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Speaker 4: Welcome back truth seekers from around the world. It's time
Speaker 4: for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast. I'm
Speaker 4: your host is always George Jobs. As we record on
Speaker 4: this Friday, February twenty first, twenty twenty five. I hope
Speaker 4: everybody is doing well. We have a great guest standing by.
Speaker 4: We'll get to in just a moment. Before we do
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Speaker 4: And without any further ado, let's bring on our guest today.
Speaker 4: Her name is Laura and she is joining us from Germany. Laura,
Speaker 4: how are you today.
Speaker 1: Good evening from me. It's evening. Yes, I'm pretty nervous
Speaker 1: because it's not my comfort zone to speak in English,
Speaker 1: but yeah, okay.
Speaker 4: You're doing great and my best. Hey, we talked for
Speaker 4: a while before we hit the record button. You're doing
Speaker 4: just fine. And again, I do appreciate you coming on.
Speaker 4: It's so cool to have people from around the world.
Speaker 4: We've had Canada, Australia, you know, many European folks, South America.
Speaker 4: I just spoke to someone in South America the other day,
Speaker 4: so I'm very thankful that you know, this message gets
Speaker 4: spread around the world. So let's kick things off and
Speaker 4: introduce yourself to the audience.
Speaker 1: Okay, my name is Laura. I'm thirty seven. I have
Speaker 1: one child, almost three another on the way.
Speaker 4: Congratulations.
Speaker 1: I am pretty new, fully awake. I would say I
Speaker 1: got a little bit awake with the pandemic, but yeah,
Speaker 1: my really big awakening was when I came to Jesus
Speaker 1: Christ and that really opened my eyes. And yeah, that
Speaker 1: was only about a half year ago.
Speaker 4: I'm so happy to hear that. But that is the
Speaker 4: most important truth, you know, somebody can think come upon.
Speaker 4: So it's so good to hear that. That's awesome. Let's
Speaker 4: start from kind of you know, your email here, How
Speaker 4: did you know from your point of view in Germany?
Speaker 4: What was it like when March twenty twenty kicked off
Speaker 4: through the vaccine push. What was life like to you?
Speaker 4: And when did you start to notice that there was
Speaker 4: just something not right about what was going on.
Speaker 1: I felt from the beginning like it was only a flu,
Speaker 1: and I thought it's crazy by were all the peering,
Speaker 1: all the people freaking out wearing masks. I couldn't understand.
Speaker 1: So I was very skeptic from the beginning, and I
Speaker 1: had the lack that a very good friend of mine,
Speaker 1: she was already into conspiracy as a quote a quote
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories, and she really brought me facts that I thought, okay, wow,
Speaker 1: But by at that time I only thought that the
Speaker 1: rich wanted to become richer and I didn't understand the
Speaker 1: whole concept behind it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, well, well that certainly played a large part
Speaker 4: in it, seeing you know, as it was the largest
Speaker 4: wealth transfer and history, and then like here in the States,
Speaker 4: it was very up setting to see people who have
Speaker 4: had family owned businesses for generations be told to shut
Speaker 4: down and unfortunately, you know, many of those were not
Speaker 4: able to recover. One of the things that I remember,
Speaker 4: I spent time in Kaiserslot and bad Kissing Gin, you know,
Speaker 4: around Ramstein Frankfurt. It seemed to me, and again this
Speaker 4: is oh geez, you know, twenty twenty five years ago, now,
Speaker 4: the different times I was there, there was to me
Speaker 4: it felt like there was more small businesses in Europe
Speaker 4: than there was in the United States. So did you
Speaker 4: see a lot of the same, you know, with the
Speaker 4: small businesses where they suffering. Did a lot of them
Speaker 4: close during that you know, twenty twenty era.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, they suffered, had to get in debts
Speaker 1: to get over the time, and some or a lot
Speaker 1: of them closed, That's for sure.
Speaker 4: That's that's upsetting to hear. So you know, you start
Speaker 4: to wake up with that and thankfully, you know, you
Speaker 4: find Jesus and you ask the Holy Spirit to show
Speaker 4: you the truth. And it led you to a lot
Speaker 4: of rabbit holes. So, like I mentioned the other day
Speaker 4: that and I know I've said this probably twenty times,
Speaker 4: but if if flat Earth would have been the first
Speaker 4: rabbit hole I came on, I would have never looked
Speaker 4: into it because it just didn't make sense. To me.
Speaker 4: But once yeah, as soon as I started seeing that
Speaker 4: everything else was a lie, I was able to consider it.
Speaker 4: So was this the first one for you or was
Speaker 4: there others that you came upon first after COVID?
Speaker 1: To be honest, the first one. But for me, the
Speaker 1: biggest surprise to say is that Satan was real and
Speaker 1: that it's all a big deception. That was for me
Speaker 1: that wow, I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 4: And then once you realize Satan was real, then you
Speaker 4: also And that's what I try to say. It's interesting
Speaker 4: that there are a lot of atheists out there who
Speaker 4: acknowledge that, you know, these evil Satan worshipers that run
Speaker 4: the world. So if you're going to acknowledge that, then
Speaker 4: then I think maybe eventually they realized, well there's a Satan,
Speaker 4: they must be a god, right.
Speaker 1: Exactly. But for me it was the other way around.
Speaker 1: I found God and then I realized, okay, they really
Speaker 1: worship Satan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the Bible is is pretty clear about who
Speaker 4: runs the world we live in right now. So what
Speaker 4: led you to fly? What was it? Your friend? Was
Speaker 4: it a video? How did you come upon? Well? I
Speaker 4: should even ask like, did you even entertain flat Earth? Before.
Speaker 4: Was it something you ever really paid attention to? What
Speaker 4: led you down to that rabbit hole?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was really interesting. In the rear view my
Speaker 1: friend which introduced me to the COVID stuff, and she
Speaker 1: mentioned that they are flat earths. At that time, I
Speaker 1: was like, what really people who believe the earth is flat?
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. And I think now that really
Speaker 1: God brought me to the work where I am now
Speaker 1: because my two dear colleagues are a big part of
Speaker 1: my awakening because they're very close to God. And one
Speaker 1: of them is already I don't know how long flat earth,
Speaker 1: and he told me from the beginning. But then I thought, okay,
Speaker 1: he's very nice colleague, but he's a little bit crazy
Speaker 1: something like that. But when I came to Jesus Christ
Speaker 1: and asked to tell me to well, I could find
Speaker 1: the truth. Yeah. I think the Holy Spirit really guide
Speaker 1: me there that I and answered everything.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you know, Jesus does. I think he gives
Speaker 4: us when we turn our lives over to him. He
Speaker 4: gives us discernment, which means I think that we're able
Speaker 4: to see things that are lies more easily than maybe
Speaker 4: people who don't, people who are in the you know
Speaker 4: what did they say? People who are of the world
Speaker 4: not in the world right. And the more we continue
Speaker 4: to re research these things, the more we realize that
Speaker 4: you know, much of are what we were told about
Speaker 4: is based on lies. How long did it take you,
Speaker 4: you know, once you did your research and you were
Speaker 4: convinced that, you know, the Earth was relatively flat, and
Speaker 4: you know the model that we we talk about, did
Speaker 4: you understand because it for many people that it usually connects,
Speaker 4: but there's a different length of time that the globe
Speaker 4: was created to hide God, and you know, and how
Speaker 4: it ties in with say evolution and the Big Bang
Speaker 4: theory and things of that nature that are used to
Speaker 4: either hide or trivialize God.
