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Speaker 1: we were recording here, Royce, you were telling me about
Speaker 1: some protests that were going on in Colorado about people
Speaker 1: who want the illegals.
Speaker 2: So people are talking about.
Speaker 3: Obviously Trump being a fascist and you know, we want
Speaker 3: to keep our people, and it seemed like it was
Speaker 3: all over the country. Apparently it wasn't just in Denver.
Speaker 3: Basically just on my smart its like just looking up
Speaker 3: protests in Colorado, like there was a big thing about
Speaker 3: February fifth, everybody needed the Capitol building and literally they
Speaker 3: went there to throw up signs and say, you know,
Speaker 3: we want to save our democracy and no fascists and
Speaker 3: all that fun stuff.
Speaker 1: Even though yeah, illegals are a part of the democratic
Speaker 1: process now we actually since they can vote with no
Speaker 1: voter ID in certain places, I suppose they can be
Speaker 1: but all.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, so it just kind of coat.
Speaker 3: I didn't really have a chance to look at exactly everything,
Speaker 3: but just briefly just taking a look at it, like
Speaker 3: why all these people are.
Speaker 2: Protesting these things is like.
Speaker 3: I understand like the way that the media portrays it
Speaker 3: as you know, oh my god, that you know this
Speaker 3: mother is being is being separated from her child, and
Speaker 3: families are being separated, but they.
Speaker 1: Are not here the right way.
Speaker 3: I will tell you though, that I actually responded to
Speaker 3: someone on like there was a post on a redditbout
Speaker 3: this whole decembery February fifth thing, and I was like, look,
Speaker 3: I'm generally curious to see what exactly it takes to
Speaker 3: become a citizen. And the person that basically responded to
Speaker 3: me and she's simply, it was a very very difficult process.
Speaker 3: So the process isn't easy and it can be expensive,
Speaker 3: and like you need to know, you need like apparently
Speaker 3: this girl's family immigrated for work. But then like it's
Speaker 3: it's a big mess. So the system doesn't seem easy
Speaker 3: by any means, right, But obviously there's there's a way
Speaker 3: to go go about it. But maybe they're saying that
Speaker 3: most people don't have the finances to afford it and
Speaker 3: it is extremely difficult. So I think that we can
Speaker 3: agree that the system should potentially change, but just the
Speaker 3: way that they're going about it is not necessarily the
Speaker 3: right way. Obviously, then you have the event as we
Speaker 3: on the gangs who are in Denver and Aurora and
Speaker 3: who were wreaking all kinds of havoc and threatening the
Speaker 3: apartments and there are well, you're going to pay rents
Speaker 3: to us or else, So obviously that's not good either.
Speaker 3: So there's a difference between people who want to come
Speaker 3: to this country for something better and then some people
Speaker 3: that want to come here and they want to make it,
Speaker 3: you know, little Mexico or worse.
Speaker 1: The all right, So taking away all political dogma, regardless
Speaker 1: of what side of what asle people want to throw
Speaker 1: on this, Okay, we are in fact a nation of immigrants.
Speaker 1: That's just the facts of the matter, Okay. And I
Speaker 1: fully understand why somebody from a third world or even
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw it on that shade a
Speaker 1: Central American country would try to come to this nation
Speaker 1: by any means necessary to try to form a better
Speaker 1: life for themselves. I fully understand this with all of
Speaker 1: the empathy and compassion that I can muster. I hear that,
Speaker 1: and I get it right. And I don't even like
Speaker 1: grouping all of them with the like Trump has said
Speaker 1: a million times, the drug dealers and the gang members
Speaker 1: and all that. Yes, there are those. I would postulate
Speaker 1: that the vast majority of the legal immigrants that make
Speaker 1: their way to America are not gang members, okay, And
Speaker 1: they're not out here trying to be out in these streets.
Speaker 1: You know, They're trying to make a little living for
Speaker 1: themselves with a better opportunity than they had in their
Speaker 1: home country. I get this. I have the empathy for it. Okay.
Speaker 1: There is absolutely the illegal factions that make the way
Speaker 1: across Trendeirawa. I think is called they have been wrecking
Speaker 1: shop in certain areas of the country when they have
Speaker 1: where they have made their presence known. That can't go unanswered, okay.
Speaker 1: But even still, it's like they're drinking our jarbs. Like
Speaker 1: not many Americans are gonna go pick fruit in a
Speaker 1: field for pennies on the dollar or build houses for
Speaker 1: less than minimum wage under the table, like illegal immigrants would.
Speaker 1: I hear this, I get it, Okay. The problem isn't
Speaker 1: the illegals that are coming over and building houses for
Speaker 1: way cheaper Okay. They're not the carpenters that are working
Speaker 1: without a license or these things, although yes, these are
Speaker 1: problems as well. But it's like, okay, if it's a rule,
Speaker 1: it's a rule. It's a rule, and we can't make
Speaker 1: exceptions for one without making exceptions for the other. And
Speaker 1: when you do this on scale, we now get the
Speaker 1: problems that we have in this country Economically. This can't work,
Speaker 1: so we obviously need to get these people out now.
Speaker 1: I was actually just talking to my children about this today.
Speaker 1: I just got home from my son's soccer practice, first
Speaker 1: practice of the year. He was stoked and on the
Speaker 1: way he was asking about what is Trump doing about
Speaker 1: the illegal immigrants. I don't know why my eleven year
Speaker 1: old thought to ask this question. I think because a
Speaker 1: lot of his buddies are actually Hispanic, and like we do,
Speaker 1: in fact love the Hispanic community in my household. I
Speaker 1: don't teach hatred. I don't teach bigotry. Okay I did,
Speaker 1: That's not how I do business. But I did tell
Speaker 1: him that there is a faction of this so that
Speaker 1: they are here illegally, this makes them criminals, so when
Speaker 1: they get sent home to their home countries. Trump has
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of things in this time. Y'all
Speaker 1: remember hearing about when they sent planes to Venezuela and
Speaker 1: Venezuela sent them back, and then Trump basically picked up
Speaker 1: the phone and was like, hey, look, uh, either you
Speaker 1: take these dudes off the plane, or there won't be
Speaker 1: people to get off the plane next time. And like
Speaker 1: that's just gonna be what it's gonna be. Next thing.
Speaker 1: You know, Venezuela's accepting their illegals back and it's all
Speaker 1: good Mexico. That Mexico is like, we can't do that.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna take these people back. Bob By Bop
Speaker 1: Trump picked up the phone, and now Mexico has sent
Speaker 1: like a thousand troops to the border to help strengthen
Speaker 1: the border security, to help the US forces. And it's like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: that didn't play out like they thought it was gonna do.
Speaker 1: They thought they were dealing with somebody without a backbone.
Speaker 1: They forgot that dyning t just stepped into the room.
Speaker 1: But yeah, the people that are protesting that we love
Speaker 1: our illegals and things like that. Look, who doesn't love
Speaker 1: the culture of Latin America, right, who doesn't love taco
Speaker 1: stands on every corner. I can't find one person that's
Speaker 1: bitching about that, and myself included. But if we're gonna
Speaker 1: be honest here, it's not even like the drain on
Speaker 1: the welfare system, the drain on the socialized medicine system,
Speaker 1: or it's not even the drain on one system or
Speaker 1: that system or the other. It's the all encombassing and
Speaker 1: that's the bigger picture, and that's the problem. If it
Speaker 1: was a mass wave one time that we could handle,
Speaker 1: that's one thing. I forget what the last statistic was
Speaker 1: on what a monthly snapshot looked like of how many
Speaker 1: people had made it across the border. But we're talking about.
Speaker 4: Millions and millions and millions and millions and millions and
Speaker 4: millions of people over the course of the last four years,
Speaker 4: ten years, twenty years.
Speaker 1: It's it's to a point to where we literally have
Speaker 1: to start the mass deportation and it's high time. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be a little bit of an
Speaker 1: uncomfortable situation, and people are gonna attribute Trump to being
Speaker 1: laterally hatlar. This is not the same thing by any
Speaker 1: stretch of the imagination. Everybody else in the chat, what
Speaker 1: do y'all think about this?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm kind of torn right because so like
Speaker 5: last week, one of the reasons I wasn't here is
Speaker 5: like literally that Wednesday, Ice did a raid and not
Speaker 5: my plant, but another plan of the company that I worked.
Speaker 1: For y'all have a raid. Dude.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well okay, it wasn't an official they didn't officially
Speaker 5: say ice. But I get to work, and I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm in. I'm over in Portland. Most of our plants
Speaker 5: are in the south and the East coast, and I'm in.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting.
Speaker 5: I'm sitting in the plant manager meeting and corporates talk
Speaker 5: about that the FEDS came to a plant, right, Okay,
Speaker 5: And this was literally the day after the rape had
Speaker 5: been announced, or a day or two after, right, So,
Speaker 5: like I'm kind of seeing both sides of it because
Speaker 5: like I have a lot of people right now, like
Speaker 5: they're they're on migrant status, right, They've got all the papers.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, good good things. Look who can nobody's against
Speaker 1: the migrants that have their papers in the order?
Speaker 2: Brother, No, no, no, no. But like I'm still kind
Speaker 2: of learning about all that.
Speaker 5: But like anyways, right, so I so I empathize. Yeah,
Speaker 5: So they were going through the whole thing.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, look, if the FEDS, if.
Speaker 5: Any government agency comes in, don't let them walk around
Speaker 5: the planet. Ask for ID ask for a warrant. It
Speaker 5: was a hard part for me to say, Look, I'm
Speaker 5: a convict. I see a badge, the first thing I
Speaker 5: asked for is a warrant like.
Speaker 1: Yo, Like, Yo, I'm not a convict. But straight up,
Speaker 1: if I see badges in bound, I'm a ghost from wayback, son,
Speaker 1: I'm a runner. I see the lights, I'm going, you
Speaker 1: ain't gonna see me, Bro.
Speaker 2: No, so, but it's it's like.
Speaker 5: So when I was on the other side of the tracks,
Speaker 5: I always understood that any action I was taking, I
Speaker 5: was risking potential consequences. And sometimes those consequences wouldn't.
Speaker 2: Even affect me. It might be the people around me.
Speaker 5: Right, So there's a twofold part with like these people
Speaker 5: are not fall into rules, like there needs to be consequences,
Speaker 5: like call me a big, call me harsh, Like I
Speaker 5: don't care if we're living on quote unquote stolen land,
Speaker 5: Like we conquered.
Speaker 2: That's what we did. Like it happened.
Speaker 5: Sorry, Like but that's that's what's the way the world
Speaker 5: at the time.
Speaker 2: And that's what we did, Bro.
Speaker 1: That's what every civilization has done. Rome conquered the people
Speaker 1: that lived on that land before their Greece, Persia, name it.
Speaker 1: That's how this works. That's how human civilization has worked.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I mean, yeah, like you you broke a rule,
Speaker 5: you got to pay the consequences. And if you are
Speaker 5: a parent with children, if if you break any other laws,
Speaker 5: guess what You're gonna be separated.
Speaker 2: From your children. It's harsh. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Like that, there was that mom that was like, what
Speaker 1: happens if I get picked up by ice, Who's gonna
Speaker 1: get my kids from school? And this? And this all right?
Speaker 1: And with all empathy, all empathy and compassion. If I'm
Speaker 1: riding dirty and I get pulled over and I get cuffed,
Speaker 1: Who's getting my kids off the bus? That's not fair
Speaker 1: except for the fact that I was breaking the law
Speaker 1: and I literally brought this upon myself.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: But then I also, we are conspiracy theorists. We do
Speaker 5: not trust any government for that matter.
Speaker 1: Facts.
Speaker 5: I also like, while I'm not on the Trump is
Speaker 5: Hitler right, It's like, okay, that man was also rounding
Speaker 5: up a particular group of people people and some horrible
Speaker 5: things happen to them, right, it believe that narrative. There's
Speaker 5: people out there that question it.
Speaker 1: I will say this though, what was that Haitian guy
Speaker 1: that they also arrested and deported back and he's like,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to Haiti. And it's like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: He's not just against the Latinos, he's against the black
Speaker 1: creole population as well. It was like, yeah, well damn it.
Speaker 1: That didn't make Trump look any less racist. It did
Speaker 1: make him look more equal in his quote unquote hatred,
Speaker 1: but not only racist against Latinos, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, like, my what's making my conspiracy census tingle right
Speaker 5: now on this particular issue is I see a lot
Speaker 5: of similarities between where we are at as a country
Speaker 5: right now and what led up to the Civil War.
Speaker 5: Right take out slavery for quote unquote human.
Speaker 2: Rights right, and it like.
Speaker 5: It's not necessarily the same thing, but it is the
Speaker 5: way it is being talked about and how divisive that
Speaker 5: issue is. And I mean you can take that with immigration,
Speaker 5: LBGT whatever issues like all, like when you round it
Speaker 5: all up in human rights, like slavery, the slavery abolition
Speaker 5: was a human human rights issue.
Speaker 1: That was the human rights to troctity and no other
Speaker 1: way to say it, for sure none.
Speaker 2: So it's like, whether you are.
Speaker 5: For or against any of the issues right now, Like
Speaker 5: I I mean, granted, I'm only thirty four, you know,
Speaker 5: I haven't been spinning on this this this uh, this,
Speaker 5: this globe, this flat plane, whatever the hell it is
Speaker 5: that we're on. Oh, if we ever, if we get
Speaker 5: to that point, I've got something I want to say
Speaker 5: about that.
Speaker 1: But we'll put a pin in that one for sure, Hellia.
Speaker 5: Because I listened to the episode and there's there's something
Speaker 5: I've been wanting to say about that that I haven't
Speaker 5: had anybody to talk to you, So I gotta get
Speaker 5: it off my chest.
Speaker 1: All right. I'll talk about that one in a minute,
Speaker 1: because honestly, I do love Tam. She was an absolute sweetheart.
Speaker 1: I may disagree with her, but she was great. But anyway, anyway,
Speaker 1: back to the illegals.
Speaker 5: Oh so, yeah, but it's yeah again, how similar we
Speaker 5: are to America leading up into the Civil War, and
Speaker 5: how divided we are, and whether I agree with it
Speaker 5: or not. And again I am not saying that Trump
Speaker 5: is Hitler, But what I am saying is that it
Speaker 5: can be argued that America right now is doing very
Speaker 5: similar things that happened in Germany in the early nineteen forties,
Speaker 5: and that is rounding up a group of people right,
Speaker 5: wronger and right, wronger and different.
Speaker 1: I see, I see at least some of the similarities.
Speaker 1: Don't even wrong. Yes, there is nuances. Clearly, we're not
Speaker 1: mass murdering anybody, and it's not for religious or creed
Speaker 1: type of issues. It's more or less just them being
Speaker 1: here when they're not supposed to be. But I do,
Speaker 1: in fact see what you're saying. And this is I
Speaker 1: think that's the big talking points of the mainstream left right.
Speaker 1: They're saying, he's just rounding up the Latinos, he's racist,
Speaker 1: he's literally hitler. It's this. I see this. Okay, I
Speaker 1: get what they're saying. I respectfully disagree. Like you said,
Speaker 1: there's if they were to do this with any other
Speaker 1: group that was doing some sort of mass illegal act,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be seen this way. Okay, I'll give you
Speaker 1: an example. I also gave the example like this to
Speaker 1: my children earlier. If I'm not mistaken, isn't it Ecuador
Speaker 1: who is like the safest country in Central America right now?
