Speaker 1: Welcome to Big for Society. If you have Bigfoot activity
Speaker 1: to report from the same areas discussed in this episode,
Speaker 1: please reach out to me directly after this episode. And
Speaker 1: if you'd like to be on the podcast to discuss
Speaker 1: a personal Bigfoot encounter, please reach out to me directly
Speaker 1: at Big for Society at gmail dot com. Do you
Speaker 1: wish there was more Big for Society to listen to
Speaker 1: you every week? Well there is now. If you become
Speaker 1: a supporting member over at Patreon, you get a special
Speaker 1: members only episode every single week on Wednesdays, and sometimes
Speaker 1: even more episodes. Head on over to patreon dot com.
Speaker 1: Forward slash the Big for Society and now let's get
Speaker 1: on with the show. All right, pick what society you've
Speaker 1: got the privilege of talking to Johnny today. Johnny's an individual,
Speaker 1: got a long history of being involved with logging out
Speaker 1: there in the Pacific Northwest and also in Colorado, and
Speaker 1: I've got some really interesting things to share on the
Speaker 1: show today. So welcome to the show, Johnny. Thank you, Jeremiah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and happy birthday as well, sir.
Speaker 2: Yes, I appreciate that you got it in.
Speaker 1: Let's get right into it, because you already said there's
Speaker 1: a lot for you to share. It sounds like, so,
Speaker 1: you know, Johnny, I'm going to go ahead and give
Speaker 1: things right over to feel free to take us back
Speaker 1: to where we need to be when this all started
Speaker 1: for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So well, I'm my name is John and go by Johnny,
Speaker 3: and I've lived in the Pacific Northwest border raised and
Speaker 3: go straight to my first encounter. About five and a
Speaker 3: half almost six years now. I lived in a little
Speaker 3: town called Clear Lake, Washington, and I was smoking cigarettes
Speaker 3: at the time. Of course that's not a good out,
Speaker 3: but I would wake up to have to go to
Speaker 3: the restroom in the middle of the night, and would
Speaker 3: go down and go out on my front porch because
Speaker 3: most of the time it's raining, you know, whether it's
Speaker 3: spring or fall. But it was early spring, and I
Speaker 3: just stepped out on the porch and it was dark
Speaker 3: and lit a cigarette and like a thousand coyotes and
Speaker 3: a tiger war all at the same time to the
Speaker 3: point that it felt like, now I did it vibrate me,
Speaker 3: but it vibrated the front of my house, and I
Speaker 3: just kind of went and just kind of just threw
Speaker 3: my cigarette out in the yard and Alison locked the
Speaker 3: door and I was kind of just talked to myself, Wow,
Speaker 3: there ain't much I could do right now if that
Speaker 3: thing wanted to come get me, because as big as
Speaker 3: it sounds, I'm not messing with it.
Speaker 2: So and it was a clear and vocal because.
Speaker 3: Then I heard heavy footsteps, so it was I don't
Speaker 3: know if I startled, it is what I was thinking,
Speaker 3: probably because I noticed that in that area, when they
Speaker 3: come back in the spring, whether wherever they come from,
Speaker 3: they like to push trees out into the roads. You'll
Speaker 3: go like a mile up certain roads and there'll be
Speaker 3: a tree that the top just barely sticks out and
Speaker 3: the road a couple two or three feet, and then
Speaker 3: a mile or two later there'll be another one. But
Speaker 3: there'd be no windstorms or anything during that time. And
Speaker 3: then I almost thinking that they're marking their way that
Speaker 3: they're coming back in, and I letting others know that
Speaker 3: they're you know, traveling up power lines or going back
Speaker 3: to wherever their feeding grounds, probably on the early spring
Speaker 3: and through the summer. So and that was kind of
Speaker 3: my first you know, close enough that it really I mean,
Speaker 3: it really scared my pants off. And then we'll go
Speaker 3: to my second one, and so I'm by now. I've
Speaker 3: bought in a place in a small town called marble
Speaker 3: Mount in Washington, and it was a heavily timbered acre
Speaker 3: and a half, and being from a logging family, I
Speaker 3: was really excited about it because I got it for
Speaker 3: a good price and I could log it. And my
Speaker 3: youngest son was staying with me fifty percent of the time,
Speaker 3: and so I was driving back and forth from Marblemount
Speaker 3: to clear Lake to take him to school or dropping
Speaker 3: him off or pick him up. On a Friday night,
Speaker 3: I'd having Friday till like Tuesday, and I remember it.
