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<v Speaker 1>It's nice eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Unknown, Boston's news radio. Kyle Bray great radio name short, sweet, sweet,

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<v Speaker 2>two monosyllab syllables like Dan Ray, Kyle Bray, really good, Thanks, Kyle,

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<v Speaker 2>appreciated a whole lot. Good evening. Everyone in welcome and

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<v Speaker 2>no excuse me. This is where's the week one? It's

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<v Speaker 2>a Thursday night edition of Nightside. I was just talking

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<v Speaker 2>with Rob Brooks, our producer, and how disappointing that loss

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<v Speaker 2>was today. The Red Sox ace getting dusted up a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit in the first two winnings by a team

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<v Speaker 2>from Seattle that does not really I think threaten too

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<v Speaker 2>many pitchers, but they got to him early today and

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<v Speaker 2>they hung on. So hey, there's still one game above

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred, that's for sure. My name is Dan Ray.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the host of Nightside, and as we do every year,

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<v Speaker 2>I would like to just acknowledge this today as Armenian

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<v Speaker 2>Remembrance Day. The White House today released a statement that

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<v Speaker 2>on this day of remembrance, we again joined the great

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<v Speaker 2>Armenian community in America and around the world in mourning

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<v Speaker 2>the many lives that were lost every year. On April

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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourth, we reflect on the strong and enduring ties

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<v Speaker 2>between the Armeric between the American and Armenians people, Armenian peoples.

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<v Speaker 2>We're proud of the American Committee for Armenia and Syrian Relief,

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<v Speaker 2>a groundbreaking effort established in nineteen fifteen that provided crucial

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<v Speaker 2>humanitarian support to Armenian refugees, and grateful to the thousands

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<v Speaker 2>of Americans who contributed a volunteer to help the Armenians

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<v Speaker 2>expel from their homes. And again, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>good that goes on in the world, but obviously there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of bad that goes on in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we remember Armenian Remembrance Day today, twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a lot of listeners and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>folks in the Greater Boston community of Armenian heritage, and

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<v Speaker 2>several of them are good friends of mine. So that

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<v Speaker 2>acknowledgment was for everyone in the Armenian community. We have

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<v Speaker 2>four guests scheduled this hour, and one of the guests

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<v Speaker 2>is joining us right now, Samantha Joseph. Samantha Joseph the

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<v Speaker 2>Anti Defamation League New England's regional director. And so we

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<v Speaker 2>moved from the way Armenians were treated to the way

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish people are still being treated. Last year, twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>apparently there was a record number of anti Semitic incidents

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<v Speaker 2>here in New England. So to switt this up for us,

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha Joseph joins us, Samantha, welcome. I'm sorry that we

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<v Speaker 2>have to focus on such a negative story, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think we have to kind of shine the light on

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<v Speaker 2>this sort of behavior which, for some reason just doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>seem to want to go away.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. Tell us about I guess the anti Semitic

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<v Speaker 2>incidents here in New England sad to say, for the

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<v Speaker 2>fifth year in a row, all previous annual records. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is in the wake of what happened on October seventh,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three. Anything I would think that that would

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<v Speaker 2>have reversed that trend. Tell us about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, October seventh was definitely a watershed moment here in

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<v Speaker 3>America for anti Semitic incidents, even though they have been

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<v Speaker 3>on the rise for the last five years, and we're

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<v Speaker 3>seeing attitudes towards antisemitism, you know, changing in very concerning

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<v Speaker 3>in negative ways. The amount of incidents after October seventh

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<v Speaker 3>is really unprecedented. We've seen almost double the number in

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty four that we had in twenty twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>The very concerning you know, Jewish people are really being targeted,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's really scary for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>So give us a quick rundown if you will. And again,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to make this like a baseball box score,

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<v Speaker 2>but are we talking about confrontations? Are we talking about

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<v Speaker 2>people's grawling, you know, chalk on the sidewalk? How you know?

