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<v Speaker 1>This is I on the Ball with Steve Rivera on

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<v Speaker 2>Yets goodbody. Welcome to Eye on the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, and with me

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<v Speaker 2>today is a dude who said I will work for

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<v Speaker 2>free on the corner of the speedway and something, and

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<v Speaker 2>so he decided to come in at home. Did the

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<v Speaker 2>hell were you holding nothing? I saw? I gotta feed

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<v Speaker 2>this guy, Jay Ga Zalis, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>Good to be here.

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<v Speaker 2>We got our guy Kobe and usual unusual Friday, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yep, Nice see you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good, good good. What's going on? Jay? We we're

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<v Speaker 2>over the super Bowl no longer at the casino on

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday. This bums.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a good football season, Steve, both from a

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<v Speaker 3>you know, our our our. I know I lost to you,

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<v Speaker 3>but I had a good year but also did some

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<v Speaker 3>did some nice stuff online.

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<v Speaker 2>The Tahiti chrip is on as well.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I've got money to play with for the for

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<v Speaker 3>baseball now and for March Madness as well.

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<v Speaker 5>So okay, but you know it was a fun football season.

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<v Speaker 5>I hate to ask you how well, because just well

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<v Speaker 5>enough that I'm not dipping into the bank account.

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<v Speaker 2>Good good, good, Well, welcome to Friday. A big game tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to get the beat why you beat writer,

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<v Speaker 2>But those people in Utah, you don't know what the

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<v Speaker 2>hell's going. I don't know what this trail all day?

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<v Speaker 2>Last time I did too. Uh So, you know, what

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<v Speaker 2>do you think about tomorrow? I will hope to get

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<v Speaker 2>some calls. We're gonna talk to Dennis Dodd here at

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<v Speaker 2>three seventeen to get the scope of the nation and

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<v Speaker 2>the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I think I think Arizona's really hard to beat

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<v Speaker 3>at home, and and so i'd like to think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>probably a you know, maybe seven or eight point win

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<v Speaker 3>or something like that. You know something, again, I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be a hard game, as they all are,

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<v Speaker 3>as all the Big twelve games are. And I've got

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of rant about that. I was ranting

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<v Speaker 3>earlier this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay about what twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>Just about fans understanding how hard it is to win.

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<v Speaker 2>Without question, you know, they didn't understand it in the

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<v Speaker 2>Pac twelve and it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>That right and the fans not getting it, and then

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<v Speaker 3>I'll you know, I'll get to that and you know later.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, b YUS, you know, they're they're a

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<v Speaker 3>good team, they're playing well. You know, I think we

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<v Speaker 3>were surprised that they won Arizona one at b YU. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I was right, And so to think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that was a hard game to win. You know, the

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<v Speaker 3>way they they lighted up from three. You know, if

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<v Speaker 3>they're hot, they're going to be hard to be sure, No,

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<v Speaker 3>no question.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, at that time when they won that game

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<v Speaker 2>at b YU, I said that might have been the

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<v Speaker 2>best win of the season at that time. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they've really kind of even expanded on that, right, Iowa

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<v Speaker 2>State and just the recent one on the Baylor and

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<v Speaker 2>the Houston loss, wasn't that bad of a loss to me?

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<v Speaker 3>And and then again that that going back to why

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<v Speaker 3>I was ranting at people, you know earlier in this week. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>Monday on Tuesday, Okay, they beat Baylor Monday night. And

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<v Speaker 3>I get it, it was late some people maybe and sit

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<v Speaker 3>up and watch the whole thing. But they win at

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<v Speaker 3>Baylor after losing two tough games, including a really good

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<v Speaker 3>game to a really really good Houston team. I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>It was at home, and they get they had a lead,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, late in the second half, and I get

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<v Speaker 3>that Houston, you know, ran them down. But Houston's really

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<v Speaker 3>damn good. Yeah, one of the better teams that a

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<v Speaker 3>National championship quality team, right, and then they then they

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<v Speaker 3>beat Baylor, and then Monday on Tuesday, all I hear

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<v Speaker 3>is how bad Arizona looks.

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<v Speaker 2>Like just fans you're following Twitter, and both people.

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<v Speaker 3>That I know, people that I see these were, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and people that you would be surprised what would be saying.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, you know, it was a did you

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<v Speaker 3>watch the game?

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<v Speaker 6>Say?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I did? Well, you know Caleb this, and they

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<v Speaker 3>turned the ball over too much and they you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Henry can't hang on to the ball and all these things.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, did you watch the end of the game, Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know they won, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, they one and they didn't they did what they

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<v Speaker 2>couldn't do against Houston.

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<v Speaker 3>And you watched it on TV because it was at Baylor.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't here in Tucson, so you know they won.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet what are you bitching about, Well, they don't

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<v Speaker 3>do this and they don't do that, and they're they're

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<v Speaker 3>vulnerable here, and they're vulnerable there. I said, wait a minute, stop,

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<v Speaker 3>you also know they're twelve and three in the Big twelve, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that too? And they're in second place, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>behind a team that could win the national championship. This person, yeah, okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having this conversation with live with people, not just

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<v Speaker 3>and not.

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<v Speaker 2>Just one person, like that group of yours. It is,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't it. You look at me like which group? The

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<v Speaker 2>group of some of them right?

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<v Speaker 3>Who you know? Who they are?

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<v Speaker 2>What are they? What are they thinking?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Adam and I my son and my son and are

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<v Speaker 3>going to guys because they're complaining about Caleb. They're complaining

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<v Speaker 3>that we turned the ball over too much. They said,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not tough and gritty?

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<v Speaker 2>What And I was just I was gonna say this

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<v Speaker 2>to you after this conversation or before this conversation, what

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<v Speaker 2>has been the most oppressive thing about their toughness? They're tough?

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<v Speaker 3>I said, wait a minute, let's go back to when

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<v Speaker 3>let's go back to when Arizona got in the Big twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>and what did we say?

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think about it?

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<v Speaker 3>What did you think they're gonna have to get a

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<v Speaker 3>lot tougher if they're gonna be good in the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>They're twelve and three in the Big twelve. So what's

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<v Speaker 3>the conclusion you can draw from that that they're tougher?

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, how can you sit there and say

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<v Speaker 3>they're not tough?

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<v Speaker 7>What?

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<v Speaker 2>What team are they watching?

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<v Speaker 3>What do you want?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here's the here's the demise, Jay, is that in

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<v Speaker 2>a month or so, if they happen to lose in

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<v Speaker 2>the thirty two game or the sixteen game or whatever game,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna say I told you, Jay, they just turn

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<v Speaker 2>the ball too much, they're not tough enough. Bla blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah. Eventually, Okay, yes, but not now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm okay, I'm confident. I'm confident enough to say this.

