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<v Speaker 1>This podcast is brought to you by, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>special sponsor, surprise sponsor. I'm here with, this is Tim Cuff, co-host.

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<v Speaker 2>Ryan?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan McDonald, co-host. We have a very special guest that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to share our sponsor with. It is my family,

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin DiPietri.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, first and last name, that's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Or as CeCe calls you, Tevin.

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<v Speaker 2>Tevin.

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<v Speaker 1>Not Uncle Tevin, just Tevin.

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<v Speaker 2>Tevin. It's a lot better than a year ago.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Kevin, we've talked about on the podcast before how

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<v Speaker 1>you spend time in Brazil.

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<v Speaker 2>I did.

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<v Speaker 1>And we, you know, we're on the pod, we're big

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<v Speaker 1>fans of the delicacy known as buzz balls.

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<v Speaker 3>We've made them actually what they are today.

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<v Speaker 1>So we went to, what's the liquor store by your house?

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<v Speaker 2>One Stop.

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<v Speaker 1>One Stop's great. Their pricing is insane. One Stop should

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<v Speaker 1>be the sponsor. So you couldn't believe the Casamigos handle price.

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<v Speaker 3>Unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a handle of Raposado for $ 51. So they

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<v Speaker 1>had Brazilian buzz balls.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Here you go. Give one to Ryan.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so generous.

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<v Speaker 1>And our sponsor is One Stop and buzz balls. What's

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<v Speaker 1>a capey?

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<v Speaker 2>Where do you see that?

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<v Speaker 1>C-A-I-P-I.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would have thought that was Capri. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe like a Caipirosca? Something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I know, isn't it Capirinha?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Capirinha, Caipirosca.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because you speak Portuguese.

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<v Speaker 2>A little bit. A little bit. That's not good.

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<v Speaker 1>And it is 15% alcohol, so it's like wine.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's only 15%? It's like wine.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a fine wine. Smells like limes. Cheers.

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<v Speaker 2>Saúde.

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<v Speaker 1>To Kevin. What's cheers in Portuguese?

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<v Speaker 2>Saúde.

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<v Speaker 3>Saúde?

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<v Speaker 2>Saúde, saúde, yeah. Sláinte. It's the same everywhere. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to drink this whole thing?

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<v Speaker 1>You are supposed to drink the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>At once?

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan's having some trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay. It's not bad.

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<v Speaker 3>It's pretty citrusy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But I love them.

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<v Speaker 3>I got the Buzz Balls tattoo as the company asked

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<v Speaker 3>me to do so all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right well i'm playing the theme song right now oh

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<v Speaker 1>shit oh no i'm not playing the theme song i

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<v Speaker 1>pressed the wrong button this is off to a great start.

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<v Speaker 2>M & M.

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<v Speaker 1>Three years?

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<v Speaker 2>Three years, yep.

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<v Speaker 1>They had a Buzz Boulder, which is a bigger.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw that. What's bigger than the ball?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't there a.

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<v Speaker 2>There's the ball, there's the.

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<v Speaker 1>No, this is the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm starting, I'm doing the full hierarchy.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>There's the ball, there's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Biggie, Biggie.

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<v Speaker 2>Biggie, but gone, but not forgotten, Buzz Bomb.

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<v Speaker 3>Wish they kept that.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the Buzz Bomb? Medium size, between....

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<v Speaker 1>Oh between balls like a softball size baseball size no

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<v Speaker 1>this is baseball size softball size then there's Biggie and

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<v Speaker 1>then there's Boulder and there was.

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<v Speaker 3>A Boulder Boulder is I want to kill everyone I

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<v Speaker 3>know Boulder.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like the size of a bowling ball is that

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<v Speaker 2>a single serving like a single person no no okay

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<v Speaker 2>because these are these are meant to be drank by

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<v Speaker 2>yourself yes like as you go up it just becomes

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<v Speaker 2>like a there's so much larger vessel it's no longer

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<v Speaker 2>a buzz ball it's just so the Boulder.

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<v Speaker 1>That I found was melon.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought, oh, my God. I just picture, like,

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<v Speaker 3>at the marketing team, like, can we pick the grossest

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<v Speaker 3>flavor for the boulder?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course we can. So I was going to buy that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>as a joke, and I thought, why? You're just going

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<v Speaker 1>to dump it out. You're going to throw it away.

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<v Speaker 2>Or drink it. You would end up making us all

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<v Speaker 2>drink it. We're going to get the barbecue sauce boulder. Sure. Oh, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, welcome back to Cuff's Basement.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And we are talking about a film. So we are

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<v Speaker 1>out in Littleton on location. So we haven't released a

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<v Speaker 1>pod in a while, and it's because we were busy

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<v Speaker 1>taking a victory lap after the Batman series, the Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>Nolan trilogy.

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<v Speaker 3>We have resurrected that franchise. People are talking about it again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. Nobody even remembered it coming out, basically.

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<v Speaker 3>People just didn't know it existed. They were like, holy shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I was very happy with the podcast series. It got

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<v Speaker 1>a little choppy at the end.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't love the recording session for The Dark Knight,

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<v Speaker 3>but the rest were great. I loved The Dark Knight Rises.

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't you like the recording session?

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<v Speaker 3>It was just, the circumstances were tough. I, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, because of the dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>It was tough.

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<v Speaker 2>That did not come through. It was tough.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>You did great. But.

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<v Speaker 3>You're too hard on yourself. I made up for it

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<v Speaker 3>with The Dark Knight Rises.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, we're going to.

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<v Speaker 1>You sure did. You sure did.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't notice a difference between any of the episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>just so you guys know.

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<v Speaker 3>Good.

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<v Speaker 2>No difference whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the third one was noticeably different.

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<v Speaker 2>And the end happened how all ends of 12-chapter podcasts happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Just repeating yourself. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Kevin and Megan each asked me a question... Because

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm so removed from normal people when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to Batman. They both asked me a question that

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, how do they not know the answer to this?

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<v Speaker 1>One of them was Megan said, so why did Christian

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<v Speaker 1>Bale decide to not be Batman anymore? And I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>it was done. That was it. That was his story.

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<v Speaker 1>It was done. There was no... There wasn't a possibility

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're not an avid Batman fan, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a first, second, third, and then it's over,

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<v Speaker 2>you never see the guy again.

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<v Speaker 1>But those movies ended, and then there was years until

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<v Speaker 1>another Batman movie, and then it was a different director,

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<v Speaker 1>different actor.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Maybe I'm embarrassed to say this. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really not, actually. I always thought of the one with

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<v Speaker 2>Heath Ledger as the first, because it was so awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people do think that.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what happened with Liam Neeson.

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<v Speaker 3>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so bizarre when we did the rewatch. I

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<v Speaker 3>was like, wow, Batman Begins. That one was the most, like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>impressive rewatch in the three. I'm not saying it's the

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<v Speaker 3>best one, but I was like.

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<v Speaker 1>It was better than I remembered.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just, wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought Bane was so much... Bane was... Bane... The Bane... Um... what,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you call it? A series. What is that called? Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>that genre, the Bane, the, the Bane, uh, uh, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bane movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He was probably equal villain wise to Heath Ledger. And

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<v Speaker 2>those two movies were closer and like how good they were.

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<v Speaker 2>And that first movie was kind of average.

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<v Speaker 3>I think those two are the most style comparatively. Cause

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<v Speaker 3>Batman begins truly feels different than when you watch the

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<v Speaker 3>other two. Like it's way more like quote unquote, like fantastical.

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<v Speaker 3>The other two are much more like city real. Um,

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<v Speaker 3>But Bane's incredible. I think he's always going to be underrated,

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<v Speaker 1>Bane is incredible. I think that the first movie had

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<v Speaker 1>to be about Batman, and the other two were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stolen by amazing villains. But the question that Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>asked me that I just didn't understand, because he said,

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<v Speaker 1>how many more of these movies are you doing? And

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<v Speaker 1>I said, none of them. We were very clear, consistently

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the podcast, we're doing the three Christopher Nolan movies.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to do the four 90s ones... Did

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<v Speaker 3>I ask that?

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<v Speaker 1>You asked me in person, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Would love to do those.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I said, no, Dark Knight Rises is it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he said, thank God.

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<v Speaker 2>Fair? No, no, it was a good series. I liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to everything. I got choppy because I even

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<v Speaker 2>listened in the wrong order. Yeah, Kevin said I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Confused because I was listening in the wrong order. I go,

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<v Speaker 1>why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do Dark Knight Rises Part 4, and then Batman

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<v Speaker 3>Begins 2, then Dark Knight Part 1.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's like if you look, sometimes you look if

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<v Speaker 2>you're three behind, and you go, oh, maybe I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>skip those and go to this next one that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>interested in. And then you go, oh, if those are

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<v Speaker 2>all tied together, I've got to go back, but I'll

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<v Speaker 2>go back later.

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<v Speaker 3>You're halfway through the Dark Knight, and you're like, when

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<v Speaker 3>is Liam Neeson here?

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<v Speaker 2>Totally.

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<v Speaker 1>So we come out here once a year, and we

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<v Speaker 1>do a pod with my sister and my brother-in-law, Kevin, Tevin.

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<v Speaker 1>And we said, like, Kevin, you can pick any movie

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<v Speaker 1>you want. We don't care. Like, just tell us in advance.

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<v Speaker 1>And you chose a great film. You chose There Will

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<v Speaker 1>Be Blood, which came out in what year? 07. 07.

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<v Speaker 1>Directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, starring Richard Grieco. Or, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Day-Lewis. And why did you choose There Will Be Blood?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, man. Well, this was one of the movies that

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I had heard anything about at all.

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<v Speaker 2>ended up coming on at some point. You heard nothing

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<v Speaker 2>about it before.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing. When did it come out?

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<v Speaker 2>It came out in 2007, maybe in like 2010 at

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<v Speaker 2>some point. So when it came out, you didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I did not see this, no.

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<v Speaker 1>And you were not aware of it?

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<v Speaker 2>Not aware. Not aware. And I'm like, I saw it

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<v Speaker 2>probably on Amazon Prime or something like that. Great title.

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<v Speaker 1>The title is a spoiler for the end of the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Very true. Um... And then, yeah, I mean, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>So, we've talked about on the pod how, like, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>in modern times. Since, you know, 1960, he would be

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<v Speaker 3>Cause De Niro Sure. De Niro was famous for homework

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<v Speaker 2>I probably only know like five DDL movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Which are what?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't do a lot. Um the Gangs in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>Gangs in New York. The one in Ireland of the

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<v Speaker 2>guys that got arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, in the name of the father.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. Last of the Mohegans. Hoping to see Jer today.

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<v Speaker 2>Hear from Jer.

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot about Jer. I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>That alternate cut is pretty tough.

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<v Speaker 3>Da.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to kiss you, da.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, those both of them moved in here for a

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<v Speaker 1>my son. Alright, let's move on. So, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this performance specifically, because Bill the Butcher is

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<v Speaker 3>You got to wait for a best actor for Bill

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<v Speaker 3>the Butcher.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Hot take that that movie sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with that at all, but a lot

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's great. Obviously. Leo's great. I mean, there are

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<v Speaker 2>good things about it, but that it's a hard watch it's.

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<v Speaker 3>The example of in real time when you watch a

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<v Speaker 3>editing doing whatever realizes like oh this is the more

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<v Speaker 3>interesting thing is Daniel Lewis and the movie just completely

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<v Speaker 1>Time kind of like Family Matters with Urkel.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly or like The Simpsons with Bart DeHomer like oh

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<v Speaker 3>this is what people want to see go for.

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<v Speaker 1>It sure I like the Urkel example better, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>You mean Stievel in Carlsbad?

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<v Speaker 1>Stievel in Carlsbad.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The puppets. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I can't think... He probably is my goat. Probably.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's like.

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<v Speaker 3>Because, again, the homework has become so famous for him,

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<v Speaker 3>it's almost like people take it for granted, undeniable. His

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<v Speaker 3>performances are amazing. He does disappear. This is very selfish.

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<v Speaker 3>I just wish he did more stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember hearing an interview where someone's like, I think

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<v Speaker 3>Nicolas Cage is the greatest actor of all time. And

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<v Speaker 3>the person was like, why? And they're like, look at

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<v Speaker 3>what he's done.

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<v Speaker 2>He's unafraid.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's unafraid. Even if he fucking fails, he does it.

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<v Speaker 1>Madden looks interesting. Did you see the trailer for that?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't, but I heard. Is that going straight to.

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<v Speaker 4>yes it's Christian Bale is that a good thing now

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<v Speaker 4>or a bad thing no a bad thing oh okay

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<v Speaker 4>I thought so Christian Bale is Al Davis right no

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<v Speaker 4>I know Nicholas Cage is John Madden but like it's

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<v Speaker 4>just like I will watch that though oh of course

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<v Speaker 4>I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's just different acting styles if you're a method

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<v Speaker 3>actor obviously he's the best but I feel like if

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<v Speaker 3>you're a person who just tries anything because some actors

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<v Speaker 3>are like my job is just to be me like

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be George Clooney in this movie you're

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<v Speaker 3>just going to see me before you see.

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<v Speaker 1>The character George Clooney's not going to transform.

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<v Speaker 3>Exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. De Niro went and started doing comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>So did Pacino later in their career. He's not going

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<v Speaker 2>to do a comedy with Ben Stiller.

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<v Speaker 1>I truly have no idea what DDL is up to

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<v Speaker 1>in between movies. But I picture him living on a

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<v Speaker 1>remote island off the coast of Ireland. And he's building

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<v Speaker 1>furniture with his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>He's literally a goat herder. He's like, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>be goat herding from here on out.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of goat's milk in this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>It was real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And this movie is directed by, speaking of goats,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the greatest living directors, I think. Not the greatest,

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<v Speaker 1>but one of the greatest. Paul Thomas Anderson, PTA. This

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<v Speaker 1>came out in 2007. So at that point, he had

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<v Speaker 1>done Heart 8, Boogie Nights. Heart 8 was kind of unknown.

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<v Speaker 2>Good movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Boogie Nights, huge movie. Magnolia with Tom Cruise, Punch Drunk

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<v Speaker 1>Love with Adam Sandler, and then that was it. And

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<v Speaker 1>he also had not made a movie for five years.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a very big dunk for him.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you get Daniel Day-Lewis for this movie?

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder. I think he's so known for being a

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<v Speaker 3>good writer. I wonder if you read the script and

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<v Speaker 3>you're kind of like, yep, I'll do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, think about this. So, Hard Eight, okay, it was

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<v Speaker 1>an independent movie. Boogie Nights, Masterpiece, Home Run, made him famous.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>Magnolia....

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<v Speaker 1>People didn't love it.

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<v Speaker 3>At the time it was seen as overwrought. I think

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<v Speaker 3>people love it a lot more now.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the time it was not a huge success.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially it was like Tom Cruise was taking a risk

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<v Speaker 1>and they thought it didn't pay off. Then Punch Drunk

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<v Speaker 1>Love is a movie starring Adam Sandler. I'm not shitting

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<v Speaker 1>on Punch Drunk Love. But it's like people are like

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<v Speaker 1>what is this? And then he doesn't make a movie

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<v Speaker 1>for five years.

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<v Speaker 3>But you think like also like one of his contemporaries

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<v Speaker 3>David Fincher 2002 makes Panic Room. Does nothing for five years.

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<v Speaker 3>Since he does nothing. Doesn't do a movie for five

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<v Speaker 3>years and then does Zodiac. And you're like, well, why

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<v Speaker 3>you did this and then this came next? Like, what

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<v Speaker 3>is this jump?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's the opportunity. I don't know. It's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, because if you read about how PTA wrote

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<v Speaker 3>this movie, he read the book Oil. It's a book

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<v Speaker 3>from like 1890 something.

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<v Speaker 1>But Upton Sinclair, uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Or even 1900 or something?

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<v Speaker 1>Royal Baptist Sinclair, I don't remember what year, but it was.

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<v Speaker 3>1927 or something like that?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like 100 years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. So you read the book, and he said for fun,

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<v Speaker 3>he was doing like a trip somewhere, and he wrote it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, I'm going to adapt this book on this, like,

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<v Speaker 3>traveling on this trip. I'm just going to like write

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<v Speaker 3>a few chapters into screenplay. And it's like, oh, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a movie here.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something here, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then did it. But you're like, this just seemed

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<v Speaker 3>like so like naturally, like, kind of grown that way.

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<v Speaker 2>And.

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<v Speaker 3>I wonder if this script was just that good and

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Lewis was like, I can't say no to this.

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<v Speaker 1>So after this, just to talk about it real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not relevant to this movie, but he did The

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<v Speaker 1>Master in 2012. Have you seen The Master?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not seen any of the movies you've said

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<v Speaker 2>except for this and Boogie Nights.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, you have to see The Master. The Master might

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<v Speaker 1>be my favorite PTA movie.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the best Joaquin performance of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's Philip Seymour Hoffman.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, DDL won the Oscar this year for Lincoln, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think Joaquin should have won.

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<v Speaker 1>Then Inherent Vice, which is Joaquin again. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>love this movie, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the most forgotten of his movies, hands down.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of Joaquin.

