WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.800 --> 00:00:05.599 The following presentation is abol Marvis Studio's production. 2 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:29.039 When you look me on the sky, do you feel 3 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:38.159 the poll question? Why the stories told and left behind 4 00:00:39.240 --> 00:00:40.280 in shadows? 5 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:42.880 Where the truth we find? 6 00:00:44.719 --> 00:00:50.159 They built their tails on crafts and lies on. 7 00:00:50.439 --> 00:00:54.039 Theories they stake their designed. 8 00:00:55.079 --> 00:00:59.799 Put down here on this solid ground. 9 00:01:00.000 --> 00:01:03.640 Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time 10 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:07.480 for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. I'm 11 00:01:07.519 --> 00:01:10.599 your host is always George Jobs. As we record on 12 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.959 this Friday, February twenty first, twenty twenty five. I hope 13 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:17.480 everybody is doing well. We have a great guest standing by. 14 00:01:17.560 --> 00:01:19.319 We'll get to in just a moment. Before we do 15 00:01:19.959 --> 00:01:22.439 two quick notes, Please do stop by the website, the 16 00:01:22.480 --> 00:01:26.760 flat earthfiles dot com. Check out our blog post, the 17 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:29.719 chat room, the forum. There's lots to do there. Again, 18 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:32.879 it's the flat Earthfiles dot com. And if you would 19 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:36.840 like to join the podcast like Laura is today, please 20 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:42.439 send us an email to FE filesguest at gmail dot com. 21 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:48.120 And again that is FE filesguest at gmail dot com. 22 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:51.400 And without any further ado, let's bring on our guest today. 23 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:55.560 Her name is Laura and she is joining us from Germany. Laura, 24 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:56.400 how are you today. 25 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:01.400 Good evening from me. It's evening. Yes, I'm pretty nervous 26 00:02:01.439 --> 00:02:04.599 because it's not my comfort zone to speak in English, 27 00:02:04.599 --> 00:02:06.480 but yeah, okay. 28 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:09.639 You're doing great and my best. Hey, we talked for 29 00:02:09.639 --> 00:02:11.639 a while before we hit the record button. You're doing 30 00:02:11.759 --> 00:02:14.719 just fine. And again, I do appreciate you coming on. 31 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:18.000 It's so cool to have people from around the world. 32 00:02:18.039 --> 00:02:23.000 We've had Canada, Australia, you know, many European folks, South America. 33 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.360 I just spoke to someone in South America the other day, 34 00:02:25.439 --> 00:02:29.280 so I'm very thankful that you know, this message gets 35 00:02:29.319 --> 00:02:31.960 spread around the world. So let's kick things off and 36 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:34.520 introduce yourself to the audience. 37 00:02:36.120 --> 00:02:41.199 Okay, my name is Laura. I'm thirty seven. I have 38 00:02:41.680 --> 00:02:44.560 one child, almost three another on the way. 39 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:47.240 Congratulations. 40 00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:53.680 I am pretty new, fully awake. I would say I 41 00:02:53.719 --> 00:03:00.840 got a little bit awake with the pandemic, but yeah, 42 00:03:01.560 --> 00:03:07.000 my really big awakening was when I came to Jesus 43 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:13.479 Christ and that really opened my eyes. And yeah, that 44 00:03:13.680 --> 00:03:18.240 was only about a half year ago. 45 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:22.120 I'm so happy to hear that. But that is the 46 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:26.960 most important truth, you know, somebody can think come upon. 47 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:32.080 So it's so good to hear that. That's awesome. Let's 48 00:03:32.120 --> 00:03:36.319 start from kind of you know, your email here, How 49 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:39.520 did you know from your point of view in Germany? 50 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:42.800 What was it like when March twenty twenty kicked off 51 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.120 through the vaccine push. What was life like to you? 52 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:48.759 And when did you start to notice that there was 53 00:03:48.879 --> 00:03:50.879 just something not right about what was going on. 54 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:56.360 I felt from the beginning like it was only a flu, 55 00:03:56.599 --> 00:04:01.759 and I thought it's crazy by were all the peering, 56 00:04:02.080 --> 00:04:08.719 all the people freaking out wearing masks. I couldn't understand. 