure.

449
00:24:15.519 --> 00:24:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Don't beat yourself up like that, right, Some of these

450
00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:21.599
<v Speaker 2>things that happen to people out in the wilds is

451
00:24:21.799 --> 00:24:25.680
<v Speaker 2>very hard for the average person to grasp being in

452
00:24:25.720 --> 00:24:29.839
<v Speaker 2>a situation like that until you've been in those shoes.

453
00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:34.480
<v Speaker 2>I'd refrain from passing any judgment as far as I've

454
00:24:34.519 --> 00:24:36.720
<v Speaker 2>heard it before. People like you shot at them, so

455
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:39.799
<v Speaker 2>you cause problems. That's not necessarily the case when they're

456
00:24:39.880 --> 00:24:43.799
<v Speaker 2>killing your critters and everything talking is done. As far

457
00:24:43.839 --> 00:24:48.359
<v Speaker 2>as I'm concerned, I want to thank Bernie for sharing that.

458
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:52.279
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't easy for It took quite a few calls

459
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:55.480
<v Speaker 2>to get that whole experience. When I was sharing with

460
00:24:55.519 --> 00:24:58.599
<v Speaker 2>her what I picked up from her chain of events

461
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:00.720
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. I was telling her own story back to

462
00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.240
<v Speaker 2>her to make sure I had it right. And that

463
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 2>was difficult too, because she kept breaking down crying. She

464
00:25:06.799 --> 00:25:09.559
<v Speaker 2>was essentially reliving it. I want to thank her, bless

465
00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:14.400
<v Speaker 2>her heart, thank her for sharing that wasn't easy. Alaska

466
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:16.400
<v Speaker 2>got to love it. What I wanted to share with

467
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:20.960
<v Speaker 2>you today outside of this creepy area, only creepy because

468
00:25:21.000 --> 00:25:22.680
<v Speaker 2>of the fog. What I want to share with you

469
00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:26.240
<v Speaker 2>today comes from Joseph's This happened in nineteen eighty seven.

470
00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:29.079
<v Speaker 2>He was young. He's my age, so he had to

471
00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:32.759
<v Speaker 2>have been eleven twelve ish at thirteen somewhere in there.

472
00:25:33.640 --> 00:25:38.119
<v Speaker 2>He just gained the trust of his dad to use

473
00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:42.559
<v Speaker 2>his dad's snow machine, which was arcticat jag Right. So

474
00:25:43.599 --> 00:25:46.200
<v Speaker 2>he has his own snow machine, which is a Yamaha

475
00:25:46.279 --> 00:25:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Bravo Little three P forty Cci. So he being older now,

476
00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:54.880
<v Speaker 2>his dad gave him the responsibility to go and get

477
00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>some hair some spruce chickens, basically do a little hunting.

478
00:26:00.079 --> 00:26:03.119
<v Speaker 2>He takes his two younger brothers with them, nine and seven.

479
00:26:04.160 --> 00:26:07.160
<v Speaker 2>They ride the little Bravo. He rides his dad's arcticat.

480
00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:11.799
<v Speaker 2>They're from Bristol Bay. They were west of Portage Creek,

481
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:16.319
<v Speaker 2>west of Sophie's Landing, basically on the New Shigak River.

482
00:26:16.920 --> 00:26:20.519
<v Speaker 2>Now when they went out, they're good many miles from home.

483
00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:23.599
<v Speaker 2>They had brought gas. He had his dad's eight millimeter

484
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:26.160
<v Speaker 2>rifle and a couple of twenty two rifles for the

485
00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:29.680
<v Speaker 2>smaller game. The bigger boar rifle was you never know

486
00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:31.559
<v Speaker 2>if a moose is going to attack you kind of thing.

487
00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:37.000
<v Speaker 2>So as they're going along, it's wintertime, of course, and

488
00:26:37.039 --> 00:26:39.640
<v Speaker 2>we don't get a whole lot of daylight. The particular

489
00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.839
<v Speaker 2>time of year, you were getting about three hours of

490
00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:45.240
<v Speaker 2>actual daylight and then the rest of the time is

491
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:48.240
<v Speaker 2>dusk for a couple hours to twilight. On both sides

492
00:26:48.240 --> 00:26:53.039
<v Speaker 2>of that, they were circling these little islands of black

493
00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:56.000
<v Speaker 2>spruce looking for porcupine, and they happened to find one.

494
00:26:56.480 --> 00:26:59.400
<v Speaker 2>They dispatched. They harvest the porcupine. He was teaching his

495
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:02.640
<v Speaker 2>little brothers shot placement, all that for proper harvesting, because

496
00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.200
<v Speaker 2>they use the quills for a native bead work. The

497
00:27:05.279 --> 00:27:08.200
<v Speaker 2>meat's not bad. It's kind of like really greasy chicken

498
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:11.160
<v Speaker 2>in my opinion, not a huge fan, but it's not bad.

