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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Thank you for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, hello and welcome. I'm excited to get to know

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<v Speaker 2>you a little bit better. I've been, you know, searching

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<v Speaker 2>the internet who should I speak to?

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<v Speaker 1>And you, definitely your.

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<v Speaker 2>Name has been been popping up quite a lot, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just you were captivating.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you're a beautiful lady who you just.

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<v Speaker 2>Exude confidence and you know, your personality shows through your

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<v Speaker 2>social media. So it's like I had to come and

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<v Speaker 2>sit down with you find out what all this is

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<v Speaker 2>all about your rich husbands feels.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, how you know personal you are with like.

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<v Speaker 2>Your female fans giving them advice and and all about

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<v Speaker 2>you to know you get a little bit better.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, absolutely, I just want to say, like, never in

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<v Speaker 3>my life did I think that I would be on

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<v Speaker 3>the same couch as Alexis Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>I've actually watched my porn before. I mean, who has it?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you said you lived in Miami. You know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quite popular in Miami.

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<v Speaker 1>Might I would say?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 2>My big booty definitely ran the streets of South Beach

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<v Speaker 2>many times for Bang Roads.

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<v Speaker 1>The Beauty Standard. I love it. I love it. So

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<v Speaker 1>were you let's talk about that?

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<v Speaker 2>So when you got the DM and me asking you

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<v Speaker 2>to are you like, oh my god, is this real? No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like kind of the thing or like text is

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<v Speaker 2>like I know, I mean I am here with that

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<v Speaker 2>so verified. So sometimes you just never know because even

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<v Speaker 2>like me sometimes doing working with other people like yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like sometimes you don't know is if it's a

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<v Speaker 2>fake page or whatever. You can kind of see when

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<v Speaker 2>she see like what your posting styles are. But at first,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I didn't know you know who I was.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm grateful that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, I definitely I'm familiar with like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of sex workers because especially like with my type of

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<v Speaker 3>content and stuff, a lot of like sugar baby humored,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'm like cool with strippers, cool with worn actresses,

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff. So your name was definitely familiar, but

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<v Speaker 3>from just you know, you are an icon in the industry.

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<v Speaker 3>She had your name rings a bell to literally everyone,

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<v Speaker 3>even if they don't want to wait admit it. I

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<v Speaker 3>rarely mentioned it to my boyfriend. I was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna do a podcast with books of text. He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>no way, get a selfie trying sick.

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<v Speaker 2>The belfie or a selfie those are really poplite.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it. I love it, Okay, So let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that.

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<v Speaker 2>You said your content is you know, super sex worker

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<v Speaker 2>friendly in a sense, you know, he sayss like it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, sugar baby talk. How did you get into

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<v Speaker 2>that type of content? Is it something that.

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<v Speaker 1>You were real live sugar baby?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you just like the whole lifestyle and like what

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<v Speaker 2>is like how did that kind of fall into play

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<v Speaker 2>where that's your content and how you became so viral.

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<v Speaker 3>So actually what started what has started happening was when

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<v Speaker 3>I was eighteen and I was living by myself in Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>My parents were my family were like they were in Miami,

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<v Speaker 3>but they were very strict on me always. So the

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<v Speaker 3>second that I had just enough money to get an

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<v Speaker 3>apartment and just move out, I did because I.

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<v Speaker 1>Was just wanting to experience.

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<v Speaker 2>So you went to high school like you went to

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<v Speaker 2>your like you grew up like in Miami.

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<v Speaker 3>Miami, but I never did shit like parents or Latino

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<v Speaker 3>like immigrants like don't fuck around.

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<v Speaker 2>But being in Miami, like you know, everyone you think

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<v Speaker 2>about it. You see what's on the movies. If you've

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<v Speaker 2>ever been, it's like, is it so as explicit as

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<v Speaker 2>it is? Or were you completely like shy, like shut

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<v Speaker 2>or not shun, but like kept away from anything like that,

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<v Speaker 2>like the bikini thongs, people walking out and very like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just they don't give a fuck attitude being sheltered.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you were you around me of that or did

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<v Speaker 2>you just kind of always have that burning inside you.

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<v Speaker 3>I had seen it, because you know, my parents locked

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<v Speaker 3>me in a basement, like I had seen it. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I was familiar with the culture, but for the longest time,

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<v Speaker 3>I was not able to partake or even explore, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I never even went to parties in high school. I

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<v Speaker 3>was so focused on getting out of the house so

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<v Speaker 3>I could just kind of live life that I graduated

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<v Speaker 3>in high school early, like at sixteen, I took so

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<v Speaker 3>many classes, got out of there, started working from there

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<v Speaker 3>to shave up to have an apartment so when I

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<v Speaker 3>was eighteen, I could move out. Okay, so now I'm eighteen.

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<v Speaker 3>I had just moved out, and I had gotten a

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<v Speaker 3>DM from someone who had just continuously been mentioned like

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<v Speaker 3>trying to like get me.

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<v Speaker 1>To like meet up or whatever. And it was a

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<v Speaker 1>very obscure account.

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<v Speaker 3>But from what I could see, it looked like they

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<v Speaker 3>lived very fun life because there was yachts.

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<v Speaker 2>There was clubs, but you couldn't really like see like

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<v Speaker 2>who the person is, Like it was very luxury lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 2>like it could be something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely very obscure, and I was just feeling like I

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<v Speaker 3>had like a couple of drinks.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the only person in my office that day

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<v Speaker 1>because I had to go in for some flyling, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was like, you know, let me just respond to this

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<v Speaker 3>person to like what they want. So they sent me

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<v Speaker 3>a message like hey, like let's let's hang out, let's do.

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<v Speaker 1>This, let's do whatever. Can I take you to dinner?

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<v Speaker 3>Constantly like a constant parage of just trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>me to hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>When do I say yeah? And he's like where are

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<v Speaker 1>you right now?

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, I'm in the office, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just here like on my own free will, just kind

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<v Speaker 3>of filing some stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm like organized for next week. And then he goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll pick you up right now and take you to lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>We can go somewhere nearby. Cool. I'm literally just turn eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I've never had like a relationship and this is an

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<v Speaker 2>adult still. The account that's obscure.

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<v Speaker 1>You have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't know who you're walking into nothing, You're just

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<v Speaker 2>stupid and at the time too, let's you know, set

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<v Speaker 2>the story. I guess the picture is like where you

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<v Speaker 2>you were completely single, You weren't seeing anybody. You were

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<v Speaker 2>just young, dumb and who knows if you are full of.

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<v Speaker 3>Cup I wasn't getting any Let's just say, okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>you were full of it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what was going on? So you were curious? You

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<v Speaker 1>were like.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone's telling you these things, which it sounds nice things.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, fuck it, what do I have to lose?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I didn't know what danger was. I hadn't gone

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<v Speaker 1>into true cry. So you my girl.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, so you go down stairs or you go

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<v Speaker 2>out of your office, and you what do you walk into?

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<v Speaker 3>So some like this like Russian guy like pulls up

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<v Speaker 3>in like a g wagon, nice watch.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you scared at any point? At this at this point?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you just like whatever? Because I guess cute? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. He was like a little chubby and I

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<v Speaker 2>like chubby man. Okay, you little chubby got a nice watch,

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<v Speaker 2>got a nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Car, and like you seemed like an asshole, like off

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom, like oh perfect, So sign me up.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>I went to lunch with this guy and he was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of an asshole, but I kind of liked it

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<v Speaker 3>because it was like fun and mysterious and I had

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<v Speaker 3>no idea who he was. He was dressed seeing himself

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<v Speaker 3>to like be like this like obscure pardon to like

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<v Speaker 3>be redundant and reuse the word, but an obscure like

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<v Speaker 3>air to something.

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<v Speaker 1>That I had no idea whatever, And you're not asking

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<v Speaker 1>any questions. I don't give a fuck. I'm like, you're

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<v Speaker 1>paid for You're paid for lunch.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, sick, I'll just have another one.

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<v Speaker 1>Please, I'm hungry.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like eating smart ones like that's how like

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<v Speaker 3>little money I had, like and I was just like

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<v Speaker 3>literally just like stuff in my face because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the first real meal I've had in the

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<v Speaker 3>longest time.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. I didn't give a fuck if we had a

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<v Speaker 1>conversation or not. I'm eating like I'm little girl.

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<v Speaker 3>So nothing, and then I kind of just start like

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<v Speaker 3>this relationship with him where he's always like trying to

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<v Speaker 3>like bring me place, to take me out.

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<v Speaker 1>To a club.

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<v Speaker 2>Any of it's sexual at this point or is he

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<v Speaker 2>trying to like be very handsy, like you know, is

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<v Speaker 2>it like the whole like mister Gray like scenario where

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<v Speaker 2>it's like kind of those things, or is it like

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<v Speaker 2>because some people, you know, there's companionship and obviously he

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<v Speaker 2>met you. It's just like an Instagram thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like he has no clue what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know your age. I'm pretty sure to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you no.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like so it's like, you know, your beautiful chick,

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<v Speaker 2>So I get it, so that it's like, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>people don't always want those things.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was full on like you're like my girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>kind of but like he say that we are not dating. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, we're not an issue. Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean I found here's a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>in the story.

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<v Speaker 1>So basically what happened was that he was not this air.

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<v Speaker 3>He was just a club promoter at like a like

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<v Speaker 3>associated to a really good hospitality group in Miami. So

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<v Speaker 3>they were always doing really crazy fun things. Okay, he

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<v Speaker 3>didn't make good money, but he wasn't in air Like

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<v Speaker 3>that was like a lie and I think that he

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<v Speaker 3>just lied to me to get my attention in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 3>not that I really even cared, but but.

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<v Speaker 2>Something in your head went like ding that you were like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna use me, I'm gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Use this situation. Of course.

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<v Speaker 2>So at this point now you kind of get the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of somewhat and not in having any idea.

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<v Speaker 1>But like the sugar base the aspect, like you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like at that then he's like I can

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<v Speaker 2>get what I want and I don't have to like

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<v Speaker 2>you have feelings or anything like that and still getting whatever. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I fully was attracted to this guy. I liked him

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<v Speaker 2>so much, but he was very stoic and just like

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<v Speaker 2>the way that he handled himself, and he was very

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<v Speaker 2>no bullshit. So he would say like, oh, you're a

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<v Speaker 2>gorgeous girl, Like you're a pretty girl.

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<v Speaker 1>You're my company.

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<v Speaker 3>So in exchange, like I will give you these experiences

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<v Speaker 3>and pay rent and that's it, like it's a transaction,

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<v Speaker 2>And you liked it as far as like just for

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<v Speaker 1>Immediately just had feelings for him.

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<v Speaker 2>And so you weren't looking outside for anything else because

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then he just went ahead and just go

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<v Speaker 2>Because describe some of your benefits, Like let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>one point you probably stopped working because you didn't need

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<v Speaker 3>I never stopped working because I was always afraid of

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<v Speaker 3>day he says that he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Sick of me, and it was very toxic and that

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<v Speaker 3>I never stopped working, but I did pick up a

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<v Speaker 3>look I already like give you all of these things,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of things for me. Mm hm, nothing too crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>really easy. I'll just give you one hundred dollars every

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So it kind of got like that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>after a while he told me that like it just

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<v Speaker 3>I just wasn't getting what I needed emotionally because I

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<v Speaker 3>do these things, these things to like punish me over

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<v Speaker 3>very small things because it was a very toxic relationship

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<v Speaker 3>where he revoked kissing for like a month and he

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<v Speaker 3>it would fuck me up, like emotionally and mentally, but like.

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<v Speaker 1>I just didn't do anything. How long did this whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing go on. This was like four and a half

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<v Speaker 1>months months. Okay, yeah, other guys say years. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>felt like yours genuinely did.

