Speaker 1: Hello, Thank you for having me.
Speaker 2: Yes, hello and welcome. I'm excited to get to know
Speaker 2: you a little bit better. I've been, you know, searching
Speaker 2: the internet who should I speak to?
Speaker 1: And you, definitely your.
Speaker 2: Name has been been popping up quite a lot, and
Speaker 2: I just you were captivating.
Speaker 1: I feel like you're a beautiful lady who you just.
Speaker 2: Exude confidence and you know, your personality shows through your
Speaker 2: social media. So it's like I had to come and
Speaker 2: sit down with you find out what all this is
Speaker 2: all about your rich husbands feels.
Speaker 1: You know, how you know personal you are with like.
Speaker 2: Your female fans giving them advice and and all about
Speaker 2: you to know you get a little bit better.
Speaker 3: Well, absolutely, I just want to say, like, never in
Speaker 3: my life did I think that I would be on
Speaker 3: the same couch as Alexis Texas.
Speaker 1: I've actually watched my porn before. I mean, who has it?
Speaker 2: I mean, you said you lived in Miami. You know
Speaker 2: I'm quite popular in Miami.
Speaker 1: Might I would say?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 2: My big booty definitely ran the streets of South Beach
Speaker 2: many times for Bang Roads.
Speaker 1: The Beauty Standard. I love it. I love it. So
Speaker 1: were you let's talk about that?
Speaker 2: So when you got the DM and me asking you
Speaker 2: to are you like, oh my god, is this real? No,
Speaker 2: it's like kind of the thing or like text is
Speaker 2: like I know, I mean I am here with that
Speaker 2: so verified. So sometimes you just never know because even
Speaker 2: like me sometimes doing working with other people like yourself,
Speaker 2: it's like sometimes you don't know is if it's a
Speaker 2: fake page or whatever. You can kind of see when
Speaker 2: she see like what your posting styles are. But at first,
Speaker 2: I mean I didn't know you know who I was.
Speaker 2: But I'm grateful that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I definitely I'm familiar with like a lot
Speaker 3: of sex workers because especially like with my type of
Speaker 3: content and stuff, a lot of like sugar baby humored,
Speaker 3: so I'm like cool with strippers, cool with worn actresses,
Speaker 3: all that stuff. So your name was definitely familiar, but
Speaker 3: from just you know, you are an icon in the industry.
Speaker 3: She had your name rings a bell to literally everyone,
Speaker 3: even if they don't want to wait admit it. I
Speaker 3: rarely mentioned it to my boyfriend. I was like, Hey,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a podcast with books of text. He's like,
Speaker 3: no way, get a selfie trying sick.
Speaker 2: The belfie or a selfie those are really poplite.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it, Okay, So let's talk
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 2: You said your content is you know, super sex worker
Speaker 2: friendly in a sense, you know, he sayss like it's
Speaker 2: you know, sugar baby talk. How did you get into
Speaker 2: that type of content? Is it something that.
Speaker 1: You were real live sugar baby?
Speaker 2: Did you just like the whole lifestyle and like what
Speaker 2: is like how did that kind of fall into play
Speaker 2: where that's your content and how you became so viral.
Speaker 3: So actually what started what has started happening was when
Speaker 3: I was eighteen and I was living by myself in Miami.
Speaker 3: My parents were my family were like they were in Miami,
Speaker 3: but they were very strict on me always. So the
Speaker 3: second that I had just enough money to get an
Speaker 3: apartment and just move out, I did because I.
Speaker 1: Was just wanting to experience.
Speaker 2: So you went to high school like you went to
Speaker 2: your like you grew up like in Miami.
Speaker 3: Miami, but I never did shit like parents or Latino
Speaker 3: like immigrants like don't fuck around.
Speaker 2: But being in Miami, like you know, everyone you think
Speaker 2: about it. You see what's on the movies. If you've
Speaker 2: ever been, it's like, is it so as explicit as
Speaker 2: it is? Or were you completely like shy, like shut
Speaker 2: or not shun, but like kept away from anything like that,
Speaker 2: like the bikini thongs, people walking out and very like,
Speaker 2: you know, just they don't give a fuck attitude being sheltered.
Speaker 2: Did you were you around me of that or did
Speaker 2: you just kind of always have that burning inside you.
Speaker 3: I had seen it, because you know, my parents locked
Speaker 3: me in a basement, like I had seen it. Like
Speaker 3: I was familiar with the culture, but for the longest time,
Speaker 3: I was not able to partake or even explore, Like
Speaker 3: I never even went to parties in high school. I
Speaker 3: was so focused on getting out of the house so
Speaker 3: I could just kind of live life that I graduated
Speaker 3: in high school early, like at sixteen, I took so
Speaker 3: many classes, got out of there, started working from there
Speaker 3: to shave up to have an apartment so when I
Speaker 3: was eighteen, I could move out. Okay, so now I'm eighteen.
Speaker 3: I had just moved out, and I had gotten a
Speaker 3: DM from someone who had just continuously been mentioned like
Speaker 3: trying to like get me.
Speaker 1: To like meet up or whatever. And it was a
Speaker 1: very obscure account.
Speaker 3: But from what I could see, it looked like they
Speaker 3: lived very fun life because there was yachts.
Speaker 2: There was clubs, but you couldn't really like see like
Speaker 2: who the person is, Like it was very luxury lifestyle,
Speaker 2: like it could be something like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was.
Speaker 3: Definitely very obscure, and I was just feeling like I
Speaker 3: had like a couple of drinks.
Speaker 1: I was the only person in my office that day
Speaker 1: because I had to go in for some flyling, and I.
Speaker 3: Was like, you know, let me just respond to this
Speaker 3: person to like what they want. So they sent me
Speaker 3: a message like hey, like let's let's hang out, let's do.
Speaker 1: This, let's do whatever. Can I take you to dinner?
Speaker 3: Constantly like a constant parage of just trying to get
Speaker 3: me to hang out.
Speaker 1: When do I say yeah? And he's like where are
Speaker 1: you right now?
Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm in the office, but I'm
Speaker 3: just here like on my own free will, just kind
Speaker 3: of filing some stuff.
Speaker 1: So I'm like organized for next week. And then he goes,
Speaker 1: I'll pick you up right now and take you to lunch.
Speaker 1: We can go somewhere nearby. Cool. I'm literally just turn eighteen.
Speaker 2: I've never had like a relationship and this is an
Speaker 2: adult still. The account that's obscure.
Speaker 1: You have no idea.
Speaker 2: You don't know who you're walking into nothing, You're just
Speaker 2: stupid and at the time too, let's you know, set
Speaker 2: the story. I guess the picture is like where you
Speaker 2: you were completely single, You weren't seeing anybody. You were
Speaker 2: just young, dumb and who knows if you are full of.
Speaker 3: Cup I wasn't getting any Let's just say, okay, so
Speaker 3: you were full of it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was going on? So you were curious? You
Speaker 1: were like.
Speaker 2: Someone's telling you these things, which it sounds nice things.
Speaker 2: You're like, fuck it, what do I have to lose?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I didn't know what danger was. I hadn't gone
Speaker 1: into true cry. So you my girl.
Speaker 2: So okay, so you go down stairs or you go
Speaker 2: out of your office, and you what do you walk into?
Speaker 3: So some like this like Russian guy like pulls up
Speaker 3: in like a g wagon, nice watch.
Speaker 1: Whatever?
Speaker 2: Are you scared at any point? At this at this point?
Speaker 2: Are you just like whatever? Because I guess cute? Okay,
Speaker 2: all right. He was like a little chubby and I
Speaker 2: like chubby man. Okay, you little chubby got a nice watch,
Speaker 2: got a nice.
Speaker 3: Car, and like you seemed like an asshole, like off
Speaker 3: the bottom, like oh perfect, So sign me up.
Speaker 1: So yeah, nothing.
Speaker 3: I went to lunch with this guy and he was
Speaker 3: kind of an asshole, but I kind of liked it
Speaker 3: because it was like fun and mysterious and I had
Speaker 3: no idea who he was. He was dressed seeing himself
Speaker 3: to like be like this like obscure pardon to like
Speaker 3: be redundant and reuse the word, but an obscure like
Speaker 3: air to something.
Speaker 1: That I had no idea whatever, And you're not asking
Speaker 1: any questions. I don't give a fuck. I'm like, you're
Speaker 1: paid for You're paid for lunch.
Speaker 3: Okay, sick, I'll just have another one.
Speaker 1: Please, I'm hungry.
Speaker 3: I was like eating smart ones like that's how like
Speaker 3: little money I had, like and I was just like
Speaker 3: literally just like stuff in my face because I'm like,
Speaker 3: this is the first real meal I've had in the
Speaker 3: longest time.
