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Speaker 2: Yo was April?

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Speaker 3: Where's the sun that today's supposed to boom flowers?

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Speaker 1: But the snow on the way.

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Speaker 4: Manchester feeling like the North full zone. I'm out hearing

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bout rash of rock.

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Speaker 3: Cologne, snowy sripping. This spring gone wilds.

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Speaker 5: I saw my block life.

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Speaker 6: Ringers ay styles aple should be won, but I'm bundled instead.

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Speaker 4: Come on you, she wasn't messing with my head.

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Speaker 7: I'll come a shovel away.

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Speaker 8: I thought i'd.

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Speaker 6: Seen the last flake.

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Speaker 9: Now I'm now here again, coming past.

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Speaker 6: I can't say win a chill pulling franks, playing out

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of season?

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Speaker 3: What's going on up there?

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Speaker 1: Weather?

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Speaker 3: Gotten no reason?

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Speaker 5: Snowy stripping. This is spring gone wilds.

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Speaker 6: I saw my block life ringers ay styles aple should

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be won, but I'm bundled instead.

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Speaker 3: Come on you, she wants messing.

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Speaker 10: With my head.

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Speaker 11: Sun's on vacation and Cloud's taking charge, driving her ring

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the snowman.

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Speaker 12: That's a sabotage.

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Speaker 6: Those guys are hostage by frosts, free mother nature.

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Speaker 3: What's this joke you're pulling on me? Dream of barbecues?

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Speaker 11: Now I'm stuck with this few puffy coding gloves man.

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Speaker 3: How about you. I want to.

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Speaker 11: See green grass and forget the bleak slaves, but the

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sells crashing all my springtime dates.

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Speaker 3: You are listening to wm.

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Speaker 9: H Commander, don't get Supreme Leader Magzio g B.

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Speaker 4: Good morning everybody, Welcome, Here we go. It is that

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time again.

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Speaker 13: Matt Connorton unleashed and we are live from the studios

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of wm NH ninety five point three FM Inglorious, Snowy,

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very snowy, Manchester, New Hampshire. Today is Saturday, April twelve,

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twenty twenty five, and I am not alone.

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Speaker 9: J JNS best friend.

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Speaker 13: Good morning time Sunshine. There's no sunshine today.

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Speaker 8: I said people are sunshines. I didn't call the.

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Speaker 13: World that right. Yes, it is messed up. Yeah, if

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you are listening live on Saturday. On Saturday morning, we

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woke up to quite the winter wonderland, quite the the

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snow storm and it's actually sicken of the roads and

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it's making travel dangerous. And our first guest, in fact,

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Katie Dobbins, she's gonna be calling in because she was

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trying to get here and it's it's just very dangerous outside.

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Speaker 4: So everybody if you.

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Speaker 13: If you are listening live on Saturday morning. Please be

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very careful driving this morning, if you are traveling, if

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you are en route anywhere. I even wore and I

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posted a picture of it on social media. I wore

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my after the Winter shirt today. Not so, they're a

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great band. They've been on the show a couple of times.

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I love after the Winter, but also, like I said,

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you know, just trying to remind Mother Nature that it

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is in fact after the winter.

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Speaker 4: Yes, the concept, because I can't remember it.

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Speaker 14: Is it officially after the winter or is it not

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officially after the winter until.

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Speaker 4: It's after No, it's after the winter. It's spring. We're

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in April.

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Speaker 8: Well, what was the original is the first day of

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the spring?

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Speaker 13: I think it's March twentieth, so uh yeah, so it's

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very much Uh, it's very much after the winter. So

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my favorite time of year is after the winter. But yes,

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we have plunged back into winter. So everyone be safe Falcons.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, so be safe if you are traveling this morning.

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Speaker 13: I thought about opening you know the show today with

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you know Prince has a song called sometimes it Snows

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in April, and I thought about playing it this morning.

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Speaker 4: The only thing is.

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Speaker 13: You know, obviously we're a fully licensed radio station. We

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can play whatever we want, but we also of course

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stream the show to Facebook and YouTube and everything. And uh,

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I think Prince is one of those artists. If you

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if you play a Prince song and you're streaming you, uh,

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not only will social media the services Facebook and YouTube,

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not only will they say you a nasty message, but

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a team of assassins to your location. I think, yeah,

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there's a few, there's a few artists like that, Prince,

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the Beatles, A C D c Uh. Don't don't play

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any of those on your live stream if you are

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Speaker 14: It was supposed to be what was supposed to be

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an awesome documentary of Prince on like Netflix or something.

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Speaker 4: Oh really because of licensing, because of the music.

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Speaker 8: I think it's like the Family or something. Shut it down? Okay, God,

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because I think it would be great.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Well, anyway, let's do this. So we're going to

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Katie Dobbins is going to be calling in. So Katie

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was supposed to be here with us live this morning

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in studio, but she.

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Speaker 8: Still has to come to Manchester. The reasons.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, so she is on her way to Manchester, but

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it's going to be difficult for her to get here

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in time because the roads are so bad. Apparently there's accidents,

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there's road closures, is everything. So she's going to call

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in in a few minutes. What we're gonna do is

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we're gonna play a couple of her songs before she calls,

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and then we'll play a couple of them a couple

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more at the end of our conversations because Katie Dobbin's

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just amazing. She's got a new single called Grateful. We're

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gonna play that in a moment. Oh, but we're also

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gonna play you know what we'll do. We'll play Grateful

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second because I want to play that for when we're

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leading into our conversation with Katie when she calls us

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at nine point fifteen. She's got another song. So when

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she was on when she was on Granted State of

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Mind the last time that she was on there a

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few weeks ago, and I the honor and privilege of

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being on that night too, along with Texas Mike. We

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were all in studio with Rob Azevito that night, and

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so we all get to hang out and talk with Katie.

