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Speaker 1: What a great track to kick off, and we have

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a fate one here with us in studio. How are

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you welcome?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing well, I'm doing well. How are we today?

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Speaker 1: Good?

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Speaker 3: Good?

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Speaker 1: Uh? Did we meet you through Hope the Rapper?

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Speaker 3: Was?

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Speaker 4: I believe that a post that Hope the Rapp will

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put up is oh what led us to be here today?

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Speaker 1: Right right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, something he put up, and then I reached out

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to that directly to Jen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we've got We've been doing this ten weeks

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of New World radio premieres of Hope the Rapper singles,

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and yeah, it's been a big success. And today this

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was week ten, the last one eviction. Notice that we

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played a little bit ago. But yeah, another great track

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from him. He's he's amazing, he's so talented, and of

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course he was with us during the first hour today.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, correct me if I'm wrong. I think you guys

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did Problems right, Yes, yes, I was on Problem.

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Speaker 1: You were on that one? Oh okay, cool? Cool? Yeah

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you've done Have you done a couple of tracks with him?

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Speaker 4: I have a few that I have done, some unreleased

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and oh some release.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, okay, And that track I don't know, is

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that brand new.

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Speaker 2: Uh that's fairly new.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the one that I'm pushing right now that I've

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just been working on, uh, you know, just making sure

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to get it out there. It's some plain, bold message,

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nice quick sweet Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 2: Can you pull that mic in a little Yeah?

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Speaker 1: That that? Yeah? That makes up?

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Speaker 2: How are we doing? Oh?

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Speaker 1: That's better? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, absolutely right. So you said

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you were talking off air about you've got a video

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coming up for that or.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So I shot a video about two weeks ago

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and I'll be releasing it next week next Saturday, on

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my birthday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, is that the Will this be the

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first video you've done?

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Speaker 2: No, this will be my ninth video.

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Speaker 1: Oh okadd yeah yeah, oh wow.

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Speaker 4: It'll be the first video I do with Crispy Pick,

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which is a photographer out of Manchester.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, And how did you get connected with uh?

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Speaker 2: That is a person and a company.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, gotcha.

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Speaker 4: So Crispy Pick we originally connected about two years ago.

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I booked him for a showcase as a photographer. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, okay, this will be Did you say

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this will be the first one with.

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Speaker 2: Uh with Crispy?

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Speaker 1: Okay, how did you do the previous ones? Did you

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work with somebody else.

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Speaker 4: Or was it all they So all the previous ones,

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So out of my nine videos, four of those videos

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are from One Eye Visuals.

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, hope, hope work.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: Him and I we you know, around the same circle,

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around the same people, and we've been lucky enough to

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just have great talent and then just great people around

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us to continue.

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Speaker 2: To work with us.

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Speaker 4: And then you know a few other videographers Dynamic TV

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and Gil Videos, you know, which is just all great

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people all around and stuff like that. I've mainly worked

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a lot with One Eye Visuals and I continue I'm

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have some plans and some ideas for some future projects

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, how do you define the genre that that

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Speaker 4: Kind of so it's a mix. So I'm a singer songwriter. However,

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the way that I write, I write like a rapper.

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Speaker 1: Right, That's interesting to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so.

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Speaker 4: My writing process is like, you know, rapper brain almost,

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and then I'm singing it. So I like to call

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it something like an R and B hip hop because

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ninety percent of the beats I choose our hip hop. Yeah,

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but I'm always singing behind them, whether I'm doing it

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in a different tone or you know, less vocals, more vocals,

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you know. So say I sound like a rapper, Yeah,

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but I don't classify myself as a rapper.

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Speaker 2: I'm a singer, songwriter, vocal engineer.

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Speaker 1: Right right.

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Speaker 1: No, that's interesting to me because when I first when

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you sent me your music and I'm I'm it's like

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each of the tracks, it starts out it sounds like

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I'm expecting rapping, and then you're singing and it's like, oh,

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it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, It's how I diversify myself. And you know, it's

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just what I originally loved. You know, I grew up

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listening to hip hop, hip hop, R and B, Latin music, merengue. Yeah,

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it's just a melting pot of music, and I've taken

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those influences and just have kind of created my own sound.

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like it's I'm one of the only ones doing that

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kind of sound. You don't hear many artists like myself today,

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you know, And it's just something that I enjoyed doing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was commenting to off air. I appreciated

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that I didn't not that I mind doing it, but

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I didn't have to make any radio editsa which was nice.

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Speaker 4: You know, I pride myself in making not only my

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job easier, but also you know, making sure that my

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lyrics and everything fit into play so that way I

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don't have to censor myself I have to change lyrics.

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I don't have to, you know, memorize two different versions

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of a song, yes, which is something that's difficult within itself,

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you know, right, you know, when you have a portfolio

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like myself, you know, it's a lot to remember, you

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got me. Yeah, just keeping it simple, you know, Simplicity

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is genius. I do believe in the words that I

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say as well, just practice what I preach.

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Speaker 1: How many you mentioned your portfolio? How many songs have

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Speaker 2: So released?

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Speaker 4: I have, you know, anywhere from twenty to thirty songs? Oh, okay, yeah, yeah,

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you know, it could could be a little less, but

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I don't have that exact number unreleased. I have over

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one hundred songs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I own my own studio, so I have the ability

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to just go wake up, go right into my studio

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and get get to working. Yeah, so I have that

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freedom and that accessibility. So that's an upside rather than

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for two hours, which I still do, sure, but I

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Speaker 2: Rather it at home.

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Speaker 4: The reason why I learned to engineer and to edit

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my own vocals was because I would go to a

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studio and it would hear my vocals and immediately want to.

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Speaker 2: Add autotune to it. Yeah, and it's cool.

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Speaker 4: I understand what that that plugin does and what what

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didn't call for it. But every engineer that I wanted

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wanted to add into it. So I learned. You know,

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paying for my time, and I you know, watched and

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just paid attention. And that I did some further research,

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educated myself, took classes on pro tools, a pro tool

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certified engineer, and you know, it's been going from there.

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That song I don't know, uh, mix and mastered by myself.

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Speaker 4: So it's nice when you can do it yourself, and

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therefore you don't have to explain what you're looking for, right,

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you know that sound in your head, right, and you

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can just pretty much duplicated right then and there. Yeah, me,

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that I love is just hearing something in my head

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and then creating it and putting it in sound.

