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your support. So the Democrats Hamas strategy ended the same

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way as Hamas's war on Israel ended, which makes sense

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because it was the Hamas strategy. Right, at some point,

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you cannot sustain the losses. And if the entire strategy

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is built around making your own people suffer so you

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can gain leverage from a pr standpoint, then at some

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point you are always going to have to come to

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the table and cave somehow, right, And that's exactly what

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we saw the Democrats do coincidentally right after the election. Right, Oh,

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this is not good news for Chuck Schuma. Not good news.

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I don't understand. Well, I've got yeah, like I've got

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a lot of reaction from people who know a lot

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more of the inside ballgame that was going on up

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there in DC About all of this, Bonchie, a writer

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at RedState dot com, notes the irony here that for

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the last forty days, whether there's something biblical about this anyway,

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the last forty days, the Democrats and the media, but

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I repeat myself, they have been screaming that Republicans are

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the ones that shut down the government and that's bad.

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And then as soon as these eight Democrats broke ranks

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with leadership or maybe they were given permission to do

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so by leadership, and voted with the Republicans to break

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the legislative filibuster. Now those same people who were saying

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that the government shutdown is bad, now they're mad that

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the shutdown is ending. Well, which is it, people, John Thune?

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This is according to Chris Slizza. Chris Solizza is a

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long time journalist frequent talking head on MSNBC, and he said,

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to be clear, John Thune, the Republican majority leader and

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Senate Republicans offered this exact deal that Democrats are now taking.

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He offered this weeks ago. Oh so this is not

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even a new deal. He gave it to them weeks ago.

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He says, why is it now when seven Senate Democrats

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decide to give in. Gosh, it's a brain buster. We

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may never know the reason why. Actually we do know

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the reason why. It's because now they are hitting air

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traffic controllers. You've got flight cancellations and such going on.

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You got the snap funds that are drawing up, and

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they're passed the election, right, they got past their no

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Kings rally. Remember, in fact, hang on one second, let

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me go through the stack of stuff and bring back

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this nugget from last week. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, Republican.

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He told Fox News that Chuck Schumer held a closed

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door meeting with Senate Democrats and told them to wait

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until after the elections to reopen the government quote, because

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they were afraid their base would not show up today

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in Virginia, New Jersey, and New York City. Last week,

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Dick Durbin, Democrat from Illinois, wanted to break with Democrats

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and reopen it, but he was told not to just

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wait till after the election. That was last week. Mark

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Wayne Mullen said that I gave you that quote last week,

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and lo and behold, here we are after the election.

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First vote that comes down, and boom, you've got a

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whole bunch of defectors. So let me go over here

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to This is the Independent Journal Review IJR dot com.

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Progressive Democratic lawmakers. House minority Leader Hakim Jeffries excoriated a

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deal Sunday negotiated by fellow members of their party to

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reopen the government. Right because the lefties are at least

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feigning outrage. Now, look, I get it. The radical base

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of their party. They are outraged. They are super mad

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at Chuck Schumer. I think he's done. He might be done.

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I don't know if he's going to run for reelection

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in twenty six or is it twenty six. I think

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it's twenty six. Yeah, yeah, he may be done. The

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knives are out for this guy now. And that's why,

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in fact I have his his feigned outrage from the

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floor where he spoke yesterday about the vote.

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Speaker 2: But let me be clear, however this folk turns out,

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this fight will and must continue. Democrats must fight because

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of millions of millions of family will lose health care coverage.

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We must fight because children who are dying of cancer

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will not get health care coverage. We must fight because

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a senior citizen cannot afford to pay twenty five thousand

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dollars a year just for health insurance. We must fight

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to keep millions from financial ruin. And make no mistake

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about it, the American people know who is inflicting this

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healthcare trauma on them, Donald Trump and the Republicans.

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Speaker 1: Hmmm, is that a guy you want leading you into battle? Man?

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He fights? He said fight like four times there, three

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or four times, so you know he fights because he

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said we have to keep fighting for health care costs

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to be lower. Which is weird because I remember, wait

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a minute, yeah I do. I remember that I was

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promised lower health care costs I don't know about fifteen

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years ago. That's why we had to take over a

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sixth of the economy through Obamacare. Yeah. In fact, there's

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a influencer guy named Mays Moore, and he put together

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a couple of highlights of Barack Obama telling us this

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very thing.

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Speaker 3: It will actually reduce the deficit by four trillion dollars

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over the long term. Reducing the waste and inefficiency in

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Medicare and Medicaid will pay for most of this plan.

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It will slow the growth of healthcare costs for our families,

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our businesses, and our government. There will be a provision

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in this plan that requires us to come forward with

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more spending cuts if the savings we promised don't materialize.