Speaker 3: I dropped him off that day to go see his
Speaker 3: mom and he would spend I think it was Tuesday through.
Speaker 2: Friday or whatever it was.
Speaker 3: When I picked him up and I was coming back
Speaker 3: on a well traveled road out of Cedar Woollie, and
Speaker 3: it was like, I'm just driving along in my little
Speaker 3: Diesel Volkswagen needle and all of a sudden, a very
Speaker 3: young adolescent sasquatch just came kind of like it. It
Speaker 3: was like Michael Jordan. It must have jumped, you know,
Speaker 3: fifteen or twenty yards before the road, because it came
Speaker 3: down in the middle of the road and did a
Speaker 3: little stutter step and then jumped again. And there was
Speaker 3: probably seven of the Highland cows that were up.
Speaker 2: Against the road.
Speaker 3: You know, it was fenced along the road and it
Speaker 3: cleared the highland the cattle there, and then there was
Speaker 3: very tall grass that they hadn't cut for hay yet.
Speaker 3: You know, it's three and a half four feet tall.
Speaker 3: And by the time I got up to him, and
Speaker 3: I probably maybe an eighth of mile was all And
Speaker 3: by the time I got up there was gone. But
Speaker 3: I could got a real good description of him. He
Speaker 3: was jet black, kind of a conical head, very lengthy arms, skinny,
Speaker 3: though he looked he didn't look unhealthy, but he looked
Speaker 3: like he was young and skinny, you know, like everybody
Speaker 3: is when they're in their youth. But and then when
Speaker 3: he was stretched out his his arm stretched out, you know,
Speaker 3: like when he hit it was like one arm went
Speaker 3: forward and the other one went back. And I noticed
Speaker 3: a very almost a rangutang orange under his armpit, you know,
Speaker 3: like where he sweated at would be the color of
Speaker 3: He was jet black and shiny as could be. And
Speaker 3: as I pulled up in my Volkswagen, I'm kind of
Speaker 3: looking for him and then all of a sudden, just
Speaker 3: a fear come over me, and I'm like, what the
Speaker 3: heck am I doing?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 3: This thing just come out of the sky, is what
Speaker 3: it's like. And you know it had to jump. I
Speaker 3: would hate to say how many feet it probably jumped
Speaker 3: it to arc like that, I kind of explained it
Speaker 3: like if you ever watched Michael Jordan do a three
Speaker 3: pointer when he hits the top of the key and
Speaker 3: it seems like he's just floating up, up and up,
Speaker 3: and then as he as he comes down that arc,
Speaker 3: that's exactly what I got.
Speaker 2: To see him hit a double step and go.
Speaker 3: So that was my second encounter, about the same year
Speaker 3: as I had the screamer on the front porch. So
Speaker 3: then we'll go to the next one I have, which
Speaker 3: again is about two years later. And I've been actively
Speaker 3: logging my property and of course traveling my son back
Speaker 3: and forth. And it was Friday, and then I picked
Speaker 3: him up and we'd always barbecue, and it's summer, and
Speaker 3: I live in an area where there's a lot of bearers,
Speaker 3: and there's some cougars and boll cats.
Speaker 2: And and sasquatch. I mean.
Speaker 3: Many at times I've heard him screaming in the back
Speaker 3: or getting in fights amongst themselves where you'll it'll sound
Speaker 3: like very much a female and yelling at something and
Speaker 3: then they'll yell back and forth, and you know, me
Speaker 3: and my son look at each other and go whoa.
Speaker 2: And I go, yeah, that's that's fast, squatch. That's nothing
Speaker 2: else does that. So when we were.
Speaker 3: Where my property is, it's heavily wooded from the power
Speaker 3: lines all the way to the Scadget River, and so
Speaker 3: there was really from the power lines to the river,
Speaker 3: there wasn't anywhere that you know, they could go through
Speaker 3: there and not be seen.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, my acre and a half had big timber on
Speaker 3: fifty two inches on the butt my second growth for
Speaker 3: unlock a lot of here, and so I logged it.
Speaker 2: And at the time I was living.
