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back to the Pekingana Show. Dimes from Blood Satellites here.

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How you doing times, I'm doing great. I'm very very

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happy to be here. This remains one of my favorite

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shows and it's not to be able to be here

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to speak to you again. Yeah, it's been a while.

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How are you doing, Jean, I'm well, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone, this is my friend Jean. For people who

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don't know, he's not as notorious as some of us,

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but he deserves to be. He helps me work on

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a short video that I believe we'll probably be discussing today.

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But he's the brains of the operation around here.

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Speaker 1: Thanks. All right, Well, let's get into that, man, because

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I know we only have an hour. So this day

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after the inauguration here in the United States, obviously we

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were talking a lot about I mean, the big thing

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is immigration. That's the one thing people wanted to see.

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Jan six prisoners pardoned. Got that. Now we need to

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see the immigration stopped. And this video that you guys

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did together is about immigration, but to your home country

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in Canada. And you know, some of us may have

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heard that Canada has become Pajeetville. Yeah, how did this happen? Guys?

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Speaker 2: Well, and that's interesting because this video we had produced

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a short documentary called Paving over the Public. It takes

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you know, the Canadian perspective, but I maintained that it's

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directly relatable and applicable to the America situation. It's different

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in the sense that there's different groups involved. So in Canada,

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the headlines are all about.

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Speaker 1: Not totally, not totally, not totally.

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Speaker 2: Well yeah, well, because also they're going back and forth

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between our borders. So we have a big problem with

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Indians Indian migration, and there's a few causes of that,

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but you're noticing that they're flowing south through Canada into

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America as well. Whereas in America, the main groups that

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I'm hearing with trump'snauguration seems to be Central Americans and Mexicans,

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and we've got like twelve Mexicans in Canada approximately.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I just meant the groups that are

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respond for the immigration.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, good party.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well that's but we can come to we

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can we can get to that. Let's let's stay let's

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stay on on the groups that are actually going into Canada. Yes.

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Speaker 2: So it's funny because if you think about the conversation

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you're allowed to have in America, I found that, for example,

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like you had just pointed out, I think mass migration

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was the fulcrum issue of the last election. And I'm

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a great fan of Marco Popics. He wrote this book

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called Jeoe Plugoff, but he says every election hinges on

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one central issue and people pretend it's a lot, but

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it's really not. And the winners decided by who actually

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addresses that issue. And in both instances, Donald Trump was

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the only one, even in his first election, the only

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one who even brought up mass migration. And you're actually

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seeing the same thing in Canada, where mass migration is

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pretty much what everybody's talking about, and the election will

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go to whatever politician actually addressed is that and pretends

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and doesn't pretend. Rather that's not existing, and so the

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Conservatives will not be that group, so you know, everyone

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wants Basically, you're seeing a level of I won't call

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it hatred, but I'll say disgust towards this one group

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of Indians in Canada. You're seeing liberals just in Conservatives,

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you're seeing independence all kind of chanting the same thing,

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like these people have got to fucking go. So and

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I would have never predicted that could happen.

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Speaker 1: I think my comment was growing up up up north,

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and you know knowing Canadians and then living in South

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Florida and living in a building full of Canadians, mostly

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Quebec Cua, though mostly Quebec people, and was these are

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nice people, and they genuinely are nice people. Even the

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people from Quebec can be very nice. But wow, it

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took pajeets in order to make them racist. That must

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be a terrible There has to be something about this group.

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Speaker 2: Of people, and it's people speaking of it in a

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way that you or I might where at one time

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it would be couched in just the economics of the situation,

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but now you're seeing regular people like I find these

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people annoying and they stink and I don't like them. Men, women, young, Oh,

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it's things you would never believe. So that's interesting, just

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like you're seeing in America. But the Canadian story is

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a bit different because we're very similar to America in

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the sense that multiculturalism is seen as the apex value

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to have. But in Canada, especially with the Trudeau regime,

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and I know Jean has some comments on this as well.

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how this paradigm we exist in Canada, of that we

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are a post nation state, and we are a multi

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cultural state and we always have been. That's the narrative

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you're brought up in school. You're raised on that. I

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was raised on that. I live in Ontario, but it's

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not like that everywhere. Quebec's have a different you know.

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doesn't have its roots back hundreds of years. There is

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no real melting pot mythology. Everything in Canada's happened pretty recently.

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So if you are sixty seventy eighty years old, you

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can remember a time before all this. But it's the

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children who are like, well, we're the only thing you're

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allowed to be in Canada in terms of identity is multiculturalist,

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and we want to investigate why is that? How did

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that happen? Because it wasn't always that case and the

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recent mass migration has really shaken people out of that.

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And I think it's gotten people asking questions that I've

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never seen the mask before.

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Speaker 1: It's like I said, living in South Florida, you do

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have access to a lot of people from Canada, so

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you get to hear stories from Canada. I mean, I

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shared a building with people who like the building was

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half the year was empty. And it wasn't all people

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from Quebec. It was a lot of people from Ontario too,

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And I would ask them about the politics. I mean,

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this is twenty years ago, and the politics was always like, oh,

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you know, free health care out of out of this

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and you know, and it always came. It was always economics,

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and it was always you know, we love our country,

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come down here just to get away from the weather.

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We're getting older, our bones can't take it anymore, so

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you know, we spend it. But it was never about

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the culture was always like the selling point. The culture

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was always like, I mean, everything's clean, everything's perfect, everything,

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you know, it's harmonious, we have no problems. And even

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though even back then you did have a multicultural aspect,

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but the multicultural aspect was I think at that point

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it was mostly Europeans and then some Chinese were starting

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to We're starting to really get in there.

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Speaker 2: By multiculture is like, oh, we have a China town.

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Isn't that fun to kind of wander through? And Sean

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correct me if I'm wrong here. But when I my

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co host Judas, he made a fun point that he

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was brought up hearing the term the Great White North,

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and I had said, well, that's because of all the

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snow and it's cold. He said, oh, I thought it

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was just because it was full of white people. He

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actually thought that, And I'm like, but that was true.

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It's like when people say, oh, Switzerland is so safe

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and so clean and everything, but what the implicit comment

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there is that when you imagine a Swiss person, what

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do you imagine is just a clean European place. And

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I think Canada enjoyed that for a long time, although

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not outwardly stated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm in I'm in my early thirties,

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and you know, even I can say that growing up

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the city that I lived in, it was almost all

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exclusively white. There were a couple of neighborhoods that had

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historically been black, or been South Asian, so East Indian,

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paget whatever we want to call it. But now you

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see these types of people everywhere, and people have come

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face to face with the realities of groups not mixing

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to the tune of you know, how is getting shot

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up due to extortion rackets. Many videos of Indian students

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and temporary foreign workers speaking in Punjabi telling people that

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when they immigrate they should be using food banks, you know.

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So these kind of things just they're beyond distasteful and

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people do have a reaction to it. I mean, the

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middle class in Canada was very comfortable for a time. Obviously,

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the single income family hasn't been a reality for a

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long time, but middle class typically, you know, women, especially

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in the last couple decades, could work from home, or

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they could work part time, or they could have cushy

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administrative office jobs. I can speak from experience and say

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that two of my coworkers' wives who had these types

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of jobs have been laid off in the last six

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months because their jobs have been exported over to India.

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And so at a time when you have record inflation,

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especially when it comes to things like groceries, for people

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to then have their comfortable lives completely displaced because their

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wives are no longer having this second income is another

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thing that are hitting people who are you know, ostensibly libtards,

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but they're now again faced with the harsh realities of

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these things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it starts with the economic issue, and I've made

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a point recently that most Canadians are not truly prepared

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to have an economic conversation like you are in the US,

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and even in the UK there's not a lot of

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discussion on trade, but the fact that nobody can really

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afford a house reasonably. You know, you got the sort

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of platonic ideal of what we think and the economics

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of it should be, which is, oh, a man should

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be able to support a family on a single income

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and the wife should be able to stay at home

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and raise the kids.

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Speaker 1: That's the ideal.

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Speaker 2: We're so far from that that people can not even

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afford a house with dual incomes, and so that's that's

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a lived reality that people are dealing with, and that's

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how the Indian question gets brought up because you don't

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need mass migration. All the arguments that we're familiar with,

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like there is no economic benefit to any of this

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that has made its way to the mainstream, and so

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that's one of the reasons we produced that little video,

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which was to put a mainstream friendly face forward because

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there's you know, in the Canadian context, there's not a

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lot of content or media out there that just explains

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this stuff. If you look out Google, if you look

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on YouTube, there's no resources that just explain the story.

