WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:07.519 Big food and be on. 2 00:00:06.759 --> 00:00:08.439 With Cliff and Bobo. 3 00:00:08.839 --> 00:00:12.439 These guys are your favorites, so like say subscribe and 4 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:13.919 raid it live. 5 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:16.199 Stock and me. 6 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:24.000 The Greatest One yesterday and listening watching lim always keep 7 00:00:24.079 --> 00:00:29.719 it squatching. And now you're hosts Cliff Berrickman and James 8 00:00:29.760 --> 00:00:30.440 Bubo Fay. 9 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:33.280 Hello Cliff, Hello, Bobo. How you doing? 10 00:00:33.280 --> 00:00:34.640 Man? Good? How's gonna do? 11 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:38.119 It's going all right? I'm tired. I'm tired, but generally good, 12 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:40.399 generally good. And Matt, you're on the call, aren't you. 13 00:00:40.880 --> 00:00:45.079 I'm here, very good, glad you're here as well. Yeah, Bobs, 14 00:00:45.079 --> 00:00:48.759 I'm pretty tired. Just got back from cryptid Con. Great gig. 15 00:00:48.799 --> 00:00:51.079 Of course everybody was asking where you are? Oh and Bobo. 16 00:00:51.200 --> 00:00:53.159 That just I got to fulfill my obligation. You know, 17 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:54.920 I was at cryptid Con for the last five days. 18 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:56.840 Matt Prue was there, a great event. We'll talk about 19 00:00:56.880 --> 00:00:58.560 that for a while, kind of catch up on how 20 00:00:58.600 --> 00:00:59.200 things are going. 21 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:00.640 But I got to. 22 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:04.400 Fulfill my obligation about thirty thirty five people that you 23 00:01:04.519 --> 00:01:06.640 don't know, may or may not remember, want me to 24 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:09.239 say hi to you for them specifically. 25 00:01:09.040 --> 00:01:11.519 Consider it done and tell them hello for me back. 26 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:14.400 There you go, everybody who I said that, all you 27 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:17.000 people who said out of Bobo for me, I just did. 28 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.120 There's proof right there, and of course Bobo remembers each 29 00:01:20.159 --> 00:01:21.400 and every one of you individually. 30 00:01:21.959 --> 00:01:24.120 I also have a T shirt for you, Bobo from 31 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:26.680 a fan and a listener are a good friend fan 32 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:30.640 Mike Madden. Oh yeah, cool, So we got to figure 33 00:01:30.640 --> 00:01:32.439 out how to get this T shirt your way. 34 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:34.200 You just have a p O box. 35 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:36.719 Well, I'm hoping I'll be seeing him in a month 36 00:01:36.760 --> 00:01:38.680 and a half, so we'll see. We won't we won't 37 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:40.879 promise anything for the listeners yet, but that sure would 38 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:41.400 be nice. 39 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:42.760 Oh yeah, that's right. 40 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:45.480 Oh yeah, any chance you're coming up to Squatch Fest, man, 41 00:01:45.560 --> 00:01:47.120 I mean you can come. You can help me in 42 00:01:47.200 --> 00:01:47.640 my booth. 43 00:01:50.079 --> 00:01:50.599 January. 44 00:01:50.840 --> 00:01:53.079 Oh, it's like the last weekend in January. We have 45 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:55.280 an announce at or anything. But I don't care if 46 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:57.280 Matt puts it in the podcast here, but we're planning 47 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:59.640 on Matt Prut coming down and doing an event at 48 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:02.319 the Music the Thursday before. I'll open that up for 49 00:02:02.439 --> 00:02:04.640 museum members first, and if there are any tickets left, 50 00:02:04.680 --> 00:02:08.479 I'll open it up for podcast members afterwards, and then 51 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:11.520 that'd be Thursday night and then Friday we'll I'll skip 52 00:02:11.599 --> 00:02:13.680 up the squatch fest. So it'd be great to have 53 00:02:13.719 --> 00:02:15.759 you in tow awesome. 