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your support. First off, though, I want to welcome back

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to the program, Reverend David Chadwick. He is the senior

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pastor at Moments of Hope Church. He is also the

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host of the David Chadwick Show. You can hear that

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on Sundays at eight am right here on WBT. Welcome David.

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How are you, sir?

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Speaker 2: Hi Pete? I'm doing well. Thank you. I hope you

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are too, staying warm?

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Speaker 1: I hope yes. Do you do anything special for these ones?

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In a three year, four year cycled snow events?

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Speaker 2: Build a fire, get with my wife. I talk a

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lot and spend some time with her, which is really wonderful.

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Speaker 1: That's good. That sounds like a plan. The only fire

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I've got is like the outdoor fire pits. So I

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think I might not be able to pull that one off.

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Speaker 2: But not today, Pete, not today.

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Speaker 1: No, all right, so we have we have good news.

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We announced this yesterday, the total count here for the

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big fundraising efforts. So I'll let you do the honors here.

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So the uh, I guess we need I should ask?

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Has it closed down now? Is it officially over? Or

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our donations still being accepted as part of the campaign.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've got money still coming in, Pete, and if

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anybody would still want to, I guess they can still

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do so, though we have officially said let's just stop it,

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because honestly, it's been so successful. And you know, we

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started December the first with one hundred thousand dollars matching

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gift from Moments of Hope Church for the purpose of

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raising two hundred thousand dollars to help people in western

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North Carolina, especially though those who are losing their homes

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and just don't have a place to live. And we

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thought that was a big, hairy, audacious goal, and we

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went about it, and we're excited to help anybody we could.

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And as of now, though we have been astounded with

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what has come in we have right now three hundred

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and fifteen thousand dollars plus that has been given to

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the campaign, and honestly, pete it again. It's still coming in.

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It's going to be a bit higher than that as well.

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So honestly, we had a two hundred thousand dollars goal.

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We are now at three hundred and fifteen plus thousand dollars.

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We're overwhelmed, we're excited. We think this will be something

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that will really help a lot of people who've been

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devastated by the hurricane in western North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: So one of the issues I saw out west with

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some of the government grant programs and stuff is a

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lack of capacity in some of the organizations that the money,

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the grant money's kind of flowing through. That there's just

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so much money and so much need and these organizations

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don't have the capacity to kind of process everything. Is

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that of any concern to you with the organizations y'all

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are working with in the West.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have tried teat to do this more relationally,

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and what we've done is we've got a good number

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of people who have relationships with people in western North Carolina.

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And you know, even though this excuse me, is a

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lot of money. It's not going to go real far

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in regards to the needs. So we have identified the needs,

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we have talked to the people, and we're going to

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respond more individually and personally to the people's needs that

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we know they're because we've built relationships with them. We

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still may work through some organizations like you know, the

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Baptist Association in Samaritans Purse and others like that that

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are doing some really wonderful work, but we have felt

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like we wanted to reach the people who are off

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the grid, who aren't normally going to be touched by

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those particular organizations, and we've been able to find a

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large number of them who just are living day to

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day and those are the ones that we're touching and helping.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, as people are sitting around they're

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fireplaces and watch watching the snowfall and stuff, there are

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a lot of people out in the West that are

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going to be out in those conditions because they don't

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have permanent shelter. Some of them are in you know,

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essentially sheds, shacks. There have been some new deliveries of shelter,

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which is good to see, but I also just saw

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that FEMA is now telling some of these hurricane victims

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that their time is up on the transitional housing assistance

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and so they're going around telling everybody they got to

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be out by the end of the day, out of

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like hotel rooms and stuff. It's just it's one of

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the things that when you see the amount of help

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that the private organizations, nonprofits, churches, how they have been

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able to get the aid to the people directly, it's frustrating,

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but like from like when you see the need and

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you see the jam ups and stuff, but it's also

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pretty it's pretty inspiring and to kind of reneuce my

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faith in my fellow human beings, like it's through this

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suffering that we are called to serve.

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Speaker 2: Well, you're right, Pete, and it is just an extraordinary problem.