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And we thought that was fascinating, so we went into

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it and the whole purpose was to show, Okay, how

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did we get here? Who was responsible? Because it's a

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very narrow window of time. There's only a handful of people,

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bureaucrats and politicians who clandestinely, with their own machinations, tried

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to make Canada the way it is. And what's interesting,

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and this is the theme of the documentary, is that

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we have access to all the public opinion polls at

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the time, because they will try and tell you that, oh,

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this is what your ancestors voted for, this was what

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they're on the side of. But if you look at

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the opinion polls Canadians at the time, right up until

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you present day, they were very clearplicit that not only

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were they no in favor of mass migration, they didn't

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even use those ters, but they just they didn't understand

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the need for immigration period. And that's what I always

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forties and fifties and if someone asked you, are you

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in favor of immigration? They have not been propagandized with

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the narrative that it's an economic benefit, so to them

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it would just be a preposterous question. Why do we

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need it?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: That doesn't even make sense? Why so no, of course not,

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there actually is no benefit, and then over time people

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end up propaganda as well. We need it because who's

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going to pay taxes? And how are we going to

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have universal healthcare and all that stuff. But it's so

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clear that the public didn't want this, and yet it

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happened anyway. So the unfortunate story is one that populism

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is not effective at the polls, which is something a

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lot of people here would into it. But it's very

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very clear that no one wanted it, and it happened anyway.

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So you really necessarily vote your way out of this.

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Speaker 3: I think it's interesting to oh, sorry, go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Can I yeah? Can I ask you? Finished your comment?

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But can you talk a little bit about when the started,

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like when, like specifically when the push for mass what

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we would call mass immigration what we would call today

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weaponized immigration into Canada started.

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Speaker 3: Sure, Just to respond to Dime's point very briefly, I

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think it's interesting to say that the only time the

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Canadian government actually took a widespread sample of Canadian opinion

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in nineteen seventy three with regards to immigration. It was

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shut down, It was halted very quickly, and most of

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those public meetings were just taken over by communists who

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disrupted everything. And the Canadian government made it very clear

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that if they had any kind of anti immigration brief,

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they were going to dismiss it as quote unquote irrational.

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And this is something that we cover in the documentary.

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In terms of the documentary as a whole, though, what

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we cover is the years nineteen forty seven, so the

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postwar years up to nineteen seventy six, which is when

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we had a new immigration act under Trudeau Senior, that

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is Pierre Trudeau. To speak to your answer about when

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it started, I mean Canadian immigration generally is very limited.

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I mean you see two periods of immigration that could

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be described as significant, from let's say seventeen eighty three

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to the early eighteen hundreds and then maybe like eighteen

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thirty one to eighteen fifty. And then there's another push

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for immigration prior to World War One, from let's say

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like eighteen ninety six to probably nineteen eleven, and that

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was to settle the Prairies. So all of this was

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all this is to say that you know, there was

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a need to settle the Prairies. But besides that, there

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wasn't really any mass immigration or what we could speak

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of as mass immigration. But after World War Two there

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was an impetus to kind of fight you know, racism,

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and so this is where you saw international pressure from

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the United Nations onto Canada. And our Prime minister at

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the time was Mackenzie King, and he was very clear

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about being against mass immigration from even Europe, but especially

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anything coming from China. And in nineteen forty seven he

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gave a speech saying we're not going to permit any

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mass immigration to Canada. If we do have refugees, it's

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going to be a very limited thing. But just a

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few days later his administration started what was at that

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time the largest refugee initiative in Canadian history, which brought

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it approximately one hundred and sixty five thousand people over

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the next six years, which at that time was a

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very remarkable number. So it started right after World War Two.

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The international pressure ramped up in nineteen forty eight against

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the subsequent administration, which was run by one Louis Saint Laurent,

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and that was because of the United Nations Declaration of

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Universal Human Rights or whatever. The acronym IS and so

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this whole thing started because of external pressure from the

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United Nations, but as Dimes talked about, the ideology behind

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this kind of permeated into our elites in the fifties

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and in the sixties. So, I mean, I can speak

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more about that if you want, or we can stop there.

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Speaker 1: I would just say that I just looked it up

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and you mentioned what was it, one hundred and sixty

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five thousand.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe that's the number that's hop stop my.

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Speaker 1: Hand something like that. Canada's population in nineteen fifty was

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thirteen point seven million, So you're basically talking about like

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one percent, right, the equivalent of one percent of the population.

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I mean, you're talking about a cultural shift that one

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percent can make, and that one percent isn't going to stop.

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We know that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And the exact same groups that we've been pushing

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this in America were present in Canada. So you can

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list a number of groups. There's the NGOs, there's communists

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and leftists and progressives. Then there's you know, no shortage

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of you know, Jewish groups involved as well. Like this

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is all the post war was it? The postwar consensus?

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That's the thing we're calling it now. This was the

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postwar consensus manifest in Canada, and as you can imagine,

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there's so many bureaucrats and politicians who were trying to

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ingratiate Canada and just like many countries were, to the

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new global order, with thought, well, this is the price

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you have to pay, and this is something that and

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I think this is only expanded over time that we

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don't really have much else to bring to the table

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aside from sheer enthusiasm and try to be the vanguards

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of that sort of multicultural progressivism. And that's why so

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many Canadians are brought up believing that, you know, we

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define ourselves against Americans. Not all of us, but a

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lot of Canadians do. Like Americans. They're backwards, they're blood Heites,

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but we are more enlightened, you know, We're more tolerance.

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Tolerance is a worthy hear a lot up here. So

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with that comes the baggage if you don't even need

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to like it, but you must tolerate it, and therein

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lies your strength. But also because Canada is encouraged to

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be a multicultural patchwork, sort of a polyglot boarding house,

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you don't have as many efforts for integration as America,

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there's no mythology of the melting pot. So what you

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have is these ethnic enclaves that are very objectively set

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up and almost encouraged, and so over time, you know,

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if that's kept on a minimal scale, you know, people

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don't care as long as the homogeneous population is dominant.

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But as those begin to grow, as you're seeing with

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the Sikhs or the Six as they're like to be called,

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and the Indians and then even more Chinese. Like, that's

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the other theater of this that a lot of people

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don't even want to talk about because there's ideological reasons.

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People feel like if you complain about China, then you're

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playing to the neo con narrative. But in Canada specifically,

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we have a real problem with Chinese migration in through

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the West Coast and BC, and they're responsible.

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Speaker 1: For even even in Toronto. I remember, like ten years

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ago I was reading some report where someone was actually

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someone who lives in Toronto was actually commenting it's like

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why am I working? Like why am I working my

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job in busting my ass? And my wife has to

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work in order to support ourselves, and there are these

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Chinese who are driving around in like one hundred thousand

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dollars Mercedes. Yeah, so who are these people? This doesn't

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that doesn't sound like someone who oh the old Jewish troupe. Oh,

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we just came here and worked hard, and five years

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later we bought the town of Hartford, Connecticut.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. You've never seen a Chice person work hard. You

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just never seen it. They're just there in shiny suits

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already because a lot that Again, this is what people

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don't want to acknowledge. We don't really get to this

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in the documentary, but it is important. Sam Cooper is

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a Canadian journalist who's really on the forefront of this

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and showing how. And there's another book called Willful Blindness.

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Those two he's got closet the pay and that is

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one by and then Wilfel Blindness, and it shows how

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the Chinese Communist Party works hand in glove with the Triads,

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which are gangs, but they control the fentanyl production in

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factories in China and their response with the lion's share

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of fentanyl imports all throughout North America. And this was

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the case in the nineties, that's even the case now.

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And so you're seeing BC as a landing pad for

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basically for these Chinese fucking gangs and these gambling whales.

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Speaker 3: Just to be clear too, like the Chinese thing is

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an ongoing problem. And we had the Chinese Exclusion Act

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put in place, I believe in nineteen twenty two, and

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it was repealed in the late forties again due to

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the same international pressure that made us accept all these

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refugees and change our regulations. So it is the same.

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Speaker 2: Source absolutely, And this is a real political problem for

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us up here. Like this isn't just oh, we don't

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like Chinese culture. I think that be that as it may.

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You're having you know, Chinese nationals who are running for

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municipal government. You're having vast swathes of land bought up

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by Chinese business interests, like they're controlling the political structure

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in a lot of very key areas. And that's just

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the beginning of the problems, and no one really knows

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how to address it. And there's this, you know, I

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don't have the documents in front of me, but there

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are rumors that of the Five Eyes unification of our

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intelligence agencies like the CIA, we have ceases up here,

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ours is seen as the most inept, like we should

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not have let this happen. Someone at the highest level

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of our intelligence community either drop the ball or is

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in the pocket of these forces. And again, people don't

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like to touch this because they think ideologically or geopolitically,

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you shouldn't fall for the demonization of China. But like,

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it's different in Canada. There are foreign power players out there.

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It's not just America. The Great Satan is the bad guy.

