WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.480 --> 00:00:19.280 Hey, y'all, welcome to another episode of soccer for US. 2 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:23.239 I am mart and talking on this episode with me 3 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:27.920 is the greatest historian on this here Twitter. First, it 4 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:34.240 is Thomas aka US keeper Thomas. We are about we're 5 00:00:34.280 --> 00:00:36.679 talking players on this episode, but we're about to see 6 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:39.000 a bunch of U seventeen players go out there and 7 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:41.799 play for the US men's national team. That's kind of exciting. 8 00:00:42.960 --> 00:00:44.759 It always is, I tell you, the men or woman 9 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:47.719 I I really I enjoy watching it because it's again, 10 00:00:47.759 --> 00:00:49.520 it's the next it's the next group we need to 11 00:00:49.560 --> 00:00:51.719 you know, he's a fifteen, sixteen year old you know 12 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:55.399 kids out here, but you know they the quality of 13 00:00:57.079 --> 00:00:59.840 this group and you know, even to you twenty ten 14 00:01:00.119 --> 00:01:04.719 really impressed me. It's fun to watch and to see, 15 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:07.840 especially with this group because typically most players get released 16 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:10.879 for these qualifiers in the World Cup, so you do 17 00:01:11.519 --> 00:01:12.680 a lot of times. You have to see the kind 18 00:01:12.719 --> 00:01:14.640 of the best when in that age group. It's just 19 00:01:14.680 --> 00:01:17.040 really fun to watch and keep an eye on and 20 00:01:17.120 --> 00:01:22.159 just more soccer is always good. 21 00:01:22.280 --> 00:01:25.000 So the US men we like, that's weird to say 22 00:01:25.040 --> 00:01:28.959 men's use seventeen, but that's what they're as the men's 23 00:01:29.040 --> 00:01:33.640 U seventeen players. They're down in Costa Rica. There are 24 00:01:34.359 --> 00:01:39.000 like six venues selected to host and there are a 25 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.400 bunch of different countries, which is kind of cool. This 26 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:45.040 is a different qualifying setup than we've had in recent years. 27 00:01:45.079 --> 00:01:48.480 There's no actual tournament, which is a little disappointing. That 28 00:01:48.640 --> 00:01:52.560 reason is because the U seventeen World Cup, in addition 29 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.439 to going to every year both men's and women's side, 30 00:01:56.560 --> 00:01:59.200 now the U seventeen and U twenty level are every year. 31 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:03.239 In addition to that, they've expanded it to forty eight teams, 32 00:02:03.239 --> 00:02:07.040 so Conker CAF will get eight teams into this tournament. 33 00:02:07.120 --> 00:02:11.360 So the setup is you have eight groups, which eight 34 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:18.199 groups of four. Well, actually I say that there's let's 35 00:02:18.199 --> 00:02:21.240 see three groups of five and then five groups of four. 36 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:24.719 Whatever point as you have eight groups and you're going 37 00:02:24.759 --> 00:02:28.159 to I had the winner of each group advance directly 38 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:31.199 to the World Cup. There's no knockouts, which is a 39 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:35.960 little disappointing. But US is in Group F which involves Cuba, 40 00:02:36.400 --> 00:02:38.800 Saint Kitts and EVAs and the team they're playing tonight 41 00:02:38.840 --> 00:02:43.400 that we're recording, the US Virgin Islands. Now, this qualification 42 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.039 is a little different because, like I said, the tournament's 43 00:02:47.039 --> 00:02:52.719 different Thomas. They have done away with the traditional format 44 00:02:53.800 --> 00:02:58.560 and instead of you know, group stage advancing to a 45 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:02.360 knockout stage, they have a group stage and a knockout 46 00:03:02.400 --> 00:03:05.800 stage within the same group. So you have, as they're 47 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:13.439 putting it, four twelve team many tournaments. So each many 48 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:17.520 tournament is three groups of four teams which would play 49 00:03:17.560 --> 00:03:20.159 on a single round robin basis. It's a lot complicated. 50 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:21.960 We'll talk about it later as we get, like actually 51 00:03:22.000 --> 00:03:25.639 closer to November when this happens, But the question really 52 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:28.800 is how do you feel about this going too a 53 00:03:28.879 --> 00:03:30.919 kind of a yearly basis as opposed to what it 54 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:34.319 used to be a bi annual affair. 