Speaker 1: I think it was almost only one evening to go
Speaker 1: through a lot of ideos. My colleague, of course, knew
Speaker 1: already and sent me and I was already almost convinced.
Speaker 1: Let's flat. Yeah, it's pretty interesting because one of my
Speaker 1: first I made a few notes. One of the first
Speaker 1: things we found out in German Wikipedia the word for
Speaker 1: planet it says is also to deceive. Was pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: And then what I liked a lot were the videos
Speaker 1: from Flatters and Coffee He did a great job explaining
Speaker 1: also signs and that out of space cannot work. And yeah,
Speaker 1: then all the operation paper clip and all the stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I was pretty fast at all the that's great.
Speaker 4: Yes, And that's something again I talk about when we
Speaker 4: read the Bible and using Strong's concordance. The word planet
Speaker 4: comes from the Greek word I don't know if I'm
Speaker 4: pronouncing it right, but it's like plano p l a
Speaker 4: n ao, and the definition is to lead astray, to deceive,
Speaker 4: or to cause to wander. And that's what they call them, right,
Speaker 4: the wandering stars. But at the same time they're sending
Speaker 4: us wandering away from the true meaning of these things.
Speaker 4: And again, for those who do use the Strong concordance,
Speaker 4: it is entry number forty one oh five. And I'll
Speaker 4: make sure that I cite this in the show in
Speaker 4: the show notes so people can see this. And even
Speaker 4: the Hebrew equivalent is often associated with deception or leading astray.
Speaker 4: So you've got a Greek explanation and you have a
Speaker 4: Hebrew explanation telling you that is to basically be deceived, Yes, sir, yeah,
Speaker 4: and go ahead.
Speaker 1: It was also interesting because my colleague, which had almost
Speaker 1: at the same time the awakening with the flat Earth
Speaker 1: as the younger colleague, and he heard a podcast and
Speaker 1: then his thoughts stray around and he thought, like God believes,
Speaker 1: show me the truth? Is the earth maybe really flat
Speaker 1: and exact? In that second the voice in the podcast
Speaker 1: that indeed, And that was a little bit his start
Speaker 1: to dig in there.
Speaker 4: Really which you said, which podcast?
Speaker 1: Was it a German one? It's a Christian podcast.
Speaker 4: Okay, and they actually discussed flat Earth on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, okay, out of the context that the timing
Speaker 1: was perfect. So he thought that was a sign from God.
Speaker 4: Gotcha, that makes sense. Let me ask you this, just
Speaker 4: for curiosity reasons. How did you find my podcast?
Speaker 1: My young accolague? He just thought maybe there's a podcast
Speaker 1: on Spotify, and so he found you that his English
Speaker 1: is not that good, and so I think he gave
Speaker 1: up after a few episodes, and I was so caught.
Speaker 4: And so my wife speaks German. Maybe I'll have her
Speaker 4: translate them in German. She can do German, a little
Speaker 4: bit of Russian and Hungarian.
Speaker 5: Ah.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, there's so much to talk about. What I'd
Speaker 4: like to get into this because there's so many other
Speaker 4: things I want to talk about. So let's talk about
Speaker 4: the evidences that convinced you that, you know, the whole
Speaker 4: heliocentric model was a lie. You know, was it the curvature,
Speaker 4: was it the water? What were the strongest pieces of
Speaker 4: evidence to you that you know that the ball was
Speaker 4: a lie?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I remembered that as a child. I also thought,
Speaker 1: how does it come that the people that are at
Speaker 1: the bottom do not realize that they're.
Speaker 4: They're upside down?
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, And so I think already as a child,
Speaker 1: I had my doubts too, And yeah, now it was
Speaker 1: really more the real science that you can observe, like
Speaker 1: that you can see too far, that the water always
Speaker 1: always levels, Yeah, stuff like that. And I think then
Speaker 1: all the other stories with the Germans and the NASA
Speaker 1: and stuff like this, Yeah, it all came to one conclusion.
Speaker 4: You know, I've been thinking about this because I'm starting
Speaker 4: to find that even when we go down rabbit holes
Speaker 4: and we find things like Operation paper Clip, I wonder
Speaker 4: how much of the disclosure they give us is even
Speaker 4: factually based that that you know what I mean that
Speaker 4: you know, these people were our arch enemies for for
Speaker 4: four or five years, and we just brought them in
Speaker 4: and made them the head of these organizations. You know,
Speaker 4: it could be a plot more deeper than we think
Speaker 4: for sure. Now you mentioned that you often try to
Speaker 4: leave you no breadcrumbs for your friends. Have you had
Speaker 4: any success in other than your colleague who you guys
Speaker 4: are able to communicate with. Have you had any luck,
Speaker 4: you know, getting people to look into flat earth?
Speaker 1: Sadly not. I think I overplayed my hand with my husband.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he thought, oh, she's brain rushed for
Speaker 1: her colleagues at work. Because that's why I am glad
Speaker 1: that he's not there today. That's why I send you this,
Speaker 1: this appointment as a possibility to talk, because I think
Speaker 1: it has to cool down a little bit and I'll
Speaker 1: try try again. I left a little bread drums for
Speaker 1: my mother, but she didn't. I think also in COVID,
Speaker 1: even there, I left her very very much bread CRuMs.
Speaker 1: But she's nah hard to get through, is there? I'm trying?
Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, we all do. Do you think that? What
Speaker 4: do you think the reason is that, in your opinion,
Speaker 4: that her people are so closed minded and unwilling to
Speaker 4: look into these things specifically after I think even you
Speaker 4: know I've said this before, even the most person who
Speaker 4: just doesn't pay attention to this kind of stuff, even
Speaker 4: they saw it a little bit during COVID. So what
Speaker 4: what is this? Is it a self defense mechanism? Is
Speaker 4: it just they're they're so programmed? Why is it? Do
Speaker 4: you think people are so unwilling to look into these things?