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I'm like, China does have designs to take shit over,

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make no mistake, And I think you people we ignore

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that at our peril.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, because the it's been set up that it's

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like you said, you're a neocon. If you start talking

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about that, oh, you just want to you're just buying

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into neo kon talking points. We have to go to war,

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the pivots to China, the pivots to China. It's like,

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there can be a real problem with China, and you

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don't want to. And your concerns aren't the same as

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some neocons or some you know, you know, Steve Bannon

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whatever he's bought into.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's not because they're evil, it's not even

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because they're communists. If you just look at this from

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a neo realist perspective, sort of like John Meerscheimer's offensive

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realism school thought, Like they are looking out for their

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own interests the same way as America, the same way

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as Russia. All these big players are looking for their

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own interest They will take an edge where they can

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get it. That's all it is. You don't even need

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to necessarily hate them to believe that. Well, of course

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they will take advantage where they can, and it would

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behoove us. And this is the story of what Canada

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is dealing with. That's why America is so concerned with

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Canadian sovereignty and why Trump is pressuring Canada so much,

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in my opinion, to keep up our end of the

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defense of that pact, because Arctic sovereignty is a big deal.

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Does Canada have the internal defense infrastructure to project power

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within its own borders to achieve the dominance over the

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Arctic region for North American interests. That's really what Trump

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wants to know. That's what Norad is basically, And you know,

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maybe we don't. Maybe our defense infrastructure is kind of

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lacking right now, and that's a real problem for China,

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for Russia. Again, you don't need to hate them, but

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this is just geopolitic.

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Speaker 1: Well, one of the things that I took away from

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the short documentary is, I mean it's like every single

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time it's the phrase, every single time. How did these

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I mean, from what I understand, like right now, less

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than one percent of the population of Canada is Jewish?

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How did these people get elected? Where did they come from?

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I mean, I could understand NGOs, but you had people

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in there who were in on the inside, let you know,

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and people want to say, oh, well, you know, why

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are you noticing this? Why is it? It's like because

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it's one percent of the population, It's like here it's

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two point four percent of the population. But whenever you

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see something happening where you're like, wait a minute, that

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might not be good for us, there's a couple of

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them right there like leading it or thought leading it

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or financing it, and it's like, well, what the is

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going on here?

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Speaker 3: I mean, when it comes to that question, in Canada,

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at least, most of that came through labor organizations and

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civil rights organizations, which were almost exclusively fronts for communist agitation,

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and Canada had a history of dealing with this, especially

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in Quebec. There's a premiere a duplus C who passed

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something called the Padlock Law and I think nineteen twenty seven,

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and that base said that if you were operating any

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kind of communist organization out of a building, then that

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building was liable to get taken over by the government.

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You would be locked out of your building if you

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were using it for communist stuff. And so again, the

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labor organizations, left wing political parties such as the CCF

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and then Labor literally later the Labor Progressive Party. These

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were all places where Jewish people would agitate from and

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specifically what they were agitating for was political rights for communists.

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But then after that kind of died down, they started

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working on egalitarian rights. And you know, in the forties,

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the Canadian Jewish Congress was a famous ally of the

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intern Japanese people. So they also, as they do it elsewhere,

476
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allied with other disaffected quote unquote marginalized groups to form

477
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,240
power blocks and then agitate against the government. And especially

478
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in the wake of World War Two, when you know,

479
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people were it was not in vogue anymore to be

480
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anti Semitic, that was a good way for them to

481
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start really taking over things. I mean, yeah, sorry, I

482
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can stop it there, I've got it.

483
00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: No, I want to say, it's the exact same tactics

484
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,880
you would see in America and elsewhere. They're agitating with

485
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,759
the exact same groups, with the exact same post war

486
00:27:11,799 --> 00:27:15,640
consensus narrative that you must be anti racist and anti fascists,

487
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,160
let us be in charge of this thing. And you don't.

488
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,319
You don't want to be like the Nazis, do you,

489
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and so open the floodgates.

490
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when you look at the numbers. At

491
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the end of World War Two, Canada's population was twelve million,

492
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twelve milly million people, and they're already they're agitating. It's

493
00:27:38,599 --> 00:27:42,039
when did was Canada under the crown already at that

494
00:27:42,079 --> 00:27:44,559
time nineteen five?

495
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Speaker 3: I mean we had confederation in eighteen sixty seven. I

496
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mean technically the British Crown still had their fingers in

497
00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:55,480
things until nineteen eighty two, when the Constitution Act was

498
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,680
amended so that Canada could change its own constitution. I mean,

499
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we've always had a we still have a Governor General,

500
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,200
which is someone who's appointed by Britain, and they have

501
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,480
to give a cent to all of our legislation stuff.

502
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:09,359
I'm not sure you can you be more specific with

503
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the question. I'm not sure exactly what.

504
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Speaker 2: You mean, because it is we're still technically under the

505
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crown in a lot of ways, but maybe not as

506
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directly back then.

507
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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I was just thinking because in nineteen

508
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at the end of the war, when you look at

509
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like mass immigration into what they call the wind Rush

510
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,440
generation into England, they brought they started bringing the boast

511
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to started bringing the Jamaicans in. I mean, that was them,

512
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That was that certain group who was responsible for that.

513
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And I was just wondering because Canada, you know, is

514
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obviously still has influence from Britain. I was wondering if

515
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that was the same thing. It was just like, well,

516
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if we're doing it here, we're going to do it

517
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in all of our provinces, all of our territories and

518
00:28:55,519 --> 00:28:57,440
our Yeah, as well, that's.

519
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Speaker 3: A great question. Okay, So I can kind of answer

520
00:28:59,839 --> 00:29:02,240
your question, but I can also really answer your question,

521
00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:03,720
maybe just in a little bit of a different way

522
00:29:03,759 --> 00:29:09,039
than you were thinking. So the Commonwealth idea is a

523
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:12,680
big part of the nineteen sixty two Order and Council

524
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passed by the deefen Baker government under Minister Ellen Fairklaud

525
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and her deputy George Davidson, which eliminated almost all racial

526
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:26,359
restrictions from Third world immigration. And that was directly influenced

527
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by the Commonwealth because deefen Baker, who's a conservative, was

528
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obsessed with the Commonwealth. And we have a couple of

529
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,720
clips in the documentary where he discusses the Commonwealth and saying,

530
00:29:35,759 --> 00:29:38,400
you know, we have different religions, we have different races,

531
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we have different creeds, but we're all the same people.

532
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And that was the impetus to start bringing in Yes

533
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:50,359
to Jamaican's Indians, especially in the nineteen sixties. And deefen

534
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,519
Baker is obsessed not only with the Commonwealth but also

535
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with anti racism. And then that was motivated by some

536
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,519
exclusions that he felt as a child because he was

537
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:04,240
German and he saw Ukrainians face similar difficulties in the

538
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,960
Prairie provinces in which he grew up because of the

539
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,720
interment of those folks in World War One. So again

540
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:13,319
you had this conservative Commonwealth guy who had a chip

541
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:15,599
on his shoulder because of some experiences he had as

542
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,839
a child, and he said, okay, we have to eliminate

543
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race from the census. He didn't pass that but he

544
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:21,759
said that he would have liked to have done that.

545
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We need to open up the floodgates, and I'm going

546
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to use the Commonwealth and our British history as the

547
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reason that we have to do this. So that was

548
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in a way central to his ideology. I don't know

549
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if that kind of answers your question.

550
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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it just it just seems like it's whenever

551
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you look at any period since World War Two, any

552
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area where mass immigration has affected the effect of the culture,

553
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:56,200
and it really started like a slide down in the

554
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imogeneity or you know how coherence of culture can be,

555
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,279
it seems like there's always one one group of people,

556
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or you know, if it is like an organization, the

557
00:31:08,119 --> 00:31:10,599
representative of it is from one group of people. So,

558
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,039
I mean, it just it's I catch crap for this

559
00:31:14,119 --> 00:31:17,279
all the time, but how can you just not help

560
00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:20,039
but notice that, Yeah, this small.

561
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 2: Group, you know, and they do it, like I said,

562
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,680
the same way every single time, because you don't need

563
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:29,400
a central committee around the globe to do this. All

564
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,759
you need to do and Jean described it very well there,

565
00:31:32,799 --> 00:31:35,799
which is that first they you have this idea of immigration.

566
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People don't like immigration, but they kind of have this

567
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,000
implicit belief that they don't want certain people because you're

568
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:46,119
dealing with Europeans here, especially Anglo stock, and they're not

569
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,240
outrageous about it, like it takes them a lot to

570
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:53,720
state that they just hate a specific type of people

571
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:55,599
they'd rather not have to deal with that. Let it

572
00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:59,480
be implied. But they first attack that, you know, prejudice

573
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,000
by saying, well, why not this type of immigration? You

574
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,759
like immigration, don't you don't hate everyone who's not you?

575
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:07,519
And you're like, oh no, Like it's the culture of

576
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:10,319
critique that we talk about. You can needle these sorts

577
00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:12,599
of things into reality so it doesn't need to be

578
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,599
a sweeping thing. It's like, well, you like this, then

579
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,680
you must like this, otherwise you're a hypocrite. You don't

580
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,319
want to be a hypocrite to you. And you say, okay,

581
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,680
I guess, but within reason, And that's a fascinating word

582
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,359
if you've ever and no one watching this has probably

583
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,039
done this, but we did this on our show a

584
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:31,920
while ago, going through the Canadian Constitution and going through

585
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,240
the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, which is nothing

586
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:39,200
like the Bill of Rights or nothing like the Constitution,

587
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:45,000
which is very narrow and very explicitly clear, and that's better.