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<v Speaker 2>I hate to put it like this, but how bad

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<v Speaker 2>is it? I mean, any form event of anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 2>is virulent. Clearly everyone knows that, and we talk about

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<v Speaker 2>it a lot here on the show. Sarah Kolb has

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<v Speaker 2>bet a guest on this show. Yes, many times, as

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<v Speaker 2>as Jeff Robbins. I have seen a lot of anti

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<v Speaker 2>semitism in this country metastasized towards the American left. But

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<v Speaker 2>this report would suggest that there is a resurgence of

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<v Speaker 2>anti Semitism coming from white racial groups which identify as

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<v Speaker 2>being on the far right. Tell us about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, there's a lot of different forms of anti semitism

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<v Speaker 3>here in Massachusetts end around the country. We do have

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<v Speaker 3>a significant amount of white supremacist extremist activity. That accounts

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<v Speaker 3>for eighty one of the incidents that took place, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know, almost a quarter of them. For example, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there were flyers saying to boycott Jewish businesses that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>were that we traced directly to the Patriot Front and

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<v Speaker 3>other white supremacist groups. They're also attacked. You know, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say mostly vandalism is you know, one of their

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<v Speaker 3>key tactics, although there is some harassment and threats as well.

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<v Speaker 3>We've in addition to vandalism, well, we do see a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of harassment, particularly on college campuses. In Massachusetts, college

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<v Speaker 3>incidents really skyrocketed. They were up eighty six percent from

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three to twenty four, with almost one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if you saw what was going

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<v Speaker 2>on down in new Haven, Connecticut, on the campus at

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<v Speaker 2>Yale yesterday, but it was disgusting. There are a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people who linked their arms to prevent Jewish students

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<v Speaker 2>from traversing the campus and getting to classes and getting

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<v Speaker 2>to libraries and all of that. Obviously, these these wackadoodle

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<v Speaker 2>right wing groups, which seems to seem to me, I

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<v Speaker 2>know that there's something that needs They need to be

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<v Speaker 2>watched and monitored. But it's like the twenty same their

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<v Speaker 2>twenties losers who form one group and then morph into another.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to watch those. But what's going on in

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<v Speaker 2>college campuses? When I saw that yesterday at Yale there

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<v Speaker 2>was a student who was not being permitted by other

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<v Speaker 2>students and he didn't he didn't initiate any confrontation, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was appalling, particularly at Yale University, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>second most prestigious IVY League college in the IVY League,

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<v Speaker 2>the first, of course being Harvard, which has their own

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<v Speaker 2>sets of issues. This is writing stuff and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to be Jewish and I am not Jewish. I

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<v Speaker 2>happen to be Roman Catholic. You don't have to be

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish to be concerned about it, because we learned from

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<v Speaker 2>the Holocaust. Starts with one group, then another group, and

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<v Speaker 2>then another group, and then eventually it's your group. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is a warning that we need to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about and I'll give you a final word on it.

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<v Speaker 2>If this. If you want to mention how people can

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<v Speaker 2>show some support to the ADL, that's fine as well,

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<v Speaker 2>go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, I mean what we saw at Yale and

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<v Speaker 3>you know a number of college campuses that's not legitimate

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<v Speaker 3>criticism of Israel, which we don't count as anti semitism, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that is harassment targeted at Jewish students, preventing them from

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<v Speaker 3>moving around campus. You know, it's very very clear. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know it when you see it. I just want

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<v Speaker 3>to encourage people that if they experience an incident of antisemitism,

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<v Speaker 3>that they report it to ADL. The numbers drive policy, right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's how we make decisions and legislative change, and so

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<v Speaker 3>we want to be of service to the community and

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<v Speaker 3>help protect Jewish and all and all members of the community.

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<v Speaker 3>So just please don't hesitate to reach out if you experience.

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<v Speaker 2>It, and if they would like to get in touch

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<v Speaker 2>with the New England chapter of the Anti Defamation League.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the easiest website that you'd like to give.

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<v Speaker 3>It's eighty L dot org slash report Incident and it's

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<v Speaker 3>very easy. You just really google ADL incident.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, keep up the good work and keep

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<v Speaker 2>up the fight. I think it's a fight that sadly

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<v Speaker 2>is going to continue. I wish that we could wave

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<v Speaker 2>a magic wand and make it go away. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of hatred and a lot of ignorance on

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<v Speaker 2>both ends of the extreme flanks of our political spectrum,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not healthy for anyone. It's certainly not healthy

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<v Speaker 2>for those that purvey this stuff. I mean, I just

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine how people can put their heart on their

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<v Speaker 2>pillow at night and saying, oh, I did something really good, jineers,

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<v Speaker 2>I scrawled a swatstick on the side of a building