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really cool. It's a little bit of a departure for her.

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and it was recorded at Rockinghorse Studio with his name

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escapes me. Now Brian somebody, Oh, Brian Coombs. Yeah, who's

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a lot of great things have come out of that studio,

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Rocking Horse. But this song Wild is really really good.

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Grateful and then which is the newest single, and then

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Speaker 4: Talk with her and get caught up with her.

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Speaker 13: And by the way, if you missed it, her appearance

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that out as well. That was really good. She came in,

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she played live, like I said, that was the plan

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this morning. But this winter weather in the middle of

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April has kind of screwed things up. So but that's okay,

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you know, we adapt and we go forward and looking

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check this out. This is really really cool. This is

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Katie Dobbins and this is a song called Wild. And

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we'll talk with Katie. So we're just getting started here

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on this snowy Saturday morning on Matt Connorton Unleashed live

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from the studios of WM and H ninety five point

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three FM.

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Speaker 15: Like a wave crushing on the shore, your breaking walls

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down around my heart like a rushing wind. You come

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in it o world, painting it with colors I've never

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seen before.

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Speaker 9: You love, Your love.

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Speaker 16: Is life.

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Speaker 9: Any sound twenty food?

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Speaker 17: You sent my heart down running like Oh, I think

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I'm wild like you.

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Speaker 15: I hear your voice whisper in my mind. You're telling

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me leave the sure behind.

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Speaker 3: There's greater things than I can see on my noise.

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If there's something about you that makes me want to go.

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Speaker 9: You wld.

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Speaker 18: Your love is a louder than any sound. Any N't

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my heart up? Ronnie? I think I'm wild like you? Yeah,

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I'm wild like.

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Speaker 9: Show me probable in pomps batey, who want to see things?

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BRONI perspected? How long to place sends me? Old drink?

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Any Let's go with the clouds.

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Speaker 1: Meet the say.

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Speaker 9: There are only me. My heart has been said for.

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Speaker 3: Because you're.

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Speaker 18: You're this is a loud any sound whinny you sent

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my heart up amarading like I think I'm wild like you. Yeah,

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I'm a wild hike you.

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Speaker 3: I'm running, I'm runny. I'm running. I'm runny, Ho'm runny.

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Speaker 19: Ham running, harm running, I'm running, I'm running, I'm running tap.

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Speaker 3: Because your love is wild.

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Speaker 9: You shine like the north in life. You can't rady

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heading the night and I am greatful.

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Speaker 1: I am great fu.

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Speaker 3: Where there is your breath, where there is a read,

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you breave.

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Speaker 9: The piece when I can't tell kids. You say, have

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faith and I am gageful. Yes, I am greageful. You

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shine like the Nord. I not your cold s ready

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head and nut, and I am grangul. I am gage food.

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You're room kind with a ship, you bad these with

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a feel grow king you said, I am wearing you,

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mister giant the right.

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Speaker 7: You samonade book, You.

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Speaker 9: Shine like the because spading and mad sad. You're m.

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Speaker 1: Big and green and blue and the.

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Speaker 7: Bag into my word.

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Speaker 20: Color outside of the lines of known, into my well

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my song.

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Speaker 9: Cay and blee lod shut into my comside side to

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follow up my side shot.

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Speaker 9: Because Redy d Tian range the sign and grade he

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shine like the because ready my part Tyane rang the

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Sigon grade, I rad read and I am great wood.

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Speaker 13: Such a beautiful song that is grateful. The newest single

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from Katie Dobbins, who I believe is on the phone

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with us. Katie, are you there? Hello, Hey, good morning,

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good morning. It's a surprising morning, isn't it. I don't

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know if so for those of you who are listening live.

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Of course, it is snowing in New Hampshire, and not

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just snowing a little bit. It's a legit I just

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saw be Pinard posted in the uh in the chat

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room they've got three inches of snow already in Golfstown

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this morning, so it's like a legit storm. It's not

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just a little dusting. And so obviously this has affected travel.

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some sort of parking lot or something as you're talking

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Speaker 10: That is exactly where I am. It's not where I

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was hoping i'd be at this point in time, but

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I'm safe. I'm warm in my car and the snow

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is you know, it's pretty, so we can give it that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yes, I mean I don't. Uh I I was

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not pleased to see it snowing this morning.

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Speaker 13: I had no idea this was coming, but uh I

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all I heard was it was going to be, uh,

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not the best weather over the weekend.

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Speaker 4: Maybee heared, you know, some rain and whatnot.

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Speaker 13: But uh, yeah, it's it's uh it's legit messy out there.

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are in our area, please be careful. And if you're

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listening from somewhere else where, it's not snow, congratulations on that,

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but uh but uh, Katie so uh and obviously you

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the in the future, and and always love to have

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you in studio. I was talking earlier about the last

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Vito's show, Granted State of Mind, and you came in

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and played live and everything, and so look forward to

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doing that again on this program.

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Speaker 4: Uh in the future.

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Speaker 13: Hopefully this will be our last snow event uh until

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uh until next winter.

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Speaker 4: But but that sounded grateful. So that's the newest single.

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Speaker 10: Correct, Yes, that is my new single. It just came out.