55 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:38.680 I don't know, I'm a little I mean, it's more 56 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:40.879 of it, which I kind of like. But I think, 57 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:44.319 you know, the this is the challenge, right we want 58 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:51.479 these players playing in these tournaments, and sometimes you just 59 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:53.759 missed the window right for as a player to be 60 00:03:53.840 --> 00:03:56.080 able to do that. So I think this gives players 61 00:03:56.080 --> 00:04:00.360 more of an opportunity to play in that environment. It's 62 00:04:00.479 --> 00:04:03.680 it's a lot of teams. I think it's you know, 63 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:08.000 waters down the tournament in general, but the world Cups 64 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:10.280 doing that as well. I think what we're seeing with 65 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:13.199 this kind of this weird knockout stage type stuff is 66 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:18.959 they're experimenting, right because I think they they're trying to 67 00:04:18.959 --> 00:04:21.279 figure out if there's other ways to go about when 68 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:22.959 they get to the World Cup right there. I think 69 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:24.439 they're just trying to see whether it is. I think 70 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:26.680 it's interesting that that they're trying this level. I think 71 00:04:26.680 --> 00:04:30.639 it's fine that they're trying it this level. I It'll 72 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:33.240 be interesting to see how it plays out, but I 73 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:36.040 think I think the players will have more of a 74 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:41.560 chance to play regularly in these tournaments and hopefully not 75 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:42.680 watering down too much. 76 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:44.360 I mean, FIFA is pretty good. 77 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:47.000 I would say at this level, I'm saying, yeah, this 78 00:04:47.040 --> 00:04:49.360 isn't really working the way we anticipated it. 79 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:52.240 Let's pull back and go back to the other format. 80 00:04:52.360 --> 00:04:56.439 So we'll see how it runs through this cycle and 81 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:59.279 and I'm sure they'll they'll make any adjustments as needed. 82 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:03.879 But look, I think you could make the argument for 83 00:05:04.040 --> 00:05:06.720 a very small Youth World Cup, but you could also 84 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:10.000 make that a very strong argument for a larger youth 85 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:12.560 World Cup. So you know, forty eight teams is fine. 86 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:18.639 It allows CONCA calf eight teams. Again, I don't love 87 00:05:18.680 --> 00:05:20.399 that we don't get like a true knockout, so you 88 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:23.879 get that champion of the of the region type vibe. 89 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:28.879 But if you're getting real honest, it should make it 90 00:05:28.959 --> 00:05:33.839 easier for us to qualify for the tournament. But to 91 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:36.160 your point, I love that we're especially at the U 92 00:05:36.240 --> 00:05:40.120 twenty level. I think especially you know, you might be 93 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:45.680 a guy who has a late birthday right within the cycle, 94 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:50.279 so you know, for you, if you're this wasn't a 95 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:52.120 problem for me, But I know several people who their 96 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:56.439 birthdays were somewhere between May and June in our birth 97 00:05:56.519 --> 00:05:59.199 year type thing that we did, and that's just a 98 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:02.639 hard development at eighteen, you know, either fifteen or sixteen 99 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:04.079 to play at the U seventeens, or maybe it's an 100 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.879 eighteen or nineteen to play at the twenties. And so 101 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:09.240 to your point, you're not missing out right like you're 102 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:11.360 going to be able to fit in a little bit 103 00:06:11.399 --> 00:06:14.920 better with your age group, you know. I think it 104 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.560 to your point also gives on the flip side, maybe 105 00:06:18.639 --> 00:06:21.560 you have a guy like I don't know, Kevin Sullivan 106 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:27.240 who's on this you know team right now, who clearly 107 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:31.439 has a huge upside from a career path who maybe 108 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:33.920 now gets to play multiple these World Cup things, and 109 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.439 you know, he might not play in out every tournament 110 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:39.519 from now until he's twenty, but it gives him a 111 00:06:39.560 --> 00:06:41.839 couple of options to be able to go. Or maybe 112 00:06:41.879 --> 00:06:44.519 it's like, well, hey, this year, no my team does it, 113 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:47.560 but next year maybe they do. And maybe it's a 114 00:06:47.600 --> 00:06:50.240 little bit like you're not fighting that battle as much 115 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:52.720 with clubs to get guys released. 