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<v Speaker 3>If Arizona loses, you know, earlier than we think they

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<v Speaker 3>should the tournament, in the tournament, okay, it's not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be because they weren't tough enough. It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be because maybe they had a bad shooting night, somebody

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<v Speaker 3>had a really bad game, a team matched up with

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<v Speaker 3>them in a way that that you know, it was

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<v Speaker 3>just a bad matchup for them. It's not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be because they weren't tough enough. Like when we think

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<v Speaker 3>back to you know that that year that they had

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<v Speaker 3>to scrap to beat TCU and then Houston beat him

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<v Speaker 3>in the next round, and they will clearly like you

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<v Speaker 3>guys weren't tough. It was glaring. Not anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, this is not the team that we

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<v Speaker 2>saw in December. They found some magic of one getting

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<v Speaker 2>tougher right and finding ways to to win. Henry, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, who would you say the m v P

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<v Speaker 2>of the team is right now?

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<v Speaker 3>Since over the last several weeks, Henry vas too without

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<v Speaker 3>without him, I don't know where they are. But the

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<v Speaker 3>point being that you've got fans who are watching this

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<v Speaker 3>team play and and they have issues with how they're playing.

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<v Speaker 3>Ye I mean, shouldn't shouldn't shouldn't them? Whatever you think

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<v Speaker 3>of the team be based on whether or not they're

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<v Speaker 3>winning games in the Big Twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised by the group that well I'm not surprised.

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<v Speaker 2>I am surprised because they should know better. Uh, some

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<v Speaker 2>of them. Uh this team is Hey, this team had

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<v Speaker 2>to I had to get sold on this team. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>kind of being more sold than I have ever been

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<v Speaker 2>because of the toughness. Uh, you don't need Caleb as

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<v Speaker 2>much as you did in the past, at least perception wise.

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<v Speaker 2>Henry has kind of added to a Waka's uh inside power.

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<v Speaker 3>He gives them a change of pace inside over there.

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<v Speaker 3>You know you've been you've been packing it down with

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<v Speaker 3>Tobyo Waka down there. Then he comes out of the

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<v Speaker 3>game and Henry comes in, and now you got to

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<v Speaker 3>get out on the on the perimeter.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the other play together, and they're playing together, which

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<v Speaker 2>makes it hard. I'm surprised.

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<v Speaker 3>And then and then you know, older guys right in

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<v Speaker 3>my breakfast club, the same conversation. I had the same

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<v Speaker 3>conversation all day Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 2>How do those guys become successful business people?

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<v Speaker 7>Our sales are gone.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how many times I said to somebody,

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<v Speaker 3>you do know Arizona won last night?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, they picked And we just gotta I just

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<v Speaker 2>gotta text for one of our friends who said that

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<v Speaker 2>you're spot on, because that's all you hear on Twitter

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<v Speaker 2>and Facebook, people bitching about whatever. Enjoy the moment, because

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<v Speaker 2>these moments are not are not gonna have.

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<v Speaker 3>I am having so much fun this basketball season because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't you know. One of the things I one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things I said was, Okay, Arizona's got twenty

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<v Speaker 3>conference games, all right, And they had twenty conference games

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<v Speaker 3>the last couple of years in the big in the

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<v Speaker 3>in the PAC twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, when you.

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<v Speaker 3>Looked at the PAC twelve schedule, at the twenty conference games,

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<v Speaker 3>how many games did you think were losable?

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe three?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe three? Yeah, you know you thought the two UCLA

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<v Speaker 3>games could be losable. You figured you'd split with Oregon,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, maybe maybe you count and that's it, right, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Year after year after year, you thought maybe there's two

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<v Speaker 3>or three games, and if they lost any more than that,

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<v Speaker 3>you thought, what's wrong with you?

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on? Hold up? Thought we got a call. Hello,

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<v Speaker 2>you're on the air and on the ball. Who's this hey, guys?

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<v Speaker 8>How you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>What's up?

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<v Speaker 6>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>You think what were you think?

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know, I don't know what got into Jay,

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<v Speaker 8>but whatever he had, I want to eat some of it.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh No, I agree, I agree wholeheartedly. The the interest

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<v Speaker 8>thing about this team this year is they have struggled.

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<v Speaker 8>They you know, they haven't shot well, I shouldn't say

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<v Speaker 8>struggle overall. They have struggle with They're shooting and Caleb,

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<v Speaker 8>you know Caleb specifically, but like you said, they're twelve

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<v Speaker 8>was that if if Anyson is struggling like this, can

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<v Speaker 8>you imagine if they get in a hot streak, what

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<v Speaker 8>I mean, they've gotten in the past, they've been really

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<v Speaker 2>On a hot streak. To your point to me and

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<v Speaker 8>I think the thing about me and Jay is that

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<v Speaker 8>has been the Final four and what twenty four years,

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it just makes sense. You know, Hey, guess what

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<v Speaker 8>Well, I just wanted to call them and just say

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<v Speaker 8>I agree with Jay, and I think people should just

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Okay, all right, thanks, So you made Jay's dat whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>So so, you know, to finish the point I was making, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know Pack twelve season, you know, three maybe four

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<v Speaker 2>All of them. Here's the thing that I asked the

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<v Speaker 2>how many times you say, okay, we're ready for this

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<v Speaker 2>the tournament, right, not as much as you think you

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<v Speaker 3>To my point, which I think you know, if they

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<v Speaker 3>for lack of something, maybe for lack of shooting, something

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of guys have a stretch of bad games

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<v Speaker 3>and you don't win games, whatever, But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, because that's been to me, that's been the biggest,

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<v Speaker 3>Unless people who equate losing and and however you lose,

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<v Speaker 3>how do you lose? Unless people equate that too, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>they lost it because they weren't tough. Well, no, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they lost because the other team was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's that's the thing. They're not factor, right, that's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>The ten people that you have lunch with, you get

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<v Speaker 2>a limited about five of them. But but how many

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<v Speaker 3>There's a handful, there's a handful, But you got more

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<v Speaker 3>people who, as you say, are nitpicking. They're saying, but

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<v Speaker 3>if we don't do that better, we can't go far.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm saying, guess what, We've gone pretty far doing

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what they're doing up to now. You know, Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>a Yukon, you know, gets on a tear like they

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<v Speaker 3>away that that can happen. But this team, let's say

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<v Speaker 3>all of it comes together, they can do that. Whereas

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<v Speaker 2>What the other guys don't understand is the other teams,

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<v Speaker 2>like you kind of said, well, the other teams are

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<v Speaker 2>You have to play Houston mentioned if you played about Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>They played them here, they played them well. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to wy in the Ball Here on

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<v Speaker 2>Now on the phone, we have Dennis Dott, one of

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<v Speaker 2>our great guys from CBS Sports. Dennis, How are you

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<v Speaker 2>are you there, danns Well, I'm here, Hi, Dennis, Welcome,

446
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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the show. We always love having you. You're

447
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<v Speaker 2>a busy, busy man football with all the stuff going

448
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<v Speaker 2>on with the college football situation, basketball going on. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk first about Arizona basketball in the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think about the twelve to this point.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what's the biggest The biggest story is one

452
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<v Speaker 6>of the biggest disappointments that can Yeah, you've got people

453
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<v Speaker 6>from ESPN now you know, same players quit and what

454
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<v Speaker 6>happened canns basketball story came out today The Bill self

455
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<v Speaker 6>interviews the Oklahoma State job like a year ago today.

