1 00:00:02,720 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Broadcasting from Studio A Here at Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs. 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:09,839 It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella, 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:14,240 me Rick Weist, and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson. Well, 4 00:00:14,279 --> 00:00:18,600 today we ask what if? Why start things with a 5 00:00:18,719 --> 00:00:22,760 question that's a great question, With a normal question, your 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:29,440 brain uses previous information or situational issues that you've run 7 00:00:29,519 --> 00:00:33,399 into before, so you can answer the question like what's 8 00:00:33,439 --> 00:00:36,600 for dinner tonight? Boy, I hate that question. I'm tired 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:41,479 of that question. But asking what if creates possibility thinking, 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,719 not an answer that relies on a frame of reference. 11 00:00:45,799 --> 00:00:51,119 It's the fuel for innovation and creativity. And we all know, 12 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,039 as far as gardening is concerned, that colors set the 13 00:00:54,159 --> 00:00:58,479 mood in a garden. Every gardener is an artist and 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,280 we like to use all the different colors that are 15 00:01:02,399 --> 00:01:06,079 available to us in the garden. But what if you 16 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:11,120 could only use one color for a gardening bed? And 17 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,040 that brings us to our question today. And it's a 18 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:17,840 tough question because if less is more than, what would 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,599 you choose? We all like contrast. So the question is this. 20 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,680 It was posed by Proven Winners, Color Choice Shrubs and 21 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,879 Social media and got quite a response. If you had 22 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,519 to design a garden bed using only one flower color, 23 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,719 which color would you choose to create your monochromatic masterpiece? 24 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,159 And of course I immediately think in my mind, it's 25 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,000 got to be green. It's obvious it's color green? 26 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 2: Or is it? 27 00:01:49,719 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: Very interesting responses from people, and that's what you get 28 00:01:54,159 --> 00:01:58,120 when you ask the question what if. I love asking 29 00:01:58,159 --> 00:02:01,719 that question, like what if everybody had to sleep for 30 00:02:01,799 --> 00:02:05,680 twelve hours a day, no exceptions, how would the world 31 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,759 be different? Or what if you could meet any historical 32 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:15,000 figure for lunch? But more importantly tied into the Stacey, 33 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,560 I've asked myself the question, what if we could have 34 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,840 panicle hydranges in bloom for Mother's Day? 35 00:02:24,759 --> 00:02:27,039 Speaker 2: Now, that is a very attainable. What if that is 36 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,680 not that far around the corner? I can tell you that, And. 37 00:02:29,599 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: That's why we asked those kinds of questions. Or I 38 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,039 was thinking this morning as I wandered through my garden 39 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:40,960 and I got a whiff those petunias. Oh, I can't 40 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,439 stand that smell. I love supertunias. Put that smell, especially 41 00:02:45,479 --> 00:02:48,960 when it's hot and humid outside. What if we had 42 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,479 petunias that smelled like key lime pie. 43 00:02:52,879 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 2: Well, now does this go back to your garden center days? Yes, 44 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,719 it is, Okay, I figured as much because they have 45 00:02:58,759 --> 00:03:02,840 a very they have a very distinctive smell, and I 46 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,400 generally like it. I actually like. But see, I didn't 47 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,360 also spend you know, fifty years of my life at 48 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,759 heading petunias, so I have a slightly different perspective on this. 49 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:15,439 Speaker 1: Thank goodness, supertunias came along. But all those seed grown flesh. 50 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,439 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, if you didn't then have those things, you 51 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:19,919 could kiss them ray goodbye. And I know some petunia 52 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,199 smell very distinctively bad, but mostly they just kind of 53 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:25,840 have that distinctive I don't know, I can't really describe it, 54 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:27,240 but it's an interesting. 55 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: Sugary, sweet, slimy See. 56 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: I feel like I smell more of like the foliage 57 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,000 of them. Yeah, because like a lot of people don't realize, 58 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,680 but petunias are in the same family as tomatoes, potatoes, 59 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,719 and tobacco. Yeah, so all of those things are kind 60 00:03:40,719 --> 00:03:44,919 of resiny and have very distinctive sense as well. 61 00:03:45,199 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: So it's a what if question that I ask myself. 62 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:50,719 But today we ask about color and if you could 63 00:03:50,719 --> 00:03:55,639 only use one color for a bed, Which one would 64 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,800 you use? So we talk about a monochromatic color range, 65 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,639 maybe yellow, pale yellow and mustard together, or purple, pale, purple, 66 00:04:04,159 --> 00:04:10,199 purplish black. I don't know. I think moody purples would 67 00:04:10,199 --> 00:04:13,520 make a great bed, and of course a great rock 68 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,360 and roll band name too. We all remember that iconic 69 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,879 English rock band, the Moody Blues. So maybe moody purples 70 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:27,720 or muted reds and romantic berry tones or well, I 71 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,240 hate to bring it up, but teal it's not commonly 72 00:04:31,319 --> 00:04:34,879 found in nature. Adriana loves that, right, you know. 73 00:04:34,879 --> 00:04:38,759 Speaker 2: You say this while you're wearing teal tennis shoes in feel. 74 00:04:38,519 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: They're blue, aren't they? Those are? 75 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: Doesn't kind? I think they're deal, Adriana is. I think 76 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:44,720 she's an agreement on the teal tennis shoes. 77 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:46,519 Speaker 1: You'll have to get a shot of my shoes there, 78 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:47,560 Adriana and Will. 79 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: I'm just saying, for a guy who very often says 80 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:54,040 he doesn't like cheal, I see some occasional leaks of teal. 81 00:04:54,079 --> 00:04:56,800 Now teal is not of color that you're very often 82 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,519 going to see in the garden, that is for sure. 83 00:04:59,319 --> 00:05:03,480 I can't really not think of anything like maybe the 84 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:09,000 jade vine strongulod on macro batress. That's like a really 85 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,720 interesting tropical and if you are lucky enough to see 86 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,920 it in bloom in some big conservatory somewhere, I would 87 00:05:14,959 --> 00:05:18,319 say that's probably as close as I can think of 88 00:05:18,399 --> 00:05:19,879 getting in the botanical world. 89 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: For me, it's Festuca glauca. It's the. 90 00:05:24,079 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 2: Color. 91 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks teal to me in the garden. But regardless, 92 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:32,560 if you were to plant a bed and only one color, 93 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:37,199 I don't know if you have a personal answer for Stacey, 94 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,879 but it's kind of asking the questions too. What if 95 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:46,480 I was forced to wear the same thing day after day, 96 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:48,680 what would I choose? 