WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:02.919 This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:05.839 AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand 3 00:00:05.919 --> 00:00:08.839 on the iHeartRadio app. Butch stories that we are following. 4 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:11.000 One of them is that we will see some more 5 00:00:11.039 --> 00:00:13.679 rain coming in next week. National Weather Service as this 6 00:00:13.880 --> 00:00:18.039 rain moderate rain event, moderate not anywhere near as heavy 7 00:00:18.039 --> 00:00:21.000 as we saw last weekend, but moderate rain event Tuesday 8 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:23.440 through Thursday. They'll get to the timing down when we 9 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:25.120 get a little bit closer to it, but they said 10 00:00:25.120 --> 00:00:26.600 about a quarter of an inch to an inch of 11 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:29.960 rain expected, especially could be higher in the mountains in 12 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:32.320 the hills, as much as two inches if you're in 13 00:00:32.359 --> 00:00:36.119 some of those areas. The big deal, of course, nationally, 14 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:40.200 is the collision between an Army helicopter and an American 15 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:44.960 Airlines jet carrying sixty passengers and four crew right over 16 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:48.880 the Potomac River. The plane was landing at Ronald Reagan 17 00:00:49.039 --> 00:00:51.479 was coming in to land at Ronald Reagan National Airport 18 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:54.880 right near Washington, d C. They have pulled more bodies 19 00:00:54.960 --> 00:00:58.479 out of the Potomac River today, recovered some of the remains, 20 00:00:59.200 --> 00:01:03.039 and we know that a bunch of competitive figure skaters 21 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:06.680 and their companions retired champs and athletic coaches. Family members 22 00:01:06.959 --> 00:01:09.120 were aboard that flight that was going in from Wichita, 23 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:12.640 Kansas to DC. Some of them have been identified by 24 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:17.159 US figure Skating, the governing body of the sport. We'll 25 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:20.280 talk more about that when we get into the plane 26 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:22.719 crash itself. Next segment, we're going to talk with Jay 27 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:26.920 Ratliffe from iHeartRadio's aviation expert about the plane crash. 28 00:01:27.640 --> 00:01:29.879 In the meantime, it's time for swample. I'm a politician, 29 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.200 which means I'm a cheat and a liar, and when 30 00:01:32.239 --> 00:01:34.760 I'm not kissing babies, I'm stealing their lollipops. 31 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:37.920 Here we got the real problem is that our leaders 32 00:01:38.000 --> 00:01:38.480 are done. 33 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:43.680 The other side never quits, so what I'm not going anywhere. 34 00:01:43.760 --> 00:01:44.920 So now you. 35 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:47.719 Train the squat, I can imagine what can be and 36 00:01:47.799 --> 00:01:49.079 be unburdened by what has been. 37 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:53.280 You know, Americans have always been going as they're not stupid. 38 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:56.239 A political flunder is when a politician actually tells the truth. 39 00:01:56.439 --> 00:01:58.959 Have the people voted for you? With no swamp watch, 40 00:01:59.200 --> 00:02:00.519 they're all count well. 41 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:04.560 Today's kind of a confirmation palooza that's going on. RFK 42 00:02:04.760 --> 00:02:08.280 Junior went from yesterday's Finance Committee, meeting to another the 43 00:02:08.319 --> 00:02:12.120 Health Committee today for more questions on his nomination to 44 00:02:12.159 --> 00:02:15.680 take over Health and Human Services Cash Ptel. Trump's nominee 45 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:18.800 to take over the FBI went before the Judiciary Committee, 46 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:22.120 and Tulsi Gabbard, who would be Director of National Intelligence, 47 00:02:22.159 --> 00:02:27.919 goes before the Intelligence Committee. They all have uphill climbs. 48 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:32.479 These are probably three of the most controversial nominees in 49 00:02:32.599 --> 00:02:37.159 the potential cabinet that exists, and in fact, the reactions 50 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:41.039 that we've seen from this morning's confirmation hearings don't look 51 00:02:41.080 --> 00:02:44.879 good for any of the three. Senator James Lankfort, Republican 52 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:47.560 out of Oklahoma, was on the Intelligence Committee, said that 53 00:02:47.599 --> 00:02:53.280 he was surprised that, despite giving multiple opportunities, Tulsi Gabbard 54 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:58.840 refused to call Edward Snowden a traitor. She was repeatedly 55 00:02:58.960 --> 00:03:03.479 questioned about this at this hearing today. Of course, Edward Snowden, 56 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.520 the former NSA contractor who leaked all kinds of thousands 57 00:03:06.560 --> 00:03:10.960 and thousands of documents that did affect national security. He said, 58 