1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:18,719 I daily show prep with all of the links, become 6 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,359 a patron, go to dpekclendarshow dot com. Make sure you 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:24,920 hit the subscribe button. Get every episode for free right 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,320 to your smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so 9 00:00:27,399 --> 00:00:28,320 much for your support. 10 00:00:29,359 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 2: Now, for you lefties out there, you're probably it and 11 00:00:32,679 --> 00:00:36,079 we appreciate you listening. It is astounding how many folks 12 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:39,759 on the left listen to WBT. It's a diverse audience, 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,880 clearly a lot of viewpoints across the ideological spectrum. You're 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,439 gonna like part of this because what Tom Tillis did. 15 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,119 What the senator, the retiring senator from North Carolina. He's 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:56,640 not just going out quietly into that good night. He's 17 00:00:56,679 --> 00:01:00,880 setting the bridge on fire. He's chopping the house down, 18 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,519 He's scorching the earth. You you name it to Tom Tales, 19 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,280 who I've known for many years, I having known him 20 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,319 since he was a counselman in the town of Cornelius. 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,359 I'm I wish I could say I was overly astounded. 22 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,439 I'm just amazed that someone who reached the pinnacle of 23 00:01:20,519 --> 00:01:25,760 political success, you know, who went from town councilman to 24 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:29,040 North Carolina House to North count of House speaker, who 25 00:01:29,159 --> 00:01:33,280 was known to be pragmatic and measured in many ways 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,159 to the iron consternation of many conservatives, who rises to 27 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,040 the level, you know, defeats k Hagen, goes into the 28 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:44,040 Senate and survives not one term but defensive set in 29 00:01:44,079 --> 00:01:50,319 reelection was which is kind of a ultimate tale of success. 30 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:56,560 He's always been less likely to be the conservative person 31 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,840 out there on on the edge of it. He's Leslie's 32 00:01:59,879 --> 00:02:01,519 not going to be the guy that runs out and 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,879 says we need to cut Texas. He's not the guy 34 00:02:03,879 --> 00:02:06,159 that runs out we need to defend property rights. Now, 35 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,800 he may vote that way, and his voting record is 36 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:12,919 center right, it's not ultimate left. But when he did 37 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,240 the interview with Jake Tapper, and you heard a little 38 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:16,960 bit of that in the news broadcast. You heard a 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,039 little bit of that in the broadcast, I mean the 40 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:23,960 news break there with Brandon. This is where he just 41 00:02:24,719 --> 00:02:27,120 this is a and in tow I'm going to tell you. 42 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:31,599 This isn't inadvertent, this isn't accidental. This is an intentional 43 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:36,719 desire to hurt the president. Whereas Rand Paul I heard 44 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:40,159 an interview with Ran Paul yesterday and Ran Paul, Senator 45 00:02:40,199 --> 00:02:42,759 from Kentucky, the guy the other senator who voted against 46 00:02:42,759 --> 00:02:45,680 the big beautiful bill, the Republican that did. Democrats were 47 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,879 in lockstep. You know, Trump, I don't know, could heal 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,039 cancer and they'd vote against him. So but Rand Paul 49 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,960 had voted against it, largely an ideological stance he has 50 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,840 taken since his time in DC. And he was very 51 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:00,919 friendly to the president. He says, hey, if they go 52 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,000 about cutting spending and cutting debt and deficits, that they 53 00:03:05,039 --> 00:03:07,840 do these things, I'll vote for it every time. And 54 00:03:08,439 --> 00:03:10,159 then he went on to talk about They asked about 55 00:03:10,199 --> 00:03:11,960 his golf handicap, how good he was at golf, and 56 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,960 he talked about being almost as good as the president 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,639 has a ten handed. He's very friendly and amicable to 58 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,800 the president. Tom Tillis is not there is an ideological 59 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,560 there's not even I don't know what Tom Tillis's ideological 60 00:03:23,599 --> 00:03:26,960 rudder is. I think it's if there was a political 61 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,800 ideology called pragmatism, that's it. So whatever gets you across 62 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,960 the finish line. In his words, it's not too far 63 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,960 left or right. He's okay with kind of fair to Middland. 64 00:03:37,479 --> 00:03:39,439 But here's I want to read parts of that interview 65 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,400 before Tom Tillis. This is from CNN, by the way, 66 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:48,039 that's where he chose to throw the president under the bus, 67 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:51,680 where he chose to stake out his brand new So 68 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,400 going into the sunset, I don't know that Democrats are 69 00:03:54,439 --> 00:03:57,439 not going to hail him. The Republicans certainly. I don't 70 00:03:57,479 --> 00:04:00,879 know where he wants to be and retire, you know 71 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:04,240 much revile. I don't know, there's no I don't get it. 72 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,840 But before he bucked his own party and voted against 73 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:10,360 Trump's agenda last week, he warned, he warned the president 74 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,759 how its toxic political ripple effect could wipe out Congress. 