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Speaker 1: Lies all lies. This has been the problem. This was foreseen,

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it was predictable. It was predicted people like me saying

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at the time, this is going to drive up the

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cost of healthcare. And it did. And now we're supposed

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to pay off the insurance companies because that's what happens,

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that's what the subsidies are, right, We're paying off insurance

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companies with taxpayer dollars. It's absurd. I saw a great point.

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The answer to these problems is not more socialistic policy. Okay.

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The problem is people inject this kind of soft socialism

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into the free market system, and then when the free

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market starts sputtering because of this poison that you've injected,

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then people start blaming the free market, and it's not

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the fault of the free market, it's the fault of

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the socialism. And then people are like, well, we got

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to have more socialism then, yeah, to kill the patient.

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That's what this is has been about from the beginning.

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For people who weren't paying attention during the Obamacare fight,

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we all knew that this was the point. It was

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to break the system. I'm frankly surprised it only took

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According to the Independent Journal Review IJR dot com, the

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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries said that a vote to

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extend the Obamacare subsidies, which is not guaranteed to pass,

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is insufficient as part of this deal because that's one

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of the things that they got promised, which was we'll

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give you a we'll give you a vote on the

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subsidies as a standalone vote, and that's not going to pass.

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It's not going to pass, so it may get through

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the House, but it is unlikely to get sixty votes

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to pass in the Senate and overcome a filibuster, so

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you didn't really get anything there. Senate Majority Leader John

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Thune has offered Democrats a vote on extending the ACA subsidies.

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He's been offering them this since mid October, okay, for weeks.

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Washington Representative Representative Pramila Jayapal, the chair of the Congressional

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Progressive Caucus, took to the Twitter machine and said, quote,

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caving on a deal that doesn't fix healthcare, which isn't broken.

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You guys already fixed it with Obamacare. What are you

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talking about? She says, Caving on a deal that doesn't

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fix healthcare is and always has been a giant betrayal

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of the American people. Hold the line save healthcare. I'm

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a no on anything that doesn't extend a subsidies. Remember,

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the subsidies were put in place by Democrats without Republican support,

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and they were the ones who made the subsidies temporary.

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They did this on multiple occasions. This is of their

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own doing. They authored the legislation. Now why would they

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make them temporary. Well, as we heard in the clip

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of lies from Barack Obama, right, they wanted to make

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this thing when they originally crafted Obamacare. They wanted to

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make this thing appear from a budgetary gimmick standpoint, as

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if it was funded, as if it would not be

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the mess that it is. And so they had all

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of these you know, accounting tricks that they put in there.

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And one of them was to phase out the subsidies

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and the subsidies, and then of course they kept extending

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them because people would complain because the healthcare calls kept

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going up and up and up and up, and so

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they kept extending them, leaving the sunset provisions in the

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latest round came during COVID. Charles C. W. Cook at

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National Review, he says, my take on why the Democrats

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shutdown failed is that they never admitted that they shut

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down the government, and so their claims to be fighting

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sounded weird and still do right, you shut down the government.

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This is why the messaging like they never would take ownership.

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They didn't want any ownership of the shutdown, even though

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they were the ones that were blocking passage of the

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Clean Continuing Resolution to keep the funding going. They were

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the ones that said, you have to put more spending

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into the clean CR or the CCR. You have to

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put what we want in there, or else we're not

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going to support it. And that shut the government down.

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So that's your fault. Because the clean CR passed the

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House and it had the votes, it had a majority support,

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bipartisan majority support in the Senate, it just didn't have

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enough to clear the filibuster. That was a you decision,

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You Democrat leadership decision. There's a fella by the name

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of Mike Fragoso, and he was a former counsel to

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Senator Mitch McConnell and the Senate Judiciary Republicans, and he

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lays out sort of the politics of this behind the scenes.

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He says, Schumer should put his head in a bag.

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I'm thinking like a paper bag kind of deal. You know.

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During the Biden years, the Senate passed many CRS mini budgets,

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omnibus bills supplemental funding. This was obviously bipartisan because of

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the filibuster. At the time, the Heritage and Steering Crew

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howled that the same fourteen Republicans kept giving the Democrats

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sixty votes to bust the deficit or whatever, in contravention

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of the Republican conferences. Will right, You always had these

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fourteen Republican traders, Mitch McConnell being one of them. Eventually,

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one of the more responsible members ran the numbers and

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found only fourteen Republicans refused to vote for any of

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these bills, meaning that it was the ultras, the ultra conservatives,

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who were the rump and a super majority of the

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conference was in fact willing to play ball depending on circumstances.