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And what's so strange weird is that now with the

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wildfires on the West Coast, it's almost like you move

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to the next problem that's out there in the world,

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and yet the problem in western North Carolina has not

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gone away. And my guest this Sunday on my show

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is Anne Graham Watts, and she's Billy Graham's daughter. Yeah,

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and their home, you know, of course, is in Montree,

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Black Mountain, et cetera. And we talked about this, and

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she has a ninety eight year old friend who lives

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in that area whose house was completely destroyed by the

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hurricane in flooding. FEMA has come in and offered her

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fifteen thousand dollars to buy the land, and that's not

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even going to begin to touch what she needs in

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order to have a place to live. So those kind

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of people, and an you mentioned the ones that FEMA

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is now kicking out of the hotels motels where they've

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been staying, well where do they go? And the offering

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that they're giving to the people for land acquisition is

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absolutely ridiculous. And so that's where people like us have

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just got to step in and relationally care for them

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and do what we can do. The Amish have donated,

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you know, a good number of tiny homes. There are

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others who are like the Baptist Association believes that in

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the homes that have any kind of remnant whatsoever, if

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they can build a front porch and a back door

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and restore the kitchen for fifteen thousand dollars, a lot

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of families can move back into their homes. So that's

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the kind of person, the person, the person we've got

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to do and I think you're right, Pete, A lot

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of us really do care. And we've got to be

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the church, got to be the people of faith who

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walk into these places and say, we don't need to

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go through the red tape. We have the money. Now,

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three hundred and fifteen plus thousand dollars can help restore your.

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Speaker 1: Life, right, I mean, it is. It's one of those

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things where you know, the people empower these agencies and

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you know, public government operations, and there's sort of this offloading.

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I think that occurs where it's like, Okay, well, you

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know I'm paying higher taxes, I support higher taxes, and

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so therefore I'm okay with not really doing something myself.

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But that's the thing that makes the community, that's the

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thing that makes the society what it is. It's the

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individuals that go out. I've been saying for years like

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if you want government to do less, if you're a

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limited government, small government kind of person, then the individual

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people need to do more than we need to do more,

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because the more we abdicate these things to somebody else

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or some other entity or agency, they're going to do

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it they're going to take over, and they're not going

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to do it as well, I would submit as the

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churches do. I mean, that's been one of the big

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stories to me at a western North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Pete, and one of the things that

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warms my Hearty. You know, I'm a pastor. I've given

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my life to the local church because I still believe

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that the local churches the hope of the world, where

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people dealing with people can help them deal with their problems.

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And one of the real heartwarming parts of all of

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this crisis, and it's just been devastating, though, has been

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the thousands of churches that have come together, regardless of

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their denominational affiliation, and have said, let's break down the

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walls that have separated us and let's care for people

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who are really hurting. And that has happened, and that

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has been really encouraging to my heart.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So thank you for all of your work on this,

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and thank you to all the listeners who have donated

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the money to help in this effort. The website is

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CITYOFHOPECLT dot org. If people still want to contribute, Is

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there anything else that you want to add here before

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we let you go that you think is important or

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interesting for people to know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. One other thing, Pete, is that this is going

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to serve as kind of a budget through twenty twenty five,

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and it's not going to be given away immediately. As

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we identify needs, we're going to be giving those people

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who have those needs the money that's necessary to live.

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And it's going to go through twenty twenty five. May

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have to start in twenty twenty six starting again, but

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until then we have this amount of money for a

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budget to help us with the needs that come to

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our face.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, that's great, and yeah this is not this

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recovery is years years, not months. So thanks again for

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coming on and for leading the effort. I really appreciate it.

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People can catch David's show, The David Chadwick Show. It's

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on Sundays at eight am to nine am right here

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on wbt's also the senior pastor at Moments of Hope Church.

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Thank you, sir, appreciate.

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Speaker 2: It, Thanks Pete, and thanks for lending your microphone to

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the number of listeners that you have who have donated,

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and may I say to all of them, thank you

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so much for participating in this endeavor.

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a couple of things going on weather related. Have you

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heard this? That the that there's some winter weather coming in.

