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<v Speaker 1>All right, two more hours left before we get out

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<v Speaker 1>of here.

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<v Speaker 2>For the weekend. I'm sure for many of you the

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<v Speaker 2>weekend has already started. If so, hell yeah, salute. We

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<v Speaker 2>were out on Monday. I'm assuming most people are aware

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<v Speaker 2>of that. If not, now you know, So after we

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<v Speaker 2>wrap up the show today, we'll be back on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to see. I don't I don't have a whole lot

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<v Speaker 2>of confidence that they'll be able to make this happen.

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<v Speaker 2>And it really won't be anybody's fault. It's just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of how things are. But I'm going to see

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<v Speaker 2>if I can get the show on the road at

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<v Speaker 2>some point next week to you know, just have a party,

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<v Speaker 2>as it'll be the last week for me here at

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<v Speaker 2>seven ninety and if not, we'll still have a party

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<v Speaker 2>here via the airwaves. But I am going to try

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<v Speaker 2>to see if I can make something happen, and if so,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you know as soon as I can, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you can come out and and you know, celebrate

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<v Speaker 2>with us. I don't really know what we're celebrating. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually kind of sad be honest with you, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna miss being a being a part of the station.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been a part of this station for over nine

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<v Speaker 2>years now, and it still doesn't seem real that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not only going to be able to make the move

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<v Speaker 2>to eight forty whas and step in for Tony Cruz

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<v Speaker 2>who's retiring, but it also doesn't seem quite real that

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<v Speaker 2>I've been able to do this for as long as

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<v Speaker 2>I have, and it's been a lot of fun. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not to overdo it and be you know, dramatic,

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<v Speaker 2>but it really has been a dream for me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to make the most of these last

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<v Speaker 2>these last shows that I have and again reminder, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not I'm not I'm not moving away. I'm not really

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<v Speaker 2>going anywhere other than just down the hall and up

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<v Speaker 2>your radio dial right seven ninety to eight forty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just just.

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<v Speaker 2>Really one station up. I don't know if there's a

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<v Speaker 2>station that's AM that's between seven ninety and eight forty.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm as I'm going to assume that there's not. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I hope a lot of you will be able to

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<v Speaker 2>join me in the mornings and still be able to

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<v Speaker 2>get a little bit of what you get here not

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the same thing, certainly, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there will be some nonsense here and there in a

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<v Speaker 2>good way. Maybe I shouldn't say that. Maybe they'll change

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<v Speaker 2>plans and not give me the opportunity, so I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>shut up, all right. It's Coffee and Company we are

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<v Speaker 2>feeling about Thornton's. If you are a member of their

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<v Speaker 2>Refreshing Awards program, you're gonna save money at the gas

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<v Speaker 2>pump every single time, and you'll also save up the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five cents per gallon once per week. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people, I guess it depends on your routine how

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<v Speaker 2>much you drive. But for me, I'm usually able to

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<v Speaker 2>get gas once per week and that usually is enough

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<v Speaker 2>time to where I don't run out, So each time

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting twenty five cents off, and that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's who would pass that up. I know that may

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<v Speaker 2>not seem like a big, a big amount of money

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<v Speaker 2>as far as savings to you, but I bet it

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<v Speaker 2>adds up. I can't do the math off the top

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<v Speaker 2>of my head, but if you fill up once per

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<v Speaker 2>week and you're saving twenty five cents off because of

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<v Speaker 2>the membership that you have, with the Thornton's Refreshming Awards program.

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<v Speaker 2>By the end of the year, you're saving some money.

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<v Speaker 2>Unless I check. People like to save money, right, so again,

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<v Speaker 2>good to go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So the.

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<v Speaker 2>College football offseason content is in full force right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We've talked a lot about that throughout the last couple

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<v Speaker 2>of weeks. The CBS Sports College Football Coaching Rankings as

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<v Speaker 2>they rank power coaches from sixty eight. From one through

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight, Jeff Bromp came in at number seventeen, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Stoops at number thirty six, Kurt Signetti was inside the

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty five as well, And then we also talked

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit earlier about the Pro Football focus. Running

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<v Speaker 2>back rooms is what they describe it for those who

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<v Speaker 2>don't really understand what that means. Your running back room

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<v Speaker 2>is just your running back position, meaning how good you are,

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<v Speaker 2>how good your running back room is meaning how good

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<v Speaker 2>you are top to bottom at that position. And Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>came in at number four, which isn't a big shocker.

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<v Speaker 2>Considering the two true freshmen last year both coming back,

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<v Speaker 2>Duke Watson and Isaac Brown. I know Louisville has continuously

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<v Speaker 2>done well in the portal this new world, but getting

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<v Speaker 2>guys back is just as much, if not more valuable

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<v Speaker 2>than who you can bring in via the portal. And

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<v Speaker 2>I probably shouldn't say this, but it's just the truth.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just my honest opinion, and I'm glad I was wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you'd have told me towards the end of

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<v Speaker 2>last season that Louiville would be able to bring back

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<v Speaker 2>both Duke Watson and Isaac Brown, who clearly could have

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of money elsewhere, and I'm sure they

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<v Speaker 2>got a lot of money here and they deserve it,

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<v Speaker 2>but they also probably could have I mean Duke Watson specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's already behind a guy as far as

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<v Speaker 2>reps and production as a true freshman to where it

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<v Speaker 2>would just think I think most would assume like he

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<v Speaker 2>could love Louisville, he could have a big offer as

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<v Speaker 2>far as money, which he probably did, and it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have shocked me if he decided to leave, because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he wants to be the guy and look who knows

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<v Speaker 2>maybe he is the guy this year and he steps

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of Isaac Brown. Who knows how that shakes out.

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<v Speaker 2>But both are proven to be really good running backs,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think getting both the them to come back

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<v Speaker 2>and not leave else to go elsewhere for maybe a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bigger payday or a bigger role.

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<v Speaker 2>That speaks to the culture that Jet Brohm has in

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<v Speaker 2>place right now. And again, getting a new weapon, a

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<v Speaker 2>new player I should say, not a weapon, but a

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<v Speaker 2>new player in the portal rather it be basketball, football, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>it's really exciting because it's new and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's somebody that you know, you hope can really really succeed.