75 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,879 Now we'll see if Tillis's now. Tillis is not looking 76 00:04:17,879 --> 00:04:20,439 at the maps of Texas, he's not looking at the 77 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,959 maps of Florida. He's not looking at a lot of 78 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,120 the maps that are out there that actually do favor 79 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:28,839 of the Republicans. I don't think it'll be a red wave, 80 00:04:28,879 --> 00:04:30,480 but I think the Republicans have a better than even 81 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,600 chance if the President doesn't stumble on this Epstein stuff, 82 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,920 which we will talk about more. As I told the President, 83 00:04:36,959 --> 00:04:39,160 he said, if we don't get this right, he's probably 84 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:41,279 going to have two of the most miserable years of 85 00:04:41,319 --> 00:04:44,680 his life if Democrats take the gavel in the House. 86 00:04:45,319 --> 00:04:47,199 I would say the first term were some of the 87 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,040 most miserable years. And the four years of Biden dragging 88 00:04:50,079 --> 00:04:52,759 him through court and getting him mugshots and trumping up 89 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:55,759 charges against Trump. I think those were pretty miserable years. 90 00:04:56,319 --> 00:04:59,959 Two years of a lame duck presidency, you know, stay 91 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,480 making out the ground and preparing the next person to 92 00:05:02,519 --> 00:05:04,600 be president. I don't think he'll be that terrible. But 93 00:05:04,639 --> 00:05:07,439 Tom Tillis is Tom Tillis. I'm trying to avoid that. 94 00:05:07,439 --> 00:05:10,839 In other words, but for me, the president would be fine. 95 00:05:12,199 --> 00:05:14,800 So he was with a Jake Tapper. I told the President. 96 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:16,759 This is the second time he said I told the president. 97 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,560 The first was I told the President, we don't get 98 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,920 it right. I told the President, I really do believe 99 00:05:21,519 --> 00:05:25,680 this could be his Obamacare, talking about the big beautiful bill. Now, 100 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:29,959 what Tillis omits to discuss is there's a reconciliation that's 101 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,639 likely to take place in the fall, and another one 102 00:05:31,639 --> 00:05:33,040 in the spring. So it's gonna be a lot of 103 00:05:33,079 --> 00:05:37,519 dialing in and affirming these things, Tillis said. The sweeping 104 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,920 tax and spending cuts without Tillis's but I think it's 105 00:05:40,959 --> 00:05:46,279 politically just devastating. The plane spoken, according to I don't 106 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,480 know that the CNN would ever call any Republican plane spoken, 107 00:05:49,519 --> 00:05:51,519 But now that you're going after Trump, he is. He's 108 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,560 the guy the plane spoke in North Carolina. He was 109 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,079 clear about who he blames for the details of Trump's 110 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:01,560 domestic policy law, repeatedly repeatedly calling out unnamed White House 111 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,720 staffers that he said failed to grasp the real life 112 00:06:04,759 --> 00:06:08,839 consequences of the new policy, particularly the spending cuts to Medicaid. 113 00:06:08,879 --> 00:06:11,800 By the way, I looked at the spending cuts to Medicaid. 114 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,079 So if they're not spending cuts, the cuts in the 115 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,920 rate of growth. Till Us didn't say that, but that's 116 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:21,240 what they are. So Medicaid will continue to expand. It's 117 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:26,360 just it's this apologist way of being which provides healthcare 118 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,199 to millions of low income Americans. Those adviser, he said, 119 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:32,600 are the biggest risks of Trump's legacy that we declined 120 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:35,240 to name anybody. I don't have a problem with Trump. 121 00:06:35,439 --> 00:06:36,920 I got a problem with some of the people I 122 00:06:36,959 --> 00:06:40,160 consider to be amateurs advising him now, to be fair, 123 00:06:40,199 --> 00:06:43,879 some of the most experienced people in the country, both 124 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,360 in business and policy or advisors. So I wish he 125 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,879 would name them. I think they're all bad. I won't 126 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,079 name who they are. I want to make it very 127 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:55,439 clear to them when you act like the president when 128 00:06:55,439 --> 00:06:57,680 he's out of the room, you don't impress me. Till listen, now, 129 00:06:57,959 --> 00:07:01,519 the irony of that that, the irony of what he 130 00:07:01,519 --> 00:07:04,720 says there is not lost on me. Because we had 131 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:09,480 a president who was elected depending on your perspective, Biden, 132 00:07:10,079 --> 00:07:12,360 who we don't know who was in charge. We know 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,720 the auto pen was used, meaning he wasn't the person 134 00:07:14,759 --> 00:07:17,199 that sided a machine did. We do not know who 135 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,959 was conducting policy. We do not know who was appointing judges. 136 00:07:21,079 --> 00:07:23,680 We do not know. Tillis doesn't seem to be bothered 137 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:28,920 by that. Imagine till Us saying this about Biden. I 138 00:07:29,079 --> 00:07:32,240 consider to be amateurs around Biden, and I want to 139 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:34,680 make it very clear to the people around Biden when 140 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,199 you act like the president when he's out of the room, 141 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:41,639 you don't impress me. Wait, Biden's advisors were acting like 142 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,240 the president when he was in the room. Doesn't seem 143 00:07:45,279 --> 00:07:48,680 to bother till Us one bit, Not one bit. Is 144 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,959 till Us incensed that we don't know who the acting 145 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,160 president was? But I digress. The Senator may not be 146 00:07:55,279 --> 00:07:57,639 quiet for long. I don't think he's being quiet at all. 147 00:07:57,959 --> 00:08:00,319 Asked about how he plans to spend his remaining months 148 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:04,600 in office, Tilly said he would demand accountability from Trump's advisors. 