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<v Speaker 2>So when this when, at this time period, did you

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<v Speaker 2>like figure out that he was not this air he

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<v Speaker 2>was a club promoter. He was like being a facade

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<v Speaker 2>of what it was. Not only like the emotional thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you were you were lacking because he wasn't offering it,

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<v Speaker 2>but he also was putting up this front that was

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So almost he kind of told me within the first

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<v Speaker 1>Him, like I really liked him.

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<v Speaker 2>So y'all were fucking Yeah, where y'all bringing other people

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<v Speaker 2>into the relationship at this time or at any time?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty sure that he was like seeing other wams

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<v Speaker 3>but not with each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And for me, like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought it was exclusive and all that stuff, but he

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<v Speaker 3>was a different story.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is the reason kind of the setting the

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<v Speaker 1>tone of like.

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<v Speaker 2>What made you become this sugar baby like cis scenario

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<v Speaker 2>of like something that kind of like where you see

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<v Speaker 2>how you're getting played, you got feelings for something, but

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<v Speaker 2>you're also liking something because it becomes addicting the lifestyle,

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<v Speaker 2>and even though if you're paying for it or provided

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<v Speaker 2>for it or whatever, it is, when it's just like

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<v Speaker 2>once you get the good champagne, you don't want.

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<v Speaker 1>To go back to the cheap shit. So it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you maintain it? How do you know? Whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>So what happens that it's like it's a he's saying

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<v Speaker 2>it's not working or it's not working for you, Like

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<v Speaker 2>what makes the tone where that you're the next step

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<v Speaker 2>of where this breaks out?

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<v Speaker 3>So I go ahead and I tell him like I

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<v Speaker 3>just can't like continue like this relationship anymore because I

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<v Speaker 3>have to put me first.

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<v Speaker 1>But he, even.

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<v Speaker 3>Though it almost seems like he hates me, like he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't give a shit about me, he says, well, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that the game though, because that's but that's the

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<v Speaker 1>Also too, it's like I don't know how old is he?

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<v Speaker 1>He was ten years my senior. So it's like and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just men, I think in general. Is it's the

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<v Speaker 1>control of like it's like cat and mouse, Yes exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're very young and impressionable, you're being at the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I introduced to something whatever, and he's seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the sparkle in your eye, I mean looking at him

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<v Speaker 2>from where from the beginning to like now you're like

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<v Speaker 2>in love.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was my god and yeah that yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>loved that so much. But he understood that, like I

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<v Speaker 1>was like slipping away from his control a.

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<v Speaker 3>Bit, and he was like, do you still need help

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<v Speaker 3>with your rent because at this point, I was getting

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<v Speaker 3>sexually harassed.

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<v Speaker 1>By my boss and I had to find another job.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was worried because I had very limited work experience.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm eighteen, yes, like I'm in college and I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>junior in college at eighteen and.

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<v Speaker 1>All this stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>People we're just not gonna hire me based off of

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that I'm a woman and the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>I'm eighteen years old, because my mental capabilities will always

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<v Speaker 3>be overlooked.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like something that will happen in corporate America.

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<v Speaker 3>People don't take you seriously until you make them take

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<v Speaker 3>you seriously. So he understood that I was getting sectually

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<v Speaker 3>harassed and I was trying to look for other jobs,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would have to take a step down from pay,

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<v Speaker 3>and like I probably wouldn't be able to make my rent.

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<v Speaker 1>He did have a soft spot for me. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was like, how about this.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna walk away from taking care of you, but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna introduce someone in your life that will take

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not what you think. You don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>do anything.

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<v Speaker 3>It is a girl that's in a very special circumstance

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<v Speaker 3>and if you help her, she'll help you.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was like, Okay, let's see what's the special circumstance.

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<v Speaker 1>So this woman, she is the inspiration of my character.

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<v Speaker 3>My character is basically a parody of her, and all respect,

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<v Speaker 3>like all perfect respect, because it's just she was very comical.

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<v Speaker 1>In her own way. She didn't like me, so I

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<v Speaker 1>just made her persona like a satire she is.

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<v Speaker 3>She used to tell people she was Rushy, but she's

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<v Speaker 3>actually Ukrainian because she just figured Americans were stupid, like

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<v Speaker 3>too stupid before the war to like understand the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>And she was a sugar baby. She was one hundred

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<v Speaker 3>percent of sugar baby. And she was in a relationship

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<v Speaker 3>with a very wealthy man in Florida, but he wanted

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<v Speaker 3>her to live with him, and she didn't have friends

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<v Speaker 3>or family in Miami. But she told him that she

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't stay with him because she was staying with a

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<v Speaker 3>cousin and her family.

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<v Speaker 1>Would be much more comfortable if she stayed with the cousin.

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<v Speaker 3>So I had to play the role of this cousin, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>and she would stay with me my tiny one bedroom apartment,

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<v Speaker 3>literally sharing a bed. And this woman didn't have any cash,

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<v Speaker 3>but she had his credit card, so she couldn't pay

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<v Speaker 3>my rent, but she would give me literally everything I

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<v Speaker 3>needed so I could make rent. She would get groceries, cosmetics,

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<v Speaker 3>literally everything off of his card. As long as she's

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<v Speaker 3>not paying for a physical hotel room so he can

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<v Speaker 3>track her down. Then she would be happy because for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of months, I'd be buying her time so

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<v Speaker 3>she could work up the courage to move in with

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<v Speaker 3>this guy. And that was the relationship. But she spoke

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<v Speaker 3>very limited English, and she was also very cold in

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<v Speaker 3>the way that she kind of like treated me because

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<v Speaker 3>she understood that I was going to be like a

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<v Speaker 3>very temporary person in her life.

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<v Speaker 1>But after a while, and she was thirty two and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Was eighteen, so she also saw me as like this

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<v Speaker 3>like kid, you know that she was like.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it did, you try to have any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with her. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Definitely tried for

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, and then I noticed that she started to

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<v Speaker 3>Me when she just like saw me making a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of mistakes with dating and dating older guys in general,

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<v Speaker 3>because I already had the taste of my mouth of

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<v Speaker 3>dating older men, Like I like the authority, I like

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<v Speaker 3>the power, like the fact that they were usually like

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<v Speaker 3>more financially secure. It was attractive, Like it was like

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<v Speaker 3>the whole like boss secretary dynamic where you're like, you

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<v Speaker 3>like this guy that like takes charge and like makes

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<v Speaker 3>you feel comfortable enough to shut your brain off for

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<v Speaker 3>a second. Women flourish when they feel like they're being

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<v Speaker 2>I think that women can let well depending on the situations,

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<v Speaker 2>because you let down your masculine and you can't let

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<v Speaker 2>be allowed to be in your femi in where you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like you are taken care of.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 3>So she kind of just like saw me like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>paying for my own ubers to dates and coming back.

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<v Speaker 2>And like crying because she was like your mentor, like

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<v Speaker 2>you're in between, You're coming from this sugar baby situation.

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<v Speaker 2>She's in this other whole situation that you're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like navigating what you're kind of seeing. Does she telling

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<v Speaker 2>you about what her situation is? Are you just knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that she's paying for his things with a cart so she?

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<v Speaker 2>Cause are you getting any insight for the sugar baby

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<v Speaker 2>world from her?

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<v Speaker 1>So as that's the whole is like that the knowledge

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<v Speaker 1>is power. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So not only would she give me advice on

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<v Speaker 3>how to deal with men, uh, but also advice like

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<v Speaker 3>on like just like being like a sugar baby. Even

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<v Speaker 3>though I was like, I'm not a sugar baby. She

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<v Speaker 3>was like, but the arrangement that you're looking for, like

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<v Speaker 3>this rich boyfriend that.

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<v Speaker 1>Will take care of you is not that far off.

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<v Speaker 1>So open your mind a little bit because we're saying

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<v Speaker 1>sugar baby, sugar daddy whatever. But like it's not like

433
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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't have to.

434
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<v Speaker 3>Be this old decrepit man who like is like, you're

435
00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:06.240
<v Speaker 3>not like an escort, Like it could be a relationship,

436
00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:09.160
<v Speaker 3>but it's a relationship where the transactional bounds or like

437
00:17:09.440 --> 00:17:11.119
<v Speaker 3>set in place and like these are the.

438
00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Expectations and anything.

439
00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:14.680
<v Speaker 3>It's better than like a normal relationship because at least

440
00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:17.839
<v Speaker 3>there's no bullshit. You're honest, I want this, you want

441
00:17:17.880 --> 00:17:20.599
<v Speaker 3>this meet me in the middle of the transaction is broken,

442
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<v Speaker 3>well then we go go or separate way.

443
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<v Speaker 2>But don't you feel as though the lines are blurred

444
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<v Speaker 2>from the escort to a sugar baby.

445
00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:29.079
<v Speaker 1>It's kind of the same thing, Yeah, I mean definitely

446
00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:29.720
<v Speaker 1>for sure, Like.

447
00:17:29.720 --> 00:17:33.640
<v Speaker 2>It's transactional, it's not whatever, obviously it's in each situation.

448
00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:34.359
<v Speaker 1>It's a choice.

449
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean that's the thing, is like, why you

450
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<v Speaker 2>know sex work is what it is.

451
00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:40.039
<v Speaker 1>It's because we're adults and where you're wanting to choose

452
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<v Speaker 1>to say, call it what you want.

453
00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:44.519
<v Speaker 2>But in a sense, it's still transactional, which and therefore

454
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<v Speaker 2>makes it a sex act of course.

455
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, which is always why I found it really interesting

456
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<v Speaker 3>how it's so stigmatized just because it's like, okay, like

457
00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:55.279
<v Speaker 3>maybe we were a little bit more upfront with the

458
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<v Speaker 3>fact that we don't want to end up with some

459
00:17:56.559 --> 00:17:58.480
<v Speaker 3>guy that's broken living in his mom's basement, and now

460
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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden.

461
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<v Speaker 1>We're the problem. And it's always a broke guys and

462
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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of shit to say, like, oh, she

463
00:18:02.519 --> 00:18:04.039
<v Speaker 1>just wants you for your money. It's like, babe, look

464
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<v Speaker 1>at your bank account, Like I don't want you for

465
00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:07.480
<v Speaker 1>your money, keep your two cents, like for sure you

466
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<v Speaker 1>need it more than I do.

467
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<v Speaker 2>I think it's perspective, and I think in a lot

468
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<v Speaker 2>of people in certain things is because you know, when

469
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<v Speaker 2>we're taught at the young age, it's this fairy tale

470
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<v Speaker 2>situation that someone's going to come and save you on

471
00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:21.440
<v Speaker 2>this white horse or whatever, and that's not reality, where

472
00:18:21.440 --> 00:18:23.680
<v Speaker 2>it's like, I think, the perception of what people think do,

473
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<v Speaker 2>and then you will go into this whole other era

474
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<v Speaker 2>of like women or just want equal rights and those

475
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<v Speaker 2>things like that.

476
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<v Speaker 1>So then it's like what equal rights mean? Is it

477
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<v Speaker 1>just pay?

478
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<v Speaker 2>Is it because you know finances? And then it became

479
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<v Speaker 2>like whose dick is bigger? Situation of like you know,

480
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<v Speaker 2>who's going to be more alpha being female or masculine,

481
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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And then now it's like

482
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<v Speaker 2>the regression of like why shouldn't a woman be taken

483
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<v Speaker 2>care of and the levels of what that means for you.

484
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<v Speaker 2>So for you, if it means the status of having

485
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<v Speaker 2>somebody having his shit together, making you feel secure that

486
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<v Speaker 2>you can navigate your life and just have a backboard

487
00:18:58.240 --> 00:18:59.920
<v Speaker 2>or a sounding board to what you need, then why not?