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<v Speaker 1>Then 2017, Phantom Thread. Just weird, even for him. Love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Then 2021, Licorice Pizza, starring Paul Thomas, starring Philip Seymour

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<v Speaker 1>Hoffman's son, Cooper.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>And then 2025, One Battle After Another, where this often

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<v Speaker 1>happens with really good directors. He had never won the

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<v Speaker 1>Oscar for Best Director. He finally won in 2025. Not

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<v Speaker 1>his best movie at all.

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<v Speaker 3>At all. Love the movie, but agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>There Will Be Blood is a better movie.

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<v Speaker 2>What movie in 2025?

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<v Speaker 1>One Battle After Another. It's with Leo.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>It won Best Picture.

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<v Speaker 3>I honestly still think Boogie Nights is his best movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Boogie Nights is probably his best movie.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a million times better.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there will be blood.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a total preference game.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do. I'm not kidding you.

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<v Speaker 3>He's so good, I think it's a preference game.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. And one thing that I remember

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<v Speaker 1>about this movie is like, oh, so I love Boogie Nights.

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<v Speaker 1>Boogie Nights is legit hilarious.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so funny.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought, oh, there will be blood that's completely

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<v Speaker 1>devoid of humor and I don't like that because I

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<v Speaker 1>like how he's funny in his movies. But then when

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<v Speaker 1>I re-watched this, I was like, oh no, this movie's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>There are YouTube videos that people screen in this movie

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<v Speaker 3>theaters and people just like laughing just because when they

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<v Speaker 3>cut back to Daniel's face, people just laugh because you're

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<v Speaker 3>like this, wow, you expected a human to respond to

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<v Speaker 3>this comment? And it's unreal.

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<v Speaker 1>So, big PTA fan. Um, we mentioned this is based

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<v Speaker 1>on Oil by Upton Sinclair. This year, this movie got, like,

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<v Speaker 1>completely swept out of the Oscars. This is the No

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<v Speaker 1>Country for Old Men year.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a weird thing where, like, it's a weird, like,

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<v Speaker 3>collider year where, like, you have so many great things

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<v Speaker 3>come out. Like, not just, like, awards great, but really great.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's, like, what gets picked. Because, like, this is

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<v Speaker 3>the same year as, like, Eastern Promises, Zodiac.

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<v Speaker 1>You love Eastern Promises.

434
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<v Speaker 2>I love Eastern Promises.

435
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<v Speaker 1>It's a great movie.

436
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<v Speaker 2>I've recommended that to... people that i barely know um.

437
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<v Speaker 3>Also uh for the pixar crowd ratatouille like a lot

438
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<v Speaker 3>of great stuff this year and it was like it's

439
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<v Speaker 3>weird like it sucks this movie lost this stuff but

440
00:18:47.710 --> 00:18:50.069
<v Speaker 3>also i'm like hey it's the colin brothers these guys

441
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<v Speaker 3>have never done anything that is like um not what

442
00:18:54.230 --> 00:18:56.490
<v Speaker 3>they do even if you don't like it it's always

443
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<v Speaker 3>been their thing and like they do no country which

444
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<v Speaker 3>is like adapted no no country's great i really like great.

445
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<v Speaker 2>Kevin's not a huge fan i need to re-watch that

446
00:19:05.859 --> 00:19:08.640
<v Speaker 2>i i missed something there i watched it last i'd

447
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<v Speaker 2>seen it.

448
00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:11.700
<v Speaker 3>In theaters and i watched it um last year and

449
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<v Speaker 3>i was like this is like a little bit like

450
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<v Speaker 3>coen brothers applied that was my mentality like this is

451
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<v Speaker 3>like them like doing like someone else's work then i

452
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<v Speaker 3>could watch something i'm kind of like nope this is

453
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<v Speaker 3>just them batting 4 000 like they're just this good.

454
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<v Speaker 1>At this that's also a funny movie it's also.

455
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<v Speaker 3>Very funny also they're very good at which i think

456
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<v Speaker 3>is insane like no one ever gives them credit for

457
00:19:31.180 --> 00:19:35.559
<v Speaker 3>they're so good at like that kind of thing it's their.

458
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<v Speaker 2>But their best movie is fargo everything is compared against

459
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<v Speaker 2>the ariester um movie i just in the pod we

460
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<v Speaker 2>did yeah Eddington the violence in that everything that was

461
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<v Speaker 2>compared against that it's like don't come at me with

462
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<v Speaker 2>anything less than a. 50 cal rotating machine gun I brought.

463
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<v Speaker 1>This up in the pod we did with Meg why

464
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<v Speaker 1>nobody does this and I don't get it like Ari

465
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<v Speaker 1>Aster using male nudity for horror purposes is so effective

466
00:20:05.170 --> 00:20:06.869
<v Speaker 1>and I said to Megan which is scarier a guy

467
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<v Speaker 1>breaks into your house or a guy breaks into your

468
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<v Speaker 1>house naked right oh god It's Apples and Oranges. So.

469
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<v Speaker 2>Easter Promises, again. Terrifying.

470
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<v Speaker 1>Naked fights.

471
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<v Speaker 2>Great fight scene, though. Naked knife scene. You're getting attacked

472
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<v Speaker 2>two on one. You're naked. They're not. And you win.

473
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<v Speaker 2>And you win. And yeah, you win and walk out

474
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<v Speaker 2>of there.

475
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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the one problem I had. I thought Viggo

476
00:20:28.829 --> 00:20:34.269
<v Speaker 1>Mortensen's character was really soft in that movie. Yeah. But

477
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<v Speaker 1>the only Oscar this movie won, because No Country took director, picture...

478
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<v Speaker 1>This won Best Actor, Daniel Day-Lewis. And it really, obviously

479
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<v Speaker 1>because it was so good, but like No Country for

480
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<v Speaker 1>Old Men doesn't really have a main character.

481
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<v Speaker 2>It does not.

482
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<v Speaker 1>So you couldn't really, I mean, Javier Bardem could have

483
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<v Speaker 1>been nominated for Best Actor, but they probably did it intentionally.

484
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<v Speaker 1>Because sometimes they nominate somebody who's borderline for supporting because

485
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<v Speaker 1>they think it's more of a slam dunk.

486
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<v Speaker 3>It's a guaranteed winner.

487
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, to compare Javier Bardem, did he get

488
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<v Speaker 2>nominated or who got nominated?

489
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<v Speaker 1>He won Best Supporting.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

491
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<v Speaker 1>Javier Bardem won Best Supporting for No Country for Old Men.

492
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<v Speaker 2>Was he nominated for... Actor? Yeah.

493
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<v Speaker 3>No.

494
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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

495
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<v Speaker 1>Only supporting. I'm saying I think they did that intentionally

496
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<v Speaker 1>because it's a more obvious win.

497
00:21:22.230 --> 00:21:24.529
<v Speaker 2>I would say if there was even competition there, it's

498
00:21:24.549 --> 00:21:28.029
<v Speaker 2>like the category's a joke. Yeah, it's just like a

499
00:21:28.049 --> 00:21:28.730
<v Speaker 2>slam dunk thing.

500
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

501
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<v Speaker 1>I saw this in the theater at the time. I

502
00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:36.339
<v Speaker 1>was in college. Love this movie. Always love this movie.

503
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<v Speaker 1>I think that when I... I was almost intimidated because

504
00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:42.940
<v Speaker 1>I was like, Oh, we really have to talk about

505
00:21:42.980 --> 00:21:45.440
<v Speaker 1>this movie. And I don't think I fully understand it.

506
00:21:45.480 --> 00:21:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of it is above my head.

507
00:21:47.380 --> 00:21:49.109
<v Speaker 1>And then when I re-watched it this time, I feel

508
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<v Speaker 1>like I understood a lot more. Probably just because I'm

509
00:21:51.289 --> 00:21:52.589
<v Speaker 1>older and I understand more about life.

510
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<v Speaker 3>Also, I think the hype is taken away.

511
00:21:55.230 --> 00:21:56.329
<v Speaker 2>There's not a lot of.

512
00:21:56.710 --> 00:21:57.890
<v Speaker 1>Intimidation factor.

513
00:21:57.910 --> 00:22:01.309
<v Speaker 3>You're just watching it. There's nothing surrounding it anymore.

514
00:22:01.329 --> 00:22:03.170
<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. When I watched it for the first time,

515
00:22:03.230 --> 00:22:03.869
<v Speaker 2>I had no hype.

516
00:22:04.049 --> 00:22:04.470
<v Speaker 1>There you go.

517
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<v Speaker 2>So just to go into something like... You've recommended movies before.

518
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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, don't say another word. I'm like, I'm going

519
00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:11.380
<v Speaker 2>to watch it from that. Don't tell me anything else.

520
00:22:11.460 --> 00:22:13.559
<v Speaker 2>I want to go in expecting absolutely nothing. And that's

521
00:22:13.640 --> 00:22:15.720
<v Speaker 2>when you, if you go into this expecting absolutely nothing

522
00:22:16.220 --> 00:22:17.680
<v Speaker 2>and like not to get into the beginning of this,

523
00:22:17.740 --> 00:22:22.490
<v Speaker 2>but it's like, yeah, you're yikes. You, you, you, you

524
00:22:22.509 --> 00:22:23.890
<v Speaker 2>put me in a place that I wasn't before.

525
00:22:24.309 --> 00:22:26.529
<v Speaker 3>But I think that's like literally the best way to go.

526
00:22:26.529 --> 00:22:29.900
<v Speaker 3>Cause I feel like now, like as like a quote unquote,

527
00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.529
<v Speaker 3>like avid movie goer, like, I now, like, really avoid

528
00:22:33.589 --> 00:22:34.309
<v Speaker 3>a lot of, like, even.

529
00:22:34.349 --> 00:22:35.250
<v Speaker 2>Like, trailers now.

530
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<v Speaker 3>I'm just kind of.

531
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<v Speaker 2>I don't watch trailers.

532
00:22:36.630 --> 00:22:39.130
<v Speaker 3>I just really... Trailers give away everything. They just give

533
00:22:39.150 --> 00:22:43.089
<v Speaker 3>away so much now, but also, like, that surprise, like, so, like,

534
00:22:43.369 --> 00:22:45.789
<v Speaker 3>I only ever saw the first, like, teaser for Obsession.

535
00:22:46.769 --> 00:22:48.529
<v Speaker 3>And then, like, the reviews came out or whatever, like,

536
00:22:48.549 --> 00:22:50.029
<v Speaker 3>then it was like, holy shit, see.

537
00:22:49.930 --> 00:22:51.750
<v Speaker 2>This, this is crazy. Don't ruin it for me. No spoilers.

538
00:22:52.170 --> 00:22:53.630
<v Speaker 2>No spoilers, agreed. So it's like.

539
00:22:53.769 --> 00:22:54.650
<v Speaker 1>But at the end?

540
00:22:55.049 --> 00:22:57.470
<v Speaker 3>But at the end, when it turns out she is

541
00:22:57.529 --> 00:23:01.430
<v Speaker 3>Daniel Day-Lewis, but it was like, I'm so glad I

542
00:23:01.490 --> 00:23:04.579
<v Speaker 3>didn't read anything about this or there was no trailer

543
00:23:04.619 --> 00:23:07.599
<v Speaker 3>that gave the beat by beat of the movie. Because

544
00:23:07.660 --> 00:23:09.420
<v Speaker 3>unfortunately now you have to do it to get people

545
00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:13.180
<v Speaker 3>to come see it. The experience of just being like,

546
00:23:13.700 --> 00:23:15.900
<v Speaker 3>we're just going to pull the pin on this grenade.

547
00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:20.680
<v Speaker 3>This guy does this wish and let's see what happens.

548
00:23:21.359 --> 00:23:24.480
<v Speaker 3>And it comes true. All you can do is just

549
00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:25.599
<v Speaker 3>be witness to what's happening.

550
00:23:25.619 --> 00:23:27.509
<v Speaker 2>It's so great. And I feel like.

551
00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:31.190
<v Speaker 3>That's just not... allowed it anymore sadly but.

552
00:23:31.410 --> 00:23:35.170
<v Speaker 1>Yeah so I think we should get into it should

553
00:23:35.190 --> 00:23:37.369
<v Speaker 1>we dive into the movie go for it so the

554
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<v Speaker 1>movie begins in the year of our lord 1898 and

555
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<v Speaker 1>there is a man Daniel Plainview played by Daniel Day-Lewis

556
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<v Speaker 1>he is in like a mine shaft a hole that's

557
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<v Speaker 1>sort of a mine shaft and I believe he's mining

558
00:23:52.490 --> 00:23:53.569
<v Speaker 1>for silver.

559
00:23:53.869 --> 00:23:56.029
<v Speaker 3>Silver and gold I believe yeah okay yeah.

560
00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:59.549
<v Speaker 1>And he's like picking at stuff with a pickaxe But

561
00:23:59.589 --> 00:24:03.049
<v Speaker 1>then eventually he realizes, okay, I need to set an explosive.

562
00:24:03.829 --> 00:24:05.809
<v Speaker 1>So he sets an explosive, climbs out of the hole,

563
00:24:05.930 --> 00:24:09.970
<v Speaker 1>blows it up. Then he's going down to find what

564
00:24:10.009 --> 00:24:14.230
<v Speaker 1>the explosion resulted in. And he slips and falls down

565
00:24:14.250 --> 00:24:18.950
<v Speaker 1>the hole. And badly breaks his leg. And he is

566
00:24:19.839 --> 00:24:22.859
<v Speaker 1>limping throughout the rest of the movie. But my takeaway

567
00:24:22.880 --> 00:24:25.440
<v Speaker 1>is he's broken his leg. And after a moment of shock,

568
00:24:26.099 --> 00:24:28.579
<v Speaker 1>he finds a big chunk of silver. And he's like, psyched.

569
00:24:29.650 --> 00:24:30.730
<v Speaker 1>So he's kind of like, I don't.

570
00:24:30.619 --> 00:24:33.259
<v Speaker 2>Care that I broke my leg. Part of the job.

571
00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:34.500
<v Speaker 1>Part of the job.

572
00:24:34.579 --> 00:24:37.559
<v Speaker 2>The first thing that starts off is the music. It

573
00:24:38.480 --> 00:24:41.880
<v Speaker 2>starts off eerily like you are getting... It's coming screaming

574
00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:43.640
<v Speaker 2>at you and it puts you in a black hole.

575
00:24:44.619 --> 00:24:46.980
<v Speaker 2>And this guy's just down there with a pickaxe by himself.

576
00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:50.519
<v Speaker 2>He's bananas. It's a bananas place to start a movie.

577
00:24:51.019 --> 00:24:54.349
<v Speaker 1>I'm not smart enough to talk about scores. I don't

578
00:24:54.420 --> 00:24:58.369
<v Speaker 1>understand music and scores, but I think the score is

579
00:24:58.410 --> 00:25:01.220
<v Speaker 1>so effective, and I couldn't tell you exactly what about it,

580
00:25:01.670 --> 00:25:04.490
<v Speaker 1>but all the scores always filled me with dread. Like,

581
00:25:04.630 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 1>all the scores are very, all the music in this

582
00:25:06.700 --> 00:25:10.200
<v Speaker 1>movie is like, this isn't good. Like, whatever's happening, like,

583
00:25:10.579 --> 00:25:11.420
<v Speaker 1>I feel afraid.

584
00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:16.099
<v Speaker 3>I think the idea is like, it's starting, like, like,

585
00:25:16.220 --> 00:25:18.970
<v Speaker 3>the sound of it is, and it, it's amazing when

586
00:25:19.009 --> 00:25:21.289
<v Speaker 3>it goes out for a while and then comes back.

587
00:25:21.869 --> 00:25:24.509
<v Speaker 3>I think the idea is like, it's the idea, like

588
00:25:24.549 --> 00:25:26.869
<v Speaker 3>you just said, like, He sees the silver and he

589
00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:28.369
<v Speaker 3>doesn't give a shit that his leg is broken. It's

590
00:25:28.390 --> 00:25:31.190
<v Speaker 3>the starting of the sickness. Of like, oh, this is

591
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<v Speaker 3>the high I need.

592
00:25:32.230 --> 00:25:34.490
<v Speaker 2>I'm good. And the music represents.

593
00:25:34.069 --> 00:25:37.150
<v Speaker 3>Like, this is the battery that's going to charge him

594
00:25:37.190 --> 00:25:41.140
<v Speaker 3>the whole time. This is the first movie that... This

595
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:46.160
<v Speaker 3>is Johnny Greenwood from Radiohead scored with PTA. They've now

596
00:25:46.220 --> 00:25:48.079
<v Speaker 3>done pretty much every movie since.

597
00:25:48.440 --> 00:25:49.259
<v Speaker 1>The score is incredible.

598
00:25:49.319 --> 00:25:52.369
<v Speaker 3>The score is amazing. It was not even nominated for

599
00:25:52.410 --> 00:25:55.890
<v Speaker 3>any type of Oscar because the score... included pieces that

600
00:25:55.950 --> 00:25:59.089
<v Speaker 3>Johnny Greenwood had done before. So you couldn't use it

601
00:25:59.109 --> 00:26:01.349
<v Speaker 3>because it wasn't totally original. The score for this movie

602
00:26:01.369 --> 00:26:02.470
<v Speaker 3>is fucking amazing.