456
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<v Speaker 6>That's his alma mater, but still shocking for a Hall

457
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<v Speaker 6>of Fame coach, still in the prime of his career.

458
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<v Speaker 6>And it's and look, the league is down a tick.

459
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<v Speaker 6>I think the SEC is just killing it. It's by

460
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<v Speaker 6>falling away the best conference this year. I think Arizona's

461
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<v Speaker 6>a good story. Houston's you know, may win the league.

462
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<v Speaker 6>We'll see, uh, but I think it's more there's more

463
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<v Speaker 6>parody this year in the league than there was last year.

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<v Speaker 6>Still a good league, it's not the one it was

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<v Speaker 6>maybe last ten years.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well, Dennis and Jacob's also, I mean part of

467
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<v Speaker 3>that is because, I mean, the reason that the Big

468
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<v Speaker 3>twelve seems down is because Kansas is down right. It's

469
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<v Speaker 3>kind of like, you know, if UCLA or Arizona wasn't

470
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<v Speaker 3>good in the Pac twelve, people didn't think much of

471
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<v Speaker 3>the packed wee well, they didn't think much of the

472
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<v Speaker 3>Pacweb anyways. But but you know, when you've got to

473
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<v Speaker 3>when you've got a program like Kansas that isn't where

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<v Speaker 3>it normally needs to normally is Yeah, you look at

475
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<v Speaker 3>the league and say, well, you're not as good as

476
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<v Speaker 3>you usually are. It's still a hard league. And you

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned the word parody. It's it's unbelievable, you know. You know,

478
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<v Speaker 3>we're going through our first round of this and we're

479
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<v Speaker 3>seeing how every team that Arizona plays is another really

480
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<v Speaker 3>good team that's hard to beat.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's like even a Baylor that's down this year.

482
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<v Speaker 6>It's hard to see Cincinnati where did they just want?

483
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<v Speaker 6>I can't remember, but no, you're right. I mean, I

484
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<v Speaker 6>think the thing that makes the Big twelve so attractive

485
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<v Speaker 6>in football is the parody because now we know in

486
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<v Speaker 6>any given year anybody through that. Uh. It is not

487
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<v Speaker 6>not so much in uh in basketball. But I think

488
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<v Speaker 6>Kansas got taught, you know, maybe going to the portal

489
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<v Speaker 6>too much to try to try to fill in with players.

490
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<v Speaker 6>And these guys, these guys a J. Store Peak, Mayo's good,

491
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<v Speaker 6>Ryland Griffin from from Alabama are very good. Hunter Dickinson

492
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<v Speaker 6>has taken a big step down right guy who's an

493
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<v Speaker 6>All American for who is for his career. I think

494
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<v Speaker 6>average is seventeen and ten. And so it's that there

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<v Speaker 6>are times when you watch them play, but they really

496
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<v Speaker 6>look like they they're not interested in playing basketball. The

497
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<v Speaker 6>certainly they look like they care about each other. When

498
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<v Speaker 6>they got their butts with it the DYU this week,

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<v Speaker 6>that looks like a total give up job. I mean

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<v Speaker 6>they were they were never to start. So that's some of.

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<v Speaker 2>The look some of the look at it can Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>no question, Denis. I can't remember if we saw you

503
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<v Speaker 2>a Boise last year or not, but I know I

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<v Speaker 2>saw you at the Final four and and and Bill

505
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<v Speaker 2>self at the time, I think they had just beaten

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<v Speaker 2>Stanford or Sandford. I'm sorry and talked about I can't

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<v Speaker 2>wait till next year. In fact, I was looking forward

508
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<v Speaker 2>to next year. Now this year is here and not

509
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<v Speaker 2>doing so well. In the Oklahoma state thing that you

510
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<v Speaker 2>mentioned today, I saw that. I saw that just about

511
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<v Speaker 2>an hour ago. Uh, unbelievable. Do you think that the

512
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<v Speaker 2>that a play that a team from the Big Big

513
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<v Speaker 2>twelve will end up at the Final four even though

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<v Speaker 2>the SEC is very dominant?

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I yeah, look anything can happen. We haven't seen

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<v Speaker 6>the job. We haven't seen the bracket. You don't know

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<v Speaker 6>who's gonna get hot. Yeah, do I think No? I

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<v Speaker 6>don't think one. Well, but that's not to say it

519
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<v Speaker 6>can't happen. I mean I do think there's there's pressure.

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<v Speaker 6>As good as the SEC is, there's pressure on the

521
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<v Speaker 6>SEC to have at least two right the way they've been.

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<v Speaker 6>They just had a one versus too Alabama Auburn for

523
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<v Speaker 6>the first time last Saturday. And Zuri to me is

524
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<v Speaker 6>the top ten team like that mm hm, you know,

525
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<v Speaker 6>for example, and maybe a quality throughout that throughout that league.

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<v Speaker 6>So no, I look, if I had to pick today,

527
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<v Speaker 6>i'd say no, But you know, you never know. That's

528
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<v Speaker 6>what the tournament's about.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you watched Arizona at all?

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<v Speaker 6>I had watched them a bit yet, I you know,

531
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<v Speaker 6>obviously they've rebounded from early on. The schedule schedule was tough.

532
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<v Speaker 6>They so I got a chance to win this league.

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<v Speaker 6>Can't wait to see him in Kansas City. Yeah, in

534
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<v Speaker 6>the with the sixteen team league, they're going to play,

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<v Speaker 6>let's see four games each Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday of that week.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that's how they're doing it. The bottom the

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<v Speaker 3>bottom eight teams play on Tuesday. Then those four winners

539
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<v Speaker 3>play against teams uh seven through I mean nine through twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the one through four only have to play

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<v Speaker 3>starting Thursday.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and this town has never seen anything like that.

543
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<v Speaker 6>I live in Kansas City, Uh, and I've been to

544
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<v Speaker 6>think all the Big twelve tournaments. Uh, they've never seen

545
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<v Speaker 6>anything like this. And I still think it's the best

546
00:26:13.240 --> 00:26:17.799
<v Speaker 6>postseason conference tournament out there. This will be fun. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>if you're just want to go watch ball and significant

548
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<v Speaker 6>ball beginning Tuesday is shot. Yeah. You means there's you know,

549
00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:32.920
<v Speaker 6>talent scattered throughout there. It isn't top TENVY, So I

550
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<v Speaker 6>think that's gonna be a black You know.

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<v Speaker 2>The only people that are disappointed are the two sons

552
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<v Speaker 2>because they wanted to go to Vegas.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah that may that may happen. Uh when this current contract.