588
00:32:45,119 --> 00:32:51,079
Once you have these very legalistic, labyrinthine constitutions, you can

589
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:53,119
weasle your way to anything. So you see the word

590
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:56,960
reasonable pop up a lot, like you have certain rights

591
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,279
within reason, and of course that what is within reason

592
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,920
that's left up the judges, that's left up the politicians.

593
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That's very few hard. I don't think there's a single

594
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right we have in Canada that's not open to some

595
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,720
kind of smudge interpretation at the time if they just

596
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:14,599
deem that you don't like it, so yeah, oh yeah,

597
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:17,279
we like the immigration within reason, and what what within

598
00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:20,799
reason means changes over time to now just means everyone.

599
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,400
It's very easy to just wedge that wide open, and

600
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like we had said, it happened in a very short

601
00:33:26,359 --> 00:33:29,599
window of time unless you're very very explicit about no,

602
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:34,480
we don't want this group for this reason. But like

603
00:33:34,519 --> 00:33:37,240
we'd said, there's this one group, you know, Jewish groups

604
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,960
and geo's that are involved at every level, also within

605
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:45,119
the Communist Party. But then there's just the liberal status

606
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,519
quo that does not have the tools to repel that

607
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,759
sort of inquiry. And that's really what's happened.

608
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Speaker 1: Around the world.

609
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Speaker 2: Liberalism does not have the toolbox to actually answer this question.

610
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So it always says, okay, I guess why not. Can't

611
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,279
be a hypocrite and now you have infinity somalis.

612
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Speaker 1: That sounds well right to me? Can I just say

613
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:12,199
that well right to me? Sorry, it's okaya woke right, Yeah,

614
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,519
that sounds well great, John.

615
00:34:15,039 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, like with the Jewish connection,

616
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:19,639
you had said, rightly, Pete, that we have less than

617
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:24,079
one percent of a Jewish population in Canada. But the

618
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,360
thing is they might not have the out and out

619
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,280
power in terms of control of the media and the

620
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,239
banks and other things that they do in the States.

621
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,280
But you have to understand that any American power is

622
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,719
projected onto Canada until in terms of multinationals or groups

623
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,039
like Van Guarden, Black Rock Holding, you know, the largest

624
00:34:41,079 --> 00:34:43,800
amount of mutual funds in our big five Canadian banks.

625
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,239
So it's not like necessarily Jews here, but it's a

626
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,559
lot of American Jews that hold sway in Canada. And

627
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,519
another thing that Jewish groups are good at doing is

628
00:34:52,559 --> 00:34:56,199
influencing the right people. So I spoke about Deef and Baker.

629
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One of Deef and Baker's big things was an adverse

630
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,920
react he had to the Gazanco affair, which was some

631
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,960
people say the outset of the Cold War, where it

632
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,840
was a big spiring was discovered because of the Soviet

633
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:12,239
defector Igor Gazanko. And of the seventeen people that were

634
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,960
ultimately rounded up, six of them were Jewish and two

635
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,639
of them were married to Jews. And one of the

636
00:35:16,639 --> 00:35:18,360
people who was married to Jews, his name was Raymond

637
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,360
I think Boye. He was a quebec Qua guy and

638
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,920
he like attended synagogue. He gave up his uh well,

639
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,119
he renounced his Catholic heritage and stuff. And when those

640
00:35:26,199 --> 00:35:30,000
Jewish people were prosecuted, Diefenbaker himself saw it as an

641
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:35,519
egregious amount of government overstepping into the personal rights of people.

642
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:39,559
So there's that, I think more significantly, also, we've done

643
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:43,880
some research into Pierre Trudeau, and Pierre Trudeau is seen

644
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,199
as like our nation's modern father. He single handedly instituted

645
00:35:48,199 --> 00:35:50,800
the policy of multiculturalism.

646
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,199
Speaker 1: As isn't he.

647
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. I think that that's a fair analogy.

648
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,079
And you know, he grew up as a quebec Qua nationalist.

649
00:35:57,119 --> 00:35:59,519
He attended anti Semitic rallies. He wrote a play called

650
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:02,679
Lidu in high school, which was making fun of quebec

651
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,159
Qua people who decided to buy from Jewish merchants as

652
00:36:07,159 --> 00:36:11,679
opposed to Francophones. But he ended up going to Harvard

653
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,000
in forty six forty seven. He then Sorry and then

654
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,559
in Harvard he was taught by mostly Jewish professors. He

655
00:36:19,639 --> 00:36:23,480
became quite enamored with the book Levia Theme I think

656
00:36:23,559 --> 00:36:25,800
is what it's called, which is about, you know, the

657
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,599
Nazi regime and how bad it was. It was one

658
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:31,320
of the early books of that nature. And then he

659
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,440
went to Paris where he became part of a group

660
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,039
of psychoanalysis, so you know, the whole Freudian thing. And

661
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:42,039
then he finished his post secondary education under the tutelage

662
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:46,159
of one Jewish stalinist, Harold Laski at the London School

663
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:49,079
of Economics. So again this was a very prominent elite

664
00:36:49,119 --> 00:36:52,159
gentleman who had his views totally flipped around at the

665
00:36:52,199 --> 00:36:56,519
tail end of his youth because of various Jewish intellectuals,

666
00:36:56,639 --> 00:36:59,519
and he continued to meet to name, Harold Laski is

667
00:36:59,519 --> 00:37:02,840
one of his lasting influences even into the seventies and eighties.

668
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,400
So it's not something that left him, you know.

669
00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: Yeah.

670
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Speaker 2: And also another thing is if you look at the

671
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,920
story of multiculturalism, you'll read these sources where Jewish groups

672
00:37:11,039 --> 00:37:14,760
pride themselves on being the vanguard of this thing. They

673
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,119
will credit themselves being like, we were the ones who

674
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:21,079
pushed multiculturalism. So, you know, you can be afraid of

675
00:37:21,119 --> 00:37:23,519
being deemed anti Semitic for saying this, But I'm like,

676
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,840
I'm just quoting Jews. I'm just talking. I'm taking them

677
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,199
at their word. They seem to think they were instrumental

678
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:30,440
in this.

679
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of the things is once you realize

680
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,760
that that's happening, you're only allowed to celebrate it and

681
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,039
not criticize it. Yeah.

682
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 2: I always said that my favorite and we've gotten you know,

683
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,039
our YouTube channel bands like twice, I think three times

684
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:51,480
in the past for doing this. But I always would

685
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,280
jokingly say that most of the books on this question

686
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,480
that I cite are written by Jews.

687
00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: There's this amazing.

688
00:37:59,559 --> 00:38:02,039
Speaker 2: Video that I did with The Prudentialist, a friend of

689
00:38:02,039 --> 00:38:04,880
mine who's on this book titled about what Went Wrong.

690
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,880
It was written by a Jewish man. I think it

691
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,679
was a rabbi who wrote it, but it was about

692
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:12,719
the breakdown of the Jewish Black alliance in America. It's

693
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,320
this huge historical tone that goes like right from the

694
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,920
end of slavery up until I think like the seventies,

695
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:20,880
and he's just describing that. Basically the story is that

696
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,559
blacks never liked Jews, but Jews were always exploiting blacks

697
00:38:24,559 --> 00:38:28,280
for their own political ends. Or this other great book

698
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:33,559
called Jewish Power by JJ Goldberg pousively reviewed by the

699
00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:39,079
former Prime Minister of Israel, bestseller, mainstream book, and it

700
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,840
says basically everything you would find in anything from Kevin

701
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,880
MacDonald's Culture of Critique, any of that stuff, same thing.

702
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:50,719
Basically admitted everything you've heard about all these Jewish NGOs,

703
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,119
Like he says, yep, we have like over three hundred

704
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,199
and the only difference is, and this is what they're

705
00:38:57,199 --> 00:39:01,440
saying Canada, is that we did it because when Europeans

706
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,679
are in charge, Jews suffer.

707
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,159
Speaker 1: So you deserve it.

708
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:07,800
Speaker 2: You know, we have to control the media, we have

709
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,199
to control politics, otherwise you would kill us.

710
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:11,280
Speaker 1: And so it's justified.

711
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 2: That's from the book. So I'm like, okay, my can't

712
00:39:14,519 --> 00:39:17,119
do I get in trouble for quoting this book kind

713
00:39:17,159 --> 00:39:20,199
of you know, doesn't stop them from fucking banning us

714
00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:20,800
so many times.