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<v Speaker 2>or on a sidewalk. I mean, if that's what you'll

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<v Speaker 2>life is all about, it's a pretty empty life. Samantha.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much for your time tonight, and keep

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<v Speaker 2>up the good work. And please say hi to everyone

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<v Speaker 2>if you talk to Jeff Robbins. Yeah, we'll do.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for raising raising awareness about this

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<v Speaker 3>very welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we're going to talk about a

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<v Speaker 2>really great nonprofit. It's a simple idea, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>a it's an idea that really does help people. Simple, simplistic,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, or it's simplicity, but it's very effective. It's

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<v Speaker 2>called One Warm Coat, a national nonprofit dedicated to providing

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<v Speaker 2>free coach to children and adults in need. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>talking with the president and CEO of One Warm Coat

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<v Speaker 2>right after this break on Nightside, and I would once

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<v Speaker 4>Right after this, you're on Night Side with Dan Ray

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back everyone. There's a lot of charities

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<v Speaker 2>that we talk about here on Nightside, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of them they're all very valuable ideas, but every once

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<v Speaker 2>in a while you come across one that really does

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<v Speaker 2>strike you as a brilliant idea. And with us is

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<v Speaker 2>Beth Amadillo. She's the president and CEO of One Warm Coade. Beth,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Nightside. How are you tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing great. Thanks so much for having me Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think we've profiled this charity before. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure if it was with you or not. But tell

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<v Speaker 2>us about One Warm Coat. I mean, the name itself,

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<v Speaker 2>the three words One Warm Coat describes exactly what this

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<v Speaker 5>So, thirty three years ago, one woman who had one

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<v Speaker 5>in San Francisco, and it's grown from that one drive

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<v Speaker 5>to now every year we will have thousands of coat

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<v Speaker 5>drives across the country and we're able to collect and

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<v Speaker 5>distribute more than half a million coats every year. And

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<v Speaker 5>at the same time that it's providing warmth to children

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<v Speaker 5>and adults who really need it, it's also keeping a

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<v Speaker 2>Very important. You know, that's a double benefit. So describe

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<v Speaker 2>to us you're not looking necessarily for, you know, Brooks Brothers,

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<v Speaker 2>Tweed coats and tuxedos, you know, and that have to

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<v Speaker 2>can go through their closets and say, yeah, I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>won that coat in ten years, which exactly what is

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<v Speaker 2>the quality that a lot of times, matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 2>some of the stuff you haven't won in ten years

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<v Speaker 5>Frankly, exactly, we're not super choosy, except that we want

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<v Speaker 5>or tears or stains. So I always say, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>them to school, don't donate it. There's other programs for that.

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<v Speaker 5>There's textile recycling programs where you can donate textiles that

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<v Speaker 5>But the cool thing is that we really we need everything.

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<v Speaker 5>We need everything from like your light windbreakers and rain

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<v Speaker 5>jackets for this time of year, to really thick, heavy coats.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know you're in Boston where it gets very cold,

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<v Speaker 5>so really anything in all ages, so from infants to

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<v Speaker 2>So it must be you must have a website. I

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<v Speaker 2>assume where people were in Boston. You have collection sites

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<v Speaker 2>design understand that all over the country. Explain to us

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<v Speaker 2>how what do you do with it? Do you bring

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<v Speaker 2>the collect these some of the boxes you see or

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, so we always say those kind of three ways

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<v Speaker 5>like you mentioned, to clean out your closets, clean out

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<v Speaker 5>out your spouse's closets, your kids closets. I have two

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<v Speaker 5>teenage boys who outgrow their coats every single year and

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<v Speaker 5>set us aside. You can go to our website, which

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<v Speaker 5>you where you can drop them off. This time of year,

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<v Speaker 5>there aren't as many, but we do have fifteen hundred

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<v Speaker 5>local nonprofit partners across the country who are accepting coats

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<v Speaker 5>year round, and we do have several of those in

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<v Speaker 5>the Boston metropolitan area. And then as the season gets colder,

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<v Speaker 5>as we get towards fall and back to school time,

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<v Speaker 5>and then on into the holiday season, more and more

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<v Speaker 5>some upscale ones like Todd Snyder and McCaw where if

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<v Speaker 5>you take a coat to donate, you'll actually get a

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<v Speaker 5>discount on a new coat, sometimes as much as one

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<v Speaker 5>really great. So that's the easiest way to participate. The

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<v Speaker 5>second way that is for people who hear this and

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<v Speaker 5>think that sounds amazing and I have so many coats,

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<v Speaker 5>and I bet my friends and neighbors or colleagues or

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<v Speaker 5>people let my church have a bunch of coats too.