Speaker 1: I think part of it is maybe inside not aware
Speaker 1: of but fear to find out what's really going on
Speaker 1: in the world that it's really so evil. And yes,
Speaker 1: the indoctrination, of course, is one part. And I also
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit of the character of the person,
Speaker 1: how they how open they are to look into it.
Speaker 1: And I have the feeling that in some person the
Speaker 1: Holy Spirit works too. Yeah, that you have to dive
Speaker 1: into the truth.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree, And like you said earlier, there is
Speaker 4: something when you give your life to Christ that you
Speaker 4: do have the ability to see all the lies. It's
Speaker 4: you know, what's interesting you mentioned that for some people
Speaker 4: there is a fear of seeing the truth. But what's
Speaker 4: funny is once you take the time and look into
Speaker 4: it and find out the truths, there is no fear,
Speaker 4: right because yeah, right, and you know you're gonna you know,
Speaker 4: once you're done this realm you'll be in heaven for eternity.
Speaker 4: But also the quote unquote worldly things, right. You know,
Speaker 4: you may laugh, but with all the news of meteor
Speaker 4: hitting the earth, I guarantee you there are people around
Speaker 4: the world that are stressing out and talking about, oh no,
Speaker 4: in seven years, there's a chance, you know, the media
Speaker 4: could end civilization as we know it and all of
Speaker 4: these other things that you know. You know, the people
Speaker 4: who work for Satan try to instill fear in us
Speaker 4: because that takes the attention away from God because we
Speaker 4: shouldn't have fear because you know of our faith. So
Speaker 4: you know, while we are flawed, while we are human,
Speaker 4: while we do all have fears. Once you realize that
Speaker 4: yes we have a firmament and how the world is
Speaker 4: truly constructed, those fears go away.
Speaker 1: Yes, I feel really protected.
Speaker 4: You had mentioned, and this is something that I like
Speaker 4: to talk about. And if I'm jumping the gun here,
Speaker 4: just let me know. But for me, you know, when
Speaker 4: I came across Manly P's Manley P. Hall's book and
Speaker 4: he started talking about how to if you recognize you know,
Speaker 4: the symbols and things of that nature, that a veil
Speaker 4: will fall from the eyes of humanity, and then you
Speaker 4: start looking whether it's Google Chrome, whether it's Build Back Better,
Speaker 4: the World Economic Forum. You start looking at all these logos,
Speaker 4: whether it's somebody people are listening, but you know when
Speaker 4: they're interviewing somebody and they go something like that, you
Speaker 4: know when they do the Freemason symbol, you know, the triangle.
Speaker 4: Once you're wake, you start to pick those things up,
Speaker 4: and this kind of goes into you know, understanding the truth.
Speaker 4: And I know that you since your awakening have really
Speaker 4: been researching symbolism in numerology. As far as symbolism go,
Speaker 4: Could you talk to me kind of how you went
Speaker 4: down that route? And like, for me, it changed the
Speaker 4: way I watched a movie or a television show. Instead
Speaker 4: of watching the cast, I'm looking in the background for numbers.
Speaker 4: I'm like, hey, that house number is thirty three. Oh
Speaker 4: look there's an eye of Horus or things of that nature.
Speaker 4: How did that change you and what interests you about it?
Speaker 1: Yes, I'll, as you always say, I'll try to go
Speaker 1: to norm Land.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 1: But when I watch a movie with my husband, I
Speaker 1: always have to be, uh, yeah to how do you
Speaker 1: say yeah to look what's in the background And the
Speaker 1: symbols and everything else. That's very true because there was
Speaker 1: one episode I don't know right now, and it was
Speaker 1: much about numerology and symbolism and that really resonated with me.
Speaker 1: And from that on, when you know about it, then
Speaker 1: you'll see and hear it everywhere, even in for example,
Speaker 1: the emblems of companies. For example, you'll start to see
Speaker 1: often of course, the big companies have symbols which are
Speaker 1: yeah directing also in.
Speaker 4: This yeah, even the biggest company, well, the biggest public
Speaker 4: company in America, black Rock, which I'm sure you've heard of.
Speaker 4: You know, they control you know, Vanguard and black Rock
Speaker 4: control much of the company. So while you know Pepsi
Speaker 4: and Coke when I was growing up in the seventies
Speaker 4: and eighties, there were arch enemies, you know, Pepsi and Coke.
Speaker 4: Now you learn that they're owned by the same conglomerate.
Speaker 4: But black Rock is actually you know, the big mountain
Speaker 4: in the North Pole or the Polar region if you will, Uh,
Speaker 4: that is the giant magnet, which you know we use
Speaker 4: our competes. There's no South Pole. You can go all
Speaker 4: the way down to South America, it's still going to
Speaker 4: point to the north that's the magnet that it really
Speaker 4: the symbolism, whether it's the movies, right, you go to
Speaker 4: the movies and most movies start without her space or
Speaker 4: a planet or things of that nature. It's just in
Speaker 4: your face. And I think a lot of it they
Speaker 4: just mock us, now.
Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah. The last movie I saw was the one
Speaker 1: It's from APLTV where they fake the moon landing.
Speaker 4: Yes, I saw that at the end, of.
Speaker 1: Course they do it, but it was also interesting full
Speaker 1: of hints.
Speaker 4: And I think it was called fly Me to the Moon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I don't know, but yeah. They also mentioned
Speaker 1: Qubreck and lots of stuff. Yeah, really, yeah.
Speaker 4: And you know what was interesting to me that they
Speaker 4: actually talked about, which it feels like to me that
Speaker 4: NASA tries to stay as far away as they can,
Speaker 4: is the Apollo one mission with the three astronauts who
Speaker 4: were killed, Gus Grissom being one of them, because a
Speaker 4: day or two before that accident, he had hung the
Speaker 4: lemon on the Apollo one because they couldn't even communicate
Speaker 4: between where they were sitting and the building that was
Speaker 4: like one hundred yards away from him, and he's he said,
Speaker 4: how are we going to be able to communicate from
Speaker 4: here to the moon if we can't even talk one
Speaker 4: hundred feet away from each other. And then you know,
Speaker 4: he hung a lemon on the Apollo and the next
Speaker 4: day they all died. And they actually, if I remember correctly, Laura,
Speaker 4: I think they actually played that audio once or twice
Speaker 4: during the movie of those guys screaming as their capsule
Speaker 4: filled up with the fire.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be h yeah, I'm not sure right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I have also something nice about the Bible with numerology.
Speaker 1: I a video that is called the Elton Anomaly. And
Speaker 1: there guys they had a hint from an acquaintance and
Speaker 1: so in really a month they take took the time
Speaker 1: to count every word in the King James Bible. And
Speaker 1: the interesting thing is that the number is seven to
Speaker 1: the power of seven, so seven is the the divine number,
Speaker 1: and it's I think twenty eight thousand something. That was
Speaker 1: for me very very interesting and nice.