Speaker 1: Because the president came out and basically said, if you're
Speaker 1: a gang member associated with a gang member, if you
Speaker 1: have a gang member's number in your cell phone, you're
Speaker 1: guilty by association and you're going to jail. It took
Speaker 1: them two weeks to clean up the entire country. Now
Speaker 1: the prisons are overflowing, but they're all in jail. And
Speaker 1: in a matter of grand scheme of things, one month,
Speaker 1: the nation went from being a hotbed of cartel and
Speaker 1: illegal gang activity to being like the safest country, damn
Speaker 1: near on this hemisphere. Say what you want? Is that mean?
Speaker 1: Is that bigoted? Is that wrong of him to do?
Speaker 1: Did he you know, did he not do the proper
Speaker 1: channels and filter through?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 1: He basically gave a hard line. Oh what if this
Speaker 1: person's cousin happens to be a gang member and they
Speaker 1: have their number in their phone? Yo, you better delete
Speaker 1: the goddamn numbers. That's what I know. And you better
Speaker 1: not let the cops go through your phone and find
Speaker 1: the number. And that's just what it was. It worked,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. It's mean, it's ugly. Ah ooh mean
Speaker 1: it worked. The country's doing really well right now as
Speaker 1: a result of this. Now, I'm not saying that mass
Speaker 1: deportations in America are all of a sudden going to turn
Speaker 1: a new leaf for us, and we're gonna be on
Speaker 1: some sort of a new economic and moral foothold in
Speaker 1: the nations of the world. Here, I'm saying it's an
Speaker 1: excellent start, and I'm saying that the problem you have
Speaker 1: to do it somewhere. You have to start somewhere. And
Speaker 1: they tried doing the anchor baby thing, they tried doing
Speaker 1: the kids in cages for a little while. They tried
Speaker 1: all of these soft core approaches to it led to
Speaker 1: soft core results. I am not a fan of the
Speaker 1: if every if you have a hammer, every problem looks
Speaker 1: like a nail. I get this, and I'm not a
Speaker 1: fan of that type of policy. However, one plus one
Speaker 1: still equals two, and I have a feeling that in
Speaker 1: the next six months, we as a nation are going
Speaker 1: to be looking a whole lot better for for all
Speaker 1: of this to be, you know, in the rear view mirror.
Speaker 1: But what do you What are the rest of y'all
Speaker 1: think about this? We've got two other Tony's, We've got
Speaker 1: Kyl in here, we got Raven. Y'all chime in on this.
Speaker 1: What is y'all's thoughts on the mass deportations of illegals.
Speaker 1: I'll talk go forward, Tony.
Speaker 8: I think it's wonderful, you know, I live in New Jersey,
Speaker 8: so I'm I'm near Lakewood. If you guys know where
Speaker 8: that place is and who's there? You know, everywhere I go,
Speaker 8: you know, they're just they're just everywhere there's you know
Speaker 8: what's it majority like Spanish and very big, very very
Speaker 8: very big uh Jewish you know, living area. But you
Speaker 8: know what they're they're essentially the same thing, at least
Speaker 8: in my opinion at this point, because.
Speaker 1: Hispanics and Jews are the same thing in your opinion.
Speaker 8: Well, when it comes to like the living conditions, you know,
Speaker 8: living conditions here, and how they take advantage of our
Speaker 8: welfare system and everything else, because you know, at least
Speaker 8: over here, you know, they just have you know kids,
Speaker 8: You know that they stay unmarried, they have like nine kids.
Speaker 8: The husband rents out the you know, their apartment complexes
Speaker 8: to the women, and then they essentially get everything for
Speaker 8: free on top of getting food stamps and everything else.
Speaker 8: And you know, just it gets to be too much.
Speaker 8: And you know, I was telling you because when it
Speaker 8: comes to uh, you know, the taxes and all that
Speaker 8: kind of stuff. You know, I was telling you about
Speaker 8: like how you know, I just got prett approved and
Speaker 8: you know the state taxes for like property like around Paton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to say go in on this one
Speaker 1: because you and I were dmon on the Patreon for
Speaker 1: the Cold of Conspiracy. For everybody who's chiming in here
Speaker 1: and listening for the first time on the Cage to Night,
Speaker 1: give the background to the situation in New Jersey right now. Bro,
Speaker 1: that blew my mind.
Speaker 8: Yeah. So pretty much you can't buy a house that's
Speaker 8: not a rundown piece of shit for like less than
Speaker 8: three hundred thousand, Like I'm I've been looking for probably
Speaker 8: over a year and a half. You know, my brother
Speaker 8: got lucky three years ago. You know, he he bought
Speaker 8: a house that just got rebuilt from actually sandy like
Speaker 8: way back in the day.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but uh, you know he got lucky with the
Speaker 8: interest rate. You know, he got it when it was
Speaker 8: like three percent. And now you know, with me, you know,
Speaker 8: as I'm looking, you know, I got pretty proved for
Speaker 8: three hundred thousand, but my interest rates almost seven percent.
Speaker 8: That's for first first home time you know, first home
Speaker 8: time buyers and all that.
Speaker 1: From the home buyer, you're getting seven bro, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're getting You're getting railed.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and then on top of that, you know, I
Speaker 8: had to be very careful for where I look for
Speaker 8: houses because you know, I'm in Ocean County, so it's
Speaker 8: it can vary, it can swing hard. So the lowest
Speaker 8: I found for like taxes is like maybe twenty four hundred,
Speaker 8: but it goes all the way up to thirteen thousand,
Speaker 8: and you know for a year for just you know,
Speaker 8: for the property tax and all that. It's just it's
Speaker 8: just terrible. And you know, I been saving my money
Speaker 8: for I don't know how long at this point, close
Speaker 8: to two years. But you know, I diversified. I have
Speaker 8: a lot of silver. You know, I've been mingling with
Speaker 8: the crypto right now.
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Speaker 8: No, it's all good, kind of through that alley for you.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, my boy.
Speaker 8: You know, I've just been diversifying and just really saving.
Speaker 8: But at this point, you know, I'm just gonna wait
Speaker 8: and see if the interest rates go down, because you know,
Speaker 8: I've I've been keeping a close eye on like all
Speaker 8: the policies and stuff going through, and you know, Trump's
Speaker 8: really trying to h lower it. So maybe I'll go lucky.
Speaker 1: You're saying that not just the housing market, but the
Speaker 1: job market and everything else as far as New Jersey goes,
Speaker 1: You're saying that that has been a direct impacted system
Speaker 1: based off of the illegal immigration.
Speaker 8: I think so, yeah, because every because you know, I'm
Speaker 8: a I'm a road tech. I fix forklifts. You know,
Speaker 8: I just drive statewide. You know, I'll even go up
Speaker 8: to New York Sylvania sometimes, but uh, you know, everywhere
Speaker 8: I got, dude just loaded. You know, no one speaks
Speaker 8: English at all. You know, it's it's it's crazy. And
Speaker 8: on top of that, you know they're they're they're not hired.
Speaker 8: You know, they're just under the table. Every every single
Speaker 8: warehouse I go to, you know, they're all like multimillion
Speaker 8: dollar warehouses and there's not a single employee. You know,
Speaker 8: these these businesses are just cashing out like crazy and
Speaker 8: they're just they're not helping, you know, no doubt.
Speaker 1: And again, I I'm torn on this one on my
Speaker 1: own front, but that's for my own selfish reasons. Like,
Speaker 1: for instance, I love authentic Mexican food. Oh yeah, if
Speaker 1: if I go to a Mexican restaurant and there's a
Speaker 1: white person serving me, I'm probably gonna leave. Gonna be
Speaker 1: straight up. If it's text mechs, that's different. It's different genre.
Speaker 1: But like I don't want Tracy or Stacey in the
Speaker 1: back making them to maales you. I want Loope in
Speaker 1: the bag making them to malaies. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's just me. And if I'm going to get some pasole,
Speaker 1: I want it to be authentic. But that's I'm a
Speaker 1: little different on that front. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I have so many people I know in my personal
Speaker 1: life from not just my time in the military, but
Speaker 1: even just in the comings and goings of your day
Speaker 1: to day that I know that came here legally and
Speaker 1: went through the at some times decade long process to
Speaker 1: get their paperwork to be here legally, and they are
Speaker 1: not trying to make America more like Mexico. They are
Speaker 1: super proud to be American. Man, they bleed red, white
Speaker 1: and blue. So whenever I see the process that these
Speaker 1: people went through to become American citizens, and then I
Speaker 1: see these other people who are coming across illegally, they're
Speaker 1: trying to do everything they can to change America to
Speaker 1: their culture. It's it's not the way. It's not the
Speaker 1: way at all. And now I haven't heard of the
Speaker 1: mass illegal influx into New Jersey before, but then again
Speaker 1: I'm not there, you know what I mean?
Speaker 8: It was crazy. It's crazy because you know, when when
Speaker 8: New York got a lot of heat, a lot of
Speaker 8: them got sent over here. Wow. So there they're sleeping.
Speaker 8: They're pretty much sleeping in the streets behind Like I
Speaker 8: don't know if you ever been to like the east
Speaker 8: coast of Flake wah wah and stuff like that, they're
Speaker 8: like in the parking lot just setting up camps and shit,
Speaker 8: you know, like it's crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So whenever I lived in d C was from
Speaker 1: twenty ten to twenty fourteen, and I went up to
Speaker 1: New York, Atlantic City, Philly, Boston. I mean, I've been
Speaker 1: in and out of New York more times than I
Speaker 1: can count for the record, cannot stand the city. It
Speaker 1: was cool the first five times I went. After that,
Speaker 1: I really started to have a disdain for the entirety
Speaker 1: of the city. But that's neither here nor there Yet.
Speaker 1: New Jersey. I like certain areas of it, certain areas
Speaker 1: of trash.
Speaker 2: I'll stand by that.
Speaker 1: Same with Maryland, for instance, Like Baltimore sucks. I really
Speaker 1: hate Baltimore, but like you go out to more of
Speaker 1: the rural and farm areas, beautiful country, beautiful people. New
Speaker 1: Jersey the exact same way. Like Hoboken is not all that, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it's really not. It's cool to go check
Speaker 1: out a couple of times, but after that, it's like, Yo,
Speaker 1: there's way more New Jersey than just the Turnpike.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 1: That's just I know, I'm weird for this, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I never saw much of an illegal influx there. But
Speaker 1: I understand what you mean as far as like outside
Speaker 1: and is the homeless community really more of the illegal
Speaker 1: community or is that more of the heroin addict homeless
Speaker 1: by choice situation there?
Speaker 8: Well, at least from what I could see and tell,
Speaker 8: a lot a lot of the immigrants get free housing
Speaker 8: from like apartments and stuff like that, like the government
Speaker 8: will fund them to live in actual houses and shit,
Speaker 8: and just you know, the people that can't afford stuff,
Speaker 8: like me, you know, they live in the streets for there.
Speaker 1: They won't take care of their veteran population. But the illegals, hey,
Speaker 1: we got government programs for that. It's crazy that works.
Speaker 8: Mhmm, yeah, it's it's it's pretty nuts. But you know,
Speaker 8: what are you going to do? You know, I see
Speaker 8: ice a lot around here too, So it's crazy. They're
Speaker 8: they're arresting people left and right. And you know, I
Speaker 8: I personally think that New Jersey is going to go
Speaker 8: red like next four years, like next election, just because
Speaker 8: of how many people they are going to take, you know,
Speaker 8: remove from New Jersey. I think it's going to swing
Speaker 8: at big time.
Speaker 1: Okay, now let's talk about that real quick. Does New
Speaker 1: Jersey have voter ID laws or do you not just
Speaker 1: show any kind of idea to go vote?
Speaker 8: No? I just showed up and just did whatever. Really, yeah,
Speaker 8: it's it's really bad.
Speaker 1: It's very possible New Jersey turns red in this next election. Now,
Speaker 1: all right, real quick, swapping over to the other Tony
Speaker 1: on Chat. Now, I know you live in Texas, so
Speaker 1: you are closer to the border, you would see a
Speaker 1: lot of this more than others. What is your take
Speaker 1: on everything going on right now?
Speaker 6: Well, we got a voter ID for sure. I see
Speaker 6: a lot of Mexican people in my line of work
Speaker 6: because I work in a lot of food manufacturing facilities.
Speaker 1: Real quick, do you mean Mexican or Latino? That's broader,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Oh, primarily Mexican. Okay, driving around Texas you see a
Speaker 6: lot of Mexican driving license plates too, from Tamalipas, Coohila, Chihuahua, Nouiva, Leone, Durango,
Speaker 6: any kind of Mexican plates. So yeah, specifically, it's mostly
Speaker 6: Mexican here. Heard them and I haven't really noticed much
Speaker 6: of a change in attitudes, But I haven't been paying
Speaker 6: super close attention either. I don't think most of them
Speaker 6: are terribly worried in my opinion.
Speaker 1: That's fair. But I mean the ones that are here
Speaker 1: flying the Mexican flag and with those license plates, they're
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of where they're from and what they're
Speaker 1: doing there. They're there for work or something like that.
Speaker 1: The illegals there trying to hide and get the fake
Speaker 1: papers and everything like that. My thought would be that
Speaker 1: they would get as far away from the border as possible,
Speaker 1: i e. Portland or New Jersey or Chicago. What if
Speaker 1: the case was you wouldn't make it across the border
Speaker 1: to stay right there. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 8: Well.
Speaker 6: On other thing is we got a lot of border
Speaker 6: checkpoints depending where you go within the state on the freeway,
Speaker 6: so you will stop it be stopped by cops or
Speaker 6: border patrol in the last are you a citizen and
Speaker 6: you just say yes and they say have a nice
Speaker 6: day and wave you on unless they think you are
Speaker 6: suspicious or something in your carlic suspicious. And yeah, overall,
Speaker 6: I would say, like people aren't too worried about border
Speaker 6: enforcement right now. But that's just the circles I run it. Also,
Speaker 6: I go back and forth between El Paso and see
Speaker 6: dot Juarez at least twice a year, and I've heard
Speaker 6: about a lot of drama happening there, like people rushing
Speaker 6: the border from Mexico, but personally, I've never seen it,
Speaker 6: and every time I've gone across, it's very peaceful. There
Speaker 6: are lots of high school students that walk across that border.
Speaker 6: Crossing every day. So I'm hoping that it stays as
Speaker 6: peaceful as I have seen it, because I've never seen
Speaker 6: anything super dramatic, no.
Speaker 1: Doubt, no doubt, And I really do hope that everything
Speaker 1: does stay peaceful as far as yes, there's the mass deportations. Yes,
Speaker 1: ICE is breaking into places and quote unquote breaking in
Speaker 1: legally with warrants, going into places and getting the illegals out.
Speaker 1: I really do hope that these things do stay peaceful.
Speaker 1: We don't need gunfights breaking off in random cities across
Speaker 1: America because illegals decide they're not going back and things
Speaker 1: like that. So I'm with you on that front.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we need to encourage all the right people to
Speaker 6: be here and people to be wherever they belong. So,
Speaker 6: for example, all the refugees in Germany right now, I'm
Speaker 6: hoping that I told my uncle because he works with
Speaker 6: a lot of refugees. I'm hoping a lot of them
Speaker 6: just go home now, because if they were fleeing from
Speaker 6: Bashar al Asad, he's gone now, can't they just go home?
