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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentleman, and welcome to the six hundred

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and ninety fourth episode of the Geekers Podcast. I am

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the We've been here before, trust now, and I'm joined.

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Speaker 2: By I am that got me, Taylor Field.

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Speaker 1: You talking about the passenger trailer again? Is this you're

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talking about? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Not me personally though, Well I'll show that story when

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we get into this.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, le Joon and we are here. If you

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haven't guessed it, you might not buy the names, but

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you clicked on it, you saw the title. We are

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here to talk about Scream seven. Yes, the seventh edition

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of this franchise also goes all the way back to

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nineteen ninety six. We've never which I would love to.

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We've never done a full on retro, but I have

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reviewed Scream five and then me and Taylor reviewed Scream

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six together. So there are some backlock reviews that I

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guess I probably should have re released, but there are.

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That's why if you joined Patren, you got the entire

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backlock there. But yeah, we're here to talk about this movie.

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As usual. We're gonna give our non sports, which I

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feel like is a some movies. I know people are

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getting right into it. Other movies I know are people

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do listen as more was free because whether they're on

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the fence, they're gonna sit down. Line. I know lots

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of people, including our discord, which can you can join,

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that are scene in a way where they don't gotta

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give any money to Paramount. And that's completely fine, right

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because obviously, Tayor, this movie's been quite a bumpy road

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because abviously we had the original trilogy ended there they

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did a fourth one, so you know, so be it.

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And then in the Age of Halloween and Force Awakens

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and I'm sure missing a few others, but the legacy

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sequel happened, right, Taylor, And Okay, well, let's do that

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in the same sense that they called Scream just Scream

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five Just Scream, which I absolutely hate, which we'll talk

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about maybe in a weekly Geek Bonus episode you can

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see in the feed. I love that scary movie. Six

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is a console scary movie. They're like parroting that they

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do that, but I hate movies that do that. But

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obviously that was the biggest opening that brought the franchise

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in a big, bad way back, and then off the

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success of that, they wouldn't have six, and that was okay, sure,

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we brought some people back, but then it was we're

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starting a new cast, right. It's very much Force Awakens,

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where here's your right. Was the core four, that's what

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they called them, right, And then we get to six

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where Nev Campbell didn't come back, and that was which

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we'll talk about in this movie. That was for some

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fans obviously a point of contention because lots of people,

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including myself, somebody that has a daughter named Sydney, considers

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her like, that's my favorite scream queen, right, and lots

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of people have her there. How can you do a

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scream without her? Lots of talk about she wasn't getting

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kind of getting low ball, and everyone's like, oh, that's

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kind of shitty because like she's a face the franchise.

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How you can do that? She goes away, so it's

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his own controversy. And then you got Melissa Barrera, who

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I can't remember the fuck. I can't even fucking remember

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that character's name in those five and six, but anyway,

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she's the lead. And then in between this and now

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we're rung getting the full political thing, but obviously lots

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of things happening with Gaza on palasign, so on social media,

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she expressed her you know hashtag free pal sign, which

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I support. We've done streams for that. It's not a

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big issue. It's people that are innocent getting hurt. I

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think that's what people should focus on, is not the war.

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It's people that are innocent that have nothing to do

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with that they had heard. I think that was the idea,

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and I think that's why the other side where Okay,

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Nev didn't come back, people are pissed. People are pissed

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at that where it's like, Okay, she's just expressing that,

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you know, I don't want people to get hurt in

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this thing, and they canner right, and then General Ortaga leaves,

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the director's leave. It's this whole and then actually two

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directors leave. I guess one. We're on their way up,

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but still they had another director, so it's complete mess.

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So they go, Okay, we're gonna bring Nev back, bring

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Courtney Cox back. Here we are we got uh they

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didn't get Patrick Dempsey back. We're gonna time jump a

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little bit, or are they We're gonna talk about that

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with the daughter and here we are screen seven. So

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Taylfield in a non sports thought, Uh, what did you

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feel about Scream seven? Uh?

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Speaker 2: I actually really enjoyed it. It wasn't like the greatest

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movie of all time because there's there's certain decisions that

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characters make that really pull you out of it. That's

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not what are you doing? What are you doing? Then

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if the scene is slow enough that I can kind

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of catch up with my own mind and think like

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what I would do in this scenario, then I think, Okay,

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you kind of you're losing me a little bit. And

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general reception i'd say was pretty positive because a lot

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of people were having a good time in our theater.

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Speaker 1: Don't trust some of those people.

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Speaker 2: I had one guy with how vocal he was he

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Speaker 1: Hey, I'm happy he's having a good time, But if

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I'm not trusting him on his movie takes on the

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conversations behind luckily not like talking too much. Was like,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, but no, I think I need to do

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a proper rewatch of these movies. Because the only screams

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I've seen in theaters would have been yes, Scream six

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before this one, and then Scream four when I worked

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at the movie theater. I remember seeing that one in

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the theaters. But yeah, as for as for this, I

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think it's something that I would definitely rewatch because it

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kind of it caught me off guard.

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Speaker 1: A little bit.

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Speaker 2: But there were there was certain moments that I was

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able to predict certain things. Well, no, I'm not gonna

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say predicted. I'm not that cocky. There were certain things

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that were a little bit like tells certain things with

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they're trying to hide certain things. But then yeah, just

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it kind of was exposed. But there's other things that

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are just like scenes that are rushed way too fast,

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and it's just like the setup is horrible, like they're

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they're gas lighting and just all these different things like

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what the fuck is going on? Yeah, but I'm excited

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to kind of break it down a little bit. I

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just again to shout outs, well, we've got the previews

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at the beginning of the movie. Yes, there's that Passengers

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movie trailer that got me the.

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Speaker 1: Just Passenger, not Passengers with Jennifer Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: And that's right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's not online. You'd have to YouTube it. It's

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still just trailer or theater exclusive right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh really?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we the after nine after we saw that trailer

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you missed and we had to look for and it's

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just on or just in theatrical right now, but I

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can't find it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So yeah, that trailer is on and uh, I again,

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I knew it was coming with Scare, so I was.

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I was prepped for it, but I just dropped his

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phone and he was vocally like, oh that got me,

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just fucking killed me.

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Speaker 1: It did. I don't get how this gets anybody. This

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year is so obvious. I'm excited to see this movie.

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don't know. I'm not promising that because we get busy,

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but just feels like it's become a meme now. So yeah,

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has some credibility, so so overall you you liked it.

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Speaker 2: I liked it. Yes, I would recommend it, and I

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feel like i'd even say and recommend it for theaters

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because there's a lot of there's a lot of moments

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where ghost Face is walking and the camera just you

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get that base kicking in you hear his footsteps and

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the camera just kind of does that ominous like downwards

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like facing up views showing like him as the villain,

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and he just feels so menacing and powerful, and I

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job with that. That was one of the things I

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like to Scream six too, was getting the different sequences

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with ghost Face in these different scenarios and then like

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you don't see ghost Face brandishing other weapons, but the

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the shock and it's like this is like this is

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call of duty skin right, Like it's like what we

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got going on here? So but yeah, just in here,

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emphasizing how ominous this villain is. And yeah, I really

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enjoyed it. Every time ghost Face was on on the screen,

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they did these things and this isn't a spoiler, And

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this is where I think it really looks good on

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the big screen is a character is doing something and

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all black behind them, but then you see the shape

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of ghost face masks just slightly there and then it disappears,

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like leaves. I do feel like they're invoking a lot

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of Halloween in this one, which is kind of odd

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for another franchise to be doing that. So but yeah,

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I know, people have all their favors, but that very

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first one to me is something very special and really

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kind of revolutionized horror in the nineties, and people are

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trying to chase that dragon a lot, right, and the franchise.

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I think everyone has their favorites and whatnot, but I

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then the last one, and that's where my thing was.

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my expectations for this movie was to be the second

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worst Scream, and I guess luckily I can say I

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think that is true. It's not the worst scream, I

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guess for me, and I think everybody's gonna feel different

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about it. I think for me, the last scream just

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got to such a believable, unbelievable amount. Nothing about the

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nev thing. I was completely fine with them moving on.

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wish you would have a happy ending, So I was

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fine with Okay, here's the new legacy of people go

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you know, and people like those characters, and they were

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making money, so I was fine with that. It was

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just more how unbelievable got. It got very convoluted, and

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it got to the final killer reveal was not good.

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happened there. This has similar of those issues where there

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the killer in multiple facets, and I feel like there's

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maybe one good red herring with the red Herrings are

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either very obvious or very just kind of cheesy, or

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we've kind of been here before. And I think that's

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where I am with this because I feel that they

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againness was. I think there's about two things that are

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big plot points that they do a little bit different

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friendly that were very fun kind of twists right when

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you think you're going straight, okay, it goes, but then

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the rest of the movie excuse me, kind of falls

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your similar ghost face screen pattern. So you know, I

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and Sydney being back. But I just I feel that

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the PlayStation behind me. To you, it's just waiting to

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more I want to do, I'd go, you know what,

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I unless this review does very well, because that's why

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sometimes we do things, because you know, this is still

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our small business, right, But I'm not like anticipating it now.

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much like the last one, felt like they should be

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more in a scary movie, like the parody movie then

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versus Scream, And I don't think that's good. I don't

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think once you start agetting that thing where the thing

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that used to make fun of you, you do those

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things still, it just shows you haven't evolved. In Plus,

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it's still Ken Williamson who wrote those original ones, but

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there is no evolution where I feel like it was Scream

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six there was almost a de evolution. So I feel

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like I just don't know what more there is to

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do with this franchise. And I think there is more

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to do it, I just don't think they want to

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go that route. I think they, other than a few

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twists and turns, they like to stay in their little bubble.

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that wrote the originals and now he's directing. But I

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feel like at times we've talked about all time, especially

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about as the Star Wars a fan service, right, I

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feel like there's some good fans service stuff in here,

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there's a fan film that we were talking about, or

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at least I watched, and I just remember I said

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to you, like, if I ever did this, I would know.

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I'm just be so overtly just doing the same things

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over and over. And it's not just like similar plot beats.

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there's three moments where it's the exact scene, exact same

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scene as Scream one, and it's the same song. It's

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not even like a cover of it, it's the exact

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same song. They do that three times. I'm kind of

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fine if you do it once, but find a new

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way to work those things in. Yeah, that's where i'd say,

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like this leaned more into the fans or stuff. This

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led more into oh man, I've seen a bad fan

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film with this, But I think, you know, acting is

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good enough. I don't think we've got enough time with

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the new characters. But that's the tough thing now, right,

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because it's like they did that with Scream five, like

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here's your new characters, but now it's like, well, actually

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here's Sidney with the new characters, So you don't get

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enough time the new characters. I like the person. I'd

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have to look up her name. I'd like the pristal

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place her daughter enough, that's good.

