Speaker 1: Boston's new radio AERL. Thank you, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: And you heard this gentleman about three or four minutes
Speaker 1: ago telling you about a compromised vehicle. I love it
Speaker 1: when he says that he has a job over at
Speaker 1: traffic telling you about the highways and the byways if
Speaker 1: they've been compromised. And during the day he drives a
Speaker 1: tour bus through Boston and he lets people know that
Speaker 1: over there, that's where this happened. Way over there, that's
Speaker 1: where that happened. And he will take tips. I know
Speaker 1: that was mentioned in the President's big beautiful Bill about tipping.
Speaker 1: Jack will take tips.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: To have a basket out right now while I'm on
Speaker 3: the radio right here, set them along.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know who would love to come by
Speaker 1: and leave it. But I'm not going to say a word.
Speaker 1: I am going to officially introduce Jack Hart. Whenever I
Speaker 1: have a holiday around a broadcast, I try to bring
Speaker 1: Jack on to add some historical flavor to the commentary.
Speaker 1: And tonight it's no different because we should have celebrated
Speaker 1: this day either two days ago or two weeks from now.
Speaker 1: And Jack, if you want to explain what I just
Speaker 1: said and why that is the case about either the
Speaker 1: second of July or a couple of weeks from now.
Speaker 1: To the people who are not up on their history.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, the fourth of July being into oh hello,
Speaker 3: by the way, it's jack hi. The fourth of July
Speaker 3: being the fourth of July. You know, it's a little
Speaker 3: bit on the r but prairie side, you know. The
Speaker 3: they they they finished the the Committee of five there
Speaker 3: finished writing the Declaration of Independence on uh really the
Speaker 3: the like the thirtieth of June, the first, and then
Speaker 3: it went through a couple of days of editing and things,
Speaker 3: and it was trying to sort of finished on the second,
Speaker 3: and everybody agreed on it on the second. And but
Speaker 3: but I guess every you know it it in those days,
Speaker 3: people were moving around on very slow vehicles, and there
Speaker 3: were there were no cell phones.
Speaker 2: There was you know, there were no.
Speaker 1: They didn't even have fax machines. I don't even have facts.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine that? You know?
Speaker 3: So the uh and you know, and broadcasting was standing
Speaker 3: on a roof and yelling, you know they and uh
Speaker 3: so so you know so it so it was it's
Speaker 3: the whole thing. Everybody agreed on the thing. Actually on
Speaker 3: July second. And in the reality of life, it's it's
Speaker 3: really even into September that all the signatures were were achieved.
Speaker 3: But everybody agree, everybody agreed on it. Within the everybody
Speaker 3: was pretty much in accordance with it, all fifty six
Speaker 3: signers within within the within the couple.
Speaker 2: Of weeks time. But you know, we pick a day.
Speaker 3: It's just like we talk about evacuation Day that on
Speaker 3: March seventeenth, the British, you know, left Boston. They left
Speaker 3: Boston over the course of a week or so. You know,
Speaker 3: you know, it too that long to move that many bodies.
Speaker 3: It did take that long to move that many bodies.
Speaker 3: And you know, so inas much as the fourth of
Speaker 3: July being the fourth of July, it's it's like pick
Speaker 3: a day, you know, it's you know, and so that's
Speaker 3: what we did. We picked July fourth, and it sounds nicer,
Speaker 3: I think, and on July fourth sounds nicer than July second,
Speaker 3: you know, happy July second, not as fun, you know,
Speaker 3: I agree, July fourth it's one syllable, July fourth, it's
Speaker 3: three syllables a July fourth. It's you know, and it's
Speaker 3: fourth is forward motion. Fourth is forward motion. So I
Speaker 3: think it all worked out for the best. May the
Speaker 3: fourth be with you. That's been there, I say it
Speaker 3: butchered since the Star Wars movie, exactly right, exactly right,
Speaker 3: so the uh so you know, at any rate, So
Speaker 3: that's why it's July fourth, and uh you know, let's
Speaker 3: you know, people talk about Christmas. If you know, if there,
Speaker 3: if there was actually an historical event that can actually
Speaker 3: be called Christmas, it was probably in August. But you know,
Speaker 3: sometimes it just works out better if you move things
Speaker 3: around a little.