116 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:55.759 Yeah, I think it creats a little and I think 117 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:57.839 you have a little bit more opportunity to create a 118 00:06:57.879 --> 00:07:01.720 little continuity because there's always there's always gaps, right, and 119 00:07:01.720 --> 00:07:03.199 so they're like, oh, let's work with this group. 120 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:04.600 This guy is still eligible for this. 121 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:07.600 You know, we can you know, and they can kind 122 00:07:07.600 --> 00:07:09.720 of tear it a little bit better and build up 123 00:07:09.720 --> 00:07:12.399 to a little bit more from seventeens to twenties. Right, 124 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:15.600 So that's going to allow maybe a little bit more 125 00:07:15.639 --> 00:07:18.720 of that connuity between the groups of players instead of saying, well, 126 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:21.759 here in the slot, here's your window. You're done, right, 127 00:07:21.800 --> 00:07:24.600 and so say, well, now next year, maybe we'll bring 128 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:29.279 another player up that's into the twenties or the seventeens 129 00:07:29.360 --> 00:07:32.000 or however it works. I think that's just where they're 130 00:07:32.000 --> 00:07:33.759 going to have to navigate that and I think that's 131 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:37.560 you know, really important for the US Soccer to be 132 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:40.759 able to maximize those opportunities. 133 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:43.560 And really and figure it out right. 134 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:46.560 I mean, that's where you know, Matt Crocker is going 135 00:07:46.600 --> 00:07:49.120 to have to really make sure he's got the right 136 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:53.560 people involved in making sure that that progression is where 137 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:57.800 it needs to be for for that growth and just 138 00:07:58.199 --> 00:08:00.360 you know, make sure you're pulling in the right players. 139 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:03.680 I do want to point out that in this konkakaf 140 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:08.000 you seventeen qualifiers again not championships qualifiers. Got to get 141 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:12.000 that nomenclature correct. They're playing Group A and Bermuda, and 142 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:13.639 I just kind of love that because it gives smaller 143 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:15.600 nations a chance to host something like this. It's kind 144 00:08:15.639 --> 00:08:19.560 of fun. But that's neither here nor there. We are 145 00:08:19.639 --> 00:08:25.439 really here Thomas Tonight to talk about a fifty player roster. Now, 146 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:29.319 this was a challenge issued to me by the godfather 147 00:08:29.439 --> 00:08:33.000 of our Soccer down Here network and the godfather of 148 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:37.159 soccer in Atlanta, as we jokingly say, Jason Longshoe, who 149 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:41.720 Jason Longshore aka long Shoe who said, hey, why don't 150 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:43.559 you just go to a fifty man roster, because as 151 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:48.840 you and I know, that's like the provisional roster for 152 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:51.519 a tournament, right, you usually get a fifty man provisional 153 00:08:51.840 --> 00:08:54.159 which is what people, you know, teams will then select 154 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:58.320 from to build their twenty three player roster for tournament. 155 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:01.279 So that was kind of the challenge, and we wanted 156 00:09:01.320 --> 00:09:07.039 to again build out what our depth chart might be. 157 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:11.720 And I think it's fun to kind of look at 158 00:09:11.720 --> 00:09:17.320 this and think beyond you're twenty three to twenty six 159 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:21.480 player roster that you might have it. Also, I don't 160 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:23.960 know about you, but it kind of revealed where we 161 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:27.679 truly have some weaknesses on this roster or in our 162 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:28.240 player pool. 163 00:09:29.960 --> 00:09:31.440 Oh for sure. I mean there. 164 00:09:31.519 --> 00:09:33.960 I mean, you know, once you're start going this is 165 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:38.000 anyone listening just this is an interesting exercise to do 166 00:09:38.600 --> 00:09:40.759 because we all think we know, oh, this is this 167 00:09:40.840 --> 00:09:43.360 is the I mean, they're definitely core players. But when 168 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:46.559 you start getting to that depth piece of it, that's 169 00:09:46.559 --> 00:09:48.559 where it really becomes a little bit Different's like, wow, 170 00:09:49.200 --> 00:09:50.519 why do you have this person? Why do you have 171 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:53.159 that person? So I think really it's a good exercise 172 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:55.320 for any fans do. It's tough because there's a lot 173 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:58.679 of depth there in some spots and not others, and then. 174 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:00.320 You get pulled, well why do you have this person? 