149 00:08:04,879 --> 00:08:07,560 I'm going to hold these people accountable who I think 150 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,480 are shielding him, who do not understand the legislative process, 151 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,160 certainly do not understand the executive and they're the biggest risk. 152 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,399 So tell us what's going out. I mean, he's basically 153 00:08:18,519 --> 00:08:24,120 declared war on Team Trump. It is not. He said 154 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:28,319 he regretted voting for Pete. Hegseth big mistake. And then 155 00:08:28,439 --> 00:08:30,839 he says again his famous phrase, in this entire year, 156 00:08:30,879 --> 00:08:32,799 I told the president, I told the president. The third 157 00:08:32,799 --> 00:08:35,440 time he says it, I told the President. In another text, 158 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:38,799 now's the time to start looking for my replacement, because 159 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:40,720 I don't want to deal with that kind of bs 160 00:08:42,879 --> 00:08:45,360 I he didn't say bs I have to say it, 161 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,320 so he said, he actually said the word. So this 162 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:55,799 is just scorched earth Pete. Hegseth find the replacement. He's 163 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:59,159 not gonna he's not gonna be helping at all. He's 164 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,879 not involved in the process. He doesn't flip and care. 165 00:09:02,039 --> 00:09:04,679 He is checked out. He is angry, he is better. 166 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,000 This is a classless way to go out, and it's 167 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,799 a shame. Like I said, I've known Tom personally. I 168 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:17,080 don't understand this. 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In fact, I was 201 00:11:04,159 --> 00:11:08,080 hosting I think this very show maybe last Christmas until 202 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,200 it's called in He called in to WBT, and you know, 203 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,639 we had a good interview. We have substantive disagreements. They're 204 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:20,080 not personal, they are disagreements. Now, what I find particularly 205 00:11:20,279 --> 00:11:24,399 damning about what has occurred here is that he's had 206 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:27,480 You know, you could tell if you're really paying attention. 207 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,159 And in my world, I tend to pay attention. I 208 00:11:30,159 --> 00:11:34,639 pay attention to subtleties, the way people word things. Now, 209 00:11:34,639 --> 00:11:39,039 I've always been fascinated with the articulation of thoughts. You know, 210 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,840 you saw this one of the most vivid examples that 211 00:11:41,919 --> 00:11:45,360 you if you're older than I don't know forty One 212 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:51,200 of the most vivid examples of wordplay was Bill Clinton's 213 00:11:51,279 --> 00:11:54,879 interview with the Special Counsel Ken Starr on the Monica 214 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,720 Lewinsky scandal, when he said things like, it depends on 215 00:11:57,759 --> 00:12:00,840 what your definition of the word is is you know, 216 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:03,879 when you get to I was fascinated by a parsing 217 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:05,960 of words. And we've seen this play out many many 218 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,399 times since, But the way Tillis would parse his words 219 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:15,200 around certain policy positions, and you could tell there was 220 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,639 a bit of angst related to his perceptions about Trump. 221 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,159 You know, Trump's not his cup of tea. And you know, 222 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:26,159 Tillis is very measured and I have seen and to 223 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,360 his credit, when he was in the North Carolina House 224 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,080 and his House speaker, there were numerous occasions where I 225 00:12:31,159 --> 00:12:34,799 knew that he had a disagreement with a given policy 226 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,480 that was going to be brought before the House and 227 00:12:36,519 --> 00:12:39,799 he was likely to vote against it, but to his credit, 228 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,159 he brought it forth and these things would pass without him, 229 00:12:43,799 --> 00:12:47,279 so we anybody paying attention to his politics, and that 230 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,200 is why Tillis's most serious political threat was always from 231 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,759 the political right, not from the Democrats, because there were 232 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,919 enough moderates that if Tillis survived a primary, he was 233 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,480 always going to survive the general because the left is 234 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,120 always going to put somebody up that's more left than 235 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,639 he is, and the political right's not going to break 236 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,120 from him. They may not be enthused he'll get fewer 237 00:13:09,159 --> 00:13:13,120 votes than like a Trump or a true conservative. But 238 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,519 he's going to win. And that's what his team, the 239 00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:18,679 people who supported him, that's what they knew. He just 240 00:13:18,759 --> 00:13:23,480 had to survive a Republican primary. Through the course of 241 00:13:23,519 --> 00:13:27,759 the hegseeth nomination process and some other issues. It was 242 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:32,320 looking back, it was pretty clear that Tillis was going 243 00:13:32,399 --> 00:13:38,360 to be facing a potentially strong candidate from the political 244 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,279 right in North Carolina, a Laura Trump. I doubt of 245 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,240 Michael Wattley, but certainly you know a Pat Harrigan that's 246 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,879 very extremely well funded, something of that. Ilk I wasn't 247 00:13:48,879 --> 00:13:51,399 worried about. Roy Cooper would not have probably gotten in 248 00:13:51,399 --> 00:13:53,320 the race if it was not an open seat. He's 249 00:13:53,399 --> 00:13:57,000 not prone to unless he thought Tillis was truly damaged. 