Speaker 1: It's who does your pr That's exactly right.
Speaker 3: And you know they were doing as much pr and
Speaker 3: and and and story spinning, uh and so forth as
Speaker 3: as even modern day people. That was kind of Sam
Speaker 3: Adams's whole job was was sort of spinning, spinning a
Speaker 3: situation into something different.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: And I've got a question since you brought it up.
Speaker 1: It's it's off topic, right. No one has ever answered
Speaker 1: this question to my satisfaction. Why the heck is part
Speaker 1: of his face on a Sam Adams label?
Speaker 3: The the the picture of Sam Adams on that label
Speaker 3: is a composite.
Speaker 2: I think of several people.
Speaker 1: It looks like Paul.
Speaker 3: It looks a little bit like Paul Revere, but not
Speaker 3: exactly like Paul Revere, you know. I mean, there's the picture,
Speaker 3: the most famous picture of Paul Revere is the one
Speaker 3: where he's holding the sort of pewter mugg and he
Speaker 3: looks a little bit like Bob Hope, you know, the
Speaker 3: and so that's you know. But but Sam Adams is
Speaker 3: a is a composite and because Sam himself sam himself,
Speaker 3: you know, there's there's the statue of Samuel Adams in
Speaker 3: front of Fanuel Hall and and it has him as
Speaker 3: this sort of tall, robust, you know figure. And so
Speaker 3: he was. He was a brilliant man, but he was
Speaker 3: completely in his head. And he was belonged to a
Speaker 3: sort of a uh a neo Puritanical group that was
Speaker 3: not as exclusionary as the earlier Puritans. But he was
Speaker 3: strictly by the Bible, had no decoration, it was not
Speaker 3: appearance was not important to him. So he was kind
Speaker 3: of short and stout and messy with kind of a
Speaker 3: big red face.
Speaker 1: He really was. He really was.
Speaker 3: When they were going down to the Continental Congress, you know,
Speaker 3: the second Continental Congress, to put all this together, uh,
Speaker 3: he and he and John Hancock were going down together.
Speaker 3: They were very good friends. And but but they were
Speaker 3: going to ride down in John's cat, which would have
Speaker 3: been very nice, and.
Speaker 2: Uh, and but.
Speaker 3: John kind of took a look at Sam one day,
Speaker 3: and and and then Sam gets a knock at the
Speaker 3: door a couple of days later, and a guy comes
Speaker 3: in starts measuring the dickens out of his body, and
Speaker 3: somebody else comes and starts measuring his head. Somebody else
Speaker 3: comes and starts measuring his feet, And a couple of
Speaker 3: days later, a steamer trunk shows up with a whole
Speaker 3: with several suits of clothing for Sam, because John didn't
Speaker 3: want to be.
Speaker 2: Seen in public with him the way that he otherwise dressed.
Speaker 1: Well, I've got we're focusing on the fourth of July,
Speaker 1: and I know it's a little late, but there's still
Speaker 1: two hours, well an hour and forty eight minutes left
Speaker 1: to call it today, the fourth of July. And this
Speaker 1: story I know you know, and I'm setting you up
Speaker 1: you are, so you can like I did earlier talking
Speaker 1: about the second of July, I know you know the story,
Speaker 1: and I want you to share this story with the
Speaker 1: Besy night Side listeners. Now. Granted, I'm about to take
Speaker 1: a break. So I'm going to give you the break
Speaker 1: to compose yourself and tell the story about the two
Speaker 1: presidents who both died, if I'm not mistaken. July fourth,
Speaker 1: eighteen twenty six six. Yeah, I think you know the
Speaker 1: two presidents I'm speaking about. And one of them said
Speaker 1: they each knew the other was sick. I had ridden sick,
Speaker 1: and one that is so and so still alive because
Speaker 1: he wanted to outlive him. And that's the way these
Speaker 1: two were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it was it was something similar to that,
Speaker 3: and I will tell the exact quote.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we will come back. We will wait till
Speaker 1: we come back. If you want to call in six one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty, eight, eight,
Speaker 1: eight nine to nineteen thirty and Jack, we already have
Speaker 1: a caller on hold. Fantastic, But I want to do
Speaker 1: this story before I kind of wandered, and anyone who
Speaker 1: wants to join one call run hold. Do so. Time
Speaker 1: and temperature ten point fifteen seventy two degrees.
