WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:08.400 Big Food and Beyond with Cliff and Bubo. 2 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:10.480 These guys are your favorites. 3 00:00:10.880 --> 00:00:16.199 So like Shay, subscribe and rain it five stary s me. 4 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:21.920 Great, Just go on yesterday and listening watching. 5 00:00:23.199 --> 00:00:28.879 Always keep its watching. And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman 6 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:30.440 and James Bubo Fay. 7 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:31.960 Greetings, Bobo. 8 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:33.119 There's up Cliff. 9 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:36.679 Lots of stuff as usual, just cruising through summer and 10 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:39.159 being busy man as a as a whole. 11 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:40.079 So what's up with you? 12 00:00:40.159 --> 00:00:40.719 Anything good? 13 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:41.439 Nothing? 14 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:43.960 I mean, I'll have more news next week, but this 15 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:45.799 week now, but next you guys should ask some pretty 16 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:49.600 hopefully exciting stuff I've had. What have happened transpired in 17 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:50.759 the meantime. 18 00:00:51.399 --> 00:00:53.560 Give me a hint about any any teasers for me? 19 00:00:54.399 --> 00:00:55.759 DNA baby DNA? 20 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:58.679 Oh well, we'll see, we'll see, I hope. 21 00:00:58.719 --> 00:01:01.960 So at the temperatures cool down a little bit. 22 00:01:02.560 --> 00:01:05.079 Temperature dependent DNA news, Huh, that's weird. 23 00:01:05.159 --> 00:01:07.480 Yeah, I got to retrieve it and I'm not going 24 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:10.159 to go up. I just got beat up pretty bad 25 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:13.480 by the heat, so I'm gonna make sure it's not 26 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.879 excessive like triple digits if I go out there fair enough. 27 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:21.079 Well, yeah, things have been happening around here. As usual, 28 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:23.760 I got word. I did not get a chance to 29 00:01:23.799 --> 00:01:26.760 investigate this one, but our good friend Tyler Bounds gave 30 00:01:26.799 --> 00:01:28.959 me a call, I guess, and he reported that a 31 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:33.319 friend of his saw a sasquatch up in Ridgefield, just 32 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:36.959 north of Vancouver. It's like, not quite suburbia, but it's 33 00:01:36.959 --> 00:01:38.959 not quite deep woods either, you know, it's kind of 34 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:41.480 in between. And at first, as you can Ridgefield, how 35 00:01:41.480 --> 00:01:43.799 could that be true? You know, you know, but it's 36 00:01:43.840 --> 00:01:47.439 the Pacific Northwest. There's pockets of woods everywhere. And so 37 00:01:47.519 --> 00:01:51.040 he told me the location. It was this park over 38 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:54.920 near the Columbia River kind of, and there was a 39 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:57.840 tributary to the Columbia flowing through the park. And it's 40 00:01:57.879 --> 00:01:59.879 a very very heavily wooded park in general. 41 00:02:00.480 --> 00:02:00.680 Yeah. 42 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:04.200 Yeah, Whipple Creek Regional Park apparently had a sasquatch siding 43 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.040 in it. And when you do a quick Google search 44 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:08.599 on it, you can see it's like, oh, yeah, yeah, 45 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:12.080 that's very doable. Some people might not think so, but 46 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.120 those people are be incorrect, as it turns out, because 47 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.759 when you look at Whipple Creek and you say, oh, well, 48 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:20.319 the town's just a little bit there's suburbia just to 49 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:22.960 the south and a little bit to the east of it. 50 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:24.960 Say well, yeah, but look at all the green way 51 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:29.680 that you have between this park and the Columbia River 52 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:31.919 and all the other green ways around there. And when 53 00:02:31.960 --> 00:02:35.000 you consider like Savvie Islands right there, Sauvie Islands right 54 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:38.680 across the channel, and there have been sightings on Sauvie Island, 55 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:40.840 and of course on the other side of Sauvie Island 56 00:02:40.919 --> 00:02:43.319 in this general area of Scatpoos, there's stuff right outside 57 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:47.400 of Skatpoos. The whole thing makes sense. This particular siding, 58 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:50.240 I guess a couple people were horseback riding