97 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 2: Well, then I would just choose black, because then you 98 00:05:51,399 --> 00:05:53,839 can wear whatever color jewelry or ear rings or fun 99 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,519 shoes or whatever that you want. And then it's like 100 00:05:57,519 --> 00:05:59,199 you're always in the right mood for black. You know, 101 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,680 sometimes you're just not in the mood for you know, 102 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,639 like showy colors, you're just not feeling it sometimes you are, 103 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,480 But with black, you can always kind of take it 104 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:09,639 in whatever direction you want. 105 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: You know, I would respond black too. I wear black lot. 106 00:06:12,959 --> 00:06:15,920 My go to is a black shirt with khaki pants. 107 00:06:16,439 --> 00:06:18,720 And if I had to pick a color, it would 108 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,279 be blue. So what about the garden? And I look 109 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:29,079 at the social media responses and they're actually quite interesting. 110 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:33,480 And what was interesting to me, Stacy, was the number 111 00:06:33,519 --> 00:06:36,839 of people, if forced to pick one color, would pick white. 112 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: Yes. Yeah, white was the third most popular. So I 113 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,800 have to tell you something. Our social media person who 114 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,519 came up with this question and posted it on our page, 115 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:52,360 her name is Crimson Ah, so color must have been 116 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:53,839 on her mind. And yeah, I thought it was an 117 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:55,800 interesting question when I saw it come up. And then 118 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,439 because we had over six hundred responses on the question, 119 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,480 I asked AI, which I'm not a big proponent of AI, 120 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:06,879 but there are tasks like this where I don't have 121 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,480 time to read six hundred sum answers. So I just 122 00:07:09,839 --> 00:07:12,519 fitted into claude and I said, hey, tally all of 123 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,040 these up, which it did, and far and away, yes, 124 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,639 the most answered color was purple, lavender, or violet. 125 00:07:19,759 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: Yeah. It doesn't surprise me me neither. 126 00:07:21,439 --> 00:07:25,839 Speaker 2: And you know, I think maybe that's partly because by 127 00:07:25,959 --> 00:07:29,079 extension that does include most blues. You know, there are 128 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,360 some true blue flowers out there, for sure, but I 129 00:07:32,399 --> 00:07:34,879 think for most people who want blue in the garden. 130 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,160 They kind of have the sense that purple is about 131 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:40,120 as close as they can realistically get for especially for 132 00:07:40,439 --> 00:07:41,519 a broader garden bed. 133 00:07:41,639 --> 00:07:45,279 Speaker 1: Well, and there are so many great purple plants, true 134 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,439 purple iris, the Hugh Curas. I mean, we'll go down 135 00:07:48,519 --> 00:07:52,079 the list later, but you're right, the color blue is 136 00:07:52,199 --> 00:07:55,360 controversial because you you know, I may say that looks 137 00:07:55,399 --> 00:07:58,199 blue to me, like the shoes I'm wearing today, and 138 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,000 someone else will say, no, that's teal or that's not glue. 139 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: Yes, well, color is very subjective, and I think though, 140 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,480 even when we're having this conversation about these plants, if 141 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,000 you might say, like just a general group of colors 142 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,639 like purple or pink, which pink was the second most 143 00:08:12,639 --> 00:08:16,959 mentioned color, also not for very surprising. There's so much 144 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,000 variation within that, so it's not like you're just saying like, oh, 145 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,240 I'm only gonna have this one shade of pink. I 146 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:25,720 think that you can very easily have a monochromatic garden 147 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,639 without it ever seeming boring, just because there are so 148 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:33,759 many variations of a color within you know, the plant world, 149 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:35,000 and a single color range. 150 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you. Even neutral colors have so 151 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:42,600 many different shades. If you look at brown, gray, white, 152 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,679 there are many different shades. Go to a paint store 153 00:08:45,879 --> 00:08:48,960 and look at the color white, and how many different 154 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,879 chips or whatever they call those things, paint samples there 155 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,759 are of white. And the same applies to your landscape. 156 00:08:57,159 --> 00:08:59,559 I have a friend that I do stand up comedy with, 157 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,279 and he goes to the paint store and picks out 158 00:09:02,399 --> 00:09:05,639 paint chips and tries tries to match them to his 159 00:09:05,759 --> 00:09:09,720 skin color. And then it's hilarious to read the descriptions 160 00:09:09,759 --> 00:09:12,320 of the paint chips. So it's a lot of fun. 161 00:09:13,279 --> 00:09:15,480 Let me give you a limb a rick along this 162 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,000 line for today. As my landscape gets fuller and fuller, 163 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:25,240 I remember winter days that are duller. I celebrate this season, 164 00:09:25,399 --> 00:09:28,960 the vistas. The reason I like a kaleidoscope of color. 165 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,440 To pick one color, I'd be hard pressed. Yet my 166 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,720 tendency when I get dressed is I'll take any wavelength, 167 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,879 even if it's half strength. Of all the colors, I 168 00:09:40,039 --> 00:09:44,320 like blue the best. That's why I'm wearing blue today. 169 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 2: Do you have blue flowers in your gart Yeah? 170 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: I have much funds so lavender. I love phenomenal lavender, 171 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,759 and that to me is like a true blue. But 172 00:09:54,879 --> 00:09:59,159 I love that the nepettas like cat's pajamas. So yeah, 173 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:02,799 there's bl blue in my garden. But blue is kind 174 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:04,000 of elusive. 175 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:08,639 Speaker 2: Yes, definitely except for that blew my mind. But which 176 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,440 is a true blue? But you know, only problem with 177 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,919 that it's a retirement plant, only open during the day, 178 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:17,200 So there are many of us gardeners who can't appreciate 179 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:18,279 that incredible color. 180 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why you don't like my mojave personallyine, same thing, right, 181 00:10:22,879 --> 00:10:23,919 you know I don't. 182 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: Well, we don't have time to get into my thoughts 183 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,200 on person lane at the moment. 184 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 1: Let's continue on. This discussion is going to be great, 185 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,240 and plants on trial is next. 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But if we're looking a little bit odd 201 00:11:28,039 --> 00:11:32,519 or you know, kind of shivering, that is legit. And 202 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,960 we all know how Rick feels about air condier, so 203 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,879 he's especially suffering today. But let's warm him up with 204 00:11:38,919 --> 00:11:41,879 some color talk, get the opinions flow, and get you 205 00:11:41,879 --> 00:11:46,360 a little hot headed on your maybe you know. So, 206 00:11:46,519 --> 00:11:49,120 I am going to start with a controversial what's not 207 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:54,639 that little controversial assertion, and that is that let us 208 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,519 never forget that green and brown are colors. 209 00:11:57,759 --> 00:11:59,279 Speaker 1: Oh that's not controversial. 210 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: I agree, because you know, so many people don't think 211 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:06,559 of them as colors. And brown didn't come up in 212 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,440 anyone's response from the Facebook question, which is of course 213 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:14,639 not terribly surprising because much like green, you're gonna get 214 00:12:14,639 --> 00:12:16,639 brown in the garden, whether you like it or not. 215 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,440 It's you know, even if you live in a mild climate, 216 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:21,960 there are still things that go dormant, and you know 217 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,159 those will end up turning brown, whether that's a tree 218 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:26,879 or a perennial or whatever. And green, yeah, I mean, 219 00:12:26,919 --> 00:12:29,039 green is of course super crucial to the garden. But 220 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,679 you can't not You would have to try very hard 221 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,960 to avoid having green in your garden. 