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Speaker 2: this guy, Jay Ga Zalis, welcome back.
Speaker 3: Good to be here.
Speaker 2: We got our guy Kobe and usual unusual Friday, right.
Speaker 4: Yep, Nice see you guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good, good good. What's going on? Jay? We we're
Speaker 2: over the super Bowl no longer at the casino on
Speaker 2: a Friday. This bums.
Speaker 3: I had a good football season, Steve, both from a
Speaker 3: you know, our our our. I know I lost to you,
Speaker 3: but I had a good year but also did some
Speaker 3: did some nice stuff online.
Speaker 2: The Tahiti chrip is on as well.
Speaker 3: No, I've got money to play with for the for
Speaker 3: baseball now and for March Madness as well.
Speaker 5: So okay, but you know it was a fun football season.
Speaker 5: I hate to ask you how well, because just well
Speaker 5: enough that I'm not dipping into the bank account.
Speaker 2: Good good, good, Well, welcome to Friday. A big game tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I tried to get the beat why you beat writer,
Speaker 2: But those people in Utah, you don't know what the
Speaker 2: hell's going. I don't know what this trail all day?
Speaker 2: Last time I did too. Uh So, you know, what
Speaker 2: do you think about tomorrow? I will hope to get
Speaker 2: some calls. We're gonna talk to Dennis Dodd here at
Speaker 2: three seventeen to get the scope of the nation and
Speaker 2: the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: Well, I think I think Arizona's really hard to beat
Speaker 3: at home, and and so i'd like to think, you know,
Speaker 3: probably a you know, maybe seven or eight point win
Speaker 3: or something like that. You know something, again, I think
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a hard game, as they all are,
Speaker 3: as all the Big twelve games are. And I've got
Speaker 3: a little bit of rant about that. I was ranting
Speaker 3: earlier this week.
Speaker 2: Okay about what twelve.
Speaker 3: Just about fans understanding how hard it is to win.
Speaker 2: Without question, you know, they didn't understand it in the
Speaker 2: Pac twelve and it wasn't.
Speaker 3: That right and the fans not getting it, and then
Speaker 3: I'll you know, I'll get to that and you know later.
Speaker 3: But you know, b YUS, you know, they're they're a
Speaker 3: good team, they're playing well. You know, I think we
Speaker 3: were surprised that they won Arizona one at b YU. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was right, And so to think that, you know,
Speaker 3: that was a hard game to win. You know, the
Speaker 3: way they they lighted up from three. You know, if
Speaker 3: they're hot, they're going to be hard to be sure, No,
Speaker 3: no question.
Speaker 2: In fact, at that time when they won that game
Speaker 2: at b YU, I said that might have been the
Speaker 2: best win of the season at that time. And then
Speaker 2: they've really kind of even expanded on that, right, Iowa
Speaker 2: State and just the recent one on the Baylor and
Speaker 2: the Houston loss, wasn't that bad of a loss to me?
Speaker 3: And and then again that that going back to why
Speaker 3: I was ranting at people, you know earlier in this week. Well,
Speaker 3: Monday on Tuesday, Okay, they beat Baylor Monday night. And
Speaker 3: I get it, it was late some people maybe and sit
Speaker 3: up and watch the whole thing. But they win at
Speaker 3: Baylor after losing two tough games, including a really good
Speaker 3: game to a really really good Houston team. I get it.
Speaker 3: It was at home, and they get they had a lead,
Speaker 3: you know, late in the second half, and I get
Speaker 3: that Houston, you know, ran them down. But Houston's really
Speaker 3: damn good. Yeah, one of the better teams that a
Speaker 3: National championship quality team, right, and then they then they
Speaker 3: beat Baylor, and then Monday on Tuesday, all I hear
Speaker 3: is how bad Arizona looks.
Speaker 2: Like just fans you're following Twitter, and both people.
Speaker 3: That I know, people that I see these were, you know,
Speaker 3: and people that you would be surprised what would be saying.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, you know, it was a did you
Speaker 3: watch the game?
Speaker 6: Say?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did? Well, you know Caleb this, and they
Speaker 3: turned the ball over too much and they you know,
Speaker 3: Henry can't hang on to the ball and all these things.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, did you watch the end of the game, Well, yeah,
Speaker 3: so you know they won, you.
Speaker 2: Know, they one and they didn't they did what they
Speaker 2: couldn't do against Houston.
Speaker 3: And you watched it on TV because it was at Baylor.
Speaker 3: It wasn't here in Tucson, so you know they won.
Speaker 3: And yet what are you bitching about, Well, they don't
Speaker 3: do this and they don't do that, and they're they're
Speaker 3: vulnerable here, and they're vulnerable there. I said, wait a minute, stop,
Speaker 3: you also know they're twelve and three in the Big twelve, right,
Speaker 3: you know that too? And they're in second place, you know,
Speaker 3: behind a team that could win the national championship. This person, yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm having this conversation with live with people, not just
Speaker 3: and not.
Speaker 2: Just one person, like that group of yours. It is,
Speaker 2: isn't it. You look at me like which group? The
Speaker 2: group of some of them right?
Speaker 3: Who you know? Who they are?
Speaker 2: What are they? What are they thinking?
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 3: Adam and I my son and my son and are
Speaker 3: going to guys because they're complaining about Caleb. They're complaining
Speaker 3: that we turned the ball over too much. They said,
Speaker 3: we're not tough and gritty?
Speaker 2: What And I was just I was gonna say this
Speaker 2: to you after this conversation or before this conversation, what
Speaker 2: has been the most oppressive thing about their toughness? They're tough?
Speaker 3: I said, wait a minute, let's go back to when
Speaker 3: let's go back to when Arizona got in the Big twelve,
Speaker 3: and what did we say?
Speaker 2: What did you think about it?
Speaker 3: What did you think they're gonna have to get a
Speaker 3: lot tougher if they're gonna be good in the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: They're twelve and three in the Big twelve. So what's
Speaker 3: the conclusion you can draw from that that they're tougher?
Speaker 3: And I'm like, how can you sit there and say
Speaker 3: they're not tough?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 2: What team are they watching?
