WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.800 Sorry, no skating tonight. 2 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:06.280 What to come here on Saturday night to clean the 3 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:07.679 ice losers. 4 00:00:07.719 --> 00:00:11.080 Actually it's called curling. Players slid the heavy stones towards 5 00:00:11.119 --> 00:00:13.800 the circle or house as teammates controlled the direction and 6 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:15.800 speed of the stone by sweeping in front of it 7 00:00:15.880 --> 00:00:17.879 with a special room march. 8 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:19.839 It's perfect for both of us. 9 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:22.160 It's got balling for me and sweeping for you. 10 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:24.600 Four Finger Discounted. 11 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:42.719 Welcome to four Finger Discount, where this week we hit 12 00:00:42.799 --> 00:00:45.719 the review Boy Mets Curl, which is kind of relevant 13 00:00:45.719 --> 00:00:48.000 now because we just had the Winter Olympics and here 14 00:00:48.079 --> 00:00:50.479 the Simpsons are on their way to Vancouver to apparently 15 00:00:50.560 --> 00:00:52.719 represent Team USA in curling. 16 00:00:52.759 --> 00:00:54.640 I'm Dando and I'm Guy, and I was about to 17 00:00:54.640 --> 00:00:58.200 say this episode is now irrelevant because the Winter Olympics 18 00:00:58.200 --> 00:00:59.520 have been over for some time. 19 00:00:59.719 --> 00:01:02.640 But were they ever relevant? Shout out to all of 20 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:03.880 our Winter Olympians out there. 21 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:07.319 Australia actually did quite well. Australia above its weight in 22 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:09.439 the Winter Olympics. Given that we are not regarded as 23 00:01:09.519 --> 00:01:11.280 a particularly wintery country. 24 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:14.200 We were all surprised when on the news vers they 25 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:17.159 were going we we did well. 26 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:19.040 We actually did well. 27 00:01:18.599 --> 00:01:21.239 That was what we want something we did. Well, yeah, 28 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:23.959 who was the guy that won that race where everyone 29 00:01:24.000 --> 00:01:26.640 else fell over? And he's Steve somewere Steve, I want to. 30 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:27.519 Say, Steve Bradbury. 31 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:30.040 That's the one. Yeah, what an absolute champion. 32 00:01:32.040 --> 00:01:36.799 But it's funny watching the televised Australian coverage of the 33 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:40.079 of the Winter Olympics, it was like, and here's Steve Bradrey. 34 00:01:40.680 --> 00:01:43.120 Every four years they go and visit this guy or 35 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:44.959 I think lives up northern Queensland. I think he owns 36 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:48.079 are put up in Queensland, the least wintery place in Australia, 37 00:01:48.079 --> 00:01:50.519 which is the least wintery place in the world. Well 38 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:52.840 not necessarily, but you know what I mean. And yeah, 39 00:01:52.840 --> 00:01:54.760 he's got himself a new head of hair and all 40 00:01:54.760 --> 00:01:57.239 this kind of stuff, and he's like speaking like a 41 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:00.480 real authority. On the Winter Olympics, there was very much 42 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:02.840 a thing was like he was kind of regarded as 43 00:02:02.840 --> 00:02:05.359 a lucky guy for everyone else in his race, kind 44 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:10.680 of falling over. This speed skating event, goes through and 45 00:02:10.680 --> 00:02:11.599 wins a gold medals. 46 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:14.080 He's not even like he doesn't feel bad about it either, 47 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:18.120 But why should he He should not, because he is 48 00:02:18.159 --> 00:02:18.360 the thing. 49 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:21.680 He's the thing that kept coming up both him and 50 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:26.199 all his other fellow athletes were saying, what you're not 51 00:02:26.360 --> 00:02:29.240 seeing is the hours and hours and hours and years 52 00:02:29.240 --> 00:02:32.680 and weeks and months of effort that went into his 53 00:02:32.719 --> 00:02:34.719 training and his preparation and all that kind of stuff 54 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:36.599 and really just came down to, you know, a bunch 55 00:02:36.599 --> 00:02:38.560 of people fall out. The other thing was, and this 56 00:02:38.759 --> 00:02:41.199 really sort of weirded me out about the Winter Olympics, 57 00:02:41.199 --> 00:02:42.879 but certainly when it came to speed skating and things 58 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:45.879 like that, with people falling over as well, there's a 59 00:02:45.960 --> 00:02:50.520 chance that you will either nick yourself with your blades 60 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:53.120 or someone else. I mean, there was some guy who 61 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:55.080 actually really got his throat. 