603
00:26:03.390 --> 00:26:07.049
<v Speaker 1>That's too bad. So now it is 1902 and Daniel

604
00:26:07.089 --> 00:26:10.069
<v Speaker 1>has an oil claim. He drops a spike in the

605
00:26:10.089 --> 00:26:13.250
<v Speaker 1>ground in a pit and oil comes up and he's very,

606
00:26:13.289 --> 00:26:15.869
<v Speaker 1>very happy. There's a man who's working with him that's

607
00:26:15.890 --> 00:26:16.690
<v Speaker 1>holding a baby.

608
00:26:16.710 --> 00:26:20.690
<v Speaker 2>I have to jump back. Sorry, you're one minute into

609
00:26:20.710 --> 00:26:22.779
<v Speaker 2>the movie. I just have to jump back. He pulls

610
00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:27.369
<v Speaker 2>himself out of this hole with a broken leg, with

611
00:26:27.410 --> 00:26:30.670
<v Speaker 2>a piece of silver in his shirt, and he's pushing

612
00:26:30.730 --> 00:26:34.500
<v Speaker 2>himself with one foot back to town, through the mountains.

613
00:26:35.779 --> 00:26:40.460
<v Speaker 2>It shows you him push off on the ground and like, alright,

614
00:26:40.480 --> 00:26:42.480
<v Speaker 2>this is going to take some time. But when I

615
00:26:42.539 --> 00:26:46.119
<v Speaker 2>get there, I've got three pounds of silver in my shirt,

616
00:26:46.619 --> 00:26:51.549
<v Speaker 2>and they show the silver miner place cutting him a

617
00:26:51.589 --> 00:26:52.089
<v Speaker 2>check for $ 400.

618
00:26:52.029 --> 00:26:52.109
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

619
00:26:53.490 --> 00:26:55.950
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, that's $ 400 for what he just put

620
00:26:55.990 --> 00:26:56.490
<v Speaker 2>in right there.

621
00:26:56.630 --> 00:26:59.089
<v Speaker 1>And he's laying on the ground with, like, a wood brace.

622
00:26:59.230 --> 00:26:59.549
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

623
00:26:59.690 --> 00:27:01.230
<v Speaker 1>That's probably not very effective.

624
00:27:01.329 --> 00:27:03.819
<v Speaker 3>But also in 1898, $ 400. Yeah.

625
00:27:05.039 --> 00:27:07.019
<v Speaker 2>And then, yeah, and they cut him a check, and

626
00:27:07.059 --> 00:27:10.039
<v Speaker 2>it's like, next step, oil.

627
00:27:10.740 --> 00:27:11.839
<v Speaker 3>The leg will fix itself.

628
00:27:12.380 --> 00:27:15.119
<v Speaker 1>So I love, like, Daniel is not one of the

629
00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.150
<v Speaker 1>type of guy. He's so driven. He's not one of

630
00:27:18.190 --> 00:27:21.539
<v Speaker 1>the types of guys that's like, okay, you two do

631
00:27:21.619 --> 00:27:23.720
<v Speaker 1>this for me because I'm not going to put myself

632
00:27:23.779 --> 00:27:29.420
<v Speaker 1>in danger. So Daniel is like in the hole, like

633
00:27:29.420 --> 00:27:32.220
<v Speaker 1>50 feet down in the ground with another dude, just

634
00:27:32.269 --> 00:27:35.670
<v Speaker 1>like getting oil out of the ground. And I thought like,

635
00:27:35.750 --> 00:27:38.250
<v Speaker 1>this can't be good to just work in this hole,

636
00:27:38.730 --> 00:27:42.150
<v Speaker 1>covered in, you're waist deep in oil, you're covered in oil.

637
00:27:43.650 --> 00:27:49.390
<v Speaker 1>And 1902, they're using wooden planks beams that are like

638
00:27:49.730 --> 00:27:57.940
<v Speaker 1>shoddily nailed together to lower down like heavy equipment. And shocker,

639
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:01.900
<v Speaker 1>the beams break and all the equipment comes tumbling down

640
00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.259
<v Speaker 1>the hole. And there's just a really quick moment where

641
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, how did they shoot this? Where the hole

642
00:28:07.319 --> 00:28:11.410
<v Speaker 1>is completely black. It's covered in oil. There's nothing else.

643
00:28:11.670 --> 00:28:13.809
<v Speaker 1>They're covered head to toe in oil. The walls are oil.

644
00:28:14.450 --> 00:28:16.970
<v Speaker 1>And when everything lands, you just see like a quick

645
00:28:17.069 --> 00:28:20.920
<v Speaker 1>spray of red. And Daniel gets up, he's totally fine.

646
00:28:20.980 --> 00:28:21.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

647
00:28:21.880 --> 00:28:23.779
<v Speaker 2>It missed him, it hit the other guy. Hit the

648
00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.599
<v Speaker 2>other guy. That's the situation he's in. He's, it's 50-50. Yeah.

649
00:28:27.259 --> 00:28:30.470
<v Speaker 2>I'm down in this hole, dropping a spike with this

650
00:28:30.529 --> 00:28:33.269
<v Speaker 2>guy over here who's my brother. Yeah. You know, and now,

651
00:28:33.650 --> 00:28:35.950
<v Speaker 2>but if some tools fall out of the sky and

652
00:28:36.009 --> 00:28:40.279
<v Speaker 2>he's dead, time to, you know, pull me out and

653
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>we struck oil. Yeah.

654
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.140
<v Speaker 3>Also, I think it's amazing the technology this time was...

655
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.859
<v Speaker 3>They just had buckets. They just strung up and pulled up. Yeah.

656
00:28:47.059 --> 00:28:48.559
<v Speaker 2>And they were pouring them into that small pit. Not

657
00:28:48.579 --> 00:28:49.220
<v Speaker 2>very efficient.

658
00:28:49.720 --> 00:28:52.039
<v Speaker 1>I think they had the technology to not do that,

659
00:28:52.079 --> 00:28:54.329
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think his operation was at that point.

660
00:28:54.769 --> 00:28:57.809
<v Speaker 3>But I think it's like a subtle idea of like...

661
00:28:58.509 --> 00:29:00.309
<v Speaker 3>The next time you see him, how much things have changed.

662
00:29:00.349 --> 00:29:02.569
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. We're at the very early stages.

663
00:29:02.589 --> 00:29:03.150
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

664
00:29:03.190 --> 00:29:03.309
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

665
00:29:04.009 --> 00:29:04.349
<v Speaker 1>This is.

666
00:29:04.390 --> 00:29:04.710
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

667
00:29:04.970 --> 00:29:07.990
<v Speaker 1>And the man who was killed was the guy who

668
00:29:08.009 --> 00:29:12.130
<v Speaker 1>was holding a baby earlier. So Daniel is... Takes the

669
00:29:12.150 --> 00:29:15.769
<v Speaker 1>guy's baby, is like bouncing it on his knee, and

670
00:29:15.789 --> 00:29:19.450
<v Speaker 1>then the baby's crying. He's probably teething. So he dips

671
00:29:19.509 --> 00:29:22.640
<v Speaker 1>a pacifier in whiskey. Whiskey is a big part of

672
00:29:22.660 --> 00:29:26.940
<v Speaker 1>this movie. And gives it to the baby. So it's

673
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:29.519
<v Speaker 1>kind of like, oh, does he feel bad? Does he

674
00:29:29.559 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 1>feel guilt? Is he adopting this baby?

675
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:33.009
<v Speaker 2>Someone's got to take care of this kid.

676
00:29:33.029 --> 00:29:35.390
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what are you going to do with the kid?

677
00:29:36.410 --> 00:29:40.029
<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of discussion about, did he only do...

678
00:29:40.059 --> 00:29:43.559
<v Speaker 1>this for business purposes? I agree with Kevin. Kevin just

679
00:29:43.579 --> 00:29:47.039
<v Speaker 1>did the so-so hand motion. We're not on video.

680
00:29:47.059 --> 00:29:48.099
<v Speaker 2>Oh, there's not a video? What?

681
00:29:48.420 --> 00:29:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I know.

682
00:29:48.859 --> 00:29:49.420
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh.

683
00:29:49.579 --> 00:29:51.500
<v Speaker 1>We installed cameras all over your ceiling.

684
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.099
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, I didn't want to jump out and say,

685
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, it's probably both. It's probably like, we've got

686
00:29:57.579 --> 00:30:00.839
<v Speaker 2>to do something with this kid. looking around at the options.

687
00:30:01.420 --> 00:30:02.740
<v Speaker 2>All right, the kid's coming with me to town.

688
00:30:03.660 --> 00:30:06.829
<v Speaker 1>Again, this is 1902, so he's going to do what

689
00:30:06.849 --> 00:30:11.049
<v Speaker 1>with it? If he sends this kid away, this kid's fucked.

690
00:30:11.509 --> 00:30:14.650
<v Speaker 2>He also has something there that nobody else has. He's

691
00:30:14.670 --> 00:30:18.670
<v Speaker 2>an oil man that has a five-year-old partner. Yes.

692
00:30:19.250 --> 00:30:21.230
<v Speaker 1>So part of it, I think, is for business purposes.

693
00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:24.579
<v Speaker 3>The shot on the train is just the most like,

694
00:30:25.849 --> 00:30:28.289
<v Speaker 3>soul-crushing thing when he has the baby and the baby's

695
00:30:28.309 --> 00:30:31.089
<v Speaker 3>just like touching his face you're just like oh no

696
00:30:31.529 --> 00:30:34.609
<v Speaker 3>yeah oh no but the weird thing is i'm actually

697
00:30:34.630 --> 00:30:36.250
<v Speaker 3>really glad because like i had not seen this since

698
00:30:36.269 --> 00:30:38.950
<v Speaker 3>it was in theaters this movie's whole perception is about

699
00:30:38.990 --> 00:30:41.890
<v Speaker 3>how like soulless daniel is and then re-watching i was

700
00:30:41.930 --> 00:30:45.299
<v Speaker 3>kind of like i actually think daniel genuinely loved hw.

701
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:47.980
<v Speaker 2>They're showing a scene there which is such a throwaway

702
00:30:48.099 --> 00:30:51.309
<v Speaker 2>four second scene where you're like Yeah, it's like, man,

703
00:30:51.390 --> 00:30:54.130
<v Speaker 2>this is, like, back then, you guys are on a

704
00:30:54.289 --> 00:30:57.809
<v Speaker 2>train now with this orphan to go do God knows what.

705
00:30:58.430 --> 00:31:00.910
<v Speaker 2>You know, and you're having to capture the moment we

706
00:31:00.950 --> 00:31:03.210
<v Speaker 2>had on the train. Outside of that, I'm staring out

707
00:31:03.259 --> 00:31:05.420
<v Speaker 2>the window, not talking, not looking at this kid at all.

708
00:31:05.640 --> 00:31:07.259
<v Speaker 3>But also, I think, too, like you just said, like,

709
00:31:07.859 --> 00:31:11.119
<v Speaker 3>what are they not showing you? Where, like, you said, like,

710
00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:13.660
<v Speaker 3>with Daniel, the leg was broken, probably had to fucking

711
00:31:13.779 --> 00:31:17.460
<v Speaker 3>crab walk 28 miles to get it cashed in. So

712
00:31:17.700 --> 00:31:19.220
<v Speaker 3>he took this kid and said, oh, well, this kid's

713
00:31:19.259 --> 00:31:21.259
<v Speaker 3>a good commodity. I'll sell it. He has to change

714
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:21.980
<v Speaker 3>this kid's diapers.

715
00:31:22.019 --> 00:31:22.460
<v Speaker 1>Exactly.

716
00:31:22.539 --> 00:31:25.140
<v Speaker 3>Do what you guys do every day. Yep. That's a

717
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:27.299
<v Speaker 3>lot of fucking work. Who's changing the diapers? If he

718
00:31:27.339 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 3>didn't give a shit, he probably did, especially Daniel, he'd

719
00:31:29.539 --> 00:31:31.940
<v Speaker 3>probably just throw him in a well and walk away.

720
00:31:31.960 --> 00:31:35.690
<v Speaker 1>So my big hot take, which apparently is not a

721
00:31:35.690 --> 00:31:37.990
<v Speaker 1>hot take because you just said it, is my notes

722
00:31:38.029 --> 00:31:41.609
<v Speaker 1>were like, Daniel is a good dad and Daniel loves

723
00:31:41.630 --> 00:31:45.130
<v Speaker 1>HW until the end. And I will defend Daniel's parenting

724
00:31:45.390 --> 00:31:46.809
<v Speaker 1>even when things get bad.

725
00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:51.880
<v Speaker 3>I think it's the idea of like, remember we saw

726
00:31:51.960 --> 00:31:55.369
<v Speaker 3>Zone of Interest? And Zone of Interest ends with the

727
00:31:55.410 --> 00:31:59.089
<v Speaker 3>guy who is the Nazi commander who runs the area

728
00:31:59.109 --> 00:32:01.829
<v Speaker 3>they're in. And he's going to puke but doesn't puke?

729
00:32:02.130 --> 00:32:02.309
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

730
00:32:02.589 --> 00:32:04.430
<v Speaker 3>And people interpret it as like, oh, that's like his

731
00:32:04.490 --> 00:32:06.910
<v Speaker 3>humanity because he talks to his wife that he went

732
00:32:06.930 --> 00:32:10.089
<v Speaker 3>to this Nazi party event. And she was like, how

733
00:32:10.130 --> 00:32:11.869
<v Speaker 3>was it? And he goes, all I could imagine was

734
00:32:12.250 --> 00:32:16.900
<v Speaker 3>how I'd gas everybody in the zone. The wife is

735
00:32:16.940 --> 00:32:19.380
<v Speaker 3>the villain of that movie. Yeah, she's terrible. But he

736
00:32:19.400 --> 00:32:23.140
<v Speaker 3>just says, I have now been so reprogrammed by what

737
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:25.579
<v Speaker 3>I do, all I could imagine was how I'd kill

738
00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:27.619
<v Speaker 3>everybody in this room. Even though there are people in

739
00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:30.700
<v Speaker 3>the Nazi party. I just thought, oh, this is what

740
00:32:30.720 --> 00:32:34.799
<v Speaker 3>this is like. You're watching someone who is deprogramming themselves,

741
00:32:34.980 --> 00:32:38.140
<v Speaker 3>but how all the cracks happen along the way. Fascinating.

742
00:32:39.220 --> 00:32:40.440
<v Speaker 1>This is the big famous speech.

743
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:42.329
<v Speaker 2>I'm an oil man. I'm an oil man.

744
00:32:43.009 --> 00:32:45.789
<v Speaker 1>Um, he's giving a speech to a group of people, uh,

745
00:32:46.690 --> 00:32:49.730
<v Speaker 1>in a town. I'm a family man. This is my partner, HW.

746
00:32:49.730 --> 00:32:52.930
<v Speaker 3>This is my son and my partner, which I love.

747
00:32:53.130 --> 00:32:53.490
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

748
00:32:53.869 --> 00:32:56.349
<v Speaker 1>Yes. And he's giving a speech to this town to

749
00:32:56.390 --> 00:32:58.990
<v Speaker 1>try to convince them to, to convince the town to

750
00:32:59.109 --> 00:32:59.910
<v Speaker 1>sell Daniel.

751
00:33:00.710 --> 00:33:03.150
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. To sell. They've, there's been some oil has come

752
00:33:03.190 --> 00:33:07.470
<v Speaker 2>to the surface or whatever. And there's probably, you know, 10,

753
00:33:07.460 --> 00:33:10.309
<v Speaker 2>20 groups of families, uh, That could potentially sell him

754
00:33:10.410 --> 00:33:15.390
<v Speaker 2>those plots or lease him a rig there, a couple rigs,

755
00:33:15.410 --> 00:33:17.309
<v Speaker 2>to see if he can strike oil. And he's trying

756
00:33:17.329 --> 00:33:19.269
<v Speaker 2>to get an answer from them on, you know, or

757
00:33:19.549 --> 00:33:25.250
<v Speaker 2>give them a presentation on going with him. And basically, like,

758
00:33:25.450 --> 00:33:28.740
<v Speaker 2>all the confusion in the meeting house, you know, he's

759
00:33:28.819 --> 00:33:30.819
<v Speaker 2>out now. He's like, this is not the way forward

760
00:33:30.859 --> 00:33:34.009
<v Speaker 2>is with all this confusion. Yeah. You know, I'll go.

761
00:33:34.019 --> 00:33:36.640
<v Speaker 2>I can see that. Yeah, no, that's it.

762
00:33:36.700 --> 00:33:39.099
<v Speaker 1>They're too educated for him. Like, he wants to sort

763
00:33:39.140 --> 00:33:43.069
<v Speaker 1>of swindle... Totally. He wants to swindle rubes. And these

764
00:33:43.109 --> 00:33:45.390
<v Speaker 1>people are educated, they're angry, they're debating.

765
00:33:45.410 --> 00:33:48.549
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, he wants to buy land where there's oil. Like,

766
00:33:48.589 --> 00:33:50.829
<v Speaker 2>can you do that with 40 different families that are

767
00:33:50.890 --> 00:33:52.410
<v Speaker 2>not aligned? Like, not really.

768
00:33:53.210 --> 00:33:55.569
<v Speaker 1>And it's also, at this point, it says 1911.