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looks like Jaylaw.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I disagree. I think there's Yeah, I don't think

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she looks like Jaylaw like I think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she had some like some similarities, but I didn't

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get that from but I I enjoyed her. I think

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she was a good like co lead. But I think

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with her and other I think almost with everybody, all

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the story beats really soffer here and it's I know,

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it's very surface level. So I think I could recon

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definitely would. I don't think I'm gonna fail this. I

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don't know where my phone is. I have to look

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at like, I think I failed the last Scream movie,

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but this is not like much higher than that. I

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still think it's a past because I think the last

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Screw movie for me got just completely ridiculous or really

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is that what I gave it?

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Speaker 2: Would you get?

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Speaker 1: I think this is like a three point five out

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of five?

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Speaker 2: Well you love that movie?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's way and I remember giving that. Holy fuck.

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So I'm gonna redact and at least I don't know

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so take out the Scream six score. I need to

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think about it. I guess I need to watch Scream six.

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I need to think about that. So I would I

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would pass this, but it's not like a strong pass

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and I don't know if I have same like that's

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saying Scream six. I've never watched again. Screams five I've

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watched multiple times. I enjoy that. Scream six I haven't watched.

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I don't think i'll need to. And same as Screen seven,

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I don't see myself other than maybe doing a binge

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one day or if the kids really want to watch

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it when they're older, sure, but I'm not out of

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my way, like I can't wait to see Screen stays like, Okay,

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I got my phill, I got this. Uh that's done.

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So yeah, Uh anything else there non sports?

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nothing else. I would just say, if you like these

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movies and you want to see in the theater, I think,

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like Day said, yeah, there's some good score and silence,

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you go see it with people. I think you we'll

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have a fun time with it. But then I also

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think for anybody that is on that camp where they

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don't want to support this, whether it's for the morero

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thing or all the other politics stuff, I don't think

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it's a thing where it's like, man, you're really missing out.

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must scene screen movie. I won't say ever, but I

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just don't know what this crew, if there's gonna be

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end of the road, but I don't think it will

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because I think this will make money and then they'll

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go make Screen eight and yeah, we will see. So

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We will address this first coment because I think this

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is a good place to go first. Alex, Alex rad

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I'm just gonna call you Alex for sort because I

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think I fucked your name up before. But so so

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so Sue is Dad. No more conspiracy theories by fans,

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screams by scream fans. Oh, I'm sure still be out

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there right because that's been a popul thing. So I

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think I should have said this to non sports, but

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I want to walk a fy in line, and I

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think that's the thing that is a little maybe underwhelming

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with the killer and the reveals and everything, because all right,

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so we had heard about Stu gonna be back, and

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Matthew Lillard's here. It's kind of like what we've heard

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as far as rumors that they were bringing all these

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killers back as Ai, but Matthew Lillard is the main one.

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He gets multiple scenes. I think it's just, oh, it's tough, right,

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I'll say that in the sense what I was getting

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at is they want they wanted to bake their cake

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and eat it too. It feels like they wanted to

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do a movie where Stu was back and was the killer,

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but they're like, well, we can't reckon that. And they

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even say that right. The killers when they get there

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be like, oh, I can't wreckon that be stupid, that's

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too obvious, or that would hurt the franchise. It's like okay,

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but it just feels like that's carrying you until the

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reveal of who the killers are. And it's tough because

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it's kind of like what everyone says, there's some movies

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and should be shows have found a way, right, but

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it's like texting scenes can never be that or are

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usually not that exciting, right, So multiple times. You know,

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the kill happens at first, and then they call Sydney.

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It starts his ghost face Roder Jackson. Then it goes

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into Stu's voice and say, oh, Sue Marker's dad and

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she shows up on he shows up on the screen.

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And granted I like that. It was like he had

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burns on his face. He looked older, so that made sense, right.

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The problem is it's just Matthew Like it's still cool.

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And I don't get wrong, I think it's a fun

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way to bring these people back. It's a good way

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to get some cameos and it's not ghosts or whatever. Sure,

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and in this day of technology, that does work in

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my opinion, But the scenes just feel so and I

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think Matthew Lillard is working his ass off. I think

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he's trying his best to invoke Stu. The problem is

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it's like somehow Roger Jackson when he's on the phone

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with the voice, feels more alive than when it's just

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Matthew Lillard on a screen and that's all it is.

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It's like if you're facing with someone and all his

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scenes are just he's face sending someone or he's on

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the screen like fucking joker at Arkham Asylum.

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Speaker 1: He does his best. It's just it's hard to engage

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with the scenes because there's no payoff, like is dead

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Matthew ARD's not gonna show up, right, So it's like

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that's what you kind of want, so they kind of

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just That's how I said they it's kind of a

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cheat where Okay, ghost Face is really gonna be like

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it's not really it's Stu. Ghost Face is Stu, the

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spirit of Stu. But when we get down to the

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end of it, it's like, it's not actually gonna be

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Stu because we don't want to go that far. And

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don't get me wrong, I don't think they should have

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gone that far, right, So Justin WI says this was

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disrespectful to the fans with Stu BS. They paid the

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price four percent around the mails four out of ten movie. Yeah,

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I Uh, Wes Craig wouldn't be disappointed. I can't speak

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for Wes. I don't off saying. Don't don't know the man,

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so I don't know what he would have thought. I

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guess like what I want to ask Justin and for

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and you can put this up in the chat and

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anybody else. Uh, why would you be disappointed with with Stu.

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Was it just that he's not alive? I guess I

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just never thought that was a fact. I thought like

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what they did with him was fine. I think it's

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fun to see Matthew Little are having a comeback, and

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they got to do that with Skeet all work a

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couple of times. I'm not saying like four and ten.

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I don't think my score is that far from it.

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I still would passed this movie, but I'm not like

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defending it in that sort of sense. And maybe I'd

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failed eventually if I did a rewatch, because there is

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some pretty there's some pretty bad moments in this movie.

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But yeah, so like we speculated they used to do.

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For Hey, I thought they were gonna use the other

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killers a bit more, but they are just in the

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climactic battle where Sidney's in the house. Of course, her

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daughter gets kidnapped. Sidney's in the house, she's walking around,

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and that's when we're getting the Arkham Asylum joker things

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where they're popping on the screen and they got Scott

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Foley back and him and I'm forgetting her name. She

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was the killer in Scream two. God She's Billy Love

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was his mother. I'm forgetting actress's mother. She's or the

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actress's name, but she's a great character actress. So I

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thought we were gonna get more of them, but they're

473
00:20:52,839 --> 00:20:56,039
really just in just in the one scene there at

474
00:20:56,079 --> 00:21:01,400
the end, which is okay, And then for the actual killers,

475
00:21:01,599 --> 00:21:03,079
we'll go to tail on a second, see to step

476
00:21:03,079 --> 00:21:07,480
away for the actual killers. It's not convoluted that I

477
00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:11,079
can't follow it. It's just kind of all right, And

478
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,960
don't get me wrong, you know, I, oh, hang on,

479
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,119
I'll check back anyone. Justin he's got a he's got

480
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,079
a Stu avatar, so I'm giving him some moment here,

481
00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,400
or them some moment. Well, Scream three was supposed to

482
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:24,960
have Stu alive. He wanted to happen. He made made

483
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,240
the script, but the Columbian shooting happened, and the script

484
00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:29,519
was so dark they had to cut it. And he

485
00:21:29,599 --> 00:21:32,519
said in the future he wanted to happen. Yeah, but

486
00:21:32,599 --> 00:21:34,680
things have changed though, right, Like, I think that's the

487
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,680
unfortunate that these real life things, right, just and that

488
00:21:37,759 --> 00:21:39,759
happens all the time in other scripts and other movies.

489
00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:42,400
I think now it is kind of like what the

490
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,599
movie said, if he was alive somewhere just like missing,

491
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:47,640
and they didn't see him, and so all his body

492
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,000
wasn't burned. It would feel kind of like it feel

493
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,880
a little cheesy, the fact that he'd be gone for

494
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,319
this long. I think it's fun that they played into it.

495
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,720
I think that's just unfortunate timing where that stuff happened

496
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,200
with Scream three, and it is what it is, right,

497
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,839
you can't go back and change the past.

498
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:02,119
Speaker 2: Now.

499
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,640
Speaker 1: I don't know how I would have felt about that,

500
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,799
because I don't even love the god Uh fuck, I'm

501
00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:12,079
forgetting his name too. It's getting late. I'm forgot. I'm tired.

502
00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:15,599
What the hell is his name? Roman. I don't love

503
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,480
the brother reveal either in Scream three. When you get

504
00:22:19,519 --> 00:22:21,759
start lineage and oh I've been here the whole time,

505
00:22:21,799 --> 00:22:23,799
it gets a little dicey. I don't also like the

506
00:22:23,839 --> 00:22:26,119
whole like, well I really got Billy and study due

507
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,799
It's like, yeah, all right, I guess. So maybe I

508
00:22:28,839 --> 00:22:30,880
could have been a better version, right, I think, don't

509
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,480
get me wrong, it would have been better to have

510
00:22:32,559 --> 00:22:36,720
Matthew Lillard back. But yeah, I don't know. It's tough.

511
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,000
I think this is the best you can get. I

512
00:22:38,079 --> 00:22:40,119
think at least just be even if you're not happy

513
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,519
with it, be happy with you got to see him

514
00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:43,240
kind of how fun he ghost face like a little

515
00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:46,000
bit like via the screen. But anyways, I will get

516
00:22:46,039 --> 00:22:48,400
the movie credit for one thing is I did really

517
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,240
enjoy where Okay, the killing start, we'll get to the

518
00:22:50,279 --> 00:22:53,720
characters with the killing start, and then they go to

519
00:22:53,759 --> 00:22:58,240
Sydney's home, which makes very little sense. They these killings

520
00:22:58,279 --> 00:23:02,519
start God Tatum right the name now after Tatum, she

521
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:04,680
they go home. They're gonna get out of her. She

522
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,599
lost one of her close friends. Okay, we got to

523
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,519
pack up. The police come in and they do a

524
00:23:09,519 --> 00:23:11,480
whole sweep of the house because with the whole thing

525
00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:13,799
they're they're gonna just get their go bags get out

526
00:23:13,839 --> 00:23:14,039
of there.