222 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: Like and there's so many shades of green. I love it. 223 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:39,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it too, And you know, I think that. 224 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: Is that why you wore green today? 225 00:12:41,919 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 2: No, I completely forgot when I was getting dressed today. 226 00:12:44,159 --> 00:12:46,960 I don't think about I don't usually think about the topic. 227 00:12:47,039 --> 00:12:48,960 I think about what I wore in the previous weeks. 228 00:12:49,039 --> 00:12:51,159 So I don't. You don't have the same shirts on 229 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:56,039 in our thumbnail. That's my I did think about wearing 230 00:12:56,919 --> 00:12:59,679 this kind of patterned shirt, but then I didn't want 231 00:12:59,679 --> 00:13:02,519 to Adriana in the evening and say, hey, can I 232 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:03,960 wear this, because this is kind of ones If you 233 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,679 have to ask, you probably just shouldn't type of situations. 234 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,279 Speaker 1: Well, evidently I didn't think of the topic either, Otherwise 235 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:10,919 I wouldn't be wearing teal shoes. 236 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,159 Speaker 2: In any case, I think that the shift, you know, 237 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,320 from thinking about green and brown as colors is because 238 00:13:21,799 --> 00:13:25,000 we tend to see them as textures and not really 239 00:13:25,039 --> 00:13:29,679 colors that we are specifically designing with. And you know, 240 00:13:29,759 --> 00:13:32,240 obviously it's not fun to think about brown right now. 241 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:35,360 But I think by the time, you know, November December 242 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,679 rolls around, you know, you kind of notice how things 243 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,000 that you may have put together without even thinking are 244 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,799 much more complimentary and make the garden much more interesting 245 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,279 than you know, if they were paired anywhere else. Some 246 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,399 things have really good contrast. 247 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up, and that's really smart 248 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:52,960 because when I was thinking about this what if question, 249 00:13:53,039 --> 00:13:56,200 I was thinking, forget the color, let's think about things 250 00:13:56,279 --> 00:14:00,519 like rhythm and repetition and height and and that sort 251 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,240 of thing when we create this flower bed, because that's 252 00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:04,840 going to be vitally important. 253 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:06,799 Speaker 2: It is, And you know, the only thing I would 254 00:14:06,799 --> 00:14:09,240 say about that is that is kind of for a 255 00:14:09,279 --> 00:14:12,120 lot of people who are especially newer in gardening or 256 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,679 not very confident in their aesthetic skills, that's a lot 257 00:14:15,759 --> 00:14:16,200 to ask. 258 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:16,879 Speaker 1: Yes, it is. 259 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,919 Speaker 2: You know, color is something that we can all respond 260 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,360 to on a daily basis, whether it's you know, clothing 261 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,919 or jewelry or home decor cut flowers. You know, there's 262 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:28,519 color like is a natural sort of starting point for people. 263 00:14:28,919 --> 00:14:30,480 And that's one of the reasons why I love the 264 00:14:30,519 --> 00:14:34,360 idea of this show is it's such an easy entry 265 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:37,279 point into gardening. If you don't know what to do, 266 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,799 just start with one color. Pick a color that you like, 267 00:14:40,279 --> 00:14:43,279 that is meaningful to you, that works with your home, 268 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,240 and you know, buy five plants with that color, whether 269 00:14:47,279 --> 00:14:50,000 that color is in flowers, foliage, fruit, all the above, 270 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,360 and start there, you know, enjoy that for a couple 271 00:14:53,399 --> 00:14:56,519 of years. By that time, plants will have moved around, 272 00:14:56,679 --> 00:14:59,519 some will have maybe died, some you'll decide you don't like. 273 00:15:00,039 --> 00:15:03,120 Then you can start replacing those with new plants and 274 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,720 expand on your color scheme or keep it monochromatic. It's 275 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,559 just it's such an easy way to design, and I 276 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,000 just think most people don't even think about it. They 277 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,000 think a garden has to be super colorful with lots 278 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:13,799 of different colors. 279 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: Good point. One of the respondents said, I will never 280 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,080 be a single color gardener poly yes. 281 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,279 Speaker 2: Mono no, okay, I mean I could be a single 282 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:25,440 color gardener. The problem is I'm too into the plants themselves, 283 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,840 not thinking about the color. But for those who need 284 00:15:27,879 --> 00:15:30,480 to think about the color. When you are thinking about color, 285 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:35,799 you know, flowers come and go. Even the longest blooming plants. 286 00:15:35,879 --> 00:15:38,639 You know, something like let's say a panicle hydrangel right 287 00:15:38,679 --> 00:15:42,000 blooms for months. Those flowers are very effective and attractive 288 00:15:42,039 --> 00:15:46,120 for months every year, you know, basically July to your 289 00:15:46,159 --> 00:15:49,000 first frost, well into October. But it's not the same 290 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,679 color the whole time. So you have a white flower 291 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:53,399 and then it either is going to turn green or 292 00:15:53,399 --> 00:15:55,879 pink or red or whatever. So even plants that are 293 00:15:55,879 --> 00:15:59,679 long blooming are still undergoing transitions. So if you have 294 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:02,559 a color scheme, whether it is a monochromatic or polychromatic, 295 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:05,960 and you want to make sure that that carries through 296 00:16:06,559 --> 00:16:10,639 your BFF is foliage best Foliage Friend foliage. 297 00:16:10,799 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: I agree with you. So with the what if question, 298 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:18,960 the color you choose may be contingent on the season. Yes, 299 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:21,679 I mean, my little lime punch are coming into flower 300 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:24,279 right now, and I can't wait for all the color 301 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,440 changes as we proceed forward. 302 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 2: Right, and then your color scheme is going to totally 303 00:16:27,799 --> 00:16:30,159 change because it might be something else right now. So 304 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,000 I wanted to share, and I'm going to have a 305 00:16:33,039 --> 00:16:35,480 whole list here. We can throw this up on YouTube, 306 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,679 because there's no way I'm getting through this massive list 307 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:41,080 in front of me in the remaining time for this segment. 