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Speaker 1: Is Cougar Sports with Ben Krettle at its time for

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the Cougar be getting the dish.

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Speaker 2: From the local reporters that cover Cougar athletics.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Cougar Sports here on one O, three

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and being NEWTI. You can catch him every morning on

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the station to kick it off here on this very

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radio network. We appreciate Bryce probably does a wonderful job,

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and congrats to him on being our new program director

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and everything. Gonna keep it going here a New Year's

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Eve edition of Cougar Sports.

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Speaker 2: Love it.

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Speaker 3: Hope you all being safe and that you celebrate whether

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you're gonna be with family, or whether you are gonna

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be going dancing, clubbing, if you're gonna take a partaking

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adult beverage, whoever, whatever you're doing.

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Speaker 2: I just want you guys all to be safe.

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zero eight seven. That's eight zero one three eight zero

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heart is through food. I know he likes to die

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divulges in the food. But maybe the quickest way to

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his wife's heart is by getting the house cleaned. So

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we will see, but without further to do, let's welcome

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in Darnell Dixon to the Daily World. Double d How

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are you doing today and it's not officially New Year,

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the New Year yet, but happy New Year's Eve to you.

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year's Eve to you as well.

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Speaker 1: We're headed tonight to Thanksgiving, point to the Luminaria as

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a family and catch some fireworks and try to stay warm.

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Speaker 4: So that's our activity.

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Speaker 1: And it'll hit twelve o'clock, will blow our uh uh

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you know, the center, our own little fireworks and blow

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some warns and then they probably go right to bed.

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Speaker 3: Hey that's still lit, o kid. It's different once you know,

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the kids have grown up and get out the house.

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But I love that you're still trying to partake and

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get tell me this, Darnielle. I don't I don't know

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if this is a Utah thing, you know, little convert

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to the church. But I remember growing up with the

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family and after we got baptized, banging pots and pans.

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That's something that people have done.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we did that when I was a kid

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and we lived out in the country, so I'm not

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even sure anybody heard us.

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Speaker 4: We did do it. We did get our pans out

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and bang them.

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Speaker 3: You get your pants out and bang them, bang bang

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bang bang. Well no, butdy, let's get right into it.

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There's a lot going on in Cougar Country right now.

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Jay Hill is he going to Michigan? Jason Beck is

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he going to Michigan? Who is wit taking with his

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robust network. Everybody's waiting for decisions to be made. I've

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heard rubblings that, oh, you know, By's trying to retain

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Jay Hill as hard as possible.

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Speaker 2: Decisions might not be made.

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Speaker 3: I just got off the line with Bryce and Bryce

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said that maybe they're waiting into this Utah Nebraska game

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is over to announce both if that be the case,

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or maybe BYU is waiting. What are your thoughts on

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just all of this going on in the college landscape?

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By you might get hit hard. It's already been confirmed

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that Gavin Fowler is going to be the defensive coordinator

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Weber State. Weber State is also trying to take Eddie

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Speaker 2: He was helping out man. The BYU staff might get

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depleted by the time all of this is over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's one of the things that we've

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not really thought or talked too much about. As things

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about the players and how they're moving and freedom of movement.

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but it just seems to be accentuated now. And as

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J Hill, I mean, it's not as if he's got

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a bad choice here. Whatever decision he makes is going

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to get paid a ton of money to do what

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he loves, which is coach football. So you know, he

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can decide to go to the Big Ten, you can

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decide to stay with Kilani and and he's still going

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to be really rich and and doing what he loves.

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Speaker 4: So I mean, there's really not a bad decision for him.

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Speaker 1: But there is quite a bit of a domino effect

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that's taking place, and and specifically here in Utah because

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of the changes at the U and and uh, you

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know all that's a domino effect, but it really affects

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the teams in Utah.

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Speaker 4: We're seeing that already.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations the Gavin fowlery is a great guy and getting

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an opportunity to step up and be a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: There a Weaver State that's terrific.