62 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:58.479 Cut by skate have it in hockey a guy lost 63 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:00.439 his life a couple of years ago, got slice on 64 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:02.479 the neck, I believe. Yeah, it's scary. 65 00:03:02.560 --> 00:03:05.159 It looked pretty naily, yeah, I must admit. I mean 66 00:03:05.199 --> 00:03:08.719 I'm not a huge Olympics guy in general, but I 67 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:10.840 kind of enjoyed watching these Winter Olympics. I mean, the 68 00:03:11.159 --> 00:03:13.599 sports are really sort of entertaining and fun. I saw 69 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:17.360 none of them. Yeah, you know, doing the moguls, you 70 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:19.919 gotta do a little flip in there as well, and. 71 00:03:20.120 --> 00:03:22.080 I'm with it. I always get really pumped for the 72 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:24.879 actual Olympics as well the Summer Olympics, and then they're 73 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:26.439 on and I just don't seem to watch as much 74 00:03:26.439 --> 00:03:29.080 as I think I'm going to, because it's like you 75 00:03:29.199 --> 00:03:32.080 watch any sport whenever you want live and I'm like, yeah, 76 00:03:32.240 --> 00:03:36.319 where's the Simpsons marathon? That's what That's what the Olympics 77 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:38.560 meant for kids. I mean the Fox that were like, well, 78 00:03:38.599 --> 00:03:40.199 no one's gonna be watching anything but the Olympics. Let's 79 00:03:40.199 --> 00:03:40.919 just spike the Simpsons. 80 00:03:40.960 --> 00:03:43.280 So this particular episode sort of was the best of 81 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:45.879 all worlds for you, and it was like, Okay, we 82 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:48.919 get that Winter Olympics feeling, but also Simpsons. 83 00:03:48.960 --> 00:03:51.759 I remember. It's funny. I couldn't remember the name Steve Bradby, 84 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:53.120 but as soon as you said it, I remember. I 85 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:55.039 think it was like year eight when it happened for me. 86 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:57.240 I was in year eight. I remember we made a song, 87 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:04.240 wouldn't it be nice to be Steve watching everybody fall over? 88 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:07.120 More power to him? He's got that gold. 89 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:11.120 Yes, yes, indeed, apparently so margin Homer are good enough 90 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:13.719 to represent America in Curly in this episode. I'm watching 91 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:16.439 this going, I'm getting D two vibes My Ducks two 92 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:18.399 because I watched this recently with the kids, and I 93 00:04:18.480 --> 00:04:20.879 love the My Ducks movies. No, nostalgia plays a big 94 00:04:20.920 --> 00:04:23.879 role in that. But I watched his going this bunch 95 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:30.000 of riff raff representing team USA. How why they won 96 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:32.120 a district league and now they're representing the country. 97 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:34.680 What happens in D two? They've actually got sort of 98 00:04:34.680 --> 00:04:35.519 bumped up a notch too. 99 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:37.879 Yeah, they've gone from District five the money Ducks. They've 100 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:40.199 got the changes off to the Ducks and like, you 101 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:42.439 guys are good, we like your story. You can represent 102 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:44.959 Team USA at the Summer Olympics whatever it is that 103 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:45.560 junior summer. 104 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:48.879 Is it revealed any stage throughout D two because I 105 00:04:48.879 --> 00:04:53.560 have not watched it, Okay, you should then the death 106 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:58.680 Strewn I watched it. I go, this is absolute ludicrous. 107 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:03.319 But at any stage is there some cynical person going, hey, 108 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:06.079 you guys are really that good. But we liked your 109 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:08.639 story and we knew we could sell it. Oh and that, 110 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:11.000 but that would then give the mry Ducks the motivation. 111 00:05:11.240 --> 00:05:13.279 Well we'll show them and actually did really well. 112 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.560 No, they just get really ahead of themselves because they 113 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:18.639 can beat all the other countries, and then they start losing. 