Speaker 3: In my fifth will, which was a toy hauler, and
Speaker 3: like a regular Friday night, we had dinner and we
Speaker 3: went to bed about ten thirty eleven and about two
Speaker 3: thirty three, me and my son were woken, which at
Speaker 3: first I thought that my trailer got hit by a
Speaker 3: car that come off the highway. They did actually hit
Speaker 3: my trailer because it through me and kind of like
Speaker 3: I was slammed my feet where you know, I lay
Speaker 3: on my back, so my feet went up against the wall.
Speaker 3: It stood me up out of a dead sleep, like
Speaker 3: something hit the trailer that hard. And my son, he
Speaker 3: was slammed into the wall. He was just he was,
Speaker 3: and we both were kind of dazed and we kind
Speaker 3: of went I literally felt like the trailer's wheels left
Speaker 3: the ground on that side, and so I thought a
Speaker 3: car hit. You know, sound asleep, maybe I didn't hear
Speaker 3: the crash. And I went to open up that door.
Speaker 3: My son goes, Dad, don't, don't, don't open that door.
Speaker 3: And I go, why Son? He goes, no, it's a squatch.
Speaker 3: He says, no, it's a squatch. Dad, I know it is.
Speaker 3: He goes I can feel him, and I go, what do.
Speaker 2: You mean, Keith.
Speaker 3: He goes, no, don't go outside. It's it's not a car. Seriously, Dad,
Speaker 3: it's it's a you know, kind of a swear word.
Speaker 3: And I kind of jumped him about it, but he was,
Speaker 3: it's a squatch.
Speaker 2: It's Dad. I hit that.
Speaker 3: I hit that wall so hard, and so where his
Speaker 3: bed is is. I gave him the larger bed that
Speaker 3: raises up and down that you raise up, put your
Speaker 3: four wheelers in, and you travel with it up. Well,
Speaker 3: when it's down, it sits about right in the middle
Speaker 3: of that wall. Now, when that's the asquatch hit that
Speaker 3: like a probably a football player put his shoulder into it.
Speaker 2: It actually broke both walls.
Speaker 3: And I still have pictures of my phone today where
Speaker 3: you look at my fifth will and it's like something
Speaker 3: bulged it out back there where it literally sticks out
Speaker 3: like six inches farther and six inches in where it hit.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, the grounds so rocky up there no footprints
Speaker 3: at all. And so that was them kind of letting
Speaker 3: me know. I believe that they were not real happy
Speaker 3: about their super highway there being long. And it wasn't
Speaker 3: soon after that that I happened to be sitting in
Speaker 3: my toy haller and was I think having a snack
Speaker 3: or a cup of coffee, and it was dark out,
Speaker 3: just about dark dusk, the same here, but it was
Speaker 3: more in the fall and older sasquatched. It was probably
Speaker 3: around seven and a half feet, but very gray, very
Speaker 3: much a gray almost reminded me of like an old
Speaker 3: gray poodle color, like when the blacks starts to turn gray.
Speaker 3: Salt and pepper and it probably four steps, made it
Speaker 3: through an acre and a half. But I can remember
Speaker 3: as I watched him, it was one, two three, and
Speaker 3: he looked over at my trailer and he had a
Speaker 3: look on his face like he was so sad, Like
Speaker 3: he was visibly sad. He looked like, oh, you know,
Speaker 3: what's he doing here?
Speaker 2: Like you know, wow.
Speaker 3: That kind of struck me, you know, kind of you
Speaker 3: know that they have intelligence and they do recognize obviously
Speaker 3: when they're a little super highway there that they ran
Speaker 3: back and forth from the power lines. It has been logged,
Speaker 3: I'm sure between the one boatdog and the trailer and
Speaker 3: then the old one that was expecting to probably come
Speaker 3: out in the woods like it always has. And well
Speaker 3: it's clear cut. I'm quite sad. And so then that's
Speaker 3: that one. And then we're going to go to about
Speaker 3: a year later. So this has probably been about two
Speaker 3: years ago. And unfortunately, or not unfortunately, but I like
Speaker 3: to go to the casino. And so the back way
Speaker 3: to the casino from Marble Mountain is five thirty and
Speaker 3: that goes back through Darrington and you know, you can
Speaker 3: go back and into Arlington and you can go to
Speaker 3: Angel the Wind's Casino. Will I like to go really
Speaker 3: early in the morning, usually on weeknight, to go gamble.
Speaker 2: A little well.
