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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Great Detectives of Old Time Radio from Boise, Idaho.

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This is your host, Adam Graham. In a moment, we're

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going to bring you this week's episode of The Big Story.

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at Amazing Great Detectives dot Net. Now from March fourteenth,

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nineteen fifty one, here is the Case of the Cautious Killer.

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Speaker 2: A Big Story.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful, Yes it is. This is your first time down

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here in about the Moon.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I have been in California long.

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Speaker 3: I'm you their Time Academy up at a meet you

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said you had a.

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Speaker 5: Friend down here with Kevin, So I came along with

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the Life Work Weekend.

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Speaker 4: By the way, the man.

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Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but I'd rather it's something about

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than at.

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Speaker 4: Something about it.

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Speaker 5: Oh I'm just a normal guy, so normal sometimes drives

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me a little crazy.

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Speaker 2: H Eureka, California. On the pages of the Humble Times.

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The story of a cup reporter and the murderer who

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took a liking to him, Eureka, California. The story isn't

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actually happened at new Meyer's story as he lived.

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Speaker 6: In Maybe some guys enjoy being interviewed for a job.

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Maybe some guys can even help themselves by acting is

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if they didn't care whether they got the job or not.

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Speaker 7: But not you, at Newmire, You'll care very much. And

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as you sit.

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Speaker 6: Nervously in the office of the Humboldt Times in Eureka

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on a hot July second, all you can think of

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is that you're not a kid anymore.

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Speaker 7: You're married and in need of a job.

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Speaker 4: And after you got out of the Air Force, what then? Confusion?

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Speaker 5: I couldn't make up my mind what I wanted to

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do with myself. Then I got married and the confusion

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cleared up.

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Speaker 4: Who You're married? A job counsel? No, just a night gal?

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Tell you what I can do for you.

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Speaker 8: So it's Saturday, Monday is your life? Well, how would

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you like to start working for us beginning Tuesday morning.

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You mean that, mister Barnes, Sure, I mean would you

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like to start Thursday?

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Speaker 4: Would I? Geez? Would I just say, mister Barnes, could

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I call my wife before you call her? D? Let's

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get a couple of details. Takes. You're being put on

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as a CUB reporter. Sure, sure, never had any real experience,

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so I kind of expect that you will be on

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trial for six months at CUB pay. Six months.

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Speaker 7: That's the way we work it.

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Speaker 5: I'll see six months on trial a CUB pay. That's

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a long time matters.

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Speaker 4: Man. I know how it was said, but that's our rule.

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No way of breaking it, I'm afraid not. What if

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find good? We expect you to be good. What I

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find very good. Let me tell you something, ed If.

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Speaker 9: You went out caught a murderer single handed, then got

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him to sign a confession, and then got the story

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exclusive for our papers, well.

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Speaker 8: We might break the rule and put you on permanent

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staff before the sixth month were up.

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Speaker 4: And the chances of that happening to a CUB reporter

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in Eureka are about oh, I'd say roughly a million

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to one.

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Speaker 10: Again, this morning, you landed a job. But to look

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at somebody who was in the finance company. Just read

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what was.

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Speaker 5: About how to catch a murderer single handed, how to

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get him to confess to me, and how to get

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the story exclusive to the tape.

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Speaker 3: Come, I think I married.

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Speaker 4: At Jackel O. Take, I'm serious. I'm twenty five. I'll

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be a CUB reporter for six months. Oh the heck?

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Are we going to swing it?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: But what being married to me? Look at it Saturday,

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the July fourth weekend.

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Speaker 5: We're broke, so broke, I don't even have enough go

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to drive it down to the valley for the weekend.

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Speaker 12: I'm serious too, I've died only getting here, just till

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look at it. Way, did you see the business eat

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the risk, just landed a job? Starting to me, I

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ain't you lucky?

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Speaker 5: I don't see if that was peg to me? The

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lucky ones are down in the Valley of the Moon

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for the weekend. The rest of us they're sweating it

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out up.

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Speaker 6: Here, The lucky ones, they're down in the Valley of

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the Moon. You said, But how wrong you are at Nomyre.

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You weren't to find out for some time, not until

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the lust of a woman named May Patterson began running out.

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Speaker 7: It was Monday now, the morning of July four May.