114 00:05:18.639 --> 00:05:22.079 The coach Bombay starts having a love affair with the 115 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:25.879 co coach of the Iceland team, so that in the 116 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:27.680 first one it was the Hawks, they were all black, 117 00:05:27.720 --> 00:05:29.959 and then then this one it's it's the Iceland team 118 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:32.279 and it's a guy. None of them are actually from Iceland, 119 00:05:32.279 --> 00:05:33.959 and they're putting on funny accents. I think, actually, I 120 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.519 think the female is an Icelandic actress, but everyone else 121 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:40.920 is just an American together, mate, your eyes on the prize. 122 00:05:41.399 --> 00:05:44.319 He gets ahead of himself. He's like, I'm a success 123 00:05:44.360 --> 00:05:46.879 financially now, and he's more interested in the perks of 124 00:05:46.879 --> 00:05:48.680 being famous as opposed to coaching the team. 125 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:49.959 Oh, he lost he lost sight. 126 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:51.720 He lost sight of what's what it means to be 127 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:52.439 coach Bombay. 128 00:05:52.439 --> 00:05:54.079 But I guess if he found his way back by 129 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:54.800 the end, but he does. 130 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.759 Indeed, Yes, it was two and that's I think. When 131 00:05:57.800 --> 00:05:59.920 did the Animaheim Ducks become the Anaheim d. 132 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:05.199 You're asking because usually I was google that they because 133 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:06.839 they called Team USA in this movie. 134 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:08.759 And at the end, like, I know how we can 135 00:06:08.759 --> 00:06:10.759 get back in this and they come out and they're 136 00:06:10.759 --> 00:06:15.319 all wearing Ducks jerseys like it's the Ducks are back. 137 00:06:17.800 --> 00:06:20.240 I'm watching who the fuck of the Ducks? 138 00:06:20.240 --> 00:06:22.439 And they'reart saying we will quack you. 139 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:25.560 I'm going to take it back. I don't think I 140 00:06:25.560 --> 00:06:26.079 should watch t. 141 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:30.480 Who played Keenan from Keenan and Cal Is on SNL. 142 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:33.360 Keenan he's actually, of course it is. Yeah, he plays 143 00:06:33.519 --> 00:06:36.040 he plays the knuckle pot kid. It's just the little 144 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:37.920 fat kid do they find at the local basketball court 145 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:42.079 and he joins the guys done well. 146 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:44.600 He's I don't know how long he's been on SNL 147 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:47.079 all the time, like twenty something a year. Good for him? 148 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.279 Oh yeah, man, you find a gigstick to it. Yeah yeah, 149 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:53.319 you said that SNL UK is starting, So I. 150 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:55.279 Thought its already. Han't already? I had an episode or something. 151 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:57.879 No, no, I think it starts. If not this week, 152 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:00.319 then next week. They've imported like Tina f to be 153 00:07:00.360 --> 00:07:01.879 the host for the first episode. 154 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:03.879 I saw someone like why now, why not forty five 155 00:07:03.920 --> 00:07:08.639 years ago when it might have been relevant? Now speaking 156 00:07:08.639 --> 00:07:14.680 of relevant, boy, Betsy, we've been recording, probably been five 157 00:07:14.680 --> 00:07:15.800 minutes now recording. 158 00:07:15.839 --> 00:07:18.040 That's the question. That's good becaues they recording down there? 159 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:25.199 The red light means an rage. No, the numbers are 160 00:07:25.199 --> 00:07:31.720 ticking over were certainly recorded, like we went greed means girl? 161 00:07:31.839 --> 00:07:35.439 Right, is it actually recording? 162 00:07:35.879 --> 00:07:39.160 Okay, we're at We're at the seven minute. 163 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:43.839 Yeah, that's good, okay, seven fifteen. So I haven't really 164 00:07:43.920 --> 00:07:46.079 written many detailed notes about this. When I was taking 165 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:49.199 my notes last night for it, I again, I enjoy 166 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:50.800 when Homer and marjor Good as a team together. 167 00:07:50.879 --> 00:07:52.560 Right. I knew you were going to say it, right. 168 00:07:52.639 --> 00:07:55.240 I was like, Dano will like this episode, or will 169 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.279 like the foundation of this episode. 