WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.919 For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female 2 00:00:02.960 --> 00:00:06.599 home builder with a passion for design, a mastery of detail, 3 00:00:06.679 --> 00:00:08.000 and a commitment to her crack. 4 00:00:08.080 --> 00:00:10.560 With daughter Samantha Stumpo by her side, I. 5 00:00:10.480 --> 00:00:12.080 Don't need my whole family on a date with me. 6 00:00:12.199 --> 00:00:12.919 That's a good note. 7 00:00:12.960 --> 00:00:14.279 It's goddamn weird. See. 8 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:18.120 Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction company 9 00:00:18.160 --> 00:00:18.800 in the country. 10 00:00:18.920 --> 00:00:23.399 You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insane. I mean, it 11 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:24.559 just doesn't end together. 12 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:28.440 Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of construction, 13 00:00:28.760 --> 00:00:31.480 real estate, development, design and more. Here. 14 00:00:31.519 --> 00:00:33.600 I'm predictable. Every time I think I know what you want, 15 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:35.799 you switch it out. But that's what makes your houses 16 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:36.159 all us. 17 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:39.479 They discuss anything that happens between the roof and the foundation. 18 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:42.679 Nothing is off limits. You truly do care about everybody. 19 00:00:42.759 --> 00:00:44.320 She can yell at, you can scream, but when you 20 00:00:44.359 --> 00:00:46.920 get her alone, she's the best person on the planet. 21 00:00:47.000 --> 00:00:59.320 Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails. 22 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:57.479 And I'm being the studio with who Samantha, what did 23 00:00:57.520 --> 00:01:00.359 you have a last name? Stumpa? Oh? Thank you? Okay, 24 00:01:00.359 --> 00:01:02.840 and we have Dan Cummings and Dan. 25 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:05.959 I am the founding president of Journey Forward, which is 26 00:01:06.000 --> 00:01:09.599 a non profit organization that is dedicated to bettering the 27 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:13.200 lives of those paralysis to an intense exercise based program 28 00:01:13.280 --> 00:01:15.239 and were located in Canton, Massachusetts. 29 00:01:15.359 --> 00:01:18.040 Great and our superstar that I grew up with, that 30 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:19.799 I had a crush on as a young girl. 31 00:01:20.040 --> 00:01:21.239 I'm fifty nine, how old you? 32 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:25.640 I know you'll do the math sixty six? 33 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:29.439 Right, Okay, it's had a crush on an older boy, 34 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:30.640 Like what was I like eight? 35 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:31.920 Yeah? 36 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:35.920 But you were watching probably the show as a latch 37 00:01:36.000 --> 00:01:37.799 key kid. No, I mean after. 38 00:01:37.599 --> 00:01:40.000 School and I waited Friday night so I had to come. 39 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:43.400 Well, then you were interested in a much older man, 40 00:01:43.599 --> 00:01:47.200 David Joe. You were only five and I was like twelve. 41 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:48.799 No, I was watching it. 42 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:52.840 It went like this, It went like eight nine and 43 00:01:52.879 --> 00:01:55.760 then like that agy show at eleven o'clock. 44 00:01:56.079 --> 00:02:00.920 It was the Family Hour? Was it moved because we were 45 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:03.400 on both at eight o'clock? And I think one year 46 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:06.239 we were on at seven thirty, or if we weren't 47 00:02:06.239 --> 00:02:09.240 on at seven thirty, it was Nanny and the Professor 48 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:10.919 that came on before us. But I thought we always 49 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:14.360 a eving Pottage family, and then the Party family, and then. 50 00:02:14.400 --> 00:02:16.560 Then at eleven o'clock or that tent to eleven. 51 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:19.960 Well, that was style Love American Style. That was from 52 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:21.960 twenty two right, was on. 53 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:23.039 And it was great. 