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<v Speaker 2>But sometimes getting good players back is a bigger deal

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<v Speaker 2>than anything, and Louisville has been able to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there have been some guys that did leave

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<v Speaker 2>in the portal that I didn't want to leave, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's just where we are right now in college athletics.

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<v Speaker 2>But getting Watson and Brown back certainly a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>But what I want to look at now is the athletics.

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<v Speaker 2>Stewart Mandel's then want to put this together the top

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five college football programs of the two thousands, so

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<v Speaker 2>really the last twenty five years Louisville, Kentucky, nobody locally

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<v Speaker 2>came in. And the reason I bring this up is

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm just curious where Louisville may may have fallen

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<v Speaker 2>if they went to thirty, like would they be in

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<v Speaker 2>the top thirty. And it doesn't look as if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>scrolling through here at the Athletic it is behind a paywall.

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<v Speaker 2>But I do have a subscription here to The Athletic.

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<v Speaker 1>Not to brag.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's not like it's you know, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>worth it. I say that to let you know you

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<v Speaker 2>should sign up and subscribe to because they do really

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<v Speaker 2>good work.

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<v Speaker 1>But they have the top.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty five, and again Louisville's not in it. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you look at twenty through twenty five, at twenty you've

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<v Speaker 2>got Boise State. They have an eighty percent win percentage.

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<v Speaker 2>Since two thousand, they have been ranked as high as

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<v Speaker 2>number two. They have no losing seasons, and they have

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<v Speaker 2>spent forty three point three percent of the last twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five years in the top twenty five. They have eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty five wins. They have four top ten wins

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<v Speaker 2>and thirteen conference titles and four BCS Slash New York

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<v Speaker 2>six New Year's six Bowl games, not New York New

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<v Speaker 2>Year's Sorry, I saw in why and just said New

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<v Speaker 2>York apologies. So at number twenty one is Oklahoma State.

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<v Speaker 2>They won sixty three percent of their games, They had

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<v Speaker 2>four losing seasons. They spent forty seven percent of the

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<v Speaker 2>of the last twenty five years. In the top twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Utah is at number twenty two, Iowa is at twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three with just two losing seasons, Washington is twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>and Michigan State is twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to run through all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Numbers for each of those five, but when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to Louisville, they're winning percentage in the last twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>years is let me see, I just had it pulled

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<v Speaker 2>up sixty seven point five. That's pretty good. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>as you can tell, that's better than some of these

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<v Speaker 2>teams that are ranked in the top twenty five. So

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<v Speaker 2>my gut as far as losing seasons, how many losing

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<v Speaker 2>seasons as Louisville had, I'm gonna guess they've had in

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<v Speaker 2>the last twenty five years. Since two thousand, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>guess they've had eight losing seasons and I'm just completely guessing.

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<v Speaker 1>I could be way off.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see if And by the way, this is the

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<v Speaker 2>power of chat GPT because you can simply put this

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<v Speaker 2>in there and they'll tell you which. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm embarrassed how wrong I was. Louisville's only had four

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<v Speaker 2>losing seasons in the last twenty five years two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and eight, two thousand and nine, and then twenty and eighteen, which.

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<v Speaker 1>Was Bobby's last year. That really was a bad, bad year.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in twenty twenty they went four and seven,

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<v Speaker 2>was probably one of the more underwhelming years based off

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<v Speaker 2>of what expectations were. That was the year where Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>was coming off of the first season of sadderfield. They

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<v Speaker 2>went eight and five with that win against Mississippi State

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<v Speaker 2>and the Music City Bowl brought back a lot of players,

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<v Speaker 2>and Sat was hyped, as you know, I mean, he

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<v Speaker 2>won ACC Coach of the Year in his first year,

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<v Speaker 2>you remember, and then obviously never really took off after that,

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<v Speaker 2>and in fact, his worst season was his second season

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<v Speaker 2>where they only played ACC teams along with that one

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<v Speaker 2>game I think it was against WKU. So when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to what Louisville could have done to get in

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<v Speaker 2>the top twenty five. I mean, they have four losing seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>The only teams in the ranked twentieth through twenty five

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<v Speaker 2>that have less losing seasons is Boise State, who I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm just going to say it like they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to look at them the exact same way

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<v Speaker 2>that you look at everybody else. Now you can also

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<v Speaker 2>say the same thing about Louisville. You got to keep

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<v Speaker 2>in mind a little it and enter the Big East until

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<v Speaker 2>what two thousand and five. I think it was so

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<v Speaker 2>those first four years of the twenty of the two thousands,

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville was in Conference USA, although Conference USA wasn't great

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<v Speaker 2>and also wasn't terrible. In fact, I think you could

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<v Speaker 2>make the case that it's better than what Boise He's

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<v Speaker 2>played in the last couple of years. Maybe I'm wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>A long time ago so I feel like we could

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<v Speaker 2>have been in this top twenty five and it would

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<v Speaker 2>not have been viewed as like how the hell they

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<v Speaker 2>put them there? And again maybe I'm biased in saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we don't have actually do we have any conference titles?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we have I'm sure the Conference USA titles

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<v Speaker 2>in the late years of Louisville's time there top ten wins. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at the criteria that would have left Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>got to also be maybe the percentage of the weeks

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<v Speaker 2>that you've been ranked. But I feel like if Stuart

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<v Speaker 2>to be there. Maybe I'm wrong again When it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to BCS in New Year's Eve, New Year six Bowls,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, really that's it because you didn't play in

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<v Speaker 2>But also you look at you know, you look at

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<v Speaker 2>other teams. I mean, Iowa only has three, Oklahoma State

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<v Speaker 2>has three. So I guess that's probably where you really

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<v Speaker 2>fell short of those that just made the top twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that? And by the way, I'm gonna I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>guess that Louisville also does not have have that many

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty five wins. I mean, I can think you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and again what what you never know? And it's a

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<v Speaker 2>very important factor when you talk about ranked wins wins

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<v Speaker 2>against the top twenty five some people. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>most people count if you played them and they were

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<v Speaker 2>ranked and you beat them, and they then that that's

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<v Speaker 2>what counts. But I mean, you could also get credit

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<v Speaker 2>for beating a team in Week three that was ranked

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<v Speaker 2>in the top ten and get a top ten win,

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<v Speaker 2>and that team might finish three and nine. And if so,

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<v Speaker 2>what did you actually like? What did you actually accomplish?