308 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,320 But I wanted to share some of our best shrubs 309 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:48,279 for foliage color because shrubs with colorful foliage are just 310 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,080 such a crucial part of carrying through any color scheme, 311 00:16:51,519 --> 00:16:54,200 any kind of design, and whether they are deciduous and 312 00:16:54,279 --> 00:16:57,080 only really contributing that color sort of from that you 313 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,600 know April through October timeframe, evergreen, and you're getting that 314 00:17:01,639 --> 00:17:04,400 color all year round. These are the plants that are 315 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,759 really going to do the heavy lifting of enforcing your 316 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:11,920 color scheme in a nice way through the season. So 317 00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:14,000 I went through every color of the rainbow here and 318 00:17:14,039 --> 00:17:15,960 then some because I also had a pink, black and white, 319 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,279 which are not technically in the rainbow, and we have 320 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,960 great plants for all of them. We have great foliage 321 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,240 plants for every single color, no matter what you would want. 322 00:17:25,279 --> 00:17:27,759 And now I have to tell you I did not say, oh, 323 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:29,680 this plant is kind of this, it's kind of that, 324 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,440 or at some time of the year, it's this like 325 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:36,160 Fathergill is a great example, right, amazing red orange yellow 326 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,200 foliage in the fall. But that's not good enough. That's 327 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,960 not going to enforce your color scheme all season long. 328 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,039 So for red, we have things like Sunjoy really Red, 329 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:48,960 which is a really vivid red barbery, Kodiak red Durvilla, 330 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,319 and one of my all time favorite plants in the 331 00:17:51,319 --> 00:17:54,680 proven Winner's line, ginger Wine nine barbs. Oh yeah, you know, 332 00:17:54,759 --> 00:17:57,039 some of these reds can be a little bit subjective, 333 00:17:57,039 --> 00:17:58,480 and so when I was kind of going through my 334 00:17:58,559 --> 00:18:01,599 list and trying to assun plants to categories, I was like, 335 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:03,839 is it purple, is it red? Is it black? And 336 00:18:04,279 --> 00:18:07,319 sometimes again, as we've already discussed, these colors can be 337 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:12,000 very subjective. Some plants, like I put fun Shinabilia here 338 00:18:12,039 --> 00:18:15,119 in orange, could also go in the yellow. Sunjoy Neo 339 00:18:15,279 --> 00:18:18,039 is a bright, vivid orange as a Sunjoy orange pillar, 340 00:18:18,039 --> 00:18:21,160 and Sunjoy TAngelo. I love orange flowers. If you love 341 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,400 orange foliage, you've got to get these Kodiak orange and 342 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:29,920 Kodiak Spiced, which is kind of a warm morascity orange color. 343 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,319 Really cool. Now, my yellow list is just way too 344 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,759 long to go through because we have so many yellow 345 00:18:35,799 --> 00:18:38,920 foliage plants and you know, I don't know the science 346 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,880 behind this. All of this has to do with plant pigments, 347 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,359 and it's probably something along the lines of the yellow 348 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,759 pigments playing better with chlorophyll, which is itself a plant 349 00:18:48,759 --> 00:18:51,480 pigment than a lot of these other colors you know, 350 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,759 like purple or blue. You do have those, but there's 351 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:58,559 just no shortage of amazing yellow foliage plants, and a 352 00:18:58,599 --> 00:19:01,359 well chosen yellow foliage plant placed in the right place, 353 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,640 it can just completely transform our landscape. And if you 354 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,680 want winter color, yellow is definitely gonna be your best 355 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,319 bet because there are so many wonderful yellow conifers and 356 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,200 that will give you that year round color like polar, gold, 357 00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:18,480 fluffy and as magic ball. Of course, one of my 358 00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:22,400 favorite yellow flower foliage shrubs in the line is lemony 359 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,000 lace elderberry. Yes, such a great plant. We also have 360 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,400 golden Japanese holly like glow stick and glow pop, which 361 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:34,119 are gonna be evergreen for you, Sunshine blue tube Carriopterus, 362 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,599 which is gonna have yellow foliage and blue flowers. Nobody's 363 00:19:37,599 --> 00:19:41,000 gonna say no to that combination, and blue foliage. Now 364 00:19:41,079 --> 00:19:43,759 blue foliage is maybe not quite as elusive as true 365 00:19:43,799 --> 00:19:46,880 blue flowers. There are some options. We have our beautiful 366 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,480 Mucho Gusto Abelia, which is variegated but I think really 367 00:19:50,519 --> 00:19:54,839 has the impression of being blue. Aquavida juniper, really cool plant. 368 00:19:54,839 --> 00:19:56,680 It's finally starting to get out on the market after 369 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,680 so many people want it at Montana moss juniper. If 370 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,559 you're looking for blue winter color and in evergreen junipers 371 00:20:03,559 --> 00:20:05,599 are definitely going to be a great bet. And you'll 372 00:20:05,599 --> 00:20:09,839 also find blue in some of the Camisiprius aka false Cypress. 373 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,680 Kinsley's Ghost probably one of our best blues, right, no brainer. 374 00:20:13,799 --> 00:20:16,799 We're in agreement on that. Double play blue Kazoospyria and 375 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:22,400 our beautiful new splendid blue blueberry purple. We've got Winecraft black, 376 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:24,480 which is a little misleading because there's black in the name, 377 00:20:24,519 --> 00:20:26,640 but I would characterize this as more of a purple, 378 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,279 where something like Kodiak Jet black or black lace elderberry 379 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,240 I would definitely say are more black. And some of 380 00:20:34,279 --> 00:20:36,519 these it does kind of depend on the light, how 381 00:20:36,519 --> 00:20:39,000 the light hits them. It's really just a matter of 382 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:43,400 like the concentration of the same pigment so some grace 383 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,960 will be required as you are browsing the garden center. 384 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,920 And also remember when you are in the garden center, 385 00:20:49,079 --> 00:20:52,240 especially early in spring, a lot of plants that have 386 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,680 just come from the greenhouse and remained undercover will not 387 00:20:55,759 --> 00:20:58,240 be showing their best foliage color because they're not getting 388 00:20:58,319 --> 00:21:02,720 the full wavelength of sunlight. Sure, and that means that 389 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:05,599 certain colors will not present as well as they will 390 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,680 once they're out in your landscape. So you can't always 391 00:21:08,759 --> 00:21:10,759 kind of trust what you are seeing right there that 392 00:21:10,799 --> 00:21:14,240 it is an accurate representation, because things will be totally different. 393 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,640 This is especially true if you get plants by mail 394 00:21:16,759 --> 00:21:20,279 order which are not only in a greenhouse not getting 395 00:21:20,319 --> 00:21:22,720 the full spectrum of light, then get packed up in 396 00:21:22,759 --> 00:21:25,440 a box and a box and ship to you in 397 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:28,119 a box for who knows how long, not getting any 398 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,799 UV lights, and so sometimes their color can be a 399 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:33,079 little funky when you open it, but get them some 400 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,720 sunlight and you will see that happen. Anyway, we will 401 00:21:35,759 --> 00:21:38,599 put this whole list on YouTube so you can access 402 00:21:38,599 --> 00:21:41,079 it at your leisure, But right now we have to 403 00:21:41,079 --> 00:21:42,559 take a little break, and when we come back, we're 404 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:51,559 opening up the mail bags to stay tuned at Proven 405 00:21:51,599 --> 00:21:54,799 Winners Color Choice Shrubs. We know that a better landscape 406 00:21:54,839 --> 00:21:57,960 starts with a better shrub. Our team of experts tests 407 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,799 and evaluates all of our flowering shrubs and evergreens for 408 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,200 eight to ten years to ensure they outperform what's already 409 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:08,440 on the market. 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You can also reach us at Proven Winners 420 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,119 Color Choice dot com or proven Winners dot com. So 421 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,799 many ways to get some help with your gardening questions. Now, 422 00:22:46,319 --> 00:22:49,119 last week you were saying that you had found your 423 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,160 first to made a horn room on a pepper plant. Yeah, well, 424 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,839 wouldn't you know it. I got home that very evening 425 00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:57,359 after we recorded the show m HM, and I was 426 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,240 walking past my pepper plants that are in containers, and 427 00:23:00,279 --> 00:23:03,160 I saw some kind of specks on the ground and 428 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,920 I thought, oh, what are those? And I went for 429 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,599 a closer look. And I did not need to get 430 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,319 very close until I realized exactly what they were. And 431 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,400 if you were not familiar with the discovery of tomato 432 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,960 horn rooms, it's usually their excrement that gives them away first, 433 00:23:17,599 --> 00:23:19,599 or the damage because you see, you know, all of 434 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,400 a sudden, half time plant missing, and then you know 435 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,039 and they blend in so well. So sure enough I 436 00:23:26,079 --> 00:23:27,400 had my first tomato horn rooms. 