Speaker 3: What do you want?
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the here's the demise, Jay, is that in
Speaker 2: a month or so, if they happen to lose in
Speaker 2: the thirty two game or the sixteen game or whatever game,
Speaker 2: they're gonna say I told you, Jay, they just turn
Speaker 2: the ball too much, they're not tough enough. Bla blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. Eventually, Okay, yes, but not now.
Speaker 3: I'm okay, I'm confident. I'm confident enough to say this.
Speaker 3: If Arizona loses, you know, earlier than we think they
Speaker 3: should the tournament, in the tournament, okay, it's not going
Speaker 3: to be because they weren't tough enough. It's going to
Speaker 3: be because maybe they had a bad shooting night, somebody
Speaker 3: had a really bad game, a team matched up with
Speaker 3: them in a way that that you know, it was
Speaker 3: just a bad matchup for them. It's not going to
Speaker 3: be because they weren't tough enough. Like when we think
Speaker 3: back to you know that that year that they had
Speaker 3: to scrap to beat TCU and then Houston beat him
Speaker 3: in the next round, and they will clearly like you
Speaker 3: guys weren't tough. It was glaring. Not anymore.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is not the team that we
Speaker 2: saw in December. They found some magic of one getting
Speaker 2: tougher right and finding ways to to win. Henry, I think,
Speaker 2: in fact, who would you say the m v P
Speaker 2: of the team is right now?
Speaker 3: Since over the last several weeks, Henry vas too without
Speaker 3: without him, I don't know where they are. But the
Speaker 3: point being that you've got fans who are watching this
Speaker 3: team play and and they have issues with how they're playing.
Speaker 3: Ye I mean, shouldn't shouldn't shouldn't them? Whatever you think
Speaker 3: of the team be based on whether or not they're
Speaker 3: winning games in the Big Twelve.
Speaker 2: I'm surprised by the group that well I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2: I am surprised because they should know better. Uh, some
Speaker 2: of them. Uh this team is Hey, this team had
Speaker 2: to I had to get sold on this team. I'm
Speaker 2: kind of being more sold than I have ever been
Speaker 2: because of the toughness. Uh, you don't need Caleb as
Speaker 2: much as you did in the past, at least perception wise.
Speaker 2: Henry has kind of added to a Waka's uh inside power.
Speaker 3: He gives them a change of pace inside over there.
Speaker 3: You know you've been you've been packing it down with
Speaker 3: Tobyo Waka down there. Then he comes out of the
Speaker 3: game and Henry comes in, and now you got to
Speaker 3: get out on the on the perimeter.
Speaker 2: Now the other play together, and they're playing together, which
Speaker 2: makes it hard. I'm surprised.
Speaker 3: And then and then you know, older guys right in
Speaker 3: my breakfast club, the same conversation. I had the same
Speaker 3: conversation all day Tuesday.
Speaker 2: How do those guys become successful business people?
Speaker 7: Our sales are gone.
Speaker 3: I don't know how many times I said to somebody,
Speaker 3: you do know Arizona won last night?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they picked And we just gotta I just
Speaker 2: gotta text for one of our friends who said that
Speaker 2: you're spot on, because that's all you hear on Twitter
Speaker 2: and Facebook, people bitching about whatever. Enjoy the moment, because
Speaker 2: these moments are not are not gonna have.
Speaker 3: I am having so much fun this basketball season because
Speaker 3: I don't you know. One of the things I one
Speaker 3: of the things I said was, Okay, Arizona's got twenty
Speaker 3: conference games, all right, And they had twenty conference games
Speaker 3: the last couple of years in the big in the
Speaker 3: in the PAC twelve.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, when you.
Speaker 3: Looked at the PAC twelve schedule, at the twenty conference games,
Speaker 3: how many games did you think were losable?
Speaker 2: Maybe three?
Speaker 3: Maybe three? Yeah, you know you thought the two UCLA
Speaker 3: games could be losable. You figured you'd split with Oregon,
Speaker 3: so you know, maybe maybe you count and that's it, right, right?
Speaker 3: Year after year after year, you thought maybe there's two
Speaker 3: or three games, and if they lost any more than that,
Speaker 3: you thought, what's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Hold on? Hold up? Thought we got a call. Hello,
Speaker 2: you're on the air and on the ball. Who's this hey, guys?
Speaker 8: How you doing?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: You think what were you think?
Speaker 8: I don't know, I don't know what got into Jay,
Speaker 8: but whatever he had, I want to eat some of it.
Speaker 8: Uh No, I agree, I agree wholeheartedly. The the interest
Speaker 8: thing about this team this year is they have struggled.
Speaker 8: They you know, they haven't shot well, I shouldn't say
Speaker 8: struggle overall. They have struggle with They're shooting and Caleb,
Speaker 8: you know Caleb specifically, but like you said, they're twelve
Speaker 8: and three with that struggle. R and I read this
Speaker 8: week one of the national writers I can't remember who
Speaker 8: was that if if Anyson is struggling like this, can
Speaker 8: you imagine if they get in a hot streak, what
Speaker 8: could happen? And that's what people got to think about.
Speaker 8: I mean, they've gotten in the past, they've been really
Speaker 8: you know, shooting a lot better. Maybe you know, you know,
Speaker 8: on a winning streak, and then again the tournament and
Speaker 8: they fall flat. This could be uh, you know, who knows,
Speaker 8: but this could be uh, you know, the reverse could
Speaker 8: be they could get.
Speaker 2: On a hot streak. To your point to me and
Speaker 2: you're texting me during the Jay's conversation. I think you
Speaker 2: guys need to have better friends, smarter friends.
Speaker 8: I think the thing about me and Jay is that
Speaker 8: we cut you know, we grew up in tuc time.
Speaker 8: We've been around a lot of maybe get frustrated and
Speaker 8: you know, like the football program get frustrated because you know,
Speaker 8: you can't turn the corner. And now the basketball team
Speaker 8: has been the Final four and what twenty four years,
Speaker 8: So I think we have a lot of people. We've
Speaker 8: been around a lot of people that have been through
Speaker 8: all that. So we hear the complaining or the you know, the.