250 00:13:57,399 --> 00:14:00,159 But then when Tillis goes scorch to Earth and he 251 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:02,320 does an interview with Jake Tappern CNN, he could have 252 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:05,480 chosen to go anywhere and give that interview. He chose that. 253 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:09,279 That's intentional the words he used. He wants to be 254 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:14,759 seen as as an intellectual talking almost down to the president, 255 00:14:14,879 --> 00:14:17,200 or maybe as an equal. I don't know. I told 256 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,240 the President. He said it three times at least in 257 00:14:19,279 --> 00:14:24,480 the interview, But the fact that he announced he was 258 00:14:24,519 --> 00:14:28,159 not running and then went scorched to earth belies a 259 00:14:28,159 --> 00:14:31,639 bit of political cowardice. He could have said those things 260 00:14:31,679 --> 00:14:33,600 prior to saying he was not going to run again, 261 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:36,360 but he said it after. And what that means if 262 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,919 you say it after you've decided not to run, that 263 00:14:39,039 --> 00:14:43,519 means that you were lying or misrepresenting or not telling 264 00:14:43,559 --> 00:14:47,120 the truth for the past since Trump got elected, or 265 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,919 before or during the campaign. During the election, that's the 266 00:14:51,039 --> 00:14:55,279 problem with Tillis is he's being very honest. I'll give 267 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,679 him that, very honest, But he waited until after, which 268 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,519 meant he wasn't being on honest before deciding not to run. 269 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,799 He wasn't telling the public his honest feelings. One thing 270 00:15:07,799 --> 00:15:10,159 about Ran Paul, disagree with him or not, he's consistent. 271 00:15:10,399 --> 00:15:13,279 He has been. One thing about the President remarkably consistent 272 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:16,840 on the border, on taxes, on NATO, on tariffs, on DEI, 273 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,200 on his belief in America, the American people, his belief 274 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,919 in himself. Consistent. And that's something Tillis can't say. He 275 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:26,840 hasn't been. And that's why when there's a vote, you 276 00:15:26,879 --> 00:15:28,879 have to guess where's till It's going to be. I 277 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:32,159 don't know. I don't know. That's a problem. I know 278 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,639 Ted Bud's got to be going. Oh man, I can't 279 00:15:34,639 --> 00:15:36,960 believe this is going on. I'm shocked at the media 280 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,720 hasn't run to Ted DT. So what do you think about? 281 00:15:38,759 --> 00:15:42,120 What tell us that the golden opportunity to go after Republicans? 282 00:15:42,399 --> 00:15:44,519 But Tillis went scortched earth. By the way, if you 283 00:15:44,559 --> 00:15:46,200 want to get in on this, it's seven O four 284 00:15:46,399 --> 00:15:49,240 five seven oh eleven ten. It's also the text lines, 285 00:15:49,279 --> 00:15:52,759 the WBT text line driven by Liberty Buick GMC, same 286 00:15:52,799 --> 00:15:55,840 phone number. So if you have a comment and this, 287 00:15:56,039 --> 00:15:58,360 you know, we get to look at it. Go okay, 288 00:15:58,559 --> 00:16:01,360 you want to go with that. So but when I 289 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:02,799 got a call, I got a call in the break 290 00:16:03,159 --> 00:16:05,679 from someone who's been a long time Tillis supporter, who 291 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,840 was very involved in the political mechanizations and intrigue of 292 00:16:09,879 --> 00:16:13,559 this state's right leaning politics. I would say the individual 293 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,600 I've always accused them of being somewhat of a moderate, 294 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:18,679 but they're in GOP politics and they've been tell us 295 00:16:18,759 --> 00:16:21,799 long and strong since say even he didn't understand he 296 00:16:21,919 --> 00:16:26,320 was trying to find a way, a nuanced way of saying, 297 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:31,960 you know, Tillis really meant, but he couldn't. He tried, 298 00:16:32,559 --> 00:16:36,159 and so instead of scorched earth with Tillis, he kind 299 00:16:36,159 --> 00:16:39,240 of backed up and just said, you know, I don't understand. 300 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,879 I don't understand. And when a lot of when people 301 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:45,519 say they don't understand it at that level of politics, 302 00:16:45,639 --> 00:16:48,720 it's that they don't want to believe. It's thee euphemism 303 00:16:48,759 --> 00:16:51,440 for I don't want to believe what I heard with 304 00:16:51,559 --> 00:16:54,799 my own ears and saw with my own eyes, So 305 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,759 I don't understand. Yeah, it's kind of like if you were, 306 00:16:58,879 --> 00:17:02,440 you know, to see a tesla in eighteen sixty, you 307 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,640 would see it, but you wouldn't understand. It wouldn't make 308 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:10,759 any sense. So kind of anachartistic anyway, He's out of space, 309 00:17:10,759 --> 00:17:12,559 out of time, and it just doesn't make any sense. 310 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:17,039 So till Us has essentially committed political Harry Carey here 311 00:17:17,799 --> 00:17:21,559 and needs have survived the next eighteen months, and it 312 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:24,880 will be a problematic vote for the president for any 313 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,559 chance in an agenda. I'd be surprised if Tillis is 314 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,279 I don't know where his vote's going to be for 315 00:17:30,319 --> 00:17:32,000 the next year. And a half. He said he's going 316 00:17:32,079 --> 00:17:34,599 to go after Trump's staff. That's what he said. His 317 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,880 goal is is to go after Trump's staff, to name 318 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:39,000 names and go after me. He called him a bunch 319 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:43,559 of amateurs. It's just a sad end to an otherwise 320 00:17:43,559 --> 00:17:48,279 stellar career that goes from you know, paperboy to town 321 00:17:48,319 --> 00:17:51,160 councilman to I mean, successful business guy all the way 322 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:52,759 up to us s enator. And this is how he 323 00:17:52,839 --> 00:17:56,079 chooses to burn the house down. Don't understand it all right? 