54 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:18.000 Yeah, I wanted to get up there next week. I 55 00:02:18.039 --> 00:02:20.879 got some bad news the other night. Laverne, my friend 56 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:24.199 from Quinnall Drive, the oly woman, that maybe all the 57 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:26.000 info and squatches she passed away. 58 00:02:26.680 --> 00:02:30.439 Oh no, yeah, oh no, I'm sorry to hear that. 59 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:33.240 Yeah, they're having services in a couple of weeks. Yas bomb. 60 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:36.719 But I couldn't sleep that it too well. But I 61 00:02:36.759 --> 00:02:39.319 was like thinking about because she lived with her great 62 00:02:39.360 --> 00:02:42.520 grand her granddaughter and son in law or her grandson 63 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:45.439 in law has eight kids and they lived together there 64 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:47.439 in Queets and the I never really get out too 65 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:48.680 much info w I don't. I just kind of talk 66 00:02:48.680 --> 00:02:51.360 about her vaguely, you know, like yeah, because I don't 67 00:02:51.319 --> 00:02:54.039 want people go because when I kind of talked about 68 00:02:54.039 --> 00:02:55.800 her a lot at first, she had some people drop 69 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:57.840 in like just un announced, like people she never met. 70 00:02:57.840 --> 00:02:59.599 There were big fingers her be talking about her and 71 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:01.680 just SHI talked to her, and she wasn't into it. 72 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:04.680 So I was always pretty vague, but I think she was. 73 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.360 I think she was eighty two eighty three something. But 74 00:03:08.759 --> 00:03:11.680 those kids, I was thinking, like they might not realize 75 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:13.159 it now when they get over, it'll be like they 76 00:03:13.199 --> 00:03:15.400 had a you know, direct link to the old school 77 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:17.840 because she was, you know, she grew up. She's like that, 78 00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:20.199 you know, like the last of that generation I could, 79 00:03:20.199 --> 00:03:22.800 you know, like taking the boarding schools and grew up 80 00:03:22.800 --> 00:03:24.879 pretty traditionally, you like, you know, at the end up 81 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:26.560 like during World War two, you know, like there was 82 00:03:26.800 --> 00:03:29.159 not much out there, like they didn't have electricity and 83 00:03:29.159 --> 00:03:31.680 stuff like that. So she passed on a lot of 84 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:33.680 knowledge with the great grandkids. 85 00:03:33.919 --> 00:03:36.800 Yeah, well, shoot, man, that that sucks, man, But you know, 86 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:38.759 hopefully she's on the bigger and better things, you know. 87 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:42.840 Oh, for sure, she's definitely going where the good people go. Yeah, 88 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:44.759 she was. She was a special lady for sure. Yeah. 89 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:46.879 I met her once when you you and I were 90 00:03:46.960 --> 00:03:49.000 up there for something or other and I met her. 91 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.840 I remember, just briefly said hello to her and shook 92 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:53.400 her hand or something like that, if I remember right, 93 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:54.639 and said that I heard a lot of good things 94 00:03:54.680 --> 00:03:56.400 about her, But you have to spend some real quality 95 00:03:56.479 --> 00:03:58.599 time with her. So that's really neat that you had 96 00:03:58.639 --> 00:04:01.639 an opportunity to learn like from the source about bigfoots 97 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:03.639 and some of the cultural items that they have up there. 98 00:04:04.280 --> 00:04:06.280 I've said it before, but her husband's family was like 99 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:08.680 the family the Sasquatch family for the tribe up there, 100 00:04:09.319 --> 00:04:13.080 Like they're the ones that held the traditional knowledge for 101 00:04:13.120 --> 00:04:15.240 the tribe, like all the gathered info. Like they had 102 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:18.040 like you know, salmon people, people that knew everything about salmon, 103 00:04:18.079 --> 00:04:19.720 and like when they were young, they treat them like 104 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:22.759 everything about deer or elk or bear whatever, you know, 105 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.040 where the honey was or whatever. It was. Like they 106 00:04:25.040 --> 00:04:28.000 had certain families that you know, really focused on like 107 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:29.480 you know, all the all the guys that aren't hunting 108 00:04:29.519 --> 00:04:31.360 and tracking and fishing and like they all learned that, 109 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:34.879 but there's like certain things they would concentrate on, like 110 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.120 this is our family definitely is like this is what 111 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:41.319 we're getting master. Yeah, she she had a lot of info, 112 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:44.040 and she was really shy and she kind of I 113 00:04:44.040 --> 00:04:46.639 didn't really realize it at the time, but she you know, 114 00:04:46.720 --> 00:04:48.759 she get out there in the Reds and Little Seene 115 00:04:48.920 --> 00:04:51.800 village her whole life. She was pretty uncomfortble get around 116 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:54.720 like whiteoplesial people with like credentials