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Speaker 1: That's that's one of the things that's so interesting about

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creating music is that you know everyone, everyone's different and

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has kind of their own process. And we were even

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talking about this today with Hope the Rapper when he

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was on with us in the first hour, because he's

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someone who really likes to collaborate and kind of have

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somebody else's ideas brought into the process, whereas it sounds

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like you're more someone who you knows what you know,

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what you want and that's that's what you're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, nothing against other engineers or anything. But

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let's do it this way, this way, this way, and

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then they try everything that they can to get that sound.

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final mix and it's not what you want and you

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need a revision that requires more money, more time. One

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thing I don't like doing in this world is wasting

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time or money. Money we can get back. We can

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never get our time back. True, you know, so time

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to me is very important. You know, money is replaceable.

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Speaker 1: You know, when when you would run into that, like

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the engineer or the producer who's telling you, no, no, no,

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we should do it this way. Is that like what

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is their motive? Like, do they are they kind of

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saying to you this is how you have to do

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it to fit in so you can have a hit

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or or is it more just we just think it

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sounds better this way.

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Speaker 4: It could be more of the we just think it

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sounds better this way. Yeah, you know, more opinionative, you know,

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if I'm paying for this time and I'm paying for

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something to sound a certain way, I would expect it

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to be the way at least, you know, close to

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what I want.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: It's like when you go purchase something at a store

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and you want that item. You know you're gonna go

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get that item at that size, right, You're not gonna

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go get it two sizes larger or the one that's

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a different color, but it still has all the same wordings.

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you know, make sure you get that that particular thing.

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Speaker 2: You know. Then you know, if.

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Speaker 4: I and being in this studio, you know, I've had

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people where they suggestive towards the way I should do

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certain things. You know, the song problems would help the rapper.

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Hope wrote. He's a great lyricist, you know, so he

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has a good.

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Speaker 2: Time when it comes to writing.

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Speaker 4: And then you know, we changed it last minute in

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the studio and then I took a couple of takes,

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you know, and they were like, all right, we got

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Speaker 2: You know this that all right? Boom? That was it?

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Speaker 4: And it's that criticism is always accepted, but you know,

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and we can you know know where that goes from.

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five years. Really, yeah, me, who knows where I'd be

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had I been taking it a lot serious a lot earlier,

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you know. But that's not here nor there. We're here today,

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and I'm very appreciative and humble to be sitting in

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his chair and meeting you as well, you know, and

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going forward from there on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, we're glad you're here. Do you work

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with other artists in terms of producing since you obviously

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you have that skill set?

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Speaker 4: Yes, and no, so I have, you know, like like

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I said, Hope and I have worked a long time.

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I've done a couple of songs for his for him titles.

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I can't tell you off the off the back because

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he has so much music and I listened to a

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lot of it, so like, you know, I can't tell

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you the title of the song, but know there were

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a few of those that were recorded in my studio.

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They could have been they could have started as reference

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tracks in my studio and then been brought to another

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studio and been like, all right, this is how I

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want it to sound. And you know he reached that.

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Speaker 2: And then who else? My nephew, Jordi dt A.

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Speaker 4: He's also a local artist out of Nashville and he's

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been in my studio multiple times.

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Speaker 2: I hope to.

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Speaker 4: Work with mister Goodbard soon working in his studio. Hell

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of an artists amazing, yeah, hell of an artist, great educator.

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He has so much information and he's one of those

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artists that I respect because he doesn't keep any of

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that information.

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Speaker 2: Excuse me. He puts it out something similar to what

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I do. You know?

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Speaker 4: If I know something, you know, I'm gonna share it.

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I have no secrets, I don't keep. All you need

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to do is ask me, and if I have the answer,

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I'm gonna give it.

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Speaker 2: To you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good Bars is amazing too, because he's

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so diverse, like he produces so many different kinds of music.

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It's remarkable.

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Speaker 4: I originally started following good Bars when he was with

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the band Sepsis yea yea yeah, as their keyboardist, and

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I think.

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Speaker 1: I think that's when I first met him too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how long I've been following him. Yeah, and

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then I think over this past year we met face

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to face. We've always had social interactions online and stuff,

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and this year we were at the same show and

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we met, and you know, one of the things that

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I remember him saying was like, see, I know about you.

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He goes, You're one of those artists that got all

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the ducks in a row, and I was like, yeah,

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you know, like I just I do a lot of

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behind the scenes things. I don't brag. I don't share

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many things they can all share the day of and

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you know, I don't have too much of an online

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presence because I'm so busy trying to do things in.

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Speaker 2: The real world.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you know, so I got to figure out

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a way to get both of them, you know, but

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with time that will come.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. Where are you from Did you grow

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up here?

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Speaker 4: I'm originally from Lawrence, Massachusetts, and I've been living in

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Nashville for over the past thirteen years, you know, so

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to represent Nashville, it's I'm not one of those where

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I'm like, oh, I'm from Lawrence. No, I represent where

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i'm at. Yeah, you know, and I'm in Nashua. It's

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been a beautiful community to me. Yeah, a lot of

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good things happening there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: It has brought me a lot of success. I've shot

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multiple videos in that city. The video I don't know

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that's coming out next week is shot right in the

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middle of Main Street. Oh yeah, We're going right down

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Main Street, you know, have people interacting and stuff like that. Yeah,

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and just really had a good time doing it, showing

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some of the businesses and the beauty of Nashville.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know how many people get to show that or

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they don't want to, you know. Me, on the other hand,

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I do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Some artists get upset there, you know, they're like, oh,

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my community don't support me. Well, what have you done

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for your community?

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Speaker 1: Right exactly?

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Speaker 4: So I'm doing things backwards and I'm trying to give

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back to my community, doing small events and stuff, back

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to school give backs, you know, hopefully partner up with

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somebody like mister good Bars and be able to help

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the kids learn how to engineer, learn how to you know,

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deal with music production and things like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, those are the hopes, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just if we speak it into existence and put

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the work into it, it is possible.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope was talking about it in the first

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hour or two, and I didn't know this. At the

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Boys and Girls Club in Nashville, they've got like they

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have a studio, which I had no idea. That's really cool.

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Speaker 4: I only know that because both my nephews went to

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the Boys and Girls Club when I first moved in

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moved to Nashville thirteen fourteen years ago, and that's something

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that they lived in the studio. My nephew learned how

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to create beats and you know, live sound audio and

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it all stemmed from the Boys and Girls Club in

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New Hampshire.

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Speaker 2: You got me.

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Speaker 4: Imagine if someone you know, my age thirty four had

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that opportunity to be able to go to the Boys

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and Girls Club and be inside of a studio, you know,

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who knows.