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So what does this have to do with Schumer. Well,

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McConnell and Thune always voted with the majority, contrary to

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the folks at Heritage and the Steering Committee attacks. It

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wasn't because they necessarily liked the bills. It was because

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vote no but hope yes has no place in leadership

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as a strategy. It would be dishonorable to go to

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your members ask them for a hard vote while you

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take a walk for ideological or political reasons. So when

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you need to persuade the conference to take a hard

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vote for your side, like Kavanaugh or the one big

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beautiful bill or acquitting the President, they're going to be

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more likely to follow you if they know that you

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always lead from the front. The Republican Conference vests comparatively

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little power in its leader. He has to persuade more

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than command. Democrat Caucus rules empower their leader. Though he

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governs with fear, He's a comfortable pollaburo general with conscripts

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afraid of the guns behind them. Perhaps this past weekend

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the troops stopped being afraid and defied him on a

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consequential vote. Handing progressives a staggering defeat, or perhaps he

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authorized the defection. Either way, it's bad for him. In

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line driven by Liberty Buick GMC message from Jason. They

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also passed Obamacare to see what was in the bill. Remember,

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this was the worst thing that could happen to healthcare.

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This just made healthcare from bad to worse. Yeah, we

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had to pass the bill to find out what's in there.

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Tell me it was that John Conyers, right, wasn't that

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who that was? They tell me, you gotta read the bill.

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You gotta read the bill. No one reads the bills.

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have to pass it to know what's in it. That

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was yeah, because they just offloaded the responsibility to write

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all the rules to Kathleen Sibelius. The Health and Human

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Services Secretary. John appreciated the CCR joke. You're welcome. Jeanie

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in Gastonia says, thank you, Pete for the hard work

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and dedication and time that you put in bringing us

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the latest informative information. Our family appreciates it. Just hope

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others do as well. They don't, Geenie, they don't. Hi kid,

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I appreciate it. Thank you very much for the kind words.

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And random seven O four number says good show. And

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Tony sent me a picture of snow along the road.

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Don't know where that is? Oh, just north of Ashville.

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There you go, it's snowing north of Ashville. Where where

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should I go? Well, but oh, okay, let me go

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over here. Do you know who Peter Welch is. Of

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course you don't. He's a US senator from Vermont, Okay,

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and uh, I think he is of the Uh I

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think he is of the the jam Fame. I actually don't.

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It's just his last name is Welch. So anyway, Senator

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Peter Welch in comments Listen, he actually acknowledges here. He

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admits that Obamacare has failed. That's at the heart of

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the Democrats position is that when we were in charge,

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we implemented this massive government takeover on promises that it

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would bend the cost curve. That was what was told

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to us, that it was going to, you know, stabilize

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the prices, drive them down. Heck, we even called it

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the Affordable Care Act. How damn care not become affordable now?

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But they failed. My belief was always that that was intentional.

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I expected it to collapse way earlier than fifteen years.

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But here we are. But for the subsidies. It probably

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would have collapsed much earlier because it had to, because

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it is an unworkable model. It always was. It was

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designed to fail. Like I've literally been saying this since

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Obamacare was passed. This would have been what two thousand

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and nine, twenty ten or something, and the Tea Party

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years took over based in part on this kind of

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this kind of legislation. But you can you can only

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ration a limited good or service in one of two ways,

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either by cost or by access. That's it, because it's

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it's a limited good or service, So you cannot provide

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it for free for everyone. It is impossible to do.

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And you may try to trick the invisible hand of

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the free market, but you will not succeed because the

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free market is just us. I've been saying this for years.

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You are the free market, I am the free market. Capitalism.

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But they call it, you know, Marx called it capitalism

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to make it a slur, but it's just freedom. It's

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the freedom to choose, and it's sending individual signals to producers, retailers, right, consumers.

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When you make a purchase at a store and the

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item you're buying is on sale, right, you're sending a

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signal that you will buy that item when it is

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on sale, but maybe you won't buy it when it's

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not on sale, which sends the message to the producer,

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to the retailer, hey, you know what, our prices are

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too high if they're not moving their merchandise. Prices are

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too high. If they cut the prices to try to

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move the merch and people still don't buy it, well,

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that's sending signals that people don't want it. Now if

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people do want it, and you end up with this

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like like a like I don't say black market, but

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on the resale market, and people are buying like your shoes,

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like your new, latest, hottest sneakers, and you sell them

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for one hundred dollars and they sell out immediately, then

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it's like, oh, maybe we should raise those prices a

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little bit higher so they don't sell out immediately. So

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you raise them to five hundred dollars, and they still

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sell out immediately. That sends another signal that you can

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raise the price even more. I mean, that's it. That's

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all the free market is. It's just every individual making

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a choice at any given moment. You're talking an infinite

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number of data points. This is why a command control

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economy or command control industry. This idea that, oh, if

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we just put people that are technocrats that know what

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they're doing, we put them in charge of the system,

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and they'll be able to manage all of this stuff.