like other credentials standards 117 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:57.800 like Meldrum and John Bindernagal and she just clammed up. 118 00:04:57.839 --> 00:05:00.839 You know, she was really shy, and she's why do 119 00:05:00.839 --> 00:05:01.959 they want to talk to me that, you know they 120 00:05:01.959 --> 00:05:05.279 were fancy, you know, professors, And I'm like, no, they 121 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:07.439 want to know what you know on this subject. They 122 00:05:08.079 --> 00:05:10.079 want to they want to know it. She I tried 123 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:11.680 to get her to talk about you just usually kind 124 00:05:11.720 --> 00:05:12.720 of clam up a little bit. 125 00:05:13.240 --> 00:05:16.000 It's unfortunate that we've lost her, of course, and you're 126 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:18.480 lucky to have known her, as as is true of 127 00:05:18.480 --> 00:05:21.360 all great people who pass. Of course. I guess we 128 00:05:21.480 --> 00:05:23.560 just keep her in our thoughts through some way. I'm 129 00:05:23.560 --> 00:05:26.120 not sure what to do about that, except for be thankful, 130 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:29.480 I suppose, instead of grieving, perhaps be thankful for the 131 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:31.680 role she played in your life. And Bob correct me 132 00:05:31.680 --> 00:05:33.959 if I'm wrong, But isn't she the one that basically 133 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.600 told you exactly where and when the ghost someplace to 134 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:37.399 see a SaaS Quah? 135 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:40.639 And she was right, yep, the second BFR expedition back 136 00:05:40.639 --> 00:05:45.360 in August two thousand and four. She told me because 137 00:05:45.439 --> 00:05:47.759 I heard about her from for a couple of years. 138 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:50.959 Then I finally I was talking to someone of the 139 00:05:51.000 --> 00:05:54.199 trading posts there as her grandson and you and I 140 00:05:54.240 --> 00:05:56.240 was saying like, yeah, you know, looking for information. I 141 00:05:56.240 --> 00:05:57.759 want to talk to me when I can, like the elders, 142 00:05:57.800 --> 00:05:59.480 you know. And after a couple of years of stop 143 00:05:59.560 --> 00:06:02.560 and bothering and you know, talking to the people, he 144 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:04.920 got I gave him ten bucks and you let me 145 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:07.759 go talk to his grandma. That's when I met her, 146 00:06:07.800 --> 00:06:09.959 and and it was you know, it was kind of 147 00:06:10.360 --> 00:06:12.839 a little awkward at first because she was real, real shy, 148 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.199 and I wouldn't say much, but I just every time 149 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.079 I get like, uh, when I was up there, i'd 150 00:06:17.079 --> 00:06:19.040 stop buy him, like you know, just you know trudial, 151 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:21.839 like especially among their culture. You don't show up at 152 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:23.600 the handy, you know, you ship with like you know, 153 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:26.759 like angel food cake or a box of cookies or 154 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:28.839 a thing, you know, something you know, share good to 155 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:31.279 the kids and everything, like give him a treat or something. 156 00:06:31.319 --> 00:06:33.839 And so then she started talking more and more than 157 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:35.959 after I was up there a couple of years. I 158 00:06:36.040 --> 00:06:38.720 went there one time and she just really like really 159 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:40.279 opened up and started telling me all kinds of stuff 160 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:42.519 and it was like my mind was blown and everything 161 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:45.079 she toltally worked out and then so we were there in 162 00:06:45.079 --> 00:06:46.879 two thousand and four. She goes, if you really want 163 00:06:46.920 --> 00:06:49.160 to see one, go at three o'clock in the morning 164 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:50.600 and go to the trading post and walk south on 165 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:52.800 the one on one They crossed the road there. If 166 00:06:52.800 --> 00:06:55.199 you walk up and down that road between three and 167 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:57.560 five am, you will see them. And we didn't. We did. 168 00:06:57.600 --> 00:07:00.360 We got there at three, like three am on the 169 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:04.199 dot part, started walking up the one o one, pitch black. 