324 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this show, you know I try 325 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,680 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 326 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,839 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 327 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:06,079 say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because 328 00:18:06,079 --> 00:18:08,799 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 329 00:18:08,799 --> 00:18:12,119 been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen 341 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,960 percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to 342 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,440 get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not 343 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,480 only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground News 344 00:18:57,519 --> 00:18:59,960 as they make the media landscape more transparent. 345 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 2: Now, you know, when we went to the break, we 346 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,200 were talking about Tilli's This Sports Earth. And by the way, 347 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,839 former Representative Larry Pittman has burned up my phone a 348 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,359 few times. He's you know, he was no big fan 349 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,119 of Tillis, certainly, and he's very has been concerned about 350 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,279 this for a long time. So he said, do you 351 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,519 share it on air if you want so we'll see 352 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,640 now with us. So we do have a call. I 353 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:27,319 believe Jake if I got that right, Jake, Welcome to 354 00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:29,799 the show. How are you today? Jay? I'm sorry, Jake, 355 00:19:29,839 --> 00:19:35,240 how are you today? I am fantastic, Thank you for calling. Yeah, 356 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,680 go ahead, yeah, yes, sir. 357 00:19:38,799 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: I kind of go back with him a long time ago, 358 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,640 back in early two thousands, a new high school opened 359 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,359 up in Undersville that had a lot of Lake parents 360 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:54,119 in all the area there, and he made an issue 361 00:19:54,279 --> 00:19:57,839 at the high school and had a big meeting. And 362 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:02,920 this is before he got into politics, okay, and some 363 00:20:03,079 --> 00:20:06,000 parents from the Lake were complaining about the new principal 364 00:20:06,039 --> 00:20:08,599 there on new high school. They had some pretty pretty 365 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,640 strict discipline policies, which you know, if we had him today, 366 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,519 we wouldn't have problems we have. But he set up 367 00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:18,359 a meeting at one of the town halls I can't 368 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,559 remember if it was Huntersville at Cornelias and had everybody 369 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,720 come and I went to it just to see what 370 00:20:23,799 --> 00:20:30,319 was going on, and he really shamed the principal there 371 00:20:31,559 --> 00:20:35,759 and got him into trouble. And I talked to a 372 00:20:35,759 --> 00:20:37,839 lot of faculty members and other parents and we were 373 00:20:37,839 --> 00:20:41,440 happy with that principal. And after the meeting, we were 374 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:45,400 joking that this guy's running for governor and he was 375 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,640 just looking for an issue to get his name out there. 376 00:20:48,319 --> 00:20:53,279 And I've watched this whole career since that day, and 377 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:58,039 my son actually had classes with his kids. And I 378 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,599 voted for him twice, but I'd never vote for him again. 379 00:21:01,319 --> 00:21:03,440 I didn't vote for I voted for him the last 380 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:05,960 time only because I wanted to see a Republican up there. 381 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:10,240 But I never really considered him a Republican. And what 382 00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:13,440 he's doing now is disgrace to the party. It's a 383 00:21:13,519 --> 00:21:16,839 disgrace to him. But you know what, I've seen it 384 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,440 before because he made an issue about it, something that 385 00:21:19,599 --> 00:21:21,400 he should have kept his nose out of. 386 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,559 Speaker 2: You know, Jay, I think a lot of people on 387 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,680 the right get I don't know. You know. In fact, 388 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,720 I've got you know, supporters of him that are reaching 389 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:35,599 out on Facebook and texting right now even as you're 390 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,079 on air with me, and they're saying, and there's two 391 00:21:38,079 --> 00:21:39,799 things that are coming out, and I wish I had 392 00:21:39,799 --> 00:21:41,720 come up with one of them, but I didn't. They said, 393 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,440 I don't see how it helps him. How does anything 394 00:21:44,519 --> 00:21:47,640 that he's doing right now help him? What I mean, 395 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,200 does he does he switch parties? Even Mike Pence, even 396 00:21:51,319 --> 00:21:53,559 Mike Pence, who is certainly not the biggest fan of 397 00:21:53,559 --> 00:21:56,400 Donald Trump, said that Tillis went too far. I mean, 398 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,599 if Mike Pence says you went too far, I don't know. 399 00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:01,440 I don't know that he thinks that is he going 400 00:22:01,519 --> 00:22:04,079 to become a Democrat, and is that because I don't 401 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,559 know where where he sees himself and how this elevates 402 00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:10,160 him or even helps him in any way. 403 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: So, but Jay, I appreciate I saw as he go 404 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,279 years ago and it hasn't changed. 405 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:19,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a there's a humor, said Jay. I appreciate 406 00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:21,960 the call man, thanks for being a part of the program. 