Speaker 6: Don't a lot of them want to go home if
Speaker 6: they don't speak the language in Germany, for example, and
Speaker 6: they don't have the occupational licenses they need. Yeah, by
Speaker 6: all means, they should just go home. That's where they belong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Syria is also like a ridiculously fractured nation
Speaker 1: right now, is it not. I haven't checked in on
Speaker 1: it in about two weeks. Last time I saw it
Speaker 1: was like a nation that's basically segments it off into
Speaker 1: eight different territories, and depending on which warlord slash group
Speaker 1: is running that section depends on how well you'll get
Speaker 1: along there.
Speaker 6: I don't know, you know, yeah, this rum runs most
Speaker 6: of it right now. And I heard something that I
Speaker 6: thought would interest you. Apparently the US did an airstrack
Speaker 6: on Idlib and killed a bunch of Wigers because there's
Speaker 6: been quite a lot of Wiger Muslims fighting in Afghanistan
Speaker 6: and Syria for a long time because they're Muslim. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and yeah, they've actually been CIA assets for a long time,
Speaker 6: which is a part of this whole Weiger versus China problem.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Weiger Muslims are a weird subset.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: I don't mean weird to say that they themselves are
Speaker 1: weird people, but as far as how they fit into
Speaker 1: the quote unquote stereotypical Islamic vibe they're kind of the outliers,
Speaker 1: and so we've had these mass executions that what was
Speaker 1: that the Buddhist monks took to the streets and started
Speaker 1: just slaughtering Weiger Muslims and there was a alleged genocide
Speaker 1: going down in China over this whole event. I haven't
Speaker 1: heard anything about a US air strike in Syria trying
Speaker 1: to take out some Wigers. That's a new, a new
Speaker 1: little twist on it.
Speaker 6: Okay, I think maybe they don't get along with with
Speaker 6: Hyattreral scham hts. That's my overall impression. Let me see,
Speaker 6: let me see if I can google it and just
Speaker 6: confirm it. So it's just something I'm pulling out of
Speaker 6: my butt.
Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to remember if the Wigers, I want
Speaker 1: to say they're Sheite, aren't they or like a subset thereof.
Speaker 6: I'm guessing more Sunni. The only Hazzara, the only Shia
Speaker 6: I'm aware of in Central Asia are the Hazaras and
Speaker 6: their minority in Afghanistan.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but then again, I thought the Wigers were
Speaker 1: kind of a minority in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why I'm attributing them to the same group.
Speaker 1: I could be completely off base here, but I mean,
Speaker 1: look at the Kurds. The Kurds are they are definitely
Speaker 1: Islamic and everyone hates them just for the hell of
Speaker 1: it that that's like a whole thing within them. So
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe the Wigers are kind of a second
Speaker 1: tier group of them, or at least seen in the
Speaker 1: same light as that. So Okay, now, I know the
Speaker 1: US just did an air strike in Africa, and we
Speaker 1: also did an air strike and took out an entire
Speaker 1: as long Isis encampment. I didn't know we had dropped
Speaker 1: the air strike into Syria. That's a that's a move.
Speaker 1: That's a flex for sure.
Speaker 6: Okay, maybe a it's old. I'm seeing a result from
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Uh no way, and Biden Biden approved an airstrike on
Speaker 1: the Wigers.
Speaker 6: Well, it wouldn't have been them explicitly per sere more
Speaker 6: along the lines that they're just a group in Idlab
Speaker 6: among many other sunny anti Asade groups that don't always
Speaker 6: get along with each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so they are sonny, Okay, good to know. Interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I really don't know what's gonna happen with Siria right now.
Speaker 1: I know they've got a new flag, and so therefore
Speaker 1: new flag knew me kind of jam or at least
Speaker 1: that's the image they're trying to portray.
Speaker 8: Ah.
Speaker 6: Actually, yeah, there was one this week, six days ago.
Speaker 1: Okay in okay, excellent, Well, I mean not excellent, but
Speaker 1: I'm glad you were on the right track. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: I should I should throw proper respect on that people died,
Speaker 1: But yeah, with you, man, what a strange time, y'all.
Speaker 1: I mean, at the same time, if there was an
Speaker 1: air strike that was to go down in Syria right now,
Speaker 1: there had to have been a greater tactical reason behind it,
Speaker 1: right There had to have been a mission. It couldn't
Speaker 1: have just been because oh these people are terrorists boom.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe that's what Donni t is doing, but
Speaker 1: I feel like there would have been more of a
Speaker 1: strategic reason that that area would have gotten hit, especially
Speaker 1: this week as he's signing these crazy executive orders and
Speaker 1: he's making more strategic moves as far as what he's
Speaker 1: wanting to do for our country. I can't imagine he's
Speaker 1: dropping bombs just because he feels like it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, my guess is that Israel and a lot of
Speaker 6: the US Deep State want to prop up this new
Speaker 6: Syrian regime as much as possible and give it as
Speaker 6: much legitimacy as possible. But it's a very divided country,
Speaker 6: even among the Sunnies. So maybe this it libed group
Speaker 6: was making t for HTS and uh, it's the same
Speaker 6: reason the US is attacking Isis because Isis makes trouble
Speaker 6: for HTS there. They're a terrorist group that can be
Speaker 6: convenient for the US and Israel sometimes but other times
Speaker 6: when they're not, US and Israel feel no compunction and
Speaker 6: dropping some bombs on them real.
Speaker 1: Quick for the unlearned HTS would.
Speaker 6: Be hyattreer al sham.
Speaker 1: Okay, Megan, sure we're all on the same page here,
Speaker 1: big dog. With that being said, all right, not to
Speaker 1: get off of the illegal immigration policy, but kind of
Speaker 1: in the same sense here as far as Syria is concerned,
Speaker 1: I have heard little rumors in the in the internet
Speaker 1: sphere that the Kurds may hypothetically move into Syria and
Speaker 1: use that as their base to set up Kurdistan like
Speaker 1: Kurdistan proper. What are your thoughts on that, Tony. You're
Speaker 1: a little more well read in world politics the most
Speaker 1: what is your take on this.
Speaker 6: On the US setting up.
Speaker 1: On the Kurds, the Kurds moving into Syria and basically
Speaker 1: setting up a base of operation, being like boom our Land,
Speaker 1: this is Kurdistan, let's roll.
Speaker 6: Well, they've been trying to do that for a little
Speaker 6: while in other countries too, like Iraq they had this
Speaker 6: semi autonomous region up in the north. But every time
Speaker 6: they've made any kind of moves to gain as much
Speaker 6: independence as they can, the Turks, the Iraqis, the Iranians,
Speaker 6: and the Syrians all team up against them somehow behind
Speaker 6: the scenes and prevent them from having a Kurdistan. I
Speaker 6: don't know much about the Kurdish culture or history. I'm
Speaker 6: aware some people say it's all fake, and I don't
Speaker 6: think I believe that. I know they do speak Arabic
Speaker 6: and they're almost all Sunni Muslims, although there's some religious
Speaker 6: diversity too. Yeah, but yeah, they seem like they really
Speaker 6: just don't like other Arabs, if they can even be
Speaker 6: conci or a subset of Arabs. And they also seem
Speaker 6: like their strategic allies of Israel, the other being Iserbaijan,
Speaker 6: the other regional friend of Israel in that area.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a fair comparison to say that
Speaker 1: Azerbai Johnny's as well as the Kurdish population. Enemy of
Speaker 1: my enemy is my friend kind of thing. It's not
Speaker 1: like the Kurds are fans of Israel by any means,
Speaker 1: but the Kurds also get shipped on by the same
Speaker 1: groups that shit on Israel and vice versa. So it's
Speaker 1: kind of in the same flavor, if you will. So,
Speaker 1: but that's the point. So Syria has always jumped on them. Turkey,
Speaker 1: I mean hell, a third of the Turkish area they
Speaker 1: tried succeeding and making Kurdistan that got shut down, like
Speaker 1: you said, the north of Iraq, same thing happened. They
Speaker 1: got gassed by Saddam at one point over it, along
Speaker 1: with the Azerbai Johnnis. I don't know if the Kurds
Speaker 1: were actually moving into Syria in mass numbers to try
Speaker 1: to set up their own base of operations, that would
Speaker 1: be dope to me, that would be really cool. I
Speaker 1: just I don't I haven't seen enough evidence to say
Speaker 1: that it is a guaranteed thing that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I'm hearing rumors that's about it at this time. So
Speaker 1: I didn't know if maybe you had heard more of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they tried. Back in twenty fourteen fifteen, there was
Speaker 6: this big party called the Kurdish WHITEPG. I have no
Speaker 6: idea what that stands for, but.
Speaker 1: The fighters, they're insane as far as like a fighting
Speaker 1: force goes. They dropped their I'm going to again try
Speaker 1: to watch my mouth here. Their their care or their
Speaker 1: quality of life for themselves. No, they run into it
Speaker 1: absolutely with the religious fervor of it's either I die
Speaker 1: or you die. Today. The Pershberger fighters, the White PK
Speaker 1: are pretty solid and very capable fighters for sure, but continue.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, they tried to carve out their own state
Speaker 6: at that time with some success, and maybe they're holding
Speaker 6: on to hope they can do it again. I'm pretty
Speaker 6: sure the name of the party is WHITEPG, but there's
Speaker 6: another one called the PKK in Turkey, and Turkey hates
Speaker 6: their guts, Yeah, wants to kill them.
Speaker 1: Turkey would be that resident quote unquote bad boy of
Speaker 1: the of NATO and the UN and everything else too.
Speaker 1: So I mean, yeah, they they're that group that we
Speaker 1: don't like but we have to be cool with. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a whole other thing.
Speaker 6: Too, because there's no mechanism for kicking anyone out of NATO.
Speaker 6: So eventually, I don't know. Maybe NATO just gets so
Speaker 6: big with so many groups that don't like each other
Speaker 6: that it has to fall apart if we admit too
Speaker 6: many people and wait too long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very possible now, all right to shift gears
Speaker 1: here slightly. Everybody in the chat here today talking about NATO.
Speaker 1: I brought up the UN a moment ago, Trump pulling
Speaker 1: out of the NATO Humanitarian Aid grouping. What does everybody's
Speaker 1: take on this one? I'm not I'm kind of in
Speaker 1: the gray area on this. I see it as a
Speaker 1: good because we're not going to be giving millions and
Speaker 1: billions of dollars to randomness every single year just for
Speaker 1: the hell of it. I think that's a positive thing
Speaker 1: for us. Same time, that's kind of a massive power play.
Speaker 1: That's a huge move for us to pull out of
Speaker 1: the thing that we were basically funding the vast majority
Speaker 1: of How do y'all think that's going to play out
Speaker 1: on the world stage?
Speaker 6: So is this US eight or is this a different group?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no, no, not usaid. He pulled us out
Speaker 1: of the Humanitarian Aid grouping of NATO, so America will
Speaker 1: no longer be sending money to countries just to send
Speaker 1: moneys to countries because we care so much and we're
Speaker 1: so magnanimous. The problem is that that's gonna look really
Speaker 1: poorly on the UN or yeah, the UN, because now
Speaker 1: other countries are gonna have to pony up and foot
Speaker 1: the bill for the same type of humanitarian aid. Zombie
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 9: It is actually, if I can remember the treaty, the
Speaker 9: treaty as it stands right now pretty much means like US,
Speaker 9: China and like two others because with the superpowers of
Speaker 9: the world, if something was to happen, we have to
Speaker 9: front the bill of everything, so like if it according
Speaker 9: to the UN treaties that they've signed pretty much because
Speaker 9: if the smaller nations get attacked or they're like infamine
Speaker 9: or something like that, it's up to the superpower nations
Speaker 9: to step in and actually provide aid and like try
Speaker 9: to reset the nation that's struggling and everything like that,
Speaker 9: and him pulling out of it because China has been
Speaker 9: pretty much fronting the bill to us the entire time,
Speaker 9: and most people don't realize that that this is going
Speaker 9: to shift the power plays and force Germany's hand also
Speaker 9: to like actually start picking up some of the slack
Speaker 9: and some of the other countries that have been wanting
Speaker 9: to not be considered a superpower. So I'm curious to
Speaker 9: see what's going to happen, because there's so many things
Speaker 9: that are happening, Like the famine that's actually going on
Speaker 9: right now has been we the America has been funding
Speaker 9: it to provide aid. But if we shift out of it,
Speaker 9: then who else is going to take over? So I
Speaker 9: don't know. I think it's it's an interesting move because
Speaker 9: it also puts us at a liability because if something
Speaker 9: was to happen to our country, then we have no
Speaker 9: one to come backups. Nobody will come unless, like we
Speaker 9: have treaties with them.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you, but I have a weird feeling
Speaker 1: that if America was to hit some sort of a
Speaker 1: crazy hardship, not many nations would be lining up to
Speaker 1: hook us up. We I feel like we pissed in
Speaker 1: enough cheerios to where enough people would be like, you
Speaker 1: know what, America can figure it out, They'll be fine.
Speaker 1: But I do think it's interesting, Like you said, Germany
Speaker 1: will have to start quote unquote like ponying up. Germany
Speaker 1: is in the middle, Tony, correct me if I'm wrong
Speaker 1: on this one. Germany is in the middle of a
Speaker 1: very tumultuous transition right now, not just at the seat
Speaker 1: of power of who's run the nation, but even culturally speaking.
Speaker 1: Merkel screwed the country for so long that now it's
Speaker 1: like they're doing the what would be considered the over
Speaker 1: correction in that regard, so America pulling out of giving
Speaker 1: all these aid packages and stuff. I can't see Germany
Speaker 1: really stepping up to fill that gap. If anything, Germany's
Speaker 1: gonna go more internal and worry about Germany at this time,
Speaker 1: which I would think would be a very wise thing
Speaker 1: for them to do. And if that was to happen,
Speaker 1: these third world countries who rely on that aid to
Speaker 1: make ends meet every single year, they're gonna be left
Speaker 1: to their own devices, which may in fact lead to
Speaker 1: what we have right now with South Africa and Zimbabwe
Speaker 1: going into an all out quote unquote civil war over
Speaker 1: the Democratic Republic of the Congo. But that to talk
Speaker 1: for another day. But Tony, from what you've heard about
Speaker 1: with Germany right now, do you think they would be
Speaker 1: able to pony up and fill the gap of America
Speaker 1: or they pretty much gonna go into a little bit
Speaker 1: more of isolationist mode.
Speaker 6: Right now, I am thinking there'll be more isolationists. I
Speaker 6: don't think there's much in it for them to be
Speaker 6: given more aid to anybody. And right now, the overall
Speaker 6: political attitude in Germany has been getting more and more
Speaker 6: in favor of the af D party, which stands for
Speaker 6: Alternative Deutschland, which basically didn't exist five six years ago.
Speaker 6: They were really small, very much you know, let's do
Speaker 6: something about this immigration problem, and that's the two main
Speaker 6: parties in Germany have been the Social Democratic Party of Germany,
Speaker 6: the SPA day and the coalition of the Christian Social
Speaker 6: Union and the Christian Democrat Union, which are the right
Speaker 6: wing coalition. And there's a couple other smaller ones, the Greens,
Speaker 6: the left and the FDP fria Deutsche Partei.
Speaker 1: And is that like the same general vibe as the
Speaker 1: excuse of the Green Party in America.