488
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<v Speaker 2>And that's why for me, I've always been an equal opportunity.

489
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<v Speaker 2>Like for me, it's like who like to each his own.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you do that doesn't it doesn't hurt me, then

491
00:19:08.559 --> 00:19:10.119
<v Speaker 2>do whatever you want to do. Is far until you

492
00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:12.079
<v Speaker 2>start affecting other people's lives, is what I feel like.

493
00:19:12.119 --> 00:19:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Then it's like something questionable. Then decide what you want

494
00:19:14.680 --> 00:19:17.400
<v Speaker 2>to do. But I feel like good for you, you know,

495
00:19:17.480 --> 00:19:19.519
<v Speaker 2>And that's why I think that one reason seeing your

496
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<v Speaker 2>page and like not knowing anything about your backstory or

497
00:19:22.160 --> 00:19:24.000
<v Speaker 2>anything like that, but is that you have such a

498
00:19:24.119 --> 00:19:27.200
<v Speaker 2>confidence about you, which a lot of women and again

499
00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:29.599
<v Speaker 2>you find your happy medium in between and maybe a

500
00:19:29.680 --> 00:19:32.680
<v Speaker 2>sugar baby situation. But in relationships and how you navigate

501
00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:35.559
<v Speaker 2>through relationships is you should be able to say you

502
00:19:35.559 --> 00:19:37.759
<v Speaker 2>want to be taken care of. It shouldn't be like

503
00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:40.519
<v Speaker 2>if you being in a situation where everything's you know, equal,

504
00:19:40.599 --> 00:19:43.400
<v Speaker 2>whatever that's your roommate situation, was any situation that's any

505
00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:45.000
<v Speaker 2>different And if you're not you know what I mean,

506
00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:48.559
<v Speaker 2>contributing on whatever equal means for you and each relationship

507
00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.559
<v Speaker 2>is different. So navigating from you not really dating a

508
00:19:52.599 --> 00:19:55.240
<v Speaker 2>lot from in your past being like young, because you

509
00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:56.880
<v Speaker 2>start this when you're eighteen, you know, so you have

510
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<v Speaker 2>no like real experience to.

511
00:19:58.359 --> 00:19:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Really judge off.

512
00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Now have this thirty something year old woman who she's hardcore.

513
00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:06.480
<v Speaker 2>She's telling you she's a little bit cold, but she's

514
00:20:06.480 --> 00:20:08.119
<v Speaker 2>obviously loving it a little bit because she's seeing you

515
00:20:08.160 --> 00:20:10.000
<v Speaker 2>and being endearing to you and telling you the game

516
00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:11.359
<v Speaker 2>and kind of stepping those things.

517
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<v Speaker 1>Where did you take that knowledge after she left?

518
00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:15.880
<v Speaker 2>And how long did she stay with you until you

519
00:20:15.920 --> 00:20:18.640
<v Speaker 2>progress to your next situation with me?

520
00:20:18.799 --> 00:20:22.200
<v Speaker 3>For three to four months, and in that.

521
00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:24.160
<v Speaker 1>You still see in contact with her to this day.

522
00:20:24.440 --> 00:20:26.640
<v Speaker 3>We have each other on social media, so it's like

523
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<v Speaker 3>very casual and very light and sparse.

524
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<v Speaker 1>Does she know that your character has based off of her? Yeah,

525
00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I definitely.

526
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<v Speaker 3>I told her when I ran into her in Carbone

527
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<v Speaker 3>in Miami, she was with her sugar duddy that at

528
00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:39.480
<v Speaker 3>this point they're married, okay, and she lives with very great,

529
00:20:39.519 --> 00:20:41.880
<v Speaker 3>wonderful life and she's gotten everything that she's ever wanted.

530
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<v Speaker 1>So I told her in Carbone and I was like,

531
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<v Speaker 1>do you She's like, you're doing the whole like Russian

532
00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:47.519
<v Speaker 1>sugar be you thing. It's doing so well.

533
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<v Speaker 3>Congratulations, You've always like wanted to love that do personality

534
00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:53.799
<v Speaker 3>things on the internet, and I was like, but are

535
00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:56.119
<v Speaker 3>you like you're aware that that's based off of you, right,

536
00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:58.839
<v Speaker 3>like literally, and then she goes, I had an inkling,

537
00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:00.960
<v Speaker 3>but I like, yeah, her own words, she was like,

538
00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:02.319
<v Speaker 3>I had an inkling, but I wasn't sure.

539
00:21:02.400 --> 00:21:06.279
<v Speaker 1>But I wasn't gonna.

540
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's awesome to like give kind of like a keep.

541
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<v Speaker 3>On going credit where credit is Yeah, I know. She

542
00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:16.559
<v Speaker 3>She's like, it's hilarious. My friends love your content, so

543
00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.440
<v Speaker 3>it's great. Yeah, and it's true. And I was like,

544
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<v Speaker 3>I'm just you know, just uh, regurgitating all of the

545
00:21:22.519 --> 00:21:24.440
<v Speaker 3>advice that you gave me, but like in a funnier

546
00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:26.160
<v Speaker 3>way so it's more palatable.

547
00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Digestible for the modern woman.

548
00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:31.599
<v Speaker 3>We know that what she's seeking is this type of

549
00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:35.799
<v Speaker 3>relationship or beat like this type of lifestyle, right. So

550
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<v Speaker 3>I would say that when she eventually did leave, it

551
00:21:39.640 --> 00:21:42.200
<v Speaker 3>was because my mother came to visit me, and I.

552
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<v Speaker 1>Just couldn't explain why I was like literally sharing a

553
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<v Speaker 1>bed with like this like random woman who did not

554
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<v Speaker 1>know you're sharing a bed with her too. Yeah, Like

555
00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't have an extra or anything. I had a

556
00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:52.160
<v Speaker 1>king bed, so we would just like did just snuggle

557
00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:53.960
<v Speaker 1>who was a little spoon who was a big song.

558
00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:56.400
<v Speaker 3>No, we actually did not stuggle. She would keep to

559
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<v Speaker 3>her side. I would keep to my side. But it

560
00:21:58.079 --> 00:21:59.960
<v Speaker 3>was so interesting visiting that you don't know this person

561
00:22:00.079 --> 00:22:02.559
<v Speaker 3>in and you're just like sharing absolutely everything, and.

562
00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I was like a hostel bit different. But but it's yours, yeah, exactly,

563
00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:11.000
<v Speaker 1>it's just my apartment. I can't afford, so it is yours. Yes.

564
00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:13.519
<v Speaker 1>And when she did leave, I started like dating like.

565
00:22:13.480 --> 00:22:16.559
<v Speaker 3>This much older arab Gui and he was like taking

566
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<v Speaker 3>care of me and doing all this stuff.

567
00:22:18.039 --> 00:22:21.039
<v Speaker 2>But then I so your mom came, and then you

568
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<v Speaker 2>couldn't explain that she had she had to.

569
00:22:23.119 --> 00:22:26.000
<v Speaker 3>Like my mother always like if you need help, like

570
00:22:26.000 --> 00:22:28.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to take away your freedom, like you

571
00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.480
<v Speaker 3>can just like always come home and ask for help.

572
00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:32.720
<v Speaker 3>But like I don't want you like like having to

573
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<v Speaker 3>you know, sacrifice things like privacy or like even safety

574
00:22:35.440 --> 00:22:36.680
<v Speaker 3>because you don't even know these people.

575
00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:38.920
<v Speaker 2>So what did you tell her that she was because

576
00:22:38.920 --> 00:22:40.240
<v Speaker 2>you couldn't say, like, hey, this is.

577
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<v Speaker 1>My mentor for being a sugara.

578
00:22:43.160 --> 00:22:46.160
<v Speaker 3>No, maybe I just said that she was a family

579
00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:50.240
<v Speaker 3>member of the X and okay, yeah, and she wasn't.

580
00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:52.160
<v Speaker 1>She was his friend. But my mother was like, hey,

581
00:22:52.240 --> 00:22:54.240
<v Speaker 1>like just like you can't do this like I would.

582
00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:56.119
<v Speaker 3>I would appreciate it you if you like got her

583
00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:57.640
<v Speaker 3>out and I spoke to her and I was like,

584
00:22:57.680 --> 00:22:59.519
<v Speaker 3>are you okay with advance? She was like, honestly, like,

585
00:22:59.599 --> 00:23:01.400
<v Speaker 3>this is just the time that I needed to realize

586
00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:03.000
<v Speaker 3>that it's time to move in with this guy.

587
00:23:03.079 --> 00:23:04.799
<v Speaker 1>So was that the guy that she's actually married to?

588
00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:05.160
<v Speaker 3>Now?

589
00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:08.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, so it did work out right, but she.

590
00:23:08.039 --> 00:23:09.720
<v Speaker 3>Was just like really anxious about over the fact, like

591
00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:10.920
<v Speaker 3>sharing a space with this man.

592
00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's inescapable naturally. Yeah. So at that point she

593
00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:16.079
<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, fine, like I'm just going to move

594
00:23:16.119 --> 00:23:19.839
<v Speaker 1>in with him. And she does that, and my life

595
00:23:19.880 --> 00:23:22.279
<v Speaker 1>progresses and like this is right before the quarantine.

596
00:23:22.440 --> 00:23:24.200
<v Speaker 3>I was dating this like Arab guy who was a

597
00:23:24.200 --> 00:23:26.640
<v Speaker 3>club owner in Miami, seventeen years my senior.

598
00:23:28.359 --> 00:23:33.279
<v Speaker 1>But it just I am like old wrinkley balls. But

599
00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:35.680
<v Speaker 1>he was he looked he looked very young. He was

600
00:23:36.119 --> 00:23:38.599
<v Speaker 1>he looked it was Algerian, you know the age.

601
00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:43.440
<v Speaker 3>Well, but it just like I am young, like I

602
00:23:43.759 --> 00:23:44.279
<v Speaker 3>wanted to.

603
00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Have like a more passionate relationship and he was just.

604
00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:49.359
<v Speaker 3>Like more like looking for like stability and like a wife,

605
00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:51.359
<v Speaker 3>but like it just like wasn't the passion was there

606
00:23:51.359 --> 00:23:52.480
<v Speaker 3>and I was like seeking it and.

607
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:53.839
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't meeting me in the middle. So I had

608
00:23:53.880 --> 00:23:56.039
<v Speaker 1>to tell him, like I like you, but you don't

609
00:23:56.119 --> 00:23:58.160
<v Speaker 1>fulfill me. Like as far was he paying all of

610
00:23:58.200 --> 00:23:59.160
<v Speaker 1>your things at this time?

611
00:23:59.279 --> 00:24:01.839
<v Speaker 3>At this time, like I was just like living with him, Okay,

612
00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:04.640
<v Speaker 3>so he was paying for everything. Yeah, he'sara, but you

613
00:24:04.640 --> 00:24:07.640
<v Speaker 3>know they apologize yeahs and stuff, so it's.

614
00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:10.599
<v Speaker 1>Not bad, but like, what does your closet look like?

615
00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>It's very beautiful. You should have security in your closet.

616
00:24:15.720 --> 00:24:17.519
<v Speaker 1>Let's how Champagne nine in your classes?

617
00:24:18.039 --> 00:24:22.400
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, so at this time, at this point, it's like

618
00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:25.720
<v Speaker 3>still like the quarantine. Like people everyone switched to online dating,

619
00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:29.359
<v Speaker 3>which I'm kind of like conflicted about, but I got

620
00:24:29.400 --> 00:24:32.359
<v Speaker 3>in in my first match was this guy who was

621
00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:33.519
<v Speaker 3>eleven years my senior.

622
00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:36.599
<v Speaker 1>He lived a fun young lifestyle, like he liked to

623
00:24:36.640 --> 00:24:38.559
<v Speaker 1>travel and ski and like do all this fun?