407 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,400 There's certainly a huge and I appreciate Jay's call. Appreciate 408 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,480 the folks reading out, reaching out a text and Facebook 409 00:22:28,519 --> 00:22:31,400 and Twitter chat. Adams perspective on Twitter, if you happen 410 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,920 to be out there, But you know, does he become 411 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,240 The other sentiment is kind of does he become the 412 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,079 Adam Kinsinger? Does he become the Nicks? Liz Cheney. I mean, 413 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:46,559 this all of a sudden one and eighty degree rebuke 414 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,000 is just unfathomable that, you know, there are classy ways 415 00:22:53,039 --> 00:22:55,960 to do this, there are you know, he could have 416 00:22:56,039 --> 00:22:59,960 been if he had been principled all along, like Rand Paul. 417 00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:03,119 I don't think Rand Paul's relationship with the president. Certainly 418 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,039 a lot of people angry about his vote, but it's 419 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,920 he's been consistent on things that he felt would add 420 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,559 to the debt, and so he and the President still 421 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:14,200 get along. It's not that he took a new way 422 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,160 of looking at things. Tillis was that was out of 423 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:22,880 left field. What Tillis did and those things that he said, now, 424 00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:29,960 I don't don't get Even one of his supporters just 425 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,720 wrote me says, he's talking about how what Tillis said. 426 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,319 Tell Us said something really strange. He said, I don't 427 00:23:34,319 --> 00:23:35,960 have a problem with President Trump. I got a problem 428 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,920 with some of the people I considered to be amateurs. 429 00:23:38,079 --> 00:23:40,279 And I want to make it clear to them when 430 00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:42,160 you act like the President when he's out of the room, 431 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,640 you don't impress me. Now, this is the same senator 432 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,279 that had no problem with you know, team Auto Pen 433 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,640 and hasn't called for multiple investigations when we don't even 434 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,359 know who's running things. But he says that, And so 435 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,880 even the supporter of Tillis has wrote, a strong supporter, 436 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,759 I might add it's been very close to him, said 437 00:23:58,759 --> 00:24:01,480 what an arrogant statement. It totally makes Trump look like 438 00:24:01,519 --> 00:24:06,440 a doorstop. It does. It is just an arrogant And 439 00:24:06,519 --> 00:24:09,799 this is this is the market from WinCE Tilli's His 440 00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:14,000 political career was birthed. I don't know. I mean, and 441 00:24:14,519 --> 00:24:15,799 you know, if he wanted to be a part of 442 00:24:15,799 --> 00:24:18,200 the broadcast, I'll give him more more than a fair interview. 443 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,720 I haven't reached out to his office, Mike, I don't 444 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,359 know right now. I just I don't know. It's just 445 00:24:24,759 --> 00:24:28,640 unbelievable that Tillis decided to go this route. I mean, 446 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,319 it's one thing if he had gone on I mean, 447 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,319 he went on CNN with Jake Tapper and and just 448 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,839 scorched earth. I'm gonna I'm gonna spend my last So 449 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,440 he's not going to spend his last eighteen months representing 450 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,119 North Carolina, or maybe he sees that as reund not 451 00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:46,160 really trying to support the American people, although he what 452 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,039 he sees is his attack on the president is his 453 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,599 way of representing the citizens of North Carolina and the 454 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:58,440 country to attack Trump's people. So there's no adja. So 455 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,880 what he's not saying is I have an agenda for 456 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,599 the people of North Calina. By the way, North Counta 457 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,160 just named number one place to do business thanks to 458 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,359 many of the policies that happened when Tillis was in 459 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,519 office and many that have happened subsequent to that. It's 460 00:25:09,559 --> 00:25:12,240 not really an executive branch. The executive branch in North Carolina, 461 00:25:12,319 --> 00:25:14,000 the governor gets to go around and cut ribbons and 462 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,599 make nice speeches, but largely has been irrelevant in making 463 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,000 that policy. But that's a separate issue. You know. 464 00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:21,599 Speaker 1: Stories are powerful. They help us make sense of things, 465 00:25:21,599 --> 00:25:25,039 to understand experiences. Stories connect us to the people of 466 00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:28,400 our past while transcending generations. 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Here's what 485 00:26:28,079 --> 00:26:30,880 I think happened, and it makes sense in this context. 