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Speaker 1: There are guys at b YU that you know, could

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find themselves in Michigan they're there. Uh guys in Salt Lake,

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they can find. It's just it's a crazy right now.

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And I think you're right. I think after this game

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tonight in the Las Vegas Bowl between Utah and Nebraska,

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that will hear some things being done. And I've also

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heard that Ronnie that b Yu is not going to

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give up Jay Hill without a fight, and so so

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that that's pulling Jay Hill in a couple of different ways,

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because he's obviously indebted to Kyle winning him.

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Speaker 4: For starting his career and a real mentor for him.

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Speaker 1: And he also, you know, I think likes the way

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that Klanie Sataki has built the culture here at BUYU,

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and he's had a lot of second success. You know,

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I mentioned in my column of the day that you know,

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if if Jay Hill coaches the defense at Michigan and

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Michigan goes eleven and one, they're in the college football playoffs,

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no questions asked. And so that might be a consideration.

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Is Bay usually is not quite there yet in terms

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of being able to impress the playoff committee enough to

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get into the playoffs despite an eleven to one record

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in the regular season. So there's a lot to consider

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and and you know we're going to be watching tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Let's see.

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Speaker 1: I think I think the first is when they open

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up the transfer portal for people to declare, and they

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have two weeks to do that, so we'll see what

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BYU players decide to leave and where be why you

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sets up and tries to bring in new guys. So

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it's it's a lot of a lot of process and

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there will be changes on this team. Despite the twelve

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and two season, It's gonna be a pretty crazy offseason

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as we had to that part of the winter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you bring up a good point.

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Speaker 3: Transport opens January second, I believe Friday from what Max

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Olson said, and then it closes to the sixteenth, So

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after today, once An announcements their mates, we'll find out.

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Speaker 2: I have to think that at the top of the list.

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Speaker 3: If Jay Hill warre go to Michigan, volatile Satuala, I mean,

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I know he's talked about people said ron I said.

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He said it was a coin flip, but it's like, yeah,

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but he likes Jay Hills and it doesn't matter if

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Jay was that Utah gonna leave for Michigan to be

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the same thing. I don't think voleattele will go straight

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up north to Morgan's galley. I think he follow Jail

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and go to Michigan. And I think Folatyle is a

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Big Ten safety. I think he can play in the

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way Jay Hill likes to rotate and having coach, I

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think you can see folata I think you could also

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see Isaiah Glasker. People could say what they want Darnell,

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but I think a healthy Isaiah Glaska can play in

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the Big Ten. Now, I don't think all of the

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b YU roster would be depleted. I think some guys

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you'll be able to retain. A new sya down up Baya.

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I think to SI the Economie State, Evan Johnson would.

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Would Jannar Guildford follow Jay Hill? And that leads me

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to this next point of who are the replacements of

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Galvin Fowler, who now was gone, and if Weaber State

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is going to bring in Eddie Hecker, if that does happen,

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that just starts to make Kilane's choices.

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Speaker 2: I think tough for Darnell.

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Speaker 1: But Colon has been doing this for a long time

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and he has connections through Utah, through Oregon State, now

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through b YU. He'll be able to find guys vic

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coaching and doing a nice job. You know that there

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are plenty of guys for him to choose from. They're

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that you want. And certainly to find someone in the

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caliber of J Hill is going to be difficult, and

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so you would expect there to be some sort of

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a learning curve maybe maybe you know, a drop off

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in production until things get where they need to be.

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to retain j. Hill because they know he is terrific

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and has done a great job and belongs in the

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Cougar program.

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Speaker 4: If they want to continue to be successful.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to keep them to be successful. But

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let's let's try to tize back to the positives. Darnaut

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does a good job. I love reading inside Darnail's head.

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It's one of my favorite things to read. And he

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made a declaration he said this b did you did

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this BYU's best team since the fourteen to one Cotton

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Bowl season, and you said you would argue this team

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is even better simply because the level of competition is higher.

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Speaker 2: I want you to, you know, tell me about that.

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Speaker 3: You can find the piece atharrowex dot com slash Sports

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slash BYU if you if you if you're looking for it.