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<v Speaker 2>So says your Louisville In the last since two thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville has let's see, they beat West Virginia, Wake Forest,

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<v Speaker 2>NC State, Notre Dame, So yeah, that would probably that

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<v Speaker 2>would probably be one of the factors that that that

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<v Speaker 2>kept you out. And look, who knows what they would

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<v Speaker 2>have done had they played a lot more ranked teams.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think in your time in the in Conference USA,

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<v Speaker 2>in the Big East and in the ACC even like,

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<v Speaker 2>you really haven't played that many ranked teams. So here's

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<v Speaker 2>what's probably likely. Would Louisville have more ranked wins than

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<v Speaker 2>they currently have right now had they played a tougher schedule, Yeah, probably.

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<v Speaker 2>They also probably wouldn't have the sixty seven point five

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<v Speaker 2>winning percentage though, So look, lou I feel like, I

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<v Speaker 2>have no identity crisis when it comes to Louisville football,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been pretty content for many years. I know

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<v Speaker 2>some people get mad when you see empty seats at

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<v Speaker 2>the stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>And what happened with Louislle football.

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<v Speaker 2>We got thrown in the microwave. I mean we did

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<v Speaker 2>we were. I mean when Tom took over Tom Jurch,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that was around the time where Conference USA

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<v Speaker 2>was about to kick us out of the league because

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<v Speaker 2>of just how bad football resources were. Obviously, they were

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<v Speaker 2>independent for a long time, and clearly Schnellenberger didn't want that.

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<v Speaker 2>He wanted to or he wanted to stay independent. He

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<v Speaker 2>din't wanted to join the league, which was a big

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<v Speaker 2>factor in him leaving Louisville. But nonetheless, we went from

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<v Speaker 2>being a team that played in a baseball stadium that

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<v Speaker 2>almost got kicked out of Conference USA to.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was many winning seasons since that happened

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<v Speaker 2>before we got to two thousand and four. But in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and four, I still maybe this's just a

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<v Speaker 2>kid in me because I love watching that team, and

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't I wasn't a little kid. I was, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>like a teenager at the time, but Louisville's two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and four team still feel like that was Louisville's best

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<v Speaker 2>team they ever had. I know a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>would say, how could it be? They played in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Conference USA, and you know, the schedule wasn't great, and

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<v Speaker 2>you're right, there's really no way to know. But I

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<v Speaker 2>watched that team and they were really, really, really special,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was a conference championship.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way.

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<v Speaker 2>They went eight to zero league play and the only

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<v Speaker 2>loss they had was of course that loss at Miami

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<v Speaker 2>when Miami was you know, the U Legitimately that game

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<v Speaker 2>in October of twenty twenty four felt just felt just

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that had you won that, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>would have been undefeated, and you probably would have still

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<v Speaker 2>been on the outside looking in when it comes to

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to play for the BCS National Championship because obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you were in Conference USA, but you had

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<v Speaker 2>them beat and that team had how many NFL players.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna make me sad going back thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless, I feel like if we did get a

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<v Speaker 2>top thirty, Leisvelle would probably appear so where between twenty

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<v Speaker 2>six and thirty. But as far as the most successful programs.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard for me to say I totally agree with this,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's also hard for me to look at the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers and say that this is incorrect. But stru Mandel

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<v Speaker 2>has Ohio State at number one because they have three

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<v Speaker 2>national titles, nine Big Ten Conference titles, thirty nine Top

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<v Speaker 2>ten wins, only one losing season, which I'm not even

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<v Speaker 2>sure when that was. That had to be around the

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<v Speaker 2>time that Tressel was on his way out or something.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's got Alabama number one. I'm sorry, Ohio State

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<v Speaker 2>number one, Alabama number two, and Oklahoma number three, Georgia

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<v Speaker 2>number four, LSU number five, Clemson is at number six,

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<v Speaker 2>Oregon is number seven, USC is eight, Texas is nine,

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<v Speaker 2>and Florida is ten. And I would say just judging

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<v Speaker 2>from the comments at the Athletic and just looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the comments on Twitter, I would guess that Oregon is

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<v Speaker 2>probably the most controversial, which I don't know. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of reminds me of Gonzaga, and maybe they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's not a great comparison, but like Gonzaga, not

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<v Speaker 2>as much now, but for a while they were clearly

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<v Speaker 2>in the top tier of the college Basketball world. They

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<v Speaker 2>just hadn't broke through and won a national championship. So

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<v Speaker 2>I understand if you don't want to put somebody as

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<v Speaker 2>a top tier program until they've actually broken through and

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<v Speaker 2>won at all. But I mean, they were right there

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, just fell short a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 2>But Oregon, they don't have a national championship, but they

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<v Speaker 2>have been to ten BCS New Year six Bowl games,

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<v Speaker 2>They've won eight conference titles, all those being in the

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<v Speaker 2>Pac twelve. So I really don't have much of a

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<v Speaker 2>problem putting Oregon number seven. But again, if you do,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't say I'm surprised. All right, let's get to

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<v Speaker 2>Something that came out. I believe that they see the

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<v Speaker 2>last week of the week before, which was just really

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<v Speaker 2>exciting news. And I can't wait for the NBA to

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<v Speaker 2>return to NBC. But Michael Jordan is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the NBC coverage of the NBA, which

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<v Speaker 2>will just be so nostalgic for somebody like myself. And

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<v Speaker 2>I kept thinking, Okay, this is awesome. I'm not complaining,

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<v Speaker 2>but man, what's making Michael Jordan want to emerge from

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<v Speaker 2>the background. He's never he's Michael Jordan. He's never going

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<v Speaker 2>to be you know, off the radar and unknown like

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<v Speaker 2>he's Michael Jordan. But he's really been in the background

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<v Speaker 2>in every aspect since he stopped playing basketball. Right He's

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<v Speaker 2>owned an NBA team, but he's not real visible. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't hear from him a lot. He doesn't do much