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Speaker 2: Again, where I would have been memory for me.

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Speaker 4: Boys and Girls Club was at the ping pong table.

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We were over here and doing this that on the

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ping pong table exactly, And no slight on the Lawrence

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Boys and Girls Club. But you know, hopefully they have

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stepped up. I don't know, but yeah, with such a

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large music scene and then you know, it seems like

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if it's just growing and growing, So you know, hopefully

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it's something that they do have. Yeah, I know they

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have multiple studios out there, but what are we doing

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for the community right right?

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Speaker 1: Exactly? Yeah, yeah, because when I think of the Boys

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and Girls Club, I think of athletic type things. Yeah,

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so I was surprised when he was talking about the studio,

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but I said, that's that's really cool.

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Speaker 4: It's an opportunity for those young kids that do love music,

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all that are lost and don't know something what to do.

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You know, you're good with video editing, you're good with

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this that you know you you have a great opportunity

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to become something you know, self made, right, you get

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me where you don't have to depend on the corporate

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America right and actually live the American dream as they say.

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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, exactly exactly. Well, we should play another track yeah, definitely,

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So which I'll let you pick if I would have

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to pick.

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Speaker 4: All I know, all I know. Yeah, that's one of

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my most popular singles. Oh okay, it's a crowd pleaser.

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It's a song that I wrote and dedicated to my wife.

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Speaker 1: Oh very nice, very nice? Is she is she listening?

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 2: She should be, I hope.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah cool, All right, here we go. I

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got it. All right, we'll give this a listen. If

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you're just joining us, We have fate one here with us,

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live in studio, and this is called all I know.

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Speaker 5: Let me take you out to space. Let me take

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you out your place yet, let me take you out

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to space.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you out to space. Let me take you out

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your place? Yeah play. All I know is all I

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know when I know I can control what canby for.

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Let me take you out of space yet you have

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to spell. Let me take you out to place yet.

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All I know is all I know when I.

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Speaker 7: Know I can't control what can be for.

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Speaker 8: Let me take you out your comfort zone. Promise you

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won't be alone. Just nor Molas coming clocking out after

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the close, No matter.

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Speaker 6: If I'm on the row, you know, moments.

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Speaker 7: Under go, making sure we never making sure we never broke.

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Speaker 6: And this is all I know under question.

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Speaker 7: Never vote from the concrete, wen rose from the jungle,

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king to grow.

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Speaker 6: I know all I know I can't control. Let me

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take you out of space. It you have to spell.

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Let me take you at your place, Yet you play.

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All I know is all I know.

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Speaker 7: When I know I can control what can evil? Let

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me take you out of space, yack, you have to spell.

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Let me take you out of place.

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Speaker 6: Yet all I know is all I know.

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Speaker 7: When I know I can't control, work came for Let

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me hear your heart.

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Speaker 8: Don't hunt, discuss amazing just the way you are.

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Speaker 6: Trust some loyal tingles fun. Let me take you to mark.

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Speaker 7: We can see the stars walk down Hollywood. But firehouses

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and carts set some goals to start.

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Speaker 6: So we gotta things.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 6: Did some get it easy? I rather work hard? Yes,

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some get it easy. I rather work hard.

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Speaker 7: And so this all I know on depression, never fall

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from the concrete.

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Speaker 6: We don't rose from the jungle, came to grow. I

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know I can't control work. Let me take you out

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to space. Sick you are to spell. Let me take

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you out your place, Yet you play. All I know

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is all I know when I know I can control work.

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Speaker 7: Cabful, let me take you out of space.

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Speaker 6: Ck you are to let me take you out to place.

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Speaker 3: Beatful m.

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Speaker 2: That's nice. It's a beautiful song.

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't eve that. I didn't even want

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to talk over the end. It's just nice. I just

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wanted to let it fade out. You know, that's cool.

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That's really nice. If you're just joining us. We have

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a fate one here with us alive in studio and

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that is called all I Know, great track And yeah

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you were you were kind of staying off air like

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you have to. You have to play it every show

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where people will get people get upset if they don't

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hear it. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's one of my most popular songs. You know,

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if they don't hear it, they're like, you know, it's

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whether I start with it or I end with it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there is. You know. The one time I think

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I didn't do it, they were like, where's that song?

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Speaker 1: I know?

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Speaker 4: Like you know, I was like I didn't have enough time,

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Like yeah, But every time I perform, I try and

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make sure that I get it all there. And you know,

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I've gotten up to the point where I sing it

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almost completely live, with the exception of the chorus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah do you uh? Do you play out a lot?

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Do you do a lot of shows?

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Speaker 4: This past year? No, last year I was on a

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Crazy Show run, and then the year before I was

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on a Crazy Show run as well, working with multiple promoters,

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one Our Visuals being one of them. Talk of the

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Town being another one with Jesse Hendrix. He is, you know,

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out of the Boston area and stuff like that. So

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I was able to network with him and expand my

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outlet over there towards that area, you know. And then

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when I Visuals we did a lot of things, mainly

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in Lowell. Was able to learn a lot of things

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from both these great promoters, to the point where, you know,

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I last year I exercised my first show and my

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hat to them because I ran my own show. And

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let me tell you, one of the hardest things to

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do is to manage other artists, yes with them, you know,

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managing their music sets, the DJ and this that. And

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I did that show with another artist as well, my

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buddy Koran, and we collabed and we did that show

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and we did it as a competition for one I Visuals.

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He was like, oh, you know, like a lot of

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your artists talk about this that you know that you're

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gonna do your own show this stuff, but you don't

477
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,039
know what it takes to do it. I challenged you

478
00:24:46,079 --> 00:24:49,400
to do this. The only one that accepted the challenge

479
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:52,680
was Karan and I. You know, so we did it

480
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,200
and we had a successful show. We won his challenge.

481
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,960
You know, we were able to continue to work with

482
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:02,160
him and then you know, we've done a couple of

483
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:07,000
shows since then. But I've been really focusing on the

484
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,400
back ends of the things with the music, you know,

485
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:17,680
focusing on promotion. I released my EP last year and

486
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,200
we got some good numbers and good results on there.

487
00:25:20,319 --> 00:25:23,880
But I am very adamant of not dropping any new

488
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,839
music until I surpassed a certain amount of streams on

489
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,880
my EP, you know, which is one hundred thousand streams,

490
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,240
and I'm a little over halfway throughout the whole project.