Speaker 3: Whining, and Steven, they see.
Speaker 8: Something wrong, they're gonna act on.
Speaker 3: It has to understand that we're related to most of
Speaker 3: these people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just makes sense. You know, Hey, guess what
Speaker 2: I married. I married a supermodel. Yeah, but can she
Speaker 2: cook shot the hell?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 8: Well, I just wanted to call them and just say
Speaker 8: I agree with Jay, and I think people should just
Speaker 8: kind of you know, check themselves and see where Arizona's.
Speaker 3: At right now and enjoy what we're having, Enjoy what
Speaker 3: we're seeing.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, all right, thanks, So you made Jay's dat whatever.
Speaker 7: Agrees with Jay.
Speaker 3: So so, you know, to finish the point I was making, Okay,
Speaker 3: you know Pack twelve season, you know, three maybe four
Speaker 3: in the Big twelve conference? Of the twenty games, how
Speaker 3: many are losable? Sixteen?
Speaker 2: All of them. Here's the thing that I asked the
Speaker 2: people this week. I says, Okay, so you went through
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve schedule forever, Pack ten, even before that,
Speaker 2: how many times you say, okay, we're ready for this
Speaker 2: the tournament, right, not as much as you think you
Speaker 2: are that you are now because now you're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: we've been through a lot of stuff and we're not
Speaker 2: here to aliby the team, but you've gone through a lot,
Speaker 2: seen a lot, and you're going to be more comfortable
Speaker 2: now going in than you have ever been.
Speaker 3: To my point, which I think you know, if they
Speaker 3: if they don't go far in the big point in
Speaker 3: the in the in the in the tournament, I don't
Speaker 3: think it's going to be for lack of toughness. Maybe
Speaker 3: for lack of something, maybe for lack of shooting, something
Speaker 3: could get them, right. It may be that that you know,
Speaker 3: a couple of guys have a stretch of bad games
Speaker 3: and you don't win games, whatever, But I don't think
Speaker 3: you're going to chalk it up to a lack of toughness.
Speaker 2: No, no, because that's been to me, that's been the biggest,
Speaker 2: most impressive thing for me.
Speaker 3: Unless people who equate losing and and however you lose,
Speaker 3: how do you lose? Unless people equate that too, Well,
Speaker 3: they lost it because they weren't tough. Well, no, maybe
Speaker 3: they lost because the other team was pretty good.
Speaker 2: Well that's that's the thing. They're not factor, right, that's nothing.
Speaker 2: The ten people that you have lunch with, you get
Speaker 2: a limited about five of them. But but how many
Speaker 2: of them believe what you're saying that they're not.
Speaker 3: There's a handful, there's a handful, But you got more
Speaker 3: people who, as you say, are nitpicking. They're saying, but
Speaker 3: we're not doing this, and we're not doing that, and
Speaker 3: if we don't do that better, we can't go far.
Speaker 3: And I'm saying, guess what, We've gone pretty far doing
Speaker 3: exactly what they're doing up to now. You know, Yes,
Speaker 3: a Yukon, you know, gets on a tear like they
Speaker 3: did last year and just plays perfectly for six games
Speaker 3: in a row and they win the national championship going
Speaker 3: away that that can happen. But this team, let's say
Speaker 3: all of it comes together, they can do that. Whereas
Speaker 3: look at what the Yukon's doing. Now, look at Kansas
Speaker 3: right now, they've got well, you know, you can argue
Speaker 3: that both of those teams have way better players in Arizona,
Speaker 3: you know, player by player. But what are they doing.
Speaker 2: What the other guys don't understand is the other teams,
Speaker 2: like you kind of said, well, the other teams are
Speaker 2: pretty good. These teams are really good that Arizona's playing.
Speaker 2: You have to play Houston mentioned if you played about Houston.
Speaker 2: They played them here, they played them well. There's no
Speaker 2: shame in that that they played them well.
Speaker 3: And I don't think I sign anything against Houston that
Speaker 3: would tell me they couldn't beat them in a neutral
Speaker 3: court game if.
Speaker 2: They played and they played well enough. Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 2: gotta go. We're gonna get a whole Dennis Dodd talk
Speaker 2: about national stuff and maybe where Arizona fits in nationally.
Speaker 2: So looking forward to this. We hadn't talked to him
Speaker 2: in a while.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to wy in the Ball Here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You are Jay Goanzas.
Speaker 2: Now on the phone, we have Dennis Dott, one of
Speaker 2: our great guys from CBS Sports. Dennis, How are you
Speaker 2: are you there, danns Well, I'm here, Hi, Dennis, Welcome,
Speaker 2: Welcome to the show. We always love having you. You're
Speaker 2: a busy, busy man football with all the stuff going
Speaker 2: on with the college football situation, basketball going on. But
Speaker 2: let's talk first about Arizona basketball in the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: What do you think about the twelve to this point.
Speaker 6: You know what's the biggest The biggest story is one
Speaker 6: of the biggest disappointments that can Yeah, you've got people
Speaker 6: from ESPN now you know, same players quit and what
Speaker 6: happened canns basketball story came out today The Bill self
Speaker 6: interviews the Oklahoma State job like a year ago today.
Speaker 6: That's his alma mater, but still shocking for a Hall
Speaker 6: of Fame coach, still in the prime of his career.
Speaker 6: And it's and look, the league is down a tick.
Speaker 6: I think the SEC is just killing it. It's by
Speaker 6: falling away the best conference this year. I think Arizona's
Speaker 6: a good story. Houston's you know, may win the league.
Speaker 6: We'll see, uh, but I think it's more there's more
Speaker 6: parody this year in the league than there was last year.