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Speaker 2: But I love that that take, Darnelle.

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Speaker 3: Tell me more about why you made that that take,

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because I think some people might get pushback on that.

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Speaker 1: I think you can. And it really depends on your

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definition of best. If you take a look at you know,

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everyone would say, well the nineteen eighty fourteen is the

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best because they won the national championship. You can't go

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a plus BQ will see in that situation comparatively to

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BYU today because I think BYU is more talented.

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Speaker 4: I think they're deeper, and they're.

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Speaker 1: Playing a completely, without question, a much harder schedule and

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and so you know, we made a big deal. You know,

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when b Y's first year in the Big Twelve, where

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they're playing like, you know, eight straight games against Power

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conference opponents, which they'd never done before.

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Speaker 4: That's the norm.

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Speaker 1: And when you're doing that and being successful and not

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only this year twelve and two, but finishing you know,

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in the last couple years AWIG twenty three and four,

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in the past two years. That shows that this program

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is good enough to compete. And that's the thing I

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was thinking too about the playoffs situation. Is it's easy

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to say, well, Team A made it to the playoffs

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and they lost, therefore they're not worthy, or Team B

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made it to the playoffs and one, therefore they are

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where they think. That's too very much, too simplistic by

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you definitely could have gone to the playoffs, and Notre

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in one games. There are plenty of teams that could

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you take what you want from that. But I think

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this BYU team, and especially because of the coaching staff, which,

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as we just talked about, is in danger of being

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blown up because Kyle Winningham decided he wasn't done coaching,

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I think this is a really good football team that

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competes weekly with really good football teams. And I guess

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what ultimately leads me to believe that is it's maybe

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the best team that be what you's ever put on

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the field in terms of talent and in terms of

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the program as a whole.

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Speaker 3: You speak of talent, this basketball team, there's a lot

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of talent. We'll finish up and get you out of

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here on this This this basketball team is something else.

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Speaker 2: They just bons is special.

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Speaker 3: He a special player and fans should enjoy because it's

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going to be leaving at the end of March.

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Speaker 2: It's not coming back. It won't.

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Speaker 3: It won't come back until it gets drafted and it

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has maybe the bye weeks or whatever. The NBA looks

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like it's not playing another year in the Provom. I

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don't think it's going to happen. There's nothing you can

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do unless you're gonna have a aj De Bonster type

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version of an All Star Game in the Mariatta, which

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even then it probably wouldn't go it. Probably the market

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at the Delta Center with how everything in ticket prices

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and college athletics is doing that.

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Speaker 2: That's me being tongue in cheek. Double D.

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Speaker 3: They open up conference play in a couple of days

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on the road against Kansas State. You think with the

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time off that Kevin Young would have a perfect game plan,

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But this team has started slowing games. What needs to

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happen on Saturday? And do they get the dub the

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beginning conference player? Remember last year they didn't open up

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conference to play too well. But then they ended the

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season on that miraculous winning streak.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, b where you started one in three last year

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the Big Twelve, and there were questions, you know, how

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are they going to handle the rest of this schedule,

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and they ended up doing very well and winning nine

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in a row, including the first I think it was

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the quarterfinals of the Big Twelve tournament.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think it's hard to explain why this team struggles

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to get to a good start.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the things.

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Speaker 1: That is very apparent as well is that this is

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a really good coaching staff and making adjustments and pushing

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the right buttons in the second half.

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Speaker 4: And part of that, I think is this.

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Speaker 1: Is a team that returned couple of guys really that

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played a lot of minutes last year, and they're still

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kind of figuring out, especially the bench situation.

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Speaker 4: You know, who comes off the bench, what's the rotation like?

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Speaker 1: And I think that during the course of a game,

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Kevin Young and his staff figure out, Okay, this is

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how we need to do things in terms of personnel

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and matchups and adjustments that need to be made.