and they 59 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:54.080 were going above rather deep forested canyon and there was 60 00:02:54.120 --> 00:02:56.759 a river at the bottom. It wasn't like a thousand 61 00:02:56.800 --> 00:02:58.960 feet down. I get the feeling. I didn't go to 62 00:02:59.000 --> 00:03:01.319 the location because I didn't exactly where it was. I 63 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:03.400 got the feeling. Is more like thirty or maybe fifty 64 00:03:03.439 --> 00:03:06.240 feet deep. And these guys were horseback riding and they 65 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:08.240 thought they saw a bear in the creek down below, 66 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:12.520 but apparently it wasn't. It was a hairy human shape 67 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:14.840 sort of thing about maybe nee or waist deep in 68 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.439 the water doing something in the water, and apparently they 69 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:20.039 got a pretty decent look at it for a decent 70 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.479 amount of time. I don't know. Again, I did not 71 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:25.960 speak to the witnesses. I asked for the contact information, 72 00:03:26.000 --> 00:03:28.240 but just did not pan out, you know. And there 73 00:03:28.240 --> 00:03:30.719 were people walking their dogs or whatever in the area. 74 00:03:30.800 --> 00:03:33.759 They didn't see the thing though, because they didn't have 75 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:36.599 a good angle on it. The people on horseback had 76 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:37.479 a good angle on it. 77 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:40.000 I'm looking at it right now. That's not much of 78 00:03:40.039 --> 00:03:42.479 a hiving swat for a squash. The mist of all 79 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:44.919 those people I get seem like if I get through 80 00:03:44.960 --> 00:03:47.039 it a nighttime, getting stuck, like, oh, it's gonna get lights. 81 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:48.199 So I was gonna hang out here. 82 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:50.759 Yeah, But put it in context of all that work 83 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:53.000 that we did back east, you know, like in Ohio 84 00:03:53.159 --> 00:03:56.840 or or Pennsylvania or Minnesota. It's like, that's the kind 85 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.000 of stuff they hang out in back there, and we 86 00:03:59.039 --> 00:04:01.039 should fully expect to do that out here. 87 00:04:01.879 --> 00:04:03.680 I think I'm saying they wouldn't. I mean, it's close 88 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:05.319 to the river and all that. Yeah, there's I mean, 89 00:04:05.319 --> 00:04:07.319 there's I can see him being in there. I'm not 90 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:08.960 saying they wouldn't be in there, but now that's a 91 00:04:09.039 --> 00:04:11.400 small place and for how much open space sorce of 92 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:14.639 Pacific Northwest, that's pretty human human zone for them. 93 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:17.560 Yeah yeah, well, I mean it is what it is. 94 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:19.600 I mean, there's there's that natural area on the other 95 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:20.800 side of the five and if you know, if they're 96 00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:23.639 crawling around through that area, I don't know. It kind 97 00:04:23.639 --> 00:04:26.639 of makes sense to me, especially since there's a long 98 00:04:26.759 --> 00:04:29.399 history of stuff up in that general area, like outside 99 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:31.720 of Battleground. We usually get a reporter too outside of 100 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:34.560 Battleground almost every year, and that's kind of the same 101 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:36.439 sort of habitat close. 102 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:38.759 Is this is that money maker crossing zone on the five, 103 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:41.800 the one he was publicizing pretty hard. 104 00:04:41.879 --> 00:04:44.120 Oh oh, that was up by Great Wolflage. I think 105 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:46.160 a couple of years ago during December when one ran 106 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:47.680 across the five. Is that what you're talking about. 107 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:51.519 There's a couple there's several settings along this the last 108 00:04:51.680 --> 00:04:53.639 couple of years on the same spot area. 109 00:04:54.439 --> 00:04:56.920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is actually south of Ridgefield a 110 00:04:56.959 --> 00:04:58.839 little bit. But yeah, there's there's a lot of good 111 00:04:58.839 --> 00:05:00.680 habit It doesn't look like much on a but you know, 112 00:05:00.680 --> 00:05:03.000 as you're driving through the area, it is is very 113 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:06.199 very reasonable and also look at the river like right 114 00:05:06.199 --> 00:05:07.879 there to the west of there, and look at the 115 00:05:07.920 --> 00:05:12.079 river like a grand z There's a lot of woods 116 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:16.079 and riparian zone and habitat in there a lot. There's 117 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:18.240 a wonderful siding. I don't have a lot of sightings 118 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:20.800 from Savvie Island in general because it's so it's just 119 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:23.519 farmed for the most part. But I did pull a 120 00:05:23.600 --> 00:05:25.959 really nice sighting this past year. I think it was squash. 