769
00:33:55.569 --> 00:33:55.789
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

770
00:33:56.730 --> 00:33:58.839
<v Speaker 1>So he's like, I'm done. I'm like, no, thank you.

771
00:33:58.859 --> 00:33:59.650
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for your time.

772
00:33:59.930 --> 00:34:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Can we also point out one part of this scene, too?

773
00:34:01.819 --> 00:34:05.609
<v Speaker 3>And again, we're millisecond picking this thing, but I love

774
00:34:05.730 --> 00:34:09.070
<v Speaker 3>when he starts talking and does his whole speech. The

775
00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:14.239
<v Speaker 3>camera just beelines to H.W. for the whole speech, and

776
00:34:14.260 --> 00:34:17.840
<v Speaker 3>then it just goes back to Daniel. I never noticed

777
00:34:17.860 --> 00:34:20.480
<v Speaker 3>that before. I was like, wow, this very famous speech

778
00:34:20.500 --> 00:34:23.079
<v Speaker 3>from this movie does really not feature him a lot.

779
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 2>And they just show H.W.

780
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:24.989
<v Speaker 3>'s face.

781
00:34:25.110 --> 00:34:25.889
<v Speaker 2>That was so interesting.

782
00:34:26.110 --> 00:34:29.909
<v Speaker 1>He mentions paying a $ 1, 000 bonus to a family, so

783
00:34:29.949 --> 00:34:32.409
<v Speaker 1>I did an inflation calculator, and that is about $ 35, 000.

784
00:34:32.289 --> 00:34:34.780
<v Speaker 2>Okay. Okay.

785
00:34:34.900 --> 00:34:37.280
<v Speaker 1>So he says you get a $ 35, 000 signing bonus and

786
00:34:37.300 --> 00:34:41.909
<v Speaker 1>you get one-sixth of the rights to the land. Like

787
00:34:41.969 --> 00:34:43.889
<v Speaker 1>if I make money, you get one-sixth.

788
00:34:43.909 --> 00:34:46.250
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if I make six million, you get one million.

789
00:34:46.489 --> 00:34:46.769
<v Speaker 3>Yes.

790
00:34:48.090 --> 00:34:51.030
<v Speaker 1>But then again, this is in 1911 where like these

791
00:34:51.090 --> 00:34:54.889
<v Speaker 1>contracts are not really followed. And like who knows if

792
00:34:54.929 --> 00:34:59.050
<v Speaker 1>you're ever going to get paid. So someone– he's talking

793
00:34:59.070 --> 00:35:00.889
<v Speaker 1>to this– I don't remember exactly. I think it's like

794
00:35:00.929 --> 00:35:03.739
<v Speaker 1>a couple– And they ask, where is your wife? Because

795
00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:07.070
<v Speaker 1>he has HW. And he says, my wife died in childbirth,

796
00:35:07.090 --> 00:35:08.789
<v Speaker 1>which is not true.

797
00:35:09.610 --> 00:35:13.389
<v Speaker 3>My note also was, brilliant response. No one will question you.

798
00:35:15.190 --> 00:35:17.130
<v Speaker 2>Well, no. So he left that meeting and he's like, okay,

799
00:35:17.150 --> 00:35:18.889
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to go meet with an individual family over

800
00:35:18.909 --> 00:35:21.159
<v Speaker 2>here and try to buy their land. And the guy's

801
00:35:21.179 --> 00:35:24.300
<v Speaker 2>sitting there with his wife kind of having a discussion.

802
00:35:24.659 --> 00:35:27.860
<v Speaker 2>And he's talking about buying land. And she's like, where's

803
00:35:27.900 --> 00:35:31.519
<v Speaker 2>this kid's mother? And he's just like, just to placate her.

804
00:35:33.510 --> 00:35:35.710
<v Speaker 2>Perfect thing to say. There's no recourse. No, no, no.

805
00:35:35.769 --> 00:35:37.789
<v Speaker 2>Because in 1911... They sold him the land.

806
00:35:37.809 --> 00:35:38.829
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

807
00:35:38.989 --> 00:35:42.409
<v Speaker 1>In 1911, that's totally reasonable. And also, like, wow, you're

808
00:35:42.429 --> 00:35:46.989
<v Speaker 1>an oil businessman, and your wife died, and you're raising

809
00:35:47.030 --> 00:35:49.769
<v Speaker 1>your son on your own? Like, what a great man

810
00:35:49.789 --> 00:35:50.289
<v Speaker 1>you are.

811
00:35:50.369 --> 00:35:52.949
<v Speaker 2>It just works out for you. Well, that's what I mean.

812
00:35:52.989 --> 00:35:56.429
<v Speaker 2>He's the only oil man that has a five-year-old he's

813
00:35:56.710 --> 00:35:58.449
<v Speaker 2>strutting around. Yep.

814
00:35:58.489 --> 00:36:00.929
<v Speaker 1>The rest of them are married, which is a huge mistake.

815
00:36:01.980 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 1>And then we are introduced to the one and only

816
00:36:05.380 --> 00:36:07.980
<v Speaker 1>Paul Dano, who we've made fun of many times in

817
00:36:08.000 --> 00:36:10.670
<v Speaker 1>this pod. Quentin Tarantino said he was a terrible actor.

818
00:36:11.110 --> 00:36:13.989
<v Speaker 1>Too much controversy. I think Paul Dano's great, but I

819
00:36:14.210 --> 00:36:17.429
<v Speaker 1>really hated his Riddler and the Batman with Robert Pattinson.

820
00:36:17.449 --> 00:36:20.349
<v Speaker 1>Did you see that one? No. That's the most recent

821
00:36:20.389 --> 00:36:23.409
<v Speaker 1>Batman movie. It's the Batman with Robert Pattinson. It's legitimately

822
00:36:23.449 --> 00:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>three hours long. Zoe Kravitz plays Catwoman, but he is

823
00:36:28.739 --> 00:36:31.119
<v Speaker 1>a lot in that movie.

824
00:36:31.780 --> 00:36:33.619
<v Speaker 2>And he's kind of a lot in this movie too

825
00:36:33.739 --> 00:36:34.460
<v Speaker 2>but there's.

826
00:36:34.860 --> 00:36:37.070
<v Speaker 1>It works you know also paul dano is playing a

827
00:36:37.090 --> 00:36:39.110
<v Speaker 1>character named paul daniel day lewis is playing a character

828
00:36:39.150 --> 00:36:44.969
<v Speaker 1>named daniel yeah um what if i told you paul

829
00:36:45.010 --> 00:36:46.659
<v Speaker 1>paul says what if i told you i know a

830
00:36:46.699 --> 00:36:49.300
<v Speaker 1>place where land could be bought cheaply but there's a

831
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.360
<v Speaker 1>lot of oil and then daniel says well tell me

832
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.780
<v Speaker 1>where the land is and we'll work something out awesome

833
00:36:56.610 --> 00:36:59.219
<v Speaker 1>Kieran Hines. Kieran Hines? Kieran Hines.

834
00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:01.269
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was Kieran. I could be wrong. Is it?

835
00:37:01.460 --> 00:37:05.260
<v Speaker 1>Kieran Hines? Maybe. He's an Irish actor. He's Daniel's right-hand

836
00:37:05.300 --> 00:37:06.059
<v Speaker 1>man in this movie.

837
00:37:06.079 --> 00:37:06.679
<v Speaker 2>He's incredible.

838
00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.039
<v Speaker 1>He's been in... He was in Munich. He played Julius

839
00:37:10.059 --> 00:37:13.530
<v Speaker 1>Caesar in Rome. He played Mance Rayder in Game of Thrones.

840
00:37:14.070 --> 00:37:14.230
<v Speaker 2>Um.

841
00:37:14.650 --> 00:37:17.230
<v Speaker 1>Who your sister's dogs are named after. Yes.

842
00:37:17.349 --> 00:37:22.070
<v Speaker 3>He's also the iconic character Steppenwolf from Justice League. Both versions.

843
00:37:23.210 --> 00:37:23.289
<v Speaker 5>Um.

844
00:37:23.949 --> 00:37:25.510
<v Speaker 1>Zack Snyder's Justice League, exactly.

845
00:37:25.530 --> 00:37:28.329
<v Speaker 3>He's also in Glasgow? No, sorry, Glasgow.

846
00:37:29.210 --> 00:37:29.630
<v Speaker 1>Belfast.

847
00:37:29.750 --> 00:37:30.389
<v Speaker 3>Belfast, sorry.

848
00:37:30.429 --> 00:37:31.260
<v Speaker 2>Jesus, my bad.

849
00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:33.800
<v Speaker 1>It's really, really good.

850
00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:41.769
<v Speaker 3>I love what Daniel says to Paul. He's like, here's $ 500.

851
00:37:41.699 --> 00:37:45.090
<v Speaker 3>You tell me something worth hearing and it's yours. But

852
00:37:45.119 --> 00:37:47.869
<v Speaker 3>also that's just such an insult because it's like, I

853
00:37:47.909 --> 00:37:48.869
<v Speaker 3>think you're so dumb.

854
00:37:49.190 --> 00:37:50.159
<v Speaker 2>This will just be enough for you.

855
00:37:51.059 --> 00:37:54.059
<v Speaker 1>Well, he came in, yeah, he came in there and

856
00:37:54.119 --> 00:37:55.090
<v Speaker 1>he was like 17 K.

857
00:37:55.179 --> 00:37:57.929
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Right. Well, he came, the kid came in there

858
00:37:57.949 --> 00:38:02.849
<v Speaker 2>and he wanted $ 500. Yeah. Um, and all he had

859
00:38:02.889 --> 00:38:05.969
<v Speaker 2>was information. This is a one-time transaction. If this, you know,

860
00:38:05.989 --> 00:38:09.900
<v Speaker 2>like I gotta, I gotta find someone to bite on this. Yeah. Um,

861
00:38:10.280 --> 00:38:12.460
<v Speaker 2>and he, he did, he, you know, he, he offered

862
00:38:12.500 --> 00:38:15.320
<v Speaker 2>him 500 and he's the kid started talking and Daniel

863
00:38:15.340 --> 00:38:19.090
<v Speaker 2>Day-Lewis is like, you know, he's now taking notes. He's like,

864
00:38:19.130 --> 00:38:21.110
<v Speaker 2>now you're giving me all the right information. Yeah. At

865
00:38:21.150 --> 00:38:23.730
<v Speaker 2>the end of that transaction, he's like, if you're, if

866
00:38:23.769 --> 00:38:27.289
<v Speaker 2>I travel to this shithole city and this, all the

867
00:38:27.329 --> 00:38:28.949
<v Speaker 2>information you told me isn't true.

868
00:38:28.969 --> 00:38:32.599
<v Speaker 1>Don't say that about little Boston. Little Boston.

869
00:38:32.619 --> 00:38:34.000
<v Speaker 2>You're a big fan of little Boston.

870
00:38:34.019 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Big fan of little Boston.

871
00:38:34.780 --> 00:38:37.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I didn't realize that. If I travel to

872
00:38:37.019 --> 00:38:38.980
<v Speaker 2>this city and everything you told me is not true,

873
00:38:39.340 --> 00:38:41.059
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to come back and basically I'm going to

874
00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>take my money and I'm going to kill you. Yeah.

875
00:38:42.460 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

876
00:38:44.250 --> 00:38:46.949
<v Speaker 1>He says, I think Paul asked him at this point,

877
00:38:46.969 --> 00:38:48.030
<v Speaker 1>what church do you belong to?

878
00:38:48.050 --> 00:38:48.889
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

879
00:38:49.010 --> 00:38:50.150
<v Speaker 1>And he says, what, Kevin?

880
00:38:50.610 --> 00:38:54.949
<v Speaker 2>He says, I love all faiths. I don't have a favorite.

881
00:38:55.530 --> 00:38:58.150
<v Speaker 1>It's like when people ask Trump, what's your favorite Bible passage?

882
00:38:58.170 --> 00:38:59.090
<v Speaker 1>And he said, all of them are good.

883
00:38:59.250 --> 00:38:59.929
<v Speaker 3>The whole book's great.

884
00:39:00.630 --> 00:39:02.889
<v Speaker 2>Both of them. Both testaments are fantastic.

885
00:39:02.949 --> 00:39:07.329
<v Speaker 1>And he's asking probing questions. And Paul's like, I'm not stupid.

886
00:39:07.369 --> 00:39:09.510
<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to answer these. And he says, are

887
00:39:11.260 --> 00:39:14.780
<v Speaker 1>there alkali deposits nearby or sulfur deposits? And Paul says,

888
00:39:14.800 --> 00:39:18.199
<v Speaker 1>there's definitely alkali, but I don't know about sulfur. And

889
00:39:18.219 --> 00:39:20.380
<v Speaker 1>then eventually he's like, okay, fine, I'm going to pay you.

890
00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:24.239
<v Speaker 1>And Paul says, it's in Little Boston. Paul Sunday is

891
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>his name. And they were like, what about the water there?

892
00:39:27.760 --> 00:39:30.579
<v Speaker 1>And Paul says, the water's really salty. and daniel's like

893
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:34.460
<v Speaker 1>oh that's good that's good um and then daniel decides

894
00:39:34.760 --> 00:39:37.539
<v Speaker 1>completely unrelated to oil he decides to go hunting for

895
00:39:37.579 --> 00:39:41.920
<v Speaker 1>quail wow weird yeah So, Kevin, you love this part.

896
00:39:41.940 --> 00:39:43.960
<v Speaker 1>So what does Daniel do at this point?

897
00:39:44.139 --> 00:39:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's great. Well, first of all, he rolls out

898
00:39:46.820 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 2>in a... What kind of car is that that he's

899
00:39:48.099 --> 00:39:49.880
<v Speaker 2>driving at that point? What kind of cars are there?

900
00:39:49.900 --> 00:39:50.750
<v Speaker 1>A Ford Model T.

901
00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:54.510
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, yeah, okay. So he's driving out there

902
00:39:54.610 --> 00:39:57.530
<v Speaker 2>in the nicest car that is made at the time

903
00:39:58.090 --> 00:40:01.949
<v Speaker 2>in wherever he was. Where was he before this? In Wisconsin?

904
00:40:01.969 --> 00:40:03.010
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know. Arizona?

905
00:40:03.349 --> 00:40:04.309
<v Speaker 3>When they were first talking?

906
00:40:04.329 --> 00:40:08.090
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Anyway, he's driving through the desert in the nicest

907
00:40:08.130 --> 00:40:10.400
<v Speaker 2>car they make at this time. parks in the middle

908
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:13.420
<v Speaker 2>of nowhere follows this kid's directions that he just bought

909
00:40:13.579 --> 00:40:16.960
<v Speaker 2>for $ 500 with his son with you know all the

910
00:40:16.980 --> 00:40:20.119
<v Speaker 2>gear for you know camping and quail hunting and you

911
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.969
<v Speaker 2>know robbing people blind and everything you need and he

912
00:40:24.030 --> 00:40:26.289
<v Speaker 2>walks through the little sheep passage and ends up at

913
00:40:26.329 --> 00:40:29.510
<v Speaker 2>these people's door who are the family of the kid

914
00:40:29.550 --> 00:40:31.690
<v Speaker 2>that had just come to meet with him who sold

915
00:40:31.769 --> 00:40:35.889
<v Speaker 2>out his family yeah the Sunday ranch and he he

916
00:40:35.949 --> 00:40:38.710
<v Speaker 2>tells the guy that's living there they're just there to

917
00:40:38.769 --> 00:40:42.139
<v Speaker 2>hunt and The guy welcomes them with open arms, gives

918
00:40:42.159 --> 00:40:45.519
<v Speaker 2>them a place, gives them goat milk, water, whatever, and

919
00:40:45.539 --> 00:40:48.550
<v Speaker 2>they go set off looking to see if there's oil

920
00:40:48.590 --> 00:40:49.360
<v Speaker 2>in these hills.

921
00:40:50.710 --> 00:40:52.969
<v Speaker 1>Sorry to interrupt you, but I think it's just adorable

922
00:40:53.010 --> 00:40:57.389
<v Speaker 1>that back at this time in 1911, if some stranger

923
00:40:57.409 --> 00:40:59.690
<v Speaker 1>showed up in your yard and they were like, Hi,

924
00:41:00.269 --> 00:41:02.590
<v Speaker 1>can you feed us dinner and we'll sleep.

925
00:41:02.449 --> 00:41:03.070
<v Speaker 3>In your yard?

926
00:41:03.110 --> 00:41:04.449
<v Speaker 1>And you're like, yes, that's fine.

927
00:41:04.769 --> 00:41:05.670
<v Speaker 2>You found the right place.

928
00:41:07.829 --> 00:41:12.780
<v Speaker 3>The family is so... I'll describe it best. Disgustingly nice.

929
00:41:13.340 --> 00:41:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

930
00:41:14.059 --> 00:41:16.550
<v Speaker 3>So they have that whole conversation about what we're doing,

931
00:41:16.570 --> 00:41:20.130
<v Speaker 3>what we're camping for, whatever. When Daniel and H.W. are

932
00:41:20.150 --> 00:41:22.550
<v Speaker 3>going to walk off to set up their camp, the

933
00:41:22.590 --> 00:41:25.690
<v Speaker 3>guy says off camera, I'm so sorry we don't have

934
00:41:25.730 --> 00:41:29.530
<v Speaker 3>any bread. I just go, I'm like, Daniel must be

935
00:41:29.550 --> 00:41:33.090
<v Speaker 3>just grinning because this guy is the definition of a

936
00:41:33.150 --> 00:41:36.389
<v Speaker 3>perfect mark. I showed up on his turf here to

937
00:41:36.449 --> 00:41:39.969
<v Speaker 3>invade and he's apologizing to me. Like insane.