Speaker 1: Okay. I didn't give a fuck if we had a
Speaker 1: conversation or not. I'm eating like I'm little girl.
Speaker 3: So nothing, and then I kind of just start like
Speaker 3: this relationship with him where he's always like trying to
Speaker 3: like bring me place, to take me out.
Speaker 1: To a club.
Speaker 2: Any of it's sexual at this point or is he
Speaker 2: trying to like be very handsy, like you know, is
Speaker 2: it like the whole like mister Gray like scenario where
Speaker 2: it's like kind of those things, or is it like
Speaker 2: because some people, you know, there's companionship and obviously he
Speaker 2: met you. It's just like an Instagram thing, you know.
Speaker 2: So it's like he has no clue what you're doing.
Speaker 1: I don't even know your age. I'm pretty sure to
Speaker 1: ask you no.
Speaker 2: I mean, like so it's like, you know, your beautiful chick,
Speaker 2: So I get it, so that it's like, but sometimes
Speaker 2: people don't always want those things.
Speaker 1: So he was full on like you're like my girlfriend
Speaker 1: kind of but like he say that we are not dating. Okay,
Speaker 1: He's like, we're not an issue. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I found here's a lot of things
Speaker 3: in the story.
Speaker 1: So basically what happened was that he was not this air.
Speaker 3: He was just a club promoter at like a like
Speaker 3: associated to a really good hospitality group in Miami. So
Speaker 3: they were always doing really crazy fun things. Okay, he
Speaker 3: didn't make good money, but he wasn't in air Like
Speaker 3: that was like a lie and I think that he
Speaker 3: just lied to me to get my attention in the beginning,
Speaker 3: not that I really even cared, but but.
Speaker 2: Something in your head went like ding that you were like, hey,
Speaker 2: if you're gonna use me, I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Use this situation. Of course.
Speaker 2: So at this point now you kind of get the
Speaker 2: idea of somewhat and not in having any idea.
Speaker 1: But like the sugar base the aspect, like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it's like at that then he's like I can
Speaker 2: get what I want and I don't have to like
Speaker 2: you have feelings or anything like that and still getting whatever. Okay,
Speaker 2: I fully was attracted to this guy. I liked him
Speaker 2: so much, but he was very stoic and just like
Speaker 2: the way that he handled himself, and he was very
Speaker 2: no bullshit. So he would say like, oh, you're a
Speaker 2: gorgeous girl, Like you're a pretty girl.
Speaker 1: You're my company.
Speaker 3: So in exchange, like I will give you these experiences
Speaker 3: and pay rent and that's it, like it's a transaction,
Speaker 3: like you come with me when I want you to
Speaker 3: come to places, and then I in exchange.
Speaker 1: He was just very cold like that. He was like
Speaker 1: this is how the world war.
Speaker 2: And you liked it as far as like just for
Speaker 2: what it was transactionally or did you start develop feelings
Speaker 2: for this person.
Speaker 1: Immediately just had feelings for him.
Speaker 2: And so you weren't looking outside for anything else because
Speaker 2: you were being fulfilled.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then he just went ahead and just go
Speaker 3: and like gave me all of these like benefits per se,
Speaker 3: like this is his job. Like he gave me these
Speaker 3: benefits because for him and here for oh exactly, he
Speaker 3: just did that.
Speaker 2: Because describe some of your benefits, Like let's talk about
Speaker 2: how because you know what it does sound very trans well,
Speaker 2: obviously it's transactual in whatever case, but as far as
Speaker 2: like job wise, so like break it down and like
Speaker 2: layman terms for like people out there, try of get
Speaker 2: to like what are these incentives that he's dangling over
Speaker 2: yourself to give you? Like where you're I'm sure at
Speaker 2: one point you probably stopped working because you didn't need
Speaker 2: to like that.
Speaker 3: I never stopped working because I was always afraid of
Speaker 3: like not being able to keep him because he was
Speaker 3: very bipolar and the way that he would just like
Speaker 3: be like really warm with me one day and one
Speaker 3: day he says that he's.
Speaker 1: Sick of me, and it was very toxic and that
Speaker 1: like front.
Speaker 3: I never stopped working, but I did pick up a
Speaker 3: second job being his assistant at some point because he's like, hey,
Speaker 3: look I already like give you all of these things,
Speaker 3: Like I'll give you also like just an extra like
Speaker 3: one hundred bucks a day if you just like handle
Speaker 3: a couple of things for me. Mm hm, nothing too crazy,
Speaker 3: really easy. I'll just give you one hundred dollars every
Speaker 3: single day. And I was like, Okay, I'm broke a
Speaker 3: hundred bucks, Like that's what I make working eight out
Speaker 3: a day, so why not.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it kind of got like that, and then
Speaker 1: after a while he told me that like it just
Speaker 1: wasn't working anymore.
Speaker 3: I just wasn't getting what I needed emotionally because I
Speaker 3: just like wanted him to love me. But he would
Speaker 3: do these things, these things to like punish me over
Speaker 3: very small things because it was a very toxic relationship
Speaker 3: where he revoked kissing for like a month and he
Speaker 3: knew that that was super important to me and like
Speaker 3: it would fuck me up, like emotionally and mentally, but like.
Speaker 1: I just didn't do anything. How long did this whole
Speaker 1: thing go on. This was like four and a half
Speaker 1: months months. Okay, yeah, other guys say years. I was like,
Speaker 1: thank god, this is not It was months and it
Speaker 1: felt like yours genuinely did.
Speaker 2: So when this when, at this time period, did you
Speaker 2: like figure out that he was not this air he
Speaker 2: was a club promoter. He was like being a facade
Speaker 2: of what it was. Not only like the emotional thing
Speaker 2: that you were you were lacking because he wasn't offering it,
Speaker 2: but he also was putting up this front that was
Speaker 2: really not him at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So almost he kind of told me within the first
Speaker 3: because he already got the vibe that like I just
Speaker 3: didn't care, and he picked up on the fact that
Speaker 3: like I was actually like attracted to.
Speaker 1: Him, like I really liked him.
Speaker 2: So y'all were fucking Yeah, where y'all bringing other people
Speaker 2: into the relationship at this time or at any time?
Speaker 1: No, I didn't.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure that he was like seeing other wams
Speaker 3: but not with each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. And for me, like I.
Speaker 3: Thought it was exclusive and all that stuff, but he
Speaker 3: was a different story.
Speaker 1: So this is the reason kind of the setting the
Speaker 1: tone of like.
Speaker 2: What made you become this sugar baby like cis scenario
Speaker 2: of like something that kind of like where you see
Speaker 2: how you're getting played, you got feelings for something, but
Speaker 2: you're also liking something because it becomes addicting the lifestyle,
Speaker 2: and even though if you're paying for it or provided
Speaker 2: for it or whatever, it is, when it's just like
Speaker 2: once you get the good champagne, you don't want.
Speaker 1: To go back to the cheap shit. So it's like,
Speaker 1: how do you maintain it? How do you know? Whatever?
Speaker 2: So what happens that it's like it's a he's saying
Speaker 2: it's not working or it's not working for you, Like
Speaker 2: what makes the tone where that you're the next step
Speaker 2: of where this breaks out?
Speaker 3: So I go ahead and I tell him like I
Speaker 3: just can't like continue like this relationship anymore because I
Speaker 3: have to put me first.
Speaker 1: But he, even.
Speaker 3: Though it almost seems like he hates me, like he
Speaker 3: doesn't give a shit about me, he says, well, that.
Speaker 2: Isn't that the game though, because that's but that's the
Speaker 2: thing is like I think.
Speaker 1: Also too, it's like I don't know how old is he?
Speaker 1: He was ten years my senior. So it's like and
Speaker 1: it's just men, I think in general. Is it's the
Speaker 1: control of like it's like cat and mouse, Yes exactly.
Speaker 2: So you're very young and impressionable, you're being at the
Speaker 2: you know, I introduced to something whatever, and he's seeing
Speaker 2: the sparkle in your eye, I mean looking at him
Speaker 2: from where from the beginning to like now you're like
Speaker 2: in love.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was my god and yeah that yeah, he
Speaker 1: loved that so much. But he understood that, like I
Speaker 1: was like slipping away from his control a.
Speaker 3: Bit, and he was like, do you still need help
Speaker 3: with your rent because at this point, I was getting
Speaker 3: sexually harassed.
Speaker 1: By my boss and I had to find another job.
Speaker 1: But I was worried because I had very limited work experience.
Speaker 3: I'm eighteen, yes, like I'm in college and I'm a
Speaker 3: junior in college at eighteen and.
Speaker 1: All this stuff.