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Speaker 4: I think they're doing a really good job of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be great if they could start off every

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game and jump out to a twenty point lead, but

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that's not going to happen, and they've been able to

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come back. I just like the football team, you know,

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came back five times from double digits. I think coaching matters,

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and I think in this situation, Kevin Young has created

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a really good coaching staff and they make good adjustments

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and the players buy in and believe the system, and

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that's why they were able to play a lot better

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in the second half.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that and definitely buy into the system. They definitely

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play better. So we will find out. I'm excited to

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see Kansas State. I know you're probably excited for the

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next couple of games, especially this month you get to

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see Tuley come back. Tanner Toulson will be coming back

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to the Marriott with the TCU hornfak. It's crazy to

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think that started it started his career by you, ended

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up at Utah Valley and now is at t c U,

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and that will be a good homecoming.

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Speaker 2: From him.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited to cover that. That's just crazy double d.

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That's a I looked it up the other day. The average,

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I think, Tom, I'm an athlete transfers these days like

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one point seven one point eight, so two times. It's

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pretty much what an athlete is transferring before they find

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their home or where they're in in their college career.

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you look at Harrison Taggart, you're looking now Tanner Tilson.

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Is athletes transfer twice before they finish their college career.

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Speaker 4: Why you're playing against Kansas State?

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Speaker 1: As you mentioned on Saturday, PJ Haggerty there leading scorer,

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this is his for school goodness, pricious, good coat. And

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I still have a hard time getting my mind around

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athletes that have transferred three or four times already, because

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you know, I hate to use the term because we

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roll our eyes when universities use it and then the

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NCAA uses it. But student athlete is taking on a

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very different tone right now, and I can't imagine anyone

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who's transferring three times is making progress towards graduation.

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Speaker 4: That would be very difficult to do. And and you

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know that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we know what it's about. It's about money.

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It's about being able to put yourself in the best situation.

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But they are still going to school and they are

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taking up scholarships, so you know, you wonder how that

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will happen. The other discussion that's been happening, Ronnie, is

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the eligibility of athletes who have been drafted in the NBA.

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I mean, Baylor just signed the guy that's drafted in

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point three. B Yu signed Vito Ahmed, who has been

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playing in the G League. And I plan on tomorrow

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when we have access to Kevin Young through the Zoom

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conference call, to ask him, you know, what do you

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think about This conversation is taking place because there are

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a number of coaches who are saying, you know, we've

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got to draw the line here somewhere. We can't be

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recruiting guys who have played in professional in sports. Of course,

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they've been doing that for years with athletes out of Europe.

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So there's a lot of discussion about what should be done,

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and I'm curious to hear what Kevin Young would have

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to say about that.

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Speaker 2: I'm very curious as well.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be very interesting to find out because

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I'm with you. Beido is one thing because he played

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in the G League, but he's a professional. But talking

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about guys getting drafted in twenty twenty three, this is it.

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I think this is getting out of hand. I do

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think there needs to be regulations put. It's not that

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I don't want to see Boa succeed and not win,

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but these other programs people are starting to I think,

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even a bit more past Rose. They might even be

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breaking them. But I guess you're not breaking if there's

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nothing in place. But there's gonna be regulations. I think

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at the end of the season, once this is over,

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they can't do anything right now, I think they'll continue

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to grant. But going into the off season, Double D

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definitely they're gonna do something different. But before I let

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you go, what's the best way we can follow you

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on X and find all of your work at Darnell.

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Speaker 1: Earldextra dot com is where you can find the work

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I am at Darnell Rights. I try to make good,

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interesting comments, but sometimes I fail.

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Speaker 4: That's how we all are on X, aren't we.

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Speaker 3: It's true I've failed on next two but that's why

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you need to stay off X. But we have to

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do it. That's where our job is. Job is at.

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Our job is there, Our job is there? Well, double D,

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Happy New York. You and the family go ahead, you know,

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shot some things off and then you get that good

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that good rest too, and then we'll catch up with

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you next week.

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Speaker 4: For sure, bang those pans, for sure.

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Speaker 2: I'll bang those pans with my daughter. You bet.

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the show with you guys. And we still got some

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basketball talk. Don't go anywhere? Still want a more hour

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