491
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,400
You get me, you know, once I reached that goal,

492
00:25:41,759 --> 00:25:44,319
I'll start releasing because I am ready to release. But

493
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:50,279
it's just some people just focus on releasing new music,

494
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:54,119
new music, trying boost the algorithm, failing to realize that

495
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,119
you're actually sitting and killing on your own music you

496
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:03,000
get Me. You can drop every week, every month and

497
00:26:03,039 --> 00:26:05,160
stuff like that, but you're not letting the rest of

498
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,160
your music settle and let that be heard.

499
00:26:08,279 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 1: You can oversaturate that way, yeah, exactly.

500
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 4: And I understand that there's over one hundred thousand songs

501
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,240
being uploaded on streaming platforms on a daily basis. But

502
00:26:19,519 --> 00:26:21,920
if you focus on the stuff that you already have

503
00:26:22,039 --> 00:26:26,960
out and you promote that stuff, when you continue to

504
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:31,039
release those listeners that you have now grown and you

505
00:26:31,079 --> 00:26:34,519
have now connected with with that original sound, are going

506
00:26:34,599 --> 00:26:37,680
to continue to listen to your new stuff and potentially

507
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,319
show it to somebody new, you know. So I do

508
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,240
a lot of the back end studying, you know. I

509
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,200
try to always inform myself with a lot of things

510
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:49,920
that are going on.

511
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 2: You know.

512
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,839
Speaker 4: Like I said, I've been in this many years, you know,

513
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,119
and I did things the wrong way many times up

514
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,720
until this last rebrand you get Me. I rebranded myself

515
00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:08,880
over the course of the five years, you know, trademark

516
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,960
my logo, trademark my company, and then been able to

517
00:27:13,079 --> 00:27:16,599
just learn and you know, apply some of the things

518
00:27:16,599 --> 00:27:20,640
that I learned from hard lessons into this now and

519
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,160
it's working at me. So now I can apply those

520
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,319
things with some of my artists and try and help

521
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,480
them out, you know, because I'm all about giving back,

522
00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:37,640
giving forward. If somebody didn't teach me, you know, or

523
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,079
excuse me, if somebody taught me, you know, and I

524
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,759
kept that to myself, how right would I be by

525
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:48,319
keeping that, you know, instead of passing it forward exactly?

526
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:52,279
That almost be hypocritical, and I try not to be that,

527
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,759
So try to educate as best as I can.

528
00:27:55,599 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: You know, what I've learned, What.

529
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: Do you think or do you have any examples of

530
00:28:00,759 --> 00:28:05,000
like mistakes that you made that you had to learn

531
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,920
from that you then try to pass on to other people.

532
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:14,759
Speaker 4: So one thing, you know, in my early early start

533
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:16,880
of music career, you know, I was putting out music

534
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,559
and I was wondering, why wasn't it catching attention? Or

535
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,319
are these other artists catching attention? This that, you know,

536
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,400
and I got envious and jealous thinking that, you know,

537
00:28:27,519 --> 00:28:30,319
oh I don't get support you know from my community,

538
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,400
this that my family and this that. No, it was

539
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,359
actually that I wasn't doing the work. I was just

540
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,440
going into a studio and recording things, you know, and

541
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,079
then posting it online and expecting it to blow up, right,

542
00:28:41,519 --> 00:28:44,759
you know, I didn't know the business things behind it.

543
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,079
I didn't know the promotion ends behind it, you know,

544
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,240
getting the licensing this that. So those were some of

545
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:55,319
the mistakes you know, where you know, I got copyright

546
00:28:55,359 --> 00:28:58,279
stricken where I had to take something down, used it

547
00:28:58,319 --> 00:29:01,160
without permission, and I was like, okay, what's copyright? You know,

548
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,920
learned about it all right, didn't make this mistake again.

549
00:29:07,519 --> 00:29:09,839
I used to complain about support and then I was

550
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,240
like wondering, you know this that, And then as you see,

551
00:29:13,319 --> 00:29:17,359
it's completely opposite now where it's like, all right, you know,

552
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:21,079
I know why people aren't supporting me. I'm not doing much,

553
00:29:21,319 --> 00:29:25,480
you know. But over the past four years, I've been

554
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,119
doing shows. I've been working with other artists, going to

555
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,039
go support their shows, whether I'm on it, whether I'm not,

556
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,880
and just focusing on doing the groundwork so that way

557
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:40,720
I can actually have something to fall back on and

558
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,599
be like, yeah, no, I did last year, I did

559
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:47,240
forty shows, the year before that, I did eighty the

560
00:29:47,319 --> 00:29:49,799
year before that. We you know, were at one hundred

561
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:54,640
shows and stuff like that almost every two week, you know,

562
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:59,240
and it can be overwhelming, but it's something that comes

563
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:02,319
with this business. You have to do a lot of

564
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,960
work before you actually even see any of the benefits,

565
00:30:07,599 --> 00:30:10,160
you know, so understanding that as well, you know it,

566
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:14,480
stardom doesn't come overnight. A lot of these stars that

567
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:18,079
you think broke out overnight, you go to see their

568
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:22,160
documentary and feel to realize like, oh, they've been doing

569
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,720
this since twenty ten. They're doing this since two thousand

570
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:29,319
and five exactly. It's just now that you're getting to

571
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:33,200
know them. That's the difference, you know. So starting with

572
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:39,640
the roots of the community, you know, working with the ICE.

573
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,119
I keep on saying the community, you know, because that's

574
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,920
who's I'm looking to support me First, if something happens,

575
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:51,480
I know that it happened because of my community, yeah me.

576
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:57,319
Not because I sold my soul or not because you know,

577
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,759
I got lucky and stuff.

578
00:30:59,839 --> 00:31:01,519
Speaker 2: No, I've been putting in the groundwork.

579
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:04,079
Speaker 4: I've been working with my community so that way they

580
00:31:04,119 --> 00:31:08,480
can have something to be proud of, yeah me, and

581
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,440
then just move forward from there on.

582
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 6: You know.

583
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: The definition of fate is.

584
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:20,359
Speaker 4: The definite, the the development of events beyond the person's control, right,

585
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:25,640
So I try to always foresee the events that could

586
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,039
potentially happen. Yeah, that's kind of how I got my name.

587
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was curious about that. Where the name comes from.

588
00:31:31,319 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know it's like.

589
00:31:35,119 --> 00:31:37,559
Speaker 4: Where when I was younger, you know, I would tell

590
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:39,799
my friends like, hey, like, you know, something's gonna happen.