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Thank you so much for playing it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: And we also have played Wild because I heard that

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song for the first time on Rob's show when Rob

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played it on Granted State of Mind and really really

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love that. And that was recorded at Rocking Horse. Correct,

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am I remembering correctly? Correct with Brian Jumes. Yeah, Yeah,

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they did a great job on that. Yeah, they did

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a great job on that. And then where was Grateful recorded?

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Was that also recorded there?

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Speaker 8: Yes?

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Speaker 10: Same spot. Actually, all four of the most recent singles

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that I've put out that I sent you to play today,

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all of those are recorded with Brian at Rocking Horse.

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And they did a great job. They all all every

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song is like a little different, which is really fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, how did you come to work with Brian?

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Speaker 13: Obviously a lot of great things have come out of

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Rocking Horse over the years, and uh, Brian does a

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great job. But and I actually I had the pleasure

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of interviewing him along with another artist he had recorded.

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This was quite a long time ago, actually on a

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different show than I do. But but it was a

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remarkable experience because I got to go there and see

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the studio and everything, very very impressive.

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Speaker 4: But how did you come to work with Brian.

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Speaker 8: Gosh?

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Speaker 10: I'm trying to think of how I first met him

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several years ago in the New Hampshire music scene. I

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can't remember. I actually can't remember exactly how I met him,

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but I met him a long time ago. I visited

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his studio years ago, like after the release of my

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first album Maybe or Yeah, and the studio is beautiful

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and he was really nice and we talked about working

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together for a long time. But I wasn't living in

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this area. I was living in Boston, so and I

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had worked at a couple of different producers down that way,

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and then I moved back to New Hampshire a few

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years ago, and so I reached out to him and

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I'm like, hey, let's finally do it. And I had

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a few the song the four songs that I wanted

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to record with him are all piano based, like I

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wrote them on piano, and they have sort of a

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like I don't know, in my mind, they had a

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big feel and I felt like he was the person

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to kind of bring out that epic, big vibe that

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I was hearing in my head, and I think he

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did a great job.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 13: Have you released a full album or has everything been

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singles or do you have an EP or whats Because

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there's so many different ways to release music now, there's

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so many different strategies and just you know, the guests

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that we've had on the show over the past few

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years seem to be using a lot of different It's

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interesting to hear about the different strategies and thought processes

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behind those.

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Speaker 4: But you seem to put out a lot of individual

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singles correct.

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Speaker 10: Correct, at least recently. That's been my That's been my

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kind of method, I guess. But I love the art

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of the album. I really do like thinking of a

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collection of songs and telling a story through songs in

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a full album, and doing the album work, and like

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thinking about the layout of what everything can look like

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and visually how that's going to support the music that's happening.

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I really really love that process. And I do have

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two albums out. One came out in twenty seventeen, She

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Is Free, and then There Is Light came out in

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twenty nineteen. But since then I've been focusing on more

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like smaller collections of song releasing one thing at a time,

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And I don't know if it's a strategy or if

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it's just kind of like where I'm at right now

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in terms of, you know, these four songs I just

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really had on my heart and was like, I got

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to get them out, but I didn't. I'm not yet

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at the point I might make them into a full

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album at some point, but I'm still working on what

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that would look like, and I have so many songs

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I'm trying to figure out which ones I want to

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focus on. Nex.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that seems to be a strategy too, that a

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lot of artists are using. Is you know, it's kind

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of the inverse of what was the traditional strategy where

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you release an album and then you release a series

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of singles from an album, But now a lot of

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artists are using I guess it's called the waterfall effect,

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where they release a series of singles that eventually will

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form an album, which I think is an interesting way

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to approach it. But but the way that you're doing it,

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it seems like it allows for a lot of flexibility

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in how you approach it, because, yeah, you could do that,

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as you were saying, you could eventually take some of

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these songs and make them an album or or not,

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you know, and and it's it's nice to have that flexibility.

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Do you find that doing it this way because you

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did at one time you as you mentioned, you released

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a couple of albums earlier in your career, do you

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find that in terms of engagement? You know, we live

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in a time too where social media engagement is so

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critical and you kind of have to feed that machine,

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you know, to keep people interested in what you're doing.

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Do you find that this approach works better releasing these

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singles because you've released singles pretty consistently, right, don't. I

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don't remember a time where you've gone a long period

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of time without releasing anything. I could be wrong, So

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I know a lot of.

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Speaker 10: Artists try to release something like once a month or

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once every few months. I'm definitely not at that frequency,

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but I'd try to get at least a couple things

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out a year, which feels like a good timeline for me.

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And I feel like I don't think there is a

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right or wrong strategy really, and I think whatever feels

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good to you as an artist is what you should do.

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But I do think that releasing one song at a

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time has given me more time to really focus on

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that song and draw people to, hey, this is a song.

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This is the thing. When I've made like my last album,

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it had twelve songs on it, and I love the

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collection of it, and I think thematically it was called

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there is Light, and the somatic idea was, you know,

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there's a light in the darkness, and the darkness doesn't win, like,

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even though life can be hard sometimes like, the light

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is always going to keep shining, so look for the light.

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And so that message was really fun to promote through

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the different songs on the album. But I did feel

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like there were some songs on that album that I

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loved that maybe didn't get, you know, as much of

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the attention that I wish they had been able to,

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because when there's twelve songs, it's hard to like fully

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highlight every single thing. So in that way, it's kind

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of fun to do one song at a time. In

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another way, I do like the storytelling aspect of having

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a whole collection.

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Speaker 13: So yeah, I don't know, do you ever think about

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re recording any of those early songs, do you? You know,

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as you've grown and evolved over the years, and you know,

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and we have we've known you for a while now. Yeah,

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I would imagine some of those you might go back

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and listen to and think, jeez, I think I could

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do those differently now or enhance them now.