54 00:02:23.080 --> 00:02:25.759 So what was I Love American Style? It was a 55 00:02:25.800 --> 00:02:26.240 great show. 56 00:02:26.280 --> 00:02:27.199 Great A bunch came out of what. 57 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:30.039 Year sixty nine? Follow sixty nine? 58 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:31.319 It stayed on for how long? 59 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:36.199 Five years? Sixty So through the spring I wasn't remembering 60 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:37.759 you the spring of seventy four. 61 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:39.879 I couldn't remember four years old if I tried. So 62 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:41.319 do they we run you guys. 63 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:44.919 Oh my god, constantly. I mean it's never been it's 64 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.280 never been off the air somewhere. It's always playing in 65 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:50.120 other countries as well. So so, yeah, you watched it, 66 00:02:50.240 --> 00:02:53.479 and and you know, probably in two hour cycles, four 67 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:54.680 episodes back to back. 68 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:58.319 No, I watched it on I know how I watched it. It 69 00:02:58.400 --> 00:03:01.479 was you guys, the Pottage family, the other I don't know. 70 00:03:01.759 --> 00:03:04.439 And then you watch it later later because kids like 71 00:03:04.680 --> 00:03:06.159 they can't get enough of the same thing. 72 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:07.960 On the major network and they played it. 73 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.240 Did you notice that about your daughter, of course constantly 74 00:03:10.280 --> 00:03:11.840 watching the same thing when she was growing up. 75 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:14.360 Yeah, if I had watched one more Little Mermaid, I might. 76 00:03:14.840 --> 00:03:17.599 I'm sorry it was Greece. Greece a Little Mermaid. I 77 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:18.840 think we watched it a thousand times. 78 00:03:18.919 --> 00:03:20.919 Okay, well that's your fault. You introduced me to it. 79 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.240 So you did the same thing with your mom with 80 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:24.120 the Brady Bunch. 81 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:24.840 Then I must have. 82 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:27.520 And then I always wanted, Uh, what was the ones 83 00:03:27.520 --> 00:03:28.759 you watched in the morning you went to school? 84 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:30.639 O Yea'll leave it to beaver and father's nose. I 85 00:03:30.639 --> 00:03:33.280 got that for you, mother, I got you like a 86 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:33.639 whole set. 87 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:35.159 I don't think I was born when they came out 88 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.360 with that. All right, So Chris Christopher, what brings you 89 00:03:38.400 --> 00:03:39.199 together tonight? 90 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:39.599 With Dan? 91 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:46.479 I have luckily been a part of Dan's success in 92 00:03:46.479 --> 00:03:50.520 his organization. Uh, since it was an idea, since it 93 00:03:50.560 --> 00:03:54.680 was a fresh idea. I knew Dan's brother, who's an actor, 94 00:03:54.719 --> 00:03:58.840 writer director in Los Angeles. This is now fifteen years ago, 95 00:03:58.879 --> 00:04:03.120 fifteen sixteen years ago, when Dan was just putting together 96 00:04:03.840 --> 00:04:07.879 the concept of opening a facility and as a nonprofit 97 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:10.560 and was looking to raise funds to do that, and 98 00:04:10.960 --> 00:04:13.759 his brother Jimmy knew me said he needs he might 99 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.839 need somebody to you know, celebrity host to help him out. 100 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:19.519 And so I said, well, I tell me about Dan. 101 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:23.439 And I learned about Dan enough to know, you know, 102 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:25.439 it sounds like this is something I should be part of. 103 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:26.519 And then in meeting Dan. 104 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:28.240 And hearing Dan that was supposed to go to a 105 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.560 year ago in Denham, a legacy place. Yes, it's been 106 00:04:31.600 --> 00:04:34.920 a year ready, wow, Okay, wait time ago? 107 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:37.600 All right, Okay, that's ago. Now it's all coming to me. 108 00:04:37.639 --> 00:04:39.920 Okay now, so we've been doing it now for fifteen years. 109 00:04:40.000 --> 00:04:41.720 Okay, perfect. 110 00:04:42.399 --> 00:04:45.959 So you you actually knew was brother in la and 111 00:04:45.959 --> 00:04:47.319 that's how it brought you to Boston. 112 00:04:48.279 --> 00:04:49.199 That brought me to Boston. 