499
00:27:11.720 --> 00:27:14.640
<v Speaker 2>So they're sitting there. He's shown them how to properly

500
00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:16.960
<v Speaker 2>stow it without getting quills all in your hands. And

501
00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:20.480
<v Speaker 2>so as he's doing so, the nine year old brother says,

502
00:27:20.519 --> 00:27:24.240
<v Speaker 2>there's a fox. He says, get it, turns and looks,

503
00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:28.079
<v Speaker 2>and he's watching with his own eyes this fox running

504
00:27:28.079 --> 00:27:30.759
<v Speaker 2>towards another group not that far away of black spruce.

505
00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:33.680
<v Speaker 2>They're like little islands because they're basically driving around on

506
00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:36.039
<v Speaker 2>the tundra, on the snow machines, and you got little

507
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:41.200
<v Speaker 2>outcroppings which are black spruce mixed in. So the reason

508
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:44.039
<v Speaker 2>I call them islands is because it's they're usually oblong

509
00:27:44.079 --> 00:27:46.240
<v Speaker 2>shaped and they're just a patch of black spruce and

510
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:49.119
<v Speaker 2>some wool alders and stuff in there. So his little

511
00:27:49.119 --> 00:27:51.119
<v Speaker 2>brother shoots at the fox and it runs off. He

512
00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:54.519
<v Speaker 2>missed it. They continue on with the porcupine. He says,

513
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:57.279
<v Speaker 2>once we're done with the porcupine, follow me. We'll see

514
00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.960
<v Speaker 2>if we can find out where that fox is hiding.

515
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you can get another shot on it, or maybe

516
00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:05.119
<v Speaker 2>it's after rabbit and we'll see some rabbit. No harm,

517
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:08.119
<v Speaker 2>no foul, Live and learn. As he's talking to his

518
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:11.720
<v Speaker 2>second youngest brother, The very youngest brother, who was seven

519
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.240
<v Speaker 2>at the time, says, what's that over there? They turn

520
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:18.200
<v Speaker 2>and look and they don't see anything. At this time,

521
00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:22.079
<v Speaker 2>there was a warm front moving into the cold air,

522
00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 2>so that creates very dense fog and it was rolling

523
00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:29.319
<v Speaker 2>in off of Bristol Bay. So he sees this fog

524
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:32.720
<v Speaker 2>bank coming and realizes, well, in that fog bank, it's

525
00:28:32.759 --> 00:28:35.359
<v Speaker 2>going to be hard to see, it's gonna be hard

526
00:28:35.359 --> 00:28:38.799
<v Speaker 2>to hunt. We should just pack it in, which is

527
00:28:38.880 --> 00:28:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Why's choice. So as they're doing this, he was doing

528
00:28:43.799 --> 00:28:47.359
<v Speaker 2>a couple of last minute things, refueling gas for both machines,

529
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:51.160
<v Speaker 2>just stand on top of it. Being the smart young

530
00:28:51.200 --> 00:28:54.319
<v Speaker 2>man his dad raised, he gets done. He's teaching his

531
00:28:54.359 --> 00:28:57.319
<v Speaker 2>brothers what he can and as they're sitting there and

532
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.759
<v Speaker 2>he's discussing what he's doing and why and just pointing

533
00:29:00.759 --> 00:29:03.880
<v Speaker 2>out certain things to his brothers that fog bank has

534
00:29:03.960 --> 00:29:07.000
<v Speaker 2>moved in on them. Now they knew the trail, they

535
00:29:07.079 --> 00:29:10.400
<v Speaker 2>knew the area, but in really dense fog makes it

536
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:14.359
<v Speaker 2>hard to navigate. So keeping that in mind, he was like,

537
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:17.079
<v Speaker 2>we'll wait a minute and then we'll just take our

538
00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.640
<v Speaker 2>time on the trail. We're refueled on gas. We're good.

539
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:23.119
<v Speaker 2>They decide, they fire up the machines. They are going

540
00:29:23.160 --> 00:29:26.000
<v Speaker 2>to go over to a larger little band of black

541
00:29:26.039 --> 00:29:29.079
<v Speaker 2>spruce and willows and check for rabbits, since they're right

542
00:29:29.119 --> 00:29:32.000
<v Speaker 2>there now. He knew he had about an hour or

543
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>so before it started getting dark and had to really

544
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>be beaten feet home, so he figured he'd kill that

545
00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.720
<v Speaker 2>time looking for rabbit. They get over there, he tells

546
00:29:41.759 --> 00:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>his little brothers, you guys, go on your machine, circle around,

547
00:29:45.000 --> 00:29:46.480
<v Speaker 2>come back around and meet me and tell me if

548
00:29:46.519 --> 00:29:49.559
<v Speaker 2>you see any fresh sign. But yes, they agree. May