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Speaker 20: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: There's actually there's a song on my first album, bring

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On the Fire, that had to really kind of poppy,

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fun feel that I did record a totally different way

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for my second album because I started playing it differently

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when I was doing live shows and I'm like, wait,

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I actually kind of want to do like a slowed down,

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speak easy, you know, chill version of this song, and

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so we that and I loved it, and both versions

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are really fun. They're really different. There's another song on

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my first record called Daddy's Song that I think is

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beautiful and it's about the relationship between me and my

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dad that I have thought about rerecording because I mean,

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people will tell me they love she is Free, and

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I do think it's a really fun record. But you're

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so critical of yourself, right, and it came out almost well,

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it came out eight years ago now, so sometimes I

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listen and I'm like, I sound so much younger. So

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it's more just me being probably critical, But sometimes it's

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that I want to bring something new out of the song,

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and that's what we did with the Bring on the

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Fire song.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, when you play out, do you play that early

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material still? I would imagine you do, right, I do, Yeah,

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I do.

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Speaker 10: And I like to kind of include things from all

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of the different sonic periods of my music evolution.

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Speaker 9: I guess yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, when you recorded why I mean to go back

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to that for a moment.

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Speaker 13: And I know we talked about it too on We

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talked about it on Granded State of Mind because Rob

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was so Rob was very taken with that song as well,

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because it is a little bit it's a little bit

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different from.

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Speaker 4: Your other stuff. And your dad is actually on that song, correct.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, that was really really cool. We brought him in

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studio and actually when we were doing the when we

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were working on the production of that song, the one

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of the producers, Josh, he took the song home over

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the weekend because he was like, I want to try

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like a couple kind of cool electronic drum machine things

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on it. And I had no idea what he was

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going to do when he came back with it, and

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it had that cool kind of rhythmic stuff in it,

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and I love. I just loved it, and then he

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also had this kind of radio sounding thing, and I'm like,

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what is that. It's cool. It's kind of like draws

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you in a little bit and makes you go, wait,

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what's happening? And he was like, Oh, it's actually an

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old track that I made sound like an old radio

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from something that he used in a different album or something.

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And I loved it, but I wanted to make it personal,

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so I brought my dad in and he wrote out

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a little piece to speak, like a little speaking part,

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and that kind of resonated with what the song's about,

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and he recorded it and then they distorted it and

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did all this stuff to make it have that cool

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kind of radio effect. So I love that he's in

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the track and it was really fun, yeah to do that.

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Speaker 13: When you first approached your dad with it, what was

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his initial reaction like, was he on board immediately or

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was he kind of like, wait.

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Speaker 4: You want me to do what?

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Speaker 10: I was totally on board and excited, but he was

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also I think he was a little nervous, and I

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think and he worked really hard on like what he

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wanted to say, because you know, it's meaningful and I

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really like every part of the process of creation to

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have like special meaning, and so he knew that and

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he took that, you know, really seriously, and it was

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really sweet and it meant a lot.

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Speaker 4: Is your dad, I assume he's a musician.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 10: He has always played guitar. We've always had several guitars

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in the house, like from as young as I can remember.

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He doesn't perform, so he's not a performing musician, but

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he's a definite lover and player of music for sure.

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Speaker 4: Did he teach you?

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Speaker 13: I mean, I don't know if maybe you're self taught,

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but did he or did he influence you in terms

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of learning to play guitar when you were growing up.

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Speaker 10: I think he definitely influenced me, because you know, you

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always look up to your mom and your dad and

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whatever it is that they're up to you. Just seeing

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him play the guitars, you know, I'm sure I was like, Wow,

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that's so cool. I alant to play guitar. But we

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laugh about it because I actually he had offered to

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teach me guitar, and I was kind of like, no, not.

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And then in eighth grade a friend of mine taught

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me a few chords and I'm like, Dad, can you

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believe it? I only know three chords, and now I

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can play all these songs and like, look at this

478
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,240
song I wrote, And he's like, are you kidding? I

479
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,519
could have taught right, That's just kind of what happens

480
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:03,720
when you're a preteen girl.

481
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: Sometimes I think, oh, sure, sure, but.

482
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 10: We've actually worked together, Like there's a couple of songs

483
00:30:10,279 --> 00:30:13,680
that have little rifts in them or little guitar a

484
00:30:13,759 --> 00:30:16,039
different guitar chord that I wouldn't have thought of that

485
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,640
actually came from him giving me advice or saying, oh,

486
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,799
what if you tried this chord there. So more recently

487
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,880
that has been kind of fun.

488
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,559
Speaker 13: Yeah, oh yeah, that's very cool and I'm sure he's

489
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,799
I'm sure he's enormously proud of you. Oh and I

490
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,440
just remember too, I had the pleasure of meeting him

491
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,640
on the greatest side of mind. You brought him with you,

492
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,319
which was really cool. Yeah, yeah, no, he seems he

493
00:30:37,319 --> 00:30:40,559
seems awesome. It's nice that he is so supportive, and

494
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,519
I think I think for a lot of people who

495
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:48,039
do anything creative, whether it's music or anything else, you know,

496
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,359
having supportive parents is always a big help. And not

497
00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:54,599
everyone does, and they can still go on to do

498
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,240
creative things. But I think if you do have supportive parents,

499
00:30:57,279 --> 00:30:58,599
it kind of gives you a little bit of a

500
00:30:58,640 --> 00:30:59,440
head start.

501
00:30:59,279 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 8: You know.

