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Speaker 3: This is the Troubleshooter Show now, Tom Martinez.
Speaker 4: Welcome, Welcome, my friends to the only show off. It's
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Speaker 4: little bit better if you've been ripped off, maybe a
Speaker 4: bad contractor out there, maybe a bad landlord.
Speaker 5: Man, we're starting to.
Speaker 4: Get a lot of calls, you know, COVID the landlords
Speaker 4: really took it in the shorts, if you will, and now,
Speaker 4: uh it's different. I mean now, if you don't pay,
Speaker 4: you get kicked out like it's supposed to be. But
Speaker 4: if your furnace isn't working or you've got some kind
Speaker 4: of scum lord, that's a whole different story.
Speaker 5: We love helping with that studio with me.
Speaker 4: Kevin Calkin shared an auto tech Kevin, how are you doing, man?
Speaker 6: I'm doing great, doing great, stay and warm house.
Speaker 4: Of week going over at the shop. Is it busy slowed?
Speaker 4: The cold weather's going to be great.
Speaker 6: For the weather's really gonna help it it's a twainer.
Speaker 6: You know, we're just recovering. The holidays slowed everything way
Speaker 6: way down. Oh my god, they did so picking up.
Speaker 4: We're going into restaurants and stuff that Suzanne and I
Speaker 4: frequent a lot, and they're just empty right now.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's really crazy everything is, but it's super nice.
Speaker 5: Oh it is nice.
Speaker 4: Hey, I'm trying to get Suzanne to start opening the
Speaker 4: show occasionally.
Speaker 5: What do you think about that? Kevin?
Speaker 6: Well, we were talking about that. I don't know if
Speaker 6: I could do it either. Why Well, I could sit
Speaker 6: chat with anybody, but to sit I don't know how
Speaker 6: you guys talk for four hours.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, people don't know how I shut up for
Speaker 5: ten minutes. Like Marcus Well.
Speaker 4: It's kind of funny because Mark, the first time I
Speaker 4: was thrown into it, I just kind of, you know,
Speaker 4: you emulate what you heard, and back in the time,
Speaker 4: it was I listened to Peter Boyles. Growing up, I
Speaker 4: listened to this thing called talk Net. Hey, Shannon, you've
Speaker 4: been around forever. Do you remember talk Net? It had
Speaker 4: Bruce something and then Sally Jesse Rafael I believe.
Speaker 5: Was Yeah, that's going way back.
Speaker 4: So growing up I listened to those guys, I was
Speaker 4: probably the only kid. Everybody else was listening to Gi Joe,
Speaker 4: But I listened to talk radio when I met Suzanne.
Speaker 5: That's all I listened to. And you're a talker, Mark,
Speaker 5: I'm not a talker. Yeah, but it's kind of weird.
Speaker 5: Do you sit down with your sister?
Speaker 4: My god, you'll talk for four hoursied? Well, maybe so,
Speaker 4: but I'd hate the if you broadcasted that, that would
Speaker 4: be interesting.
Speaker 5: That would be like my sister call me on the show.
Speaker 5: Can you imagine that? What a show?
Speaker 6: That would be?
Speaker 4: All right, I'll always tell you when we got lines open,
Speaker 4: but three oh three seven one, three eight two five
Speaker 4: five we do have lines open right now, and Tommy's
Speaker 4: going to join us pretty soon. He had to take
Speaker 4: a phone call to last second. So that's a deputy
Speaker 4: doc with us. Like I said, Ed Sheridan, Auto Tech.
Speaker 4: Isn't Jeff coming in?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I just run a couple of minutes late.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think you should open up.
Speaker 5: I can try one of these days.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna have I think John Fuller's gonna be
Speaker 4: in for one hour next week.
Speaker 6: He's gonna plan on coming in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, come in and sit with him. That'll be good.
Speaker 5: And then I don't know. It's not that I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, you just talk. What else do you do?
Speaker 4: I'm just talking right now.
Speaker 6: I'd love to do.
Speaker 4: You got to watch this, so you got to give
Speaker 4: the number out three O three seven one three A
Speaker 4: two five five. See how I pushed the seven three
Speaker 4: oh three seven one three a two five five. I
Speaker 4: remember Howard Stern would used to what was that station
Speaker 4: he was on where he would go, uh w NBC.
Speaker 4: They'd make him say that, and he drove him nuts.
Speaker 6: Did you ever work with the script so you can
Speaker 6: remember phone numbers and different stuff?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: What do you mean a script?
Speaker 6: You mean for like commercials, like notes on the side.
Speaker 6: So if you're gonna give the the you know, you
Speaker 6: don't give your home phone number out or something. No number.
Speaker 4: Now, the one that sticks with to me three oh
Speaker 4: three Martino, so easy. Oh yeah, But three O three
Speaker 4: seven one three a two five five. And when I
Speaker 4: was doing KOA twenty years ago, it was three oh
Speaker 4: three seven to one three. Hold on, it's three eighty
Speaker 4: five hundred, is that right? Three oh three seven one
Speaker 4: three eighty five hundred eighty five eighty five In the
Speaker 4: News might be eighty five hundred. I forget one of
Speaker 4: them's like KOA News, But no, I never did. There
Speaker 4: was dayszo where I would go from that studio over
Speaker 4: to here.
Speaker 6: What's that mean? You can't remember where you're at and which.
Speaker 5: A lot's changed here? If you go into the KOA studio,
Speaker 5: it's like being in Trump Tower where we're we're in Motel.
Speaker 4: Six over here. So there's a little bit of difference
Speaker 4: in it. I mean, there really is. I'm looking so
Speaker 4: forward Kevin to flying out Sunday to the inauguration.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be wild.
Speaker 5: It's gonna be so funny.
Speaker 6: I mean, people are at the inaugura, any idea.
Speaker 4: I can tell you that it's gonna be the biggest, best,
Speaker 4: most best, biggest ever, more people than ever, huge, great,
Speaker 4: and even better than great.
Speaker 7: Twenty thousand people are gonna get frost bite.
Speaker 4: If Biden had a million, Trump's gonna have eight million.
Speaker 5: Hey, Mark, did you hear the latest moved indoors?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: I don't know what tell I think you know what
Speaker 5: that sounds like to me?
Speaker 4: That sounds like to me, I got to get up
Speaker 4: at four am instead of five am to get here.
Speaker 5: Yep, I mean, it really does. Would I would bank?
Speaker 4: On three thirty, I emailed uh, or I texted the
Speaker 4: guy I'm going with, Tracy uh He got Mike and
Speaker 4: myself tickets, So Mike and.
Speaker 5: I are flying out. Susan just wouldn't even go, would
Speaker 5: you know? Too many people for me. She wouldn't like it. Concert.
Speaker 8: That's fine, but I went to that Trump rally out
Speaker 8: at the Gay Lord back in October.
Speaker 6: That's tough spinning around that long.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot. Tell me he's not like a
Speaker 5: rock star coming out too, he really is. It's a
Speaker 5: it's a show. It is a show.
Speaker 4: Kevin, what's your when you're here on car Day three
Speaker 4: O three seven one three two five five?
Speaker 5: What are your favorite calls to take? Honestly?
Speaker 8: Like?
Speaker 6: Are they?
Speaker 5: Do you? Do you like the calls.
Speaker 4: Where more or less someone maybe bought a car from
Speaker 4: somebody or a dealership that really sucked. Or do you
Speaker 4: like more of the hey, you know when I turned
Speaker 4: the key? It makes this sound.
Speaker 6: Well either way. I also I like helping people too,
Speaker 6: So I mean, I if somebody's in a jam with
Speaker 6: a repair, or they feel like they're not being treated fairly,
Speaker 6: they just want a second opinion. That's I love giving
Speaker 6: second opinions.
Speaker 4: So I've got one I'm trying to figure out how
Speaker 4: to handle. I talked to a part owner yesterday.
Speaker 5: Is that the Kia one? Yeah, kias rap a ho Kia.
Speaker 4: He was a really nice guy, seemed he told me
Speaker 4: he was going to look into it and get back
Speaker 4: to me. But we got two different stories. So story
Speaker 4: one is from the caller. The caller says, this I
Speaker 4: brought in my twenty thirteen Kiev. I think it's a
Speaker 4: Forte or something and it needs a transmission.
Speaker 5: So they brought it in.
Speaker 4: I had to pay fifteen hundred bucks for them to
Speaker 4: order the transmission, kind of down payment, and the transmission
Speaker 4: came in.
Speaker 5: They put it in and it didn't work.
Speaker 4: They said, there's also a problem with the PCU ECU TCM.
Speaker 5: There's also a problem with a computer.
Speaker 4: So they sent him a text apparently, and it says, okay,
Speaker 4: you need a computer, and he says, okay, I guess.
Speaker 5: So he was upset at this point.
Speaker 4: They sold him a transmission and now that he didn't
Speaker 4: need and now they're going to be selling this but
Speaker 4: whatever for the time being. So they get that in
Speaker 4: and it doesn't work.
Speaker 6: Oops.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so now we have you know, strike too. So
Speaker 4: I end up taking his call and I meet him
Speaker 4: after the show.
Speaker 5: I think it was on a Friday. I remember, oh,
Speaker 5: you were here probably, yeah, of course.
Speaker 4: So I go down to a wrap hokey and I
Speaker 4: meet the guy and I talked to the sales manager
Speaker 4: or not sales manager, the service writers. So I'm talking
Speaker 4: to his service writer and he's like, well, we put
Speaker 4: a transmission in and it did need it, but it
Speaker 4: still needed something else, and so we sold him this.
Speaker 4: They said, wait a minute, but now neither of them
Speaker 4: are working. So what are you going to do next?
Speaker 4: So he tells me face to face. I'm right there
Speaker 4: at the counter. He tells me this. He goes, we're
Speaker 4: putting in a ticket with Kia, and we're kind of
Speaker 4: stuck on it. We're putting a I think they called
Speaker 4: an engineering ticket, and we're putting that in, and then
Speaker 4: he shows it to me on the guy's work order.
Speaker 4: Here's his ticket. We're waiting for them to get back. So,
Speaker 4: like I mean, a long period of time goes by. Meantime,
Speaker 4: this guy hasn't had his car for probably six weeks
Speaker 4: two months at this point so he gets a call
Speaker 4: and they say, well, that first transmission we put in
Speaker 4: wasn't good, so we ended up putting ordering in a
Speaker 4: different rebuilt and putting that in and that one works.
Speaker 4: So the car is ready to go. You can come
Speaker 4: get it. But the problem was on the ticket. They
Speaker 4: still had the TCM, which they shouldn't have wish that
Speaker 4: I don't think was needed. I'm going, why would you
Speaker 4: charge him for this? So they charged him thirteen hundred
Speaker 4: bucks for that. Originally the transmission installed was thirty two hundred,
Speaker 4: you know, plus tax shop supplies, so it's like thirty
Speaker 4: five hundred. But his bill now is like forty five
Speaker 4: hundred because of this TCM in two months three months.
Speaker 4: So it's been three months now. So I finally get
Speaker 4: through to the right people, and honestly, the service manager
Speaker 4: over at a rap ho Key, I left multiple messages,
Speaker 4: not one callback. So I pulled out to Big Guns.
Speaker 4: I've been to the Rockies game and literally sat next
Speaker 4: to Doug Dealan. Doug owns it, and then he brings
Speaker 4: in managing partners that own a piece of it. And
Speaker 4: that's the guy that called me yesterday. I'm not gonna
Speaker 4: bug Doug over something kind of silly like this. All
Speaker 4: I want is to understand why they're charging for this.
Speaker 4: So this guy tells me yesterday and I don't know
Speaker 4: which is true, but he tells me. The way those
Speaker 4: events went down are different than what the guy's telling you.
Speaker 4: So after this break, I'm going to tell you what
Speaker 4: the the operating partner of a rap ho key you
Speaker 4: had to say.
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Speaker 4: Three oh three seven one three eight two five five.
Speaker 4: I pulled a Martino. I just actually opened the show
Speaker 4: for the last twenty seconds, but no one heard me.
Speaker 4: Three oh three seven one three eight two five five.
Speaker 4: Any questions you have anything you want to talk about
Speaker 4: we'd love to hear from you. It's Friday here at
Speaker 4: the Troubleshooter show three oh three Martino three three seven,
Speaker 4: three eight two five five. I want to finish up
Speaker 4: my story on this Kevin. And so after this guy
Speaker 4: drops it off three months.
Speaker 5: Later he picks it up.
Speaker 4: It appears as if they're charging him for a computer
Speaker 4: he doesn't know. So I finally get in touch with somebody,
Speaker 4: no offense to the operations of that store.
Speaker 5: I was very glad to hear from the managing partner.
Speaker 4: But my god, when you leave that many messages and
Speaker 4: we're not on the air, so folks don't think we're
Speaker 4: calling up on the air going come on, you know,
Speaker 4: I'm just leaving.
Speaker 5: Hey, I'm trying to help this guy out. Can you
Speaker 5: give me a callback?
Speaker 4: So I understand this, And remember I was literally there,
Speaker 4: literally there in front of the service writer when the
Speaker 4: service writer was telling these was telling this guy he
Speaker 4: needed the computer, and they put it in and it
Speaker 4: still doesn't work, and they were going to put a
Speaker 4: ticket down. So ultimately, yesterday I talked to the managing partner.
Speaker 4: Here's what he tells me. He says, well, my understanding
Speaker 4: of it is this, we put in the transmission and
Speaker 4: his other one he did need a transmission, but we
Speaker 4: put in the transmission and we still needed to do
Speaker 4: the TCM. So TCU TCM. I'll never forget what is.
Speaker 6: TCM Transmission control model?
Speaker 5: Now I'll remember TCM. So, but listen to this man.
Speaker 4: He tells me they put it in and the reason
Speaker 4: they needed a TCM and a transmission. Now, this is
Speaker 4: only according to a tech or. I don't know who
Speaker 4: told him this, but it's not him. He's not a
Speaker 4: tech sure, and he basically said I was told it
Speaker 4: needed both because the TCM ruined the transmission because it
Speaker 4: was bad, or maybe it was that the transmission ruined
Speaker 4: the TCM. So when Jeff Vick comes in, I'm very curious,
Speaker 4: can a or maybe you.
Speaker 5: Know, can a computer.
Speaker 4: I would think the computer could ruin the transmission, for example,
Speaker 4: not shifting right, telling it to go into third gear
Speaker 4: when it's in fifth and jumping forth.
Speaker 5: But I don't even know if that's possible.
Speaker 6: Sure, and that's all programming, but I mean, it would
Speaker 6: have to be some sort of a direct short in
Speaker 6: the transmission that would electrically fry a component in the computer.
Speaker 4: So the transmission. So this is what I got to ask, Jeff.