Speaker 3: You're on Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's
Speaker 3: news radio.
Speaker 1: Morgan here, I'm filling in for Dan. Dan. We'll be
Speaker 1: back on the fourteenth of July next week. Bradley. Bradley,
Speaker 1: Jay will be here Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I'll be here Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: and the following Monday, the fourteenth of July. Halfway through
Speaker 1: the month, Dan, we'll be back. Now. My guests between
Speaker 1: now and midnight will be Jack Hart Hi with an
Speaker 1: E at the end of his name, and Jack tell
Speaker 1: the story that we teased about, and then we'll take
Speaker 1: phone calls. The uh.
Speaker 3: Well, you talked about two presidents dying on the same day,
Speaker 3: the fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, and it
Speaker 3: was John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. They had been you know,
Speaker 3: they had an interesting relationship over the course of time.
Speaker 3: They were they were very close friends in the days
Speaker 3: leading up to the declaration of Independence and kind of
Speaker 3: became rivals, and that became rivals once they became presidents.
Speaker 3: By the time they the election of eighteen hundred, they
Speaker 3: had been well. They differed in philosophy as to whether
Speaker 3: John Adams was very much for centralized government. He wanted
Speaker 3: a big sort of federal government, whereas Jefferson was more
Speaker 3: interested in sort of smaller state run government, you know,
Speaker 3: sort of decentralized power. So that was a big drift
Speaker 3: between them. But also I think they had a little
Speaker 3: bit of, you know, some ego stuff going on. Jefferson
Speaker 3: was a number of years younger, seven or eight years
Speaker 3: younger than Adams, but they had, you know, they had
Speaker 3: a basic rivalry in general. But then after they had
Speaker 3: both been president for a while and by the time
Speaker 3: they were both in their well by the time Jefferson
Speaker 3: was in his late sixties and maybe Adams was in
Speaker 3: his mid seventies or so, they finally made up again degree,
Speaker 3: you know, and I think they kept up a correspondence,
Speaker 3: but both were sick at the same time.
Speaker 2: They both knew each other was sick.
Speaker 3: And what it was was that and Jefferson had actually
Speaker 3: died earlier in the day and and his was his
Speaker 3: last words were, no doctor, I think that will be enough,
Speaker 3: you know, or you know, however he would have tone.
Speaker 3: So but of course there was no way to get
Speaker 3: word to John Adams by you know, quickly enough. So
Speaker 3: several hours later, and so Jefferson was about eighty three
Speaker 3: and Adams was just about ninety, I think, and he
Speaker 3: was dying. He and several hours later he actually died.
Speaker 3: What he said was Jefferson lives and thinking that his
Speaker 3: you know, sort of frenem me as he's been they've
Speaker 3: also been got a good word, were thinking that he
Speaker 3: would still at least carry on the memory of that time.
Speaker 3: There was some of the last of that era you know,
Speaker 3: of course by that time. So yeah, those are the
Speaker 3: two who Now, those are the two who they did
Speaker 3: die on the same day. And it's you know, not
Speaker 3: you know, it's it's interesting because in many instances, like
Speaker 3: for instance, in South Boston and the old one, when
Speaker 3: South Boston was still largely an Irish neighborhood and things,
Speaker 3: oftentimes there would be a spike in deaths after, you know,
Speaker 3: a few days after Saint Patrick's Day or another community's
Speaker 3: different religious communities and things, a spike after one of
Speaker 3: the big holidays, after Easter or you know, you know,
Speaker 3: so it's it's almost as if perhaps they they clung
Speaker 3: on to, you know, just to get to that fiftieth
Speaker 3: anniversary mark and you know, and then finally kicked it.
Speaker 1: You know, Well now that we've I told people you're
Speaker 1: here for history. Yeah, and that's just one of many
Speaker 1: historical references that go through the July fourth holiday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we here in America celebrate let me take the call.
Speaker 1: Who was the first to call from Groveland, Florence Lawrence,
Speaker 1: Hello Florence.
Speaker 4: Hello Florence, good evening, Happy fourth Morgan and Nancy, thank
Speaker 4: you and happy.