Speaker 6: Still a good league, it's not the one it was
Speaker 6: maybe last ten years.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, Dennis and Jacob's also, I mean part of
Speaker 3: that is because, I mean, the reason that the Big
Speaker 3: twelve seems down is because Kansas is down right. It's
Speaker 3: kind of like, you know, if UCLA or Arizona wasn't
Speaker 3: good in the Pac twelve, people didn't think much of
Speaker 3: the packed wee well, they didn't think much of the
Speaker 3: Pacweb anyways. But but you know, when you've got to
Speaker 3: when you've got a program like Kansas that isn't where
Speaker 3: it normally needs to normally is Yeah, you look at
Speaker 3: the league and say, well, you're not as good as
Speaker 3: you usually are. It's still a hard league. And you
Speaker 3: mentioned the word parody. It's it's unbelievable, you know. You know,
Speaker 3: we're going through our first round of this and we're
Speaker 3: seeing how every team that Arizona plays is another really
Speaker 3: good team that's hard to beat.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like even a Baylor that's down this year.
Speaker 6: It's hard to see Cincinnati where did they just want?
Speaker 6: I can't remember, but no, you're right. I mean, I
Speaker 6: think the thing that makes the Big twelve so attractive
Speaker 6: in football is the parody because now we know in
Speaker 6: any given year anybody through that. Uh. It is not
Speaker 6: not so much in uh in basketball. But I think
Speaker 6: Kansas got taught, you know, maybe going to the portal
Speaker 6: too much to try to try to fill in with players.
Speaker 6: And these guys, these guys a J. Store Peak, Mayo's good,
Speaker 6: Ryland Griffin from from Alabama are very good. Hunter Dickinson
Speaker 6: has taken a big step down right guy who's an
Speaker 6: All American for who is for his career. I think
Speaker 6: average is seventeen and ten. And so it's that there
Speaker 6: are times when you watch them play, but they really
Speaker 6: look like they they're not interested in playing basketball. The
Speaker 6: certainly they look like they care about each other. When
Speaker 6: they got their butts with it the DYU this week,
Speaker 6: that looks like a total give up job. I mean
Speaker 6: they were they were never to start. So that's some of.
Speaker 2: The look some of the look at it can Yeah,
Speaker 2: no question, Denis. I can't remember if we saw you
Speaker 2: a Boise last year or not, but I know I
Speaker 2: saw you at the Final four and and and Bill
Speaker 2: self at the time, I think they had just beaten
Speaker 2: Stanford or Sandford. I'm sorry and talked about I can't
Speaker 2: wait till next year. In fact, I was looking forward
Speaker 2: to next year. Now this year is here and not
Speaker 2: doing so well. In the Oklahoma state thing that you
Speaker 2: mentioned today, I saw that. I saw that just about
Speaker 2: an hour ago. Uh, unbelievable. Do you think that the
Speaker 2: that a play that a team from the Big Big
Speaker 2: twelve will end up at the Final four even though
Speaker 2: the SEC is very dominant?
Speaker 6: Look, I yeah, look anything can happen. We haven't seen
Speaker 6: the job. We haven't seen the bracket. You don't know
Speaker 6: who's gonna get hot. Yeah, do I think No? I
Speaker 6: don't think one. Well, but that's not to say it
Speaker 6: can't happen. I mean I do think there's there's pressure.
Speaker 6: As good as the SEC is, there's pressure on the
Speaker 6: SEC to have at least two right the way they've been.
Speaker 6: They just had a one versus too Alabama Auburn for
Speaker 6: the first time last Saturday. And Zuri to me is
Speaker 6: the top ten team like that mm hm, you know,
Speaker 6: for example, and maybe a quality throughout that throughout that league.
Speaker 6: So no, I look, if I had to pick today,
Speaker 6: i'd say no, But you know, you never know. That's
Speaker 6: what the tournament's about.
Speaker 2: Have you watched Arizona at all?
Speaker 6: I had watched them a bit yet, I you know,
Speaker 6: obviously they've rebounded from early on. The schedule schedule was tough.
Speaker 6: They so I got a chance to win this league.
Speaker 6: Can't wait to see him in Kansas City. Yeah, in
Speaker 6: the with the sixteen team league, they're going to play,
Speaker 6: let's see four games each Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday of that week.
Speaker 6: I think that's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's how they're doing it. The bottom the
Speaker 3: bottom eight teams play on Tuesday. Then those four winners
Speaker 3: play against teams uh seven through I mean nine through twelve,
Speaker 3: and then the one through four only have to play
Speaker 3: starting Thursday.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and this town has never seen anything like that.
Speaker 6: I live in Kansas City, Uh, and I've been to
Speaker 6: think all the Big twelve tournaments. Uh, they've never seen
Speaker 6: anything like this. And I still think it's the best
Speaker 6: postseason conference tournament out there. This will be fun. I mean,
Speaker 6: if you're just want to go watch ball and significant
Speaker 6: ball beginning Tuesday is shot. Yeah. You means there's you know,
Speaker 6: talent scattered throughout there. It isn't top TENVY, So I
Speaker 6: think that's gonna be a black You know.
Speaker 2: The only people that are disappointed are the two sons
Speaker 2: because they wanted to go to Vegas.
Speaker 6: Yeah that may that may happen. Uh when this current contract.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you've been busy as well with basketball expansion
Speaker 2: and now I saw a couple of days ago you
Speaker 2: had the possibility of football expansion. Can you go into
Speaker 2: the basketball first?
Speaker 6: Uh? Well that's been reported that I think at least
Speaker 6: Greg Zankee and the SEC is really supports the expansion
Speaker 6: of the field by as many as eight so from
Speaker 6: what is sixty eight to seventy six, and that all
Speaker 6: dovetails into what the SEC is, Big ten one and
Speaker 6: expanding the field in football. It's look, if you think
Speaker 6: those eight teams in the basketball tournament are going to
Speaker 6: be Fairmount or mon Mouth or Northern, They're going and
Speaker 6: you're praised, it's going to be all Power Conference teams
Speaker 6: and it's probably all going to be SEC and Big
Speaker 6: Ten school to that. Then the reason you're seeing them
Speaker 6: go for those two leagues go for automatic qualifiers beginning
Speaker 6: in twenty twenty six is really simple. Tony Pettiti, the
Speaker 6: commissioner of the Big Ten, realized he had eighteen teams,
Speaker 6: biggest conference ever ever in Division one and needed access
Speaker 6: and more spots because he has the biggest league. Number two,
Speaker 6: the SEC is seriously considering considering a nine conference game. Well,
Speaker 6: that means that half of Greg's thanking teams are going
Speaker 6: to endure a loss if you play that ninth conference game,
Speaker 6: and so you need a cushy landing spot for those
Speaker 6: schools that do lose that extra game and still have
Speaker 6: an ability to get in the playoffs. And it basically
Speaker 6: explains their mentality and trying to do.