527
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 2: Right.

528
00:23:14,319 --> 00:23:16,839
Speaker 1: Sidney's like, hey, I've done this before. We stick around

529
00:23:16,839 --> 00:23:20,839
more people just get hurt. So they're packing up, which

530
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,160
I actually like this. They're they're packing up and they oh,

531
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,599
the house is clear. They leave and then as everyone

532
00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:28,640
goes in the room is the pack They like zoom

533
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,319
up and they show the attict So it's like, okay,

534
00:23:32,319 --> 00:23:34,279
that's fun. It's kind of letting us in on ghost faces.

535
00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:37,240
There up and Attick. He's coming right, so for me,

536
00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:41,640
he gets out and then he starts attacking everybody. And

537
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,640
then when he attacks Mark, which we'll get into Mark,

538
00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,240
there's gunshots. The police are still outside. The police are

539
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,440
when we get when this scene ends, they're still out there.

540
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,960
There's still multiple cop cars out there. Why aren't they

541
00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:54,559
running into the house. And especially to even me, it's

542
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:56,920
like they don't have to be in their fucking rooms,

543
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,839
Like I get it right, Like if Sydney or if Tatum,

544
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,680
I'm talking about Taylor, how uh, because Taylor's back When

545
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:05,960
they the first friend dies and they go to clean

546
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,279
the house, they search the house and they're about to leave,

547
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,400
how ghosts a cat attacks them and there's gunshots going on,

548
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,839
but none of the cops from outside coming to help

549
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,480
at all. It is that stuff where it's like, this

550
00:24:17,559 --> 00:24:19,279
is the guy that wrote the original scream in the

551
00:24:19,319 --> 00:24:21,599
troph I think he wrote all other three ones. Uh,

552
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,440
he wrote the original scream. This is like this is

553
00:24:24,599 --> 00:24:27,240
Grade A one. Like what I was saying is I

554
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,480
would understand the police not being in Tatum's bedroom or

555
00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:32,119
Sydney's bedroom. They got a change pack. Okay, why aren't

556
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,599
the police just in the fucking living room downstairs, like well, wait,

557
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,880
we're gonna be here. This is and her husband is

558
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,559
the chief of police, so I'd say he's very valuable.

559
00:24:39,799 --> 00:24:41,799
Speaker 2: So not only wrote that off right because they said, oh,

560
00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:43,880
we're gonna go canvas, the neighborhood can clear it.

561
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: No one's gonna stay back, not one other officer. That's

562
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,839
gonna be bullshit. Now I get it. It's like, oh,

563
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,079
he would just take about right, But like that's the point.

564
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:57,599
It's little stuff of just like why why why can

565
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,680
you not just add one cop? There are a couple

566
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,960
of cos it just made no And also the gun

567
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,160
shots too, It's like the cops ever ran in. We

568
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,480
get to the point where they run outside and then

569
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:08,440
all the police are out there. It's like, I guess

570
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,160
they're camps in the area, but they wouldn't hurt a gun.

571
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,960
And it's not one gun shot. There's a one where

572
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,559
him and ghost faces the homely guns like like it's

573
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,480
it's laugh So that and this is where I said,

574
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,079
Tara is really in the theater. It'll things will forget

575
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,039
because we just watched the movie and I'm not taking notes.

576
00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:23,440
Multiple things like that happened in this movie where you

577
00:25:23,519 --> 00:25:26,279
just go just one little change in the scene and

578
00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:29,960
it wouldn't feel dumb. I'll just answer this one and

579
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,240
then I'll go to you Taylor on a few things.

580
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,079
But it would be perfect mode since he didn't have

581
00:25:35,079 --> 00:25:36,799
one in Scream one. Oh, I get what you're saying.

582
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,880
I think I said something else. Yeah, what did you

583
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,440
feel about Stu? The use of Stu and Ai Stu

584
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:44,119
and alviously we didn't get much of the other kills,

585
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,319
But what do you feel about that? Mcguffin, Because I said,

586
00:25:46,319 --> 00:25:47,759
I was saying to you while you're going that it

587
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:50,240
kind of felt like they wanted Stu to Bego's face,

588
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,359
but they really didn't want to go full Monty and

589
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,920
like bring them back to life. So I feel like

590
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,759
it was kind of like a cheat where it's like, Okay,

591
00:25:56,279 --> 00:26:00,119
we we really want Matthew Lillard and his performance to

592
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,160
to carry this, but at the end, it's not gonna

593
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,000
be him. So what do you feel about Stu's usage?

594
00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: I'm happy with it because as soon as we saw him,

595
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,440
I thought, well, I don't like that so early on

596
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,799
we just got the reveal here that's kind of lame.

597
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,039
Speaker 1: Oh, I liked that. I didn't mind that. I actually

598
00:26:14,039 --> 00:26:16,720
didn't like either too. Or I liked the first ghost

599
00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:19,279
Faces Killer being like killed in the first act. I

600
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,599
liked that too, And I like that.

601
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,599
Speaker 2: I like that because it makes me wonder, like, Okay,

602
00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:25,640
what was the long term plan here? Like was was

603
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,559
he Was it intentional for him to die? Was he

604
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,839
just kind of sent there to test it? Because I mean, so,

605
00:26:31,079 --> 00:26:34,359
I don't think the original character or the I don't

606
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,559
think the other two.

607
00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 1: The real the final ghost Face Killers.

608
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:42,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they anticipated Gaale Weathers to just appear.

609
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: No, but I think they expected him to die because

610
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,839
they even say the two twins are like, oh, they're

611
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,039
trying to get the old Sydney Prescott back. So I

612
00:26:50,079 --> 00:26:52,000
feel like it was a test, even though it's always

613
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,759
funny in these movies, like what happens if Carl just

614
00:26:53,839 --> 00:26:55,759
killed them and the two kids like fuck man, we

615
00:26:55,799 --> 00:27:00,839
had this whole plan and nothing happened, you know. So Yeah,

616
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,200
so I think they meant Carl to die.

617
00:27:03,799 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, I think sorry, what was the original.

618
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: Question just to killers?

619
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I need to revisit the original film

620
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:21,000
to kind of remind myself about this characters. Stu so

621
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:25,000
forgive me for not being super well versed on on

622
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,839
stew but I found it believable. And I think the

623
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,119
use of AI is very clever because we're definitely live

624
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,160
in an age where I mean, it's it's funny because coincidentally,

625
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,440
on the radio today I heard they were getting reports

626
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,720
from people that there was AI fake like city police

627
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,160
officers that were zoom calling and it was AI and

628
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,319
they were zoom calling asking people for personal information. And

629
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:49,480
it's like, man, this just ties hand in hand with

630
00:27:49,519 --> 00:27:51,000
what we just watched for Scream, Like.

631
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's completely believable. Now like maybe maybe like

632
00:27:53,759 --> 00:27:55,960
even five years ago, some of this would happened, we'd

633
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,720
be like, oh, I don't know. Now is the things

634
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,319
that happened, this is completely believable, even though I will

635
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,519
say and this isn't where like the red Herrings were

636
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:08,920
too much for me. The boyfriend, right, So a few

637
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,039
things with the boyfriend. One that's what I hated because

638
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,160
you saidiot watched Scream one. It's literally the windows open,

639
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,200
he comes through and he's saying the same lines and

640
00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:19,759
Billy so that's yeah, familiar, and they're playing the exact

641
00:28:19,799 --> 00:28:23,039
same song. It's a cover of uh uh. It's a

642
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:25,440
cover of Few of the Reaper. It's it's literally the

643
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,200
exact same song from Scream one. So it's like, all right,

644
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,680
we're literally that. That's where this felt like very fan

645
00:28:30,759 --> 00:28:33,079
film me. Even the point too, when she walks out

646
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,000
and she's like wearing Sid's jacket from college. If you

647
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,680
don't no, ta that's her attire from Scream two. Sydney's

648
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,680
tire is that jacket. But she walks that's like my jacket.

649
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,319
This big deal, like about this jacket. I thought I

650
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,960
threw that out and it's just like it's just like,

651
00:28:51,079 --> 00:28:53,039
I guess I get it. She killed some people in

652
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:56,079
that jacket happened, but they that just felt very much

653
00:28:56,119 --> 00:28:58,039
like if I was watching YouTube fane, like let's make

654
00:28:58,079 --> 00:29:00,400
a big deal about the leather jacket. And know what's

655
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,920
weird is later on, like ten minutes later in the movie,

656
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,680
she just like leaves in the house and every goes

657
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,519
back like she leaves on the ladder and ever he

658
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:08,480
comes the thing again, this jacket. So it was like

659
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,000
super odd of just like I would rather just wear

660
00:29:11,039 --> 00:29:12,640
the jack and her just be like, man, you remind

661
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,920
me like you look like me, and like so that happened.

662
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,480
But one of the red herrings is and everybody, every

663
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,160
fucking person you've worked with a you do a sou there,

664
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,039
we'll get there. But they're doing the just like they

665
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:27,680
didn't screen five the Twins or the Meek Twins, like, Okay,

666
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,680
we're going to interview everybody, Susan kill. It's probably someone

667
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,519
you know, like right, and again Spoils, I did appreciate

668
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,799
it's not someone they knew. I liked that aspect. Well,

669
00:29:37,079 --> 00:29:38,839
I guess technically no, it's a lie. Still one of

670
00:29:38,839 --> 00:29:41,279
them was one person and they know I will get there.

671
00:29:41,799 --> 00:29:44,640
But anyway, so they're interviewing them for some reason. The

672
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,759
boyfriend and her leave and she like sits. I don't

673
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:52,200
even know how it's happened. She like sits in the

674
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,480
pastor seat, and his Mac is like halfway open and

675
00:29:55,519 --> 00:29:59,880
it's open to like some software that's turning him into Stu.

676
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,799
Right now, for people, if you're just listening, you don't

677
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,480
care about this movie, just set the scene. He's not

678
00:30:05,839 --> 00:30:08,200
guilty at all. The boyfriend's just Red Harry and he's

679
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:09,880
a good guy. Anytime there's a boyfriend, it's gonna be

680
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,799
Red Harry. Because Billy fucking loomis right, but he's there,

681
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,599
the laptops there, she sees what is this, what's this?