00:03:11.479 --> 00:03:14.280 this is James Langford. I was surprised because that didn't 59 00:03:14.280 --> 00:03:16.919 seem like a hard question. It wasn't intended to be 60 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:20.159 a trick question by any means, and that he said 61 00:03:20.159 --> 00:03:24.319 it should have been an easy question for Tulsey Gabbard 62 00:03:24.479 --> 00:03:26.960 to say that it's universally accepted that when you steal 63 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.479 a million pages of top secret documents and you hand 64 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:33.000 it to the Russians, that is a traitor's act. She declined, 65 00:03:33.280 --> 00:03:36.280 in response to at least four different questions to call 66 00:03:36.360 --> 00:03:41.560 him a trader. Also, on the Kennedy nomination bill, Cassidy 67 00:03:42.360 --> 00:03:46.599 is that was the chair of the Health Committee and 68 00:03:47.520 --> 00:03:51.800 he called on he called on RFK Junior to put 69 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:55.080 his support behind vaccinations, and Kennedy said in his closing 70 00:03:55.120 --> 00:04:00.080 remarks today, I've been struggling with your nomination, and he 71 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:03.159 asked a question I should say if Kennedy was even 72 00:04:03.159 --> 00:04:05.960 capable of changing his views, because he would have the 73 00:04:06.000 --> 00:04:09.560 most influential health position on vaccine policy in the United States. 74 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:12.000 As Kennedy got up and left by the way the 75 00:04:12.039 --> 00:04:14.960 hearing room today, somebody in the audience confronted him and 76 00:04:15.039 --> 00:04:17.800 asked if he was ready to acknowledge that vaccines don't 77 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:18.759 cause autism. 78 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:20.040 Kennedy didn't respond to that. 79 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:24.920 Cassidy did shake RFK Junior's hand before he left, thanked 80 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:28.240 him for his time, but when asked by a reporter if, 81 00:04:28.279 --> 00:04:31.600 in fact he was convinced that RFK Junior is going 82 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:34.959 to win the nomination or should be confirmed as a 83 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:38.199 Secretary of HHS, he didn't say. 84 00:04:39.040 --> 00:04:40.319 The other things that were going on. 85 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:44.040 I mentioned that Cash Pttel was up in front of 86 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:48.000 the Senate Judiciary Committee for his nomination to take over 87 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:52.920 the FBI. Dick Durbin, Senator out of Illinois, talked about 88 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:57.360 the January sixth pardons that President Trump issued early on 89 00:04:57.439 --> 00:04:58.480 in his term. 90 00:04:58.639 --> 00:05:01.519 Was President Donald Trump to be a blanket clemency to 91 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:03.079 the January sixth defendants? 92 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:08.560 Thank you, Ranking Member. A couple of things on that one. 93 00:05:08.639 --> 00:05:11.120 The power of the presidential part, and is just that 94 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:12.759 the president line. 95 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.160 I can see he has the authority. I'm asking was 96 00:05:15.160 --> 00:05:16.040 he wrong to do it? 97 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:20.079 And as we discussed in our private meeting, Senator, I 98 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:25.000 have always rejected any violence against law enforcement, and I 99 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:29.360 have including in that group is specifically addressed any violence 100 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.360 against law enforcement on January sixth. 101 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:32.399 He did. 102 00:05:33.879 --> 00:05:38.920 Not condemn the President's pardon of violent rioters on January 103 00:05:39.000 --> 00:05:41.399 sixth because he can't. I mean, I don't know what 104 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:43.040 the expectation was that he was going to come out 105 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:45.480 in bad mouth of the guy who nominated him to 106 00:05:45.519 --> 00:05:48.879 take over the FBI. But so we don't know exactly 107 00:05:48.959 --> 00:05:51.439 when the confirmation votes are going to take place in 108 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:56.160 terms of going through committee, but we are keeping an 109 00:05:56.160 --> 00:05:59.839 eye on those three again. Tulsea Gabbard, Cash Bettel, and 110 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:04.920 RFK Junior. President Trump also made some waves yesterday when 111 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:07.360 he said he's going to order the administration to prepare 112 00:06:07.519 --> 00:06:12.839 GITMO to detain immigrants. At a ceremony to sign that 113 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:15.399 Lake and Riley Bill yesterday into law, he said he 114 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:18.120 would also sign an executive order that instructs the Defense 115 00:06:18.120 --> 00:06:22.279 and Homeland Security departments to get GITMO ready. He said 116 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:25.680 there are thousands of beds at Guantanamo Bay to detain 117 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:28.399 the worst criminal illegal aliens. He says, we don't want 118 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:32.160 them coming back. We're going to send them out to Guantanamo. 