Speaker 2: For jacky fourth of July to Florence.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And since you're talking about history, I think I
Speaker 4: might have already told you I have on my father's
Speaker 4: side and this is back in the eighteen hundreds in
Speaker 4: my ancestry. Plus I heard about it in the family
Speaker 4: that we are related to Franklin Pierce, who was the
Speaker 4: fourteenth president. I mentioned it on Danbray so.
Speaker 1: Before.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Dan had somebody call in that wanted to
Speaker 4: get in touch with me and was going to call back.
Speaker 4: And then the person didn't call back, and Dan let
Speaker 4: me know and he believed it might have been someone related. Okay, okay,
Speaker 4: And yeah, so something else I wanted to mention. You know, ships,
Speaker 4: the tall ships, the beautiful ships, that's what I love. Okay,
Speaker 4: I have a love for the old ships, sailing ships.
Speaker 4: And I was gonna say, and my ancestry, I have
Speaker 4: my great great grandfather, second great grandfather. I found out.
Speaker 4: I never knew why I loved the ships so much,
Speaker 4: but my second great grandfather was a sea captain from
Speaker 4: Nova Scotia, and and that kind of blooming away because
Speaker 4: I said to the person doing you know, reading my
Speaker 4: ancestry infro to me, wow, you know, evidently that might
Speaker 4: be where my love of the ships came from. You know, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's the possibility. Yeah, I wanted to see what you
Speaker 4: thought of that, Jack.
Speaker 3: I think that's entirely I think that's entirely possible. I
Speaker 3: think that we you know, we we are influenced by
Speaker 3: the things that have come down to us, you know.
Speaker 4: Through history, well, the family, the genes in our family,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, yeah, And have you live checked that
Speaker 4: out yourself? Check history?
Speaker 1: I have not.
Speaker 3: I have not checked out too deeply. One of my brothers,
Speaker 3: my brother, my only brother. I have the four sisters
Speaker 3: and a brother. But so my brother has done a
Speaker 3: little bit of checking on it, and a couple of
Speaker 3: cousins have over the course of time. And you know, mostly,
Speaker 3: you know, most of my relatives coming over here were
Speaker 3: you know, scallow wags, uh and so forth, you know,
Speaker 3: coming in. So you know, that's I guess that's why
Speaker 3: that's that's what happened to me.
Speaker 4: But you know, so did any Yeah, did any come
Speaker 4: from what? Perhaps Ireland?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they they they they all they were all
Speaker 3: from Ireland. Yeah, three of them came over from Three
Speaker 3: of my grandparents came over directly from Ireland and my grandmother.
Speaker 2: Okay, her father.
Speaker 1: Got out of.
Speaker 3: Ireland somehow or another through Scotland. Were not exactly sure why,
Speaker 3: but I ended up in Prince Edwin Island and my
Speaker 3: grandmother grew up, as you know, growing potatoes up in Pei.
Speaker 2: And came in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it's fabulous when you go checking and you're
Speaker 4: astonished by what you find out, it's amazing, just amazing, imagine. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I loved it. And the person one to keep going said, though,
Speaker 4: we can go back now to the seventeen hundreds, and
Speaker 4: I said, wait a minute. I got to try and
Speaker 4: you know, get myself acclimated to what I've very heard. Sure,
Speaker 4: you know, think about it and wow, yeah you know.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it's you know, it's it's and it's all
Speaker 4: very real. You know when you've heard about it, it's
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a true fact. Absolutely did yell, They're
Speaker 4: in our history, you know, absolutely.
Speaker 3: It all comes down to you and it all Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's these these where we all came from somewhere and
Speaker 3: they were all real people who you know, our ancestors
Speaker 3: were all real people, whether they were fascinating people, whether
Speaker 3: it was you know, the King of England or or
Speaker 3: you know, or a ditch digger.
Speaker 1: Right now, Florence than Florence. I hate to do it,
Speaker 1: but I've got a quick news hit to take, so
Speaker 1: I have to wave goodbye.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I know.
Speaker 1: Thank you for being the first call. I was a
Speaker 1: pleasure Forlorence.
Speaker 4: Yes, and thank you for letting me know that Jack
Speaker 4: would be on.