Speaker 6: Is very similar to the American Green Party, except they
Speaker 6: somehow they're always around five percent of the vote. But
Speaker 6: this AfD alternative for Deutsche Land, it's gotten much more popular,
Speaker 6: like exponentially more popular every year so they're about equal
Speaker 6: to SPDA and CSUCDU.
Speaker 1: And I've heard they're more of an alt right I
Speaker 1: don't want to say extremist party, because that's negative, but
Speaker 1: they are seen as an alt right or far right party,
Speaker 1: which would kind of be in that over correction to
Speaker 1: get away from Merkel and all of her ilk correct.
Speaker 6: Yeah, they are the farthest right, but they do everything
Speaker 6: they can to avoid being associated with Hitler. So their
Speaker 6: leader Alice Videl says that, oh, Hitler was actually a leftist.
Speaker 6: Hitler was actually a communist.
Speaker 1: I mean, if we're gonna get technical, the S and
Speaker 1: Nazi or the Z excuse me, stood for socialist, So
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.
Speaker 6: Well, well, every other week or so, there's some other
Speaker 6: crime committed by some immigrant or refugee in Germany and
Speaker 6: that drives up the AfD. These pull numbers by like
Speaker 6: another one or two percent. There was a Muslim in
Speaker 6: a Schoffenberg that killed some kid like a week ago,
Speaker 6: and you know, every time that happens, if these numbers
Speaker 6: go up one or two percent, And they got an
Speaker 6: election coming up February twenty third, so uh, they're probably
Speaker 6: gonna do really well, the best they've ever done. And
Speaker 6: Germany's gonna be more you know, isolationists and more anti
Speaker 6: immigrant mode. And you know, I don't think it has
Speaker 6: to be hostile to any other country, but there's this
Speaker 6: sense that there's enough people here already and they don't
Speaker 6: belong here, and they're from other parts of the world.
Speaker 6: They should be able to prosper where they belong and
Speaker 6: not come here and demographically replace us. And talking about
Speaker 6: demography maybe controversial, but you know, these big swings in
Speaker 6: population happening too fast are gonna piss people off, and
Speaker 6: they're already doing that. So some people are supporting AFT
Speaker 6: more and more. And when I go on Shaohongshu, which
Speaker 6: I know you hate that I got that app, but
Speaker 6: a lot of Chinese people seem to really love Alice
Speaker 6: Vitel because she studied economics in China for six years
Speaker 6: and she speaks Chinese. So you know, Germany and China
Speaker 6: will get along. They always have, to my knowledge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the record, Tony, I've said many times that
Speaker 1: downloaded the app was guilty of treason. I don't think
Speaker 1: you're a part of that group. You didn't download that
Speaker 1: group to stick it to the American government. You downloaded
Speaker 1: that app for your own curiosity and for your own
Speaker 1: looking at narratives from other perspectives. And I know who
Speaker 1: you are, so I don't believe that you're a trader
Speaker 1: binding me.
Speaker 6: I know. And you said that before I told you
Speaker 6: I downloaded, so yeah, yeah, yeah. And I also want
Speaker 6: to practice Chinese a little bit. And uh, there's just uh,
Speaker 6: I don't know, plenty other reasons to be on there,
Speaker 6: but it kind of sucks in terms of politics. They
Speaker 6: try to stay away from politics with the algorithm, but
Speaker 6: there's a lot of interest in European history, more than
Speaker 6: I thought there would be.
Speaker 1: That's gonda interesting. Anthony, go ahead, your hand's been raised
Speaker 1: for a little men and chime in on this one. Brother.
Speaker 5: Okay, So I just got to start off by saying, Tony,
Speaker 5: your voice does not match your face at all.
Speaker 2: Bro. I thought like a little bit.
Speaker 5: Older gentleman, like like a William Ramsey, And you are
Speaker 5: significantly younger than what your voice like.
Speaker 2: I mean that in the highest compliment.
Speaker 1: Very well do you think he is, bro?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: I thought he was.
Speaker 2: I thought he was like up there with William Ramsey.
Speaker 5: Really I did, like, like, genuinely all duer s is
Speaker 5: very articulate, he's got he's got a deep voice. He
Speaker 5: presents himself very well, like I thought he was an
Speaker 5: older gentleman like William Ramsey.
Speaker 1: Okay, oh no, I know Tony personally. Actually, me and
Speaker 1: him have met face to face multiple times. He used
Speaker 1: to come on the job site that I work, so
Speaker 1: I knew him before the whole podcast thing actually became
Speaker 1: a thing. He's a true homie one hundred percent. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah.
Speaker 2: Out there.
Speaker 1: That's awesome.
Speaker 5: But anyways, getting to the topic, like I don't know,
Speaker 5: I like, if we're pulling, if we're not having to
Speaker 5: front the bill for people that can't pay for themselves,
Speaker 5: like we've got money, Like we have things in house
Speaker 5: that we need money to clean up. Sure, you know,
Speaker 5: and if we're if we're going to be the world's police,
Speaker 5: we can't be the world's charity too, bro.
Speaker 1: I literally was having this conversation with the kids. It's like, look,
Speaker 1: America is seen as the world's police, but as soon
Speaker 1: as we deploy people somewhere to do what quote unquote
Speaker 1: needs to be done, almost one month later, they're pissed
Speaker 1: off that we're there and we need to send ourselves
Speaker 1: back and we no one asked you to be here
Speaker 1: and all of this, so it's like we're damned before
Speaker 1: we do, and we're damned if we don't, no matter
Speaker 1: which way the chips fall.
Speaker 5: And I mean for I guess for me, like looking
Speaker 5: at it's like how our country has been the last
Speaker 5: five ten years, Like if like I honestly think we
Speaker 5: should take a hard isolation miss approach for a while.
Speaker 5: We obviously have our own issues that we got to
Speaker 5: get ironed out and taken care of. And the world
Speaker 5: is saying that they don't want or need our help.
Speaker 5: So if we've got a bunch of third world countries
Speaker 5: turning into war zones because they don't want or need
Speaker 5: our help, like I'm sorry, unless it's like Russia, China,
Speaker 5: Saudi Arabia, like somebody a country that could actually be
Speaker 5: a threat, Like I mean, is the things going on
Speaker 5: in Africa right now a horrible atrocity?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Is it our business?
Speaker 6: Know?
Speaker 5: Like we don't lose anything from not helping them, and
Speaker 5: we don't gain anything from helping them. And I think
Speaker 5: more often we are shooting ourselves in the foot by
Speaker 5: aligning ourselves with other countries that do not give us
Speaker 5: any benefit for the sole purpose of political cloud or ideology,
Speaker 5: like we are sacrificing ourselves for the benefit of others
Speaker 5: with no return, Like it's a meaningless, slow suicide.
Speaker 1: I can see what you're saying, but there's nuances to them, right,
Speaker 1: Like I just not the countries you name, because like
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, for instance, they're an ally. They're not in
Speaker 1: the conversation. Russia's got their own shit going on. China,
Speaker 1: I got my own vendetta against them. But fair I
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. It's like, we're damned if we're
Speaker 1: do and we're damned if we don't. So us taking
Speaker 1: an isolationist approach for the next few years I think
Speaker 1: would be beneficial that being said. And I gotta be
Speaker 1: careful on how I were this one. And I would
Speaker 1: love to hear everybody's two cents on this one. I
Speaker 1: see you, Raven, we will I do want to hear
Speaker 1: from you here in a second. The world has a
Speaker 1: habit of every time that you're trying to mine your
Speaker 1: business and do your own thing, life will throw a
Speaker 1: curveball at you that just puts you right back into
Speaker 1: the middle of the shit you tried to get out
Speaker 1: of that seems to be a going trend. So it's like,
Speaker 1: if we were to take a hard isolationist approach for
Speaker 1: the next two years, four years, ten years, whatever the
Speaker 1: case would be, I have a feeling that somehow, within
Speaker 1: the next twelve months we would get dragged into some
Speaker 1: other conflict in some nation that we kind of have
Speaker 1: to get involved in because this or that or the
Speaker 1: third or whatever the case was. It's it's almost like
Speaker 1: we've said our to be those guys, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I don't know I would support an isolation
Speaker 1: this approach, especially during Trump's reign. Let's let's get our
Speaker 1: own our own home base situated, let's get our own
Speaker 1: tax laws organized, let's get our military revitalized, let's secure
Speaker 1: our borders, all these things. But I just have this
Speaker 1: weird feeling that we're gonna get not attacked necessarily, but
Speaker 1: something's gonna happen to where America is gonna have to
Speaker 1: get involved somewhere else. And it's I hope I'm wrong, God,
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. But anyway, anyway, I digress, Raven,
Speaker 1: what is your two cents?
Speaker 9: Well, I'm gonna answer Tony because we were talking in
Speaker 9: the chat.
Speaker 1: So to be more.
Speaker 9: Clarifying, China was asked before COVID and during COVID by
Speaker 9: Germany to increase their spending. So their annual spending every
Speaker 9: year roughly for their humanitarian is one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 9: So let's are like bastline that they have to give.
Speaker 9: During COVID they increased it by fifty million to give
Speaker 9: to the who they gave another like thirty million here
Speaker 9: and there. But when I was saying that if we
Speaker 9: pull out, so as of right now we are the
Speaker 9: top contributors, we're around roughly six point eight to ten
Speaker 9: billion dollars a year that we give out to a
Speaker 9: whole bunch of countries. You can google the stats. It
Speaker 9: tells you all of who's doing it. Next in line
Speaker 9: is Germany. Germany is the one that's actually been giving
Speaker 9: out the top but they call on China to aid
Speaker 9: to increase their funding for whatever you in issue that's happening.
Speaker 9: Germany goes to China is like, hey, can we get
Speaker 9: some more money, and then depending on the Commonist Party,
Speaker 9: they decide if they're going to give it out or not.
Speaker 9: So with Americans pulling out, that means the majority of
Speaker 9: the funding for all of the countries that have been
Speaker 9: receiving aid in various ways is now going to be
Speaker 9: ripped away. So that means technically they're going to either
Speaker 9: have to rewrite the treaties that state the superpowers are
Speaker 9: going to be shifting, and that means that China's going
Speaker 9: to have to either pick up the slack or Jerney's
Speaker 9: going to pull out, or they're going to have to
Speaker 9: figure out with the other people that are in the
Speaker 9: un that are going to be participating who is going
Speaker 9: to pick up the slack for the American the Americans
Speaker 9: pulling out, But that also means that that's going to
Speaker 9: bring all that money back to us. But we're going
Speaker 9: to have to like stockpile shit because no one is
Speaker 9: going to come to our aid if something happens. Technically,
Speaker 9: because you did say that, like, if something happened, nobody
Speaker 9: would really be lining up. It doesn't really matter if
Speaker 9: they like us or not. There's so many treaties in
Speaker 9: play and so many different things that they cannot not
Speaker 9: back us up. If we were still participating, and because
Speaker 9: we were the biggest donators, they had to come to
Speaker 9: our aid. Now they don't have.
Speaker 1: To that's a fair point. And I don't know how
Speaker 1: many countries we have treaties that would actually be obligated
Speaker 1: to help us if we were the ones that were
Speaker 1: in time of need or something like that. I feel
Speaker 1: like that list is vast, but dot dot I feel
Speaker 1: like most of the countries that we have treaties with, Yes,
Speaker 1: of course there's exceptions, Germany being one of them. I
Speaker 1: feel like most of those countries couldn't help out if
Speaker 1: they had to, like not even that they would choose
Speaker 1: not to. They actually don't even have the resources to
Speaker 1: help even if they like physically had to, I mean
Speaker 1: help most of the NATO countries, and not just militarily.
Speaker 1: But I'll use that as an example. Most of the
Speaker 1: NATO countries haven't even spent the bare minimum amount on
Speaker 1: their military that they have been supposed to in like
Speaker 1: what eight years or something like that, So I mean,
Speaker 1: who knows. Maybe they are allocating all these funds for
Speaker 1: humanitarian aid and they would be able to help if
Speaker 1: something like that happened. I just I got a hard
Speaker 1: time believing that if America fell on hard times that
Speaker 1: the countries of Europe that are supposed to be our
Speaker 1: homies would actually send more than thoughts and prayers. Maybe
Speaker 1: I'm wrong, Maybe I'm just a pessimist here, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe maybe that's incorrect. Maybe these treaties would
Speaker 1: stand up, and maybe these people, these countries would actually
Speaker 1: start sending real aid towards us to help us out.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know. I have a hard time
Speaker 1: believing it. But maybe again that's just because of my
Speaker 1: perspective of US being America and US being the country
Speaker 1: that always has to dole out the excess. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but okay, all right, So the chat has been here
Speaker 1: for a little minute here, everybody's kind of been just
Speaker 1: speaking up on it. So I don't know all of
Speaker 1: what is in the chat right now. But let me
Speaker 1: just reach for my glass when they're already off my face.
Speaker 1: Good god, y'all, age is a cruel bitch. My eyesight
Speaker 1: is going to shit daily. Let's see. Here, saw two
Speaker 1: customs customers today and drove three hundred miles home from Tulsa,
Speaker 1: so I didn't have much opportunity catch up on the news, yo, Tony.
Speaker 1: I feel that one hundred percent. I've been trying to
Speaker 1: get snippets of it where I could because I've been busy.
Speaker 1: I have legitimately been busy NonStop for the past seventy
Speaker 1: two hours. Like if it wasn't something I was doing
Speaker 1: at home with my own house, it was something I
Speaker 1: was doing for X, Y or Z things. So I
Speaker 1: feel that one hundred percent kids are watching a thing
Speaker 1: making noise. No, dude, not you're good. I heard the
Speaker 1: kids in the background, but I was cute. That was
Speaker 1: your daughter on your lap a minute ago.
Speaker 6: Huh that was my son. He's one and a half.
Speaker 1: Oh he's a little cutie.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: Uh oh, hold on, Zombie sent a picture. What is this?
Speaker 1: Whoa Okay, Raven, You're gonna have to break This is
Speaker 1: a lot of pictures. I'm not sure exactly which thing specially.
Speaker 9: You had said that, like, I'm not sure what to
Speaker 9: talk about. So I took like a simple screenshot of
Speaker 9: like just a few things that I've saved in the
Speaker 9: last like two hours of like, here's some things that
Speaker 9: we can talk about out. There's a lot going on
Speaker 9: globally right now. That's like wild' out. So pick a topic.
Speaker 9: I have plenty of information.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. Royce har g Grimatria has uh. He sent
Speaker 1: a link to den Denver. Right. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: was the name of the people that lived in Denver. Okay,
Speaker 1: Denver right. Thousands joint protests at state capital as immigration
Speaker 1: authorities operate around Denver. So yeah, that was that was
Speaker 1: more of the uh the refugee slash illegal immigrant conversation,
Speaker 1: no doubt, largest Jewish community outside of New York. Denver
Speaker 1: is the largest Jewish community outside of New York. I
Speaker 1: honestly would have thought New Jersey. I I that's just
Speaker 1: me personally, but okay.
Speaker 2: Fair when we were talking about New Jersey.
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, fair enough. Uh shit, that's Portland area too, Anthony. Actually,
Speaker 1: now you're speaking up real quick. I'm not sure if
Speaker 1: I've asked you or not. You're in Portland, how many
Speaker 1: pairs of perkin Stocks do you own?