170 00:07:58.319 --> 00:08:02.399 I thought that this was going to become a Marge 171 00:08:02.480 --> 00:08:04.920 ends up despising Homer, and it almost does to an extent, 172 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:07.759 but it came out of nowhere and unjustified. Yeah. She 173 00:08:07.879 --> 00:08:10.120 was just like, everything I do with you, it always 174 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:12.360 ends it bad for me. And I'm like, wait, what, 175 00:08:12.720 --> 00:08:15.480 Literally thirty seconds ago you were saying how his love 176 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:17.720 of your life and life's great with home, blah blah blah. 177 00:08:17.759 --> 00:08:20.279 Now you're saying this because you hurt your shoulder. 178 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:25.199 Yeah. Now, admittedly, I think there's the germ of a 179 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:28.560 good idea in that, in that you know these who 180 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:32.000 have joined the curling team. One is better than the other, 181 00:08:32.039 --> 00:08:34.879 one is sort of holding the other up, or one's 182 00:08:34.919 --> 00:08:36.559 a bit of a bit of a passenger. 183 00:08:36.799 --> 00:08:41.799 How are they representing the country? That's my throw logic 184 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:44.600 at them. Simpsons go to the Olympics, which. 185 00:08:44.679 --> 00:08:47.639 Not just why a Homer and margin? Why Edna and 186 00:08:48.399 --> 00:08:50.720 Seymour Edna Anes? Sorry, not ed? 187 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:54.279 And that's another problem I have with this episode. Oh yes, 188 00:08:54.679 --> 00:08:58.039 just unnecessary hate towards Skinner all the time, to the 189 00:08:58.080 --> 00:09:00.639 point where this isn't funny. This is just she's a 190 00:09:00.679 --> 00:09:01.399 horrible person. 191 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:06.159 Forgive the adult language here, but I've written down here. Wow, 192 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:10.279 fuck Agnes, I'm sorry, she was just a terrible, terrible person. 193 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:13.159 And then later on, I'm sorry that we'll get to 194 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:17.080 it when we get to it, but unearned redemption out 195 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:19.679 of nowhere, which is something you actually could have built on. 196 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:23.240 Yeah, but it was just like I've now realized that 197 00:09:23.279 --> 00:09:26.000 you know I love you? When when did you realize it? 198 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:26.320 Yeah? 199 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:28.480 You hated in like last time we spoke to me. 200 00:09:28.519 --> 00:09:31.399 I'm sorry, You've got I know You've only got twenty 201 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:33.799 two minutes or however long this episode actually runs to 202 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:37.759 tell this story. I'm sure there's these moments. Yeah, you've 203 00:09:37.759 --> 00:09:39.799 got to earn it. Like Tom Hanks said in Saving 204 00:09:39.799 --> 00:09:41.240 Priort Ryan, You've got to earn this. 205 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:43.279 It did just feel like, you know, the Winter Olympics 206 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.759 are on, let's tie it in. That was the whole 207 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:46.279 point of this. 208 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:49.759 So you've got these two parallel storyline. Well actually, I 209 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:53.559 mean yeah, I guess the A plot is is Homer 210 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.279 and Marge at the Olympics, and the bat plot is 211 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:58.519 Lisa getting addicted to Olympic pins. 212 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.000 Like I said about that, I'm a better in saying 213 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:08.039 that relatable. I look at the studio, I can I 214 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:11.679 lie to just the idea of getting addicted to collecting 215 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:13.480 ship and how easy it is because you see these 216 00:10:13.480 --> 00:10:15.360 things in the newspapers all the time. They go get 217 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:17.559 this this day's or this month, so this week's pin 218 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:19.559 or poster and stuff. As a kid, I was like, 219 00:10:19.639 --> 00:10:20.799 I've got to collect them all. 220 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:24.879 Oh, look, you you're talking to someone who will spending 221 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.320 far more time on eBay than he should or yeah, 222 00:10:27.320 --> 00:10:31.039 would have been buying blues yeah, blue rays. Yeah. Yeah, 223 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:34.159 because there are some that Amazon won't won't pick up, yeah, 224 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:37.039 but eBay will. Yeah. 225 00:10:37.080 --> 00:10:39.600 I know eBay have done recently too. You watch something 226 00:10:39.720 --> 00:10:42.000 right and it will go just so you know someone 227 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:45.159 else started watching this item. You're like, no, you know 228 00:10:45.279 --> 00:10:46.200 that traveled in his mind. 229 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:52.879 The feeling you could spend you could probably exercise three 230 00:10:52.919 --> 00:10:55.320 to four minutes out of the Lisa is addicted to 231 00:10:55.440 --> 00:11:00.840 Olympic pins story and flesh out the relationship between see 232 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:04.879 Moore and Agnes a bit more that storyline, or a 233 00:11:04.919 --> 00:11:06.639 bit more with margin Homer. 