554
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you've been busy as well with basketball expansion

555
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<v Speaker 2>and now I saw a couple of days ago you

556
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<v Speaker 2>had the possibility of football expansion. Can you go into

557
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<v Speaker 2>the basketball first?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh? Well that's been reported that I think at least

559
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<v Speaker 6>Greg Zankee and the SEC is really supports the expansion

560
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<v Speaker 6>of the field by as many as eight so from

561
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<v Speaker 6>what is sixty eight to seventy six, and that all

562
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<v Speaker 6>dovetails into what the SEC is, Big ten one and

563
00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:21.839
<v Speaker 6>expanding the field in football. It's look, if you think

564
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<v Speaker 6>those eight teams in the basketball tournament are going to

565
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<v Speaker 6>be Fairmount or mon Mouth or Northern, They're going and

566
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<v Speaker 6>you're praised, it's going to be all Power Conference teams

567
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<v Speaker 6>and it's probably all going to be SEC and Big

568
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<v Speaker 6>Ten school to that. Then the reason you're seeing them

569
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<v Speaker 6>go for those two leagues go for automatic qualifiers beginning

570
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<v Speaker 6>in twenty twenty six is really simple. Tony Pettiti, the

571
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<v Speaker 6>commissioner of the Big Ten, realized he had eighteen teams,

572
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<v Speaker 6>biggest conference ever ever in Division one and needed access

573
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<v Speaker 6>and more spots because he has the biggest league. Number two,

574
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<v Speaker 6>the SEC is seriously considering considering a nine conference game. Well,

575
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<v Speaker 6>that means that half of Greg's thanking teams are going

576
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<v Speaker 6>to endure a loss if you play that ninth conference game,

577
00:28:10.319 --> 00:28:13.480
<v Speaker 6>and so you need a cushy landing spot for those

578
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:15.759
<v Speaker 6>schools that do lose that extra game and still have

579
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<v Speaker 6>an ability to get in the playoffs. And it basically

580
00:28:18.839 --> 00:28:20.519
<v Speaker 6>explains their mentality and trying to do.

581
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<v Speaker 3>But what drives me crazy about all this, Dennis, is

582
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<v Speaker 3>that they're getting those bids anyways. Now get the whole

583
00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:33.559
<v Speaker 3>Alabama didn't get in over SMU last year, but that

584
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<v Speaker 3>that's an aberration that's almost never going to happen. They're

585
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<v Speaker 3>gonna get four bids no matter what. Why do we

586
00:28:41.880 --> 00:28:44.880
<v Speaker 3>have to put it down on paper? Because if you

587
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:47.680
<v Speaker 3>don't deserve the fourth one, you shouldn't get the fourth.

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<v Speaker 6>One because they don't want that discussion to be had.

589
00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.000
<v Speaker 6>And by that, I mean they don't trust the selection

590
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<v Speaker 6>to me, and I don't know if I blame it.

591
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<v Speaker 6>It's all what they did in Florida State. Yeah, I

592
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<v Speaker 6>guess you could have made a case for Alabama. I

593
00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 6>wasn't in Alabama. Guy, I'm glad you got in. But

594
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<v Speaker 6>they don't want the selection committee. They don't trust them.

595
00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:15.720
<v Speaker 6>They don't trust them because it's a rotating membership. Their

596
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:20.000
<v Speaker 6>standards and they're the things they consider important different from

597
00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:22.880
<v Speaker 6>year to year. And with that much of stay the

598
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 6>deal collegetball playoffs. They don't want humans deciding. To the

599
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:32.079
<v Speaker 6>point that I did a story last year on ward manual.

600
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<v Speaker 6>He is the athletic director at Michigan, and he became

601
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<v Speaker 6>the chair in these in these critical times where everybody's

602
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:46.039
<v Speaker 6>looking behind everybody's Max, How can you put the Big

603
00:29:46.079 --> 00:29:51.079
<v Speaker 6>ten commissioner in charge of the playoffs? That you know?

604
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<v Speaker 6>Let's all I ask him, Ward, why do you need this?

605
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<v Speaker 6>You've got two accidentcy investigations going on at that me

606
00:30:00.440 --> 00:30:03.279
<v Speaker 6>trying to hire a basketball coach, and he wanted to

607
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<v Speaker 6>be chair of the committee. So I thought that was

608
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<v Speaker 6>kind of odd that they would go to those links

609
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<v Speaker 6>to put the Big ten commissioner and charge of the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 6>So that I think that only heightens the the anxiety

611
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<v Speaker 6>about letting the humans decide we.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't have you very long. So let me ask you,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you plan on coming out here? We saw

614
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<v Speaker 2>you a few times under Jed. I think in springball,

615
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<v Speaker 2>do you think you're gonna come out to see what

616
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<v Speaker 2>Brennan's up to?

617
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<v Speaker 13>One?

618
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<v Speaker 2>Do you think he'll write that ship? Two and three? Uh,

619
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<v Speaker 2>some people are not even going to have the spring

620
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<v Speaker 2>ball because they want to hide their guys.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, TVD we haven't gotten that fall yet. Obviously, there

622
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<v Speaker 6>was some first year I don't know when you're what

623
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<v Speaker 6>you're gonna call it hitters and consistencies, the front kind

624
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<v Speaker 6>of riving things. Yeah, they don't want they don't want

625
00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:52.640
<v Speaker 6>spring press. This is a bigger issue. College football tended

626
00:30:52.680 --> 00:30:57.960
<v Speaker 6>towards an NFL model anyway, and her current coach or

627
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:01.079
<v Speaker 6>coach say, we just want to do lowt you know,

628
00:31:01.640 --> 00:31:06.440
<v Speaker 6>off season uh, training activities where you're not no one's

629
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<v Speaker 6>getting injured. There's I'm going to write something soon about

630
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:16.799
<v Speaker 6>the injury rate. Uh that is now so far the

631
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<v Speaker 6>injury rate on kickoffs, which had changed a couple of

632
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<v Speaker 6>years ago, it's so far down. It's almost lower than

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<v Speaker 6>the regular place in scrimmage, so white even risk it

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<v Speaker 6>the average NFL team, it's less than one time per week.

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<v Speaker 6>Because of the obvious you're paying these guys millions of dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>Why put your in their training professionals at a point?

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<v Speaker 6>Why put their health at risk? And I think college

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<v Speaker 6>coaches are seeing that too. Why have you know? Why

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<v Speaker 6>put you You've got the the Nebraska thing with rules players.

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<v Speaker 6>I got news for Matt rule. If they want one

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<v Speaker 6>of your players, they're going.

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<v Speaker 3>To know its.

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<v Speaker 6>Controlled spring game. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like me trying to add a girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 6>Trying to have a keep I know, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So I mean it's it's changing everything and and

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<v Speaker 3>it you know, and I'm gonna I keep having this

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<v Speaker 3>conversation with you, like get used to this, right, It's

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's different, uh, and but it can still be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we were just talking about the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the Big Twelve season. You know, as hard as these

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<v Speaker 3>games are, you know, for teams like Arizona, they're certainly

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<v Speaker 3>more interesting and they're more fun. And yet you still

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<v Speaker 3>got people down here at least, you know, thinking that

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<v Speaker 3>they should be running through the Big Twelve like they

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<v Speaker 3>used to run through the Pac twelve. And it's just

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<v Speaker 3>not not that way anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the curse and the attracting that anybody can win

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<v Speaker 6>the Big Twelve, and by extension, you'd be in the

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<v Speaker 6>playoffs if you did. I think the you know, out

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<v Speaker 6>of this automatic qualifier playing. I think the Big Twelve

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<v Speaker 6>is going to get too automatic every year. I think

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<v Speaker 6>they love that they won't they got publicly yet because

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<v Speaker 6>they hadn't vetted all.