Speaker 4: I've seen something on it before. It's called the King
Speaker 4: James version code, and yeah, it's and they also call
Speaker 4: it that too, the Elton anomaly. They call it that also.
Speaker 4: But the summary is the entire King James Bible consists
Speaker 4: of eight hundred and twenty three thousand, five hundred and
Speaker 4: forty three words and numbers, including the cover, the book, titles,
Speaker 4: and chapters, and then they basically break it down by
Speaker 4: the power of seven, and it gets very interesting and
Speaker 4: if folks once would like to dig into it, I
Speaker 4: have a link that that breaks it all down with
Speaker 4: a video description from I think one of the guys
Speaker 4: who may have done the research to kind of bring
Speaker 4: this to light. I'm not sure when this all kind
Speaker 4: of came about, but I know this includes a PDF
Speaker 4: version of the breakdown of video version, all kinds of
Speaker 4: information on it.
Speaker 1: I think that's the one I saw. Yeah, it's and
Speaker 1: if I remember right, it was something like the name
Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ. They found seven, one hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: seven times and something else. God was also a number
Speaker 1: like this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it is very interesting and I need to
Speaker 4: actually put this in my list of books in the website.
Speaker 4: It is very interesting.
Speaker 1: You've always or often did discussion if the Book of
Speaker 1: Enoch was once a part of the Bible, So according
Speaker 1: to that, maybe not, but who knows. I don't know,
Speaker 1: because I have that's still on my list. I want
Speaker 1: to read it by didn't have time.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Now, and again if you go back to fifteen sixty,
Speaker 4: it is included in the Geneva Bible that the there
Speaker 4: are fourteen books which would go you know, take it
Speaker 4: from sixty six to eighty. Unfortunately, the one I bought
Speaker 4: has very small print, and I'm blind as a bat,
Speaker 4: so it's hard for me to read. I like, you know,
Speaker 4: larger PDF. But it is interesting whether or not it's
Speaker 4: it's you know, canon or just supplemental reading. I think
Speaker 4: it is worth a reading for sure. You know, when
Speaker 4: it talks about the watchers and it does, I think
Speaker 4: to me it kind of connected some dots. But whether
Speaker 4: or not it's canon or no, that's certainly another discussion.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And really what caught my attention to was that
Speaker 1: in many successful movies, always the story reappears that one
Speaker 1: has to die while the other one has to live.
Speaker 1: That's also.
Speaker 4: I think that is kind of a tip to freemasonry,
Speaker 4: so you know, we talk about duality. That's why they
Speaker 4: have the black and white checker boards in every free
Speaker 4: Mason hall. The black you'll always have two things. You're
Speaker 4: going to have the black and white checker board, and
Speaker 4: then you're going to have the two not towers. Uh
Speaker 4: you know, what do you call them?
Speaker 5: Just?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: What do you call two things outside of your house?
Speaker 4: You know? They represent? Is it? Joa Cum and Baiez?
Speaker 4: I always say that wrong? Which were these two? Sorry, guys,
Speaker 4: I'm having a brain cramp. I've been writing all day
Speaker 4: in my brain. Okay, So BoA's and Joshin pardon me.
Speaker 4: They're the names of the two pillars that stood in
Speaker 4: front of Solomon's temple in Jerusalem. They are symbols in freemasonry.
Speaker 4: So the two pillars you'll always see in a free
Speaker 4: mason hall, and then you'll always the checkerboard on the inside,
Speaker 4: and that represents the duality of mankind and that many
Speaker 4: people also say whether or not that that's you know,
Speaker 4: the Statue of Liberty, the Transagenda, those type of things
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we found a pretty good i think Swiss side
Speaker 1: where they really took every little detail from Matrix. That
Speaker 1: was pretty interesting. Two where the parallels from the Bible.
Speaker 1: And actually my colleague said, of course when you rewrite
Speaker 1: new it's like the.
Speaker 4: One say that last part one more time.
Speaker 1: When you took the the other author from Neo, it's
Speaker 1: like the one.
Speaker 4: So that's interesting, sting. You know, I've broken down the
Speaker 4: movie Contagion, like minute by minute I have. I have
Speaker 4: probably fifty pages of notes on that movie. I need
Speaker 4: to go back and study that one the same way
Speaker 4: I did. And what's interesting, speaking of duality, the is
Speaker 4: it called the Wachowski brothers or the people who directed
Speaker 4: the Matrix? They now there were two guys. Now the
Speaker 4: people who wrote the Matrix, the brothers are now the sisters.
Speaker 4: They're now known as Lana and Lily Wachowski. And boy
Speaker 4: do they look hideous?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then what was really big for me to the
Speaker 1: the music industry. They're really showing really open how they
Speaker 1: worship Satan.
Speaker 4: Yes, I believe that you could have the greatest song
Speaker 4: ever made, the greatest music, the greatest lyrics, you know,
Speaker 4: and it would sell one hundred million copies. But if
Speaker 4: you are not part of the club, if you're not
Speaker 4: willing to be a part of the club, and you know,
Speaker 4: all these people who like here in the States, do
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl halftime shows or have their videos and
Speaker 4: you know, are given millions and millions of dollars. If
Speaker 4: you're not willing to be in a part of the club,
Speaker 4: they will never play your music. I'm sure you will never.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And what's interesting because since I knew that, and since
Speaker 1: I got aware of the that music has a lot
Speaker 1: to do with magic, yep, and I did not listen
Speaker 1: to music so much anymore. And two days ago I
Speaker 1: had to do something a little bit difficult at work,
Speaker 1: and then I decided to put my airports in and
Speaker 1: hear some music. And at that night, I had a
Speaker 1: very sinful dream. Really, that's interesting. So and I had
Speaker 1: no bad dreams in months.
Speaker 4: That's really interesting that you mentioned that, because you know,
Speaker 4: there's a lot of people who talk about number one
Speaker 4: the frequency that popular music. You know, you've heard I'm
Speaker 4: not sure if you looked at the three sixty nine frequencies,
Speaker 4: and then there's frequencies when you add up to three numbers.
Speaker 4: If they don't add them to that, that they actually
Speaker 4: interfere with your brains. And some people believe, you know,
Speaker 4: even your ability to communicate with God. It's distracting. And
Speaker 4: like you mentioned, bad dreams, but there's also many people
Speaker 4: who say that when you because what we do when
Speaker 4: we're listening to a song, whether it's the Safety Dance
Speaker 4: or whatever song it is, we sing it along when
Speaker 4: we're in the car, right, we just don't listen. We
Speaker 4: sing it along with the lyrics. So a lot of
Speaker 4: people believe that we're actually especially with the big songs,
Speaker 4: not every single not the menu at work, I would think,
Speaker 4: but you know these big songs that are popular, that
Speaker 4: you're actually citing or channing a spell.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And it makes sense because you repeat it
Speaker 1: all over again. And also the connection to the words
Speaker 1: you use with the television channeling and channel and programming.