715
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:30,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm it's you can't solve a problem unless you

716
00:39:30,559 --> 00:39:33,800
can figure out who's doing it, you know, and you

717
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,360
have to be able to say who's doing it. Yeah,

718
00:39:36,639 --> 00:39:40,079
if if it's if it's a Chinese, you're allowed to say, oh,

719
00:39:40,119 --> 00:39:42,599
it's a Chinese, and then you're allowed to be like, okay,

720
00:39:42,639 --> 00:39:46,360
and it's this Chinese individual. Hey, this person was a

721
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,559
chauffeur for one of our senators here and they're Chinese

722
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:55,119
and that's their name. But you're not because of you know,

723
00:39:55,199 --> 00:39:58,519
some something that happened before any of us were born

724
00:39:59,559 --> 00:40:02,840
or a lot of apparently we're not allowed to call

725
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,840
anyone out by name from that tribe because you know,

726
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,960
then all of a sudden, you know, six million of

727
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,000
them are in peril. Yeah.

728
00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: And one thing that we tried to and I know

729
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,239
John has done this throughout this conversation, it's to say

730
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:19,280
that what we're sitting at a car crash intersection of

731
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,039
many different problems, and in our space especially, we always

732
00:40:23,039 --> 00:40:27,400
debate over what the principal problem is, like, Oh, it's

733
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,840
Jews causing this. Oh it's not Jews, it's actually liberalism

734
00:40:31,039 --> 00:40:33,199
as an ideology. Oh no, it's not that, it's really

735
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,239
the Enlightenment. Oh it's really atheism. Oh it's really women.

736
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,679
And would say, well, actually, it's all those things at once,

737
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,920
and they play off of each other, and each one

738
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,840
of these needs to be identified and addressed as its

739
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,920
own thing. But we kind of get wrapped up in

740
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:51,599
this sort of Cartesian framework where everything flows from one

741
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:54,440
and you could say this group is involved in a

742
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,199
lot of this, which is true. But then it did explain,

743
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,320
like I said, it presented questions to the liberal order

744
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,320
that liberalism could not answer. Okay, so we must address

745
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,079
that inherent flaw in liberalism perhaps, and then we must address,

746
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,840
you know, what is a Canadian identity? Because one problem

747
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,159
they were able to exploit was that is there any

748
00:41:17,199 --> 00:41:20,960
sort of internal consistency with Canadan identity? You know, one

749
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,920
of the things that separates Canada from the US is

750
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,719
that I think there is a permanent bifurcation between Anglo

751
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,840
and Franco Anglophone Francophone Canada. And you're never going to

752
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,280
resolve that, and it is what it is, and there's

753
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,280
no melting boton, so you're always going to have these

754
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,639
this collection of identities. If you look at the red

755
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,880
ensign symbols sort of the shield and the red ends,

756
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,679
and it's several identities bounce in one sort of commonwealth.

757
00:41:47,079 --> 00:41:48,960
It's like, okay, but what can we do with that?

758
00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:51,880
What is a Canadan identity? Because if you don't have

759
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,800
an answer for that, then multiculturalism is easy to blossom

760
00:41:57,159 --> 00:41:59,800
in that total void, which is what happens. So it's

761
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,159
like we have to address all of these things at once.

762
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:05,119
And then the fact that you know, women seem to

763
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:07,159
be on the side, what do we do about them.

764
00:42:07,199 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: You know, we're not going to.

765
00:42:08,159 --> 00:42:10,519
Speaker 2: Get into all these problems today, but you know, one

766
00:42:10,519 --> 00:42:14,760
thing we try and address is, you know, there's exploitations

767
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,719
for many different inputs right now. And as John correctly said,

768
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,199
we have you know, the funny thing about the Canadian

769
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:26,199
Anti Hate Network, that's our version of you know, like

770
00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:30,079
like the anti FU group, that's what's what's the SPLC.

771
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,880
So our version is called the Anti can Anty. They're

772
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,079
the ones who direct ANTIPA to get people fired. It's

773
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,559
really just two people in the room. However, they modeled

774
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:42,119
themselves after you know, the American Jewish Congress, after the SPLC.

775
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:45,760
They said, all, we'll start that here. So one of

776
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,840
the issues of candadate is always just taking these like

777
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:52,039
echoes from America and doing our version of that here

778
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:56,079
and having American money funnel in, not to blame Americans,

779
00:42:56,079 --> 00:42:59,920
but to blame these groups internationally with just setting out

780
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:01,159
posts up in Canada.

781
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,559
Speaker 3: I mean, Calvin Kaplanski was one of the most famous

782
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:06,840
Jewish operators when it came to this stuff. He operated

783
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,679
under the Jewish Labor Committee, which was a prominent labor union,

784
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,679
but he put boys in places of note so that

785
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,480
he could kind of hide what he was doing because,

786
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:18,920
you know, because of anti Semitism. He didn't want to

787
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,480
do it himself because then, you know, there would have

788
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,480
been an anti Semitic backlash. But he was funded. His

789
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,760
JLC group was funded by the American JLC out of

790
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,159
New York, and that's where his subordinates were trained, you know,

791
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,880
just to give an example of that American thing.

792
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:39,079
Speaker 1: Interesting, let's talk about this. So I was talking to

793
00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:41,960
someone recently from Canada and they were saying that, like

794
00:43:42,039 --> 00:43:45,119
a city like Brampton, which is what would you consider

795
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:46,320
that a suburb of Toronto?

796
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,119
Speaker 2: I would what every time I've gone there. It's like Mississauga,

797
00:43:51,199 --> 00:43:53,360
I think of suburbs, Jehan, have you been there? Like,

798
00:43:53,679 --> 00:43:55,280
I guess it is its own city though.

799
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 3: Right, I'm from out west. I never been there.

800
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: So, like the population is supposed to be like seven

801
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,320
hundred and fifty thousand or something like that. And you know,

802
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,320
he told me he's like twenty years ago it was

803
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,119
ninety five percent white. He goes, and now the population

804
00:44:11,639 --> 00:44:15,840
is more than fifty percent, like well over fifty percent Indian.

805
00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:20,119
Speaker 2: That's that's true. And so like Brampton is right beside

806
00:44:20,159 --> 00:44:23,519
Mississauga as well. Mississauga for many many years has been

807
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:28,239
mostly Muslim and Arab, so that whole section over a

808
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,599
very short amount of time flipped to be brown. And

809
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:33,880
if you grew up, how fast?

810
00:44:34,039 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah? How fast? So that's what I want to talking about.

811
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,480
How fast does something like that happen?

812
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: Using Brampton and Mississauga as just personal anecdotes, like I

813
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,840
think it was within one generation at the very least,

814
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,280
maybe even shorter, maybe within ten years, but it happened,

815
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,519
Like I remember in my youth Mississauga just being like

816
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,679
Mississauga is like a suburb of Toronto. They're both outside

817
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,320
of part of what's called the GTA Great Toronto Area,

818
00:44:57,679 --> 00:45:00,880
So people would just live in Mississauga and then commute

819
00:45:01,159 --> 00:45:03,880
into downtown Toronto. So it was just you know, a suburb,

820
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,960
and then that just became filled with brown immigrants. And

821
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,119
it happened very fast, to the point we didn't even

822
00:45:12,199 --> 00:45:15,039
know how it was happened, like how are these things

823
00:45:15,039 --> 00:45:18,440
being funded? And the spigots are being controlled in India,

824
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:22,840
they're being controlled also by academias well bringing in these students.

825
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:28,360
But yeah, Brampton in short order became dominated by Indians

826
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,920
to the point where you know, you've probably read the

827
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,840
story where they erected something was like a thirty foot

828
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,559
statue Hanuman. Yes, that's right of one of their Like

829
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:41,639
it sounds racist when I say, but it's a monkey. God,

830
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,159
it's a half naked monkey man towering over it. And

831
00:45:45,199 --> 00:45:48,440
then you know, as as a self respecting white man,

832
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,960
you behold that and say you're not serious, right, you

833
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,599
don't believe this, This is just goofy shit, right, But

834
00:45:54,639 --> 00:45:59,199
they get it's important. Apparently it's and it's certainly one

835
00:45:59,199 --> 00:46:01,800
of many that are plane And of course that was

836
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,360
erected as a show of force in that area to say,

837
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,639
we own this city, the city of Brampton.

838
00:46:09,559 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: I can tell you how it happened too. Like the

839
00:46:12,119 --> 00:46:15,360
Brampton thing, there's something called the Brampton loan or the

840
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:19,079
Brampton mortgage. That's what it's known as colloquially. CBC actually

841
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:22,280
did a big expose of this in twenty twenty two.

842
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,519
Mortgage fraud is rampant in Indian places because you have

843
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:29,239
Indian bankers, you have Indian real estate agents and other

844
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,360
white collar guys who can just fake employment records, bank

845
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,159
statements and t force to get people who could not

846
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,840
otherwise qualify to qualify for mortgages. And then they'll just

847
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,880
have eight or nine of them living in a house

848
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,559
working at Tim Horton's. And I'm not joking, like I say.