Speaker 3: People we're just not gonna hire me based off of
Speaker 3: the fact that I'm a woman and the fact that
Speaker 3: I'm eighteen years old, because my mental capabilities will always
Speaker 3: be overlooked.
Speaker 1: It's just like something that will happen in corporate America.
Speaker 3: People don't take you seriously until you make them take
Speaker 3: you seriously. So he understood that I was getting sectually
Speaker 3: harassed and I was trying to look for other jobs,
Speaker 3: but I would have to take a step down from pay,
Speaker 3: and like I probably wouldn't be able to make my rent.
Speaker 1: He did have a soft spot for me. So he
Speaker 1: was like, how about this.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna walk away from taking care of you, but
Speaker 3: I'm gonna introduce someone in your life that will take
Speaker 3: care of you.
Speaker 1: And it's not what you think. You don't have to
Speaker 1: do anything.
Speaker 3: It is a girl that's in a very special circumstance
Speaker 3: and if you help her, she'll help you.
Speaker 1: So I was like, Okay, let's see what's the special circumstance.
Speaker 1: So this woman, she is the inspiration of my character.
Speaker 3: My character is basically a parody of her, and all respect,
Speaker 3: like all perfect respect, because it's just she was very comical.
Speaker 1: In her own way. She didn't like me, so I
Speaker 1: just made her persona like a satire she is.
Speaker 3: She used to tell people she was Rushy, but she's
Speaker 3: actually Ukrainian because she just figured Americans were stupid, like
Speaker 3: too stupid before the war to like understand the difference.
Speaker 3: And she was a sugar baby. She was one hundred
Speaker 3: percent of sugar baby. And she was in a relationship
Speaker 3: with a very wealthy man in Florida, but he wanted
Speaker 3: her to live with him, and she didn't have friends
Speaker 3: or family in Miami. But she told him that she
Speaker 3: couldn't stay with him because she was staying with a
Speaker 3: cousin and her family.
Speaker 1: Would be much more comfortable if she stayed with the cousin.
Speaker 3: So I had to play the role of this cousin, okay,
Speaker 3: and she would stay with me my tiny one bedroom apartment,
Speaker 3: literally sharing a bed. And this woman didn't have any cash,
Speaker 3: but she had his credit card, so she couldn't pay
Speaker 3: my rent, but she would give me literally everything I
Speaker 3: needed so I could make rent. She would get groceries, cosmetics,
Speaker 3: literally everything off of his card. As long as she's
Speaker 3: not paying for a physical hotel room so he can
Speaker 3: track her down. Then she would be happy because for
Speaker 3: a couple of months, I'd be buying her time so
Speaker 3: she could work up the courage to move in with
Speaker 3: this guy. And that was the relationship. But she spoke
Speaker 3: very limited English, and she was also very cold in
Speaker 3: the way that she kind of like treated me because
Speaker 3: she understood that I was going to be like a
Speaker 3: very temporary person in her life.
Speaker 1: But after a while, and she was thirty two and I.
Speaker 3: Was eighteen, so she also saw me as like this
Speaker 3: like kid, you know that she was like.
Speaker 1: Whatever it did, you try to have any kind of
Speaker 1: relationship with her. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Definitely tried for
Speaker 1: a bit, and then I noticed that she started to
Speaker 1: warm up to.
Speaker 3: Me when she just like saw me making a lot
Speaker 3: of mistakes with dating and dating older guys in general,
Speaker 3: because I already had the taste of my mouth of
Speaker 3: dating older men, Like I like the authority, I like
Speaker 3: the power, like the fact that they were usually like
Speaker 3: more financially secure. It was attractive, Like it was like
Speaker 3: the whole like boss secretary dynamic where you're like, you
Speaker 3: like this guy that like takes charge and like makes
Speaker 3: you feel comfortable enough to shut your brain off for
Speaker 3: a second. Women flourish when they feel like they're being
Speaker 3: provided for.
Speaker 2: I think that women can let well depending on the situations,
Speaker 2: because you let down your masculine and you can't let
Speaker 2: be allowed to be in your femi in where you
Speaker 2: feel like you are taken care of.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely true.
Speaker 3: So she kind of just like saw me like, you know,
Speaker 3: paying for my own ubers to dates and coming back.
Speaker 2: And like crying because she was like your mentor, like
Speaker 2: you're in between, You're coming from this sugar baby situation.
Speaker 2: She's in this other whole situation that you're kind of
Speaker 2: like navigating what you're kind of seeing. Does she telling
Speaker 2: you about what her situation is? Are you just knowing
Speaker 2: that she's paying for his things with a cart so she?
Speaker 2: Cause are you getting any insight for the sugar baby
Speaker 2: world from her?
Speaker 1: So as that's the whole is like that the knowledge
Speaker 1: is power. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So not only would she give me advice on
Speaker 3: how to deal with men, uh, but also advice like
Speaker 3: on like just like being like a sugar baby. Even
Speaker 3: though I was like, I'm not a sugar baby. She
Speaker 3: was like, but the arrangement that you're looking for, like
Speaker 3: this rich boyfriend that.
Speaker 1: Will take care of you is not that far off.
Speaker 1: So open your mind a little bit because we're saying
Speaker 1: sugar baby, sugar daddy whatever. But like it's not like
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to.
Speaker 3: Be this old decrepit man who like is like, you're
Speaker 3: not like an escort, Like it could be a relationship,
Speaker 3: but it's a relationship where the transactional bounds or like
Speaker 3: set in place and like these are the.
Speaker 1: Expectations and anything.
Speaker 3: It's better than like a normal relationship because at least
Speaker 3: there's no bullshit. You're honest, I want this, you want
Speaker 3: this meet me in the middle of the transaction is broken,
Speaker 3: well then we go go or separate way.
Speaker 2: But don't you feel as though the lines are blurred
Speaker 2: from the escort to a sugar baby.
Speaker 1: It's kind of the same thing, Yeah, I mean definitely
Speaker 1: for sure, Like.
Speaker 2: It's transactional, it's not whatever, obviously it's in each situation.
Speaker 1: It's a choice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's the thing, is like, why you
Speaker 2: know sex work is what it is.
Speaker 1: It's because we're adults and where you're wanting to choose
Speaker 1: to say, call it what you want.
Speaker 2: But in a sense, it's still transactional, which and therefore
Speaker 2: makes it a sex act of course.
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is always why I found it really interesting
Speaker 3: how it's so stigmatized just because it's like, okay, like
Speaker 3: maybe we were a little bit more upfront with the
Speaker 3: fact that we don't want to end up with some
Speaker 3: guy that's broken living in his mom's basement, and now
Speaker 3: all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: We're the problem. And it's always a broke guys and
Speaker 1: have a lot of shit to say, like, oh, she
Speaker 1: just wants you for your money. It's like, babe, look
Speaker 1: at your bank account, Like I don't want you for
Speaker 1: your money, keep your two cents, like for sure you
Speaker 1: need it more than I do.
Speaker 2: I think it's perspective, and I think in a lot
Speaker 2: of people in certain things is because you know, when
Speaker 2: we're taught at the young age, it's this fairy tale
Speaker 2: situation that someone's going to come and save you on
Speaker 2: this white horse or whatever, and that's not reality, where
Speaker 2: it's like, I think, the perception of what people think do,
Speaker 2: and then you will go into this whole other era
Speaker 2: of like women or just want equal rights and those
Speaker 2: things like that.
Speaker 1: So then it's like what equal rights mean? Is it
Speaker 1: just pay?
Speaker 2: Is it because you know finances? And then it became
Speaker 2: like whose dick is bigger? Situation of like you know,
Speaker 2: who's going to be more alpha being female or masculine,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And then now it's like
Speaker 2: the regression of like why shouldn't a woman be taken
Speaker 2: care of and the levels of what that means for you.
Speaker 2: So for you, if it means the status of having
Speaker 2: somebody having his shit together, making you feel secure that
Speaker 2: you can navigate your life and just have a backboard
Speaker 2: or a sounding board to what you need, then why not?
Speaker 2: And that's why for me, I've always been an equal opportunity.
Speaker 2: Like for me, it's like who like to each his own.
Speaker 2: Whatever you do that doesn't it doesn't hurt me, then
Speaker 2: do whatever you want to do. Is far until you
Speaker 2: start affecting other people's lives, is what I feel like.