119 00:06:33.279 --> 00:06:38.199 Obviously for decades, that's kind of what Guantanamo Bay has been. 120 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:42.720 The maximum capacity is still not if it's clear. It's 121 00:06:42.720 --> 00:06:44.720 not clear to the public, may be clear to the 122 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:49.680 Department of Defense and Homeland Security, but The New York 123 00:06:49.720 --> 00:06:53.040 Times reported that just four migrants are being held there 124 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:58.319 as of February The Global Detention Project says that Guantanamo's 125 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:01.759 Migrant Operations Center has apacity of one hundred and thirty 126 00:07:02.399 --> 00:07:06.439 one hundred and thirty, but Trump says that it could 127 00:07:06.560 --> 00:07:10.439 he hold about thirty thousand beds and that opening up 128 00:07:10.439 --> 00:07:14.279 to migrants would double the capacity immediately, and he says 129 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:15.920 it's a tough place to get out of. 130 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:17.480 It's been used since two thousand and two. 131 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:21.079 Obviously, hundreds of people suspected of terrorism have been held 132 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:25.120 at Guantanamo. It was established during the War on Terror 133 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:29.040 after the September eleventh attacks. They said, in total, over 134 00:07:29.079 --> 00:07:31.600 the course of the twenty plus years since then, it's 135 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:36.680 held more than seven hundred and eighty detainees in total. 136 00:07:37.439 --> 00:07:40.720 Don't know how far this goes, don't know if it's 137 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:44.319 weeks or months away from being implemented, but that's the 138 00:07:44.399 --> 00:07:45.800 latest thing that he's. 139 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:48.160 Done to stir up a lot of people's emotions. 140 00:07:48.319 --> 00:07:51.600 Obviously, we've been talking about the biggest story of the day, 141 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:55.480 that is this plane crash where Army officials have confirmed 142 00:07:55.480 --> 00:07:58.319 that two pilots of a helicopter, one man, one woman 143 00:07:58.839 --> 00:08:01.360 of an army helicopter and a male staff sergeant crew 144 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.160 member killed when the Army helicopter collided with an American 145 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:08.920 Eagle Regional flight that had come in from Wichita, Kansas, 146 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.720 bound for Reaga National Airport. The two aircraft collided just 147 00:08:12.759 --> 00:08:15.360 over the Potomac River last night, and then both of 148 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:19.040 them ended up in the Potomac. No survivors expected joining 149 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:24.000 us now. Jay Ratliffe is Iheartradios aviation expert. I heard 150 00:08:24.040 --> 00:08:26.199 you this morning talking with Handle about some of the 151 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:30.560 information that we knew at the time. Has anything changed 152 00:08:30.560 --> 00:08:32.600 over the course of the last few hours for you 153 00:08:32.679 --> 00:08:35.759 in terms of trying to help piece together what exactly 154 00:08:35.840 --> 00:08:37.480 led to this crash? 155 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.840 No, I mean, at this point in time, the investigation 156 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:43.679 is still ongoing and the National Transportation Safety Board is 157 00:08:43.720 --> 00:08:46.480 stepped in and their investigation. Harry, I'll take eight to 158 00:08:46.519 --> 00:08:50.159 twelve months for them to get through everything, and we 159 00:08:50.279 --> 00:08:53.639 may get kind of an initial report indication in the 160 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:55.799 coming weeks as far as where some of the initial 161 00:08:55.840 --> 00:09:00.039 findings are. But there's just a lot of questions that 162 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:02.759 to be answered here. You had a clear night ten 163 00:09:02.799 --> 00:09:06.799 miles visibility with these two aircraft, one flying under visual 164 00:09:06.840 --> 00:09:10.039 flight rules, which means you coordinate with air traffic control, 165 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:12.919 but you keep your eyes open for any air traffic 166 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:14.519 that you need to be out of the way of. 167 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:18.080 And apparently, at least at one time, we're hearing air 168 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:21.600 traffic control reaching out to the military aircraft asking if 169 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:25.600 they had a visual lock on the approaching regional jet 170 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:29.240 that was cleared for final for landing, So at least 171 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:32.879 that the crew of the military helicopter knew that that 172 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:36.440 regional jet was out there. The thing that, again just 173 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:38.879 baffles me a bit, And we only have a snippet 174 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:42.559 of this, so it's a little difficult to summarize anything 175 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:46.840 from just that. But that question came moments before impact. 