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<v Speaker 3>The times, right.

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<v Speaker 6>I think the President would love having an age that

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<v Speaker 6>love had two guard keep spots with the SEC and

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<v Speaker 6>Big ten taking over. No, but I you know, I

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<v Speaker 6>think that's the way it's going to go. And look,

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<v Speaker 6>I love I love the fact that it's like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I went to that Kansas Colorado game in November. Was

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<v Speaker 6>mid November. Yeah, at that point both of those schools,

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<v Speaker 6>Kansas is trying to get to a bold Colorado was

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<v Speaker 6>still in the running to get to win the Big

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<v Speaker 6>twelve play a championship game and by extension, get to

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<v Speaker 6>the playoffs. That was a juicy storyline at that point

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<v Speaker 6>where little old Kansas they stumbled early that they were

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<v Speaker 6>they're trying to get to a bowl game. Colorado is

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<v Speaker 6>proof of concept. Now Kansas won that day, but I

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<v Speaker 6>think by then Coach Prime had already proved his proof

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<v Speaker 6>of concept, that he had turned it around. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I give him im all kinds of props now among

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<v Speaker 6>those that really dunk him early on. He has done

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<v Speaker 6>what he was supposed to do with.

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<v Speaker 2>Right Dennis real quick. Because I kind of joked about

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<v Speaker 2>it earlier. Fans are used to going to Vegas and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of in making it Tucson South. What are Tucson North?

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<v Speaker 4>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>But no one really talks about the Kansas City Tournament

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<v Speaker 2>and you kind of alluded to it that it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be fantastic basketball for a few days. What can people

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<v Speaker 2>expect if they do go to that tournament, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be crazy.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh T Mobile Uh not tem Mobile Arena in Las Vegas,

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<v Speaker 6>but T Mobile Center in Kansas City is a great venue.

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<v Speaker 6>It's across the street from an entertainment district called Power

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<v Speaker 6>and Light Bars restaurants. You just walk across the street

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<v Speaker 6>to between games after games the four games. If you're

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<v Speaker 6>of a mind and it's typically you know, the most

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<v Speaker 6>fans from Kansas State, Kansas and Iowa stay, It's gonna

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<v Speaker 6>be interesting how those Kansas fans turn out for a

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<v Speaker 6>very disappoint the team. I guarantee you one thing, I

704
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<v Speaker 6>always stay, will out, buy out, drink outscream anybody that

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<v Speaker 6>week in time. They are great fans. They just it's

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<v Speaker 6>a tradition. They come down to my Iowa or wherever

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<v Speaker 6>and build a place basically as long as I always stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Last right, Well, they were down here and they came

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<v Speaker 2>and droves, I mean the part of the biggest crowd

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever seen from an opposing team, and they gave

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<v Speaker 2>everything until that sixty five footery killer. Yep, yeah yeah, thanks, yeah, yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, Thank you Dennis as always appreciate you. We

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<v Speaker 2>see you soon.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you guys going to be here?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I gotta buy a jacket.

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<v Speaker 3>I work for a living.

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<v Speaker 6>Had seven below if it was last.

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<v Speaker 2>That scares me? Thanks Ben, Yeah, take care they did

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<v Speaker 2>a stime from CBS Sports. Yeah, I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>people have to buy jackets and globes.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, well again, I remember when when Arizona got in

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<v Speaker 3>the league, was announce Arizona's going to be in the league,

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<v Speaker 3>and of course Arizona fans went on and saying move

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<v Speaker 3>the tournament to Vegas, and Big Paul fans were going

725
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<v Speaker 3>on there and saying, you guys have no idea how

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<v Speaker 3>good this tournament in Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 2>And he says, hey, this is already, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell us how to get out of here. Oh, it's

729
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<v Speaker 3>great in Vegas. At Kansas City is saying, hold my beer.

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<v Speaker 2>My beers, let's go take a break. If you're an

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona man's basketball fan, you know it's been successful for

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<v Speaker 2>nearly forty years. Now take a look back at the

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<v Speaker 1>on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on

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<v Speaker 2>Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in today with

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<v Speaker 2>me is Jay Gonzalez. Got Kobe at the head of

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<v Speaker 2>the machine here out of the snake. Good to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to Dennis.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, these guys are Here's what I like

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<v Speaker 3>is that you talk to these guys and you talk

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<v Speaker 3>to them about Arizona and they're not clueless, right right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they know their stuff and they have good

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<v Speaker 3>opinions and they have knowledge, and it's great to you know, one,

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<v Speaker 3>it's great to see that Arizona's on the radar right

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<v Speaker 3>as a fan, but also that you know, they bring

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<v Speaker 3>some insight that maybe we don't bring because they they're

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<v Speaker 3>all over the country and seeing stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's not we have a bunt ten and twelve minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's get through. Maybe if we can hear it the

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy Lloyd thing, maybe the first five maybe he said

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<v Speaker 2>something interested interesting, and then we can talk about it.

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<v Speaker 19>All right, guys, let's knock this out. Got stuff to do.

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<v Speaker 3>Two sort of days off was nice, It was great,

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<v Speaker 3>great Tucson.

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<v Speaker 19>Tucson did well, Tucson provided some good weather, and uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 19>it was. It was good to kind of recharge a

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<v Speaker 19>little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Said after that the Bailor year that it was about

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<v Speaker 1>the response and the energy for that game, and you

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<v Speaker 1>seemed pleased with it.

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<v Speaker 3>But how do you then build off that now that

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<v Speaker 3>you have this extended break do it again? I mean

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<v Speaker 3>it's not complicated.

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<v Speaker 19>I mean, you you know this time of year, you

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<v Speaker 19>know every game is going to be you know, you know, competitive,

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<v Speaker 19>and and if you think you're going to show up

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<v Speaker 19>and and just go through the motions and be successful,

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<v Speaker 19>you know you're you're you're delusional. So yeah, we just

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<v Speaker 19>need to we need to make sure every time we

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<v Speaker 19>take the court that you know, you know, we we

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<v Speaker 19>were serving the game the way it should be served

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<v Speaker 19>and and that's with effort, energy, intelligence, you know all

843
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<v Speaker 19>that stuff. So you know, I mean just to me

844
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:12.760
<v Speaker 19>that that those are the things that those are the

845
00:42:12.920 --> 00:42:14.480
<v Speaker 19>ingredients that I'm looking for right now.

846
00:42:14.920 --> 00:42:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously, I or Devon is a very highly

847
00:42:17.480 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 1>thought out I thought, after prospect, what did you guys

848
00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:22.280
<v Speaker 1>see from him? What was the plan?

849
00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:24.000
<v Speaker 17>And try to defense the first time around?