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<v Speaker 2>of anything. He stays to himself. He's heavily involved in

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<v Speaker 2>like NASCAR and whatnot. So I kept thinking, Okay, wonder,

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder what made Jordan decide to do this, given

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<v Speaker 2>the fact that he could have done this at any

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<v Speaker 2>time and he never did. What's changed things now and

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<v Speaker 2>we now have the answer. We'll talk about that next

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<v Speaker 2>Right here on Sports Talk seven ninety. It is four

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two here on a Friday afternoon and coffee and company,

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<v Speaker 2>fueled by Thornton's. We're halfway through and then we're out

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<v Speaker 2>of here for the long weekend, the holiday week and

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully everybody has a good weekend, stay safe and enjoys themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So the Michael Jordan addition to the NBC NBA coverage

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<v Speaker 2>was I feel like one of the biggest surprises we've

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<v Speaker 2>had in I guess broadcast additions, right, like former players

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<v Speaker 2>celebrities are really just you know, broadcasters. You know, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like it was kind of a big deal. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just nerding out on it because you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a nerd for sports broadcasting or whenever the whenever the

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<v Speaker 2>was it the NBC crew that essentially got traded to

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<v Speaker 2>Monday Night Football. Either way, it's it's not important, but

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan really doing anything on camera on Mike is rare,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's never needed to because he's printing money. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a billionaire. Obviously, he's throughout his career which ended

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<v Speaker 2>long ago, that he's I mean, he's the best basketball

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<v Speaker 2>player of all time. So he's never, to my knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>shown any interest in doing anything when it comes to broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 2>But whenever NBC announced that he was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>one of their contributors to their coverage and sort of.

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<v Speaker 1>What that looks like.

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<v Speaker 2>He'll be in studio, I think he may do some

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<v Speaker 2>stuff at games. You know, I was excited, certainly, not complaining,

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<v Speaker 2>but wondering what made Michael Jordan want to do this?

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<v Speaker 2>What made Michael Jordan decide that he, you know, wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to be a part of covering the sport that he

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<v Speaker 2>is probably the best that's ever played it. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>money again, He's he's certainly not in need of money.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't imagine. I mean, I don't know his spending

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<v Speaker 2>habits or his lifestyle, but he could spend a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money every day, an insane amount of money, and

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<v Speaker 2>probably still not run out because you know, he's Michael Jordan.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are some new details.

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<v Speaker 2>That have emerged in regards to the contract that NBC

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<v Speaker 2>offered him, and they're gonna give him forty million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>He has become the highest paid sports analyst in history,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not really a surprise. That's you know, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's how you that's how you get Michael Jordan to

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<v Speaker 2>decide to do something that he's probably never wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>do and may not even want to do now. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know not, I mean, how many people are turning

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<v Speaker 2>down forty million dollars to do anything. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>say that tongue in cheek, but forty million dollars can

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<v Speaker 2>have you considering doing things you would never do, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is Jordan just you know, talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>game that he clearly knows and loves, and he could be.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's here's what's so different about Jordan than anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, because he's been away so long, we've all

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<v Speaker 2>like the Jordan we think of, meaning people like my

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<v Speaker 2>age who are old enough to remember him playing. And

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<v Speaker 2>obviously there's people older than me that remember him playing.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're younger than me, maybe you do remember.

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<v Speaker 2>But I feel like my age range is right around.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was pretty young during his heyday with the Bulls.

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<v Speaker 2>I was under ten years old or right around ten

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<v Speaker 2>years old whenever he got finished with his tenure with

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<v Speaker 2>the Bulls. So I'm very lucky that I have the

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<v Speaker 2>And again, it's weird for me because, as I've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about a lot this week, I'm a big Pacers fan,

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<v Speaker 2>but Jordan was Jordan, So I pulled from my Pacers

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<v Speaker 2>when they would play against Michael and the Bulls in

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<v Speaker 2>the Eastern Conference finals or the Semis whenever we got there.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, it was impossible I think for kids to

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<v Speaker 2>not like Michael Jordan because he was Michael Freakin' Jordan.

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<v Speaker 2>So forty million dollars, I mean, it's probably something that

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<v Speaker 2>was hard for him to turn down because again, forty

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<v Speaker 2>million is a lot to anybody. But it's not like

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<v Speaker 2>he's having to do something that's considered you know, painful

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<v Speaker 2>or a lot of work. I mean, he's Jordan. Therefore,

420
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<v Speaker 2>I think he could show up and by every aspect

421
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<v Speaker 2>as far as how we judge and evaluate who is

422
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<v Speaker 2>good and who is not at broadcasting, Jordan could do

423
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<v Speaker 2>whatever and we're going to say it's great because he's

424
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<v Speaker 2>Michael Jordan. That's just that's the effect that someone of

425
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<v Speaker 2>that status can have. And while we're talking about Jordan,

426
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<v Speaker 2>this is another story that I wanted to mention, so

427
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<v Speaker 2>his longtime agent, David Falk, He was, I think doing

428
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<v Speaker 2>an interview with the Sports Business Journal recently about the

429
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<v Speaker 2>goat debate, which is a never ending, really stupid debate.

430
00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:24.720
<v Speaker 2>And I shouldn't say stupid, because it's not. I mean,

431
00:22:24.759 --> 00:22:26.519
<v Speaker 2>if you go back and forth and you know, you

432
00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:29.000
<v Speaker 2>debate folks about it, or maybe you just debate yourself

433
00:22:29.000 --> 00:22:34.200
<v Speaker 2>internally thinking about who you consider the goat, Jordan or

434
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<v Speaker 2>Lebron or maybe somebody else. I mean, it's really just

435
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<v Speaker 2>there's no way to prove it.

436
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<v Speaker 1>Like some of.

437
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<v Speaker 2>The most I shouldn't even say controversial, but some of

438
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<v Speaker 2>the most talked about, and I guess, I guess they're

439
00:22:48.559 --> 00:22:51.880
<v Speaker 2>called debates, I suppose, but it's really just your opinion,

440
00:22:51.920 --> 00:22:55.480
<v Speaker 2>it's your preference. There's no official way, there's no scientific

441
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<v Speaker 2>way to determine who, in fact is the best at

442
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<v Speaker 2>really anything. I mean, obviously there's there's some real obvious

443
00:23:01.519 --> 00:23:04.440
<v Speaker 2>results that do factor in, and both of these guys

444
00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:07.799
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of rings, right, I mean, that counts.