176 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.200 And my thought when I first reviewed that was, no, 177 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:52.919 wait a minute, you're asking a question that's going to 178 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:56.399 require a response for you then to give commands on 179 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.960 evasive maneuvers. Given the proximity of the two aircraft, I 180 00:10:01.000 --> 00:10:04.080 would have thought you would skip the question, immediately go 181 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:07.480 to the evasive action, and then kind of go from there. 182 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:12.720 And again, when the pilots of the military aircraft are 183 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:15.120 talking with air traffic control, they're on a different frequency 184 00:10:15.159 --> 00:10:18.960 than the commercial aircraft, so the American Airlines crew is 185 00:10:19.080 --> 00:10:24.519 oblivious to any conversation that's ongoing about their particular spot 186 00:10:24.559 --> 00:10:27.440 in the sky, so they were a bit clueless there, 187 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:29.960 And of course I'm wondering if there was any discussion 188 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:34.039 to them with regards to any other aircraft that were 189 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:36.360 in their vicinity at the time they were coming into land. 190 00:10:36.440 --> 00:10:39.120 So we have just dozens and dozens of questions, and 191 00:10:39.639 --> 00:10:41.519 obviously the best way to honor the lives of those 192 00:10:41.519 --> 00:10:43.120 that were lost is for us to find out what 193 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.200 happened and then do everything humanly possible to make sure 194 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:49.919 it doesn't happen again. It could be a failure of technology, 195 00:10:49.960 --> 00:10:52.039 it could be a medical episode with one of the pilots, 196 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:55.080 or it could be something as simple and as tragic 197 00:10:55.279 --> 00:10:58.840 and as unforgivable as a breakdown in communication somewhere along 198 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.600 the line that allowed the two aircraft to occupy the 199 00:11:01.639 --> 00:11:02.799 same airspace at the same time. 200 00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:04.600 Yeah, one of the options that I've heard is that 201 00:11:04.639 --> 00:11:08.360 the helicopter pilot may have confirmed that they did have 202 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:11.879 visual on this regional jet but simply looked at the 203 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.639 wrong airplane and what happened, especially because and I noticed 204 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:18.919 this last night when I was looking up the actual 205 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:21.519 map of the area with you know, with Reagan National 206 00:11:21.559 --> 00:11:24.720 on one side of the river, joint based Anacostia Bowling 207 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:26.679 on the other side of the river, and a lot 208 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:29.519 of air traffic, a lot of helicopter traffic along that 209 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:34.200 river specifically, even though this the runway that the plane 210 00:11:34.240 --> 00:11:38.639 was clear to land on, isn't necessarily perpendicular to the river, 211 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:42.120 it does would cause that final you know, descent to 212 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:47.039 cross the river. How how common are these This is 213 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.720 a weird question, but how common are the close calls 214 00:11:49.960 --> 00:11:52.320 in a place like that at Reagan National. 215 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:55.399 You talked to any commercial pilot and you say, give 216 00:11:55.399 --> 00:11:58.840 me a list of your top five least favorite airports 217 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.559 to go into, guarantee you Reagan will be one of them. 218 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:05.639 It's just a congested area to go into, and there's 219 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:07.679 always a lot of things that are ongoing. And of 220 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:10.080 course it's the nation's capital. We've got a lot of 221 00:12:10.080 --> 00:12:13.960 military traffic that's in the air constantly. That's you know, 222 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:19.039 either on training, supervising, or just from security patrols that 223 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:22.720 are ongoing. So there's always activity that's up. And at 224 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.639 them runway three to three that was used by the 225 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:30.679 American Airlines Crew, that's a shorter runway that is used 226 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:34.399 less often than the others, but it's not too short, 227 00:12:34.440 --> 00:12:37.279 and it's perfect for a regional jet. It's one that 228 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:39.480 that crew I'm sure has landed on many times before. 