57 00:04:08.879 --> 00:04:12.400 So I was very skeptic from the beginning, and I 58 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:17.480 had the lack that a very good friend of mine, 59 00:04:17.720 --> 00:04:23.279 she was already into conspiracy as a quote a quote 60 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:30.959 conspiracy theories, and she really brought me facts that I thought, okay, wow, 61 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:38.040 But by at that time I only thought that the 62 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:42.920 rich wanted to become richer and I didn't understand the 63 00:04:42.959 --> 00:04:44.639 whole concept behind it. 64 00:04:45.040 --> 00:04:49.000 So yeah, well, well that certainly played a large part 65 00:04:49.079 --> 00:04:53.319 in it, seeing you know, as it was the largest 66 00:04:53.399 --> 00:04:58.199 wealth transfer and history, and then like here in the States, 67 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:02.160 it was very up setting to see people who have 68 00:05:02.279 --> 00:05:07.040 had family owned businesses for generations be told to shut 69 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:12.360 down and unfortunately, you know, many of those were not 70 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:15.639 able to recover. One of the things that I remember, 71 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:20.360 I spent time in Kaiserslot and bad Kissing Gin, you know, 72 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:25.399 around Ramstein Frankfurt. It seemed to me, and again this 73 00:05:25.519 --> 00:05:29.279 is oh geez, you know, twenty twenty five years ago, now, 74 00:05:30.360 --> 00:05:34.360 the different times I was there, there was to me 75 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:37.839 it felt like there was more small businesses in Europe 76 00:05:38.680 --> 00:05:41.439 than there was in the United States. So did you 77 00:05:41.519 --> 00:05:44.279 see a lot of the same, you know, with the 78 00:05:44.319 --> 00:05:46.920 small businesses where they suffering. Did a lot of them 79 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:49.319 close during that you know, twenty twenty era. 80 00:05:50.519 --> 00:05:58.360 Yeah, for sure, they suffered, had to get in debts 81 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:05.839 to get over the time, and some or a lot 82 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:08.720 of them closed, That's for sure. 83 00:06:09.040 --> 00:06:13.560 That's that's upsetting to hear. So you know, you start 84 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:18.040 to wake up with that and thankfully, you know, you 85 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:23.040 find Jesus and you ask the Holy Spirit to show 86 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.519 you the truth. And it led you to a lot 87 00:06:25.519 --> 00:06:29.120 of rabbit holes. So, like I mentioned the other day 88 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:32.800 that and I know I've said this probably twenty times, 89 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:35.959 but if if flat Earth would have been the first 90 00:06:36.079 --> 00:06:39.600 rabbit hole I came on, I would have never looked 91 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:42.199 into it because it just didn't make sense. To me. 92 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:46.639 But once yeah, as soon as I started seeing that 93 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:49.040 everything else was a lie, I was able to consider it. 94 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:52.240 So was this the first one for you or was 95 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:59.839 there others that you came upon first after COVID? 96 00:07:00.839 --> 00:07:06.800 To be honest, the first one. But for me, the 97 00:07:06.839 --> 00:07:11.279 biggest surprise to say is that Satan was real and 98 00:07:11.399 --> 00:07:15.920 that it's all a big deception. That was for me 99 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:19.319 that wow, I couldn't believe it. 100 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:23.639 And then once you realize Satan was real, then you 101 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:25.959 also And that's what I try to say. It's interesting 102 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.279 that there are a lot of atheists out there who 103 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:32.959 acknowledge that, you know, these evil Satan worshipers that run 104 00:07:33.000 --> 00:07:36.040 the world. So if you're going to acknowledge that, then 105 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:39.720 then I think maybe eventually they realized, well there's a Satan, 106 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:41.240 they must be a god, right. 107 00:07:42.720 --> 00:07:45.040 Exactly. But for me it was the other way around. 108 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:49.120 I found God and then I realized, okay, they really 109 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:50.360 worship Satan. 110 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:54.360 Yeah, and the Bible is is pretty clear about who 111 00:07:54.439 --> 00:08:00.160 runs the world we live in right now. So what 112 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:02.680 led you to fly? What was it? Your friend? Was 113 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:06.759 it a video? How did you come upon? Well? I 114 00:08:06.759 --> 00:08:10.120 should even ask like, did you even entertain flat Earth? Before. 