549
00:29:49.720 --> 00:29:53.079
<v Speaker 2>he hears, and he listens, and they're going slow out

550
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>of sight, and he's guestimating at this point on the

551
00:29:56.240 --> 00:30:00.599
<v Speaker 2>other side of this little island of black spruce. He

552
00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:05.599
<v Speaker 2>hears the machine power up and sees them tearing away,

553
00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.680
<v Speaker 2>and stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll

554
00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:15.759
<v Speaker 2>be right back after these messages not coming back towards him,

555
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.200
<v Speaker 2>so he chases after him, cuts him off, gets them

556
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:20.799
<v Speaker 2>to stop, and they're panic. They're like, there's a Harry

557
00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Man over there in the fog over there in the

558
00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:25.240
<v Speaker 2>trees is right over there. We saw it it was

559
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:28.519
<v Speaker 2>standing right there. So he's a calm down. You probably

560
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:32.039
<v Speaker 2>just saw a group of cluster of trees. Let's go

561
00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:34.480
<v Speaker 2>take a look. They wanted no part of it. They

562
00:30:34.480 --> 00:30:38.240
<v Speaker 2>were freaking out there crying. He had his dad's eight millimeter.

563
00:30:39.240 --> 00:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>That's a powerful rifle. He goes over there by himself.

564
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:45.519
<v Speaker 2>He tells him stay put, takes their key so they

565
00:30:45.519 --> 00:30:48.640
<v Speaker 2>couldn't be scared, and take off without him. Rips back

566
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:51.720
<v Speaker 2>over there, and as he's getting to where he assumes

567
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:55.720
<v Speaker 2>they picked up speed, he notices movement in the black spruce.

568
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:58.599
<v Speaker 2>He's aow. That must be a moose because it had

569
00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:02.200
<v Speaker 2>a brown tens to it. Now, what he was looking

570
00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 2>at was the shoulder of this creature. At his angle,

571
00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 2>it looked like the rump of a moose. We don't

572
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 2>need a moose, but if it's a good moose, maybe

573
00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:15.799
<v Speaker 2>i'll harvest a moose. He thought about it for a

574
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.599
<v Speaker 2>minute and was like, nah, I probably shouldn't do that.

575
00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:20.599
<v Speaker 2>It's getting too close to dark, and my little brothers

576
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.880
<v Speaker 2>are too small to really pack quarters out. So he

577
00:31:23.960 --> 00:31:26.759
<v Speaker 2>opted against it and decided he would flush it out

578
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:29.799
<v Speaker 2>and see how big it was. So he circles around

579
00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:33.759
<v Speaker 2>and starts cutting a trail through the black spruce. They

580
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:36.680
<v Speaker 2>were tight, but he was on his dad's new articat.

581
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:40.079
<v Speaker 2>He was tearing through there, making a whole bunch of ruckus,

582
00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 2>makes it all the way through, doesn't see the moose again,

583
00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>and as he clears and comes out on the other side,

584
00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.880
<v Speaker 2>he's looking off to where his brothers are. He goes

585
00:31:51.920 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>over there, hands them to the key and says, it

586
00:31:53.519 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 2>was a moose. It was a moose, And they're pointing

587
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:00.920
<v Speaker 2>back at the trees on his trail, just inside the

588
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>tree line that he just came out of. This thing

589
00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:06.680
<v Speaker 2>was standing there, swaying back and forth. And as this

590
00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 2>is going on, the fog is getting thicker, it's getting

591
00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 2>harder to see. They just see a dark shadow moving

592
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.640
<v Speaker 2>back and forth, and he was really trying his best

593
00:32:15.640 --> 00:32:17.720
<v Speaker 2>to wrap his mind around what he was actually seeing.

594
00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 2>He was trying to wrap his mind around what the

595
00:32:21.079 --> 00:32:25.000
<v Speaker 2>hell was happening just approximately not even fifty yards away,

596
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:27.680
<v Speaker 2>just like right over there. He hands the key to

597
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.720
<v Speaker 2>his little brother says, start it up, go to the

598
00:32:30.759 --> 00:32:35.119
<v Speaker 2>main trail and wait right there. I'm gonna use a

599
00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.160
<v Speaker 2>faster snow machine and try to get a better look

600
00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:40.079
<v Speaker 2>at it without getting too close, and they're like, don't

601
00:32:40.119 --> 00:32:42.400
<v Speaker 2>do it, don't do it. He wasn't gonna listen to

602
00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:45.000
<v Speaker 2>his little brothers. They take off for the trail and

603
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 2>he starts cutting back. This thing has been standing there

604
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>the whole time, just inside the black spruce, kind of

605
00:32:50.480 --> 00:32:53.359
<v Speaker 2>swaying back and forth. Fog is thick. He could still