Speaker 3: But what drives me crazy about all this, Dennis, is
Speaker 3: that they're getting those bids anyways. Now get the whole
Speaker 3: Alabama didn't get in over SMU last year, but that
Speaker 3: that's an aberration that's almost never going to happen. They're
Speaker 3: gonna get four bids no matter what. Why do we
Speaker 3: have to put it down on paper? Because if you
Speaker 3: don't deserve the fourth one, you shouldn't get the fourth.
Speaker 6: One because they don't want that discussion to be had.
Speaker 6: And by that, I mean they don't trust the selection
Speaker 6: to me, and I don't know if I blame it.
Speaker 6: It's all what they did in Florida State. Yeah, I
Speaker 6: guess you could have made a case for Alabama. I
Speaker 6: wasn't in Alabama. Guy, I'm glad you got in. But
Speaker 6: they don't want the selection committee. They don't trust them.
Speaker 6: They don't trust them because it's a rotating membership. Their
Speaker 6: standards and they're the things they consider important different from
Speaker 6: year to year. And with that much of stay the
Speaker 6: deal collegetball playoffs. They don't want humans deciding. To the
Speaker 6: point that I did a story last year on ward manual.
Speaker 6: He is the athletic director at Michigan, and he became
Speaker 6: the chair in these in these critical times where everybody's
Speaker 6: looking behind everybody's Max, How can you put the Big
Speaker 6: ten commissioner in charge of the playoffs? That you know?
Speaker 6: Let's all I ask him, Ward, why do you need this?
Speaker 6: You've got two accidentcy investigations going on at that me
Speaker 6: trying to hire a basketball coach, and he wanted to
Speaker 6: be chair of the committee. So I thought that was
Speaker 6: kind of odd that they would go to those links
Speaker 6: to put the Big ten commissioner and charge of the playoffs.
Speaker 6: So that I think that only heightens the the anxiety
Speaker 6: about letting the humans decide we.
Speaker 2: Don't have you very long. So let me ask you,
Speaker 2: what do you plan on coming out here? We saw
Speaker 2: you a few times under Jed. I think in springball,
Speaker 2: do you think you're gonna come out to see what
Speaker 2: Brennan's up to?
Speaker 13: One?
Speaker 2: Do you think he'll write that ship? Two and three? Uh,
Speaker 2: some people are not even going to have the spring
Speaker 2: ball because they want to hide their guys.
Speaker 6: Yeah, TVD we haven't gotten that fall yet. Obviously, there
Speaker 6: was some first year I don't know when you're what
Speaker 6: you're gonna call it hitters and consistencies, the front kind
Speaker 6: of riving things. Yeah, they don't want they don't want
Speaker 6: spring press. This is a bigger issue. College football tended
Speaker 6: towards an NFL model anyway, and her current coach or
Speaker 6: coach say, we just want to do lowt you know,
Speaker 6: off season uh, training activities where you're not no one's
Speaker 6: getting injured. There's I'm going to write something soon about
Speaker 6: the injury rate. Uh that is now so far the
Speaker 6: injury rate on kickoffs, which had changed a couple of
Speaker 6: years ago, it's so far down. It's almost lower than
Speaker 6: the regular place in scrimmage, so white even risk it
Speaker 6: the average NFL team, it's less than one time per week.
Speaker 6: Because of the obvious you're paying these guys millions of dollars.
Speaker 6: Why put your in their training professionals at a point?
Speaker 6: Why put their health at risk? And I think college
Speaker 6: coaches are seeing that too. Why have you know? Why
Speaker 6: put you You've got the the Nebraska thing with rules players.
Speaker 6: I got news for Matt rule. If they want one
Speaker 6: of your players, they're going.
Speaker 3: To know its.
Speaker 6: Controlled spring game. You know.
Speaker 2: It's like me trying to add a girlfriend.
Speaker 6: Trying to have a keep I know, I know.
Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I mean it's it's changing everything and and
Speaker 3: it you know, and I'm gonna I keep having this
Speaker 3: conversation with you, like get used to this, right, It's
Speaker 3: it's it's different, uh, and but it can still be fun.
Speaker 3: You know, we were just talking about the you know,
Speaker 3: the Big Twelve season. You know, as hard as these
Speaker 3: games are, you know, for teams like Arizona, they're certainly
Speaker 3: more interesting and they're more fun. And yet you still
Speaker 3: got people down here at least, you know, thinking that
Speaker 3: they should be running through the Big Twelve like they
Speaker 3: used to run through the Pac twelve. And it's just
Speaker 3: not not that way anymore.
Speaker 6: That's the curse and the attracting that anybody can win
Speaker 6: the Big Twelve, and by extension, you'd be in the
Speaker 6: playoffs if you did. I think the you know, out
Speaker 6: of this automatic qualifier playing. I think the Big Twelve
Speaker 6: is going to get too automatic every year. I think
Speaker 6: they love that they won't they got publicly yet because
Speaker 6: they hadn't vetted all.
Speaker 3: The times, right.
Speaker 6: I think the President would love having an age that
Speaker 6: love had two guard keep spots with the SEC and
Speaker 6: Big ten taking over. No, but I you know, I
Speaker 6: think that's the way it's going to go. And look,
Speaker 6: I love I love the fact that it's like that.