115 00:08:10.240 --> 00:08:13.639 Was it something you ever really paid attention to? What 116 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:15.199 led you down to that rabbit hole? 117 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:20.959 Yeah, it was really interesting. In the rear view my 118 00:08:21.120 --> 00:08:27.040 friend which introduced me to the COVID stuff, and she 119 00:08:27.279 --> 00:08:30.800 mentioned that they are flat earths. At that time, I 120 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:35.200 was like, what really people who believe the earth is flat? 121 00:08:36.200 --> 00:08:41.559 I couldn't believe it. And I think now that really 122 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:47.320 God brought me to the work where I am now 123 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:50.919 because my two dear colleagues are a big part of 124 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:55.399 my awakening because they're very close to God. And one 125 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:59.600 of them is already I don't know how long flat earth, 126 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:04.840 and he told me from the beginning. But then I thought, okay, 127 00:09:05.799 --> 00:09:11.559 he's very nice colleague, but he's a little bit crazy 128 00:09:12.240 --> 00:09:17.960 something like that. But when I came to Jesus Christ 129 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:23.759 and asked to tell me to well, I could find 130 00:09:23.879 --> 00:09:30.799 the truth. Yeah. I think the Holy Spirit really guide 131 00:09:30.840 --> 00:09:35.759 me there that I and answered everything. 132 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:40.679 Yeah, And you know, Jesus does. I think he gives 133 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:42.759 us when we turn our lives over to him. He 134 00:09:42.799 --> 00:09:46.320 gives us discernment, which means I think that we're able 135 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:50.240 to see things that are lies more easily than maybe 136 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:52.879 people who don't, people who are in the you know 137 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:55.360 what did they say? People who are of the world 138 00:09:55.399 --> 00:09:59.720 not in the world right. And the more we continue 139 00:09:59.759 --> 00:10:02.559 to re research these things, the more we realize that 140 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:06.440 you know, much of are what we were told about 141 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:10.919 is based on lies. How long did it take you, 142 00:10:10.919 --> 00:10:14.879 you know, once you did your research and you were 143 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:18.960 convinced that, you know, the Earth was relatively flat, and 144 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:24.240 you know the model that we we talk about, did 145 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:30.080 you understand because it for many people that it usually connects, 146 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:33.879 but there's a different length of time that the globe 147 00:10:34.279 --> 00:10:37.960 was created to hide God, and you know, and how 148 00:10:37.960 --> 00:10:41.480 it ties in with say evolution and the Big Bang 149 00:10:41.559 --> 00:10:43.440 theory and things of that nature that are used to 150 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:46.159 either hide or trivialize God. 151 00:10:50.399 --> 00:10:54.399 I think it was almost only one evening to go 152 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:57.720 through a lot of ideos. My colleague, of course, knew 153 00:10:57.879 --> 00:11:04.279 already and sent me and I was already almost convinced. 154 00:11:04.879 --> 00:11:09.279 Let's flat. Yeah, it's pretty interesting because one of my 155 00:11:09.399 --> 00:11:15.480 first I made a few notes. One of the first 156 00:11:15.840 --> 00:11:20.639 things we found out in German Wikipedia the word for 157 00:11:20.799 --> 00:11:29.919 planet it says is also to deceive. Was pretty interesting. 158 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:35.399 And then what I liked a lot were the videos 159 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:41.799 from Flatters and Coffee He did a great job explaining 160 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:49.600 also signs and that out of space cannot work. And yeah, 161 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:53.840 then all the operation paper clip and all the stuff 162 00:11:53.879 --> 00:12:01.240 like that. I was pretty fast at all the that's great. 163 00:12:01.639 --> 00:12:04.759 Yes, And that's something again I talk about when we 164 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:09.279 read the Bible and using Strong's concordance. The word planet 165 00:12:09.320 --> 00:12:11.919 comes from the Greek word I don't know if I'm 166 00:12:11.919 --> 00:12:14.600 pronouncing it right, but it's like plano p l a 167 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:21.159 n ao, and the definition is to lead astray, to deceive, 168 00:12:22.159 --> 00:12:26.039 or to cause to wander. And that's what they call them, right, 169 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:29.120 the wandering stars. But at the same time they're sending 170 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:31.840 us wandering away from the true meaning of these things. 