502
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,839
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, it's a game changer. I owe a lot

503
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,559
to them. They both of my parents are very supportive

504
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,319
in me pursuing my dreams and it means the world.

505
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, is your mom a musician at all?

506
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:18,839
Speaker 10: She actually has been teaching herself piano more recently, which

507
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:22,839
has been really fun. And yeah, I always try to

508
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:25,559
get her to sing with me. But and she can sing,

509
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,960
but she maybe she's shy. I'm not sure.

510
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: Yeah.

511
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, how did you learn to sing? Are you self taught?

512
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 10: I just always was in I just always loved to sing,

513
00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:42,319
you know, I'm not self taught. I was in various

514
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,200
choirs from again, like elementary school and forward. I was

515
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,839
always in some kind of singing choir or singing and

516
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,440
dancing thing. Yeah, and I did take some voice lessons

517
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,680
in middle and high school, and as an adult I've

518
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,759
taken some lessons too, Like every time I record in this,

519
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:02,759
I like to go back go to a voice teacher

520
00:32:02,839 --> 00:32:04,599
and kind of work on those songs that I'm going

521
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,000
to record and just make sure that I feel really

522
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:11,880
good about them and I'm using the most powerful or

523
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,599
appropriate technique for whatever song I'm gonna work on. So yeah,

524
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,720
I think it's always good to keep keep training, keep

525
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:20,079
working on all those skills.

526
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 13: Well, that's really interesting, and that demonstrates the level of

527
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,319
commitment that you have to making sure these songs come

528
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,519
out the best that they possibly can, because very few

529
00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:34,720
people do that. I mean I've certainly read interviews and

530
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,039
seen interviews with other singers who do that, but rarely

531
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,640
I've met very few musicians who will actually have very

532
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,759
few singers who will actually go and work with a

533
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,880
voice coach or a voice teacher of some kind. And

534
00:32:50,079 --> 00:32:52,839
what you just described, you know, Okay, I've got this song,

535
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,559
I'm gonna be recording it. I want to get with

536
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,559
a voice coach and make sure that I can do

537
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,559
this the best that I can. I mean that that

538
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,799
is I think, and not to not to shame anybody

539
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:04,920
who doesn't do that, I'm just saying though, that I

540
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:08,640
think demonstrates a really high level of commitment on your part,

541
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,039
and I think that's that's commendable because that's not something

542
00:33:11,279 --> 00:33:13,880
that's not something I think most singers it would even

543
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,440
occur to them to do that, you know what I mean?

544
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:21,519
Speaker 10: Hmmm, Yeah, I mean I think for me when I'm recording,

545
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,279
it's like, you're making such an investment into this song.

546
00:33:24,559 --> 00:33:25,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's an.

547
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 10: Investment that is, it's your time, it's your heart, and

548
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:33,680
it's of course financial, and then this song is gonna,

549
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,319
you hope, it's gonna you know, live and resonate in

550
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:40,359
the airwaves forever. So right right, it's kind of I

551
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,799
do I take it really probably too seriously. I think

552
00:33:42,839 --> 00:33:45,200
every producer I've worked with would probably tell you, yeah,

553
00:33:45,319 --> 00:33:46,920
she's a little bit of a perfectionist.

554
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 9: Really.

555
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,079
Speaker 10: I try to let go of it because it's a

556
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,880
balance between creativity and like really wanting things to come

557
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,480
out well, and you do have to kind of keep

558
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:58,599
yourself in check. But yeah, it always feels like such

559
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,839
a big deal, like, oh my god, this song is

560
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,519
coming out and it's gonna live forever.

561
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

562
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:04,359
Speaker 9: Have you ever had that.

563
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 13: Happen where someone you're you're working with tells you, hey,

564
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,159
you got to relax a little bit. You're you're almost

565
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,480
you're almost trying to be too i don't know, too

566
00:34:14,599 --> 00:34:17,679
perfect or whatever, like is anyone actually ever said that

567
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:17,920
to you.

568
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,119
Speaker 10: I think in my early days of performing and recording,

569
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,880
I got that feedback a little bit from people, not

570
00:34:28,119 --> 00:34:31,440
from a producer, but from people that I was close to,

571
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:33,320
just saying like, hey, make sure you're having fun.

572
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, just like does it sound good?

573
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:37,039
Speaker 10: Am I hitting all the notes?

574
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:37,199
Speaker 21: You know?

575
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,360
Speaker 10: And it's like I was like, oh yeah. And that

576
00:34:39,559 --> 00:34:42,199
was definitely a big turning point for me of growth

577
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,920
being a performer. It's like, oh wait, I can't just

578
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:46,840
you know, I was younger, but it's like I can't

579
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,239
just sing the songs. I gotta I gotta live out

580
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,840
these songs and really like, you know, believe what I'm

581
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,760
singing and connect with people, because that's otherwise what am

582
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,400
I doing? Yeah, And so that was like huge game changer.

583
00:35:00,679 --> 00:35:05,800
And during the making of my second record, There Is Light,

584
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,039
I did have a conversation with my producer about perfectionism.

585
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:14,719
We actually did a podcast episode about it together because

586
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,800
at the time I had a podcast, and so we

587
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,039
did like breaking Free from Perfectionism, and he said something

588
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:28,679
that really struck with me, which was perfection perfect No.

589
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,119
He said, a song is never perfect. You just run

590
00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:35,679
out of time. He's like, it's never going to be perfect.

591
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,159
You just run out of time. And the whole thing

592
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,360
is like some artists will work on a song for

593
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:44,880
so long and then it just never comes out because

594
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,480
by the time they've done with it, they're either sick

595
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,440
of it or they hate it, or they can't get

596
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,920
it to where they want to want it to be.