Speaker 6: I went to that Kansas Colorado game in November. Was
Speaker 6: mid November. Yeah, at that point both of those schools,
Speaker 6: Kansas is trying to get to a bold Colorado was
Speaker 6: still in the running to get to win the Big
Speaker 6: twelve play a championship game and by extension, get to
Speaker 6: the playoffs. That was a juicy storyline at that point
Speaker 6: where little old Kansas they stumbled early that they were
Speaker 6: they're trying to get to a bowl game. Colorado is
Speaker 6: proof of concept. Now Kansas won that day, but I
Speaker 6: think by then Coach Prime had already proved his proof
Speaker 6: of concept, that he had turned it around. I mean,
Speaker 6: I give him im all kinds of props now among
Speaker 6: those that really dunk him early on. He has done
Speaker 6: what he was supposed to do with.
Speaker 2: Right Dennis real quick. Because I kind of joked about
Speaker 2: it earlier. Fans are used to going to Vegas and
Speaker 2: kind of in making it Tucson South. What are Tucson North?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: But no one really talks about the Kansas City Tournament
Speaker 2: and you kind of alluded to it that it's gonna
Speaker 2: be fantastic basketball for a few days. What can people
Speaker 2: expect if they do go to that tournament, because it's
Speaker 2: gonna be crazy.
Speaker 6: Uh T Mobile Uh not tem Mobile Arena in Las Vegas,
Speaker 6: but T Mobile Center in Kansas City is a great venue.
Speaker 6: It's across the street from an entertainment district called Power
Speaker 6: and Light Bars restaurants. You just walk across the street
Speaker 6: to between games after games the four games. If you're
Speaker 6: of a mind and it's typically you know, the most
Speaker 6: fans from Kansas State, Kansas and Iowa stay, It's gonna
Speaker 6: be interesting how those Kansas fans turn out for a
Speaker 6: very disappoint the team. I guarantee you one thing, I
Speaker 6: always stay, will out, buy out, drink outscream anybody that
Speaker 6: week in time. They are great fans. They just it's
Speaker 6: a tradition. They come down to my Iowa or wherever
Speaker 6: and build a place basically as long as I always stay.
Speaker 2: Last right, Well, they were down here and they came
Speaker 2: and droves, I mean the part of the biggest crowd
Speaker 2: I've ever seen from an opposing team, and they gave
Speaker 2: everything until that sixty five footery killer. Yep, yeah yeah, thanks, yeah, yeah, well,
Speaker 2: thank you, Thank you Dennis as always appreciate you. We
Speaker 2: see you soon.
Speaker 6: Are you guys going to be here?
Speaker 2: Well, I gotta buy a jacket.
Speaker 3: I work for a living.
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Speaker 2: That scares me? Thanks Ben, Yeah, take care they did
Speaker 2: a stime from CBS Sports. Yeah, I was thinking about
Speaker 2: people have to buy jackets and globes.
Speaker 3: Well, well again, I remember when when Arizona got in
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Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in today with
Speaker 2: me is Jay Gonzalez. Got Kobe at the head of
Speaker 2: the machine here out of the snake. Good to talk
Speaker 2: to Dennis.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, these guys are Here's what I like
Speaker 3: is that you talk to these guys and you talk
Speaker 3: to them about Arizona and they're not clueless, right right, right,
Speaker 3: you know, they know their stuff and they have good
Speaker 3: opinions and they have knowledge, and it's great to you know, one,
Speaker 3: it's great to see that Arizona's on the radar right
Speaker 3: as a fan, but also that you know, they bring
Speaker 3: some insight that maybe we don't bring because they they're
Speaker 3: all over the country and seeing stuff.
Speaker 2: Let's not we have a bunt ten and twelve minutes.
Speaker 2: Let's get through. Maybe if we can hear it the
Speaker 2: Tommy Lloyd thing, maybe the first five maybe he said
Speaker 2: something interested interesting, and then we can talk about it.
Speaker 19: All right, guys, let's knock this out. Got stuff to do.
Speaker 3: Two sort of days off was nice, It was great,
Speaker 3: great Tucson.
Speaker 19: Tucson did well, Tucson provided some good weather, and uh, yeah,
Speaker 19: it was. It was good to kind of recharge a
Speaker 19: little bit.
Speaker 1: Said after that the Bailor year that it was about
Speaker 1: the response and the energy for that game, and you
Speaker 1: seemed pleased with it.
Speaker 3: But how do you then build off that now that
Speaker 3: you have this extended break do it again? I mean
Speaker 3: it's not complicated.
Speaker 19: I mean, you you know this time of year, you
Speaker 19: know every game is going to be you know, you know, competitive,
Speaker 19: and and if you think you're going to show up
Speaker 19: and and just go through the motions and be successful,
Speaker 19: you know you're you're you're delusional. So yeah, we just
Speaker 19: need to we need to make sure every time we
Speaker 19: take the court that you know, you know, we we
Speaker 19: were serving the game the way it should be served
Speaker 19: and and that's with effort, energy, intelligence, you know all
Speaker 19: that stuff. So you know, I mean just to me
Speaker 19: that that those are the things that those are the
Speaker 19: ingredients that I'm looking for right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, I or Devon is a very highly
Speaker 1: thought out I thought, after prospect, what did you guys
Speaker 1: see from him? What was the plan?
Speaker 17: And try to defense the first time around?
Speaker 19: And I mean, he's, you know, he's he's he's a
Speaker 19: very talented, you know, young player.
Speaker 3: Obviously he's got a great future ahead of him.
Speaker 19: And you know he's he's you know, getting a great
Speaker 19: opportunity there to play with the ball in his hands
Speaker 19: a lot, and you know, and and and you know
Speaker 19: he's having success. So you know, we know he presents
Speaker 19: a lot of challenges, you know, and but you know,
Speaker 19: but but those are challenges I think we're up for.
Speaker 13: You had your team's country before, but are things a
Speaker 13: little easier when you see be like even when they
Speaker 13: did to Kansas and you can kind of point to I.
Speaker 19: Mean, I mean, you know, we haven't really even talked
Speaker 19: about that yet. I mean, you know, I mean, I
Speaker 19: hope our guys are paying attention. But you know, I
Speaker 19: mean that game at b YU, I mean it's a
Speaker 19: little misleading.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 19: We we we kind of It's one of those games
Speaker 19: is very even throughout, you know, like I don't know,
Speaker 19: eight minutes to go or something.