121 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:27.759 I think it was this past year a squatch fest. 122 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:30.120 A woman told me about a siding up on the 123 00:05:30.160 --> 00:05:33.079 northern side of Sauvie Island in the sort of like 124 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:35.439 a swampy sort of areas that you can see in there. 125 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.439 And this is two miles three miles from that general zone. Yeah, 126 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:41.759 it kind of makes sense to me in general, But 127 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:43.759 so that was kind of cool. It was neat to 128 00:05:43.800 --> 00:05:45.360 see that one was in so close. 129 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:48.439 So was it what thom of day was in about? 130 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:50.759 Like it was daylight? Yeah? What time daylight? 131 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:52.040 I don't know. I got the feeling it was like 132 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:54.519 afternoon or something. Again, I didn't didn't have a chance 133 00:05:54.519 --> 00:05:56.399 to speak to the witness. Tyler would have more information, 134 00:05:56.959 --> 00:05:59.759 so we call him right August for details while he's working. 135 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.800 It is a it is a Monday right now. Yeah, 136 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:04.920 but yeah, anyway, hopefully maybe maybe there might be more 137 00:06:05.000 --> 00:06:07.639 information coming up. I was hoping to get to the 138 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:10.279 location with the witness because you know, if I didn't 139 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:12.639 know where it was, I could spend all day walking 140 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:15.160 around to that park and not fine. Oh yeah, yeah, 141 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:18.160 But apparently the thing was down in the water doing something, 142 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:20.480 you know, and the guys watched it for a few 143 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:23.240 moments and it clewed in that it was being seen 144 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:25.879 or maybe you know, it could see the people and 145 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:28.240 like looked at them for a moment and then just 146 00:06:28.319 --> 00:06:30.600 walked out of the out of the creek and into 147 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:32.519 the woods. And that's the last I saw it. 148 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:34.639 I'm not surprised one would like spend the day and 149 00:06:34.680 --> 00:06:36.600 they're like, you know, because it was going place to 150 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:38.560 place and it got kind of stuck in between two 151 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:40.920 great habitat zones that you know, they're not hemmed in 152 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:43.800 like doing stuff like visible in the daytime, like in 153 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:46.600 a creek, visible from the trailer. Just asked the part 154 00:06:46.600 --> 00:06:49.600 that's like, well, that's that's a pretty bold squatch. 155 00:06:50.360 --> 00:06:52.800 Yeah, well they're all doing something right now, Like every 156 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:54.480 big Foot of Live is out there doing something at 157 00:06:54.519 --> 00:06:58.160 this very moment. I don't know. I guess another in 158 00:06:58.199 --> 00:07:01.120 Bigfoot news, of course, is I would. I was out 159 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:03.360 of town all weekend. I went to I went up 160 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:05.560 to the Olympic Project property and hung out with the 161 00:07:05.560 --> 00:07:08.519 good folks up there. Yeah, that was good fun. Lots 162 00:07:08.560 --> 00:07:11.399 of people are up there, too many to name, of course, 163 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:13.279 but I think for me, at least the highlights. It's 164 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:15.079 always great to see Shane and his family of course, 165 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:17.480 and Derek Randalls is great. Derek said that I need 166 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:19.920 to start bugging him about coming on the podcast, and 167 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:21.519 so I will be happy to do that. I'll be 168 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:23.600 calling Derek this week and trying to set something up. 169 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:25.240 He said he'd be more than happy to come on 170 00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:27.480 the podcast and hang out. He