229 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:42.399 So there really wasn't anything as you look at this, 230 00:12:42.600 --> 00:12:45.399 that was out of the ordinary at all. Now, the 231 00:12:45.399 --> 00:12:47.679 only other question I have is that I know that 232 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:53.039 that visual flight corridor that the aircraft, the helicopters fly in, 233 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:56.919 he was up and down the Potomac River. I thought 234 00:12:56.919 --> 00:12:58.879 it was a ceiling of two hundred feet and maybe 235 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:01.840 slightly more than that three or four hundred, but apparently 236 00:13:01.879 --> 00:13:04.799 this impact took place at or near four hundred feet. 237 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:08.120 And the other question I have as okay, was what 238 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:11.240 was the altitude of the military jet and where they 239 00:13:11.279 --> 00:13:14.440 at the correct altitude at the time that those two intersected. 240 00:13:14.519 --> 00:13:18.159 So just one of the many questions that the investigating 241 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:21.120 team will be looking at. And if there's a team 242 00:13:21.159 --> 00:13:22.720 that can give us the answers, it's going to be 243 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:26.000 the National Transportation Safety Board. Those men and women are 244 00:13:26.000 --> 00:13:29.000 all stars. They're great at what they do, and they 245 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:31.399 will get to the bottom of what took place. They 246 00:13:31.399 --> 00:13:33.879 will look at everything and allow the evidence to dictate 247 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.759 the course of the investigation, and at the end of 248 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.159 the day, the report is going to be finalized in 249 00:13:40.200 --> 00:13:42.240 a year or so. They will give the Federal Aviation 250 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.919 Administration a list of eight or ten points saying here's 251 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:49.039 what we identified and recommendations on how we can make 252 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:52.399 commercial aviation safer. Of course, then it's up to the 253 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:54.840 FAA if they want to adopt any of those. Typically 254 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:57.480 they do not other than maybe one or two out 255 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:02.039 of fifteen or twenty recommendations. But you know, it's it's 256 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:04.720 been sixteen years since I've had to talk about an 257 00:14:04.759 --> 00:14:07.080 aviation crash. You've got to go back to that Colgan 258 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:10.879 Air crash in Buffalo, New York, February of two thousand 259 00:14:10.919 --> 00:14:13.159 and nine. That was just a few weeks removed from 260 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.720 the Miracle on the Hudson landing with Sullenberger and Jeff Skyle. 261 00:14:16.879 --> 00:14:19.919 So we go way back since the last time we've 262 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:21.879 had to deal with this in the United States as 263 00:14:21.879 --> 00:14:25.799 far as one of our American carriers experiencing an accident, 264 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:28.879 and I hope it's a long, long, long long time 265 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:30.000 before it happens again. 266 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:32.919 Yeah, just a quick final question, do you do we 267 00:14:32.960 --> 00:14:36.120 have any idea where the helicopter was headed or was 268 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:38.200 it just in the middle of training exercises. 269 00:14:38.200 --> 00:14:40.399 It wasn't necessarily going to land somewhere. 270 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:44.559 I do not have the destination, and it was in training. 271 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:48.320 But these individuals are experienced crew members and it was 272 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:50.879 just part of their annual current training that they go 273 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:54.879 through this night night vision exercises. So I don't want 274 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:56.759 us to paint the picture that, you know, we had 275 00:14:56.759 --> 00:15:00.559 a lack of experience in the military helicopter, because all 276 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:04.279 evidence seems to suggest we had a great deal of 277 00:15:04.759 --> 00:15:08.080 expertise in that helicopter, which is one of the other 278 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:10.919 baffling things when you understand when you look at that 279 00:15:11.000 --> 00:15:14.720 it's nothing but windows, you know, peripheral below and above, 280 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:17.960 and they're designed to see as much as possible, and 281 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:20.919 to have the pilots up there and not see that 282 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:25.360 approaching jet is curious, and we've got to find out 283 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:27.039 what's going to take place. I've also been asked why 284 00:15:27.080 --> 00:15:30.559 the traffic delision avoidance system did not kick in warning 285 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:34.159 the American Airlines flight crew of any aircraft in the vicinity. 