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Have you heard this? I'm just looking forward to the

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ability to say the term wintrey mix, wintree mix. That's

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I'd never heard this term before I came to the

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Charlotte area, and I know there are a lot of

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people that are not from the Charlotte area that now

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reside here. So a couple of things. First off, if

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you are from like the northeast or anywhere that gets

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a lot of snow basically you know, like the central

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northern parts or out west the Plain States or in whatever,

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like anywhere where you're like, we get two feet of

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snow and it's fine, I can drive in snow. And like,

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if you've said that and you mock the people in

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the Queens City in the Piedmont region here in North

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Carolina and South Carolina, you're mocking them because they don't

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know how they're driving a snow Okay, just a heads

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up on something. This ain't snow only. Okay, it's not

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just snow. That's why the term wintry mix is used.

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A wintry mix is from satan. Okay. It is awful.

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It starts off real nice. It loads you with the

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beauty and oh, look at how peaceful it look at

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the beautiful snow covered hills and such. Yes, and then

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the gulf warm air comes up, pushes back against the

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weather system. Then it heats up a little bit, but

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not terribly. It's still cold, but it warms it up

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just enough, so now the snow turns into like the

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freezing rain and the sleet. And then the sun goes

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down and then it gets just cold enough or even colder,

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and everything freezes and that is not snow. You can

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drive on snow again. I am from New York I.

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in a snow covered parking lot. Because I turned seventeen,

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I was able to get my license. I had purchased

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a five hundred dollars yellow Honda nineteen eighty five civic.

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I called it the Lemon because it was in many

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ways and worked on skids and that sort of thing.

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roads and stuff, that's why they're brining all of the

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roads you can't drive on. That also, the freezing rain

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and the sleet and all that it collects on the

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tree branches, it collects on the power lines and you

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just need about a quarter of an inch, not even really,

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and it creates so much weight on the lines and

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the branches that they come down and then you have

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no power in the freezing temperatures. So this is why

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it's so awful. Another reason we are not going to

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buy snow plows to plow every bit of the roads

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because for mostly three years they will not be utilized.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Try to put that in the city council or county

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commission budget. Right, Try to say, Hey, we need to

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spend twenty million dollars to buy a whole mess of

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snow plows and then keep them in the shop for

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three years for the one and a half inch snowfall. Oh,

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and your tax is going to go up to pay

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for all that. It's not gonna happen. They're not going

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It's not a priority for a once in a three

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year snowstorm cycle. Now, if we start getting some more

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climate changey snowstorms, then maybe we get some more plows. Okay,

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but until that happens, no, we're not going to be

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doing that. So all of these things just as a

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heads up. Now, if you're from like Florida, or you're

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from like the Deep South area where you don't ever

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see snow, for the love of me, stay off the

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roads completely, okay, just do not even try. Just just

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know the limitations. Okay, don't try. Just stay home. Please

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do yourself a favor, because here's the other thing too.

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out because it's like precipitation and you don't want to

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be there. Maybe there's some like panic attack action going on,

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so you don't want to be on the roads. We

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don't want you on the roads. And then if you

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get into a car accident, then we're gonna have to

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send emergency responders out there to go clean it up,

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you know, and go respond to the site. So we

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don't want them driving around either. So if you just

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stay home, chances are they won't have to go clean

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clean up your car wreck. Also, big shout out, as

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I always try to do, to the energy crews, the

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Duke Power people, and all of the contractors that come

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in to help restore power. Thank you. Also, all of

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the road crews that are out there salting the earth.

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We appreciate you. We appreciate the guys that are out

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there running the I think two snowplows for the entire state.

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I'm kidding, there's more. They have more than two snowplows

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for the whole state, but there's not a lot, not

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in the Charlotte area. Okay, but we thank you guys

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for the work that you're doing. All right, I hope

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you had a happy holiday season. But tell me if

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something like this happened at your house. Your family and

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friends are gathering around, maybe y'all are in the living room,

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You're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing, and then somebody says, hey,

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did remember those old VHS tapes? Did you ever get

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them transferred? And then the room gets all quiet. All

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eyes are on Dad, who says, oh, you know, well,

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I've been meaning to but I just having gotten around

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to it. Look, don't let those priceless memories sit in

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a box for another year.

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the studio from down the hall at are uh are

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you the landlord here? It's how we are the landlord.

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Speaker 3: You are the land Yeah, well you know when the

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when the cup but he split and we figured out

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who owned the building when you guys started paying rent.