Speaker 2: Then it's like something questionable. Then decide what you want
Speaker 2: to do. But I feel like good for you, you know,
Speaker 2: And that's why I think that one reason seeing your
Speaker 2: page and like not knowing anything about your backstory or
Speaker 2: anything like that, but is that you have such a
Speaker 2: confidence about you, which a lot of women and again
Speaker 2: you find your happy medium in between and maybe a
Speaker 2: sugar baby situation. But in relationships and how you navigate
Speaker 2: through relationships is you should be able to say you
Speaker 2: want to be taken care of. It shouldn't be like
Speaker 2: if you being in a situation where everything's you know, equal,
Speaker 2: whatever that's your roommate situation, was any situation that's any
Speaker 2: different And if you're not you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: contributing on whatever equal means for you and each relationship
Speaker 2: is different. So navigating from you not really dating a
Speaker 2: lot from in your past being like young, because you
Speaker 2: start this when you're eighteen, you know, so you have
Speaker 2: no like real experience to.
Speaker 1: Really judge off.
Speaker 2: Now have this thirty something year old woman who she's hardcore.
Speaker 2: She's telling you she's a little bit cold, but she's
Speaker 2: obviously loving it a little bit because she's seeing you
Speaker 2: and being endearing to you and telling you the game
Speaker 2: and kind of stepping those things.
Speaker 1: Where did you take that knowledge after she left?
Speaker 2: And how long did she stay with you until you
Speaker 2: progress to your next situation with me?
Speaker 3: For three to four months, and in that.
Speaker 1: You still see in contact with her to this day.
Speaker 3: We have each other on social media, so it's like
Speaker 3: very casual and very light and sparse.
Speaker 1: Does she know that your character has based off of her? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I definitely.
Speaker 3: I told her when I ran into her in Carbone
Speaker 3: in Miami, she was with her sugar duddy that at
Speaker 3: this point they're married, okay, and she lives with very great,
Speaker 3: wonderful life and she's gotten everything that she's ever wanted.
Speaker 1: So I told her in Carbone and I was like,
Speaker 1: do you She's like, you're doing the whole like Russian
Speaker 1: sugar be you thing. It's doing so well.
Speaker 3: Congratulations, You've always like wanted to love that do personality
Speaker 3: things on the internet, and I was like, but are
Speaker 3: you like you're aware that that's based off of you, right,
Speaker 3: like literally, and then she goes, I had an inkling,
Speaker 3: but I like, yeah, her own words, she was like,
Speaker 3: I had an inkling, but I wasn't sure.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't gonna.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's awesome to like give kind of like a keep.
Speaker 3: On going credit where credit is Yeah, I know. She
Speaker 3: She's like, it's hilarious. My friends love your content, so
Speaker 3: it's great. Yeah, and it's true. And I was like,
Speaker 3: I'm just you know, just uh, regurgitating all of the
Speaker 3: advice that you gave me, but like in a funnier
Speaker 3: way so it's more palatable.
Speaker 1: Digestible for the modern woman.
Speaker 3: We know that what she's seeking is this type of
Speaker 3: relationship or beat like this type of lifestyle, right. So
Speaker 3: I would say that when she eventually did leave, it
Speaker 3: was because my mother came to visit me, and I.
Speaker 1: Just couldn't explain why I was like literally sharing a
Speaker 1: bed with like this like random woman who did not
Speaker 1: know you're sharing a bed with her too. Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I don't have an extra or anything. I had a
Speaker 1: king bed, so we would just like did just snuggle
Speaker 1: who was a little spoon who was a big song.
Speaker 3: No, we actually did not stuggle. She would keep to
Speaker 3: her side. I would keep to my side. But it
Speaker 3: was so interesting visiting that you don't know this person
Speaker 3: in and you're just like sharing absolutely everything, and.
Speaker 1: I was like a hostel bit different. But but it's yours, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: it's just my apartment. I can't afford, so it is yours. Yes.
Speaker 1: And when she did leave, I started like dating like.
Speaker 3: This much older arab Gui and he was like taking
Speaker 3: care of me and doing all this stuff.
Speaker 2: But then I so your mom came, and then you
Speaker 2: couldn't explain that she had she had to.
Speaker 3: Like my mother always like if you need help, like
Speaker 3: I'm not going to take away your freedom, like you
Speaker 3: can just like always come home and ask for help.
Speaker 3: But like I don't want you like like having to
Speaker 3: you know, sacrifice things like privacy or like even safety
Speaker 3: because you don't even know these people.
Speaker 2: So what did you tell her that she was because
Speaker 2: you couldn't say, like, hey, this is.
Speaker 1: My mentor for being a sugara.
Speaker 3: No, maybe I just said that she was a family
Speaker 3: member of the X and okay, yeah, and she wasn't.
Speaker 1: She was his friend. But my mother was like, hey,
Speaker 1: like just like you can't do this like I would.
Speaker 3: I would appreciate it you if you like got her
Speaker 3: out and I spoke to her and I was like,
Speaker 3: are you okay with advance? She was like, honestly, like,
Speaker 3: this is just the time that I needed to realize
Speaker 3: that it's time to move in with this guy.
Speaker 1: So was that the guy that she's actually married to?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so it did work out right, but she.
Speaker 3: Was just like really anxious about over the fact, like
Speaker 3: sharing a space with this man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's inescapable naturally. Yeah. So at that point she
Speaker 1: was like, okay, fine, like I'm just going to move
Speaker 1: in with him. And she does that, and my life
Speaker 1: progresses and like this is right before the quarantine.
Speaker 3: I was dating this like Arab guy who was a
Speaker 3: club owner in Miami, seventeen years my senior.
Speaker 1: But it just I am like old wrinkley balls. But
Speaker 1: he was he looked he looked very young. He was
Speaker 1: he looked it was Algerian, you know the age.
Speaker 3: Well, but it just like I am young, like I
Speaker 3: wanted to.
Speaker 1: Have like a more passionate relationship and he was just.
Speaker 3: Like more like looking for like stability and like a wife,
Speaker 3: but like it just like wasn't the passion was there
Speaker 3: and I was like seeking it and.
Speaker 1: He wasn't meeting me in the middle. So I had
Speaker 1: to tell him, like I like you, but you don't
Speaker 1: fulfill me. Like as far was he paying all of
Speaker 1: your things at this time?
Speaker 3: At this time, like I was just like living with him, Okay,
Speaker 3: so he was paying for everything. Yeah, he'sara, but you
Speaker 3: know they apologize yeahs and stuff, so it's.
Speaker 1: Not bad, but like, what does your closet look like?
Speaker 1: It's very beautiful. You should have security in your closet.
Speaker 1: Let's how Champagne nine in your classes?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, so at this time, at this point, it's like
Speaker 3: still like the quarantine. Like people everyone switched to online dating,
Speaker 3: which I'm kind of like conflicted about, but I got
Speaker 3: in in my first match was this guy who was
Speaker 3: eleven years my senior.
Speaker 1: He lived a fun young lifestyle, like he liked to
Speaker 1: travel and ski and like do all this fun?
Speaker 2: But do you see all this because of pictures or
Speaker 2: because like they're telling you that they like these things?
Speaker 1: Like how do you know? And like how do you
Speaker 1: like scouts out accommodation?
Speaker 3: So like you check you take a look at their profiles,
Speaker 3: like you look at their watches, like their car, maybe
Speaker 3: like their surroundings, the type of finishes their house has
Speaker 3: in those pictures, where are they vacationing? Like I could
Speaker 3: recognize certain places, Like I'm like, oh, he's insane arts like.
Speaker 1: Okay, and I'll be like, oh my god, when did
Speaker 1: you go to the same parts If.
Speaker 3: He says he went during high season the thing, okay,
Speaker 3: so oh like Aspen, Like Aspen's not like a cheap place.
Speaker 1: To just get you're doing your homework.
Speaker 3: I mean it's like for me, it was like very
Speaker 3: familiar with traveling at this point. So I was just like, well,
Speaker 3: if he likes to kind of like you know, rich
Speaker 3: people go to the same places around the same time.
Speaker 1: Just like a flock of birds, yea. And if they're
Speaker 1: doing that, well, then they can afford the rates to
Speaker 1: be where they're scamming to be or were they're scamming.
Speaker 3: That's a good point, but I mean at that point
Speaker 3: you just have to like discern that in person.
Speaker 1: You can't just wanting to get you so far. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't like he was like obviously flexing.
Speaker 3: It was just like hey, like these are the times
Speaker 3: that I took pictures of myself because he's just a boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I had like.
Speaker 3: We really hit it off and I was really attracted
Speaker 3: to him physically and all of this stuff, and we
Speaker 3: just started dating. And the first week that we were dating,
Speaker 3: I mean immediately told him off the bat, like I'm
Speaker 3: kind of crazy. Like when I really like someone, I'll
Speaker 3: just tell them like I'm down to like make this exclusive.
Speaker 1: Like if you don't want this to be exclusive.
Speaker 3: Like you will kind of want to throw up and
Speaker 3: like regret your life because like you know, like what
Speaker 3: I could get.
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, like I'm okay with you, but don't
Speaker 1: men like that.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like that's more of a
Speaker 2: turn on than a fucking turn off.