849
00:46:45,559 --> 00:46:48,480
The CBC, our national broadcaster, did a big expose of

850
00:46:48,559 --> 00:46:51,159
this thing at twenty twenty two. They went undercover in

851
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Brampton and then every they didn't mention it, of course,

852
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:56,679
but every single person involved was Indian and they had like,

853
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:58,760
you know, the whole like undercover camera. They're like, we

854
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,000
sent our operatives in and there were Indian people. And

855
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:03,000
then they're like, here's what they found, and it'll be

856
00:47:03,039 --> 00:47:05,320
like a guy like you can qualify. Even if you

857
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,639
do not qualify, you can qualify, no problem, no problem.

858
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,039
So you know, I'm not again not making it up.

859
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:13,239
This is all of the shit that we covered in

860
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:18,079
the documentary. Like it's all from like pro immigration sources theories.

861
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: And also the same thing happened. I spoke to an

862
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,800
in a very interesting individual the named Gordon McGill. He's

863
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,760
a Canadian trucker. And the same thing as with the

864
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:30,079
real estate agents, happened with driving schools and trucking schools.

865
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:32,760
It just seemed over the course of a couple of years,

866
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:36,960
all of these independent outlets got set up with the

867
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:42,559
express purpose of just hand waving through it, specifically Indian drivers,

868
00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:46,440
not testing them correctly. And then that has resulted. And

869
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,960
you know, if you've ever you know, I know, Jean,

870
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,159
you're not from here. But we have this main highway

871
00:47:51,199 --> 00:47:54,280
and intari called the four oh one. It connects all

872
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:56,840
the major cities. And within the past couple of years,

873
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:59,559
I've noticed that these transport trucks are just in the

874
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:03,159
ditch the side of the road, flipped over, burned to

875
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,800
a crisp. And you never saw that growing up because

876
00:48:06,199 --> 00:48:11,599
they just have these weaponized trucks driven by inept inbred

877
00:48:11,679 --> 00:48:17,119
madmen barreling down the road because this whole matrix of

878
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:22,000
fraternal networks and you know, dark money flowing from India

879
00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:23,719
has set it up here. And that's the stuff you

880
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,360
don't really hear about until it gets really, really bad,

881
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,880
so it becomes unignorable. And here it's unignorable in the

882
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,840
view of just blown up trucks on the side of

883
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:37,360
the road and the risk, the very real risk to families,

884
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,320
especially during the winter seasons. But you know the expos

885
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,679
on the real estate thing, Yes, there's an xpos from

886
00:48:43,679 --> 00:48:47,159
our state broadcaster. But then what is the next step

887
00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:49,800
because they don't want you to connect the dots, but

888
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,079
you have to connect the dots because no one else

889
00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:54,960
in the world has that accent.

890
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,679
Speaker 3: When it comes to the trucking thing too, Like truckers

891
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:02,639
are approximately seventeen percent of all federally regulated workers. That

892
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:06,119
means workers that'll work, you know, across provinces, and they

893
00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:10,239
yet they account for about fifty percent of employment like

894
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,159
mistreatment claims and stuff. And that's because a lot of

895
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:15,639
these guys are just indentured servants. Right, I'm not saying

896
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:18,159
like I have sympathy for them, but they are basically

897
00:49:18,199 --> 00:49:21,239
slaves to other more wealthy Indians who bring them over here.

898
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,119
And that's why people say, oh, just put yourself foot

899
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:25,039
by your own bootstraps, Like these people aren't even getting

900
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:27,360
paid sometimes, so like, how are you supposed to compete

901
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:27,559
with that?

902
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,360
Speaker 2: And there's a ready made argument for you. You can

903
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,519
take the pro Indian side if you want, say, we

904
00:49:33,639 --> 00:49:37,119
want to send them back for them, we don't want slaves.

905
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:38,880
That's kind of what was going on in America do

906
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,159
with H one B visa things like these people, you

907
00:49:42,199 --> 00:49:44,880
want a slave class, You want to a whole cast

908
00:49:45,679 --> 00:49:48,639
of serfs to serve you. And you know what, we

909
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,039
care too much about Indians to allow this. You can

910
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:54,239
do that and then let your fucking wife or girlfriend

911
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,480
make that argument for the rest of us. We're just

912
00:49:56,519 --> 00:49:58,960
like I just I don't care. I just I don't

913
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,960
want this. I want you gone. And there's more people

914
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,159
now than ever before making that very very simple argument,

915
00:50:04,199 --> 00:50:07,039
which is an argument that would been familiar to the

916
00:50:07,079 --> 00:50:10,519
generations of people from this little documentary made, which is

917
00:50:10,519 --> 00:50:13,440
that look, I'm a I'm a citizen. I'm a citizen.

918
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,360
In this scrit am I allowed to just say I

919
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,480
don't want it, and I don't need to justify it.

920
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:19,840
I'm a contain citizen. I shouldn't need to just fight.

921
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,280
You're asking me if I want this, I say no,

922
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,719
case clothes. You have to do what I say. And

923
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,880
then by degrees we learn what I say doesn't matter.

924
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,519
And also you learn quickly that whatever justification you can

925
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:34,400
come up with also doesn't matter. There's no way to

926
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,599
win this argument. There's no way to reason your way

927
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:40,519
with someone who wants to do this already for their own,

928
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,920
you know, selfish reasons.

929
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: Well, let's uh, we only have about five six minutes left.

930
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:52,199
Let's end on this. Here in the United States, we

931
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:58,880
have Miami is a huge Cuban community. You have his

932
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:05,039
Spanish can unities out west. You know some some they

933
00:51:05,039 --> 00:51:09,199
are little pockets everywhere, you know, when it comes down

934
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,320
to it, these are people from our hemisphere. A lot

935
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,440
of them are not raised in the greatest Christianity, but

936
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:19,199
they're raised in Christianity. You're dealing with people who are

937
00:51:19,199 --> 00:51:25,079
coming from a drastically, drastically different culture. I'm talking about

938
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:28,880
like you know, if you I know that there's a

939
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,079
lot of people who just want to be complete purists.

940
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,199
But if you were to say, would you rather live

941
00:51:33,199 --> 00:51:36,159
next to Mexicans or would you rather live next to Indians,

942
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,800
I think most people here would be like, well, I

943
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,159
think we'd rather stick We'd stick with the we'd stick

944
00:51:42,159 --> 00:51:43,000
with the Mexicans.

945
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 2: Well, so, if you're on the distant right or on

946
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,559
the maybe far right at all, you're probably used to

947
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,320
Hispanics being some of the loudest voices in this sector.

948
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,280
So you're already you're already you're already on that side

949
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,280
versus the new crop of Indians who came in advocating

950
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,679
for our points, which is like, there's something off about Like,

951
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,400
I don't believe them when they say they're on our side.

952
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,280
This sounds Yeah.

953
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: Not even the cultural I mean, and the cultural issue

954
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,519
in a place like Branton and Mischicaga has to be

955
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:21,800
just awful. But I mean, you've had assassinations that were like,

956
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,760
weren't they sanctioned by like the Indian government?

957
00:52:26,599 --> 00:52:30,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's again jarring to people who didn't think

958
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:33,840
that was possible. Like, and you know, you'll find this interesting.

959
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:37,119
I don't know if you've read this book before. Camp

960
00:52:37,159 --> 00:52:39,159
of the Saints by genre Spale.

961
00:52:39,679 --> 00:52:41,519
Speaker 1: Read I read it on my show. I read I've

962
00:52:41,519 --> 00:52:43,280
read the thoughts of book on my show.

963
00:52:43,639 --> 00:52:46,159
Speaker 2: I just covered it with a good friend of mine,

964
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,559
T R. Hudson, on his show, Cannon fodd Or. We

965
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:50,920
both read recently. Everyone else has read it. We just

966
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,480
got to it recently, and I think it's a very

967
00:52:54,199 --> 00:52:58,559
chilling but illuminating look at this specific problem because the

968
00:52:58,599 --> 00:53:01,199
actors and that are mainly from India, from the Ganges,

969
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:06,039
and it really spells out that these people are from

970
00:53:06,039 --> 00:53:09,639
a world apart from you, and you make a grave

971
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,159
error in thinking that. You know, you don't even necessarily

972
00:53:13,199 --> 00:53:15,679
need to believe they're subhuman. We don't need to traffic

973
00:53:15,679 --> 00:53:17,239
in that terminology if we don't want to. But you

974
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:20,559
can just say they're from another fucking dimension than you

975
00:53:20,679 --> 00:53:22,760
like they don't you don't see. You can shake their

976
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,440
hand and say you both like rice and things. But

977
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:29,559
the way they engage with everything, from time to business

978
00:53:29,559 --> 00:53:33,679
to everything else is different. And you realize that the

979
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:38,920
pro immigration position has been pushed up by this false

980
00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:41,320
narrative that oh, they're just like us, they believe the

981
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,400
same things, they just want to work hard. Well, it's

982
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,960
like you don't even they don't even see working hard

983
00:53:46,519 --> 00:53:50,000
the same way you do. They see cheating as working hard.

984
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:52,400
If they believe if you work hard, you're a sucker.