Speaker 3: On my way back, I was coming back where there's
Speaker 3: a road about halfway down the five thirty in between
Speaker 3: Rockport and Darrington where you can cross over to get
Speaker 3: to the South s Gadget Highway. The Scadget down well
Speaker 3: as I was coming up, and it's a fairly sharp curve,
Speaker 3: you know, to watch it, just slow down at me
Speaker 3: think it is forty miles an hour. I noticed a
Speaker 3: this truck come out and it was local natives and
Speaker 3: they are allowed to net the socks toaddle, and so
Speaker 3: the truck comes out and doesn't even stop, and obviously
Speaker 3: they could see that I'm coming, but I mean it
Speaker 3: just peels around the corner, just sideways, and bodies are
Speaker 3: rolling out of the back.
Speaker 2: You know that they normally tie on the one end
Speaker 2: of their nets.
Speaker 3: And then as I get closer, this Volkswagen Jetna comes
Speaker 3: out and the windows are down and I can clearly
Speaker 3: see that they're Native and they come around the corner
Speaker 3: and I mean they're they're flooring it. And so I'm
Speaker 3: just slowed down by that guy's already slowing down to
Speaker 3: forty and then the big boy that was right behind
Speaker 3: him come out behind him, and it was a very
Speaker 3: large male Sasquatch, and it really startled me because of
Speaker 3: the size.
Speaker 2: I mean he was.
Speaker 3: He was enormous, I mean two steps across that road
Speaker 3: and it was no effort, and he had blood red
Speaker 3: eyes and they were the size of cubeballs, and he
Speaker 3: stared right at me, and he was mad.
Speaker 2: He was on them natives.
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, maybe this is just my opinion,
Speaker 3: but I've heard that through other tribes that they will
Speaker 3: actually come in when they're netting. The locals kind of
Speaker 3: know that they're hungry, and so they noted they pull
Speaker 3: their debts in and leave them some fish and then
Speaker 3: give them some space, and they will actually come in
Speaker 3: and gather fish. And I think these guys didn't have
Speaker 3: any fish to give. And I think it was not
Speaker 3: happy because it was right I mean, it was right
Speaker 3: behind them, and and what you could tell it was
Speaker 3: it was determined to try to snatch one of them,
Speaker 3: or try to hit the car or something. And then
Speaker 3: I startled it, and it was mad at me, and
Speaker 3: then it went off the road and I kept going.
Speaker 3: Now that really, you know, I'm scared that living crap out.
Speaker 3: I mean, so I floor it. I'm going to try
Speaker 3: to catch these guys. Not to say that I'm an
Speaker 3: habitual speeder, but my little car was a Mercedes. So
Speaker 3: I'm doing one hundred and fifteen to finally catch up
Speaker 3: to these people. And it's pretty straight and I mean this,
Speaker 3: and I'm smelling annie freeze and I'm seeing smoke finally
Speaker 3: come out. I'm finally catching up to the jetto, which
Speaker 3: was the last one.
Speaker 2: And as I.
Speaker 3: Got right up behind it finally and before they turned off,
Speaker 3: the motor was blown. I mean, the anti freeze was
Speaker 3: pouring out oil, smoke. I mean, they're and where they
Speaker 3: pulled off. I pulled in next to them, and they
Speaker 3: just pulled off and then they were kind of halfway
Speaker 3: went in the driveway, and I looked at him and
Speaker 3: I said, are you guys okay? And they just they
Speaker 3: did not want to talk to me. They were white
Speaker 3: as ghosts. They said, get out of here. We don't
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're talking about. We don't want
Speaker 3: to talk to you, don't want to see you, blah
Speaker 3: blah blah. But they were you could tell that they
Speaker 3: were scared, that that encounter that they have was probably scary,
Speaker 3: like real scary. And believing the size of that sasquatch
Speaker 3: and the look he had on his face, you know,
Speaker 3: I would have been scared too, because it meant business.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was not a happy camper. And so that's uh,
Speaker 3: a few of them that I've had, and if you
Speaker 3: want me to keep going, I have a couple more,
Speaker 3: and that would probably be about it.
Speaker 1: I got a few questions that last one. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just that's you said, that's just two years ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, two years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeh goodness. And and you literally see a huge, angry
Speaker 1: male sasquatch chasing after these vehicles down down the road.
Speaker 1: Holy mackerel.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were and they were netting at that time,
Speaker 3: in which they usually do.
Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean I was. I was floored by that.