Speaker 3: It depends if they're coocks. I mean I never was
Speaker 3: really into the cooks though.
Speaker 1: I was into men. That's like, no, your mind, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not sharing. So he became So do you go.
Speaker 2: In being to the sense of like that you like
Speaker 2: at this point obviously with your content, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, the sugar baby like before. So it's like,
Speaker 2: but when at those times when you're like vetting those
Speaker 2: things you go and being like that you want to
Speaker 2: them to pay your lifestyle that you want to do,
Speaker 2: or they're just already just giving you that because of
Speaker 2: the type of men that you're going after at this point.
Speaker 1: It's interesting.
Speaker 3: It's more like when you become this like rich guy's
Speaker 3: girl and like you merge lifestyles with him. You are
Speaker 3: merging lifestyle, so you're going to be doing the same
Speaker 3: things that he's doing, and it's like, what do you mean,
Speaker 3: like I'm gonna pay?
Speaker 1: Like no, I'm not, Like you're.
Speaker 3: The one that wants to go to ask and like
Speaker 3: I could just buck off and go to work, like you.
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. So it I make it say
Speaker 1: that's my problem.
Speaker 2: I have a life and I can't just be attached
Speaker 2: to people because I'm like, well I have to work
Speaker 2: or I have this, and I'm like I can't just
Speaker 2: go on your plane.
Speaker 1: Sorry for me.
Speaker 2: I was just like I'm but at that age too,
Speaker 2: it's like you're young and you're not even of age
Speaker 2: to drink, so at this point you're getting to do
Speaker 2: all the things that a twenty one year old, let
Speaker 2: alone a thirty year old at that point too, are
Speaker 2: like you're being exposed to a lot of like height
Speaker 2: end things. Yes, so it becomes very desensitized to you
Speaker 2: because it's not a big thing anymore.
Speaker 1: It's every day. I think it's like changing your underwear. Yes.
Speaker 3: I think it was Eddie Murphy that said this, And
Speaker 3: I feel like this is such a brilliant line that
Speaker 3: has like the most brilliant thing I've ever heard in
Speaker 3: the history of comedy. He goes men can't go back sexually.
Speaker 3: I feel like their booty hole once and they liked it.
Speaker 3: They're gonna want every single girl after that to do
Speaker 3: the same. Women can't go back to lifestyle if she
Speaker 3: dated a guy with a car, and she's gonna want
Speaker 3: a guy with a better car, or at least a car,
Speaker 3: but she's never gonna go back to some guy that
Speaker 3: takes a books fas. So it was kind of like
Speaker 3: that where I like, how many boody holes have you looked?
Speaker 3: Just one?
Speaker 1: It's just the one she wasn't my favorite, Like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're bringing back just one, and like I.
Speaker 3: Didn't have a good time and I made that know
Speaker 3: and I was like, I don't know why, but it
Speaker 3: doesn't smell nice.
Speaker 2: That was after the club, I'm sure Miami eleven days
Speaker 2: you're tagging it.
Speaker 1: Was a superable, too sweaty for me. You retraumatizing me
Speaker 1: very damn it. There you.
Speaker 2: Know it makes it not go away, It makes it
Speaker 2: just easier and manageable.
Speaker 1: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I don't chase it, just swallow it's bitch. Yeah right,
Speaker 2: you call me miss Texas for no reason. It's no
Speaker 2: bigger go home and I haven't gone over, yeah Texes,
Speaker 2: that's right. So you hit it off really well with him,
Speaker 2: you all started being in a relationship. How long did
Speaker 2: it fizzle out to the point where it's like and
Speaker 2: at this point once you get what you're quote unquote
Speaker 2: looking for, because you don't know what you're looking for,
Speaker 2: but you're in this situation, your merged lives, you're doing
Speaker 2: this late and nice lifestyle, Like is it the not
Speaker 2: being fulfilled part is like? Is it romantically?
Speaker 1: Is it? Because do you want a family? At one point?
Speaker 1: Do you just want your lifestyle provided for?
Speaker 2: And what ends does it become where it's like just
Speaker 2: meeting like an ends to a mean and when does
Speaker 2: it become where it's like, Okay, now I have to
Speaker 2: like figure out what I'm doing and obviously what your content.
Speaker 2: Everything you provide isn't completely your life one thousand percent.
Speaker 2: The same way Alexis Texas isn't who I am one
Speaker 2: hundred percent of the time.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: You know, it is a persona, but it is a
Speaker 2: big part of who I am, But it's by other
Speaker 2: character that I get to play and have fucking sex
Speaker 2: with everybody that I want to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a really good way to put
Speaker 3: it on. So to So, this guy, like his family
Speaker 3: had a lot of money too, and like they had
Speaker 3: like a really nice, like old lay looking house in Miami,
Speaker 3: and I always felt kind of inadequate because I know
Speaker 3: that I am capable of making my own money and
Speaker 3: all this stuff.
Speaker 1: But like instead of fighting against the patriarchy, I.
Speaker 3: Kind of like make it work for myself and then
Speaker 3: I blossom in my own way, because there's a million
Speaker 3: and one ways for people to make money without having
Speaker 3: to go to a nine to five, for sure.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you really.
Speaker 3: Love what you're doing, it doesn't feel like you're doing
Speaker 3: a nine to five, but you're still putting in the hours.
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna go sit in a cubicle waste
Speaker 3: his beautiful face on just like customer service calls.
Speaker 1: It's not going to.
Speaker 2: Happen as you shouldn't, and I think that that's awesome.
Speaker 2: Another that goes back to like homage to yourself. I
Speaker 2: was like seeing someone like yourself so young, but and
Speaker 2: I didn't even know your age until you came in here,
Speaker 2: but you just you have a young appearance and like
Speaker 2: you could tell from your content that you are young.
Speaker 1: But it takes to the point with even with that
Speaker 1: being said.
Speaker 2: Is that you you're very confident and you know what
Speaker 2: most thirty something you're able to have got to know
Speaker 2: nowadays then like you know, so it's like you're starting
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: A little bit like before everybody out, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: So, which is what I feel is as a woman,
Speaker 2: and I love you. Know, I can't necessarily say that
Speaker 2: I'm a feminist because I have certain situations where I
Speaker 2: feel like I don't think feminist is completely the right
Speaker 2: word or what the gifts to us, Like I don't
Speaker 2: like I'm not a man hater or any of those things,
Speaker 2: but I'm pro women. So for me is like when
Speaker 2: I see young women like yourself having such a strong
Speaker 2: head on your shoulders and obviously you've been through what
Speaker 2: you've been through at eighteen, and that's really you know,
Speaker 2: it's hard to figure that out by yourself, and you
Speaker 2: aren't here today without having go through struggles. But what
Speaker 2: I love is hearing your story of like how you've
Speaker 2: evolved into like who and why you are so confident
Speaker 2: and can make great decisions at your life at this
Speaker 2: point then maybe at eighteen and nineteen you didn't know.
Speaker 2: So it's like giving the knowledge to the viewers of
Speaker 2: like what that looks like if this is what you
Speaker 2: want to do, Like what like how this you can
Speaker 2: go about and feel confident about it and not have
Speaker 2: a stigma behind it, not have shame behind it, because
Speaker 2: it is your choice, it is your rights or whatever.
Speaker 1: And you're very knowledgeable that you could do a nine
Speaker 1: to five.
Speaker 2: But if you don't want to, then why And the
Speaker 2: thing is nowadays is that the world is set up
Speaker 2: to that we don't have to be succumbed and subject
Speaker 2: to being chained to somebody else's business, that we can
Speaker 2: create our own lanes.
Speaker 1: And that's why I think it's fascinating with your story is.
Speaker 2: Because you built that off of a sugar baby context,
Speaker 2: and that's not even even a scratch of who you are.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean I personally think that shame like
Speaker 3: that was just like constructed by men to keep women
Speaker 3: much lower and beneath them.
Speaker 1: But if you don't fall victim to feeling.
Speaker 3: Shameful for the things that you had to do in
Speaker 3: your life to be where you are now, it doesn't
Speaker 3: fucking matter, you know, And.
Speaker 1: Who gives a fuck.
Speaker 2: I don't think shame is I can't say it's this
Speaker 2: sexualized it as far as men.
Speaker 1: I think women do it to women as well.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, even like watching some of yourself on
Speaker 2: your stories, you still post the real time of like
Speaker 2: the women shaming you because let me show you what
Speaker 2: not to do, Like how do you deal with the
Speaker 2: negative parts of those things?
Speaker 1: I mean, I know how good my life is.
Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I mean I would be fucking slitting
Speaker 3: my wrists too, if, like I was so miserable I
Speaker 3: had to project that onto a woman who is literally
Speaker 3: making people laugh on the side of the street.