597
00:35:50,159 --> 00:35:51,880
And then it's like the world is missing out on

598
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:56,679
that beautiful, creative song because you just perfected it to death,

599
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,440
you know. So I definitely have had those conversations, not

600
00:36:00,599 --> 00:36:03,280
in a condescending way. People have been really supportive and

601
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,719
understanding of like, yeah, I know you want this to

602
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,519
be your best work, but also like I feel this

603
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,039
song right now, and I think other people are going

604
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:14,599
to to and that's most important, So let's let it

605
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:15,519
breathe from here.

606
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

607
00:36:17,559 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 10: It's challenging by the way.

608
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: Jay Bellow is in the chat room.

609
00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:23,760
Speaker 13: He is, of course the lead singer of Chasing the Devil,

610
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,199
a great band, and and Jay is another example of

611
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,400
someone who really puts a lot into his craft and

612
00:36:29,679 --> 00:36:31,559
takes it very seriously and always wants it to be

613
00:36:31,639 --> 00:36:33,480
the best it can. And and Jay said in the

614
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,599
chat love The idea of using a coach prior to

615
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:38,360
recording such a great idea.

616
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,039
Speaker 4: Yeah.

617
00:36:39,199 --> 00:36:41,119
Speaker 13: Yeah, Like I said, it's not something most people would

618
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:44,440
even think of, you know, but but yeah, but no,

619
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,440
I think that's I think that's great that you do that,

620
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,159
and I think it does show up in your vocal

621
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,599
performances that that level, that degree of commitment.

622
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:55,199
Speaker 8: Thanks do you.

623
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:58,039
Speaker 4: By the way, I probably asked you this before, but

624
00:36:58,119 --> 00:36:59,159
do you remember the first.

625
00:36:59,039 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 8: Song you ever wrote?

626
00:37:02,159 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 10: The first song I ever wrote was a cappella because

627
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,559
I didn't know how to play guitar yet and I

628
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,079
didn't know how to write on piano. But it was

629
00:37:10,159 --> 00:37:13,159
a song for my best friend in fifth grade who

630
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:18,559
moved away to California. Oh no, kidding, And the song

631
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,719
was called best Friend.

632
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 8: Yeah.

633
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 4: Did that song survive or some version of that song survive? Like,

634
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:26,960
do you still play it today?

635
00:37:27,079 --> 00:37:27,119
Speaker 22: No?

636
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,159
Speaker 10: I mean I still kind of remember it, but it

637
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:36,159
survives in my mind. Yeah, And that's probably where we'll stay.

638
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,559
Speaker 13: Right right now, I understand. And now, what's the live

639
00:37:39,679 --> 00:37:41,840
situation lately? Are you playing out a lot?

640
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 23: I am.

641
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 10: I'm super thankful. There's so many awesome venues around the

642
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,920
state and around New England and I play a monthly.

643
00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:55,599
I host a monthly singer songwriter showcase up in Meredith,

644
00:37:55,679 --> 00:37:58,840
New Hampshire at a listening room called Hermitwood's Winery Okay,

645
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,400
where I play in the round with guest artists every month.

646
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:05,400
So those shows have been really cool. And uh, if

647
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,440
you're in the Manchester area this evening, I'm playing for

648
00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:11,599
the boot Barn grand opening at the Mall of New

649
00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:15,880
Hampshire from four to seven, So that should be fun. Now,

650
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,559
girl Boots, Yeah.

651
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 4: We know someone who's gonna be there.

652
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,159
Speaker 13: I think, uh, I think, uh Jenny isn't uh Christian

653
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,119
going to be there for uh for the station he

654
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,440
works out. You mentioned the boot Barn grand opening the

655
00:38:27,519 --> 00:38:30,039
other day. I think he's gonna positive cool. I think

656
00:38:30,079 --> 00:38:33,199
he's gonna be there, but uh yeah, uh no, that's

657
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,400
that's very cool. And then uh so you've got that tonight.

658
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: And then are you are you?

659
00:38:39,079 --> 00:38:41,159
Speaker 13: Are you playing shows every week or are you are

660
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:43,360
you keeping are you keeping busy? Obviously as we get

661
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:43,679
into the.

662
00:38:43,639 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 10: Warm, I play a few I usually play a few

663
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,960
times a week, three or four times a week, depending

664
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,119
on what's going on. And uh, in May I'm actually

665
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:55,480
doing a road trip down to Nashville. So I have

666
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:58,360
a show in West Virginia on my way, and then

667
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,960
I'm doing some writers around in Nashville. So I'm really excited.

668
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:05,800
It's I signed that city to be very inspirational, and

669
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,079
so I'm really excited just to hear a ton of

670
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:12,440
original music and just get saturated in it a little bit.

671
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, have you been there before? Have we talked about that?

672
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:16,719
Have you been to Nashville before?

673
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,320
Speaker 10: I have, Yeah, I've been several times, but I haven't

674
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,199
been since the world went so crazy a few years ago.

675
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,199
To my first time back in a while.

676
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 4: Oh, very cool? Very cool?

677
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 13: Is that intimidating at all going to Nashville, or at

678
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,960
least the first time, because it seems like everyone we've

679
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,159
had on the show who has been to Nashville has

680
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:43,599
had a positive experience. But but also it sounds like

681
00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:45,719
it can be a little bit scary at first, because

682
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,679
you know, it's it's Nashville, It's you knows there's such

683
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,480
a concentration of talent there and a lot of and

684
00:39:52,559 --> 00:39:55,880
a lot of very successful songwriters obviously as well, not

685
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:59,159
not only performers and people that we would know, but

686
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,679
but people who may not be household names, but.