Speaker 3: And then the funny thing is is I was going
Speaker 3: two days later, I was going the other direction through
Speaker 3: that ass curve and I don't know if it was
Speaker 3: maybe it's just me. A bird that normally would not
Speaker 3: be out at night was thrown at my I mean,
Speaker 3: it just came out of nowhere and just smacked my
Speaker 3: window right smack in the middle of the driver's window,
Speaker 3: like something was thrown a baseball at me.
Speaker 2: But it was a bird.
Speaker 3: And I was like, whoa, I mean, and I went,
Speaker 3: there's no birds out here, you know, because again I
Speaker 3: was on my way to the casino and I had
Speaker 3: a good night the day that I saw the big
Speaker 3: male Sas squats and I actually think it recognized my car,
Speaker 3: and I think it chucked the bird at me.
Speaker 2: I really do, because I hit my so hard.
Speaker 3: I mean, it was for me being and it was
Speaker 3: like it had some philosophy behind it, and there was
Speaker 3: no way that little brown bird you know you usually
Speaker 3: see jumping around the bushes, I don't see him fly
Speaker 3: that path. So that's just my feelings of it. But yeah,
Speaker 3: and I kind of went, wow, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 3: So I started kicking a long way after that for
Speaker 3: a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The the Sas question that you saw, you know, running
Speaker 1: after these vehicles, and and you'd mentioned that it had
Speaker 1: blood red eyes. Do you remember any other details of
Speaker 1: the face of it.
Speaker 3: It was it was a not so much of a
Speaker 3: conical head, but it was it was just massive. I mean,
Speaker 3: this thing had to be oh, I would say twelve
Speaker 3: hundred pounds. It was a it was huge. All I
Speaker 3: know is is that it literally looked like it was walking.
Speaker 3: We took three steps to make it cross the road,
Speaker 3: and I mean I was like, and then have it.
Speaker 3: And when it turned around and it looked at me,
Speaker 3: it looked at me with hatred anger. You could just
Speaker 3: see it was. It was pissed. It didn't show any
Speaker 3: teeth or anything, but those eyes. I just I remember
Speaker 3: those eyes. And I could remember that look on his
Speaker 3: face of just discussed, like, you know, this guy just
Speaker 3: spoiled my You know, I'm not eating here today because
Speaker 3: of these three vehicles he or you know, whatever it
Speaker 3: took place, you could just tell he was not happy
Speaker 3: and so and I remember how big he was because
Speaker 3: he kind of turned sideways.
Speaker 2: My god, he was.
Speaker 3: His chest was you know, the width of his chest
Speaker 3: was brighter than my car, you know, I mean he
Speaker 3: was huge. In the legs they were like as big
Speaker 3: as telephone bolts. I mean, this thing was absolutely massive,
Speaker 3: very long, hair, kind of a blackish with a red
Speaker 3: kind of in it. And yeah, it just, uh, it
Speaker 3: kind of floored me. And I'm I love Native American descent.
Speaker 3: O GiB ojibaweh All my mother side didn't find out
Speaker 3: after she passed away because of the fishing and the
Speaker 3: boat decision here in Washington State and where the natives
Speaker 3: were allowed to net didn't sit well with the locals.
Speaker 3: So the family members were told not to tell anybody
Speaker 3: that they were dated just because people would get beat
Speaker 3: up and you know, stuff would happen. So I didn't
Speaker 3: even know. That's how well the secret it was kept in,
Speaker 3: you know. And I've heard that tribes have interactions when
Speaker 3: they're netting with Sasquatch, and.
Speaker 2: I know some are on the.
Speaker 3: Well west side the coronault in them and they don't
Speaker 3: get anybody around when they're neddy.
Speaker 2: They don't let any locals.
Speaker 3: They don't let any white people because they do they'll
Speaker 3: come in and start shaking trees and raising the little hell,
Speaker 3: you know, to bring in a net full of fish.
Speaker 2: So that's just one of my you know, my thoughts.
Speaker 3: I'm sure that one was quite mad, because yeah, I
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to run into that one. And there's also
Speaker 3: a rumor that says on the five thirty that the
Speaker 3: east side of the highway is the devil Squatches side
Speaker 3: say that there's a if you're picking mushrooms, you don't
Speaker 3: want to pick on the east side of that road.
Speaker 3: You want to pick on the west side. If you
Speaker 3: get in on the east side, something will run you
Speaker 3: out of there and it's not very friendly. And so
Speaker 3: I've always kept heed to that because I picked mushrooms
Speaker 3: in that area too, And then I'll go to one
Speaker 3: more in town, and then I'll stay with a couple
Speaker 3: more for our next one.