682
00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:22,559
And it's him working on software. Now the answer to this,

683
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,119
and we don't get much answer because he gets killed

684
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:27,279
pretty soon after, but clearly the answer is, oh, he

685
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,599
was testing the software to see if it was possible

686
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,200
someone could do this, right, if someone could make themselves

687
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,079
look like ste Mocker and Paul wool overies. The problem

688
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,759
is when she pulls up the footage, he is in

689
00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:42,880
the carra like I'm gonna slit your fucking throat, I'm

690
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,400
gonna eat your guts, and he does the he there's

691
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:51,400
no reason if I said, Taylor, can you test the

692
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:52,799
software for me? I just want to see if you

693
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:55,480
can make yourself look like Ted Bundy, right, I'd find

694
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:56,200
it pretty fuck you.

695
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna copy his mannerism exactly, and like, not only.

696
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: Is this like I would understand if this was like, oh,

697
00:31:02,519 --> 00:31:04,119
back in the day before I met you, like I

698
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,240
was a family's movies and my friend's fucked around like

699
00:31:06,319 --> 00:31:08,640
she found something. This is current day. This is a

700
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,279
guy who is like about to become an adult graduate

701
00:31:11,279 --> 00:31:14,160
and he's like, I'm gonna slip you're throw and he's like, no, no, baby,

702
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,599
it's not what you think. And it's like what else

703
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:20,720
even to Like even if that if he survived, which

704
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:23,400
is done because she punches him. They run. Of course

705
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,720
he finds her and then he's like, I'm not the

706
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:26,119
killed chick. I know, baby, I know it's not you.

707
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,440
He was gone the whole time. I don't know how

708
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,000
she knows. That's because he's about to get killed. So

709
00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:33,359
it's sad. But even in real life, if that person

710
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:35,880
wasn't the killer and they survived, I'm not dating that

711
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,880
person any fucking more. That person's doing these weird AI

712
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,319
videos acting like that. It was so that, Like I

713
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:44,200
think this movie had a lot of bad red herrings,

714
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,839
but that was the worst one of him acting like

715
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,000
Stumacher on his computer like oh, it's not what you think.

716
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,039
It's not what you think.

717
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's just there's no grounds for it. Like when

718
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:57,079
when I saw it, do even even I genuine genuinely

719
00:31:57,119 --> 00:32:00,480
believe like you're the fucking killer man, Like why would

720
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,519
you do that? Like it's just he was not selling

721
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:05,400
it because he was just brushing it off, like there,

722
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,400
it's it's you know, it's nothing. It's nothing, and I

723
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,039
was just trying to see if I could do it. Yeah,

724
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:11,000
what the fuck?

725
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: That's why she's like, why don't someone in there just

726
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:15,799
be like, just make it that it's just a picture

727
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:18,039
of the boyfriend and a picture of Stu and that's it,

728
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:19,839
and then you can do the whole Okay, I'm testing

729
00:32:19,839 --> 00:32:22,240
the software to help you out to catch this killer, right,

730
00:32:22,519 --> 00:32:27,240
not him like giving line Like he's literally giving lines

731
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,000
that this person gave to her mom that like killed

732
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,359
a bunch of her friends. Like that's fucking weird. That's

733
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,720
so fucked up. And that's one thing I'll just say

734
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,319
about in general, I feel and know it's funny to

735
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,799
her she never found out that her other friends got

736
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,599
killed on screen when this we ended true, Yeah, like

737
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,839
I'm sure she found out, but she never reacted. We

738
00:32:45,839 --> 00:32:46,599
never found that out.

739
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: Was Lucas really a friend, I don't know, the other

740
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,640
girl was well neighbor, Yeah, but the other girl was

741
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:52,720
definitely more of a friend.

742
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's fair. But still didn't not even a

743
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,519
scene of her reacting to that, not even like, oh

744
00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:57,920
and I killed your other friends and you have her

745
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,359
cry nothing they like, And that's one thing I'd say

746
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:04,200
again as a negative, I don't think we spent so, yes,

747
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,640
how many ghostface killers where there was three, even though

748
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,400
I feel like it's more like two point five because Carl,

749
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,160
I think, was just like a guy from the Looney

750
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,839
Bin that they just pointed and go, So you go

751
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,480
kill this person for us, right? Because I guess I'll

752
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,119
say we might get back to friends, and I'll ask

753
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,000
you if you agree or disagree. I feel like we

754
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:23,200
need way more time with this friends group. I did

755
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,799
not feel connected with them at all other than City's daughter.

756
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,039
I did not feel like we spent enough time with

757
00:33:28,079 --> 00:33:30,279
these characters for me to miss them getting killed. Where

758
00:33:30,279 --> 00:33:32,160
Scream one, you spent tons of time with.

759
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 2: Them, right, True, So you're saying Carl not really included

760
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,039
in the three. So which ghost face was in the school? Then?

761
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,160
Was that Carl at the beginning? No, I don't know.

762
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:47,799
Speaker 1: It could be anybody. I think Carl could just be

763
00:33:47,839 --> 00:33:51,599
sitting outside like the porchway for Sidney to come home. Obviously.

764
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:54,720
That is always the fun thing after Scream, is when

765
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:56,079
you watch them all to try and figure out who

766
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:57,799
could be doing what That could have been any of them,

767
00:33:57,799 --> 00:33:59,880
I guess, But I feel like for time wise, well

768
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:02,039
because that scream was in the attic, right or that

769
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:04,799
ghost face, So wouldn't it make more sense for one

770
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:06,160
and the other two to be at the school. And

771
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,400
that's when Carl's was behind the attic, and I feel like,

772
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,039
and he does count, but I just feel like he's

773
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,760
more They they established that he's mentally disturbed, so I

774
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,920
just feel like they probably just you know, pointed him

775
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,760
in that direction. I don't think he was actually like

776
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,119
scheming and making the AI videos and stuff. I think yeah,

777
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:22,519
he was just like almost a decoy.

778
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's fair. I was trying to think, Okay, well,

779
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,960
which one was in the attic as well at that time?

780
00:34:28,519 --> 00:34:32,480
Wasn't the neighbor The neighbor was out, Yeah, probably.

781
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: With the kid Carl it to car or to be

782
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:35,960
the other guy.

783
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right because he's he's.

784
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: Not there too. But uh yeah, Alex said it felt

785
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,400
like it was rush. Yeah, I agree with that. But yeah,

786
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,480
did you feel like we got enough time with the friends?

787
00:34:45,039 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: No? And it's funny because when I was driving home

788
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,079
on the radio, the guy was like, yeah, Scream seven's

789
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:51,719
coming out this weekend, and guess what, there's over seventeen

790
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,840
people list posted on like the movie poster for this movie,

791
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,039
that's a lot of storylines.

792
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: It feels like that is a lot of.

793
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: Storylines to squeeze in here.

794
00:34:59,519 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: Jesus, Yeah, it feels like that. So and then we'll

795
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,760
get to because we talked about the actual killer. So

796
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,880
again where it's super this it's super convoluted, not a

797
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:11,840
convlute where we don't understand, just so I want to

798
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,840
say convoluted. It's just like long and for me born

799
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,239
they set up and so I got half of this right.

800
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,199
I thought, I'll get the character's name. But there's the neighbors,

801
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,679
and there's a mom and son deal. I did think

802
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,400
the other killer was so it's Anna Camp. I did

803
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,519
think the other killer was the son. I thought it

804
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:31,599
was gonna be her and the sun together. I thought

805
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:32,800
it was gonna be a thing where they kind of

806
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,840
grew up. And she told the story of that just

807
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,760
because in The Boys or whatever, we've seen him play

808
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,239
like kind of a psycho, So I thought they're gonna

809
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,039
do that. I did think they were doing red herrings

810
00:35:42,079 --> 00:35:43,760
too much, but then I thought, okay, they're doing that

811
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,800
on purpose. But what it is is and she or

812
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:50,360
the other guy kills her own son and she's just

813
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,159
completely fine, no emotion there, okay, cool, which is just

814
00:35:54,199 --> 00:35:55,920
so funny because like Scream two is all about the

815
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,480
killer becoming a killer because like someone killed her son,

816
00:35:59,519 --> 00:36:01,639
like the mother the love of a mother, right, And

817
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:03,119
I feel like they could have played more than that

818
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:05,119
that her son's dead, but they did. It's just like

819
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:07,039
an off mention, like you, what about your son? I

820
00:36:07,039 --> 00:36:09,000
didn't like them, he's too much like his dad. Moving on.

821
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,440
Is Sam mentioned in this, I don't think by name.

822
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:17,840
They mentioned the events of the sixth film. They also

823
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,760
take a lot of shots at that sixth film too.

824
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,840
They're like, well, it's not true ghosts face killing if

825
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,800
Sydney's not there. And they're like, oh, well, I didn't

826
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,400
care about like go say killing because you sat that

827
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,440
one out. So if you're a fan of that, I

828
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,039
don't think it's like a like a like you can't

829
00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:32,239
watch this. But they definitely take their time to kind

830
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,360
of like crap on it a little bit. I thought

831
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:37,119
the twins would die so the meets Twins, so I

832
00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,880
thought they would crap on it even more, but they survived.

833
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,920
Didn't do much for them anyway, So the killer and

834
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,000
a camp. So she's a neighbor with her son. Her

835
00:36:44,079 --> 00:36:46,159
son's one of he's one of the Red Harriings because

836
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:48,440
he's just a date line like true crime fan, right.

837
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,440
He does get killed in a very stupid way. Hate

838
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,440
his kill. A person takes They're at a bar and

839
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,639
the ghost face takes his head and like slams it

840
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,480
on this thing. It's like, why is this thing so

841
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,280
sharp in the like it's literally like a medieval weapon.

842
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:05,880
But he puts puts his head on this bar like

843
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,960
beer filler. And then when he puts it down, the

844
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,400
beer like shooter like the whatever. I don't know what

845
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:11,760
it's called.

846
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:12,199
Speaker 2: I don't know.

847
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, the nozzle goes off and it's shooting blood and

848
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,159
beer out of his mouth. I was like, that definitely

849
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:20,079
took some points off from me. Not a fan of that.

850
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:23,199
Not a fan, you're a fan, I see laughing. Oh.