Speaker 2: What are you call like sandals.
Speaker 1: Specifically those specific type of sandals that are apparently indicative
Speaker 1: of all Oregonians, and Portland is apparently the mecca of
Speaker 1: that tribe. So I'm just curious if you own.
Speaker 2: Those or not. Dude, I wear sneakers and steel toach
Speaker 2: shit kickers.
Speaker 1: My boy. Okay, all right, moving on, moving on. Portland
Speaker 1: is a fucking wild in prices. Yeah, yeah, I could
Speaker 1: only imagine what the housing market in Portland looks like.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I shudder at the thought one hundred
Speaker 1: thousand eggs worth forty thousand dollars stolen from a trailer. Bro,
Speaker 1: what kind of financial hardship do you got to be
Speaker 1: in to steal one hundred thousand eggs like chicken eggs
Speaker 1: from the back of a truck. I understand we all
Speaker 1: hungry in here, but like that's a bit wild, bro.
Speaker 2: A dozen eggs in Portan right now is like five
Speaker 2: to six bucks.
Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't eat a lot of eggs. I'm allergic,
Speaker 1: so I only use them for cooking and stuff. So
Speaker 1: I have no idea what a current dozen eggs goes
Speaker 1: for in Louisiana. And honestly, I can't even say the
Speaker 1: last time I bought them, because my brother has chickens,
Speaker 1: so they're all they're all you know, yard him put
Speaker 1: yard pimp kind of chickens and things.
Speaker 2: I'll put you to like this.
Speaker 5: A year ago, I used to be able to buy
Speaker 5: a five dozen for ten to fifteen bucks.
Speaker 2: H and a dozen is.
Speaker 5: Costing five to eight depending on what quality you're getting.
Speaker 1: Let's hope the inflation goes down with all the financial
Speaker 1: things that Trump is trying to put into place. I
Speaker 1: don't know that to be a complete fact, but boy,
Speaker 1: I'm holding on to hope. All Right, here we go.
Speaker 8: This isn't this whole price gouge with eggs all about
Speaker 8: bird flow?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 8: Didn't they killt like one hundred million chickens or some shit?
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? I think because the bird
Speaker 1: flu that the eggs are so high.
Speaker 8: I think so because they killed so many chickens over it.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I thought monkey pocks was the next big
Speaker 1: plandemic they were about to release. I don't see monkey
Speaker 1: meat or monkey type things going off the rails here.
Speaker 1: I I don't know. Okay, sure could be bird flu.
Speaker 1: I remember back in the day, y'all, remember, ah, was
Speaker 1: it mad cow disease? And that was like the big
Speaker 1: scare and all of a sudden, beef prices went through
Speaker 1: the roof for like six months because people were scared
Speaker 1: that their beef had mad cow in it or something
Speaker 1: like that, and then it just went away off into
Speaker 1: the dust. Yeah, the mid two thousands were a way
Speaker 1: wilder time than people really want to believe. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of some rints and repeat on
Speaker 1: that one. Let's see here, New Jersey is nine at Walmart.
Speaker 1: Damn at least it's seven up at ten. I need
Speaker 1: to go to I need to get chickens and take advantage.
Speaker 1: You know, I've thought about that if the subdivision I
Speaker 1: live in. I'm just gonna say this, I hate Hoa's personally.
Speaker 1: I I didn't know that they could just put liens
Speaker 1: on you because they felt like it. And I also
Speaker 1: didn't know that if you don't pay your liens, they
Speaker 1: the state will evict you in the state of Louisiana
Speaker 1: because of Napoleonic law. That's real life. Until I got
Speaker 1: slapped with a thirty day notice from the freaking state,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, okay, sure, I'll play this game,
Speaker 1: and I could fight at all I want. But I
Speaker 1: absolutely signed on the paperwork to be a part of
Speaker 1: that HOA when I bought the house, so I couldn't
Speaker 1: really fight that. I can't fight my own signature, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But Uh, anyway, yeah, things and
Speaker 1: stuff I do. I do want to have some chickens,
Speaker 1: not for the eggs, but because I love fried chicken. Personally,
Speaker 1: so I would like to have them for the sole
Speaker 1: purpose of dust rolling them when they cockled their last dew.
Speaker 1: But anyway, uh bro I thought the same thing, but
Speaker 1: didn't have any yard Lol. Hopefully soon, Yeah, I feel
Speaker 1: that Anthony one hundred percent. It says that Israel is
Speaker 1: building outposts in Syria causing fear in locals. Now, Raven,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you if you've read any more
Speaker 1: into that or what the situation is. I've heard that
Speaker 1: there was like a buffer zone that was being put up.
Speaker 1: Then I heard that it was kind of Israel was
Speaker 1: building out posts to trying to keep the peace so
Speaker 1: that no other wild things popped off that would bleed
Speaker 1: into their area. But I mean, with everything going on
Speaker 1: in Israel right now, is anything really considered crazy er
Speaker 1: at this point?
Speaker 9: You know, he was just looking at Kiddedy all were
Speaker 9: talking about it, so I was looking to see what
Speaker 9: Tony was talking about. And then it said, like nine
Speaker 9: hours ago, apparently the guy apparently France is hosting Area's president.
Speaker 9: I think, is this a president?
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 9: I didn't I glance at it. I don't know whoever
Speaker 9: is in charge they're hosting them, and then they're talking
Speaker 9: about the locals or fearing these outposts that are happening
Speaker 9: and stuff like that. So I was just kind of
Speaker 9: glancing at what's going on in Syria what you guys
Speaker 9: were chatting about it. But I don't know if you
Speaker 9: saw the picture in the picture the but I forget
Speaker 9: what it's called. It's like the robot dog thing where
Speaker 9: it looks like this. It's like this viral robot dog
Speaker 9: that's battling a drone with fireworks and fires. People are
Speaker 9: like going crazy over this drone thing because it's like
Speaker 9: shooting down everything. People are like losing their minds about
Speaker 9: this new warfare tactic. I guess is what they're calling it.
Speaker 1: I just recently watched a video. Apparently the United States
Speaker 1: government put out a contract for any weapons designer who
Speaker 1: could come up with a portable handheld gun style weapon
Speaker 1: that would be most effective at taking down drones, and Benelli,
Speaker 1: the shotgun manufacturer, absolutely stepped up and they have now
Speaker 1: come out with it. It's not like a better model
Speaker 1: of a twelve gauge, but it kind of is. It's
Speaker 1: a almost no recoil twelve gauge, and they're coming out
Speaker 1: with different shells. The one that I've seen that is
Speaker 1: supposed to quote unquote take down the drones is do
Speaker 1: you'll know what a bolo is? Not a bolo knife,
Speaker 1: but a bolo as far as like the thing that
Speaker 1: the Australian Aboriginals would swing around their head and throw
Speaker 1: at the ankles of an animal. In these things, essentially
Speaker 1: there's a shotgun shell that has steel cables attached to
Speaker 1: five weights. There's five cables, five weights. You would shoot
Speaker 1: this at a drone and it would take it down. Apparently,
Speaker 1: it has been proven in Ukraine that shotguns do a
Speaker 1: very very very effective job at taking out drones, and
Speaker 1: the United States government has recently put out an order
Speaker 1: for thousands of shotguns and specific rounds to take out drones. Here.
Speaker 1: We thought we would be getting laser cannons, polse energy weapons.
Speaker 1: These things, Nah, just a super motted up redneck boom cannon.
Speaker 1: And that's what we're gonna roll with to take down
Speaker 1: the engineering marvel that is drone technology. I'm personally here
Speaker 1: for it. The white trash in me is screaming that like, hey,
Speaker 1: a twelve Games takes it down. I love that personally,
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm not mad at the robot dog
Speaker 1: with a flamethrower on its back. Either. That's pretty scary
Speaker 1: in Wonderguard. And also the twelve year old and me
Speaker 1: is screaming that that's pretty dope. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm not horribly upset at that one either. But all right,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of the robot dog with the flame throwers,
Speaker 1: but that's sick.
Speaker 9: Go ahead, Raven, Speaking of random, weird things that are happening.
Speaker 9: Do you see that India is facing an break of
Speaker 9: the creeping paralysis. This thing is called the GPS is
Speaker 9: a rare disorder of the immune system that's attacking the
Speaker 9: nervous cells. There's one hundred and sixty cases that have
Speaker 9: happened so far, and it's like there's like five suspected deaths.
Speaker 9: I don't know what is going on globally, but there
Speaker 9: are so many different outbreaks of different types of diseases
Speaker 9: and rare things that are happening. Like the Congo is
Speaker 9: getting ravaged right now. They have like five different outbreaks
Speaker 9: that are going on of different things that's happening. I
Speaker 9: just I'm reading the news while we're all talking, and
Speaker 9: I'm like, what the.
Speaker 1: Fuck, please do this is the time and place to
Speaker 1: discuss the wild things here beho on. Now, when you
Speaker 1: say the Congo, do you mean the Congo or the
Speaker 1: Democratic Republic of the Congo.
Speaker 9: I think it's the Democratic Republic of the Congo that's
Speaker 9: being hit. They've gotten like three different ones just in
Speaker 9: the last few weeks. When we did our episode, there
Speaker 9: was like three three of them that are there. Now
Speaker 9: they have two more that are just hit, just hit,
Speaker 9: And so there's a whole bunch of different things. And
Speaker 9: tuberculosis is you know, going off in Kansas, and they're
Speaker 9: freaking out about that as well. So I'm curious to
Speaker 9: see which one they're gonna choose right now. And there's
Speaker 9: some mysterious virus that just was reading about that's like
Speaker 9: stuper deadly, a strand of a bola that's like mass
Speaker 9: just killing.
Speaker 1: You don't menu, Okay.
Speaker 9: It's a different strand of abula. But I'm trying to
Speaker 9: find out. I'm trying to find out more information. I
Speaker 9: found one article on it and I'm like, ooh, okay,
Speaker 9: they're they're seeing it's linked to the zombie virus, and
Speaker 9: I'm like, of course, I'm gonna, you know, look into
Speaker 9: everything that's zombies.
Speaker 1: So so see, I will say this as far as
Speaker 1: as far as Sub Saharan Africa goes, the Congo is
Speaker 1: doing Congo things. The Democratic Republic of the Congo, which
Speaker 1: for the record, is not democratic or a republic, just
Speaker 1: so everybody knows. If that's in the title of the country,
Speaker 1: it's probably a farce. But I feel like most people
Speaker 1: with brainstims know that whenever you read that nation has
Speaker 1: something going on with it, it's not something that you
Speaker 1: should immediately write off as bs because they're just doing
Speaker 1: wild stuff always. If anything, it's almost like those kernels
Speaker 1: of truth all lead to the fact that that entire
Speaker 1: nation is on the verge of collapse as is. I'm
Speaker 1: seeing reports that there is a genocide that is not
Speaker 1: currently going down there, but is at least getting ready
Speaker 1: to go. I don't want to use the term viral
Speaker 1: because as we're talking about things, but essentially it is
Speaker 1: getting ready to go to mass scale. The nation is
Speaker 1: not doing well. And now I've said it before, but
Speaker 1: apparently South Africa and Zimbabwe individually and together are about
Speaker 1: to get involved in open conflict over the Democratic Republic
Speaker 1: of the Congo. When we talk about Ebola had a
Speaker 1: buddy of mine that was working in Africa in the
Speaker 1: oil field, and he was working for Chevron. He was
Speaker 1: in Nigeria. He was actually an instrumental part of the
Speaker 1: Congo River crossing And if anybody would like to look
Speaker 1: up that engineering marvel of a project, that was pretty
Speaker 1: pretty mind blowing, honestly. But that area and what has
Speaker 1: been going down there since six seven through twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: when the oil field dropped out and China moved in,
Speaker 1: How could I put this nicely? That area is not
Speaker 1: doing well, nor have they ever, nor will they ever.
Speaker 1: Ebola ransacks Africa about once or twice every decade. I
Speaker 1: know that's an uncomfortable statement to say, and people are
Speaker 1: gonna say that's not true. Ebola only became a thing
Speaker 1: in the two thousands. Not so much, not even not
Speaker 1: even close to a true statement. The people that live
Speaker 1: in that area almost expect it every ten years or
Speaker 1: so that there's gonna be a wave of ebola that's
Speaker 1: going to go from the north to the south or
Speaker 1: the south to the north. Either way it goes, you'll
Speaker 1: die from it and or you will develop an immunity
Speaker 1: to it. Life goes on. They don't I gotta be
Speaker 1: careful on this one too. When I say they, I
Speaker 1: mean the average person living in that area of the globe.
Speaker 1: They don't have a value on human life. And what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is, and I'll give an example
Speaker 1: of just South Africa here. I know I've made mention
Speaker 1: of the the race war that's going on there. It's
Speaker 1: actually very nuanced per section of the country. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: not like the entire country is white versus black, binding means,
Speaker 1: but it's very tribal and those Zulus and the Cantu's
Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember, the other tribe hate each other
Speaker 1: and like they will stab each other over potatoes versus
Speaker 1: rice for dinner that night. And that's just what it is.
Speaker 6: Like.
Speaker 1: They don't actually care about loss of human life. They
Speaker 1: don't value human life the same way that other nations do.
Speaker 1: So when we're talking about the Congo, the dr of
Speaker 1: Congo getting ready to enact a genocide, y'all gotta understand
Speaker 1: this is kind of just another year for them that
Speaker 1: they don't see it as anything. Crazy. If Ebola ransacks
Speaker 1: that area and it takes out a third of the
Speaker 1: nation's population, then like Tia, this is Africa that's the
Speaker 1: way it is, brother, Just you roll on, man, it
Speaker 1: is what it is. It is very hard for people
Speaker 1: in a first world nation to grasp the culture and
Speaker 1: the the desensitization of other areas of the world like that.
Speaker 1: So I have a hard time believing that, Yeah, the
Speaker 1: news will read that Ebola is about to ransack and
Speaker 1: a civil war is about to happen, a genocide's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's Africa's gonna be doing Africa shit, regardless of whether
Speaker 1: First world powers have anything to do with it or not.
Speaker 1: We definitely need to keep track of it, though, because
Speaker 1: allegedly a patient zero type of situation can happen and
Speaker 1: we might have to deal with one of these viruses
Speaker 1: that makes its way to Europe, to North America or
Speaker 1: whatever else. I'm skeptic of an Ebola outbreak becoming a
Speaker 1: North American problem, but there is a greater than zero
Speaker 1: percent chance of it. I think tuberculosis, especially like it's
Speaker 1: going on in the central part of the United States
Speaker 1: right now, I feel like that's more of a threat
Speaker 1: than Ebola by any means. But go ahead, Raven.
Speaker 9: So it looks like right now they got hit with cholera,
Speaker 9: measles and like two other viruses. It's interesting because it's
Speaker 9: Uganda that's being ransacked with the buller right now. But
Speaker 9: they are starting the new first rounds of vaccines, first
Speaker 9: ever vaccines to treat the trials to treat ebola in
Speaker 9: Uganda from a Sudan's. Sudan has like two different types
Speaker 9: of the virus and they're using it so now they
Speaker 9: have several people that have died from it.
Speaker 8: Though.
Speaker 9: But you'll see in the chat that I dropped the
Speaker 9: uns thing for what's going on in the Congo right now.