624
00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:40.960
<v Speaker 2>But do you see all this because of pictures or

625
00:24:41.039 --> 00:24:43.519
<v Speaker 2>because like they're telling you that they like these things?

626
00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Like how do you know? And like how do you

627
00:24:45.000 --> 00:24:46.759
<v Speaker 1>like scouts out accommodation?

628
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:49.240
<v Speaker 3>So like you check you take a look at their profiles,

629
00:24:49.240 --> 00:24:52.039
<v Speaker 3>like you look at their watches, like their car, maybe

630
00:24:52.079 --> 00:24:54.519
<v Speaker 3>like their surroundings, the type of finishes their house has

631
00:24:55.279 --> 00:24:57.359
<v Speaker 3>in those pictures, where are they vacationing? Like I could

632
00:24:57.400 --> 00:25:00.640
<v Speaker 3>recognize certain places, Like I'm like, oh, he's insane arts like.

633
00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:02.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay, and I'll be like, oh my god, when did

634
00:25:02.759 --> 00:25:03.640
<v Speaker 1>you go to the same parts If.

635
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:06.319
<v Speaker 3>He says he went during high season the thing, okay,

636
00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:09.720
<v Speaker 3>so oh like Aspen, Like Aspen's not like a cheap place.

637
00:25:09.559 --> 00:25:10.799
<v Speaker 1>To just get you're doing your homework.

638
00:25:11.200 --> 00:25:12.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean it's like for me, it was like very

639
00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:15.559
<v Speaker 3>familiar with traveling at this point. So I was just like, well,

640
00:25:15.640 --> 00:25:18.440
<v Speaker 3>if he likes to kind of like you know, rich

641
00:25:18.480 --> 00:25:20.640
<v Speaker 3>people go to the same places around the same time.

642
00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Just like a flock of birds, yea. And if they're

643
00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:26.039
<v Speaker 1>doing that, well, then they can afford the rates to

644
00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:28.319
<v Speaker 1>be where they're scamming to be or were they're scamming.

645
00:25:28.319 --> 00:25:29.759
<v Speaker 3>That's a good point, but I mean at that point

646
00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:31.359
<v Speaker 3>you just have to like discern that in person.

647
00:25:31.480 --> 00:25:33.960
<v Speaker 1>You can't just wanting to get you so far. And

648
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:35.799
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't like he was like obviously flexing.

649
00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:37.839
<v Speaker 3>It was just like hey, like these are the times

650
00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:39.880
<v Speaker 3>that I took pictures of myself because he's just a boy.

651
00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I had like.

652
00:25:44.400 --> 00:25:46.960
<v Speaker 3>We really hit it off and I was really attracted

653
00:25:46.960 --> 00:25:49.640
<v Speaker 3>to him physically and all of this stuff, and we

654
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:52.440
<v Speaker 3>just started dating. And the first week that we were dating,

655
00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:54.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean immediately told him off the bat, like I'm

656
00:25:54.359 --> 00:25:56.119
<v Speaker 3>kind of crazy. Like when I really like someone, I'll

657
00:25:56.160 --> 00:25:58.440
<v Speaker 3>just tell them like I'm down to like make this exclusive.

658
00:25:58.480 --> 00:26:00.319
<v Speaker 1>Like if you don't want this to be exclusive.

659
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:01.599
<v Speaker 3>Like you will kind of want to throw up and

660
00:26:01.599 --> 00:26:03.759
<v Speaker 3>like regret your life because like you know, like what

661
00:26:03.839 --> 00:26:04.359
<v Speaker 3>I could get.

662
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:06.640
<v Speaker 1>But I'm saying, like I'm okay with you, but don't

663
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:07.400
<v Speaker 1>men like that.

664
00:26:07.480 --> 00:26:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I feel like that's more of a

665
00:26:09.079 --> 00:26:10.720
<v Speaker 2>turn on than a fucking turn off.

666
00:26:11.079 --> 00:26:13.440
<v Speaker 3>It depends if they're coocks. I mean I never was

667
00:26:13.480 --> 00:26:14.920
<v Speaker 3>really into the cooks though.

668
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:16.880
<v Speaker 1>I was into men. That's like, no, your mind, okay,

669
00:26:16.960 --> 00:26:21.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sharing. So he became So do you go.

670
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:24.960
<v Speaker 2>In being to the sense of like that you like

671
00:26:25.759 --> 00:26:27.680
<v Speaker 2>at this point obviously with your content, you know what

672
00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the sugar baby like before. So it's like,

673
00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:32.279
<v Speaker 2>but when at those times when you're like vetting those

674
00:26:32.319 --> 00:26:35.000
<v Speaker 2>things you go and being like that you want to

675
00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:37.160
<v Speaker 2>them to pay your lifestyle that you want to do,

676
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:39.319
<v Speaker 2>or they're just already just giving you that because of

677
00:26:39.319 --> 00:26:41.599
<v Speaker 2>the type of men that you're going after at this point.

678
00:26:42.559 --> 00:26:43.559
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting.

679
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:47.279
<v Speaker 3>It's more like when you become this like rich guy's

680
00:26:47.319 --> 00:26:49.960
<v Speaker 3>girl and like you merge lifestyles with him. You are

681
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:51.960
<v Speaker 3>merging lifestyle, so you're going to be doing the same

682
00:26:52.000 --> 00:26:53.440
<v Speaker 3>things that he's doing, and it's like, what do you mean,

683
00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:54.039
<v Speaker 3>like I'm gonna pay?

684
00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:55.519
<v Speaker 1>Like no, I'm not, Like you're.

685
00:26:55.400 --> 00:26:56.759
<v Speaker 3>The one that wants to go to ask and like

686
00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 3>I could just buck off and go to work, like you.

687
00:26:58.400 --> 00:27:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean. So it I make it say

688
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:01.640
<v Speaker 1>that's my problem.

689
00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:04.119
<v Speaker 2>I have a life and I can't just be attached

690
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:06.319
<v Speaker 2>to people because I'm like, well I have to work

691
00:27:06.480 --> 00:27:08.440
<v Speaker 2>or I have this, and I'm like I can't just

692
00:27:08.519 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 2>go on your plane.

693
00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Sorry for me.

694
00:27:10.759 --> 00:27:13.200
<v Speaker 2>I was just like I'm but at that age too,

695
00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:15.880
<v Speaker 2>it's like you're young and you're not even of age

696
00:27:15.920 --> 00:27:18.000
<v Speaker 2>to drink, so at this point you're getting to do

697
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:21.119
<v Speaker 2>all the things that a twenty one year old, let

698
00:27:21.160 --> 00:27:22.920
<v Speaker 2>alone a thirty year old at that point too, are

699
00:27:22.920 --> 00:27:24.920
<v Speaker 2>like you're being exposed to a lot of like height

700
00:27:25.039 --> 00:27:28.960
<v Speaker 2>end things. Yes, so it becomes very desensitized to you

701
00:27:29.319 --> 00:27:32.279
<v Speaker 2>because it's not a big thing anymore.

702
00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:35.839
<v Speaker 1>It's every day. I think it's like changing your underwear. Yes.

703
00:27:36.240 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 3>I think it was Eddie Murphy that said this, And

704
00:27:38.200 --> 00:27:41.599
<v Speaker 3>I feel like this is such a brilliant line that

705
00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:43.440
<v Speaker 3>has like the most brilliant thing I've ever heard in

706
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:49.319
<v Speaker 3>the history of comedy. He goes men can't go back sexually.

707
00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 3>I feel like their booty hole once and they liked it.

708
00:27:51.680 --> 00:27:54.000
<v Speaker 3>They're gonna want every single girl after that to do

709
00:27:54.039 --> 00:27:57.119
<v Speaker 3>the same. Women can't go back to lifestyle if she

710
00:27:57.200 --> 00:27:59.279
<v Speaker 3>dated a guy with a car, and she's gonna want

711
00:27:59.319 --> 00:28:01.440
<v Speaker 3>a guy with a better car, or at least a car,

712
00:28:01.519 --> 00:28:03.240
<v Speaker 3>but she's never gonna go back to some guy that

713
00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.240
<v Speaker 3>takes a books fas. So it was kind of like

714
00:28:06.279 --> 00:28:09.160
<v Speaker 3>that where I like, how many boody holes have you looked?

715
00:28:09.640 --> 00:28:09.960
<v Speaker 3>Just one?

716
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.599
<v Speaker 1>It's just the one she wasn't my favorite, Like, oh,

717
00:28:15.640 --> 00:28:21.160
<v Speaker 1>you're bringing back just one, and like I.

718
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:22.759
<v Speaker 3>Didn't have a good time and I made that know

719
00:28:22.839 --> 00:28:24.519
<v Speaker 3>and I was like, I don't know why, but it

720
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:25.480
<v Speaker 3>doesn't smell nice.

721
00:28:26.759 --> 00:28:30.519
<v Speaker 2>That was after the club, I'm sure Miami eleven days

722
00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:31.799
<v Speaker 2>you're tagging it.

723
00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Was a superable, too sweaty for me. You retraumatizing me

724
00:28:37.920 --> 00:28:38.920
<v Speaker 1>very damn it. There you.

725
00:28:42.039 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Know it makes it not go away, It makes it

726
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:47.480
<v Speaker 2>just easier and manageable.

727
00:28:51.759 --> 00:28:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm good.

728
00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't chase it, just swallow it's bitch. Yeah right,

729
00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:00.799
<v Speaker 2>you call me miss Texas for no reason. It's no

730
00:29:00.880 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 2>bigger go home and I haven't gone over, yeah Texes,

731
00:29:03.559 --> 00:29:06.039
<v Speaker 2>that's right. So you hit it off really well with him,

732
00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.160
<v Speaker 2>you all started being in a relationship. How long did

733
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:09.759
<v Speaker 2>it fizzle out to the point where it's like and

734
00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:13.599
<v Speaker 2>at this point once you get what you're quote unquote

735
00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:15.319
<v Speaker 2>looking for, because you don't know what you're looking for,

736
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:17.680
<v Speaker 2>but you're in this situation, your merged lives, you're doing

737
00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:20.559
<v Speaker 2>this late and nice lifestyle, Like is it the not

738
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:22.799
<v Speaker 2>being fulfilled part is like? Is it romantically?

739
00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Is it? Because do you want a family? At one point?

740
00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:27.519
<v Speaker 1>Do you just want your lifestyle provided for?

741
00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:30.559
<v Speaker 2>And what ends does it become where it's like just

742
00:29:30.680 --> 00:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>meeting like an ends to a mean and when does

743
00:29:33.200 --> 00:29:34.799
<v Speaker 2>it become where it's like, Okay, now I have to

744
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:38.200
<v Speaker 2>like figure out what I'm doing and obviously what your content.

745
00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Everything you provide isn't completely your life one thousand percent.

746
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.359
<v Speaker 2>The same way Alexis Texas isn't who I am one

747
00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent of the time.

748
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:47.480
<v Speaker 3>It is.

749
00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, it is a persona, but it is a

750
00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.400
<v Speaker 2>big part of who I am, But it's by other

751
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:55.240
<v Speaker 2>character that I get to play and have fucking sex

752
00:29:55.279 --> 00:29:56.200
<v Speaker 2>with everybody that I want to.

753
00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:58.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's a really good way to put

754
00:29:58.799 --> 00:30:04.279
<v Speaker 3>it on. So to So, this guy, like his family

755
00:30:04.319 --> 00:30:05.799
<v Speaker 3>had a lot of money too, and like they had

756
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:08.079
<v Speaker 3>like a really nice, like old lay looking house in Miami,

757
00:30:08.880 --> 00:30:12.039
<v Speaker 3>and I always felt kind of inadequate because I know

758
00:30:12.480 --> 00:30:15.359
<v Speaker 3>that I am capable of making my own money and

759
00:30:15.400 --> 00:30:16.160
<v Speaker 3>all this stuff.