437 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 1: Oh boy. 438 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: It did not take me long to find it because 439 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,440 it was massive, because usually by the time I have 440 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,799 rarely found one, like when it was in a younger 441 00:23:35,839 --> 00:23:38,920 stage and you know, tiny and manageable. I always find 442 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,119 them when they're massive, because it's not until they get 443 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,599 that size that their damage is so considerable that you 444 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,480 actually find them. Now. I have said on the show before, 445 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,640 I love insects, I really do. I am not the 446 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,079 least bit squeamish about insects. With the massive exception of 447 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:58,160 tomato horn ms. Okay, they just creep me out. They 448 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:02,640 are caterpillars, but I don't know, there's something about it. 449 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,640 They're like an overinflated balloon. They're just like so tight 450 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,039 and gross. 451 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,559 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people who love them because 452 00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:12,839 of the adult stage, right, Yeah. 453 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the moth is very interesting and they're interesting. 454 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,759 Speaker 1: So they say, you know, just live and let live 455 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,079 or I don't. Yeah. 456 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 2: I mean, they can eat other things, but obviously, if 457 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,279 we are competing for the same food, this is an issue. 458 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,079 You know, I'll let caterpillars eat a lot of my plants, 459 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,319 but when we're competing for the same food, this is different. 460 00:24:30,759 --> 00:24:33,880 So anyway, I was like, Okay, I'm gonna be brave. 461 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,680 I'm going to do it this time. I'm going to 462 00:24:35,759 --> 00:24:38,319 take it off with my hand. And I touched that 463 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,720 thing and I just shrieked like a little girl. Yeah, 464 00:24:40,759 --> 00:24:42,640 And my husband's like, what's wrong And I was like, oh, 465 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:49,160 it's a tomato horn room. He was like, oh, so anyway, yes, 466 00:24:49,319 --> 00:24:51,720 and that makes it so much worse. But the story, 467 00:24:51,759 --> 00:24:54,720 this has a point, and it's a good one. So anyway, 468 00:24:54,839 --> 00:24:56,519 I managed to get the thing off. I think I'm 469 00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,720 going to be brave and just like casually like put 470 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,440 it so, but no, I freak out. I throw it 471 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,839 into my driveway because I'm just like, get it off 472 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,519 me and anyway, go inside, don't think about it, thinking 473 00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:11,599 to myself like, oh, you know, I probably should go 474 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,079 and put that thing somewhere so it doesn't crawl back 475 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,039 to my peppers, which it was likely to do the 476 00:25:17,079 --> 00:25:21,319 Sirens song of the Peppers. So anyway, five minutes later, 477 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,279 I happened to walk by my back door, and you 478 00:25:24,319 --> 00:25:27,839 know what, I saw a robin pecking at this thing 479 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,680 and whipping it around, and it would peck it and 480 00:25:31,759 --> 00:25:34,240 whip it and peck it and whip it. Oh yeah, 481 00:25:34,279 --> 00:25:37,119 And not within five minutes of dropping this thing in 482 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,599 my driveway was a robin taking care of it for me. 483 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,000 So I felt that it was It was an excellent experience, 484 00:25:43,039 --> 00:25:44,400 and the robin got a great meal. 485 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: I figured you had a neighbor who fishes and said, 486 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:49,079 you're going to use that. 487 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,759 Speaker 2: Thing right, Oh, can you even imagine putting that thing 488 00:25:51,759 --> 00:25:54,599 on a fish hook? Oh, I'm gonna have nightmares. Anyway, 489 00:25:55,319 --> 00:25:57,960 So if you get tomato horn rooms and you also 490 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,839 camping yourself to crush them or do whatever to them, 491 00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:04,559 put them in your driveway and maybe a big happy 492 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,319 robin will have a lucky day. 493 00:26:06,559 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: So go. 494 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,319 Speaker 2: You just never know. Anyway, let us get to the mailbag. 495 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,480 I just had to share that because you know I've 496 00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:15,079 done that. I've always put them like in the driveway 497 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,240 or sidewalk in the hopes that a bird would get them. 498 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,200 But I never got to witness with my own two 499 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:19,839 eyes the bird. 500 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: That's what I do with Japanese beetles, and just chuck 501 00:26:23,319 --> 00:26:26,240 them on the pavement. But yeah, I don't know. 502 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: Well they can fly, at least the fly away. Yeah, yeah, 503 00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:35,400 all right, So Cheryl writes, this spring, I had to 504 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,480 remove two ash trees due to borer investation. That is 505 00:26:38,519 --> 00:26:41,640 so sad. The hydrates in the bed that were shaded 506 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,839 by these two enormous beauties are now in full sun. 507 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,799 Could this be the cause of these brown spots with 508 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,079 white centers. I've read about overhead watering causing fungal issues, 509 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,640 but I water with a wand at the ground. Only 510 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,960 any input you could provide would be appreciated. Now, Cheryl 511 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,200 did send some photos and this is a a classic. 512 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,400 Didn't even need to look it up. Case of circles 513 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,200 spore a leaf spot. Now they are big leaf hydranges 514 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:13,200 if we didn't mention that, and these are are very susceptible, 515 00:27:13,319 --> 00:27:16,640 especially older for the case to circle spore a leaf spot. Now, 516 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,039 the issue is not the loss of your trees, because 517 00:27:20,079 --> 00:27:25,160 if anything, that would probably make the situation better because 518 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,119 leaf spots, and you know, you can kind of generalize 519 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,720 about leaf fungle leaf spots because they really thrive when 520 00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:35,319 everything is wet and takes a long time to dry. 521 00:27:35,799 --> 00:27:38,240 So if you get better air circulation and better sunlight, 522 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,960 which we're moving two large trees would certainly do, you 523 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,680 would normally have fewer leaf spots. And yes, you want 524 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:49,559 to avoid overhead watering to minimize leaf spot. But the 525 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,920 thing about leaf spots is those fungal spores are everywhere, 526 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,799 and just because you are seeing a fungal leaf spot 527 00:27:56,839 --> 00:27:59,640 develop now does not mean it happened now. It typically 528 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,920 happens months ago in the spring. And the reason that 529 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,240 fungal leaf spots happen in the spring is because a 530 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:10,160 it's pretty wet most of the time and b when 531 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,039 that foliage comes out, it doesn't have that waxy cuticle 532 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,839 to protect it. It's it's very tender, and you'll notice that, 533 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,279 you know, in spring that that the leaves feel very soft, 534 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,480 and so that is when they infect it. And then 535 00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:26,279 the fungal you know, bodies kind of grow in on 536 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,799 the leaf tissue. And it's important to remember that too, 537 00:28:28,839 --> 00:28:31,640 that fungal diseases grow on top of the leaf tissue. 