985
00:53:53,079 --> 00:53:56,039
They believe cheating and grift is the way to do it. So,

986
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,960
you know, once you see stories like that about the assassination, like,

987
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,880
oh what Indians, why do they do that? They're so passive,

988
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,559
they're so docile. You'll hear them say that too. And

989
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:07,400
if you ever dealt with them, no, you need to

990
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:11,480
understand they're not they're running game on you and you were.

991
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:13,199
And as you know, if you ever.

992
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: Worked with Indians, it's their culture. It's it's their culture,

993
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:16,639
it's who they are.

994
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 2: Basically, white men fall victim to Indians because I made

995
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,880
a joke that they make white men feel like plantation owners.

996
00:54:24,119 --> 00:54:29,039
You get this sort of like sniveling, pathetic white you know, Indians,

997
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:31,320
your Indian employees will be the ones who say, you

998
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,320
guys aren't nice enough to the boss. You should respect

999
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,800
the boss more. And you say, yeah, yeah, they should

1000
00:54:37,159 --> 00:54:40,079
like these guys they're ass sniffers. And so a lot

1001
00:54:40,119 --> 00:54:42,199
of older white men, gen X white men too, they

1002
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,360
reallyel like, yeah, yeah, these people finally treat me the

1003
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:46,440
way I deserve to be treated. You saw that with

1004
00:54:46,599 --> 00:54:50,199
the Indian political class too, But you get the sense

1005
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,239
that this is just a game they're running.

1006
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:53,719
Speaker 1: I don't and if you.

1007
00:54:53,679 --> 00:54:57,039
Speaker 2: Pay close attention, something's off. But it's hard to articulate.

1008
00:54:57,079 --> 00:54:59,719
And I had said before, like a couple of years ago,

1009
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:03,800
I said, you know, the white people here are not

1010
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,199
We don't have the firmware upgrade to deal with the

1011
00:55:07,199 --> 00:55:10,679
Indian threat. We just started to understand Islam. A lot

1012
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:13,199
of us regular people kind of get Islam. They get

1013
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:17,480
the Arab thing, the Muslim thing, they get the black thing,

1014
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:19,519
they get the Jewish things on it. But it's like

1015
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:23,360
you're not prepared for Indians like they they got a

1016
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:24,920
different strategy.

1017
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,559
Speaker 3: Can we touch on the civil war thing that's going

1018
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:30,119
on with the Indians?

1019
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 2: And actually, sorry, I actually do need to go right now.

1020
00:55:33,559 --> 00:55:34,920
Can I just leave, Jean?

1021
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,119
Speaker 1: Can you answer that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead.

1022
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,039
Speaker 2: All the listeners. Sorry, I just had a doctor's appointment

1023
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:41,880
that came up really close to the show, and so

1024
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:43,360
I got to be out the door right now. I

1025
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,440
just want to say thank you so much Pete for

1026
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,960
allowing me on, Thank you Jean for joining us, and

1027
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:51,119
amazing show. I'm so happy to be here.

1028
00:55:51,159 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: Thank you. All right, take care of yourself times. Uh yeah.

1029
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,559
Speaker 3: So just really briefly to wrap up, So, the whole

1030
00:55:58,599 --> 00:56:01,400
Indian assassination thing is part of a larger problem where

1031
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,079
there's like a civil war between six and Hindus. So

1032
00:56:04,119 --> 00:56:07,599
the majority of Indians in Canada historically and up to

1033
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:09,960
the present day have been Sikhs and they want like

1034
00:56:10,039 --> 00:56:13,519
a separate homeland that they call Kalistan in northern India,

1035
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:16,239
and the Indian government, which is dominated by Hindus, have

1036
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,840
like an outstanding warrants on a lot of these guys.

1037
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,559
They were responsible for the Air India bombing in nineteen

1038
00:56:22,639 --> 00:56:25,320
ninety three, and so what the Indian government did is

1039
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:29,559
they assassinated a Kalistan guy. And the right wing in

1040
00:56:29,639 --> 00:56:33,639
Canada really hates the Kalistanis because they're incredibly disruptive, and

1041
00:56:33,679 --> 00:56:36,119
so they tend to support the Indian government, whereas the

1042
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,719
left wing tend to support the Kalistanis because they see

1043
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,320
them as freedom fighters. So you have white people basically

1044
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,280
being involved in a proxy war depending on their side

1045
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,199
of the political island Canada, instead of just standing up

1046
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:49,960
for their own rights as white people and saying, why

1047
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,880
the fuck are we having any of this in our country?

1048
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,159
So that's that's a slummation of the of the Indian

1049
00:56:54,199 --> 00:56:55,960
problem with regards to the assassination.

1050
00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, how does it get to that? You know,

1051
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,039
you're you have enough problems with your own people, you

1052
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:10,559
have your own history, you have you have your own economy,

1053
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:15,880
and then you what you import a friggin civil war

1054
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:19,039
from halfway around the world. And not only is it

1055
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:21,400
a civil war from halfway around the world, they're from

1056
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:25,239
a culture that is so alien to us that we

1057
00:57:26,679 --> 00:57:29,559
I had a I had an Indian gentleman on my

1058
00:57:29,719 --> 00:57:33,679
show not too long ago named name Jian Bundari, and

1059
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:37,599
he's been warning about this. He's been warning about Indian

1060
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,800
immigration into the West for a long you know, for

1061
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,480
a long time. And what he said was he goes,

1062
00:57:44,239 --> 00:57:47,840
when you take into consideration like America, and I had

1063
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,920
him when the whole h one B thing was going

1064
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,519
on on Twitter. He said, when you take into consideration,

1065
00:57:53,639 --> 00:57:56,880
you have to think about the fact that you have people.

1066
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:01,320
The people you have there are probably the best the

1067
00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,880
quote unquote best of India. And he said, you haven't

1068
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,320
even met the average Indian yet, And that's when you

1069
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,400
realize you're like, holy fuck. But then also it's like,

1070
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,119
I mean, you have so many in Canada, I'm wondering

1071
00:58:15,159 --> 00:58:17,599
if you a lot of them are the average Indian

1072
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,239
and you already have that there.

1073
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 3: Increasing they were finding that, you know, regardless of what

1074
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:30,480
their quality as people are, they're coming here under false pretenses.

1075
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,840
So like, for example, the international student thing, we have

1076
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:37,519
eight hundred thousand international students here, and our Border Services

1077
00:58:37,719 --> 00:58:41,880
Agency and our RCMP federal police have been finding a

1078
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,960
lot of guys who are coming here with fake letters

1079
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,480
that have ties to gang activities. They're also finding that

1080
00:58:47,519 --> 00:58:51,079
approximately sixteen percent of those eight hundred thousand have no

1081
00:58:51,159 --> 00:58:54,400
record of enrolling in a Canadian institution. So I think

1082
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,000
that the fact that the fraud is so rampant probably

1083
00:58:57,039 --> 00:58:59,239
speaks to the type of people that we're getting. You know,

1084
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:04,119
in terms of my encounters on the street, it's hard

1085
00:59:04,119 --> 00:59:06,599
to say, you know, whether it's it's getting worse. I mean,

1086
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:10,440
there's certainly a lot more Indians. Whether they're the ones

1087
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,719
that I talked with before, you know, in my youth,

1088
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:14,719
were better or worse, I'm not sure about that. That's

1089
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:15,639
an interesting question.

1090
00:59:17,039 --> 00:59:21,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also heard something recently that the yeah, in

1091
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:25,840
India you have a lot of diploma mills, and they

1092
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,679
were figuring out that a lot of the Indians that

1093
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:32,679
came there and became doctors weren't even qualified, weren't even doctors.

1094
00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:36,599
Speaker 3: Well, we have our own we have our own diploma

1095
00:59:36,639 --> 00:59:40,280
mills here. So like you know, Alberta is seen as

1096
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:44,119
the most conservative, reactionary province here, you know, the most

1097
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,719
based province for lack of a better word, and even

1098
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,000
in that province, their premier Daniel Smith a couple of

1099
00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:52,480
years ago was like the main problem we have is

1100
00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:56,119
that we have too many academic institutions that are being

1101
00:59:56,119 --> 00:59:59,480
guarded about their standards. We need to have competing institutions.

1102
00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:01,880
So of course that was just time to ring the bell,

1103
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,320
you know, time for more Indian people to come here

1104
01:00:05,039 --> 01:00:08,159
and get their get their visas and and uh you know,

1105
01:00:08,199 --> 01:00:11,440
get their permanent status. So it's like we it's it's

1106
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,239
we have like I said, we have our diploma mills here.

1107
01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:16,039
When it comes to doctors, yeah, I mean, you know,

1108
01:00:16,199 --> 01:00:19,239
we have a shortage of doctors here. There's approximately one

1109
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:23,480
thousand Canadian board doctors who studied at foreign institutions because

1110
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,519
there are not enough spots to train doctors here in Canada,

1111
01:00:27,599 --> 01:00:30,239
and those are people who can't get accredited and a

1112
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,079
lot of left wing people as Peach. You say, well,

1113
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:34,960
they were trained at foreign institutions, their standards are not

1114
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,199
as high as Canadian institutions. And I'm like, well, by

1115
01:00:37,239 --> 01:00:39,039
the same token, then why are you telling me that

1116
01:00:39,079 --> 01:00:41,039
all the immigrants that are coming here are doctors. They're

1117
01:00:41,079 --> 01:00:43,800
trained at the same institutions that you don't like Canadians

1118
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:47,360
going to. So it's there's a there's a very funny

1119
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:48,360
point to be made there.