113 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:50.959 And I've always liked Boston. I've always had friends here, 114 00:04:51.000 --> 00:04:53.600 you know. I have a career in high tech back 115 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:56.279 in the eighties and nineties that brought me into Boston 116 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:59.480 for Macworld when it was here, And have a number 117 00:04:59.480 --> 00:05:01.639 of very special of friends that live in the area. 118 00:05:01.759 --> 00:05:03.600 So yeah, it's always been it's always been a very 119 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:05.360 special place. I was, you know, born in New York 120 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:09.360 City but raised on the West Coast. Always like Boston more. 121 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:12.199 I don't blame you, So don't we stay here? 122 00:05:12.360 --> 00:05:13.000 Easier to live. 123 00:05:13.399 --> 00:05:15.839 So let me ask you something, Chris. So, you left 124 00:05:15.879 --> 00:05:18.240 acting in nineteen eighty eight to pursue a business career 125 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:19.360 in computer industry. 126 00:05:19.439 --> 00:05:22.839 Right, it didn't intend to, but that's what happened. 127 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:25.160 So what did you stay in acting longer? 128 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.000 If you well, you know, see, acting is something that 129 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.839 you are and takes so little time. Of the work 130 00:05:30.879 --> 00:05:35.399 part takes so little time compared to the pursuing part 131 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:38.439 that it leaves a lot of time to do something else. 132 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:42.800 But it's not compatible with the career path someplace else. 133 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:45.800 So when I got into high tech, you know, I started, 134 00:05:46.399 --> 00:05:48.600 you know, not knowing anything, and then into you know, 135 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:52.519 being a manager and then working for companies that were 136 00:05:52.560 --> 00:05:54.759 public and it's like you can't say, I'm not going 137 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.240 to be here on Tuesday, I have an interview, you know, 138 00:05:57.319 --> 00:05:59.160 you have meetings and stuff like that, and so eventually 139 00:05:59.240 --> 00:06:01.079 it's just like, yeah, I don't have time for it, 140 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:02.680 you know, pursuing of that anymore. 141 00:06:02.720 --> 00:06:04.399 Did you if you could go back in time, would 142 00:06:04.399 --> 00:06:05.360 you have been a kid actor? 143 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:09.160 Yes? In my case, I wouldn't put it this way. 144 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:11.160 Let me ask the question, let me answer the question 145 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:13.360 as though you asked me. If you had a kid, 146 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:16.240 would you let them be a child actor? I would say, 147 00:06:16.240 --> 00:06:19.240 you know, I know now I would say no. But 148 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:23.439 then the question you ask, yes, it was good for 149 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:26.199 me and I and people say, well, how can you 150 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:28.319 reconcile them too? Well, the reason is is it was 151 00:06:28.360 --> 00:06:33.160 a unique experience, one that I still learned from today 152 00:06:33.360 --> 00:06:37.160 how much it causes me to be who I am. 153 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:40.439 The show was was unique in the message it was 154 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:47.279 sending and in the way that it lived those values. 155 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:49.319 Inside with children and married. 156 00:06:49.480 --> 00:06:53.800 Yeah, it's about getting along and that's all you know 157 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:55.920 as children. This is the reason it resonates with kids 158 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:58.120 and why I call it a filter that you know 159 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:00.519 all kids pass through. They've all watched a show at 160 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:02.959 some point if they've been introduced to it. Kids like 161 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:08.000 watching kids. You know, every child is looking for how 162 00:07:08.040 --> 00:07:11.680 they fit, even in the family they were born into. 163 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.040 The more kids you have, the more struggles they have 164 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:19.279 with understanding exactly where they fit. But that's the first 165 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:21.519 community that we all live in. 166 00:07:22.079 --> 00:07:23.720 So you had your work family. 167 00:07:24.079 --> 00:07:25.959 Right, But I had I had, Yes, I had the 168 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:30.600 work family and you know, these these surrogate brothers and sisters, 169 00:07:30.959 --> 00:07:33.839 But I had lessons that it was actually being taught 170 00:07:34.120 --> 00:07:37.399 while I was saying lines, uh inadvertently, you know that 171 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:38.680 I wasn't learning at home? 172 00:07:39.720 --> 00:07:41.480 And when you went home, did they have to ground 173 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:44.360 you like you're You're like no, but you're just Christopher 174 00:07:44.439 --> 00:07:45.959 in this house, like you're not Peter Brady. 