851
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 2: I think it was very creative, but I definitely didn't

852
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,920
need it. Uh yeah, I just feel like it was

853
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,039
a little unnecessary because it's just you have all these

854
00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:35,800
other kills that just are like quick, you know, gut

855
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,280
shots and stuff like that, and like one other kill

856
00:37:38,559 --> 00:37:40,079
at the beginning of the movie with the two people

857
00:37:40,079 --> 00:37:41,880
in the house, where it's like, okay, the boyfriend gets

858
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,639
it in the side of the head and you see

859
00:37:43,639 --> 00:37:45,920
his eye turning sideways and whatnot. But then all of

860
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,480
a sudden you get a very articulated and over the

861
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,559
top kill thrown into all just the stabbings and randomness.

862
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:55,039
It's like, well, that just feels a little out of place.

863
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,559
Speaker 1: This is the kills in this for a while, because

864
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,559
I like, I'm somebody that I was fine with one

865
00:38:00,679 --> 00:38:04,039
movie doing this, maybe four, But I'm on the camp.

866
00:38:04,039 --> 00:38:06,079
But I don't think the Scream movie's gotta be so gory.

867
00:38:06,159 --> 00:38:09,000
I think this one went overboard on the gore. I

868
00:38:09,039 --> 00:38:11,400
think it's stuff like, to me, the perfect gore level

869
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,920
is in Scream one when he's stabbing Drew Barrymore and

870
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,360
then from a wide shot you can see her hang

871
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,960
from a tree and her test signs up. I think

872
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,920
that's the type of corere. It's like, oh that gets you.

873
00:38:21,199 --> 00:38:23,320
There's literally stuff where he stabs one and their guts

874
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,320
fly out. Uh. The killer gets her face literally shot off.

875
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,840
You see her face fall off, and it didn't look

876
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,519
good either. You have this one with the beer the.

877
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 2: Firewas Have they implemented that kind of idea like take

878
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:37,639
shoot him in the head like in the other previous iterations. Yeah,

879
00:38:37,679 --> 00:38:41,000
they really fucking quadrupled down on this with the shooter

880
00:38:41,119 --> 00:38:41,440
in the head.

881
00:38:41,519 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: It's it's always been big like, but especially in three,

882
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,760
it really started to be like a reoccurring joke. So

883
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,679
it's always to shoot him in the head thing, and

884
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,039
that's how it ends. As the killer this Jessica Bowden.

885
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:53,480
She gets both Sydney and her daughter Tatum have a

886
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,440
gun and they're just popping off the shooter her face off.

887
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,039
I was not a fan of that. I don't get

888
00:38:58,039 --> 00:38:59,880
me wrong. I love Saw. I just don't need the

889
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:02,719
kind of very gross kills in this one. There wasn't

890
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,960
no oh but then even stuff like the other friend,

891
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,039
she just dies by like the ghost face throws her

892
00:39:09,039 --> 00:39:12,079
off a bar and she lands on a bottle and

893
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:14,599
it like slices her throat and it's like did they not?

894
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:17,119
That's where the rushing how do we kill her all?

895
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:21,119
She's gonna fall in a bottle? It's like did they

896
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,159
Not much ti either, But we'll get to it that

897
00:39:23,679 --> 00:39:26,480
So the killer reveal is the neighbor with the son

898
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:28,039
that like I said, they killed the son. Okay, So

899
00:39:28,119 --> 00:39:30,000
it is three where there's this guy Carl, He's from

900
00:39:30,039 --> 00:39:32,800
a looney bin. He's just kind of a point in

901
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:37,199
one direction. The real people are the neighbor, the crazy

902
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,079
kid who's not really crazy, his mom played by on

903
00:39:40,159 --> 00:39:45,239
a camp. Her whole story is fuck, I hate this too,

904
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,159
and also her her like reason is almost like a

905
00:39:48,199 --> 00:39:51,360
shot Scream six, but it's like she read her she

906
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:55,559
was an abused victim from her husband. She read her book,

907
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:57,960
I can't remember what it is like out of Shadows

908
00:39:58,039 --> 00:40:01,239
or whatever that she wrote and Scream five. So Sidney

909
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,280
wrote that book and she felt inspired. But then Sidney

910
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,639
like went away, and I guess they're just implying because

911
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:08,840
she wasn't Scream six. She was not helping by catch

912
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,519
the ghost face killers. So she just like I wanted

913
00:40:12,559 --> 00:40:15,480
to ruin Sydney's life and like, don't get me wrong.

914
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,519
Speaker 2: I know because because she inspired, Sidney inspired her to

915
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:21,079
kill her husband right and free from that cycle. And

916
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:25,280
so well, because Sidney disappeared and says like she's like, oh,

917
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,920
where's my inspiration, Like you're not in the spotlight anymore,

918
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,119
like I needed you and now so she's going to

919
00:40:30,159 --> 00:40:34,400
create this new traumatized Sidney two point zero versions that

920
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,000
I don't know. She was just fucked in the head,

921
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:37,840
hens she why she was?

922
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think that's the tough thing too, where

923
00:40:41,119 --> 00:40:44,800
it's just because they're kind of just like she's fucking

924
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,840
but they're they're treating her like she's like a big

925
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,639
fan girl, right because when she's like, you weren't even

926
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:51,039
they are New York. That's the problem where I said,

927
00:40:51,039 --> 00:40:53,320
we've been this before. That's what we did with Scream

928
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:56,679
like five, what like even Scream two is Mickey is

929
00:40:56,679 --> 00:40:59,639
a big fan Scream five the reveal is Jack Waiting

930
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,440
and Mikey because there's such fans and Stabbed films. They

931
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,679
met on a form and then they became sick together

932
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:07,760
and then they they created this idea like let's remake

933
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,440
stab right, like let's do it again. So the problem

934
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,920
is like it's a different version of an obsessed fan

935
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,800
or sick a fan, but it's still that again, right,

936
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,760
And it's just that's the thing where it's like that

937
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,039
Mike asked me, like what would I do? That's why

938
00:41:20,079 --> 00:41:22,119
I was always fine with them getting away was from

939
00:41:22,159 --> 00:41:25,880
Sydney because like, what else can you do with Sidney Prescott.

940
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,760
We've now, we've done this beforeward it is like the

941
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,320
sick fans, It's like okay, Like and that's the thing

942
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,440
where I didn't like the reveal of seven. I thought

943
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,880
it was over the top how we got there, and

944
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,920
I think the acting wasn't good. But I was like

945
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,440
okay even then though, no, because it's like the family's

946
00:41:38,519 --> 00:41:40,920
going to take out the person that killed their son.

947
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,000
Guess what. That's what has screamed two is that's Billy

948
00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:47,440
Lewis's mother's It's like, that's the thing where they I

949
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,440
think they're afraid to take big leaps. And then the

950
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,000
second killer forgot to mention because you know what didn't matter.

951
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,079
He was fucking killed like bat Taylor, no fanfare whatsoever.

952
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:58,920
We meet this guy once he works at the looney bin.

953
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:02,519
He gives some false bread crumbs about stuby and alive,

954
00:42:02,559 --> 00:42:03,920
like yeah, there's some guy that got hit in his

955
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,639
head and he bah blah blah blah. He looked like

956
00:42:06,639 --> 00:42:09,400
this guy, that's him, that's John Doe. All this shit right,

957
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,920
he's just like I guess he was, he just a

958
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,440
like I know he was the AI guy. But was

959
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,519
he just a fan? Like they met right, he likes

960
00:42:18,519 --> 00:42:21,119
the book too, So Anna Camp goes into the same

961
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,599
side and they bond over this book and they bond

962
00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:29,440
that they got to get Sydney. Yeah. I just didn't

963
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,719
like so for me, I understood the motivations of Scream six,

964
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,000
but I thought we've been there before. I did like

965
00:42:34,039 --> 00:42:36,400
the acting, and the acting was fine here. I just

966
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,840
thought this I did not care about this motivation at all.

967
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,400
I thought this was probably the worst one we've got

968
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,480
yet for why we're doing. It's like, well, Sydney decided

969
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,079
to go out there, like I need that, Sydney.

970
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:48,159
Speaker 2: It's like, all right, you know what the motivation is

971
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:50,360
gonna be for Scream eight, and it's gonna be. Someone

972
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,000
was watching the interview between Gaiale Weathers and Sydney Prescott

973
00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:57,599
and like the interview thirty years in the making, was like,

974
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:01,599
oh you got kids. No no, because he was like,

975
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:02,920
I don't want to talk about this lab on air

976
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,239
is dangerous. I mentioned that's what they're gonna go with it.

977
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,559
Some crazy fanatic watched it on TV. I'm just like,

978
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:09,559
I'm gonna follow suit.

979
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:12,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, and at least they did. I was

980
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,880
very bummed that they didn't rop bring they didn't bring

981
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,880
out Patta Dempsey. They got another cop named Mark, and

982
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,840
at least they make Cannon because in the first or

983
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,960
in screen five, they showed her a twins, so everyone

984
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:27,000
was saying, like, why is her where the twins go?

985
00:43:27,039 --> 00:43:27,199
Speaker 2: When?

986
00:43:27,199 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: Why's her daughter so much older? So I guess they're

987
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:32,480
just saying in Scream six or five, they just didn't

988
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,559
mention that she had I had three kids actually, so

989
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:37,320
that's where Tatum was. She was still born. So they

990
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,000
didn't wreck on the twins away. The twins are just

991
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:43,760
on vacation, and I just I love they're just like, oh,

992
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:46,039
what's going on with the kids? Like, oh, well, whatever

993
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:48,280
city they're in, they're like, we got every officer and

994
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,119
they got every officer watching that house. And it's just like,

995
00:43:51,559 --> 00:43:53,880
so again, why was no officer watching here? But yeah,

996
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:56,280
how'd you feel that these uh, these two killers here.

997
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 2: That was one of the things I saying about earlier,

998
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,639
which when the one the one killer, Okay, you could

999
00:44:04,639 --> 00:44:07,280
tell like, yeah, burly guy, the way he's moving. But

1000
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,800
then when the daughter, Sidney's daughter was in the streets,

1001
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,159
and you see that one ghost Face moving, you could

1002
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:16,639
immediately tell it was the physique of a woman.

1003
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: Well that that doesn't always matter though, because even watched

1004
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,960
him out with Scream four.

1005
00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 2: Uh the other ones, the Scream four with Emma Roberts. Yeah,

1006
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,079
I think they mask that quite Well, no they don't.

1007
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,880
They don't know because I didn't see that coming at all.