170 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:07.120 We had night vision on the Colonel, the old Green 171 00:07:07.160 --> 00:07:10.360 Break colonel, the Colonel, the d colonel, you know, because 172 00:07:10.639 --> 00:07:12.680 three years up to nine to eleven, so they had 173 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:14.720 new night vision gear and so he had he was 174 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:18.800 the he ran the southeast quadrant for Washington State Reservists 175 00:07:18.839 --> 00:07:21.399 for Green Braves, so he was had keys to like 176 00:07:21.439 --> 00:07:24.040 the supply of rooms and whatever. And so we brought 177 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:26.240 like fifteen pairs of night vision goggles with them, like 178 00:07:26.319 --> 00:07:28.680 their Gen two that nowadays they'd suck, but for us 179 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:30.680 back then they were good and we had them on. 180 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:32.519 They didn't record though. We were walking up the road 181 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:34.439 and I see this thing on the left side of 182 00:07:34.480 --> 00:07:36.519 the road. We're really walking for about twenty minutes for 183 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:40.079 about a mile into the walk and I see something 184 00:07:40.079 --> 00:07:41.519 big on the side of road and I stopped walking, 185 00:07:41.560 --> 00:07:44.000 and the other guys kept walking. I started walking again. 186 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.519 I'm looking, there's one right there. And I was like, god, 187 00:07:46.519 --> 00:07:47.519 I don't want to I want to make sure it 188 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:50.800 steps out again further into the road so that I 189 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:52.199 don't know, like I just saw something that no one 190 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:54.199 else sees it. You know, I see like a jackass. 191 00:07:54.759 --> 00:07:56.079 I go, you guys, see that up there on the 192 00:07:56.160 --> 00:07:58.360 road on the left. And also they're like, oh my god. 193 00:07:58.439 --> 00:08:00.160 I also just feel like the oh shit, you know, 194 00:08:00.199 --> 00:08:02.439 like all that's like, oh my god. And it walked 195 00:08:02.439 --> 00:08:05.199 to three strips across the road, walked to the fog 196 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:06.600 line on the upper side of the one O one, 197 00:08:07.079 --> 00:08:09.120 turned and faced us and just blowed up like it was. 198 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:11.279 It stood right next to this, well not right next 199 00:08:11.319 --> 00:08:13.600 to it. It was really close within fifteen feet of 200 00:08:13.600 --> 00:08:16.759 a traffic sign was it said fifty five and had 201 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:20.759 the curvy swerved little diamond sign below it. It walked right. 202 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:23.079 We all saw, well, dude, here's the thing. The only 203 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:24.879 car that went by that whole two hours we were 204 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:27.079 out there, The only car that went by came by 205 00:08:27.240 --> 00:08:30.480 exactly from the south heading north towards us. This thing 206 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:33.840 was on the almost to the top of the hill, 207 00:08:34.320 --> 00:08:36.240 and then it dropped down to the other side on 208 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:38.320 the south side. We were on the north side, so 209 00:08:38.320 --> 00:08:41.000 this car coming from the south heading north, its lights 210 00:08:41.120 --> 00:08:43.639 also started brightening up. And then last thing we saw 211 00:08:43.879 --> 00:08:45.679 it was standing next to the sign, and then it 212 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:47.799 got so bright like it blew our night vision out. 213 00:08:48.440 --> 00:08:49.840 And the last thing I saw was it turned and 214 00:08:49.840 --> 00:08:53.039 start to walk head like it was just as you know, 215 00:08:53.039 --> 00:08:55.519 getting too bright. It turned and stood up the road, 216 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:58.480 but it stood there for about ten seconds, just like 217 00:08:58.639 --> 00:09:01.120 flex like it's arms out like ready to look like 218 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:04.159 someone wanted to fight, like fist clenched. Just blowed up. 219 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:06.320 It wasn't like super super huge while like some of 220 00:09:06.320 --> 00:09:08.000 the other ones I saw, but I mean it was big, dude. 221 00:09:08.039 --> 00:09:11.000 It was. It was, you know, probably three and a 222 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:12.600 half foot across the shoulders. It wasn't like one of 223 00:09:12.639 --> 00:09:14.840 those like five foot across the shoulder looking ones. But 224 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:16.919 it was big. And it walked right next to the 225 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:19.919 son of sign was nine one or nine four somewhere 226 00:09:19.919 --> 00:09:21.879 in there, and it walked by that We all agreed 227 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:24.200 it was. That's how like its head went right even 228 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:26.840 with that from our angle, and so it was about 229 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:28.879 a nine footer and then it was like, oh my god, 230 00:09:28.919 --> 00:09:31.679 like that was insane. And you know, that was like 231 00:09:31.720 --> 00:09:33.840 the first night, you know, we're there. Twenty minutes into 232 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:35.240 the lock. I was like this is going to go 233 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:37.159 and like this is not going to stop. And we 234 00:09:37.200 --> 00:09:40.240 had multiple class as on that trip, and you and I, 235 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:41.840 well that's where you and I went. We kind of 236 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:43.759 were trespassing camping around out there. 