850
00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.800
<v Speaker 19>And I mean, he's, you know, he's he's he's a

851
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 19>very talented, you know, young player.

852
00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:30.960
<v Speaker 3>Obviously he's got a great future ahead of him.

853
00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:33.360
<v Speaker 19>And you know he's he's you know, getting a great

854
00:42:33.360 --> 00:42:35.320
<v Speaker 19>opportunity there to play with the ball in his hands

855
00:42:35.360 --> 00:42:37.440
<v Speaker 19>a lot, and you know, and and and you know

856
00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:40.639
<v Speaker 19>he's having success. So you know, we know he presents

857
00:42:40.679 --> 00:42:43.519
<v Speaker 19>a lot of challenges, you know, and but you know,

858
00:42:43.679 --> 00:42:45.679
<v Speaker 19>but but those are challenges I think we're up for.

859
00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:49.760
<v Speaker 13>You had your team's country before, but are things a

860
00:42:49.800 --> 00:42:51.679
<v Speaker 13>little easier when you see be like even when they

861
00:42:51.760 --> 00:42:53.880
<v Speaker 13>did to Kansas and you can kind of point to I.

862
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:55.639
<v Speaker 19>Mean, I mean, you know, we haven't really even talked

863
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:57.559
<v Speaker 19>about that yet. I mean, you know, I mean, I

864
00:42:57.599 --> 00:42:59.639
<v Speaker 19>hope our guys are paying attention. But you know, I

865
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:01.440
<v Speaker 19>mean that game at b YU, I mean it's a

866
00:43:01.440 --> 00:43:02.239
<v Speaker 19>little misleading.

867
00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:02.440
<v Speaker 7>You know.

868
00:43:02.480 --> 00:43:04.840
<v Speaker 19>We we we kind of It's one of those games

869
00:43:05.079 --> 00:43:08.239
<v Speaker 19>is very even throughout, you know, like I don't know,

870
00:43:08.320 --> 00:43:09.280
<v Speaker 19>eight minutes to go or something.

871
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:10.239
<v Speaker 3>We kind of made a run at the.

872
00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.880
<v Speaker 19>Right time, and you know, and and you know, they

873
00:43:13.280 --> 00:43:15.639
<v Speaker 19>they tried to come back and missed some of the shots,

874
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:18.000
<v Speaker 19>and you know we were able to kind of you know,

875
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:20.679
<v Speaker 19>win at the end comfortably. But but you know, it

876
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 19>wasn't like it was from the tip. It was domination.

877
00:43:23.599 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 19>So we know it's gonna be an evenly matched game.

878
00:43:26.639 --> 00:43:27.480
<v Speaker 3>And and and I.

879
00:43:27.440 --> 00:43:29.480
<v Speaker 19>Also know, you know, I've played East BYU a lot.

880
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:32.360
<v Speaker 19>I know I know that there's some character in that program,

881
00:43:32.360 --> 00:43:34.639
<v Speaker 19>and there's gonna be a response, and you know they're

882
00:43:34.679 --> 00:43:37.239
<v Speaker 19>gonna come down here, you know, with the mindset of

883
00:43:37.239 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 19>getting to win. And so we're gonna have to approach

884
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:43.000
<v Speaker 19>it the same way when you played three.

885
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Straight home games against ranked teams Iowa State, Houston, Texas Tech, and.

886
00:43:46.840 --> 00:43:49.760
<v Speaker 17>Now you've got an unranked b YU team coming in here.

887
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>You have to, you know, tell the players to guard

888
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 1>against the letdown.

889
00:43:54.599 --> 00:43:55.400
<v Speaker 17>Of the GAU.

890
00:43:57.079 --> 00:43:58.559
<v Speaker 3>No that easy.

891
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:01.039
<v Speaker 6>Did you make.

892
00:44:01.079 --> 00:44:02.519
<v Speaker 2>The EYU Kansas game?

893
00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 4>It seems like nationally the perspective is Kansas is slipping,

894
00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:06.239
<v Speaker 4>et cetera.

895
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:08.000
<v Speaker 7>But you just went up to be white.

896
00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 19>I mean, listen, I mean by you played great, Kansas, didn't,

897
00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:15.159
<v Speaker 19>I mean when it was impressive. You know, there's you know,

898
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:17.840
<v Speaker 19>no no reason for me to draw the opinions on

899
00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:19.480
<v Speaker 19>Kansas because we you know, we don't play them for

900
00:44:19.519 --> 00:44:22.559
<v Speaker 19>a few weeks. But but by you look great. You know,

901
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:25.159
<v Speaker 19>they had their way with them every which way, and

902
00:44:25.280 --> 00:44:28.000
<v Speaker 19>so obviously they're gonna be feeling really good about themselves,

903
00:44:28.000 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 19>you know, coming down here.

904
00:44:30.320 --> 00:44:32.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was just kind of an early point of it.

905
00:44:32.599 --> 00:44:34.639
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you, because I haven't asked anybody

906
00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:38.920
<v Speaker 2>this question, because I have an answer to my own question. Uh,

907
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:41.920
<v Speaker 2>who do you think the X factor is with this team?

908
00:44:42.559 --> 00:44:44.519
<v Speaker 2>You got a month left, you want to try to

909
00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.239
<v Speaker 2>go as far as you can, do as well as

910
00:44:46.239 --> 00:44:48.960
<v Speaker 2>you can. What would you say is the X factor?

911
00:44:49.119 --> 00:44:52.199
<v Speaker 3>I still think it's Caleb and And the reason being

912
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:54.559
<v Speaker 3>is that you know.

913
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, you know okay. I mean, would you if

914
00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:01.679
<v Speaker 2>you had a hundred bucks, would you bet on? Would

915
00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:05.360
<v Speaker 2>you bet on him trending in a good way or

916
00:45:05.400 --> 00:45:06.039
<v Speaker 2>in a bad way.

917
00:45:07.599 --> 00:45:09.960
<v Speaker 3>If I had to bet it, if you said you

918
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:12.719
<v Speaker 3>have to bet this is okay. If you said I

919
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:16.039
<v Speaker 3>have to bet this, I'd say he's gonna he'll finish strong.

920
00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:17.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So and then he's so.