Speaker 1: Thank you, no, no problem. Right now you're getting and
Speaker 1: when we come back, Jack, I'm going to tell you
Speaker 1: a little bit about my grandfather because he had an
Speaker 1: unusual job in his day. We're talking the nineteen twenties,
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you about that after these messages and
Speaker 1: news Here on Nightside time and temperature ten thirty it's
Speaker 1: going down sixty nine degrees. It's night Side with Dan
Speaker 1: Ray on Boston's news radio. I stepped on his line.
Speaker 1: Welcome back. Jack cart and I are just reminiscing about
Speaker 1: Fourth of July stories and if you missed us talking
Speaker 1: about presidents who died on the same day, look it up.
Speaker 1: July fourth, eighteen twenty six might surprise you if you
Speaker 1: hadn't already heard the story. But now you and I
Speaker 1: Jack are going to San Francisco and speak to David. David,
Speaker 1: Happy fourth of July.
Speaker 5: Right, Thank you, Morgan, send to you and send to
Speaker 5: all your listeners as total Americans. And before I go,
Speaker 5: I got a question for you, anyhow. First I want
Speaker 5: to say hello to Morgan White Junior, and Jack Hart
Speaker 5: and Nancy and uh uh Gregg and uh Tony and
Speaker 5: Ohio and Glenn and uh right, and anyhow, what I
Speaker 5: do I want to say was, uh, you know Abigail
Speaker 5: Adams was married to John Adams, and uh yes, and
Speaker 5: uh he was our first John was our first vice
Speaker 5: president and our second president. That made Abagail Adams our
Speaker 5: first second lady and our second first lady.
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone ever thought of that.
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it's a little poetry there, and let me
Speaker 5: throw it at the adjective the third in Okay, Okay, John,
Speaker 5: John and I have a Yeah, we're third cousins.
Speaker 1: I have heard that.
Speaker 5: I have read that. Well, that's part of history. And
Speaker 5: and then this is such a great show. And Morgan,
Speaker 5: next week you have an author to Tonuda. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 5: she's she was one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: That's tomorrow, not next week, that's tomorrow, tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Excuse me. Yeah, she was one of my favorites, and
Speaker 5: I kind of had a crush on her for a
Speaker 5: couple of years. But she was just a great comedian
Speaker 5: and I like the way she put men in her place.
Speaker 1: So I was, uh, should be that's going to be
Speaker 1: the first hour tomorrow, Judy Juda Okay, no, no, not Judy,
Speaker 1: she's fast on. I was thinking again, but that discussion
Speaker 1: will be at nine o'clock and tomorrow is my last
Speaker 1: nine o'clock hour.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, on the twelfth.
Speaker 1: And until further notice, I'll start at ten and end
Speaker 1: at twelve.
Speaker 5: Sony, I'm more than you want that question.
Speaker 1: Let's hear it.
Speaker 5: Well, you saw the first Godfather movie, right, Okay? Remember
Speaker 5: the very first scene in the movie where the Godfather
Speaker 5: was playing with a kitty cat? Yes, what was the
Speaker 5: cat's name?
Speaker 1: Brando?
Speaker 5: Exactly, very good man.
Speaker 1: I mentioned that last night when I was on with Joyce.
Speaker 5: I did hear you last night, but I, uh yeah,
Speaker 5: I found the cat in the parking lot of the
Speaker 5: studio and the director Coppola decided to put it in
Speaker 5: the movie. So but it throve the sound man crazy
Speaker 5: because it was purring so much. And and uh, that's
Speaker 5: what And I really can't wait to uh to listen
Speaker 5: and talk with Bradley Jay on Monday.
Speaker 1: Well you have a good time. He's he's back in
Speaker 1: the fold.
Speaker 5: Yes. Uh. His guest is.
Speaker 1: Peter, oh, Peter, yeah, yes, yeah.
Speaker 5: What was He was an amazing performer. He's all over
Speaker 5: the stage. And somebody did a study on him how
Speaker 5: much he traveled on stage and they said, as it's
Speaker 5: like twenty five miles on one show. Yeah, well, I
Speaker 5: don't know how they figure that out.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I don't know if that's accurate.
Speaker 1: It might have been twenty five miles a month, or
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 5: See it was twenty five miles a show. Yeah, he
Speaker 5: was all over the place all the time.
Speaker 1: I reserve agreeing with that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I want to ask you, yeah, because that's
Speaker 5: like a that's like a marathon. Yes, it is twenty
Speaker 5: six point two, right.