175 00:07:45.959 --> 00:07:47.160 They didn't even have to work at that. 176 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:48.120 You didn't even have to work at that. 177 00:07:48.160 --> 00:07:51.519 No, it's just where you your place in the second morning, 178 00:07:52.040 --> 00:07:56.560 you know. Yeah, So it was, uh, yeah, don't My 179 00:07:56.600 --> 00:07:57.839 family wasn't at all. 180 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:00.360 The Bradies, was it? I don't think so why I got. 181 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:05.560 This experience of both like what that's like because it's aspirational. 182 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:08.319 My mom hated it because it was aspirational. I'm thinking, 183 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:11.319 what's wrong aspirational? I'm only thirteen years old. 184 00:08:11.439 --> 00:08:13.600 Mom took you to work every day, dropped you off for. 185 00:08:13.560 --> 00:08:15.959 The studio, then drop me off, stay. 186 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:18.079 There, stay there. Oh, she stayed with you. You have 187 00:08:18.120 --> 00:08:20.600 to have a guardian, so back then parents had to 188 00:08:20.639 --> 00:08:20.920 be there. 189 00:08:21.319 --> 00:08:23.360 I have a younger brother, seven years younger than me. 190 00:08:23.639 --> 00:08:27.000 I'm eleven years old. He's four five years. She can't 191 00:08:27.040 --> 00:08:30.519 spend it with him. He's being raised by my sister, 192 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:33.200 who's three years younger, by an eight year old. 193 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:35.759 So, but she had to be with you in the studio. 194 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:37.279 This is why I say to people and they say, well, 195 00:08:37.279 --> 00:08:39.440 you know, my kid's cute. I want them to be 196 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.840 an actor. Maybe you should just see I stay away, 197 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:44.360 don't do it. You don't have any idea of what 198 00:08:44.399 --> 00:08:48.000 you're introducing yourself to. The very worst that can happen 199 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.440 is that he's a success, because now, gla do you 200 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:52.360 do with the family? 201 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:57.000 Okay, that's going to be It's just it's very unique 202 00:08:57.039 --> 00:08:59.519 to me to think about that, right, And how were 203 00:08:59.519 --> 00:09:00.000 you schooled? 204 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:01.840 Homeschool in the studio? 205 00:09:02.000 --> 00:09:04.200 No, we have studio school. And the way that our 206 00:09:04.200 --> 00:09:07.960 production worked a Monday after school got out, we started 207 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:11.639 production in summer, worked all summer because those days where 208 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:14.519 there was no school over summer, you got eight hours 209 00:09:14.519 --> 00:09:16.960 of work in. Got it okay, and then you had 210 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:17.519 to have three hours. 211 00:09:17.559 --> 00:09:19.240 I always have to this hold that I thought we're 212 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:21.279 going to break this the city Stubble Toughest Nails on 213 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:22.759 w BZ News Radio ten thirty. 214 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:25.720 It'll be Right Back, sponsored by Floor and Decor, National 215 00:09:25.799 --> 00:09:41.320 Lumber and Village Bank. Autumn turns to winter, and then 216 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:42.480 winter turns the. 217 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:45.399 Spring and welcome back to the Toughest Nails on WBC 218 00:09:45.519 --> 00:09:48.759 News L ten thirty and I'm City out Hey with Samantha. 219 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:51.080 And Cummings and Christopher Night. 220 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:52.559 You guys should know this by now. You know how, 221 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:53.679 you know what to do, Like, I don't have to 222 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:55.200 cue you guys into it. I really should I. 223 00:09:55.240 --> 00:09:57.120 Do this, this, this, this, this, we'll do the thing 224 00:09:57.159 --> 00:10:01.639 of motion. One question before we go into some question is, 225 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:04.840 and I might have been that song or another song 226 00:10:05.000 --> 00:10:06.679 in my memory, you lost your voice? 