Speaker 4: That's right, channel the TV programs you it's not the
Speaker 4: other way around. So, like many people, since coming to
Speaker 4: the truth, you've changed your life. You just mentioned you
Speaker 4: don't listen to the same you know, music like you
Speaker 4: used to. You know, maybe the time you would have
Speaker 4: spent watching TV shows. You're probably like most of us,
Speaker 4: you're you're researching, looking at websites, watching videos. How has
Speaker 4: that effected your life and for the good? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah? But also it's really like you say, it's very
Speaker 1: isolating because I really have always feeling inside I want
Speaker 1: to talk about these really important things, but the most
Speaker 1: of the other people, yeah, don't see it. And so yeah,
Speaker 1: you're some times very alone.
Speaker 4: You know, That's a common thing I get in emails
Speaker 4: and letters is while it's freeing and nobody would you know,
Speaker 4: trade it or go back that The one common thing
Speaker 4: amongst all of the people who reach out to me
Speaker 4: is that they just don't have anybody locally, you know,
Speaker 4: in person to communicate this with, or they have maybe
Speaker 4: one person. And you know, I'm willing to bet that
Speaker 4: more people around us have similar beliefs. I just don't
Speaker 4: know if they're afraid to say it, or are we
Speaker 4: really that few of a number.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's what I really appreciate. My older colleague.
Speaker 1: He's really open. He goes to everyone and says, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm a flat Earth, and even if he's ridicuted, he
Speaker 1: doesn't care. He's that kind of guy. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: not my personality. I'm really afraid of getting ridicute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And like, there are people who I think that
Speaker 4: even have this knowledge, but they're afraid to delve any
Speaker 4: deeper because of that stigma. Right, you know, I don't
Speaker 4: want to. I've heard people say listen. I'm like, literally,
Speaker 4: people have told me listen, I know the world is
Speaker 4: flat that I know, you know, the whole globe thing
Speaker 4: is a joke. But and this is what this is
Speaker 4: the exact words they'll say, I don't want to embarrass
Speaker 4: my family or friends. And you know, on the surface,
Speaker 4: you're like, yeah, I get it, But if you actually
Speaker 4: sit down and think about it, that people are more
Speaker 4: willing to go along with a lie. And that's what
Speaker 4: it really And I'm not listen, I'm not giving I'm
Speaker 4: just I'm just saying, if you just sit down and
Speaker 4: break it down, is more people are willing to go
Speaker 4: along with a lie then to have someone look at
Speaker 4: them differently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's how nice it's played. So that's why
Speaker 1: I decided, even if I was a little bit afraid
Speaker 1: to speak in English, to go through the to your podcast,
Speaker 1: because I thought, maybe there are other others in Germany
Speaker 1: around here, and we can encourage people really in every
Speaker 1: country to come out.
Speaker 4: Yeah read it would be nice. If you know, I'm
Speaker 4: not super up on tech, but you know, if everybody
Speaker 4: out there, especially if you're in another country, to have
Speaker 4: a flat earth Germany a flatter earth, Romania, a flat earth,
Speaker 4: you know, Japan or whatever, to be able to have
Speaker 4: a community we're like minded people, can you know, have
Speaker 4: this type of conversation in their own time zones and
Speaker 4: to be able to communicate in their like languages.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I for I don't know if it's possible to
Speaker 1: see this videos with subtext in English. But I've really
Speaker 1: found a good channel on YouTube. It's called flex Doku,
Speaker 1: but it's in German. German guy and he goes down
Speaker 1: a lot of rabbit holes. Not flat Earth yet, but
Speaker 1: he makes really nice content.
Speaker 4: And what was the channel called again?
Speaker 1: Uh, flex dooko. It's f l e x.
Speaker 4: D o O K you oh flex doko Okay? Oh wow.
Speaker 4: He's got seventy two thousand plus subscribers.
Speaker 1: No, and what I read in the comments, I think
Speaker 1: the most are Christians because many right that they're very thankful,
Speaker 1: and yeah, because he knows the Bible very well. But
Speaker 1: also he goes into the Qur'an.
Speaker 4: Oh wow. Yeah. Even the close captioning in is German.
Speaker 4: So but you know, we have a worldwide audience, so
Speaker 4: certainly if it helps someone, I'll put that in the
Speaker 4: show notes as well. I'm looking at the channel now.
Speaker 4: They talk about things like Bohemian Grove, Hollywood, the deceptions.
Speaker 4: There are a lot of a lot of good information,
Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll definitely.
Speaker 1: That's really such a good in English. Now I've out
Speaker 1: a good research. He has good sources. Really appreciate his
Speaker 1: work too.
Speaker 4: It that's good. That's awesome as far as flat Earth goes.
Speaker 4: Was there anything else that you wanted to share with
Speaker 4: the audience, whether or not it's you know, one of
Speaker 4: your your six bullets if you will, right, or your
Speaker 4: silver bullets, or any success that you might have, you know,
Speaker 4: mentioned to somebody and just kind of piqued their interest.
Speaker 1: I actually have a question if somebody of your listeners
Speaker 1: or you could give something to that. My colleague and
Speaker 1: I had it sometimes two Since we're with christ we
Speaker 1: often look at the clock at times like you know,
Speaker 1: eleven eleven and driven we have the twenty four hours
Speaker 1: systems of twenty two, twenty two. Yeah, that's pretty interesting
Speaker 1: if somebody knows something about that.
Speaker 4: You know, there's I've looked at that before and I've researched,
Speaker 4: and there are different expectations. Somebody simply write it off.
Speaker 4: Is something called chronostasis. Some people say it has to
Speaker 4: do with certain numbers and the angels. Like for me,
Speaker 4: almost every single night when I look at the clock,
Speaker 4: it says nine to eleven, like almost every single night.
Speaker 4: And then people say it depends on what numbers you see,
Speaker 4: but you won't get one answer. But there are lots
Speaker 4: of answers out there, and I guess, you know, take
Speaker 4: them all under consideration, and you know what everyone resonates
Speaker 4: with you the most. But there's lots of stories out there,
Speaker 4: whether on Reddit or talking about what do I keep
Speaker 4: seeing the same numbers on my clock at certain times
Speaker 4: of the day, if you guys would be like twenty
Speaker 4: one thirty or twenty two hundred.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and back to your questions. Yeah, my thing was
Speaker 1: that I really could trust my eyes a little bit
Speaker 1: more what I see, what I feel, that it's real
Speaker 1: that I don't feel an emotion on Earth that I
Speaker 1: can see very far. But also it was connected, or
Speaker 1: what was resonated with me was also that the space
Speaker 1: story cannot be so the the bank of all the
Speaker 1: NASA stuff. I liked it a lot. There was one
Speaker 1: wed video We're really laughed. It shows how actual pilot
Speaker 1: which have a lot of g there, Yeah, how they
Speaker 1: look very exhausted and they almost couldn't stand it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then you show the videos of the astronauts they're
Speaker 1: sitting there almost as they're falling asleep, and I imagined
Speaker 1: they're in the studio and I don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I found that very, very funny.