Speaker 2: Has there ever been in a situation that in a
Speaker 2: negative context where it's triggered you because of something they've said,
Speaker 2: or have you always been where it's been.
Speaker 1: Like it just hasn't bothered you new rolls off your
Speaker 1: back because I'm from you know, you know, the digital
Speaker 1: world of the things. That's very later on in my career.
Speaker 2: But it's also then there's forums, there's all these things
Speaker 2: that people comment badly about you and me. I never
Speaker 2: fed into it because I was like, they don't even
Speaker 2: know who I am, They just see an image.
Speaker 1: So it never bothered me, but it would bother me.
Speaker 2: In person and when I would do it certain things,
Speaker 2: when people would say things because that's not who I am.
Speaker 2: But for me, I had to have reflection of knowing
Speaker 2: that no one will ever know who I am unless
Speaker 2: you're in my like in my bubble or my circle
Speaker 2: or whatever it is, So why care about those things?
Speaker 2: Being so young, is there anything that's ever like you know,
Speaker 2: made you to a point, And like.
Speaker 1: I think it's the cross between of the twos.
Speaker 2: Like I think in my twenties, I was like, fuck it,
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck what anybody cares. But at
Speaker 2: some level there is a motion behind who you are,
Speaker 2: and you are a person and you have feelings. Has
Speaker 2: anything ever made you feel triggered by what somebody said
Speaker 2: because of what you're either advertising or your message behind it.
Speaker 3: I mean never, uh, never quite, but I definitely do
Speaker 3: remember a time where I was pregnant and I had
Speaker 3: a miscarriage. I announced my miscarriage and then I had
Speaker 3: a wave of men say that, I mean, look at
Speaker 3: your content, like God did that child a favor, like
Speaker 3: you would be at an inadequate mother, and like you
Speaker 3: deserve your child like deserve to die. And that was
Speaker 3: like the only thing that gone to me because things
Speaker 3: about me don't get to me. But it's my unborn child.
Speaker 3: But yeah, doesn't need to be in your mouth. Heartless
Speaker 3: for sure, completely heartless. I was getting like video sent
Speaker 3: to me.
Speaker 1: Of men like cheering in bars that like like.
Speaker 3: Like something, I lost my child. And it wasn't that
Speaker 3: like it got to me where it made me question
Speaker 3: myself forth or my capability to be a good mother
Speaker 3: to another human being because of like I know I can,
Speaker 3: But it was more.
Speaker 4: Like I just couldn't believe that people could be so
Speaker 4: and H mean, yeah, no, for sure, you know, and
Speaker 4: being you know, a sex worker, like being in the
Speaker 4: business for over twenty years, it's like you see on
Speaker 4: certain levels and nothing, I mean there's been things, I mean,
Speaker 4: but I don't let it roll off my back whenever.
Speaker 2: Like I said, like, there's been small things that I've
Speaker 2: had to work on and seeing things people like in
Speaker 2: person say things but it's more reflection.
Speaker 1: On them than you.
Speaker 2: But they're just things like words tart and so it's
Speaker 2: like we are people. It doesn't matter what you say,
Speaker 2: you know, it's like, you know, we still have feelings,
Speaker 2: and it's unfortunate that people think like that, and they
Speaker 2: even cind of like go to like the level of that.
Speaker 1: It's like their own insecurities.
Speaker 2: So it's for me, it's like I go, We'll go
Speaker 2: back to the motto of tweach his own.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't affect you, then why are you worried
Speaker 1: about it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So worried? What do you care? What do you think
Speaker 1: I care? Do you hear what's going on in my
Speaker 1: uterus and my pussy? And nothing? Like? Why?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 3: So?
Speaker 1: Where did you go from there? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I just started like walking around his house and I
Speaker 3: was like, you know who I feel like right now?
Speaker 3: I feel like that woman who was my roommate a
Speaker 3: year ago. At this point I was nineteen. I feel
Speaker 3: like Russian sugar baby.
Speaker 1: I just whipped out my camera this TikTok.
Speaker 3: It was during the pandemic, so people were like on
Speaker 3: TikTok and I'm consuming a lot of that content, but
Speaker 3: I wasn't really posting and I just like whip out
Speaker 3: my phone and I don't know where I pull this
Speaker 3: out of my ass, Like I just start off like going,
Speaker 3: my life is so difficult when my sugar daddy is
Speaker 3: at work, I have to whoop zdulds and start complaining
Speaker 3: about like these very like meager tasks when I should
Speaker 3: just be like at the swab. And then I say, like,
Speaker 3: if men ask you what you study in school, you
Speaker 3: have to say STEM because STAM to me means sugar
Speaker 3: baby training, education of money. We love women in STAM
Speaker 3: and just like bullshit jokes like that. I think one
Speaker 3: of my favorite ones that I said was me and
Speaker 3: ask you what sign you're the most compatible.
Speaker 1: With, you have to say dollar sign.
Speaker 3: And I just posted it and it was like really silly,
Speaker 3: like didn't really mean anything, and I was just like, what,
Speaker 3: I'm sure I got a lot of you twenty five
Speaker 3: million kind of overnight.
Speaker 1: And at this point I went from.
Speaker 3: Having no followers to I jumped to like three hundred
Speaker 3: thousand off of one video.
Speaker 1: And I just kept posting it. Did your sugar daddy
Speaker 1: at this point know that what was happening? So at
Speaker 1: this point, like I.
Speaker 3: Told him, like, look at all of this attention, and
Speaker 3: he was like a finance guy, like managed a lot
Speaker 3: of people's money, and he was like, we.
Speaker 1: Just got to get you monetized. Immediately right off.
Speaker 3: The bag, he was like, stop thinking about like you're
Speaker 3: on a high that people are appreciating, like these jokes
Speaker 3: that you came up with, think about how you can
Speaker 3: make money from this, and then just keep going because
Speaker 3: he the second he saw a business opportunity was like
Speaker 3: I don't give a fuck what you post.
Speaker 1: Fucking make the money.
Speaker 3: Because he went from I went from being a financial
Speaker 3: burden to all of a sudden like we just getting
Speaker 3: really cool opportunities.
Speaker 1: Did he wants some of it? Yeah, of course not
Speaker 1: money per se.
Speaker 3: He towards a specific point in my relationship, he was
Speaker 3: like balls deep into my career and he knew how
Speaker 3: much money I was pulling in, so he would make
Speaker 3: me like pay for certain things, which I would have
Speaker 3: been cool with, but like I'm like, I'm not paying
Speaker 3: half the mortgage of the house that you refuse to
Speaker 3: put in my name, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: I'm not doing that because at the end of the
Speaker 3: day when you want me out, I paid half of
Speaker 3: the fucking mortgage and I leave with nothing, like it's
Speaker 3: not happening.
Speaker 1: Like logical fix like that. But I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course I'll get dinners every so often.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's as soon as it as soon as
Speaker 3: I could, like and I genuinely love someone, like it's part.
Speaker 2: Of me to like love language, and it's not like
Speaker 2: the transactions like only like I'm your girlfriend, you give
Speaker 2: me this, but like I do want this.
Speaker 3: Man that provides and in exchange, like if you want
Speaker 3: a woman that stays at home more and like cleans
Speaker 3: more and cooks more, like I need you to like
Speaker 3: pull in more money if you want those things from me,
Speaker 3: because if not, I'm still in survival mode.
Speaker 1: Did you W'd you say that you were in love
Speaker 1: with him? Yes? I was.
Speaker 3: I thought honestly that I was going to marry him,
Speaker 3: and my career just kept taking off. Like after one month,
Speaker 3: if I had a million followers, two months, two million,
Speaker 3: three months, three million, How is.
Speaker 2: That feeling of knowing that like you basically did it
Speaker 2: not knowing of anybody what he would listen to you,
Speaker 2: having zero followers, and now you're like getting this money
Speaker 2: that you've never had before, that you're doing all this stuff,
Speaker 2: Like how did that make you feel inside?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: I mean it was really addicting in the beginning because
Speaker 3: it was an instant dopamine rush. I'm a little bit
Speaker 3: like on the spectrum in all honesty, so I don't
Speaker 3: really like get dopamine from traditional ways. Like it's like
Speaker 3: it's very hard for me to even complete like basic
Speaker 3: tasks because my ad my add is so hard in
Speaker 3: certain things like that. But like it was such easy
Speaker 3: work for Yeah, I put in time to like organize
Speaker 3: videos and come up with jokes, but like filming on
Speaker 3: TikTok was relatively seamless, posting and then having millions of
Speaker 3: people just like today to you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course there's like an element where do you
Speaker 1: want feedback? Where do you want I mean, like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? What can I do? What next?