171 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:36.399 And again, for those who do use the Strong concordance, 172 00:12:36.480 --> 00:12:39.279 it is entry number forty one oh five. And I'll 173 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:41.639 make sure that I cite this in the show in 174 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:45.240 the show notes so people can see this. And even 175 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:51.679 the Hebrew equivalent is often associated with deception or leading astray. 176 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:55.480 So you've got a Greek explanation and you have a 177 00:12:55.559 --> 00:13:06.120 Hebrew explanation telling you that is to basically be deceived, Yes, sir, yeah, 178 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:07.279 and go ahead. 179 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:13.919 It was also interesting because my colleague, which had almost 180 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.240 at the same time the awakening with the flat Earth 181 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:22.399 as the younger colleague, and he heard a podcast and 182 00:13:24.159 --> 00:13:29.799 then his thoughts stray around and he thought, like God believes, 183 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:33.559 show me the truth? Is the earth maybe really flat 184 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:40.120 and exact? In that second the voice in the podcast 185 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:45.159 that indeed, And that was a little bit his start 186 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:47.039 to dig in there. 187 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:51.679 Really which you said, which podcast? 188 00:13:51.799 --> 00:13:58.120 Was it a German one? It's a Christian podcast. 189 00:13:57.840 --> 00:13:59.919 Okay, and they actually discussed flat Earth on it. 190 00:14:00.039 --> 00:14:07.120 Yeah, no, okay, out of the context that the timing 191 00:14:07.240 --> 00:14:09.639 was perfect. So he thought that was a sign from God. 192 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:13.080 Gotcha, that makes sense. Let me ask you this, just 193 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:17.080 for curiosity reasons. How did you find my podcast? 194 00:14:19.399 --> 00:14:24.799 My young accolague? He just thought maybe there's a podcast 195 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:30.679 on Spotify, and so he found you that his English 196 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:33.639 is not that good, and so I think he gave 197 00:14:33.759 --> 00:14:37.879 up after a few episodes, and I was so caught. 198 00:14:38.480 --> 00:14:43.320 And so my wife speaks German. Maybe I'll have her 199 00:14:43.559 --> 00:14:49.000 translate them in German. She can do German, a little 200 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:50.399 bit of Russian and Hungarian. 201 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:51.240 Ah. 202 00:14:51.559 --> 00:14:56.600 Well, yeah, there's so much to talk about. What I'd 203 00:14:56.639 --> 00:14:58.279 like to get into this because there's so many other 204 00:14:58.320 --> 00:15:01.039 things I want to talk about. So let's talk about 205 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:05.960 the evidences that convinced you that, you know, the whole 206 00:15:06.000 --> 00:15:09.720 heliocentric model was a lie. You know, was it the curvature, 207 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:12.600 was it the water? What were the strongest pieces of 208 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:15.120 evidence to you that you know that the ball was 209 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:19.039 a lie? 210 00:15:19.559 --> 00:15:25.320 Yeah? I remembered that as a child. I also thought, 211 00:15:27.000 --> 00:15:29.679 how does it come that the people that are at 212 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.600 the bottom do not realize that they're. 213 00:15:33.440 --> 00:15:34.320 They're upside down? 214 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:40.240 Yes, exactly, And so I think already as a child, 215 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:45.279 I had my doubts too, And yeah, now it was 216 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:52.480 really more the real science that you can observe, like 217 00:15:52.679 --> 00:15:56.360 that you can see too far, that the water always 218 00:15:56.720 --> 00:16:05.840 always levels, Yeah, stuff like that. And I think then 219 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:14.080 all the other stories with the Germans and the NASA 220 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:20.320 and stuff like this, Yeah, it all came to one conclusion. 221 00:16:21.159 --> 00:16:25.679 You know, I've been thinking about this because I'm starting 222 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:29.240 to find that even when we go down rabbit holes 223 00:16:29.360 --> 00:16:34.240 and we find things like Operation paper Clip, I wonder 224 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:37.720 how much of the disclosure they give us is even 225 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.759 factually based that that you know what I mean that 226 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:44.799 you know, these people were our arch enemies for for 227 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.159 four or five years, and we just brought them in 228 00:16:48.200 --> 00:16:52.559 and made them the head of these organizations. You know, 229 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:55.399 it could be a plot more deeper than we think 230 00:16:56.639 --> 00:17:01.279 for sure. Now you mentioned that you often try to 231 00:17:01.360 --> 00:17:07.640 leave you no breadcrumbs for your friends. Have you had 232 00:17:07.759 --> 00:17:11.359 any success in other than your colleague who you guys 233 00:17:11.359 --> 00:17:13.480 are able to communicate with. Have you had any luck, 234 00:17:14.799 --> 00:17:17.160 you know, getting people to look into flat earth? 