445
00:23:07.839 --> 00:23:11.160
<v Speaker 2>They've also I mean, no matter how you look at it,

446
00:23:11.200 --> 00:23:16.119
<v Speaker 2>both Jordan and Lebron are, in my opinion, the top

447
00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:19.640
<v Speaker 2>two based off of what most would assume are the

448
00:23:19.680 --> 00:23:24.599
<v Speaker 2>most important factors in how you determine this rings. Obviously,

449
00:23:24.720 --> 00:23:31.160
<v Speaker 2>Jordan's got more, but Lebrons has plenty, and individual accolades,

450
00:23:31.440 --> 00:23:34.759
<v Speaker 2>they both have a lot. I mean, they've both been

451
00:23:35.039 --> 00:23:37.920
<v Speaker 2>insanely successful. But I do think David Falk again, the

452
00:23:37.960 --> 00:23:41.039
<v Speaker 2>former agent of Michael Jordan, when he was asked about it,

453
00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:45.839
<v Speaker 2>he made a pretty obvious observation that for me really

454
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<v Speaker 2>kind of not that I've ever really debated it. I've

455
00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:51.359
<v Speaker 2>always felt like Jordan was the best of all time,

456
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<v Speaker 2>and I think you can have the best of all

457
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<v Speaker 2>time and a guy that I think is the most

458
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<v Speaker 2>talented of all time. I think Lebron James is the

459
00:23:59.079 --> 00:24:01.839
<v Speaker 2>most talented athlete I've watching any sport. And that's just

460
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<v Speaker 2>my opinion. Clearly, I'm sure there's many of you that

461
00:24:03.640 --> 00:24:07.200
<v Speaker 2>don't agree, and I'm content with that, I understand. But

462
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<v Speaker 2>I just think as far as what he's been able

463
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<v Speaker 2>to do at the age that he is now, how

464
00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:15.119
<v Speaker 2>long he's been able to do it, and the fact

465
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<v Speaker 2>that he's a physical specimen, I mean, like, I think,

466
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<v Speaker 2>I think Lebron James is the most talented athlete I've

467
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<v Speaker 2>ever watched in anything. But I think Michael Jordan is

468
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<v Speaker 2>the best basketball player I've ever watched, just because of

469
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<v Speaker 2>his accomplishments, his competitiveness, and clearly he's pretty talented too.

470
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<v Speaker 2>But this quote, really, I think, does make it to

471
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<v Speaker 2>where it's hard to claim that anybody could say Lebron

472
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<v Speaker 2>had a better career, at least as of right now.

473
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<v Speaker 1>Quote.

474
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<v Speaker 2>This is from David Falk, again, the former agent of MJ.

475
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<v Speaker 2>I really like Lebron, but I think if Jordan had

476
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<v Speaker 2>cherry picked what teams he wanted to be on and

477
00:24:50.799 --> 00:24:54.599
<v Speaker 2>two other superstars, he would have won fifteen championships. We'll

478
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<v Speaker 2>never know but I can't say that that's a wild

479
00:24:58.599 --> 00:25:02.720
<v Speaker 2>thing to say. Maybe it's just my childhood, my era.

480
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<v Speaker 2>But like in the nineties, there were a lot of

481
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<v Speaker 2>really really good players. In fact, I believe there are

482
00:25:08.839 --> 00:25:12.960
<v Speaker 2>NBA players who are legends, but they don't have many,

483
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<v Speaker 2>if any rings to show for it because at the

484
00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:18.759
<v Speaker 2>time they were at their best and the franchise they

485
00:25:18.799 --> 00:25:23.599
<v Speaker 2>played for was in their window of potentially winning an

486
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<v Speaker 2>NBA title. They had to face Michael Jordan and the

487
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Chicago Bulls. Now, clearly Jordan had some help, but the

488
00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:36.480
<v Speaker 2>older I get and this is just my opinion alone,

489
00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Jordan benefited from good players, including Scottie Pippen, but they

490
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:44.440
<v Speaker 2>also benefited from Jordan being on their team, you know,

491
00:25:44.519 --> 00:25:47.880
<v Speaker 2>taking away attention from them because everybody had to focus

492
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<v Speaker 2>on Jordan. Phil Jackson is a great coach, but I

493
00:25:52.720 --> 00:25:56.759
<v Speaker 2>think also Phil Jackson, you know he I mean, he's

494
00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:58.480
<v Speaker 2>he coached the team.

495
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<v Speaker 1>That was built by is it Jerry Krause?

496
00:26:01.920 --> 00:26:03.519
<v Speaker 2>Is that his name? The former GM of the of

497
00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.240
<v Speaker 2>the Bulls, which, by the way, the Last Dance documentary

498
00:26:06.319 --> 00:26:07.400
<v Speaker 2>was a really great watch.

499
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<v Speaker 1>But that what I.

500
00:26:09.119 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Learned that I had really no awareness of it all

501
00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:16.160
<v Speaker 2>in watching that ten episode documentary was that you know,

502
00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 2>Jerry Krouse built the Bulls. He built the nineties Bulls.

503
00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:25.319
<v Speaker 2>That was, of course, you know, the best dynasty I've

504
00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:28.920
<v Speaker 2>ever seen in basketball. And what was his downfall is

505
00:26:28.960 --> 00:26:31.039
<v Speaker 2>that he wanted to break it up because he wanted

506
00:26:31.079 --> 00:26:33.519
<v Speaker 2>to show that he's the factor in their success.

507
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<v Speaker 1>And it's you know, he is a GM in sports.