Speaker 3: Have you never had a lot of friends or anything
Speaker 3: growing up, and I got heavily bullied, But because it's
Speaker 3: because I had like.
Speaker 1: A lot of issues socializing.
Speaker 3: Like I wasn't someone that was like very like okay
Speaker 3: with making eye contactic. That's stuff that I had to
Speaker 3: work on later. That's why I mentioned like I do
Speaker 3: have autistic traits, was diagnosed with autism.
Speaker 1: Because there's not enough of it.
Speaker 3: But they're like, you definitely do have autisic traits, but
Speaker 3: it's probably because you have like severe ADYD, so you
Speaker 3: do end up on the spectrum somehow. So that was
Speaker 3: really hard to me because my parents that are immigrants,
Speaker 3: like they just like reject the idea of neurodivergence.
Speaker 1: Yeah, They're just like you're just like.
Speaker 3: A start cooking and like maybe you're not like the
Speaker 3: bendst of being social. But that's something that I had
Speaker 3: to learn later on because it's all masking. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: it was like the first time in my life that
Speaker 3: I felt like popular and like cool and like it
Speaker 3: almost makes me emotional because I always tried to like
Speaker 3: be out there and outgoing and then people would be
Speaker 3: like she's a little weird or like I don't get it,
Speaker 3: like she's trying to be funny but it's not hitting
Speaker 3: and it's like, yeah, like I'm sorry. I was trying
Speaker 3: my best, like I didn't understand my brain. But like
Speaker 3: now I'm more comfortable with it. Yeah, so at the
Speaker 3: time it was intoxicating. But then I also had this
Speaker 3: like I was projecting like this like this image, this
Speaker 3: message of self confidence and like knowing that you're expensive,
Speaker 3: but I still had some little being er child, like
Speaker 3: the little girl inside that was looking in the mirror
Speaker 3: and not recognizing what was happening around me.
Speaker 1: It was like imposter syndrome. You had it, but you
Speaker 1: didn't feel it. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like I'm sure, like you can kind
Speaker 3: of relate to this work. You're a Lexis Texas to
Speaker 3: a lot of people, but inside you're also you and
Speaker 3: a person that a lot of people don't know and
Speaker 3: like maybe they claim, like to know your personality based
Speaker 3: off of what you portray online, but they don't understand
Speaker 3: that like a certain aspect.
Speaker 1: Of that is a character.
Speaker 3: It's a character, sure that you portray because that's just business.
Speaker 3: Like that's Hollywood, baby, like that's what we have to do. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it was imposter syndrome wore Like I was like,
Speaker 3: do I.
Speaker 1: Really like deserve this?
Speaker 3: Like people are are like saying, oh my god, my
Speaker 3: sugar baby queen, but like, am I is that me?
Speaker 3: Oh my God, like your're so funny and so this whatever,
Speaker 3: but I'm doing this all in accent that does not
Speaker 3: pertain like to like my actual nationality, like I'm Hispanic,
Speaker 3: And it was like wow, like people the second that
Speaker 3: I had that I sort of portraying a character that
Speaker 3: wasn't myself, I was like, so maybe I am the problem.
Speaker 3: So that was like another thing that I had to
Speaker 3: battle with from the beginning, where I'm like, am I
Speaker 3: worthy of this attention or was this simply because I
Speaker 3: decided to be someone else that I was finally accepted.
Speaker 1: For sure?
Speaker 2: I think that I think you for sharing that, and
Speaker 2: I feel like it is you know, when you become
Speaker 2: a content creator and depending on what kind of content
Speaker 2: your career, obviously mine was like an adult performer, Like
Speaker 2: you know, you don't want to go buy your legal
Speaker 2: name for other reasons and like whatever reasons why you like,
Speaker 2: maybe your character is at a certain level there is alignment,
Speaker 2: but there is also too is you do deserve it
Speaker 2: and it is beneath all of that character and not
Speaker 2: as you.
Speaker 1: I think that with myself I can speak for is
Speaker 1: it was being called something else and it's in the left.
Speaker 2: This is still my real name, So it wasn't far
Speaker 2: from who I was, but I would say Texas isn't
Speaker 2: my last name. But it's like it was easier to
Speaker 2: be who I really was and not and I stopped
Speaker 2: trying to be something I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I am this sexual person.
Speaker 2: So I feel like with you is not that you
Speaker 2: were like made to be a sugar baby, but you
Speaker 2: were made to make some light of a situation and
Speaker 2: make people feel good about it. You're positive you bring
Speaker 2: a light up to a situation that doesn't have to
Speaker 2: be a dark thing. It could be a positive that
Speaker 2: people put such negativity around it. Where it's like and
Speaker 2: those things is when we get older, is like sometimes
Speaker 2: it's like people are like, oh, you're not good enough, Like.
Speaker 1: You are for the right person and the right the
Speaker 1: right audience.
Speaker 2: The right people that kind of like, you know, look
Speaker 2: at the pop of like went from zero to a
Speaker 2: million to thirteen.
Speaker 1: You know a million.
Speaker 2: Is like there's more people that relate to you than
Speaker 2: you realize. And that's why it's like, what is a
Speaker 2: beautiful thing is is when you are so unique is
Speaker 2: having the courage to go in these lanes and like
Speaker 2: really identifying speaking your true is because more people can
Speaker 2: relate to them themselves and speak their own So it's
Speaker 2: like you're an advocate for just being you and that's
Speaker 2: a beautiful thing. It's like you didn't think that you belong,
Speaker 2: but you belong in so many other spaces, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: So it's like you, it's it's just you're funny and
Speaker 1: you belong, you know.
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is it sucks to feel like
Speaker 2: you don't belong because it's there's so many things like
Speaker 2: even if this, like I said, like I think sugar
Speaker 2: baby ness of like your content is a scratch of
Speaker 2: who you are, not when we're very smart and intelligent
Speaker 2: and knowing what you could get in those things, and
Speaker 2: there's a lot of telling things in between that than
Speaker 2: just sing like just being a sugar baby.
Speaker 1: That was so beautifully sad. You're so good at speaking.
Speaker 2: I think for me, it's more the authenticity of Like
Speaker 2: for me is I like this to be a safe
Speaker 2: space for people to be like, you know, for your
Speaker 2: fans to get to know a different side of you,
Speaker 2: and I like ask the questions and make you know
Speaker 2: feel where you're vulnerable enough to share that because you
Speaker 2: know that you are and such, like your content is such,
Speaker 2: you know if it's a sugar baby thing and you
Speaker 2: giving advice and it's great advice. But some people may
Speaker 2: think that maybe you're just always silly, but there is
Speaker 2: a softer side to you. There is an other things
Speaker 2: that like define of how you got here to make
Speaker 2: yourself so funny and relatable to everybody. And I think
Speaker 2: that that's a beautiful thing. So I like to tap
Speaker 2: into those things. Thanks, So let's talk about on the
Speaker 2: flip side of Like we talked about your journey and
Speaker 2: like how you kind of like navigate those things. How
Speaker 2: do you feel about like nowadays, like there's shows like
Speaker 2: Love is Blind and there're on these pod things and like,
Speaker 2: you know, you coming from a not necessarily a different
Speaker 2: or bias, but a different perspective of love and having
Speaker 2: people in your life.
Speaker 1: What do you think and what is your perspective on
Speaker 1: these kind of shows. I would love to talk about
Speaker 1: those one for a second. And have you been keeping up?
Speaker 1: I definitely hate that the reunion is like in a week.
Speaker 2: I don't like that, but you know, we're here and
Speaker 2: I was like I saw something before I came here
Speaker 2: and it was like Netflix, I will pay you twenty
Speaker 2: dollars right now.
Speaker 1: You can send it in the.
Speaker 2: Mail, you can say it in my email, but then
Speaker 2: you saw it now and not on the thirteenth, But.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, yes, Oh so I actually do have
Speaker 3: a bone to pick with things like Love is bline,
Speaker 3: because yet they're still putting conventionally attractive people like no
Speaker 3: one that owned that show was ugly.
Speaker 1: Like there's been some seasons, yeah, but.
Speaker 2: Like there's like it's like I'm like, it depends on
Speaker 2: there's still like able body people.
Speaker 3: Though at the end of the day, I'm like, if
Speaker 3: love is blind, oh put a paraplegic in it.
Speaker 1: Let's say, let's see if love is really blind.
Speaker 2: Let's see this is true love, love is blind. But
Speaker 2: I also think that there's also like probably waivers, stigma,
Speaker 2: standards and requirements and in the regular life right that
Speaker 2: you would be like what you want because that they're
Speaker 2: basing them off of a personality or some kind of computing,
Speaker 2: some kind of science of something of how they're pairing
Speaker 2: them together. Because I feel like a lot of the people.