237 00:09:44.159 --> 00:09:45.559 Yeah, you know, not that I was on that same 238 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:48.039 trip though, But to be fair, like back then at 239 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:49.799 the time, I was naive and I didn't really didn't 240 00:09:49.799 --> 00:09:52.320 actually realize for quite a while that I was trespassing. 241 00:09:52.360 --> 00:09:54.879 So just there's almost nobody out there. So when I 242 00:09:54.919 --> 00:09:56.919 was out there and I didn't see anybody, didn't you 243 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.240 know then that it doesn't occur to you that you're trespassing, 244 00:09:59.240 --> 00:10:01.159 And of course you're trusted seeing on Native land, you know, 245 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.600 on the reservation. But once I learned that, like, oh 246 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:05.480 I'm not supposed to be there, I kind of didn't 247 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:07.120 know that, you know, I was kind of naive back 248 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.639 in the day. I stopped going there, you know, out 249 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:11.879 of respect, of course, unless I had somebody with me, 250 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:14.519 you know, from the tribe or had permission and like 251 00:10:14.559 --> 00:10:15.919 to say, you know, no, just drop my name. It's 252 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:17.919 cool if if somebody asks you, everybody knows me like 253 00:10:18.080 --> 00:10:18.840 that kind of stuff. 254 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:23.679 Yeah, I got I got permission later on from tribal 255 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:25.559 council guys like okay, you can go there, just don't 256 00:10:25.679 --> 00:10:28.679 you know, don't you know, be respectful like that kind 257 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:32.080 of stuff. Right right, That was a crazy trick because 258 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:35.679 that's where Tracy found those miniature like four We were 259 00:10:35.720 --> 00:10:39.799 tracking these two adult bigfoots. I think it was fifteen 260 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:43.879 and thirteen inch tracks or twelve and twelve and a 261 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:45.279 half inch tracks stuff like that. There were you know, 262 00:10:45.360 --> 00:10:50.080 like six inches across the ball and four across the hill, 263 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:51.440 kind of four and a half across the hill kind 264 00:10:51.480 --> 00:10:54.080 of thing. And you can see where the smaller set 265 00:10:54.120 --> 00:10:58.320 of tracks set down, like four inch tracks, like perfect 266 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:01.320 little bigfoot tracks. And the thing wandered over to the 267 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:06.279 embankment and they were digging clams, the adults, I think that, yeah, 268 00:11:06.320 --> 00:11:08.519 the clams there they were digging so that you can 269 00:11:08.519 --> 00:11:10.440 see they had been digging, and where the little baby 270 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:12.679 been sitting, they made a little daisy chain out of 271 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:16.919 these flower stems, which kind of reminded me. We assume 272 00:11:16.919 --> 00:11:18.879 that the baby because it was small, and Tracy still 273 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:22.919 has it's it's about four inches long or so. But 274 00:11:23.000 --> 00:11:25.039 it reminded me about when you guys went to the 275 00:11:25.039 --> 00:11:27.799 nest site and found the looks like a baby bigfooted 276 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:31.200 practice making nests just like the big ones. That they're 277 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:33.919 kind of janky and all that. I was like, you know, 278 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:36.039 that kind of ties in like they do practice from 279 00:11:36.039 --> 00:11:38.120 a young age and making nests and that eating stuff 280 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:39.919 like that sort of stuff. 