591
00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:42,440
I got a bad feeling, you know, and they were like, okay,

592
00:31:42,519 --> 00:31:44,319
like you know, like we're gonna call you destiny. And

593
00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:47,160
I was like, I didn't like that too much, you know,

594
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,599
So I went into the dictionary and I looked up

595
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,400
the you know, a similar word to destiny and fate

596
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:56,240
it was, and then I liked it and I stuck

597
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,079
with it. Then I added the one at the end

598
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:08,119
for various reasons, you know, in the tag in you know,

599
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,519
graffiti industry. A lot of times when you add one,

600
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:14,920
you're paying homage to somebody that passed away, paying some

601
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,720
paying homage to somebody that has been in jail. So

602
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:23,079
like one love, you know, okay, yeah, And then the

603
00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:25,960
other way is like, you know, I am one of

604
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:26,440
a kind.

605
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,519
Speaker 2: I am the only one.

606
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 4: You know, there might be other fates out there, but

607
00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:38,519
I am want and you know that's trademarked license. Then

608
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,960
don't mess with it I consume you you know, and

609
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,880
that that's where that name came from, you know. And

610
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,759
I'm not an artist where I have a persona.

611
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: This is me.

612
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:58,079
Speaker 4: I live the same way. I try to always be positive.

613
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,359
I try to always foresee what's coming for me, always

614
00:33:02,359 --> 00:33:06,920
plan ahead and try and fix something if I can't.

615
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:11,759
And if I can't, you know, I gotta let go, yeah,

616
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:15,440
and let whatever else you know fix it. Yeah, it's

617
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,680
not in my control. Why am I gonna stress myself

618
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:23,119
over it? And that's where that name stems from. And

619
00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:25,799
I've always stuck with it, and it's the nice you know.

620
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

621
00:33:26,839 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: And I try to try to make sure that anything

622
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,680
I sing about, anything that I write about, it's whether

623
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,519
it's something that I lived, you know, I went through.

624
00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:44,400
I don't want to end up, you know, having to

625
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,799
go back on myself or you.

626
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 2: Know, get called out for something that I don't.

627
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 4: Really do and then it, you know, then all things

628
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,319
fall apart or my persona gets killed because of that.

629
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:02,119
Like this, I know, I just live the way I live.

630
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,039
I am who I am.

631
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's interesting way you say there, because yeah, a

632
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,159
lot of artists will try to, you know, create a persona. Yeah,

633
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,760
you know, and and something either either bigger than you know,

634
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,280
sort of bigger than life, or or maybe even something

635
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,719
kind of kind of negative, like yeah, like they want

636
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,519
to come across as like they're some sort of violence going.

637
00:34:21,519 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 4: To be myself man, Yeah, yeah, you know, whether my

638
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,719
past obviously had something to do with it, but it's

639
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,719
irrelevant today. Yeah, I mean, I'm not that same person

640
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,360
that I was fifteen years ago, but I have learned

641
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,920
from my mistakes of the past. Whether I did certain things,

642
00:34:38,039 --> 00:34:40,199
I always try to make sure that, you know, one thing,

643
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,360
I don't incriminate myself in music. I also don't tell

644
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,079
a lie, you know. And on top of making sure

645
00:34:47,079 --> 00:34:49,599
I don't tell a lie, I try to always keep

646
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:53,639
it positive for the most part, even though it's not

647
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,440
the most popular thing out there. I sure, you know,

648
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,760
my song I Don't Know is pretty much stating that

649
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,880
I don't care what most people think about me. You know,

650
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:06,719
your opinion is your opinion, and you're entitle to it,

651
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,480
and end of the day, it doesn't make you right,

652
00:35:08,519 --> 00:35:11,920
doesn't make you wrong, and that's how you feel about me,

653
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:16,000
then you know, so be it. You know, if I

654
00:35:16,039 --> 00:35:22,320
treated somebody disrespectful, you know, or if I treated somebody

655
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,119
with love, and I always think, I always say believe

656
00:35:25,159 --> 00:35:29,039
both of them. I treat people accordingly, you know. So

657
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,920
if I was rude to you, you deserved it. That

658
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:35,159
was nice to you. You know, you also deserved it well.

659
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,320
And that's always what I try to do, because I

660
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,280
just try to treat people the way I'd like to

661
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,880
be treated. We're all human beings, if you know, we're

662
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,599
cut at the end of the day, we bleed the

663
00:35:44,639 --> 00:35:47,280
same way, we breathe, we eat the same way. You know,

664
00:35:47,519 --> 00:35:49,679
they all need the same things. We're all humans. Yeah,

665
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:50,840
and that's the way I look at it.

666
00:35:51,039 --> 00:35:51,199
Speaker 3: Well.

667
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: Plus, you know, by just kind of being honest about everything.

668
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,320
You know, it's what's the expression, it's tell the truth.

669
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,480
It's less to remember or something.

670
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:01,639
Speaker 2: You know, lives are hard to keep up with.

671
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly. That you got to remember who you

672
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:05,920
told what.

673
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,519
Speaker 4: Good with that I'd rather not, yeah exactly exactly. Keeping

674
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:12,840
up with those lives is crazy.

675
00:36:13,159 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, to to be so positive and everything. If

676
00:36:18,559 --> 00:36:20,639
if you had mentors in the music industry, are there

677
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,519
are there people who've helped you along the way. I mean,

678
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:24,960
obviously you know you're you're willing to to dig in

679
00:36:25,039 --> 00:36:27,719
and learn everything yourself. But are there are there people

680
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,159
who've been an influence on you in the industry or.

681
00:36:30,559 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 4: Just you know, in the industry, I have many, you know, influences.

682
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,719
I wouldn't say that they're all positive because of the

683
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,320
way that the music is brought out, you know, Yeah,

684
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,440
someone like Big Pun you know. But then I go

685
00:36:46,599 --> 00:36:49,519
I can go in my rolodex and literally go to

686
00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,960
somebody like John Legend, you know, you know, which a

687
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:59,159
complete opposite. Yeah, you know, you know, so being influenced

688
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,960
too to just stay positive. It's just something that I

689
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:07,360
learned to live how I learned to live because negativity,

690
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,519
it just doesn't phaze me.

691
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's just very toxic. I don't like that,

692
00:37:14,679 --> 00:37:14,880
you know.

693
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 4: I'd rather not be in a toxic environment or not

694
00:37:18,119 --> 00:37:23,000
be in a negative environment, you know, whether positivity is

695
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:24,360
the most popular thing or not.

696
00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:26,639
Speaker 2: I'm being myself.