Speaker 1: But well, you know a mile is five hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty feet. Yeah, you multiply that times twenty five. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of in one one two hour show. That's
Speaker 1: a lot of moving around.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Do you know that he was married to Say
Speaker 5: don't know why?
Speaker 1: Yes, I did.
Speaker 5: Yep, they separated in nineteen seventy nine. I mean, thank
Speaker 5: you so much for taking my call on you too, Jack,
Speaker 5: very well. I just wanted to throw in maya two
Speaker 5: cents worth for the holiday.
Speaker 1: You're very welcome. David.
Speaker 5: I'll probably call you tomorrow light.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and tomorrow is a different show, so you're allowed
Speaker 1: to call back.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sure enough. Okay, buddy, God bless shaw.
Speaker 1: God bless you too, David.
Speaker 5: Bye bye, Thank you boy.
Speaker 1: All right, anyone else you want to share some history
Speaker 1: you know about the fourth of July in any way,
Speaker 1: shape or form, give us a call six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 1: ten thirty or eight eight eight nine to nineteen thirty
Speaker 1: and Jack, I got about four minutes before I have
Speaker 1: to take another break. Do you have another tidbit to share?
Speaker 3: Let's see, tidbits just went out of my head there
Speaker 3: thinking about Fay Dunaway and Peter Wolf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were big items. I think they lived over
Speaker 1: in you know, the Potential Center. It's big tall building,
Speaker 1: the Prudential Building. There are a couple of apartment complexes
Speaker 1: over there, and they lived in one of those apartment complexes.
Speaker 1: And every now and then you'd see a photo of
Speaker 1: the two of them on the heralds not necessarily the globe,
Speaker 1: but the Herald would show a photo of them. They
Speaker 1: would they would yep, yep, all right. So I have
Speaker 1: another July fourth story, speaking of the potential. A lot
Speaker 1: of people used to go before after feed we passed on.
Speaker 1: The concert on the Esplanade wasn't super duper popular, and
Speaker 1: a lot of people would go up to the skywalk
Speaker 1: and bring binoculars or telescope and check out the fireworks.
Speaker 1: But they had to stop it because too many people
Speaker 1: were doing that. Yeah, do you recall the hub ub
Speaker 1: no pun intended over that happening?
Speaker 3: I do, I do the and it was it was
Speaker 3: just I do. It was, But then all things kind
Speaker 3: of change. I think it was in nineteen seventy six,
Speaker 3: I think it was, and that's when Ugar kind of
Speaker 3: took over. Yes, the production I had some and you know,
Speaker 3: someone I was just communicating with somebody who was up
Speaker 3: on the Prudential Tower in those days as well, and
Speaker 3: you know, and talked about that because that's where we
Speaker 3: used to do traffic reports.
Speaker 1: Frump there right.
Speaker 3: But back in the nineteen eighties I worked at City Hall.
Speaker 3: I worked in one of the Mayor's offices, and there
Speaker 3: was a there were two fireworks in nineteen two sets
Speaker 3: of fireworks in nineteen eighty three. One was the typical
Speaker 3: one of the fourth over the over the Charles River,
Speaker 3: but the other one was on the second over Boston Harbor,
Speaker 3: and there was a there was a photographer coming in
Speaker 3: to do some tourism photographs, photography and so the and
Speaker 3: I was a driver in one of the mayor's one
Speaker 3: of the mayor's offices, but they needed a security person
Speaker 3: up there. So somebody in the communications office knew that
Speaker 3: I liked photography and arranged it so I could be
Speaker 3: the security person up there. And this photographer taught me
Speaker 3: a few things about photographing fireworks. So on the second
Speaker 3: of July I was up on the roof of City
Speaker 3: Hall with a Myke camera clamped to a lightning lot
Speaker 3: of all things well, I got not only great pictures
Speaker 3: of the fireworks, but looking back many years later, I've
Speaker 3: also got great pictures of the Central Artery and the
Speaker 3: old North Church and a number of other things Boston
Speaker 3: and nineteen eighty three from the roof of City Hall
Speaker 3: and kind of a fascinating group of photographs.