281 00:11:40.279 --> 00:11:42.799 Yeah, And of course, the you know, the purported or 282 00:11:43.080 --> 00:11:49.440 the hypothesized juvenile nests at the Olympic Project site. They 283 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:51.639 thought that it might be a juvenile thing because it 284 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:53.799 was smaller than some of the bigger ones and also 285 00:11:53.879 --> 00:11:55.840 is up above the ground. It was in a bush 286 00:11:55.919 --> 00:11:57.480 or if I remember right, or some sort of you know, 287 00:11:57.559 --> 00:11:59.279 a lot of it's a huckleberry which grows up to 288 00:11:59.320 --> 00:12:01.799 be like ten or twelve feet in that area, but 289 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:03.919 it was like about three or four feet off the 290 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:05.919 ground or something, if I remember. I don't think I 291 00:12:05.960 --> 00:12:06.720 saw that one with. 292 00:12:06.679 --> 00:12:10.440 My own eyes. Maybe I did. Actually response to the 293 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.360 chimps and Oraontians do the same thing they practice, make 294 00:12:13.399 --> 00:12:15.759 a nest when they're young with kind of crappy ones, 295 00:12:15.799 --> 00:12:17.080 you know, then they get better and better so they 296 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:17.639 get older. 297 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:20.960 Oh yeah, yeah yeah. Isn't that true of all ape species, 298 00:12:21.000 --> 00:12:21.720 including our own? 299 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.039 And if people want to go back and listen to 300 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.360 Tracy talk about some of that stuff she was on 301 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:27.759 episode two oh one. 302 00:12:28.240 --> 00:12:30.320 I just say, I guess I'm not a good primate 303 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:32.120 clipause I have at practice sessin so I was young, 304 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:33.440 you know. 305 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:35.120 But I'd like to think that you're getting better at 306 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:37.519 things that you continue to do, though, right, or you're 307 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:38.440 not getting worse, are you? 308 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:45.600 I can't think of anything I'm getting better at all. 309 00:12:45.639 --> 00:12:47.080 Right, fair enough. 310 00:12:47.519 --> 00:12:50.039 Since we didn't mention the specific dates earlier, I did 311 00:12:50.120 --> 00:12:52.840 pull up a calendar, so we'll be doing the event 312 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:56.159 at the NABC on Thursday, January twenty third, and then 313 00:12:56.200 --> 00:13:00.000 squatch Fest is Friday, January twenty fourth and Saturday January 314 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:02.240 Ray twenty fifth, and I'll put the links for that 315 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:03.440 stuff in the show notes. 316 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:04.120 Cool. 317 00:13:04.200 --> 00:13:06.840 Cool, Thank you for doing that. Well, anyway, it'd be 318 00:13:06.879 --> 00:13:09.080 nice to have you up here for that. 319 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:09.399 Bobs. 320 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:10.799 I don't know if you can make an app and 321 00:13:10.799 --> 00:13:11.440 that'd be awesome. 322 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:14.720 Should take out a couple of days of work, that'd 323 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:16.960 be worth it, though, But I only get five days 324 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:19.480 off like out of the school of the semester. So 325 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:22.679 to leave like early early Thursday morning, get up there 326 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:25.240 in time for that all, I could probably pull it off. 327 00:13:25.840 --> 00:13:28.399 Yeah, well you know what if maybe If not Thursday, 328 00:13:28.399 --> 00:13:30.240 then just come by on Friday and hang out and 329 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:33.039 split on Sunday go back home. Don't you have Fridays off? 330 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:34.840 No? No, that was just that one day. 331 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.039 Oh are you working five days a week? 332 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:38.039 Yeah? 333 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:40.679 Oh my goodness, sos to only do three. 334 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:42.799 But they like me, so give me. They said, can 335 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:44.240 you do this? I said, yeah, the next thing, I'm 336 00:13:44.240 --> 00:13:46.679 working like five days a week, like three quarters time. 337 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:50.799 You're rolling in that sweet sweet public education money. 338 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:55.279 Oh god, literally would make more at McDonald's. McDonald's wage 339 00:13:55.279 --> 00:13:57.080 just starts higher in California. 340 00:13:57.440 --> 00:13:59.159 You probably smell better after work too. 341 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:03.519 You get more respect me and McDonald's employed than being 342 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:06.879 a working at the school, as those kids don't respect 343 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:07.840 the adults too much. 344 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:11.360 But it's sad. I mean, working with the kids is great. 