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Speaker 1: See I and I never knew that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I was like, we're gonna find out something

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real quick, right, right, who owns it? Right? It turned

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out to be TV.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I didn't mean to cut y'all.

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Speaker 1: No, No, that's true, Like I never it never dawned

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on me who owned the building. But yeah, so that's

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al Conklin. He is in studio, whether he's from down

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the hall at wbtv's the chief meteorologist there.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, you're in my parking spot. I

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just like, I know.

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Speaker 1: That's not true because I took the sales rep.

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Speaker 3: Because you know they're not here today.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Gosh, I totally should have. I totally should have.

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So let's talk a little bit about the weather. I've

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already given the obligatory chastising of Northerners not to think

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that this is just snow, because it's not. It will

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start off as snow, right whereas it always does. It does,

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and then it turns into what I call satan slushy.

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So walk us through what's what we can expect and

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kind of the timeline for us here in the Charlotte area.

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Speaker 3: I'm happy to do it. You know, it's an honor

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to be with you. I've always told you in the hallway,

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you're the sharpest guy on Charlotte Radio. You know that,

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all right? Now you owe me at lunch, all right,

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But here's the situation. Yeah, we've already got snow that's

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flying in the mountains now, and a lot of your

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listeners have probably seen on either television or social media

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what happened in Atlanta, and they've got it picked up

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a couple of inches. It's all moving west from west

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to east, so it's going to take some time. It's

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already up into the southern foothills now Polk County, so

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put it on. You know, I forty US seventy four.

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It's pushing eastward. I'd say within the next couple of

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hours we're going to see snow overtake Gaston, Cleveland into Lincoln.

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Give it one to two hours, and this is pushing eastward.

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The reason it's not snowing yet is the air is

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so dry right now. So if you look on all

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these weather apps, hey man, it's snowing here. So it

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just shaws it swing, you know, I see snow. It's wapping.

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It's what we call virga. It's evaporating before it reaches

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the ground. The atmosphere is in the process of moistening

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up and it will so once it reaches the ground,

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then it's game on. I think everybody in the list

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thing area will have snow at the get go, and

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so I think the travel conditions will go downhill pretty

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quickly here this afternoon. Then as you say, satan slush

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takes over as we get into the evening hours. It's

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always a mishmash of weather here. It's hardly you know,

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ever pure snow.

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Speaker 1: So in my understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong,

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which I probably am, because I, unlike you, am not

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a weather person and so meteorologists. I have no training whatsoever.

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But I've sat, you know, at a microphone for twenty

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years during these types of storms, and so it always

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seems like the snow comes first and then and I

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believe it is due to warm air that then warms

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our area just enough where the snow turns into the

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freezing rain or just rain sometimes and then everything freezes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So here's the situation. Like you know, I try

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to explain, you know, to folks that you know, in Buffalo,

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it's all snow, why because the air is at or

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below freezing from the clouds all the way to the surface.

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In Tallahassee, it's all rain, you know why, because the

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air at the surface is totally warm and it's not

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going to be any colder. But here that way, the

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atmosphere profile works is it's cold enough to snow at

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the surface. I mean we're only thirty two degrees right now.

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The problem is we have what a little bit of

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warm air that comes in aloft. And the way that

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works is, you know, you think about your house. Where

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does the heat go in your house?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Go straight up? Right? Warm air rises. Cold air is

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more dense, it weighs more, so it's down near the surface.

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So we can be twenty eight degrees and get rain

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here and you go to yourself, how the heck can

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that be? Well, yeah, it's twenty eight degrees here, but

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at the top of the Bank of America building it

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might be thirty five. So what's happening is the atmosphereic profile.

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And this is why my hair is gray and thin,

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because it's never a slam dunk here. You know, everybody

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wants to know how much am I going to get

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at one, two three Elm Street? You know, well, where's

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Elm Street? Which one in Salisbury in boone, the one

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in Lincoln'son or the one in Pineville? Right, because it

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all varies here when you're deep into the old air,

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meaning the cold air is from the cloud base all

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the way to the surface in a place like Boom

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or pretty much anywhere north of I forty easy forecast,

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it's going to be snow. If you're south, it's going

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to be mostly snow at the start, but then it'll

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transition to rain because warmer air is coming in as

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the storm cranks up. Warmer air is pushing up from

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the Gulf of Mexico, but it gets bumped up over

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the cold dome and it comes in aloft, and so

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the snow is falling through it. It hits that warm

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layer and it melts, and if it freezes, it's sleep.