goes, although he hasn't 171 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:29.879 been doing much Bigfoot, he personally has not been doing 172 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.399 much big but stuff lately. He's been more focused on 173 00:07:32.519 --> 00:07:35.000 hiking very tall mountains and being in shape and stuff 174 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:38.639 like that. Yeah, he's super into that right now. You know, 175 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:40.680 Derek is like always one hundred and ten percent into 176 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:43.959 anything he's doing. Yeah, yeah, right now it's I guess 177 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:46.000 when he hit sixty he said, I'm going to be 178 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:47.439 in the best shape of my life right now and 179 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:50.839 decided to do it. And godspeed man. Like he's killing it. 180 00:07:51.240 --> 00:07:54.839 He's really in the hiking up like he's in these 181 00:07:55.000 --> 00:07:57.160 like hiking clubs and stuff where the whole point is 182 00:07:57.199 --> 00:08:01.399 to gain elevation. I guess, yeah, really really into that. 183 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:03.399 But so he said, I don't know what I talk about. 184 00:08:03.439 --> 00:08:04.839 I haven't been doing too much. I said, dude, we're 185 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:06.600 going to talk about all the stuff you did do 186 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:08.959 like we're going to talk about your time with Krantz. 187 00:08:09.000 --> 00:08:11.120 We're going to talk about your time with doctor Meldrum 188 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:13.240 and the North American eight Project. I mean, I bet 189 00:08:13.240 --> 00:08:15.120 a lot of our listeners have never even heard of 190 00:08:15.160 --> 00:08:17.439 the North American eight Project, but yet it was a 191 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:20.399 huge thing back in the late nineties and early two thousands. 192 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:23.199 And speaking of which, one of the highlights by far 193 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.439 of my weekend up at the op the Olympic Project 194 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:28.680 property and was hanging out with John Pickering. Oh my god, 195 00:08:28.759 --> 00:08:33.200 John is a legend. He was everywhere and nobody so 196 00:08:33.320 --> 00:08:36.960 almost nobody nowadays knows who he is. It's like, oh man, 197 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.399 and it's still kind of a recluse. But we and 198 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:41.919 I get along really well because we're both, you know, 199 00:08:42.080 --> 00:08:44.240 diehard introverts at the end of the day, and we 200 00:08:44.320 --> 00:08:46.440 totally understand like, yeah, I don't there's people there. I 201 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:48.960 don't want to go there. You know, we totally, we 202 00:08:49.080 --> 00:08:53.200 totally understand each other. Yeah, he's awesome. Yeah I learned 203 00:08:53.240 --> 00:08:55.720 a lot from him as well. He's just so cool. 204 00:08:56.240 --> 00:08:58.440 So yeah, I did that this past weekend. So I 205 00:08:58.440 --> 00:09:03.000 got home and I went into work yesterday, today's Monday. 206 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:06.320 So on Sunday, I went into work. A couple interesting emails. 207 00:09:06.360 --> 00:09:09.240 There's a game camera picture that clearly shows an eye 208 00:09:09.399 --> 00:09:12.000 of something and a bunch of other goodness knows what. 209 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:14.840 I suspect it's a bear, you know, sniff in the camera. 210 00:09:15.240 --> 00:09:18.360 There's another email with a photograph of a footprint cast 211 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:20.399 that they needed help identifying, and it turned out to 212 00:09:20.399 --> 00:09:23.279 be in my opinion, I think it's an old copy 213 00:09:23.600 --> 00:09:26.879 of the Peter Burn nineteen sixty track that has all 214 00:09:26.919 --> 00:09:29.360 sorts of weird things around it. Of course, and you 215 00:09:29.360 --> 00:09:31.559 can always read about that on the Cliffberrickman dot com 216 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:36.000 website in the track database. But also while I was there. Coincidentally, 217 00:09:36.039 --> 00:09:37.399 while I was there, and this is what I love 218 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.240 about the bigfoot thing. And I can totally see why 219 00:09:39.240 --> 00:09:42.759 people say, oh see, yes, paranormal. It's like, nah, relax, 220 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:45.600 everything's cool. Turns out that weird things happen in life. 221 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:49.120 While I was there, somebody called in to the shop 222 00:09:49.320 --> 00:09:52.159 wanting to tell us about running in possibly running into 223 00:09:52.159 --> 00:09:56.000 a sasquatch the day before at the Sandy Hatchery. I 224 00:09:56.039 --> 00:09:59.080 live in Sandy, Oregon, and there's a hatchery not too 225 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:01.399 far away, you know, out in the woods there, and 226 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.919 somebody was down fishing, I guess, at five or six 227 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:06.919 o'clock at night, in the general zone of the Sandy 228 00:10:07.600 --> 00:10:11.320 Sandy Hatchery there, and they didn't see anybody else. There 229 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:13.679 were a couple of fishermen around, they know because the 230 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:16.159 parking lot, but they didn't see anybody else. And they 231 00:10:16.200 --> 00:10:18.200 didn't see a sasquatch either. I want to make that clear. 