538 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,319 They are not in the plant like a plant. Not 539 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,039 only that, it'll only have these for like one season 540 00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:41,599 and then it won't if you take measures, it won't 541 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,519 have it anymore. But a lot of people want to 542 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,759 attack fungle leaf spots when they see them come up 543 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:48,079 in the summer, and it won't really do any good. 544 00:28:48,119 --> 00:28:50,759 The damage is done, the fungus is growing in there. 545 00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:54,039 The single best thing that you can do is clean 546 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,160 up the foliage in full. I know that's easier said 547 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,400 than done, but that is where all of those leaf 548 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,599 spot fungus are going to spend winter, waiting to reinfect 549 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,519 the plant next year when the leaves start to come 550 00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:07,640 out and they're all tender again. 551 00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:10,599 Speaker 1: Good analogy is when I have my ice cream at night, 552 00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:15,000 invariably I always drip some Hershey's chocolate syrup on my shirt. 553 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,599 Got to wash the shirt, then I can wear it again. 554 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:25,000 Proceed shirt spots. Adrianna like that analogy. 555 00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: So in any case, Cheryl, No, it has nothing to 556 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,240 do with losing your trees. It's probably just that there 557 00:29:31,319 --> 00:29:33,839 were fungal leaf spots around, so do your best to 558 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,920 clean those up. And if you continue to get them 559 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,799 year after year after year, that could indicate that the 560 00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:42,359 site is just not great for something that is naturally 561 00:29:42,359 --> 00:29:47,480 susceptible to circuspora leaf spot just because the airflow or 562 00:29:47,599 --> 00:29:51,519 whatever other factors. So continuous leaf spot, even when you're 563 00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:55,319 doing good sanitation and removing all of that foliage might 564 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,799 just be your signal from mother nature that you should 565 00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:02,440 move the plant. Can take that as a sign. Now, 566 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:08,559 we had a question for you, Rick, Okay, someone Jill 567 00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:12,119 listener Jill right, and she said Rick talked about using 568 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,240 a leaf mulcher. I would like to know what type 569 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,720 and model he uses. I have many trees around my 570 00:30:16,759 --> 00:30:18,640 garden and would like to mulch leaves and put them 571 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,720 back in the garden. And this is the best thing 572 00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:22,799 that you can do. Don't ship them off to your 573 00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,920 landfill unless someone else benefit. This is one of the 574 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,519 best things you can do for your garden and soil. 575 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,079 Speaker 1: Well, I'm very excited because Adrian is coming over to 576 00:30:32,119 --> 00:30:34,920 my house, okay, and I'm going to fire this bad 577 00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:38,039 boy up to show Adriana what I what I do 578 00:30:38,079 --> 00:30:41,960 because I'm essentially growing a garden on beach sand, so 579 00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:45,359 I need to add lots of organic matter. And this 580 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:49,920 thing is fantastic. It's only a thirteen amp electric leaf multure. 581 00:30:52,079 --> 00:30:54,559 Fortunate for me, it would be very hard for me 582 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,160 to hurt myself with it. 583 00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 2: I was gonna ask is it safe. 584 00:30:57,519 --> 00:31:02,279 Speaker 1: It's safe, and it's spelled works, so it's wo r 585 00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:06,200 X works and you can buy these things. It's the 586 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,680 best way I can describe it is it's like a 587 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,279 paper shredder that you have in your office except for 588 00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:16,079 the outdoors. And it works fantastic and it has helped 589 00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:20,440 add organic matter to my soil. And we're going to 590 00:31:20,519 --> 00:31:23,680 film that. I'll show it in use. But it's a 591 00:31:23,839 --> 00:31:26,680 works thirteen amp electric leaf mold. 592 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,799 Speaker 2: Now let me ask you this, how does it do 593 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,359 on your ornamental grasses? 594 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 1: Does not work? 595 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, I wouldn't have been surprised if that was case, 596 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,200 because I could see that just kind of going around 597 00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:39,839 and around insurn and not really breaking up. 598 00:31:39,839 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: The downside for this thing. Again, I used to just 599 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,559 set out a trash can, put on goggles, put a 600 00:31:45,599 --> 00:31:48,160 weed whipper in there, whip up the leaves like I'm 601 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,400 making a recipe. But this thing's fantastic. But the leaves 602 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,839 have to be dry and you can't put in too 603 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,640 many at a time, so it's not like it's this 604 00:31:58,759 --> 00:32:02,519 work or where branch are going in right, right, It's 605 00:32:02,519 --> 00:32:07,079 not a chipper leaves ideal. And I use the leaves, 606 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,640 the shredded leaves during the growing season also as a 607 00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:13,640 molt around the base of plants, and I use them 608 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,400 in my composter to add some of that carbon material. 609 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is so important because especially through winter, you 610 00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:21,440 never are short on the greens because you've got your 611 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,640 food scraps and everything, but you are typically short on 612 00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:28,319 the browns, especially since nobody gets newspaper anymore, or even 613 00:32:28,319 --> 00:32:30,160 if you do get the newspaper, they're way too thin 614 00:32:30,359 --> 00:32:35,039 to be useful for much of anything anymore either, So 615 00:32:35,359 --> 00:32:37,960 primarily for fall leaves, but a great way to use 616 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,319 them up right on site and reduce the need to 617 00:32:41,599 --> 00:32:44,599 get lawn bags and have yard hulled away and all 618 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:44,799 of that. 619 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,079 Speaker 1: And as mentioned by one of our viewers, you know 620 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,839 in spring there are over wintering insects. I'm not using 621 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,599 it in spring, but I am using it in fall, 622 00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:58,200 and I'm gonna let Adriana take it for a ride. 623 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 2: All right, all right, well, I'm looking forward to seeing that. 624 00:33:02,279 --> 00:33:04,720 Thank you all so much for your questions. We're going 625 00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:06,119 to take a little break and then we are going 626 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:09,119 to continue asking what if when we come back, So 627 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:18,400 stay tuned. Thanks for listening to the Gardening Simplified Podcast, 628 00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:21,279 brought to you by Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs. Our 629 00:33:21,319 --> 00:33:24,359 award winning flowering shrubs and evergreens are trialed and tested 630 00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:27,319 by experts with your success in mind. Learn more at 631 00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:30,960 Proven Winners color Choice dot com. 632 00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:33,839 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where today we 633 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,319 ask what if? What if you could only use one 634 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,759 color in a garden bed, a flower bed? What would 635 00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:44,680 you use? And? Like I mentioned in the first segment, 636 00:33:44,759 --> 00:33:49,079 I love asking the question what if on a whole 637 00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:52,160 bunch of things. For example, what if you could only 638 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:56,680 have one type of food? What would it be? And 639 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,880 then I ask myself would it be less about the 640 00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:04,599 taste and more about the nutrition benefits? When you think 641 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:09,360 about flowers, I'm thinking foliage first. And when you think 642 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,440 about this and if you had to pick that one food, 643 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,519 what would it be. Would you lean towards taste or 644 00:34:16,559 --> 00:34:20,920 would you lean towards the nutritional benefits of that food? 645 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:22,719 Something to ponder. 