Speaker 4: If we look at the two old things, which I
Speaker 4: don't even know sure, First of all, it's impossible, and
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. Because the original transmission we're three
Speaker 4: deep now. The original transmission has already been Cord, there's
Speaker 4: no doubt about it.
Speaker 5: And we know this set. We know the.
Speaker 4: Second his original transmission is CORD. The second transmission that
Speaker 4: was no good, I'm sure was already sent back because
Speaker 4: that was under warranty for the dealer, and then the
Speaker 4: third one.
Speaker 5: So I don't think we'll ever see the parts.
Speaker 4: And if we did, my god, you would have to
Speaker 4: spend all that time putting them back into the.
Speaker 6: Car forensics and everything on it. Yet, oh you.
Speaker 5: Would spend way more than what the car was worth.
Speaker 6: In my opinion, it's very very unlikely.
Speaker 4: And I'm hoping so this guy was going to look
Speaker 4: into it and call me back. Look, man, when Jim
Speaker 4: and Andy ran, they used to be in here on
Speaker 4: car Fridays.
Speaker 5: You met him numerous times.
Speaker 4: When these guys were running dealing dudge store in Colorado
Speaker 4: Springs before he sold it the Dodge Colorado Springs Dodge.
Speaker 5: We never had a problem.
Speaker 4: In fact, if we ever had any other issue, including
Speaker 4: this Kia store, those guys would make a call for us.
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm not saying they're wrong in this.
Speaker 4: I'm saying it doesn't smell right no matter what. So
Speaker 4: I'm hoping they get it figured out. But here's the
Speaker 4: deal man. I'm hoping to hear back from them. I'm
Speaker 4: hoping to update this guy. And I just don't know
Speaker 4: what else to say. My gut says because I was
Speaker 4: there in the chain of events this partner is telling
Speaker 4: me don't match up because I was literally in front
Speaker 4: of his sales guy.
Speaker 6: Well, how did they diagnose the TCM in a bad
Speaker 6: transmission if the first one was bad? No idea, that's what.
Speaker 6: It doesn't sound right.
Speaker 4: It doesn't sound right at all. But I'm hoping we
Speaker 4: get to worked out for the guy. This guy doesn't
Speaker 4: have a lot of money, but even if he did it,
Speaker 4: I mean, it's the principle of the matter. And I
Speaker 4: have a feeling once they program those I don't know
Speaker 4: when a dealership buys something, and I'll go to the
Speaker 4: phones in a second. We have two lines open now
Speaker 4: three zero three, Martino. But when a dealership did you
Speaker 4: ever work in a dealership?
Speaker 5: Yep?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: So when the when the parts people order a TCU
Speaker 4: or or a TCM, or if they order any form
Speaker 4: of computer for the car or module, can they return
Speaker 4: those back or are they stuck? Because when I had
Speaker 4: my good years, if we ordered a computer, it was
Speaker 4: our computer.
Speaker 5: So if it didn't fix it.
Speaker 6: They have test modules all over the dealership.
Speaker 5: So they yeah, okay, I got you.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 4: It's different than when you have your own Is it
Speaker 4: still the same? If you order a TCM from a
Speaker 4: dealership for one of your customers, you own it.
Speaker 6: I own it. Every once in a while I can
Speaker 6: get away with send it back, but we don't try. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's just not even worth it.
Speaker 5: Hey LJ. What's going on with this water here?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 9: New Year's Eve, I had uh no water, hot water.
Speaker 9: So we found out that it was the control valve
Speaker 9: just based off of the air. So I had somebody
Speaker 9: come out.
Speaker 10: Around the second of January and put in a new
Speaker 10: control valve. Shortly after that, we started seeing red water
Speaker 10: coming out of the flocets while we're running it.
Speaker 11: Hot wow, So I went down and drained the hot
Speaker 11: water heater and a little.
Speaker 9: Four years old, okay, And so it's a brand new house,
Speaker 9: has a PEX plumbing, and so drained the water heater.
Speaker 9: I didn't put in an anode because I thought, just
Speaker 9: based off of the training, the water heater would work.
Speaker 9: But now it's not as reddish. It's like a like
Speaker 9: a clay color, if you will.
Speaker 5: But you're sounding none of this.
Speaker 4: So so when this control valve went out, and by
Speaker 4: the way, for people listening, I mean that basically regulates
Speaker 4: the flow of gas or cooling or whatever through the
Speaker 4: water heater. I assume yours is a gas control valve.
Speaker 9: That's correct.
Speaker 5: I have no idea why.
Speaker 4: That would turn that water red, but you self diagnose
Speaker 4: that that was the only problem at the time, right,
Speaker 4: So you had a fault like the like the light
Speaker 4: was blinking four times or whatever, and you looked it off.
Speaker 4: It was a control valve.
Speaker 9: Yep, that's correct.
Speaker 5: Was there anything else? Hold on?
Speaker 4: Was there anything else going on? Was there any symptoms
Speaker 4: besides the light blinking? Was it not producing hot water?
Speaker 9: That's correct? Yeah, So the kids woke up New Year's
Speaker 9: Eve and had no hot water. So we had to
Speaker 9: wait because New York' date was closed, so we didn't
Speaker 9: have any hot water until the third or the fourth
Speaker 9: of January when they came in and replaced the valve.
Speaker 5: Man, that's an absolute trip. Let's get on.
Speaker 4: So at this point right now, I mean till this day,
Speaker 4: if you run hot water on this four year old
Speaker 4: water heater, you're actually getting a red tint to the water.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 9: So if I put the way we look at it was.
Speaker 4: I don't think a diode would do that either, unless
Speaker 4: the minerals, unless you have some crazy minerals. Here's what
Speaker 4: I want to do. Let's get Paul, the waterman on.
Speaker 4: I want to talk to Paul for two reasons. I'd
Speaker 4: call a normal plumber, if you will, but this is
Speaker 4: a little outside of that. Hold on, man, I'm going
Speaker 4: to get one of our experts on, because if anybody's
Speaker 4: seen this before, it's gonna be Paul and then Truman.
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Speaker 4: Man, I'm trying to get to the bottom of this,
Speaker 4: uh this mystery. We're gonna talk to some different plumbers.
Speaker 4: We're gonna talk to Bob Logan. But basically LJ called in.
Speaker 4: He had a control valve replaced because a high water
Speaker 4: heater wasn't working. It was only four years old. I mean,
Speaker 4: it's pretty new water heater. He also drained it and
Speaker 4: filled it. But after doing all that stuff well before
Speaker 4: he drained it and filled it, and I'm pulling up
Speaker 4: Bob Logan with plumbline.
Speaker 5: Hey Bob, what's going on?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 5: How are you doing?
Speaker 2: Sir?
Speaker 5: I'm doing well, mark you today, I'm doing good.
Speaker 4: So after this guy gets a control valve installed by
Speaker 4: some company and the water heater starts working again, it's
Speaker 4: heating up water.
Speaker 5: There's no problem.
Speaker 4: What happens is the water is red. Let me lock
Speaker 4: you in, Hey, LJ, before you drained and filled it.
Speaker 4: How red are we talking? I mean, give me an idea,
Speaker 4: like a couple drops of the red dye into a
Speaker 4: bottled water.
Speaker 9: No, I'll give you our Some plays baseball. So when
Speaker 9: he slides in that red clay dirt, he took his
Speaker 9: clothes and it's that red.
Speaker 5: Got it?
Speaker 9: It was? You could see it. It's transparent, but it
Speaker 9: was red, like if you were soaking dirty glove.
Speaker 4: And then Bob after he drains it and fills it. Hey,
Speaker 4: how long was it sitting there broke by.
Speaker 5: The way LJ.
Speaker 9: About three or four days?
Speaker 4: So prior to that there was no red at all anywhere? No, No,
Speaker 4: so Bob, no red at all. He drains it and
Speaker 4: fills it. And now it's not a red by any stretch,
Speaker 4: but it's still got a tin of red to it.
Speaker 5: What the hell could it? How could a control valve?
Speaker 4: I don't think a control valve would have anything to
Speaker 4: do with that, right, I mean, what do you think, Bob.
Speaker 8: No control valve wouldn't have anything to do with that?
Speaker 8: Is is he on a well by chance?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 9: We're a city of thorn and water. We have a
Speaker 9: water software from the water pros attached which we got
Speaker 9: for a couple of years.
Speaker 6: I agree.
Speaker 9: I don't think it's the control valve. The only thing
Speaker 9: I can think of is when the guy changed it,
Speaker 9: he didn't drain it all the way he would stats
Speaker 9: enough to. He drained a little bit right, got it low,
Speaker 9: put the new valve in. Some water came out, So
Speaker 9: I don't know if that yeah, but put everything off
Speaker 9: the bottom. But I drained it and got a lot
Speaker 9: of sediment out.
Speaker 4: But guys, why if there was no redness prior to that,
Speaker 4: only three days before, whether he drained any of it
Speaker 4: out to do the control valver all of it out?
Speaker 5: Where the hell did the red come from?
Speaker 8: Well, it could be from the sediment that was in
Speaker 8: the bottom of the tank. Mark they got mixed up.
Speaker 8: And now it's just settling.
Speaker 4: I see what you're saying, So, Bob, when a hot
Speaker 4: water heater is up and functioning for years in your house,
Speaker 4: all that sediment's going to go to the bottom. But
Speaker 4: when this I possibly drained some of it, not all
Speaker 4: of it. Installed, the new valve, fired it back up,
Speaker 4: It started filling itself back up to the top, kicks
Speaker 4: on the gas. It could have mixed all together, and
Speaker 4: now you have the red.
Speaker 8: That's that's my my thoughts. So so my suggestion like,
Speaker 8: how long has this been going on?
Speaker 5: For four years? Bob? Is that right? No? No, no,
Speaker 5: no years.
Speaker 9: So no, that's who old the water heater is. The
Speaker 9: issue has been going on since we repleased it, and
Speaker 9: so I have to put a new anode in anyway.
Speaker 9: That was one of the other things I was going
Speaker 9: to try to do. I don't have any issues draining it.
Speaker 9: And when I drained it, the initial I would say
Speaker 9: five or six gallons, oh maybe five gallons have that
Speaker 9: redness to it when I was draining it. But then
Speaker 9: I sat there for quite quite a while once it
Speaker 9: was completely empty, turning on the cold water, having it
Speaker 9: kind of uh, just rup what everyone's at the bottom.
Speaker 9: And I did that on and off for about an hour,
Speaker 9: you know, fill it for about ten seconds, drain it,
Speaker 9: fill it for another ten drain it. And I did
Speaker 9: that for I started at six in the morning with
Speaker 9: Don right before the Bronco game.
Speaker 4: Hey, Bob, is there any way on these Is there
Speaker 4: any way on these water heaters? Like I'll give you
Speaker 4: an idea of what I'm asking on our bus when
Speaker 4: we want to clean out the.
Speaker 5: Gray tank or the black tank.
Speaker 4: We can basically hit a certain button, it'll redirect the
Speaker 4: water and it'll spray around inside the tank for a
Speaker 4: while and just clean the heck out of it. Man,
Speaker 4: Do water heaters have any place you can connect a
Speaker 4: hose or do something to where they're going to clean
Speaker 4: themselves and then you can drain it.
Speaker 8: No, nothing'll so I mean to, you know, try to
Speaker 8: drain it again and then and then you know.
Speaker 5: Go to use it.
Speaker 8: So chances are, if you know your water filter is
Speaker 8: working properly, you're not on the well and it happened,
Speaker 8: you know, and it's just short term. I would just
Speaker 8: continue to run it and it should clear up over time.
Speaker 8: It might take again, if that settiment has kind of
Speaker 8: floating around there, Yeah, it might take a little call
Speaker 8: for that to settle. But but again, you're it's that's
Speaker 8: that's about my only guest there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what else could it be? I never thought about
Speaker 5: that with the sediment.
Speaker 4: I have never We've owned homes for thirty years and
Speaker 4: I've never had red water.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, it's nuts, man, But okay, I mean I appreciate
Speaker 4: that that makes a lot of sense. In fact, it's
Speaker 4: very logical too. He's just got to continue to, you know,
Speaker 4: drain it, fill it back up, drain it, fill it
Speaker 4: back up, run some water, and it is going to
Speaker 4: go away. But you're you're kind of it is interesting
Speaker 4: with a water system in there as well. I wonder
Speaker 4: why the water system and that would be a question
Speaker 4: for Paul. Why the softener isn't helping out with this.
Speaker 8: Well and it and it should Again, there's a different
Speaker 8: a filter and a softener. I'm not sure.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure he.
Speaker 5: Has installed there, And yeah, that's true, and of.
Speaker 8: Course those should be coming in before the water heater.
Speaker 8: If he was installed installed after the water heater, he's
Speaker 8: not going to do any good. And so, uh, you know,
Speaker 8: it's it's hard to say. But the other possibility, my
Speaker 8: plumber said, but I don't think this is it, because
Speaker 8: it would have had in these these challenges before, is
Speaker 8: that if if it was installed using fittings, the wrong
Speaker 8: fittings that allowed electrolysis to happen, then then that that
Speaker 8: could cause a similar problem.
Speaker 4: How much do you guys, typically speaking, how much do
Speaker 4: you guys charge if this guy called you up directly
Speaker 4: over at plumb Line Services and said, here's what's going on,
Speaker 4: how do you guys typically charge for a plumb service call?
Speaker 4: And the reason I asked that is not just for
Speaker 4: this call. You know, over the next three days there
Speaker 4: are so many people that aren't gonna simply undo the
Speaker 4: hose from the hose bib outside, and they're going to
Speaker 4: have frozen and broken pipes in everything. Typically speaking, maybe
Speaker 4: not on an emergency when it's below zero for three days,
Speaker 4: but typically speaking, what do you guys charge to put
Speaker 4: a licensed plumber into a truck and send them out
Speaker 4: for a diagnosis.
Speaker 8: Well, the price, the price is the same regardless of
Speaker 8: whether it's freezing, whether or not it's forty nine dollars
Speaker 8: can normal that just two hundred dollars after hours. But
Speaker 8: and when they get there, they'll they'll do a visual
Speaker 8: diagnostic of everything. You know, they'll ask you the questions
Speaker 8: through some some test to a visual diagnostic. You know,
Speaker 8: if like for example, on a on pipes frozen or
Speaker 8: something like that, they got to starting drywall, they're doing
Speaker 8: further diagnosis and over those charges. But just get a
Speaker 8: professional there and you can get the rise.
Speaker 4: On forty nine bucks. Yeah, yeah, you can't beat that.
Speaker 4: Plumb line services. You see these guys everywhere. I think
Speaker 4: the In fact, you guys are the largest home services
Speaker 4: company in Colorado, aren't you, Bob?
Speaker 6: We are now Mark?
Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, you know impressive.
Speaker 8: It was always just to be the best and yeah,
Speaker 8: and over the last five years.
Speaker 5: One follows the other.
Speaker 4: Though, when when you were set out to be the best,
Speaker 4: not necessarily the biggest, most of the time you become
Speaker 4: the biggest because you set out to be the best.
Speaker 8: Well that's I think that's what's happened. And you know,
Speaker 8: we're certainly not perfect, but we strive.
Speaker 4: And I'll give your phone number out at the end
Speaker 4: for people. But one one question for everybody listening. What's
Speaker 4: the number one you call you get after we have
Speaker 4: three days like literally below zero We're talking negative ten fifteen,
Speaker 4: just extreme cold for a long period of time.
Speaker 5: Is the number one call? Broken pipes?
Speaker 4: And I assume what happens is they're still frozen, but
Speaker 4: they're not getting any water.
Speaker 5: I mean, what is that number one call in this
Speaker 5: kind of cold?
Speaker 8: You're exactly right, So the first thing that's going to
Speaker 8: happen is the pipes are going to freeze and you're
Speaker 8: not going to have water.
Speaker 5: And chances are.
Speaker 13: If that happens that.
Speaker 8: Freeze broke the pipe someplace, and then after it starts thawing,
Speaker 8: it's going to start flooding someplace somewhere.
Speaker 5: So you better be really careful.
Speaker 8: So I would recommend, like you said, make sure your
Speaker 8: hoses are disconnected over the next several days, open up
Speaker 8: the cabinets underneath the sinks, especially if they're on an
Speaker 8: outside wall. Allow that warm air to come in from
Speaker 8: the house colder is not trapped in there. Maybe even
Speaker 8: like you know, Sunday night, Monday, when it's going to
Speaker 8: get to single digits, just drip your faucet, turn the
Speaker 8: hot water on just as a drip to eat that
Speaker 8: warm water flowing through there.
Speaker 5: And then hose pibs.
Speaker 4: My god, if you have a hose connected outside disconnected.
Speaker 8: Yes, because not only are you going to get the
Speaker 8: flooding on the outside, but that's going to break it
Speaker 8: on the inside and you're going to it's gonna flood
Speaker 8: your house.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you something else people should do, Bob
Speaker 4: big time. They should go figure out where their shut
Speaker 4: off is if they don't know. If you don't know
Speaker 4: where the main shut off is, you better go find
Speaker 4: it because if you got water flying out from under
Speaker 4: the kitchen sink all of a sudden, and you got
Speaker 4: to go Google or try to figure out where it
Speaker 4: is you need to do that.
Speaker 5: You need to know where the hell it is. That's right.
Speaker 8: Every every house has one main shut off, typically in
Speaker 8: your basement that'll shut out the water to the entire
Speaker 8: house and to your point if if your pipees freeze
Speaker 8: or if they're you know, if you're not getting if
Speaker 8: you're not getting water, that means your pipes are frozen.
Speaker 8: You have to shut that belve off so that when
Speaker 8: they do though, you're not flooding your house. And get
Speaker 8: a get a professional plumb out there, sap All.
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Speaker 4: they've been out. They have done a lot of work
Speaker 4: for me. I mean, like over the years, quite a
Speaker 4: bit of work. They've actually helped me out a lot.
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Speaker 3: Six is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martino, Hi.
Speaker 5: Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show. Three oh three
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Speaker 5: five Here to help you solve problems, answer questions, stay complaints,
Speaker 5: make your life a little easier. As you can see
Speaker 5: if you are streaming. I got my uglies in the
Speaker 5: studio and one pretty one pretty you figure it out.
Speaker 5: The risk of came. In fact, you should, yeah, Jeff should,
Speaker 5: Jeff vic should switch places with Sus at this point
Speaker 5: because there's too much Jeff, not enough Sus. But it's
Speaker 5: okay anyway, and then I wouldn't be laughing Kevin. Okay,
Speaker 5: never mind say three three seven one, three eight two five. Now, guys,
Speaker 5: you know, I know you didn't discuss this a lot.
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna go to Bethel, of course, because uh
Speaker 5: calls always take precedent, So I'm gonna do that. And
Speaker 5: then I am just shocked. Do you realize this is
Speaker 5: the first time in history, It will be the first
Speaker 5: time in history when a public form of some kind
Speaker 5: has been shut down in America. You know, they've been
Speaker 5: doing that all over the country, all over the world,
Speaker 5: like in Charina and Russia. Yeah, it's major to me.
Speaker 5: And I'm of the thought that, you know, complete and open,
Speaker 5: except that I don't take into considerations something I may
Speaker 5: or may not know. And see they're not saying they're
Speaker 5: shutting it down because of the expression on there that
Speaker 5: has nothing to do with it, not the content. They're
Speaker 5: saying it's a spy app. But what could it possibly
Speaker 5: gather that would help that would be against you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. Can I do understand it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Go ahead? Well what are they what are they afraid of? Well,
Speaker 4: they're afraid of everything. The amount of information that TikTok grabs.
Speaker 4: TikTok knows everything. If that app is running, which on
Speaker 4: most people that have it, it's running everywhere.
Speaker 5: They know where you go.
Speaker 4: They know your location, they know how long you hang
Speaker 4: out at the bowling Alley, they know what restaurants you
Speaker 4: go to, they know what.
Speaker 6: So does Google Maps as far as that's concerned.
Speaker 4: Say that again, Jeff, here's what I want to know.
Speaker 4: What will that do? But wait, Jeff, that's a perfect example.
Speaker 4: So does Google Maps. But so does if you have
Speaker 4: a tesla. But but the Chinese government doesn't have access
Speaker 4: to Google Maps. That's the difference. They know where everything
Speaker 4: is going on. Then what happens is, say an election's
Speaker 4: coming up, they can say, oh, okay, well everybody on
Speaker 4: TikTok that you know goes to a liquor store twice
Speaker 4: a week. I'm totally making stuff up. But so people
Speaker 4: get an idea of what they could target. We want
Speaker 4: to target all these people before the election that Joe
Speaker 4: Blow is going to outlaw liquor. They can start, they
Speaker 4: can start running ads against whatever they don't want to happen.
Speaker 4: Because they have all the data on everybody, so can Facebook, Facebook.
Speaker 5: To the Chinese government. So you're wait a minute, So
Speaker 5: you're saying that the information gathering is not the problem,
Speaker 5: it's who's getting the information.
Speaker 4: Well, a lot of people would say both, but not me.
Speaker 4: I've already given up the dream of my life is
Speaker 4: private in this world. So but no, the problem is
Speaker 4: it's who owns it. It's our adversary. It's not Zuckerberg,
Speaker 4: it's Red China.
Speaker 5: Man. Wow, wow, I don't know. I mean, it's just
Speaker 5: shocking to me. I don't I personally don't think there's
Speaker 5: anything they can glean from an app that would be
Speaker 5: dangerous to national security.
Speaker 4: I just told you they once they have all the
Speaker 4: information if they didn't want Trump, they have demographics.
Speaker 5: They have demographics.
Speaker 4: My god, Tom, you I bet TikTok can tell them
Speaker 4: every time someone opens up a porn site. I bet
Speaker 4: if you're on TikTok, they know anything you ever do.
Speaker 4: Go to any restaurant and look around at anytime people
Speaker 4: are on their phone twenty four to seven and whatever
Speaker 4: they're doing, whatever they're whatever they're doing. I'm telling you
Speaker 4: at this point, China knows about it, and that is
Speaker 4: scary as hell.
Speaker 5: I just have a quick question, mark, Yes, what is
Speaker 5: the porn site? I don't know.
Speaker 4: I've never seen. I've only heard of one. It's either
Speaker 4: a porn hub.
Speaker 5: Bethel, Bethel, what's going on with you?
Speaker 15: Hi?
Speaker 12: I'm just running into an issue with my city. They
Speaker 12: won't let me do a short term lease at my house,
Speaker 12: and the city has stopped me, and I decided to
Speaker 12: sue them, and I still won't get my license even
Speaker 12: if I.
Speaker 5: What city, Bethel guilty? City of Laundry, Bethy, Bethel, Bethel,
Speaker 5: what city the city of Laundree? Okay, So you live
Speaker 5: in Loan Tree and you own a home or a
Speaker 5: somewhere you want to rent.
Speaker 12: I own a home and I'm trying to do a business.
Speaker 12: It's a short term rental business.
Speaker 5: You want to do like vacation home by owner something
Speaker 5: like that. Well, they I'm looking it up now.
Speaker 4: But if they don't allow short term rentals usually defined
Speaker 4: it under thirty one days, I mean, then they don't
Speaker 4: allow them.
Speaker 5: There's nothing you're going to do to change it.
Speaker 12: We had our license well before they made that rule.
Speaker 4: And well, hold on, if the speed limits sixty five
Speaker 4: and they change it to seventy five, that doesn't even hold.
Speaker 5: On, hold on, I want to I want to explore this.
Speaker 5: What do you mean you had a license? I didn't
Speaker 5: know they required that in loan trade, So explain that
Speaker 5: to me first.
Speaker 12: So we had a license, we submitted an application and
Speaker 12: this happened back in twenty twenty three, and they told
Speaker 12: us that we are missing documents or there was a
Speaker 12: missing paper, and so we Were.
Speaker 5: You ever granted? Yeah? But this is what I need
Speaker 5: to know. Bethy. You said you had a license. Were
Speaker 5: you actually ever granted a license?
Speaker 12: Yes?
Speaker 5: And when was that license in effect?
Speaker 12: That was, I believe the year before twenty twenty three.
Speaker 4: And Tom, here's what it said you had it for.
Speaker 4: It says short term. But I want to know about
Speaker 4: her situation.
Speaker 5: Mark. I'll get to that, I promise you. I know
Speaker 5: I appreciate you looking that up. So bet Bethel in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, you were doing short term rentals.
Speaker 12: We've been doing short term rentals since maybe twenty sixteen,
Speaker 12: twenty seventeen.
Speaker 5: Okay, hold on and then Bethel in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 5: that was the only year you had a license, Is
Speaker 5: that right?
Speaker 12: I'm not sure my mom has been doing taking care
Speaker 12: of the license, but I do.
Speaker 5: Know that we have been in twenty twenty three. You're
Speaker 5: not sure if you had one in twenty twenty three
Speaker 5: or twenty twenty four.
Speaker 6: Is that right?
Speaker 12: We submitted one in twenty twenty three May twenty twenty three,
Speaker 12: and they told us that we were missing documents, and
Speaker 12: we said why didn't to inform us? And they were like,
Speaker 12: it's not our fall, you won't get the license, And
Speaker 12: so we tried to get submit a new application. They
Speaker 12: wouldn't let us.
Speaker 5: So, okay, got it. Listen to this ready. They would
Speaker 5: not accept your application for twenty twenty three. Yes, and
Speaker 5: what about twenty twenty four.
Speaker 12: We have a license in twenty twenty four, but we're
Speaker 12: not allowed to rent since we didn't have one technically.
Speaker 5: No, wait a minute, you just said you had a
Speaker 5: license in twenty twenty four, we do.
Speaker 12: We technically have a license. We have a license that
Speaker 12: we submitted, and they won't accept it.
Speaker 5: Well, that's what I'm getting at. Before Mark goes on,
Speaker 5: I just so, you only had a license in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two. In your opinion, you had a license in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four, but they never
Speaker 5: really reissued the license for twenty twenty three and twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four. It was just in your opinion. Is that correct?
Speaker 12: Well, it's not in our opinion. We submitted it, and
Speaker 12: we have, like the document proof that we did submit it.
Speaker 15: And then I'm not talking.
Speaker 5: About that, Bethel. Bethel, Listen, when you go through procedures,
Speaker 5: you got to accept things in the form asking you
Speaker 5: if you agree you never obtained an actual official license
Speaker 5: for twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four except in
Speaker 5: your opinion.
Speaker 12: I don't understand.
Speaker 5: Okay, Bethel, I'm gonna put it this way. If you
Speaker 5: had a license in twenty twenty three and twenty twenty four,
Speaker 5: we wouldn't be on the phone right now.
Speaker 7: Correct.
Speaker 5: The reason you're the reason you're on the phone is
Speaker 5: they are not acknowledging that you are licensed.
Speaker 12: Okay, Correct, Okay.
Speaker 5: Now, Bethel, I want I want to ask you a
Speaker 5: simple question that I want Mark to unload his research.
Speaker 5: The simple question is this, are there other landlords right
Speaker 5: now in loan Tree that do have acknowledged licenses and
Speaker 5: are renting short term?
Speaker 12: I'm not sure if they have licenses. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 12: they have to, but there are other people renting in
Speaker 12: the country.
Speaker 4: Okay, Mark, what did you find out? Well, it's real simple, man.
Speaker 4: So they basically banned short term rentals like airbnbvrbo anything
Speaker 4: like that. But here's what it says.
Speaker 5: Even with a license. Mark, listen, here's what it says.
Speaker 4: Short term rentals that were established prior to March eighth,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three are permitted to continue their operations provided
Speaker 4: they operate with a city business license, remitted tax returns
Speaker 4: for the past three years of operation, and obtained a
Speaker 4: permit by May seventh.
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty three. She didn't do that, apparently, Bethel, did
Speaker 5: you do that?
Speaker 12: I mean, we weren't informed about all of these licenses.
Speaker 12: All we knew is that we needed to have a
Speaker 12: short term mental license.
Speaker 4: Did you guys have your doubt Chaska, when you guys
Speaker 4: did your Airbnb or VRBO or whatever you did. For example,
Speaker 4: are they on your tax returns anywhere? Or you could
Speaker 4: prove that you did it for three years? Or were
Speaker 4: you pocketing the money or how did that work? And
Speaker 4: did you have as Tom asked you one hundred times,
Speaker 4: did you actually have a license any of those years?
Speaker 12: Yes, we did, we did the text. No, she did
Speaker 12: directly and everything.
Speaker 5: She just had it for twenty twenty three. Mark, Okay,
Speaker 5: I'm convinced of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and she did, and she did obtain the permit
Speaker 4: by May seventh, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: I mean that's two years ago, almost right. So okay,
Speaker 5: so what do we do about this? You said you
Speaker 5: sued them? What does that mean?
Speaker 12: Well, we sued them because they were not preventing. They
Speaker 12: were not allowing us to run, even though we did
Speaker 12: apply for the license and everything. And so our lawyers
Speaker 12: told us that we can either plead guilty or guilty
Speaker 12: because they were finding us for renting even though they
Speaker 12: said we didn't have a license. And so they said,
Speaker 12: we can either plead guilty or not guilty, and if
Speaker 12: we plead guilty, we don't get the license. If we
Speaker 12: don't plead guilty, you don't get the license, and so
Speaker 12: we don't win in the situation either way, and so
Speaker 12: we wanted to city for determination.
Speaker 5: Well, it's pretty hard to know. First of all, there's
Speaker 5: no such thing that the defamation does not it does
Speaker 5: enter into this at all. There is no definite I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm not an attorney here, but I'm telling you there
Speaker 5: there is. Tell me, what do you mean by defamation? Well,
Speaker 5: how are they defaming you?
Speaker 12: They were allowed?
Speaker 5: Let's not even go ahead.
Speaker 12: No, I mean, if you want to answer the questions
Speaker 12: for me, go ahead.
Speaker 5: No, I'm asking you how are they defaming you? I'm
Speaker 5: not trying to be as smart as I would ask
Speaker 5: that you not be either. Okay, I'm trying to help you,
Speaker 5: but I think that you have an opinion and you
Speaker 5: feel everyone should agree with it, and I'm trying to
Speaker 5: give you an objective look to help you, not to
Speaker 5: hurt you. So I'm asking you, how did the city
Speaker 5: defame you.
Speaker 12: By not letting us have our license?
Speaker 5: That's not defamation. Defamation is this. Here's what defamation is.
Speaker 5: Bethel and her family are disgusting. Bethel and her family
Speaker 5: are disgusting, and they shouldn't have rentals because they don't
Speaker 5: know how to treat people and they are criminals. That's defamation.
Speaker 5: That's what defamation is. It's not refusing to allow you
Speaker 5: to have a license because you think you should have one,
Speaker 5: but getting right to the point of suing this city.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's so costly and you're not going to change.
Speaker 4: You're not going to change what's happening right now. Did
Speaker 4: you guys actually hire an attorney to try to get
Speaker 4: the license or the only reason the attorney was involved
Speaker 4: is because they were finding you.
Speaker 12: No, we actually tried. We got a lawyer to help
Speaker 12: with define and to help us get the license.
Speaker 4: And they still denied it. Yes, I don't know where
Speaker 4: you would go from there, Tom, any ideas. I mean,
Speaker 4: if a lawyer's not going to get it done.
Speaker 5: And a judge actually said it, I think I'd like
Speaker 5: to know the reasons they're being turned down. I think
Speaker 5: she has a right to know that.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 4: I think the reasons they're exactly what I read. I mean,
Speaker 4: she did not obtain a permit by May seventh, twenty
Speaker 4: twenty three, two years ago.
Speaker 5: But does that mean that right now, no new applications.
Speaker 5: If she wanted to start over, she can't do that. No,
Speaker 5: it's done. Man, that doesn't seem fair.
Speaker 4: It's only grandfathered people that it appears. It's only grandfathered
Speaker 4: people that had been bus in business were short term
Speaker 4: rentals in loan Tree for three years prior that actually
Speaker 4: went out and got the city business license and got
Speaker 4: the new permit, the grandfathered permit by May seventh, twenty
Speaker 4: twenty three.
Speaker 5: So they're saying, if you didn't do it, you can
Speaker 5: never do it. Yeah, in this thing doesn't sound right.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, if you don't move there, if you move
Speaker 4: there now, you cannot do short term rentals no matter what.
Speaker 5: Okay, So you could have been grandfathered in, but she
Speaker 5: didn't do it properly.
Speaker 4: Well, if that's what I keep asking, and you kept asking,
Speaker 4: what I'm trying to figure out is it says listen
Speaker 4: again at the callers short term rentals that were established
Speaker 4: prior to March eighth, twenty twenty three. So first of all,
Speaker 4: did you guys rent this out prior to March eighth?
Speaker 6: Yes?
Speaker 12: Or no, we're reventing before March eighth, yes.
Speaker 5: Twenty twenty three?
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, did you operate with the city business this
Speaker 4: license not?
Speaker 5: Did you try to get one? And didn't. But did
Speaker 5: you literally have a city business license.
Speaker 4: At that time prior to March twenty twenty three, yes,
Speaker 4: and then you remitted taxes for the past three years. Yes,
Speaker 4: and then by May seventh, twenty twenty three, you obtained
Speaker 4: a permit or you tried to obtain a permit.
Speaker 12: Yes, he tried.
Speaker 4: So why did they deny it the first time? Why
Speaker 4: did they say no the first time? Then let's come
Speaker 4: back to this. Let's come back to this and find out.
Speaker 4: I want to ask Brad O'Brien. I'd like Brad O'Brien
Speaker 4: to come on and at least give her. She's a
Speaker 4: he's a real estate attorney, Bethel that might weigh in
Speaker 4: on this, okay, and I could.
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Speaker 5: three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Artino
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Speaker 5: three seven one three eight two five five. Brad O'Brien
Speaker 5: olslaw dot com. It's O'Brien Legal Services, O'Brien Legal Services,
Speaker 5: and I'll give his number out after the call. Listen, Brad,
Speaker 5: have you been getting many calls from people who want
Speaker 5: to do short term rentals and a lot of cities
Speaker 5: are shutting those down? Uh?
Speaker 16: Yeah, Tom, they are becoming more regulated, and yeah, Denver
Speaker 16: and some other Mountain towns are definitely regulating them and
Speaker 16: requiring licensing.
Speaker 5: Now, loan Tree went one step further. As I understand it,
Speaker 5: they not only required licensing, but that's only for grandfathering
Speaker 5: in those who had been doing it, and they will
Speaker 5: allow no new licenses. Is that what I understand? Mark?
Speaker 5: Is that what it was is that you readily so
Speaker 5: Brad Bethel said she's had a license once in twenty
Speaker 5: twenty three and they would not grandfather her. Now you know, Bethel,
Speaker 5: did you actually sue the city? At first? I want
Speaker 5: to ask that you said you did. Did you actually
Speaker 5: file a lawsuit?
Speaker 17: Yes?
Speaker 5: Did you lose or win?
Speaker 12: Well, it's not finished yet. They want me to plead guilty,
Speaker 12: and my lawyers want me to plead guilty. So then
Speaker 12: I just pay a one time one thousand for all
Speaker 12: the fines that I thought when I was renting when
Speaker 12: they told.
Speaker 17: Me not to.
Speaker 5: Okay, So did you bring this lawsuit or did the
Speaker 5: city bring it? When you say guilty, did the city
Speaker 5: find you and that's what you sued about?
Speaker 12: Yes, well we find them, so there's multiple cases. We
Speaker 12: find them about the fine, wet them, sue them for
Speaker 12: the fines, and then we all sue them for the
Speaker 12: rent the license, and then they did my lawyers put
Speaker 12: them all under one case, one big case.
Speaker 5: So you're suing to get the fines dismissed and to
Speaker 5: rein say your license basically, yes, where does it stand
Speaker 5: in the courts right now?
Speaker 12: I'm not sure my mom is dealing with all of that.
Speaker 12: I'm calling on her behalf.
Speaker 5: Okay, So you're not sure where it stands? Okay, so
Speaker 5: you called today to find out what, Brad, I guess
Speaker 5: you're going to say, you know, the courts have it.
Speaker 5: Let him decide, right, I mean, she was she was
Speaker 5: obviously fined for she kept doing it after twenty twenty
Speaker 5: three when they did not renew her license, and Mark said,
Speaker 5: one of the reasons they probably did not renew her
Speaker 5: license was because she was required to do a few things. Mark,
Speaker 5: what was that?
Speaker 4: Well, she had to submit three years of tax returns
Speaker 4: where I guess that rental property income would be on there.
Speaker 4: She had to prove that, you know, she was licensed
Speaker 4: to do it, and then I guess at most most
Speaker 4: important part I was reading, is it all had to
Speaker 4: be done before May seventh, twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: Brad.
Speaker 4: Here's what it says. It's the City of Loane Tree's website.
Speaker 4: It says short term rentals were established prior short term
Speaker 4: rentals that were established prior to March eight, twenty twenty three,
Speaker 4: are permitted to continue their operations provided they operate with
Speaker 4: the city business license, remitted taxes for the past three
Speaker 4: years of operation, and obtained a permit by May seventh,
Speaker 4: twenty twenty three.
Speaker 5: Well, it's evident, so she must have not done that, exactly,
Speaker 5: she must have not. Are you claiming you did all
Speaker 5: of that and they still turned you down? Yes, you
Speaker 5: actually submitted everything they asked for.
Speaker 12: We submitted everything they asked for. What the application? And
Speaker 12: then they told us that we were missing documents? And
Speaker 12: then we were asking what's done?
Speaker 5: What did they say? Hold on, hold on, don't don't,
Speaker 5: don't go over that. What were you missing?
Speaker 12: I'm not one hundred percent sure they told my mom
Speaker 12: that she was missing some Can.
Speaker 5: We talk to your mom?
Speaker 12: You can call her?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we want to. Hey, Brad, just can you weigh
Speaker 5: in on these kinds of cases and where they go
Speaker 5: and what what is your overall impression? You've heard as
Speaker 5: much as we did.
Speaker 16: Yeah, the city is do have the right to regulate
Speaker 16: term rentals in their jurisdictions, and they can require licensing,
Speaker 16: and they can have requirements.
Speaker 13: To get those licenses.
Speaker 6: And you basically have to follow the steps.
Speaker 5: I mean, that's it in a nutshell, isn't it. I mean, really,
Speaker 5: if they're saying she didn't, she says she did. I mean,
Speaker 5: so whether she I'm gonna I'm gonna lean towards she
Speaker 5: probably didn't. Not because I'm against you, Bethel, but because
Speaker 5: I don't think the city has a reason to single
Speaker 5: you out. Brent. In your experience, have you found cases
Speaker 5: where procedurally the city was mistaken and there were things
Speaker 5: filed that they overlooked. Have you ever found that, I mean,
Speaker 5: it might happen, you would not come to mind.
Speaker 16: But if every case is different, look at but they're
Speaker 16: asking for the saying that they say is missing, and
Speaker 16: respond to that.
Speaker 5: I want to call her. I want to call your
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Speaker 5: the gang in the studio fighting for you now. Mark
Speaker 5: also read on the requirements for short term rentals. It's
Speaker 5: not a walk in the park.
Speaker 4: No, there's a lot too. There's one of the things
Speaker 4: I did want to ask her. Since she's still up,
Speaker 4: we can't get her mom, but did you were you
Speaker 4: guys paying like the sales tax?
Speaker 5: And did you pay all that on time?
Speaker 4: I mean, there is so many things required to keep
Speaker 4: and maintain this license. I mean it's it's like operating
Speaker 4: a business.
Speaker 12: I mean we kept up with all the fees, all
Speaker 12: the home Association sees, all the taxes that we need
Speaker 12: to do. We kept up with everything.
Speaker 4: What we really got to figure out time is what
Speaker 4: were they missing if they denied the packet?
Speaker 5: Why?
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what we have to know is why
Speaker 4: did they deny it? I mean you have not think
Speaker 4: they did not.
Speaker 5: I think I think they did not submit everything I
Speaker 5: think it's that simple. I think that she looks, she
Speaker 5: says her mom took care of it, so it could
Speaker 5: be your mom didn't do it all. I mean, there
Speaker 5: would be no reason for them to say, hey, let's
Speaker 5: not grandfather this one in. It's one too many. It
Speaker 5: doesn't make sense to me.
Speaker 4: But see, you know, I didn't want to say I
Speaker 4: don't know if this is true with a loan Tree,
Speaker 4: but in Bolder, I know this. It has to be
Speaker 4: the person that's renting it out as a short time
Speaker 4: rental in Bolder has to be the owner of the
Speaker 4: property and has to live there at least six months
Speaker 4: and one day out of the year. It has to
Speaker 4: be their principal residence. You can't simply own a condo
Speaker 4: in Bolder in short term rented unless if you live
Speaker 4: there as your principal residence. So there's one reason, and
Speaker 4: it's got to be deeded in your name. It's got
Speaker 4: to pass all electrical, it's got to pass everything. So
Speaker 4: loan Tree probably has something similar like that that you
Speaker 4: guys didn't qualify for. But unless if we look at
Speaker 4: the app or more importantly, the denial letter, I don't
Speaker 4: even know where we start on this.
Speaker 5: I don't either. I don't, honest to goodness, I just don't.
Speaker 5: I think we have to talk to her mom, and
Speaker 5: her mom's not available, Bethel, do you know where your
Speaker 5: mom might be or can you talk to her first?
Speaker 5: Maybe she's is not picking up a strange number or something.
Speaker 12: I believe I believe she's got a.
Speaker 4: Doctor's appointment right now, And Bethel fits true. You guys
Speaker 4: submitted everything and they're just saying no because they feel
Speaker 4: like it. We'll get personally involved and we'll fight for you.
Speaker 4: We'll get Brad O'Brien involved. But I mean, we've got
Speaker 4: to know what we're up against. I mean, we'd love
Speaker 4: to help you out, but I'm I'm truly afraid this
Speaker 4: stuff wasn't submitted on time or lack of and that's
Speaker 4: what we've got to figure out.
Speaker 5: Before anything.
Speaker 12: I'll get my mom to talk to you guys, so
Speaker 12: you guys can get the full story.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Bethel. Now, by the way, I want to
Speaker 5: ask about the house is this part? Is this a
Speaker 5: house she lives in when she's not renting.
Speaker 12: She owns it, She's been owning it for over twenty years.
Speaker 12: She built it, she lived in the basement to make
Speaker 12: sure that she followed all the rules that are permit it.
Speaker 5: Now has she ever thought about a long term rental?
Speaker 5: I mean, rentals are hot in Lone Tree.
Speaker 6: Right now.
Speaker 12: We tried, we're not really getting any business in that department.
Speaker 5: Really, what kind of a house is it?
Speaker 12: It's a five bedroom.
Speaker 5: Home, five bedroom ranch? Or two story?
Speaker 12: It's two story?
Speaker 5: My god? Is it in a nice neighborhood?
Speaker 12: Very nice, very safe?
Speaker 5: Uh? Man, I'm telling you you find some executive couple
Speaker 5: or some professional people that I mean, I'm not even
Speaker 5: I'm even thinking could you do a long term rental
Speaker 5: with more than one tenant? You know where people you
Speaker 5: know where they have a common area and they have bedrooms.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know what they would allow or
Speaker 5: not allow, because that's not a short.
Speaker 4: Term generally speaking. Short term rentals makes so much more
Speaker 4: money though.
Speaker 5: Man. Yeah, but if you mark, if you could have
Speaker 5: let's say there's five bedroom, un let's see have two
Speaker 5: or three tenants sharing that house, or three or maybe
Speaker 5: even four or five. I mean, seriously, if you did
Speaker 5: it the right way, I don't know, man, You know,
Speaker 5: I think they need somebody who thinks creatively on getting
Speaker 5: this thing, because if she has this big house and
Speaker 5: can't do anything with it, she's going to She depended
Speaker 5: on this income, right, Bethel?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And did she ever pay sales tax on it? Out
Speaker 5: of curiosity?
Speaker 12: She pays all our taxes. She does everything. She hires
Speaker 12: someone to make sure she gets all our taxes done correctly.
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Speaker 5: Hi Tom Martine here, Welcome to the show. Three all
Speaker 5: three seven one three talk seven one three eight two
Speaker 5: five five. All right, guys, now we get to this discussion.
Speaker 5: What do you think TikTok? I mean, it's a major
Speaker 5: deal that we are outlawing this, and Mark says it's
Speaker 5: because they're getting demographic information about us.
Speaker 4: Do you wow, it's it's not Timy, it's Red China, Tom,
Speaker 4: that's who owns.
Speaker 5: No, no, I get it. But well, first of all,
Speaker 5: the owner says he's independent.
Speaker 4: There's no one independent in China that that just everybody knows.
Speaker 4: There's not one business in China that the Chinese government
Speaker 4: doesn't have full access to everything.
Speaker 5: Okay, So what happens now? Didn't they start some kind
Speaker 5: of a new form, some kind of a new service altogether?
Speaker 4: I thought, first of all, it's still up, it's still
Speaker 4: up right now? And Trump is saying he's going to
Speaker 4: do some form of an executive order, uh, to keep
Speaker 4: it up.
Speaker 5: Does he not believe in does he not believe in it? No?
Speaker 5: Actually he's the opposite. No, he's the opposite. That's what
Speaker 5: I thought. I would think Musk is too, the opposite,
Speaker 5: meaning that they don't believe in banning stuff right in general,
Speaker 5: I mean, what do you think? I mean, I think
Speaker 5: that that's their main that's their main claim to fame.
Speaker 4: Well, I don't know how Elon thinks, Cause with Elon,
Speaker 4: I mean in a way, I'm not saying that's up
Speaker 4: against Twitter. I mean they're completely different in a lot
Speaker 4: of ways. But I mean it is I would assume
Speaker 4: it's some form of advertising competition. But you do got
Speaker 4: to remember there is a big freaking deal when China
Speaker 4: has accessed all that data.
Speaker 5: Man, it's just crazy. It's crazy. But are we naive
Speaker 5: to think that they can't get it? In another way?
Speaker 5: You can subscribe to demographic data. You're missing it though,
Speaker 5: are you? You're missing it?
Speaker 4: Then they can advertise what they want to happen. Oh,
Speaker 4: your government is screwing you. They're doing inside stuff, taking
Speaker 4: your money, taking your taxes. They can do campaigns targeted
Speaker 4: to hundreds of millions of people to try to get
Speaker 4: through their messaging during a wartime if we actually went
Speaker 4: to war.
Speaker 5: With it on a Facebook account and do that mark, No,
Speaker 5: they can't.
Speaker 4: They don't have access to the back end data of Facebook.
Speaker 4: They don't have it. They don't know every other app
Speaker 4: you use on your phone. By advertising on Facebook, they
Speaker 4: have access to all the data.
Speaker 5: What kind of data do they get on TikTok people?
Speaker 5: I don't know what they don't get?
Speaker 4: Well, like where you work, where your websites are, what
Speaker 4: phone company you have, what electric company you have, all
Speaker 4: your contacts, everybody you deal with, are you republican Democrat?
Speaker 4: All your texts? Possibly anything? Anything?
Speaker 5: I want to know how people think about it. Morons
Speaker 5: weigh in on it, call me, I really do I
Speaker 5: just it just seems it just seems counterproductive. Look at
Speaker 5: I'm not for the communist government, but if they know
Speaker 5: demographics and they do campaigns, that's freedom of expression and
Speaker 5: freedom of speech.
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, so China and even China, who's our adversary,
Speaker 4: should have freedom of speech like a citizen. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: Well I guess Russia should too.
Speaker 5: Yeah. No, I'm saying when I say freedom, don't get
Speaker 5: don't get me wrong. I mean I don't think they
Speaker 5: should infiltrate and and hack and do illegal things. But
Speaker 5: if they can send messages. You know China, China won't
Speaker 5: allow any of ours over there.
Speaker 4: They have to monitor anything Facebook or Twitter, anything if
Speaker 4: they want to operate in that country because of the
Speaker 4: exact same reason.
Speaker 5: Now, I'm not anti American. I'm just saying that that
Speaker 5: that we should be able to discern any information on
Speaker 5: our own and allow a free flow. But anyway, i'd
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Speaker 5: No, Tom Martine, Hey, welcome to Car Day today. We
Speaker 5: haven't had many car questions, but I'm going to change that.
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Speaker 5: the TikTok red TikTok agreement. Before you get an account,
Speaker 5: they have access to everything on your phone, bank accounts, passwords,
Speaker 5: what social security numbers, what. Joe Rogan actually covered this
Speaker 5: on this podcasts everything. Here's what I everything now. I
Speaker 5: did some research here, not really, you know, chat did
Speaker 5: the research. Here's what it says. The government's concerns about
Speaker 5: TikTok stem from national security risks focusing on the ownership
Speaker 5: its owner. It's owned by Byte Dance. But what Byte
Speaker 5: Dance and other companies in China agree to is that
Speaker 5: this is what the Chinese government, by the way, requires
Speaker 5: all companies. China's National Intelligence law requires all Chinese organizations, businesses,
Speaker 5: and citizens to cooperate and submit to the government for
Speaker 5: their intelligence work. Listen to this. This is actually part
Speaker 5: of the constant Well, I don't know if you call
Speaker 5: it a constitution, but the Chinese government. This raises concerns
Speaker 5: that byte edance could be forced to hand over data.
Speaker 5: Think about that potential for censorship and propaganda. They have
Speaker 5: a concern that it could be manipulated. And then, like
Speaker 5: you said, Mark, but here's the other thing. They're gathering
Speaker 5: information on people in the government itself and stupid people
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Speaker 5: are being influenced, and they're being influenced politically. Okay, then
Speaker 5: they're saying that it's not just demographic information they're gathering,
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Speaker 5: profiling individuals, and turning people into assets for espionage and blackmail.
Speaker 5: They have had people who have recruited through TikTok. Do
Speaker 5: you believe that, Well, absolutely, think about it.
Speaker 4: They have some kid, they got all his information, they
Speaker 4: got some video of them that basically the phone took
Speaker 4: of him doing things that are you know, teenagers do
Speaker 4: if you will, And then all of a sudden they
Speaker 4: reach out to him to ask him for a favor
Speaker 4: or else.
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Speaker 4: got lines open. We need some car questions today. I
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Speaker 4: to sell a car and need a value of a car.
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Speaker 18: It's some moron on the other side of the freaking
Speaker 18: phone making noises.
Speaker 5: He's hey, guys, are there any like tips for these
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Speaker 6: Well, about to get a question, but you were going
Speaker 6: to ask Jeff too, Mark, remember about the TCM in that.
Speaker 4: So one of the things that rapo Key is saying,
Speaker 4: I'm not going to recap.
Speaker 5: The whole story story.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, but people listening, he drops off a vehicle,
Speaker 4: they sell them a transmission, then they say, hey, it
Speaker 4: also has a bad TCM, and they put the TCM in.
Speaker 5: It's still not working.
Speaker 4: Then they put another transmission in because they figure out
Speaker 4: the first one they sold them was no good.
Speaker 5: Then the vehicle runs.
Speaker 4: Now they're trying to charge them for the TCM and
Speaker 4: the transmission. What they're saying is the TCM took the
Speaker 4: tranny out, or the tran he took the TCM out,
Speaker 4: so they need both.
Speaker 5: Is that possible?
Speaker 6: The TCM can definitely wipe out a transmission and explain
Speaker 6: why though, Joe, you.
Speaker 18: Know, commit wrong commands. Usually it'll be something in the
Speaker 18: form of you know, pressure control. But I mean that
Speaker 18: Toyota went through a huge phase of it for probably
Speaker 18: about a five year stint where we had known codes
Speaker 18: pulled up and you just did even question it it
Speaker 18: needed a TCM when you pulled it up and built it. So, yes,
Speaker 18: TCMs can definitely caused transmission failure the other way around.
Speaker 18: Not very likely, uh so, no, not very likely.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 18: So but if they you know, they put transmission in,
Speaker 18: it still wasn't working. Deducted that, Hey, the TCM caused
Speaker 18: the lost failure, then yeah, it's entirely possible.
Speaker 4: So the chain went like this though transmission car was
Speaker 4: still stuck in gear. So it went in originally stuck
Speaker 4: in fourth gear. Then it goes into the shop, sell
Speaker 4: them a transmission. It's stuck in first gear, the new transmission.
Speaker 4: So then they say they need the TCM. Put the
Speaker 4: TCM in, same things, still stuck in first gear. Put
Speaker 4: the new transmission in. Everything works fine. So how would
Speaker 4: you possibly ever know if it needed the TCM?
Speaker 6: Two failure point too far down the pike, and I'm sure.
Speaker 5: All those parts and you don't you don't know.
Speaker 18: But I mean, the likelihood is it was the transmission
Speaker 18: the whole time they chased their tails on it. So
Speaker 18: but once they put that thing in the car, it
Speaker 18: belongs to them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, but I hope they do something good.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's a deal in Doug Store you know what.
Speaker 4: I hope they just do what's right if they truly
Speaker 4: needed one. But they had the guy's vehicle three months too,
Speaker 4: which is not cool.
Speaker 5: Man, three months they had this and they couldn't get
Speaker 5: it fixed.
Speaker 4: And a lot of that time it was because the
Speaker 4: original transmission they diagnosed. So once again, I don't know
Speaker 4: if it needed both, Tom, I don't know if it
Speaker 4: needed just a transmission, And I don't know.
Speaker 5: If I want to know what happens, let's just ask
Speaker 5: this bottom line, what happens if you put in something
Speaker 5: it didn't need, Well, how do you guys handle it?
Speaker 6: You eat it?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you eat it right?
Speaker 4: Or if you didn't send it back yet, you put
Speaker 4: in the original part.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 18: I mean sometimes there's times where you can you might
Speaker 18: be able to recover that part. But if you can't,
Speaker 18: I mean, that's not the customer's responsibility.
Speaker 6: No, not at all.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm glad to hear that now. But sometimes though,
Speaker 5: hold on, real cock.
Speaker 4: Suzanne had a great question for him too, which was
Speaker 4: what Suzanne.
Speaker 6: Just with the sub zero temps, any tips with taking
Speaker 6: care of your car.
Speaker 5: With the cold temps like we're getting here, warming it
Speaker 5: up a little.
Speaker 6: Bit will definitely help it.
Speaker 18: But I mean, as far as you know, with the
Speaker 18: cold tamps driving down the road, your cooling system you
Speaker 18: can actually not work as efficiently as you want it to.
Speaker 6: In other words, you're not going to get heat in
Speaker 6: the cabin.
Speaker 18: So you know, even just taking a piece of cardboard
Speaker 18: or chipboard and zip zip tie that thing to the
Speaker 18: front of your grill to block some of that cold
Speaker 18: air from coming in, we'll actually help.
Speaker 6: You out there.
Speaker 5: Is there.
Speaker 4: This sounds crazy, and I don't know if you guys
Speaker 4: ever been there, but I had windshield washer fluid put
Speaker 4: in at Walmart one time. This is years ago, but
Speaker 4: up in Rocky Ford, and we were picking up one
Speaker 4: of our Doberman's, a little puppy. So we we get
Speaker 4: up there, I'm totally out. It's snowing like crazy, it's slushy.
Speaker 4: I got to get this stuff and it was freezing.
Speaker 4: They put stuff in that was probably maybe good down
Speaker 4: to zero but not negative ten, and it froze and
Speaker 4: I couldn't use it at all. So we know there's
Speaker 4: a freezing point on most of the windshield washer stuff.
Speaker 5: What is that?
Speaker 4: But beyond that, is there cooling out there that will
Speaker 4: freeze it like negative ten or fifteen or that doesn't happen.
Speaker 4: That's not the coolint How about transmission fluid, any other fluids.
Speaker 18: No, I mean I was going to say longer warm
Speaker 18: things up, and you know when poor rates are going
Speaker 18: to move a little slower. That's why doing things like
Speaker 18: warming it up before you take office, and.
Speaker 6: To warm it up. No, let it sit there in idle,
Speaker 6: Let it take its time.
Speaker 4: It's so people should do what. Let it warm up,
Speaker 4: make sure you have cooling.
Speaker 18: If you do have to fill your washer fluid. They
Speaker 18: do make some that it goes to a lower temperature.
Speaker 18: Tip so you can get different fluid in Texas than
Speaker 18: they do here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because in Texas it's water.
Speaker 6: They're thirty two degrees and it's plod.
Speaker 5: Hawaii it probably legitimately is water.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's alcohol, but it's just a lower concentrate.
Speaker 4: How about if you have summer stuff in there now
Speaker 4: and you're half full, is there stuff you can add.
Speaker 6: To mixing up this? Fine?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 18: So you know, if you have a diesel, you know,
Speaker 18: probably it's a good idea to pour on a bottle
Speaker 18: of Alliant or some standard im lower that gelling point.
Speaker 5: To the new diesels.
Speaker 4: I mean stuff made in the last four years. Do
Speaker 4: you still have to plug him in in really bad
Speaker 4: weather to get him to start?
Speaker 6: You know, you're better off if you do, but you
Speaker 6: don't have to know. Ok. Yeah, it'll definitely start easier
Speaker 6: if they're warmed up, if you got that block heater
Speaker 6: turned on.
Speaker 4: The only thing I well, and that's not true are
Speaker 4: r V is diesel. But we wouldn't use it this time.
Speaker 4: But it's always plugged in and it's always got an
Speaker 4: engine block heater built in. But my John Deere tractor,
Speaker 4: that's diesel. And what I've learned about that over four
Speaker 4: or five years in Franktown. When he gets that cold, man,
Speaker 4: I'll wait for those glow plugs. But there's been a
Speaker 4: couple of times I gotta pop a little booster on.
Speaker 4: You would think the battery is going bad, but I
Speaker 4: don't think so, because it's only at that negative turning
Speaker 4: so hard.
Speaker 5: Yeah, God, so guys. Bottom line is when it comes
Speaker 5: to parts, when do you how do you even know
Speaker 5: what if you did replace it and maybe it did
Speaker 5: need it and it didn't the old ones gone, you
Speaker 5: you can't necessarily know that. You know what I'm saying
Speaker 5: you can't tell if you needed it.
Speaker 6: It can be a challenge, yes, and then the vice
Speaker 6: versa happens too because we get bad parts, so you
Speaker 6: replace one and it doesn't fix it. You screw it.
Speaker 6: So you think you screwed up by putting a transmission
Speaker 6: like Kia did and find out that, you know, all
Speaker 6: in all, it is just a bad part. So yeah,
Speaker 6: parts are there's a challenge, it really is.
Speaker 18: And quality control lately, for probably the last couple of
Speaker 18: three years, has gone way down the tubes.
Speaker 6: Yep?
Speaker 4: Is that because they've been out forcing to different places.
Speaker 4: I mean, why would quality go down so far?
Speaker 18: You know, I don't know if it's everybody's short on staff,
Speaker 18: but yeah, I mean we were talking about it a
Speaker 18: couple of weeks ago. I had a Dodge truck three times,
Speaker 18: I've warranted solenoid body and the thing, and we're getting
Speaker 18: straight from Chrysler.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, And okay, So so there's got to be
Speaker 5: a certain amount of trust as well. Let's let's face it.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, in other words, you you have
Speaker 5: somebody tell you something and you decide if in fact
Speaker 5: it's going to work or not. If it doesn't work,
Speaker 5: it's up to the shop to be honorable on that,
Speaker 5: or it's up to I don't know. Sometimes think you know, guys,
Speaker 5: here's another thing we've said before. Sometimes you need loads
Speaker 5: of things, not just one thing, right.
Speaker 6: No, definitely true, like you fix one of it.
Speaker 5: And it's not your fault. No, and it's not your
Speaker 5: fault that you know it might need one thing, I mean,
Speaker 5: excuse me, multiple things, But people sometimes think, well, you
Speaker 5: might be putting us together, know what I'm saying, How
Speaker 5: do we really know we need all that? What do
Speaker 5: you do in that case? I mean to me, it's
Speaker 5: a matter of it's a matter of trust. There's got
Speaker 5: to be a certain amount of trust.
Speaker 6: Rights got to be open and honest and just explain
Speaker 6: as best you can and show them what's going on.
Speaker 6: That's all you can do, exactly.
Speaker 5: Yep, all right, three O three seven one three eight
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Speaker 5: oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martinez,
Speaker 5: you're a troubleshooter. Three oh three seven one three talk
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Speaker 14: Hey Lee, haven't heard from you.
Speaker 5: In a while, you scoundrel. What's going on?
Speaker 15: I know I've been retired and trying to make money
Speaker 15: to keep living and paying the bills.
Speaker 13: You know, it's just okay.
Speaker 15: But I heard you know you're crying. And because he
Speaker 15: needed people talk about autimony, Well I got one for you.
Speaker 15: Maybe you already know it.
Speaker 17: I don't know.
Speaker 15: You guys know a lot, and I'm sure you've already
Speaker 15: heard of this, But I discovered it. And it used
Speaker 15: to be two years is now us now are used
Speaker 15: to be twenty four thousand miles. Now it's thirty six
Speaker 15: thousand miles. And this is Christian Brothers thirty six thousand
Speaker 15: mile now that put it or for ever, there's no limited.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you're talking about. I don't. Just
Speaker 5: helped me a little more. Lee, I don't know what
Speaker 5: Lee Lee, Lee, Lee Lee start from the beginning, man,
Speaker 5: I don't know. I have any idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Are you talking about the warranty on their own repairs?
Speaker 15: Yeah, warranties on any repairs you get done in the
Speaker 15: In the thing, there are a couple of caveats, obviously,
Speaker 15: I don't know what they're not.
Speaker 5: They're not major.
Speaker 15: Any work that they do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but warrant it now plea for example, thousand miles.
Speaker 4: Shardan Auto Tech has three year thirty six thousand miles
Speaker 4: nationwide on everything.
Speaker 5: Yep, everything, Well, I don't know.
Speaker 15: Christian Brothers is around quite a while, but I'm talking
Speaker 15: this is forever.
Speaker 5: If you're retired, does she works for Christians?
Speaker 15: Wait, and you're not going to drive thirty six thousand
Speaker 15: miles in the next ten years. I do work up there,
Speaker 15: I have work done. It's warranted period. I don't even
Speaker 15: worry about the mileage.
Speaker 5: Help Lee with Christian Brothers. By the way, with Christian
Speaker 5: Lee with Christian Brothers, how long is their warranty? Forever? Okay?
Speaker 15: Thirty six?
Speaker 5: Don any repair that they do well any report I do,
Speaker 5: and even.
Speaker 17: Most of the parts.
Speaker 15: But there's some caveats.
Speaker 5: With brake pads are on.
Speaker 4: So brake pads are warrantied forever, and air filters warranteed forever.
Speaker 5: Your oil change warranteed forever.
Speaker 15: I didn't think you said that.
Speaker 5: I didn't say that.
Speaker 15: Well, Cats, I don't know what the caveats are, but
Speaker 15: they're warrant I've had. I've had to bring work back
Speaker 15: up there and they tell me that. I'm I'm bringing
Speaker 15: my credit card in the paper order, my cash paperwork.
Speaker 15: They say, Lee, there's no charge. You were under warranty,
Speaker 15: and I said, well, that was four years ago. He said, hey, there's.
Speaker 8: No time limit on it.
Speaker 4: Our warranty lasts for three years or thirty six thousand miles,
Speaker 4: whichever comes first. That's literally on their website.
Speaker 15: Well, call the Christian Brothers right by my house. I'm
Speaker 15: I'm uh uh, don't exactly they're they're on balls and
Speaker 15: sims and the guy, I'll tell you, Chris, you just
Speaker 15: on the phone.
Speaker 2: I had.
Speaker 15: I had to verify it because I didn't quite remember
Speaker 15: any exact details, and he just told me again except
Speaker 15: that it used to be twenty four thousand miles and
Speaker 15: unlimited time.
Speaker 6: Sure, and there's a lot of parts around the town
Speaker 6: or lifetime warranty too. Most of the water pumps we
Speaker 6: put on our lifetime, most of the alternators or lifetime.
Speaker 6: So yeah, lifetime's not unusual.
Speaker 15: Yeah, I just well, I don't know, man, maybe not,
Speaker 15: but it to me for somebody that's retired. And I
Speaker 15: used to drive a lot of miles, okay, I mean
Speaker 15: I was a professional truck driver's sohone a lot of miles.
Speaker 15: But I don't drive that many miles now. So now
Speaker 15: that warranty really shines in my eyes. I don't care
Speaker 15: about his twenty four thousand or trotter or whatever the
Speaker 15: mile it is, because I'm not going to get there
Speaker 15: with it.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 15: Just I didn't want to let you know that. And
Speaker 15: it was Christian Brothers. You're looking at Christian Brother's side.
Speaker 15: This is the one on sims and bowls.
Speaker 5: Well, they're all loaned down. They're all loaned by the
Speaker 5: same concerts for franchises. Oh, they are franchises. Franchises, they're
Speaker 5: all franchised.
Speaker 6: What they what did they warranty for you?
Speaker 15: Well, anything, you get No, what did you just.
Speaker 6: Have warrantyed that you had to put your credit card
Speaker 6: away for?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, good question.
Speaker 15: It was here on my bronco. I don't have I
Speaker 15: never have had much warranty work on. I got one
Speaker 15: hundred and eighty one thousand miles on it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, smell, I smell a weird story.
Speaker 8: It's not a weird.
Speaker 5: I got it. Okay, well you have I don't dragon. No, no,
Speaker 5: it didn't come to my boss. Hi doubt? Did you
Speaker 5: take Mark down? Did we even have delay again?
Speaker 12: Or not?
Speaker 6: We're good?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, people, I apologize for all the vulgarity
Speaker 5: ushering out of Mark's mouth. Marks anyway, we had to nick.
Speaker 6: We'll bring them back later. All right? Three? Was they
Speaker 6: able to get warranty? That's all?
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Speaker 5: all three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martino,
Speaker 5: you're a troubleshooter three three seven to one three talk
Speaker 5: listen Genesis Total Exterior. Somebody texted me and said, what
Speaker 5: about the mold mitigation? Do they have to come to
Speaker 5: the house. Yes, they have these tests. They do. They
Speaker 5: don't have you do them. They do them and the mitigation.
Speaker 5: Here's the important part though, they're honest about it. Okay,
Speaker 5: that's the important part. Genesis Tootalexteriors dot com. And then
Speaker 5: I have a text here for Kevin. Kevin, do you
Speaker 5: offer tow services to your facility if they can't drive
Speaker 5: the car?
Speaker 6: Yeah, we have a very large toe service we use. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 6: they're all over Denver.
Speaker 5: Okay, okay, that's good. Three oh three seven one three
Speaker 5: two five five Jeff Fick. Is there a core value
Speaker 5: given to transmissions when you remove in exchange?
Speaker 18: Almost one hundred percent of the time. There are exceptions,
Speaker 18: but as a general rule, yes, there is.
Speaker 5: They want to know if they want to keep the core.
Speaker 5: Does that make a big difference in the price.
Speaker 18: It really depends on what your unit is. You know,
Speaker 18: some of them are only a few hundred bucks. Some
Speaker 18: of them can be a couple of thousand.
Speaker 5: Okay, wow. And why is that? Because they use them
Speaker 5: to do the next transmission? Right?
Speaker 6: Correct, So it's more of an encouragement to get have
Speaker 6: you return it. They'd rather have the core than have
Speaker 6: the core money.
Speaker 5: Okay, next text. I got this one a while ago
Speaker 5: and I just found it. You guys are always I
Speaker 5: don't think they mean this, are always dissing the DVM
Speaker 5: trans I know they don't mean that DVM transmissions or
Speaker 5: eight what are they? Easy trans Yeah, and I know
Speaker 5: that's what they mean because they said, you know the
Speaker 5: one that has hardly any years. Does that mean to
Speaker 5: avoid them completely? Or are they all bad? What's the story?
Speaker 18: Some are better than others, I mean, particularly when it
Speaker 18: comes to Nissan. You know, we pick on Nissan because
Speaker 18: they aren't.
Speaker 5: Are they Are they going to be the standard? I mean,
Speaker 5: are basically most cars going to them?
Speaker 18: You know, in the passenger vehicle yes, some of the
Speaker 18: smaller crossovers yes, But when you get into the truck market,
Speaker 18: they you know, they haven't been able to prove their
Speaker 18: ability yet in order to introduce them.
Speaker 5: So what would you do if you had one to
Speaker 5: keep it going the longest?
Speaker 6: There's nothing you can do that you wouldn't do to
Speaker 6: a conventional transmission. I mean you just, okay, do a service.
Speaker 6: That's all you can.
Speaker 5: If you treat them both the same, If you treat
Speaker 5: them both the same, I'm asking straight up, will a
Speaker 5: conventional transmission last.
Speaker 6: Longer in most cases? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 5: And why I thought the one would less moving parts
Speaker 5: would last long.
Speaker 18: Well, you know, if they made better parts for him,
Speaker 18: then that might actually work that way. But you know,
Speaker 18: either the technology is not there at the engineering level
Speaker 18: or the profitability is not in there in order to
Speaker 18: make them durable up to state.
Speaker 5: So bottom line is is that you know, they they'll
Speaker 5: they're not all failures. But if you had your choice,
Speaker 5: you would go with conventional.
Speaker 6: I would.
Speaker 5: Wow. Okay, I mean, listen, this is a guy who
Speaker 5: builds now of the those CVTs, which ones are the best.
Speaker 6: Probably Suber.
Speaker 18: They're actually pretty big beefy parts that are inside there.
Speaker 18: We don't see a whole lot of failures in them.
Speaker 18: I've probably replaced two or three. The rest of the time,
Speaker 18: it's usually doing voild bodies and or cork converters.
Speaker 5: How do you know if your car has a CBT?
Speaker 5: How do you even know? Does it say on the
Speaker 5: sticker CBT? I mean really, how do you know?
Speaker 6: Well, because it doesn't shift.
Speaker 18: I mean that you'll have when you're taking off, It'll
Speaker 18: just hold those RPMs and you'll you'll watch the tackle
Speaker 18: up and down as the pulleye expand or constrict. But
Speaker 18: you're not gonna have a shrift.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess we can just go online and research.
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying is is that you just asked,
Speaker 5: does that have a CVT transmission or something? I don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeh, as long as your dealer knows what he's talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 6: because most people can't they don't know.
Speaker 5: They really don't know. They don't the same with if
Speaker 5: it has a chain or a belt, exact timing chain
Speaker 5: or a belt.
Speaker 6: I mean, yep, and.
Speaker 5: Okay, So what's the biggest danger with a CBT Is
Speaker 5: it self adjusting? Does it have intelligence? Does it have
Speaker 5: a control module? What about?
Speaker 18: I mean, all vehicles today are pretty intelligent, so they
Speaker 18: do adapt for wear and tear to some extent that
Speaker 18: leaven adapt to a particular driver. You know, Kevin might
Speaker 18: have a timid foot, and you know whereas I drive
Speaker 18: with my foot down all the time, the computer will
Speaker 18: learn that. That's why occasionally, you know, if you let
Speaker 18: your car to your your wife or your son or
Speaker 18: something for a couple of days and you get it back,
Speaker 18: it just doesn't quite feel the same. It probably doesn't
Speaker 18: because the computer has started for those shift adapts and
Speaker 18: for spark curves and everything else to adapt to that driver.
Speaker 5: This is this is a direct text based on what
Speaker 5: we're talking about. This came in quickly at my Google number,
Speaker 5: and I should just give that number out people. It's
Speaker 5: seven four, seven nine nine nine fifty to eighty. They
Speaker 5: want to know this, then, hold on, where the heck
Speaker 5: did it. Go shoot, I'll find it and come back.
Speaker 5: But when we were talking about CBTs and something, they
Speaker 5: wanted to know. Oh, they want to know what kind
Speaker 5: of transmissions, if any, do electric cars have. Aren't they
Speaker 5: really constant velocity?
Speaker 6: No, they're direct drive, so there is no transmission.
Speaker 5: So there's no transmission. There's no transmission. Nope. They had
Speaker 5: the pumpkin though, right or not?
Speaker 18: So there were some the day, yes, so where you
Speaker 18: had a single motor from the side, so they have
Speaker 18: basically a gearing settle.
Speaker 5: But if we looked under Marx models, if we looked
Speaker 5: under Marx models, we'll see a motor driving the front
Speaker 5: and the back right.
Speaker 18: Yeah, probably easier to see Nelson And there's no transmission.
Speaker 6: What's that?
Speaker 4: I hit a rock the other day so I knocked
Speaker 4: out some of my dad under. I don't even it's
Speaker 4: just this tectaastic piece. So we got to get it up.
Speaker 5: In the air and jeffski eyeball for me. Oh my goodness,
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Speaker 5: three nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hi Tom Martine here,
Speaker 5: three oh three seven one three talk seven one three
Speaker 5: eight two five five. What's on your mind? I want
Speaker 5: to bring some stuff up. Uh, and then of course
Speaker 5: we'll take all of your problems, questions, complaints. There's never
Speaker 5: a rhyme or reason for calls in this show. But anyway,
Speaker 5: I find this incredibly eye opening. So if you took
Speaker 5: auto mechanics, would you say they have more trust than
Speaker 5: distrust in the marketplace in general? Regarded very high, very low,
Speaker 5: or average? What would you say? The majority of people
Speaker 5: rule them as high trusted, low trusted, or average trusted,
Speaker 5: And that would be an auto mechanic.
Speaker 18: I'd probably say on the lower end, and all actuality,
Speaker 18: it's just been a built stereotype over so many years.
Speaker 18: You know, once you've gotten an established relationship with somebody,
Speaker 18: then you know who you can trust. But I mean,
Speaker 18: I can't tell you how many women come in and say, well,
Speaker 18: I'm a normal woman. I don't want to get taken
Speaker 18: advantage of. You know, I don't want you talking about it.
Speaker 5: You'd be surprised to know. This is a massive survey
Speaker 5: by Gallup and thirty three percent of the people highly
Speaker 5: regard auto mechanics as trustworthy. That's an all time high.
Speaker 5: Thirty three percent. Now twelve percent regard them as dirt bags.
Speaker 5: That's my words, not Gallup. Gallup just calls it very
Speaker 5: low trust. Okay, but here's the really cool thing. Fifty
Speaker 5: two percent say, hey, they're pretty good. So you really
Speaker 5: if you take the average the fit, I mean, if
Speaker 5: you take the fifty two percent who really say they're
Speaker 5: pretty good, right, They're not excellent, they're not bad, And
Speaker 5: then you take thirty three percent, that's basically eighty five
Speaker 5: percent of the population who don't think your dirt bags.
Speaker 5: I mean, I find that pretty cool. And just as
Speaker 5: a measure, you measure higher than judges and clergy. Do
Speaker 5: you know that with clergy only thirty percent of the
Speaker 5: people find clergy to be highly regarded. Twenty percent say
Speaker 5: they're dirt bags and they're okay. Now, what do you
Speaker 5: think about? What do you think?
Speaker 6: That's a question.
Speaker 7: Don't you don't what don't you think it would be
Speaker 7: interesting when it comes to clergy to divide it into priests,
Speaker 7: rabbis and and i'men and see if it's consistent through
Speaker 7: all three major religious groups.
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Speaker 5: Now, Tom Martino, Hello Tom Martino here, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 5: Three O three seven one three talk seven, one, three, eight,
Speaker 5: two five five. Hey, it's our day, and as car
Speaker 5: days go, we haven't had as many calls as usual,
Speaker 5: but we do have. We do have, of course, a
Speaker 5: lot going on texting and email wise. I've been trying
Speaker 5: to parse through. Plus we've been having overall general discussions.
Speaker 5: And someone told me basically in a long email. But
Speaker 5: I'm gonna summarize it that TikTok is one of the
Speaker 5: biggest dangers to American security. I mean, so I'm not Look, look,
Speaker 5: people have all kinds of views on it, but do
Speaker 5: you realize there are millions and millions of young people
Speaker 5: that actually make a living on it. It's their sole
Speaker 5: source of income. I didn't realize how many people make money. Oh,
Speaker 5: big time man. And of course, do you remember one
Speaker 5: of the earliest TikTok stars, Charlie was it? Forgive me
Speaker 5: for not knowing your name on not a TikTok star,
Speaker 5: but demeyo, Charlie. You've heard of her, right, guys, I
Speaker 5: mean somebody has. It's like big time. I mean, she
Speaker 5: makes millions a year, millions. So is there a way
Speaker 5: to thwart it? Yes? There is? Oh it's Charlie d Amelia.
Speaker 5: She has one hundred and fifty five point eight million followers.
Speaker 5: Knie Lame has well there's sixties. Who is Cabaine Lame
Speaker 5: one hundred and sixty. Yeah, that's what I just Yeah,
Speaker 5: maybe I didn't I said Charlie's second. Yeah, yeah, Now
Speaker 5: Charlie was the original though, the original Big Beast. Now,
Speaker 5: speaking of beasts, there's a guy named mister Beast, and
Speaker 5: it's amazing what without the input of these these fellas.
Speaker 5: By the way, Tom, I know I love Do you
Speaker 5: know what mister beasts? I just want to say this.
Speaker 5: I love Zach King. I actually follow him. Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 5: Do you know what mister Beast does? He gives away stuff?
Speaker 6: Right, Oh, it's amazing what he does.
Speaker 7: He'll have a couple of people come in and the
Speaker 7: third person will win forty automobiles or if you can
Speaker 7: hold your hand on a private jet the longest out
Speaker 7: of twenty five people, he gives you the long the jet.
Speaker 7: He gives away millions and millions of dollars every year.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So yeah, And there's also but there's the the
Speaker 5: the top five, our top six. They make millions of
Speaker 5: dollars a year on this Now of course, even minor
Speaker 5: players make money, and it's really usurping YouTube. It's becoming
Speaker 5: I mean, it has become the biggest social media site.
Speaker 5: But I heard that you can thwart the ban. Let's
Speaker 5: just say Trump doesn't do anything. I don't know if
Speaker 5: Trump has the authority to do away this. This is
Speaker 5: a law, right, wasn't this passed by this ban?
Speaker 6: So it goes.
Speaker 4: It has to go away on the nineteenth they did
Speaker 4: that last ditch effort with the Supreme Court. But my
Speaker 4: understanding is on the nineteenth that's it. I mean, Congress
Speaker 4: passed it and then Biden signed it, and come the twentieth,
Speaker 4: after the inauguration, I would assume Trump might be able
Speaker 4: to do something, but I have no idea what kind
Speaker 4: of an executive order would overturn Congress.
Speaker 5: I was, here's what you cannot an executive order cannot
Speaker 5: overturn legislative action. Well that's arguablow, But yeah, it's not.
Speaker 5: What do you mean it?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, you know, Biden Biden do any executive
Speaker 4: order where they no longer had to remain in Mexico?
Speaker 5: Why waiting for asylum?
Speaker 4: How it was during the Trump years when he had
Speaker 4: an executive order that changed that. That basically changed everything,
Speaker 4: and it overrode our current laws.
Speaker 5: But I don't I don't know. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't think Biden. I think Biden reversed Trump's executive orders.
Speaker 5: I think it was executive order versus executive order. I
Speaker 5: don't think it was law versus executive order. I mean
Speaker 5: it could, but I don't think so. From what I'm
Speaker 5: reading here is legislative matters have to be overturned legislatively.
Speaker 5: You can't just or of course, before they become a law,
Speaker 5: a president can refuse to sign the law, veto it,
Speaker 5: and then you can try to over it. They can
Speaker 5: try to overpower your veto but basically they say he
Speaker 5: doesn't have the power. But we'll see. Now here's what
Speaker 5: I'm no Mark, you first introduced me years ago to VPNs,
Speaker 5: so you can actually sign on is if you're in Italy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, VPI they're very interesting. And let me tell you why.
Speaker 4: I've learned a lot about this. I have a VPN.
Speaker 5: I used an. It stands for virtual private Networks Go Ahead.
Speaker 4: So what it does is it's mostly to hide yourself
Speaker 4: for whatever reason. It doesn't matter good dubious it doesn't
Speaker 4: matter to hide yourself. So the one I use, which
Speaker 4: is PIA Private Internet Access, I can log into it
Speaker 4: and choose virtually any country or most of them, and
Speaker 4: then I can choose any state. I can do whatever
Speaker 4: I want. And then let's say I do that. Let's
Speaker 4: say there's a boxing match that I want to see.
Speaker 4: In the United States, it's on pay per view, but
Speaker 4: in Mexico you can watch it.
Speaker 5: For free over the airwave, So I.
Speaker 4: Could log in on Mexico, find a local TV station
Speaker 4: that has streaming, and watch the fight. So there's an
Speaker 4: example of using it. Some people use it to download movies.
Speaker 4: They might have a movie collection and basically they'll log
Speaker 4: onto the VPN so no one knows who they are
Speaker 4: are when they're downloading movies, so they don't get kicked
Speaker 4: off their internet provider. But VPNs aren't nearly as good
Speaker 4: as what you're thinking. If you're on something like FanDuel
Speaker 4: or any of these betting sites, I don't care which
Speaker 4: one it is. There's other ways to verify where you
Speaker 4: are besides a VPN, so there's a good chance a
Speaker 4: VPN would not work for TikTok. For the average show,
Speaker 4: there's always people that know how to get around stuff,
Speaker 4: but for the average person, they if it's anywhere designed
Speaker 4: like an app, like a FanDuel or anything else, you
Speaker 4: simply can't do it. I can log into Colorado from
Speaker 4: Wyoming on FanDuel, but I can't bet because.
Speaker 5: It knows I'm on Wyoming.
Speaker 4: Even if I log in using my phone on a
Speaker 4: VPN to Colorado, it simply knows where I'm at because
Speaker 4: because my phone, of course has a GPS, and when
Speaker 4: I agreed to the terms of that app, it says
Speaker 4: we will judge your location not by your Internet IP
Speaker 4: but by your real location.
Speaker 5: Of the phone.
Speaker 4: So you're not going to be able to get on TikTok,
Speaker 4: is what I'm telling you, tom Okay bottom line, Wow,
Speaker 4: I didn't know you were such a TikTok fan.
Speaker 5: No, not at all, Not at all, Mark, it's not
Speaker 5: the fan of TikTok. It's the concept of banning stuff.
Speaker 5: But I'll admit I don't know the extent of the
Speaker 5: alleged threat. I think it's pretty good thought. Yeah, and
Speaker 5: it may be. All I've done is I really haven't
Speaker 5: immersed myself in the news of the day about it,
Speaker 5: Like what exactly are they gathering. Apparently they're attaching themselves
Speaker 5: to anything like they high value targets. But they have
Speaker 5: identified people that they have turned to literally spy. I
Speaker 5: didn't know that.
Speaker 4: I mean, I ran a campaign. Listen to this. I'll
Speaker 4: tell you how strong it was. They ran a campaign
Speaker 4: when this first went to Congress, before it got passed,
Speaker 4: they went out to every TikTok member telling you to
Speaker 4: call your congressman. So you had the Chinese government literally
Speaker 4: telling millions, if not a billion, people to contact your
Speaker 4: congressmen and make sure they don't ban TikTok because they
Speaker 4: want to take.
Speaker 5: Away your rights and take away everything.
Speaker 4: They did that, then I also want you to think
Speaker 4: of something else in China right now, there's no Facebook,
Speaker 4: there's no Twitter. The Chinese government will not allow any
Speaker 4: of that stuff unless they agree to give the Chinese
Speaker 4: all the information.
Speaker 5: And of course these people aren't going to do it.
Speaker 5: I think at one point.
Speaker 4: Zuckerberg did do it with Facebook up to like eight
Speaker 4: or nine, but then it got so crazy he just
Speaker 4: stopped jumping through Chinese hoops. So my body, I guess
Speaker 4: what I'm saying is if they don't allow our companies
Speaker 4: over there, why the hell would we allow their company
Speaker 4: over here?
Speaker 5: Okay? Tit for Ted got it? Yeah? Or Triff Okay,
Speaker 5: what do you think guys? I mean, I don't think
Speaker 5: we're in the age group that cares, right, maybe we're
Speaker 5: not even the ones.
Speaker 7: But you know, TikTok for ses not being banned, just
Speaker 7: the ownership. If if an American with a buy it,
Speaker 7: whether it's you know, Elon Musk or one of the Sharks,
Speaker 7: TikTok won't be banned, so that they're really not banning.
Speaker 5: Any of those. Are you know actually anybody looking at
Speaker 5: buying it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Kevin County from Shark Tank and definitely Elon h
Speaker 4: is interested. Sure, but I hear it will be banned
Speaker 4: on January nineteenth unless the popular social media platform cuts
Speaker 4: ties with this China based parent company. So there is
Speaker 4: no way it's not going down on the nineteenth. I
Speaker 4: wouldn't know how that happens. And so for people out
Speaker 4: there going, well, how would they do that, Well, there's
Speaker 4: so many different ways. They can go to AT and T,
Speaker 4: they can go to Verizon, and they can go to Google.
Speaker 4: They can go and tell Google that and Apple anybody
Speaker 4: that has this app on their phone, you've got to
Speaker 4: kill the app, and they have the power to just pull.
Speaker 5: The app right from your phone. Believe it or not.
Speaker 4: Your carrier can do it, the Google store can do it,
Speaker 4: the I Store can do it, or whatever the hell
Speaker 4: is they called.
Speaker 5: There is a million ways to make it disappear anyway.
Speaker 5: Byte Dance is the owner, right and they say they're
Speaker 5: not selling, well they're going to lose all that revenue.
Speaker 5: Well see does bike Dance get to own a minority share?
Speaker 5: I mean, what were the I'm curious if they.
Speaker 4: Don't shut it down on the nineteenth, how that works
Speaker 4: because the band is supposed to go into effect on
Speaker 4: the nineteenth, come hell or high water. So if they
Speaker 4: don't ban it, what happens, because I mean, that's like
Speaker 4: a big issue right there.
Speaker 5: Now, there is big discussion in Washington the FAA rulemaking
Speaker 5: Committee on what to do with UAS or B the
Speaker 5: LOS basically unmanned aircraft beyond visual line of sight. So
Speaker 5: I'm going to talk about that coming up, and of
Speaker 5: course your calls take priority three three seven to one
Speaker 5: to three. Talk Andrew. He has an issue on litigation,
Speaker 5: MAC has evaluation, so MAC will take you first. Go ahead,
Speaker 5: What is going on with your twenty sixteen Toyota.
Speaker 19: I'm looking to sell my dad's twenty sixteen Tacoma private party,
Speaker 19: and it's got sixty eight thousand miles, and you said
Speaker 19: to call for values. I just wanted to see what
Speaker 19: your opinion was. Obviously an Ada, and we'll give you
Speaker 19: the values. But it's a Tacoma, so somebody will pay
Speaker 19: a little bit more for it.
Speaker 6: I just wanted to get to the car.
Speaker 19: Guys in the opinion.
Speaker 5: Well, also it has low how many miles?
Speaker 19: Sixty eight?
Speaker 6: He's retired, doesn't drive it.
Speaker 4: I think petty details would be petty details will tell
Speaker 4: him exactly what it's worth, real numbers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but but wait a minute, man, this is a gem. Guys,
Speaker 5: this isn't sixty eight thousand miles pretty low?
Speaker 6: Most definitely?
Speaker 5: Guy?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, for seven year old cars.
Speaker 5: And it's and it's a Tacoma. So the Tacoma is
Speaker 5: the one under the tundra, right, the little one. Yep? Yes, okay,
Speaker 5: hold on, let's let's uh, let's talk about it and
Speaker 5: we'll come right back to you. I'm Tom martine Go
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Speaker 5: three nine two zero sixteen twenty two all right, mac
Speaker 5: from what I can find online in all sources, a
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen Toyota Tacoma has an unusual value.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 5: It can be because of your condition. They say a
Speaker 5: minimum for that car is going to be like twenty
Speaker 5: grand minimum and you can get up to thirty. What
Speaker 5: what condition is it in?
Speaker 13: It's in the maculate condition. He's retired and he uh.
Speaker 5: Okay, any any packages?
Speaker 6: Trim?
Speaker 5: What trim packages?
Speaker 13: It's I think it's SR five. It's not the off
Speaker 13: road one. It's it's a different version, and it's two
Speaker 13: door access cab, and it's blue automatic.
Speaker 5: Is it all drive? Is it will drive? Yeah?
Speaker 6: They're all four will drive.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Okay, So in that case, I'm going to cars with the.
Speaker 6: Two door in that trim. It's probably towards the bottom
Speaker 6: end of that.
Speaker 5: Okay, Uh, they say there have been they have listen,
Speaker 5: they have sold between nine and twenty seven to five
Speaker 5: depending on the mileage, but in the Denver area the
Speaker 5: minimum they have sold for is twenty three eight to
Speaker 5: thirty nine hundred.
Speaker 6: Okay, do you already have any Do you already have
Speaker 6: a buyer lined up for this thing?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 5: I do not. I mean, how much you want for it? Man?
Speaker 5: How much you want for it?
Speaker 13: He's hearing impaired, So I'm his son. I'm going to
Speaker 13: help him.
Speaker 5: He wants to buy. How much you want for it?
Speaker 13: I can give you my number off airtime.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not looking at it, but I mean, if
Speaker 5: somebody calls, give your number off the air, and basically
Speaker 5: I would say, guys, I don't know what you think.
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 18: And see what he can do over there. The flat
Speaker 18: rate price for rod to consign it. He takes care
Speaker 18: of everything. It's a safe deal. You know, you're going
Speaker 18: to get your money. I don't know why you deal
Speaker 18: with the hassle. Yeah, consignment. It's a great idea.
Speaker 5: You know, right, Call Rodney over at JFR cars, fr cars, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: and she'll give you the number and it's Rodney. He
Speaker 5: we deal with over there. Thanks man, let's talk to
Speaker 5: Let's talk to Andrew. Andrew, what's what's up?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 20: Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 20: Good?
Speaker 2: Good good?
Speaker 20: In twenty ten f one fifty and uh, the guy
Speaker 20: I bought it from replaced all the coils and did everything,
Speaker 20: and that's still missing. And I took it down the missing.
Speaker 5: Is it missing? Is it missing all the time?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is now?
Speaker 5: And then so you started up and it and it
Speaker 5: just starts and can it can you drive?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 20: Can you can still drive it? It's just just bounce.
Speaker 20: He starts bouncing on you when you put it, when
Speaker 20: you put it and drive or reverse. And the funny
Speaker 20: thing is I took it to the shop two days
Speaker 20: ago and guy put it on the scan, scanned it
Speaker 20: and set everything from the catalytic converter on up, and
Speaker 20: then I left the shop and then it just started
Speaker 20: running fine.
Speaker 6: So it was perfect.
Speaker 20: In this morning, I got into it and I went
Speaker 20: to leave to go to work, and it started doing
Speaker 20: the same thing.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, it sounds to me like a
Speaker 5: computer issue. If it's just haphazardly misfiring. But guys, you're
Speaker 5: the experts.
Speaker 6: What do you think, what what codes are you getting
Speaker 6: if you can't code when it's missing and just a
Speaker 6: misfire code, or do you get other codes?
Speaker 20: It could So there was something with the timing sensor
Speaker 20: fall I didn't I didn't get the numbers.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you got what they call phasers, and the timing
Speaker 6: chains inside that motor can be starting to stick, so
Speaker 6: they stick in one direction or another, and it's that's
Speaker 6: where you start getting the misfires from.
Speaker 20: So what would like intermediately?
Speaker 6: Yes, it could be how many miles around this?
Speaker 20: Uh hundred and forty two?
Speaker 6: Yeah that's about right. Yeah, yeah, what would it?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: What's the thing you end up changing about the timing
Speaker 6: chain and the phasers? Timing chain and phasers inside the
Speaker 6: front of the engine has a timing chain, two phasers,
Speaker 6: four phasers spending the motor. Uh you know, but it's
Speaker 6: it's a chronic Ford problem. Yeah, especially with fifty thousand miles.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So what's what's worst case scenario? Repairs?
Speaker 20: You probably about it was running, it's running great, and
Speaker 20: then all of a sudden it just has sat for
Speaker 20: overnight and then.
Speaker 5: Hold on Andrew.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you could be anywhere two to three grand. You know,
Speaker 6: you may try some oil condition or see if that'll
Speaker 6: help clean it up, you know, like b GM away
Speaker 6: or anything like that may help prolong it. But it's
Speaker 6: inevitable on those motors, is it.
Speaker 5: Man, that's a lot of money, that is.
Speaker 20: Yeah, well the guy was talking, it'd be uh, why
Speaker 20: it's just to swap the engines on. But that be
Speaker 20: something to look into.
Speaker 5: Or just oh no, no, why would you do?
Speaker 6: All of that? Depend on what's you get a motor?
Speaker 5: For sure? Yeah? Sure? Really, well eventually the same thing.
Speaker 6: Well, if you get a rebuilt motor and put it
Speaker 6: in there, no, you're way ahead of the game. I
Speaker 6: wouldn't put another used one in.
Speaker 20: Yeah, correct, because then the motor would be warranteed.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 5: Okay, if it's two or three great is god? What
Speaker 5: would it be to rebuild the motor?
Speaker 6: He has eight to ten probably.
Speaker 5: How about to move in exchange?
Speaker 6: So that's all together? Yeah, that's all in one.
Speaker 20: Okay, sorry, bet j sts some to g and see
Speaker 20: if we can get a couple couple more hundred.
Speaker 6: Miles out try that first? Sure?
Speaker 20: Okay, what was the name of that it's called.
Speaker 6: A BG product and it's the motor oil additive or
Speaker 6: the initials are m A. You can get it on Amazon,
Speaker 6: you get it NAPA, a lot of different places.
Speaker 20: All right, I'll try that. I was maybe thinking maybe
Speaker 20: it was something, you know, just maybe like the ignition.
Speaker 5: Maybe, Hey, Kevin, is it possible? Is it possible that
Speaker 5: that a BG product could clean it up and he
Speaker 5: won't need the repair.
Speaker 6: It would prolong it. He will need the repair eventually,
Speaker 6: but it is sludge that contributes to it. So if
Speaker 6: he can clean that up, he make it some miles
Speaker 6: before he has to do it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how many miles?
Speaker 6: He's probably on borrowed time now. But you know, if
Speaker 6: he can clean it up and get another five ten thousand,
Speaker 6: another year out of it for he has to do it,
Speaker 6: why not?
Speaker 5: All right now, JP, you have a comment on the
Speaker 5: TikTok band. Go ahead?
Speaker 17: Yeah, guys, said, good afternoon. Just a couple of things,
Speaker 17: and I got most of this off summary from the
Speaker 17: Supreme Court ruling this morning. But the biggest issue with
Speaker 17: TikTok's ownership is the potential for accumulating data off of
Speaker 17: people's phones, and sixty three percent of the US population
Speaker 17: from twelve to seventeen years old has that app on
Speaker 17: their phone. The concern is that China will be accumulating
Speaker 17: data on those people, and twenty years from now, when
Speaker 17: they're elected to be in Congress or they're in the military,
Speaker 17: they could come back and blackmail those people with all
Speaker 17: the information that they've got on them.
Speaker 5: Sure can.
Speaker 17: And the other aspect, Mark was saying that what happens
Speaker 17: if they don't get rid of it on the nineteenth
Speaker 17: What I had heard was there's a five thousand dollars
Speaker 17: a day per user fine for any corporation that supports
Speaker 17: that platform after the nineteenth, So it would turn out
Speaker 17: to be a one point seven billion dollars a day
Speaker 17: fine to continue to operate that platform on your service.
Speaker 5: Wow, that's a lot of money.
Speaker 17: Well, and that's why they're saying that the legal departments
Speaker 17: of these corporations just can tell we can't even afford
Speaker 17: to wait one day in case the nineteenth, the twentieth,
Speaker 17: which new president comes in. That's one point seven billion
Speaker 17: if they decide to come after us. And there's a
Speaker 17: five year stature of the limitations on that. So even
Speaker 17: if Trump were not to go after them for the
Speaker 17: fines the next president could.
Speaker 4: I don't know how, Like I don't know how Trump
Speaker 4: could do anything to change this right now besides negotiate
Speaker 4: something the enforcement of those fines. Though, as we know
Speaker 4: just from the student loan debacle where some people I
Speaker 4: ended up paying for their college, we know the president
Speaker 4: can do certain things even if the Supreme Court rules
Speaker 4: one way, you're not supposed to do that, but they
Speaker 4: still do it. So I guess he could tell the
Speaker 4: Justice Department. Just like Biden told the Justice Department to
Speaker 4: go after Trump, he could tell the Justice Department not
Speaker 4: to go after TikTok. So I mean, I don't know
Speaker 4: how any of that's going to unfold. Did you notice Tom.
Speaker 5: How I got some political shots in there. We gotgage Yeah,
Speaker 5: go ahead.
Speaker 17: Included language that the executive Branch could offer a ninety
Speaker 17: day waiver extension if there was substantial progress in the
Speaker 17: transaction of selling the corporations, and.
Speaker 5: There hasn't been any.
Speaker 17: And the Biden administration doesn't think there's been enough progress.
Speaker 17: They questioned whether they would have the authority to.
Speaker 21: Do it now.
Speaker 17: Trump tomorrow or on Monday may know that there is
Speaker 17: substantial progress, but it's still one day after the after
Speaker 17: the band should have started, and that puts everybody at
Speaker 17: risk of a one point seven billion dollars fine if
Speaker 17: they operate one day into it.
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Speaker 5: I love it. They sponsor. H my god. Yeah, he's this.
Speaker 5: This is the real deal. And you know what, here's
Speaker 5: the thing. You know, I got to tell you story.
Speaker 5: So years and years and years ago, I didn't do commercials,
Speaker 5: many many, many many years ago. Then business, the business
Speaker 5: change right.
Speaker 4: And well, hold on, I've always wanted to ask you this.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure I know the answer. But when you
Speaker 4: were with certain news stations on TV, you really weren't
Speaker 4: allowed to do spots, right.
Speaker 5: No, that's not exactly true. What it was is this.
Speaker 5: When I was on Channel four, they didn't they didn't
Speaker 5: want me to do any TV spots. The radio spots
Speaker 5: they kind of just didn't really address. Okay, I mean
Speaker 5: I got paid to do spots as long as it
Speaker 5: didn't filter into my TV work, they were fine with it.
Speaker 5: But I didn't do them for another reason. No one
Speaker 5: wanted me to do them. And they didn't want me
Speaker 5: to do them because they knew when I do commercials
Speaker 5: or when I get calls, that if I recommend somebody,
Speaker 5: there's going to be hell to pay if something goes wrong.
Speaker 5: When they were afraid of inviting negative calls and backfiring
Speaker 5: because truly, I see when people have a problem with
Speaker 5: somebody who advertises on Channel nine or Channel four or
Speaker 5: somewhere else, they don't call Channel nine and complain about
Speaker 5: that company. They call the company because they don't associate
Speaker 5: Channel nine with a particular person. But when I do
Speaker 5: the commercial it's me, so they call me. So I
Speaker 5: put a personal spin on commercials now and it wasn't
Speaker 5: just like and I hate to say this, but a
Speaker 5: talent meaning. And they're all very good, by the way,
Speaker 5: but they do talk shows about shows about other things,
Speaker 5: and they're not consumer advocates. When I do a talk
Speaker 5: show about stuff and then advertise that stuff that has
Speaker 5: a real, real, real deep connection and it also has
Speaker 5: potential for abuse. I mean, if I'm telling you this
Speaker 5: is how you get this done, this is what you
Speaker 5: should do, this is what you shouldn't do, and then
Speaker 5: I also tell a company that can do it. If
Speaker 5: I wanted to be a crooked bastard, it could be terrible.
Speaker 5: There could be terrible recommendations and people a lot of
Speaker 5: them would trust me, but that trust would only go
Speaker 5: it would run out without credibility. You don't go forty
Speaker 5: five years recommending bad people. So what we do is
Speaker 5: is I developed doing spots for only people that agreed
Speaker 5: in writing that if anything went wrong and I thought
Speaker 5: they did anything wrong, they would change it. Nobody does that. Okay,
Speaker 5: that was my condition. If you want to advertise with
Speaker 5: me and I tell you to reverse it or not
Speaker 5: to do it or refund. You have to do whatever
Speaker 5: I ask, unquestionably, because I can't have people being even
Speaker 5: thinking they're being cheated. But that doesn't mean I saw
Speaker 5: with the consumer every time either. So the bottom line
Speaker 5: is this, I started doing this kind of endorsement years ago,
Speaker 5: and instead of turning backfiring, businesses loved it because they
Speaker 5: measured up. And in fact, that's the way the model
Speaker 5: has been ever since. But one thing I'll tell you
Speaker 5: for sure, you can't lie and get away with it
Speaker 5: for long. You can't be a bad company and get
Speaker 5: away with it for long. The truth comes out all
Speaker 5: the time, all the time. You can't hide it. So
Speaker 5: you know, we've had over the years, maybe a handful
Speaker 5: of people here and there that have tried to BSUs
Speaker 5: that said they were good people. We've also had mark
Speaker 5: as you know, really good people when they started out
Speaker 5: and they got in trouble. They got too big too fast.
Speaker 5: You know, there's no perfection in business. There's only striving
Speaker 5: for perfection. And then there's other people. They're victim to circumstances.
Speaker 4: We happen to be talking about uh neo orthodonics I
Speaker 4: think yesterday, and they had to file chapter well, they
Speaker 4: filed chapter eleven and it looks like it converted to
Speaker 4: a seven and they're gone.
Speaker 5: But really, the nail in their coffin.
Speaker 4: In fact, like I said yesterday, the coffin and the
Speaker 4: nail in the coffin, I think was covid AT that
Speaker 4: shut down a lot of things like that.
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