232 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:20.440 They're down there on one of the Sandy beaches next 233 00:10:20.480 --> 00:10:22.919 to the Sandy River. A lot of Sandy words being 234 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:24.720 thrown around right now. Yeah, but they're on one of 235 00:10:24.759 --> 00:10:27.279 these beaches down by the Sandy River fishing. And it 236 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:29.519 was again five or six o'clock at night, so plenty 237 00:10:29.519 --> 00:10:33.840 of lights still, and they heard a big splash. And 238 00:10:34.120 --> 00:10:36.000 they saw the splash, but they didn't see what made it. 239 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.080 And the guy thought, oh man, that's a big salmon. 240 00:10:38.279 --> 00:10:41.000 Holy smokes, that salmon just rolled right. And so because 241 00:10:41.000 --> 00:10:43.440 again everybody fish is at the hattery, you know, because 242 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:45.799 if they For those people who don't live in the 243 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:48.799 Pacific Northwest, I guess a clue to the puzzle here 244 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:51.759 is that you aren't allowed to eat wild fish. You 245 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.840 aren't allowed to fish for salmon or steel ahead that 246 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:57.840 are wild and eat them. You have to let those go. 247 00:10:58.639 --> 00:11:02.240 But if you can and fact fish for and keep 248 00:11:02.480 --> 00:11:06.720 and eat hatchery salmon. And so everybody fishes by the 249 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:08.440 hatchery because that's where all the fish are going anyway, 250 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:10.759 the ones that you're allowed to eat. Somebody fishes in 251 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:13.399 that general zone. It makes sense, right, they're concentrated there. 252 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:15.399 So anyway, he was there and he heard there heard 253 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:17.279 a splash, and didn't he thought it was a salmon. 254 00:11:17.360 --> 00:11:19.919 He starts casting at it, and like a minute or 255 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:23.679 two later, something catches his eye at a corner of 256 00:11:23.679 --> 00:11:27.360 his eye, and it's another rock. Apparently the first splash 257 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.440 was a rock, and this one is another rock, and 258 00:11:30.120 --> 00:11:33.559 he sees it and it splashes into the river, and 259 00:11:33.600 --> 00:11:36.600 this one's large enough that it grinds against the stones 260 00:11:37.320 --> 00:11:40.080 in the water. I love how deep it was there. 261 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:41.720 But you know, you know, we've all heard that noise, 262 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.200 right pretty much. Yeah, So and he goes, oh my god, 263 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:48.000 what was that? And he gets pissed because he's not 264 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:51.440 thinking bigfoot, you know, and he thought, like, who the 265 00:11:51.480 --> 00:11:54.279 hell's throwing rocks at us? And so he actually throws 266 00:11:54.279 --> 00:11:57.759 his rod down on the ground and runs up the 267 00:11:57.919 --> 00:12:00.720 up the bank or whatever, say, who the hell did that? 268 00:12:01.000 --> 00:12:03.399 He was ready to bust some heads, basically, is what 269 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:06.360 it sounded like. And he doesn't see anybody. He goes 270 00:12:06.399 --> 00:12:08.440 the other direction, doesn't see anybody, looks in the woods, 271 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:11.799 doesn't see anybody. He's going like, what in the what 272 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:13.360 the heck's going on? 273 00:12:13.559 --> 00:12:13.759 Right? 274 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:18.159 And then another minute or two later, another rock comes in, 275 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:21.600 and this time it lands about ten feet from his 276 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:25.559 girlfriend on the beach, on the sand itself. And this 277 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:28.279 rock is about the size of a basketball, is the 278 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:29.000 way he explained. 