Speaker 4: Actually, before you came into flat Earth and understood the
Speaker 4: firmament and how our world is truly created, what were
Speaker 4: your thoughts about outer space and the moon landing and
Speaker 4: things of that nature.
Speaker 1: Oh, that were one of my favorite movies, and I
Speaker 1: always envied there are stories that if you're very rich,
Speaker 1: you can afford a trip to space. I always thought, what,
Speaker 1: how cool is that?
Speaker 4: But did did you ever consider the moon landing before
Speaker 4: or was it something that interesting?
Speaker 1: Because in the free television already when I was a child,
Speaker 1: I remember that stick very stuck very in my head
Speaker 1: and about how many inconsistencies there were, and there was
Speaker 1: skeptical from the beginning if that really happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then obviously you come on to flat Earth
Speaker 4: and you realize not only did they not go, it's
Speaker 4: it's impossible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and now I see all the time that the
Speaker 1: moon can't be a rock, that's right, it's so bright.
Speaker 1: How should a piece of rock be so bright?
Speaker 4: And yeah, yeah, we laugh about that.
Speaker 1: The cold moonlight and how the astronauts told that they
Speaker 1: saw the Earth rise, which is if you read about that,
Speaker 1: not logical at all.
Speaker 4: And yeah, and the astronauts during their press conference after
Speaker 4: they came back.
Speaker 1: Oh, that was a big one for me too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but not only that that they looked miserable, like
Speaker 4: they were burdening that. I think they realized what how
Speaker 4: big the lie they had to keep. But even you know,
Speaker 4: one guy said I saw stars. The other guys like, no,
Speaker 4: I didn't even They couldn't even get their stories straight.
Speaker 4: It was very interesting, all of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that really looked as they had to go to
Speaker 1: a funeral. Yeah, and I don't want to imagine how
Speaker 1: they felt for their entire life.
Speaker 4: No, And I always ask us have the.
Speaker 1: Same question as you do. At what point did they
Speaker 1: know that they won't go to space? Did they know
Speaker 1: from the beginning or just before the mission should start?
Speaker 4: Yeah, the human side of me wishes that our hopes
Speaker 4: that they didn't know till the last second, that they
Speaker 4: were deceived, and that they were simply threatened if they
Speaker 4: disclosed anything, you know, certain things would come. Because Neil
Speaker 4: Armstrong only spoke a few times publicly after that, and
Speaker 4: I had mentioned, you know, you got people like Michael
Speaker 4: Jordan and Lebron James and these athletes who are all
Speaker 4: over the place and all they do is play sports.
Speaker 4: Like if I was Neil Armstrong, right, and I truly
Speaker 4: went to the moon and came back, you'd figure he'd
Speaker 4: be on every serial, box, every commercial. But he just
Speaker 4: closed his door. I think he spoke in nineteen ninety
Speaker 4: four while Clinton was in White House, but even when
Speaker 4: he was speaking, he was his demeanor was just very robotic.
Speaker 1: He felt awful.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and even if the one guy who's still alive,
Speaker 4: Buzz Aldrin, I think even if he came out today
Speaker 4: and held a press conference and said we lied, they
Speaker 4: would just say, you know, poor Buzz. You know he's
Speaker 4: ninety seven years old. Now, he's you know, he's had
Speaker 4: dementia for the last year. And people would just forget
Speaker 4: because that's what they do. They don't care. They just
Speaker 4: go about their day.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and I had something else what I wanted
Speaker 1: to say. There's also another German. He makes Christian contact. Sadly,
Speaker 1: he's not into flatter, but he analyzes the Bible very good.
Speaker 1: And he's called he's a Swiss guy Libi. And because
Speaker 1: in your the last episode. I only had the time
Speaker 1: to hear the half of it today, and they guess
Speaker 1: said that maybe we're already in the period after.
Speaker 4: The millennial reign the little season.
Speaker 1: Yes, I found that very interesting. Boshi Libi, on the
Speaker 1: other hand, claims that he is the first one which
Speaker 1: created to say, so a perfect time lying according to
Speaker 1: the Bible. And yes, avidence because with the I have
Speaker 1: to see how it's called. With the oh, sorry, because
Speaker 1: that's my English. Radio carbon dating, some of his timelines
Speaker 1: are are the same.
Speaker 4: Date with the carbon dating.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was pretty interesting. He debanks it that it
Speaker 1: as he's a creationist you say in English, and so
Speaker 1: he doesn't believe in evolution, of course, but he says
Speaker 1: that the method works in some cases. He explains it
Speaker 1: very well and why it doesn't work on the enemy's
Speaker 1: explanations to say.
Speaker 4: So that makes sense. And is he is he on
Speaker 4: YouTube or is it a website?
Speaker 1: He both. He has a website and on YouTube he
Speaker 1: has a lot of.
Speaker 4: And could you spell his name for me? Are g
Speaker 4: E r oh Roger okay?
Speaker 6: M hm?
Speaker 1: Yes? And Levy is l I E e I.
Speaker 4: Oh okay.
Speaker 1: He knows really well. The original Texas in Hebrew and Greek,
Speaker 1: and yeah, explains a lot.
Speaker 4: I got him right here, Roger Lee. We'll have a
Speaker 4: lot of content for folks to watch.
Speaker 1: He has a little serious about revelation book. It's four
Speaker 1: episodes each almost one hour, and he explains very very
Speaker 1: good for me, very logical because he believes that the
Speaker 1: Raptor will take place before the big Oh God, I
Speaker 1: don't know the word English before the beast comes.
Speaker 4: Right right, right right, Yeah, that's interesting. By the way
Speaker 4: I think he speaks in is it German or Swiss?
Speaker 5: German?
Speaker 4: Okay, that's what I think. That's I thought that was
Speaker 4: German writing. But yeah, the links will be in the
Speaker 4: show notes for that. He also has over seventy thousand subscribers,
Speaker 4: so a lot of people paying attention to him for sure.
Speaker 4: What else did you have noted that we haven't talked
Speaker 4: about yet?
Speaker 5: Mmm, that it's more a German thing.