697
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:29,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's that's my main thing, is

698
00:37:29,519 --> 00:37:34,880
that I'm being myself and that you know, it's potentially

699
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:40,039
you know, help somebody else, And you know that that

700
00:37:40,159 --> 00:37:43,079
would be great if I help somebody else, at least one,

701
00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:46,079
If I reach one person, you know, and I reach

702
00:37:46,159 --> 00:37:48,000
one every day the goal man.

703
00:37:48,159 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: And I assume you probably have heard from people who

704
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:52,920
approached you and said, yeah, you know you're.

705
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:54,079
Speaker 2: I love your music.

706
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,599
Speaker 4: Is that you know, it has happened, you know, and

707
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,639
it's a great feeling, you know, when you can get

708
00:38:00,639 --> 00:38:05,119
somebody to identify with your trials and relations you know, yeah,

709
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,320
you know, and just just it's a beautiful thing again.

710
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

711
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

712
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,199
Speaker 1: And in terms of of your singing, is there anyone

713
00:38:13,199 --> 00:38:18,000
who's kind of like who who inspires your your style

714
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:20,920
or there are there singers who have been an influence

715
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:22,199
on you in terms of how you sing.

716
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:28,559
Speaker 4: One, there's a couple so you know again it's it's

717
00:38:28,639 --> 00:38:32,360
like Usher for me. Yeah, I grew up listening to Usher,

718
00:38:33,519 --> 00:38:36,239
you know, ladies man always singing.

719
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 2: To the ladies and stuff like that. I love that,

720
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,239
you know me, you know.

721
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 4: And then uh Tony Sunshine, which it's very similar to

722
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,079
my style where he's he's dealing with a lot of

723
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:51,599
hip hop, but he's singing in it, you know, and

724
00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:55,639
he's bringing out those emotions out of those songs with

725
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,880
you know, the Terror Squad and stuff like that. Yeah,

726
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:06,000
you know. And then there's Mark Anthony. Yes, there's you know, Salo.

727
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 2: Ninety.

728
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:12,519
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of a lot of the salsa

729
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,880
at the end of the day, is you know again

730
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:20,239
about stories. You know, Mark Anthony played a role in

731
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:25,320
a movie for Ector Lavos, and he pretty much captured

732
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,599
that guy's persona and that guy's voice and everything to

733
00:39:28,639 --> 00:39:30,639
the point where they were like, WHOA, WHOA is that

734
00:39:30,679 --> 00:39:36,679
Mark Anthony or Ector Lavos. But these things, you know,

735
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,039
they bring out the trials and relations. Actor Lovos used

736
00:39:41,039 --> 00:39:45,719
to sing about his drug use impression, you know, the

737
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,280
life that he lived and stuff like that. So just

738
00:39:49,519 --> 00:39:55,079
combining all those things, all those artists, and just you know,

739
00:39:55,519 --> 00:40:00,719
creating my sound off of that. You know, I can

740
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,840
sing any Usher song, you know, word for word, you know,

741
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,159
to a point where I could almost duplicate some of

742
00:40:08,199 --> 00:40:13,039
his tones, stuff like that, most of Tony Sunshine's almost

743
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:15,800
every Mark Anthony and then you know, you go further back,

744
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:20,239
that's act the love voice as well, which is all SALTSA.

745
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,280
I listen to a lot of music, not just hip hop.

746
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:24,599
Speaker 2: R and B.

747
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 4: You got me being Puerto Rican, growing up in a

748
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:33,719
Puerto Rican household and an urban area, you'd be surprised

749
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,440
the things that you hear, you know, dance all afrobeats,

750
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,039
so I can imagine, you know, and again, the beauty

751
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:42,280
of music is just being able to move and hear

752
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,960
that and feel that rhythm. And that's what I love

753
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,800
about it. Yeah. I feel the most comfortable when I'm

754
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:49,639
in front of a mic.

755
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, me.

756
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 4: I get nervous at first, but the moment that I'm

757
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:57,000
on stage and stuff like that, and you know, or

758
00:40:57,039 --> 00:40:59,440
in front of a podcast, that I just feel like

759
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,800
I'm at home right right, and it's just it feels great.

760
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:07,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can, I can relate to that. I'm I'm

761
00:41:07,679 --> 00:41:13,079
actually I'm naturally uh an introvert, but I uh but

762
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:16,920
I'm most I'm so because of that. It's just how

763
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,400
my brain is wired. I'm actually most comfortable in front

764
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,760
of a microphone, whether it's doing the show or or

765
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:25,239
I'm a musician. I don't I'm not active with that,

766
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:26,719
but I used to play a lot of bands, or

767
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,000
being on stage or public speaking, like like, I'm actually

768
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:33,239
more comfortable doing that than I am at say a

769
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,400
party where you know, I'm trying to have a conversation

770
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,760
with a stranger or something.

771
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 4: Same, you know, yeah, yeah, I you know, I usually

772
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:45,679
go out to these venues if I'm performing, you know,

773
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:46,920
I am a homebody.

774
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:49,679
Speaker 2: The reason why I have a home studio.

775
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you know, you know, and not trying to

776
00:41:57,039 --> 00:41:59,360
be cheap or anything, but that you know, you can

777
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,119
go out side nowadays, and you spend one hundred dollars

778
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:06,079
a moment that you go outside. You know, that's just

779
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:12,400
gassing food, you know, and you know, so it's just

780
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,400
trying to stay out of the way.

781
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:15,679
Speaker 2: You know.

782
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:21,599
Speaker 4: I try to go out when it's necessary. I'm a

783
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,519
very family first guy.

784
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 2: Excuse me. So I'd rather spend time with my family.

785
00:42:27,519 --> 00:42:27,679
You know.

786
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 4: If I'm not in the studio, I'm with family. If

787
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,320
I'm not an event, I'm with family. If I'm not working,

788
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:36,639
I'm with family, you know. And just try and do that,

789
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,159
you know, whether it's laying down in bed watching a

790
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,320
movie or just sitting down in the couch playing some

791
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,440
video games. You know, it's it's it's okay. You know,

792
00:42:47,559 --> 00:42:51,199
I'd rather be doing that than out and about, you know,

793
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,239
getting into trouble or you know, who knows what can

794
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,239
happen nowadays and the world that we live in a

795
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:02,159
heavy place, right, you know, or having to be prepared

796
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:06,239
for those kind of situations and stuff like that. Not

797
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,760
a person that really has anxiety, but those things kind

798
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,159
of give me anxiety.