227 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:08.480 Did they make you do that on purpose? Or was 228 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:11.080 your voice changing the song? 229 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:11.960 We just heard this song. 230 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:14.039 I wanted to get to that part, but it was. 231 00:10:14.000 --> 00:10:15.440 Exactly messages in the song. 232 00:10:16.559 --> 00:10:19.240 So what happened? Would you have lougeously? Why did you 233 00:10:19.279 --> 00:10:21.279 have a loungeeditius? Your voice was changing like in real 234 00:10:21.320 --> 00:10:23.279 life and you couldn't keep up. 235 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:25.759 But what's really happening? Or what was happening in my 236 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:27.120 mind as we did it? 237 00:10:27.279 --> 00:10:27.600 Okay? 238 00:10:27.679 --> 00:10:30.360 Both? So what was really happening? They wrote they wrote 239 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.480 a show about, you know, family of kids who wanted 240 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:34.120 to be singers. 241 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:34.960 No they didn't. 242 00:10:34.960 --> 00:10:36.440 You want to get a silver plat of your parents 243 00:10:36.480 --> 00:10:37.799 you couldn't afford. And I got to tell you how 244 00:10:37.840 --> 00:10:38.399 the story goes. 245 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:40.759 Yes, she's always right, don't you know? 246 00:10:41.799 --> 00:10:44.399 Absolutely? Look at? Look At. I do a podcast with 247 00:10:44.399 --> 00:10:46.639 with my brother Barry, right, So we do it so 248 00:10:46.679 --> 00:10:48.159 that we can watch the episodes of the first time 249 00:10:48.200 --> 00:10:50.320 in sixty years, so we understand what the audience has 250 00:10:50.360 --> 00:10:53.240 been watching this whole time, because we're the last to 251 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:54.279 actually understand the. 252 00:10:54.200 --> 00:10:56.720 Show because you did like, but we watched it, so 253 00:10:56.759 --> 00:10:57.720 we're concentrating. 254 00:10:57.759 --> 00:10:59.519 Okay, right, so we're trying to get caught up by 255 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:02.120 bye bye watching it. So you're right, we did review 256 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:04.480 this episode, but I seem to have already forgotten what 257 00:11:04.519 --> 00:11:08.639 I review. Yes, well, I know the voice was changing, 258 00:11:08.720 --> 00:11:11.399 so to me, look at, I have no skills in 259 00:11:11.399 --> 00:11:13.840 this area. I knew it at a very early age. 260 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:15.639 And all of a sudden, they're asking us to sing, 261 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:18.679 and I'm not able to hold my my you know, 262 00:11:19.320 --> 00:11:21.759 I'm not I'm not able to keep up right, So 263 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:26.440 I feel like I'm like holding them down. But don't 264 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:30.320 but don't make me do this because it's just humiliating. 265 00:11:30.720 --> 00:11:33.320 So now they write a show and they point out 266 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:35.960 I can't sing. That's what's going through my head. I'm 267 00:11:36.000 --> 00:11:40.639 thinking they're humiliating purposely and uh, you know it was 268 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:42.679 a it was a I have to say it was 269 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:45.759 the bleakest week all the weeks of all the shows 270 00:11:45.799 --> 00:11:47.519 I did. I watch it now and I laugh because 271 00:11:47.519 --> 00:11:50.960 it is kind of fun funny. I'm you know, I'm 272 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:52.440 scarred into a laugh. 273 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.799 I guess a smile or something better than if they 274 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:57.600 were just to replace you because of that part. Right, Well, 275 00:11:58.759 --> 00:11:59.759 they couldn't replace some, but. 276 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:01.279 They do that now for people that can't sing. 277 00:12:01.360 --> 00:12:03.559 They like thinking for them. And yeah, they could have 278 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:04.480 did a voiceover for you. 279 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:06.679 I didn't realize I was signing onto a musical show, 280 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:09.480 you know it show, but yeah, yeah, and all of 281 00:12:09.519 --> 00:12:11.559 a sudden, we're singing and and yes, I. 282 00:12:11.480 --> 00:12:14.080 Thought I thought that kids when they tried out to 283 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:16.120 have to know how to sing and act and dance 284 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:17.480 and all that, have all that talent. 285 00:12:17.759 --> 00:12:20.879 But they didn't back then obviously not because. 286 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:25.159 Well you can't. You can't paint that way. It's not 287 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:27.159 like it was it only you out of your family. 