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Speaker 6: Patterson was just getting out of her bed at the

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Valley of the Moon Hotel when.

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Speaker 7: Hello, is this mate Patterson?

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Speaker 4: Yes, oh, I'm glad I got your mate.

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Speaker 13: This is Hank.

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Speaker 3: Oh, yes, Hank. What's on your mind?

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Speaker 14: May?

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Speaker 4: This isn't what you think. I'm not calling you for

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a date or anything like that.

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Speaker 13: It's about the Fred.

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Speaker 4: What about Well?

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Speaker 7: He focus on.

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Speaker 4: The guy owns a cabin heats looking at him. Fred's

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kind of in pang. Mate.

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Speaker 15: He wanted me to get you and bring you here

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if you.

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Speaker 3: Become of course, of course I'll be ready in fifteen I'll.

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Speaker 13: Drive for you.

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Speaker 4: Mate, I'll be winning in front of the hotel.

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Speaker 3: How did it happen, Hang, I don't understand.

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Speaker 5: Well, I think it would try to steal the side.

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Speaker 4: Of the hill, back of the house. Maybe some of

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the Rock State boys.

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Speaker 11: Maybe.

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Speaker 3: Don't you know what it say?

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Speaker 4: Well, that's what he said.

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Speaker 3: What about a doctor? Did you call a doctor him?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll probably be there by the time we get there.

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Speaker 3: Here we are, okay, that's the doctor. I don't see

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another car. Why don't you coming to the house.

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Speaker 4: I'll be right along way. It's something I left out

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here in the bushes.

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Speaker 13: Go on, you're.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I cause you found what you were looking for.

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Thank what's wrong? Putting my arm the.

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Speaker 16: Pay Let me come.

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Speaker 17: Back, Peter rust regularly scheduled program with gentlemen to bring

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you a special news.

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Speaker 13: Smile.

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Speaker 18: I have just issued an all points bulletin for the

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arrest of a merchant Marine officer and the brutal slaying

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of two men and an assault upon a.

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Speaker 4: Young woman earlier today.

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Speaker 18: The woman May Patterson led the police to the Captain

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of Peter Dudley forty two, where the bodies of Dudley

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and the weekend guest bred Noyer were bombed. Another weekend guest,

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Henry Hank Kildecrat, was missing. I believe that he murdered

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the two men with an ancient Indian stone pestle and

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then assault miss Pattison.

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Speaker 13: The Norman police are of the opinion held.

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Speaker 18: The brand has headed out of the Valley of the

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Moon area Sun.

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Speaker 6: M hm.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of people down the Valley of the Moon.

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Speaker 19: Oh you'll dismissed, you may, No, we didn't go away

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for the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, mister b is here and it's a paper

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you're plot.

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Speaker 20: For me, mister Barnes, Yes, yes, I'm here. The murder,

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sure so, I just heard about them on the radio.

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What would I mind starting this afternoon instead of tomorrow?

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Speaker 13: And not at all?

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Speaker 4: You bet your life.

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Speaker 13: I'll be right down. Thanks, I am.

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Speaker 4: Barn got here as fast as I close.

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Speaker 9: Fine, good, take this address here and get there as

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fast as you can. Right at the ham and Dot

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one of the autumn. And just Paul claims he caught

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the biggest tun of fish on record. That's tune of fish,

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that's what he said. Well, come on, get going, fish,

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don't keep forever.

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Speaker 4: What's the matter with you? Not not the murders, the

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murders down in Sonoma.

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Speaker 16: I've got every one of my regular men out on

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that murder. You don't think I put a cub on

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it to you?

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Speaker 4: That's why I called you. The regulars are all tied up.

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Now I need you for the local stock. Yes, canon

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fish Barnes thinking, what come on?

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Speaker 13: Speak up?

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Speaker 4: You're talking to low.

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Speaker 13: I can't thank you up?

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Speaker 4: You what you got a story on the murders in

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ten minutes at the Bellage Bar?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Sure, there it goes the first government, firstus, home of the.

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Speaker 9: Barn cranks, the crack pots, the boys with the overheated brains.

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Is this the city editor, where if you send a

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reporter to the.

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Speaker 7: Village bar in ten minutes, I'll tell him all about

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the murders.