279 00:12:29.120 --> 00:12:31.120 Oh man, how far did it come from? 280 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:35.879 Don't know, don't know, right, So he's thinking like, what, 281 00:12:35.960 --> 00:12:38.159 oh my, what the heck is this? And he doesn't 282 00:12:38.159 --> 00:12:41.279 see anybody, and he's going, this is just too weird, man, 283 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:44.399 And so they leave. Basically, they leave. They decided to 284 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:47.639 get out, and so they start walking out. They cross 285 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:50.039 this little stream or whatever in there, and about another 286 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:53.320 he said, about another two or three hundred yards after 287 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.279 that little stream, the stream Cedar Creek right there, which 288 00:12:56.320 --> 00:12:59.080 is where the hatter is. Two or three hundred yards later, 289 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:03.120 as a walking out, they hear a big tree knock 290 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:06.559 from behind them, you know, like a real big, loud 291 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.279 tree knock from behind them in that general zone, and 292 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.600 he goes, He goes, He's just going, what in the world, 293 00:13:11.679 --> 00:13:12.120 what is that? 294 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:12.480 You know? 295 00:13:12.600 --> 00:13:14.919 So they go home and they're talking about it. They 296 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:16.840 don't know what to think about it. They start looking 297 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:20.200 on the internet and asking AI and whatever, and they 298 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:23.919 start like, oh my god, a bigfoot? What maybe? Oh 299 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:26.320 my god. And so he calls me. He calls the 300 00:13:26.360 --> 00:13:27.919 shop when I happen to be there, which is a 301 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:30.600 cool part. I love the coincidence aspect of that sort 302 00:13:30.639 --> 00:13:35.240 of thing. Stay tuned for more Bigfoot and Beyond with 303 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:38.080 Cliff and Bobo. Will be right back after these messages. 304 00:13:44.600 --> 00:13:46.759 So he calls me and tells me about the whole thing, 305 00:13:46.879 --> 00:13:48.399 and then I said, oh, well, shoot, I got to 306 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:50.879 get down there that night. I had some work. I'm 307 00:13:50.879 --> 00:13:54.039 helping my neighbor, my great neighbor, Gary build a shelter 308 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:57.799 like a building sort of thing for his mill. So 309 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:00.360 I had that took up my afternoon, and we're doing 310 00:14:00.360 --> 00:14:01.759 the roofing right now of all that. So I was 311 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:03.960 down there helping him with all that. But around five 312 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:06.720 or six o'clock at night, I know, about four thirty 313 00:14:06.799 --> 00:14:09.000 or five, actually, I went down there, and I convinced 314 00:14:09.039 --> 00:14:11.000 Melissa to go too, which is kind of fun. She 315 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:14.960 rarely goes out with me because she doesn't like going 316 00:14:15.120 --> 00:14:18.559 cross country or going bushwhacking or going to swamps, and 317 00:14:18.600 --> 00:14:21.080 that is generally what I tend to do, it seems. 318 00:14:21.480 --> 00:14:23.519 But anyway, she came down with me anyway, and we 319 00:14:23.600 --> 00:14:26.399 went down there and spooked around for a while, and 320 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:29.159 you know, I spent about forty five minutes or an 321 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:32.799 hour looking around, and then I started focusing on, Okay, 322 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:35.080 where could the rocks come from? If I was, you know, 323 00:14:35.320 --> 00:14:38.399 seven or eight feet tall, maybe maybe i'd put myself 324 00:14:38.399 --> 00:14:40.679 in that kind of place. And I found a couple 325 00:14:40.639 --> 00:14:43.759 of maybes. I found some things that may or may 326 00:14:43.759 --> 00:14:46.600 not be trying. I mean, there were areas of soil 327 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:49.440 that were definitely disturbed. I'll go ahead and send these 328 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:50.720 to you right now, because I don't think I've done 329 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.200 that yet. But yeah, pretty interesting stuff. And of course 330 00:14:54.360 --> 00:14:57.879 since I've opened the museum and started collecting reports locally 331 00:14:57.960 --> 00:14:59.919 like that, I think there's been five or six now. 332 00:15:00.240 --> 00:15:02.240 I think it might be the six to one six 333 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:06.120 report between you know, Class B stuff like this and 334 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:11.519 actual observations of sasquatches between the hatchery and bull Run 335 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:14.399 basically you know, which is right right downstream, just like 336 00:15:14.399 --> 00:15:15.399 a mile or so away. 337 00:15:16.000 --> 00:15:19.559 Yes, I are an ABC post on that. Yeah. 338 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:22.720 Oh, and of course release that new video as well. 339 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:25.600 I saw that you commented on the Bobo is of 340 00:15:25.639 --> 00:15:27.600 course a museum member, and he was nice enough to 341 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:30.840 comment on that. I think my museum members