286 00:15:34.600 --> 00:15:39.600 And it's typically that system that Warren's pilots is turned 287 00:15:39.600 --> 00:15:42.840 off after an aircraft drops below a thousand feet, and 288 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:45.360 I don't think it would have necessarily worked here because 289 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:48.639 the other aircraft has to have a transponder that is 290 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:53.200 similar that would allow the feedback for that TACAS system 291 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:55.759 to operate, and I don't think that those black Hawks 292 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:59.879 had that capability. So that was something that unfortunately was 293 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:01.799 the part of what could have been a solution here 294 00:16:01.840 --> 00:16:03.679 as far as keeping those two aircraft apart. 295 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:06.159 Yes, Jay, I hope we don't have to talk much 296 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.639 more about this, but in this case we will probably 297 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:10.240 speak again about the investigation. 298 00:16:10.360 --> 00:16:12.080 Thank you, very welcome. 299 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.200 Jay Ratliffe, iHeartRadio's aviation expert. In the meantime, it's time 300 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:18.039 for tech Talk. The machines are getting smarter. 301 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:21.799 This is tech Talk brought to you by Skynett. 302 00:16:23.720 --> 00:16:28.120 Mark Saltzman is our friend to help translate technology into 303 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:31.159 standard English for all of us. And there was a 304 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:35.200 lot that was made about deep Seek, this new AI 305 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:36.399 product out of China. 306 00:16:36.480 --> 00:16:38.559 I mean, we haven't had a chance to talk about it. 307 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:42.000 What's your take on what deep seek is and what 308 00:16:42.039 --> 00:16:45.399 it means to other AI development around the world. 309 00:16:45.799 --> 00:16:50.679 Yeah, So it's very similar to chatchipt or Google Gemini 310 00:16:51.279 --> 00:16:54.480 in that it is a conversational AI bot. 311 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:56.960 It's a generative AI or jen AI. 312 00:16:57.120 --> 00:17:01.799 So you can talk with it, mostly by hyping, not verbally, 313 00:17:01.840 --> 00:17:03.600 but the idea is the same that you can ask 314 00:17:03.639 --> 00:17:07.799 it to create content for you, help with math and coding, 315 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:12.160 you can language conversion, you can ask for travel summaries, recipes. 316 00:17:12.200 --> 00:17:16.119 I mean, it's it's a smarter smart like a digital assistant. 317 00:17:16.599 --> 00:17:20.960 It's similar, though very similar to what we're many of. 318 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:23.839 I'm sure your listeners are used to personally or professionally. 319 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:26.720 But yeah, this when this debuted, or at least the 320 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:31.839 news broke on Monday about deep Sea Gotta China, Yeah, 321 00:17:32.000 --> 00:17:35.440 I mean, it took a real toll on US tech stocks, 322 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:39.000 especially some of the AI ones, and Nvidia lost almost 323 00:17:39.000 --> 00:17:43.839 what six hundred. 324 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:43.480 Billion with agreed, rather crazy. 325 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:46.200 So it's a lot I've played around with this large 326 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:48.920 language model. It's a free app for iPhone and Android. 327 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:51.680 It to me is very similar I hear where it 328 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:56.039 differs is in the pricing structure for enterprise because as 329 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.319 a regular consumer it's totally free to use, just as chat. 330 00:17:59.359 --> 00:18:02.160 You bet your Google, Gemini is or co Pilot all 331 00:18:02.200 --> 00:18:04.920 these other ones. But yeah, I mean as a business, 332 00:18:04.960 --> 00:18:07.279 if you're looking at a fraction of the cost to 333 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:10.559 use it, it may be tempting, but know that any 334 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:14.119 Chinese company, and we've talked about this on Tech Talk Thursdays, 335 00:18:14.119 --> 00:18:16.960 many times they have to hand over data to the government, 336 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:20.880 to the Chinese government upon request, not to mention. Just 337 00:18:20.960 --> 00:18:24.960 this week maybe not so Coincidentally, there was a couple 338 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:29.319 of breaches that were unveiled tied to deep Seek, where 339 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:32.559 the things that you would type in like I recently wrote, 340 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:34.519 you know, I've got three days in Barcelona on a 341 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:35.160 limited budget. 