345 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:13.799 It's just great, and you're helping them out and you 346 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:16.320 never know you just never know the difference you make 347 00:14:16.399 --> 00:14:19.200 until you know. You probably never know for most of 348 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:22.600 the kids, but even you know to this day, maybe 349 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:25.639 not today today, but you know, kids show up, like 350 00:14:25.720 --> 00:14:28.200 former students of mine pop by the museum and tell 351 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.320 me what a difference they made, And like some of 352 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:32.799 the kids were just Hellians who I didn't think would 353 00:14:32.799 --> 00:14:33.159 make it. 354 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:33.720 Honestly. 355 00:14:33.720 --> 00:14:36.600 It's like, man, that kid has an uphill climb to 356 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:39.919 adulthood and he's but they come back and they're all 357 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:42.879 together and stuff, and then they say something's kind like, 358 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:44.360 you know, a man like you really made a big, 359 00:14:44.399 --> 00:14:46.320 big difference. It's like really touching. 360 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:46.639 Man. 361 00:14:47.240 --> 00:14:51.679 You just never know what good thing you accidentally put 362 00:14:51.679 --> 00:14:55.200 out into the world. You know, so just you wouldn't 363 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:57.600 be there unless the universe wanted you there. So good 364 00:14:57.600 --> 00:14:58.840 for you, man, I'm really happy for him. 365 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:00.720 The teachers that have the in fact I knew were 366 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:02.440 the ones with the hardest on me for sure, are 367 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:04.279 the ones that I didn't put up with a lot, 368 00:15:04.720 --> 00:15:06.480 Like they knew I could skate by just like not 369 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:08.720 studying and stuff, you know, get on me and make 370 00:15:08.799 --> 00:15:12.720 me work harder and all that kind of stuff like that. Yeah, 371 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:14.679 I was like I didn't like them at the time. 372 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:16.360 I thought they were like mean or whatever. But and 373 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:18.559 I was like, oh, these they helped me out more 374 00:15:18.600 --> 00:15:20.559 than the people. Are just nice and let me cruise. 375 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:23.039 Yeah. Yeah, love comes in a lot of different forms 376 00:15:23.039 --> 00:15:27.240 and sometimes it's a little tough. Stay tuned for more 377 00:15:27.320 --> 00:15:30.279 Bigfoot and Beyond with Cliff and Bobo. Will be right 378 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:31.519 back after these messages. 379 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:40.000 So tell me about Crypticon, man, I missed. I was bound. 380 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:41.320 I missed it. 381 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:43.639 It was It was a good event. I mean, cryptocon 382 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:46.480 is one of the best organized events. You know, it 383 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.360 really well attended. Of course that a lot of good people. 384 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:50.639 This year. 385 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:54.080 The speaking list was kind of divided between like entertainment 386 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:56.679 people like TV nerds various sorts, and like a like 387 00:15:57.679 --> 00:16:00.000 researchers who were into doing it out of the level 388 00:16:00.120 --> 00:16:03.000 the subject. You know, I guess the TV shows that 389 00:16:03.039 --> 00:16:07.000 were represented. Russ and Maria were there from Expedition Bigfoot. 390 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:09.799 They had some guy named Tom who's on that show 391 00:16:09.919 --> 00:16:13.799 like the Skinwalker Ranch show, whatever that is. And they 392 00:16:13.840 --> 00:16:17.440 had a woman who was on that Expedition X show 393 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:21.159 where they Mark Marsell. Yeah, or they didn't. They didn't 394 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:24.000 give Mark the respect that he deserves and they kind 395 00:16:24.000 --> 00:16:27.279 of stole his thunder by pretending to rediscover the cabin site, 396 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:30.320 even though Mark had done so many many years early 397 00:16:30.720 --> 00:16:33.360 earlier than their television show was filmed. 398 00:16:33.480 --> 00:16:34.840 Where people do what hell about that? 399 00:16:35.399 --> 00:16:37.240 But you know what, she actually came up to Mark 400 00:16:37.320 --> 00:16:39.879 and said I'm sorry about how that worked out or 401 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:42.399