1008
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: Well no, I'm telling you why because the final like, no,

1009
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,639
when you're just about purely the body size and everything,

1010
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,840
when you when the reveal happens, that's Emma Roberts. It's

1011
00:44:41,039 --> 00:44:44,159
let's say, Scream ghost Face stabs Sidney right and she

1012
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,920
falls down and it's like a six foot dude. But

1013
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,000
then when they cut and she takes the mask off,

1014
00:44:49,039 --> 00:44:51,599
like Ghosts has like shrunk like in between scenes, like

1015
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,920
it shrinks. It's like when Michael Keane takes off his

1016
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,880
mask and returns and his paint's gone, Like that's what happens.

1017
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,000
So like it's it doesn't matter who's under that car

1018
00:45:00,519 --> 00:45:03,159
because it's just whoever the stunt guy is. So like

1019
00:45:03,199 --> 00:45:04,679
I'm not saying they didn't make it line up here,

1020
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,639
but in the past it has happened where it's like

1021
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,199
the sizes don't don't mix up at all with who

1022
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:11,599
the actual killer is, you know.

1023
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: That's fair. That's what just threw me off though, because

1024
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,000
when that going ghostface was walking into town, it was

1025
00:45:16,039 --> 00:45:18,559
the it was the girl in the in the suit.

1026
00:45:18,599 --> 00:45:23,239
I was like, okay, that's who who could that be? Yeah,

1027
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,039
so I was trying to can figure that and for

1028
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:26,880
a second I thought like, oh, maybe it's gil Weather,

1029
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,719
it's under the costume or something like that. But yeah, no,

1030
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,719
I think there was not enough sustenance there. I like

1031
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,159
the whole basic idea of just to cnit craze fanatic

1032
00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:40,639
and a fan just obsessed with City Prescott and they

1033
00:45:40,679 --> 00:45:42,639
disappear from the spotlight so they couldn't kind of lean

1034
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:50,199
on them anymore as inspiration. But yeah, I didn't. I

1035
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,639
did not see it coming of it being the neighbor.

1036
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,239
Although I can't remember the name of the actress that

1037
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,679
played in A Camp and a Camp Yeah, a pitch perfect.

1038
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,880
I thought she when she went wild, I really enjoyed it.

1039
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:03,920
I thought that was awesome because she was being super

1040
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:09,079
zany and just like just running with that role quite well.

1041
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:13,280
So I did like that. But yeah, she got absolutely

1042
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,719
fucked up, which was which was something else even two.

1043
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 1: It was so weird of like, okay, so they recreate

1044
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,719
Scream one where they have Tatum tied the chair and

1045
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:24,519
they're gonna kill her and they're doing their whole speech

1046
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:27,800
ye da da da. Of course somehow these people. Mark

1047
00:46:28,159 --> 00:46:32,159
survived these stabs, which again I don't I like Joe McHale.

1048
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:33,880
I don't think this role was right for him. I

1049
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,320
don't think and that's not just me being salty that

1050
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,239
they recast Patrick Dempsey pretty much. I just think that

1051
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,239
he didn't bring in the the like I just never

1052
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,559
believed as the police chief. I'm just gonna be honest.

1053
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:46,880
I never was a police chief.

1054
00:46:47,039 --> 00:46:50,039
Speaker 2: No, but I thought his chemistry with Neive Campbell was

1055
00:46:50,039 --> 00:46:51,960
fucking awesome when they were in that bed together. I

1056
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:54,599
was like, when they were in that bed together, I

1057
00:46:54,639 --> 00:46:56,480
was like, oh, I'm fucking feeling it right now.

1058
00:46:57,079 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: I think the kiddo shoe was fine. I know it

1059
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,760
was no Patrick Dempson her, but I thought was fine.

1060
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,079
But yeah, they so go ghost face kill well, stabs

1061
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,880
him a bunch. He survives, so they pull him out

1062
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,199
and of course he has his knife and he's cutting

1063
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,199
Tatum's like a tape off her leg. So they can fight.

1064
00:47:13,599 --> 00:47:15,639
So I'm just saying, there's a dumb point where like, okay,

1065
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:18,280
they the second guy, the warden guy or whatever, the

1066
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,800
guy works at the looney bin. Uh Sydney just gets

1067
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,920
a gun shoots him, so he's dead right away quickly.

1068
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,679
And then and I can't runs into their I guess

1069
00:47:25,679 --> 00:47:29,119
doing some renovations on the garage, so there's plastic everywhere.

1070
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,480
So she runs in there to like hide or something.

1071
00:47:31,519 --> 00:47:33,320
I don't know. And then Sidney goes in there and

1072
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:35,760
the ghost face costumes just like hanging on the wall.

1073
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,679
Why would she take that off? Like why would you

1074
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:40,239
have the time to, like, like, you're running for your

1075
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,480
life killed him and you're like, you're gonna hang it there?

1076
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: You see where she hid?

1077
00:47:44,599 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: Did you catch that? I don't remember now.

1078
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: So when Sidney goes in there to turn the music

1079
00:47:50,519 --> 00:47:55,840
off and you can see behind her through the through

1080
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,199
the fucking plastic drapes, the ghost face Killer drops down

1081
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,079
from the fucking rafters, and I was like, what the

1082
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,840
fuck she was up in the ceiling.

1083
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: She just threw her costume out there apparently.

1084
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:07,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1085
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So no, I was. I wasn't a big fan

1086
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,119
of all this stuff, and I also wasn't a fan.

1087
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,280
We talked about a few things, but like why Gale

1088
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,519
didn't follow her like you in the same movie have

1089
00:48:16,679 --> 00:48:19,920
like I can't. They established Sidney can't trust anybody, and

1090
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,800
then the ends and he's like, well, I can trust you, Gail.

1091
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,280
Why the fucking Gil go out her? She know, like

1092
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:28,559
they knew exactly, Like Sidney's like, they're going tell the police,

1093
00:48:28,559 --> 00:48:31,280
they're going there. Gaile just sat at the news station.

1094
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,480
He's like, well, I hope Sidney's okay, Like it was.

1095
00:48:34,599 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 2: Why didn't Sidney just really yeah, that whole scene where

1096
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,920
Sidney gets to the car and it won't open them

1097
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,880
and then runs off. It's like, well, yeah, because Gil

1098
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,599
have keys and you.

1099
00:48:42,679 --> 00:48:45,119
Speaker 1: Call this like why don't you ask you this? There's

1100
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:47,039
like a five minute scene or not five minutes. There's

1101
00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:49,239
like a five to ten seconds s Sidney trying to

1102
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:50,960
open this door that she's in the keys to. It's

1103
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:52,679
like what. And there's a moment this where it fell

1104
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,440
like Scared a movie where Tatum is running through the streets.

1105
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,360
They've established that's curfew, no one's in these streets and

1106
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,920
all these businesses are closed, and she just like, somebody

1107
00:49:02,159 --> 00:49:04,559
help me. I'm gonna get killed. Like she's just doing

1108
00:49:04,639 --> 00:49:06,840
the like Anna faris in the middle of the road

1109
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,400
like somebody, I like, no one's here, there's no one,

1110
00:49:09,639 --> 00:49:12,239
like what's going on, Like what's happening in this moment.

1111
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,760
I don't blame the actress at all. I don't and

1112
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,719
it's not her, just the writing of just like just

1113
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,599
have a run. There's so many times where too, like

1114
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,039
she runs a little bit and she hides behind like

1115
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:23,119
that wood board. It's just like they can see you,

1116
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:24,639
you know, Like it's like I don't know.

1117
00:49:24,559 --> 00:49:27,199
Speaker 2: She's got her cell phone on her person and it

1118
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:31,000
doesn't have a fun call until she's locked herself in

1119
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:32,400
her mom's coffee shop.

1120
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:35,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, or why not call nine one one exactly. Hey,

1121
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:37,639
I'm the police chief's daughter. And it's not like the

1122
00:49:37,679 --> 00:49:40,280
first time. Right, if it's the first time, you go, okay,

1123
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,440
maybe it's a praying blatlah. It's like no, no, no, like

1124
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:45,480
I'm you know whatever, she's daughter, and I'm gonna get

1125
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,039
fucking killed right now. You know my friends have just

1126
00:49:47,039 --> 00:49:49,840
got killed. Yeah, they're gonna try and kill me too,

1127
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,320
And okay, sure, especially like it seems like in this

1128
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,039
town they really respect the police chief. So it's not

1129
00:49:55,119 --> 00:49:57,039
like I don't know, it's like, okay, get someone over

1130
00:49:57,039 --> 00:50:00,559
there quick, like get it's very very strange. So have

1131
00:50:00,639 --> 00:50:02,519
you watched eighteen eighty three Taylor?

1132
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: Uh no, not yet.

1133
00:50:05,519 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: Okay, she's in there. She plays Elsa Dudden. There you

1134
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,760
goes to the daughters. Yeah, yeah, the daughter, and she's in.

1135
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:14,960
She does in one episode of Yells, and she does

1136
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,480
the boys. She's in nineteen twenty three as well as

1137
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:18,440
Elsa Dutch.

1138
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,599
Speaker 2: I know the voice in nineteen twenty three?

1139
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, how could she be in nineteen twenty I guess forty? Wait?

1140
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,400
How could she be in both? Nineteen twenty three?

1141
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,559
Speaker 2: She narrates, She narrates. It's like her the family legacy

1142
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,719
and stuff like that. But I know the actress that

1143
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:36,159
was the first victim at the beginning. She is from

1144
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:40,719
the landman. Uh so they're pulling all the paramount actresses

1145
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:41,840
in into here.

1146
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,880
Speaker 1: Oh what a thunk? Yeah? Yeah. And then that's I

1147
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,760
was just gonna say too, where we're talking about the

1148
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,320
moving Russian writing, I just felt like the dynamic between

1149
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,239
the daughter and the mother, it just felt very surface

1150
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,000
level and it just didn't feel earned. It also to

1151
00:50:58,039 --> 00:51:01,360
me just didn't track with any like Scream three and

1152
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,440
I get she has kids now. With Scream three, Sitney

1153
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,159
like leaves the door open where now they do drop

1154
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:07,639
one line where it's like, well, I have you now,

1155
00:51:07,679 --> 00:51:10,239
But it just it feels like Sidney kind of regressed

1156
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,679
and they want her, and I guess it's the point

1157
00:51:11,679 --> 00:51:13,719
of the killer, right, So maybe it's not as a

1158
00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:16,599
hard critique, but it just felt like any every moment

1159
00:51:16,599 --> 00:51:19,000
it was like, oh, what are you doing today? Well,

1160
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,519
why do you care? Moment, what do you It's just

1161
00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:24,079
I just feel like we needed more time with them

1162
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:26,519
as mother and daughter, even though they just didn't get along.