921
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:19.440
<v Speaker 3>The reason I say he's the X factor is because

922
00:45:19.599 --> 00:45:23.159
<v Speaker 3>you know that if he goes off, if he has

923
00:45:23.199 --> 00:45:26.079
<v Speaker 3>a great game, scores a bunch of points. Is in

924
00:45:26.159 --> 00:45:33.840
<v Speaker 3>the mix offensively, turnover I mean I turnover, assists, some steals,

925
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:38.880
<v Speaker 3>playing some defense. They're gonna win, yes, if he and

926
00:45:38.920 --> 00:45:42.599
<v Speaker 3>if he doesn't, they might lose. There's a good chance

927
00:45:42.599 --> 00:45:45.960
<v Speaker 3>they're gonna lose. So the one guy to me that

928
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:49.000
<v Speaker 3>they need down the streets because you're gonna get what

929
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.039
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get from kJ lewis he is who he is. Okay,

930
00:45:52.079 --> 00:45:55.039
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get what you're gonna get from Jayden Bradley. Now,

931
00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:57.840
<v Speaker 3>Henry maybe is a kind of a close runner up

932
00:45:57.840 --> 00:45:59.880
<v Speaker 3>to that, because if he keeps doing what he's doing,

933
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:01.960
<v Speaker 3>they're a whole lot better. But I think the one

934
00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:06.000
<v Speaker 3>guy they have to have as we go, as they

935
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.760
<v Speaker 3>go into the tournament. Okay, not so much to finish

936
00:46:08.800 --> 00:46:10.599
<v Speaker 3>out this regular seat because they're gonna you know, if

937
00:46:10.599 --> 00:46:13.559
<v Speaker 3>they're throw top one, two or three seed in the

938
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:15.400
<v Speaker 3>in the Big twelve, they've got a good seed, they'll

939
00:46:15.400 --> 00:46:18.119
<v Speaker 3>be fine. But to make a run in the n

940
00:46:18.159 --> 00:46:20.159
<v Speaker 3>C Double A tournament, they're gonna need Caleb Love.

941
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:22.840
<v Speaker 2>I have no I've said that. I've said that, there's

942
00:46:22.840 --> 00:46:25.000
<v Speaker 2>no question that in order to go deep into the

943
00:46:25.039 --> 00:46:27.960
<v Speaker 2>tournament that Caleb has to have. He has to have

944
00:46:27.960 --> 00:46:28.559
<v Speaker 2>some matches.

945
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:30.360
<v Speaker 3>Tournament.

946
00:46:30.639 --> 00:46:32.239
<v Speaker 2>Hear me out, and I'm not gonna go along with this,

947
00:46:32.639 --> 00:46:36.760
<v Speaker 2>but they would not have won without without Dela Orso.

948
00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Dorso has kind of been been not he's been a

949
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:43.119
<v Speaker 2>C player, he's been a C player C plus.

950
00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:46.079
<v Speaker 3>But they would not have won Monday last Okay, correct.

951
00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:48.840
<v Speaker 2>So that's what he that's what he offers to this team.

952
00:46:48.880 --> 00:46:52.440
<v Speaker 2>If he scores eleven points, does it efficiently? Can maybe defend,

953
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:54.719
<v Speaker 2>but you're not gonna get defense for him. He's gonna

954
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:55.639
<v Speaker 2>spot up and shoot.

955
00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:56.159
<v Speaker 6>Uh.

956
00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:58.480
<v Speaker 2>They would not have won Monday. And I know this

957
00:46:58.559 --> 00:47:01.199
<v Speaker 2>is a reach for me because it's just because your

958
00:47:01.280 --> 00:47:04.679
<v Speaker 2>Caleb thing is is pretty accurate because without him going,

959
00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.039
<v Speaker 2>they're not going to go deep, right. They need him

960
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:09.280
<v Speaker 2>to catch fire right, But Delorso is one of those

961
00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:12.320
<v Speaker 2>dudes that if you can, if he can get twelve

962
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.440
<v Speaker 2>and you hit four the or whatever from the three

963
00:47:15.480 --> 00:47:19.159
<v Speaker 2>point line to free up from perimeter. He just hasn't

964
00:47:19.239 --> 00:47:21.360
<v Speaker 2>done that. He's done it maybe a time or two,

965
00:47:22.320 --> 00:47:25.280
<v Speaker 2>but they need him to do that, and Tommy has

966
00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:28.000
<v Speaker 2>not talked about him a lot until the last couple

967
00:47:28.000 --> 00:47:30.480
<v Speaker 2>of weeks where he says he needs to start showing up.

968
00:47:30.559 --> 00:47:32.159
<v Speaker 3>The only thing I'll say to that is that they've

969
00:47:32.159 --> 00:47:34.320
<v Speaker 3>gotten this far essentially without.

970
00:47:34.119 --> 00:47:35.679
<v Speaker 2>Him, no question, no question.

971
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:40.280
<v Speaker 3>So I think to me, Delorso is kind of like,

972
00:47:40.679 --> 00:47:43.000
<v Speaker 3>you know, icing on the cake. If they if they

973
00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:45.639
<v Speaker 3>get him too, well, then now they're really really hard

974
00:47:45.679 --> 00:47:48.679
<v Speaker 3>to beat. I don't know if they have to have

975
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:52.360
<v Speaker 3>del Orso, but if they do, it's great. I think

976
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:53.679
<v Speaker 3>they have to have Caleb.

977
00:47:53.800 --> 00:47:57.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with that. I was just thinking because

978
00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.880
<v Speaker 2>and I've said this, I'm not disapperiod No. No, if

979
00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:03.360
<v Speaker 2>you make a good point, here's here's the issue. And

980
00:48:03.360 --> 00:48:05.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've talked to you about it, because

981
00:48:05.760 --> 00:48:07.760
<v Speaker 2>I've talked with the other people. They have seven dudes,

982
00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:11.079
<v Speaker 2>eight dudes. Maybe they haven't. They don't get much from

983
00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>dill or So consistently. They don't get much from Townsend consistently. Right,

984
00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:17.119
<v Speaker 2>So that gets to six people, and then you need

985
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 2>those six to do really, really well. And in my

986
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:21.679
<v Speaker 2>mind I've said this, Platters were playing with with the

987
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:24.719
<v Speaker 2>one hand tied behind their back because two dudes, a

988
00:48:24.800 --> 00:48:28.000
<v Speaker 2>starter and a key reserve. Two starters are not playing.

989
00:48:28.199 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 2>But Steve, every team is like that.

990
00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:31.400
<v Speaker 6>The teams.

991
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 3>Teams for the most part, don't go when you're talking

992
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:38.440
<v Speaker 3>about really really good players, Okay, go about six deep.

993
00:48:38.519 --> 00:48:41.559
<v Speaker 3>There's seven, eight, nine guys are guys that have to

994
00:48:41.559 --> 00:48:44.559
<v Speaker 3>come in fill some gaps for short periods of time,

995
00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.719
<v Speaker 3>try not to do anything stupid. And that's and Arizona's

996
00:48:47.760 --> 00:48:50.000
<v Speaker 3>in the same position that so many other teams. You know,

997
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:52.719
<v Speaker 3>I saw like I saw Houston, all right, so these

998
00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:56.000
<v Speaker 3>guys are really good, but there was you know, not

999
00:48:56.199 --> 00:48:59.159
<v Speaker 3>every guy that stepped on the court for Houston was

1000
00:48:59.159 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 3>a great player.

1001
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:02.920
<v Speaker 2>No, but Steven Houston. But they do what they need

1002
00:49:02.960 --> 00:49:05.360
<v Speaker 2>to do. But they they are that sixty teams. They're

1003
00:49:05.400 --> 00:49:06.440
<v Speaker 2>a nasty good team.