687
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 4: Who have written a lot of hit songs. Is that

688
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,800
intimidating like the first time you go there?

689
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 10: I think it probably depends on what your goal is.

690
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:16,079
Like if I was going down with a goal, with

691
00:40:16,199 --> 00:40:19,960
a specific goal, I might be more nervous. I go

692
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:24,760
to Nashville because I think it's always really really good

693
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:28,400
to surround yourself with people who are better than you.

694
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:32,559
I find that really exciting to be like, wow, like

695
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:35,239
I'm going to hear songs written by people who have

696
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,599
written for Tim McGraw and Kelsey Valerini and like they've

697
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:42,239
had such success in this world. And I find that

698
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,239
to be really encouraging and exciting, like, Hey, this is

699
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,800
actually something that people do and they do it well

700
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,239
and they do it successfully. And then I hear their

701
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,840
songs and I'm like, wow, I really need to get

702
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,159
better at my songwriting. And so I leave with ideas

703
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,400
and I leave with kind of like a re ignited

704
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,840
fire and passion. Yeah, and that's kind of what I

705
00:41:04,079 --> 00:41:07,320
what I go for. So I don't find it. I

706
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,800
personally don't find it intimidating. I find it exciting. But

707
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,880
I could see why people would because yeah, I mean

708
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,960
you never know who you're going to run into, and

709
00:41:15,559 --> 00:41:18,920
it is there are a lot of songwriters in Nashville,

710
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,480
so if you're trying to go, I mean they call

711
00:41:20,559 --> 00:41:22,280
it a ten year town. So if you're trying to go,

712
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:27,000
have be a successful you know, get signed and be

713
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,480
you know, get a record label, record deal and all

714
00:41:29,559 --> 00:41:31,400
that kind of stuff. I mean they say it can

715
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,519
take ten years. Of course, there are I'm sure stories

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that are different than that, but sure, sure, So if

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you're going with that gold, then I'm sure it would

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feel intimidating, but I just go for passion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Katie. What should people know? The time

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goes quickly.

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Speaker 13: But because I want to after our conversation, I'm going

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to play Giants, and I'm going to play and I'm

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also going to play Oh what was the other one

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you'd sent us?

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Speaker 9: I have it here just because I can't, Oh, because

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I can.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Giants.

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Speaker 13: I'm excited to play because I don't think I had

729
00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:08,639
heard that that song before until you played it live

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on Grandited State of Mind the last time you were

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here at the station.

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Speaker 4: And I love that song. I love the lyrics. That's

733
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that's so good.

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Speaker 10: Oh thank you?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I really really love that much.

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Speaker 13: So we're gonna we're gonna play both of those after

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we after we finish up. But I want to make

738
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sure people know what should they know about how to

739
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keep up with everything that you're doing online so they

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can get to a show, keep an eye on new

741
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music that you're releasing, all that good stuff. Where's the

742
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best place for people to go for that?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, thank you so much. So I have a website.

744
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It's Katidobbins music dot com and from there you can

745
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find links to all my socials, all my music pages.

746
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There's a mailing list you can sign up for. I

747
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,159
send out a monthly email at the beginning of every month.

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It's called the Monthly b and it's kind of a

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play on my motto, which is bub Brave, be Free,

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and so in it, I always write a little encouraging

751
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,639
message about being yourself, being brave or being free, and

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then updates about where I'm playing that month, any new

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music that came out, in any new exciting stuff that's happening.

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So the website is kind of a one stop shop.

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And then you can also find me on social media

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at Katie Dobbin's Music and yeah, you can listen to

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all my music on Spotify, Apple, Pandora, wherever you like

758
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to listen, or on Matt's radio show. Thank you so much, Matt.

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Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, always happy to do that. And Katie, we'll

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let you go.

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Speaker 13: I'm going to play those tracks, but please continue to

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travel safely today and have a great event tonight at

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the boot Barn, and we will look forward to the

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next time we can have you live with us in studio.

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And like I said, hopefully this is our final winter

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storm of the season.

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Speaker 4: My goodness, it's so.

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Speaker 10: So I so wish I was in person with you,

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but I really appreciate your flexibility. I could call it

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and this was really fun. Oh always know I'm sitting

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in a parking lot instead of in that really cool

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new studio, but yeah, I look forward to doing that

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sometime hopefully soon.

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Speaker 13: Absolutely, we will definitely all right, Katie, we'll let you

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go for now. Thank you so much for calling, and

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we'll talk.

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Speaker 4: To you soon.

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Speaker 10: Thank you. Thanks everyone, have a great day.

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Speaker 4: You got it.

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Speaker 13: Bye bye, all right, the great Katie Dobbins, and we

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will close out this segment with like I said, I'm

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gonna play both of these tracks. We played two to open,

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and I want to play two to close. We've got

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Giants and then just because I can both great songs,

785
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but I really love Giants. I really love the lyrics,

786
00:44:36,679 --> 00:44:39,239
so this is very very interesting. Katie played this live

787
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on Granite State of Mind with us a few weeks

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ago and I was very impressed. So we'll give these

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a spend. And then if you are listening live on

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Saturday again, if you're traveling, please be careful. We have

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a bit of a winter snow event in the middle

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of April here in New Hampshire. But coming up in

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the second hour, Echo Ray will be with us, and

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in the third hour we have Jesse Rotstein and so

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we've got plenty more.

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Speaker 4: Matt Connorton unleash to come.