Speaker 2: If you don't.
Speaker 1: Mind, absolutely go right ahead.
Speaker 3: Just this year, of course, it's shantrall season and I
Speaker 3: love chantrell. So we're picking right off the five thirty,
Speaker 3: just past the Sox throattle tribe, which is you know,
Speaker 3: I won't get the it's general area, good mushroom picking
Speaker 3: all over in there. And so we're picking mushrooms. It's
Speaker 3: hot out, you know, it's the middle of summer. It's
Speaker 3: you know, and we can hear the birds and the
Speaker 3: squirrels are kind of chirping at us because they're mad
Speaker 3: because you know, we're picking mushrooms and they like to
Speaker 3: run you offward thing they do. And we're back in
Speaker 3: there quiet ways all day to football fields and kind
Speaker 3: of dance, you know, the bonding. Maples are kind of
Speaker 3: being in pain, and me and my girlfriend at the
Speaker 3: time just kind of noticed it got silent, and she goes,
Speaker 3: you know, it just got quiet, and I said, well,
Speaker 3: you're right kind of you know, feeling like the hair
Speaker 3: raises up on your neck and you kind of feel uneasy.
Speaker 3: I felt uneasy, but I didn't feel fear, you know,
Speaker 3: I felt like it's time to go.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It's like that feeling where it's time to exit the woods.
Speaker 3: Nothing needs to tell you, it's just you know. So
Speaker 3: we worked our way back out and picking mushrooms all
Speaker 3: the way out. I had her sit in the car
Speaker 3: and I said, hey, I'm going to walk down this
Speaker 3: little spur road here because I found some really nice
Speaker 3: ones along behind these really big trees. And these fir
Speaker 3: trees are you know, fifty two fifty three inches on
Speaker 3: the bed, so they're pretty good second growth, you know,
Speaker 3: they're not an old growth, but big second growth. And
Speaker 3: so I'm walking back towards and of course we're on
Speaker 3: the side on the east side, we're on the west side,
Speaker 3: so you know, we're not going to run a devil
Speaker 3: squatch as they call him, and I just happen to
Speaker 3: be walking, and just before I get to this real
Speaker 3: big fur excuse me cough, I happen to see something
Speaker 3: g listen in the sunlight. And it's probably thirty five
Speaker 3: feet away from me, and it'll grow stump. It has
Speaker 3: some ferns growing out of it. You could see where
Speaker 3: they had their springboards in when they cut it back
Speaker 3: in then it was eighteen sixties or whatever. It's a
Speaker 3: very large stump and there's a Sasquatch. It's sitting there
Speaker 3: with his arms and his face is right on his hands,
Speaker 3: and he's as tall as the stump is stumps. When
Speaker 3: I went back and measured, it was just a little
Speaker 3: under ten foot and so he was sitting there, so
Speaker 3: he was dark near probably pretty close to eleven and
Speaker 3: a half feet is when I figured how big he
Speaker 3: was unless he was standing on something. His head was huge,
Speaker 3: very ape looking rang a king, but very black, readily skin,
Speaker 3: very dark, dark black eyes. But that's what that's what
Speaker 3: made me see him, because I would not have seen
Speaker 3: him if it wasn't his eyes listened in the sun.
Speaker 3: I just happened to step right where the sun reflected
Speaker 3: off his.
Speaker 2: Eyes, and I went, what is that?
Speaker 3: And then I went as I stared a little bit longer,
Speaker 3: and I'm like what And then when you get that
Speaker 3: moment my cell phones in my back pocket, You think
Speaker 3: I would have pulled that out and took a picture.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 3: I sat there and went, holy cow, that thing is huge.
Speaker 3: It wasn't menacing. It never blinked, an eyeball removed and
Speaker 3: muscle and I was like, holy cow, that one's big.
Speaker 3: And I go, it didn't seem aggressive, but it was
Speaker 3: watching me. And so I sat and stared at it
Speaker 3: and stared at it, and I went, wow, this is
Speaker 3: really crazy. I'm like within thirty five feet of a
Speaker 3: very large sasquatch. I mean, this one, this is real.
Speaker 3: This is you know, you're almost like face to face
Speaker 3: of this thing. And it's like nonchalantly just sitting there
Speaker 3: with his arms on top of that stump and his
Speaker 3: head kind of pushed in through the ferns.