234 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:09.679 So I was reading here on the wiki page that 235 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:11.519 the original plan was for the Homer to be in 236 00:11:11.559 --> 00:11:13.799 a four man Bob sled team as a I guess 237 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:16.879 a cool Runnings parody. I probably could have bought into 238 00:11:16.879 --> 00:11:19.159 that more than this, and it would have been confusing 239 00:11:19.240 --> 00:11:22.000 for You're doing a Winter Olympics episode the first ever 240 00:11:22.240 --> 00:11:25.879 time with the Winter Olympics, there was no couples or 241 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:31.600 was no teamed curling event at the Olympics at that 242 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:32.159 point in time. 243 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:35.200 Oh okay, So they basically had to invent a sport 244 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:36.240 or a variation on. 245 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:40.000 A sport the writers artistic license because although curling is 246 00:11:40.000 --> 00:11:42.360 an Olympic sport, mixed doubles, which is featured in the episode, 247 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:43.879 was not an Olympic event at the time. 248 00:11:44.200 --> 00:11:44.679 This airing. 249 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:47.720 It did debut eight years later. However, in the episode, 250 00:11:47.720 --> 00:11:49.639 it explained that the event is being held as a 251 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:51.639 demonstration sport. They do say that I was wondering why 252 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:52.879 it's a demonstration sport again. 253 00:11:52.960 --> 00:11:56.720 Yeah, so curling is just so odd to me. I'm 254 00:11:56.720 --> 00:11:59.320 trying to understand the physics of it and just sort 255 00:11:59.360 --> 00:12:02.440 of can't get my head around it. It's entertaining and 256 00:12:02.480 --> 00:12:05.440 it's like hell yeah, I mean, it's got a real 257 00:12:05.519 --> 00:12:07.879 curiosity about what is this? What are you guys doing. 258 00:12:08.320 --> 00:12:10.240 I'm sure the people who do curling take it very, 259 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:13.720 very seriously, particularly in Canada, where they love it or 260 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:17.960 I don't love it, but you know, it's certainly taken seriously. 261 00:12:18.000 --> 00:12:19.799 There's a whole movie about it called Men with Brooms. 262 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:21.960 Getting visions of like kids laying it home in their 263 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:30.240 beds with posters of curlers well on the wadies box. Yeah, 264 00:12:30.919 --> 00:12:32.320 shout all the curlers out there. 265 00:12:33.799 --> 00:12:37.519 That I had. Props to you, guys and gals. I 266 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:40.600 don't know, you maybe need a better representation than this episode. 267 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:44.159 I don't know. I wanted to like this episode more 268 00:12:44.200 --> 00:12:46.039 than I did because the things that you're bringing up 269 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:47.919 that you disliked about it. There certainly things that I 270 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:50.559 disliked about it, and particularly yeah, I think I think 271 00:12:50.559 --> 00:12:52.879 the ag and stuff really just left a bad taste 272 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:53.440 in my mouth. 273 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.879 I think they built to the problem. The problem is 274 00:12:56.879 --> 00:12:58.759 to happen in the second act, and the problem with 275 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:03.120 March hourning it happened really near the end, and when 276 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:05.279 the episode's over, you kind of go, did we even 277 00:13:05.360 --> 00:13:08.120 need that injury? Because yes, she uses her other arm, 278 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:09.559 but it's it's all exactly the same. 279 00:13:09.720 --> 00:13:11.679 Yeah it didn't. 280 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:14.360 It created like a moment of tension for like, it 281 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.519 goes for like ninety seconds, the tension, and it's just like, 282 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:18.799 you know what, I'm good with my other arm. I 283 00:13:18.840 --> 00:13:19.360 can do this. 284 00:13:19.440 --> 00:13:22.360 And you're like, why what I mean? 285 00:13:22.360 --> 00:13:24.600 I would might even need that because when they go 286 00:13:24.799 --> 00:13:28.639 we're having the forfeit ceremony and Marge goes not so fast. 287 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:31.679 It's like that was it was so blinking you miss 288 