175 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:01.679 Is like, well, who is she going to bring in? 176 00:10:01.840 --> 00:10:02.000 Right? 177 00:10:02.039 --> 00:10:04.559 And so that's really where sometimes I think. 178 00:10:07.440 --> 00:10:10.320 Kind of doing it yourself is going to allow you 179 00:10:10.360 --> 00:10:12.360 to kind of figure things out a little bit, because 180 00:10:14.480 --> 00:10:19.000 it's it's rich, not easy to really kind of figure 181 00:10:19.000 --> 00:10:19.759 it out a little bit. 182 00:10:20.440 --> 00:10:24.919 Yeah, it does push it to kind of really evaluate 183 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:26.720 the player pool because I think the other thing, and 184 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:31.200 spoiler alert, is some of the players that may have, 185 00:10:34.799 --> 00:10:41.919 you know, shined bright in January camp aren't really considered 186 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:44.200 right now, and maybe some that you maybe might have 187 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:46.879 shrugged off. When you look at the depth of the 188 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:49.759 position as a whole, you go, well, maybe they need 189 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:53.440 to be concluded because you hain got no one else 190 00:10:53.440 --> 00:10:56.039 above them. And that was kind of my struggle is like, ah, man, 191 00:10:56.039 --> 00:10:58.279 I really don't feel strongly about this player to put 192 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:01.120 them in this type of depth chart exercise, but at 193 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:04.600 the same time, like, well, kind of got to include 194 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:05.240 someone there. 195 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:08.720 Yeah, I think that's definitely the challenge when when we 196 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:12.200 look at this as a whole, is just really trying 197 00:11:12.200 --> 00:11:15.519 to figure out what's you know, what the need. 198 00:11:15.360 --> 00:11:17.480 Is, and we'll probably we'll come up with this. 199 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:20.519 But I think the the US does have some unique 200 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:25.000 players that with club and country are playing different positions. 201 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:29.840 And I think that's really an advantage kind of of 202 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:35.720 this pool right now, is that they have that flexibility 203 00:11:35.799 --> 00:11:41.200 to play multiple positions. So while I can't speak for you, 204 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:48.039 while mine has that a little bit, I think, you know, 205 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.960 you you've got players who can slot into other plays. 206 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:53.639 So just because you have someone in you know whatever 207 00:11:54.120 --> 00:11:57.759 right back, doesn't mean you know, you the next person 208 00:11:57.799 --> 00:11:59.600 in line would be the next person I would necessarily 209 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:03.840 play in that position. It's just the next person of yeah, 210 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:08.519 that's you know, because I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure 211 00:12:08.519 --> 00:12:10.879 you did this. It's only one player per position, right, 212 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:14.480 so I'm not I'm not putting like, uh tim weya 213 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:15.159 on the wing? 214 00:12:15.519 --> 00:12:17.519 Yeah, yea, yeah, same, I was. I was thinking what 215 00:12:17.600 --> 00:12:19.759 is their primary position? But there were a couple that 216 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:23.799 I definitely considered as like, well, you know, worst case scenario, 217 00:12:23.840 --> 00:12:26.399 they can also be called in at this type of position. 218 00:12:26.480 --> 00:12:28.200 But like I thought of them, like, no, this is 219 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:31.639 there here for this position. But to your point like 220 00:12:31.679 --> 00:12:38.919 Waya McKenny, you know, excuse me, McKenzie, McKenny and Moosa 221 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:41.360 could kind of play some you know, you can move 222 00:12:41.399 --> 00:12:44.320 them around, like McKenny could play right back, mackenzie could 223 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:46.799 play right back, Musa could play right back, Adams, you know, 224 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:48.559 there are tons of those types of players. But I'm 225 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:51.360 with you, like this was a trying to keep it 226 00:12:52.679 --> 00:12:56.440 per position. So with that said, let's let's score with goalkeepers. 