938
00:41:40.650 --> 00:41:43.449
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking about not to totally go down a

939
00:41:44.329 --> 00:41:47.369
<v Speaker 1>crazy sidetrack, but I was thinking about like pro wrestling

940
00:41:47.469 --> 00:41:50.329
<v Speaker 1>and how these stories you hear from pro wrestlers, you

941
00:41:50.349 --> 00:41:52.670
<v Speaker 1>can never believe if they're true. And it's like, why

942
00:41:52.730 --> 00:41:56.010
<v Speaker 1>is that? And it's these people come from carnival culture.

943
00:41:56.070 --> 00:42:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Like they're liars. So Daniel is a very wealthy, legitimate,

944
00:42:01.219 --> 00:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>successful version of a snake oil salesman.

945
00:42:03.460 --> 00:42:03.619
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

946
00:42:04.019 --> 00:42:06.920
<v Speaker 2>He's controlling every situation he's in. Yeah.

947
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:10.030
<v Speaker 1>And, and the reason they don't have bread is they're like,

948
00:42:10.090 --> 00:42:12.150
<v Speaker 1>we can't, we don't have, we don't have milk.

949
00:42:12.269 --> 00:42:13.809
<v Speaker 2>He's like, no, of course you don't have bread because

950
00:42:13.849 --> 00:42:14.489
<v Speaker 2>of all the oil.

951
00:42:14.510 --> 00:42:14.969
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

952
00:42:15.210 --> 00:42:15.349
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

953
00:42:15.369 --> 00:42:18.340
<v Speaker 1>We can't, we can't, we can't, we can't grow, um,

954
00:42:18.739 --> 00:42:21.469
<v Speaker 1>grain to make bread. We don't have milk from cows

955
00:42:21.530 --> 00:42:23.119
<v Speaker 1>cause we can't feed the cows cause we can't grow

956
00:42:23.139 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 1>anything to feed them. And Daniel knows, Oh, this is

957
00:42:25.980 --> 00:42:28.820
<v Speaker 1>like the perfect terrain for oil. That's why you can't

958
00:42:28.860 --> 00:42:29.519
<v Speaker 1>grow anything.

959
00:42:29.559 --> 00:42:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

960
00:42:30.659 --> 00:42:37.079
<v Speaker 1>Um, and they meet. So Paul, they think it's Paul.

961
00:42:37.849 --> 00:42:38.329
<v Speaker 1>Approaches them.

962
00:42:38.349 --> 00:42:41.789
<v Speaker 2>It was a crazy scene to re-watch the last 16

963
00:42:41.789 --> 00:42:44.429
<v Speaker 2>times I've seen this movie. Paul Dano approaches them. At first,

964
00:42:44.530 --> 00:42:47.969
<v Speaker 2>even as the person watching the movie, you go, the

965
00:42:48.030 --> 00:42:50.050
<v Speaker 2>same kid that sold him the land is now working

966
00:42:50.090 --> 00:42:53.670
<v Speaker 2>at this farm again? Yeah, yeah. That's what it is,

967
00:42:54.269 --> 00:42:56.750
<v Speaker 2>but they're playing a trick just on the person watching.

968
00:42:56.929 --> 00:42:59.239
<v Speaker 2>You have to be following what's going on here. And

969
00:42:59.340 --> 00:43:04.840
<v Speaker 2>even they exchange glances, H.W. and Daniel Day-Lewis, and the

970
00:43:04.900 --> 00:43:07.719
<v Speaker 2>kid is showing like, I think I understand what just

971
00:43:07.739 --> 00:43:10.989
<v Speaker 2>happened here. This freak has a twin brother. Like how

972
00:43:11.030 --> 00:43:12.989
<v Speaker 2>many of those do you see back then?

973
00:43:13.010 --> 00:43:14.650
<v Speaker 3>At that time of like the world, like you're like,

974
00:43:14.829 --> 00:43:16.369
<v Speaker 3>how many twins have you seen?

975
00:43:16.630 --> 00:43:18.610
<v Speaker 2>Zero. That was the only twins.

976
00:43:18.650 --> 00:43:19.769
<v Speaker 3>You can't imagine that's real.

977
00:43:19.789 --> 00:43:20.010
<v Speaker 2>Right.

978
00:43:20.090 --> 00:43:20.869
<v Speaker 3>It's like, wait, what?

979
00:43:21.329 --> 00:43:23.349
<v Speaker 1>So he approaches them and he goes like, hi. And

980
00:43:23.409 --> 00:43:26.170
<v Speaker 1>they're looking at him like, hello, Paul. But they don't

981
00:43:26.210 --> 00:43:29.159
<v Speaker 1>say anything. And he goes, I'm Eli. And they go, oh,

982
00:43:29.219 --> 00:43:30.619
<v Speaker 1>this is the brother he mentioned.

983
00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

984
00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:34.940
<v Speaker 1>So they just play it cool. And they go like, oh, hello,

985
00:43:35.039 --> 00:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm quail hunting with my family. And they go to

986
00:43:41.420 --> 00:43:45.909
<v Speaker 1>dinner with the family in their home, and Daniel's like,

987
00:43:45.989 --> 00:43:49.170
<v Speaker 1>you have a lovely property, I want to hunt quail here.

988
00:43:50.929 --> 00:43:54.789
<v Speaker 1>And he says, I will give you $ 3, 700 for this

989
00:43:54.829 --> 00:43:55.750
<v Speaker 1>property in your land.

990
00:43:55.809 --> 00:43:58.849
<v Speaker 2>Well, they went out hunting first, and H.W. tripped over

991
00:43:58.909 --> 00:44:00.590
<v Speaker 2>some oil that was coming out of the ground.

992
00:44:00.610 --> 00:44:01.179
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's true.

993
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:04.219
<v Speaker 2>And so they're like, they're high-fiving Daniel. while they're on

994
00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:05.900
<v Speaker 2>their quail hunting trip. And then they're like, all right,

995
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:07.000
<v Speaker 2>let's go have dinner with these people.

996
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>So Eli says, no, we're not going to do a 3,700.

997
00:44:10.900 --> 00:44:14.050
<v Speaker 1>There's oil on this land and we want $ 10, 000. And

998
00:44:14.219 --> 00:44:16.769
<v Speaker 1>I want you to donate it to the church. I

999
00:44:16.809 --> 00:44:19.170
<v Speaker 1>want $ 5, 000 for the land and 5,000 for the church.

1000
00:44:19.909 --> 00:44:25.090
<v Speaker 1>And so that would be about 350 K roughly. So

1001
00:44:25.250 --> 00:44:28.309
<v Speaker 1>not bad. And, um, Daniel's like, sure.

1002
00:44:28.360 --> 00:44:28.590
<v Speaker 3>Fine.

1003
00:44:28.610 --> 00:44:31.579
<v Speaker 1>And then Eli wants to pray with them and they

1004
00:44:31.619 --> 00:44:34.829
<v Speaker 1>hold hands. And you can tell that Daniel's like, praying

1005
00:44:34.869 --> 00:44:39.030
<v Speaker 1>type at this point you see the yank right yeah

1006
00:44:39.170 --> 00:44:41.309
<v Speaker 1>yeah he's not all he's all first of all he's

1007
00:44:41.329 --> 00:44:44.250
<v Speaker 1>not a hold hands guy no kevin you're not a

1008
00:44:44.250 --> 00:44:45.070
<v Speaker 1>hold hands guy.

1009
00:44:44.909 --> 00:44:47.610
<v Speaker 2>I learned that i learned that the hard way i

1010
00:44:47.630 --> 00:44:49.469
<v Speaker 2>mean i don't know if i'm a hardcore no hand

1011
00:44:49.489 --> 00:44:51.570
<v Speaker 2>holding guy but you know do you hold hands with

1012
00:44:51.590 --> 00:44:55.349
<v Speaker 2>megan occasionally do you i'm a big like holding hands

1013
00:44:55.369 --> 00:44:58.780
<v Speaker 2>with my daughter guy but not like with other humans

1014
00:45:00.449 --> 00:45:03.630
<v Speaker 2>like who are my options to hold hands with megan Okay, no,

1015
00:45:03.639 --> 00:45:05.849
<v Speaker 2>but I mean, like, who else, like, what would really

1016
00:45:05.869 --> 00:45:07.670
<v Speaker 2>impress you, someone else that I'm holding hands with?

1017
00:45:07.690 --> 00:45:07.989
<v Speaker 3>Ryan.

1018
00:45:08.469 --> 00:45:09.170
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, oh, yeah.

1019
00:45:09.369 --> 00:45:12.289
<v Speaker 3>Me? Yep, here you go. Oh.

1020
00:45:12.929 --> 00:45:14.150
<v Speaker 1>Can we record the whole podcast?

1021
00:45:14.309 --> 00:45:17.309
<v Speaker 2>Well, the thing is, Ryan went open hand, Tim went

1022
00:45:17.369 --> 00:45:17.929
<v Speaker 2>five fingers.

1023
00:45:18.150 --> 00:45:19.949
<v Speaker 1>So we should make this, I want to make this

1024
00:45:19.989 --> 00:45:22.530
<v Speaker 1>the photo of the pod. That's not necessary. So I

1025
00:45:22.570 --> 00:45:26.610
<v Speaker 1>have tiny little baby hands, and Kevin has enormous NFL

1026
00:45:26.630 --> 00:45:29.210
<v Speaker 1>linebacker hands. I want to, can we, can't do this?

1027
00:45:29.449 --> 00:45:30.869
<v Speaker 2>Visually? What do you want to do? Sure.

1028
00:45:30.929 --> 00:45:31.789
<v Speaker 1>I want to go hand to hand.

1029
00:45:33.429 --> 00:45:34.170
<v Speaker 2>Holy shit.

1030
00:45:35.289 --> 00:45:38.230
<v Speaker 3>Oh, my God.

1031
00:45:38.389 --> 00:45:44.150
<v Speaker 1>I'm, like, such a pathetic, like, weak... I'm such a weak,

1032
00:45:44.349 --> 00:45:47.190
<v Speaker 1>pathetic little... This is, like, a father and daughter... This

1033
00:45:47.210 --> 00:45:49.329
<v Speaker 1>is me and Cece. What happened? This is me and Cece.

1034
00:45:49.449 --> 00:45:51.590
<v Speaker 2>What did you do? Whatever makes you happy. What did

1035
00:45:52.210 --> 00:45:53.650
<v Speaker 2>you eat? What did I eat?

1036
00:45:53.809 --> 00:45:54.369
<v Speaker 3>Oh, God.

1037
00:45:54.750 --> 00:45:56.380
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna make this a photo of the... This

1038
00:45:56.449 --> 00:46:00.360
<v Speaker 1>is disgusting. This is something wrong with the person who

1039
00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:08.210
<v Speaker 1>has these hands. Anyways, um... so uh okay go ahead so.

1040
00:46:08.170 --> 00:46:10.559
<v Speaker 3>Recording yeah sorry yeah of course pause for the photo

1041
00:46:11.400 --> 00:46:15.719
<v Speaker 3>when they pull the hand away that's when the business

1042
00:46:15.760 --> 00:46:17.239
<v Speaker 3>starts now here we go.

1043
00:46:17.360 --> 00:46:20.179
<v Speaker 2>The music i wouldn't even describe the music as music

1044
00:46:20.260 --> 00:46:22.760
<v Speaker 2>like with music you this is all it's it was

1045
00:46:22.820 --> 00:46:24.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of again like playing tricks on you because it's

1046
00:46:24.900 --> 00:46:28.139
<v Speaker 2>just like it's just it's hitting a different chord in

1047
00:46:28.179 --> 00:46:30.630
<v Speaker 2>your in your brain at least the energy Yeah, the

1048
00:46:30.650 --> 00:46:33.710
<v Speaker 2>weird energy. I hated it, but it's also, it's like

1049
00:46:33.750 --> 00:46:35.469
<v Speaker 2>very fitting for the movie.

1050
00:46:35.550 --> 00:46:38.969
<v Speaker 3>It's like the curdling is starting. Yeah, oh man.

1051
00:46:38.989 --> 00:46:40.929
<v Speaker 1>The curdling is very true.

1052
00:46:41.010 --> 00:46:43.960
<v Speaker 2>It's also, you're thinking to yourself like, oh God, I

1053
00:46:43.980 --> 00:46:47.519
<v Speaker 2>hope this doesn't get too much worse than this. Because

1054
00:46:47.539 --> 00:46:48.500
<v Speaker 2>this is already like.

1055
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Sure does.

1056
00:46:49.139 --> 00:46:51.500
<v Speaker 3>But also, when the music kind of like, we'll see

1057
00:46:51.539 --> 00:46:54.780
<v Speaker 3>it later, but when the music is so good, like building, building, building,

1058
00:46:54.820 --> 00:46:57.960
<v Speaker 3>and then like, when the music doesn't melt, I'll describe

1059
00:46:57.980 --> 00:47:00.130
<v Speaker 3>it that way, it's like, It is right because it's

1060
00:47:00.210 --> 00:47:03.849
<v Speaker 3>not so much like melting for tragedy or melting for sadness.

1061
00:47:03.889 --> 00:47:06.329
<v Speaker 3>It's more just like, oh, man, this.

1062
00:47:06.250 --> 00:47:07.090
<v Speaker 2>Is just– The pace.

1063
00:47:07.269 --> 00:47:08.010
<v Speaker 3>It's just getting better.

1064
00:47:08.030 --> 00:47:10.489
<v Speaker 2>It keeps up with the pace. It's brutal.

1065
00:47:10.750 --> 00:47:12.929
<v Speaker 1>So next he goes to the real estate agent in

1066
00:47:12.949 --> 00:47:15.329
<v Speaker 1>town who's played by the legend Jim Downey.

1067
00:47:15.409 --> 00:47:15.829
<v Speaker 3>Let's go.

1068
00:47:15.869 --> 00:47:18.570
<v Speaker 1>Who is the head– He's from Billy Madison, the game

1069
00:47:18.590 --> 00:47:22.079
<v Speaker 1>show host. He's the head writer on SNL for decades.

1070
00:47:22.539 --> 00:47:26.800
<v Speaker 1>He's amazing. He co-wrote Weekend Update with Norm MacDonald, a

1071
00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:30.929
<v Speaker 1>great Conor O'Brien podcast– Hilarious. With Jim Downey.

1072
00:47:31.050 --> 00:47:32.969
<v Speaker 3>Oh, my God. So funny.

1073
00:47:33.010 --> 00:47:35.630
<v Speaker 1>One of my favorite parts of that podcast is they're

1074
00:47:35.650 --> 00:47:39.789
<v Speaker 1>talking about something, finances or something, and Jim Downey says, Conan,

1075
00:47:39.809 --> 00:47:42.989
<v Speaker 1>do you know Jeffrey Epstein, the New York financier? And

1076
00:47:43.010 --> 00:47:48.340
<v Speaker 1>then Conan goes, Jeffrey Epstein, yes. The man who's arrested

1077
00:47:48.360 --> 00:47:51.900
<v Speaker 1>for sex trafficking? And then Downey just acts really confused

1078
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:54.840
<v Speaker 1>and goes, no, I'm talking about he's a finance guy,

1079
00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.139
<v Speaker 1>the New York financier. I don't think you got in

1080
00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:59.099
<v Speaker 1>any trouble for that. And Conan was like, he very

1081
00:47:59.159 --> 00:48:01.460
<v Speaker 1>much did. And he was like, I think you're talking

1082
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:01.989
<v Speaker 1>about something else.

1083
00:48:02.070 --> 00:48:02.409
<v Speaker 2>Hold on.

1084
00:48:02.469 --> 00:48:05.469
<v Speaker 1>Let me call my friend Ghislaine Maxwell and we'll settle

1085
00:48:05.489 --> 00:48:07.050
<v Speaker 1>this once and for all. And then Conan goes, don't

1086
00:48:07.090 --> 00:48:08.010
<v Speaker 1>call Ghislaine Maxwell.

1087
00:48:08.030 --> 00:48:12.530
<v Speaker 3>I love, uh, Gourley on that show, one of the co-hosts.

1088
00:48:12.789 --> 00:48:13.010
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1089
00:48:13.110 --> 00:48:16.099
<v Speaker 3>Has his own show. And to, he always talks about

1090
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:19.039
<v Speaker 3>his own show. How about how like, he's like, my

1091
00:48:19.239 --> 00:48:22.590
<v Speaker 3>face was hurting. Cause like you were like, You just

1092
00:48:22.670 --> 00:48:24.300
<v Speaker 3>truly didn't believe if he knew if it was real

1093
00:48:24.340 --> 00:48:24.679
<v Speaker 3>or not.

1094
00:48:24.760 --> 00:48:25.679
<v Speaker 2>Like, it was amazing.

1095
00:48:26.179 --> 00:48:27.800
<v Speaker 1>But anyways, he's Al.