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Speaker 13: We are live from the studios of WM and H

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ninety five point three FM in snowy, wintry Manchester, New Hampshire.

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Speaker 4: But check this out. This is Giants by Katie Dobbins.

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Speaker 15: Your sweatshirt falling off my should. It's too big, Bud.

801
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:36,159
Then again it always was. When did I become so small?

802
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:42,159
Living in your shadow? I don't fail the space saddle.

803
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She's like I've been swallow. Don't take too much space,

804
00:45:52,599 --> 00:46:02,440
my mime shrink, so I don't race skin bed or

805
00:46:02,679 --> 00:46:07,480
to be sick then to be sorry.

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00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:14,639
Speaker 9: Well I'm sorry I don't feel safe. But around chin,

807
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:25,119
maybe it's time back. Come mad har hating sun, just mad,

808
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:26,119
make god.

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Speaker 1: And lie.

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00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,079
Speaker 9: Just so you could think then you are the cho

811
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You're come rushing off my should terms.

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00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,039
Speaker 3: It's a herd powering.

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Speaker 15: But then again it always once now.

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Speaker 22: That arts coming clean, shedding everything good me renewing wrong

815
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,079
night skin and tell me are you panisky?

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00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 9: Baby? Do you fisting boma shy head because something fins

817
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:20,360
turn back come matter har anting smart just to make

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saying god.

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Speaker 18: And lie.

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Speaker 9: Just so you could think that you are the job.

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You know job, don't too much choice space man maps.

822
00:47:47,639 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 3: Shriek so I don't risk anything.

823
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Speaker 1: Try to crawl tat me, but I know no.

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Speaker 16: The giant side, so I don't think the same.

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Speaker 9: Shine times time, how take its too small?

826
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Speaker 1: Test may speak, but as.

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Speaker 9: That to stist to show.

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Speaker 10: Jump no no shu.

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Speaker 9: Hiant side.

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Speaker 5: Known giant horny.

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Speaker 3: The fighting sont just makes.

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Speaker 16: Me good giant sort.

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Speaker 3: The acting sont just makes me.

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Speaker 9: Giant son, make bally giant sort, just make.

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Speaker 15: Believe you shine like the northerheart.

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Speaker 9: You come sprady heading the night, and I am greatful.

837
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I am greatful.

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Speaker 3: Where there is Oh, you bereave where there is a world.

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Speaker 9: You bereave the piece. When I can't take kids, you say,

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have faith, And I am greageful.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I am greageful.

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Speaker 9: You shine like the Nord I not your cold spading

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reading and not, and I am the angel. I am gerage.

844
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You're a.

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Speaker 3: Kind believing ship.

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Speaker 16: You breath.

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Speaker 7: With a feel, grow kick you.

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Speaker 9: Said, I am wearing. You believe, mister tied the right.

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Speaker 7: Sand bird.

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Speaker 9: You shine like the all hide the corpa sad.

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00:51:54,159 --> 00:52:14,079
Speaker 1: You're big and green and blue and.

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Speaker 3: The bug into my word.

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00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:31,079
Speaker 20: Color outside of the lights of known until her well,

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my so.

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Speaker 9: Called and blue bag into my comside, my side, to

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00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:12,400
flow up my side. You shine like them do because

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te rang the sign and bade.

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Speaker 1: You shine like.

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Speaker 9: Do because sad my mind tan the sign and read

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I am bad read time.

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Speaker 11: Yoshi.

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Speaker 6: The sun's supposed to boomt wars, but there's snow on

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the play. Lanchester's feeling like the North Pole zone.

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Speaker 11: I'm out here in boots when that's a rock colone

865
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:22,320
smell bead ship.

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Speaker 9: And this is string gone love.

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Speaker 6: I's some of buck like winters out siddles, he wi

868
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sipp you won blood.

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Speaker 11: I'm bundled and said, come on, New Hampshire. Wasn't messing

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with my head. I'm pulling my shovel away. Thought I'd

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seen the last flake. Now I'm out here again, cleaning pass.

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Speaker 6: I can't take win a chill pulling cranks playing that season.

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Speaker 3: What's going on up there?

874
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Speaker 6: Weather got no reason smell beach ship and this is

875
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:53,000
spring gone loud. I's some of buck like winters out sidled,

876
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:54,840
he wis sipp you one blood.

877
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:55,559
Speaker 3: I'm bundled and.

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00:54:55,639 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 11: Said, come on, New Hampshirt wasn't messing with my head.

879
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 4: I'll pull my shovel away.

880
00:55:01,599 --> 00:55:03,280
Speaker 7: I thought I'd seen the last flake.

881
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,679
Speaker 4: Now I'm out here again, cleaning pass.

882
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 11: I can't take waynard chill pulling franks playing that season.

883
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 3: What's going on up there?

884
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:12,519
Speaker 4: Weather got no reason?

885
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,519
Speaker 6: No beat shit, and this spring gone loud? I summer

886
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:21,039
buck like windows exiled aquillsip be one blood and bundled

887
00:55:21,079 --> 00:55:22,440
and said, come on him.

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00:55:22,599 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 7: Sure wasn't missing with my head.

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Speaker 4: Sun's on vacation, clouds taking.

890
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Speaker 13: Charge, dropping here in the stone man.

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Speaker 6: That's a sabotage, blue skysil, hostage by a frosty spree,

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mothering nature.

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Speaker 3: What's this joke you're pulling on me?

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Speaker 6: Dream of barcues, Now stuck with this deal? Puffy coat

895
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and gloves man, how about you?

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Speaker 3: I want to see green glass. Forget the police.

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