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If it refreezes when it hits the surface, it's rain.

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It's freezing rain. And what determines that is how thick

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is that warm layer. So we look at the models

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and we look at three dimensionally at the atmosphere, because

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it's a really difficult thing to explain, you know, like

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I said, if the column of air is cold from

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top to bottom, it's snow. If it's not, it's going

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to be something other than snow.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be pretty amazing though, to be able

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to do your job now with the kind of technology

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that exists versus when you first started.

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. I've been doing this for forty years, and the

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technology and just the model data and the availability, it's

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almost like, you know, information overload. It's almost too much.

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To be honest with you, I worked, you know, so

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much more efficiently when there was only a couple of choices.

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Now you know, you can find a thousand things to

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look at until you you know, you're blue in the

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face and you go, well, I always say the same thing.

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We've still got to put pen to paper and make forecasts.

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You know, you know your mom doesn't care. You know,

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you know your listeners or your viewers don't care. Just

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tell me what it's gonna do. You're gonna look at

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a thousand things or you're go look at five. Let's

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figure it out and tell me what we got to do.

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Speaker 1: Here, right, And you're trying to predict the future. Unlike me,

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I just tell people what already happened. So that's why

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I always give a lot of leeway to weather people

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and I don't bash them when they get stuff wrong,

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because you're literally trying to predict the future, which is difficult.

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And I remember the first radio gig you know who,

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our weather guy was down in rock Hill was Jerry Peter,

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Sarry Peterson, and he used to come in every morning

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and he would leave us his map and then hey,

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he would draw the weather front systems with little red

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triangles and all that stuff, and then he would leave

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it for us so we could do weather reports. And

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I looked at that thing.

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Speaker 3: I have no idea what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Like, can you just write out tell me what rain temperature?

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Speaker 3: That's all I need to But it really, you know,

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your point is so well taken. It has changed so much,

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as have so many other aspects of life, right and

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you know the way that we do things now. But

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and I'm not saying it's a bad thing, it's a

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good thing. It's just that, you know, and I can

473
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remember walking in this building and a three day forecast

474
00:24:31,559 --> 00:24:34,319
was really that's about the limit. Right now, we can

475
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really go out ten days. You may not be on

476
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,039
five be one hundred percent accurate by any means, but

477
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,119
you can you can definitely spot trends. This storm that's

478
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,839
coming has been on the models for literally two weeks,

479
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,640
all the way back to New Year's Day, and it

480
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,640
was like, okay, let's see now, you know, is this

481
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,960
thing really going to hold together. Okay, here we are well.

482
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: And it's important because especially like with hurricanes, which are

483
00:24:57,759 --> 00:25:00,519
obviously very difficult to predict, like the path than all

484
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:03,920
of that stuff. But the more certainty you have, the

485
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,079
greater confidence people have in the forecast, and then the

486
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,480
more likely they are to heat the warnings. That's because

487
00:25:10,519 --> 00:25:11,759
a lot of times they're like, oh, they don't know

488
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what they're talking about, they got it wrong last time

489
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or something.

490
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that, you know, and that really is a

491
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,920
big challenge right there, Pete, is that we can and

492
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,519
you know, all kidding aside and listen, I'm my own

493
00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:23,759
worst critic. You know, the Weather Enterprise has gotten a

494
00:25:23,759 --> 00:25:26,400
lot better at forecasting weather. There's just no question about that.

495
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,599
It may not in the court of public opinion, that

496
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,160
may not necessarily be well received, but it is what

497
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,319
it is. I know the facts, and I know, you know,

498
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how how we're gauged against one another, and how we're

499
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gauged against you know, the records and what has been kept.

500
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Having said that, though, the societal difference is how people

501
00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,839
react to things. That's the intangible, that's beyond my scope.

502
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And as a scientist, yeah, I can put my dad

503
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,759
hat on I could put my husband hat on my

504
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:56,119
neighbor hat. I can, you know, I can try to

505
00:25:56,319 --> 00:25:59,599
put myself in their position. But everybody reacts differently to everything.

