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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Dan Zupanski. Here today, we're sharing something special with you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a preview from forty eight Hours, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>top true crime podcasts. On the forty eight Hours podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll hear award winning CBS News correspondents investigate shocking murder

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<v Speaker 1>cases and compelling real life dramas from one of television's

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<v Speaker 1>most watched true crime shows. I'm about to play you

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<v Speaker 1>a clip from forty eight Hours while you're listening. Follow

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<v Speaker 1>get your podcasts. Okay, here's the clip. Forty eight Hours

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<v Speaker 1>correspondent Peter van zandt takes us back to the night

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<v Speaker 1>of November thirteenth, two thousand and twenty two, to the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Idaho, the scene of the now infamous and

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<v Speaker 1>chilling murders of four young students. Listen in as van

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<v Speaker 1>zant speaks with a few family members of the victims.

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<v Speaker 2>Moscow will forever be known as the scene of one

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<v Speaker 2>of the most tragic crimes in American history. There's still

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<v Speaker 2>sort of a darkness whenever you talk to people. It

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<v Speaker 2>would be ever part of the university's history and the

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<v Speaker 2>town's history.

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<v Speaker 3>There are four very very important names in this case

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<v Speaker 3>Kallay Gonsolvez, Madison Mogen, Xana Cernodle, and Ethan Chapin. And

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<v Speaker 3>if you're going to remember any names from this case,

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<v Speaker 3>I ask that it be all four. My name is

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<v Speaker 3>Olivia Gonzalvez and Kaylie was my little sister.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody's going to work and you look out the window

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<v Speaker 4>and there's kids running down the street laughing, and you're

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<v Speaker 4>just like, how can you be out there playing?

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<v Speaker 3>My daughter's dead?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Kiala Gonsolvez is gone.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop everything, everybody in the whole world stop, and everything

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<v Speaker 3>just keeps going.

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<v Speaker 4>My sister, Xanna Kernole is one of the happiest, funniest

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<v Speaker 4>people I've ever met, and I had the awesome privilege

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<v Speaker 4>of growing up with her, and I still have a

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<v Speaker 4>hard time coming to terms with the fact that did

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<v Speaker 4>it happen.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Coberg is accused of stabbing these four University of

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<v Speaker 3>Idaho students in the pre dawn hours on November thirteenth,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty two. The murder weapon, which was a knife,

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<v Speaker 3>has never been found. This is the type of survival knife.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Coberger did not make his own plea. The judge

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<v Speaker 3>entered a plea for him of not guilty.

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<v Speaker 4>Excellent penalty is life in prison for.

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<v Speaker 3>The death pack you due to the nature of the

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<v Speaker 3>crimes the state of I was seeking the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 3>He was there to kill.

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<v Speaker 1>He came in with the kid.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe he had to kill Kit and you believe

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<v Speaker 5>that everything right down to the implement of destruction, this

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<v Speaker 5>large marine knife, that was all planned, all planned.

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<v Speaker 1>It was inhumane.

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<v Speaker 6>You wouldn't do these type of things to any living creature,

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<v Speaker 6>let alone an innocent human being.

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<v Speaker 5>In August of twenty twenty three, just six weeks before

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<v Speaker 5>the murdered trial of Brian Koberger was set to begin,

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<v Speaker 5>he waived his right to a speedy trial. Absolutely, they

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<v Speaker 5>would have to wait indefinitely for their day in court.

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<v Speaker 3>I was really hoping that we could get this show

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<v Speaker 3>on the road because the not knowing it just it

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<v Speaker 3>is agony.

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<v Speaker 4>It is agony.

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<v Speaker 5>Steve and Christie, the parents of Kayley, haven't left anything

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<v Speaker 5>to chance. After the judge issued a gag order to

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<v Speaker 5>attorney's and law enforcement quote to preserve the right to

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<v Speaker 5>a fair trial, they drilled down on their own investigation

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<v Speaker 5>and are now sharing what they believe that investigation found.

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<v Speaker 5>Steve says he believes transparency is the best path to justice.

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<v Speaker 6>We're not going to just sit back and cross our

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<v Speaker 6>fingers and pray that we're going to get justice.

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<v Speaker 5>It has been a long and painful journey for the

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<v Speaker 5>families of Kaylee Gonsalvez, Matti Mogan, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin.

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<v Speaker 5>Do you ever dream of your sister?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've had some dreams of her. There's terms where

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<v Speaker 4>I prayed and ask God to see her ad other

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<v Speaker 4>time and I did, and excise me some peace knowing

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<v Speaker 4>that I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know she okay.

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<v Speaker 5>Jasmine Kernodle, who was speaking for the first time, was

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<v Speaker 5>a senior at Washington State University and lived only fifteen

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<v Speaker 5>minutes away from her younger sister Xanna. Often mistaken as

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<v Speaker 5>twins growing up, she says they were best friends.

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<v Speaker 4>She was always fun, she was uplifting and took any

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<v Speaker 4>god situation turned it into a good one.

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<v Speaker 5>Jeff, what did you love most about your daughter?

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<v Speaker 2>Everything? She cared about people. She was a people persons

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<v Speaker 2>cared about her friends just as nice as like your family.

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<v Speaker 5>For the first time in her life, Xana had fallen

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<v Speaker 5>in love with fellow student Ethan Chapin, a triplet who

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<v Speaker 5>loved his siblings, boats and working on a tulip farm.

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<v Speaker 4>The sweetest kid ever. They were just two happy people

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<v Speaker 4>and they're just seeing the videos and photos of them,

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<v Speaker 4>you can just like tell how happy they are. They're

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<v Speaker 4>just amazing together.

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<v Speaker 5>Sadly, they will now forever be linked in death. On

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<v Speaker 5>Sunday morning, November thirteenth, Xana's friends started calling Jasmine, saying

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<v Speaker 5>something bad had happened on King Road. Jasmine rushed over

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<v Speaker 5>to Xana's house. And while you're driving that eight nine

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<v Speaker 5>miles over to the house, are you trying to reach

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<v Speaker 5>your sister?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 5>How many times you call her?

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<v Speaker 3>A lot?

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<v Speaker 4>I called her a lot a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Her next call was to her father. Jeffrey had been

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<v Speaker 5>visiting Jasmine for dad's weekend and was on his way home.

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<v Speaker 5>So you answer the phone, what do you hear?

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<v Speaker 2>You're kind of crying and just telling me to get

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<v Speaker 2>back to Moscow and meet me Sanna's house, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my heart drops.

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<v Speaker 4>Instantly race back down there.

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<v Speaker 5>The house was cordoned off and swarming with investigators. As

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<v Speaker 5>soon as Jeffrey said he was Zana's father, he and

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<v Speaker 5>Jasmine were escorted to the Moscow Police Department and Jasmine,

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<v Speaker 5>what does the officer say to you and your father?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I'll remember exactly just that four people passed away

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<v Speaker 4>and no one was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That, Yeah, we'll stay your life.

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<v Speaker 4>Your worst name there.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what do you do? Can't you damn thing?

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