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:32.480 it very much. 289 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:34.840 So if you went to the you literally turned off 290 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:37.240 for like ninety seconds, you would forget that whole subplot 291 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:38.399 of Marge's angry at home. 292 00:13:38.519 --> 00:13:40.759 Now I get the film. There's a whole bunch of 293 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:44.320 good ideas in here. I mean, I don't dislike the 294 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:48.080 notion of I mean, it's very far fetched about Agnes 295 00:13:48.120 --> 00:13:52.039 being a champion pole vaulter who whose dreams of Olympic 296 00:13:52.080 --> 00:13:56.039 glory were sort of quashed by Ah, yeah, I was 297 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:57.960 pregnant and Seawa decides to kick one time and it 298 00:13:58.039 --> 00:13:59.600 knocks the bar of and oh I'd lose. 299 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:01.679 We're going to discuss that scene as well. 300 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:07.159 Yeah. I like the foundation, I like the the the 301 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:09.720 core of that idea. It's like, I could have been great, 302 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:11.519 but now I've got this baby, and that's that's the 303 00:14:11.559 --> 00:14:14.679 origins of my disdain from my son. Yeah, yeah, which 304 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:17.639 is like a running gag. Now, admittedly, you've got to 305 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:19.879 revert to the status quo as we always talk about, 306 00:14:20.039 --> 00:14:21.360 you know, it's always got to be the way that 307 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:23.320 Agne is going to be, like seem why are you suck? 308 00:14:24.080 --> 00:14:26.000 It's like, okay, we've got to get back back to 309 00:14:26.039 --> 00:14:26.679 that at the end. 310 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:29.720 The problem is we've seen them have redemption stories where 311 00:14:29.759 --> 00:14:32.559 they've got where she's gone. I'm sorry, I know I've 312 00:14:32.600 --> 00:14:35.159 been too tough on you in the past, so when 313 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:37.120 you go back to it's kind of like we've been 314 00:14:37.159 --> 00:14:39.759 here before, We've done this before. 315 00:14:40.240 --> 00:14:43.399 Yeah, I mean The best example of this kind of 316 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:46.120 family dynamic, this kind of toxic family dynamic mother and 317 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:49.759 son in particular, is in thirty Rock with Jack Donahan 318 00:14:49.759 --> 00:14:52.879 and Alibaman's character and his mum, who you know, she's 319 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:57.360 constantly on his constantly yeah yeah, and she's and he's 320 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:00.559 giving it back to her as well, and the moments 321 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:03.120 when they do sort of bond, it's like, oh, you 322 00:15:03.120 --> 00:15:05.440 guys are similar enough. We can see that you actually 323 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:07.279 do love each other. You know, the fact that you're 324 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:09.879 so hateful makes you love each other, but occasionally you'll 325 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:12.840 direct that hate at each other. With these two, I'm 326 00:15:12.879 --> 00:15:15.440 just I don't understand it, and I certainly don't understand 327 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:16.320 of this. 328 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:20.679 Episode with comedy, particularly when it comes to like, you know, 329 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:23.840 someone being mean to another, if you're feeling sympathetic towards 330 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:26.039 the other person, it's not funny anymore. No, And I 331 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:29.000 was found myself feeling sympathetic towards Skinner this entire time, 332 00:15:29.159 --> 00:15:32.399 even making the jokes of you know, this unconscious reflex 333 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:35.759 reflex in the in utero that was you know, inconceivable. 334 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:39.279 It's like, no, it wasn't like it's sad that got 335 00:15:39.279 --> 00:15:42.080 yourself a breakman. Yeah, and I just it wasn't even 336 00:15:42.080 --> 00:15:43.679 coming across as a simp. He was just coming across 337 00:15:43.679 --> 00:15:47.519 as a victim of abuse. Essentially, wasn't here much and 338 00:15:47.559 --> 00:15:49.240 she had there was no justification for it, the way 339 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:50.279 she was young at him all the time, and I 340 00:15:50.320 --> 00:15:51.759 was went and then at the end she just goes. 341 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.320 I thought, when you fucked up at the end when 342 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:56.399 the stick broke, and she's like, oh, I realized I 343 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:57.679 love you now. I thought there