Speaker 9: There's a lot that's going on globally with like the
Speaker 9: viruses and stuff. So who knows, Like the Benga card
Speaker 9: is stacked with which one is going to be the
Speaker 9: next plandemic situation.
Speaker 1: So I'll say that's also a massive red flag when
Speaker 1: su And chimes into the conversation. They are currently in
Speaker 1: a genocidal situation right now. The Janjaweed has made their
Speaker 1: presence known again. They just had a massive oil spill
Speaker 1: that turned a massive section of the country into an
Speaker 1: oil slick that now warlords are fighting over. If Sudan
Speaker 1: is trying to send aid somewhere, people need to peel
Speaker 1: back the layers of that onion and see which warlord
Speaker 1: is funding it and for what greater purpose? I'll say
Speaker 1: that's uh yeah, black hawk Down was a real thing.
Speaker 1: Those groups are That was a excuse me, exee, that
Speaker 1: was that was not? That was Somaliaou wasn't it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: My bat on that Sudan was the Janjaweed. Excuse me.
Speaker 1: The genocide that went down there only a few years
Speaker 1: back has kind of been reinstigated and not on the
Speaker 1: same divisional lines as it once was. But it's also
Speaker 1: about to get blown to that same scale yet again.
Speaker 1: That's while that Sudan is trying to send help to Uganda,
Speaker 1: that's insane. Meanwhile, Kenya has sent cops to help fight
Speaker 1: the issues in Haiti and the gangs are now being
Speaker 1: seen as actual political players. Barbecue has started his own
Speaker 1: political party in Haiti, and the Kenyan police officers can
Speaker 1: do nothing to help this. It's yeah, yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: while time to be alive, y'all, like out loud. This
Speaker 1: shit sounds like it's a movie, but it's real life.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of it. Let's see here,
Speaker 1: Raven did send this Dr Congo crisis is on United
Speaker 1: Nations UN News DR Congo crisis, a public health quote
Speaker 1: unquote nightmare is unfolding, warns the World Health Organization. Well,
Speaker 1: we know, I trustworthy, they are one hundred percent, but
Speaker 1: I mean, I do believe that there is in fact
Speaker 1: a crisis going on in the Democratic Republic of Congo
Speaker 1: as well as a lot of central on Southern African nations.
Speaker 9: I yeah, sorry, it's like seven hundred thousand refugees are
Speaker 9: camped out in these camps that are being like brutally
Speaker 9: targeted right now for like malnourishment. The children are being
Speaker 9: kidnapped and all sorts of stuff in these camps, but
Speaker 9: they are being like ravaged by different diseases going on.
Speaker 9: And so that's what the UN is supposedly trying to
Speaker 9: help right now because Rwanda, the M twenty three group
Speaker 9: is gaining momentum and so the country is being just
Speaker 9: like absolutely torn apart, and so it looks like it
Speaker 9: could potentially be What was happening I think like six
Speaker 9: months ago, was that they were targeting the outskirts of
Speaker 9: those camps and they were killing off people and like
Speaker 9: they were having a mini genocide that was going on.
Speaker 9: So on top of everything that these poor people are
Speaker 9: going through. Now they're being hit with all all the
Speaker 9: different types of diseases on top of that. So it's
Speaker 9: pretty bad. But see the US pulling out, that's a
Speaker 9: lot of funding that's going to Congo. So like who
Speaker 9: is now gonna the ho Like who actually will be
Speaker 9: funding that bill is gonna be interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And keep in mind that area of the world
Speaker 1: had a machete genocide only a yester decade ago. It's
Speaker 1: it's a wild place. I don't know what to make.
Speaker 1: I know that America pulling out all kinds of humanitarian
Speaker 1: aid someone and that's the thing. Will someone even rise
Speaker 1: up to fill that gap? I mean, honestly if and Tony,
Speaker 1: this will kinda be to your point of Russia, and
Speaker 1: I know you're very pro Russian a lot of regards.
Speaker 1: The Wagner Group has operators in Africa. Now I'm not
Speaker 1: saying they're in the Congo or in South Africa and
Speaker 1: in Zimbabwe or anything like that, but they do have
Speaker 1: fighters in Bali, they do have fighters in Sudan. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be completely shocked if Putin starts sending some sort
Speaker 1: of military aid to southern Africa to help out these
Speaker 1: situations as well, to try to help public image in
Speaker 1: that regard. What are your thoughts on this.
Speaker 6: I don't know much about Russia's interests in Africa, but
Speaker 6: I do know that Wagner is kind of a mercenary organization,
Speaker 6: so they'll probably just take whatever money the African uh
Speaker 6: power players have to give them for whatever those African
Speaker 6: power players want to accomplish. Russia does a lot of
Speaker 6: foreign aid in the form of grain, specifically Ukrainian used
Speaker 6: to but Russia has pledged to fill the gap left
Speaker 6: left by Ukraine, since Ukraine is exporting a lot less
Speaker 6: wheat now than it was three years ago.
Speaker 1: From because I know that Ukraine was the bread basket
Speaker 1: of Europe and was the provider of grain to Russa
Speaker 1: for a long time, what is where is Russia sourcing
Speaker 1: that grain from? These days?
Speaker 6: They grow a bunch of of themselves. Okay, they do
Speaker 6: have a fair amount of really good land and better
Speaker 6: fertilizer than they used to have back during before World
Speaker 6: War Two, so they export a lot of grain. Okay, sure, Actually,
Speaker 6: I think during the Cold War they were importing a
Speaker 6: fair amount from Canada because the Canadian stuff was better,
Speaker 6: but now yeah, they export a lot, like a couple
Speaker 6: hundred about one hundred million tons a year if I'm
Speaker 6: not mistaken year, now one hundred million.
Speaker 1: Tons a year, I missard. Okay, Wow, you know I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and share the screen at this time.
Speaker 1: Zombie just said something that is really interesting here. This
Speaker 1: is off of the peninsula of this the news source
Speaker 1: here uh lab holding Ebola in DRC's Goma at risk
Speaker 1: amid fighting, says the Red Cross. Okay, and this is
Speaker 1: published January twenty eighth of twenty twenty five. Okay, Geneva.
Speaker 1: The Red Cross voiced alarms Tuesday over the risk of
Speaker 1: fighting in the besieged dr Congo city of Goma could
Speaker 1: cause samples of ebola and other pathogens hailed in laboratory
Speaker 1: to escape. The International Committee of the Red Cross is
Speaker 1: quote very concerned about the situation in the laboratory of
Speaker 1: the National Biomedical Research Institute, which is facing a risk
Speaker 1: of power cuts end quote. ICRC Regional Director of Africa,
Speaker 1: Patrick Yusef said, Okay, so we may in fact have
Speaker 1: another Ebola outbreak wreak its way across Africa based in
Speaker 1: the dr of Congo. I could see that being a
Speaker 1: very potential risk one hundred percent. Now do we think
Speaker 1: that that might be the next pandemic that sweeps the
Speaker 1: world and everybody starts wearing the masks again, and it's
Speaker 1: all government mandates and all of that. Potentially, I but
Speaker 1: I mean, they already had. The Ebola scare was a
Speaker 1: in the mid two thousands, and people in America weren't
Speaker 1: really that scared about it. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: it wasn't People weren't that scared of a pandemic like
Speaker 1: they would be now. And that's the thing though, after COVID,
Speaker 1: I wonder how many people would actually go back to
Speaker 1: wearing the masks and six feet apart and all that shit,
Speaker 1: especially for something that we've already heard about like Ebola.
Speaker 1: I feel like if they wanted to get a more
Speaker 1: drastic response out of the people, they would have to
Speaker 1: choose something that people may not have heard before, something
Speaker 1: they could brand as an even bigger, bad, or scarier thing.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, watch them call this like Ebola
Speaker 1: plus or something, and people will lose their minds over it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Go ahead, Raven, you I mute yourself.
Speaker 9: So I mean, from the rest of the article says
Speaker 9: that there's like more, there's different pathogens there. So because
Speaker 9: it's a biomedical research facility, they could have all sorts
Speaker 9: of stuff, not just ebola itself. That's the thing. They
Speaker 9: have all the different types of diseases they're working on
Speaker 9: and mutating. So if something was to be let loose,
Speaker 9: it would be ground zero there. And you're talking there's
Speaker 9: a million people in that city itself. That's a fast bullet,
Speaker 9: spreads very quickly and is way more effective deadly, So
Speaker 9: it's more it's a better plandemic than COVID. COVID was
Speaker 9: a test trial to see if people would comply. Now
Speaker 9: they understand that they could get people to comply. Now
Speaker 9: it's a matter of killing people off.
Speaker 1: So that's fair. That's very fair. Dann Kyle, you've been
Speaker 1: silent this whole time, and I know you're not very
Speaker 1: well read in on world politics, but I would love
Speaker 1: to hear your two cents on all the things we're
Speaker 1: talking about here, Bro, What was your take on this.
Speaker 6: Everything?
Speaker 10: The path I'm gun top.
Speaker 11: I know I don't pay tense to the world stuff
Speaker 11: like this, like the whole given money away or a
Speaker 11: country given name get money away to other countries.
Speaker 10: I'm just glad we're not buying a dozen condoms anymore.
Speaker 1: Yo, what what is it like, fifty million or five
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars in condoms sent to Gaza or something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 8: Yeah anymore?
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I agree with that one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: That was also really just ridiculous. I there were I
Speaker 1: was listening and reading in on these things. I watched
Speaker 1: the doge Cast, which apparently is a podcast that Elon
Speaker 1: and them are doing now once a week to give
Speaker 1: the nation a weekly update of what doge is finding.
Speaker 1: The usai D apparently was funding experiments and I use
Speaker 1: that term very loosely where they were putting live shrimp
Speaker 1: on treadmills to see how far they would jump and
Speaker 1: keep up with the treadmills that picked up speed. They
Speaker 1: spent like fifty million dollars on that experiment. There was
Speaker 1: another experiment, I want to say this one was around
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars that they used to do research into
Speaker 1: do younger cats or older cats call up more hair balls?
Speaker 1: And then they went to all different types of breeds
Speaker 1: of cats. What was the purpose of this experiment? Who
Speaker 1: is it trying to help? Not important never mentioned, but
Speaker 1: the experiment was ran and it was just millions of
Speaker 1: dollars spent to that. And somewhere in the mix of
Speaker 1: this we also get these wasteful spendings for condoms, wasteful
Speaker 1: spending for and it's not even like it's condoms to
Speaker 1: communities where you would want less children or any of
Speaker 1: these things. It was the gaza, which is its just
Speaker 1: it makes no sense out loud, that sounds ridiculous. So
Speaker 1: I agree that I'm happy that that government spending is
Speaker 1: going to get chopped. I just I have a hard
Speaker 1: time believing that that money is not going to get
Speaker 1: spent in some other useless government program. I know, yes,
Speaker 1: we have dyning t at the helm right now, but
Speaker 1: the government is still the government, and it is the
Speaker 1: most inefficient organization that I think I could even imagine
Speaker 1: on my own. So I just I hope that that
Speaker 1: money will get spent on better uses. But we shall see, Anthony,
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 5: Brother, Hey, Okay, I'm pulling the pin out of it
Speaker 5: real quick, left field. Okay, Okay, while we're talking about
Speaker 5: crazy stuff. Hell yeah, so that the whole flatter thing,
Speaker 5: like I said, government line crazy stuff. I just got
Speaker 5: to get this off my gest real quick. All right,
Speaker 5: So when people make the argument, right, the reason for
Speaker 5: the lie is because they if the earth is flat,
Speaker 5: you believe in a creator. Right, Well, like the mathematical
Speaker 5: possibility of the universe actually coming into existence without a
Speaker 5: creator is statistically impossible. So literally, even for the universe
Speaker 5: to exist, there needs to be a creator or creators.
Speaker 5: And this is coming from a pagan, Like I'm not
Speaker 5: even Christian. I believe in creators. But like so for me,
Speaker 5: like that's the one argument that really irks me is
Speaker 5: because like I don't care if it's a globe.
Speaker 2: Or it's flat. I still got to go to work tomorrow.
Speaker 1: That's always been my big talking point.
Speaker 5: They could one hundred prove without a shadow of a
Speaker 5: doubt that the earth is flat tomorrow and I would
Speaker 5: just be like cool and keep going on with my day.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 5: So it kind of irks me because like when you
Speaker 5: present that argument, kind of essentially to me, it comes
Speaker 5: across as you don't really believe in a creator unless
Speaker 5: you believe in the flat earth, which is a slap
Speaker 5: into face to anybody that has a spiritual tradition, a
Speaker 5: spiritual or religious tradition.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and one thing I've never heard of talk about.
Speaker 1: And I know I'm a guy.
Speaker 5: An astrology is not supposed to be a guy thing,
Speaker 5: but I'm surportedly'll.
Speaker 2: Give it to me, all right, I got enough?
Speaker 5: Uh, While I have my own thoughts about it, how
Speaker 5: would astrology work in a flat earth model? I have
Speaker 5: my opinions, I have my thoughts, but we could move
Speaker 5: on if nobody else wants to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Just we were talking about crazy shit and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you said you had a flatter talking point. When to
Speaker 1: bring up now is as good a time as any, brother,
Speaker 1: So you're good there. I know that I am the
Speaker 1: resident globe tard on the cult conspiracy, and so many
Speaker 1: people hate me because I will not be shifted from
Speaker 1: my views. I'm sorry. I haven't been presented any evidence
Speaker 1: that would negate the laws of physics or math or science.
Speaker 1: And I know that I'm just crazy for this, but fine.
Speaker 1: The people that say that a flat earth is more
Speaker 1: in line with a creative force over a globe earth,
Speaker 1: that is preposterous to me. The story of the flat
Speaker 1: Earth with a dome firmament sitting at the center of
Speaker 1: everything and there is no space and there is no
Speaker 1: universe and it's all fucked ready, player one in here
Speaker 1: being done by a creator or a programmer or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to say. Fine, that would lead credence to
Speaker 1: a creative force. It equally leads to a creative force
Speaker 1: that we are on a ball spinning, flying through space,
Speaker 1: surrounded by all these other things that were created flying
Speaker 1: through space. Like both of these mathematically shouldn't have just
Speaker 1: happened on their own. They had to have been done
Speaker 1: by a creator, group of creators, creative force, intelligent design,
Speaker 1: whatever y'all want to say. I'm not trying to throw
Speaker 1: one way or another, put your flat on it, but
Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent. And somehow the
Speaker 1: fact that I believe that we were on a sphere
Speaker 1: makes me a bad Christian. But also the fact that
Speaker 1: the other people believe that we are living on a
Speaker 1: flat plane with a snow globe makes them bad Christians
Speaker 1: or whatever the case. And it's like, I feel like
Speaker 1: you missed the forest for the trees on this one.
Speaker 1: If your biggest thing that makes you a Christian is
Speaker 1: that you believe that we're on a flat, flat plane,
Speaker 1: I feel like you completely missed the entire point of
Speaker 1: the book. I know I might be odd for that,
Speaker 1: but that's just me. So I'm with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: I do find the conversations fun, and I am trying very,
Speaker 1: very very hard to not sound condescending. When I get
Speaker 1: into these conversations with people. It's it's a bit of
Speaker 1: a challenge for me. Sometimes. Tam was not that way.
Speaker 1: She was awesome, she was sweet, and although we disagreed,
Speaker 1: I don't believe that she was coming at me specifically.