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<v Speaker 5>Is we have thousands of volunteers across the country who

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<v Speaker 5>organize coat drives for us. And those can be again

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<v Speaker 5>website and there's a button that says organize a coat drive,

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<v Speaker 5>and you sign up and we just provide you all

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<v Speaker 5>can let your local community know social media posts, even

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<v Speaker 5>your own website so that you can promote it and

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<v Speaker 5>share that website through email. So we provide all these

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<v Speaker 5>sure that we keep people warm, but before the temperatures drop.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds great. So the easiest thing just one warm

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<v Speaker 2>Coode dot org and use your address or your town

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<v Speaker 2>or use zip code. It will direct you to places

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<v Speaker 2>drive yourself and look it just it just makes so

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<v Speaker 2>much sense. Thanks so much for joining us. Thank How

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<v Speaker 2>long have you been doing this, Beth, You've been doing

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<v Speaker 2>this a while.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been doing this seven years, and I really love it.

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<v Speaker 5>I love seeing how how happy the people are who

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<v Speaker 5>receive the codes, but I also love seeing how excited

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<v Speaker 5>the people are who help donate the and just feeling

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's great all fifty states. We're much more than

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<v Speaker 2>a Boston radio station. We're heard throughout most of the

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<v Speaker 2>eastern half of the US and once the sun goes down,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we have a lot of listeners in different states.

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<v Speaker 2>You have three eight and three coke drives in communities

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<v Speaker 2>across all fifty states. So as you can see, folks,

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking about probably anywhere on an average sixty seventy

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<v Speaker 2>eighty coat drives, no matter what state you'll live in.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously more yeah, you know, I few were maybe in

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<v Speaker 5>And you know what's surprising is we actually have coat

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's probably a few umbrellas that get contributed

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<v Speaker 2>as well down there. Beth, thank you very much for

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<v Speaker 2>your time tonight. Great organization, simple, straight to the point

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<v Speaker 2>everybody can understand it. Thanks so much for joining yes tonight,

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for what you do.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome. Got a couple of books that we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to introduce you to. The next one is about living

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<v Speaker 2>a connected life with yourself and with others. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 2>with a PhD named Seth cop called Copuld. He's written

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<v Speaker 2>a book, and then later on we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about please unsubscribe. Thanks, how to take back our time,

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<v Speaker 2>attention and purpose and a world designed to bury us

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<v Speaker 2>the other side of the news right here on night Side.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a Thursday night, going to be a nice

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<v Speaker 5>It's Nightside's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>With us is Seth Copald. He's a PhD AS certified

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<v Speaker 2>Internal Family System practitioner and author. He has a new

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<v Speaker 2>book called Self Led Living a Connected Life with yourself

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<v Speaker 2>and with Others. Seth, I'd love to know what this

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<v Speaker 2>one's all about, because I think I know, but I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Dare say, go right ahead and tell us. Congratulations on

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<v Speaker 2>the book and tell us tell us what the theory,

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<v Speaker 2>what the premise of the book is.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, thank you so much for having me. First of all, welcome.

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<v Speaker 6>So yeah, So this book is based on internal family systems,

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<v Speaker 6>which believes we all have various parts of us that

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<v Speaker 6>like defensiveness, anxiety, worry. We also have other parts in

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<v Speaker 6>us that hold, you know, beliefs, about ourselves that are

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<v Speaker 6>also we believe we have like a centered core self

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<v Speaker 6>way the model works is the self I work with

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<v Speaker 6>kind of like the which Richard Swartz, who founded the model,

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<v Speaker 6>or each part within us to kind of play in harmony.

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<v Speaker 6>So if you worry a lot, or you're anxious, you're

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<v Speaker 2>You're not talking about you know, if the physical, you're

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<v Speaker 2>not talking about your shoulder and your knee and your ankle.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody understands that either in order to run, you have

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<v Speaker 2>you're not willing to work. But you're talking about internal

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<v Speaker 2>items in internal aspects, right.

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<v Speaker 6>I would think of it like various personalities within you.