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Speaker 4: The minute they hear about a murder, they start cooking

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in the village bar is on the way to the dock.

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Speaker 9: Want me to check on it, mister barn huh oh,

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go ahead if you want to ask for Joe, he said,

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But don't let.

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Speaker 13: The just tie you up.

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Speaker 4: And Ed, Yes, sir, if he tells you he's Napoleon,

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don't believe him.

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Speaker 14: I'm Napoleon, missus, Si Harris returning into your narrator and

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the big story of Ed new Meyer as he lifted.

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Speaker 6: And when you left the office of the Humboldt Times

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that afternoon at no myer, you look like a kid

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has been sent out of the loom, just from the

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grown up began talking something the regulars on the paper.

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We're all the sign of the double murder which had

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occurred that morning.

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Speaker 7: But you were on your way to.

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Speaker 6: Cover a fish. I gonna ask the thought. The editor

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had also asked you to follow up a crank call

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on the murder.

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Speaker 4: I'm as new Meyer with a humble times. Yeah, don't

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tell me if you go and drink, what'll it be?

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Speaker 5: Uh? Plus, a fellow named Joe said he teaser. He

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said he had a story for the paper. You happen

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to know what these guys was named Joe?

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Speaker 4: Look in the bar.

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Speaker 7: Everybody's name Joe.

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Speaker 4: Hey, an, you guys call it off like that. This

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guy here says, somebody named Joe said he had a

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story from the paper, and you were man, you the

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one called the paper. I sain not okay, Come on,

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why guy, what's your story?

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Speaker 13: What's my story? For the fun?

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Speaker 6: It's not very pleasant to have a balloon full of

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men laughing at you. So you turn to the street door.

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He's you're nun too patient with a man blocking your egg.

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You don't care for his cloud sports clothes or his

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dark sun glass.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me?

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Speaker 13: Are you the time?

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Speaker 4: What's it to you?

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Speaker 5: It's just a look on, young, Come on, fellow, let

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me buy. I've got a job to do, because I

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call what do you mean you called? I thought it

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was that drunk playing a practical joke.

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Speaker 7: No you mind?

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Speaker 13: Well, I.

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Speaker 5: Oh sure, come on, Hey, what's the matter with your hands?

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The way they're shaking?

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Speaker 4: Look, look, you want to know what I think.

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Speaker 5: I think you're a guy with a DT he's just

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lonesome for company. I don't think you've got a thing

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to tell about those murders.

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Speaker 4: I'm the child. Look the murders this morning. You don't believe?

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Oh no, I mean, hello, I what's your real name? Thanks?

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Sigger bling? Mhm, No, you could have gotten that from

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the radio report, so honestly anymore? Thank well? Well, I

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mean if any guy can say that just for some publicity. Look,

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I just started on the paper day. I mean I

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I can't take any chance. But that's my name, Hank Kills,

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the brand. Okay, show me your credential. I don't know,

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you don't have like a weird report of me. Show

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me your I'm yah, yeah my first start me. Okay,

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now sell me your adition to my Social Security card

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or not? When they're in the academy. Yeah sure, okay,

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all right, what are we doing now? Now? How you.

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Speaker 2: Listen?

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Speaker 4: Hank?

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Speaker 5: It?

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Speaker 4: What if we all right with you? If I called

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my editor, No, I don't know, No, no, you better not.

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You might call the police. I don't want to police

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catching in the public place. I might get hurt. That's

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why I'm getting myself up to you.

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Speaker 21: Oh why don't you drive me over to your place.

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Speaker 13: I'll be safe there.

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Speaker 5: The only thing is my wife half a car. Mhm,

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ll nic, I just do. We've gotta walk the walk

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Crosstown for the taper. Why not didn't I say? Really

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nice town?

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Speaker 4: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 5: I've not like walking through sounds like this. This is

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if nothing happened. Yeah, yes, here so normal?

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Speaker 4: You got much further to go. No, it's just a

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few blocks. Look, what do you mean as I had

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seen all this last time. Oh, I'm not so sure anymore.

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All of a sudden, I'm not so sure that I

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want to give all this up. Stodies. Well, it's just

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a few blocks. I'm not so sure I want to give.

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Speaker 3: Up all this.

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Speaker 4: Someone talking?