Speaker 1: I don't think I absolutely came at her specifically. Their
Speaker 1: whole thing about the coriola's effect not being real, I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, anybody who's ever been a part of
Speaker 1: an artillery team would tell you that that's false. But okay, fine,
Speaker 1: but uh yeah. I it's one of those things where
Speaker 1: it's it's not a salvation issue for me. It does
Speaker 1: not affect the government taking money out of my checks
Speaker 1: for taxes. It does not affect how I'm gonna wake
Speaker 1: up tomorrow morning. But the reason why I say or
Speaker 1: feel anyway that the flat Earth community is more of
Speaker 1: a cult following rather than a thought process is because
Speaker 1: if you listen to any of the big talking heads
Speaker 1: with it, they all say, once you realize we're on
Speaker 1: a flat plane, your whole perspective shifts and your whole
Speaker 1: life changes. And it's like, all right, anybody who says
Speaker 1: dot dot dot and your whole perspective changes is probably
Speaker 1: trying to sell you something. And I at that point
Speaker 1: call it grifter and Charlotte isn't Charlatanism, and I just
Speaker 1: politely detract from the conversation. But you know, then they
Speaker 1: want to bring in religious fervor. Then they want to
Speaker 1: start questioning academia. They want to start questioning the science
Speaker 1: that literally put the cell phone in their hand, that
Speaker 1: same scientist that says that physics is real and gravity
Speaker 1: is real and all these things. So it's like you
Speaker 1: can't have your cake and eat it too. And I
Speaker 1: feel personally that the flat earth community doesn't like that
Speaker 1: little fact, but I know I'm just a hate field
Speaker 1: bigot for that one. But anyway, Tony, I see your
Speaker 1: hand raise, go ahead and chime in, Yeah.
Speaker 6: I'm a fellow creator believing globe tard And my perspective
Speaker 6: on this is that to answer the question about the
Speaker 6: ancient peoples and their beliefs regarding flat and you know,
Speaker 6: round and what keeps the stars up. I think ancient people,
Speaker 6: going back before about five hundred BC, nobody believed in
Speaker 6: a round Earth, and the Old Testament seems to imply
Speaker 6: it's flat. The Quran, which was written sometime just after
Speaker 6: about six point thirty two AD, also strongly implies that
Speaker 6: it's flat. That doesn't mean God says it's flat. I
Speaker 6: think it just means that the people who wrote it
Speaker 6: interpreted it as flat, and they still derived a lot
Speaker 6: of belief and significance from looking at the stars, and
Speaker 6: whenever things like comets would happen or planets move into
Speaker 6: different constellations, they would attach a lot of significance to
Speaker 6: that because they felt like, well, maybe the Gods are
Speaker 6: telling us something through these stars, right. This fascination with
Speaker 6: stars and the cosmos has continued up through the time
Speaker 6: that the Earth, in my opinion, was kind of proved
Speaker 6: and accepted to be round in the early second millennium,
Speaker 6: and then when the heliocentric model took over with Galileo
Speaker 6: and the fifteen hundreds. So when you look at religions
Speaker 6: that have developed since then, here's where I think it
Speaker 6: gets interesting. The Mormons, for example, developed in the mid
Speaker 6: eighteen hundreds, and they incorporated stuff about stars and planets
Speaker 6: and other solar systems into their theology. They have. Joseph
Speaker 6: Smith wrote a book called The Pearli Great Price, where
Speaker 6: he says that our God came from a star called
Speaker 6: colob and with its own solar system, and that one day,
Speaker 6: if you were a good god fearing believer in the
Speaker 6: in the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter day Saints,
Speaker 6: you will get your own solar system. But that belief
Speaker 6: wouldn't have existed back in the time of Islam or
Speaker 6: the Old Testament, because they had no concept of these
Speaker 6: stars being you know, other sons. In fact, you know,
Speaker 6: back when the rings of Saturn were discovered, somebody speculated
Speaker 6: that it was actually Jesus's foreskin that made the rings
Speaker 6: of Saturn, so they thought it was a tiny little thing.
Speaker 6: But then of course he got scientology and other modern
Speaker 6: religions where there are Heaven's Gate, they all seem to
Speaker 6: focus still on the stars, even though we have this
Speaker 6: globe model and most people except the globe. So that's
Speaker 6: you know all I wanted to chime in, There no.
Speaker 1: No doubt, and I mean it depends on the ancient
Speaker 1: culture you're talking about. The Zoroastrians and Persia believed that
Speaker 1: we were on a round ball. The ancient Greeks believed
Speaker 1: we were on a round ball. Plenty of the elder
Speaker 1: the Roman historian believed we were on a round ball.
Speaker 1: Only when the Roman Catholic Church started having people ask
Speaker 1: questions that they couldn't answer, did this whole flat plane
Speaker 1: thing come back? And then what in't Galileo actually sent
Speaker 1: on house arrest for his beliefs?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the main dispute there was over whether
Speaker 6: it was helio centric or earth centric. I don't know
Speaker 6: when the Catholic Church. I think the round earth belief
Speaker 6: goes back to the beginning of the Catholic Church and
Speaker 6: before that event.
Speaker 1: Right, But it depends on the culture you're talking about.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if the ancient Chinese scholars
Speaker 1: are writing about this or not. But it's also one
Speaker 1: of those things that it's like, bro, that really doesn't
Speaker 1: affect like our lifespan, our diet, how to find spiritual
Speaker 1: enlightenment at all, but it's something that people will dig
Speaker 1: their heels into and die on the hilt thereof. And
Speaker 1: it's it's really funny to me personally. But yeah, like
Speaker 1: the conversation goes off in all directions. Yeah, Kyle, your
Speaker 1: hand was raised, Go ahead and chime in on this,
Speaker 1: doc Bro, I'm right there with you.
Speaker 6: I'm a round hard too.
Speaker 10: But my opinion is we're not moving around our Sun.
Speaker 10: We're standing still in space, Alston. I'm guessing Mars like
Speaker 10: some of our planets might be going around the Sun,
Speaker 10: but we're not, actually, my opinion, not moving. That's why
Speaker 10: the sky, the stars never tanged anything like that.
Speaker 1: So real quick question on that as far as the
Speaker 1: star is never changing. I'm not not trying to throw
Speaker 1: a wrench in the gears here, but just so we're
Speaker 1: gonna keep it one thou wow here. So, for instance,
Speaker 1: I'm a Leo if we're gonna believe the zodiac symbols
Speaker 1: of things and stuff. However, if you go look at
Speaker 1: August third, nineteen ninety two, the sun was not in
Speaker 1: the House of Leo on that morning because the earth
Speaker 1: has shifted a bit. The constellations that used to be
Speaker 1: there when the ancient Greeks wrote this down are not
Speaker 1: currently in that same house today. They have in fact shifted.
Speaker 1: If we're going off of the true stars alignment and stuff.
Speaker 1: I think I'm actually supposed to be a Gemini. But
Speaker 1: when the ancient Greeks wrote down from this date to
Speaker 1: this date means this, and from this date to this
Speaker 1: date means this, they didn't account for planetary shift. They
Speaker 1: didn't account for Earth kind of spinning on its axis
Speaker 1: and rotating a different degree. So it has in fact shifted,
Speaker 1: if not one zodiac over like two. So while the
Speaker 1: stars may not change their position in the sky, absolutely does.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you as far as we are living
Speaker 1: on a round ball for sure, but I.
Speaker 6: Am maybe longer to actually go around or sun.
Speaker 1: So you're saying the years have gotten longer by changed,
Speaker 1: But yeah, so I.
Speaker 10: Think it'll take like heaby thirty six thousand years or
Speaker 10: three hundred and sixty five thousand years.
Speaker 6: Well, I just think we're not.
Speaker 10: We don't need to go around to our stun to
Speaker 10: get our year in our twenty four hour our years.
Speaker 2: So that's the other thing.
Speaker 1: Too, interesting thought, brother, interesting thought, Anthony, Go.
Speaker 5: Ahead, Oh okay, so I can actually explain that a
Speaker 5: little bit because I do know a little bit about astrology.
Speaker 5: So in in Western astrology, like you said, you're a
Speaker 5: leo right, Yeah, okay, I'm a Libra. The way the
Speaker 5: way Western astrology is done, it's pretty much based off
Speaker 5: of the Greeks, right, and so there's fixed time periods right, right,
Speaker 5: And but the way those fixed time periods, uh, the
Speaker 5: way those fixed time periods happen, especially with the Gregorian
Speaker 5: calendar and the leap.
Speaker 2: Year, like the seasons change in not all, not all?
Speaker 2: How do I word this? What's the technical term?
Speaker 5: Not all zodiac alignments are the same length, right, It's
Speaker 5: not like the longitude line for the Earth, right, they're
Speaker 5: not exactly even. Yeah, so like in West, in Western astrology,
Speaker 5: I'm a Libra, but you go to Veda astrology, which
Speaker 5: the Vedas kind of took what the Greeks did and
Speaker 5: then built upon it.
Speaker 2: I'm actually an Aquarius and.
Speaker 5: Veda astrology like I believe it. I believe the other
Speaker 5: one that's similar. I want to say, it's sidereal.
Speaker 1: I've heard the term before, Yeah, something like that.
Speaker 5: They actually go back and they look at where the
Speaker 5: stars were at on at at the exact time of
Speaker 5: your birth right, and and those do and those do change,
Speaker 5: like because.
Speaker 2: Especially if you think about it, like just take a.
Speaker 5: Uh or like in a leap year, right, that's we
Speaker 5: got an extra day in February. So over how many centuries,
Speaker 5: how many extra days have gone in to the cycle
Speaker 5: to shift things, to shift things off a little bit?
Speaker 5: Western astrology doesn't account for that, right, So, And what
Speaker 5: I will say is I had evaded birth chart done
Speaker 5: and uh, that fucking thing was crazy. So but yeah,
Speaker 5: so that's touching on the astrology bid. That's I know,
Speaker 5: I'm not an expert, but I know a little bit
Speaker 5: about about that. And that's why I hear you I do, and.
Speaker 1: I mean to that point. Also, yes, the earth has shifted,
Speaker 1: the constellations have not shifted in our sky. But the
Speaker 1: day that this one is supposed to cause that's where
Speaker 1: I'll stem from. Right on this day, the sun would
Speaker 1: be in the House of Aris and the house of
Speaker 1: Leo in the house of and I mean, regardless of
Speaker 1: whether that constellation was larger or smaller than the one
Speaker 1: next to it. Like you said, in true sidereal, it's
Speaker 1: about the actual size of it on the horizon. It's
Speaker 1: not about making it equidescent throughout the year. It's about
Speaker 1: Scorpio is this big and Libro be this big? And
Speaker 1: you would go according to that that's not the way
Speaker 1: it is currently. Like if you were born in December
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to be a Pisces, Pisces and in
Speaker 1: December anymore on this planet, because the Earth has shifted,
Speaker 1: the days have shifted, the calendar has shifted, so the
Speaker 1: entirety of the quote unquote normal or mainstream look at. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's very strange. I you know what, all right, not
Speaker 1: to get off topic, but I cannot figure out how
Speaker 1: to make my phone do anything. I use my phone
Speaker 1: as my camera the thune and it gives a little bubble, yeah,
Speaker 1: there it goes. That can make that happen, the fireworks
Speaker 1: and the balloons that come up on their own, y'all.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what's making that happen. Half the time.
Speaker 1: I think my phone should be doing its own thing.
Speaker 1: But regardless of okay, back to the point, the truce
Speaker 1: ideial or the true astrology of it is not actually
Speaker 1: accurate to these days anymore. And so it's I see
Speaker 1: it as a fun thing. It's cool to look at,
Speaker 1: and it's cool to see how many of these characteristics
Speaker 1: and traits do in facts line up with you, which
Speaker 1: is supposed to be for a are supposed to be
Speaker 1: for a Leo, supposed to be for a pisce Sason.
Speaker 1: That's fun, it's fun stuff. But I also don't like
Speaker 1: when people identify their entire personality based off of it,
Speaker 1: because it gets to the realm of being douchey so quickly.
Speaker 1: It's like crossfitters, it's like vegans. It's these people that
Speaker 1: like will find a way to interject that into the
Speaker 1: conversation when no one asked for it, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it gets, it gets kind of, it
Speaker 1: gets douchey really quickly. Tony, go ahead, because I'm about
Speaker 1: to read what you sent about the spherical earth, But
Speaker 1: go ahead and chime in on these things.
Speaker 6: It's just so this has come up before. But belief
Speaker 6: in determinism or free will, I'm more of a free
Speaker 6: will kind of guy, and to me, astrology seems very deterministic,
Speaker 6: the whole idea that, well, the stars are going to
Speaker 6: do this, therefore this other thing is going to happen
Speaker 6: on Earth, and it just doesn't mean that at all.
Speaker 6: But people want automatic knowledge like that, Oh look I
Speaker 6: saw this happen up in the sky. I mean, something
Speaker 6: else is going to happen on Earth. Well, it may
Speaker 6: not turn out that way. People, you know, like to
Speaker 6: make predictions, and you know they're wrong a lot of
Speaker 6: the time because a lot of things are just not
Speaker 6: knowable because there's too much chaos and there is no
Speaker 6: plan and there is no uh, you know, automatomatic way
Speaker 6: of knowing the future.
Speaker 1: I do like hearing when people like, oh, my god,
Speaker 1: I just had a debt collector call me and I'm
Speaker 1: about to get screwed. Oh, mercury must be a retrograde,
Speaker 1: and then like, okay, that sounds stupid out loud. But
Speaker 1: then when you look it up and like, mercury actually
Speaker 1: is in retrograde when that phone call came in, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, hmm, all right, okay, okay, it's fun.
Speaker 8: It's fun.
Speaker 1: You like to have a little play the blame game
Speaker 1: a bit. Okay, I'm not mad at it, but I
Speaker 1: also don't believe you should like be basing your life
Speaker 1: decisions off of the stars or off of retrogrades or
Speaker 1: things like that. You know, I could see why someone
Speaker 1: would maybe pull on these sources to try to get
Speaker 1: some outside looking in type of perspective, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm just crazy. For believing that you make your
Speaker 1: decisions and you got to stand by them regardless of
Speaker 1: what the sun and stars and moon be doing.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, and the predictions will be right like half
Speaker 6: the time and or even ten percent of the time,
Speaker 6: and that will keep these people going like, oh it
Speaker 6: was right, I'm gonna still keep believing it and just
Speaker 6: to ignore the times it was wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I put it to the realm of like fishing.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many of all I've ever been
Speaker 1: fishing before in some water that you may not be
Speaker 1: very familiar with. But you'll be sitting there for an hour, casting,
Speaker 1: trying different baits, wet and lines left, right and center,
Speaker 1: and you know what, it's been an hour. I'm about
Speaker 1: ready to leave. But you get one nibble. You get
Speaker 1: that one little nibble as you are about to reel
Speaker 1: in and call it quits and go to another spot,
Speaker 1: you get that one, just a little bite you don't
Speaker 1: even catch, but you failt to hit something you Oh boy,
Speaker 1: You'll be locked into that one hole for the next
Speaker 1: three hours. It's like that with these groups. But saying
Speaker 1: that to these people apparently makes you a bigot and
Speaker 1: a fed in all these other terms that they throw
Speaker 1: out to dismiss you. But uh, okay, speaking of being
Speaker 1: a part of that side of things, Tony, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: read what you wrote because it's look at that. My
Speaker 1: phone even sent the thumbs down for that. What the
Speaker 1: bro I didn't even do nothing, But anyway, all right,
Speaker 1: it's up. The idea of a spherical earth appeared in
Speaker 1: the ancient Greek philosophy with Pythagoras, not Pythagorean, but Pythagoras
Speaker 1: in the sixth century BC. If I'm not mistaken, he
Speaker 1: was the guy that did the experiment with the shadows
Speaker 1: at the summer equinox and measured their distance from the
Speaker 1: point and was able to accurately calculate the circumference of
Speaker 1: the Earth. And I think he only got it wrong
Speaker 1: by like six miles or something like that, because math
Speaker 1: does in fact math. However, the early Greek got closer.