486 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:36,000 You know, if you just politics is the kind of 487 00:26:36,039 --> 00:26:39,279 the study of being paranoid. You know, success in politics 488 00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:42,960 belongs to the paranoid. And I think that till Us 489 00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:47,519 was not being honest with himself for the past two three, 490 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,519 six years. I don't know, and that's just it ultimately 491 00:26:50,519 --> 00:26:52,200 got too much for him, you know, I think he 492 00:26:52,319 --> 00:26:54,279 just snapped. I mean when you saw the bolo on 493 00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:56,200 the floor of the Senate, and that's when he went 494 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,559 scorch to earth. And ever since he voted against the 495 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:01,440 Big Beautiful Bill, he's gone scortch to earth. I don't 496 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,559 know where this ends up. It's a detachment. Now, there 497 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,720 was a caller in the break that or text, I 498 00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:08,920 don't know. It's one of the two communicated with the show, 499 00:27:09,799 --> 00:27:12,240 and he was talking about the Tillis And this will 500 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,519 seem like an attack, it's not. I think the individual 501 00:27:14,599 --> 00:27:16,480 was talking about the Tillis hadn't been in North Carolina 502 00:27:16,559 --> 00:27:19,440 very long before he ran for office, and there's a 503 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,000 lot of truth to that. His background's actually quite interesting 504 00:27:22,039 --> 00:27:25,680 because he was born in Jacksonville, Florida. He literally moved 505 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,160 like I don't know, twenty times. You know, he's been 506 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,319 in many places. And he's actually got two brothers that 507 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:38,720 are also named Tom Tillis along with his father. His 508 00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:41,519 father's named Thomas Tillis. He's got two brothers named Tom Tillis, 509 00:27:41,519 --> 00:27:45,880 which is interesting. There's Thomas Rick Tillis and Thomas Still anyway, 510 00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:49,599 that's irrelevant. But he's, you know, highly educated, and he 511 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,279 ended up moving to North Carolina in nineteen ninety eight 512 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,039 over in Cornelis. He runs for office shortly thereafter, so 513 00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,799 about less than five years he gets into two thousand 514 00:28:00,799 --> 00:28:03,240 and two, so about four years he's involved in politics 515 00:28:03,279 --> 00:28:06,720 and goes from there to being I mean, he became 516 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,400 a very relevant person in North Counta politics. If you 517 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,400 move here, and if you were to go many places 518 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,440 in North Kunina, you would be shocked at how many 519 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,359 people on town boards and county commissions are relative newcomers 520 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,759 to North Carolina. Now we are kind of an immigrant state, 521 00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:24,319 for lack of a better word with respect to other states. 522 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,920 A lot of folks well, also out of the country too, 523 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,920 but a lot of folks that move here, especially along 524 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:30,720 the coast. If you go to the coast, you look 525 00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,319 at the communities that I'm very, very familiar with now, 526 00:28:33,599 --> 00:28:35,400 and you'll find communities where the people that are on 527 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,119 the boards, that are on the town boards have been 528 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,640 there two years, less than two years, barely got their 529 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,920 registrations in time to run for office, and boom populated 530 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:50,319 and becoming devout lefties more and more. So, I'm fascinated 531 00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:53,480 by the Tillis scenario because it is absolutely and well, 532 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,000 here's where I'm having trouble getting it. I get that 533 00:28:57,039 --> 00:29:00,640 he doesn't like Trump. I mean, I didn't you know this. Cheney, 534 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:04,519 Adam Kinsinger, they took a huge gamble in going after 535 00:29:04,519 --> 00:29:08,200 the president. They thought it was kind of a passing phase. 536 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:14,440 They missed. They politically miscalculated. Cheney was horrible. They miscalculated 537 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,599 the success of Trump and changing the party. So Kensinger 538 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,559 and Cheney thought, oh, well, we'll be able to rebuild 539 00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,200 a Republican Party in a post Trumpian world. Remember they 540 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,039 the Democrats put them on the committee attacking Trump because 541 00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:28,160 they knew they hated that those two hated Trump. They 542 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:34,319 did not allow the then minority leader to select anybody 543 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,200 for the positions on that committee. So the Democrats, Nancy 544 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,440 Pelosian company selected people that hated Trump, and Cheney and 545 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:45,079 Kensinger were the two folks. And so now Tillis has 546 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,240 kind of replaced him as the Republican, the Trump hating Republican. 547 00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:51,039 So the Democrats will probably love him to a certain extent, 548 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:53,000 but they can't reconcile him that with this record in 549 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:56,319 North Carolina. So we'll see. I just don't understand why 550 00:29:56,359 --> 00:29:58,400 he chose this time to go scorts to Earth. I mean, 551 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,200 we're heading into Labor Day, it's you know, next year's 552 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,000 elections coming up. Is he is his goal to hurt 553 00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,920 the reelection? I don't know for others, is his goal 554 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,839 to hurt the Republican majority. He says it's to hurt 555 00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:12,519 the president. But the only real way to hurt the 556 00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:15,039 president is to make sure he doesn't have majorities to 557 00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,400 work with. That would be the way to hurt him. 558 00:30:18,599 --> 00:30:21,039 It's not like he accused him of scandalous behavior, accused 559 00:30:21,079 --> 00:30:22,960 his sta anyway. I don't want to get into it 560 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:24,480 too far. But you're welcome to be a part of 561 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,920 the conversation should you so desire to be so. I 562 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,200 don't get it. Even as supporters are kind out there, 563 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,400 they're left defenseless. He didn't give them a lot of 564 00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:35,680 room to go. Now, Having said that, what I wanted 565 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:41,039 to talk about today was my love of the political left, 566 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,160 would why would I say something I love because I 567 00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:51,000 love the fact that their new spokespeople are absolute, absolute wackads. 