760
00:30:16.799 --> 00:30:20.039
<v Speaker 1>But like instead of fighting against the patriarchy, I.

761
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:21.880
<v Speaker 3>Kind of like make it work for myself and then

762
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:24.519
<v Speaker 3>I blossom in my own way, because there's a million

763
00:30:24.400 --> 00:30:26.200
<v Speaker 3>and one ways for people to make money without having

764
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:27.680
<v Speaker 3>to go to a nine to five, for sure.

765
00:30:27.759 --> 00:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you really.

766
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Love what you're doing, it doesn't feel like you're doing

767
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:31.480
<v Speaker 3>a nine to five, but you're still putting in the hours.

768
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.240
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not gonna go sit in a cubicle waste

769
00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:35.400
<v Speaker 3>his beautiful face on just like customer service calls.

770
00:30:35.440 --> 00:30:35.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not going to.

771
00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Happen as you shouldn't, and I think that that's awesome.

772
00:30:38.400 --> 00:30:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Another that goes back to like homage to yourself. I

773
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:43.960
<v Speaker 2>was like seeing someone like yourself so young, but and

774
00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know your age until you came in here,

775
00:30:45.759 --> 00:30:47.839
<v Speaker 2>but you just you have a young appearance and like

776
00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>you could tell from your content that you are young.

777
00:30:50.359 --> 00:30:51.920
<v Speaker 1>But it takes to the point with even with that

778
00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:52.640
<v Speaker 1>being said.

779
00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Is that you you're very confident and you know what

780
00:30:57.880 --> 00:31:00.519
<v Speaker 2>most thirty something you're able to have got to know

781
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.559
<v Speaker 2>nowadays then like you know, so it's like you're starting

782
00:31:03.599 --> 00:31:04.000
<v Speaker 2>the game.

783
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:05.720
<v Speaker 1>A little bit like before everybody out, you know what

784
00:31:05.720 --> 00:31:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

785
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:10.279
<v Speaker 2>So, which is what I feel is as a woman,

786
00:31:10.319 --> 00:31:13.000
<v Speaker 2>and I love you. Know, I can't necessarily say that

787
00:31:13.000 --> 00:31:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm a feminist because I have certain situations where I

788
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:18.799
<v Speaker 2>feel like I don't think feminist is completely the right

789
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:20.559
<v Speaker 2>word or what the gifts to us, Like I don't

790
00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:22.119
<v Speaker 2>like I'm not a man hater or any of those things,

791
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:24.759
<v Speaker 2>but I'm pro women. So for me is like when

792
00:31:24.759 --> 00:31:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I see young women like yourself having such a strong

793
00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:29.839
<v Speaker 2>head on your shoulders and obviously you've been through what

794
00:31:29.880 --> 00:31:31.839
<v Speaker 2>you've been through at eighteen, and that's really you know,

795
00:31:31.880 --> 00:31:34.079
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to figure that out by yourself, and you

796
00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:37.440
<v Speaker 2>aren't here today without having go through struggles. But what

797
00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I love is hearing your story of like how you've

798
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:43.559
<v Speaker 2>evolved into like who and why you are so confident

799
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 2>and can make great decisions at your life at this

800
00:31:46.400 --> 00:31:48.880
<v Speaker 2>point then maybe at eighteen and nineteen you didn't know.

801
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.279
<v Speaker 2>So it's like giving the knowledge to the viewers of

802
00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.200
<v Speaker 2>like what that looks like if this is what you

803
00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:55.240
<v Speaker 2>want to do, Like what like how this you can

804
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>go about and feel confident about it and not have

805
00:31:57.839 --> 00:32:00.359
<v Speaker 2>a stigma behind it, not have shame behind it, because

806
00:32:00.400 --> 00:32:03.279
<v Speaker 2>it is your choice, it is your rights or whatever.

807
00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>And you're very knowledgeable that you could do a nine

808
00:32:05.759 --> 00:32:06.119
<v Speaker 1>to five.

809
00:32:06.160 --> 00:32:08.079
<v Speaker 2>But if you don't want to, then why And the

810
00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:09.799
<v Speaker 2>thing is nowadays is that the world is set up

811
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:12.119
<v Speaker 2>to that we don't have to be succumbed and subject

812
00:32:12.160 --> 00:32:15.160
<v Speaker 2>to being chained to somebody else's business, that we can

813
00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:16.359
<v Speaker 2>create our own lanes.

814
00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 1>And that's why I think it's fascinating with your story is.

815
00:32:19.319 --> 00:32:23.839
<v Speaker 2>Because you built that off of a sugar baby context,

816
00:32:24.319 --> 00:32:26.960
<v Speaker 2>and that's not even even a scratch of who you are.

817
00:32:27.000 --> 00:32:31.039
<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, I mean I personally think that shame like

818
00:32:31.119 --> 00:32:34.640
<v Speaker 3>that was just like constructed by men to keep women

819
00:32:35.720 --> 00:32:36.880
<v Speaker 3>much lower and beneath them.

820
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.319
<v Speaker 1>But if you don't fall victim to feeling.

821
00:32:38.960 --> 00:32:40.559
<v Speaker 3>Shameful for the things that you had to do in

822
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:42.960
<v Speaker 3>your life to be where you are now, it doesn't

823
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:43.920
<v Speaker 3>fucking matter, you know, And.

824
00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Who gives a fuck.

825
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't think shame is I can't say it's this

826
00:32:47.160 --> 00:32:48.599
<v Speaker 2>sexualized it as far as men.

827
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>I think women do it to women as well.

828
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Like, you know, even like watching some of yourself on

829
00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.839
<v Speaker 2>your stories, you still post the real time of like

830
00:32:54.920 --> 00:32:57.599
<v Speaker 2>the women shaming you because let me show you what

831
00:32:57.839 --> 00:32:59.799
<v Speaker 2>not to do, Like how do you deal with the

832
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:01.319
<v Speaker 2>negative parts of those things?

833
00:33:01.400 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know how good my life is.

834
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:06.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, I mean I would be fucking slitting

835
00:33:06.240 --> 00:33:08.559
<v Speaker 3>my wrists too, if, like I was so miserable I

836
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.720
<v Speaker 3>had to project that onto a woman who is literally

837
00:33:10.720 --> 00:33:12.319
<v Speaker 3>making people laugh on the side of the street.

838
00:33:13.480 --> 00:33:15.200
<v Speaker 2>Has there ever been in a situation that in a

839
00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:18.440
<v Speaker 2>negative context where it's triggered you because of something they've said,

840
00:33:18.839 --> 00:33:20.599
<v Speaker 2>or have you always been where it's been.

841
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:22.400
<v Speaker 1>Like it just hasn't bothered you new rolls off your

842
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>back because I'm from you know, you know, the digital

843
00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.279
<v Speaker 1>world of the things. That's very later on in my career.

844
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:31.599
<v Speaker 2>But it's also then there's forums, there's all these things

845
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:34.440
<v Speaker 2>that people comment badly about you and me. I never

846
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:36.480
<v Speaker 2>fed into it because I was like, they don't even

847
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 2>know who I am, They just see an image.

848
00:33:38.359 --> 00:33:41.640
<v Speaker 1>So it never bothered me, but it would bother me.

849
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 2>In person and when I would do it certain things,

850
00:33:43.119 --> 00:33:45.880
<v Speaker 2>when people would say things because that's not who I am.

851
00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:48.359
<v Speaker 2>But for me, I had to have reflection of knowing

852
00:33:48.400 --> 00:33:50.279
<v Speaker 2>that no one will ever know who I am unless

853
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:52.359
<v Speaker 2>you're in my like in my bubble or my circle

854
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:54.759
<v Speaker 2>or whatever it is, So why care about those things?

855
00:33:55.079 --> 00:33:58.200
<v Speaker 2>Being so young, is there anything that's ever like you know,

856
00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.279
<v Speaker 2>made you to a point, And like.

857
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.079
<v Speaker 1>I think it's the cross between of the twos.

858
00:34:02.160 --> 00:34:03.799
<v Speaker 2>Like I think in my twenties, I was like, fuck it,

859
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a fuck what anybody cares. But at

860
00:34:05.640 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 2>some level there is a motion behind who you are,

861
00:34:07.759 --> 00:34:09.599
<v Speaker 2>and you are a person and you have feelings. Has

862
00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:13.159
<v Speaker 2>anything ever made you feel triggered by what somebody said

863
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:17.440
<v Speaker 2>because of what you're either advertising or your message behind it.

864
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:20.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean never, uh, never quite, but I definitely do

865
00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:24.079
<v Speaker 3>remember a time where I was pregnant and I had

866
00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 3>a miscarriage. I announced my miscarriage and then I had

867
00:34:28.840 --> 00:34:31.719
<v Speaker 3>a wave of men say that, I mean, look at

868
00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.519
<v Speaker 3>your content, like God did that child a favor, like

869
00:34:34.559 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 3>you would be at an inadequate mother, and like you

870
00:34:37.920 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 3>deserve your child like deserve to die. And that was

871
00:34:41.159 --> 00:34:43.000
<v Speaker 3>like the only thing that gone to me because things

872
00:34:43.079 --> 00:34:46.840
<v Speaker 3>about me don't get to me. But it's my unborn child.

873
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:49.320
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, doesn't need to be in your mouth. Heartless

874
00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:51.880
<v Speaker 3>for sure, completely heartless. I was getting like video sent

875
00:34:51.960 --> 00:34:52.199
<v Speaker 3>to me.

876
00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:57.639
<v Speaker 1>Of men like cheering in bars that like like.

877
00:34:57.280 --> 00:35:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Like something, I lost my child. And it wasn't that

878
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 3>like it got to me where it made me question

879
00:35:03.519 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 3>myself forth or my capability to be a good mother

880
00:35:05.800 --> 00:35:09.760
<v Speaker 3>to another human being because of like I know I can,

881
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:11.679
<v Speaker 3>But it was more.

882
00:35:11.639 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 4>Like I just couldn't believe that people could be so

883
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:16.239
<v Speaker 4>and H mean, yeah, no, for sure, you know, and

884
00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:18.840
<v Speaker 4>being you know, a sex worker, like being in the

885
00:35:18.840 --> 00:35:22.559
<v Speaker 4>business for over twenty years, it's like you see on

886
00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:24.920
<v Speaker 4>certain levels and nothing, I mean there's been things, I mean,

887
00:35:24.960 --> 00:35:26.840
<v Speaker 4>but I don't let it roll off my back whenever.

888
00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:28.679
<v Speaker 2>Like I said, like, there's been small things that I've

889
00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.320
<v Speaker 2>had to work on and seeing things people like in

890
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 2>person say things but it's more reflection.

891
00:35:33.719 --> 00:35:34.719
<v Speaker 1>On them than you.

892
00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:37.599
<v Speaker 2>But they're just things like words tart and so it's

893
00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:39.760
<v Speaker 2>like we are people. It doesn't matter what you say,

894
00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's like, you know, we still have feelings,

895
00:35:42.039 --> 00:35:44.400
<v Speaker 2>and it's unfortunate that people think like that, and they

896
00:35:44.360 --> 00:35:46.440
<v Speaker 2>even cind of like go to like the level of that.

897
00:35:46.480 --> 00:35:47.920
<v Speaker 1>It's like their own insecurities.

898
00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:50.840
<v Speaker 2>So it's for me, it's like I go, We'll go

899
00:35:50.840 --> 00:35:52.119
<v Speaker 2>back to the motto of tweach his own.

900
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:53.960
<v Speaker 1>If it doesn't affect you, then why are you worried

901
00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 1>about it?