Speaker 2: And I'm like Jesus.
Speaker 3: When I didn't know really what to do, because I
Speaker 3: didn't feel threatened, you know, I kind of had that
Speaker 3: feeling it was time to leave the woods. So I
Speaker 3: went ahead and stepped past that fir tree and kind
Speaker 3: of peeked my head around and see if he's still there.
Speaker 3: And he was gone, And what really blew me away
Speaker 3: is he didn't make one sound. There wasn't a tree break,
Speaker 3: there wasn't a crunch, nothing. It was gone and never
Speaker 3: made a sound. And that floored me. And I literally
Speaker 3: went and got in the car and started to drive away,
Speaker 3: and I told my girlfriend about it. She goes, I
Speaker 3: felt like there was something that was kind of watching
Speaker 3: us out there for a while. I said, so did I,
Speaker 3: But I thought maybe it was a cougar or something.
Speaker 3: And no, it was just a very large sasquatch. Whether
Speaker 3: it be female or male, I don't know, but that
Speaker 3: was that was one that kind of yeah, kind of
Speaker 3: the oh wow moment. I'm not in the top of
Speaker 3: the food chain here.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: It wasn't aggressive, but definitely kind of puts you back
Speaker 3: when you see something that large that actually lives in
Speaker 3: the Pacific Northwest and coming from a logging family, this
Speaker 3: log since the nineteen forties. All my cousins and uncles,
Speaker 3: you can ask them about sasquatching. There is the word
Speaker 3: that they've never seen one, never seen a footprint, nothing.
Speaker 3: And tell you the truth, all the logging jobs I
Speaker 3: was on, all those years, we would never see a
Speaker 3: footprint or anything. So that's kind of I'm swear I'm
Speaker 3: gonna tie it up right there. That's kind of the
Speaker 3: meat of the fact. And then I have a few
Speaker 3: more that's happened here now. That one was just this
Speaker 3: last summer. Everybody knows, and like I said, the area
Speaker 3: is the Cascades, you know, Highway twenty and five thirty,
Speaker 3: and so those are my.
Speaker 2: Close and personal counters up to this point.
Speaker 3: And then I got a couple more two to share
Speaker 3: with you, maybe another episode if that works for you.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean, those are some some wild stories, and
Speaker 1: thank you so much for sharing. Johnny. Yeah, I do
Speaker 1: have to ask you while you're you're here in this one.
Speaker 1: You know, you've had a few sightings over the years,
Speaker 1: and you know when when someone is like Johnny, you know,
Speaker 1: a bigfoot or sasquatch, you know, what is it that
Speaker 1: we're looking at out there? What is it that you saw?
Speaker 1: How would you explain it? Is it more of a
Speaker 1: some kind of ape or maybe some kind of human.
Speaker 3: You know, it's it's it's kind of a very I
Speaker 3: call them a North American aide. I mean, they're they're
Speaker 3: they're not an eighth. They don't really have an eight.
Speaker 3: They don't really have a chimpanzeely some have a conical head. Summer,
Speaker 3: you know, have different things. And then from our from
Speaker 3: being ojibaway from Upper Wisconsin, you know there's interactions there
Speaker 3: that you hear through fork you know, folklora, and there's
Speaker 3: I guess several different species. I'm not an investigator or
Speaker 3: I don't go out to try to find these. I'm
Speaker 3: usually out in the woods either cut firewood, hunting, logging,
Speaker 3: or just minding my own business, picking mushrooms or rock
Speaker 3: hounting or doing a little gold panning or something.
Speaker 2: And that's why I live where I live.
Speaker 3: There is I can four wheel, I can be a
Speaker 3: baker or Shannon Lake with my ski boat in forty
Speaker 3: five minutes, and I can enjoy the outdoors. I wasn't
Speaker 3: expecting to run into any of these or see any
Speaker 3: of those. And just the last five years has been
Speaker 3: mind boggling phenomenal. I mean it's left me speechless. I've
Speaker 3: always been a believer. Of course, the Gimling film, and
Speaker 3: you know, I always knew there was something out there
Speaker 3: because I could hear him scream. I've heard a lot
Speaker 3: of vocals throughout the years and tell you see one,
Speaker 3: it's kind of really it'll put you back because they
Speaker 3: are very large, very smart, very intelligent. You know, they
Speaker 3: have facial features and from the vocalizations I've heard when
Speaker 3: I've I've heard a couple of them getting scolded by
Speaker 3: one and one that was chasing those two poor natives
Speaker 3: or those natives that were netting there. I felt bad
Speaker 3: for them guys, because the look of fear in their
Speaker 3: faces was was was some I'll remember for a long time.