799
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, have you always been like.

800
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,559
Speaker 3: That or were you?

801
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:18,559
Speaker 1: Were you different when you were younger, because like I

802
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:21,039
can tell you, like in my case, people assumed that

803
00:43:21,079 --> 00:43:21,639
when I was.

804
00:43:21,679 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was a bad kid. Yeah, so I had.

805
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,119
Speaker 4: I had a very early upbringing, you know, where I

806
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:30,800
was just running around early on.

807
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,559
Speaker 2: I mentioned that I was doing music for many of years.

808
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 4: I was in a club at fourteen, fifteen years old,

809
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,639
singing this one Spanish song that didn't even belong to

810
00:43:41,679 --> 00:43:44,280
me because my brother was a club promoter and he

811
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,239
would bring a lot of the Spanish artists down to Lawrence. Yeah,

812
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:51,679
you know, and you know I would always be an

813
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,320
open and act you know. So I shared stages with

814
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:58,760
some of these major artists, some like Nikki jam Ecto,

815
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:03,079
Ritito they well call it on and some of these

816
00:44:03,159 --> 00:44:05,400
names you may know, some of the you may not.

817
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:08,920
But in the Latin culture and the Latin community, they

818
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:10,599
know those names are very big.

819
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: You know.

820
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 4: I have the pleasure of saying that I shared this

821
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:16,400
stage with them at fourteen years old. That's not a

822
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,679
bad way to start me. That was twenty years ago,

823
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,800
you get me. But I was young, dumb, you know,

824
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,440
and I was focused on all the wrong things. Yeah,

825
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,000
you know, not focusing on my schooling, not focusing just

826
00:44:31,039 --> 00:44:32,639
focusing on all the wrong things.

827
00:44:32,679 --> 00:44:34,599
Speaker 1: But it's kind of a double edged sword, right because

828
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:37,639
you may have focused on the wrong things in one sense,

829
00:44:37,639 --> 00:44:39,920
but at the same time you had that amazing opportunity.

830
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, you got that. And then I learned.

831
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, and I learned, and you know, I

832
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:46,440
just apply a lot of the things that I learned

833
00:44:47,079 --> 00:44:49,800
growing up, and I just actually applied it.

834
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 3: You know.

835
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 4: It's like, how can you fix something if you don't

836
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,559
know about it, you know, But if you know about

837
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,199
it and you did nothing about it to fix it, Yeah,

838
00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,000
and you want to change, well, that's insanity right there,

839
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:00,440
my friend.

840
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:01,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know me.

841
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: So it's just all about knowing and you know, trying.

842
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: What what changed for you? Was there a moment that

843
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,239
that kind of changed things, that kind of changed your

844
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:12,719
mindset or was it a gradual thing?

845
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:17,039
Speaker 4: My mother passing away really yeah, yeah, she passed away

846
00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:19,000
six years ago. It was one of the toughest things

847
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:23,079
that I deal with on a daily basis, and I

848
00:45:23,159 --> 00:45:25,519
was on the verge of giving up music because of that,

849
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,400
the lack of support and you know, just not knowing,

850
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,719
not being educated about it. And one of the promises

851
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,519
I made, you know, while she was you know, on

852
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:39,679
her last day, was that I'm going to continue with

853
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:43,320
my music, you know, and that's exactly what I did.

854
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,679
In twenty eighteen, I dropped the project that was nowhere

855
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:51,360
near released, ready to be released, but I didn't anyways,

856
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,119
just so I can you know, claim it and start it,

857
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,840
you know, Yeah, you know, I I pride myself in

858
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,280
knowing you know, maybe a fact or not, but you know,

859
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,079
I want to say I was one of these artists

860
00:46:06,159 --> 00:46:10,480
that was on streaming platforms before a lot of other

861
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:15,800
people because of the research and the information that I gained. Like,

862
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,480
you know, in twenty eighteen, I dropped my first project

863
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,280
with CD Baby.

864
00:46:19,559 --> 00:46:21,039
Speaker 2: I didn't see any.

865
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 4: Of my artists friends or any of them dropping on

866
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,599
streaming platforms where they were on Spotify, Apple, And next thing,

867
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:29,480
you know, twenty nineteen, everybody's doing it.

868
00:46:29,559 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: Yep.

869
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,679
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not saying that I started it or

870
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,079
anything like that, but I know I was one of

871
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:38,519
the first artists that started doing it, and I even

872
00:46:38,599 --> 00:46:44,599
learned from that, you know, not having quality music. You know,

873
00:46:44,679 --> 00:46:47,320
it's like, oh yeah, like I could play this, but

874
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,920
it's not mixing masters correctly. It's not going to sound

875
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,760
the best and think, oh okay, all right this, you know,

876
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:56,760
but then your ego gets the best of you, you know,

877
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,679
and so I had to struggle with that. Yeah, and

878
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,039
I was like, all right, well, let's learn how to

879
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:06,360
mix and master. Learned that, you know, and then.

880
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,559
Speaker 2: I think in twenty nineteen, I.

881
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 4: Partnered with a audio engineer out of Las Vegas, and

882
00:47:17,559 --> 00:47:20,280
it was no, it was twenty twenty actually, because it

883
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,159
was around COVID where everybody was online.

884
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,719
Speaker 2: Everybody was saying, you know, I sent them my vocals.

885
00:47:28,559 --> 00:47:32,159
Speaker 4: He mixed and edited, threw a little bit of auto

886
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,440
tune in there, you know, which I kind of wanted

887
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:37,400
because you know, I was like, this is a little rough,

888
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,760
you know, I recorded it in my studio, this that

889
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,519
you know, sent them some nice clean vocals and you

890
00:47:43,559 --> 00:47:46,199
know my song. I didn't send it to you, but

891
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,000
I will eventually. The song I'm blessed, you know, it

892
00:47:50,039 --> 00:47:52,480
is what I kind of started back off with. Yeah,

893
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,559
you know, that was where I rebranded myself, had my

894
00:47:55,639 --> 00:47:59,800
new logo, had a song that was mixed and mastered,

895
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:04,960
ready for distribution, ready for radio, you know, and I

896
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,480
took pride in that, so I went recorded a video

897
00:48:07,559 --> 00:48:10,599
to it. Then I released everything, just like you know,

898
00:48:10,679 --> 00:48:13,880
a mainstream artist would do everything on the same day,

899
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,480
the video, the vocals, all that released, you know, and

900
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:22,679
that was one of my you know, greatest moments. It's

901
00:48:23,039 --> 00:48:27,800
one of my least sought out after songs, because again,

902
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:28,800
the positivity.