Speaker 1: The early Greek cosmological view of flat Earth persisted among
Speaker 1: the most pre Socratic fifth and sixth century BC. In
Speaker 1: the early fourth century BC Plato who wrote about a
Speaker 1: spherical Earth. By about three point thirty BC, Earth's global
Speaker 1: shape gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world. By
Speaker 1: the early period of the Christian Church, the spherical view
Speaker 1: was wily hailed, with some notable exceptions. In contrast, ancient
Speaker 1: Chinese scholars consistently described the Earth as flat, and this
Speaker 1: perception remained unchanged until their encounters with the Jesuit missionaries
Speaker 1: in the seventeenth century. It is a historical myth that
Speaker 1: medieval Europeans generally thought the Earth was flat. This myth
Speaker 1: was created by the seventeenth century. In the seventeenth century
Speaker 1: by Protestants. So yeah, again, I have never and I
Speaker 1: bro I've had so many people comment, so many people comment.
Speaker 1: My grandmother's still alive and she can remember when the
Speaker 1: teacher taught her that the earth was flat. Could you,
Speaker 1: maybe just for two seconds, believe that miss teacher lady
Speaker 1: in bump fuck Nowheresville, Mississippi, was a retard. I know
Speaker 1: that's an uncomfortable truth. But is it crazy that the
Speaker 1: schoolhouse where the kindergarteners and the juniors in high school
Speaker 1: were in the same classroom. Maybe that teacher wasn't the
Speaker 1: most highly qualified. I don't know, but apparently I'm I'm
Speaker 1: the crazy one for believing these things. M yeah, anyway, anyway,
Speaker 1: Raven says, Scorpio life, no doubt out, no doubt, You're dangerous.
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 1: No, all the best will come with the beast.
Speaker 6: Lol.
Speaker 1: Well some are fair enough. Oh, good lord, good lord. Okay,
Speaker 1: So we kind of went all over the place on
Speaker 1: this one thus far. We talked about geopolitics, we talked
Speaker 1: about the next plandemic, We're talking about astrology and the
Speaker 1: flat Earth. I'm liking it thus far here.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: All right, So while we're kind of in the free
Speaker 1: free zone of the conversation here, I want to get
Speaker 1: everybody's two cents on Trump's current moves, not just with
Speaker 1: an executive order or even a group of them. Since
Speaker 1: he's taken office to now, he has done so many
Speaker 1: drastic things, and I mean like it, dislike it, whatever
Speaker 1: the case may be. It almost scares me because of
Speaker 1: the size of the target he's put on his back.
Speaker 1: But I also support a lot of the things that
Speaker 1: he's done. What is everybody's take on the executive orders
Speaker 1: that he's passed and in the moves that he's making
Speaker 1: in this regard, feel free to just unmute yourselves in
Speaker 1: chime in at this time.
Speaker 5: I honestly haven't been paying too much attention, uh, working
Speaker 5: too much?
Speaker 1: I fuck? What did uh?
Speaker 6: I mean?
Speaker 2: I I saw something about uh? Fuck?
Speaker 8: What was it?
Speaker 2: Fuck? I can't. I I've been up since four o'clock
Speaker 2: this morning. I can't. I can't even remember.
Speaker 5: I mean, I think it's I think like all things
Speaker 5: can see like.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's coming in and doing stuff.
Speaker 5: I mean, realistically, every other president their first few weeks,
Speaker 5: they're always signing a bunch of executive orders. So for
Speaker 5: me where I'm at, it's I I'm not I'm not
Speaker 5: gonna worry about what the exec what executive orders he's.
Speaker 2: Signing right now.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna watch to see, uh what happens, What happens
Speaker 5: because of him? Do things get safer, do things get
Speaker 5: more affordable? Does the economy start to correct itself? You know,
Speaker 5: and and unfortunately, you know, kind of touching on the
Speaker 5: immigration subject.
Speaker 2: Back in the beginning, we.
Speaker 5: Had sometimes you got to crack a few eggs to
Speaker 5: make an omelet, and the problem has gotten big enough
Speaker 5: all the way around that there's no regardless of whatever
Speaker 5: it is, there's no comfortable way to fix it, and
Speaker 5: there's no way to please everybody, as y'all Christians put it,
Speaker 5: he might.
Speaker 2: Be the anti Christ.
Speaker 5: I don't know, but I mean it is my my
Speaker 5: neck of the woods, gonna get it cheaper to live and.
Speaker 2: Safer for when I do have children. Heard that, and
Speaker 2: that's that's kind of where I'm at as.
Speaker 1: The Christian over here. I will say, I do not
Speaker 1: believe that he is the Antichrist, or even a subset thereof,
Speaker 1: or a false prophet or whatever the case is. I
Speaker 1: see why people would draw these comparisons. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's one of those things where if you're looking hard enough,
Speaker 1: he's obviously the guy. I mean, if you looked hard enough,
Speaker 1: Obama was obviously the Antichrist, and if before that Bush
Speaker 1: was obviously the Antichrist, and before that Clinton was It's
Speaker 1: bro you get these people, you know. I will say,
Speaker 1: the Internet has given a bigger voice to a lot
Speaker 1: of fringe theories out there, and I remember people like
Speaker 1: swearing up and down and like betting everything on the
Speaker 1: fact that Obama was clearly the Antichrist. It could not
Speaker 1: be any body except him. Now I'm here and it's
Speaker 1: not in Yahoo, and it's Trump and it's you know,
Speaker 1: Merkele Merkles Antichrist. And it's like, bro, I feel like
Speaker 1: if you were able to call it before it becomes time,
Speaker 1: that would negate the possibility of him being the thing.
Speaker 1: So I'm with you in that regard. I like the
Speaker 1: things that he's doing, and a lot of these executive
Speaker 1: orders have also been like plans. He gave this group
Speaker 1: two weeks to figure out how we're gonna implement X
Speaker 1: Y or Z. He gave this group thirty days to
Speaker 1: figure out how they're going to release the information on X,
Speaker 1: Y and Z. So it's like he is getting the
Speaker 1: ball rolling in the right direction. I'm interested to see
Speaker 1: how that will come through to fruition in real time
Speaker 1: when the time comes, and we're rapidly approaching a lot
Speaker 1: of those times. So I feel like by end of
Speaker 1: March we will have a very uh we'll have a
Speaker 1: very good look at what will actually be going down here.
Speaker 1: A promise is made, we will see if the promises
Speaker 1: are kept. That is how he's done business thus far.
Speaker 1: So I'm hopeful. But uh, I mean, what do y'all
Speaker 1: think on that one as well?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 8: What I think is for the most part, I I
Speaker 8: like what he's done, you know, especially today with the
Speaker 8: no men and women's sports. That's that's wonderful. I like,
Speaker 8: that's huge.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy for that.
Speaker 8: But you know, on the other hand, like I don't
Speaker 8: understand the whole thing with Gaza. You know, I must
Speaker 8: have missed that part on you know, him sending troops
Speaker 8: and potentially us taken the land and you know, probably
Speaker 8: making it what like a resort area or some shit,
Speaker 8: like I don't I don't know, but yeah, I just
Speaker 8: I just don't really understand it, to be honest with you,
Speaker 8: I just don't get that part. But everything else, like
Speaker 8: I like, and I'm just waiting for Kennedy to get
Speaker 8: in make food actually healthy, you know, people that actually
Speaker 8: want to make an impact in America, you know, which
Speaker 8: is good. And when it comes to the you know,
Speaker 8: budgeting and spending and all that kind of stuff, I'm
Speaker 8: you know, just just like everybody else. You know, you
Speaker 8: can't really trust Elon. But at the same time, as
Speaker 8: if he's actually going to work and actually do what
Speaker 8: he wants, you know, what he plan to do, cool,
Speaker 8: you know, I'd rather have him on our side than
Speaker 8: you know, the on a WEF for although you know,
Speaker 8: all those kind of organizations.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but.
Speaker 8: Yeah, so far so good. You know, I'd probably say
Speaker 8: I agree with ninety percent of the stuff that he's
Speaker 8: done right now, you know, I'm with you, one per
Speaker 8: with you.
Speaker 1: And again, I don't really know what the bigger picture
Speaker 1: is about sending troops to Gaza. US troops or even
Speaker 1: US personnel, regardless if it's military or whatever the case is,
Speaker 1: to Gaza for American interests. I'm kind of lost on
Speaker 1: that as well. So I don't know. We will have
Speaker 1: to see. Because we've been hearing that Canada's gonna become
Speaker 1: the fifty first date, Greenland's gonna become the fifty first date.
Speaker 1: Now Gaza is gonna become the fifty first date. It's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like that term is getting thrown around so
Speaker 1: loosely in the past month that it's pretty much lost
Speaker 1: all weight at this time. But we will see. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe they will plant a US flag on Gaza here soon,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but you know, we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 8: You know, at this point, like we might as well
Speaker 8: just take it because we probably fund and half that
Speaker 8: shit anyway.
Speaker 1: But that's also a fair point.
Speaker 8: I mean, real shit, well, you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 8: if we're putting that in some words, then you know,
Speaker 8: we should probably have most of the world at this
Speaker 8: point the way we fund everything. But you know, I'm
Speaker 8: glad that we're kind of cutting back that this same time.
Speaker 8: You know, like you said earlier, we just need to
Speaker 8: focus on ourselves and get ourselves out of our situation
Speaker 8: before we should really start, you know, paying attention to
Speaker 8: other people like I got, like health pandemics and all that.
Speaker 8: But like you know, all you have to do is
Speaker 8: just arrest Bill Gates at this point to stop that
Speaker 8: kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: Agreed. That seems to be where it all cobalesces into
Speaker 1: a singular thing if you follow the trail of money.
Speaker 1: He just somehow he seems to be at the epicenter
Speaker 1: of all of it consistently. So I'm with you on
Speaker 1: that one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, when when I when I hear you evil, I
Speaker 8: just think of Bill Gates so yo.
Speaker 1: For really, he's like the new the actual doctor Evil
Speaker 1: at this point, Tony, what is your thoughts on this?
Speaker 6: I overall support Trump and he's he's he's previous to
Speaker 6: do a lot of information we're not, and I think
Speaker 6: he's definitely better at making this balancing act and doing
Speaker 6: what's in our interests better than Kamala Harris would have been.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah, my leaps and bounds.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's worth it to, you know, take a little
Speaker 6: bit of a victory lap here and remind ourselves why
Speaker 6: why we fight for what we do. And you know,
Speaker 6: he's not gonna be perfect, he's not going to do
Speaker 6: everything I want, but he's just so much better than
Speaker 6: the alternative. And I think he's even slowing down the
Speaker 6: decline of the American Empire. And that's all. If we
Speaker 6: can slow this whole process down, that's going to minimize
Speaker 6: the chances that something really bad like a nuclear war
Speaker 6: is going to happen, and maximize the chances that our
Speaker 6: kids can have a good life. So from what I'm seeing,
Speaker 6: I overall support it. And the Goaza thing, yeah, maybe
Speaker 6: I don't support that, but you know that could That
Speaker 6: whole situation is so bad almost nothing could make it worse,
Speaker 6: So you know, maybe it's worth trying something radically new
Speaker 6: there too.
Speaker 1: That's that's a fair statement. That's an uncomfortable fair statement,
Speaker 1: But no lies detected at all. With that being said,
Speaker 1: the situation is so fraught with mismanagement and over what's
Speaker 1: the word I'm looking for sledgehammer tactics, I guess would
Speaker 1: be a good way of personifying that to the points
Speaker 1: at this point, like, yo, if American troops did get
Speaker 1: their humanitarian aid, American engineers even made their way to Gaza, like,
Speaker 1: I can promise you, it's not going to make the
Speaker 1: situation worse. So yeah, yeah, I'm with you anyway, Kyle,
Speaker 1: what is your two cents on this? Brother?
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 2: Trump.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm happy whatever they needs doing so far. The
Speaker 10: Plgaza thing, well, in my opinion, name kind of need
Speaker 10: to pay you for what the fuck's been.
Speaker 6: Going on for the past year and a half.
Speaker 8: So so.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they didn't get a hash spank a little bit. Uh,
Speaker 7: we just need to take over Canada and Mexico. They
Speaker 7: hit one giant North American United States.
Speaker 1: That would also be that'd be wild at the entire
Speaker 1: North American continent. It was just under one flag that
Speaker 1: would that'd be pretty pretty sick. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: then the the liberal talking heads would be able to
Speaker 1: actually have a pretty decent claim onto the hole. He's
Speaker 1: literally hitler jam and that that wouldn't I don't think
Speaker 1: that would age well, But I'm with you. It could
Speaker 1: definitely go down that way. Raven, what is your two
Speaker 1: cents on the whole US Forces slash aid in Gaza?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 1: Okay, so Raven can't talk. You have sent that in
Speaker 1: the uh in the chat. But all right, So we've
Speaker 1: covered a good number of topics here tonight, everybody, and
Speaker 1: I appreciate all of the love and support and y'all
Speaker 1: coming in here on this gorgeous Wednesday night to have
Speaker 1: this conversation. To anybody listening to this on Thursday, if
Speaker 1: you would like to be a part of this conversation
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Speaker 1: go every Wednesday night at ninth Central and we just
Speaker 1: talk about all the things and the stuff. Sometimes it's religious,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's geopolitical, sometimes it's conspiratorial. Sometimes it's just that
Speaker 1: odd gray area of dot dot dot of whatever comes
Speaker 1: up here. We kind of covered everything tonight. We even
Speaker 1: brought up zodiacs for a good bit and history of
Speaker 1: flat and round Earth. I mean, we're all over the place,
Speaker 1: and I love that. That's what I really want this
Speaker 1: to be. Bro, Why is my phone? Give me a
Speaker 1: thumbs down? I didn't even do anything. Also, real, real
Speaker 1: quick Tony, what did you have going across your screen earlier?
Speaker 1: Was those party hats?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 8: I just looked through the Oh what's Tony?
Speaker 1: You Tony? But also Tony, you had something go across
Speaker 1: your screen earlier? It was an accident. Hold did you.
Speaker 8: Of y'all? I clicked the React Reactions and I clicked
Speaker 8: the Today. Yeah, because he said to do the victory
Speaker 8: lap because of Trump getting in and knock.
Speaker 1: I gotta figure out. I didn't know I could force
Speaker 1: it to do certain things. I'm gonna start doing that
Speaker 1: on the cult man. That's dope, all right. Well, with
Speaker 1: that being said, thank you everybody for joining the Cage
Speaker 1: to Night Live Love y'all. Appreciate y'all, and uh, I
Speaker 1: will see y'll next week. Y'all take care