506
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,519
If I I tell you that you know something, you

507
00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:04,640
know dramatic, Okay, I'll just deal with it. Other people,

508
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,000
oh my god, I'm not going to leave my house.

509
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,119
You never know what's going to you know, everybody's different.

510
00:26:09,519 --> 00:26:12,680
So so the societal changes and the cultural changes, how

511
00:26:12,759 --> 00:26:15,240
people react to things. You know, you just tell them

512
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:16,480
there might be an inch of snow. My god, the

513
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,839
whole city's got to shut down. Why, you know, well,

514
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:21,400
you know, you and I come from the North. We

515
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,319
used to drive on snow all the time. It's different

516
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,759
here though, and you have to you know, what do

517
00:26:25,799 --> 00:26:27,559
they say when in Rome? You do, like the Romans,

518
00:26:27,559 --> 00:26:29,400
this is the way we operate. We don't get snow

519
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,640
that often, you know what, Give each other a break

520
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,200
and let's we'll get through this together. You know, nobody's

521
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,880
you know, hopefully nobody is you know, impacted in such

522
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,200
a bad way. But I do really seriously feel like

523
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,519
everybody is going to get snow today and tonight. So

524
00:26:41,559 --> 00:26:44,079
this three year streak in Charlotte not that we're counting,

525
00:26:44,519 --> 00:26:46,880
but it's been one thousand and seventy seven days since

526
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,880
we've had measurable snow, but not that we're counting. It's

527
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,599
going to end, but it unfortunately it won't be you know,

528
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,160
you mentioned hurricanes. Fifty miles makes a huge difference here.

529
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,319
If you're up towards I forty, it's all snow. You're

530
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:02,720
in the mountains, all snow. You're between I forty and

531
00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:06,119
I five, it's mostly snow, but some sleep. Itighty five

532
00:27:06,279 --> 00:27:09,240
and points southward generally speaking, in those quarters, Yeah, it's

533
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,119
going to be a little mishmash of everything. It'll be

534
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,920
snow initially, it'll go to sleep the seasing, and then

535
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,599
it'll become freezing rain overnight and down into South Carolina. Unfortunately,

536
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:20,319
it's probably going to be predominantly sleep and freezing rain,

537
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,400
maybe upwards of a quarter of an inch. That threshold

538
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,359
can sometimes bring down trees and power lines, but it

539
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,759
shouldn't be a lot of wind with this. So again,

540
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,160
wide variety, but I think most of Mecklenberg County will

541
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,279
pick up one to two inches of snow and sleep

542
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,440
less down towards Valentine, more towards Davidson, you know. So

543
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,279
that's the way it goes. So that's what we're kind

544
00:27:39,279 --> 00:27:40,839
of looking at. And then as I say, you get

545
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:42,240
into the foothills, it's a different story.

546
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, if you are off on any of that

547
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,400
at all, we shall burn you in fgy on Monday.

548
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 3: Well, that's nice, I'll take that day off. Let me

549
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:51,680
go down the hall day, I'll take that day off.

550
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: That's the case, all right. If you're listening to this show,

551
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,720
you know I try to keep up with all sorts

552
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,759
of current events, and I know you do too, And

553
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,160
you've probably heard me say get your news from from

554
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:04,799
multiple sources. Why Well, because it's how you detect media bias,

555
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which is why I've been so impressed with ground News.

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It's an app and it's a website, and it combines

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can compare coverage and verify information. You can check it

559
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out at check dot ground, dot news slash pete. I

560
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put the link in the podcast description too. I started

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using ground News a few months ago and more recently

562
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chose to work with them as an affiliate because it

563
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566
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570
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also supports Ground News as they make the media landscape

571
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more transparent. Thanks again to al Conklin. He is the

572
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:04,240
chief mediaorolo just down the hall at WBTV. I trust

573
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:07,279
him with all my weather needs. You should too at

574
00:29:07,319 --> 00:29:10,119
WBTV dot com. I've got it actually pulled up here.