288 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:29.879 Maybe Disney's that's what you're thinking, well, because if you're 289 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:32.120 going to be performing and singing, dancing, that might be 290 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:35.639 one of the skill sets you review. But that was 291 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:36.240 in our show. 292 00:12:36.919 --> 00:12:38.679 But you guys, and they loved the fact that. 293 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:40.159 I couldn't sing because it was real. 294 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:42.440 It was real. But you guys did put on an 295 00:12:42.480 --> 00:12:44.200 album pretty much put it on album. 296 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:48.159 We did? Did you not sing the other put me 297 00:12:48.200 --> 00:12:50.879 as far away from that microphone as possible? 298 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:54.120 Okay, one more question. When I went to school with 299 00:12:54.159 --> 00:12:56.159 a Patis family lunchbox. 300 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:56.519 You did? 301 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:58.480 It was so geeky, like I was like, who was 302 00:12:58.519 --> 00:12:59.480 who was right? 303 00:12:59.720 --> 00:12:59.919 Who? 304 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:02.000 I got it? Then I got David Cassie, and then 305 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:03.960 you guys went out of the window because I had David. 306 00:13:04.080 --> 00:13:07.120 Okay, all right? And then you have a lunch box 307 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:09.000 or a Partridge traveling lunch box. 308 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:10.240 I had David. 309 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:10.679 Okay. 310 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:13.440 I told my dad I want David. I don't want 311 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:16.159 the whole Polish family, right, like, no, had David. Like, 312 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:18.200 so you jump you know what I mean, Like you 313 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:19.480 have a crush here, then you move your. 314 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:20.559 Cars getting older? 315 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:24.320 Yeah, and but all that money that. 316 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:25.720 He's even older than me, he is. 317 00:13:25.679 --> 00:13:26.840 Older than well now he's dead. 318 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:30.960 But so you you were moving up, you were. 319 00:13:31.200 --> 00:13:33.240 I was going up in the world, right I became. 320 00:13:33.320 --> 00:13:36.440 I liked long here and but I was probavate. 321 00:13:36.799 --> 00:13:38.279 I don't know. Twelve then eleven twelve. 322 00:13:38.279 --> 00:13:39.960 Whatever, Oh my god, it seems like it would never 323 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:43.919 go all that money that they make, all the merchandise everything. 324 00:13:44.360 --> 00:13:46.799 Did you guys get paid for that or just everybody's 325 00:13:46.799 --> 00:13:48.679 in your pockets and you don't get paid for that. 326 00:13:49.200 --> 00:13:51.360 We didn't have a merchandising deal, so I have no 327 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:55.600 idea what happened to that money on that merchandising that 328 00:13:55.720 --> 00:14:00.000 happened early on the lunch pail stuff. We were asked 329 00:14:00.159 --> 00:14:03.320 to sign a merchandising deal in the early nineties, which 330 00:14:03.399 --> 00:14:07.360 I led actually the negotiations on because there was nothing 331 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:10.159 in existence, and at that time the show had already 332 00:14:10.200 --> 00:14:13.200 been canceled back and you know, we're talking seventy four, 333 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.720 we're talking now ninety two. The paramount at that time 334 00:14:16.840 --> 00:14:22.120 had some need to get a real merchandising deal with 335 00:14:22.240 --> 00:14:25.679 us in order. I don't know if you know what 336 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:28.679 happened before that, Like they just collected money and didn't 337 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:33.039 pay us for our likeness, right, But from ninety two 338 00:14:33.120 --> 00:14:35.200 on we are paid for the merchandising. 339 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:38.080 And then what about syndication, Like I wasn't paid for 340 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:40.519 syndication on HGTV. 341 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:42.759 Because you're a cable, you know, right, So there was no. 342 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.000 Real syndication, absolutely, but we were one of the you know, 343 00:14:46.039 --> 00:14:48.919 I think syndications started in sixty seven where you got 344 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:51.960 paid reuse because there was no reuse whatsoever prior. 