Speaker 1: I think I watched one video were they told already
Speaker 1: that in the German language is a very big thing
Speaker 1: now that you have to gender so for every like
Speaker 1: it's an English like actor and actress, you can do
Speaker 1: that in German with every word. So and now it's
Speaker 1: very important because that really divides the people that you
Speaker 1: always gender correctly. It's called gendering in German. And there
Speaker 1: was a video which I saw that that was also
Speaker 1: something that was blannnd so only to divide all the
Speaker 1: people that have fight amongst each other.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've talked to several people who've been to Germany recently. Now,
Speaker 4: anytime the news shows something, obviously there's an agenda behind it.
Speaker 4: It doesn't represent the people you know, who were there.
Speaker 4: It doesn't surprise me because it seems like they're at
Speaker 4: least for the last ten years, back to twenty fourteen,
Speaker 4: I guess is when they really started pushing this Wolk
Speaker 4: ideology in Germany.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also gotten very hard to find the
Speaker 1: right words with colored people. It's in Germany also very
Speaker 1: big theme how you can not affront somebody.
Speaker 4: Or well, that's been an issue with the massive influx
Speaker 4: of immigrants in the last decade.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and so therefore there's a very big part
Speaker 1: that votes now more the right side again, and that's
Speaker 1: also a big issue. But now my opinion is anyways
Speaker 1: it's controlled from a higher level, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: But I think the people have the feeling that they
Speaker 1: can change something, so they go, don't go to the
Speaker 1: streets or make something bigger.
Speaker 4: Right, And I literally just wrote about that today, talking
Speaker 4: about what it means to be a patriot, right, and
Speaker 4: how they want to squashed that like for us, like
Speaker 4: we're talking about you just mentioned how we think our
Speaker 4: votes matter, but they don't. Right, go back to twenty
Speaker 4: twenty here in the United States, right, we saw and listen,
Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of Trump either, but just from
Speaker 4: the visuals, you would have forty fifty thousand people at
Speaker 4: a Trump rally, and then there'd be like twenty or
Speaker 4: thirty people at a Biden rally. And you know Biden,
Speaker 4: who is just loathed amongst most people here in the
Speaker 4: United States. They claim he got the most votes ever
Speaker 4: in history, eighty one million votes, right, So obviously that
Speaker 4: didn't happen. So you know, good god fearing patriots felt
Speaker 4: that they needed to go down and hear their voice heard,
Speaker 4: and those poor people were set up, and you know,
Speaker 4: twelve thirteen hundred people were thrown in the gulags for
Speaker 4: many years because they went down there to protest something
Speaker 4: that was of course unjust because he didn't get eighty
Speaker 4: one million votes, but now on top of that, people
Speaker 4: are going to be afraid to ever do that again
Speaker 4: because oh well, if we go down there, they're just
Speaker 4: going to throw us in jail. So it was one
Speaker 4: of the biggest, most evil, psychological and physical operations that
Speaker 4: this country has ever done. I say one of the
Speaker 4: most because back it was after World War One and
Speaker 4: the veterans were promised certain benefits and they didn't get them,
Speaker 4: so they went down to protest, and many of the
Speaker 4: people who became big names in World War Two, like
Speaker 4: Patten and others, they actually shot these veterans and chased
Speaker 4: them off out of DC. So it wasn't the first
Speaker 4: time that people had gone to Washington, d C. To
Speaker 4: protest something and had harm brought upon them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because we have we have now at this weekend
Speaker 1: are the votes for this next period? So yes?
Speaker 4: Is that right?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I'm excited because there's actually a German journalist who predicted
Speaker 1: that the I've did that that are the right ones
Speaker 1: they will how do you say, from then there will
Speaker 1: be the next president? Yeah, So I'm.
Speaker 4: So is it an actual how many stages of elections
Speaker 4: are there in Germany?
Speaker 1: Hmm, it's not that complicated. You can you have two choices.
Speaker 1: You can for one, you can choose which h party
Speaker 1: uh huh you vote for, And with the other you
Speaker 1: can choose one person directly.
Speaker 4: Okay. Now, now, how many different parties do you have,
Speaker 4: like like we we have multiple parties. We have the
Speaker 4: Green Party, but they're small and they're never even on
Speaker 4: the debate stages. How many major parties do you have?
Speaker 1: Uh? I think about five?
Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah, that's interesting. And the journalist thinks that
Speaker 4: the next person around the country will come from this
Speaker 4: back and you said it's tomorrow on Sunday, Oh Sunday.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, that's interesting.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: And by the way, just to backtrack, the World War
Speaker 4: One event I was talking about was called the Bonus
Speaker 4: Army incident. So in case you wanted to anybody wants
Speaker 4: to investigate that it was not a good thing. Wow,
Speaker 4: we've covered so much and a lot of things that
Speaker 4: we haven't talked about on podcasts before. I'm glad that
Speaker 4: we're able to include, you know, groups of people of
Speaker 4: folks outside the United States because we do have I'm
Speaker 4: able to see all over the world where our podcasts
Speaker 4: are downloaded, and we have a very big European audience.
Speaker 4: So I'm glad you know people are able to, you know,
Speaker 4: go to these YouTube channels that you mentioned and know
Speaker 4: that like minded people are indeed around them.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I hope so that somebody gets inspired and watch
Speaker 1: something new.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there you go, And before we go, I always
Speaker 4: like to ask our guest, is there something that we
Speaker 4: haven't covered yet that you wanted to mention or any
Speaker 4: any words for the audience.
Speaker 1: What I wanted to touch on is that in Germany
Speaker 1: it's not allowed to homeschool, and so it's obligated to
Speaker 1: go to school, and to go to school is obligated
Speaker 1: to get some vaccines for the children, So that means
Speaker 1: you're obligated to vaccine your children. That's something that bothers
Speaker 1: me because our child has one chat that we had
Speaker 1: to do because otherwise he was not allowed to go
Speaker 1: to the kindergarten, which is obligated in Germany as well.
Speaker 1: So you have to send your child from the age
Speaker 1: of minimum three years old, you have to send it
Speaker 1: to the public education system to say so. And that
Speaker 1: bars me a lot because I'm planning already how to
Speaker 1: strengthen his his how do you say, is thinking that
Speaker 1: he's very critical.
Speaker 4: And well, and you said it's mandatory starting at what age.
Speaker 1: We have to send them to the kindergarten at from three.
Speaker 4: Years from three years old? Yes, wow, yeah, so I'm looking.
Speaker 4: It says as far as Europe goes, homeschooling is illegal
Speaker 4: in Albania Andorra, Bosnia, Herzephegenia, Herzegovina, pardon me, in Bulgaria, Croatia,
Speaker 4: which is a beautiful country, Cyprus, Germany, Greece, Lithuania, and Sweden, Turkey.
Speaker 4: So there is many countries in Europe that don't allow homeschooling.