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Speaker 12: You want by I go into some challenging time you Well,

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how about introduce the media.

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Speaker 4: Uh, this is my wife. Hey guy, I'd like you

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to meet Joe. Yeah, Joe, do you want to be

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no dinner? What about it?

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Speaker 3: He had lunch hours ago? If the office at talk

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at dinner?

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Speaker 4: What happened? Well, hey, guys, Uh, I'm on business. This

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man here, I mean, Joe, this is business.

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Speaker 3: I don't step back to How about it, Joe, would.

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Speaker 19: You like to do this today?

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Speaker 13: Just pay?

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Speaker 16: You don't understand you've got business with Joe anything harrying

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on over a good dinner just as well than what about?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 7: Thanks, Peg, I'll call.

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Speaker 13: You from the office.

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Speaker 4: Joe and I have to get along. Sure, sure, see

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you later, Peg. Nice real your wife? Yeah? They was

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nice to unt. Thank you? What made you do it?

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Come on all of a sudden, Let's get to your walls.

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Sit here for nobody will disturbed you in this office?

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Where you're going me? I I thought i'd better get

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mister Bonham. Who's he? My ball? Oh? You'll sit right there.

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Once he's in the next office. I'll be right fast. Sure,

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I listen to.

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Speaker 13: Me, Gady Ready, are you listening?

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Speaker 9: The highway police justin ounced they got when you were

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seen in the vicinity of Gilsburg two hours ago.

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Speaker 4: I'm near will it mister Barnes will excuse me? Yeah?

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Speaker 13: See if the sheriff knows that.

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Speaker 16: Mister Barnes, please he says something, I m get off

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my neck, will you as you say, I'm on the phone.

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But if the sheriff lost, kill the brand's trail. Get

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inside for the stay highway.

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Speaker 4: For mister Barnes. You don't understand.

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Speaker 13: For all, I don't like.

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Speaker 4: To be interrupted in the middle of a murder story.

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Speaker 13: I've got Brady on the phone here or not?

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Speaker 4: Say I could?

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Speaker 5: I've got Hank killed the Brands in the office next door,

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the murderer, Grady, Hold.

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Speaker 4: On a minute, our new club, let's not done. Okay

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in my head, slowly now, who is in the office

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next door? Kill the brown? The guy who calls from

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the village bar. Remember it turned out to be him.

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I just walked across town with a how do you know? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Showed me his social Security card, is his papers and

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some more stuff here here there's a social security.

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Speaker 4: Card ready, listen, say where you are? I think we've

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just been.

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Speaker 7: Stuck by liking.

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Speaker 4: No mayra ed Son. I just show Oh, thanks, so

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which authoress? He's waiting him so patiently like.

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Speaker 16: In the next one the make up desk. Oh, yes,

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I guess that although raisically knives and shock cheers we

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used for dumbing up the patent. Well, I I didn't

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know if I was so.

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Speaker 4: It come up. Thank you, mister. This is my boss,

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mister bond h how do you do something? Oh? Oh,

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I go, Hank.

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Speaker 5: I explained to mister Barnes, why you gave yourself up

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to us instead of the police.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to get hurt.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I understand.

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Speaker 4: How do we begin? How do you mean? Oh? Well,

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maybe I'd better sit down here and take no? Yes, yeah, Hank.

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Do you mind if we both asked a question? No?

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Speaker 5: Well, well, Hank, maybe if you answered the most important question,

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you know what made you do it?

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Speaker 4: Both? Bred?

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Speaker 5: Muller invited me up over the weekend if he does

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these places h and May Tennison was staying at a

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hotel nearby. Final night, she came over. She knew that before,

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and I made a pass at her and she brushed

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me off. But everything went along fine, was until Monday morning.

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I walked between eight and ten am and.

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Speaker 4: I've got a final pulsation was rapid heart? Have you

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ever had that fay before?

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Speaker 21: And I went outside and I put the strong. I

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think it was an Indian prestle came into the cabinet.

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I hit bread, I hit yeah, he was great fort.

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Speaker 4: Yam.

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Speaker 5: Then I like the cabin aster calling me about the

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broken armstrong.

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Speaker 4: He at to the cabin. I got the strong. I

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had to push. She ran into the house and can

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thread and seep and then and then mm hm like

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she said, were you jealous of the two? Is that why?