345 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:53.600 Night came out and all that. And you're playing back 346 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:53.840 on this. 347 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:55.679 It's not that simple. Yeah, so it should have been 348 00:14:55.759 --> 00:14:59.080 that we got something from that. We were in syndication 349 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:04.000 for the contracts reread. You're basically first year under the 350 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:09.200 contract that you did during principal photography. So even if 351 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:15.039 the union would have and did negotiate better deals, it 352 00:15:15.080 --> 00:15:17.799 didn't affect the shows that were produced in front of 353 00:15:17.799 --> 00:15:20.759 a camera prior to that deal going down. So our 354 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:24.480 shows were all produced between sixty nine and seventy four, 355 00:15:25.480 --> 00:15:27.919 so we're under the contract that was in existence at 356 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:31.600 that time. In that contract, at the base level, paid 357 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:34.720 for reuse up to ten runs and then all rights 358 00:15:34.759 --> 00:15:37.720 reverted back. So the so the reason you're talking about 359 00:15:37.879 --> 00:15:41.480 these each episode running ten times, and it started, you know, 360 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:45.559 at some level, and then it came down and yeah, 361 00:15:45.559 --> 00:15:48.039 but as soon as they invented cable, for twenty years, 362 00:15:48.240 --> 00:15:50.279 nobody was paying anything on cable. He say, it's a 363 00:15:50.279 --> 00:15:51.559 new industry. You're trying to figure it. 364 00:15:51.519 --> 00:15:54.480 Out and then got download the music and you get 365 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:57.679 how many cents for the nine nine cents they paid of? 366 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:02.240 What of that's different again, that's music shooting. You pay 367 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.639 for that different again. I mean, that's a whole different contract. 368 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:06.360 You got to take advance. 369 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:10.799 But we do have a part of that too, because yeah, 370 00:16:10.840 --> 00:16:14.159 the record deal were awful, but we we ended up 371 00:16:14.200 --> 00:16:16.039 suing him. I can't remember the reason why, but we 372 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:18.159 ultimately settled you entertainment. 373 00:16:18.240 --> 00:16:21.759 You've absolutely been in one of those lawsuits somewhere. Okay, 374 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:24.799 so we're going to go back to Dan. Dan, tell 375 00:16:24.840 --> 00:16:25.759 me about this journey. 376 00:16:25.879 --> 00:16:27.360 What are you doing? What are we what are we 377 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:28.000 raising money for? 378 00:16:28.159 --> 00:16:31.000 Let's tell Jan's story. Let's go back to understand why Dan. 379 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:33.799 I met like a decade ago on another radio show 380 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:36.279 that he was a guest on. I was a guest 381 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:38.960 on I'm on TV and you're doing your things. So 382 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:41.000 either I went before you or you went before me. 383 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:43.600 You you went before me. 384 00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:45.440 Yeah, and then that's how I met you as I 385 00:16:45.440 --> 00:16:48.360 was leaving probably, Okay, got it, bring us up to speak. 386 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:49.600 Are you familiar with dan story? 387 00:16:50.039 --> 00:16:51.279 I am vaguely vaguely. 388 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:53.720 So let's let Dan tell history because it's riveting. 389 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:57.200 Broke Wneck in June two thousand and nineteen years old, 390 00:16:57.360 --> 00:17:00.480 diving into water. Luckily, to of my friends, I wasn't 391 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:02.519 getting out of the water, and ran in and pulled me. 392 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:03.360 Out onto the shore. 393 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:06.119 I immediately noticed I couldn't move my legs, and I 394 00:17:06.160 --> 00:17:07.960 started yelling, I can't move my legs. I can't move 395 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:10.400 my legs. One of my friends bent down. He started 396 00:17:10.400 --> 00:17:11.759 to hit my legs, said Dan, can you fail that? 397 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:13.839 I couldn't fail it. And right then I knew what happened, 398 00:17:13.880 --> 00:17:14.799 and I stilled call nine. 399 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:15.640 One again went seven. 400 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:19.799 When did it happen? In a lake in Westward? And 401 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:22.559