1096
00:48:28.159 --> 00:48:28.300
<v Speaker 5>Al?

1097
00:48:28.579 --> 00:48:28.719
<v Speaker 3>Al.

1098
00:48:28.780 --> 00:48:29.019
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1099
00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:30.960
<v Speaker 1>And he's like.

1100
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:34.780
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he's literally only in the movie for maybe

1101
00:48:35.019 --> 00:48:36.280
<v Speaker 2>three minutes. Is that tops?

1102
00:48:36.340 --> 00:48:37.820
<v Speaker 3>In total, but spread out.

1103
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:39.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, spread out. I mean, so he's not... But he

1104
00:48:39.940 --> 00:48:42.449
<v Speaker 2>had like one of the... How do you have one

1105
00:48:42.469 --> 00:48:44.090
<v Speaker 2>of the biggest roles in the movie when you're in

1106
00:48:44.110 --> 00:48:44.829
<v Speaker 2>it for three minutes?

1107
00:48:44.849 --> 00:48:46.409
<v Speaker 3>Well, this... It's funny. When you look at the Wikipedia,

1108
00:48:46.449 --> 00:48:48.570
<v Speaker 3>this movie's cast is what, like 14 people?

1109
00:48:48.849 --> 00:48:49.090
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

1110
00:48:49.360 --> 00:48:52.519
<v Speaker 3>Total it's very small for speaking roles yeah and.

1111
00:48:52.440 --> 00:48:54.550
<v Speaker 2>They said there was only two scenes that daniel day

1112
00:48:54.590 --> 00:48:57.030
<v Speaker 2>lewis was not in um.

1113
00:48:58.530 --> 00:49:00.710
<v Speaker 1>Uh one is when they flash back to the peach

1114
00:49:00.750 --> 00:49:03.469
<v Speaker 1>tree dance and then what's the other what's.

1115
00:49:03.309 --> 00:49:06.650
<v Speaker 3>The other scene you're jumping ahead.

1116
00:49:06.750 --> 00:49:09.590
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah hw and mary so he says uh yeah

1117
00:49:09.630 --> 00:49:11.909
<v Speaker 1>this this jim down is a real estate agent this

1118
00:49:11.929 --> 00:49:13.449
<v Speaker 1>could be got this could be got this could be

1119
00:49:13.489 --> 00:49:17.090
<v Speaker 1>got and daniel says is there anything can everything around

1120
00:49:17.130 --> 00:49:18.469
<v Speaker 1>here be got and he says sure.

1121
00:49:18.940 --> 00:49:22.320
<v Speaker 2>This real estate agent is ready to sell out the

1122
00:49:22.380 --> 00:49:24.400
<v Speaker 2>entire town for a commission check.

1123
00:49:24.539 --> 00:49:28.900
<v Speaker 1>That's his job. And so then these oil guys arrive

1124
00:49:28.940 --> 00:49:32.539
<v Speaker 1>by train because they heard about this. But Daniel's already

1125
00:49:32.940 --> 00:49:35.579
<v Speaker 1>all over it. He's been there. And this guy, Gene,

1126
00:49:35.619 --> 00:49:39.000
<v Speaker 1>he runs into. And I love this. Because this is like,

1127
00:49:39.059 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 1>I kind of experienced this in my job because I

1128
00:49:41.699 --> 00:49:44.039
<v Speaker 1>will go to an event for one of my clients

1129
00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:47.659
<v Speaker 1>and the people at my role at other companies will

1130
00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:49.659
<v Speaker 1>be at the same event and then they'll like awkwardly

1131
00:49:49.679 --> 00:49:53.010
<v Speaker 1>talk to me. So he sees Gene and he was like, Gene,

1132
00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:55.150
<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, if you're looking for oil, you got

1133
00:49:55.170 --> 00:49:58.449
<v Speaker 1>to go east. And you're like, nope, like go west.

1134
00:49:58.590 --> 00:50:01.250
<v Speaker 1>If Daniel's telling you to go east, go west. And

1135
00:50:01.289 --> 00:50:03.500
<v Speaker 1>he says, I don't want the other guys to get it.

1136
00:50:03.570 --> 00:50:05.429
<v Speaker 1>If it was anybody that would get it other than me,

1137
00:50:05.489 --> 00:50:07.940
<v Speaker 1>I'd want it to be you, Gene. And then Gene

1138
00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:11.429
<v Speaker 1>says to HW, Hey, don't get swindled by your dad.

1139
00:50:12.969 --> 00:50:14.349
<v Speaker 3>He might be the only person who cares about his.

1140
00:50:15.510 --> 00:50:17.019
<v Speaker 1>No, Kieran Hines definitely did.

1141
00:50:17.039 --> 00:50:17.469
<v Speaker 3>He definitely did.

1142
00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:20.619
<v Speaker 2>It's actually heartbreaking to watch. The visuals of this, though,

1143
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:25.800
<v Speaker 2>just even the costumes and the way the train's coming in,

1144
00:50:25.860 --> 00:50:30.320
<v Speaker 2>it's super old-looking, 100 years old-looking. Oh, my God. And again,

1145
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:35.889
<v Speaker 2>this is a throwaway scene that transforms you into a

1146
00:50:35.929 --> 00:50:38.349
<v Speaker 2>place where you're like, you can smell the freaking smoke

1147
00:50:38.369 --> 00:50:39.510
<v Speaker 2>coming off the train in this scene.

1148
00:50:39.610 --> 00:50:40.710
<v Speaker 3>You can feel the movie.

1149
00:50:40.809 --> 00:50:41.210
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

1150
00:50:41.230 --> 00:50:45.260
<v Speaker 1>You know how you and I totally... Like, completely hypnotized

1151
00:50:45.300 --> 00:50:47.179
<v Speaker 1>Kevin and got him into Ari Aster.

1152
00:50:47.280 --> 00:50:47.460
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1153
00:50:47.780 --> 00:50:49.679
<v Speaker 1>I think a director that we need to get Kevin

1154
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:50.639
<v Speaker 1>into is Robert Eggers.

1155
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:51.969
<v Speaker 2>Oh, you'll love it.

1156
00:50:52.829 --> 00:50:54.510
<v Speaker 1>The attention to detail is psychotic.

1157
00:50:54.570 --> 00:50:57.010
<v Speaker 3>I think, maybe also, too, like, I was thinking, like,

1158
00:50:57.090 --> 00:50:59.050
<v Speaker 3>watching this movie made me think of the proposition with, like,

1159
00:50:59.210 --> 00:51:02.489
<v Speaker 3>early John Hillcoat, where, like, the proposition is, like... Have

1160
00:51:02.510 --> 00:51:02.769
<v Speaker 3>you ever.

1161
00:51:02.699 --> 00:51:04.260
<v Speaker 1>Seen The Proposition? It's a Western.

1162
00:51:04.280 --> 00:51:04.980
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so.

1163
00:51:05.079 --> 00:51:05.699
<v Speaker 1>It's so good.

1164
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:08.280
<v Speaker 3>The music alone makes you feel dirty.

1165
00:51:08.619 --> 00:51:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

1166
00:51:09.099 --> 00:51:11.019
<v Speaker 3>The movie is so filthy.

1167
00:51:11.760 --> 00:51:12.639
<v Speaker 2>It's great. So.

1168
00:51:13.710 --> 00:51:17.210
<v Speaker 1>So then Al says to Daniel, we got to buy

1169
00:51:17.230 --> 00:51:20.090
<v Speaker 1>the bandit tract. The bandit tract, he's a holdout.

1170
00:51:20.340 --> 00:51:21.039
<v Speaker 2>You're going to want that.

1171
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.159
<v Speaker 1>You're going to want that. He wants to talk to you.

1172
00:51:23.340 --> 00:51:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And then Daniel's like, I'm not going to talk to him.

1173
00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:27.300
<v Speaker 1>He can come to me. He'll want to buy just

1174
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:29.880
<v Speaker 1>like everybody. He'll want to sell just like everybody else.

1175
00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:35.019
<v Speaker 1>So he's giving a speech. And I think this is

1176
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.469
<v Speaker 1>really important because Daniel, as you'll come to find out,

1177
00:51:38.869 --> 00:51:44.190
<v Speaker 1>not a huge fan of humans. of relationships of like

1178
00:51:44.590 --> 00:51:47.269
<v Speaker 1>being a part of a community and when he's selling

1179
00:51:47.309 --> 00:51:50.079
<v Speaker 1>the people here in the scene in the town he's

1180
00:51:50.159 --> 00:51:52.360
<v Speaker 1>he's not like hey we're gonna get oil and you're

1181
00:51:52.380 --> 00:51:54.639
<v Speaker 1>all gonna get money that's not what he's saying he's

1182
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:57.980
<v Speaker 1>saying once we get the oil and the money comes

1183
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 1>in we're gonna build a school we're gonna build an

1184
00:52:00.940 --> 00:52:04.010
<v Speaker 1>irrigation system you can have grain you can have bread

1185
00:52:04.070 --> 00:52:07.710
<v Speaker 1>he's selling them on like your town and community you'll

1186
00:52:07.730 --> 00:52:12.000
<v Speaker 1>all be happier and closer and better and and it's

1187
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:16.420
<v Speaker 1>all bullshit. He's not going to build a fucking irrigation system.

1188
00:52:16.579 --> 00:52:19.980
<v Speaker 2>Who was trying to sell the monorail to Springfield?

1189
00:52:20.780 --> 00:52:23.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's based on a movie called The Music Man,

1190
00:52:23.619 --> 00:52:27.909
<v Speaker 1>but I have a note that he literally, literally right here,

1191
00:52:28.309 --> 00:52:29.250
<v Speaker 1>Lyle Landley.

1192
00:52:29.929 --> 00:52:30.369
<v Speaker 2>Amazing.

1193
00:52:30.489 --> 00:52:32.969
<v Speaker 1>I wrote that right there. The monorail, this is written

1194
00:52:33.010 --> 00:52:33.469
<v Speaker 1>by Conan O'Brien.

1195
00:52:33.489 --> 00:52:35.210
<v Speaker 2>Because that was Phil Hartman did that, right?

1196
00:52:35.369 --> 00:52:39.730
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Lyle Landley goes to Springfield to sell them on

1197
00:52:39.750 --> 00:52:42.389
<v Speaker 1>the monorail. And I wrote right here, you can see it,

1198
00:52:43.079 --> 00:52:44.460
<v Speaker 1>Daniel is Lyle Landley.

1199
00:52:44.500 --> 00:52:48.469
<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. It's amazing. Because even in, they were making

1200
00:52:48.510 --> 00:52:50.409
<v Speaker 2>a mockery of that in The Simpsons where they were

1201
00:52:50.429 --> 00:52:52.190
<v Speaker 2>making it so over the top. But it reminds me,

1202
00:52:52.230 --> 00:52:54.429
<v Speaker 2>I have to tell this. A friend of mine was,

1203
00:52:55.110 --> 00:52:58.989
<v Speaker 2>he told me the story of buying a condo in

1204
00:52:59.110 --> 00:53:05.059
<v Speaker 2>Museum Way in Cambridge in like the late 90s. Okay.

1205
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:08.659
<v Speaker 2>And the presentation that they got, this is now over by,

1206
00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:12.460
<v Speaker 2>it's like, it's like a quarter mile up the Zaken Bridge. Okay.

1207
00:53:12.820 --> 00:53:16.289
<v Speaker 2>This presentation they had, he said it showed like a pinwheel,

1208
00:53:16.670 --> 00:53:19.489
<v Speaker 2>like a monorail taking you from the city back and forth.

1209
00:53:19.889 --> 00:53:23.030
<v Speaker 2>This is 25 years ago. This just still isn't there now. Yeah.

1210
00:53:23.070 --> 00:53:26.170
<v Speaker 2>But the implication was when you're seeing that is this,

1211
00:53:26.650 --> 00:53:29.230
<v Speaker 2>you're going to be so far from where you want

1212
00:53:29.250 --> 00:53:30.590
<v Speaker 2>to be that we're going to have to build an

1213
00:53:30.630 --> 00:53:33.400
<v Speaker 2>infrastructure to get you there just for you to be

1214
00:53:34.639 --> 00:53:36.179
<v Speaker 2>content living out here.

1215
00:53:36.219 --> 00:53:37.460
<v Speaker 3>Hey guys, the future's already here.

1216
00:53:39.179 --> 00:53:43.039
<v Speaker 1>And, uh, Eli asks, this is so the monorail guy.

1217
00:53:43.079 --> 00:53:45.489
<v Speaker 1>He goes, will the road you're building lead to the church?

1218
00:53:45.570 --> 00:53:47.869
<v Speaker 1>And he says, that's the first place it'll lead to.

1219
00:53:48.030 --> 00:53:51.590
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And also, the end of the monorail song is

1220
00:53:51.630 --> 00:53:54.949
<v Speaker 2>the best part by far, which is monorail, monorail, monorail.

1221
00:53:56.289 --> 00:54:01.460
<v Speaker 1>Mono-do. Main Street's still all cracked and broken. Sorry, Mom,

1222
00:54:01.500 --> 00:54:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the mob has spoken.

1223
00:54:02.420 --> 00:54:06.119
<v Speaker 2>Homer misses. The mob has spoken. I forgot Homer missed

1224
00:54:06.159 --> 00:54:06.579
<v Speaker 2>the line.

1225
00:54:06.599 --> 00:54:13.409
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, mono-do. Homer being the monorail conductor Dad I

1226
00:54:13.489 --> 00:54:18.309
<v Speaker 1>opened up the breaker panel in your monorail booth and

1227
00:54:18.329 --> 00:54:20.590
<v Speaker 1>it was filled with a family of possums and then

1228
00:54:20.639 --> 00:54:24.139
<v Speaker 1>Homer says I call the big one bitey bitey so

1229
00:54:24.159 --> 00:54:25.679
<v Speaker 1>you know he's messed with it and it bit him

1230
00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:30.280
<v Speaker 1>but when they start to object Lyle Landley says sorry

1231
00:54:30.340 --> 00:54:33.300
<v Speaker 1>this is more of a Shelbyville idea and they go like.

1232
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.949
<v Speaker 2>No no no do you remember what was the line

1233
00:54:36.969 --> 00:54:38.289
<v Speaker 2>that that episode ended with.

1234
00:54:39.670 --> 00:54:42.829
<v Speaker 1>That the episode ended with. I don't know.

1235
00:54:43.510 --> 00:54:44.590
<v Speaker 2>Ryguy? Not sure.

1236
00:54:45.289 --> 00:54:47.550
<v Speaker 3>He's way better than me with Simpsons stuff, yeah.

1237
00:54:48.469 --> 00:54:51.050
<v Speaker 2>I could be mistaken, but I think Homer throws the

1238
00:54:51.090 --> 00:54:53.170
<v Speaker 2>hook out the window to stop the monorail and catches

1239
00:54:53.210 --> 00:54:53.829
<v Speaker 2>in the donut.

1240
00:54:54.010 --> 00:54:54.230
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1241
00:54:54.449 --> 00:54:58.070
<v Speaker 2>And he says, donuts, is there anything they can't do?

1242
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:00.599
<v Speaker 1>That is not the last. I believe that when the

1243
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:03.260
<v Speaker 1>outro is Marge is saying, and that's the last mistake

1244
00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:06.949
<v Speaker 1>Springfield ever made, Until they did this. And they showed

1245
00:55:06.969 --> 00:55:08.989
<v Speaker 1>some other horrible thing that they did right after.

1246
00:55:09.010 --> 00:55:11.449
<v Speaker 2>You're probably right. Definitely right.

1247
00:55:11.789 --> 00:55:14.090
<v Speaker 1>Going back to Batman for a second. And a fucking

1248
00:55:14.130 --> 00:55:17.269
<v Speaker 1>amazing line in that episode. Was when Marge gets a

1249
00:55:17.610 --> 00:55:19.190
<v Speaker 1>scientist who can actually help them.

1250
00:55:19.110 --> 00:55:20.070
<v Speaker 3>To stop the monorail.

1251
00:55:20.469 --> 00:55:22.550
<v Speaker 1>And she calls Homer. And she goes, Homer, I got

1252
00:55:22.570 --> 00:55:23.190
<v Speaker 1>someone to help us.

1253
00:55:23.409 --> 00:55:23.929
<v Speaker 3>Batman?

1254
00:55:24.429 --> 00:55:29.969
<v Speaker 1>No, it's a scientist. Batman's a scientist? It's not Batman. Okay.

1255
00:55:31.070 --> 00:55:36.280
<v Speaker 1>So Eli says, well, you know. Daniel, when you open

1256
00:55:36.300 --> 00:55:38.280
<v Speaker 1>the well and it pumps out oil for the first time,

1257
00:55:38.829 --> 00:55:41.050
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a really important moment for me as

1258
00:55:41.070 --> 00:55:43.949
<v Speaker 1>the pastor of the town to bless the oil well.

1259
00:55:44.809 --> 00:55:47.690
<v Speaker 1>And can we do that together? And Daniel's like, sounds great.

1260
00:55:47.969 --> 00:55:48.510
<v Speaker 1>I would love to.

1261
00:55:48.510 --> 00:55:50.340
<v Speaker 2>We'll meet you up there. How about 7, 730?