646 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 2: I mean, you really have to give that to answers 647 00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:27,599 because you have to answer both aspects, because if this 648 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,400 is some sort of you know, terrible world where you're 649 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,960 only picking on nutrition, then yeah, you're going to want 650 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,000 to make your choice affully, carefully, Whereas if it's just 651 00:34:36,039 --> 00:34:37,719 like what do you like the most and want to eat? 652 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,480 But you know, if you're eating everything all the time, anything, 653 00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:43,199 all the time, you'll get tired of it exactly. 654 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,159 Speaker 1: So it's you know, asking what if is a great 655 00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,519 way to ask these types of questions, And that's what 656 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:52,719 was posed by proven winners color Choice Shrubs in social media, 657 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,800 asking if you could only pick one color for a 658 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,559 flower bed, what would it be? And as I scrolled 659 00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:02,239 through the responses, Stacy, I found it pretty fascinating. Like 660 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,880 I said, a lot of people said white because of 661 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:10,400 moon gardens. White can be more complicated than you think. 662 00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:15,320 And then many people said the color purple, I was 663 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,679 amazed how many people liked the color purple and would 664 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,000 choose that as their choice. But then when you think 665 00:35:23,039 --> 00:35:25,840 about it, I look at the list. I look, for example, 666 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,480 at hukuras and the wild berry hukara that I have 667 00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:35,000 in my landscape. What an incredible purple color. There are 668 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,039 many people who would never give up their salvias, like 669 00:35:38,119 --> 00:35:42,199 the rock and salvias, the fusia or purple color salvias, 670 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,920 because of the way they attract hummingbirds to the landscape. 671 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 2: I couldn't find rock and deep purple this year, but 672 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,800 I do have a similar generic. I do prefer the 673 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,760 rock and deep purple when I can find it, but 674 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,559 I couldn't, And man, has that thing just been crawling 675 00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,440 with hummingbirds over the past couple weeks. It's been so fun. 676 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,199 And that is a beautiful purple, you know. It's it's 677 00:36:04,679 --> 00:36:07,320 a true assertive purple. And I like that. 678 00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:10,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. So, if push comes to shovel and if I 679 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,519 were backed into a corner, I think I'd probably pick 680 00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:16,199 the color blue. But then it really gets my mind 681 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,440 working because I think about all these people who would 682 00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:23,719 pick purple. I mean, think bud Leah's and the sweet 683 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:27,079 summer love Clematis in my landscape right now, is in bloom, 684 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,719 gorgeous rise up lilac days heliotrope, and I haven't even 685 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,639 mentioned pansies yet. You know, pansies have such vibrant color 686 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,079 and a true dark purple pansy. Wow. 687 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,559 Speaker 2: Yes, you know what probably one of my all time 688 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:46,679 favorite purple flowers are. What's that when you find a 689 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,960 really good true purple big leaf hydrangea, you know, everybody 690 00:36:52,039 --> 00:36:55,440 wants the blue, but I have seen some gorgeous purples, 691 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,000 and very often people think that that purple is just 692 00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,559 kind of about having the exact right pH b. It 693 00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:03,920 is genetic, so only some varieties will be able to 694 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,679 get that true deep purple. But man, when you see it, oof, 695 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:07,320 I love that. 696 00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:11,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it in bud Leah's. But a lot 697 00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:14,800 of people, I think, would say iris and you see 698 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,159 a true purple irons. 699 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know that's spring too. You're just like 700 00:37:19,559 --> 00:37:22,639 so excited to see those colors coming back, so that 701 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,760 gets like extra bonus points for that reason. 702 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,159 Speaker 1: And purple tulips purple tulips also, but Stacy, A lot 703 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,039 of people responded also that they would pick pink. 704 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,519 Speaker 2: Yes and that's a supprest. No, not at all. I 705 00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:37,639 actually thought pink would win over purple, okay, and it 706 00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:39,960 was close. So there was over one hundred and forty 707 00:37:40,039 --> 00:37:43,480 mentions of purple lavender violet and just over one hundred 708 00:37:43,519 --> 00:37:48,679 and thirty of pink fusia, so very very close. You know, 709 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,119 I don't think of myself as a pink person, but 710 00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:52,840 if you were to see my garden at this very moment, 711 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,840 you would be like, lady, what are you talking about? 712 00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,480 I have so many pink flowers right now, and it's 713 00:37:57,519 --> 00:37:59,320 just the way that it is. I didn't set out 714 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,519 to do that, just bought a bunch of stuff and 715 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,360 it's going. And my guarden is having an odd pink moment. Also, 716 00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:08,360 you know why some horrifics starting to bloom? Oh that's right, 717 00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:09,519 are yours blooming too? 718 00:38:09,639 --> 00:38:11,760 Speaker 1: They're just starting. 719 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:12,760 Speaker 2: Because I started bloom. 720 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. 721 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,440 Speaker 2: Mine started about ten days ago and it is the earliest, Yeah, 722 00:38:16,519 --> 00:38:19,000 the earliest I have ever seen them come into bloom, 723 00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:21,199 not that far, because usually I don't get my first 724 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:24,559 flowers until right around now, and I've been really surprised 725 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,159 at how early they've bloomed. And you know, we've had 726 00:38:28,159 --> 00:38:31,199 some heat waves, but nothing so crazy that I think 727 00:38:31,639 --> 00:38:34,679 would explain them being this early, you know, not anything 728 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,360 worse than other years where we've had you know, hot 729 00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:40,920 heat in July. But I'm not complaining. They look amazing 730 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,599 and they are very much making my garden have an 731 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,360 uncharacteristic pink moment. 