235 00:17:19.000 --> 00:17:24.680 Sadly not. I think I overplayed my hand with my husband. 236 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:30.799 Oh yeah, and he thought, oh, she's brain rushed for 237 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:39.279 her colleagues at work. Because that's why I am glad 238 00:17:39.279 --> 00:17:45.480 that he's not there today. That's why I send you this, 239 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:52.559 this appointment as a possibility to talk, because I think 240 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:54.640 it has to cool down a little bit and I'll 241 00:17:54.680 --> 00:18:00.519 try try again. I left a little bread drums for 242 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:07.839 my mother, but she didn't. I think also in COVID, 243 00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:14.680 even there, I left her very very much bread CRuMs. 244 00:18:14.759 --> 00:18:23.680 But she's nah hard to get through, is there? I'm trying? 245 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:28.400 Yeah, sure, we all do. Do you think that? What 246 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:32.039 do you think the reason is that, in your opinion, 247 00:18:32.640 --> 00:18:38.160 that her people are so closed minded and unwilling to 248 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:41.559 look into these things specifically after I think even you 249 00:18:41.559 --> 00:18:46.759 know I've said this before, even the most person who 250 00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:49.559 just doesn't pay attention to this kind of stuff, even 251 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:52.759 they saw it a little bit during COVID. So what 252 00:18:52.920 --> 00:18:56.440 what is this? Is it a self defense mechanism? Is 253 00:18:56.480 --> 00:18:59.599 it just they're they're so programmed? Why is it? Do 254 00:18:59.599 --> 00:19:04.599 you think people are so unwilling to look into these things? 255 00:19:05.119 --> 00:19:10.680 I think part of it is maybe inside not aware 256 00:19:10.799 --> 00:19:14.400 of but fear to find out what's really going on 257 00:19:14.839 --> 00:19:20.720 in the world that it's really so evil. And yes, 258 00:19:21.880 --> 00:19:29.720 the indoctrination, of course, is one part. And I also 259 00:19:29.799 --> 00:19:34.400 think it's a little bit of the character of the person, 260 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:40.960 how they how open they are to look into it. 261 00:19:42.160 --> 00:19:48.759 And I have the feeling that in some person the 262 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:58.319 Holy Spirit works too. Yeah, that you have to dive 263 00:19:58.480 --> 00:19:59.480 into the truth. 264 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:05.720 Yeah, I agree, And like you said earlier, there is 265 00:20:05.759 --> 00:20:08.079 something when you give your life to Christ that you 266 00:20:08.119 --> 00:20:11.839 do have the ability to see all the lies. It's 267 00:20:11.880 --> 00:20:14.559 you know, what's interesting you mentioned that for some people 268 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:19.079 there is a fear of seeing the truth. But what's 269 00:20:19.119 --> 00:20:24.599 funny is once you take the time and look into 270 00:20:24.640 --> 00:20:28.799 it and find out the truths, there is no fear, 271 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:37.839 right because yeah, right, and you know you're gonna you know, 272 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:40.960 once you're done this realm you'll be in heaven for eternity. 273 00:20:41.240 --> 00:20:44.920 But also the quote unquote worldly things, right. You know, 274 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:49.079 you may laugh, but with all the news of meteor 275 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:51.680 hitting the earth, I guarantee you there are people around 276 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:54.960 the world that are stressing out and talking about, oh no, 277 00:20:55.200 --> 00:20:59.960 in seven years, there's a chance, you know, the media 278 00:21:00.200 --> 00:21:03.440 could end civilization as we know it and all of 279 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:07.119 these other things that you know. You know, the people 280 00:21:07.160 --> 00:21:09.799 who work for Satan try to instill fear in us 281 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:12.559 because that takes the attention away from God because we 282 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:16.160 shouldn't have fear because you know of our faith. So 283 00:21:17.400 --> 00:21:19.359 you know, while we are flawed, while we are human, 284 00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.319 while we do all have fears. Once you realize that 285 00:21:22.440 --> 00:21:24.559 yes we have a firmament and how the world is 286 00:21:24.599 --> 00:21:27.480 truly constructed, those fears go away. 287 00:21:29.119 --> 00:21:31.359 Yes, I feel really protected. 