508
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<v Speaker 2>I think you have to you have to understand that

509
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:44.519
<v Speaker 2>it's a pretty self it's a pretty I don't say selfless,

510
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:48.559
<v Speaker 2>but you're never gonna be the guy that's on billboards

511
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:51.079
<v Speaker 2>in your market. You're never gonna be I mean, you

512
00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:52.799
<v Speaker 2>may be a guy that, like, people won't even know

513
00:26:52.839 --> 00:26:54.359
<v Speaker 2>you when you walk into the room, but you built

514
00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:57.039
<v Speaker 2>the team they cheer for. Because gms a lot of

515
00:26:57.079 --> 00:26:59.559
<v Speaker 2>times aren't really in More often than not of a

516
00:26:59.640 --> 00:27:04.400
<v Speaker 2>GM is out in front of a fan base a lot,

517
00:27:04.720 --> 00:27:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and they're talked about a lot within their fan base.

518
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:10.279
<v Speaker 2>That's usually because people are complaining about them and they

519
00:27:10.279 --> 00:27:12.480
<v Speaker 2>want them byed. Now again, if you have a good

520
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:14.480
<v Speaker 2>GM and things are going well, clearly people know who

521
00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:16.440
<v Speaker 2>you are as far as your name, and you get credit,

522
00:27:16.480 --> 00:27:20.279
<v Speaker 2>but never to the extent that players and coaches get

523
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:23.400
<v Speaker 2>and I think you just have to you have to

524
00:27:23.400 --> 00:27:25.359
<v Speaker 2>be able to accept that. And I think Jerry Krause

525
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<v Speaker 2>is somebody that was so badly bothered by the fact

526
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<v Speaker 2>that everybody thought that that great phenomenal dynasty that was

527
00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:36.640
<v Speaker 2>the nineties Bulls was Jordan and Phil Jackson, and it

528
00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.599
<v Speaker 2>was those guys were clearly a part of it. But

529
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, he built it, and that's why he wanted

530
00:27:41.440 --> 00:27:43.920
<v Speaker 2>the Bulls run to come to an end because he just,

531
00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:45.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, he wanted to move on from Phil Jackson,

532
00:27:45.680 --> 00:27:49.000
<v Speaker 2>and you know, that thing, it just it could have

533
00:27:49.079 --> 00:27:52.640
<v Speaker 2>gone on for many years longer. Maybe I always give

534
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>this guy a lot of credit because I'm not comparing

535
00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:59.720
<v Speaker 2>the Warriors in their run, their dynasty to the Bulls,

536
00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.279
<v Speaker 2>although some probably would. I wouldn't, But it's just me.

537
00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:06.599
<v Speaker 2>Bob Myers. You now see him on television. He's part

538
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:09.480
<v Speaker 2>of he's part of ESPN's NBA coverage. He's a studio

539
00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:11.880
<v Speaker 2>analyst and does a good job. But Bob Myers is

540
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:18.440
<v Speaker 2>the GM that built the Warriors and drafted phenomenally with

541
00:28:18.559 --> 00:28:22.880
<v Speaker 2>Steph when others passed on Steph. By the way, Draymond

542
00:28:22.920 --> 00:28:28.119
<v Speaker 2>a second round pick, Klay Thompson. I mean, I don't

543
00:28:28.160 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 2>know if he deserves all the credit, but hey, he's

544
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:32.319
<v Speaker 2>the GM and he got it done. They pulled off

545
00:28:32.519 --> 00:28:36.279
<v Speaker 2>signing Kevin Durant away from the Thunder, but he was

546
00:28:36.279 --> 00:28:39.200
<v Speaker 2>somebody that like a lot of people, even the NBA

547
00:28:40.079 --> 00:28:43.640
<v Speaker 2>fans that aren't necessarily big Warriors fans. They may not

548
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:45.759
<v Speaker 2>know Bob Myers if he walked into a room, but

549
00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:47.759
<v Speaker 2>yet he's the one who kind of put it all together.

550
00:28:48.960 --> 00:28:52.599
<v Speaker 2>So anyways, back to the conversation about the goat, I

551
00:28:52.640 --> 00:28:56.200
<v Speaker 2>think Jordan clearly benefited from having good players around him.

552
00:28:56.640 --> 00:29:02.759
<v Speaker 2>But imagine if you put Jordan alongside Shack in the

553
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Orlando Shack, or maybe he had a big man like

554
00:29:09.480 --> 00:29:13.759
<v Speaker 2>a Keem or even Ewing for that matter. I mean,

555
00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:15.799
<v Speaker 2>no offense to the to the big fellas that played

556
00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:19.279
<v Speaker 2>for the for the Bulls in the nineties, Will Purdue,

557
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.680
<v Speaker 2>Luke Longley. I mean, they had good players. And I

558
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:25.480
<v Speaker 2>was about to say, well, and those guys didn't do

559
00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:28.720
<v Speaker 2>anything after Jordan, but that's not really fair because back

560
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>then players didn't run the league. Players didn't just up

561
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:33.680
<v Speaker 2>and leave all the time like they do now. Players

562
00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:37.720
<v Speaker 2>have so much control, and I like to believe that

563
00:29:38.720 --> 00:29:40.720
<v Speaker 2>back in my day when I watched the NBA as

564
00:29:40.720 --> 00:29:44.839
<v Speaker 2>a kid growing up watching it in the nineties on NBC. Man,

565
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 2>it's nostalgic thinking about it, but I like to think

566
00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:49.119
<v Speaker 2>that they were just built different to where there was

567
00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.799
<v Speaker 2>never it was such a competitive thing, to where there

568
00:29:51.839 --> 00:29:55.480
<v Speaker 2>was never any thought about, hm, we fell short in

569
00:29:55.480 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 2>the playoffs, let me go join this team that just

570
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:01.279
<v Speaker 2>beat me. I like to believe that they were just

571
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:03.519
<v Speaker 2>build different. They were so competitive they would never do

572
00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:07.759
<v Speaker 2>it ever. But I don't know. Maybe if the league

573
00:30:07.920 --> 00:30:10.240
<v Speaker 2>was then what it is now as far as players

574
00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:12.559
<v Speaker 2>having all the power, all the control, maybe they would have.