227 00:12:56.480 --> 00:12:57.879 I think this is the place where we had a 228 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:00.559 lot of agreement. So I'm just gonna read off first three. 229 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:04.879 Sound good? Yeah, go ahead? Okay? Uh? 230 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:07.720 Number one, Matt Turner, number two, Patrick Schulte, number three, 231 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:10.240 Ethan Hornbath. Now I found this a little interesting that 232 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:12.679 we have Shulty as the number two, both of us. 233 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:19.039 I don't think that it matters though, Does that make sense? 234 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:20.080 Yeah? 235 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:23.600 So I have this order here, I think is to me, 236 00:13:23.679 --> 00:13:28.720 there's a there's an asterisk here because I don't think. 237 00:13:29.799 --> 00:13:33.720 That well. I guess what I. 238 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:37.960 Would prefer to see is your your primary number one, 239 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:40.759 which is Matt Turner, and then whoever whoever's in the 240 00:13:40.759 --> 00:13:43.360 best form for number two, and then your number three. 241 00:13:43.759 --> 00:13:46.879 And this is where I think is a conversation is 242 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:51.559 one of the young keepers, right, yeah, and so, and 243 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:54.679 that's up for debate obviously, because you know, everyone was 244 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.279 loving god Go Slanina, you know, a year ago, two 245 00:13:57.360 --> 00:13:59.559 years ago, and you know he's kind of fallen by 246 00:13:59.600 --> 00:14:03.279 the waist for you know, right now with his club. 247 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:06.399 So that is a little bit suspect. 248 00:14:06.639 --> 00:14:10.519 So I don't get too high on goalkeepers at eighteen, nineteen, 249 00:14:10.559 --> 00:14:13.679 twenty years old, because they have a long way to 250 00:14:13.799 --> 00:14:16.559 go before they're really going to be, you know, in 251 00:14:16.600 --> 00:14:18.960 their form to keep playing at high level. So I 252 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:23.200 think that's kind of any anyone on my list other 253 00:14:23.320 --> 00:14:25.799 than the kind of the young guys will kind of 254 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:29.000 fall into that, like that battle for the kind of 255 00:14:29.000 --> 00:14:33.360 the two spot. Honestly, if Matt Turner is healthy and 256 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:35.919 he's you know, he had another great performance today for 257 00:14:35.960 --> 00:14:39.240 a Crystal Palace, right and I think, you know, he 258 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:41.200 can do it, right, and so he's just got to 259 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:41.879 find that time. 260 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:47.879 The next three I'll give mine. I have I had 261 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:54.240 six that I named on this roster, Zach Stephan, Matt Frazing, 262 00:14:54.519 --> 00:14:58.000 and then I have god Goslonina. I included Stefan just 263 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:01.039 because this was a little bit of the do I 264 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:04.960 rate him as highly Not really, but I can't hide 265 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:08.840 away from the fact that he's getting called in by Buchettino, 266 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:12.120 the new coach. He obviously has experience playing at the 267 00:15:12.200 --> 00:15:15.960 national team level, and he is I mean maybe not 268 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:18.919 like currently currently, but he is playing week in and 269 00:15:18.960 --> 00:15:20.639 week out for his club when they do play, so 270 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:24.080 that that has an unfortunate reality with our goalkeeper pool 271 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:26.480 is sometimes it's just the dude who happens to be 272 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.759 playing is gonna get called in. I mean, I think 273 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:32.360 that was Sean Johnson's like saving grace for much of 274 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:35.240 his time during the twenty twenty two cycles, like well, hey, 275 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:38.799 I'm I just had training. I can get out here, 276 00:15:38.840 --> 00:15:41.600 and you know, I played a match last week. I'm good. 277 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:45.559 You have a slightly different one. I'll let you run 278 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:49.039 through your next couple and then. 279 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:51.919 Yeah, I have I have Matt Matt Freeze as well. 280 00:15:52.080 --> 00:15:54.399 But then I then I have a trio of the 281 00:15:54.440 --> 00:15:58.960 young group right coaching Salomna and Brady right. So to me, 282 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:05.080 I I just think we have again if you again, 283 00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.279 we say before I say it again, you know, if 284 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:10.440 the third keepers playing in a World Cup, you're probably 285 00:16:10.480 --> 00:16:16.080 not in a good position. But that's you know, I 286 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:17.919 don't know what Ponchino is gonna do in that manner. 