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Speaker 6: You don't know?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Maybe I just paid that private pulsation in the record heart.

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Speaker 21: Seem the only way to get whether that's.

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Speaker 4: I'm unlike something.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I'll go down and get you something.

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Speaker 4: Hank steak, Make it a steak now we it it's

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your real.

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Speaker 13: H oh.

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Speaker 2: We redo that telegram from at Newmyer for Eureka, California,

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Humble Times.

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Speaker 5: Murderer and Tonight's big story seemed resigned to his face

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as he walked into San Frentin's gas chamber.

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Speaker 4: We had nothing to add to the confession already given

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to our tapers.

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Speaker 5: By the way, I covered the story of the execution

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as a full fled reports.

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Speaker 4: And so ends another big story.

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Speaker 15: In order to protect the names of people actually involved

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into nice, authentic big stories, the names of all characters

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and the dramatization were changed, with the exception of the

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newspaper recorders. This is the United States Armed Forces Radio Service,

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The Voice of Information and Education.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. Well, first of all, let's go ahead and

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go through the cast. Mister Newmeyer was played by Owen Jordan.

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Also in the cast were Melbourne Ray, MZ Strickland, Chat Stratton,

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William Keene and Joe Helgeson. Well, let's go ahead and

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talk about the real life story on which this was based.

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The name of the killer was Henry brum Gold Branson,

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and I will admit to being amused a bet by

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what the Big Story decided to do with this, because

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they make this point about we changed the names to

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protect the innocent, and they changed the last name but

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left the first name as Hank, which is just a

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shortened form of Henry. It's like the Blanche thing a

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couple weeks ago. If you're trying to cover yourself from

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getting in trouble legally, your best just to change both names.

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The names of the victims were Lieutenant Peter Flint of

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the Merchant Marine and Peter Jensen, and the events occurred

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on July fourth weekend nineteen forty nine. Now, the whole

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cop reporter thing, which and getting on the staff full time,

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isn't something that's confirmed. The point that he covered the

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execution as a full fledged member of staff doesn't really

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even speak to that, as the execution occurred in October

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of nineteen fifty, by which point Newmeyer, even if he

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had just started on July fourth, would have been with

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the paper fifteen months. The end part where they said

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that there was no additional explanation offered at the time

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of the execution is completely inaccurate. Actually, Humboldt Times from

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October obert eighth, nineteen fifty has the headline Goldbranson tells

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motives for murder subhead story revealed the Humble Times reporter

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at San Quentin eighteen hours before doomed Man executed, So

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not true at all. The motive was just not something

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that you would talk about on the radio in nineteen

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fifty one, and even in the Times, Newmeyer was opaque

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in his explanation so that this could run in a

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family newspaper. A modern reader reading between the lines can

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say that Albernson had a traumatic event happened when he

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was fifteen years old, and something happened that triggered him

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at the cabin and and then he did what he did.

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And new Meyer tells a very compelling story of his

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visit It started after new Meyer got there and he

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asked him about something Goldbsen had told a San Francisco

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reporter that he had a secret he was going to

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take to his grave, and he asked whether Goldbernsen would reconsider,

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and he was really unsure about it. He ended up

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asking new Meyer to call his mother, give him give

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her the date nineteen thirty and ask if he was

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okay with him revealing what had happened. And so new

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Meyer called the mother in New Jersey and found out

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to his whore that she did not actually know that

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her son was going to be executed, so he had

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to tell her, and she conveyed that she loved her

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son never stopped thinking about him, and when Goldbernson heard that,

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he broke down, which really made new Meyer uncomfortable, and

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he ended up after just getting this information and hearing

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this story was such an ordeal that and the conversation

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with the mother, he ended up deciding he did not

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want to stay around for the execution and left before

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that happened. But he still wrote a very compelling story

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and it was actually just a very solid read, and

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Newmeyer just showed a real strong sense of being able

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to tell a story and to get the audience engaged,

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which a lot of news articles did not do at

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the time. They're a lot more dry. This one very engaged.

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Definitely more of a feature writer style to it, but

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it was a good read. Newmeyer end Up went on

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to have a very long career, though not all of

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it in journalism. I found his obituary the Marine Independent

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Tunnel from two thy ten when he passed at eighty six.