732 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: Well, pink really gives a romantic and gentle appeal to 733 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,239 the landscape. And as I've often said, pink is just 734 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,159 fabulous in the landscape because it plays well with other 735 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,360 colors you picked the color or whatever it is, even 736 00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:04,320 construction orange pink plays well. 737 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,719 Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, when I first started here a long 738 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,360 long time ago, my colleague Jane said to me, I said, 739 00:39:10,519 --> 00:39:13,280 I think's not my favorite color, and she said that 740 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,800 she had heard a designer I believe was Isaac Msrahi 741 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,239 say that hot pink is a neutral and that kind 742 00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:21,880 of takes you abat so at first, but the more 743 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,199 you think about it, the more you're like, actually, kind 744 00:39:24,199 --> 00:39:27,760 of yeah, there is really nothing that you can't pair 745 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,360 with hot pink. 746 00:39:29,159 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: That's a good point. 747 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,599 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm Adrian is racking her brain over there, 748 00:39:32,599 --> 00:39:35,000 and I think she agrees. She can't think of a 749 00:39:35,039 --> 00:39:37,000 color that does not pair well with hot pink. 750 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:42,199 Speaker 1: Well, you know, asking this what if question hypothetically does 751 00:39:43,039 --> 00:39:47,880 at all causes us to look at our landscapes and think, Okay, 752 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:54,039 I need to plan for succession succession planting because it 753 00:39:54,119 --> 00:39:58,280 is difficult to pick just a color. One of the 754 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,360 respondents simply and cap letters with an exclamation point, said, 755 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,920 I can't. I just simply can't do it. So I 756 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,920 think our choice for that one color probably would be 757 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,199 contingent on the season, the season that we're in. You know, 758 00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,880 in springs, we're in spring, we're going to lean towards 759 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,039 pastels and pinks and that sort of thing. And then 760 00:40:21,079 --> 00:40:24,719 in summer the hot colors, the red, the orange, the yellow, 761 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,239 and then as you get to fall, some of the 762 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,559 warmer colors. So it is a tough question to answer. 763 00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:33,920 And there were a number of people who jumped in 764 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,679 and said, don't forget peach and. 765 00:40:35,559 --> 00:40:38,039 Speaker 2: Coral, right, Yeah, a lot of people love that. 766 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, so a fabulous color for the landscape. I just 767 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,559 think it's super important to bear in mind once again 768 00:40:45,679 --> 00:40:50,639 asking this what if question. It helps helps emphasize the 769 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:56,960 fact how important foliage is in our landscapes to provide color. 770 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:03,199 Bark and berries and fully all super important elements to 771 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,079 give you that color that you want in your landscape 772 00:41:06,559 --> 00:41:11,559 from season to season. The other surprise for me in 773 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:16,079 this informal survey is the fact that yellow is such 774 00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:20,360 a cheerful color. It's a wonderful color. I love yellow, 775 00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:23,480 but it's really not super high on the list. 776 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 2: It is not. And you know, I don't know if 777 00:41:27,039 --> 00:41:31,639 that's partly because it's just so easy to find yellow flowers. Probably, 778 00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:34,679 And you know, this all comes down to pollination, especially 779 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,559 if you are a native plant gardener, as I am. 780 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,719 You know, I don't think if I wanted to be, 781 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,880 you know, serious about having plants for pollinators, I could 782 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,880 get away with not having yellow. I mean, if you're 783 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,239 growing North American natives, you really just don't have much 784 00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,400 of a choice but to have some yellow. But I 785 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,480 do love yellow. I love it as part of flowers 786 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,559 when it's you know, just one of some of many 787 00:41:56,559 --> 00:42:00,280 colors you know, within a flower, and it is cheerful. Yeah. 788 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,239 I think for many people it's just it's just there, 789 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,480 you know, It's something they kind of take for granted. 790 00:42:05,519 --> 00:42:08,079 But again, we talked about yellow foliage in plants on trial, 791 00:42:08,599 --> 00:42:11,159 and a lot of people do love those golden conifers 792 00:42:11,199 --> 00:42:14,239 and other plants with yellow foliage, especially if they're trying 793 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,639 to bring light to a darker area. 794 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what we're trying to do. If we 795 00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:25,159 as humans communicate color with hue, saturation and lightness. And 796 00:42:25,199 --> 00:42:27,880 I'll tell you what, sit down sometime and do some 797 00:42:28,039 --> 00:42:31,559 reading on color theory. It just blows your mind. I mean, 798 00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:35,679 you can spend days reading about color theory. But they 799 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,159 remind me that color is not light. Color is how 800 00:42:39,199 --> 00:42:43,960 we perceive light. So again, when you're in the landscape, 801 00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:48,199 just look at a color like green simply in the lawn. 802 00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:52,000 The difference between that green in the sunlight and the 803 00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:56,239 green in the shade is dynamic and brings up the 804 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:01,199 point again how important foliage is in our landscapes. Now, 805 00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:07,920 if we could only create a hardy croton for my sorry. 806 00:43:07,679 --> 00:43:09,639 Speaker 2: We'll work on it, you know, we'll keep you in 807 00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:11,760 mind on that one. I think another useful thing that 808 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,639 you can do in your own garden is, in addition 809 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,440 to seeing it in different lights, if you have a 810 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,800 certain circuit that you kind of tend to walk as you, 811 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,079 you know, go around your yard or garden, try doing 812 00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:27,840 it opposite and see everything from the opposite side, and 813 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,800 you will notice a lot of differences, you know, even 814 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:32,559 though it's the same space that you see all the 815 00:43:32,599 --> 00:43:36,119 time and have walked countless times already this season. I 816 00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:39,480 often find when I switch up my sort of perambulatory 817 00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:42,079 route around the garden, things look a lot different. 818 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:47,119 Speaker 1: That's interesting. Or if you have a drone, yes like 819 00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:51,239 Adriana and she sends it up, gives you a completely 820 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,000 different perspective. 821 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,519 Speaker 2: It does. I have been lucky enough to get some 822 00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:57,280 drone footage of my own garden, so yeah, fantastic. 823 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 1: Well this has been fun. Thank you, thank you Rick, 824 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,039 thank you Adriana, and thank you for watching us on 825 00:44:04,119 --> 00:44:08,920 YouTube or downloading our podcast and to our radio show listeners. 826 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,960 Have yourself a colorful and wonderful week.