287 00:16:18.080 --> 00:16:20.600 I don't know if he'll he'll make that that leap 288 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:22.919 with that, but I look at that, it's saying, hey, 289 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:25.799 to me, Brady is one and coaching right now or 290 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:28.840 playing Slownina. He's gonna have to work his way back in. 291 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:31.799 But I think it's kind of they're going to kind 292 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:35.200 of battle on their own for any possible spot. Coach 293 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:39.200 has been called in, you know, to the national team 294 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:43.440 last year, and Slownna. You know, he's had his moments. 295 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:49.600 He played in the Olympics, So I think, you know, 296 00:16:49.639 --> 00:16:52.799 I think, you know, hopefully we'll we'll kind of see 297 00:16:52.799 --> 00:16:54.440 a little bit of a battle there, you know. On 298 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:57.360 the Stephan point, I was on the fence about that 299 00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:00.679 and still am. Uh so I decided to Philia mop 300 00:17:00.759 --> 00:17:02.279 But I again, if you kind of see where the 301 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:05.119 winds are blown with Ponchatino, he's definitely, you know, in 302 00:17:05.200 --> 00:17:08.599 the conversation, I just worry about his health. I think 303 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:11.039 that's I think for me, that's always been the issues 304 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:14.079 with him, and he hasn't consistently been able to do 305 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:16.759 that ever since he came back to the MLS. He's 306 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:20.319 just he's a little bit slower in general, but you 307 00:17:20.359 --> 00:17:22.480 know he may fall into that role right, the third 308 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:26.039 role with a like Sean Johnson. He's he's got the experience. 309 00:17:26.440 --> 00:17:29.119 You can rely on him, you know if you need 310 00:17:29.160 --> 00:17:30.000 to so. 311 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:34.960 Well. And that's I think. The other thing is this is, 312 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:39.720 you know, as we're recording this February tenth, twenty twenty five, 313 00:17:40.720 --> 00:17:43.799 that could change in the next month, depending on especially 314 00:17:43.839 --> 00:17:49.240 when we're talking about these lower tiered goalkeeping slots. It's like, well, 315 00:17:49.519 --> 00:17:53.839 it turns out that Stephan starts to season terribly, then 316 00:17:53.920 --> 00:17:56.079 I have no problem putting, you know, Chris Brady, if 317 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:58.640 he starts well, putting him higher up the depth chart. 318 00:17:58.720 --> 00:18:00.839 So I'm with you there. I've I think, you know, 319 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:04.880 for example, like Cocain and Slownina, it does for Cocain especially, 320 00:18:04.880 --> 00:18:07.440 it's like, man, let's get you into our youth national 321 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:12.000 team pool for this particular you twenty World Cup cycle, 322 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.079 and hopefully that can also kind of kick start your 323 00:18:15.160 --> 00:18:20.079 career as a professional. So I like that, let's move 324 00:18:20.119 --> 00:18:24.960 to center backs, which again a lot of agreement. I 325 00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:32.960 don't know if our exact placement is the same. 326 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:34.240 So I have. 327 00:18:36.319 --> 00:18:44.160 Chris Richards, Mark McKenzie, Hameron, Carter Vickers, Miles Robinson, Austin 328 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:48.119 Trustee as my kind of five that I would like, 329 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:53.359 legit call into a tournament. You kind of have something 330 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:57.279 similarly of Chris Richards, Mark McKenzie, Cameron, Carter Vickers, Austin Trustee, 331 00:18:57.279 --> 00:19:01.319 and then you have Tim reim higher than I do, 332 00:19:01.440 --> 00:19:04.079 Miles Robinson. So I'll let you kind of explain your 333 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:04.880 reasoning there. 334 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:08.519 Yeah, I think that's just recent recency bias on that. 335 00:19:08.599 --> 00:19:11.880 For what we're seeing still with Ponchettino, I think it's early. 