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<v Speaker 6>I say, hey, do you want to have dessert? How

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<v Speaker 6>many different voices do you have in your head? When

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<v Speaker 6>Right? Well, a lot of people then would have a

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<v Speaker 2>I understand the point you're making, But thank god I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have those parts. Yeah, that's a guilt thing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's a guilt. I loved eating that that

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<v Speaker 6>feel those feelings, and it comes in with rage or

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<v Speaker 6>comes in with anger, and you could, like you said,

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<v Speaker 6>you can even watch yourself being angry, thinking, man, I

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<v Speaker 6>can't believe I'm actually saying this, I make the joke sometimes,

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<v Speaker 6>like I have a part that say don't say it,

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<v Speaker 6>don't say it, and blam, I say it and I'm like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did I say it?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, and we can't take those those messages back.

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<v Speaker 6>But the thing is is that, But there's.

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<v Speaker 2>Also and again I'm you know, everybody knows the whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing of of a fight or flight. You know, you're

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<v Speaker 2>walking down the street and you see someone who is

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<v Speaker 2>acting a little strange, okay, and most of us are empathetic,

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<v Speaker 2>but if the person is really acting out. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about that person who's screaming and yelling and howling at

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<v Speaker 2>the moon. We probably most of us, even if we're nice,

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<v Speaker 2>are not life going and say hey, Parl, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>How's your day going? I mean, you know, that's just

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<v Speaker 2>a sense of self preservation. I guess. Is that also

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<v Speaker 2>part of what you're talking about?

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<v Speaker 6>Well, you know, when if we reacted firmly set boundaries,

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<v Speaker 6>was very clear, collected and cool headed, you might say

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<v Speaker 6>ourself also has courage confidence like that could be a

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<v Speaker 6>natural state. But if you just went off the wall

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<v Speaker 6>and hurt the person, or if you like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>like cowered in the corner that you might say, those

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<v Speaker 6>are parts of you like younger parts might cower. So

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<v Speaker 6>there is You're right, there is a natural reaction that's

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<v Speaker 6>in our brain that would cause a fight or flight.

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<v Speaker 6>But oftentimes there's various parts of us that get involved

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<v Speaker 6>in how we end up responding. And basically my book

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<v Speaker 6>is about, like you notice, we often could be hurtful

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<v Speaker 6>to our partners. So my book talks about how do

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<v Speaker 6>you do this at work, at home with your kids,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, in spirituality even like who's praying right and

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<v Speaker 6>who's begging for something inside of you? But the idea

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<v Speaker 6>is if we could be with these parts and listen

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<v Speaker 6>to them, the more centered we are, we tend to

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<v Speaker 6>have better relationships because we don't say things and hurt

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<v Speaker 6>people and are not We're not as selfish, we're not

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<v Speaker 6>as controlling, we're not as like overly helping.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think at different times during the day, people

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<v Speaker 2>react to different things differently, And I suspect if people

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<v Speaker 2>were honest with themselves, uh, and they looked in the

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<v Speaker 2>mirror that say, well, I was nice at this point

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<v Speaker 2>during the day, but I was not nice at this

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<v Speaker 2>point during the day. I know my own idiosyncrasies that

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<v Speaker 2>I sometimes get frustrated when I see people who just

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<v Speaker 2>are what I call oblivious and I'm just not even

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<v Speaker 2>aware of the world around them, and they could care

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<v Speaker 2>less and uh, and they're impacting other people's day. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>you're you're in a in aupermarket and you're going trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get you know, you know, through the It's not

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<v Speaker 2>like the highlight of your day. So you've got to

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<v Speaker 2>go down this aisle, this aisle, pick up this, pick

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<v Speaker 2>up that. And there's someone who has the aisle blocked

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<v Speaker 2>because instead of having their carriage out of the way,

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<v Speaker 2>it's sort of like in an angle, so no one

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<v Speaker 2>can go either way. And they're standing there looking at

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<v Speaker 2>key and p's and trying to figure out which one

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<v Speaker 2>they want to buy, and you know, you want to scream,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but you can't do that. And so my

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<v Speaker 2>solution to that is when I walk by that person

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<v Speaker 2>in a very soft voice, I simply get it out

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<v Speaker 2>of my system and I use one of my favorite words, oblivious,

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<v Speaker 2>and I say it so that they don't hear it,

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<v Speaker 2>but it I know it penetrates their mind, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and that calms me down. Now I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>that's a good thing to do or a bad thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do. But you're the psychiatrist, I'm not go ahead,

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<v Speaker 2>Well I'm.