288 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:36.920 You had mentioned, and this is something that I like 289 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:38.680 to talk about. And if I'm jumping the gun here, 290 00:21:38.960 --> 00:21:42.559 just let me know. But for me, you know, when 291 00:21:42.559 --> 00:21:47.359 I came across Manly P's Manley P. Hall's book and 292 00:21:47.519 --> 00:21:51.440 he started talking about how to if you recognize you know, 293 00:21:51.480 --> 00:21:55.119 the symbols and things of that nature, that a veil 294 00:21:55.680 --> 00:22:00.160 will fall from the eyes of humanity, and then you 295 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:04.680 start looking whether it's Google Chrome, whether it's Build Back Better, 296 00:22:04.960 --> 00:22:08.799 the World Economic Forum. You start looking at all these logos, 297 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:12.960 whether it's somebody people are listening, but you know when 298 00:22:13.000 --> 00:22:15.680 they're interviewing somebody and they go something like that, you 299 00:22:15.680 --> 00:22:18.799 know when they do the Freemason symbol, you know, the triangle. 300 00:22:20.240 --> 00:22:22.480 Once you're wake, you start to pick those things up, 301 00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:27.279 and this kind of goes into you know, understanding the truth. 302 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:33.160 And I know that you since your awakening have really 303 00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:40.440 been researching symbolism in numerology. As far as symbolism go, 304 00:22:41.200 --> 00:22:43.519 Could you talk to me kind of how you went 305 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:47.920 down that route? And like, for me, it changed the 306 00:22:47.960 --> 00:22:51.519 way I watched a movie or a television show. Instead 307 00:22:51.519 --> 00:22:55.039 of watching the cast, I'm looking in the background for numbers. 308 00:22:55.079 --> 00:22:57.759 I'm like, hey, that house number is thirty three. Oh 309 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:00.000 look there's an eye of Horus or things of that nature. 310 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:03.240 How did that change you and what interests you about it? 311 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:07.640 Yes, I'll, as you always say, I'll try to go 312 00:23:07.720 --> 00:23:08.759 to norm Land. 313 00:23:09.680 --> 00:23:10.119 There you go. 314 00:23:12.359 --> 00:23:15.960 But when I watch a movie with my husband, I 315 00:23:16.000 --> 00:23:22.920 always have to be, uh, yeah to how do you 316 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:28.200 say yeah to look what's in the background And the 317 00:23:28.240 --> 00:23:33.680 symbols and everything else. That's very true because there was 318 00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:37.559 one episode I don't know right now, and it was 319 00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:44.319 much about numerology and symbolism and that really resonated with me. 320 00:23:44.759 --> 00:23:48.039 And from that on, when you know about it, then 321 00:23:48.119 --> 00:23:54.960 you'll see and hear it everywhere, even in for example, 322 00:23:55.079 --> 00:24:02.200 the emblems of companies. For example, you'll start to see 323 00:24:03.119 --> 00:24:06.920 often of course, the big companies have symbols which are 324 00:24:09.039 --> 00:24:11.920 yeah directing also in. 325 00:24:11.839 --> 00:24:18.480 This yeah, even the biggest company, well, the biggest public 326 00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:22.079 company in America, black Rock, which I'm sure you've heard of. 327 00:24:22.480 --> 00:24:26.640 You know, they control you know, Vanguard and black Rock 328 00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:29.559 control much of the company. So while you know Pepsi 329 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:32.440 and Coke when I was growing up in the seventies 330 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:35.119 and eighties, there were arch enemies, you know, Pepsi and Coke. 331 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:38.359 Now you learn that they're owned by the same conglomerate. 332 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:43.680 But black Rock is actually you know, the big mountain 333 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:47.799 in the North Pole or the Polar region if you will, Uh, 334 00:24:48.039 --> 00:24:51.599 that is the giant magnet, which you know we use 335 00:24:51.599 --> 00:24:54.799 our competes. There's no South Pole. You can go all 336 00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:56.519 the way down to South America, it's still going to 337 00:24:56.759 --> 00:25:00.960 point to the north that's the magnet that it really 338 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:07.000 the symbolism, whether it's the movies, right, you go to 339 00:25:07.039 --> 00:25:10.200 the movies and most movies start without her space or 340 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:13.559 a planet or things of that nature. It's just in 341 00:25:13.599 --> 00:25:15.279 your face. And I think a lot of it they 342 00:25:15.359 --> 00:25:16.480 just mock us, now. 343 00:25:17.880 --> 00:25:23.440 Exactly. Yeah. The last movie I saw was the one 344 00:25:25.799 --> 00:25:31.720 It's from APLTV where they fake the moon landing. 