568 00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:54,440 I love that about them. I think it's a beautiful day. 569 00:30:54,839 --> 00:30:57,559 I think when AOC opens her mouth and tries to 570 00:30:57,599 --> 00:31:01,319 explain the world in a philosophical con concept, that there's 571 00:31:01,319 --> 00:31:04,880 a plethora of bad things that come out of her mouth. 572 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:10,640 I mean it's it is a cacophony of mindless gobbledegook 573 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,400 that comes pouring out. It makes Kamala's word salads, I 574 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,119 don't know, look amateurish by comparison. When I hear Bernie 575 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,759 Sanders speak about policy, I love it. I love when 576 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:25,839 the political One of my favorites as of late is 577 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:31,640 yet Jasmine Crockett. She's from Texas, and I love that 578 00:31:31,799 --> 00:31:36,799 microphones find a way to allow her to speak, and 579 00:31:36,839 --> 00:31:40,240 that she's allowed to speak and given representation. She represents 580 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,440 her constituents in Texas and she and I want I 581 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,640 would love for Jasmine Crockett to be the face of 582 00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,440 the party. You know, Democrats. You say, I'm glad Trump's 583 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,319 the face and public PODi y'all, they're toasted. I'm like, Okay, 584 00:31:52,599 --> 00:31:56,799 not so much. But Crockett, you know, I tell you what, 585 00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:58,319 I want to talk about this more so, it's definitely 586 00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:00,000 gonna be on the other side of the break because 587 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:04,640 I'm trying to search for other than being anti Trump. 588 00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,759 What is the Democrats? What is their vision? I told 589 00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:10,599 you one of the things about Trump that I do like, 590 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,880 whether you like him personally, is very different than liking 591 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,559 his policies. On the border, he told you what he 592 00:32:16,599 --> 00:32:18,359 was going to do, he's been doing and he's executing that. 593 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:19,880 On taxes, he told you what he's going to do. 594 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,720 He's doing that. He's continuing to go down the path 595 00:32:22,759 --> 00:32:26,039 on NATO, They're going to pay their fair share on tariffs. Hey, 596 00:32:26,039 --> 00:32:28,759 it's a tool by which we negotiate better trade deals 597 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,319 or DEI don't like it. Don't like you know, women 598 00:32:32,359 --> 00:32:35,799 and men's or men and women's sports and then I 599 00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:38,039 look at where the Democrats find themselves. Are they giving 600 00:32:38,119 --> 00:32:41,400 you an alternate vision for the country, because you know, 601 00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:43,920 the defund the police movement did not come from the 602 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,480 political right. It came from the political left. The no 603 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,000 voter I d that's the political left trying to say 604 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,799 a voter id's racist. The trans kids. That didn't come 605 00:32:53,799 --> 00:32:56,079 from the Republican side. It came from the Democrats side. 606 00:32:56,119 --> 00:32:59,400 The sanctuary cities. That phrase, that phrase is we know 607 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,240 it in societ came from It only exists in our 608 00:33:03,359 --> 00:33:08,720 vernacular because of Democrats, otherwise it wouldn't exist. Abolish ice. 609 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,079 The only people that have ever said that on the 610 00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:13,920 political left. Now on the heels of Obama being the 611 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,319 deporter in chief, just a few years ago he deported 612 00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:20,400 two point seven million people critical race theory. Who do 613 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,160 you think came up with that phrase? It wasn't conservatives. 614 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,720 Only the left could come up with critical race theory 615 00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:27,200 and have that as something they want to hang their 616 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,720 head on. If they want to hang hats, maybe non 617 00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:33,839 sexual hats. I don't know. Men and women's sports, come on, 618 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,599 no cash bail. These aren't phrases embitted by the political right. 619 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,559 Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 620 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,640 so much for listening. I could not do the show 621 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,160 without your support and the support of the businesses that 622 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,319 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 623 00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:52,039 them too and tell them you heard it here. You 624 00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:54,680 can also become a patron at my Patreon page or 625 00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:58,400 go to dpetekallanershow dot com. Again, thank you so much 626 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,000 for listening, and don't break anything while I'm gone. 627 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: M