was gonna be some 344 00:15:57.679 --> 00:15:59.519 sort of rug pull here, and now she's no, it's like, oh, 345 00:15:59.519 --> 00:16:01.080 I'm gonna take it for pizza and icegain. And I 346 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:05.200 was like, when did this happen? We didn't even get 347 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:08.639 like the the tease of her potentially changing her mind, 348 00:16:08.720 --> 00:16:11.720 seeing the error of her ways. It's just like on 349 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:12.639 what she likes him now? 350 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:15.919 Yeah? What So that didn't make a whole lot of sense. Yea, 351 00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:19.159 So yeah, when you've got this redemption moment at the end, 352 00:16:19.279 --> 00:16:21.159 so well you're not you think you're stick in the 353 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:24.879 landing here you're not. And likewise almost with Homer as well. 354 00:16:24.960 --> 00:16:27.799 I mean, I would have liked the idea of these 355 00:16:27.799 --> 00:16:31.159 two working together all the way through. Maybe one's better 356 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:32.840 than the other. As I pointed out earlier, you know, 357 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:34.799 Marge is the real sort of the real driver here 358 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:39.159 and Homer's doing his best, which it's probably it was 359 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:41.559 one of my favorite moments. Oh he tries his best. Well, 360 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:44.320 that's why he's never going to get any better. At 361 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:47.279 the end, Homer didn't even really have to try. He 362 00:16:47.360 --> 00:16:49.799 was so good. No, I mean, it would have been 363 00:16:49.879 --> 00:16:52.240 nice for him to sort of like, oh, Marge's trying 364 00:16:52.240 --> 00:16:53.720 to say, I need to try more, I need to 365 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.039 do it, give him a little bit of a win. 366 00:16:56.080 --> 00:16:58.919 I mean, I know this is mostly Marge's win, but 367 00:16:59.080 --> 00:17:02.159 it felt like, yeah, we always talk about say I 368 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.359 think we bringd the Fraser example, it's like, stop treating 369 00:17:04.359 --> 00:17:06.480 this guy like a three legged dog, giving a little 370 00:17:06.480 --> 00:17:08.279 pet on the head for the for the effort or whatever. 371 00:17:09.079 --> 00:17:10.640 I felt that way about Homer in this. It's like 372 00:17:10.839 --> 00:17:13.279 you should be trying a bit harder. And you mentioned 373 00:17:13.319 --> 00:17:14.200 that as Quoe before. 374 00:17:15.119 --> 00:17:18.799 If I'm writing this episode right, and I could be wrong, 375 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:22.279 but it all take is just one line. But you 376 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:25.759 need to explain why margin Homer are retiring from the 377 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:28.119 sport now because you watch this and you go they 378 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:29.960 have just one gold at the Olympics. Why would they 379 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:31.319 not continue to Why would hon't I go back to 380 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:32.720 the power plan? Why would margin go back to being 381 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:34.720 a house Why they're not international athlete superstars? 382 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:37.119 Now that's right, Yeah, because they seem so into it. 383 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:39.400 Explain why they're not going to be doing in the 384 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:42.240 next episode. That's not just not just that they're good 385 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:44.519 at it, they're best in the world. Yeah, but they're 386 00:17:44.519 --> 00:17:46.839 also yeah, really into it as well. They found something 387 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:47.240 they like. 388 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:50.119 Doing together, So why would they started doing inside jokes 389 00:17:50.119 --> 00:17:52.880 about curling and everything? Yeah, makes sense. 390 00:17:52.960 --> 00:17:55.119 Just just give us something. It can be illogical, but 391 00:17:55.240 --> 00:17:58.000 just something to justify why they wouldn't continue doing it, 392 00:17:58.119 --> 00:17:58.799 or even do one of. 393 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:01.599 Those cheap Simpsons gags kind of like, yeah, I'm thinking 394 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:01.839 of that. 395 00:18:02.079 --> 00:18:05.160 Yeah, I would take anything. Yeah, yeah, I'll take a 396 00:18:05.200 --> 00:18:07.920 copy out over nothing. I did like though, that they 397 00:18:07.920 --> 00:18:11.119 didn't mock curly because I feel like a lot of 398 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:12.960 people see curly as sort of like a joke sport. 399 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:13.559 Yeah. 400 00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:15.640 I know, I did for the longest time until I've 401 00:18:15.640 --> 00:18:17.640