902
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:54.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

903
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:55.960
<v Speaker 1>So worried? What do you care? What do you think

904
00:35:56.000 --> 00:35:58.079
<v Speaker 1>I care? Do you hear what's going on in my

905
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.639
<v Speaker 1>uterus and my pussy? And nothing? Like? Why?

906
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:01.159
<v Speaker 4>Why?

907
00:36:01.960 --> 00:36:02.039
<v Speaker 3>So?

908
00:36:02.280 --> 00:36:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Where did you go from there? Yeah?

909
00:36:05.400 --> 00:36:08.320
<v Speaker 3>I just started like walking around his house and I

910
00:36:08.400 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 3>was like, you know who I feel like right now?

911
00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:12.800
<v Speaker 3>I feel like that woman who was my roommate a

912
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:15.960
<v Speaker 3>year ago. At this point I was nineteen. I feel

913
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:17.960
<v Speaker 3>like Russian sugar baby.

914
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:20.880
<v Speaker 1>I just whipped out my camera this TikTok.

915
00:36:20.880 --> 00:36:22.599
<v Speaker 3>It was during the pandemic, so people were like on

916
00:36:22.639 --> 00:36:24.840
<v Speaker 3>TikTok and I'm consuming a lot of that content, but

917
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I wasn't really posting and I just like whip out

918
00:36:27.880 --> 00:36:29.360
<v Speaker 3>my phone and I don't know where I pull this

919
00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:32.239
<v Speaker 3>out of my ass, Like I just start off like going,

920
00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:35.039
<v Speaker 3>my life is so difficult when my sugar daddy is

921
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:38.920
<v Speaker 3>at work, I have to whoop zdulds and start complaining

922
00:36:38.960 --> 00:36:42.000
<v Speaker 3>about like these very like meager tasks when I should

923
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:44.360
<v Speaker 3>just be like at the swab. And then I say, like,

924
00:36:45.679 --> 00:36:48.079
<v Speaker 3>if men ask you what you study in school, you

925
00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:51.079
<v Speaker 3>have to say STEM because STAM to me means sugar

926
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:54.320
<v Speaker 3>baby training, education of money. We love women in STAM

927
00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 3>and just like bullshit jokes like that. I think one

928
00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:00.320
<v Speaker 3>of my favorite ones that I said was me and

929
00:37:00.360 --> 00:37:03.239
<v Speaker 3>ask you what sign you're the most compatible.

930
00:37:02.639 --> 00:37:04.119
<v Speaker 1>With, you have to say dollar sign.

931
00:37:05.559 --> 00:37:07.840
<v Speaker 3>And I just posted it and it was like really silly,

932
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:09.960
<v Speaker 3>like didn't really mean anything, and I was just like, what,

933
00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure I got a lot of you twenty five

934
00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:13.440
<v Speaker 3>million kind of overnight.

935
00:37:14.119 --> 00:37:16.559
<v Speaker 1>And at this point I went from.

936
00:37:16.400 --> 00:37:18.960
<v Speaker 3>Having no followers to I jumped to like three hundred

937
00:37:19.000 --> 00:37:21.039
<v Speaker 3>thousand off of one video.

938
00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.760
<v Speaker 1>And I just kept posting it. Did your sugar daddy

939
00:37:23.760 --> 00:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>at this point know that what was happening? So at

940
00:37:26.320 --> 00:37:27.280
<v Speaker 1>this point, like I.

941
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:29.079
<v Speaker 3>Told him, like, look at all of this attention, and

942
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.320
<v Speaker 3>he was like a finance guy, like managed a lot

943
00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 3>of people's money, and he was like, we.

944
00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Just got to get you monetized. Immediately right off.

945
00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.320
<v Speaker 3>The bag, he was like, stop thinking about like you're

946
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:39.360
<v Speaker 3>on a high that people are appreciating, like these jokes

947
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:41.639
<v Speaker 3>that you came up with, think about how you can

948
00:37:41.719 --> 00:37:44.559
<v Speaker 3>make money from this, and then just keep going because

949
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.360
<v Speaker 3>he the second he saw a business opportunity was like

950
00:37:46.360 --> 00:37:47.679
<v Speaker 3>I don't give a fuck what you post.

951
00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Fucking make the money.

952
00:37:49.119 --> 00:37:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Because he went from I went from being a financial

953
00:37:51.480 --> 00:37:53.960
<v Speaker 3>burden to all of a sudden like we just getting

954
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:55.679
<v Speaker 3>really cool opportunities.

955
00:37:55.800 --> 00:37:57.679
<v Speaker 1>Did he wants some of it? Yeah, of course not

956
00:37:58.119 --> 00:37:58.880
<v Speaker 1>money per se.

957
00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:02.280
<v Speaker 3>He towards a specific point in my relationship, he was

958
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:04.039
<v Speaker 3>like balls deep into my career and he knew how

959
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:05.960
<v Speaker 3>much money I was pulling in, so he would make

960
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:09.000
<v Speaker 3>me like pay for certain things, which I would have

961
00:38:09.000 --> 00:38:10.719
<v Speaker 3>been cool with, but like I'm like, I'm not paying

962
00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:12.320
<v Speaker 3>half the mortgage of the house that you refuse to

963
00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:13.719
<v Speaker 3>put in my name, you know what I mean, Like,

964
00:38:13.719 --> 00:38:15.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing that because at the end of the

965
00:38:15.360 --> 00:38:17.519
<v Speaker 3>day when you want me out, I paid half of

966
00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:19.639
<v Speaker 3>the fucking mortgage and I leave with nothing, like it's

967
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 3>not happening.

968
00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>Like logical fix like that. But I was like, yeah,

969
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:25.239
<v Speaker 1>of course I'll get dinners every so often.

970
00:38:25.320 --> 00:38:28.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like it's as soon as it as soon as

971
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.079
<v Speaker 3>I could, like and I genuinely love someone, like it's part.

972
00:38:30.960 --> 00:38:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Of me to like love language, and it's not like

973
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 2>the transactions like only like I'm your girlfriend, you give

974
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:39.719
<v Speaker 2>me this, but like I do want this.

975
00:38:39.719 --> 00:38:42.599
<v Speaker 3>Man that provides and in exchange, like if you want

976
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:45.800
<v Speaker 3>a woman that stays at home more and like cleans

977
00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:47.840
<v Speaker 3>more and cooks more, like I need you to like

978
00:38:47.880 --> 00:38:49.840
<v Speaker 3>pull in more money if you want those things from me,

979
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 3>because if not, I'm still in survival mode.

980
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:53.719
<v Speaker 1>Did you W'd you say that you were in love

981
00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:55.159
<v Speaker 1>with him? Yes? I was.

982
00:38:55.519 --> 00:38:58.719
<v Speaker 3>I thought honestly that I was going to marry him,

983
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.719
<v Speaker 3>and my career just kept taking off. Like after one month,

984
00:39:01.719 --> 00:39:04.039
<v Speaker 3>if I had a million followers, two months, two million,

985
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:05.920
<v Speaker 3>three months, three million, How is.

986
00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.320
<v Speaker 2>That feeling of knowing that like you basically did it

987
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.159
<v Speaker 2>not knowing of anybody what he would listen to you,

988
00:39:10.280 --> 00:39:13.239
<v Speaker 2>having zero followers, and now you're like getting this money

989
00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.039
<v Speaker 2>that you've never had before, that you're doing all this stuff,

990
00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Like how did that make you feel inside?

991
00:39:17.920 --> 00:39:18.159
<v Speaker 1>Well?

992
00:39:18.199 --> 00:39:20.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean it was really addicting in the beginning because

993
00:39:20.400 --> 00:39:24.119
<v Speaker 3>it was an instant dopamine rush. I'm a little bit

994
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.320
<v Speaker 3>like on the spectrum in all honesty, so I don't

995
00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:31.840
<v Speaker 3>really like get dopamine from traditional ways. Like it's like

996
00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 3>it's very hard for me to even complete like basic

997
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.599
<v Speaker 3>tasks because my ad my add is so hard in

998
00:39:37.800 --> 00:39:40.239
<v Speaker 3>certain things like that. But like it was such easy

999
00:39:40.320 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 3>work for Yeah, I put in time to like organize

1000
00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 3>videos and come up with jokes, but like filming on

1001
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:49.320
<v Speaker 3>TikTok was relatively seamless, posting and then having millions of

1002
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:51.559
<v Speaker 3>people just like today to you.

1003
00:39:52.079 --> 00:39:54.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course there's like an element where do you

1004
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:55.800
<v Speaker 1>want feedback? Where do you want I mean, like, what

1005
00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:57.440
<v Speaker 1>are you doing? What can I do? What next?

1006
00:39:57.599 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 3>Have you never had a lot of friends or anything

1007
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:01.440
<v Speaker 3>growing up, and I got heavily bullied, But because it's

1008
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:02.599
<v Speaker 3>because I had like.

1009
00:40:02.559 --> 00:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>A lot of issues socializing.

1010
00:40:04.559 --> 00:40:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Like I wasn't someone that was like very like okay

1011
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:08.960
<v Speaker 3>with making eye contactic. That's stuff that I had to

1012
00:40:09.000 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 3>work on later. That's why I mentioned like I do

1013
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:16.039
<v Speaker 3>have autistic traits, was diagnosed with autism.

1014
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:16.599
<v Speaker 1>Because there's not enough of it.

1015
00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:18.719
<v Speaker 3>But they're like, you definitely do have autisic traits, but

1016
00:40:18.760 --> 00:40:21.039
<v Speaker 3>it's probably because you have like severe ADYD, so you

1017
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:23.719
<v Speaker 3>do end up on the spectrum somehow. So that was

1018
00:40:23.760 --> 00:40:26.199
<v Speaker 3>really hard to me because my parents that are immigrants,

1019
00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.440
<v Speaker 3>like they just like reject the idea of neurodivergence.

1020
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, They're just like you're just like.

1021
00:40:30.719 --> 00:40:33.280
<v Speaker 3>A start cooking and like maybe you're not like the

1022
00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:35.000
<v Speaker 3>bendst of being social. But that's something that I had

1023
00:40:35.039 --> 00:40:39.000
<v Speaker 3>to learn later on because it's all masking. Yeah, and

1024
00:40:39.239 --> 00:40:40.599
<v Speaker 3>it was like the first time in my life that

1025
00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:43.320
<v Speaker 3>I felt like popular and like cool and like it

1026
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:46.800
<v Speaker 3>almost makes me emotional because I always tried to like

1027
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:48.719
<v Speaker 3>be out there and outgoing and then people would be

1028
00:40:48.800 --> 00:40:50.880
<v Speaker 3>like she's a little weird or like I don't get it,

1029
00:40:50.920 --> 00:40:52.599
<v Speaker 3>like she's trying to be funny but it's not hitting

1030
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:54.840
<v Speaker 3>and it's like, yeah, like I'm sorry. I was trying

1031
00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.119
<v Speaker 3>my best, like I didn't understand my brain. But like

1032
00:40:57.159 --> 00:41:01.199
<v Speaker 3>now I'm more comfortable with it. Yeah, so at the

1033
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:05.360
<v Speaker 3>time it was intoxicating. But then I also had this

1034
00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.559
<v Speaker 3>like I was projecting like this like this image, this

1035
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:12.639
<v Speaker 3>message of self confidence and like knowing that you're expensive,

1036
00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:15.400
<v Speaker 3>but I still had some little being er child, like

1037
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:18.000
<v Speaker 3>the little girl inside that was looking in the mirror

1038
00:41:18.039 --> 00:41:20.119
<v Speaker 3>and not recognizing what was happening around me.

1039
00:41:20.159 --> 00:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>It was like imposter syndrome. You had it, but you

1040
00:41:22.000 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>didn't feel it. Yeah.