575
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, but you probably didn't need any added

576
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:22.599
<v Speaker 2>factor to determine Michael Jordan as the goat over Lebron,

577
00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>because I still think Jordan, probably, especially people my age

578
00:30:25.720 --> 00:30:28.559
<v Speaker 2>and older, they just they're always going to probably side

579
00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:32.240
<v Speaker 2>with Jordan more often than not. But it doesn't make

580
00:30:32.319 --> 00:30:34.839
<v Speaker 2>Lebron any less of a great player. But you know,

581
00:30:34.839 --> 00:30:39.319
<v Speaker 2>if Lebron stayed in Cleveland throughout his entire career and

582
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 2>just had to deal with you know the way it

583
00:30:41.880 --> 00:30:44.079
<v Speaker 2>was back then, where you know, you could make trades

584
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:48.200
<v Speaker 2>and you had free agency, But really rosters were mostly

585
00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>built by who you drafted and developed. If Lebron never

586
00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:54.839
<v Speaker 2>left Cleveland and he had as many rings as he

587
00:30:54.880 --> 00:30:56.720
<v Speaker 2>does now, I think it would be a different conversation.

588
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.000
<v Speaker 2>But he obviously bailed on Cleveland after not being able

589
00:30:59.960 --> 00:31:02.799
<v Speaker 2>to get him a ring, went to Miami, and Miami

590
00:31:02.920 --> 00:31:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Lebron was scary. That was when I think Lebron was

591
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:07.680
<v Speaker 2>actually at his very best kind of embracing a villain role,

592
00:31:07.680 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 2>I think, for the first time in his career at

593
00:31:10.119 --> 00:31:13.119
<v Speaker 2>a young age. Then of course he realized, oh yeah,

594
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm not mister popular right now. People think I

595
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:18.279
<v Speaker 2>was a real scumbag for the decision and how that

596
00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:20.799
<v Speaker 2>played out. But he got a couple of rings in

597
00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Miami and then obviously got the one in Cleveland won

598
00:31:25.200 --> 00:31:28.079
<v Speaker 2>the bubble ring in LA. But had he stayed in

599
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:31.799
<v Speaker 2>Cleveland the whole time and he had four, he probably

600
00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:34.599
<v Speaker 2>still wouldn't be viewed as the goat compared to Jordan,

601
00:31:34.599 --> 00:31:36.640
<v Speaker 2>because some people are just gonna never look at anybody

602
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>being better than Jordan as any possibility. But I do think,

603
00:31:42.759 --> 00:31:45.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, if Jordan was bouncing around, I mean again,

604
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:47.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe this is just the kid in me thinking about

605
00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Jordan in the nineties, I feel like if Jordan could

606
00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>pick a different team every few years, whoever got him

607
00:31:53.480 --> 00:31:55.759
<v Speaker 2>was going to win a title. I mean, that's just

608
00:31:55.799 --> 00:31:58.559
<v Speaker 2>the way I's That's how I remember Jordan and just

609
00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:01.400
<v Speaker 2>how dominant he was. Believe it or not, he did misshots.

610
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:05.160
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't perfect, but he was special. And he's gonna

611
00:32:05.160 --> 00:32:07.640
<v Speaker 2>make forty million dollars to talk about the NBA next year,

612
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 2>and I'm looking forward to to to to. I mean, again,

613
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:13.119
<v Speaker 2>as I said a moment ago, he could be terrible,

614
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:14.680
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know if I would even notice it

615
00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:15.440
<v Speaker 2>because he's Jordan.

616
00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:16.400
<v Speaker 1>It's Michael Jordan.

617
00:32:17.240 --> 00:32:18.759
<v Speaker 2>All right, quick break, we'll come back and wrap up

618
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<v Speaker 2>the four o'clock hour as we take you up till

619
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<v Speaker 2>six o'clock before we get out of here for the

620
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<v Speaker 2>holiday week, and keep it locked right here on Sports

621
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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety. If you've listened to this show even

622
00:32:29.200 --> 00:32:31.720
<v Speaker 2>a little bit, you probably know that I'm not somebody

623
00:32:31.720 --> 00:32:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that really keeps up with baseball a whole lot. But

624
00:32:35.880 --> 00:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>even if you don't keep up with baseball really at all,

625
00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:41.839
<v Speaker 2>there's certain teams that are on such a great streak,

626
00:32:42.279 --> 00:32:45.160
<v Speaker 2>having such success that it's at least on your radar

627
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:47.519
<v Speaker 2>because you follow sports and you're gonna hear about it.

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00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:50.039
<v Speaker 2>The same thing could be said for teams that are really,

629
00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>really bad, and that's what's happening with the Colorado Rockies,

630
00:32:55.079 --> 00:32:58.119
<v Speaker 2>who are eight and twenty four, I'm sorry, eight and

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00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:01.079
<v Speaker 2>forty two to start this season here in their first

632
00:33:01.119 --> 00:33:04.319
<v Speaker 2>fifty games. That, of course, is one of the worst

633
00:33:04.359 --> 00:33:06.839
<v Speaker 2>starts you'll ever see in baseball. In fact, it's the

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00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:11.079
<v Speaker 2>worst MLB start in one hundred and thirty years. And

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<v Speaker 2>as somebody who, again not a baseball guy, but I

636
00:33:13.240 --> 00:33:17.319
<v Speaker 2>do you know, I love sports, and I'd like to

637
00:33:17.319 --> 00:33:20.960
<v Speaker 2>think I'm at least pretty knowledgeable when it comes to

638
00:33:21.079 --> 00:33:24.559
<v Speaker 2>sports in this city, in this area. I did not

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00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:28.240
<v Speaker 2>know that there was ever an MLB team in the

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00:33:28.279 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 2>city of Louisville. Am I the only one that didn't

641
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:35.839
<v Speaker 2>know that? I can't be the only one? Right? Maybe

642
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:42.759
<v Speaker 2>I am? But apparently back in let's see what year

643
00:33:42.920 --> 00:33:45.359
<v Speaker 2>was it. It was a long, long, long time ago,

644
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:49.000
<v Speaker 2>but this is the worst start in Major League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight and forty two.

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<v Speaker 2>Since looks like nineteen I'm sorry, not nineteen, It was

647
00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:01.960
<v Speaker 2>since eighteen ninety five. In the Louisville Colonels. They started

648
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.839
<v Speaker 2>seven and forty three. That's worse, of course than eight

649
00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:10.039
<v Speaker 2>in forty two, so we still have that. I mean,

650
00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:11.639
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say going for us, but I didn't.