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The hubris, the conceit of that. There's no way that

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you will be able to replace a system that allows

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billions of people to make infinite numbers of choices at

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any given moment in time. You can't do it. This

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was always the fatal flaw in Obamacare. There were many,

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I mean, and I've talked about them for years. You've

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got the woodwork effect right where people quote come out

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of the woodwork. They always underestimate the number of people

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that want the free stuff, like, yeah, you made it free,

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which of course it's not free. And so Peter welch

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Suh admits Obamacare was a failure.

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Speaker 4: I owe you an answer on why it is I'm

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standing here today asking to extend something that was temporary.

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And here here's the reason we did fail to bring

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down the cost of healthcare.

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Speaker 1: We know, we know, So no, you don't get an

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extra four hundred billion dollars to now quote fix it,

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which is an It's not a fix, it's subsidizing failure.

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Uh seven oh four number On the text line, A

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message says, Pete, Oh, it's Joe. Okay, so I'll write

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Joe in here, so now we will always know that

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this is Joe. See how that works. Boom Joe, and

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then I hit save and now that's Joe. Just a

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correction for you, Pete. Chuck Schumer's speech had seven fights,

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a cancer, a trauma, and a Trump. I mean, I

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will take your word from that. I lost count. I

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did not count all of them. And the next thing, Oh, Kevin,

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Obamacare does lower cost both for those that are sick

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through no fault of their own and those that stuff

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their face at Golden Corral are one hundred and fifty

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pounds overweight Communist Socialist permission structure. I'm going to pay

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the same for my healthcare, so why take care of

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my health It ticks me off that I have to

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pay for it. Through higher premiums other people's poor life choices. Right, Well,

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that's all insurance. That's the problem with all insurance and

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risk pools, the whole model. And when Obamacare was being debated,

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like there's so many different directions, I can go with

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this because there because this fight was raging for like

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a year. So the better way to have gone about

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reforming or I should just say driving down the price

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of healthcare, The thing to do is to remove the

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third parties that are between you and your doctor. That

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includes the insurance companies and it includes GOV. Go right,

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get both of them out of this mix as much

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as possible. You then have the catastrophic policies that you

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that you can go out to the marketplace and get

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a catastrophic policy for you know, for things that are

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not h not known right in the event of a catastrophe.

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But make everything point of purchase. Like you don't use

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your car insurance to pay for oil changes, and if

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you did, your oil changes would be super expensive.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Why is health insurance treated differently than car insurance, right,

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or any other form of insurance for that matter. It's

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just it's a broken model. And this was made very

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clear to me the first time I got an HSA

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and I went into the doctor's office and they asked

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me if I wanted a technis shot and I said, well,

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I don't know. I said, I'm paying for it with

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an HSA, so like what's the price? And he was like,

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I don't know. That's a problem, right, don't you think

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you're offering services and you don't even know what the

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price is. So and I don't fault him because everything

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just runs through an insurance company, and there are cheaper rates,

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by the way, if you pay cash, if you offer

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to pay cash, you'll get lower costs at the doctor's office.

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And so when he asked his you know, he asked

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the nurse to go check out what the price was

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before I would agree to get it. And she came

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back and it was like seventy dollars for a tetnis shot.

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And I was like, mm, yeah no, and he's like, yeah,

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just come back if you step on a nail. So

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you make a different decision when you know what the

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price is, right, you can. It is a way for

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you then to assess is this good or service worth

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the price that they're charging. But when you get when

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you're masked to that cost when it's hidden through an

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insurance company. And then the government did subsidizing the insurance companies,

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so then they have an incentive to raise the prices

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because you don't see it. They're going to build the government.

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Oh and then the subsidy goes away, and oh no,

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now you have to come out of pocket for it. Now,

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Oh my gosh, it's way too expensive. They also broke

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it with the plans Gold, Silver, Bronze. I was on

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Obamacare for a year after I got let go up

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in Ashville, and then when I got hired and started

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got a health insurance, had to pay a penalty because

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of the previous year. So at a time when I

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was on their plan and they were giving it to

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me for like eight dollars or something, it was ridiculous,

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and I was making income, but I launched the podcast,

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so they couldn't rate the income, so they didn't know

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how much I was making as a self employed person,

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so they just said, well, we'll give it to you

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for free. And then I get hired here and then

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I have to pay a massive penalty for the previous

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year when I wasn't making that money. Like it's just absurd.

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The whole thing. The whole program was absurd, but I

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believe it's absurd and it was built of and I

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believe that from the beginning because Ted Kennedy told Obama

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the biggest regret he had was not doing the deal

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with Nixon for the Medicare for All. Had he gone

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ahead and done little that component of the socialized medicine

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that Kennedy wanted, then they'd have been further down the

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road to a fully government controlled system. And then you

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will have your care rationed by access. That's the deal,

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all right. That'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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so much for listening. I could not do the show

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for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone.