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<v Speaker 1>Then we continue on Fred Rogan, Ben mallerin today for

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney on a five seventy LA Sports Dodgers take the

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<v Speaker 1>first game last night against the Phillies. Back at it tonight,

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<v Speaker 1>Clayton Kershaw on the Hill, Ben, Let's welcome in our

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<v Speaker 1>good friend Jack Harris of the LA Times and Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for jumping on today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no problem.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Before we move forward, let's go back just

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<v Speaker 1>the mood, the emotion, the feeling you had with Freddie

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<v Speaker 1>Freeman coming back last night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now, that was It was something I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>especially for a guy who, you know, when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to baseball, one of his big things is being in

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<v Speaker 2>the lineup every day, posting every day, being locked in,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to have that be the guy who went

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<v Speaker 2>through what he went through the last couple of weeks

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<v Speaker 2>with his son being in the hospital and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>them making trips to the er and then the ICU

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out what was wrong with him, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, having this, you know, he called it a

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<v Speaker 2>miraculous recovery yesterday. It's one of those stories that I

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<v Speaker 2>think puts a lot of the rest of the baseball

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<v Speaker 2>season in perspective. And you saw all of that come

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<v Speaker 2>out when he returned last night from the pregame stuff

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<v Speaker 2>that his teammates did wearing the T shirts with his

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<v Speaker 2>son's name on it too. Obviously the ovation he got,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Dodgers obviously missed him on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think, you know, in his three years here,

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<v Speaker 2>Freddie Freeman's becomes.

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<v Speaker 1>Such a.

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<v Speaker 2>Core piece of the team and the way that fans

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<v Speaker 2>interact with the team that you know, it all kind

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<v Speaker 2>of culminated in that moment and one that you just

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<v Speaker 2>don't really see a lot in the course of a

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<v Speaker 2>normal MLB season or with a lot of players in

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<v Speaker 2>these kinds of situations.

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<v Speaker 3>And Jack, as far as tonight, the big night we've

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<v Speaker 3>been talking about it, Clayton Kershaw, who looked terrible in

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<v Speaker 3>his last start against the Padres. What's the vibe about there, Jack,

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<v Speaker 3>around the Dodgers and Kershaw, what they expect tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think Kershaw is one of the one

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<v Speaker 2>of several kind of interesting wild cards, and in the

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<v Speaker 2>course of the season right now for the Dodgers, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a path where if he looks pretty good over these

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<v Speaker 2>these last couple of months, similar to you know, how

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<v Speaker 2>he looked last year, even when he was battling the

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<v Speaker 2>shoulder injury, that he could be a big part of

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<v Speaker 2>what they're doing in October of how they look at

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<v Speaker 2>their pitching plans, not only to get to the postseason,

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<v Speaker 2>but once they get into the playoffs, and then there's

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<v Speaker 2>another path where, you know, if he looks more like

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<v Speaker 2>he did last week in San Diego, if he's struggling

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<v Speaker 2>to get above ninety miles per hour with the fastball,

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<v Speaker 2>if he's struggling to keep guys off the slider, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to make him a difficult guy to count on

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<v Speaker 2>in the big picture this season. So, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>still early. This is only his third start back from

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<v Speaker 2>his offseason shoulder surgery. His first start was sharper both

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of the results and the way his actual

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<v Speaker 2>stuff looked. But until he strings you know, two, three,

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<v Speaker 2>four of those kind of outings together, there's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be this question about where is he at, just stuff wise,

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<v Speaker 2>at the stage in his career, and is he still

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that the Dodgers can count on, you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>the way that they've been so accustomed to over his

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<v Speaker 2>even you know, the latter stages of his career. The

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<v Speaker 2>last couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Jack, I'm no doctor, although some people thought I was

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<v Speaker 1>a trainer many years ago, but I was not there either.

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<v Speaker 1>I played that in high school football. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>If the guy is struggling, he's at eighty nine in

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<v Speaker 1>his third start, struggling to get over ninety miraculously, is

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<v Speaker 1>his arm and his shoulder going to come around and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden he's gonna be throwing ninety five

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<v Speaker 1>miles an hour. Don't you think it gets worse, not better?

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<v Speaker 1>And I really don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, you're not going to see ninety five. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you're gonna be lucky to see ninety Two's now

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody like Clayton Kershaw, who you know, when it

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<v Speaker 2>just comes to the art of pitching, knows it and

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<v Speaker 2>knows how to navigate it as well as probably anybody

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<v Speaker 2>who's who stepped on a big League mound before. No,

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<v Speaker 2>if he can be ninety to ninety one with a

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<v Speaker 2>sharp slider and you know his trademark curveball and mixing

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<v Speaker 2>in changeups, like there are still ways that he can

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<v Speaker 2>be successful on the margins again, like he was pitching

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<v Speaker 2>through a serious shoulder injury last year and had like

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<v Speaker 2>a two five VR and was an All star pitcher.

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<v Speaker 2>Like he knows how to pitch even with diminished stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>The question is how diminished is it now? How consistently

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<v Speaker 2>can he get that extra tick or two out of

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<v Speaker 2>his fastball? Can he still snap the slider the way

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<v Speaker 2>that you know he has so successfully over his career

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<v Speaker 2>and two starts, I think you've seen one start where

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<v Speaker 2>he did that a little bit better and one start

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<v Speaker 2>where he couldn't really do that at all. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>why the Dodgers, because they still believe in, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just his his veteranability and his track record and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>his kind of an eight way of getting guys out

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<v Speaker 2>with whatever he's got. They're gonna give him some runway,

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<v Speaker 2>as Dave Roberts likes to put it, to try to

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<v Speaker 2>prove that he's still a reliable guy, to try to

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<v Speaker 2>prove that he's still you know, one of the better

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<v Speaker 2>pitchers or in the game, or at least somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>you can count on in a postseason environment. But he's

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<v Speaker 2>at the point of his career now where he does

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<v Speaker 2>have to prove it right where it's not a given

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<v Speaker 2>anymore that playing Kershaw is going to be in the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers postseason rotation or anything like that. So, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a couple of pictures on this team that

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be in that same boat, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>Gavin Stone, whether it's Yoshinobu Yamamoto when he returns from entry.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what makes I think the whole pitching dynamic

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<v Speaker 2>for this team over the rest of the season interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to follow, because outside of Tyler Glasnow and Jack Clarity

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<v Speaker 2>right now, there's not a ton of guys that you're

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<v Speaker 2>probably feeling great about as it pertains to starting games

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<v Speaker 2>in October. So or they're going to give Kershaw opportunities,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to give other guys opportunities because they need

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<v Speaker 2>to figure out who can they trust once they get

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<v Speaker 2>to the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and with that said, if they don't trust him,

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<v Speaker 3>let's let's assume we'll go the worst case scenario that

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<v Speaker 3>Kershaw just can't get guys out consistently. Would they even

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<v Speaker 3>put him on the playoff roster? Jack, if they don't

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<v Speaker 3>trust him to start and he's throwing in the high eighties,

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<v Speaker 3>would they go that direct?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean maybe, I think it's definitely on the table.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's also one of those things that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're still pretty far away from having to make that decision,

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<v Speaker 2>and the short term they still need them to make

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<v Speaker 2>starts and eat innings and give some coverage to a

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<v Speaker 2>pitching staff that's been dealing with absences all year. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the makeup of this team, not just when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the rotation, but the roster at large

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<v Speaker 2>is right now they have once they're fully healthy, they're

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<v Speaker 2>going to have more bodies than spots to sell a

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<v Speaker 2>playoff roster. So for somebody like Clayton Kershoff or guys

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<v Speaker 2>at the bottom of the batting order, some of the

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<v Speaker 2>utility players that move around a lot bullpen, same thing applies,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's a lot of guys that have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to prove over these last couple of months, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if they do want to be in the Dodgers' long

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<v Speaker 2>term plans and want to be key contributors for a

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<v Speaker 2>team that's trying to get to a World Series. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think honestly that's where you know talked of like

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<v Speaker 2>pressure or urgency or those sorts of things. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's coming internally more right now for this team than

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<v Speaker 2>it is from the standings or anything else. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it applies to Clayton Kershaw that he's not performing over

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple months of the season. He's probably not

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that Dodgers will be counting on in October. But

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<v Speaker 2>it applies to a lot of a lot of other

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<v Speaker 2>players on this roster too. Is they try to figure out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what their best twenty six man group looks

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<v Speaker 2>like over the final two months.

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<v Speaker 1>Here. They got the Pros win last night, so I

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<v Speaker 1>got to three tonight, is this a must win series

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<v Speaker 1>for the Dodgers? Jack?

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean nothing is a must win when you

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<v Speaker 2>have like a four or five game lead in the

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<v Speaker 2>division and you know, you seem pretty safe in terms

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<v Speaker 2>of making the postseason, even with how they've been playing

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<v Speaker 2>the last month. I think though, that coming off the

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<v Speaker 2>road trip that they had last week, given the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that the division race is tightened, and given the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that they have a lot of tough teams coming up,

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<v Speaker 2>this is an important series to win. It's one that

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<v Speaker 2>I think would fully steady the ship after what was

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty bad July for them. That would be a

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<v Speaker 2>statement either within the room or just you know, externally

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<v Speaker 2>around the league, like, hey, they've maybe the Dodgers have

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<v Speaker 2>Freddy Freeman back, they have Tyler Glass now back, gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get Mookie Bets back soon. And look, they just beat

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<v Speaker 2>the Phillies in a series like they're back to themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what they can accomplish this week. And

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<v Speaker 2>it would be a good time too, because the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of this month is a pretty tricky schedule, and I think,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if this month goes south on them, then

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly you know, we're not just talking about the division

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<v Speaker 2>race being tight, but you're talking about maybe being in

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<v Speaker 2>a real dog fight with the Padres, with the Dbats

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<v Speaker 2>getting into September. So you can take two or three

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<v Speaker 2>from the Phillies this week, or maybe all three. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it sends a message about, Okay, the Dodgers have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten over what was a bad stretch of play when

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<v Speaker 2>they were missing a lot of guys. They beat the

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<v Speaker 2>best team in the NL, and they're in a good

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<v Speaker 2>spot going into what's probably the toughest stretch of their

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<v Speaker 2>season the rest of this month.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're shaut with Jack Herrish. Jack, what about the

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<v Speaker 3>situation of the bullpen? Is it's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>rotation at closer by how's this going to play out playoffs? Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>the bullpen is massive in October because the pitchers go

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<v Speaker 3>five innings, But how do you see this shaken? How are

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<v Speaker 3>they going to rotate guys at the end of games?

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<v Speaker 2>But right now, that's basically what it is. It's trying to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Dave Roberts is effectively going into every game,

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<v Speaker 2>not saving any particular arm for the ninth but rather

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<v Speaker 2>knowing which parts of an opposing lineup he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>match guys up against, knowing, you know, at the highest

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<v Speaker 2>leverage moments of games, which guy on that night he trusts.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the Dodgers, you know, as they've they've

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<v Speaker 2>dabbled with this a few times since Kinley Jansen left

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<v Speaker 2>the organization a few years ago. They're comfortable not having

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<v Speaker 2>a designated closer now. Dave Roberts will be the first

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<v Speaker 2>one to tell you that life's a lot easier when

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<v Speaker 2>you have one guy in the night that you trust.

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<v Speaker 2>When you had Evan Phillips down there, you know, converting

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<v Speaker 2>saves and pitching, you know, like a reliable guy like

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, they think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people have always looked at as a potential closer. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>with lesser stuff in terms of fastball velocity and just

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<v Speaker 2>Like one of the interesting things about Michael Kopeck joining

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<v Speaker 2>then he gets on the mound and he starts throwing

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred mile per hour fastballs up in the zone

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<v Speaker 2>and getting swing and miss, and you go, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's where the makeup of this bullpen is interesting

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<v Speaker 2>and why I think there's still a lot that could

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<v Speaker 2>change in terms of roles and who's getting leverage situations

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<v Speaker 2>makeup of stuff is going to look a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>different down the stretch, and the Dodgers hope is that

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<v Speaker 3>Chat with Jack Yreson with the Times covers of the Dodgers. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>hey Jack, last one for me. We were singing the

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<v Speaker 3>praise as I was. And Fred likes him too. Ti

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<v Speaker 3>Oscar Hernandez, but he's only on a short contract. Is

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<v Speaker 3>this just gonna be a fling? Is he going to

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<v Speaker 3>go somewhere else next year? What are you feeling? What

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's certainly possible. Part of why the

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<v Speaker 2>t Oscar Hernandez signed the deal that he did with

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers this year was the way he put it,

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<v Speaker 2>It was like a bet on himself, right, Like he

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<v Speaker 2>longer term deal, he decided to take a one year

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<v Speaker 2>deal with the Dodgers and hope he could rebuild his

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<v Speaker 2>He's certainly doing the former. I think, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>probably looked at as the biggest deal of this past offseason.

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<v Speaker 2>The long term repercussion of that, of course, is he's

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<v Speaker 2>one of these players I think falls into this category of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, do the Dodgers look at him as, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a great one year piece for us on

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good value, and now we can try to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out, you know again, for a better value, play

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<v Speaker 2>some other direction to go with one of the corner

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<v Speaker 2>long term and make him an integral part of this

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's one they're definitely going to entertain, given

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<v Speaker 2>like a plus version of Jason Hayward and Miguel Rojas

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<v Speaker 2>last year, and those were guys that the Dodgers brought

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's definitely a possibility with Oscar hand As,

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<v Speaker 2>especially what you start. You know, if you're not going

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<v Speaker 2>But that's probably also a decision that they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>wait till the off season, see how his market looks,

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<v Speaker 2>and see if it makes sense for them financially to

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<v Speaker 2>sign him to what will almost certainly be a longer

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<v Speaker 2>on this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Outstanding, Jack, Thanks for coming on man, love the info.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, thanks guys, Thanks Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>Dodgers back in LA to take on the Phils tonight,

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, if Don's listening, i'd like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, well, first time doesn't listen. If he did,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he'd agree. That's coming up next. Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Maller is in today for Rodney. Okay, have you watched

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the Olympics.

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<v Speaker 4>I've watched some.

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<v Speaker 3>I have it on you because of the time difference

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<v Speaker 3>when I'm doing the overnight show their events going on,

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<v Speaker 3>so I've watched it while I'm at work. Mostly I

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<v Speaker 3>watched the basketball fact they're playing today, Fred, But I

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<v Speaker 3>think right now exactly, yes, I have that on the background.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's about it when I work in the

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<v Speaker 3>basketball What about you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's so weird. For so many years I

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<v Speaker 3>I know you were a staple the Olympics. Fred, That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember watching you back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bet you I've watched five minutes. It's weird. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>inclined to watch it, and I don't know why, but

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<v Speaker 1>I know this. These games for NBC are doing in

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<v Speaker 1>today's world exceptionally well. Numbers are way up over the

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<v Speaker 1>Tokyo Games. Of course those are weird games, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>way up and people are consuming the content differently. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the big reasons ben is something they call

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<v Speaker 1>the gold zone, and the gold zone is like, what

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<v Speaker 5>A red zone for Olympic cover?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right's red zone for Olympics and they have the

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I have Chris Hansen and uh Sicilianowa I think

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's really good. In other words, when something is

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen, they're right there. When somebody could win

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<v Speaker 1>a medal, or there's going to be a point of decision,

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<v Speaker 1>they're right there. It's really good. It is doing exceptionally

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<v Speaker 1>well for them on Peacock. And when you aggregate all

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<v Speaker 1>Ratings or streaming numbers?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm talking about streaming numbers. I just feel the same way,

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<v Speaker 1>Though? It's pretty simple. The streaming numbers are far easier

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<v Speaker 1>when the person leaves. So, by the way, how are

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<v Speaker 4>Numbers surprisingly good? I don't know why, but there are?

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<v Speaker 3>How to Like, what I'm saying is how how it

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<v Speaker 1>No in theory. They could in theory. But when advertising

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<v Speaker 1>be quantitative. You have to give them the number because

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<v Speaker 1>you're selling it on that and you're promising them a

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<v Speaker 1>return on that. So if you're promising them a three whatever,

425
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<v Speaker 1>then that has to Those numbers have to be a

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<v Speaker 1>three or these people are getting their money back. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's how the numbers work.

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<v Speaker 4>Gotcha all right?

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<v Speaker 1>One thing NBC is doing differently this time, And I

430
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<v Speaker 1>always thought it would have been fun when I was

431
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<v Speaker 1>doing it, but you know, oftentimes it's the wrong time

432
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<v Speaker 1>for things. Kind of lighten it up, kind of lighten

433
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<v Speaker 1>up the coverage because it is a sacred, sacred event.

434
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<v Speaker 1>The Olympics at NBC, and there was not a lot

435
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<v Speaker 1>of time for you know, have a laugh, goof around.

436
00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:22.359
<v Speaker 1>That didn't exist when I was doing it. It was

437
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<v Speaker 1>very serious right down the middle. When I would try

438
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<v Speaker 1>to do things, sometimes I went, now, we're not doing that.

439
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<v Speaker 1>We're not doing that, because that's not what the Olympics are.

440
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<v Speaker 1>This go round, it's very different and there's far more

441
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<v Speaker 1>personality from the people on the air. It's less structured

442
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<v Speaker 1>from the perspective of everything is really serious. And one

443
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<v Speaker 1>of the guys that they use and he did it

444
00:20:49.480 --> 00:20:51.759
<v Speaker 1>last time and it worked, so now they've given him

445
00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:55.400
<v Speaker 1>a bigger role is Snoop. Snoop is an integral part

446
00:20:55.519 --> 00:20:59.400
<v Speaker 1>of the primetime coverage. And what are they paying him?

447
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<v Speaker 1>Five hundred dollars a day.

448
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the story that's being reported. Five hundred thousand

449
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<v Speaker 3>dollars a day. And the Olympics last I did some

450
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<v Speaker 3>malord math on this. But so the Olympics last what

451
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<v Speaker 3>eighteen days?

452
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<v Speaker 4>I think? Am I correct on?

453
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<v Speaker 5>Officially sixteen sixteen days?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, so my math is wrong. Let me do

455
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<v Speaker 4>this again. Here, I gotta I got my calculator out here,

456
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<v Speaker 4>So let's do the math.

457
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<v Speaker 3>On day, so he sixteen days, So that means he's

458
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<v Speaker 3>getting Snoop Dogg for the sixteen days.

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<v Speaker 4>Eight million dollars, right, good work if you can get it. Yeah,

460
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<v Speaker 4>but it sounds but it doesn't.

461
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<v Speaker 3>I eight millions great, but five hundred thousand dollars a

462
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<v Speaker 3>day it sounds even better, right, I mean five hundred.

463
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<v Speaker 3>Now I've watched a little bit, like I said, overnight

464
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<v Speaker 3>when I'm doing the show, and it's like I've seen

465
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<v Speaker 3>Snoop around Paris, wandering around doing different things and whatnot.

466
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<v Speaker 3>How many people are tuning in because of him?

467
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<v Speaker 4>How do you know?

468
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<v Speaker 1>How?

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<v Speaker 4>You can't? You can't measure that, can you?

470
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<v Speaker 1>No, you can't. I mean their primetime numbers are good.

471
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<v Speaker 1>You can't specifically say, although they do all kinds of research,

472
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<v Speaker 1>how many people are tuning in specifically for him?

473
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<v Speaker 3>Like you could argue he makes it more enjoyable, right,

474
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<v Speaker 3>because he's Snoop Dogg and all that, But five hundred thousand,

475
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<v Speaker 3>my goodness, who's his agent?

476
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<v Speaker 1>Fred? Well?

477
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<v Speaker 4>I gotta get his agent.

478
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<v Speaker 1>But look at it like this. Do we know if

479
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<v Speaker 1>they're tuning in for him? We don't, But given their rating,

480
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<v Speaker 1>we believe they're not tuning away to get away from them.

481
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<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're waiting for him. I mean, the Olympics are

482
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<v Speaker 1>in primetime coverage of the Olympics, especially when everything is completed,

483
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<v Speaker 1>you're just telling stories now. And NBC was very serious

484
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<v Speaker 1>with that in primetime in the past, when everything was done,

485
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<v Speaker 1>you still have to do the primetime show. Now they've

486
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<v Speaker 1>given it a little pizzazz, little personality. I've seen some

487
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<v Speaker 1>of Snoop stuff, and I think in my five minutes, honestly,

488
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<v Speaker 1>I think I've seen him three times. Some of it

489
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<v Speaker 1>I like, and some of it I think is okay,

490
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<v Speaker 1>But it's Snoop and people like Snoop.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, no, for sure.

492
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<v Speaker 3>So this is now because of the success. I know

493
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<v Speaker 3>the Olympics aren't over yet. It's fair to say when

494
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<v Speaker 3>they come to LA a few years that they're gonna

495
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<v Speaker 3>bring Snoop back or will he be too old at

496
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<v Speaker 3>that point?

497
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<v Speaker 4>Are they gonna have to find the next Snoop?

498
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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, no no no. That's one thing.

499
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<v Speaker 1>If it works, they'll do it. You'll the difference. The

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<v Speaker 1>difference with the LA Games though, because it will be

501
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<v Speaker 1>on the West Coast. It'll all be live. Yeah, the

502
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<v Speaker 1>only tape so you'll get tapes on the West Coast,

503
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<v Speaker 1>probably starting at nine o'clock at night, which is late

504
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<v Speaker 1>night on the East Coast, but they'll call it Primetime

505
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<v Speaker 1>Plus here and then everything will be done basically, so

506
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<v Speaker 1>they'll go to tape. But the West Coast Olympics, that

507
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<v Speaker 1>will blow the roof off everything because everything will basically

508
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<v Speaker 1>be live. You don't need to tape anything. It's all

509
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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen live.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is annoying because I don't know when I'm

511
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<v Speaker 3>watching the Olympics often, whether when I'm watching already happen

512
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<v Speaker 3>or I know when I'm there at night doing the

513
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<v Speaker 3>overnight show. I know that that stuff's going on because

514
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<v Speaker 3>of the time preference, but sometimes even during the day,

515
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<v Speaker 3>like I don't know, Like I have the basketball game

516
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<v Speaker 3>up by the way, the US team kicking the snot

517
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<v Speaker 3>out of Brazil.

518
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<v Speaker 1>Fred.

519
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<v Speaker 4>I know you had that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they're going to cover the spread,

521
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<v Speaker 3>but I don't know. I'm not sure, Like I'm like,

522
00:24:10.880 --> 00:24:12.920
<v Speaker 3>is that live? Is this has already happened. I hate

523
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<v Speaker 3>watching sports that have already happened. I don't want to

524
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<v Speaker 3>do it. I want to watch it live or else.

525
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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to watch sports. That's just so I'm wired.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>I also, by the way, that's why I haven't watched

528
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<v Speaker 6>the primetime coverage because by the time prime time has happened,

529
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<v Speaker 6>literally everything is done right at the final event over there,

530
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<v Speaker 6>I think is finished by like one o'clock in the

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<v Speaker 6>afternoon our time.

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<v Speaker 5>So by the time we're off the air here, Ben,

533
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<v Speaker 5>you'll know everything that happened today already.

534
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm right there. I can't do it. I can't

535
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<v Speaker 4>watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, But that's why the LA Olympics will be so

537
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<v Speaker 1>highly rated across every platform because you'll be able to

538
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<v Speaker 1>see everything live. The other thing I want to say

539
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<v Speaker 1>about the games coming to LA in twenty eight and

540
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<v Speaker 1>there are people concerned, what's it going to do? They'll

541
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<v Speaker 1>be cost overruns and the taxpayers will have to make

542
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<v Speaker 1>up for it. There's a good chance there'll be some

543
00:24:58.079 --> 00:25:00.640
<v Speaker 1>cost overruns. Yeah, that's going to happen. And the other

544
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<v Speaker 1>thing is traffic's gonna be a nightmare. It's gonna be

545
00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:07.440
<v Speaker 1>a nightmare getting around everywhere. It's awful. It's going to

546
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<v Speaker 1>impact everybody.

547
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<v Speaker 3>Spoiler alert, Fred, It's always awful, Fred, It's always terrible.

548
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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's the spoiler alert. Here's the reality. When the

549
00:25:15.519 --> 00:25:18.559
<v Speaker 1>games are here in eighty four, everybody said the same thing,

550
00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:21.680
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a nightmare, worse than it

551
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:25.000
<v Speaker 1>normally is. So try not to travel, try to stay

552
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<v Speaker 1>off the roads. For sixteen days, nobody drove anywhere. For

553
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<v Speaker 1>sixteen days. You could go from La to San Diego.

554
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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like in fifty minutes, no one was on

555
00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>the road. Everybody stayed off the road. And I gotta

556
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<v Speaker 1>tell you, I think a lot of that is gonna

557
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<v Speaker 1>happen when the Games come in Los Angeles in twenty eight.

558
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<v Speaker 1>I don't think, oh God, this is gonna be awful.

559
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<v Speaker 1>We've already had this one and nobody was on the road.

560
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<v Speaker 1>I'm dead serious. It looked like a ghost.

561
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<v Speaker 3>Well remember a few years ago, I guess been a

562
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<v Speaker 3>few years of many years, we had Karma Gaydon. They

563
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<v Speaker 3>were closing out of the four h five and I

564
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<v Speaker 3>think the company got me a hotel room because they

565
00:26:01.359 --> 00:26:03.039
<v Speaker 3>were worried I would not be able to leave the

566
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<v Speaker 3>studio in Sherman Oaks.

567
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<v Speaker 4>And no, nobody's on the roads that day.

568
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<v Speaker 3>But the thing, also, you talk about the Olympic experience,

569
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<v Speaker 3>we mentioned this last week when you were traveling go

570
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<v Speaker 3>to baseball Gainst me and Jonas, we were like, they're

571
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<v Speaker 3>going to clean up like all the a lot of

572
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<v Speaker 3>the things we hate right now, like you know, people

573
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<v Speaker 3>down on the skid rows everywhere these they're going to

574
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<v Speaker 3>clean all that up, right for the Olympics that they're

575
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<v Speaker 3>going to clean up the entire city. It's gonna be

576
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<v Speaker 3>amazing in twenty twenty eight because they're going to present

577
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:31.960
<v Speaker 3>that to the world and so they're gonna get rid

578
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<v Speaker 3>of a lot of things that are just annoying to

579
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<v Speaker 3>us on our day to day lives.

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<v Speaker 4>They're gonna clean all that up.

581
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<v Speaker 1>Well, they're going to try to clean it up. This

582
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:44.559
<v Speaker 1>is another complaint that the coverage will not truly reflect

583
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<v Speaker 1>what la is. So here's the thing you have to understand.

584
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<v Speaker 1>NBC coverage always No, they're not going to show homeless

585
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<v Speaker 1>people on the street. They don't do that. They're going

586
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<v Speaker 1>to show the motest picturesque shots they can find. The

587
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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood sign, right, it's going to be a travelogue. It's

588
00:27:02.279 --> 00:27:05.599
<v Speaker 1>going to be a picture postcard. And that's what will happen.

589
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:08.000
<v Speaker 1>If you think they're going to show some guy knocking

590
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:12.119
<v Speaker 1>off of seven to eleven and acting in a freeway chase.

591
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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna happen. Well, you're not being fair and

592
00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 1>you're not being honest, and you're not showing what it

593
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.200
<v Speaker 1>really is like here. Well, first, to be honest with you,

594
00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:25.319
<v Speaker 1>no one cares. No one around the world cares. If

595
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:27.720
<v Speaker 1>there are people on skid row. It's terrible. We don't

596
00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:30.480
<v Speaker 1>want them there. But do you really think somebody watching

597
00:27:30.519 --> 00:27:33.799
<v Speaker 1>in Brazil wants to see homeless people on skid row?

598
00:27:34.480 --> 00:27:38.519
<v Speaker 1>So no, they're not going to show that. And yes,

599
00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:41.880
<v Speaker 1>every angle of everything they shoot is going to be

600
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<v Speaker 1>from the perfect angle because that's what they want to portray.

601
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<v Speaker 1>You can't get into a situation where you think, well

602
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<v Speaker 1>this is just as an honest, honest to who honest

603
00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.359
<v Speaker 1>to you? Well, maybe they don't think what you feel

604
00:27:56.359 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 1>as important is and I read that, Well, they're just

605
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<v Speaker 1>not going to be on about what the city is.

606
00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:04.640
<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be honest. They're gonna give the world the

607
00:28:04.720 --> 00:28:08.119
<v Speaker 1>view of La that La wants the world to see.

608
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<v Speaker 1>And there's nothing wrong with that.

609
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<v Speaker 3>Really, Well, they're doing it right now in Paris. Right,

610
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<v Speaker 3>you see things on the internet that are not being

611
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<v Speaker 3>reported about certain issues in the local community there in Paris,

612
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<v Speaker 3>they're not being talked about. So the same thing's going

613
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<v Speaker 3>on there.

614
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<v Speaker 5>That they didn't soach you as well.

615
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<v Speaker 6>By the way, well documented the issues out there a

616
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:27.519
<v Speaker 6>few years ago for the Winter Olympics.

617
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<v Speaker 1>When we would go when we would go to the

618
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<v Speaker 1>Olympic seminars and Dick Ebersol was still in charge, and

619
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<v Speaker 1>it would stand up in the front with David Neil

620
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<v Speaker 1>who now runs Fox Soccer and he was the executive

621
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<v Speaker 1>producer of the Olympics, would dig and they would have

622
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<v Speaker 1>this meeting and they would tell us every single time,

623
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<v Speaker 1>you don't work for NBC News. That's not why you

624
00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>are here. NBC News will be here and they will

625
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:58.160
<v Speaker 1>cover news. You work for NBC Sports and NBC Olympics

626
00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:02.599
<v Speaker 1>and we will do the Olympics. That's our job. So

627
00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>don't start making political statements, are talking about things that

628
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.359
<v Speaker 1>you have seen that you think are wrong, because that's

629
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<v Speaker 1>not why you're here. We have a whole news department

630
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<v Speaker 1>to do that, a news division, and if they choose

631
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<v Speaker 1>to do it, they will and that's really how they

632
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<v Speaker 1>do it. They tell you ahead of time, you're here

633
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<v Speaker 1>for the games. That's it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the political stuff. I agree, you want to unplug.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm old school for it. I watched my sports. I

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<v Speaker 3>want to unplug from all the nonsense. Yeah, watching the game.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to hear about it. I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to have it shoved down my throat.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 3>I can make my own decisions when it comes to that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't need you to you direct me one

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<v Speaker 3>way or another.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm all right. I'm fine with that.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, here's a question. Yes, let's say your one,

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<v Speaker 1>for argument's sake, five hundred thousand dollars. We're just talking

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<v Speaker 1>about that. You wonderful, Ben, congratulations, you want five hundred

647
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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. Yes, and your family member comes and says,

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<v Speaker 1>give me some of that money because I'm in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do it?

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<v Speaker 4>How close a family member are they?

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<v Speaker 1>Fred, We'll have to get into that.

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<v Speaker 6>By the way, since Ben did ask twenty seven minus

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<v Speaker 6>twenty seventh, the United States was against Brazil. There are

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<v Speaker 6>currently up by twenty nine late in the third quarter.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, it's gonna be a nail. By the lot of

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<v Speaker 4>time left, A lot of time left, a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, a lot of degenerate sweating right now, there.

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<v Speaker 4>Back door cover, possibly backdoor cover for Brazil.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, so many people interested. You're right, Brazil USA Olympic basketball.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the United States will cover. That's my pick.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, yeah, you also with that, Anthony Rendau won't be

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<v Speaker 6>healthy the rest of the year too, So I'm not

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<v Speaker 6>taking confidence in your bets there, Fred.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm taking. I'm taking Brazil plus the points as am

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<v Speaker 4>I record.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all right, well fine, don't listen to me. But

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<v Speaker 1>then again, I'm never right, so you shouldn't listen to me.

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<v Speaker 4>What's that.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Ben Maller in today, Rodney, Ben, we really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you sitting in.

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<v Speaker 4>It's good to be here, Fred, it is what are you?

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<v Speaker 4>What are you laughing at? I laugh at?

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<v Speaker 1>I no, And we do appreciate it. All right. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's the deal. On Reddit, we found this story. You

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<v Speaker 1>tell me what you would do.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Woman wins a lottery. She wins five hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>pre tax. All right, She's going to use that money

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<v Speaker 1>to pay off some student loans, do some stuff. She's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight years old. Her brother her Her brother calls her.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, hey, you know what, I got my own problems?

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<v Speaker 1>Give me thirty grand. Give me thirty grand. I need

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<v Speaker 1>thirty grand. The woman thinks about it and says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>he's been struggling financially for years. He can't manage money,

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<v Speaker 1>He's had some bad luck, he's got a ton of debt.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, I've seen him go through the money before.

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<v Speaker 1>The sister said she sympathized with him, but she's not

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<v Speaker 1>sure giving him a large amount of money will solve

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<v Speaker 1>the problem in the long term because she's seen him

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<v Speaker 1>blow through it. She said she was willing to help

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<v Speaker 1>him create a budget plan, give him a smaller amount

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<v Speaker 1>like five grand to help with immediate needs, but then

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<v Speaker 1>he got upset. There are people that suggested she was

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<v Speaker 1>being selfish and not caring about the family. What would

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<v Speaker 1>you do?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So, based on what you told me, Fred,

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's right that if this guy blows every family,

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<v Speaker 3>my family, all my friends, we all have at least

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<v Speaker 3>one or two people that are really bad with their

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<v Speaker 3>money and make poor choices and end up going broke

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<v Speaker 3>and messing around. And so if he's that person for

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<v Speaker 3>the family, I think she's doing the smart thing not

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<v Speaker 3>giving him thirty thousand, because they'll just blow through the money.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you set him up, if you set him

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<v Speaker 3>up on some kind of plan where like, if you

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<v Speaker 3>you're discipline, you'll get more money. I think that's the

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<v Speaker 3>way to handle situation. Absolutely, I say you should do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but that makes her look selfish, and that makes

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<v Speaker 1>her look controlling, and that makes her look like she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't love her brother because her brother needs the money

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<v Speaker 1>and she didn't give it to him. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you. I agree with you.

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<v Speaker 4>You're on the right side.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred, Yeah, I do. You know you have trouble managing money.

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<v Speaker 1>You've blown through your money. Granted you've had some bad luck,

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<v Speaker 1>we all have, but you're basically pissed through your money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know people like that. I know people like that. Sure,

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<v Speaker 1>you give somebody ten grand and two weeks later there's

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<v Speaker 1>no money left, you know people like this. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the first thing you do is you take the

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<v Speaker 3>tax money out. That's the first thing you do, right, so.

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<v Speaker 4>That it's five hundred thousand, But after how much is

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<v Speaker 4>that after taxes?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's gonna be about two seventy.

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<v Speaker 3>About two seventy al right, so you have two seventy

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<v Speaker 3>to play with. Then he wants thirty thousand, So now

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<v Speaker 3>you're down to two forty. But she probably wants to

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<v Speaker 3>buy house or put it down pay I know where

729
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<v Speaker 3>she lives, but put it down, payment down or something

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<v Speaker 3>like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Now she, by the way, Ben, she had already calculated,

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<v Speaker 6>so she's gonna get about five hundred thousand after taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>So get.

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<v Speaker 5>How much he's taking from after taxes, that's all you get.

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Well that changes a little bit, but still

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<v Speaker 3>it's five hundred thousand, and money's not what it used

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<v Speaker 3>to be today.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, I still would.

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<v Speaker 3>I would put him on a plane and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to follow the rules and then you'll get

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<v Speaker 3>more money.

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<v Speaker 1>But instead of saying thank you, you know what, I

744
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<v Speaker 1>need help. You're gonna give me a little bit to

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<v Speaker 1>get started here, and then thank you, I need help.

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<v Speaker 1>The mindset is, well, why are you being so cheap?

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<v Speaker 1>Just give me all the money?

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<v Speaker 4>How do you How do you find out about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Though?

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<v Speaker 4>If you win the lottery, shouldn't you not tell anyone?

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<v Speaker 1>If well, she told her family.

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<v Speaker 5>She told her parents, and her parents told her brother.

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<v Speaker 5>That's how he.

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<v Speaker 4>Found out the parents the parents.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what would you do?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Listening there's a less Think about it for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you do? You win money? Family member comes

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<v Speaker 1>to you and says, give me some of that money.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I'm in trouble, but you know the history

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<v Speaker 1>of the family member, and you know that they're really

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<v Speaker 1>gonna blow right through that money and be right back

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<v Speaker 1>to where they were. You come up with a plan.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll help you, I'll help you get to where you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be. And the other person says, well, now

766
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<v Speaker 1>you're being selfish. I'm not a child, you can't control me.

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<v Speaker 1>Just give me the money. What would you do? Listening

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I'm gonna just I'll give out the number.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe somebody will call after the break eight six six

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<v Speaker 1>nine eighty seven two five seventy. You one family member

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<v Speaker 1>needs help. You agree to help them with conditions because

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<v Speaker 1>you know how they've been. They say, you're being selfish

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<v Speaker 1>A six six nine eight seven two five seventy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what would you do? Oh if they'll be along next

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<v Speaker 1>hour as well with the high coup and we have.

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<v Speaker 3>A you know what Vick would do. He'd just give

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<v Speaker 3>out the money. Wouldn't he just say you get money,

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<v Speaker 3>you get money, you get money. He'd just give all

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<v Speaker 3>the money, Yeah, exactly, he'd have nothing left. He'd have

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<v Speaker 3>to win the lottery again, right, and with his luck

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<v Speaker 3>he would