651
00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:15.400
<v Speaker 2>I literally didn't even realize that there was a Louisville

652
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.199
<v Speaker 2>Colonel's baseball team. And it's probably because again, it was

653
00:34:20.000 --> 00:34:22.119
<v Speaker 2>a long long time ago. I didn't even realize Major

654
00:34:22.199 --> 00:34:26.559
<v Speaker 2>League Baseball has existed this long. But the Colonels they

655
00:34:26.599 --> 00:34:32.559
<v Speaker 2>played in the American Association of the MLB, and they

656
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.480
<v Speaker 2>were in existence for ten years from eighteen eighty two

657
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:40.880
<v Speaker 2>to eighteen ninety one. And yeah, they weren't very good.

658
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<v Speaker 2>I'm looking here at old like pictures. I mean, again,

659
00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:47.559
<v Speaker 2>I probably shouldn't admit this, but like, I didn't even know.

660
00:34:47.599 --> 00:34:50.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I didn't know anybody was playing baseball in

661
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:55.800
<v Speaker 2>the eighteen eighties. But it's America's pastime, right, I guess

662
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.039
<v Speaker 2>there's a reason they call it that. But yeah, the

663
00:35:00.199 --> 00:35:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Louisville Colonels started seven and forty three and eighteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the worst fifty game start still, so they

665
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<v Speaker 2>hold that record, and the Colorado Rockies just ahead of

666
00:35:11.800 --> 00:35:15.400
<v Speaker 2>them at eight and forty two. Yikes says here that

667
00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:17.079
<v Speaker 2>the Rockies are on pace to lose one hundred and

668
00:35:17.079 --> 00:35:20.719
<v Speaker 2>thirty six games this season, which would pass the eighteen

669
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<v Speaker 2>ninety nine Cleveland Spiders, who were twenty and one thirty four.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the most losses ever by a Major League

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<v Speaker 2>baseball team.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's that. All right, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go ahead and get the tables set here for

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<v Speaker 2>the five o'clock hour. A lot I want to run

675
00:35:39.119 --> 00:35:40.880
<v Speaker 2>through before we get out of here for the weekend.

676
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<v Speaker 2>We'll let you hear what Mark Pope had to say

677
00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 2>when he was talking with Matt and the KSR crew

678
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:49.440
<v Speaker 2>about Pat Kelsey, because I think it's just more evidence

679
00:35:49.559 --> 00:35:52.079
<v Speaker 2>that you're really going to have to force it if

680
00:35:52.079 --> 00:35:55.679
<v Speaker 2>you want there to be a rivalry between the coaches here,

681
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 2>because I think Mark Pope and Pat Kelsey really just

682
00:35:58.239 --> 00:36:00.239
<v Speaker 2>have that much respect for one another. I have no

683
00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.119
<v Speaker 2>issue with that because for me, it's really all about fans.

684
00:36:03.199 --> 00:36:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Fans are what makes rivalries great. Because we are fans.

685
00:36:08.039 --> 00:36:13.119
<v Speaker 2>Forever coaches players they come and go. We'll never get

686
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:14.840
<v Speaker 2>it to the level it was with Rick and Cal

687
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.159
<v Speaker 2>and that's just something that we all need to accept.

688
00:36:17.159 --> 00:36:21.679
<v Speaker 2>But Mark Pope. You know, he tried to really exaggerate it,

689
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.360
<v Speaker 2>but he you know, he respects Pat Kelsey, and Pat

690
00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.559
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey respects him. And it's not even that they respect

691
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<v Speaker 2>each other, because I think even between like believe it

692
00:36:31.480 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 2>or not, there's probably a respect level between cal and Rick,

693
00:36:34.719 --> 00:36:36.599
<v Speaker 2>but they also just hate each other. These guys, they

694
00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:41.519
<v Speaker 2>don't hate each other. Also, we can take a look

695
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<v Speaker 2>at the first school at least that I've seen from

696
00:36:45.280 --> 00:36:47.880
<v Speaker 2>the power level that has come out and said, because

697
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.920
<v Speaker 2>there's going to be revenue sharing moving forward in college athletics,

698
00:36:50.920 --> 00:36:53.800
<v Speaker 2>they're going to have to trim their athletic department. And

699
00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.960
<v Speaker 2>you've got Oklahoma in the SEC for that matter, laying

700
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:00.480
<v Speaker 2>off staffers, and I would imagine and they won't be

701
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:04.920
<v Speaker 2>the only school to do that. And then also at

702
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<v Speaker 2>some point I want to try to get to these

703
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.639
<v Speaker 2>anonymous quotes from SEC football coaches about Kentucky's upcoming season,

704
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:13.079
<v Speaker 2>which I would imagine, regardless if you're a Kentucky fan

705
00:37:13.159 --> 00:37:15.280
<v Speaker 2>or not, with these coaches in the league have said

706
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.440
<v Speaker 2>about Kentucky in this twenty twenty five season. For Mark Stoops,

707
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:22.360
<v Speaker 2>it probably probably won't surprise you. And last, but not least,

708
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.559
<v Speaker 2>we may start off the five o'clock hour with this,

709
00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 2>but with high school coming to an end for a

710
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.199
<v Speaker 2>lot of people, in fact, I know there's a lot

711
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<v Speaker 2>of graduations going on. In fact, I think some have

712
00:37:32.800 --> 00:37:36.960
<v Speaker 2>already taken place. There are some senior pranks that are

713
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:43.360
<v Speaker 2>making the news, and I think, if you're really really delicate,

714
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.039
<v Speaker 2>a fine line, I should say, as far as a

715
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 2>senior prank being just good enough to wear, okay, not controversial,

716
00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:55.320
<v Speaker 2>not dangerous, probably something that would be against the rules,

717
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:57.920
<v Speaker 2>but it's a senior prank, so everybody's cool with it.

718
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<v Speaker 2>And then there's some that have just like what are

719
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<v Speaker 2>you thinking, Like, yeah, that's that's a prank, I suppose,

720
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<v Speaker 2>but you know it's also illegal. So we can get

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<v Speaker 2>into all that. We'll finish strong here in the five

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<v Speaker 2>o'clock hour. It's coffee and company. Feel about Thornton's right

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<v Speaker 2>here on Sports Talk seven ninety