1120
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:54,559
Speaker 1: So with the recent with everything that happened with Trudeau recently,

1121
01:00:55,639 --> 01:00:59,199
do you see that the immigration issue having a big,

1122
01:00:59,559 --> 01:01:00,599
big and on that.

1123
01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:03,719
Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's funny because Trudeau's government actually stepped

1124
01:01:03,719 --> 01:01:06,440
back their immigration policies and they announced the reduction in

1125
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,639
international students and temporary foreign workers going into the next year.

1126
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:12,800
Of course, it probably won't be the government next year

1127
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,119
because we'll probably have an election. The Conservatives will undoubtedly

1128
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:19,760
get a majority, and so they've been criticized by the

1129
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:25,400
Conservatives for talking about a reduction in immigration. So yes, this,

1130
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,320
as Times alluded to earlier, this should be an immigration

1131
01:01:29,519 --> 01:01:35,960
campaign but funnily enough, the administration that got us into

1132
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:38,960
this mess is the one who is fighting back the

1133
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,840
hardest on immigration, and our conservatives are actually worse on immigration.

1134
01:01:43,719 --> 01:01:45,960
So it really is a terrible place to be. I mean,

1135
01:01:46,159 --> 01:01:49,639
the Conservative leader Pierre Paulia said that he wants to

1136
01:01:49,639 --> 01:01:54,199
have direct flights from to Ottawa from Amritzar. And Amritsar

1137
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:56,480
is one of the major cities in the Punjab region

1138
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,199
of India. It's a seek stronghold. And again the majority

1139
01:01:59,199 --> 01:02:01,519
of Indians that come here are Sekhs, So I mean,

1140
01:02:01,519 --> 01:02:04,199
this is the type of rhetoric. I mean, the Trudeau

1141
01:02:04,199 --> 01:02:08,320
government deported international students who were here under false pretenses,

1142
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,760
you know, fake letters, or they weren't they weren't in

1143
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,679
school or whatever, and Paul Yev gave a speech denouncing

1144
01:02:15,679 --> 01:02:18,320
that and said we shouldn't be deporting these people. So

1145
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,360
we do have an upstart political party called the People's

1146
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,880
Party of Canada, which is run by our former defense

1147
01:02:25,039 --> 01:02:28,639
minister under the Conservative Harper government. His name is Maxim Bernier,

1148
01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:32,760
and he's announced that he wants to complete moratorium on immigration.

1149
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:37,599
So his rhetoric is actually much stronger than even Trump's rhetoric.

1150
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,199
But the funny thing about that political party is now,

1151
01:02:40,199 --> 01:02:43,199
if you look at the candidates, it's a ton of

1152
01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:45,719
Indians and a ton of black people. And so, you know,

1153
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,840
reactionaries in Canada rightly said, okay, so we're doing sivnat stuff,

1154
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:52,119
but we're not, like what are you doing here, bro?

1155
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,760
So now there's a big fight between the true nationalist

1156
01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:00,719
self described true nationalists, true reactionaries in Canada, and then

1157
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,239
the PPC members themselves are like, no, it's okay, bro.

1158
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:05,719
This guy's based. Bro. He can't speak English, but he's

1159
01:03:05,719 --> 01:03:08,320
totally based if you talk to him. So it's a

1160
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:09,039
complete mess.

1161
01:03:10,679 --> 01:03:13,639
Speaker 1: Hey, but at least poly have like disrespected a journalist

1162
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,159
is eating an apple and everything. Oh that was.

1163
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 3: And you know what, he's such a dweed. And I've

1164
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,119
always said this, especially now that Trudeau's got divorced dad

1165
01:03:23,239 --> 01:03:25,440
energy and he's on his way out. Trueau has done

1166
01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:28,079
a couple of charity boxing matches. He beat up a

1167
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:31,519
Conservative senator and named Patrick Brazo in the mid Ots

1168
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,320
and I was like, Dan, you should just box Pauliyev

1169
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:36,320
because he's been talking all this shit. He's a dweve,

1170
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:38,199
he's a nerd. He's a lot smaller than you. Like,

1171
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:40,360
just come on, justin. We know you've got a six

1172
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,480
pack still, bro, just like go after him. I mean obviously,

1173
01:03:43,559 --> 01:03:45,239
I mean that's not gonna happen, but it would be

1174
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,679
mad funny because like this, yeah, Pauliev's is like, you know,

1175
01:03:47,719 --> 01:03:50,599
he's got all these stupid nicknames for Trudeau and for

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the other opposition leaders. He's a real snarky guy, and

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it would just be funny to see him, you know,

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get his clock cleaned. But I digress.

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Speaker 1: Probably have just reminds me of like these classical liberals

1180
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that we have here, like the James Lindsay types. It's like,

1181
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you know, we want liberty, but it's liberty for everyone

1182
01:04:09,199 --> 01:04:11,719
because you know, you can import anyone and anyone can

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become a Canadian or anyone can become an American. It's like, yeah,

1184
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it doesn't work that way. You know, when my family

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came here, they had to like completely, like openly renounce

1186
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where they came from. You know, I'm no longer a

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subjective there. I'm here and for better or worse, and

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I'm not sending money home. I'm not. No, this is

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where I am, this is where I stand, you know,

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and I'm going to serve and do whatever I want,

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do whatever the country asked me to do. And the

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whole classical liberal type, that whole oh you just you know,

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because because they take an oath and it's like, okay, yeah,

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this isn't I'm sorry, these aren't. These aren't Europeans.

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Speaker 3: I think that, you know, Canada is almost in a

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better place in the sense that we do have multiculturalism.

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And what I mean by that is the multiculturalism thing

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was an artificial policy put in place October eighth, nineteen

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seventy one by per Trudeau, and he fundamentally denounced the

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bicultural that is, the Francophone angle phone split in Canada

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01:05:17,559 --> 01:05:21,039
in favor of multiculturalism, and since then, especially in line

1202
01:05:21,039 --> 01:05:22,840
with all these government programs where it's like you have

1203
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,400
to have a quote of you know, non whites or

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01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,039
women are indigenous people and if your Indigenous or black,

1205
01:05:29,159 --> 01:05:31,760
you're going to get a lighter sentence. Like all these incentives,

1206
01:05:32,199 --> 01:05:36,719
along with multiculturalism, draw people who are not white to

1207
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,320
focus on the fact that they're not white and keep

1208
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their identity in mind and not assimilate, like because we

1209
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:44,599
don't have that melting pot. I think the only people

1210
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who assimilate naturally to the Canadian identity is white people

1211
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because they don't really have a reason not to. And

1212
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that's just what you know, that's ethnogenesis, that just happens naturally,

1213
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,599
whereas all these other people are incentivized to remain on

1214
01:05:56,639 --> 01:05:59,079
the outside. So it's almost like, even though we have

1215
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:02,199
the multiculturalism, the people who are the true Canadians are

1216
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generally white people because other people don't assimbly, and so

1217
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:07,159
it's kind of easier to tell people of part even

1218
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if they've been here for several generations. It's just something

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that we were talking about Dimes and I on Boyce's show.

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Speaker 1: Cool. All right, well I'm gonna get out of here. Thanks,

1221
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:20,320
thanks for coming on and talking about this because yeah,

1222
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,280
I mean, like I said, we just yesterday was inauguration

1223
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day here and what most people who voted for the

1224
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:33,519
guy down here are worried about his immigration and that's

1225
01:06:33,519 --> 01:06:36,239
a big topic. But you guys have been dealing with

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01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:41,119
it up there, and I mean, I don't know, I

1227
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:42,880
don't know who has it worse off at this point.

1228
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a different problem.

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01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:47,039
Speaker 1: Great to see you.

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01:06:47,519 --> 01:06:50,280
Speaker 3: I'll sign off, but before I do, when can we

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expect the next two hundred years to gather segment because

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I've been following those and that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: That'll be tomorrow at eleven am eleven am Central of noon. Yeah,

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01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,639
we're doing two of those a week, so Wednesdays. I'm

1235
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reallyasing on Wednesday at eleven am and Saturday at eleven am.

1236
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As long as we don't know, myself or doctor Johnson

1237
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,880
don't have something that we that takes takes us away

1238
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from our ability to do it. So I do appreciate that.

1239
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,119
Thank you. That's going to be it's a huge project,

1240
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but I think it's gonna be one that people are

1241
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going to be referencing for, you know, decades.

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Speaker 3: I'm stoked on it. Okay, man, Well, thanks so much.

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Speaker 1: I'll see you later, all right, Thanks, Shall I back