575
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:18,880
So the forecast precipitation model that they're running at WBTV

576
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:24,279
down the hall. What time is it now? Twelve fifty three,

577
00:29:24,839 --> 00:29:32,839
So thirty percent chance of snow starting this hour goes

578
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:37,359
up to sixty percent in the one o'clock hour, It'll

579
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,519
go to eighty percent chance in the three o'clock hour,

580
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:47,599
and then the four I get yeah, yea four o'clock hour,

581
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:53,119
you're at one hundred percent. So three, four, five o'clock

582
00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:59,000
that's going to be where the precipitation is falling, and

583
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:00,880
that's going to be the brunt of the snow. And

584
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:07,000
then Satan takes over and you got the slate coming

585
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:10,359
in looks like starting around seven or eight o'clock or

586
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:18,720
so through midnight, and then ice from midnight through three am.

587
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:24,799
That is there for their precipitation forecast snow totals. If

588
00:30:24,839 --> 00:30:26,920
you were up in the as Al was saying, if

589
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,519
you're up in the Boone Morganton area, you're looking all

590
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:35,119
snow three to six inches. Then there's like a band

591
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,240
that runs from like Shelby all the way through Statesville

592
00:30:39,279 --> 00:30:41,839
that's like two to three inches of snow, one to

593
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,759
two inches of snow through the Charlotte band, and then

594
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:47,839
south of Charlotte like into Lancaster County out to Wadesboro

595
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:54,200
ice ice quarter inch up to even one inch. And

596
00:30:54,240 --> 00:31:01,440
that's the stuff that reeks havoc, you know, glazes over

597
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,240
all the roads, covers the trees, covers the power lines

598
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:09,240
and all of that. So if you take nothing else

599
00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:13,039
away from this program today, it is let's act like

600
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,359
we've been here before. People. Okay, let's you know, it's

601
00:31:16,359 --> 00:31:18,960
like scoring the touchdown, Like, let's act like we've been

602
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:21,720
in the end zone before. We have been here before.

603
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,880
So let's not all go out and lose our minds. Okay,

604
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:34,720
this is from Doogie or Dougie Clt on Twitter. It's

605
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,400
a pete tweet. He says, I won't be driving. I

606
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,799
went out last night and I bought four loaves of

607
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,759
bread and five gallons of milk. I hope it's enough.

608
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:46,799
I'm staying home and I will be safe enjoying my

609
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,839
milk sandwiches. That's good. Well, that's good. That's smart thinking

610
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,759
right there. Yeah, if you need, you know, you need,

611
00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:00,240
you know, three milk sandwiches stat before you go into withdrawals,

612
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,720
Like that's just too big of a risk, you know,

613
00:32:02,799 --> 00:32:04,200
So you got to go out and prep for the

614
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:10,240
milk sandwiches first. I assume everybody just loves the French toast.

615
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,039
That's always been my understanding of why the milk and

616
00:32:14,079 --> 00:32:18,759
bread is so needed in the run up to really anything. Also,

617
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:22,799
I did confirm this one year. I haven't done I

618
00:32:22,839 --> 00:32:26,799
haven't done the confirmation in a while. But this never

619
00:32:26,839 --> 00:32:30,559
gets billing because I guess Big Bread and Big Milk

620
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:35,920
have co opted all of the reporting on this. But ramen,

621
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,480
ramen noodles, those things are usually wiped out and unless

622
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:45,480
you go look for them, you wouldn't You wouldn't know,

623
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:47,680
because it's in like that separate aisle that nobody ever

624
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,039
really goes down unless they have to find some really

625
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:54,839
specific niche product, you know. But the the ramen noodles

626
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,160
usually get cleared out, which makes sense because they're you know,

627
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,319
you can eat them dry. You can. Did you know

628
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:02,200
that you can eat the ramen noodle brick? You can

629
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,000
eat it just as like a cracker, and you could

630
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,200
take the little MSG package that comes with it that

631
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,480
supposedly is a flavor and you could just sprinkle it on.

632
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,480
It's true, trust me. I. At one time I thought

633
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,400
about doing a ramen noodle cookbook of all the different

634
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,640
recipes I had as a college kid, how all the

635
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,079
many ways to eat ramen noodle. All right, that'll do

636
00:33:23,119 --> 00:33:25,680
it for this episode. Thank you so much for listening.

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642
00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:42,359
thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

643
00:33:42,359 --> 00:33:47,680
while i'm gone,