1262
00:55:50.320 --> 00:55:52.619
<v Speaker 1>He says, he says four o'clock and he goes four o'clock.

1263
00:55:52.659 --> 00:55:52.960
<v Speaker 3>It is.

1264
00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:54.260
<v Speaker 2>Let's make it four.

1265
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:58.099
<v Speaker 3>I love, I also love Eli's about to say something

1266
00:55:58.219 --> 00:56:00.699
<v Speaker 3>and Daniel just goes, thank you for your visit. I'm done.

1267
00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:02.139
<v Speaker 3>That was great.

1268
00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:05.559
<v Speaker 1>So Mary, who's the little girl in the Sunday family,

1269
00:56:05.699 --> 00:56:07.969
<v Speaker 1>and this is like a moment where like, oh, Daniel's

1270
00:56:08.550 --> 00:56:12.550
<v Speaker 1>a human? So Daniel's clearly drunk, but he's.

1271
00:56:13.730 --> 00:56:17.230
<v Speaker 3>Everyone's drinking normally. He's drinking out of the flask and bottle.

1272
00:56:17.250 --> 00:56:21.789
<v Speaker 1>The flask. But he knows Mary's dad. H.W. said, my

1273
00:56:21.829 --> 00:56:24.349
<v Speaker 1>friend Mary, who I met in town, the Sunday girl,

1274
00:56:24.880 --> 00:56:26.260
<v Speaker 1>she said her dad beats her.

1275
00:56:26.530 --> 00:56:27.260
<v Speaker 2>If she doesn't pray.

1276
00:56:27.739 --> 00:56:29.400
<v Speaker 1>If she doesn't pray. So then.

1277
00:56:30.699 --> 00:56:31.079
<v Speaker 2>Daniel.

1278
00:56:31.929 --> 00:56:34.610
<v Speaker 1>takes Mary and puts her on his lap, and you're like,

1279
00:56:34.630 --> 00:56:35.090
<v Speaker 1>what is he doing?

1280
00:56:35.130 --> 00:56:36.690
<v Speaker 2>It's so much more awkward than this.

1281
00:56:37.130 --> 00:56:39.190
<v Speaker 1>But he's right next to the girl's dad.

1282
00:56:39.469 --> 00:56:42.849
<v Speaker 2>So there's... I've seen this so many times, and I

1283
00:56:42.889 --> 00:56:44.630
<v Speaker 2>asked you about this earlier, and you're like, save that

1284
00:56:44.650 --> 00:56:47.610
<v Speaker 2>for the pod. And I'm like, eesh, because that's going to...

1285
00:56:47.909 --> 00:56:49.829
<v Speaker 2>I want to talk about this on the podcast, because

1286
00:56:49.849 --> 00:56:52.429
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea what's going on there. You know,

1287
00:56:53.030 --> 00:56:58.010
<v Speaker 2>he is such a non-human, like involved in society in

1288
00:56:58.170 --> 00:57:01.719
<v Speaker 2>any way. that he thinks he's going to take this

1289
00:57:01.820 --> 00:57:07.269
<v Speaker 2>opportunity when he's plastered in the middle of the night,

1290
00:57:07.590 --> 00:57:10.989
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the town, to grab this little

1291
00:57:11.030 --> 00:57:15.289
<v Speaker 2>girl that's running by him and have a one-off conversation

1292
00:57:15.329 --> 00:57:17.929
<v Speaker 2>with her in front of her dad. And then he

1293
00:57:17.969 --> 00:57:20.389
<v Speaker 2>tells her when he lets her go, now go off

1294
00:57:20.429 --> 00:57:24.849
<v Speaker 2>and play and don't come back, is what he tells her.

1295
00:57:25.610 --> 00:57:28.369
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to solve this and I don't want to

1296
00:57:28.409 --> 00:57:28.849
<v Speaker 2>see you again.

1297
00:57:29.909 --> 00:57:33.210
<v Speaker 1>But he does say, like, your dad's not going to

1298
00:57:33.230 --> 00:57:35.630
<v Speaker 1>beat you anymore, right? Now that we have the oil here, like,

1299
00:57:35.670 --> 00:57:37.670
<v Speaker 1>everything's good. Your dad's not going to beat you. And

1300
00:57:37.690 --> 00:57:39.949
<v Speaker 1>then he kind of turns and, like, looks at him. Like,

1301
00:57:39.969 --> 00:57:41.699
<v Speaker 1>I know what you're fucking doing and you're going to stop.

1302
00:57:42.110 --> 00:57:44.739
<v Speaker 1>So even though it's very twisted and weird the way

1303
00:57:44.760 --> 00:57:45.389
<v Speaker 1>he approaches it.

1304
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:47.920
<v Speaker 2>It's his kind of, he's trying to, this is him

1305
00:57:47.940 --> 00:57:48.840
<v Speaker 2>trying to do something nice.

1306
00:57:49.079 --> 00:57:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

1307
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:51.739
<v Speaker 3>But also, like, what's amazing when you watch that scene,

1308
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:55.869
<v Speaker 3>if you watch Married. She's genuinely mortified.

1309
00:57:55.969 --> 00:57:57.550
<v Speaker 2>She's terrified. She's terrified.

1310
00:57:57.630 --> 00:58:01.650
<v Speaker 3>And then he, what's so evil about it, even though,

1311
00:58:01.670 --> 00:58:03.730
<v Speaker 3>of course, what her dad is doing to her is awful,

1312
00:58:05.110 --> 00:58:07.130
<v Speaker 3>he's saying it out loud to her.

1313
00:58:06.929 --> 00:58:09.679
<v Speaker 2>That there's going to be no more hitting, okay?

1314
00:58:09.699 --> 00:58:10.980
<v Speaker 3>And he's just rubbing her hands.

1315
00:58:11.380 --> 00:58:13.739
<v Speaker 6>And she's like, okay, you're right. And are you glad

1316
00:58:13.820 --> 00:58:15.860
<v Speaker 6>I came here? And then all they do is cut

1317
00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:19.579
<v Speaker 6>to the dad, and the dad is just crumbling, hearing

1318
00:58:19.599 --> 00:58:21.980
<v Speaker 6>it and being like, oh, this monster is in charge.

1319
00:58:22.320 --> 00:58:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm fucked.

1320
00:58:23.300 --> 00:58:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Again, what you're doing is wrong.

1321
00:58:25.219 --> 00:58:29.900
<v Speaker 2>But it's also, it's like, Daniel, your bedside manner with

1322
00:58:29.940 --> 00:58:33.440
<v Speaker 2>this town is not terrific. No. You know?

1323
00:58:34.420 --> 00:58:37.460
<v Speaker 3>I think in his inhuman mind, it's like, I'm doing

1324
00:58:37.500 --> 00:58:38.019
<v Speaker 3>the right thing.

1325
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But also, it's not.

1326
00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.460
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter. The nature is not.

1327
00:58:42.539 --> 00:58:44.420
<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that was a thing. I thought that was, again,

1328
00:58:44.460 --> 00:58:46.460
<v Speaker 2>like you think some things are throwaway scenes the first

1329
00:58:46.500 --> 00:58:48.639
<v Speaker 2>time you see them, and then later on you go, oof,

1330
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:49.800
<v Speaker 2>that kind of rubbed me the wrong way.

1331
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:52.550
<v Speaker 3>My thinking is this, why, like, When they hold things

1332
00:58:52.610 --> 00:58:56.090
<v Speaker 3>on one shot, they don't cut away. You're telling us,

1333
00:58:56.269 --> 00:58:58.900
<v Speaker 3>I'm spending time on this. I'm spending your time as

1334
00:58:58.960 --> 00:58:59.619
<v Speaker 3>if you were on this.

1335
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:00.059
<v Speaker 2>Why?

1336
00:59:00.320 --> 00:59:01.199
<v Speaker 3>What are you trying to tell me?

1337
00:59:01.460 --> 00:59:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Not in a bad way. This is a very... I

1338
00:59:03.079 --> 00:59:05.489
<v Speaker 1>don't want to say slow movie. It takes its time.

1339
00:59:05.869 --> 00:59:06.829
<v Speaker 3>It does, which is great.

1340
00:59:06.909 --> 00:59:07.369
<v Speaker 1>In a good way.

1341
00:59:07.750 --> 00:59:10.969
<v Speaker 3>Because the build is great. And even though it never,

1342
00:59:11.030 --> 00:59:14.250
<v Speaker 3>to me, until we get to a later scene, it

1343
00:59:14.289 --> 00:59:18.059
<v Speaker 3>never feels fast. But for a long movie, it does

1344
00:59:18.340 --> 00:59:21.679
<v Speaker 3>move really well. Because also, they make you sit with

1345
00:59:21.719 --> 00:59:23.800
<v Speaker 3>a lot of the decisions that happen in the movie.

1346
00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:24.780
<v Speaker 7>Yes.

1347
00:59:24.980 --> 00:59:27.789
<v Speaker 3>To me. Yes. They aren't like, wow, at the end

1348
00:59:27.869 --> 00:59:30.389
<v Speaker 3>you're like, holy shit, this was such a rollercoaster train wreck.

1349
00:59:30.849 --> 00:59:34.550
<v Speaker 3>We just watched this tragic thing happen. It's like, well, no,

1350
00:59:34.570 --> 00:59:37.940
<v Speaker 3>we're kind of going to phase by phase, step by step,

1351
00:59:37.980 --> 00:59:41.639
<v Speaker 3>show you this is how this human disintegrates as they

1352
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:42.480
<v Speaker 3>make these choices.

1353
00:59:42.900 --> 00:59:45.000
<v Speaker 5>And you see how the things fall apart around them.

1354
00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:48.380
<v Speaker 5>Then you also see in a very darkly positive way

1355
00:59:49.059 --> 00:59:51.949
<v Speaker 5>some of the good things that happen for the people

1356
00:59:52.030 --> 00:59:53.949
<v Speaker 5>around them or how they react to him.

1357
00:59:54.610 --> 00:59:55.389
<v Speaker 2>It's interesting, yeah.

1358
00:59:56.409 --> 01:00:00.030
<v Speaker 1>So, come four o'clock, Eli shows up to bless the

1359
01:00:00.050 --> 01:00:03.230
<v Speaker 1>well in front of the town, and Daniel's giving a speech,

1360
01:00:03.289 --> 01:00:05.219
<v Speaker 1>and you're waiting for him to introduce Eli, and he

1361
01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:05.760
<v Speaker 1>just never does.

1362
01:00:06.380 --> 01:00:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I was not waiting for him to introduce Eli. Anybody

1363
01:00:08.900 --> 01:00:10.440
<v Speaker 2>that was watching the thing, he's going to let this

1364
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.920
<v Speaker 2>guy bless the well, it's like, you missed the mark.

1365
01:00:13.300 --> 01:00:15.920
<v Speaker 3>Because when Eli's telling him, like, how to introduce him,

1366
01:00:15.940 --> 01:00:17.380
<v Speaker 3>I was kind of like, uh.

1367
01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1368
01:00:18.300 --> 01:00:19.409
<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, I'm not sure it's going to go

1369
01:00:19.429 --> 01:00:21.670
<v Speaker 3>this way. And of course, I love, again, this movie's

1370
01:00:21.730 --> 01:00:23.590
<v Speaker 3>so funny that he said, like, when he is like,

1371
01:00:23.769 --> 01:00:25.429
<v Speaker 3>Eli's like, so, like, when you introduce me, he's like,

1372
01:00:26.110 --> 01:00:28.889
<v Speaker 3>you've brought a lot to this town, like, you're the pastor,

1373
01:00:28.909 --> 01:00:30.980
<v Speaker 3>you're the voice of the people, and they just cut

1374
01:00:31.019 --> 01:00:33.980
<v Speaker 3>back to Daniel, and he's just like, yeah, he's like, like,

1375
01:00:34.219 --> 01:00:35.000
<v Speaker 3>none of this is real.

1376
01:00:35.019 --> 01:00:36.179
<v Speaker 2>He's like, oh, yes, oh, yeah, of course.

1377
01:00:36.219 --> 01:00:37.679
<v Speaker 3>I'll do it in a minute, and he doesn't do,

1378
01:00:37.780 --> 01:00:40.179
<v Speaker 3>and also, he takes all of his best lines as

1379
01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:42.460
<v Speaker 3>his own. He's like, I know you're a town of prayer.

1380
01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:43.460
<v Speaker 1>It's just unreal.

1381
01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:44.300
<v Speaker 3>It's so good.

1382
01:00:44.800 --> 01:00:47.309
<v Speaker 1>Uh, cut to the first time, we gotta keep track

1383
01:00:47.329 --> 01:00:53.150
<v Speaker 1>of this, Daniel is passed out face first on the floor, drunk, and, um,

1384
01:00:54.070 --> 01:00:56.280
<v Speaker 1>a man has died in the well. Mm-hmm. So he's

1385
01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:58.440
<v Speaker 1>woken up and he's like, Daniel, we lost a man

1386
01:00:58.460 --> 01:01:00.380
<v Speaker 1>in the well. So Daniel.

1387
01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:02.820
<v Speaker 2>So this guy's also... So he's in a community of

1388
01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:08.289
<v Speaker 2>how many people at this point? 150? At the most. Okay, 150.

1389
01:01:08.289 --> 01:01:12.909
<v Speaker 2>He's the richest guy in the town by leaps and bounds.

1390
01:01:13.130 --> 01:01:14.690
<v Speaker 2>There's nobody else that's even close.

1391
01:01:14.730 --> 01:01:16.489
<v Speaker 1>He owns the entire town. It's like you and me

1392
01:01:16.530 --> 01:01:17.329
<v Speaker 1>versus Bill Cuff.

1393
01:01:19.139 --> 01:01:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Probably not that far off. So.

1394
01:01:23.670 --> 01:01:29.760
<v Speaker 2>So he decides his most comfortable resting place is flat, drunk,

1395
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:36.170
<v Speaker 2>on his belly, on a wooden floor. It's like a cabin.

1396
01:01:36.250 --> 01:01:38.130
<v Speaker 2>All I'm thinking to myself is there's no AC in there,

1397
01:01:38.150 --> 01:01:39.469
<v Speaker 2>but I don't think that was a thing back then.

1398
01:01:39.750 --> 01:01:42.469
<v Speaker 3>When you watch it, again, throughout the history of this movie,

1399
01:01:42.530 --> 01:01:43.849
<v Speaker 3>I guess they go through the time leaps.

1400
01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:46.869
<v Speaker 2>He just doesn't deserve a bed.

1401
01:01:47.010 --> 01:01:48.110
<v Speaker 3>As we all.

1402
01:01:47.829 --> 01:01:51.409
<v Speaker 2>Know, to end up asleep drunk on the floor, you

1403
01:01:51.429 --> 01:01:53.869
<v Speaker 2>have to take your last few drinks on the floor.

1404
01:01:54.289 --> 01:01:57.010
<v Speaker 2>You're committed to, like, this is where I'll be, and

1405
01:01:57.050 --> 01:01:59.469
<v Speaker 2>then I'll... I'll just say you have been committed. You

1406
01:01:59.530 --> 01:02:00.110
<v Speaker 2>are not committed.

1407
01:02:00.210 --> 01:02:01.949
<v Speaker 1>You are blacking out.

1408
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:03.539
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can't function anymore.

1409
01:02:03.619 --> 01:02:05.420
<v Speaker 1>You're not, like, getting really drunk.

1410
01:02:05.659 --> 01:02:07.000
<v Speaker 3>You are blacking out.

1411
01:02:07.039 --> 01:02:09.980
<v Speaker 2>No, you're also not drinking... You're not drinking, like, out

1412
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:12.460
<v Speaker 2>of a glass anymore. At this point, you're just holding

1413
01:02:12.500 --> 01:02:12.880
<v Speaker 2>a bottle.

1414
01:02:12.940 --> 01:02:13.260
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

1415
01:02:14.309 --> 01:02:16.510
<v Speaker 7>Uh this is like a high school boy kind of

1416
01:02:16.570 --> 01:02:20.320
<v Speaker 7>blackout and um so he he wakes up he deals

1417
01:02:20.360 --> 01:02:22.639
<v Speaker 7>with he's like okay we're gonna have a funeral he

1418
01:02:22.679 --> 01:02:26.599
<v Speaker 7>handles it decently i guess and he has to involve

1419
01:02:26.619 --> 01:02:30.559
<v Speaker 7>eli because he knows like funeral church and he goes

1420
01:02:30.739 --> 01:02:34.800
<v Speaker 7>and eli is doing some really just gross faith healing

1421
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:36.380
<v Speaker 7>yes like Oh.

1422
01:02:36.420 --> 01:02:37.139
<v Speaker 2>You are blind.

1423
01:02:37.260 --> 01:02:40.280
<v Speaker 1>I put my hand upon you and the Lord restores

1424
01:02:40.300 --> 01:02:43.159
<v Speaker 1>your sight. And you're just like.

1425
01:02:43.199 --> 01:02:46.440
<v Speaker 2>He's preying on the oldest woman in the congregation.

1426
01:02:46.820 --> 01:02:51.380
<v Speaker 3>They're going to heal her arthritis. This whole thing is

1427
01:02:51.420 --> 01:02:52.780
<v Speaker 3>about they both do.

1428
01:02:52.659 --> 01:02:56.449
<v Speaker 1>The same thing. They're both opposite sides of the same coin.