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<v Speaker 6>Not a psychiatrist. But if you were one of my

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<v Speaker 6>clients and we were like coaching you with this model,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't do it. Yes, like I got interested with therapist.

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<v Speaker 2>But.

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<v Speaker 6>Get to know I can help you. Get to know

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<v Speaker 6>this part of you who says that, and it will

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<v Speaker 6>probably say something like basically it's like almost like a

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<v Speaker 6>meditative thing where I have you okay, the part of

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<v Speaker 6>you that says oblivious, Can we talk to it? Let

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<v Speaker 6>it tell you how is it trying to help you?

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<v Speaker 6>And he might say I'm trying to get a message

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<v Speaker 6>across without comsanes scene. Yes, you know, like I'm helping you,

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<v Speaker 6>where other people they they kind of say something that

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<v Speaker 6>does create a scene, right Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I never do that because normal normally I

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<v Speaker 2>feel sorry for the person. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like you've cost me thirty seconds here, I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>so did you interrupted? You You finally recognized that something

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<v Speaker 2>that you're tying someone else up, and you pulled your

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<v Speaker 2>wagon out of the way, and I'm gonna go by

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll say thank you, and then I'll just mutter

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<v Speaker 2>under my breath, but I want them to come out subconsciously.

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<v Speaker 2>You're oblivious, right, but I guess then I walk away.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not like I said anything that was nasty, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're an idiot, all.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, right? Right? No, The's a lot of people do, right,

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<v Speaker 6>And oftentimes if somebody did come to me and say,

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know why, but I'll yell at somebody in

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<v Speaker 6>the grocery store, we'll get to know this part and

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<v Speaker 6>oftentimes those protectors will say who are you protecting? And

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<v Speaker 6>oftentimes it'll be a much younger part inside that feels

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<v Speaker 6>like I'm not good enough or nobody cares about me,

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<v Speaker 6>for instance. Right, So if somebody leaves the card in

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<v Speaker 6>front of you and it triggers just no one cares

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<v Speaker 6>about me, so the angry part has to come in

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<v Speaker 6>and take over, and before you say anything. What's really

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<v Speaker 6>important is to know is these parts are kind of

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<v Speaker 6>like stuck in time, so that when we react, it's

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<v Speaker 6>almost like we're reacting to something else in the past.

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<v Speaker 6>That's why you most see people over reacting like this

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't make sense that you would act this way in

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<v Speaker 6>this situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So so let's let's mention the book. Is the book just

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<v Speaker 2>out or is it a been out for a while.

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<v Speaker 6>It's been out about a year and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's good. Well, we're going to try to get

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<v Speaker 2>sell you some more books. It's called self led Living

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<v Speaker 2>a Connected Life within yourself and with others. I assume

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<v Speaker 2>available on Amazon and bookstores. Uh, and.

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<v Speaker 6>Go ahead, Yeah, easy read. People say it's actually probably

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<v Speaker 6>one of the easiest reads for an IFS book, and

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<v Speaker 6>it's a really good introduction. And if people want to

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<v Speaker 6>sign copy, they could just go to my website Sethcopall

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<v Speaker 6>dot com. And I always write a little note and

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<v Speaker 6>sign it before I mail.

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<v Speaker 2>That Seth Coppold. So it's s E T H K

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<v Speaker 2>O p A l D k O p A l D.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Seth, thank you very much. Interesting conversation. I

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<v Speaker 2>could talk with you for hours, and I've probably been

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<v Speaker 2>a person as a consequence. So I'm going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to get the book and give it a read. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you for having me appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>You're very welcome. We get back. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about another author. Please unsubscribe. This might be something that

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<v Speaker 2>all of us will be able to relate to Back

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<v Speaker 2>on Nightside with Julio Vincent Gimbuto. Back after this, It's

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<v Speaker 2>Night Side with Boston's News Radio. Very good boy. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>we are delighted to be joined by Julio Vincent Gambudo. Julio,

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<v Speaker 2>welcome to Nightside. How are you?

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks Dan, hello of Boston.