336 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:14.640 I think it's one of those things where someone's going 337 00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:18.119 to have to take that spot. In my opinion, maybe 338 00:19:18.160 --> 00:19:22.440 it's Miles Robinson or someone else, but I think someone's 339 00:19:22.440 --> 00:19:25.880 going to have to take the spot because he offers, 340 00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:29.599 I think the leadership that we all know and love 341 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:35.319 from Tim Reeen. He offers experience, but he's a liability 342 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:40.359 with his age and his you know, playing in the 343 00:19:40.480 --> 00:19:44.160 MLS it's you know, it's a slower game. Defensively, it's 344 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:48.359 a lot different. So I think that's where we'll see 345 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:54.079 how he kind of progresses or or declines here in 346 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:56.880 the next season and a half because that's what we'll 347 00:19:56.920 --> 00:19:59.839 probably see him before the World Cup and to see 348 00:19:59.839 --> 00:20:03.039 if he's is able to hold that fifth spot, because 349 00:20:03.039 --> 00:20:05.519 I think they'll have a twenty sixth player roster and 350 00:20:05.559 --> 00:20:08.240 I think he'll he would probably be the fifth, you know, 351 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:12.000 you know, center back. I don't think he's going to 352 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:13.880 be capable of starting, but maybe he has a role 353 00:20:13.880 --> 00:20:14.680 coming off the bench. 354 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:19.200 So then after that. 355 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:23.240 I I have Tim Riam literally directly after it for 356 00:20:23.359 --> 00:20:25.000 kind of the same reason of like he's on my 357 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:28.359 fifter player squad because if there's any sort of injury 358 00:20:28.359 --> 00:20:32.440 above him, I need him and the like I fully 359 00:20:32.480 --> 00:20:35.160 trust him to be able to be a competent player. 360 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:39.440 Yeah, I mean he's earned that. 361 00:20:40.519 --> 00:20:43.359 Everyone's tired of him, and I'm I'm I'm I'm not 362 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:45.079 tired of him, but I mean, just we just we 363 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:47.119 can just see our eyes. 364 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:53.400 Tell us a lot about where he is, and I 365 00:20:53.880 --> 00:20:54.359 just have to. 366 00:20:57.000 --> 00:21:01.079 My hope is that he could tendes to be pretty 367 00:21:01.160 --> 00:21:06.519 darn good for Charlotte to the point where like, like 368 00:21:06.759 --> 00:21:09.839 you know, I don't think we've seen that from for example, 369 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:14.480 Walker Zimmerman, who doesn't appear on either of our depth charts, 370 00:21:14.519 --> 00:21:17.599 mainly because he hasn't been at that level that he 371 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:21.480 was at the twenty twenty two World Cup. So for me, 372 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:23.319 I just hope Tim can kind of keep at a 373 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:25.599 solid level. I don't know why he you know what, 374 00:21:25.759 --> 00:21:27.799 in other than age and that way, it's like, well, 375 00:21:28.119 --> 00:21:29.480 we know he's there if we need. 376 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:34.359 Him, right, I mean, and this is a bad example 377 00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:37.440 because of where he's playing, but you know, you know, Zimmerman, 378 00:21:37.920 --> 00:21:39.880 you know, could. 379 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.119 Surprise us. All right. 380 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:46.440 Rim was a late entrant, right, and we talk about 381 00:21:46.559 --> 00:21:50.079 into that pool in that timing, right, it was in 382 00:21:50.160 --> 00:21:53.400 terms of that earning that starting position, he was kind 383 00:21:53.400 --> 00:21:55.759 of on the fringes of it. And then it's like, 384 00:21:56.079 --> 00:21:58.839 how can you not start this player in the World Cup? 385 00:21:59.200 --> 00:21:59.319 Right? 386 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:00.559 Because he was at such a. 387 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:03.359 High level and it was really a no brainer at 388 00:22:03.400 --> 00:22:06.039 the end of the day. And he did that kind 389 00:22:06.039 --> 00:22:08.319 of late in the cycle. And is there a player 390 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:13.279 of that age a Miles Robinson, a Walker's im Moven 391 00:22:13.519 --> 00:22:16.160 Matt Miasko, which is unlikely, but you know what I'm saying, 392 00:22:16.160 --> 00:22:19.279 a player that's just older at a center back position 393 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:23.680 that could come in and you know, fill and solidify 394 00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:26.279 that position because we just don't we don't have any 395 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:28.559 one right now that's doing that. There's a lot of 396 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:32.440 we have the names, but no one really has locked 397 00:22:32.440 --> 00:22:36.039 that position down. Chris Richards has his moments, Martin McKenzie 398 00:22:36.119 --> 00:22:37.720 the same thing. We just haven't seen enough of it. 399 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:40.359 And I think that's why it's going to be so 400 00:22:40.359 --> 00:22:43.400 important that this group, whoever it is, does play together 401 00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:46.039