345 00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:33.599 Yes, I saw that at the end, of. 346 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:37.519 Course they do it, but it was also interesting full 347 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:38.599 of hints. 348 00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:42.200 And I think it was called fly Me to the Moon. 349 00:25:45.400 --> 00:25:49.079 Yeah, maybe I don't know, but yeah. They also mentioned 350 00:25:50.400 --> 00:25:55.559 Qubreck and lots of stuff. Yeah, really, yeah. 351 00:25:55.559 --> 00:25:58.640 And you know what was interesting to me that they 352 00:25:58.720 --> 00:26:03.039 actually talked about, which it feels like to me that 353 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:05.839 NASA tries to stay as far away as they can, 354 00:26:05.960 --> 00:26:09.440 is the Apollo one mission with the three astronauts who 355 00:26:09.440 --> 00:26:12.400 were killed, Gus Grissom being one of them, because a 356 00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:14.839 day or two before that accident, he had hung the 357 00:26:14.960 --> 00:26:19.559 lemon on the Apollo one because they couldn't even communicate 358 00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:22.519 between where they were sitting and the building that was 359 00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.559 like one hundred yards away from him, and he's he said, 360 00:26:25.599 --> 00:26:27.960 how are we going to be able to communicate from 361 00:26:27.960 --> 00:26:29.640 here to the moon if we can't even talk one 362 00:26:29.720 --> 00:26:33.200 hundred feet away from each other. And then you know, 363 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:35.839 he hung a lemon on the Apollo and the next 364 00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:39.759 day they all died. And they actually, if I remember correctly, Laura, 365 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:43.079 I think they actually played that audio once or twice 366 00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:46.559 during the movie of those guys screaming as their capsule 367 00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:47.519 filled up with the fire. 368 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:59.519 Yeah, it could be h yeah, I'm not sure right now. Yeah, 369 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:06.279 but I have also something nice about the Bible with numerology. 370 00:27:07.079 --> 00:27:14.519 I a video that is called the Elton Anomaly. And 371 00:27:14.680 --> 00:27:19.880 there guys they had a hint from an acquaintance and 372 00:27:19.920 --> 00:27:26.319 so in really a month they take took the time 373 00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:33.160 to count every word in the King James Bible. And 374 00:27:33.680 --> 00:27:38.200 the interesting thing is that the number is seven to 375 00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:46.720 the power of seven, so seven is the the divine number, 376 00:27:47.160 --> 00:27:52.880 and it's I think twenty eight thousand something. That was 377 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.160 for me very very interesting and nice. 378 00:27:56.920 --> 00:28:01.599 I've seen something on it before. It's called the King 379 00:28:01.759 --> 00:28:06.680 James version code, and yeah, it's and they also call 380 00:28:06.720 --> 00:28:11.319 it that too, the Elton anomaly. They call it that also. 381 00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:15.960 But the summary is the entire King James Bible consists 382 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:19.359 of eight hundred and twenty three thousand, five hundred and 383 00:28:19.400 --> 00:28:23.160 forty three words and numbers, including the cover, the book, titles, 384 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:27.559 and chapters, and then they basically break it down by 385 00:28:27.599 --> 00:28:34.480 the power of seven, and it gets very interesting and 386 00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:37.559 if folks once would like to dig into it, I 387 00:28:37.720 --> 00:28:40.519 have a link that that breaks it all down with 388 00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:44.319 a video description from I think one of the guys 389 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:47.359 who may have done the research to kind of bring 390 00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:50.480 this to light. I'm not sure when this all kind 391 00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:54.359 of came about, but I know this includes a PDF 392 00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:57.519 version of the breakdown of video version, all kinds of 393 00:28:57.559 --> 00:28:58.599 information on it. 394 00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:03.480 I think that's the one I saw. Yeah, it's and 395 00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:06.519 if I remember right, it was something like the name 396 00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:11.960 of Jesus Christ. They found seven, one hundred and seventy 397 00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:19.359 seven times and something else. God was also a number 398 00:29:19.480 --> 00:29:19.720 like this. 399 00:29:19.920 --> 00:29:25.960 Yeah, yeah, it is very interesting and I need to 400 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:28.839 actually put this in my list of books in the website. 401 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:30.640