342 00:18:35.200 --> 00:18:35.799 What should I do? 343 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:39.200 Your stuff could be out there, like there was a 344 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:43.559 breach where there was a couple of million conversations exposed, 345 00:18:44.079 --> 00:18:44.279 you know. 346 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:45.440 So there's a couple of. 347 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:50.799 Security slash privacy concerns tied to deep Seek. But from 348 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:53.480 a performance standpoint, it's very similar. I don't see any 349 00:18:53.480 --> 00:18:55.680 advantage over Chat Gipt. 350 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:56.559 It hasn't stumped me. 351 00:18:56.599 --> 00:19:01.000 Apparently you won't answer sensitive political questions TMN square and 352 00:19:01.359 --> 00:19:03.279 things that you know the Chinese government does not want 353 00:19:03.319 --> 00:19:03.640 you to know. 354 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:05.559 So look, you know, like anything. 355 00:19:05.319 --> 00:19:10.640 Use it very cautiously, especially when it's not a homegrown product. 356 00:19:10.680 --> 00:19:12.400 But even if it was, you never know what's going 357 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:15.279 to happen to your data, So don't reveal your company's 358 00:19:15.640 --> 00:19:18.839 secrets via You know that happened to somebody. I think 359 00:19:18.839 --> 00:19:21.279 it was Samsung last year, Gary all kidding aside, I 360 00:19:21.279 --> 00:19:24.559 think when chat gipt was pretty fresh, somebody was asking 361 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:28.359 questions about a service that was still under NDA or whatever, 362 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:32.160 and and it shared it inadvertently with other users of Yeah, 363 00:19:32.200 --> 00:19:33.960 I think it was Schatgypt. So yeah, so just be 364 00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:37.240 careful that you don't want to, you know, unknowingly share 365 00:19:37.839 --> 00:19:42.279 personal or corporate sensitive corporate information with the masses. 366 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:47.440 Forty years ago, my parents started a push to transfer 367 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:53.160 all of our home movies, old eight millimeter movies to videotape, 368 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:58.240 to VHS. Now those tapes are probably falling apart, aren't they. 369 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:00.920 I mean, I need to get that digital point right. 370 00:20:01.039 --> 00:20:07.200 Anything analog, whether it's Betamax tapes, VHS, cassettes, yeah, eight millimeter, 371 00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.119 sixteen millimeter, you name it, it's all at risk unless 372 00:20:11.160 --> 00:20:13.279 it's even if it's digital. I mean, as we saw 373 00:20:13.440 --> 00:20:16.960 recently with the La Fire wildfires, even if it's digital 374 00:20:17.400 --> 00:20:22.720 and it's at home, then it's at risk to natural disasters, especially, 375 00:20:23.119 --> 00:20:25.519 So the idea is not only should you digitize it, 376 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:28.400 but you should also upload it to the cloud where 377 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:32.519 it's stored somewhere else geographically. And you know, for example, 378 00:20:32.599 --> 00:20:36.559 one Drive, which is a Microsoft cloud service, you get 379 00:20:36.599 --> 00:20:38.960 one terabyte for free every year. 380 00:20:39.359 --> 00:20:40.759 If you use Office. 381 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:42.599 Three sixty five, which is like you know, Word Outlook, 382 00:20:42.640 --> 00:20:45.319 Excel PowerPoint, which is I think as low as fifty 383 00:20:45.480 --> 00:20:48.960 or sixty bucks a year, you get a thousand gigabytes 384 00:20:48.960 --> 00:20:49.720 of storage for free. 385 00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:51.319 So that's probably more than. 386 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:55.279 Enough for most people's home movie collection. But the trick 387 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:58.000 is digitizing it. So I wrote a piece for AARP. 388 00:20:58.119 --> 00:21:01.759 It was just published today in fact, and it looks 389 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:04.519 at the two main options you have doing it yourself 390 00:21:04.799 --> 00:21:07.200 and what you need to know. You know, you can 391 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:09.920 have a fun weekend of it by digitizing if you've 392 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:12.519 got the gear and the time to do it, or 393 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:14.519 you hire a service to do it for you, and 394 00:21:14.559 --> 00:21:18.599 it usually involves putting your memories in a shoe box 395 00:21:18.680 --> 00:21:19.559 or or something bigger. 396 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:22.359 Trusting the courier service. 397 00:21:22.480 --> 00:21:24.839 Yeah, you know, you never know, right, I mean, even 398 00:21:24.880 --> 00:21:29.160 if it's insured, if it's irreplaceable home movies, there is 399 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:32.119 still a risk, but generally you're okay. Or if you 400 00:21:32.160 --> 00:21:34.279 want a local service where you can hand deliver it 401 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:37.079