1004
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:09.960
<v Speaker 3>But that's the thing, you know, if if Delorso, you know,

1005
00:49:09.960 --> 00:49:13.440
<v Speaker 3>they tell them out of Delorso, Townsend and and and

1006
00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:16.800
<v Speaker 3>and Henry Vassar, and those guys are playing really well

1007
00:49:16.880 --> 00:49:21.039
<v Speaker 3>and contributing and and and putting putting in some really

1008
00:49:21.079 --> 00:49:25.599
<v Speaker 3>good minutes, Arizona becomes very hard to beat. But most

1009
00:49:25.639 --> 00:49:27.679
<v Speaker 3>of the teams are like that with their six, seven,

1010
00:49:27.800 --> 00:49:31.280
<v Speaker 3>eight or even nine guys, you know, and and that's

1011
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:34.079
<v Speaker 3>where a team like Kansas I saw I saw some

1012
00:49:34.119 --> 00:49:36.440
<v Speaker 3>of that b YU game, and I thought, what happened

1013
00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:37.039
<v Speaker 3>to their talent?

1014
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:38.360
<v Speaker 6>Right?

1015
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:40.559
<v Speaker 3>What happened to their talent? I said? Are there only

1016
00:49:40.599 --> 00:49:42.880
<v Speaker 3>three guys that I saw that that I thought were

1017
00:49:43.079 --> 00:49:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Kansas worthy? You know? B Yu b Yu look like

1018
00:49:48.519 --> 00:49:52.039
<v Speaker 3>Yukon against them and Yukon last year against them. I

1019
00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:54.159
<v Speaker 3>mean they just as as Tommy said, they just beat

1020
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:55.280
<v Speaker 3>them every which way.

1021
00:49:55.239 --> 00:49:58.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens.

1022
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:00.920
<v Speaker 2>I think those two do just have to combine for

1023
00:50:01.000 --> 00:50:04.360
<v Speaker 2>like twenty twenty and I don't know, eight rebounds and

1024
00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:05.480
<v Speaker 2>just do better.

1025
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:09.000
<v Speaker 3>What I what I like, Steve, is that it looks

1026
00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:13.159
<v Speaker 3>like Arizona has the pieces. Now the question is from

1027
00:50:13.199 --> 00:50:16.840
<v Speaker 3>game to game to game, do those pieces come together

1028
00:50:17.239 --> 00:50:20.639
<v Speaker 3>fit well and and build a win. That's the thing.

1029
00:50:21.119 --> 00:50:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Let's take it because you're gonna cop a couple months. Hello,

1030
00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:24.639
<v Speaker 2>you're on the air nine the ball? Who's this.

1031
00:50:26.079 --> 00:50:28.480
<v Speaker 6>Twenty and I don't know eighty bounds?

1032
00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Who's Hey?

1033
00:50:31.800 --> 00:50:33.440
<v Speaker 6>This is Don. How are you doing, Steve?

1034
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:34.000
<v Speaker 13>Hi?

1035
00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:34.320
<v Speaker 20>Jake?

1036
00:50:34.800 --> 00:50:36.360
<v Speaker 3>What's up Don? How's it going?

1037
00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 6>Man?

1038
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:38.440
<v Speaker 7>It's going good.

1039
00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:40.400
<v Speaker 8>I missed you last week. I was out of town

1040
00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:42.320
<v Speaker 8>so on Friday, so I wasn't.

1041
00:50:42.119 --> 00:50:45.199
<v Speaker 20>Able to call in last week because Steven had invited

1042
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:45.800
<v Speaker 20>me to do so.

1043
00:50:47.639 --> 00:50:48.639
<v Speaker 3>But I appreciate you.

1044
00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:53.400
<v Speaker 20>I think that people you've been hanging out with Jay.

1045
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.719
<v Speaker 20>It gets back to what I what I told Steve

1046
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.400
<v Speaker 20>yesterday is Arizona fans.

1047
00:51:01.920 --> 00:51:05.000
<v Speaker 8>Is used to cruising through the through the season.

1048
00:51:05.480 --> 00:51:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Seventeen and one.

1049
00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:10.880
<v Speaker 8>Sixteen and two's, fifteen and threes. That's what we've we've

1050
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:13.239
<v Speaker 8>you know, we've we grew up with. That's what Luke

1051
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:14.320
<v Speaker 8>taught us.

1052
00:51:15.039 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 2>And now we don't know.

1053
00:51:17.719 --> 00:51:20.280
<v Speaker 20>What to make of this being in a fight every

1054
00:51:20.360 --> 00:51:24.159
<v Speaker 20>day night, right, you know, So it's hard.

1055
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<v Speaker 2>To It's hard.

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<v Speaker 7>You know.

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<v Speaker 8>It's like.

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<v Speaker 20>It's like if the basketball team was a football team,

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<v Speaker 20>they were they would look like they've been playing in

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<v Speaker 20>the mud all day. At the end of games, win

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<v Speaker 20>or lose, it looked like a muddy game, whereas you know,

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<v Speaker 20>basketball wise.

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<v Speaker 2>We're used to being clean at the end.

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<v Speaker 8>You know it, you know, we don't. We don't need

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<v Speaker 8>first aid.

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<v Speaker 20>We just need a towel, dry off, and you know,

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<v Speaker 20>go out and have dinner after the game. But now

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<v Speaker 20>with the way the Big Twelve is, you know, you're

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<v Speaker 20>in a fight every night, every single night, one through

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<v Speaker 20>one through sixteen. And then Steve, Steve brings this guy.

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<v Speaker 20>Steve brings this guy in and he pooh poohs the

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<v Speaker 20>whole league. And Arizona didn't bring nothing to the Big twelve.

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<v Speaker 20>And nobody from the Big twelve is gonna gonna make

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<v Speaker 20>the make the Final four. And then he backtracked and

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<v Speaker 20>he goes, well, we haven't seen the brackets yet or

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<v Speaker 20>nothing like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, Dennis is kind of credible. Yeah, that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of and and I well, don if you were to

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<v Speaker 2>pick a team or two who's going to make it

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<v Speaker 2>to the Final four, I had one for sure.

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<v Speaker 20>I would probably say that Iowa State probably has the

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<v Speaker 20>best chance to make a Final four. But at the

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<v Speaker 20>end of the day, I mean, you you talked about

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<v Speaker 20>a couple of a couple of years ago when Arizona

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<v Speaker 20>had to get through went got got through TCU, and

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<v Speaker 20>then had Houston after that. I mean, with with the

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<v Speaker 20>numbers that we have, and and almost to the X

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<v Speaker 20>factor discussion, I agree with you, Steve. If Delorso can

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<v Speaker 20>start producing a little bit more that puts Arizona, that

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<v Speaker 20>would put Arizona over the top, just the same as

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<v Speaker 20>if Caleb were to put six games together.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but which one is more?

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<v Speaker 3>But which one is more likely? Who knows?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, who knows. No, that's a good point. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>good point, because no, you're right, No, you just hope

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<v Speaker 2>that it happens right, Well, I hope that happens consistently. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Donna go, we gotta go. We get all right, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for the coming. Okay, guys, we're gonna take this

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