get a 342 00:15:30.879 --> 00:15:32.799 kick out of that, So thank you, Bobo. 343 00:15:33.159 --> 00:15:34.600 And you and ever are like, oh my god, you 344 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:35.120 know Bobo. 345 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:39.039 A lot of times they come in and point to 346 00:15:39.159 --> 00:15:41.919 the sculpt of Bobo's head that Wilsten made us, and 347 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:43.159 they say, oh my god, look at that. 348 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:44.120 Yeah. 349 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:48.759 So I found four possible tracks. Three of them were 350 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:53.519 together about forty two or forty four inches apart, and 351 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:56.240 then one of them was about twenty or thirty feet 352 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:59.639 away in the general direction. And none of them are 353 00:15:59.720 --> 00:16:01.360 very good. I just sent you all four of them. 354 00:16:01.600 --> 00:16:03.200 None of them are very good at all. I'm not 355 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:05.000 going to, you know, hype these things up at all. 356 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.399 But one of them looks pretty okay. One of them 357 00:16:07.440 --> 00:16:09.960 you can say, oh, that might be something, you know, 358 00:16:10.559 --> 00:16:12.000 which is the first one I found. And then I 359 00:16:12.039 --> 00:16:15.240 found one after it, And then I took that measurement 360 00:16:16.120 --> 00:16:18.720 and taped it back like a tracking stick, you know, 361 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:20.480 And that's where I found the other one. So I 362 00:16:20.519 --> 00:16:25.320 found three consecutive tracks, all about the same size and 363 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:27.440 all about the same distance away from each other, and 364 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:29.600 then another one twenty or thirty feet away, I guess, 365 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:32.919 so interesting stuff. And of course, yeah, sure that happens 366 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:34.720 down there. That's one of the things that happens down there. 367 00:16:34.840 --> 00:16:37.879 They do hear knocks down there. They do occasionally get 368 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.240 rock throwings in that general area. But it's organ that's 369 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:43.720 what happens here. So that's what. That's more or less 370 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:46.279 the news I have except for fires man. Are you 371 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:46.960 safe from fires? 372 00:16:47.000 --> 00:16:47.320 Bobo? 373 00:16:48.080 --> 00:16:50.879 Yeah? We had one. This was like a week and 374 00:16:50.919 --> 00:16:52.480 a half ago. I was sitting here, and also I've 375 00:16:52.480 --> 00:16:54.639 seen this smoke just building up and it came forward 376 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:57.480 by Polly Live was directly north of me, and I 377 00:16:57.480 --> 00:16:59.159 called him. I said, dude, what's going on? Because there 378 00:16:59.200 --> 00:17:00.799 was like a fire truck something next to the fire 379 00:17:00.879 --> 00:17:04.559 sits they ripping out, and then we started hearing like, 380 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:07.279 you know, four or five six helicopters are making runs, 381 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:10.680 you know, like getting water from the river. Like, well, 382 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:12.759 you know what's going on. I called him and said, 383 00:17:13.279 --> 00:17:13.640 he goes. 384 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:14.039 He didn't. 385 00:17:14.079 --> 00:17:15.720 He goes, there's a fireing mouse and said the smokelers 386 00:17:15.759 --> 00:17:17.720 that's coming near you. And he goes went outside and 387 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:20.200 lived and saw his neighbor's house was on fire, but 388 00:17:20.240 --> 00:17:22.799 it didn't spread into the forest, but his poor neighbor 389 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:23.720 lost their place. 390 00:17:24.440 --> 00:17:28.000 Oh no, it's terrible. Yeah, my friends in the Spollcane 391 00:17:28.079 --> 00:17:31.039 have the it's really bad and Spokecane right now. A 392 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:33.440 couple of my friends out there have the fire like 393 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:36.559 a half mile from their house at the moment. Yeah, 394 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:37.440 scary stuff. 395 00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:40.359 Yeah, but I've seen like the up are you guys? 396 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:42.680 Like that whole area there's like olive ore and there's 397 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:44.039 been tons of fires. 398 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:47.279 Yeah, our friends on the warm Springs Reservation are having 399 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:49.599 a really tough time right now. They're starting to take 400 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:52.119 collections of food and water and stuff to go donate 401 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:55.039