Speaker 3: You just don't know, you don't see that kind of
Speaker 3: fear in people. I mean, were they're literally pasting painted
Speaker 3: white and there they're they're want nothing to do with you.
Speaker 3: They don't want to even remember what just happened, you know.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I mean I don't think i'd ever I'd
Speaker 1: ever forget something like that if if I was able
Speaker 1: to be in a situation like that, either side of it,
Speaker 1: I mean your side or their side, really, either side
Speaker 1: has has got to be crazy to be part of.
Speaker 1: But you know, Johnny, thank you so much for for
Speaker 1: coming on the show the first time and sharing what
Speaker 1: you've experienced. And this is an area of Washington we
Speaker 1: don't actually hear a lot of so it's pretty special
Speaker 1: to to have you on to I think this is
Speaker 1: our first time maybe even hearing from Marble Mountain. But yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so much. We'll be in touch
Speaker 1: for sure to have you on again to h to
Speaker 1: maybe share some more about what you've experienced over the years.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then I also have a roommate, unfortunate that passed
Speaker 3: away here recently of cancer, and he'd had several encounters
Speaker 3: in that area and in areas of Montana where he
Speaker 3: worked at and he shared those with me. And you
Speaker 3: don't find me stories next time. Absolutely, they're pretty wild too.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but hey, I appreciate your time Jere in Miami,
Speaker 3: you know, I really do. And by no means that
Speaker 3: I ever expect that this happened to me, But you know,
Speaker 3: they they are out there, and you know this. When
Speaker 3: you get that feeling that it's time to leave, it's
Speaker 3: time to believe. And you know, if you ever come
Speaker 3: across one, I don't know. I just always kind of
Speaker 3: just went, oh boy, that one that I got close to,
Speaker 3: I just kind of slowly moved in my recall, right,
Speaker 3: and then I didn't go mushroom picking the rest of
Speaker 3: the year there, yeah, so.
Speaker 2: And then and contemplating on maybe not going this next year.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm kind of thing him, Man, that's a
Speaker 2: good place, but I don't know if I want to
Speaker 2: go back.
Speaker 1: Yeah is it that good though?
Speaker 2: You know, you never know, but yeah, yeah, right, there's
Speaker 2: a lot very up there.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: But anyway, I do appreciate your time to your mind, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: and you have a.
Speaker 1: Have a good rest of your birthday, Johnny.
Speaker 2: I sure will, thank you, sir, all right, you bet
Speaker 2: my bye.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to take a few minutes to say
Speaker 1: thank you to you Holmand listeners for listening to the podcast.
Speaker 1: Please take a minute to help out the show by
Speaker 1: subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so
Speaker 1: you don't miss any noteifications, and share the episode on
Speaker 1: YouTube with a friend. Also, if you're listening to us
Speaker 1: on a podcast, thank you so much. Make sure that
Speaker 1: you're subscribed, share the show with a friend. Really, it's
Speaker 1: all about sharing the show wherever you can. If you've
Speaker 1: had a Bigfoot encounter related to the following, or know
Speaker 1: someone who has, please reach out to me at Bigfoot
Speaker 1: Society at gmail dot com. Or pass on my email.
Speaker 1: Here's the list the Subtle Lake area of Oregon, Rainbow Oregon,
Speaker 1: McKinsey Bridge area, Sweet Home, pretty much that entire area,
Speaker 1: the north part. If you get what I mean, I'll
Speaker 1: see you back next time. Listeners. SASA Summerfest this year
Speaker 1: July eleventh through the twelfth. It's going to be fantastic.
Speaker 1: July eleventh through twelfth in Greenwaters Park and Oakridge, Oregon.
Speaker 1: And listeners, if you're going to go, you can get
Speaker 1: a two day ticket for the cost of one if
Speaker 1: you use the code b f S like Bigfoot Society
Speaker 1: but BFS and it'll get used some off your cost.
Speaker 1: Priscilla was nice enough to provide that for my listeners.
Speaker 2: So there you go.
Speaker 1: I look forward to seeing you there, So make sure
Speaker 1: you head over to www dot Sasquatch Summerfest dot com
Speaker 1: and pick up your tickets today