Speaker 1: And in a similar story, there were a couple of
Speaker 1: years and I forget how I heard about it, but
Speaker 1: I went over to the Museum of Science and they normally,
Speaker 1: you know, they're hours and around seven thirty eight o'clock. Yep,
Speaker 1: So the parking lot wasn't crowded. And the two years
Speaker 1: I went up there, perfect view, perfect circumstance. But then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, somebody told somebody, who told somebody,
Speaker 1: who told somebody, and you had a traffic jam up there. Ye, people,
Speaker 1: and you and I when we were at eleven seventy
Speaker 1: Soldi's Field Road. The cafeteria up there had a deck
Speaker 1: and that was a good place to watch the fireworks,
Speaker 1: and I never did that. I did that on a
Speaker 1: couple of occasions, and I was on the air for
Speaker 1: one of them. Yeah, but you know, I run up
Speaker 1: there or take the elevator one floor and watched during
Speaker 1: a newscast and had to run back down six minutes later.
Speaker 1: But it was nice to see it from that viewpoint.
Speaker 1: And now I'm at the time to take a break
Speaker 1: So if you're out there you have a story you
Speaker 1: want to share about the Fourth of July around or
Speaker 1: through a political individual or your own person observations six one, seven, two, five, four,
Speaker 1: ten thirty or eight eight, eight, nine, two, nine, ten thirty,
Speaker 1: give us a call. Please time at temperature ten forty
Speaker 1: five sixty nine degrees.
Speaker 3: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ in Boston's
Speaker 3: news radio.
Speaker 1: Dan Ray's off. He'll be back on the fourteenth of July,
Speaker 1: which means he's off all next week. If you haven't
Speaker 1: heard the news, Bradley Jay is back within the folds
Speaker 1: of WBZ broadcast Thursday. He'll be here filling in for
Speaker 1: Nightside on Monday and Tuesday, on Wednesday as well, I
Speaker 1: Morgan Mike Junior will be here next Thursday and Friday,
Speaker 1: and as well my own show, The Morgan Show on
Speaker 1: Saturday nights. And up for another roughly hour and ten minutes,
Speaker 1: Jack Hartndeyer trying to keep you interested in facts about
Speaker 1: the Fourth of July, through politics, through just everyday circumstances.
Speaker 1: And I know people listening right now are leaving the
Speaker 1: esunaut very very slowly. How was it tonight you're listening
Speaker 1: on the radio, give us a call, give us your
Speaker 1: opinion of how the evening's entertainment went. Did you go
Speaker 1: ooh and I every time there was a burst of
Speaker 1: a firework over your head. And I know some people
Speaker 1: listening right now are Nightside fans, and Jack, I don't
Speaker 1: think you heard me when I first got on the
Speaker 1: air at eight seven, eighth eight whatever, and I said,
Speaker 1: I want all the people listening right now tonight Side
Speaker 1: on the counter three to yell out Nightside. And I'm
Speaker 1: wondering how many people actually did. So you knew you
Speaker 1: weren't alone out there among of one hundred thousand people. Sure. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I have a story if you don't have another
Speaker 1: one handy that might kill about three or four minutes.
Speaker 3: If you want, I've got I've got plenty of stuff.
Speaker 3: But I know you wanted to talk about one of
Speaker 3: your relatives, about your grandfather.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, thank you for reminding me. My grandfather worked
Speaker 1: on the ocean liner the SS United States. He was
Speaker 1: a steward and he divorced my grandmother when my mother
Speaker 1: and my aunt were like eight, nine, ten years old.
Speaker 1: And he would bring home periodically and little things from
Speaker 1: the ship like silverware, or a towel or whatever, because
Speaker 1: if you're a steward, you have access to those things.
Speaker 1: Not a lot, but just to to share with his family. Sure,
Speaker 1: and it reminded me of a story. My grandmother had it.
Speaker 1: And I've told this story in the year before she
Speaker 1: had it. What is it that ability beyond normal everyday circumstances,
Speaker 1: A second sight? Oh, kind of an eerie thing. I see.
Speaker 1: She definitely had it, and she impressed me a lot
Speaker 1: of times with what she could do that involved me
Speaker 1: and telling me what I did, what I did that.
Speaker 2: Night, I see. But she had eyes on the back
Speaker 2: of her head.