Speaker 4: And you know, we talk about on this podcast all
Speaker 4: the problems that we have in this country. But while
Speaker 4: most states here allow homeschooling, they are many variances. Like
Speaker 4: for me, I live in Delaware. The only thing I
Speaker 4: have to do is report her attendance at the beginning
Speaker 4: and the end of the year, and nothing else. But
Speaker 4: there are some states I want to say, it's either California, Oregon, Washington,
Speaker 4: I'd have to look and to remember, but that have
Speaker 4: much more draconian regulations going into test what they have
Speaker 4: to teach and you know, turning in certain things. So
Speaker 4: it does vary from state to state. But I do
Speaker 4: remember hearing that before about no homeschooling in Germany. And
Speaker 4: then that's the catch twenty two if they, you know,
Speaker 4: going to school, that they have to have the vaccines.
Speaker 1: So that's sad. But now only if you find something
Speaker 1: who is willing to give you a stamp in your
Speaker 1: book without having that, I think that's pretty hard.
Speaker 4: How aware would you say that the people are of Germany?
Speaker 4: And I know you can't give an accurate number, but
Speaker 4: just based upon general conversation, what percentage of the people
Speaker 4: would you say are aware of the dangers of the vaccines, that.
Speaker 1: Is, even though they are not awake. But there's a
Speaker 1: pretty big community, I would say, because there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people who are at least very critical and
Speaker 1: read a lot, and at least do only the obligated
Speaker 1: injections and not the other ones, because it's a shot
Speaker 1: which includes three diseases, which is obligated, and I know
Speaker 1: that many do only that and not the other ones.
Speaker 4: Did you see during COVID was there a lot of
Speaker 4: companies or federal jobs that it was mandatory to get
Speaker 4: the COVID vaccination?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 1: Then I had the other job and I was the
Speaker 1: only one which was not vaccinated, and I had a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure and stupid comments and they would think
Speaker 1: I'm crazy, And yeah, that was really rough. And I
Speaker 1: think I know from others that they went through that
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and so can you know, hats off to you.
Speaker 1: Yes, for me, it was, for example, as unvaccinated, forbidden
Speaker 1: to do a lot of things. Yes, I only had
Speaker 1: to go to the could go to the grocery restore,
Speaker 1: but yeah, other things you always had to show.
Speaker 4: You so you actually saw they had the vaccination passport
Speaker 4: where if you wanted to go into certain places you
Speaker 4: had to show you were vaccinated.
Speaker 1: Everywhere, yes, and if it was normal shopping for clothes
Speaker 1: or something like that, you weren't allowed. So literally we
Speaker 1: were controls in the entry.
Speaker 4: So the only place you were really allowed to go
Speaker 4: during that was the grocery store.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 4: Wow, in retrosprec and we're quick to you know, kind
Speaker 4: of forget those things and move on with our life.
Speaker 4: But what do you think back, you know, boy, that
Speaker 4: sure was some evil stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was often really upset and I cried a
Speaker 1: lot because the feeling was very hard. And now I'm
Speaker 1: very grateful that I went through it and didn't get
Speaker 1: the tap. But I know sadly some examples who then
Speaker 1: even if they didn't want couldn't stand the pressure, got it.
Speaker 1: And for example, the acquaintance had a stroke after that
Speaker 1: shortly I think within two weeks or something.
Speaker 4: That's awful. M did they not did they get did
Speaker 4: they put two and two together? Did they understand that
Speaker 4: that probably happened from the JAB or was it just
Speaker 4: cognitive business.
Speaker 1: She's sure that's from the JAB. And another one I
Speaker 1: know he as well, was not so sure to get
Speaker 1: the JAB, but he was was working as a teacher,
Speaker 1: and shortly after that she became cancel died. That was
Speaker 1: the father of a dear friend of mine. And they're
Speaker 1: sure as well that it was the vaccine, because I
Speaker 1: never remembered such a fit and healthy and sporty person
Speaker 1: he was. And sure, just like.
Speaker 4: That, Yeah, that's awful, but you know, I certainly commend
Speaker 4: you for you know, I know many people who endured that,
Speaker 4: and like yourself, they were ridiculed, they were pressured. They
Speaker 4: made my wife wear two masks before they fired her,
Speaker 4: just to ridicule her. She had to wear two masks.
Speaker 4: And it wasn't just to make her uncomfortable. It was
Speaker 4: so people could point out and see who the unvaccinated
Speaker 4: people were and to be mocked. But you know, principles,
Speaker 4: faith in God, all of that was by the wayside,
Speaker 4: just like yourself. We're so thankful that we were all
Speaker 4: able to decide step that mess. And I'm very hard
Speaker 4: to see, you know, I hear those stories all the time.
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry to hear, you know, the people who
Speaker 4: were pressured to succumb to some charrible things like stroke
Speaker 4: and cancer.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's really awful. Yeah, but I think at the
Speaker 1: end it made me a little bit stronger because I
Speaker 1: went through it. And I know, for example, because the
Speaker 1: Bible says at the end, every Christian will be persecuted,
Speaker 1: that's right of their beliefs. So maybe we have to
Speaker 1: think if we're now very in a comfortable position in
Speaker 1: our countries where we can live our faith, but yeah,
Speaker 1: who knows how the times will change, and we be
Speaker 1: aware of that too.
Speaker 4: Two Timothy three twelve says, yeah, and all that will
Speaker 4: live godly in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution, and that's
Speaker 4: you know, we have to expect it. But we will
Speaker 4: be rewarded handsomely for it. Yeah, and you know, I'm
Speaker 4: so grateful for people like yourself for standing up and
Speaker 4: not being pressured. And not only that, but here you
Speaker 4: are several years later, you're happy, you're healthy, and you're
Speaker 4: spreading the truth. So I can't thank you enough for that.
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a wonderful, wonderful interview. And stay in touch,
Speaker 4: and I'll leave all the links in the show notes,
Speaker 4: so please do reach out. I'll have Laura's email address
Speaker 4: in the show notes if you'd like to send a
Speaker 4: message to her, and Laura any last words to the
Speaker 4: audience as a look.
Speaker 1: Right now, at the time, it was one hour, eleven
Speaker 1: minutes and eleven seconds. Oh, no, one, Yeah, I only
Speaker 1: want to encourage everything to spread the truth, to stay
Speaker 1: in his faith with Jesus Christ, and maybe we should
Speaker 1: all pray for the persecuted Christians so that day really
Speaker 1: get encouraged.
Speaker 4: And yeah, amen to that. Thank you so much, and
Speaker 4: thank you for all of our listeners around the world
Speaker 4: and here in the United States for continuing to support
Speaker 4: the podcast. We have another international guest coming up next week.
Speaker 4: Look forward to that. You know, great content is always
Speaker 4: thanks to Laura. Thanks to everyone. God bless you all,
Speaker 4: and keep your head on a swivel until we meet again,
Speaker 4: my friends, we will see you.
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