Speaker 2: What I think is and I have been a fan
Speaker 2: since the beginning, is that it shows taking the surface
Speaker 2: level things of what we would think is love and
Speaker 2: like those things and like knowing the internal part of
Speaker 2: who a person is to a point now you have
Speaker 2: outside you know things, and then you have people who
Speaker 2: just like when we fall in love with potential, like
Speaker 2: maybe the people that are casting the people they think
Speaker 2: that what they could be because of why the answers
Speaker 2: are saying. But just because I'm answering, that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: I will identify with that in real life because maybe
Speaker 2: I haven't done the work, maybe I haven't gone to counseling.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't even know about myself, and maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know what I'm gonna do in real life situations.
Speaker 2: And that's what I think is the problem is is
Speaker 2: why sometimes when they're like there is a lot of
Speaker 2: compatibility if you're willing to do the work, But why
Speaker 2: do a work with a stranger if you don't really
Speaker 2: have to, unless it's of course that much of a
Speaker 2: like person. I'm a love person, I'm a romantic person.
Speaker 2: I mean, I am single. I've done a lot of
Speaker 2: work for me. It's not about being in just a relationship,
Speaker 2: but the relationship. And so it's like I'd rather wait
Speaker 2: my time until I find someone that checks off my boxes.
Speaker 2: If people think that's whatever, then that's a them problem,
Speaker 2: not a me problem. But that's the same thing with
Speaker 2: this is like why I'm hope full, Like, well, what
Speaker 2: would this experiment? I was like, can they have a
Speaker 2: sex work or friendly one? Because I want to be
Speaker 2: a part of the pod it's I.
Speaker 1: Think you would rush love is Blind.
Speaker 2: But the thing is is I would be canceled before
Speaker 2: it was started because I'm sure I would be what
Speaker 2: was it called, and I don't know, like kicked out
Speaker 2: because I'm a sex I lady. It was important because
Speaker 2: it was funny because this season they did a whole thing.
Speaker 2: We're like, oh, you have an only fans. I'm like,
Speaker 2: why do they make it like it's such a bad thing?
Speaker 2: Like uh yeah, and so what that means that I'm
Speaker 2: getting paid, You're welcome.
Speaker 1: I will say that.
Speaker 3: My only thing is like I don't think that actual
Speaker 3: sex work should be so glamorized the way that it
Speaker 3: is in the media, because there's a lot of wide eyed,
Speaker 3: bushy tailed eighteen year olds that have no idea what's
Speaker 3: going to hit them in the face, and they sign
Speaker 3: up because they think that they're immediately going to get
Speaker 3: the wife of their dreams and in reality they're just
Speaker 3: being opened up to like the manipulation from X, Y
Speaker 3: and Z, like outside sources. I just feel like we
Speaker 3: could talk about it, but I want people to be
Speaker 3: aware that it's you're not everyone is going to get
Speaker 3: luck and as long as like you're aware of the risk,
Speaker 3: because there's a lot of girls that just like don't know,
Speaker 3: like what like we have long term consequences is of
Speaker 3: like you like maybe not going so far important or
Speaker 3: maybe like you should like if you're doing it for
Speaker 3: a specific reason, like what is the reason?
Speaker 1: Like think about it.
Speaker 3: I just want always, like the youth to be super
Speaker 3: aware of what they do is permanent.
Speaker 1: If they're okay with that, everything exists off the basis
Speaker 1: of consent, go crazy, do whatever you want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm personally not going to judge you, for sure,
Speaker 3: but I want people to be.
Speaker 1: Aware that it's not always roses in gold, like it's
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: I think that that's within any business, and I think
Speaker 2: that for me, I definitely agree with you, but I
Speaker 2: think that it's one of those things people have to
Speaker 2: really take a heart, you know.
Speaker 1: I think it's something that it does will not go away.
Speaker 1: It's something that will always be there.
Speaker 2: But I think that's also you know, we are at
Speaker 2: an adult level things where it's like with the social media,
Speaker 2: with the you know so many like just media with
Speaker 2: phones and cameras and everything, like anything is like outdoable.
Speaker 2: So it's like one of those things where it's like
Speaker 2: you can't really beat it. So it's like you should know,
Speaker 2: you should you know what I mean. So it's like it's.
Speaker 5: Have interviews for sure, works sure, And that's the beautiful
Speaker 5: thing is like there's good, there's bad, and ugly and
Speaker 5: mainstream and nine to five, like you said, you were
Speaker 5: harassed by you know, some of your bosses bier to
Speaker 5: And it's just being aware.
Speaker 2: Being aware of your surrounding, being aware of what's right
Speaker 2: or wrong, what your boundaries are, and like being like
Speaker 2: just talking about those things. And that that's why I
Speaker 2: think is it's such a good thing for people to
Speaker 2: more that the key you communicate with it, the more
Speaker 2: that it doesn't seem like that's such a bad stigma.
Speaker 1: Like you suld talk you see something, say something, speak
Speaker 1: about it. You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if we gave people like a safe space to
Speaker 3: open up and like just be able to like talk
Speaker 3: about this candidly, the understanding would just goes so far,
Speaker 3: like women would feel more comfortable with talking about it.
Speaker 1: Like the fact that people are so uncomfortable talking about
Speaker 1: things like sex or whatever.
Speaker 3: I think it's so silly, like everyone has sex, Like
Speaker 3: and how are you here home? I hear, so that's
Speaker 3: your favorite position actually, like missionary.
Speaker 2: Missionary only so you can give eye contact. I just
Speaker 2: think she works so hard on it's really intimate.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, it work really hard. It's just really intimate.
Speaker 1: And like also like I'm like a fan of my boobs.
Speaker 1: Just look at these.
Speaker 3: So that's my personal and it feels it feels better
Speaker 3: for me. I have something called a retroverted uterus, so
Speaker 3: it tilts backwards instead of tilting forward, and.
Speaker 1: For some reason, it just like it's more pleasant for me.
Speaker 1: So that's that's just that I like it. But I
Speaker 1: like it so.
Speaker 2: Last thing, what is some advice that you could give
Speaker 2: to anybody out there that maybe is looking for a
Speaker 2: sugar baby situation, just a content creator situation. And it's
Speaker 2: some life advice that you could give any of your
Speaker 2: fans out there watching you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to go find a rich husband, first,
Speaker 3: you need to kind of write down all.
Speaker 1: The qualities of a man that would satisfy you. Writing
Speaker 1: it down is a really good form of making sure
Speaker 1: that you stay accountable to your uncles and don't stay distracted.
Speaker 3: Because I hate when people bring up to me and
Speaker 3: they say, oh, so you want a rich man that'll
Speaker 3: treat you like shit instead of getting a poor one
Speaker 3: that'll treat you like a queen. I was like, who
Speaker 3: said that you have to sacrifice those things what you want?
Speaker 3: Because I could say that my current partner is doing
Speaker 3: amazing and he treats me like a million dollars, like
Speaker 3: he is genuinely so in love with me. I'm in
Speaker 3: love with him, but he just goes the extra mile
Speaker 3: above and beyond, and financially I'm coomfortable. So it's just like,
Speaker 3: why do I have to sacrifice? Like you're just constantly
Speaker 3: telling me that I have to settle for.
Speaker 1: Things that I don't have to settle for shit.
Speaker 3: Now you don't know, you have to understand your worth,
Speaker 3: you have to understand your value. And if that's why
Speaker 3: I have like qualms with people on like the Fresh
Speaker 3: and Fit podcast because it's like these guys that are
Speaker 3: preaching like, oh, like you want a high value man like,
Speaker 3: but you're not a high valueman.
Speaker 1: Like what do you bring to the table? It brings security.
Speaker 3: I decorate the table and wash the dishes on the table,
Speaker 3: and then I step out and go to Pilate's class
Speaker 3: to look good for when you're done with your meeting
Speaker 3: and talking to guys, and then I.
Speaker 1: Give you emotional security. I'll be the mother of your children.
Speaker 1: I'm your partner, I'm your best friend.
Speaker 3: I will do what you need me to do because
Speaker 3: I will function as a compliment to you and you
Speaker 3: will full as a compliment to me.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be like this, like weird, slavery
Speaker 1: binding relationship that people painted to be. It's not like that.
Speaker 1: I'm just a little bit more traditional with my values.
Speaker 3: And just because I vocalize it, people were calling me
Speaker 3: a gold digger and a sugar baby.
Speaker 1: And all this stuff. So why shy away from that
Speaker 1: instead of I just embraced it. I don't know what
Speaker 1: you want, and you know you're worth and here we
Speaker 1: amen to that.
Speaker 2: I love that for you. I appreciate your time. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much for coming on