1429
01:02:56.730 --> 01:03:00.170
<v Speaker 1>They're both flim-flam men. Snake oil salesmen.

1430
01:03:00.230 --> 01:03:03.389
<v Speaker 2>But between the two of them, I'd choose Daniel. You

1431
01:03:03.489 --> 01:03:08.969
<v Speaker 2>can't really see how Paul Dano could have disdain for

1432
01:03:09.469 --> 01:03:14.099
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Day-Lewis. Like, he's out there splitting rocks to get

1433
01:03:14.119 --> 01:03:16.039
<v Speaker 2>to oil on the ground. He's out there working with

1434
01:03:16.079 --> 01:03:18.719
<v Speaker 2>his hands. You know, this guy's a snake oil salesman.

1435
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:21.300
<v Speaker 2>You know, like, Paul Dano's not really in a position

1436
01:03:21.340 --> 01:03:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to judge Daniel Day-Lewis, but you can see how Daniel

1437
01:03:23.420 --> 01:03:27.610
<v Speaker 2>Day-Lewis could be coming to their head-to-head conversations with, you know,

1438
01:03:28.309 --> 01:03:30.929
<v Speaker 2>maybe a legitimate gripe about this guy.

1439
01:03:30.949 --> 01:03:31.309
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

1440
01:03:32.340 --> 01:03:32.860
<v Speaker 1>No, you go ahead.

1441
01:03:32.909 --> 01:03:34.179
<v Speaker 2>Please.

1442
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:37.579
<v Speaker 1>Well, I obviously hate all religion, but I'm more on

1443
01:03:37.619 --> 01:03:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Daniel's side because I can't defend Daniel. He's an awful guy,

1444
01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:45.239
<v Speaker 1>but he's doing a tangible thing. He's going in the ground,

1445
01:03:45.699 --> 01:03:46.639
<v Speaker 1>pulling oil out.

1446
01:03:46.659 --> 01:03:47.519
<v Speaker 2>So he's working on his hands.

1447
01:03:47.599 --> 01:03:50.440
<v Speaker 1>And selling it to a company. Even if he had

1448
01:03:50.480 --> 01:03:52.619
<v Speaker 1>other men do it. He's still going to the ground,

1449
01:03:52.699 --> 01:03:55.530
<v Speaker 1>getting oil out, sending it to a company. It's a physical,

1450
01:03:55.590 --> 01:04:01.699
<v Speaker 1>tangible thing. Eli is talking promises and ether and fairy dust.

1451
01:04:01.940 --> 01:04:03.019
<v Speaker 1>And that, I don't respect that.

1452
01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:07.659
<v Speaker 3>Both are selling false hope. Yes. Daniel's is more practical

1453
01:04:08.119 --> 01:04:12.159
<v Speaker 3>because you can see the results. What bothers me about

1454
01:04:12.179 --> 01:04:15.570
<v Speaker 3>Eli's is, which I think is actually a great thing

1455
01:04:15.630 --> 01:04:19.190
<v Speaker 3>about the Paul Dana performance, is like, what you're promising

1456
01:04:19.409 --> 01:04:23.010
<v Speaker 3>is truly supernatural. Yes. That no one can promise.

1457
01:04:23.210 --> 01:04:23.429
<v Speaker 2>Yes.

1458
01:04:23.650 --> 01:04:25.639
<v Speaker 3>And I feel like, again, as Tim brought up the

1459
01:04:25.679 --> 01:04:27.980
<v Speaker 3>whole idea about the Tarantino commentary about it, was like,

1460
01:04:28.340 --> 01:04:30.739
<v Speaker 3>That actually is kind of, to me, the smart move

1461
01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:33.579
<v Speaker 3>of the performance is like, of course this guy's underwhelming.

1462
01:04:33.699 --> 01:04:36.320
<v Speaker 3>What he's saying, what he's doing, a human can't do.

1463
01:04:36.960 --> 01:04:39.559
<v Speaker 3>So of course it's going to look like fraudulent. And

1464
01:04:39.599 --> 01:04:42.440
<v Speaker 3>of course Daniel's going to hate it. But here's the thing.

1465
01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:46.619
<v Speaker 3>The people Daniel needs, Eli has control over.

1466
01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:48.300
<v Speaker 2>That's the whole point. Yes.

1467
01:04:48.460 --> 01:04:49.599
<v Speaker 3>And it's like, that's the idea.

1468
01:04:49.860 --> 01:04:53.929
<v Speaker 2>That took me a few times to figure that out. That, like, he's, like,

1469
01:04:54.010 --> 01:04:57.530
<v Speaker 2>Daniel needs... They cover it in the movie, but I

1470
01:04:57.690 --> 01:04:59.050
<v Speaker 2>don't think I really caught it the first time.

1471
01:04:59.070 --> 01:05:00.730
<v Speaker 1>You gotta play the game, like, yeah.

1472
01:05:01.150 --> 01:05:03.269
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's like, well, he says to him, he asks him,

1473
01:05:03.309 --> 01:05:06.409
<v Speaker 2>he's like, the guy that died was a man of faith.

1474
01:05:06.670 --> 01:05:07.989
<v Speaker 2>He believed in your bullshit.

1475
01:05:08.010 --> 01:05:08.210
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1476
01:05:08.449 --> 01:05:13.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay? So, I'm gonna need you to bless his funeral

1477
01:05:13.389 --> 01:05:16.099
<v Speaker 2>and say some positive things and move us on from this.

1478
01:05:16.500 --> 01:05:19.260
<v Speaker 2>Send the men back to work. And Paul Dano's like,

1479
01:05:19.760 --> 01:05:22.570
<v Speaker 2>he's like, well, you know, we... you know, we need,

1480
01:05:22.650 --> 01:05:24.550
<v Speaker 2>I've seen some men drinking on the job, you know,

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01:05:24.570 --> 01:05:26.340
<v Speaker 2>and maybe they're working too many hours and not coming

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01:05:26.380 --> 01:05:28.920
<v Speaker 2>to church, and Daniel Day-Lewis is like, listen, if they're

1483
01:05:28.940 --> 01:05:31.699
<v Speaker 2>not up there 12 hours a day, then there's not

1484
01:05:31.739 --> 01:05:34.480
<v Speaker 2>going to be money blown through this town, you know,

1485
01:05:35.179 --> 01:05:36.869
<v Speaker 2>which never ends up happening anyway, but.

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01:05:37.429 --> 01:05:38.710
<v Speaker 3>But do you think the movie does a good job

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01:05:38.750 --> 01:05:43.150
<v Speaker 3>of being like, okay, because, quote-unquote, like, Eli doesn't bless it,

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01:05:44.590 --> 01:05:45.869
<v Speaker 3>bad shit continues to happen.

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01:05:45.929 --> 01:05:48.590
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's the whole thing about religion and looking up

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01:05:48.659 --> 01:05:51.199
<v Speaker 2>at the sun god and everything else is like, Good

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01:05:51.219 --> 01:05:53.139
<v Speaker 2>things are going to happen. Bad things are going to happen.

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01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:56.360
<v Speaker 2>When something good happens, I was there. When something bad happens,

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01:05:56.380 --> 01:06:02.110
<v Speaker 2>you should have done this. And that's what Daniel Day-Lewis knows. Like, listen,

1494
01:06:02.710 --> 01:06:04.710
<v Speaker 2>I broke my leg when there was, you know, like

1495
01:06:04.730 --> 01:06:07.309
<v Speaker 2>I fell down a well. We lost tools. Fires went off.

1496
01:06:07.469 --> 01:06:10.909
<v Speaker 2>People died. Like these things are happening. It's an oil job,

1497
01:06:10.929 --> 01:06:12.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, an oil site.

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01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:15.860
<v Speaker 1>But Daniel knows there's PR to every company. And Daniel

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01:06:15.900 --> 01:06:18.050
<v Speaker 1>knows as much as he hates it. He goes, Eli,

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01:06:18.380 --> 01:06:21.199
<v Speaker 1>will you say some words about this dead man? And

1501
01:06:21.239 --> 01:06:24.320
<v Speaker 1>then he says the line that we mentioned earlier, well,

1502
01:06:24.340 --> 01:06:25.929
<v Speaker 1>that was one goddamn hell of a show.

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01:06:26.449 --> 01:06:26.889
<v Speaker 2>So great.

1504
01:06:27.269 --> 01:06:31.550
<v Speaker 1>So great. So great. Next is there's a guy.

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01:06:31.570 --> 01:06:35.769
<v Speaker 2>Daniel Day-Lewis is looking at the entire church thing as

1506
01:06:35.809 --> 01:06:38.489
<v Speaker 2>this is just a performance.

1507
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:41.619
<v Speaker 1>He's a scam artist, and he knows a scammer.

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01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:42.659
<v Speaker 2>He's a scam artist, yeah.

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01:06:42.679 --> 01:06:44.539
<v Speaker 1>He's a schemer, as the Joker would say, and he

1510
01:06:44.579 --> 01:06:47.739
<v Speaker 1>knows a schemer when he sees one. So he's like, yeah, okay,

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01:06:47.780 --> 01:06:49.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm scamming this town, but I know what you are.

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01:06:50.070 --> 01:06:51.349
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going to be scammed by you. This

1513
01:06:51.429 --> 01:06:54.059
<v Speaker 1>is so ridiculous. And he has no respect for it, because, like,

1514
01:06:54.440 --> 01:06:57.500
<v Speaker 1>I'm building this wooden structure and putting it into the ground.

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01:06:57.880 --> 01:06:59.099
<v Speaker 1>You're just talking.

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01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, he's also used to other scammers, like other people

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01:07:02.360 --> 01:07:04.920
<v Speaker 3>in his business, quote-unquote, breaking the fourth wall.

1518
01:07:05.219 --> 01:07:06.500
<v Speaker 2>Like, you're like, okay, wait.

1519
01:07:07.199 --> 01:07:08.809
<v Speaker 3>You have to present this to the people who don't

1520
01:07:08.829 --> 01:07:10.409
<v Speaker 3>know what they're doing. Now we talk.

1521
01:07:11.690 --> 01:07:12.429
<v Speaker 2>Eli doesn't do that.

1522
01:07:13.349 --> 01:07:16.909
<v Speaker 3>And that's also what drives him insane.

1523
01:07:17.050 --> 01:07:19.829
<v Speaker 1>So they're pumping oil next, and then all of a sudden...

1524
01:07:20.070 --> 01:07:22.989
<v Speaker 1>There's like a rumbling and a man screams, gas, gas!

1525
01:07:23.690 --> 01:07:28.300
<v Speaker 1>And there's an explosion. H.W., Daniel's son, was watching the

1526
01:07:28.320 --> 01:07:32.739
<v Speaker 1>pumping and he's blown back in this explosion. It's raining oil.

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01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:37.969
<v Speaker 1>Daniel runs out and he says, hand me H.W. And

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01:07:38.010 --> 01:07:41.550
<v Speaker 1>they hand him H.W. He runs holding H.W. He's saying,

1529
01:07:41.869 --> 01:07:42.989
<v Speaker 1>were you hit in the head? Were you hit in

1530
01:07:43.010 --> 01:07:46.449
<v Speaker 1>the head? And H.W. can talk. He says, no, I

1531
01:07:46.489 --> 01:07:51.139
<v Speaker 1>can't hear my own voice. And Daniel says, well, stay here.

1532
01:07:51.199 --> 01:07:52.900
<v Speaker 1>He knows, like, okay, H.W. 's not going to die.

1533
01:07:52.940 --> 01:07:55.639
<v Speaker 1>He's fine. So he says, stay here. And H.W. 's saying,

1534
01:07:55.679 --> 01:08:00.360
<v Speaker 1>don't leave, don't leave. And then Daniel leaves, and there's

1535
01:08:00.780 --> 01:08:05.429
<v Speaker 1>now an oil fire, the oil derrick fire. Kieran Hines

1536
01:08:05.610 --> 01:08:08.530
<v Speaker 1>comes out, and he's like, oh, shit, like, fuck, this

1537
01:08:08.610 --> 01:08:12.070
<v Speaker 1>is a huge mess. There's a gas explosion. There's a fire. Oh,

1538
01:08:12.090 --> 01:08:14.389
<v Speaker 1>my God. And then Daniel says, why are you looking

1539
01:08:14.429 --> 01:08:17.029
<v Speaker 1>so miserable? There's an ocean of oil beneath our feet.

1540
01:08:17.489 --> 01:08:18.449
<v Speaker 2>And I control it all.

1541
01:08:19.449 --> 01:08:22.789
<v Speaker 1>And I control it all. And then Daniel says to

1542
01:08:22.890 --> 01:08:27.470
<v Speaker 1>Kieran Hines, HW okay? And he says, no. No, sorry.

1543
01:08:27.829 --> 01:08:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Other way around. Kieran Hines says, is HW okay? Kieran

1544
01:08:30.939 --> 01:08:31.739
<v Speaker 1>Hines cares about HW.

1545
01:08:31.739 --> 01:08:34.319
<v Speaker 3>And then Kieran Hines leaves when Daniel says no.

1546
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:36.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he goes, no, he isn't okay. And then he goes,

1547
01:08:36.699 --> 01:08:40.020
<v Speaker 1>where's HW? Mess room. So then Kieran Hines... Runs out

1548
01:08:40.060 --> 01:08:42.960
<v Speaker 1>to the mess room. Not Daniel. Daniel's just enjoying... Also.

1549
01:08:43.279 --> 01:08:45.869
<v Speaker 3>The music here is just fucking... I don't.

1550
01:08:45.750 --> 01:08:47.630
<v Speaker 2>Know how to describe it.

1551
01:08:47.750 --> 01:08:51.069
<v Speaker 3>It's on an 11, yeah. But it's just like... It's

1552
01:08:51.090 --> 01:08:56.100
<v Speaker 3>just showing again. It's the reprogramming. It's my greatest success

1553
01:08:56.100 --> 01:08:59.600
<v Speaker 3>in my worst. like, I truly proved, like he said,

1554
01:08:59.619 --> 01:09:01.960
<v Speaker 3>there's a fucking ocean of oil here, this will be

1555
01:09:01.979 --> 01:09:03.260
<v Speaker 3>the richest deposit.

1556
01:09:02.859 --> 01:09:05.720
<v Speaker 2>Of my life. And Kieran Hines, I'm sorry, yeah, go ahead. No.

1557
01:09:06.100 --> 01:09:08.380
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Kieran Hines, I didn't even know who that was,

1558
01:09:08.420 --> 01:09:11.710
<v Speaker 2>but he's been in a million things, but he's probably

1559
01:09:11.750 --> 01:09:14.350
<v Speaker 2>only in the movie, too, for about ten minutes.

1560
01:09:14.390 --> 01:09:16.289
<v Speaker 3>But good. Phenomenal.

1561
01:09:16.550 --> 01:09:16.689
<v Speaker 5>Yes.

1562
01:09:16.789 --> 01:09:19.949
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely phenomenal. He's so good. Every scene that he's in,

1563
01:09:20.010 --> 01:09:22.189
<v Speaker 2>he steals every scene he's in, and that's a tough

1564
01:09:22.229 --> 01:09:23.939
<v Speaker 2>thing to do. Some of the other actors do that,

1565
01:09:24.340 --> 01:09:25.100
<v Speaker 2>which is incredible.

1566
01:09:25.279 --> 01:09:29.119
<v Speaker 1>And you would think he's a better dad than Daniel,

1567
01:09:29.340 --> 01:09:30.880
<v Speaker 1>because is HW okay?

1568
01:09:30.920 --> 01:09:31.420
<v Speaker 2>No, he isn't.

1569
01:09:31.460 --> 01:09:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Where is he? Mess hall. Runs away.

1570
01:09:33.199 --> 01:09:33.659
<v Speaker 3>Just leaves.

1571
01:09:33.979 --> 01:09:36.989
<v Speaker 1>And Daniel, meanwhile, is just basking in how great is this?

1572
01:09:37.029 --> 01:09:38.229
<v Speaker 1>It's literally raining oil.

1573
01:09:38.250 --> 01:09:40.930
<v Speaker 3>I'm so rich. And then HW saying, don't leave me

1574
01:09:41.010 --> 01:09:43.109
<v Speaker 3>is so crushing to watch.

1575
01:09:43.390 --> 01:09:44.010
<v Speaker 2>So crushing.

1576
01:09:44.189 --> 01:09:45.270
<v Speaker 1>And Daniel just runs off.

1577
01:09:45.369 --> 01:09:46.770
<v Speaker 2>So crushing to watch.

1578
01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:51.279
<v Speaker 1>With that, HW just got his eardrums blown out. We're

1579
01:09:51.300 --> 01:09:52.779
<v Speaker 1>bringing this to a part two. Woo!

1580
01:09:53.420 --> 01:09:56.220
<v Speaker 2>And we're, what, 45 minutes into the movie? We're actually

1581
01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:57.090
<v Speaker 2>pretty decently into it.

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01:09:57.140 --> 01:09:59.680
<v Speaker 1>We're pretty decently into it. But thank you for listening,

1583
01:09:59.739 --> 01:10:02.979
<v Speaker 1>and we'll catch you on the.

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01:10:03.890 --> 01:10:05.739
<v Speaker 2>Flip. Flip. F.