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He had irved in World War Two. Then he went

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to college Eastern Washington College, and then got a law

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degree from Golden Gate University. But they don't mention him

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practicing law, but it did a lot else. He went

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on to become a teacher at Temple Pious Union High

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School District as well as an administrator and helped set

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up three different high schools with student news bureaus, taught

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classes on the sea, and he also after retirement, he

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and his wife went overseas and taught in a host

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of different countries. His wife said, one of his nephews said,

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you have led an adventurous and intelligent life. That's exactly

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what he set out to do and what he did. Now,

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one other thing I should mention the name Edward new

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Meyer might sound familiar to you, and you might be wondering,

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is he any relation to Edward V. New Meyer, who

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wrote the first RoboCop film as well as Starship Troopers.

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And yes, the Edward Newmeyer in Tonight's Big Story is

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actually the father of the screenwriter for those films. A

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very interesting life, and it's nice that this little chapter

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of it gets captured, although not in a complete way

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through an old time radio program. Listener comments and feedback.

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Now and we have an email from Lawrence regarding the

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episode The Killer with the Mind of a Child. I

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really like this latest installment you played. That is what

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I could hear of it. It was probably the worst

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audio I've heard on your show. I was surprised that

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you didn't at least mention the poor quality like you

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some times do. Anyway, continued success, well, thanks so much.

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I appreciate the comment, Lawrence, and I probably should have

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mentioned that. The thing is that with that one, I

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got so focused on all of the practical issues with

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the story and with understanding what was going on from

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a practical standpoint and what actually happened, and was able

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to understand pretty well everything that happened in the story,

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so I ended up focusing on that forgot about the

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sound quality, which was isn't the greatest, although I think

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we've played a few worse. But I should have called

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out the sound quality. Would not have taken long to

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do so, and I'll try to keep that in mind.

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Thanks so much, appreciate the comment. And then we go

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to Patreon for a comment on our five thousandth episode special.

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Congrats on five thousand episodes. That's an amazing number to reach.

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Appreciate your work so much. Robert Young doesn't sound much

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like Jim Anderson here to me, which is a good

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thing given the tone. Well, thank you so much and

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I definitely agree. And again Robert Young just shows some

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real range here. Well, now it's time to thank our

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Patreon supporter of the day. Thank you to Glenn, Patreon

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supporter since March of twenty twenty five, currently supporting us

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a detective Sergeant level of seven dollars and fourteen cents

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or more per month. Thanks so much for your support, Glenn,

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and that'll do it for today. If if you're enjoying

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the podcast, please follow us using your favorite podcast software

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and be sure to rate and review the podcast. Wherever

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you download it from. We will be back next Tuesday

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with another episode of the Big Story. But join us

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back here tomorrow for Broadways My bait.

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Speaker 4: Where please come in?

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Speaker 5: I asked you something?

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Speaker 3: Yes, what have I to do with Gordon Merrick alive?

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Speaker 6: We found him holding a portrait of you when he

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was shot in the back.

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Speaker 7: He must have reached out and in the back, cool

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boy in the back.

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Speaker 4: It must have hurt you, think, so think what I

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think that it hurts. Tell me I want to know.

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Speaker 7: I'll send you the Audiptsey report.

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Speaker 4: Do that, please do that.

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Speaker 2: That's all it means to you?

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Speaker 7: Is dying like that?

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Speaker 11: Gordon call me at the theater tonight, asked me to

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a champagne supper for two, a cold bird and candle

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light to talk about things. I was bored talking to

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about things, so I didn't go. I came home, tried

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to sleep.

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Speaker 6: Oh my portrait in his arms, poor boy, talk to

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him about what things?

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Speaker 4: Miss Rice vic king.

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Speaker 11: Him over there in the silver picture frame. I met

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him when I toured the USO last floor. The man

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stood out from that olive drab crowd on the hill.

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I went after him, tooth and flow.

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Speaker 7: I got him and Marek wanted you back, wanted you

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away from this that came.

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Speaker 11: He never made it, but he died trying. That you

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can say for good and Merik, he never stopped trying.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime,

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send your comments to Box thirteen at Great Detectives dot nett,

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