1163
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:30,199
But like it's it's tough for me to compare because

1164
00:51:30,199 --> 00:51:33,199
I need the exact dialogue. There's just many dialogue scenes

1165
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,199
that just weren't working for me and just felt very

1166
00:51:36,199 --> 00:51:38,840
forced if we need to have a contentious relationship. And

1167
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:41,119
so I think acting once was fine, but I just

1168
00:51:41,159 --> 00:51:45,119
thought the drama they're having felt very forced to me.

1169
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:48,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean there were some moments that I

1170
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:50,920
was enjoying, but I can see that where some of

1171
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:56,199
the elements were forced. But no, I like, I think

1172
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,519
that Campbell did a really good job at I mean,

1173
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:01,800
she owns role. This is her role, so of course

1174
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,079
she's going to do a good job with it. But

1175
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:05,000
I think she delivered on being very emotional and having

1176
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:08,559
those moments with the daughter where daughter was kind of

1177
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:11,480
prying into the history and Campbell was just kind of

1178
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,639
like deflecting it and kind of changing the topic. And

1179
00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:17,400
I think there were some good emotional moments together that

1180
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:22,679
I really liked. I'm surprised they didn't try going into

1181
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:24,400
that panic room a little sooner though.

1182
00:52:27,039 --> 00:52:30,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I don't like, I get I don't

1183
00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:33,320
know why they she let her daughter leave that panic room,

1184
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,960
because it's just like, I don't know she she.

1185
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,559
Speaker 2: The husband, right, the dad mark.

1186
00:52:39,519 --> 00:52:41,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but why did she let her daughter convince her

1187
00:52:41,679 --> 00:52:44,000
to let her followers? I know you're staying here. There's

1188
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,079
a fucking panic room. The doors are like bank vault

1189
00:52:47,159 --> 00:52:49,320
steel going on here. You know you stay in here.

1190
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah.

1191
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: Reo says that I just watched the movie movie suck

1192
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:58,280
Kills were good, but the ending suck balls. I don't

1193
00:52:58,280 --> 00:52:59,599
know if I can say so balls, But yeah, I

1194
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,800
wasn't a fan of it. It's it's hard, Like I

1195
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,719
think it's tough because the screen. I think that some

1196
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,639
of the hardest things are the opening and the ending.

1197
00:53:08,639 --> 00:53:10,440
I think the opening went on too long for me.

1198
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:12,400
I liked some aspects of it, but I think they

1199
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,960
took too long with that. I think the ending is

1200
00:53:15,039 --> 00:53:17,519
tough because I think I did not like last one

1201
00:53:17,559 --> 00:53:19,960
where Scream five to me was a fantastic ending like

1202
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,199
no notes, I think they really delivered there. I think

1203
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,119
Scream three, like I said, gets a little convolute, so

1204
00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:27,119
I'm mixed on that. Scream two is also a little

1205
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,679
a little messy. But yeah, no, I don't get me

1206
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,440
wrong though, if you say that, I could say, oh,

1207
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,079
I see that. I'm not gonna fight you on it. Like,

1208
00:53:34,679 --> 00:53:38,079
there's definitely some things that sucked some balls there, so

1209
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,159
I'm trying to think, uh yeah. And then they brought

1210
00:53:41,159 --> 00:53:43,800
the Meeks twins back, who were from the five and six.

1211
00:53:44,199 --> 00:53:46,039
I still like those actors and I liked them in

1212
00:53:46,039 --> 00:53:49,360
their role. They got taken out like the you like

1213
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,239
them this? Okay?

1214
00:53:50,639 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 2: No, I felt like they were just way too flamboyant

1215
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:58,280
and just I appreciated their contribution to figuring things out,

1216
00:53:58,320 --> 00:53:59,719
but I didn't like they were just thrown in there

1217
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,440
and just being kind of like that is it gonna

1218
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,559
sound mean but idiotically wrong with their gauges and stuff

1219
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:08,760
like that on the two people they suspected and just

1220
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:12,039
being very like too too much about it.

1221
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: And then they did make that joke though right about her, like, well,

1222
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,679
you're wrong last two times. I guess he's so. I

1223
00:54:17,679 --> 00:54:20,199
feel like if they come back next movie, they got

1224
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:21,400
to get it right, you know.

1225
00:54:21,559 --> 00:54:24,199
Speaker 2: I hope so, but yeah, they just dispatched quick.

1226
00:54:24,599 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 1: They were still right though when they said it's gonna

1227
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,119
be someone you know, and they knew the neighbor right,

1228
00:54:28,199 --> 00:54:31,599
like Anna Camp, so like it's still someone they knew technically, right,

1229
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:35,000
So yeah, oh, I thought there's another Oh, I was

1230
00:54:35,039 --> 00:54:37,480
gonna say. Though they got taken out very easily. She

1231
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:39,440
just got like a slice on the stomach. She was

1232
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,840
back later on. And then as one of my least

1233
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,880
favorite things, do you remember screen six, when this guy

1234
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,360
was stabbed like fifteen million times by two ghosts and

1235
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,519
survived this movie, gets stabbed in the shoulder. He's done.

1236
00:54:49,639 --> 00:54:51,840
He's done. He's not dead, but he's just done for

1237
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,119
the movie. It's like, what, like, I don't know, I know,

1238
00:54:55,159 --> 00:54:58,440
you're working actor. You gotta get out there. I still think,

1239
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,960
in my opinion, these people should have they should have

1240
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,000
fallen Jenner tag. I'm like, you know what, we're not

1241
00:55:03,079 --> 00:55:05,239
gonna come back either, and they should I think they

1242
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:06,800
could have got some crap being like, yeah, you fucked

1243
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,320
over our friend, we're not gonna come back, and uh,

1244
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:11,559
you know. But Rao says it felt rushed as well.

1245
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:13,519
I feel like that's uh, you know. And I've said

1246
00:55:13,519 --> 00:55:15,480
that other people in comments, So I feel like that's

1247
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,840
a general feeling from everybody that does feel a little rush.

1248
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,320
It feels like and I don't get me wrong, I

1249
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,119
don't think there's a longer version of this movie. I

1250
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:24,159
think this is the movie. I'm sure there's some deleted scenes,

1251
00:55:24,159 --> 00:55:25,360
but I don't think it's like, oh they cut this

1252
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,400
this this. It definitely feels rushed. I feel like you

1253
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:33,480
don't get much time to breathe. I don't know went

1254
00:55:33,599 --> 00:55:36,519
once Sidney gets the call, they do like a little

1255
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:39,079
breathing there, but like from the first kill and then on.

1256
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,599
But I feel like, again, that's not written the best,

1257
00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:44,920
so it's not great area breathing. And again, yeah, no

1258
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,280
acting problems like other than for me, Joel Mchill didn't

1259
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,079
really bring it, but like I like the daughter, like

1260
00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:51,119
Tayo said, I think Nev Campbell does a great job

1261
00:55:51,159 --> 00:55:53,079
as always. So I had no And even some of

1262
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:55,599
the newer people, like the boyfriends are like, they're all fine,

1263
00:55:55,639 --> 00:55:58,159
Like I don't think anyone stood has been bad. But uh, yeah,

1264
00:55:58,199 --> 00:56:02,360
I just laugh at that Meeks brother. Yeah, twenty fucking

1265
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,440
knife shots like run and this one just nah, she

1266
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,079
one shoulder and I one should shoulder too. Come on,

1267
00:56:10,199 --> 00:56:12,960
he's done, no final act or nothing, He's just gone.

1268
00:56:13,039 --> 00:56:16,960
So I'm trying to think you have anything else.

1269
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 2: To shop out, Well there was, I don't. I don't

1270
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:20,639
think you mentioned it yet. But when she goes in

1271
00:56:20,679 --> 00:56:25,480
the coffee shop and she's she's already ghost face and

1272
00:56:25,519 --> 00:56:27,760
she's running away from ghost Face, and so she's at

1273
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:30,760
the doorway, she throws a chair and knocks ghost face back.

1274
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,400
Then that ghost face stands up, and then she turns

1275
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,719
to run, but in the outside of the shop is

1276
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,079
the other ghost face.

1277
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,039
Speaker 1: Either way around.

1278
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:40,360
Speaker 3: The ghost face gets up after Yeah, when she goes,

1279
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:42,199
ghost faces at there, and so you get like a

1280
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:43,880
slow most scene of like the ghost face in the

1281
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,559
shop walking towards her, and then the slow most scene

1282
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:48,639
of the ghost Face outside started to like charge like

1283
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,599
fast walk, and I'm like, the way it was filmed,

1284
00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:53,280
I thought, holy fuck, they're gonna.

1285
00:56:53,039 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 2: Go toe to toe. The ghost faces are gonna fight

1286
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,199
each other because their rival ghost Faces, and I was

1287
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,239
I was ready for it.

1288
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought it was having new too, because to

1289
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,639
the movie's credit, I was kind of like, Okay, all

1290
00:57:03,679 --> 00:57:06,639
the characters other than neighbor, but her close friends, they

1291
00:57:06,639 --> 00:57:08,960
all got killed off in the sequence, right, like her friend,

1292
00:57:09,039 --> 00:57:11,960
the boyfriend, the guy from gen V. So I'm like, Okay,

1293
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,599
who's it gonna be. And I thought, Oh, it's gonna

1294
00:57:14,639 --> 00:57:17,000
be maybe like some sort of that's why we got Carls,

1295
00:57:17,039 --> 00:57:19,079
like some sort of cult or something like that. So

1296
00:57:19,159 --> 00:57:21,920
it's like they want to claim the kill for themselves, right,

1297
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:24,840
and I like almost like the uh god, what movie

1298
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:26,960
like ready or not like something like that. None of

1299
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,679
the actual like satanic like people exploding, but just like

1300
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:31,920
I thought, oh, it's gonna be a bunch of followers

1301
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:34,880
and they're like competing to see who can kill like

1302
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,719
Sidney Prescott, who could do this, right, But no, it's

1303
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,760
just that they did that. I thought you were gonna

1304
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,679
bring up where she hits the coffee shop. Nev you've

1305
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:44,480
seen the trailer. She tells her, Hey, there's a gun

1306
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,280
in the office. She closed the door. She puts like

1307
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:49,480
a bookshelf and a desk against the door. Do this

1308
00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:52,239
whole sequence, which I think it's fun. She's like, oh,

1309
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,039
you got you know, move left, move right, Okay, shoot

1310
00:57:54,079 --> 00:57:56,880
him now, shooting now. She shoots him. She shoots ghost

1311
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,840
face and he's down the ground. And then she proceeds

1312
00:58:00,159 --> 00:58:02,920
like open up the doors and remove all the barricades.