1041
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:25.079
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of like I'm sure, like you can kind

1042
00:41:25.079 --> 00:41:27.920
<v Speaker 3>of relate to this work. You're a Lexis Texas to

1043
00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:32.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of people, but inside you're also you and

1044
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:35.119
<v Speaker 3>a person that a lot of people don't know and

1045
00:41:35.159 --> 00:41:37.280
<v Speaker 3>like maybe they claim, like to know your personality based

1046
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:39.199
<v Speaker 3>off of what you portray online, but they don't understand

1047
00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 3>that like a certain aspect.

1048
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Of that is a character.

1049
00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:45.519
<v Speaker 3>It's a character, sure that you portray because that's just business.

1050
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:48.800
<v Speaker 3>Like that's Hollywood, baby, like that's what we have to do. Yeah,

1051
00:41:49.000 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 3>so it was imposter syndrome wore Like I was like,

1052
00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:51.519
<v Speaker 3>do I.

1053
00:41:51.480 --> 00:41:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Really like deserve this?

1054
00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Like people are are like saying, oh my god, my

1055
00:41:54.880 --> 00:41:57.000
<v Speaker 3>sugar baby queen, but like, am I is that me?

1056
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:00.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh my God, like your're so funny and so this whatever,

1057
00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.719
<v Speaker 3>but I'm doing this all in accent that does not

1058
00:42:02.719 --> 00:42:05.639
<v Speaker 3>pertain like to like my actual nationality, like I'm Hispanic,

1059
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:09.840
<v Speaker 3>And it was like wow, like people the second that

1060
00:42:09.880 --> 00:42:12.519
<v Speaker 3>I had that I sort of portraying a character that

1061
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.480
<v Speaker 3>wasn't myself, I was like, so maybe I am the problem.

1062
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:18.360
<v Speaker 3>So that was like another thing that I had to

1063
00:42:18.400 --> 00:42:20.719
<v Speaker 3>battle with from the beginning, where I'm like, am I

1064
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:23.719
<v Speaker 3>worthy of this attention or was this simply because I

1065
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.199
<v Speaker 3>decided to be someone else that I was finally accepted.

1066
00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>For sure?

1067
00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.079
<v Speaker 2>I think that I think you for sharing that, and

1068
00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:34.119
<v Speaker 2>I feel like it is you know, when you become

1069
00:42:34.159 --> 00:42:36.320
<v Speaker 2>a content creator and depending on what kind of content

1070
00:42:36.360 --> 00:42:39.840
<v Speaker 2>your career, obviously mine was like an adult performer, Like

1071
00:42:39.880 --> 00:42:41.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, you don't want to go buy your legal

1072
00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:43.440
<v Speaker 2>name for other reasons and like whatever reasons why you like,

1073
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe your character is at a certain level there is alignment,

1074
00:42:46.920 --> 00:42:49.039
<v Speaker 2>but there is also too is you do deserve it

1075
00:42:49.119 --> 00:42:51.559
<v Speaker 2>and it is beneath all of that character and not

1076
00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:52.039
<v Speaker 2>as you.

1077
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I think that with myself I can speak for is

1078
00:42:56.599 --> 00:42:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it was being called something else and it's in the left.

1079
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:02.400
<v Speaker 2>This is still my real name, So it wasn't far

1080
00:43:02.440 --> 00:43:04.199
<v Speaker 2>from who I was, but I would say Texas isn't

1081
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:08.440
<v Speaker 2>my last name. But it's like it was easier to

1082
00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:11.760
<v Speaker 2>be who I really was and not and I stopped

1083
00:43:11.840 --> 00:43:14.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to be something I wasn't.

1084
00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I am this sexual person.

1085
00:43:16.039 --> 00:43:17.599
<v Speaker 2>So I feel like with you is not that you

1086
00:43:17.639 --> 00:43:19.719
<v Speaker 2>were like made to be a sugar baby, but you

1087
00:43:19.760 --> 00:43:22.000
<v Speaker 2>were made to make some light of a situation and

1088
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.039
<v Speaker 2>make people feel good about it. You're positive you bring

1089
00:43:25.079 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 2>a light up to a situation that doesn't have to

1090
00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:29.039
<v Speaker 2>be a dark thing. It could be a positive that

1091
00:43:29.079 --> 00:43:32.360
<v Speaker 2>people put such negativity around it. Where it's like and

1092
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:34.599
<v Speaker 2>those things is when we get older, is like sometimes

1093
00:43:34.639 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 2>it's like people are like, oh, you're not good enough, Like.

1094
00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:38.679
<v Speaker 1>You are for the right person and the right the

1095
00:43:38.800 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>right audience.

1096
00:43:39.960 --> 00:43:42.000
<v Speaker 2>The right people that kind of like, you know, look

1097
00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.199
<v Speaker 2>at the pop of like went from zero to a

1098
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:46.280
<v Speaker 2>million to thirteen.

1099
00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:46.840
<v Speaker 1>You know a million.

1100
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:49.119
<v Speaker 2>Is like there's more people that relate to you than

1101
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:52.000
<v Speaker 2>you realize. And that's why it's like, what is a

1102
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.519
<v Speaker 2>beautiful thing is is when you are so unique is

1103
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 2>having the courage to go in these lanes and like

1104
00:43:58.039 --> 00:44:02.840
<v Speaker 2>really identifying speaking your true is because more people can

1105
00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:05.360
<v Speaker 2>relate to them themselves and speak their own So it's

1106
00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:08.320
<v Speaker 2>like you're an advocate for just being you and that's

1107
00:44:08.320 --> 00:44:10.400
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful thing. It's like you didn't think that you belong,

1108
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:12.480
<v Speaker 2>but you belong in so many other spaces, you know

1109
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 2>what I mean.

1110
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:17.440
<v Speaker 1>So it's like you, it's it's just you're funny and

1111
00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:18.519
<v Speaker 1>you belong, you know.

1112
00:44:18.679 --> 00:44:20.320
<v Speaker 2>And that's the thing is it sucks to feel like

1113
00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:23.239
<v Speaker 2>you don't belong because it's there's so many things like

1114
00:44:23.519 --> 00:44:25.360
<v Speaker 2>even if this, like I said, like I think sugar

1115
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.440
<v Speaker 2>baby ness of like your content is a scratch of

1116
00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.800
<v Speaker 2>who you are, not when we're very smart and intelligent

1117
00:44:30.800 --> 00:44:33.239
<v Speaker 2>and knowing what you could get in those things, and

1118
00:44:33.239 --> 00:44:35.320
<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of telling things in between that than

1119
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:38.719
<v Speaker 2>just sing like just being a sugar baby.

1120
00:44:38.719 --> 00:44:42.960
<v Speaker 1>That was so beautifully sad. You're so good at speaking.

1121
00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:45.119
<v Speaker 2>I think for me, it's more the authenticity of Like

1122
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:46.679
<v Speaker 2>for me is I like this to be a safe

1123
00:44:46.719 --> 00:44:48.880
<v Speaker 2>space for people to be like, you know, for your

1124
00:44:48.920 --> 00:44:50.800
<v Speaker 2>fans to get to know a different side of you,

1125
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:52.840
<v Speaker 2>and I like ask the questions and make you know

1126
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:55.920
<v Speaker 2>feel where you're vulnerable enough to share that because you

1127
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:58.159
<v Speaker 2>know that you are and such, like your content is such,

1128
00:44:58.519 --> 00:44:59.920
<v Speaker 2>you know if it's a sugar baby thing and you

1129
00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.480
<v Speaker 2>giving advice and it's great advice. But some people may

1130
00:45:02.480 --> 00:45:04.159
<v Speaker 2>think that maybe you're just always silly, but there is

1131
00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.039
<v Speaker 2>a softer side to you. There is an other things

1132
00:45:06.079 --> 00:45:08.599
<v Speaker 2>that like define of how you got here to make

1133
00:45:08.639 --> 00:45:11.079
<v Speaker 2>yourself so funny and relatable to everybody. And I think

1134
00:45:11.079 --> 00:45:13.079
<v Speaker 2>that that's a beautiful thing. So I like to tap

1135
00:45:13.079 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 2>into those things. Thanks, So let's talk about on the

1136
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:19.119
<v Speaker 2>flip side of Like we talked about your journey and

1137
00:45:19.159 --> 00:45:21.280
<v Speaker 2>like how you kind of like navigate those things. How

1138
00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:23.400
<v Speaker 2>do you feel about like nowadays, like there's shows like

1139
00:45:23.480 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 2>Love is Blind and there're on these pod things and like,

1140
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:29.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, you coming from a not necessarily a different

1141
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.000
<v Speaker 2>or bias, but a different perspective of love and having

1142
00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:32.599
<v Speaker 2>people in your life.

1143
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:34.679
<v Speaker 1>What do you think and what is your perspective on

1144
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:36.599
<v Speaker 1>these kind of shows. I would love to talk about

1145
00:45:36.599 --> 00:45:39.800
<v Speaker 1>those one for a second. And have you been keeping up?

1146
00:45:39.960 --> 00:45:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I definitely hate that the reunion is like in a week.

1147
00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't like that, but you know, we're here and

1148
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like I saw something before I came here

1149
00:45:48.440 --> 00:45:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and it was like Netflix, I will pay you twenty

1150
00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:51.000
<v Speaker 2>dollars right now.

1151
00:45:51.079 --> 00:45:51.760
<v Speaker 1>You can send it in the.

1152
00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:53.320
<v Speaker 2>Mail, you can say it in my email, but then

1153
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.679
<v Speaker 2>you saw it now and not on the thirteenth, But.

1154
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:59.599
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, yes, Oh so I actually do have

1155
00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:01.679
<v Speaker 3>a bone to pick with things like Love is bline,

1156
00:46:01.719 --> 00:46:06.239
<v Speaker 3>because yet they're still putting conventionally attractive people like no

1157
00:46:06.280 --> 00:46:08.119
<v Speaker 3>one that owned that show was ugly.

1158
00:46:08.039 --> 00:46:11.280
<v Speaker 1>Like there's been some seasons, yeah, but.

1159
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Like there's like it's like I'm like, it depends on

1160
00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>there's still like able body people.

1161
00:46:16.920 --> 00:46:18.159
<v Speaker 3>Though at the end of the day, I'm like, if

1162
00:46:18.280 --> 00:46:20.199
<v Speaker 3>love is blind, oh put a paraplegic in it.

1163
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:22.440
<v Speaker 1>Let's say, let's see if love is really blind.

1164
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.800
<v Speaker 2>Let's see this is true love, love is blind. But

1165
00:46:25.840 --> 00:46:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I also think that there's also like probably waivers, stigma,

1166
00:46:31.320 --> 00:46:33.880
<v Speaker 2>standards and requirements and in the regular life right that

1167
00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:35.480
<v Speaker 2>you would be like what you want because that they're

1168
00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:39.039
<v Speaker 2>basing them off of a personality or some kind of computing,

1169
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:42.679
<v Speaker 2>some kind of science of something of how they're pairing

1170
00:46:42.719 --> 00:46:45.159
<v Speaker 2>them together. Because I feel like a lot of the people.

1171
00:46:45.159 --> 00:46:46.599
<v Speaker 2>What I think is and I have been a fan

1172
00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 2>since the beginning, is that it shows taking the surface

1173
00:46:53.480 --> 00:46:55.920
<v Speaker 2>level things of what we would think is love and

1174
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:58.639
<v Speaker 2>like those things and like knowing the internal part of

1175
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:03.719
<v Speaker 2>who a person is to a point now you have

1176
00:47:03.840 --> 00:47:06.679
<v Speaker 2>outside you know things, and then you have people who

1177
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:09.880
<v Speaker 2>just like when we fall in love with potential, like

1178
00:47:10.000 --> 00:47:13.239
<v Speaker 2>maybe the people that are casting the people they think

1179
00:47:13.320 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 2>that what they could be because of why the answers

1180
00:47:15.039 --> 00:47:17.039
<v Speaker 2>are saying. But just because I'm answering, that doesn't mean

1181
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I will identify with that in real life because maybe

1182
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I haven't done the work, maybe I haven't gone to counseling.