Speaker 1: Yes, I see. And he told her I'll be getting
Speaker 1: in Thursday. As an example, he got in Wednesday. My
Speaker 1: grandmother just had a feeling. He's in Boston now, and
Speaker 1: I forget what they call it now. It used to
Speaker 1: be the National Theater in between Stremont Street crossing Clarington
Speaker 1: and Berkeley. In that block that was a National Theater.
Speaker 1: It's some sort of hoopy do thing now. But anyway,
Speaker 1: she walked. They lived on Northampton Street, Northampton and Mass
Speaker 1: Avenue and then West Springfield, all about another seven blocks
Speaker 1: to the theater. She didn't know she just had a feeling.
Speaker 1: She walked those seventy eight nine blocks get to the
Speaker 1: ticket taker. Ticket taker said that'll be fifty cents or
Speaker 1: whatever it was in that era. And my grandmother said,
Speaker 1: I'm just here to get my husband. And the ticket
Speaker 1: taker must have seen the situation in the past. Lady,
Speaker 1: go right ahead. She goes in, goes up to the balcony.
Speaker 1: In those days, they let you sit in the balcony,
Speaker 1: went right to the seat where he was. Did not know,
Speaker 1: had no idea he'd be sitting in the fifth row
Speaker 1: of five seats in Jimmy, that was his name. Time
Speaker 1: to come home. He was there with another woman, and
Speaker 1: I mean, what could he do? He was bagged. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he got up and walked out with my grandmother. Wow,
Speaker 1: what happened to and and I guess the young lady
Speaker 1: watched the second film? But he said the popcord? Who
Speaker 1: told you I was here? And she said, no one.
Speaker 1: And he just shook his head because he knew my
Speaker 1: grandmother had that sixth sense.
Speaker 2: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1: And that and that is a true story because my
Speaker 1: mother verified it. Yeah that happened. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 3: I think that people have certain connections to each other.
Speaker 3: And yeah, and they and the and they just have
Speaker 3: a have a knowledge and a connection and and just
Speaker 3: have an idea as to what's going on with somebody remotely.
Speaker 3: Think it's just I think that's how how people end
Speaker 3: up and you know, connected to each other because they
Speaker 3: have that sort of feeling.
Speaker 1: Well, I've never had it with anyone else, that the
Speaker 1: power that my grandmother displayed. And I'll tell you a
Speaker 1: real quick story since we only have about a minute
Speaker 1: and a half before I have to take a hoose break,
Speaker 1: There'll be a perfect amount of time for this. The
Speaker 1: night my grandmother passed away in our home, we had
Speaker 1: made the living room her bedroom, I see, so she
Speaker 1: wouldn't have to go upstairs anymore. Yeah, she's passed away.
Speaker 1: We call the police and the ambulance people, and we
Speaker 1: have a front door and a screen door, and we
Speaker 1: let the door, oh stay open, so the police could
Speaker 1: come and go and the ambulance people could come and go.
Speaker 1: We had a burglar alarm on the door, and the
Speaker 1: burglar alarm kept beeping because the door is open. And Jack,
Speaker 1: I'm the witness this actually happened. The police officer was
Speaker 1: trying to shut the alarm off because it was an
Speaker 1: annoying noise. He said, what's the code. I gave the code.
Speaker 1: He pushed the number in didn't turn off the alarm.
Speaker 1: They tried everything, including pulling the wires.
Speaker 2: No kidna, it wouldn't shut it off.
Speaker 1: And eventually it just went and faded out. No, kidd
Speaker 1: and I just knew that was my grandmother saying goodbye. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I just knew. There's no way anybody these years later
Speaker 1: that was nineteen ninety six or seven. You can't convince
Speaker 1: me that wasn't the case.
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely not.
Speaker 3: No, that uh yeah, that that was definitely your That
Speaker 3: was definitely if your grandmother had that kind of ability
Speaker 3: to hear and see things, then she could get that
Speaker 3: thing to ring.
Speaker 1: All right, people, we've got another hour to go. I've
Speaker 1: got some more Fourth of July stories. I hope you
Speaker 1: do too. Give me a call, Give Jack a call.
Speaker 1: We're here waiting six one, seven, two, five, four ten
Speaker 1: thirty or eight eight, eight nine, two nine ten thirty.
Speaker 1: Time and temperature here on night side ten fifty eight
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