Speaker 3: We kind of made a run at the.
Speaker 19: Right time, and you know, and and you know, they
Speaker 19: they tried to come back and missed some of the shots,
Speaker 19: and you know we were able to kind of you know,
Speaker 19: win at the end comfortably. But but you know, it
Speaker 19: wasn't like it was from the tip. It was domination.
Speaker 19: So we know it's gonna be an evenly matched game.
Speaker 3: And and and I.
Speaker 19: Also know, you know, I've played East BYU a lot.
Speaker 19: I know I know that there's some character in that program,
Speaker 19: and there's gonna be a response, and you know they're
Speaker 19: gonna come down here, you know, with the mindset of
Speaker 19: getting to win. And so we're gonna have to approach
Speaker 19: it the same way when you played three.
Speaker 1: Straight home games against ranked teams Iowa State, Houston, Texas Tech, and.
Speaker 17: Now you've got an unranked b YU team coming in here.
Speaker 1: You have to, you know, tell the players to guard
Speaker 1: against the letdown.
Speaker 17: Of the GAU.
Speaker 3: No that easy.
Speaker 6: Did you make.
Speaker 2: The EYU Kansas game?
Speaker 4: It seems like nationally the perspective is Kansas is slipping,
Speaker 4: et cetera.
Speaker 7: But you just went up to be white.
Speaker 19: I mean, listen, I mean by you played great, Kansas, didn't,
Speaker 19: I mean when it was impressive. You know, there's you know,
Speaker 19: no no reason for me to draw the opinions on
Speaker 19: Kansas because we you know, we don't play them for
Speaker 19: a few weeks. But but by you look great. You know,
Speaker 19: they had their way with them every which way, and
Speaker 19: so obviously they're gonna be feeling really good about themselves,
Speaker 19: you know, coming down here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was just kind of an early point of it.
Speaker 2: I want to ask you, because I haven't asked anybody
Speaker 2: this question, because I have an answer to my own question. Uh,
Speaker 2: who do you think the X factor is with this team?
Speaker 2: You got a month left, you want to try to
Speaker 2: go as far as you can, do as well as
Speaker 2: you can. What would you say is the X factor?
Speaker 3: I still think it's Caleb and And the reason being
Speaker 3: is that you know.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know okay. I mean, would you if
Speaker 2: you had a hundred bucks, would you bet on? Would
Speaker 2: you bet on him trending in a good way or
Speaker 2: in a bad way.
Speaker 3: If I had to bet it, if you said you
Speaker 3: have to bet this is okay. If you said I
Speaker 3: have to bet this, I'd say he's gonna he'll finish strong.
Speaker 2: Okay, So and then he's so.
Speaker 3: The reason I say he's the X factor is because
Speaker 3: you know that if he goes off, if he has
Speaker 3: a great game, scores a bunch of points. Is in
Speaker 3: the mix offensively, turnover I mean I turnover, assists, some steals,
Speaker 3: playing some defense. They're gonna win, yes, if he and
Speaker 3: if he doesn't, they might lose. There's a good chance
Speaker 3: they're gonna lose. So the one guy to me that
Speaker 3: they need down the streets because you're gonna get what
Speaker 3: you're gonna get from kJ lewis he is who he is. Okay,
Speaker 3: you're gonna get what you're gonna get from Jayden Bradley. Now,
Speaker 3: Henry maybe is a kind of a close runner up
Speaker 3: to that, because if he keeps doing what he's doing,
Speaker 3: they're a whole lot better. But I think the one
Speaker 3: guy they have to have as we go, as they
Speaker 3: go into the tournament. Okay, not so much to finish
Speaker 3: out this regular seat because they're gonna you know, if
Speaker 3: they're throw top one, two or three seed in the
Speaker 3: in the Big twelve, they've got a good seed, they'll
Speaker 3: be fine. But to make a run in the n
Speaker 3: C Double A tournament, they're gonna need Caleb Love.
Speaker 2: I have no I've said that. I've said that, there's
Speaker 2: no question that in order to go deep into the
Speaker 2: tournament that Caleb has to have. He has to have
Speaker 2: some matches.
Speaker 3: Tournament.
Speaker 2: Hear me out, and I'm not gonna go along with this,
Speaker 2: but they would not have won without without Dela Orso.
Speaker 2: Dorso has kind of been been not he's been a
Speaker 2: C player, he's been a C player C plus.
Speaker 3: But they would not have won Monday last Okay, correct.
Speaker 2: So that's what he that's what he offers to this team.
Speaker 2: If he scores eleven points, does it efficiently? Can maybe defend,
Speaker 2: but you're not gonna get defense for him. He's gonna
Speaker 2: spot up and shoot.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 2: They would not have won Monday. And I know this
Speaker 2: is a reach for me because it's just because your
Speaker 2: Caleb thing is is pretty accurate because without him going,
Speaker 2: they're not going to go deep, right. They need him
Speaker 2: to catch fire right, But Delorso is one of those
Speaker 2: dudes that if you can, if he can get twelve
Speaker 2: and you hit four the or whatever from the three
Speaker 2: point line to free up from perimeter. He just hasn't
Speaker 2: done that. He's done it maybe a time or two,
Speaker 2: but they need him to do that, and Tommy has
Speaker 2: not talked about him a lot until the last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks where he says he needs to start showing up.
Speaker 3: The only thing I'll say to that is that they've
Speaker 3: gotten this far essentially without.
Speaker 2: Him, no question, no question.