1183
00:47:21.440 --> 00:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't even know about myself, and maybe I

1184
00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:24.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know what I'm gonna do in real life situations.

1185
00:47:25.000 --> 00:47:26.599
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I think is the problem is is

1186
00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:28.920
<v Speaker 2>why sometimes when they're like there is a lot of

1187
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:32.239
<v Speaker 2>compatibility if you're willing to do the work, But why

1188
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:34.880
<v Speaker 2>do a work with a stranger if you don't really

1189
00:47:35.079 --> 00:47:37.760
<v Speaker 2>have to, unless it's of course that much of a

1190
00:47:37.880 --> 00:47:42.360
<v Speaker 2>like person. I'm a love person, I'm a romantic person.

1191
00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:45.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I am single. I've done a lot of

1192
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:48.480
<v Speaker 2>work for me. It's not about being in just a relationship,

1193
00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:51.239
<v Speaker 2>but the relationship. And so it's like I'd rather wait

1194
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:54.159
<v Speaker 2>my time until I find someone that checks off my boxes.

1195
00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:56.159
<v Speaker 2>If people think that's whatever, then that's a them problem,

1196
00:47:56.199 --> 00:47:58.039
<v Speaker 2>not a me problem. But that's the same thing with

1197
00:47:58.119 --> 00:48:01.239
<v Speaker 2>this is like why I'm hope full, Like, well, what

1198
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:03.159
<v Speaker 2>would this experiment? I was like, can they have a

1199
00:48:03.159 --> 00:48:05.320
<v Speaker 2>sex work or friendly one? Because I want to be

1200
00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 2>a part of the pod it's I.

1201
00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:09.559
<v Speaker 1>Think you would rush love is Blind.

1202
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:13.000
<v Speaker 2>But the thing is is I would be canceled before

1203
00:48:13.000 --> 00:48:16.880
<v Speaker 2>it was started because I'm sure I would be what

1204
00:48:17.039 --> 00:48:18.440
<v Speaker 2>was it called, and I don't know, like kicked out

1205
00:48:18.480 --> 00:48:20.679
<v Speaker 2>because I'm a sex I lady. It was important because

1206
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:22.480
<v Speaker 2>it was funny because this season they did a whole thing.

1207
00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:24.760
<v Speaker 2>We're like, oh, you have an only fans. I'm like,

1208
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:26.760
<v Speaker 2>why do they make it like it's such a bad thing?

1209
00:48:26.960 --> 00:48:29.599
<v Speaker 2>Like uh yeah, and so what that means that I'm

1210
00:48:29.599 --> 00:48:30.639
<v Speaker 2>getting paid, You're welcome.

1211
00:48:30.800 --> 00:48:31.519
<v Speaker 1>I will say that.

1212
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:34.960
<v Speaker 3>My only thing is like I don't think that actual

1213
00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.719
<v Speaker 3>sex work should be so glamorized the way that it

1214
00:48:37.760 --> 00:48:40.159
<v Speaker 3>is in the media, because there's a lot of wide eyed,

1215
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:43.079
<v Speaker 3>bushy tailed eighteen year olds that have no idea what's

1216
00:48:43.079 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 3>going to hit them in the face, and they sign

1217
00:48:45.199 --> 00:48:47.000
<v Speaker 3>up because they think that they're immediately going to get

1218
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:49.039
<v Speaker 3>the wife of their dreams and in reality they're just

1219
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:52.480
<v Speaker 3>being opened up to like the manipulation from X, Y

1220
00:48:52.519 --> 00:48:55.119
<v Speaker 3>and Z, like outside sources. I just feel like we

1221
00:48:55.159 --> 00:48:57.039
<v Speaker 3>could talk about it, but I want people to be

1222
00:48:57.119 --> 00:48:59.800
<v Speaker 3>aware that it's you're not everyone is going to get

1223
00:48:59.840 --> 00:49:02.480
<v Speaker 3>luck and as long as like you're aware of the risk,

1224
00:49:02.519 --> 00:49:04.239
<v Speaker 3>because there's a lot of girls that just like don't know,

1225
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:06.519
<v Speaker 3>like what like we have long term consequences is of

1226
00:49:06.519 --> 00:49:09.039
<v Speaker 3>like you like maybe not going so far important or

1227
00:49:09.079 --> 00:49:11.280
<v Speaker 3>maybe like you should like if you're doing it for

1228
00:49:11.360 --> 00:49:13.280
<v Speaker 3>a specific reason, like what is the reason?

1229
00:49:13.360 --> 00:49:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Like think about it.

1230
00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:17.400
<v Speaker 3>I just want always, like the youth to be super

1231
00:49:17.440 --> 00:49:19.280
<v Speaker 3>aware of what they do is permanent.

1232
00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:22.199
<v Speaker 1>If they're okay with that, everything exists off the basis

1233
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.519
<v Speaker 1>of consent, go crazy, do whatever you want.

1234
00:49:24.599 --> 00:49:26.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm personally not going to judge you, for sure,

1235
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:27.800
<v Speaker 3>but I want people to be.

1236
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Aware that it's not always roses in gold, like it's

1237
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:32.039
<v Speaker 1>for sure.

1238
00:49:32.480 --> 00:49:34.320
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's within any business, and I think

1239
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:36.559
<v Speaker 2>that for me, I definitely agree with you, but I

1240
00:49:36.599 --> 00:49:37.920
<v Speaker 2>think that it's one of those things people have to

1241
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:38.679
<v Speaker 2>really take a heart, you know.

1242
00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I think it's something that it does will not go away.

1243
00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:42.440
<v Speaker 1>It's something that will always be there.

1244
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.199
<v Speaker 2>But I think that's also you know, we are at

1245
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:47.920
<v Speaker 2>an adult level things where it's like with the social media,

1246
00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:50.559
<v Speaker 2>with the you know so many like just media with

1247
00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.599
<v Speaker 2>phones and cameras and everything, like anything is like outdoable.

1248
00:49:53.639 --> 00:49:55.480
<v Speaker 2>So it's like one of those things where it's like

1249
00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:57.920
<v Speaker 2>you can't really beat it. So it's like you should know,

1250
00:49:58.320 --> 00:50:00.000
<v Speaker 2>you should you know what I mean. So it's like it's.

1251
00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:03.960
<v Speaker 5>Have interviews for sure, works sure, And that's the beautiful

1252
00:50:03.960 --> 00:50:05.800
<v Speaker 5>thing is like there's good, there's bad, and ugly and

1253
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:08.760
<v Speaker 5>mainstream and nine to five, like you said, you were

1254
00:50:08.760 --> 00:50:10.599
<v Speaker 5>harassed by you know, some of your bosses bier to

1255
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:12.519
<v Speaker 5>And it's just being aware.

1256
00:50:12.199 --> 00:50:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Being aware of your surrounding, being aware of what's right

1257
00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:16.719
<v Speaker 2>or wrong, what your boundaries are, and like being like

1258
00:50:16.840 --> 00:50:18.559
<v Speaker 2>just talking about those things. And that that's why I

1259
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:21.079
<v Speaker 2>think is it's such a good thing for people to

1260
00:50:21.199 --> 00:50:23.159
<v Speaker 2>more that the key you communicate with it, the more

1261
00:50:23.199 --> 00:50:25.360
<v Speaker 2>that it doesn't seem like that's such a bad stigma.

1262
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:28.199
<v Speaker 1>Like you suld talk you see something, say something, speak

1263
00:50:28.239 --> 00:50:28.800
<v Speaker 1>about it. You know.

1264
00:50:28.960 --> 00:50:31.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if we gave people like a safe space to

1265
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:33.480
<v Speaker 3>open up and like just be able to like talk

1266
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:37.360
<v Speaker 3>about this candidly, the understanding would just goes so far,

1267
00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:40.519
<v Speaker 3>like women would feel more comfortable with talking about it.

1268
00:50:40.559 --> 00:50:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Like the fact that people are so uncomfortable talking about

1269
00:50:42.840 --> 00:50:44.239
<v Speaker 1>things like sex or whatever.

1270
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:47.000
<v Speaker 3>I think it's so silly, like everyone has sex, Like

1271
00:50:47.079 --> 00:50:49.360
<v Speaker 3>and how are you here home? I hear, so that's

1272
00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.079
<v Speaker 3>your favorite position actually, like missionary.

1273
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 2>Missionary only so you can give eye contact. I just

1274
00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:56.360
<v Speaker 2>think she works so hard on it's really intimate.

1275
00:50:56.559 --> 00:51:00.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, it work really hard. It's just really intimate.

1276
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<v Speaker 1>And like also like I'm like a fan of my boobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Just look at these.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's my personal and it feels it feels better

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<v Speaker 3>for me. I have something called a retroverted uterus, so

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<v Speaker 3>it tilts backwards instead of tilting forward, and.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, it just like it's more pleasant for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's that's just that I like it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>like it so.

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<v Speaker 2>Last thing, what is some advice that you could give

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<v Speaker 2>to anybody out there that maybe is looking for a

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<v Speaker 2>sugar baby situation, just a content creator situation. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>some life advice that you could give any of your

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<v Speaker 2>fans out there watching you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if you want to go find a rich husband, first,

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00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 3>you need to kind of write down all.

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00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:42.320
<v Speaker 1>The qualities of a man that would satisfy you. Writing

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00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:44.519
<v Speaker 1>it down is a really good form of making sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you stay accountable to your uncles and don't stay distracted.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I hate when people bring up to me and

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<v Speaker 3>they say, oh, so you want a rich man that'll

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<v Speaker 3>treat you like shit instead of getting a poor one

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<v Speaker 3>that'll treat you like a queen. I was like, who

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<v Speaker 3>said that you have to sacrifice those things what you want?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I could say that my current partner is doing

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<v Speaker 3>amazing and he treats me like a million dollars, like

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<v Speaker 3>he is genuinely so in love with me. I'm in

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<v Speaker 3>love with him, but he just goes the extra mile

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<v Speaker 3>above and beyond, and financially I'm coomfortable. So it's just like,

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<v Speaker 3>why do I have to sacrifice? Like you're just constantly

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<v Speaker 3>telling me that I have to settle for.

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<v Speaker 1>Things that I don't have to settle for shit.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you don't know, you have to understand your worth,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to understand your value. And if that's why

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<v Speaker 3>I have like qualms with people on like the Fresh

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<v Speaker 3>and Fit podcast because it's like these guys that are

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<v Speaker 3>preaching like, oh, like you want a high value man like,

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<v Speaker 3>but you're not a high valueman.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what do you bring to the table? It brings security.

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<v Speaker 3>I decorate the table and wash the dishes on the table,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I step out and go to Pilate's class

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<v Speaker 3>to look good for when you're done with your meeting

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<v Speaker 3>and talking to guys, and then I.

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<v Speaker 1>Give you emotional security. I'll be the mother of your children.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your partner, I'm your best friend.

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<v Speaker 3>I will do what you need me to do because

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<v Speaker 3>I will function as a compliment to you and you

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<v Speaker 3>will full as a compliment to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to be like this, like weird, slavery

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<v Speaker 1>binding relationship that people painted to be. It's not like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a little bit more traditional with my values.

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<v Speaker 3>And just because I vocalize it, people were calling me

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<v Speaker 3>a gold digger and a sugar baby.

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<v Speaker 1>And all this stuff. So why shy away from that

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<v Speaker 1>instead of I just embraced it. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>you want, and you know you're worth and here we

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<v Speaker 1>amen to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that for you. I appreciate your time. Thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much for coming on