606
00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:57.559
<v Speaker 2>see the dark shadow as he's getting closer, because he's

607
00:32:57.599 --> 00:33:00.599
<v Speaker 2>trying to gain speed to make a sharp year just

608
00:33:00.599 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 2>to get a closer look and still stay up to

609
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:07.359
<v Speaker 2>speed without slowing down. As he's getting closer, and the

610
00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:11.480
<v Speaker 2>headlight starts to get closer as well, and starts penetrating

611
00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:14.039
<v Speaker 2>the fog a little bit. It moves, and it starts

612
00:33:14.720 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 2>moving away from him, but just inside the tree line,

613
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:22.480
<v Speaker 2>so he parallels it as it's going through the trees,

614
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:25.200
<v Speaker 2>and he's just looking over to his left watching this thing,

615
00:33:26.200 --> 00:33:32.319
<v Speaker 2>and then it really starts moving. It bolted, he said.

616
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:35.799
<v Speaker 2>He track speed was probably fifty or sixty miles an hour,

617
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:39.279
<v Speaker 2>and this sing just took off, sped past him, cut

618
00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:43.279
<v Speaker 2>across and went back across the open tundra into the

619
00:33:43.319 --> 00:33:46.799
<v Speaker 2>fog towards that other little island. They've just harvested the

620
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<v Speaker 2>porcupine at right, not all that far away, so he's

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<v Speaker 2>just intrigued. He needs to go back that same direction

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<v Speaker 2>to catch up with his brothers, and that dawns on him.

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<v Speaker 2>His little brothers are that way too. No longer worried

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<v Speaker 2>about this thing, he wants to get to his little brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>so he starts hauling ass as fast as he can.

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<v Speaker 2>As he passes that little island of trees where they

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<v Speaker 2>harvested the porcupine, he notices, just off into the fog

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<v Speaker 2>off to his left, still this thing was still there.

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<v Speaker 2>He could just barely make out the shadow of it

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<v Speaker 2>as it was moving. He couldn't tell how fast because

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<v Speaker 2>he was moving fast, but he was guestimating it. It

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<v Speaker 2>had to have been moving about the same speed he was.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a little panic stricken, worried about his little

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<v Speaker 2>brothers hauling ass. Once he gets up and catches up

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<v Speaker 2>catches trail of his little brothers, he follows their tracks.

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<v Speaker 2>He followed them all the way back to where it

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<v Speaker 2>meets up with the Noushigak River more towards the mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they had to go upriver to cross and

639
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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff. But that's where he met

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<v Speaker 2>up with them. Now, when he caught up with them,

641
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<v Speaker 2>they were sitting there waiting on him. They were panic stricken, scared,

642
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<v Speaker 2>where's our brother? So they were relieved when they I

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<v Speaker 2>saw him. When he got up to him, they kept

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<v Speaker 2>pointing at him, and he goes, yeah, I'm here, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 2>He hits the kill switch and they point and start

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<v Speaker 2>driving away. He turns around and looks. This thing is

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<v Speaker 2>in the trail behind him, approximately maybe sixty feet at

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<v Speaker 2>the most, swaying back and forth watching him. He said

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<v Speaker 2>he could hear the gurgled breathing. It wasn't breathing hard,

650
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<v Speaker 2>it was just big and breathing. He said. He fired

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<v Speaker 2>up the snow machine. He was so shaken up he

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<v Speaker 2>could barely hold the throttle, and he followed his little brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't look back for a long time, and he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't see anything. So they ended up going following the

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<v Speaker 2>wood river back on up to Elecnigig, through the trail

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<v Speaker 2>and all that stuff. They end up going home from there.

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<v Speaker 2>That happened in nineteen eighty seven. He shared this with

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<v Speaker 2>me a while ago. I've been waiting for a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of fog. It's starting to you can see it's

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<v Speaker 2>still a little fog is starting to lift now. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna thank Joseph for sharing that with me. Outside of

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<v Speaker 2>him and his little brother's talking about it every once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while, we're the first to hear his whole experience,

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<v Speaker 2>and I thank him for sharing. There is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of stories of the little people I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>sharing here in the near future. For every hairy Man's

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<v Speaker 2>story I get when I talk to people, nine times

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<v Speaker 2>out of ten, the next thing out of their mouth

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<v Speaker 2>is I got some little people experiences too, So we'll

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<v Speaker 2>be delving into that as well. His friend Alaska, thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for joining me. I'll catch you guys on the next one.

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<v Speaker 4>They say, you don't gotta go home, but you can't stay.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to be world outen.

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<v Speaker 4>Means chot this job, that chid every day came, get back,

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<v Speaker 4>pry back the joy for me, joy, stay right, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Come in right away.

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<v Speaker 5>Steps steps instead set steps, do.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't talk about the games.

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<v Speaker 5>Steps us still states gas Stass