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<v Speaker 3>Great to be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just want to make sure it can be Julio.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the correct pronunciation?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Julio, it's Julio. Actually, yeah, it's Italian.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh Julio. Okay, we got the Italian acts. Julio, Julio,

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<v Speaker 2>Vincent Gambuto. Absolutely all right. So your book is please unsubscribe. Thanks,

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<v Speaker 2>How to take back our time, attention, and purpose in

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<v Speaker 2>a world designed to bury us in And I can't

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<v Speaker 2>say the word, and I hope you won't say the

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<v Speaker 2>word on the radio. But I think everybody knows what

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about. Uh, what are we talking about in

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<v Speaker 2>the book, Julio, We're.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we're talking about sort of getting really aware

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<v Speaker 4>of how these tech systems operate and kind of how

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<v Speaker 4>the way of the world is now and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>actively stay from it when you need to for as

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<v Speaker 4>long as you need to do to kind of get

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<v Speaker 4>your mind in order, because this is kind of a

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<v Speaker 4>really different ballgame than we used to play.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are we talking about? The unsolicited phone calls

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<v Speaker 2>you get at dinner time, in which you know people

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<v Speaker 2>want to sell you stuff.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I mean sort of.

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<v Speaker 4>I think phone calls like that are certainly a part

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<v Speaker 4>of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, my work zeros in on subscriptions as a

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<v Speaker 4>as kind of a model for our new economy and

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<v Speaker 4>digital capitalism and how that's different than the capitalism that

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<v Speaker 4>you and I grew up with. And uh and and

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<v Speaker 4>and understanding what it means to really subscribe and be.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, we're losing you here, Julia, we're losing you here.

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<v Speaker 2>For a second. Are you Are you in a car?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you moving around? Yeah? Pick rob, Rob will pick up,

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<v Speaker 2>pick them up, and we'll get this cleaned up. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>My guest is Julio Vincent Gambudo, an author and a

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<v Speaker 2>movie maker. Uh. And he has a new book called

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<v Speaker 2>Please Unsubscribe. Thanks. It then has a longer subtitle, which

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<v Speaker 2>of course we can get to. And I want to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that we under did we lose them there?

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<v Speaker 2>We lost them totally. Oh okay, great, Okay, it's The

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<v Speaker 2>Wonders of Electronics here on radio. Sorry, so let me

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<v Speaker 2>just uh, he's this This book apparently has been well received,

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<v Speaker 2>named the Nonfiction Pick of the Month by Barnes and

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<v Speaker 2>Noble and last summer. Okay, Julia, you're back. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you go through a tunnel or something.

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<v Speaker 4>I think maybe my phone knows what I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 4>and it just just decided to draw.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, as long as you if you're in a hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>a location where you're near a window, that's the best thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're on a cell phone. Okay. So what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to say is what are we talking about. I've

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<v Speaker 2>been with you two minutes here. I want to see

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<v Speaker 2>what we're talking about. How to take back our time, attention,

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<v Speaker 2>and purpose in the world designed to bury us in,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, bad stuff. I thought when I read the

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<v Speaker 2>title that we were talking about the junk mail you

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<v Speaker 2>get every day that you have to throw away, the

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<v Speaker 2>telephone calls. I get someone calling me last night. They

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<v Speaker 2>want to I don't know, they want to sell me

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<v Speaker 2>something about a car. I just no matter what it is,

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<v Speaker 2>the car. I've never owned a car on my life.

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<v Speaker 2>Please take me off your list. Someone will call up

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<v Speaker 2>and tell you that life insurance. Oh I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>get life insurance. Why is that because I'm suicidal? Hang up?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, just be crazy with them. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's because other than that they keep calling back. They do.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, we live in an economy now where

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<v Speaker 4>your name and your phone number and your email address

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<v Speaker 4>are everywhere, even when you think they're not, they are.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, kind of government efforts to curb that

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<v Speaker 4>have really, really really not worked. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the book is really about kind of taking back our

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<v Speaker 4>power against large, large corporations and really really big marketers

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<v Speaker 4>and kind of carving a space out for ourselves again.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so give me a couple of concrete recommendations, A

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<v Speaker 2>couple of concrete what I do sometimes, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>I have a lot of I could I could write

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<v Speaker 2>a book like this. I think what I will do.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone will call me up and they'll say whatever they're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to sell me, and say, oh, thank you for calling.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to go get a pen and paper. I

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<v Speaker 2>need to get all the information and I'll give you

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to get my credit card. Can you

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<v Speaker 2>hold on for a minute, and of course I excite

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<v Speaker 2>them and they say absolutely, And you know what I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I put the phone down and I walk away, and

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<v Speaker 2>about thirty minutes later, thirty minutes later at least, I

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<v Speaker 2>call it. I pick it back up, and I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>are you still there? And they're never there?