Speaker 3: So I think to me, Delorso is kind of like,
Speaker 3: you know, icing on the cake. If they if they
Speaker 3: get him too, well, then now they're really really hard
Speaker 3: to beat. I don't know if they have to have
Speaker 3: del Orso, but if they do, it's great. I think
Speaker 3: they have to have Caleb.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that. I was just thinking because
Speaker 2: and I've said this, I'm not disapperiod No. No, if
Speaker 2: you make a good point, here's here's the issue. And
Speaker 2: I don't think I've talked to you about it, because
Speaker 2: I've talked with the other people. They have seven dudes,
Speaker 2: eight dudes. Maybe they haven't. They don't get much from
Speaker 2: dill or So consistently. They don't get much from Townsend consistently. Right,
Speaker 2: So that gets to six people, and then you need
Speaker 2: those six to do really, really well. And in my
Speaker 2: mind I've said this, Platters were playing with with the
Speaker 2: one hand tied behind their back because two dudes, a
Speaker 2: starter and a key reserve. Two starters are not playing.
Speaker 2: But Steve, every team is like that.
Speaker 6: The teams.
Speaker 3: Teams for the most part, don't go when you're talking
Speaker 3: about really really good players, Okay, go about six deep.
Speaker 3: There's seven, eight, nine guys are guys that have to
Speaker 3: come in fill some gaps for short periods of time,
Speaker 3: try not to do anything stupid. And that's and Arizona's
Speaker 3: in the same position that so many other teams. You know,
Speaker 3: I saw like I saw Houston, all right, so these
Speaker 3: guys are really good, but there was you know, not
Speaker 3: every guy that stepped on the court for Houston was
Speaker 3: a great player.
Speaker 2: No, but Steven Houston. But they do what they need
Speaker 2: to do. But they they are that sixty teams. They're
Speaker 2: a nasty good team.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing, you know, if if Delorso, you know,
Speaker 3: they tell them out of Delorso, Townsend and and and
Speaker 3: and Henry Vassar, and those guys are playing really well
Speaker 3: and contributing and and and putting putting in some really
Speaker 3: good minutes, Arizona becomes very hard to beat. But most
Speaker 3: of the teams are like that with their six, seven,
Speaker 3: eight or even nine guys, you know, and and that's
Speaker 3: where a team like Kansas I saw I saw some
Speaker 3: of that b YU game, and I thought, what happened
Speaker 3: to their talent?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 3: What happened to their talent? I said? Are there only
Speaker 3: three guys that I saw that that I thought were
Speaker 3: Kansas worthy? You know? B Yu b Yu look like
Speaker 3: Yukon against them and Yukon last year against them. I
Speaker 3: mean they just as as Tommy said, they just beat
Speaker 3: them every which way.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: I think those two do just have to combine for
Speaker 2: like twenty twenty and I don't know, eight rebounds and
Speaker 2: just do better.
Speaker 3: What I what I like, Steve, is that it looks
Speaker 3: like Arizona has the pieces. Now the question is from
Speaker 3: game to game to game, do those pieces come together
Speaker 3: fit well and and build a win. That's the thing.
Speaker 2: Let's take it because you're gonna cop a couple months. Hello,
Speaker 2: you're on the air nine the ball? Who's this.
Speaker 6: Twenty and I don't know eighty bounds?
Speaker 2: Who's Hey?
Speaker 6: This is Don. How are you doing, Steve?
Speaker 13: Hi?
Speaker 20: Jake?
Speaker 3: What's up Don? How's it going?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 7: It's going good.
Speaker 8: I missed you last week. I was out of town
Speaker 8: so on Friday, so I wasn't.
Speaker 20: Able to call in last week because Steven had invited
Speaker 20: me to do so.
Speaker 3: But I appreciate you.
Speaker 20: I think that people you've been hanging out with Jay.
Speaker 20: It gets back to what I what I told Steve
Speaker 20: yesterday is Arizona fans.
Speaker 8: Is used to cruising through the through the season.
Speaker 2: Seventeen and one.
Speaker 8: Sixteen and two's, fifteen and threes. That's what we've we've
Speaker 8: you know, we've we grew up with. That's what Luke
Speaker 8: taught us.
Speaker 2: And now we don't know.
Speaker 20: What to make of this being in a fight every
Speaker 20: day night, right, you know, So it's hard.
Speaker 2: To It's hard.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: It's like.
Speaker 20: It's like if the basketball team was a football team,
Speaker 20: they were they would look like they've been playing in
Speaker 20: the mud all day. At the end of games, win
Speaker 20: or lose, it looked like a muddy game, whereas you know,
Speaker 20: basketball wise.
Speaker 2: We're used to being clean at the end.
Speaker 8: You know it, you know, we don't. We don't need
Speaker 8: first aid.
Speaker 20: We just need a towel, dry off, and you know,
Speaker 20: go out and have dinner after the game. But now
Speaker 20: with the way the Big Twelve is, you know, you're
Speaker 20: in a fight every night, every single night, one through
Speaker 20: one through sixteen. And then Steve, Steve brings this guy.
Speaker 20: Steve brings this guy in and he pooh poohs the
Speaker 20: whole league. And Arizona didn't bring nothing to the Big twelve.
Speaker 20: And nobody from the Big twelve is gonna gonna make
Speaker 20: the make the Final four. And then he backtracked and
Speaker 20: he goes, well, we haven't seen the brackets yet or
Speaker 20: nothing like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Dennis is kind of credible. Yeah, that kind
Speaker 2: of and and I well, don if you were to
Speaker 2: pick a team or two who's going to make it
Speaker 2: to the Final four, I had one for sure.
Speaker 20: I would probably say that Iowa State probably has the
Speaker 20: best chance to make a Final four. But at the
Speaker 20: end of the day, I mean, you you talked about
Speaker 20: a couple of a couple of years ago when Arizona
Speaker 20: had to get through went got got through TCU, and
Speaker 20: then had Houston after that. I mean, with with the
Speaker 20: numbers that we have, and and almost to the X
Speaker 20: factor discussion, I agree with you, Steve. If Delorso can
Speaker 20: start producing a little bit more that puts Arizona, that
Speaker 20: would put Arizona over the top, just the same as
Speaker 20: if Caleb were to put six games together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but which one is more?
Speaker 3: But which one is more likely? Who knows?
Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows. No, that's a good point. That's a
Speaker 2: good point, because no, you're right, No, you just hope
Speaker 2: that it happens right, Well, I hope that happens consistently. Hey,
Speaker 2: Donna go, we gotta go. We get all right, thank you,
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