1313
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,199
I know that. Sidney said, like shoot him in the head.

1314
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,360
Why if that was my kid, I'd be like, hey,

1315
00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:09,760
just if he gets up, shoot him in the head.

1316
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 2: You know, not even if he gets up, you shoot

1317
00:58:12,039 --> 00:58:13,440
him in the head. You open that door a little

1318
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,920
bit and from your little him in the head, like

1319
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,920
don't true, don't Because she's just going like, oh, I

1320
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:19,360
killed him.

1321
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: I did it.

1322
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,119
Speaker 2: I got him. And then Sidney's like, I know you did,

1323
00:58:22,119 --> 00:58:24,000
but you got to shoot him in the headling.

1324
00:58:24,039 --> 00:58:25,599
Speaker 1: But but even then I would say, just stay in

1325
00:58:25,679 --> 00:58:27,400
that room. I'm on my way. We're gonna send And

1326
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,639
again they told the they never showed up too. They

1327
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:33,119
told the news guy to call the police, and he did.

1328
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,280
He called the police, so because he's like, wan to

1329
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,519
buy my interview, so police should be arriving soon, so

1330
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:40,760
just stay in that room and it's gonna be okay.

1331
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,440
But no, she gets kidnapped, and uh, you know that's

1332
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,320
where again I feel like they were definitely trying to

1333
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:50,760
make Sidney the main character because uh, I could be wrong,

1334
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,280
but I don't think Sidney Prescott ever got kidnapped. She's

1335
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:54,800
been hell a gunpoint nfe point, but I don't think

1336
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,480
she's ever been tied to a chair and whatnot. So

1337
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,960
they definitely still established like, hey, like the daughters still

1338
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:01,960
number two. She's not on equal footing, you know, and

1339
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,840
like that the end man when they shoot her and

1340
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,199
she's like okay, and she's like I'm Sidney Prescott's fucking daughter.

1341
00:59:08,239 --> 00:59:11,360
It's like all right, Like your dad's like half dying

1342
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,360
over there. You guys gonna go take care of him. Like, hey,

1343
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,679
I just some of the dialogue wasn't wasn't working for me.

1344
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:21,559
Speaker 2: So the other character and again Red Herring, the drama

1345
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:27,039
teacher who they introduced and had some like comments towards

1346
00:59:27,079 --> 00:59:30,559
Sidney Prescott's daughter, and then it was outside the lines

1347
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:32,920
like the police tape looking at shit, and it was

1348
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,480
like the first person Sidney Prescott looked in at me

1349
00:59:35,639 --> 00:59:37,760
and was like sizing him up. And then that's the

1350
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,079
last we see of them. But they introduced him and

1351
00:59:40,119 --> 00:59:42,440
they set it up like Okay, maybe there's something with him. Yeah.

1352
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,480
I never came back. It was just like a very

1353
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:45,199
loose thread.

1354
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: I was glad because I actually really enjoy that actor.

1355
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:50,440
He's a great comedic actor, so it's like I don't

1356
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,320
want him in there. Two very awkward scenes is when

1357
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,119
he goes up to she's like in a play and

1358
00:59:56,159 --> 00:59:58,320
she trips and then the teacher pulls her side. He's

1359
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,639
that teacher. He's like, you know what you don't have

1360
01:00:00,679 --> 01:00:02,440
Sidney Prescott. I thin they have little fight in here.

1361
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,880
I was like what what that was the fan film

1362
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:07,159
stuff where it's like a fan wrote this, like it's

1363
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:09,159
like you don't have that grit your mother has. It's

1364
01:00:09,199 --> 01:00:11,320
like what, like who would honestly say it? Like a teacher?

1365
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,679
That's employee who say that? And then it's so weird,

1366
01:00:13,719 --> 01:00:15,239
like I don't know if you got this five taste,

1367
01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:17,800
so maybe I'm wrong, But the teacher cell you don't

1368
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:19,760
have confidence and then she gets in the back with

1369
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,639
her boyfriend and she's rambling on. But like, oh I

1370
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:25,000
I I like what I like? What are some features?

1371
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,880
Why don't I'm not just not confident because X Y

1372
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:29,920
and Z, I feel like we didn't see the character

1373
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,280
much made. It's been like ten minutes, but I feel

1374
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,559
like what we saw the character, she was very confident.

1375
01:00:34,599 --> 01:00:36,440
She was arguing with her mother in a very confident way.

1376
01:00:36,679 --> 01:00:38,440
So the fact they're trying to get the storyline of

1377
01:00:38,559 --> 01:00:42,079
this character's not confident. I've not seen that whatsoever. She's

1378
01:00:42,119 --> 01:00:44,360
not like a quiet, nervous shy. She's like getting up

1379
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:46,559
in her mom's face. She get she's saying talking back

1380
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:48,519
to the teacher. She's in her friend, she's trying to

1381
01:00:48,519 --> 01:00:50,280
go to a party later. It's not like I don't

1382
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:51,880
know if I want to go, Like the only reason

1383
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,199
she don't want to go to the party she doesn't

1384
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:55,239
know if her mom won't let her. Make that character

1385
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,800
be like I don't know if I really want to go,

1386
01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,199
Like I don't. Parties aren't my thing, like they've made

1387
01:00:59,239 --> 01:01:01,199
her I won't. It's like uber confident, but not in

1388
01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:03,599
a way where she's like, am I confident? I get it,

1389
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,519
they're young, they'd question it, but just some questionable stuff

1390
01:01:06,519 --> 01:01:08,400
happening in that place scene there.

1391
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,039
Speaker 2: So yeah, I agree.

1392
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:13,679
Speaker 1: I think that's all I have. I know someone's gonna

1393
01:01:13,719 --> 01:01:16,119
probably pup my mind. I'll forget about it. I'll remember,

1394
01:01:16,199 --> 01:01:18,679
but like, I don't have anything immedia right now. Is

1395
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there something you want to shout out?

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Speaker 2: I liked how prepared Sidney Prescott was in this. I

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01:01:26,119 --> 01:01:29,679
really really enjoyed that, where like she she gets the

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whole police force on it at the school and then

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she walks into the auditorium where her daughter would be,

1400
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and then she just has that gun going. It's just

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firing down. I like that she's got the lost safe

1402
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right away in her house, and I like that she's

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got the other guns located, the cameras, all this stuff.

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I like how prepped and tactical she is. It reminds

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01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:51,480
me of Lorie Strode Halloween twenty eighteen, where she's got

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01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:53,880
her house the decked up, ready to trap Michael and

1407
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all that stuff. So I can really I get on

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01:01:57,039 --> 01:01:59,000
board with that. I thought that was that was well done.

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What was the other thing I wanted to shout out to?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: I can't remember probably not important. Probably not important.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So my final thoughts are I enjoyed some aspects

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of this, but as a whole movie probably uh yeah, this,

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this one's like a tough score. I feel like I'm

1415
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just gonna I really don't know, because again I've established

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like a five as a pass for me, like even

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01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:33,440
saying six, I really have to go back because I

1418
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,400
think now with Scream six and he's seen it, like

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01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,800
given a three point five, I have to think there

1420
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was maybe some good shots or some killers, and that

1421
01:02:39,719 --> 01:02:43,079
feels higher than I thought, and I felt like I

1422
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:46,559
had failed that movie, but I guess not, so I

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01:02:46,599 --> 01:02:50,400
will just give this a six for now. I'm gonna

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have to go back and change the other score at

1425
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least put down there. But I'm gonna give this. Yeah,

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I'll give this like a it would be like a

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three out of five. Yeah, no, you know what, because

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of some reputation, I'm gonna go a five point file.

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01:03:04,679 --> 01:03:06,559
I'll drop a little a five point five. So I'm

1430
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I'm failing it. It's right in the middle there because

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I feel like, yeah, I don't know. I'll have to

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think about that, but I just in this movie a

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little not compared to anything else I'm feeling about it.

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I still feel good enough to pass it, but not

1435
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enough to give it like a high mark. So yeah,

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i'd be like a five point five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where I am, all right. When I think

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back to the previous film, Scream six, and I think

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about how they really just dived into the legacy stuff

1440
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with all the stuff from the police evidence files and

1441
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all the ghost Face Killer costumes and all the iterations

1442
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and just all that information, I really like that. I

1443
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can't remember what my rating was, but I don't know.

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This one just feels very safe back to its roots,

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and um, yeah, like if I really had to think

1446
01:03:57,320 --> 01:03:59,239
about what I would give it, i'd feel like I'm

1447
01:04:00,119 --> 01:04:06,159
more positive than most, so i'd probably be inclined to

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go seven, seven, and ten. I think, yeah, because I

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think the rewatchability is there and I definitely want to

1450
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,840
watch it again because I had a lot of fun

1451
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:18,639
with it. But it's not perfect. I like you highlighted

1452
01:04:18,639 --> 01:04:21,079
that one kill on the bar. We didn't need that.

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01:04:21,079 --> 01:04:23,480
That was that was way too flamboyant and excessive, and

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there's a couple other things that I just it's it's weak,

1455
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it's not it's not for me. But I like the

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incorporation of AI. I like how intense they made these

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ghost faces to be. And I think a lot of

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the action sequences were good, and and a lot of

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just really cool moments, like when Carl that ghost face,

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01:04:44,159 --> 01:04:47,159
it's slowly like you see the top of the attic

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panel and the ceiling opening up and then he just

1462
01:04:49,719 --> 01:04:53,719
drops down just wear his mask is like fading away

1463
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in the shadows behind people as they're moving around. Just

1464
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some really cool cinematic shots I can really really appreciate.

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So I, as I said earlier, I recommend it. I

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01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,320
think it was, at least for me, a good time

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and something I will rewatch.

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Speaker 1: There you go. Well, that is our thoughts on screen seven.

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Let us know what's in the discord, YouTube, Patreon, social media, whatever. Uh,

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let's know you thought, let's know if we miss anything,

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or let us know if there's something you disagree with.

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We're always down to have some conversation, a nice friendly

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01:05:24,639 --> 01:05:27,559
conversation about it. But yeah, that is our view for

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01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,119
screen seven. When do you hear from us next? It

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will not be boring.

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Speaker 2: Bye.