903
00:48:29,039 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 2: Not many people go towards positive, you know.

904
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,039
Speaker 4: They're they're you're bound to have something negative posted on

905
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:41,840
social media that's going to become viral versus something that

906
00:48:42,039 --> 00:48:45,079
you know is very positive and could also be viral

907
00:48:45,159 --> 00:48:47,519
and have the same effect, but they won't do it

908
00:48:47,519 --> 00:48:50,880
because it's positive, you know. So I try to always

909
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,840
shed light on those positive things.

910
00:48:54,079 --> 00:48:54,280
Speaker 2: You know.

911
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 4: I try not to post negative things. You know, I

912
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,760
can always I go find myself on social media wanted

913
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:04,079
to say something negative, like delete, and then I find myself, well,

914
00:49:04,199 --> 00:49:08,039
I almost wrote something negative on this post, but I didn't.

915
00:49:08,199 --> 00:49:12,639
You know, I get congratulates story things from friends and

916
00:49:12,679 --> 00:49:16,360
stuff like that, like, okay, you're trying to stay all right, yeah,

917
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,599
you know, but everybody's human, you know.

918
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,559
Speaker 2: And that song started it off for me.

919
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 4: And then I did a song with local artists as well,

920
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:33,480
GMT Mark B.

921
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: And that was like my first feature. You know.

922
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 4: He was more established out in Nashville than I was.

923
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,880
He had more of a following than I was. I

924
00:49:42,159 --> 00:49:50,960
happened to be in the same studio and I played

925
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,679
him a beat and I showed him the chorus, you know,

926
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,840
because that's how I start all my songs. I always

927
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,760
have a chorus for all my songs. And you know,

928
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:01,480
he like, oh, I like that, Let's do that a

929
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,920
like boom and then that that came on and then

930
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,000
did the same thing again.

931
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:08,519
Speaker 2: That was my first video with one I Visuals.

932
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,679
Speaker 4: Oh, you know, partnered with him, set a release date,

933
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,360
had to change the release date because you know, it

934
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,119
was a little too soon. The editing stuff wasn't done,

935
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,159
you know, and I got a little lashing from one

936
00:50:21,199 --> 00:50:23,519
of visuals. It was like, don't do that again, you know.

937
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,840
He was like, you guys, shouldn't do that until it's ready.

938
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:28,280
I was like, you're right, you know, And then I

939
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,480
learned from that, you know, so to make sure that

940
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:34,039
I'm not releasing nothing unless or setting a date on

941
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:35,800
something before it's actually complete.

942
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.

943
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 4: You know, setting a date on an EP before it's

944
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,239
actually complete, you know, and then you know, you set

945
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:46,840
false expectations that can also screw you over as an

946
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,880
artist too, because you're over here selling dreams, selling dreams,

947
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,239
and you know, realistically there's nothing to sell right right,

948
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,920
you know, So just making sure that I have everything

949
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ready before I even announced it.

950
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Speaker 1: Um No, that makes sense.

951
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:01,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like I.

952
00:51:04,159 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 4: Right, I avoid from making any announcements. Yeah, as best

953
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,400
as I can, just in case if things fall through.

954
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:15,840
You know that way, I don't look a certain type

955
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:16,159
of way.

956
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: I totally get that.

957
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, like today, I think I made them.

958
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:23,960
I was like, you know, I'll be on ninety five

959
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,760
point three, you know, I copied the link and I

960
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,599
shared it to a few of my family members, a

961
00:51:28,639 --> 00:51:31,440
few of my friends, yea, you know, and I told

962
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them I'll be on at this time. Like you know,

963
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I knew I was coming, I made it happen. And

964
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once I knew that that was happening, all right, boom

965
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,119
made time to be here, you know. And yeah, it's

966
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,639
been good so far. You know, it's not a far

967
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,880
drive thirty five minutes.

968
00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, yeah we're not far Yeah, well

969
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,119
we are, however, almost out of time. The time goes

970
00:51:50,159 --> 00:51:52,280
so quick, so we'll un plus when you're having fun,

971
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,719
we'll close out the show with this track app business.

972
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,719
But just quickly, what should people know about how to

973
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:00,920
follow you online? Where should they go to keep up

974
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:01,960
with everything that you're doing?

975
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:07,079
Speaker 4: Yes, so I am pretty nice and simple as f

976
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A T E O N E underscore HSM across all platforms.

977
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That's TikTok, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, even. You can also go

978
00:52:18,679 --> 00:52:22,800
to my website I am fightwe dot com where you'll

979
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,360
find all my music, you'll find any ways to reach me,

980
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:30,440
all of my socials as well, you know, and then

981
00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:33,320
if you have me as a friend on Facebook, you

982
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,000
know that I am yes, well fight one Marquez, you know,

983
00:52:37,039 --> 00:52:39,440
because again this is not a persona, this is who

984
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,320
I am. So I try to always keep it, you know, Yes,

985
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,280
I keep my work world separate versus the music world,

986
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:51,760
but eventually they will not collide, but you know, almost

987
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,119
blend stuff. Like you know, the work that I do

988
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,599
allows me to pay for the stuff that I need,

989
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:03,280
you know, and just be able to you know, open

990
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,199
doors for me and stuff like that, and just continue

991
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,320
to you know, move forward.

992
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 3: Man.

993
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:12,639
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, well, we really appreciate your coming in today.

994
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you.

995
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 4: I appreciate being here and meeting you guys, you know,

996
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,440
and I look forward to what the future holds for us.

997
00:53:18,599 --> 00:53:22,199
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely. And Jenny, you want to plug your website

998
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,480
before we go, Absolutely, you got you got a lot

999
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:25,199
going on lately.

1000
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,760
Speaker 9: I have, actually, yes, and I still have some stuff

1001
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,400
to update on the website, but you can check it

1002
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,920
out at Gencoffee dot com.

1003
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Speaker 3: J E.

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Speaker 1: N N C O F f EI dot com.

1005
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,519
Speaker 6: And if you.

1006
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 9: Happen to go down to Terminus tonight for the show,

1007
00:53:38,159 --> 00:53:41,400
you can check out twelve of my darkest paintings, yes,

1008
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,320
hanging on display for the month of August at the

1009
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:52,719
Nashua Creative Collective. I said it wrong midnight, Sorry for the.

1010
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Speaker 1: Time, Fate one, Thank you again, thank you. Wonderful to

1011
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,079
have you on. Absolutely