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<v Speaker 4>No, no, they yeah, they don't like.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me, give me a couple of a couple of things. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>give me a couple of things that that we can do,

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<v Speaker 2>that we can do together. Would they they call you

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<v Speaker 2>up and they'll say you've won a prize or they no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I know they want to ask your questions a poll,

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<v Speaker 2>and I say, I'm delighted. I'm a professional poster. Where

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<v Speaker 2>do I send my bill for my services? And they

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<v Speaker 2>had no idea what I'm talking about. And my wife

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<v Speaker 2>is looking at me like I'm crazy. And they'll say, well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't pay people. I said, you don't pay people.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a poster. You've called me. I'm ready to give

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<v Speaker 2>you my answers and they hang up on me.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you know that's a that's a perfect way to

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<v Speaker 4>sort of fight back in the phone call, right, Yeah, I.

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<v Speaker 6>Think you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Concrete wise, it's important. Look, I do things like I

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<v Speaker 4>go out to lunch without my phone. I will go

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<v Speaker 4>to a meeting and make sure that you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>actually know where I'm going, and I don't use GPS.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't do this every day. I don't do it

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<v Speaker 4>all the time, but I do think it's important to

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<v Speaker 4>kind of challenge yourself in these small ways to stop

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<v Speaker 4>relying on it all so much. It's there to help us,

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<v Speaker 4>It's been sold to help us, but what it winds

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<v Speaker 4>up doing is sort of putting our day to day

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<v Speaker 4>behavior on autopilot. And you know, a society that is

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<v Speaker 4>on an autopilot can sort of, you know, go to

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<v Speaker 4>very bad places. So I think it's important to, even

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<v Speaker 4>just as an individual, challenge yourself to do little things

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<v Speaker 4>like that. Yeah, you know, I write a lot about

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<v Speaker 4>email subscriptions and the subscriptions you know that are buried

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<v Speaker 4>within your checking account. You know, it's like eighty percent

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<v Speaker 4>of Americans can overestimate how much they spend on subscriptions,

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<v Speaker 4>and sometimes by about two hundred or three hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 4>a month.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're not here, Julie. When you say subscriptions, I

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<v Speaker 2>think magazine subscriptions. What are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm talking about everything from your Netflix subscription to those

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<v Speaker 4>magazine subscriptions, to anything where you've you've clicked online and

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<v Speaker 4>you've agreed to pay monthly. Horrible, horrible, right, So most

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>That your book got some great reviews, and I really

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<v Speaker 1>hope people will get a copy of it and read it,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're all being sucked into this vortex.

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<v Speaker 2>You're trying to keep us out of the vortex, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and I appreciate that your book has received great reviews.

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<v Speaker 2>It is please unsubscribe. Thanks. How to take back our time, attention,

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<v Speaker 2>and purpose in a world designed to bury us? And

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<v Speaker 2>the other thing, too, is if you get any emails

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't recognize the person, never ever ever click

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<v Speaker 2>on him. Delete, delete, delete, and if possible, block the number.

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<v Speaker 2>Simple as that. Julio, thank you so much. I wish

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<v Speaker 2>I had more time, and maybe we'll have you back

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<v Speaker 2>in the next few weeks and we'll focus a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll focus the interview better. I wasn't quite sure where

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted to take us. We can do this again.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, sounds good. It was a pleasure to be here.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Right back at you, Julio. Vincent Cambudo. Please unsubscribe. Thanks available.

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<v Speaker 2>When we come back, we're going to talk about up

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<v Speaker 2>in New Hampshire. New Hampshire, like Massachusetts, does mandate motor

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<v Speaker 2>vehicle inspections. Up in New Hampshire, there's a move to

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of the motor vehicle inspections and I think

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<v Speaker 2>it presents of very interesting argument. Back on Nightside with

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<v Speaker 2>the Deputy Speaker of the House of the New Hampshire

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<v Speaker 2>State House of Representatives, Representative Stephen Smith, right after the

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<v Speaker 2>break here on Nightside, the news break